<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_02_12_145223</id>
	<title>Wikileaks and Iceland MPs Propose Journalism Haven</title>
	<author>kdawson</author>
	<datestamp>1265988240000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>geegel sends word that <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8504972.stm">Iceland could become a journalism haven</a> if a proposal put forward by some Icelandic MPs, aided by Wikileaks, succeeds. Julian Assange, editor of Wikileaks, said that the idea is to "try and reform Iceland's media law to be a very attractive jurisdiction for investigative journalists." The article notes one area in which supporters of the <a href="http://immi.is/?l=en&amp;p=intro">Icelandic Modern Media Initiative</a> need to tread carefully: "...the troubles of the financial sector may lead some Icelanders to be sceptical of efforts to transform their country and [one supporter] is aware of the need not to make exaggerated claims." A British opponent of the idea (and supporter of the UK's draconian libel laws) is quoted: "The provisions allowing defendants to counter-sue 'libel tourists' in their home courts could transform the humble Icelander into a legal superman, virtually untouchable abroad for comment written &mdash; and uploaded &mdash; at home."</htmltext>
<tokenext>geegel sends word that Iceland could become a journalism haven if a proposal put forward by some Icelandic MPs , aided by Wikileaks , succeeds .
Julian Assange , editor of Wikileaks , said that the idea is to " try and reform Iceland 's media law to be a very attractive jurisdiction for investigative journalists .
" The article notes one area in which supporters of the Icelandic Modern Media Initiative need to tread carefully : " ...the troubles of the financial sector may lead some Icelanders to be sceptical of efforts to transform their country and [ one supporter ] is aware of the need not to make exaggerated claims .
" A British opponent of the idea ( and supporter of the UK 's draconian libel laws ) is quoted : " The provisions allowing defendants to counter-sue 'libel tourists ' in their home courts could transform the humble Icelander into a legal superman , virtually untouchable abroad for comment written    and uploaded    at home .
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<sentencetext>geegel sends word that Iceland could become a journalism haven if a proposal put forward by some Icelandic MPs, aided by Wikileaks, succeeds.
Julian Assange, editor of Wikileaks, said that the idea is to "try and reform Iceland's media law to be a very attractive jurisdiction for investigative journalists.
" The article notes one area in which supporters of the Icelandic Modern Media Initiative need to tread carefully: "...the troubles of the financial sector may lead some Icelanders to be sceptical of efforts to transform their country and [one supporter] is aware of the need not to make exaggerated claims.
" A British opponent of the idea (and supporter of the UK's draconian libel laws) is quoted: "The provisions allowing defendants to counter-sue 'libel tourists' in their home courts could transform the humble Icelander into a legal superman, virtually untouchable abroad for comment written — and uploaded — at home.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_145223.31113552</id>
	<title>Badly Needed</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265992800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Before the financial crash in Iceland there was only one investigative journalism program in the media called "Komp&#225;s" (Icelandic for "Compass")<p>
Of course, after the banks crashed, they started digging and produced a program about the events that led to the crash.<br>
Unfortunately, when the episode was ready, but just before it aired, the media company controlled by "J&#243;n &#193;sgeir J&#243;hannesson", decided to cancel the Program because of "Financial reasons", even though this was one of the most popular programs in Iceland.
</p><p>
The episode on the events leading up to the bank crash, made by Iceland's best known investigative journalists, has still not been aired.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Before the financial crash in Iceland there was only one investigative journalism program in the media called " Komp   s " ( Icelandic for " Compass " ) Of course , after the banks crashed , they started digging and produced a program about the events that led to the crash .
Unfortunately , when the episode was ready , but just before it aired , the media company controlled by " J   n   sgeir J   hannesson " , decided to cancel the Program because of " Financial reasons " , even though this was one of the most popular programs in Iceland .
The episode on the events leading up to the bank crash , made by Iceland 's best known investigative journalists , has still not been aired .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Before the financial crash in Iceland there was only one investigative journalism program in the media called "Kompás" (Icelandic for "Compass")
Of course, after the banks crashed, they started digging and produced a program about the events that led to the crash.
Unfortunately, when the episode was ready, but just before it aired, the media company controlled by "Jón Ásgeir Jóhannesson", decided to cancel the Program because of "Financial reasons", even though this was one of the most popular programs in Iceland.
The episode on the events leading up to the bank crash, made by Iceland's best known investigative journalists, has still not been aired.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_145223.31113796</id>
	<title>Hmm</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265993640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>A British opponent of the idea (and supporter of the UK's draconian libel laws) is quoted: "The provisions allowing defendants to counter-sue 'libel tourists' in their home courts could transform the humble Icelander into a legal superman, virtually untouchable abroad for comment written &mdash; and uploaded &mdash; at home."</p></div><p>That guy sounds like a real douchebag.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>A British opponent of the idea ( and supporter of the UK 's draconian libel laws ) is quoted : " The provisions allowing defendants to counter-sue 'libel tourists ' in their home courts could transform the humble Icelander into a legal superman , virtually untouchable abroad for comment written    and uploaded    at home .
" That guy sounds like a real douchebag .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A British opponent of the idea (and supporter of the UK's draconian libel laws) is quoted: "The provisions allowing defendants to counter-sue 'libel tourists' in their home courts could transform the humble Icelander into a legal superman, virtually untouchable abroad for comment written — and uploaded — at home.
"That guy sounds like a real douchebag.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_145223.31126420</id>
	<title>Re:try TO reform</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266071460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I love the grammatical nitpicking. Ahh, I'm home.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I love the grammatical nitpicking .
Ahh , I 'm home .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I love the grammatical nitpicking.
Ahh, I'm home.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_145223.31115646</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_145223.31114640</id>
	<title>Re:Cool</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1265996760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>About that beacon of truth:<br>1. Who defines &ldquo;truth&rdquo;? The admins? The Icelandic government? You?<br>2. The US can still bomb the shit out of Iceland in a matter of days.<br>3.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...<br>4. FAIL.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p><p><div class="quote"><p>I remember when the United States was something like that.</p></div><p>You mean, you remember when you still believed their lies?<br>Well, there was a time when I believed my government too...<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>About that beacon of truth : 1 .
Who defines    truth    ?
The admins ?
The Icelandic government ?
You ? 2. The US can still bomb the shit out of Iceland in a matter of days.3 .
...4. FAIL .
; ) I remember when the United States was something like that.You mean , you remember when you still believed their lies ? Well , there was a time when I believed my government too... ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>About that beacon of truth:1.
Who defines “truth”?
The admins?
The Icelandic government?
You?2. The US can still bomb the shit out of Iceland in a matter of days.3.
...4. FAIL.
;)I remember when the United States was something like that.You mean, you remember when you still believed their lies?Well, there was a time when I believed my government too... ;)
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_145223.31113412</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_145223.31116020</id>
	<title>A polite reminder.</title>
	<author>chrizlax</author>
	<datestamp>1266001980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This may be somewhat offtopic, but <a href="http://wikileaks.org/" title="wikileaks.org" rel="nofollow"> Wikileaks</a> [wikileaks.org] is still desperately in need of donations.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This may be somewhat offtopic , but Wikileaks [ wikileaks.org ] is still desperately in need of donations .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This may be somewhat offtopic, but  Wikileaks [wikileaks.org] is still desperately in need of donations.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_145223.31113726</id>
	<title>Re:Cool</title>
	<author>VShael</author>
	<datestamp>1265993400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I remember when the United States was something like that.</i></p><p>I remember when people <strong>thought</strong> the United States was something like that.<br>I can't remember it ever being the case though.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I remember when the United States was something like that.I remember when people thought the United States was something like that.I ca n't remember it ever being the case though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I remember when the United States was something like that.I remember when people thought the United States was something like that.I can't remember it ever being the case though.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_145223.31113412</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_145223.31114926</id>
	<title>Brain go splodey</title>
	<author>http</author>
	<datestamp>1265997660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The quote</p><blockquote><div><p>"The provisions allowing defendants to counter-sue 'libel tourists' in their home courts could transform the humble Icelander into a legal superman, virtually untouchable abroad for comment written -- and uploaded -- at home."</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
shows a truly startling ignorance.  If some British prat decides to start badmouthing me (or some other Canadian) in England, I'm trying to imagine what possible train of thought would lead them to think that if I was going to sue them, I'd sue them here, where the alleged offense didn't even occur?</p><p>Sovereignty, it's a beautiful thing.  If I kill and saute small children here (mmm, peanut oil), I'm going to trial here.  Elsewhere, the most anyone can expect to happen to me is extradition (a diplomatic cordiality) and a covert police beating or two (human nature being what it is) or just a plain ol' lynching (in a perfect world).</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The quote " The provisions allowing defendants to counter-sue 'libel tourists ' in their home courts could transform the humble Icelander into a legal superman , virtually untouchable abroad for comment written -- and uploaded -- at home .
" shows a truly startling ignorance .
If some British prat decides to start badmouthing me ( or some other Canadian ) in England , I 'm trying to imagine what possible train of thought would lead them to think that if I was going to sue them , I 'd sue them here , where the alleged offense did n't even occur ? Sovereignty , it 's a beautiful thing .
If I kill and saute small children here ( mmm , peanut oil ) , I 'm going to trial here .
Elsewhere , the most anyone can expect to happen to me is extradition ( a diplomatic cordiality ) and a covert police beating or two ( human nature being what it is ) or just a plain ol ' lynching ( in a perfect world ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The quote"The provisions allowing defendants to counter-sue 'libel tourists' in their home courts could transform the humble Icelander into a legal superman, virtually untouchable abroad for comment written -- and uploaded -- at home.
"

shows a truly startling ignorance.
If some British prat decides to start badmouthing me (or some other Canadian) in England, I'm trying to imagine what possible train of thought would lead them to think that if I was going to sue them, I'd sue them here, where the alleged offense didn't even occur?Sovereignty, it's a beautiful thing.
If I kill and saute small children here (mmm, peanut oil), I'm going to trial here.
Elsewhere, the most anyone can expect to happen to me is extradition (a diplomatic cordiality) and a covert police beating or two (human nature being what it is) or just a plain ol' lynching (in a perfect world).
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_145223.31113452</id>
	<title>Oh noes!</title>
	<author>schmidt349</author>
	<datestamp>1265992320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But... but... if Iceland becomes a journalism haven, how will people file baseless libel suits in British courts?!! Everyone who says homeopathy and chiropractic are junk sciences will be able to just get away with it!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But... but... if Iceland becomes a journalism haven , how will people file baseless libel suits in British courts ? ! !
Everyone who says homeopathy and chiropractic are junk sciences will be able to just get away with it !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But... but... if Iceland becomes a journalism haven, how will people file baseless libel suits in British courts?!!
Everyone who says homeopathy and chiropractic are junk sciences will be able to just get away with it!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_145223.31113378</id>
	<title>virtually untouchable?</title>
	<author>FooAtWFU</author>
	<datestamp>1265992020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Eh, "virtually untouchable" is not so bad, really. I'll take that over the British scheme, I think. After all, there's (usually) more effective ways to defend one's self against libel than lawsuits.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Eh , " virtually untouchable " is not so bad , really .
I 'll take that over the British scheme , I think .
After all , there 's ( usually ) more effective ways to defend one 's self against libel than lawsuits .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Eh, "virtually untouchable" is not so bad, really.
I'll take that over the British scheme, I think.
After all, there's (usually) more effective ways to defend one's self against libel than lawsuits.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_145223.31120384</id>
	<title>Re:Badly Needed</title>
	<author>Tolkien</author>
	<datestamp>1265972940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They should leak it to The Pirate Bay, problem solved.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They should leak it to The Pirate Bay , problem solved .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They should leak it to The Pirate Bay, problem solved.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_145223.31113438</id>
	<title>Fantastic!</title>
	<author>FlyingBishop</author>
	<datestamp>1265992260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p> A British opponent of the idea (and supporter of the UK's draconian libel laws) is quoted: "The provisions allowing defendants to counter-sue 'libel tourists' in their home courts could transform the humble Icelander into a legal superman, virtually untouchable abroad for comment written &mdash; and uploaded &mdash; at home."</p></div></blockquote><p>As a US citizen, I'm looking forward to it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>A British opponent of the idea ( and supporter of the UK 's draconian libel laws ) is quoted : " The provisions allowing defendants to counter-sue 'libel tourists ' in their home courts could transform the humble Icelander into a legal superman , virtually untouchable abroad for comment written    and uploaded    at home .
" As a US citizen , I 'm looking forward to it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> A British opponent of the idea (and supporter of the UK's draconian libel laws) is quoted: "The provisions allowing defendants to counter-sue 'libel tourists' in their home courts could transform the humble Icelander into a legal superman, virtually untouchable abroad for comment written — and uploaded — at home.
"As a US citizen, I'm looking forward to it.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_145223.31125134</id>
	<title>Iceland the new Switzerland</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266092700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>IF Germany's strong-arm bully tactics against Switzerland and Liechtenstein etc. are any guide, then small Iceland need to watch out against threats of military invasion. And seriously, if not that then sanctions at least. So all lovers of the truth should support them in their effort.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>IF Germany 's strong-arm bully tactics against Switzerland and Liechtenstein etc .
are any guide , then small Iceland need to watch out against threats of military invasion .
And seriously , if not that then sanctions at least .
So all lovers of the truth should support them in their effort .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>IF Germany's strong-arm bully tactics against Switzerland and Liechtenstein etc.
are any guide, then small Iceland need to watch out against threats of military invasion.
And seriously, if not that then sanctions at least.
So all lovers of the truth should support them in their effort.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_145223.31118528</id>
	<title>Yielding to pressure</title>
	<author>skastrik</author>
	<datestamp>1265967900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Assuming Iceland would pass such laws on a national level and become the safe haven envisioned.
<p>
In cases where countries or organizations felt affected, they \_would\_ try to strong-arm Iceland to yield.
I don't think that a small country would be able to stand up against much pressure from the outside. At the moment Iceland needs all the political friends it can get, and this move is not necessarily a step in that direction.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Assuming Iceland would pass such laws on a national level and become the safe haven envisioned .
In cases where countries or organizations felt affected , they \ _would \ _ try to strong-arm Iceland to yield .
I do n't think that a small country would be able to stand up against much pressure from the outside .
At the moment Iceland needs all the political friends it can get , and this move is not necessarily a step in that direction .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Assuming Iceland would pass such laws on a national level and become the safe haven envisioned.
In cases where countries or organizations felt affected, they \_would\_ try to strong-arm Iceland to yield.
I don't think that a small country would be able to stand up against much pressure from the outside.
At the moment Iceland needs all the political friends it can get, and this move is not necessarily a step in that direction.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_145223.31113616</id>
	<title>Suggestion: Simply Reward Them</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265992980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The main goal with the proposal is to task the government with finding ways to strengthen freedoms of expression and information in Iceland, as well as providing strong protections for sources and whistleblowers.</p> </div><p>Before you rewrite all your laws and start to upset other countries like the Brits, tossing <a href="http://wikileaks.org/" title="wikileaks.org">a half million at them</a> [wikileaks.org] so they can finally come out of questionable status and <a href="http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Leaked\_UK\_report\_damns\_Iraq\_war\_planning" title="wikileaks.org">my links to their site stop returning a 404</a> [wikileaks.org].  <br> <br>

That'd be a really good start and pretty much pocket change for a government.  Wikileaks seemed to be operating just fine where ever their servers were located.  Offer them asylum only if they need it.  <br> <br>

Even better than that would be an IMMI award given out yearly to the whistleblowingest site out there.  Let Cryptome and Wikileaks compete for eyeballs, usability and leaked documents.  <br> <br>

Changing your laws will attract journalists to live there but, come on, the journalism industry isn't going to be pulling in huge import revenues for your country as it stands.  So maybe the best thing would be to slightly improve the laws and use a little bit of change to encourage the principles the IMMI wants to support.  Worry about becoming the Swiss Bank of Information and Dissent later when there's a huge demand for it.  The places that need that stuff the most would sooner block all Iceland IP addresses than let you host damning news and evidence of them anyway.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The main goal with the proposal is to task the government with finding ways to strengthen freedoms of expression and information in Iceland , as well as providing strong protections for sources and whistleblowers .
Before you rewrite all your laws and start to upset other countries like the Brits , tossing a half million at them [ wikileaks.org ] so they can finally come out of questionable status and my links to their site stop returning a 404 [ wikileaks.org ] .
That 'd be a really good start and pretty much pocket change for a government .
Wikileaks seemed to be operating just fine where ever their servers were located .
Offer them asylum only if they need it .
Even better than that would be an IMMI award given out yearly to the whistleblowingest site out there .
Let Cryptome and Wikileaks compete for eyeballs , usability and leaked documents .
Changing your laws will attract journalists to live there but , come on , the journalism industry is n't going to be pulling in huge import revenues for your country as it stands .
So maybe the best thing would be to slightly improve the laws and use a little bit of change to encourage the principles the IMMI wants to support .
Worry about becoming the Swiss Bank of Information and Dissent later when there 's a huge demand for it .
The places that need that stuff the most would sooner block all Iceland IP addresses than let you host damning news and evidence of them anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The main goal with the proposal is to task the government with finding ways to strengthen freedoms of expression and information in Iceland, as well as providing strong protections for sources and whistleblowers.
Before you rewrite all your laws and start to upset other countries like the Brits, tossing a half million at them [wikileaks.org] so they can finally come out of questionable status and my links to their site stop returning a 404 [wikileaks.org].
That'd be a really good start and pretty much pocket change for a government.
Wikileaks seemed to be operating just fine where ever their servers were located.
Offer them asylum only if they need it.
Even better than that would be an IMMI award given out yearly to the whistleblowingest site out there.
Let Cryptome and Wikileaks compete for eyeballs, usability and leaked documents.
Changing your laws will attract journalists to live there but, come on, the journalism industry isn't going to be pulling in huge import revenues for your country as it stands.
So maybe the best thing would be to slightly improve the laws and use a little bit of change to encourage the principles the IMMI wants to support.
Worry about becoming the Swiss Bank of Information and Dissent later when there's a huge demand for it.
The places that need that stuff the most would sooner block all Iceland IP addresses than let you host damning news and evidence of them anyway.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_145223.31115210</id>
	<title>Video of announcment here...</title>
	<author>KPexEA</author>
	<datestamp>1265998920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWNfIvG4z-g" title="youtube.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWNfIvG4z-g</a> [youtube.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = VWNfIvG4z-g [ youtube.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWNfIvG4z-g [youtube.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_145223.31114942</id>
	<title>Re:Oh noes!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265997720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>There is actually a parliament channel? Never knew. I find <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/democracylive/hi" title="bbc.co.uk">BBC Democracy Live</a> [bbc.co.uk] to be more convenient anyway.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There is actually a parliament channel ?
Never knew .
I find BBC Democracy Live [ bbc.co.uk ] to be more convenient anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is actually a parliament channel?
Never knew.
I find BBC Democracy Live [bbc.co.uk] to be more convenient anyway.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_145223.31113932</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_145223.31113922</id>
	<title>Group rights stronger than individual rights.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265994120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>'Indian people are paedophiles!' = illegal and punishable in the entire Europe as well as the new Icelandic speech haven</p><p>'Professor Ramkrishnan Ganesh at the India Institute of Technology is a paedophile!' = legal and protected in the entire Europe as well as the new Icelandic speech haven</p><p>It's a brave new world.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>'Indian people are paedophiles !
' = illegal and punishable in the entire Europe as well as the new Icelandic speech haven'Professor Ramkrishnan Ganesh at the India Institute of Technology is a paedophile !
' = legal and protected in the entire Europe as well as the new Icelandic speech havenIt 's a brave new world .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>'Indian people are paedophiles!
' = illegal and punishable in the entire Europe as well as the new Icelandic speech haven'Professor Ramkrishnan Ganesh at the India Institute of Technology is a paedophile!
' = legal and protected in the entire Europe as well as the new Icelandic speech havenIt's a brave new world.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_145223.31113844</id>
	<title>You grasped at the soap bar of censorship, UK</title>
	<author>L4t3r4lu5</author>
	<datestamp>1265993820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>The tighter you gripped, the more it slipped away. The grip is so tight here now that you've dropped the soap.<br> <br>Prepare for a shafting.<br> <br>(I have no idea where I was going with this.)</htmltext>
<tokenext>The tighter you gripped , the more it slipped away .
The grip is so tight here now that you 've dropped the soap .
Prepare for a shafting .
( I have no idea where I was going with this .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The tighter you gripped, the more it slipped away.
The grip is so tight here now that you've dropped the soap.
Prepare for a shafting.
(I have no idea where I was going with this.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_145223.31113936</id>
	<title>Pariah State</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265994240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Iceland is just out for itself. This is a cynical move that may do more harm than good. In an age of the internet where information is more valuable than gold they're just trying to capture the market for people who want to avoid the downside. This will attract every load mouth and piece of filth in the world, and make Iceland into an even bigger pariah state than its debt default.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Iceland is just out for itself .
This is a cynical move that may do more harm than good .
In an age of the internet where information is more valuable than gold they 're just trying to capture the market for people who want to avoid the downside .
This will attract every load mouth and piece of filth in the world , and make Iceland into an even bigger pariah state than its debt default .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Iceland is just out for itself.
This is a cynical move that may do more harm than good.
In an age of the internet where information is more valuable than gold they're just trying to capture the market for people who want to avoid the downside.
This will attract every load mouth and piece of filth in the world, and make Iceland into an even bigger pariah state than its debt default.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_145223.31113412</id>
	<title>Cool</title>
	<author>Jawn98685</author>
	<datestamp>1265992200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Get it?
<br>
No, seriously, I mean it is cool that the notion of a free press could be so powerful that an entire nation could be moved to enshrine it in law, thereby creating a beacon of truth for the rest of the world, or a thorn in their side, depending on what got posted.
[sigh...] I remember when the United States was something like that.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Get it ?
No , seriously , I mean it is cool that the notion of a free press could be so powerful that an entire nation could be moved to enshrine it in law , thereby creating a beacon of truth for the rest of the world , or a thorn in their side , depending on what got posted .
[ sigh... ] I remember when the United States was something like that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Get it?
No, seriously, I mean it is cool that the notion of a free press could be so powerful that an entire nation could be moved to enshrine it in law, thereby creating a beacon of truth for the rest of the world, or a thorn in their side, depending on what got posted.
[sigh...] I remember when the United States was something like that.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_145223.31115830</id>
	<title>Re:Cool</title>
	<author>inviolet</author>
	<datestamp>1266001320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>No, seriously, I mean it is cool that the notion of a free press could be so powerful that an entire nation could be moved to enshrine it in law, thereby creating a beacon of truth for the rest of the world, or a thorn in their side, depending on what got posted. [sigh...] I remember when the United States was something like that.</p></div></blockquote><p>It's a trap.
</p><p>Seriously.  Iceland is broke, and this is a get-rich-quick scheme: once you have a reputation for being an irrepressible beacon of truth, you can charge an enormous sum to repress certain truths.
</p><p>Newspapers do this in a small way, by withholding news articles that are critical of their advertisers.  But if Iceland becomes wikileaks, then it's only a matter of months before they start invoicing the guilty parties when a new leak comes up for publishing.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>No , seriously , I mean it is cool that the notion of a free press could be so powerful that an entire nation could be moved to enshrine it in law , thereby creating a beacon of truth for the rest of the world , or a thorn in their side , depending on what got posted .
[ sigh... ] I remember when the United States was something like that.It 's a trap .
Seriously. Iceland is broke , and this is a get-rich-quick scheme : once you have a reputation for being an irrepressible beacon of truth , you can charge an enormous sum to repress certain truths .
Newspapers do this in a small way , by withholding news articles that are critical of their advertisers .
But if Iceland becomes wikileaks , then it 's only a matter of months before they start invoicing the guilty parties when a new leak comes up for publishing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, seriously, I mean it is cool that the notion of a free press could be so powerful that an entire nation could be moved to enshrine it in law, thereby creating a beacon of truth for the rest of the world, or a thorn in their side, depending on what got posted.
[sigh...] I remember when the United States was something like that.It's a trap.
Seriously.  Iceland is broke, and this is a get-rich-quick scheme: once you have a reputation for being an irrepressible beacon of truth, you can charge an enormous sum to repress certain truths.
Newspapers do this in a small way, by withholding news articles that are critical of their advertisers.
But if Iceland becomes wikileaks, then it's only a matter of months before they start invoicing the guilty parties when a new leak comes up for publishing.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_145223.31124740</id>
	<title>Typo in summary</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266000900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Skeptical, not sceptical</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Skeptical , not sceptical</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Skeptical, not sceptical</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_145223.31114864</id>
	<title>If Iceland wants to reform</title>
	<author>SmallFurryCreature</author>
	<datestamp>1265997480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Iceland got a problem, they lets a few individuals of the country run them up a multi billion euro debt that they now ask others to bear.
</p><p>Now they want even more sympathy, yet in all of this posturing and pleading I have not heard the one thing that might me like them more:
</p><p>"We rounded up those responsible and killed them". Surely bankrupting a nation is against some kind of law? All you need is one loaded pistol and you will be gaining a LOT of Dutch/British sympathy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Iceland got a problem , they lets a few individuals of the country run them up a multi billion euro debt that they now ask others to bear .
Now they want even more sympathy , yet in all of this posturing and pleading I have not heard the one thing that might me like them more : " We rounded up those responsible and killed them " .
Surely bankrupting a nation is against some kind of law ?
All you need is one loaded pistol and you will be gaining a LOT of Dutch/British sympathy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Iceland got a problem, they lets a few individuals of the country run them up a multi billion euro debt that they now ask others to bear.
Now they want even more sympathy, yet in all of this posturing and pleading I have not heard the one thing that might me like them more:
"We rounded up those responsible and killed them".
Surely bankrupting a nation is against some kind of law?
All you need is one loaded pistol and you will be gaining a LOT of Dutch/British sympathy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_145223.31113448</id>
	<title>Talk at 26C3</title>
	<author>user1003</author>
	<datestamp>1265992320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>There has been a <a href="http://events.ccc.de/congress/2009/Fahrplan/events/3567.en.html" title="events.ccc.de" rel="nofollow">very interesting talk</a> [events.ccc.de] about this (and other aspects of WikiLeaks) at 26C3.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There has been a very interesting talk [ events.ccc.de ] about this ( and other aspects of WikiLeaks ) at 26C3 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There has been a very interesting talk [events.ccc.de] about this (and other aspects of WikiLeaks) at 26C3.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_145223.31114046</id>
	<title>That's The Argument Against?</title>
	<author>Bob9113</author>
	<datestamp>1265994600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>A British opponent of the idea (and supporter of the UK's draconian libel laws) is quoted: "The provisions allowing defendants to counter-sue 'libel tourists' in their home courts could transform the humble Icelander into a legal superman, virtually untouchable abroad for comment written -- and uploaded -- at home."</i></p><p>That is supposed to be a persuasive argument against Icelanders passing the law?!? That Icelanders would be less susceptible to being sued abroad under laws they have not enacted and have no reason to be familiar with? That "the humble Icelander" would gain the benefits traditionally associated with sovereignty?</p><p>In an attempt to understand what must be some subtle power to this apparently dimwitted rhetoric, let us explore the following hypothetical argument in favor of abstinence:</p><p>'Sex is a lot of fun. It is so much fun that it gave rise to the phrase, "[Some other thing] is the most fun you can have with your clothes on." That phrase plays on the common recognition that sex is the most fun you can have, without qualification. It is fantastic, quite literally, on a genetic level. But you should abstain.'</p><p>Hmmm, nope, still sounds stupid.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A British opponent of the idea ( and supporter of the UK 's draconian libel laws ) is quoted : " The provisions allowing defendants to counter-sue 'libel tourists ' in their home courts could transform the humble Icelander into a legal superman , virtually untouchable abroad for comment written -- and uploaded -- at home .
" That is supposed to be a persuasive argument against Icelanders passing the law ? ! ?
That Icelanders would be less susceptible to being sued abroad under laws they have not enacted and have no reason to be familiar with ?
That " the humble Icelander " would gain the benefits traditionally associated with sovereignty ? In an attempt to understand what must be some subtle power to this apparently dimwitted rhetoric , let us explore the following hypothetical argument in favor of abstinence : 'Sex is a lot of fun .
It is so much fun that it gave rise to the phrase , " [ Some other thing ] is the most fun you can have with your clothes on .
" That phrase plays on the common recognition that sex is the most fun you can have , without qualification .
It is fantastic , quite literally , on a genetic level .
But you should abstain .
'Hmmm , nope , still sounds stupid .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A British opponent of the idea (and supporter of the UK's draconian libel laws) is quoted: "The provisions allowing defendants to counter-sue 'libel tourists' in their home courts could transform the humble Icelander into a legal superman, virtually untouchable abroad for comment written -- and uploaded -- at home.
"That is supposed to be a persuasive argument against Icelanders passing the law?!?
That Icelanders would be less susceptible to being sued abroad under laws they have not enacted and have no reason to be familiar with?
That "the humble Icelander" would gain the benefits traditionally associated with sovereignty?In an attempt to understand what must be some subtle power to this apparently dimwitted rhetoric, let us explore the following hypothetical argument in favor of abstinence:'Sex is a lot of fun.
It is so much fun that it gave rise to the phrase, "[Some other thing] is the most fun you can have with your clothes on.
" That phrase plays on the common recognition that sex is the most fun you can have, without qualification.
It is fantastic, quite literally, on a genetic level.
But you should abstain.
'Hmmm, nope, still sounds stupid.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_145223.31114878</id>
	<title>Persuasive Counterargument</title>
	<author>Arancaytar</author>
	<datestamp>1265997540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>A British opponent of the idea (and supporter of the UK's draconian libel laws) is quoted: "The provisions allowing defendants to counter-sue 'libel tourists' in their home courts could transform the humble Icelander into a legal superman, virtually untouchable abroad for comment written &mdash; and uploaded &mdash; at home."</p></div></blockquote><p>Indeed.</p><p>And the downside?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>A British opponent of the idea ( and supporter of the UK 's draconian libel laws ) is quoted : " The provisions allowing defendants to counter-sue 'libel tourists ' in their home courts could transform the humble Icelander into a legal superman , virtually untouchable abroad for comment written    and uploaded    at home .
" Indeed.And the downside ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A British opponent of the idea (and supporter of the UK's draconian libel laws) is quoted: "The provisions allowing defendants to counter-sue 'libel tourists' in their home courts could transform the humble Icelander into a legal superman, virtually untouchable abroad for comment written — and uploaded — at home.
"Indeed.And the downside?
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_145223.31113396</id>
	<title>Yea!</title>
	<author>glrotate</author>
	<datestamp>1265992140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A thieves' den of defamation and invasion of privacy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A thieves ' den of defamation and invasion of privacy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A thieves' den of defamation and invasion of privacy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_145223.31115314</id>
	<title>Speechpocalypse 2010!</title>
	<author>RomulusNR</author>
	<datestamp>1265999400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>could transform the humble Icelander into a legal superman, virtually untouchable abroad for comments written</i></p><p><i>It's a word! It's a claim! No, it's FreeSpeechMan!</i></p><p><i>Whatever will we do when Iceland is overrun with people with the power to say whatever they want?</i></p><p><i>Freedom Of Speech -- It's Scary!</i></p></htmltext>
<tokenext>could transform the humble Icelander into a legal superman , virtually untouchable abroad for comments writtenIt 's a word !
It 's a claim !
No , it 's FreeSpeechMan ! Whatever will we do when Iceland is overrun with people with the power to say whatever they want ? Freedom Of Speech -- It 's Scary !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>could transform the humble Icelander into a legal superman, virtually untouchable abroad for comments writtenIt's a word!
It's a claim!
No, it's FreeSpeechMan!Whatever will we do when Iceland is overrun with people with the power to say whatever they want?Freedom Of Speech -- It's Scary!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_145223.31113932</id>
	<title>Re:Oh noes!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265994180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Something that hasn't hit the journalistic radar yet:</p><p>Jack Straw MP (UK Justice Secretary) announced in the house this Tuesday that he will be undertaking a serious review of Britain's libel laws in light of the fact that Britain is often viewed as a 'libel haven' (paraphrasing) for overseas corporations.</p><p>This won't be likely to result in new legislation before the end of this Parliament (likely to be April-May 2010), but at least it will put the issue on the agenda for the next one.</p><p>-Nano.</p><p>(Yes, I watch the Parliament channel...)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Something that has n't hit the journalistic radar yet : Jack Straw MP ( UK Justice Secretary ) announced in the house this Tuesday that he will be undertaking a serious review of Britain 's libel laws in light of the fact that Britain is often viewed as a 'libel haven ' ( paraphrasing ) for overseas corporations.This wo n't be likely to result in new legislation before the end of this Parliament ( likely to be April-May 2010 ) , but at least it will put the issue on the agenda for the next one.-Nano .
( Yes , I watch the Parliament channel... )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Something that hasn't hit the journalistic radar yet:Jack Straw MP (UK Justice Secretary) announced in the house this Tuesday that he will be undertaking a serious review of Britain's libel laws in light of the fact that Britain is often viewed as a 'libel haven' (paraphrasing) for overseas corporations.This won't be likely to result in new legislation before the end of this Parliament (likely to be April-May 2010), but at least it will put the issue on the agenda for the next one.-Nano.
(Yes, I watch the Parliament channel...)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_145223.31120462</id>
	<title>Re:Badly Needed</title>
	<author>NotAvailableIsNick</author>
	<datestamp>1265973240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The folks from Wikileaks talked about this at 26c3 last year: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3brdA5dSqZo" title="youtube.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3brdA5dSqZo</a> [youtube.com] (starting at around 6:50). The videos of the talk go into more details on the process of Iceland becoming a journalism haven and explain what role Wikileaks plays in its creation.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The folks from Wikileaks talked about this at 26c3 last year : http : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = 3brdA5dSqZo [ youtube.com ] ( starting at around 6 : 50 ) .
The videos of the talk go into more details on the process of Iceland becoming a journalism haven and explain what role Wikileaks plays in its creation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The folks from Wikileaks talked about this at 26c3 last year: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3brdA5dSqZo [youtube.com] (starting at around 6:50).
The videos of the talk go into more details on the process of Iceland becoming a journalism haven and explain what role Wikileaks plays in its creation.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_145223.31115646</id>
	<title>try TO reform</title>
	<author>AP31R0N</author>
	<datestamp>1266000660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"I'm going to try TO teach you decent grammar."</p><p>It's not two separate actions.  "And" would make sense in a case like, "I'm going to sing and dance".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" I 'm going to try TO teach you decent grammar .
" It 's not two separate actions .
" And " would make sense in a case like , " I 'm going to sing and dance " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"I'm going to try TO teach you decent grammar.
"It's not two separate actions.
"And" would make sense in a case like, "I'm going to sing and dance".</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_145223.31121856</id>
	<title>Why Iceland?</title>
	<author>sictransitgloriacfa</author>
	<datestamp>1265978820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why did Wikileaks choose Iceland, of all the places they might have gone, to try to persuade? Do they have an exceptionally good press freedom record or something?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why did Wikileaks choose Iceland , of all the places they might have gone , to try to persuade ?
Do they have an exceptionally good press freedom record or something ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why did Wikileaks choose Iceland, of all the places they might have gone, to try to persuade?
Do they have an exceptionally good press freedom record or something?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_145223.31113824</id>
	<title>Sovereignty needs to be paramount, first</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265993760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The primary issue that this raises is that of Sovereignty: the absolute inviolate right of a Nation to enact its own laws within its own borders.</p><p>It is essential that Sovereignty be restored, world-wide.  That means that the United States must cease and desist from interfering in and initiating interference in other countries.  Such as by terminating the one-way "extradition treaty" which has been abused so badly.  Such as by not committing crimes by invading foreign countries without good justification or even any evidence, on "pre-emptive" pretexts.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The primary issue that this raises is that of Sovereignty : the absolute inviolate right of a Nation to enact its own laws within its own borders.It is essential that Sovereignty be restored , world-wide .
That means that the United States must cease and desist from interfering in and initiating interference in other countries .
Such as by terminating the one-way " extradition treaty " which has been abused so badly .
Such as by not committing crimes by invading foreign countries without good justification or even any evidence , on " pre-emptive " pretexts .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The primary issue that this raises is that of Sovereignty: the absolute inviolate right of a Nation to enact its own laws within its own borders.It is essential that Sovereignty be restored, world-wide.
That means that the United States must cease and desist from interfering in and initiating interference in other countries.
Such as by terminating the one-way "extradition treaty" which has been abused so badly.
Such as by not committing crimes by invading foreign countries without good justification or even any evidence, on "pre-emptive" pretexts.</sentencetext>
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