<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_02_11_011257</id>
	<title>Experts Closing In On Google Attack Coders</title>
	<author>samzenpus</author>
	<datestamp>1265907420000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>ancientribe writes <i>"The targeted attacks out of China that hit Google, Adobe, and other US organizations are still ongoing and have affected many more companies than the original 20 to 30 reported. Security experts now say they are getting closer to <a href="http://www.darkreading.com/vulnerability\_management/security/attacks/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=222700786">identifying the author or authors of the malware</a> used to breach Google and other organizations."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>ancientribe writes " The targeted attacks out of China that hit Google , Adobe , and other US organizations are still ongoing and have affected many more companies than the original 20 to 30 reported .
Security experts now say they are getting closer to identifying the author or authors of the malware used to breach Google and other organizations .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>ancientribe writes "The targeted attacks out of China that hit Google, Adobe, and other US organizations are still ongoing and have affected many more companies than the original 20 to 30 reported.
Security experts now say they are getting closer to identifying the author or authors of the malware used to breach Google and other organizations.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31096680</id>
	<title>Re:Gotta be a Chinese military virus.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265919120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For a long time it looked like William Gibson had the wrong view of the future with the Sprawl series. But now we have duelling Russian botnets which fight for exploited systems and AI captcha crackers. Major corporations base their income on the reduction and on-sale of found information. Infrastructure is increasingly dependent on information technology, and likely to be connected to the Internet.</p><p>Science fiction writers tend to over estimate short term progress and under estimate long term progress. I think Neuromancer is coming back.</p><p>The charge? Conspiracy to augment an artificial intelligence..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For a long time it looked like William Gibson had the wrong view of the future with the Sprawl series .
But now we have duelling Russian botnets which fight for exploited systems and AI captcha crackers .
Major corporations base their income on the reduction and on-sale of found information .
Infrastructure is increasingly dependent on information technology , and likely to be connected to the Internet.Science fiction writers tend to over estimate short term progress and under estimate long term progress .
I think Neuromancer is coming back.The charge ?
Conspiracy to augment an artificial intelligence. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For a long time it looked like William Gibson had the wrong view of the future with the Sprawl series.
But now we have duelling Russian botnets which fight for exploited systems and AI captcha crackers.
Major corporations base their income on the reduction and on-sale of found information.
Infrastructure is increasingly dependent on information technology, and likely to be connected to the Internet.Science fiction writers tend to over estimate short term progress and under estimate long term progress.
I think Neuromancer is coming back.The charge?
Conspiracy to augment an artificial intelligence..</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31096106</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31100136</id>
	<title>Re:Not Surprising</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265906460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe they could use <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkDD03yeLnU" title="youtube.com" rel="nofollow">VB to create a GUI interface to track their IP address</a> [youtube.com]?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe they could use VB to create a GUI interface to track their IP address [ youtube.com ] ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe they could use VB to create a GUI interface to track their IP address [youtube.com]?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31096040</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31095996</id>
	<title>Boy I can't wait!</title>
	<author>Weaselmancer</author>
	<datestamp>1265047800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As soon as the <i>United States</i> identifies the culprits <i>in China</i>...wow are they in trouble.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As soon as the United States identifies the culprits in China...wow are they in trouble .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As soon as the United States identifies the culprits in China...wow are they in trouble.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31095936</id>
	<title>Propaganda</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265047320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Google is a propaganda partner of US. It has blocked users from Syria and Iran since 2008 - <a href="http://www.pbs.org/mediashift/2008/10/google-blocks-chrome-browser-use-in-syria-iran287.html" title="pbs.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.pbs.org/mediashift/2008/10/google-blocks-chrome-browser-use-in-syria-iran287.html</a> [pbs.org] </p><p>The US media, however, is eager to twist the story. Why should I trust them to be any more honest in talking about China?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Google is a propaganda partner of US .
It has blocked users from Syria and Iran since 2008 - http : //www.pbs.org/mediashift/2008/10/google-blocks-chrome-browser-use-in-syria-iran287.html [ pbs.org ] The US media , however , is eager to twist the story .
Why should I trust them to be any more honest in talking about China ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google is a propaganda partner of US.
It has blocked users from Syria and Iran since 2008 - http://www.pbs.org/mediashift/2008/10/google-blocks-chrome-browser-use-in-syria-iran287.html [pbs.org] The US media, however, is eager to twist the story.
Why should I trust them to be any more honest in talking about China?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31102204</id>
	<title>Re:Chinese "Echelon"</title>
	<author>sp3d2orbit</author>
	<datestamp>1265916420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think the big difference is that China uses the information to murder human rights activists and in the US Jon Stewarts gets to rail against the establishment every night on national TV.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think the big difference is that China uses the information to murder human rights activists and in the US Jon Stewarts gets to rail against the establishment every night on national TV .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think the big difference is that China uses the information to murder human rights activists and in the US Jon Stewarts gets to rail against the establishment every night on national TV.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31097592</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31095972</id>
	<title>Extra! Extra! Read all about it!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265047560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Possible links to Australia porn retaliation!</p><p>Mysterious "Anonymous group" still unavailable for comment.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Possible links to Australia porn retaliation ! Mysterious " Anonymous group " still unavailable for comment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Possible links to Australia porn retaliation!Mysterious "Anonymous group" still unavailable for comment.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31096078</id>
	<title>Apology</title>
	<author>BhaKi</author>
	<datestamp>1265048400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>I failed to do enough research. Is there a way I can delete the parent post?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I failed to do enough research .
Is there a way I can delete the parent post ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I failed to do enough research.
Is there a way I can delete the parent post?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31095936</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31099260</id>
	<title>The villians must be found!</title>
	<author>Ukab the Great</author>
	<datestamp>1265902140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We have to find the villains who did this nefarious thing. Otherwise, we'd lack scapegoats and would have it admit to ourselves that:</p><p>- Adobe didn't learn a single damn lesson from Microsoft's Word  Macro Virus debacles as to why allowing code to be embedded in what most users consider to be a static, non-code executing document is such a bad thing.</p><p>- A business that supposedly hires the Best And The Brightest and discards applicants due to bad SAT scores 15 years ago got pwned.</p><p>- Businesses were too dumb and shortsighted to update their browsers to something less obsolete and pay for a standard's compliant redesign of their web applications.</p><p>- That most of these massive attacks are caused by script kiddies in China trying to impress girls by exploiting corporate stupidity, as opposed to Neo's elite evil twin.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We have to find the villains who did this nefarious thing .
Otherwise , we 'd lack scapegoats and would have it admit to ourselves that : - Adobe did n't learn a single damn lesson from Microsoft 's Word Macro Virus debacles as to why allowing code to be embedded in what most users consider to be a static , non-code executing document is such a bad thing.- A business that supposedly hires the Best And The Brightest and discards applicants due to bad SAT scores 15 years ago got pwned.- Businesses were too dumb and shortsighted to update their browsers to something less obsolete and pay for a standard 's compliant redesign of their web applications.- That most of these massive attacks are caused by script kiddies in China trying to impress girls by exploiting corporate stupidity , as opposed to Neo 's elite evil twin .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We have to find the villains who did this nefarious thing.
Otherwise, we'd lack scapegoats and would have it admit to ourselves that:- Adobe didn't learn a single damn lesson from Microsoft's Word  Macro Virus debacles as to why allowing code to be embedded in what most users consider to be a static, non-code executing document is such a bad thing.- A business that supposedly hires the Best And The Brightest and discards applicants due to bad SAT scores 15 years ago got pwned.- Businesses were too dumb and shortsighted to update their browsers to something less obsolete and pay for a standard's compliant redesign of their web applications.- That most of these massive attacks are caused by script kiddies in China trying to impress girls by exploiting corporate stupidity, as opposed to Neo's elite evil twin.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31096576</id>
	<title>Re:Would you run unknown code?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265053920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not that unknown.  If I remember correctly, they present at BlackHat every year and have published several books.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not that unknown .
If I remember correctly , they present at BlackHat every year and have published several books .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not that unknown.
If I remember correctly, they present at BlackHat every year and have published several books.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31095964</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31099560</id>
	<title>Re:Gotta be a Chinese military virus.</title>
	<author>mrybczyn</author>
	<datestamp>1265903760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Neuromancer is a book written by a time traveller.  There is no other explanation.  How could a guy in the 70's have seen the future so clearly?</p><p>Funny how Gibson's later works have gone off on less prophetic tangents.  I guess genius only lasts a little while.</p><p>If you're at all interested in technology, society, culture, scifi, the near future, science, or ninjas, you must read it, or audio book it on your iGroan:</p><p><a href="http://www.williamgibsonbooks.com/books/neuromancer.asp" title="williamgibsonbooks.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.williamgibsonbooks.com/books/neuromancer.asp</a> [williamgibsonbooks.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Neuromancer is a book written by a time traveller .
There is no other explanation .
How could a guy in the 70 's have seen the future so clearly ? Funny how Gibson 's later works have gone off on less prophetic tangents .
I guess genius only lasts a little while.If you 're at all interested in technology , society , culture , scifi , the near future , science , or ninjas , you must read it , or audio book it on your iGroan : http : //www.williamgibsonbooks.com/books/neuromancer.asp [ williamgibsonbooks.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Neuromancer is a book written by a time traveller.
There is no other explanation.
How could a guy in the 70's have seen the future so clearly?Funny how Gibson's later works have gone off on less prophetic tangents.
I guess genius only lasts a little while.If you're at all interested in technology, society, culture, scifi, the near future, science, or ninjas, you must read it, or audio book it on your iGroan:http://www.williamgibsonbooks.com/books/neuromancer.asp [williamgibsonbooks.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31096680</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31110934</id>
	<title>Re:Boy I can't wait!</title>
	<author>tehcyder</author>
	<datestamp>1265972940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>As soon as the United States identifies the culprits in China...wow are they in trouble.</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
Two words:
Extraordinary.  Rendition.
<br>
Nuff said.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>As soon as the United States identifies the culprits in China...wow are they in trouble .
Two words : Extraordinary .
Rendition . Nuff said .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As soon as the United States identifies the culprits in China...wow are they in trouble.
Two words:
Extraordinary.
Rendition.

Nuff said.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31095996</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31096646</id>
	<title>Re:Propaganda</title>
	<author>rtfa-troll</author>
	<datestamp>1265918820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Firefox exceptions apply because their (source) code is freely available for download (and so impossible to control).  Google doesn't have this excuse especially for their services or even software which are generally used with an ongoing connection to their servers (where they can easily use geo-location to pick on particular Iranian IP addresses).  The situation is not comparable.

</p><p>The crypto code from FireFox would probably be sufficient to make google's software a controlled item if it was integrated to their proprietary software.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Firefox exceptions apply because their ( source ) code is freely available for download ( and so impossible to control ) .
Google does n't have this excuse especially for their services or even software which are generally used with an ongoing connection to their servers ( where they can easily use geo-location to pick on particular Iranian IP addresses ) .
The situation is not comparable .
The crypto code from FireFox would probably be sufficient to make google 's software a controlled item if it was integrated to their proprietary software .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Firefox exceptions apply because their (source) code is freely available for download (and so impossible to control).
Google doesn't have this excuse especially for their services or even software which are generally used with an ongoing connection to their servers (where they can easily use geo-location to pick on particular Iranian IP addresses).
The situation is not comparable.
The crypto code from FireFox would probably be sufficient to make google's software a controlled item if it was integrated to their proprietary software.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31096498</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31096636</id>
	<title>That Depends</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265918700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Is there a way (to) delete (a Slashdot) post?</i></p><p>That depends.  Is your name Xenu?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is there a way ( to ) delete ( a Slashdot ) post ? That depends .
Is your name Xenu ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is there a way (to) delete (a Slashdot) post?That depends.
Is your name Xenu?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31096078</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31098586</id>
	<title>Re:Not Surprising</title>
	<author>machine321</author>
	<datestamp>1265898480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Getting closer to identifying the authors" means "we have no fucking clue where to start looking".  If they were really closing in, the last thing they'd want is a press release.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Getting closer to identifying the authors " means " we have no fucking clue where to start looking " .
If they were really closing in , the last thing they 'd want is a press release .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Getting closer to identifying the authors" means "we have no fucking clue where to start looking".
If they were really closing in, the last thing they'd want is a press release.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31096040</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31095984</id>
	<title>Extra! Extra! Read all about it!</title>
	<author>y4ku</author>
	<datestamp>1265047680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Links to attack on Australian porn censorship!

Mysterious group know as "Anonymous" still unavailable for comment!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Links to attack on Australian porn censorship !
Mysterious group know as " Anonymous " still unavailable for comment !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Links to attack on Australian porn censorship!
Mysterious group know as "Anonymous" still unavailable for comment!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31097904</id>
	<title>Re:Apology</title>
	<author>RMH101</author>
	<datestamp>1265890440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>that's what the goatse posts are: it's a secret undo function.  post a link to goatse.cz without posting anonymously and it deletes your last post.</htmltext>
<tokenext>that 's what the goatse posts are : it 's a secret undo function .
post a link to goatse.cz without posting anonymously and it deletes your last post .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>that's what the goatse posts are: it's a secret undo function.
post a link to goatse.cz without posting anonymously and it deletes your last post.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31096078</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31096052</id>
	<title>Re:Propaganda</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265048280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You are correct.<br> <br>

The recent surge of Toyota's bad publicity is also a FUD campaign to discourage Americans from buying one of the most popular and reliable brands and instead buy GM's pieces of shit.<br> <br>

The recent pop-culture emphasis of babies and breeding (Brangelina, Octomom, and Jon and Kate) is to encourage copycats to breed a new generation of proletariat consumers and disposable warriors to prop up the corporations and the government's imperialist forays.<br> <br>

The recent scaremongering with respect to germs like H1N1, SARS, and other more mundane disease is again to scare people into propping up Big Pharma and serving as unwitting test subjects for hitherto-unknown live clinical trials.<br> <br>

And now, the corporations and governments won't even need to fool you - they're one and the same in America, the Fifth Reich.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You are correct .
The recent surge of Toyota 's bad publicity is also a FUD campaign to discourage Americans from buying one of the most popular and reliable brands and instead buy GM 's pieces of shit .
The recent pop-culture emphasis of babies and breeding ( Brangelina , Octomom , and Jon and Kate ) is to encourage copycats to breed a new generation of proletariat consumers and disposable warriors to prop up the corporations and the government 's imperialist forays .
The recent scaremongering with respect to germs like H1N1 , SARS , and other more mundane disease is again to scare people into propping up Big Pharma and serving as unwitting test subjects for hitherto-unknown live clinical trials .
And now , the corporations and governments wo n't even need to fool you - they 're one and the same in America , the Fifth Reich .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You are correct.
The recent surge of Toyota's bad publicity is also a FUD campaign to discourage Americans from buying one of the most popular and reliable brands and instead buy GM's pieces of shit.
The recent pop-culture emphasis of babies and breeding (Brangelina, Octomom, and Jon and Kate) is to encourage copycats to breed a new generation of proletariat consumers and disposable warriors to prop up the corporations and the government's imperialist forays.
The recent scaremongering with respect to germs like H1N1, SARS, and other more mundane disease is again to scare people into propping up Big Pharma and serving as unwitting test subjects for hitherto-unknown live clinical trials.
And now, the corporations and governments won't even need to fool you - they're one and the same in America, the Fifth Reich.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31095936</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31096770</id>
	<title>min0s 4, Troll)</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265920140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><A HREF="http://goat.cx/" title="goat.cx" rel="nofollow">an operating system Where i7 was when</a> [goat.cx]</htmltext>
<tokenext>an operating system Where i7 was when [ goat.cx ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>an operating system Where i7 was when [goat.cx]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31096188</id>
	<title>Re:Apology</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265049720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>You have to e-mail malda@slashdot.org with the post number in the subject line and ask him to delete it. He dosen't know much English and he tends to have a bad attitude, so you have to be persistent. It should take no more than 5 requests before he removes the post.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You have to e-mail malda @ slashdot.org with the post number in the subject line and ask him to delete it .
He dose n't know much English and he tends to have a bad attitude , so you have to be persistent .
It should take no more than 5 requests before he removes the post .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You have to e-mail malda@slashdot.org with the post number in the subject line and ask him to delete it.
He dosen't know much English and he tends to have a bad attitude, so you have to be persistent.
It should take no more than 5 requests before he removes the post.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31096078</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31096284</id>
	<title>Catch the Wave!</title>
	<author>Korbeau</author>
	<datestamp>1265050800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Your love is fading<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...<br>I just made a giant masterpiece printed all over the greatest world newspaper nerds!</p><p>My brother is wearing the other one<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p><p>Such a bitch.  Everyone knows the other Google is dirty.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Your love is fading ...I just made a giant masterpiece printed all over the greatest world newspaper nerds ! My brother is wearing the other one ...Such a bitch .
Everyone knows the other Google is dirty .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your love is fading ...I just made a giant masterpiece printed all over the greatest world newspaper nerds!My brother is wearing the other one ...Such a bitch.
Everyone knows the other Google is dirty.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31096396</id>
	<title>Re:Propaganda</title>
	<author>nedlohs</author>
	<datestamp>1265051820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, obeying US export restrictions is propaganda.</p><p>They should just ignore them and go to prison so you feel better in your paranoid world.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , obeying US export restrictions is propaganda.They should just ignore them and go to prison so you feel better in your paranoid world .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, obeying US export restrictions is propaganda.They should just ignore them and go to prison so you feel better in your paranoid world.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31095936</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31104108</id>
	<title>Re:Chinese "Echelon"</title>
	<author>RzUpAnmsCwrds</author>
	<datestamp>1265879580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Echelon, to my knowledge, does not involve the active breaching of private systems. That's the difference. If you have evidence that US government supported entities have actively breached private companies in China, I'd like to hear it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Echelon , to my knowledge , does not involve the active breaching of private systems .
That 's the difference .
If you have evidence that US government supported entities have actively breached private companies in China , I 'd like to hear it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Echelon, to my knowledge, does not involve the active breaching of private systems.
That's the difference.
If you have evidence that US government supported entities have actively breached private companies in China, I'd like to hear it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31097592</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31096178</id>
	<title>Re:Apology</title>
	<author>TubeSteak</author>
	<datestamp>1265049660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I failed to do enough research. Is there a way I can delete the parent post?</p></div><p>slashcode has a secret delete function that lets you hide your shame.<br>You have to reply to your post you want to delete with:<br><i>Dear aunt, let's set so double the killer delete select all.</i></p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I failed to do enough research .
Is there a way I can delete the parent post ? slashcode has a secret delete function that lets you hide your shame.You have to reply to your post you want to delete with : Dear aunt , let 's set so double the killer delete select all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I failed to do enough research.
Is there a way I can delete the parent post?slashcode has a secret delete function that lets you hide your shame.You have to reply to your post you want to delete with:Dear aunt, let's set so double the killer delete select all.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31096078</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31096090</id>
	<title>it's all me</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265048460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>But I'm an anon coward, muhahaha.  Trace that!</htmltext>
<tokenext>But I 'm an anon coward , muhahaha .
Trace that !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But I'm an anon coward, muhahaha.
Trace that!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31098298</id>
	<title>YOU fAIL IT!?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265895720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><A HREF="http://goat.cx/" title="goat.cx" rel="nofollow">Come on baby...and OF AMERICA) is the were compouEnded</a> [goat.cx]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Come on baby...and OF AMERICA ) is the were compouEnded [ goat.cx ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Come on baby...and OF AMERICA) is the were compouEnded [goat.cx]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31097800</id>
	<title>Re:The interesting bits...</title>
	<author>cerberusss</author>
	<datestamp>1265889300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Serious pressure on software vendors to make sure their app doesn't need admin rights to run on a Windows box would be a nice step.</p></div><p>Serious pressure is not going to cut it. We need real, authentic pressure on top executives of software companies. That means looking up their names and addresses, and finding out if they have a pet or not. A poodle or some such. Then a team of open-source ninja's should capture the poodle of the executive and put a video on 4chan, clearly stating what we want from them. "No admin rights or the poodle gets it".</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Serious pressure on software vendors to make sure their app does n't need admin rights to run on a Windows box would be a nice step.Serious pressure is not going to cut it .
We need real , authentic pressure on top executives of software companies .
That means looking up their names and addresses , and finding out if they have a pet or not .
A poodle or some such .
Then a team of open-source ninja 's should capture the poodle of the executive and put a video on 4chan , clearly stating what we want from them .
" No admin rights or the poodle gets it " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Serious pressure on software vendors to make sure their app doesn't need admin rights to run on a Windows box would be a nice step.Serious pressure is not going to cut it.
We need real, authentic pressure on top executives of software companies.
That means looking up their names and addresses, and finding out if they have a pet or not.
A poodle or some such.
Then a team of open-source ninja's should capture the poodle of the executive and put a video on 4chan, clearly stating what we want from them.
"No admin rights or the poodle gets it".
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31096442</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31096920</id>
	<title>Comment header</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265921700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm guessing the "hacker" responsible listed their name in the comment header.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/*<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * goofle -- program exploits vulnerabilities @ google.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; *<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Author:  Johnson "the tiger" Zhang<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; *<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Purpose:  Repress dissidents and hack pron site passwords.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; *<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Usage: goofle --help<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; *<br>*/</p><p>#include<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p><p>Yeah I know comments don't make it through compilation.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm guessing the " hacker " responsible listed their name in the comment header .
/ *         * goofle -- program exploits vulnerabilities @ google .
        *         * Author : Johnson " the tiger " Zhang         *         * Purpose : Repress dissidents and hack pron site passwords .
        *         * Usage : goofle --help         * * / # include ...Yeah I know comments do n't make it through compilation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm guessing the "hacker" responsible listed their name in the comment header.
/*
        * goofle -- program exploits vulnerabilities @ google.
        *
        * Author:  Johnson "the tiger" Zhang
        *
        * Purpose:  Repress dissidents and hack pron site passwords.
        *
        * Usage: goofle --help
        **/#include ...Yeah I know comments don't make it through compilation.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31103052</id>
	<title>Here's a Dollar, buy a clue.</title>
	<author>Virtucon</author>
	<datestamp>1265918940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It was Col. Mustard, in the Dining room, with a Candle Stick.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It was Col. Mustard , in the Dining room , with a Candle Stick .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It was Col. Mustard, in the Dining room, with a Candle Stick.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31096106</id>
	<title>Gotta be a Chinese military virus.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265048580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Probably a Kuang Grade Mark Eleven.  Big mother.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Probably a Kuang Grade Mark Eleven .
Big mother .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Probably a Kuang Grade Mark Eleven.
Big mother.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31096050</id>
	<title>After Tracing the Chinese Noodles...</title>
	<author>Bob\_Who</author>
	<datestamp>1265048280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>...One finds them self hungry again in an hour.</htmltext>
<tokenext>...One finds them self hungry again in an hour .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...One finds them self hungry again in an hour.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31097402</id>
	<title>Re:Would you run unknown code?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265884800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, it's true that his wikipedia entry isn't a gem, but, it dates to 2007, you're free to read it:</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg\_Hoglund" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg\_Hoglund</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , it 's true that his wikipedia entry is n't a gem , but , it dates to 2007 , you 're free to read it : http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg \ _Hoglund [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, it's true that his wikipedia entry isn't a gem, but, it dates to 2007, you're free to read it:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg\_Hoglund [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31095964</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31096498</id>
	<title>Re:Propaganda</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265053020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So shouldn't they go get the <a href="http://www.internetnews.com/government/article.php/3839831/Mozilla+Firefox+Cleared+of+US+Export+Rules.htm" title="internetnews.com" rel="nofollow">Exemption</a> [internetnews.com]  Firefox got, or replace their crypto code with Firefox's code?</p><p>
Or (since Chrome is Windows-only)...
use the CSPs in Windows for crypto operations, instead of shipping crypto code with their browser..
</p><p>
Sorry, the <em>US Law</em> excuse doesn't really hold water here.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So should n't they go get the Exemption [ internetnews.com ] Firefox got , or replace their crypto code with Firefox 's code ?
Or ( since Chrome is Windows-only ) .. . use the CSPs in Windows for crypto operations , instead of shipping crypto code with their browser. . Sorry , the US Law excuse does n't really hold water here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So shouldn't they go get the Exemption [internetnews.com]  Firefox got, or replace their crypto code with Firefox's code?
Or (since Chrome is Windows-only)...
use the CSPs in Windows for crypto operations, instead of shipping crypto code with their browser..

Sorry, the US Law excuse doesn't really hold water here.
</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31095998</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31096040</id>
	<title>Not Surprising</title>
	<author>LuNa7ic</author>
	<datestamp>1265048220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Do you really expect that they would say anything else?

"Sorry guys, this one has us stumped, we've no idea who did it."

There are 15 paragraphs in TFA, and they've used them to not say a damned thing. Why did they even put this press release out?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do you really expect that they would say anything else ?
" Sorry guys , this one has us stumped , we 've no idea who did it .
" There are 15 paragraphs in TFA , and they 've used them to not say a damned thing .
Why did they even put this press release out ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do you really expect that they would say anything else?
"Sorry guys, this one has us stumped, we've no idea who did it.
"

There are 15 paragraphs in TFA, and they've used them to not say a damned thing.
Why did they even put this press release out?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31096988</id>
	<title>Re:Propaganda</title>
	<author>228e2</author>
	<datestamp>1265879100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Best. First Post. Ever.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Best .
First Post .
Ever .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Best.
First Post.
Ever.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31095936</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31096254</id>
	<title>Re:Boy I can't wait!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265050380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Old news. They've already identified the culprit. And released a description<p><div class="quote"><p>He has dark hair and is of Asian appearance</p></div><p>
Shouldn't be long before they catch him...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Old news .
They 've already identified the culprit .
And released a descriptionHe has dark hair and is of Asian appearance Should n't be long before they catch him.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Old news.
They've already identified the culprit.
And released a descriptionHe has dark hair and is of Asian appearance
Shouldn't be long before they catch him...
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31095996</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31097592</id>
	<title>Chinese "Echelon"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265887140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Some states do use secret "Echelon" system to break into private and other states' communication systems. Yes, supposedly and by a self-proclamation these are the "good guys".</p><p>Is it a feasible international framework that if one feels himself to be a "good guy" he can eavesdrop on electronic systems? But if he looks like a bad guy, speaks in some exotic ethnic language, then it is a condemnable behavior.</p><p>But to Chinese and other Asian people we look like strange exotic humans. There is even a word for European-like people in Asia - "long-noses". And when one lives there it feels exactly this: being a "long nose" among normal people.</p><p>So they know that good guys eavesdrop on them with an "Echelon" and keep silence philosophically, but when they try to get some info via eavesdropping a commercial company "Google", it causes a global panic. Or do I get it wrongly?</p><p>Maybe it makes sense to lead by an example?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Some states do use secret " Echelon " system to break into private and other states ' communication systems .
Yes , supposedly and by a self-proclamation these are the " good guys " .Is it a feasible international framework that if one feels himself to be a " good guy " he can eavesdrop on electronic systems ?
But if he looks like a bad guy , speaks in some exotic ethnic language , then it is a condemnable behavior.But to Chinese and other Asian people we look like strange exotic humans .
There is even a word for European-like people in Asia - " long-noses " .
And when one lives there it feels exactly this : being a " long nose " among normal people.So they know that good guys eavesdrop on them with an " Echelon " and keep silence philosophically , but when they try to get some info via eavesdropping a commercial company " Google " , it causes a global panic .
Or do I get it wrongly ? Maybe it makes sense to lead by an example ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Some states do use secret "Echelon" system to break into private and other states' communication systems.
Yes, supposedly and by a self-proclamation these are the "good guys".Is it a feasible international framework that if one feels himself to be a "good guy" he can eavesdrop on electronic systems?
But if he looks like a bad guy, speaks in some exotic ethnic language, then it is a condemnable behavior.But to Chinese and other Asian people we look like strange exotic humans.
There is even a word for European-like people in Asia - "long-noses".
And when one lives there it feels exactly this: being a "long nose" among normal people.So they know that good guys eavesdrop on them with an "Echelon" and keep silence philosophically, but when they try to get some info via eavesdropping a commercial company "Google", it causes a global panic.
Or do I get it wrongly?Maybe it makes sense to lead by an example?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31098422</id>
	<title>authors</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265896980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>forget the authors, who paid them?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>forget the authors , who paid them ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>forget the authors, who paid them?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31098178</id>
	<title>Re:The interesting bits...</title>
	<author>jimicus</author>
	<datestamp>1265894340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Serious pressure on software vendors to make sure their app doesn't need admin rights to run on a Windows box would be a nice step.</p></div><p>Normal users can't install a service but they <b>can</b> set up an application to run on a scheduled basis.  They can also have some tasks run when they log in.</p><p>Normal users can see data.  Sometimes it's confidential data.</p><p>Normal users can usually somehow connect to the outside world - even if it's only by email.</p><p>So I don't see how this would really solve anything in the long term.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Serious pressure on software vendors to make sure their app does n't need admin rights to run on a Windows box would be a nice step.Normal users ca n't install a service but they can set up an application to run on a scheduled basis .
They can also have some tasks run when they log in.Normal users can see data .
Sometimes it 's confidential data.Normal users can usually somehow connect to the outside world - even if it 's only by email.So I do n't see how this would really solve anything in the long term .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Serious pressure on software vendors to make sure their app doesn't need admin rights to run on a Windows box would be a nice step.Normal users can't install a service but they can set up an application to run on a scheduled basis.
They can also have some tasks run when they log in.Normal users can see data.
Sometimes it's confidential data.Normal users can usually somehow connect to the outside world - even if it's only by email.So I don't see how this would really solve anything in the long term.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31096442</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31096472</id>
	<title>Re:Propaganda</title>
	<author>cyberzephyr</author>
	<datestamp>1265052600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Syria is not being looked at on this forum.  Google is doing some funky stuff that even makes me feel wierd.</p><p>We look at different things.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Syria is not being looked at on this forum .
Google is doing some funky stuff that even makes me feel wierd.We look at different things .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Syria is not being looked at on this forum.
Google is doing some funky stuff that even makes me feel wierd.We look at different things.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31095936</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31096408</id>
	<title>Re:Apology</title>
	<author>nedlohs</author>
	<datestamp>1265052000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Where "enough research" would be just skimming through the article you decided to use as evidence for your ridiculous assertion?</p><p>That's a mighty low bar you've set there.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Where " enough research " would be just skimming through the article you decided to use as evidence for your ridiculous assertion ? That 's a mighty low bar you 've set there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Where "enough research" would be just skimming through the article you decided to use as evidence for your ridiculous assertion?That's a mighty low bar you've set there.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31096078</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31096388</id>
	<title>Re:Propaganda</title>
	<author>jhoegl</author>
	<datestamp>1265051760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Uh, PBS is a non-profit funded by people that watch it, not the government.

It has no political ties nor does it use adverts to fund itself.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Uh , PBS is a non-profit funded by people that watch it , not the government .
It has no political ties nor does it use adverts to fund itself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Uh, PBS is a non-profit funded by people that watch it, not the government.
It has no political ties nor does it use adverts to fund itself.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31096032</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31096252</id>
	<title>Re:Apology</title>
	<author>interkin3tic</author>
	<datestamp>1265050380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I failed to do enough research. Is there a way I can delete the parent post?</p></div><p>Perhaps you should have done some more research on that second subject before you posted it as a question.  If we answer now, you'll never learn.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I failed to do enough research .
Is there a way I can delete the parent post ? Perhaps you should have done some more research on that second subject before you posted it as a question .
If we answer now , you 'll never learn .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I failed to do enough research.
Is there a way I can delete the parent post?Perhaps you should have done some more research on that second subject before you posted it as a question.
If we answer now, you'll never learn.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31096034</id>
	<title>Re:Propaganda</title>
	<author>interkin3tic</author>
	<datestamp>1265048160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, not outright offering Syrians and Iranians their browser, while leaving plenty ways they can still get chrome, and citing sanctions against those countries as the reason is CLEARLY a "propaganda partnership."  I mean google has so much to gain by playing along with this massive international conspiracy.  So very much.  After all, if a resident of Syria were able to use google chrome, the Combine would be unable to stop Gordon Freeman, which is also Google's sworn enemy.</p><p>Matter of fact, -I- haven't offered Syrians OR Iranians anything free lately.  I guess I'm part of the propaganda machine...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , not outright offering Syrians and Iranians their browser , while leaving plenty ways they can still get chrome , and citing sanctions against those countries as the reason is CLEARLY a " propaganda partnership .
" I mean google has so much to gain by playing along with this massive international conspiracy .
So very much .
After all , if a resident of Syria were able to use google chrome , the Combine would be unable to stop Gordon Freeman , which is also Google 's sworn enemy.Matter of fact , -I- have n't offered Syrians OR Iranians anything free lately .
I guess I 'm part of the propaganda machine.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, not outright offering Syrians and Iranians their browser, while leaving plenty ways they can still get chrome, and citing sanctions against those countries as the reason is CLEARLY a "propaganda partnership.
"  I mean google has so much to gain by playing along with this massive international conspiracy.
So very much.
After all, if a resident of Syria were able to use google chrome, the Combine would be unable to stop Gordon Freeman, which is also Google's sworn enemy.Matter of fact, -I- haven't offered Syrians OR Iranians anything free lately.
I guess I'm part of the propaganda machine...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31095936</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31096084</id>
	<title>Re:Propaganda</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265048400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; Google is a propaganda partner of US.<br>First, get out of that sh...hole, then get some education, then we'll talk propaganda.</p><p>I understand false beliefs - we all have a few, but lack of basic logic in people's thinking in this day and age is just astonishing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; Google is a propaganda partner of US.First , get out of that sh...hole , then get some education , then we 'll talk propaganda.I understand false beliefs - we all have a few , but lack of basic logic in people 's thinking in this day and age is just astonishing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; Google is a propaganda partner of US.First, get out of that sh...hole, then get some education, then we'll talk propaganda.I understand false beliefs - we all have a few, but lack of basic logic in people's thinking in this day and age is just astonishing.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31095936</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31097512</id>
	<title>Simple, really</title>
	<author>bytesex</author>
	<datestamp>1265886420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can only imagine two outcomes to this: the perpetrators are found, and are found to be \_not\_ (in the pockets of) the Chinese government, and they are found precisely because of this: I mean, we're talking about *Google*, the *US* and *China* man !  To hell with ordinary malware creators and spamhouses that no law enforcement ever seems to be able to nail, this is important !</p><p>Or, they are (suspected to be) still of the Chinese government, in which case it likely dead-end somewhere.</p><p>Both outcomes would make me kind of cynical, but that's just me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I can only imagine two outcomes to this : the perpetrators are found , and are found to be \ _not \ _ ( in the pockets of ) the Chinese government , and they are found precisely because of this : I mean , we 're talking about * Google * , the * US * and * China * man !
To hell with ordinary malware creators and spamhouses that no law enforcement ever seems to be able to nail , this is important ! Or , they are ( suspected to be ) still of the Chinese government , in which case it likely dead-end somewhere.Both outcomes would make me kind of cynical , but that 's just me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can only imagine two outcomes to this: the perpetrators are found, and are found to be \_not\_ (in the pockets of) the Chinese government, and they are found precisely because of this: I mean, we're talking about *Google*, the *US* and *China* man !
To hell with ordinary malware creators and spamhouses that no law enforcement ever seems to be able to nail, this is important !Or, they are (suspected to be) still of the Chinese government, in which case it likely dead-end somewhere.Both outcomes would make me kind of cynical, but that's just me.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31100576</id>
	<title>Re:Boy I can't wait!</title>
	<author>theshowmecanuck</author>
	<datestamp>1265908320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just block all connections between China and the rest or the world for a week or so. Let's see if China feels the economic impact. If it doesn't stop America and others should simply default on all loans from China. The saving on interest payments will more than allow them to balance their books.</p><p>Seriously, any person or company that deals with China any more than they have to gets what they deserve. Why are we dealing with them anyway. Oh yeah, there is so much POTENTIAL for trade with them. Oh wait I forgot, <i>there isn't any western country that isn't running a trade deficit with China</i>. So I ask, why the fuck are we even dealing with them? So Wall Street types can make more profit because Chinese work for peanuts and the profit margins of companies with Chinese labour is so good? Meanwhile, the rest of society is going bankrupt because they are so stupid they continuously pay to support the act of losing their jobs to overseas markets. Yeah times are tough and you need to cut back. Stop buying at China loving Wall Mart, get rid of the extra cars you buy your kids and tell them to ride their fucking bicycles to school like kids used to do. Stop buying the second, third, fourth, big screen LCD TVs. GET FUCKING REAL.</p><p>Boycot the Chines motherfuckers. They are the ones <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703382904575058641316152822.html?mod=WSJ\_latestheadlines#articleTabs\_comments\%3D\%26articleTabs\%3Darticle\%26mg\%3Dcom-wsj" title="wsj.com">allowing Iran to enrich weapons grade fissionables so that they can fuel the process of taking our manufacturing jobs</a> [wsj.com] (ironically, with the help of Wall Street). Chop it off now. They are a rotting gangrenous limb on the rest of the world. You can't make friends with a dictator without it somehow affecting you. Internet attacks, aggressive military actions on Tibet and towards Taiwan, and the loss of tens of millions of manufacturing jobs. Working with China has NOT been beneficial to the west. At least not to the average person.</p><p>I am working, so this is not a rant from someone recently unemployed. It is a rant at what I see as a downward spiral because greed keeps us dealing with China because we see the false promise of riches. Every time the cost of their goods goes up, they drop the value of their currency, and while we can complain about it, there is nothing that we can actually do about it. Americans and the rest of the west, INCLUDING EUROPE AND CANADA, have all been pussified. Everyone wants their 3000 square foot home and lazyboy chair and football game on TV on Sunday. And no one is ever responsible for their own actions.</p><p>So fuck it, stop bitching about Chinese internet attacks, bend over, and let them insert their collective (get it, communists), their collective cocks up you ass. At least you get a cheap DVD player and big screen out of the deal.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just block all connections between China and the rest or the world for a week or so .
Let 's see if China feels the economic impact .
If it does n't stop America and others should simply default on all loans from China .
The saving on interest payments will more than allow them to balance their books.Seriously , any person or company that deals with China any more than they have to gets what they deserve .
Why are we dealing with them anyway .
Oh yeah , there is so much POTENTIAL for trade with them .
Oh wait I forgot , there is n't any western country that is n't running a trade deficit with China .
So I ask , why the fuck are we even dealing with them ?
So Wall Street types can make more profit because Chinese work for peanuts and the profit margins of companies with Chinese labour is so good ?
Meanwhile , the rest of society is going bankrupt because they are so stupid they continuously pay to support the act of losing their jobs to overseas markets .
Yeah times are tough and you need to cut back .
Stop buying at China loving Wall Mart , get rid of the extra cars you buy your kids and tell them to ride their fucking bicycles to school like kids used to do .
Stop buying the second , third , fourth , big screen LCD TVs .
GET FUCKING REAL.Boycot the Chines motherfuckers .
They are the ones allowing Iran to enrich weapons grade fissionables so that they can fuel the process of taking our manufacturing jobs [ wsj.com ] ( ironically , with the help of Wall Street ) .
Chop it off now .
They are a rotting gangrenous limb on the rest of the world .
You ca n't make friends with a dictator without it somehow affecting you .
Internet attacks , aggressive military actions on Tibet and towards Taiwan , and the loss of tens of millions of manufacturing jobs .
Working with China has NOT been beneficial to the west .
At least not to the average person.I am working , so this is not a rant from someone recently unemployed .
It is a rant at what I see as a downward spiral because greed keeps us dealing with China because we see the false promise of riches .
Every time the cost of their goods goes up , they drop the value of their currency , and while we can complain about it , there is nothing that we can actually do about it .
Americans and the rest of the west , INCLUDING EUROPE AND CANADA , have all been pussified .
Everyone wants their 3000 square foot home and lazyboy chair and football game on TV on Sunday .
And no one is ever responsible for their own actions.So fuck it , stop bitching about Chinese internet attacks , bend over , and let them insert their collective ( get it , communists ) , their collective cocks up you ass .
At least you get a cheap DVD player and big screen out of the deal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just block all connections between China and the rest or the world for a week or so.
Let's see if China feels the economic impact.
If it doesn't stop America and others should simply default on all loans from China.
The saving on interest payments will more than allow them to balance their books.Seriously, any person or company that deals with China any more than they have to gets what they deserve.
Why are we dealing with them anyway.
Oh yeah, there is so much POTENTIAL for trade with them.
Oh wait I forgot, there isn't any western country that isn't running a trade deficit with China.
So I ask, why the fuck are we even dealing with them?
So Wall Street types can make more profit because Chinese work for peanuts and the profit margins of companies with Chinese labour is so good?
Meanwhile, the rest of society is going bankrupt because they are so stupid they continuously pay to support the act of losing their jobs to overseas markets.
Yeah times are tough and you need to cut back.
Stop buying at China loving Wall Mart, get rid of the extra cars you buy your kids and tell them to ride their fucking bicycles to school like kids used to do.
Stop buying the second, third, fourth, big screen LCD TVs.
GET FUCKING REAL.Boycot the Chines motherfuckers.
They are the ones allowing Iran to enrich weapons grade fissionables so that they can fuel the process of taking our manufacturing jobs [wsj.com] (ironically, with the help of Wall Street).
Chop it off now.
They are a rotting gangrenous limb on the rest of the world.
You can't make friends with a dictator without it somehow affecting you.
Internet attacks, aggressive military actions on Tibet and towards Taiwan, and the loss of tens of millions of manufacturing jobs.
Working with China has NOT been beneficial to the west.
At least not to the average person.I am working, so this is not a rant from someone recently unemployed.
It is a rant at what I see as a downward spiral because greed keeps us dealing with China because we see the false promise of riches.
Every time the cost of their goods goes up, they drop the value of their currency, and while we can complain about it, there is nothing that we can actually do about it.
Americans and the rest of the west, INCLUDING EUROPE AND CANADA, have all been pussified.
Everyone wants their 3000 square foot home and lazyboy chair and football game on TV on Sunday.
And no one is ever responsible for their own actions.So fuck it, stop bitching about Chinese internet attacks, bend over, and let them insert their collective (get it, communists), their collective cocks up you ass.
At least you get a cheap DVD player and big screen out of the deal.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31095996</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31097876</id>
	<title>Translation:</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1265890140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Security experts now say they are getting closer to identifying the author or authors of the malware</p></div><p>Translated: They now have narrowed the list down to a hand full of people, and will soon decide who will be the best scapegoat.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Security experts now say they are getting closer to identifying the author or authors of the malwareTranslated : They now have narrowed the list down to a hand full of people , and will soon decide who will be the best scapegoat .
; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Security experts now say they are getting closer to identifying the author or authors of the malwareTranslated: They now have narrowed the list down to a hand full of people, and will soon decide who will be the best scapegoat.
;)
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31097806</id>
	<title>Re:Not Surprising</title>
	<author>willyg</author>
	<datestamp>1265889300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Why did they even put this press release out?"</p><p>I thought the reason to put it out was obvious.  I know, who on Slashdot would RTFA, but I thought it was obvious from the money shot at the end of the article:</p><p>"Companies are waking up to the fact that they've under-invested in the area of security around surveillance and monitoring and forensics to get to the bottom of what happened."</p><p>* Buy our Services! Buy Now! Help us spread FUD so your associates buy our services!!! *</p><p>Or maybe I'm just being cynical...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Why did they even put this press release out ?
" I thought the reason to put it out was obvious .
I know , who on Slashdot would RTFA , but I thought it was obvious from the money shot at the end of the article : " Companies are waking up to the fact that they 've under-invested in the area of security around surveillance and monitoring and forensics to get to the bottom of what happened .
" * Buy our Services !
Buy Now !
Help us spread FUD so your associates buy our services ! ! !
* Or maybe I 'm just being cynical.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Why did they even put this press release out?
"I thought the reason to put it out was obvious.
I know, who on Slashdot would RTFA, but I thought it was obvious from the money shot at the end of the article:"Companies are waking up to the fact that they've under-invested in the area of security around surveillance and monitoring and forensics to get to the bottom of what happened.
"* Buy our Services!
Buy Now!
Help us spread FUD so your associates buy our services!!!
*Or maybe I'm just being cynical...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31097052</id>
	<title>not sure its a good idea to say this</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265879760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In retaliation to the investigations and accusations, BAE Uk got a massive attack wave this weekend, much larger than anything Google saw. All the attacks came from proxys, but deeper probes showed all the traffic was from china.</p><p>BAE had all their systems crippled and apprently had shut the whole network down(we are talking about thousand upon thousands of machines), reset all passwords and wipe a lot of boxes. You wont hear this in the news though. It would be seriously bad for business if the US and Uk governments got wind of it.</p><p>China* wont go down without a fight.</p><p>*whoever is organising it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In retaliation to the investigations and accusations , BAE Uk got a massive attack wave this weekend , much larger than anything Google saw .
All the attacks came from proxys , but deeper probes showed all the traffic was from china.BAE had all their systems crippled and apprently had shut the whole network down ( we are talking about thousand upon thousands of machines ) , reset all passwords and wipe a lot of boxes .
You wont hear this in the news though .
It would be seriously bad for business if the US and Uk governments got wind of it.China * wont go down without a fight .
* whoever is organising it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In retaliation to the investigations and accusations, BAE Uk got a massive attack wave this weekend, much larger than anything Google saw.
All the attacks came from proxys, but deeper probes showed all the traffic was from china.BAE had all their systems crippled and apprently had shut the whole network down(we are talking about thousand upon thousands of machines), reset all passwords and wipe a lot of boxes.
You wont hear this in the news though.
It would be seriously bad for business if the US and Uk governments got wind of it.China* wont go down without a fight.
*whoever is organising it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31096616</id>
	<title>They would already have him</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265918460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But these damn Chinese names all sound the same to a westener's ear.</p><p>Ya know that old joke, how do you choose the name for your Chinese child? Drop a silver spoon on a piece of Jade and the sound created is the name.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But these damn Chinese names all sound the same to a westener 's ear.Ya know that old joke , how do you choose the name for your Chinese child ?
Drop a silver spoon on a piece of Jade and the sound created is the name .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But these damn Chinese names all sound the same to a westener's ear.Ya know that old joke, how do you choose the name for your Chinese child?
Drop a silver spoon on a piece of Jade and the sound created is the name.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31097246</id>
	<title>Re:Boy I can't wait!</title>
	<author>gaelfx</author>
	<datestamp>1265882940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Are you referring to the US, to China or to both? Or the infamous third man that nobody sees until the last reel?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Are you referring to the US , to China or to both ?
Or the infamous third man that nobody sees until the last reel ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are you referring to the US, to China or to both?
Or the infamous third man that nobody sees until the last reel?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31095996</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31095998</id>
	<title>Re:Propaganda</title>
	<author>ahabswhale</author>
	<datestamp>1265047800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Apparently you're too stupid to read the article YOU linked.  They are not permitted to allow countries like Syria and Iran to download their apps to comply with US law.  Given that they're a US based company, what the fuck do you expect them to do?</p><p>You need to work a lot harder than that to prove propaganda.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apparently you 're too stupid to read the article YOU linked .
They are not permitted to allow countries like Syria and Iran to download their apps to comply with US law .
Given that they 're a US based company , what the fuck do you expect them to do ? You need to work a lot harder than that to prove propaganda .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apparently you're too stupid to read the article YOU linked.
They are not permitted to allow countries like Syria and Iran to download their apps to comply with US law.
Given that they're a US based company, what the fuck do you expect them to do?You need to work a lot harder than that to prove propaganda.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31095936</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31095974</id>
	<title>Just google them</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265047620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Results 1 to 10 of 5,000,000,000 for "google wannabe hackers".<br><br>1. Some Script Kiddie<br><br>2. Wannabe h4xx0r<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Results 1 to 10 of 5,000,000,000 for " google wannabe hackers " .1 .
Some Script Kiddie2 .
Wannabe h4xx0r .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Results 1 to 10 of 5,000,000,000 for "google wannabe hackers".1.
Some Script Kiddie2.
Wannabe h4xx0r ...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31096606</id>
	<title>Re:Apology</title>
	<author>AliasMarlowe</author>
	<datestamp>1265918400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I failed to do enough research. Is there a way I can delete the parent post?</p></div><p>Join the Scientologists. Claim your post is part of their dogma. Threaten legal action.<br>
<a href="http://slashdot.org/yro/01/03/16/1256226.shtml" title="slashdot.org">http://slashdot.org/yro/01/03/16/1256226.shtml</a> [slashdot.org]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I failed to do enough research .
Is there a way I can delete the parent post ? Join the Scientologists .
Claim your post is part of their dogma .
Threaten legal action .
http : //slashdot.org/yro/01/03/16/1256226.shtml [ slashdot.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I failed to do enough research.
Is there a way I can delete the parent post?Join the Scientologists.
Claim your post is part of their dogma.
Threaten legal action.
http://slashdot.org/yro/01/03/16/1256226.shtml [slashdot.org]
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31096078</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31103160</id>
	<title>Perfect time to boost the economy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265919240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seems like a good reason to increase the defense budget for more cyber security.<br>More money spent, more jobs, and a safer America to boot!<br>Wonder who the lucky company is that will get the contracts?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seems like a good reason to increase the defense budget for more cyber security.More money spent , more jobs , and a safer America to boot ! Wonder who the lucky company is that will get the contracts ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seems like a good reason to increase the defense budget for more cyber security.More money spent, more jobs, and a safer America to boot!Wonder who the lucky company is that will get the contracts?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31096442</id>
	<title>The interesting bits...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265052360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>About 80 percent of APT attacks use custom malware, Mandia says. "We recently took over 1,800 programs we've collected since 2008 that are all part of APT<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... and ran it through AV, and only 24 percent of the malware triggered antivirus," he says. "Over a year ago, none of it was triggering AV."</p></div><p>Signature-based anti-virus scanning isn't going to help.  That model is broken and only useful for the "AOL mindset" of the general public.  That is, the people who go "ohhhh, SHINY. [click]" and get infected by year-old malware.</p><p>Serious pressure on software vendors to make sure their app doesn't need admin rights to run on a Windows box would be a nice step.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>About 80 percent of APT attacks use custom malware , Mandia says .
" We recently took over 1,800 programs we 've collected since 2008 that are all part of APT ... and ran it through AV , and only 24 percent of the malware triggered antivirus , " he says .
" Over a year ago , none of it was triggering AV .
" Signature-based anti-virus scanning is n't going to help .
That model is broken and only useful for the " AOL mindset " of the general public .
That is , the people who go " ohhhh , SHINY .
[ click ] " and get infected by year-old malware.Serious pressure on software vendors to make sure their app does n't need admin rights to run on a Windows box would be a nice step .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>About 80 percent of APT attacks use custom malware, Mandia says.
"We recently took over 1,800 programs we've collected since 2008 that are all part of APT ... and ran it through AV, and only 24 percent of the malware triggered antivirus," he says.
"Over a year ago, none of it was triggering AV.
"Signature-based anti-virus scanning isn't going to help.
That model is broken and only useful for the "AOL mindset" of the general public.
That is, the people who go "ohhhh, SHINY.
[click]" and get infected by year-old malware.Serious pressure on software vendors to make sure their app doesn't need admin rights to run on a Windows box would be a nice step.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31097236</id>
	<title>In China...</title>
	<author>gaelfx</author>
	<datestamp>1265882760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>... everyone knows who did it. It was the CaoNiMa, or the grass-mud horses as you may know them. I really hate those mother f@#$\%&amp;s.</htmltext>
<tokenext>... everyone knows who did it .
It was the CaoNiMa , or the grass-mud horses as you may know them .
I really hate those mother f @ # $ \ % &amp;s .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... everyone knows who did it.
It was the CaoNiMa, or the grass-mud horses as you may know them.
I really hate those mother f@#$\%&amp;s.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31096138</id>
	<title>wtf title?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265049120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>From TFA:<p><div class="quote"><p>Hoglund says HBGary was able to identify "markers" specific to the way the Aurora developer wrote the malware. But he says his firm did not include this in its new report. "This is not in the report because we don't want him to know what we know about his coding," he says. "[It] is algorithmic in nature."</p> </div><p>Hah riiiight. So just give out hints in the press release?
More like, "we don't want to share this information cause it's profitable."</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>From TFA : Hoglund says HBGary was able to identify " markers " specific to the way the Aurora developer wrote the malware .
But he says his firm did not include this in its new report .
" This is not in the report because we do n't want him to know what we know about his coding , " he says .
" [ It ] is algorithmic in nature .
" Hah riiiight .
So just give out hints in the press release ?
More like , " we do n't want to share this information cause it 's profitable .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From TFA:Hoglund says HBGary was able to identify "markers" specific to the way the Aurora developer wrote the malware.
But he says his firm did not include this in its new report.
"This is not in the report because we don't want him to know what we know about his coding," he says.
"[It] is algorithmic in nature.
" Hah riiiight.
So just give out hints in the press release?
More like, "we don't want to share this information cause it's profitable.
"
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31095964</id>
	<title>Would you run unknown code?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265047560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why on earth would I download and run the "inoculation" removal software from some unknown company?  It might actually be installing more crap!  Why not just give us a shell script if it's just wmi calls?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why on earth would I download and run the " inoculation " removal software from some unknown company ?
It might actually be installing more crap !
Why not just give us a shell script if it 's just wmi calls ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why on earth would I download and run the "inoculation" removal software from some unknown company?
It might actually be installing more crap!
Why not just give us a shell script if it's just wmi calls?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31096032</id>
	<title>Re:Propaganda</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265048160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <i>The US media, however, is eager to twist the story.</i> </p><p>
It would seem not, as you linked to PBS, a news outlet funded by the U.S. Government.  LOL</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The US media , however , is eager to twist the story .
It would seem not , as you linked to PBS , a news outlet funded by the U.S. Government. LOL</tokentext>
<sentencetext> The US media, however, is eager to twist the story.
It would seem not, as you linked to PBS, a news outlet funded by the U.S. Government.  LOL</sentencetext>
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--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31096388
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31096396
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31096034
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31096988
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31095998
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31096498
---http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_11_011257.31096646
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