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	<title>Linux Foundation Announces 2010 "We're Linux" Video Contest</title>
	<author>CmdrTaco</author>
	<datestamp>1265824800000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>prourl writes <i>"The Linux Foundation (LF), the nonprofit organization dedicated to accelerating the growth of Linux, today announced the <a href="http://media-newswire.com/release\_1112212.html">2010 'We're Linux' video contest</a>. The contest seeks to find the best user-generated videos that demonstrate what Linux means to those who use it and inspire others to try it."</i>  Sadly, the winner will almost certainly be edited in Final Cut Pro on a Mac ;)</htmltext>
<tokenext>prourl writes " The Linux Foundation ( LF ) , the nonprofit organization dedicated to accelerating the growth of Linux , today announced the 2010 'We 're Linux ' video contest .
The contest seeks to find the best user-generated videos that demonstrate what Linux means to those who use it and inspire others to try it .
" Sadly , the winner will almost certainly be edited in Final Cut Pro on a Mac ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>prourl writes "The Linux Foundation (LF), the nonprofit organization dedicated to accelerating the growth of Linux, today announced the 2010 'We're Linux' video contest.
The contest seeks to find the best user-generated videos that demonstrate what Linux means to those who use it and inspire others to try it.
"  Sadly, the winner will almost certainly be edited in Final Cut Pro on a Mac ;)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31088970</id>
	<title>Re:Here's a theme</title>
	<author>jedidiah</author>
	<datestamp>1265053500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Who cares? Most people don't want a bezel in the middle of their desktop. It's just not something they would be into.</p><p>So this whole idea that "multi monitor is a killer" is just PC gamer wannabe nonsense.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Who cares ?
Most people do n't want a bezel in the middle of their desktop .
It 's just not something they would be into.So this whole idea that " multi monitor is a killer " is just PC gamer wannabe nonsense .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who cares?
Most people don't want a bezel in the middle of their desktop.
It's just not something they would be into.So this whole idea that "multi monitor is a killer" is just PC gamer wannabe nonsense.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31095948</id>
	<title>Re:Final cut pro == sad</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265047440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>avi synth isn't particuarly bad</p><p>Final cut pro is the the industry leader. its the top dog in feature set and you pay out the nose to use it.</p><p>if just five people who have bought final cut pro licenses paid a developer to develop something for linux, they could fund him for a year.<br>(final cut pro licences are 5 grand each)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>avi synth is n't particuarly badFinal cut pro is the the industry leader .
its the top dog in feature set and you pay out the nose to use it.if just five people who have bought final cut pro licenses paid a developer to develop something for linux , they could fund him for a year .
( final cut pro licences are 5 grand each )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>avi synth isn't particuarly badFinal cut pro is the the industry leader.
its the top dog in feature set and you pay out the nose to use it.if just five people who have bought final cut pro licenses paid a developer to develop something for linux, they could fund him for a year.
(final cut pro licences are 5 grand each)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31088734</id>
	<title>A sunny beach, a warm breeze</title>
	<author>westyvw</author>
	<datestamp>1265052780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And a cell phone that doesn't ring. Contrast that to my "I am Windows" support team: they haven't left town yet being called back to the office to reboot machines, fix virus problems, mange servers, handle local applications.</p><p>Ah....aren't thin clients and Linux grand<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And a cell phone that does n't ring .
Contrast that to my " I am Windows " support team : they have n't left town yet being called back to the office to reboot machines , fix virus problems , mange servers , handle local applications.Ah....are n't thin clients and Linux grand : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And a cell phone that doesn't ring.
Contrast that to my "I am Windows" support team: they haven't left town yet being called back to the office to reboot machines, fix virus problems, mange servers, handle local applications.Ah....aren't thin clients and Linux grand :)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31089150</id>
	<title>Re:Here's a theme</title>
	<author>AmonTheMetalhead</author>
	<datestamp>1265054220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'll bite.<br>
I'm actually using a multi monitor setup on my Ubuntu system, don't suffer of 'driver breakage', know where to find the related documentation and have received plenty of friendly help from fellow linux users.<br>
<br>
Why, you ask?<br>
Because i'm not a douche, that's why.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'll bite .
I 'm actually using a multi monitor setup on my Ubuntu system , do n't suffer of 'driver breakage ' , know where to find the related documentation and have received plenty of friendly help from fellow linux users .
Why , you ask ?
Because i 'm not a douche , that 's why .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'll bite.
I'm actually using a multi monitor setup on my Ubuntu system, don't suffer of 'driver breakage', know where to find the related documentation and have received plenty of friendly help from fellow linux users.
Why, you ask?
Because i'm not a douche, that's why.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31088824</id>
	<title>Re:Final cut pro == sad</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265053020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not sure I'd consider them "world-class", but for most purposes <a href="http://www.kdenlive.org/" title="kdenlive.org">kdenlive</a> [kdenlive.org] is pretty good for video editing under Linux, <a href="http://www.cadsoftusa.com/" title="cadsoftusa.com">Eagle</a> [cadsoftusa.com] is a very popular PCB layout tool that runs on Linux, Windows, and Mac OS.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not sure I 'd consider them " world-class " , but for most purposes kdenlive [ kdenlive.org ] is pretty good for video editing under Linux , Eagle [ cadsoftusa.com ] is a very popular PCB layout tool that runs on Linux , Windows , and Mac OS .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not sure I'd consider them "world-class", but for most purposes kdenlive [kdenlive.org] is pretty good for video editing under Linux, Eagle [cadsoftusa.com] is a very popular PCB layout tool that runs on Linux, Windows, and Mac OS.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31092374</id>
	<title>Re:No Ogg/Theora support for videos</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265025840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is the trouble with these ``Open source'' guys: they don't care about user freedom. At all.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is the trouble with these ` ` Open source' ' guys : they do n't care about user freedom .
At all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is the trouble with these ``Open source'' guys: they don't care about user freedom.
At all.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31089130</id>
	<title>Re:Do you have to use linux</title>
	<author>aardwolf64</author>
	<datestamp>1265054040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You have to use VIM.  Sorry...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You have to use VIM .
Sorry.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You have to use VIM.
Sorry...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31088660</id>
	<title>I'll take "retarded snowclone"  for 500, Alex!</title>
	<author>Gizzmonic</author>
	<datestamp>1265052540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm a Mac<br>I'm a PC<br>I'm IBM<br>I'm a Windows<br>Got milk?</p><p>Can't we just trash all these?  Also, the annoying commercials where lots of multi-culti people finish each other's sentences.  Exactly what are you trying to say, that using your product will turn you into a hivemind?  Well, isn't that neat.</p><p>How about we get more creepy children whispering about mirrors, or babies making stock trades. Babies talking like adults is PURE ADVERTISING GENIUS.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm a MacI 'm a PCI 'm IBMI 'm a WindowsGot milk ? Ca n't we just trash all these ?
Also , the annoying commercials where lots of multi-culti people finish each other 's sentences .
Exactly what are you trying to say , that using your product will turn you into a hivemind ?
Well , is n't that neat.How about we get more creepy children whispering about mirrors , or babies making stock trades .
Babies talking like adults is PURE ADVERTISING GENIUS .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm a MacI'm a PCI'm IBMI'm a WindowsGot milk?Can't we just trash all these?
Also, the annoying commercials where lots of multi-culti people finish each other's sentences.
Exactly what are you trying to say, that using your product will turn you into a hivemind?
Well, isn't that neat.How about we get more creepy children whispering about mirrors, or babies making stock trades.
Babies talking like adults is PURE ADVERTISING GENIUS.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31094464</id>
	<title>Re:Final cut pro == sad</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265036520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>FUCK~! we do have a decent video editing tool. kino. and what is that other new fangled one? i forget. I haven't used it much yet... but it is REALLY good. as good as final cut pro. And if you are an Apple fanboy you'll think otherwise so JUST STFU. I don't care. kino worked for me... anyway even if it wasn't the best thing out there. It was a hell of a llot better than movie maker for ms windows.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>FUCK ~ !
we do have a decent video editing tool .
kino. and what is that other new fangled one ?
i forget .
I have n't used it much yet... but it is REALLY good .
as good as final cut pro .
And if you are an Apple fanboy you 'll think otherwise so JUST STFU .
I do n't care .
kino worked for me... anyway even if it was n't the best thing out there .
It was a hell of a llot better than movie maker for ms windows .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>FUCK~!
we do have a decent video editing tool.
kino. and what is that other new fangled one?
i forget.
I haven't used it much yet... but it is REALLY good.
as good as final cut pro.
And if you are an Apple fanboy you'll think otherwise so JUST STFU.
I don't care.
kino worked for me... anyway even if it wasn't the best thing out there.
It was a hell of a llot better than movie maker for ms windows.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31089536</id>
	<title>Don't know about post prod but...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265055900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Major 3D studios are shifting their entire render farms *and* editing workstations to Linux.  Linux is getting bigger and bigger everyday in the computer graphics industry.  I wouldn't be surprised if soon the very best setup to do video editing were Linux based too.</p><p>But yup, to all the haters... Apache / Linux is a failure, Android is a failure, Maemo is a failure.  Ubuntu is a failure and, no, professional aren't doing 3D under Linux but using 3DSMax on Windows.</p><p>Yeah, sure.</p><p>And now comes the -1 by the paid MS astroturfers and fanbois.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Major 3D studios are shifting their entire render farms * and * editing workstations to Linux .
Linux is getting bigger and bigger everyday in the computer graphics industry .
I would n't be surprised if soon the very best setup to do video editing were Linux based too.But yup , to all the haters... Apache / Linux is a failure , Android is a failure , Maemo is a failure .
Ubuntu is a failure and , no , professional are n't doing 3D under Linux but using 3DSMax on Windows.Yeah , sure.And now comes the -1 by the paid MS astroturfers and fanbois .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Major 3D studios are shifting their entire render farms *and* editing workstations to Linux.
Linux is getting bigger and bigger everyday in the computer graphics industry.
I wouldn't be surprised if soon the very best setup to do video editing were Linux based too.But yup, to all the haters... Apache / Linux is a failure, Android is a failure, Maemo is a failure.
Ubuntu is a failure and, no, professional aren't doing 3D under Linux but using 3DSMax on Windows.Yeah, sure.And now comes the -1 by the paid MS astroturfers and fanbois.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31091274</id>
	<title>Re:Final cut pro == sad</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265020980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's sad that Linux don't have something like this Final cut pro, but that is hardly Linux' fault.

Linux don't have much market share on the desktop because there is no big company pushing for it. Look at the servers, there is HP, IBM, Sun, Oracle, they all pushing Linux on servers. Look at the top 500 super computer or look at Hollywood.

No one is pushing Linux on the desktop, so Linux remains a niche and for a small market there are not so much incentive to write an end-user applications like video editing.

If Linux would grow market share on the desktop, it would be full of applications that you can buy, like the Final cut pro.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's sad that Linux do n't have something like this Final cut pro , but that is hardly Linux ' fault .
Linux do n't have much market share on the desktop because there is no big company pushing for it .
Look at the servers , there is HP , IBM , Sun , Oracle , they all pushing Linux on servers .
Look at the top 500 super computer or look at Hollywood .
No one is pushing Linux on the desktop , so Linux remains a niche and for a small market there are not so much incentive to write an end-user applications like video editing .
If Linux would grow market share on the desktop , it would be full of applications that you can buy , like the Final cut pro .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's sad that Linux don't have something like this Final cut pro, but that is hardly Linux' fault.
Linux don't have much market share on the desktop because there is no big company pushing for it.
Look at the servers, there is HP, IBM, Sun, Oracle, they all pushing Linux on servers.
Look at the top 500 super computer or look at Hollywood.
No one is pushing Linux on the desktop, so Linux remains a niche and for a small market there are not so much incentive to write an end-user applications like video editing.
If Linux would grow market share on the desktop, it would be full of applications that you can buy, like the Final cut pro.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31091110</id>
	<title>Re:Final cut pro == sad</title>
	<author>Dr. Evil</author>
	<datestamp>1265020560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What I find sad is that AVISynth, a fantastic scripting language for frameserving and editing video has not (successfully) been ported to Linux.  It seems like the perfect pluggable non-GUI scripted video editing environment, but it's only for Windows.

</p><p>Cinelerra could be used to create a good Linux vid, but I've never been able to do anything productive with it, and even when you do get it working, it'll crash on you worse than a Win 3.1 deployment. <a href="http://cinelerra.org/" title="cinelerra.org">http://cinelerra.org/</a> [cinelerra.org]

</p><p>This guy does an awesome job with it... but the "only one frame error" thing is the kind of incideous nightmare that makes it unusable to me:  <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jYFJw1dT18&amp;feature=fvw" title="youtube.com">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jYFJw1dT18&amp;feature=fvw</a> [youtube.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What I find sad is that AVISynth , a fantastic scripting language for frameserving and editing video has not ( successfully ) been ported to Linux .
It seems like the perfect pluggable non-GUI scripted video editing environment , but it 's only for Windows .
Cinelerra could be used to create a good Linux vid , but I 've never been able to do anything productive with it , and even when you do get it working , it 'll crash on you worse than a Win 3.1 deployment .
http : //cinelerra.org/ [ cinelerra.org ] This guy does an awesome job with it... but the " only one frame error " thing is the kind of incideous nightmare that makes it unusable to me : http : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = 3jYFJw1dT18&amp;feature = fvw [ youtube.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What I find sad is that AVISynth, a fantastic scripting language for frameserving and editing video has not (successfully) been ported to Linux.
It seems like the perfect pluggable non-GUI scripted video editing environment, but it's only for Windows.
Cinelerra could be used to create a good Linux vid, but I've never been able to do anything productive with it, and even when you do get it working, it'll crash on you worse than a Win 3.1 deployment.
http://cinelerra.org/ [cinelerra.org]

This guy does an awesome job with it... but the "only one frame error" thing is the kind of incideous nightmare that makes it unusable to me:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jYFJw1dT18&amp;feature=fvw [youtube.com]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31090596</id>
	<title>Re:Advertising Linux is the dumbest thing ever...</title>
	<author>value\_added</author>
	<datestamp>1265018400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>what's the point in it having it's own advert?</i></p><p>On PBS, Nova is sponsored by the Howard Hughes Medical Institute.  The NewsHour is funded by Chevron, Intel, BNSF Railway, Bank of America, Toyota, and Monsanto.  Other PBS offerings are underwritten by local real estate companies, investment companies, and law firms.  In each case, there is no "product" being hawked.</p><p>What, for example, does Archer Daniels Midland sell, and where can you buy it?  Dunno?  Neither do I, but I'm sure they understand why it is they're spending money on advertising (along with the benefits of doing so) better than the rest of us.</p><p>Advertise Linux?  My opinion is that it's an excellent idea.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>what 's the point in it having it 's own advert ? On PBS , Nova is sponsored by the Howard Hughes Medical Institute .
The NewsHour is funded by Chevron , Intel , BNSF Railway , Bank of America , Toyota , and Monsanto .
Other PBS offerings are underwritten by local real estate companies , investment companies , and law firms .
In each case , there is no " product " being hawked.What , for example , does Archer Daniels Midland sell , and where can you buy it ?
Dunno ? Neither do I , but I 'm sure they understand why it is they 're spending money on advertising ( along with the benefits of doing so ) better than the rest of us.Advertise Linux ?
My opinion is that it 's an excellent idea .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>what's the point in it having it's own advert?On PBS, Nova is sponsored by the Howard Hughes Medical Institute.
The NewsHour is funded by Chevron, Intel, BNSF Railway, Bank of America, Toyota, and Monsanto.
Other PBS offerings are underwritten by local real estate companies, investment companies, and law firms.
In each case, there is no "product" being hawked.What, for example, does Archer Daniels Midland sell, and where can you buy it?
Dunno?  Neither do I, but I'm sure they understand why it is they're spending money on advertising (along with the benefits of doing so) better than the rest of us.Advertise Linux?
My opinion is that it's an excellent idea.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31088602</id>
	<title>No Ogg/Theora support for videos</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265052300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Can we at least get the Linux Foundation to support Ogg/Theora as a supported format to upload videos in.  Ideally they would accept only Ogg and use HTML5 to show the videos instead of Flash..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Can we at least get the Linux Foundation to support Ogg/Theora as a supported format to upload videos in .
Ideally they would accept only Ogg and use HTML5 to show the videos instead of Flash. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can we at least get the Linux Foundation to support Ogg/Theora as a supported format to upload videos in.
Ideally they would accept only Ogg and use HTML5 to show the videos instead of Flash..</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31089128</id>
	<title>Re:"The winner" = Exactly</title>
	<author>AmonTheMetalhead</author>
	<datestamp>1265054040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They have features iMovie lacks, like multiple codec support, but yea, when it comes to actually editing the video, they could stand alot of improvement, that's where you can help, if you are so inclined</htmltext>
<tokenext>They have features iMovie lacks , like multiple codec support , but yea , when it comes to actually editing the video , they could stand alot of improvement , that 's where you can help , if you are so inclined</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They have features iMovie lacks, like multiple codec support, but yea, when it comes to actually editing the video, they could stand alot of improvement, that's where you can help, if you are so inclined</sentencetext>
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	<title>I'm joining too</title>
	<author>rokick</author>
	<datestamp>1266350700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Good news.. I now want to get my hands into the old forgotten cyberlink video creator.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Good news.. I now want to get my hands into the old forgotten cyberlink video creator .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Good news.. I now want to get my hands into the old forgotten cyberlink video creator.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31089306</id>
	<title>Advertising Linux is the dumbest thing ever...</title>
	<author>kazade84</author>
	<datestamp>1265054880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I mean, seriously? That's like advertising the keys on a keyboard, or the wheels on a car. Linux always forms part of a product, like a distribution, or a PVR or something, what's the point in it having it's own advert? Now, if they were making Ubuntu, Fedora etc. adverts then yeah that would make sense.</p><p>That said, I quite liked the winning ad, if they replaced "Linux" with "Ubuntu" or some other distribution name it would make more sense though.</p><p>P.S. Why for the love of code do I have to wait 30 seconds for my preview to come up before I submit? And now I have to wait again coz I edited.. grr..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I mean , seriously ?
That 's like advertising the keys on a keyboard , or the wheels on a car .
Linux always forms part of a product , like a distribution , or a PVR or something , what 's the point in it having it 's own advert ?
Now , if they were making Ubuntu , Fedora etc .
adverts then yeah that would make sense.That said , I quite liked the winning ad , if they replaced " Linux " with " Ubuntu " or some other distribution name it would make more sense though.P.S .
Why for the love of code do I have to wait 30 seconds for my preview to come up before I submit ?
And now I have to wait again coz I edited.. grr. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I mean, seriously?
That's like advertising the keys on a keyboard, or the wheels on a car.
Linux always forms part of a product, like a distribution, or a PVR or something, what's the point in it having it's own advert?
Now, if they were making Ubuntu, Fedora etc.
adverts then yeah that would make sense.That said, I quite liked the winning ad, if they replaced "Linux" with "Ubuntu" or some other distribution name it would make more sense though.P.S.
Why for the love of code do I have to wait 30 seconds for my preview to come up before I submit?
And now I have to wait again coz I edited.. grr..</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31098450</id>
	<title>Re:Final cut pro == sad</title>
	<author>anngd</author>
	<datestamp>1265897280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Stop being sad.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Stop being sad .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Stop being sad.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31091052</id>
	<title>+10 Flamebait</title>
	<author>Sitnalta</author>
	<datestamp>1265020260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm sorry, but when I think of a "I'm a Linux" commercial I imagine some 600lb man in a scooter making some incoherent gurgling about something as he drifts in and out of consciousness.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sorry , but when I think of a " I 'm a Linux " commercial I imagine some 600lb man in a scooter making some incoherent gurgling about something as he drifts in and out of consciousness .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sorry, but when I think of a "I'm a Linux" commercial I imagine some 600lb man in a scooter making some incoherent gurgling about something as he drifts in and out of consciousness.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31112730</id>
	<title>Re:"The winner" = Exactly</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265989020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Blender seems like a perfectly decent application on Linux for this type of thing.</p><p>http://www.blender.org/download/get-blender/ [blender.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Blender seems like a perfectly decent application on Linux for this type of thing.http : //www.blender.org/download/get-blender/ [ blender.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Blender seems like a perfectly decent application on Linux for this type of thing.http://www.blender.org/download/get-blender/ [blender.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31094760</id>
	<title>OpenShot non-Liner Video Editor</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265038560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>the fact that Linux users making a video about using Linux don't have a decent tool to edit their videos with is kind of a drag...</p></div><p>OpenShot runs in Linux and I am positive you could edit a commercial in it</p><p><a href="http://www.openshotvideo.com/" title="openshotvideo.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.openshotvideo.com/</a> [openshotvideo.com]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>the fact that Linux users making a video about using Linux do n't have a decent tool to edit their videos with is kind of a drag...OpenShot runs in Linux and I am positive you could edit a commercial in ithttp : //www.openshotvideo.com/ [ openshotvideo.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the fact that Linux users making a video about using Linux don't have a decent tool to edit their videos with is kind of a drag...OpenShot runs in Linux and I am positive you could edit a commercial in ithttp://www.openshotvideo.com/ [openshotvideo.com]
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31089540</id>
	<title>Re:Final cut pro == sad</title>
	<author>sznupi</author>
	<datestamp>1265055900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr></p><div class="quote"><p>...It's a great program that puts world class non-linear editing within reach of most everybody.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...<br>Now there is no credible non-linear video editing program for linux. Both platforms are a niche market, both excel in ways that windows does not, and both are a victim of that nitch-i-ness.</p></div><p>You seem to almost imply Windows doesn't have a world class video editor? Vegas makes more and more headway for some time...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>...It 's a great program that puts world class non-linear editing within reach of most everybody .
...Now there is no credible non-linear video editing program for linux .
Both platforms are a niche market , both excel in ways that windows does not , and both are a victim of that nitch-i-ness.You seem to almost imply Windows does n't have a world class video editor ?
Vegas makes more and more headway for some time.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> ...It's a great program that puts world class non-linear editing within reach of most everybody.
...Now there is no credible non-linear video editing program for linux.
Both platforms are a niche market, both excel in ways that windows does not, and both are a victim of that nitch-i-ness.You seem to almost imply Windows doesn't have a world class video editor?
Vegas makes more and more headway for some time...
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31089108</id>
	<title>Re:Oblig: I'm a Mac, I'm a PC, I'm Linux</title>
	<author>biryokumaru</author>
	<datestamp>1265053980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Can I just vote for this instead of some dumb video?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Can I just vote for this instead of some dumb video ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can I just vote for this instead of some dumb video?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31091614</id>
	<title>Re:Final cut pro == sad</title>
	<author>Spy der Mann</author>
	<datestamp>1265022360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If the only reason is that nobody has bothered to write a good one, then that's not sad.</p></div><p>Oh gee. Have you ever heard any programmer say "I'm bothering to write a BAD video editor"? All of them want them to be good. But most projects have failed miserably, and *THAT* is sad. There's one last project which seems promising: OpenShot video editor (which appeared on slashdot a few weeks ago). But I haven't got the time to test it yet. I wonder if it's able to do the amazing stuff that Final Cut Pro does. If it does, drop me a call so I can rejoice.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If the only reason is that nobody has bothered to write a good one , then that 's not sad.Oh gee .
Have you ever heard any programmer say " I 'm bothering to write a BAD video editor " ?
All of them want them to be good .
But most projects have failed miserably , and * THAT * is sad .
There 's one last project which seems promising : OpenShot video editor ( which appeared on slashdot a few weeks ago ) .
But I have n't got the time to test it yet .
I wonder if it 's able to do the amazing stuff that Final Cut Pro does .
If it does , drop me a call so I can rejoice .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the only reason is that nobody has bothered to write a good one, then that's not sad.Oh gee.
Have you ever heard any programmer say "I'm bothering to write a BAD video editor"?
All of them want them to be good.
But most projects have failed miserably, and *THAT* is sad.
There's one last project which seems promising: OpenShot video editor (which appeared on slashdot a few weeks ago).
But I haven't got the time to test it yet.
I wonder if it's able to do the amazing stuff that Final Cut Pro does.
If it does, drop me a call so I can rejoice.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31088658</id>
	<title>Re:In other news,</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265052540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why are the trolls so obsessed with some guy's penis?<br> <br>
Things were so much better when I was a troll let me tell you.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why are the trolls so obsessed with some guy 's penis ?
Things were so much better when I was a troll let me tell you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why are the trolls so obsessed with some guy's penis?
Things were so much better when I was a troll let me tell you.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31089796</id>
	<title>My Linux</title>
	<author>fyoder</author>
	<datestamp>1265057040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My vid would show a blank desktop, with apps opening as I stabbed at the keyboard (custom keyboard shortcuts for my most used apps), or for less used apps, using the keyboard to bring up the run dialogue or the keyboard shortcut for the terminal.</p><p>Perhaps one shot of revealing the hidden taskbar by moving the mouse to the edge of the screen.  It would show logging in to remote servers using ssh on the command line, transferring files with scp, and using the multimodal vim editor to edit code and configuration files.</p><p>I think "my" Linux would scare most Windows users.  If this is a Linux advocacy thing, maybe I should refrain from making a vid.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My vid would show a blank desktop , with apps opening as I stabbed at the keyboard ( custom keyboard shortcuts for my most used apps ) , or for less used apps , using the keyboard to bring up the run dialogue or the keyboard shortcut for the terminal.Perhaps one shot of revealing the hidden taskbar by moving the mouse to the edge of the screen .
It would show logging in to remote servers using ssh on the command line , transferring files with scp , and using the multimodal vim editor to edit code and configuration files.I think " my " Linux would scare most Windows users .
If this is a Linux advocacy thing , maybe I should refrain from making a vid .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My vid would show a blank desktop, with apps opening as I stabbed at the keyboard (custom keyboard shortcuts for my most used apps), or for less used apps, using the keyboard to bring up the run dialogue or the keyboard shortcut for the terminal.Perhaps one shot of revealing the hidden taskbar by moving the mouse to the edge of the screen.
It would show logging in to remote servers using ssh on the command line, transferring files with scp, and using the multimodal vim editor to edit code and configuration files.I think "my" Linux would scare most Windows users.
If this is a Linux advocacy thing, maybe I should refrain from making a vid.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31092540</id>
	<title>Final Cut?</title>
	<author>tirnacopu</author>
	<datestamp>1265027040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Sadly, the winner will almost certainly be edited in Final Cut Pro on a Mac<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></div><p>
Why not <a href="http://cinelerra.org/" title="cinelerra.org" rel="nofollow">Cinellera</a> [cinelerra.org] on Linux?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sadly , the winner will almost certainly be edited in Final Cut Pro on a Mac ; ) Why not Cinellera [ cinelerra.org ] on Linux ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sadly, the winner will almost certainly be edited in Final Cut Pro on a Mac ;)
Why not Cinellera [cinelerra.org] on Linux?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31090950</id>
	<title>Obligitory response...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265019840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Sadly, the winner will almost certainly be edited in Final Cut Pro on a Mac<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></div><p>I'll "edit" you with a final cut mister Mac!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sadly , the winner will almost certainly be edited in Final Cut Pro on a Mac ; ) I 'll " edit " you with a final cut mister Mac !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sadly, the winner will almost certainly be edited in Final Cut Pro on a Mac ;)I'll "edit" you with a final cut mister Mac!
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31092308</id>
	<title>Re:No Ogg/Theora support for videos</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265025300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have sent them an e-mail requesting that they use an open, patent-free and royalty free format such as Ogg Theora or Dirac. If you care about the same then please let them know:</p><p><a href="http://www.linuxfoundation.org/about/contact" title="linuxfoundation.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.linuxfoundation.org/about/contact</a> [linuxfoundation.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have sent them an e-mail requesting that they use an open , patent-free and royalty free format such as Ogg Theora or Dirac .
If you care about the same then please let them know : http : //www.linuxfoundation.org/about/contact [ linuxfoundation.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have sent them an e-mail requesting that they use an open, patent-free and royalty free format such as Ogg Theora or Dirac.
If you care about the same then please let them know:http://www.linuxfoundation.org/about/contact [linuxfoundation.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31088414</id>
	<title>Another OS copy job by Linux</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265051580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seriously, can't these Linux guys ever come up with an original idea?  First Apple comes out with "I'm a Mac... and I'm a PC" ads.  Then Windows comes out with it's "I'm Windows" campaign.  Not satisfied with copying the entire GUI for XP, Vista, OS X, and Windows 7, now Linux nerds are even copying the advertisements?  How about some freaking originality once in a while?  Where's all this creativity that the community is supposed to engender?  So many eyeballs, but the only thing those eyeballs can do is Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously , ca n't these Linux guys ever come up with an original idea ?
First Apple comes out with " I 'm a Mac... and I 'm a PC " ads .
Then Windows comes out with it 's " I 'm Windows " campaign .
Not satisfied with copying the entire GUI for XP , Vista , OS X , and Windows 7 , now Linux nerds are even copying the advertisements ?
How about some freaking originality once in a while ?
Where 's all this creativity that the community is supposed to engender ?
So many eyeballs , but the only thing those eyeballs can do is Ctrl + C , Ctrl + V .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously, can't these Linux guys ever come up with an original idea?
First Apple comes out with "I'm a Mac... and I'm a PC" ads.
Then Windows comes out with it's "I'm Windows" campaign.
Not satisfied with copying the entire GUI for XP, Vista, OS X, and Windows 7, now Linux nerds are even copying the advertisements?
How about some freaking originality once in a while?
Where's all this creativity that the community is supposed to engender?
So many eyeballs, but the only thing those eyeballs can do is Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31090390</id>
	<title>Re:Advertising Linux is the dumbest thing ever...</title>
	<author>Tetsujin</author>
	<datestamp>1265017440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I mean, seriously? That's like advertising the keys on a keyboard, or the wheels on a car.</p></div><p>Goodyear does not approve of your analogy!  Gary Numan, on the other hand, finds it satisfactory.</p><p>Some apparently stupid things are advertised from time to time.  For instance, dairy.  "Got Milk?"...  "Behold the power of cheese..."  These aren't ads for a <em>specific</em> brand and type of dairy product, these are ads for the <em>whole industry</em>.  So what's the point?  If the public is convinced that dairy is good for you (even if some bit of current research pops up that makes people wary of it), they'll continue to buy and consume it, and everyone in the business will benefit.</p><p>I think this Linux ad thing is more of a just-for-fun type of deal, honestly - but to go back to the question, why advertise Linux - it's because to those who make products which incorporate Linux, the public's perception of Linux is very important.  If people are convinced that Linux is hard to use, badly documented, unreliable, etc. and hear that Android or Tivo use Linux, then maybe they won't want to use Android or Tivo...  Or maybe they'd choose not to use Linux for their server, or whatever.  People, whether they're "educated" or not, "smart" or not, whether or not they're involved in a business decision, are susceptible to advertising.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I mean , seriously ?
That 's like advertising the keys on a keyboard , or the wheels on a car.Goodyear does not approve of your analogy !
Gary Numan , on the other hand , finds it satisfactory.Some apparently stupid things are advertised from time to time .
For instance , dairy .
" Got Milk ? " .. .
" Behold the power of cheese... " These are n't ads for a specific brand and type of dairy product , these are ads for the whole industry .
So what 's the point ?
If the public is convinced that dairy is good for you ( even if some bit of current research pops up that makes people wary of it ) , they 'll continue to buy and consume it , and everyone in the business will benefit.I think this Linux ad thing is more of a just-for-fun type of deal , honestly - but to go back to the question , why advertise Linux - it 's because to those who make products which incorporate Linux , the public 's perception of Linux is very important .
If people are convinced that Linux is hard to use , badly documented , unreliable , etc .
and hear that Android or Tivo use Linux , then maybe they wo n't want to use Android or Tivo... Or maybe they 'd choose not to use Linux for their server , or whatever .
People , whether they 're " educated " or not , " smart " or not , whether or not they 're involved in a business decision , are susceptible to advertising .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I mean, seriously?
That's like advertising the keys on a keyboard, or the wheels on a car.Goodyear does not approve of your analogy!
Gary Numan, on the other hand, finds it satisfactory.Some apparently stupid things are advertised from time to time.
For instance, dairy.
"Got Milk?"...
"Behold the power of cheese..."  These aren't ads for a specific brand and type of dairy product, these are ads for the whole industry.
So what's the point?
If the public is convinced that dairy is good for you (even if some bit of current research pops up that makes people wary of it), they'll continue to buy and consume it, and everyone in the business will benefit.I think this Linux ad thing is more of a just-for-fun type of deal, honestly - but to go back to the question, why advertise Linux - it's because to those who make products which incorporate Linux, the public's perception of Linux is very important.
If people are convinced that Linux is hard to use, badly documented, unreliable, etc.
and hear that Android or Tivo use Linux, then maybe they won't want to use Android or Tivo...  Or maybe they'd choose not to use Linux for their server, or whatever.
People, whether they're "educated" or not, "smart" or not, whether or not they're involved in a business decision, are susceptible to advertising.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31094680</id>
	<title>Re:Advertising Linux is the dumbest thing ever...</title>
	<author>h4rr4r</author>
	<datestamp>1265038020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you had a good keyboard you would, the keys in my IBM type M use folding spring much better than that spongy membrane crap everyone else uses these days.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you had a good keyboard you would , the keys in my IBM type M use folding spring much better than that spongy membrane crap everyone else uses these days .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you had a good keyboard you would, the keys in my IBM type M use folding spring much better than that spongy membrane crap everyone else uses these days.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31089740</id>
	<title>Re:"I'm a PC...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265056800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Linux is obtuse? "dull, blunt, dense, slow-witted"?</p><p>Do you mean that the average user is too obtuse for Linux? I think that might be more true, in addition to them being too set in their ways.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Linux is obtuse ?
" dull , blunt , dense , slow-witted " ? Do you mean that the average user is too obtuse for Linux ?
I think that might be more true , in addition to them being too set in their ways .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Linux is obtuse?
"dull, blunt, dense, slow-witted"?Do you mean that the average user is too obtuse for Linux?
I think that might be more true, in addition to them being too set in their ways.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31091702</id>
	<title>Re:"I'm a PC...</title>
	<author>shutdown -p now</author>
	<datestamp>1265022720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>And I chose Windows because Linux is still too obtuse for the average user."</p></div><p>You've got that wrong.</p><p>"I'm a PC. Er... what's an OS?"</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>And I chose Windows because Linux is still too obtuse for the average user .
" You 've got that wrong .
" I 'm a PC .
Er... what 's an OS ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And I chose Windows because Linux is still too obtuse for the average user.
"You've got that wrong.
"I'm a PC.
Er... what's an OS?
"
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31090918</id>
	<title>Re:Final cut pro == sad</title>
	<author>Demonoid-Penguin</author>
	<datestamp>1265019720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Video editing? Linux? Ha! That'll be the day when Linux gets used for film production!<p>Go Windows! Ra!</p><p>Go Industrial Light and Magic!</p><p>Go Blender</p><p>Go<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/.</p><p>Go Crash Bang</p><p>;-p</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Video editing ?
Linux ? Ha !
That 'll be the day when Linux gets used for film production ! Go Windows !
Ra ! Go Industrial Light and Magic ! Go BlenderGo /.Go Crash Bang ; -p</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Video editing?
Linux? Ha!
That'll be the day when Linux gets used for film production!Go Windows!
Ra!Go Industrial Light and Magic!Go BlenderGo /.Go Crash Bang;-p</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31089072</id>
	<title>Re:Here's a theme</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265053800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>No multi-monitor support. Kernel updates that break drivers. Poor if any documentation. A "community" that trips over itself to insult you when you "dare" ask for help. Yep, we're linux!</i></p><p>Funny, that sounds like windows, except for the multi-monitor support (Linux's xinerama works better than XP) and the "community" where you can buy friends to help you out when internet trolls insult you (which they'll do to people asking online for windows help too).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No multi-monitor support .
Kernel updates that break drivers .
Poor if any documentation .
A " community " that trips over itself to insult you when you " dare " ask for help .
Yep , we 're linux ! Funny , that sounds like windows , except for the multi-monitor support ( Linux 's xinerama works better than XP ) and the " community " where you can buy friends to help you out when internet trolls insult you ( which they 'll do to people asking online for windows help too ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No multi-monitor support.
Kernel updates that break drivers.
Poor if any documentation.
A "community" that trips over itself to insult you when you "dare" ask for help.
Yep, we're linux!Funny, that sounds like windows, except for the multi-monitor support (Linux's xinerama works better than XP) and the "community" where you can buy friends to help you out when internet trolls insult you (which they'll do to people asking online for windows help too).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31089898</id>
	<title>What Linux Film Would Be Complete Without...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265057580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>This project can not be considered complete unless it contains footage of Richard Stallman wearing a hard-drive platter as a halo, holding a conucopia and his GPL sheild.  Bonus points if he is heard correcting someone on terminology during the video.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This project can not be considered complete unless it contains footage of Richard Stallman wearing a hard-drive platter as a halo , holding a conucopia and his GPL sheild .
Bonus points if he is heard correcting someone on terminology during the video .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This project can not be considered complete unless it contains footage of Richard Stallman wearing a hard-drive platter as a halo, holding a conucopia and his GPL sheild.
Bonus points if he is heard correcting someone on terminology during the video.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31093322</id>
	<title>Re:Here's a theme</title>
	<author>drinkypoo</author>
	<datestamp>1265031180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>IINM Linux has had support for multiple monitors for quite some time; Windows took a while to catch up.</p></div><p>Windows has had working multi-monitor support for a very long time. Windows 95 did OK, and Windows 98 did very well. NT4 would do it, but Windows 2000 did it quite well. Meanwhile it's still a pretty sad joke on Linux, because X has practically no concept of multiple displays. Most fullscreen software in particular breaks when you try to use it on Linux. It usually just fails to start, but sometimes it will just demonstrate some seriously wacky behavior. Even when using nVidia's binary driver it's a crap shoot.</p><p>I actually had two 22" LCDs on my Linux system until I found that it just caused too many problems. For example, if the second monitor is disconnected, X fails to start because a working configuration cannot be found for all screens. And if you have only one screen configured at boot, you'll have to restart X before you can use the second one. Windows XP does not have either of these problems.</p><p>You are very much mistaken about the state of multiple monitor support on Linux.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>The first automatic update that hit XP when I first got it replaced my perfectly good network driver with one that didn't work at all.</p></div><p>I don't believe you. Hardware updates are optional.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Poor documentation??? That's my #1 complaint about Microsoft; their docs are TERRIBLE unless you buy a third party book.</p></div><p>Nine times out of ten the answers to my questions about the OS are found in the MSKB.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>If I hit F1 more often than not if I actually find what I'm looking for it directs me to a nonexistant menu item.</p></div><p>If you load a help option in a Linux program, more often than not it launches your web browser and takes you to a site with some documentation with chapters listed in the ToC but whose contents are "This chapter has not been written yet." Most of the time any actually included online help is inadequate at best, and typically refers to a prior version of the program. This is one of my biggest frustrations with Linux. My main computer and both of the netbooks I regularly use run Linux. Occasionally I fall back to the one netbook still running XP for something that just can't be done on Linux, though.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>When I've looked for Linux help I never ran across insults, maybe you're being arrogant and insulting the community while asking for help</p></div><p>I find that most of the insulting replies are to questions like "how do I do this thing I can easily do on Windows, this is how I do it there." Then people say things like "why don't you go back to windows you ignorant fuck, RTFM next time." Often if you scroll down far enough you find a useful answer. But I think that more often than not you can get a polite but useless answer on Ubuntu forums.</p></div>
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<tokenext>IINM Linux has had support for multiple monitors for quite some time ; Windows took a while to catch up.Windows has had working multi-monitor support for a very long time .
Windows 95 did OK , and Windows 98 did very well .
NT4 would do it , but Windows 2000 did it quite well .
Meanwhile it 's still a pretty sad joke on Linux , because X has practically no concept of multiple displays .
Most fullscreen software in particular breaks when you try to use it on Linux .
It usually just fails to start , but sometimes it will just demonstrate some seriously wacky behavior .
Even when using nVidia 's binary driver it 's a crap shoot.I actually had two 22 " LCDs on my Linux system until I found that it just caused too many problems .
For example , if the second monitor is disconnected , X fails to start because a working configuration can not be found for all screens .
And if you have only one screen configured at boot , you 'll have to restart X before you can use the second one .
Windows XP does not have either of these problems.You are very much mistaken about the state of multiple monitor support on Linux.The first automatic update that hit XP when I first got it replaced my perfectly good network driver with one that did n't work at all.I do n't believe you .
Hardware updates are optional.Poor documentation ? ? ?
That 's my # 1 complaint about Microsoft ; their docs are TERRIBLE unless you buy a third party book.Nine times out of ten the answers to my questions about the OS are found in the MSKB.If I hit F1 more often than not if I actually find what I 'm looking for it directs me to a nonexistant menu item.If you load a help option in a Linux program , more often than not it launches your web browser and takes you to a site with some documentation with chapters listed in the ToC but whose contents are " This chapter has not been written yet .
" Most of the time any actually included online help is inadequate at best , and typically refers to a prior version of the program .
This is one of my biggest frustrations with Linux .
My main computer and both of the netbooks I regularly use run Linux .
Occasionally I fall back to the one netbook still running XP for something that just ca n't be done on Linux , though.When I 've looked for Linux help I never ran across insults , maybe you 're being arrogant and insulting the community while asking for helpI find that most of the insulting replies are to questions like " how do I do this thing I can easily do on Windows , this is how I do it there .
" Then people say things like " why do n't you go back to windows you ignorant fuck , RTFM next time .
" Often if you scroll down far enough you find a useful answer .
But I think that more often than not you can get a polite but useless answer on Ubuntu forums .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>IINM Linux has had support for multiple monitors for quite some time; Windows took a while to catch up.Windows has had working multi-monitor support for a very long time.
Windows 95 did OK, and Windows 98 did very well.
NT4 would do it, but Windows 2000 did it quite well.
Meanwhile it's still a pretty sad joke on Linux, because X has practically no concept of multiple displays.
Most fullscreen software in particular breaks when you try to use it on Linux.
It usually just fails to start, but sometimes it will just demonstrate some seriously wacky behavior.
Even when using nVidia's binary driver it's a crap shoot.I actually had two 22" LCDs on my Linux system until I found that it just caused too many problems.
For example, if the second monitor is disconnected, X fails to start because a working configuration cannot be found for all screens.
And if you have only one screen configured at boot, you'll have to restart X before you can use the second one.
Windows XP does not have either of these problems.You are very much mistaken about the state of multiple monitor support on Linux.The first automatic update that hit XP when I first got it replaced my perfectly good network driver with one that didn't work at all.I don't believe you.
Hardware updates are optional.Poor documentation???
That's my #1 complaint about Microsoft; their docs are TERRIBLE unless you buy a third party book.Nine times out of ten the answers to my questions about the OS are found in the MSKB.If I hit F1 more often than not if I actually find what I'm looking for it directs me to a nonexistant menu item.If you load a help option in a Linux program, more often than not it launches your web browser and takes you to a site with some documentation with chapters listed in the ToC but whose contents are "This chapter has not been written yet.
" Most of the time any actually included online help is inadequate at best, and typically refers to a prior version of the program.
This is one of my biggest frustrations with Linux.
My main computer and both of the netbooks I regularly use run Linux.
Occasionally I fall back to the one netbook still running XP for something that just can't be done on Linux, though.When I've looked for Linux help I never ran across insults, maybe you're being arrogant and insulting the community while asking for helpI find that most of the insulting replies are to questions like "how do I do this thing I can easily do on Windows, this is how I do it there.
" Then people say things like "why don't you go back to windows you ignorant fuck, RTFM next time.
" Often if you scroll down far enough you find a useful answer.
But I think that more often than not you can get a polite but useless answer on Ubuntu forums.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31098106</id>
	<title>Re:These guys really want to be an example?</title>
	<author>frenchbedroom</author>
	<datestamp>1265893440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>[...] What is this carp?? [...]</p></div><p>Yeah, I too wonder where they fished that from.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>[ ... ] What is this carp ? ?
[ ... ] Yeah , I too wonder where they fished that from .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>[...] What is this carp??
[...]Yeah, I too wonder where they fished that from.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31090128</id>
	<title>Re:"I'm a troll..."</title>
	<author>Tetsujin</author>
	<datestamp>1265015760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>And I chose Windows because Linux is still too obtuse for the average user."</p><p>Wake me up when it's actually the Year of the Linux Desktop. These false alarms are getting old.</p></div><p>It could be that the "Linux Platform" (i.e. what you get from a "Linux Distribution" as opposed to, say, something like Android) will <em>always</em> be too obtuse for you.  Honestly, I'm fine with that.  I'm more interested in it being a good system for <em>me</em> as opposed to a good system for <em>you</em>.  I am interested in the technical aspects of computing for their own sake, and I'm interested in participating in the future direction of the platform.  I am interested in making Linux a better computing platform - but the direction I want to see it go <em>is not necessarily the one that would suit you</em>.</p><p>It may be that I've missed something but I haven't really seen anybody claiming, "OK, casual users, Linux is finally ready for you!"  - Rather, I've just been seeing guys like you dragging out the tired old "Year of the Linux Desktop" line ad nauseum to remind everyone that no one has <em>quite</em> bent Linux <em>entirely</em> to your specifications yet...  So where's the "false alarm" here?</p></div>
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<tokenext>And I chose Windows because Linux is still too obtuse for the average user .
" Wake me up when it 's actually the Year of the Linux Desktop .
These false alarms are getting old.It could be that the " Linux Platform " ( i.e .
what you get from a " Linux Distribution " as opposed to , say , something like Android ) will always be too obtuse for you .
Honestly , I 'm fine with that .
I 'm more interested in it being a good system for me as opposed to a good system for you .
I am interested in the technical aspects of computing for their own sake , and I 'm interested in participating in the future direction of the platform .
I am interested in making Linux a better computing platform - but the direction I want to see it go is not necessarily the one that would suit you.It may be that I 've missed something but I have n't really seen anybody claiming , " OK , casual users , Linux is finally ready for you !
" - Rather , I 've just been seeing guys like you dragging out the tired old " Year of the Linux Desktop " line ad nauseum to remind everyone that no one has quite bent Linux entirely to your specifications yet... So where 's the " false alarm " here ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And I chose Windows because Linux is still too obtuse for the average user.
"Wake me up when it's actually the Year of the Linux Desktop.
These false alarms are getting old.It could be that the "Linux Platform" (i.e.
what you get from a "Linux Distribution" as opposed to, say, something like Android) will always be too obtuse for you.
Honestly, I'm fine with that.
I'm more interested in it being a good system for me as opposed to a good system for you.
I am interested in the technical aspects of computing for their own sake, and I'm interested in participating in the future direction of the platform.
I am interested in making Linux a better computing platform - but the direction I want to see it go is not necessarily the one that would suit you.It may be that I've missed something but I haven't really seen anybody claiming, "OK, casual users, Linux is finally ready for you!
"  - Rather, I've just been seeing guys like you dragging out the tired old "Year of the Linux Desktop" line ad nauseum to remind everyone that no one has quite bent Linux entirely to your specifications yet...  So where's the "false alarm" here?
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31092316</id>
	<title>Re:Final cut pro == sad</title>
	<author>infolation</author>
	<datestamp>1265025420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Linux certainly does have a decent video editing solution: <a href="http://www.autodesk.co.uk/adsk/servlet/index?siteID=452932&amp;id=12769744" title="autodesk.co.uk">Autodesk Smoke</a> [autodesk.co.uk] running on Red Hat or CentOS.<br> <br>

Although most non-post production people have probably never heard of this software, in the industry it's considered far superior to Final Cut for short-form work, and the equal of Avid's high-end DS Nitris solution.<br> <br>

At between $50,000 to $100,000 for a turnkey workstation, Smoke isn't in the same price league as Final Cut, but Autodesk chose Linux precisely *because* Smoke is a high-end solution. Final Cut is still only a 32-bit application mainly due to the limitations of 32-bit quicktime. Smoke has been 64-bit for years.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Linux certainly does have a decent video editing solution : Autodesk Smoke [ autodesk.co.uk ] running on Red Hat or CentOS .
Although most non-post production people have probably never heard of this software , in the industry it 's considered far superior to Final Cut for short-form work , and the equal of Avid 's high-end DS Nitris solution .
At between $ 50,000 to $ 100,000 for a turnkey workstation , Smoke is n't in the same price league as Final Cut , but Autodesk chose Linux precisely * because * Smoke is a high-end solution .
Final Cut is still only a 32-bit application mainly due to the limitations of 32-bit quicktime .
Smoke has been 64-bit for years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Linux certainly does have a decent video editing solution: Autodesk Smoke [autodesk.co.uk] running on Red Hat or CentOS.
Although most non-post production people have probably never heard of this software, in the industry it's considered far superior to Final Cut for short-form work, and the equal of Avid's high-end DS Nitris solution.
At between $50,000 to $100,000 for a turnkey workstation, Smoke isn't in the same price league as Final Cut, but Autodesk chose Linux precisely *because* Smoke is a high-end solution.
Final Cut is still only a 32-bit application mainly due to the limitations of 32-bit quicktime.
Smoke has been 64-bit for years.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31088260</id>
	<title>Smashing my keyboard!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265050980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>My video would be one showing me frustrated, angry, swearing a lot, and ultimately smashing my keyboard (last time I tried Ubuntu on a generic PC).  It would end with me saying "fuck it" and installing Windows XP again.  I doubt that would win.</htmltext>
<tokenext>My video would be one showing me frustrated , angry , swearing a lot , and ultimately smashing my keyboard ( last time I tried Ubuntu on a generic PC ) .
It would end with me saying " fuck it " and installing Windows XP again .
I doubt that would win .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My video would be one showing me frustrated, angry, swearing a lot, and ultimately smashing my keyboard (last time I tried Ubuntu on a generic PC).
It would end with me saying "fuck it" and installing Windows XP again.
I doubt that would win.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31089588</id>
	<title>..."sadly, it will be edited on Final Cut Pro..."</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265056140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>what's wrong with using the right tool for the job? This cuts right to the heart of the Linux issue doesn't it? The software and platform just isn't there to do what many in the consumer base need it to do. It's still a niche offering, albeit a growing one, but Linux just isn't there yet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>what 's wrong with using the right tool for the job ?
This cuts right to the heart of the Linux issue does n't it ?
The software and platform just is n't there to do what many in the consumer base need it to do .
It 's still a niche offering , albeit a growing one , but Linux just is n't there yet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>what's wrong with using the right tool for the job?
This cuts right to the heart of the Linux issue doesn't it?
The software and platform just isn't there to do what many in the consumer base need it to do.
It's still a niche offering, albeit a growing one, but Linux just isn't there yet.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31089976</id>
	<title>IBM Commercial</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265014860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Can we please have more <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwL0G9wK8j4" title="youtube.com">IMB-like ethereal commercials</a> [youtube.com] showcasing how Linux is growing and is ultimately unstoppable because it represents the collective knowledge of the world?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Can we please have more IMB-like ethereal commercials [ youtube.com ] showcasing how Linux is growing and is ultimately unstoppable because it represents the collective knowledge of the world ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can we please have more IMB-like ethereal commercials [youtube.com] showcasing how Linux is growing and is ultimately unstoppable because it represents the collective knowledge of the world?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31089812</id>
	<title>I'm Linux...</title>
	<author>Zoolander</author>
	<datestamp>1265057100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>and so can you!</htmltext>
<tokenext>and so can you !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and so can you!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31088728</id>
	<title>Implying Macs are better?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265052780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Sadly, the winner will almost certainly be edited in Final Cut Pro on a Mac<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></div><p>No, I think Cmdr. Taco uses a Mac himself and is being silly. There's not just Cinelerra and a bunch of other tools, but this year we have the easiest and completely implemented OpenShot Video Editor. That combined with Avidemux, Audacity, Ardour and all of those music and audio tools should be more then enough to empower anyone creative enough to create a good video. Now if Cmdr. Taco would've mentioned Adobe Premiere (which I've been told has "motion fonts" among other cool effects), I might agree. Because although it \_could\_ be done with perhaps Blender and CinePaint, it would be much more difficult.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sadly , the winner will almost certainly be edited in Final Cut Pro on a Mac ; ) No , I think Cmdr .
Taco uses a Mac himself and is being silly .
There 's not just Cinelerra and a bunch of other tools , but this year we have the easiest and completely implemented OpenShot Video Editor .
That combined with Avidemux , Audacity , Ardour and all of those music and audio tools should be more then enough to empower anyone creative enough to create a good video .
Now if Cmdr .
Taco would 've mentioned Adobe Premiere ( which I 've been told has " motion fonts " among other cool effects ) , I might agree .
Because although it \ _could \ _ be done with perhaps Blender and CinePaint , it would be much more difficult .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sadly, the winner will almost certainly be edited in Final Cut Pro on a Mac ;)No, I think Cmdr.
Taco uses a Mac himself and is being silly.
There's not just Cinelerra and a bunch of other tools, but this year we have the easiest and completely implemented OpenShot Video Editor.
That combined with Avidemux, Audacity, Ardour and all of those music and audio tools should be more then enough to empower anyone creative enough to create a good video.
Now if Cmdr.
Taco would've mentioned Adobe Premiere (which I've been told has "motion fonts" among other cool effects), I might agree.
Because although it \_could\_ be done with perhaps Blender and CinePaint, it would be much more difficult.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31089602</id>
	<title>Re:Advertising Linux is the dumbest thing ever...</title>
	<author>neumayr</author>
	<datestamp>1265056200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Oh c'mon. While you're technically correct in saying Linux is "just the kernel", it's a distinction that doesn't help the discussion. Your just being pedantic.<br>
Get a life<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-P</htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh c'mon .
While you 're technically correct in saying Linux is " just the kernel " , it 's a distinction that does n't help the discussion .
Your just being pedantic .
Get a life ; -P</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh c'mon.
While you're technically correct in saying Linux is "just the kernel", it's a distinction that doesn't help the discussion.
Your just being pedantic.
Get a life ;-P</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31089044</id>
	<title>Were Linux, and we do what we want!</title>
	<author>goffster</author>
	<datestamp>1265053740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>with apologies to the "Red Riding Quartet"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>with apologies to the " Red Riding Quartet "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>with apologies to the "Red Riding Quartet"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31091130</id>
	<title>lol</title>
	<author>Xupa</author>
	<datestamp>1265020620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>This didn't fail hard enough the last time they did it, I suppose.
Get ready for some more generic feel-good meaninglessness.

WKA!</htmltext>
<tokenext>This did n't fail hard enough the last time they did it , I suppose .
Get ready for some more generic feel-good meaninglessness .
WKA !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This didn't fail hard enough the last time they did it, I suppose.
Get ready for some more generic feel-good meaninglessness.
WKA!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31088914</id>
	<title>Re:"The winner" = Exactly</title>
	<author>horza</author>
	<datestamp>1265053320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've heard OpenShot being described as "iMovie for Linux", it would be nice to hear some objective comparisons on here.</p><p>Phillipo.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've heard OpenShot being described as " iMovie for Linux " , it would be nice to hear some objective comparisons on here.Phillipo .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've heard OpenShot being described as "iMovie for Linux", it would be nice to hear some objective comparisons on here.Phillipo.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31089792</id>
	<title>Re:Final cut pro == sad</title>
	<author>sznupi</author>
	<datestamp>1265056980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Reasons why you shouldn't be recommending FCE or iMovie...</p><p><a href="http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2009/04/11/stay-the-fuck-away-from-imoviefce/" title="gnomefiles.org">http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2009/04/11/stay-the-fuck-away-from-imoviefce/</a> [gnomefiles.org] [gnomefiles.org]<br><a href="http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2009/10/16/regarding-apples-iframe-spec/" title="gnomefiles.org">http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2009/10/16/regarding-apples-iframe-spec/</a> [gnomefiles.org] [gnomefiles.org]<br><a href="http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2007/08/09/imovie-08-sucks/" title="gnomefiles.org">http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2007/08/09/imovie-08-sucks/</a> [gnomefiles.org]</p><p>Sony Vegas Platinum is $85, offers more than FCE, while managing to be actually technically competent.<br>Sony Vegas Pro - less than $500 for a software in the ballpark of FCP.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Reasons why you should n't be recommending FCE or iMovie...http : //eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2009/04/11/stay-the-fuck-away-from-imoviefce/ [ gnomefiles.org ] [ gnomefiles.org ] http : //eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2009/10/16/regarding-apples-iframe-spec/ [ gnomefiles.org ] [ gnomefiles.org ] http : //eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2007/08/09/imovie-08-sucks/ [ gnomefiles.org ] Sony Vegas Platinum is $ 85 , offers more than FCE , while managing to be actually technically competent.Sony Vegas Pro - less than $ 500 for a software in the ballpark of FCP .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Reasons why you shouldn't be recommending FCE or iMovie...http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2009/04/11/stay-the-fuck-away-from-imoviefce/ [gnomefiles.org] [gnomefiles.org]http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2009/10/16/regarding-apples-iframe-spec/ [gnomefiles.org] [gnomefiles.org]http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2007/08/09/imovie-08-sucks/ [gnomefiles.org]Sony Vegas Platinum is $85, offers more than FCE, while managing to be actually technically competent.Sony Vegas Pro - less than $500 for a software in the ballpark of FCP.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31089920</id>
	<title>Re:Final cut pro == sad</title>
	<author>CannonballHead</author>
	<datestamp>1265057700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Isn't Maya on Mac?  I thought Maya did 3D modeling... I know it does animation... (I don't personally use it, my brother does.)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is n't Maya on Mac ?
I thought Maya did 3D modeling... I know it does animation... ( I do n't personally use it , my brother does .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Isn't Maya on Mac?
I thought Maya did 3D modeling... I know it does animation... (I don't personally use it, my brother does.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31089466</id>
	<title>Are they /.'ed?</title>
	<author>CherniyVolk</author>
	<datestamp>1265055540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I was only able to see one video on the site hosting the contest results.  I actually had to google search the winner, and watch a copy from Viddler.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I was only able to see one video on the site hosting the contest results .
I actually had to google search the winner , and watch a copy from Viddler .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was only able to see one video on the site hosting the contest results.
I actually had to google search the winner, and watch a copy from Viddler.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31090592</id>
	<title>That book</title>
	<author>SnarfQuest</author>
	<datestamp>1265018340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>you know, at least half of the videos are going to end with a Rod Serling like quote</p><p>"That book, how to serve the Linux Community, it's a cookbook!"</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>you know , at least half of the videos are going to end with a Rod Serling like quote " That book , how to serve the Linux Community , it 's a cookbook !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>you know, at least half of the videos are going to end with a Rod Serling like quote"That book, how to serve the Linux Community, it's a cookbook!
"
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31095412</id>
	<title>Re:These guys really want to be an example?</title>
	<author>westlake</author>
	<datestamp>1265043420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>You people should try to make some accessibility example for OSS folks if you want to be taken seriously. What is this carp??</i> </p><p>The FOSS folks aren't the target audience. The target audience is the guy who runs Windows. The guy who uses Flash to play the videos on YouTube. The guy who is watching hardware accelerated HD H.264 video in his Flash 10 Beta 2 player.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You people should try to make some accessibility example for OSS folks if you want to be taken seriously .
What is this carp ? ?
The FOSS folks are n't the target audience .
The target audience is the guy who runs Windows .
The guy who uses Flash to play the videos on YouTube .
The guy who is watching hardware accelerated HD H.264 video in his Flash 10 Beta 2 player .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You people should try to make some accessibility example for OSS folks if you want to be taken seriously.
What is this carp??
The FOSS folks aren't the target audience.
The target audience is the guy who runs Windows.
The guy who uses Flash to play the videos on YouTube.
The guy who is watching hardware accelerated HD H.264 video in his Flash 10 Beta 2 player.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31090200</id>
	<title>Re:Oblig: I'm a Mac, I'm a PC, I'm Linux</title>
	<author>suzieque</author>
	<datestamp>1265016300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That is so funny and the Linux guy looks just like my neighbour!</htmltext>
<tokenext>That is so funny and the Linux guy looks just like my neighbour !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That is so funny and the Linux guy looks just like my neighbour!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31092090</id>
	<title>SGO Mistika</title>
	<author>linuxpyro</author>
	<datestamp>1265024220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I was browsing Wikipedia a while back and found a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SGO\_Mistika" title="wikipedia.org">this prgram</a> [wikipedia.org], <a href="http://www.sgo.es/products/sgo-mistika-4k-2k-hd-sd/" title="www.sgo.es">SGO Mistika</a> [www.sgo.es], which is intended to run on SuSE.  It looks pretty high end, though the Wiki page says it has a reputation for having a difficult UI and seems to have a small but dedicated following.  Still, it's neat that there's something like this on Linux.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I was browsing Wikipedia a while back and found a this prgram [ wikipedia.org ] , SGO Mistika [ www.sgo.es ] , which is intended to run on SuSE .
It looks pretty high end , though the Wiki page says it has a reputation for having a difficult UI and seems to have a small but dedicated following .
Still , it 's neat that there 's something like this on Linux .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was browsing Wikipedia a while back and found a this prgram [wikipedia.org], SGO Mistika [www.sgo.es], which is intended to run on SuSE.
It looks pretty high end, though the Wiki page says it has a reputation for having a difficult UI and seems to have a small but dedicated following.
Still, it's neat that there's something like this on Linux.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31088596</id>
	<title>Here's a theme</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265052300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No multi-monitor support. Kernel updates that break drivers. Poor if any documentation. A "community" that trips over itself to insult you when you "dare" ask for help. Yep, we're linux!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No multi-monitor support .
Kernel updates that break drivers .
Poor if any documentation .
A " community " that trips over itself to insult you when you " dare " ask for help .
Yep , we 're linux !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No multi-monitor support.
Kernel updates that break drivers.
Poor if any documentation.
A "community" that trips over itself to insult you when you "dare" ask for help.
Yep, we're linux!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31088678</id>
	<title>Oblig:  I'm a Mac, I'm a PC, I'm Linux</title>
	<author>cpu\_fusion</author>
	<datestamp>1265052600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://news.cnet.com/i/bto/20070322/1157960476967.jpg" title="cnet.com">http://news.cnet.com/i/bto/20070322/1157960476967.jpg</a> [cnet.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //news.cnet.com/i/bto/20070322/1157960476967.jpg [ cnet.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://news.cnet.com/i/bto/20070322/1157960476967.jpg [cnet.com]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31089676</id>
	<title>My idea</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265056500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
this could be done as cgi or maybe actors dressed in costumes for a more campy feel.
</p><p>
Ad starts with a zoomed in, full screen of tux's face.  "Tux here.  it's hard work being a mascot." (4-color butterfly flies by and then seizes up.  "But I sure do love my job."
</p><p>
camera then zooms out to show BSD butt fucking tux doggy style.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>this could be done as cgi or maybe actors dressed in costumes for a more campy feel .
Ad starts with a zoomed in , full screen of tux 's face .
" Tux here .
it 's hard work being a mascot .
" ( 4-color butterfly flies by and then seizes up .
" But I sure do love my job .
" camera then zooms out to show BSD butt fucking tux doggy style .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
this could be done as cgi or maybe actors dressed in costumes for a more campy feel.
Ad starts with a zoomed in, full screen of tux's face.
"Tux here.
it's hard work being a mascot.
" (4-color butterfly flies by and then seizes up.
"But I sure do love my job.
"

camera then zooms out to show BSD butt fucking tux doggy style.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31089066</id>
	<title>Re:"The winner" = Exactly</title>
	<author>biryokumaru</author>
	<datestamp>1265053800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I can guarantee that mencoder will do absolutely everything that any other video encoding software will do. And if it can't, I can guarantee there's someone in the community just itching to make it do it for you. It's not my fault you're too lazy to learn how to use a CLI.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I can guarantee that mencoder will do absolutely everything that any other video encoding software will do .
And if it ca n't , I can guarantee there 's someone in the community just itching to make it do it for you .
It 's not my fault you 're too lazy to learn how to use a CLI .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can guarantee that mencoder will do absolutely everything that any other video encoding software will do.
And if it can't, I can guarantee there's someone in the community just itching to make it do it for you.
It's not my fault you're too lazy to learn how to use a CLI.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31088426</id>
	<title>"The winner" = Exactly</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265051640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I was perfectly happy with Linux until I wanted to start editing video.  Most Linux video editing apps while "free" and do a basic job, they IN NO WAY compare with even iMovie that comes included with your Mac.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I was perfectly happy with Linux until I wanted to start editing video .
Most Linux video editing apps while " free " and do a basic job , they IN NO WAY compare with even iMovie that comes included with your Mac .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was perfectly happy with Linux until I wanted to start editing video.
Most Linux video editing apps while "free" and do a basic job, they IN NO WAY compare with even iMovie that comes included with your Mac.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31091160</id>
	<title>Re:Final cut pro == sad</title>
	<author>elrous0</author>
	<datestamp>1265020680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Vegas is the best. Blows Premiere out of the water, IMHO. Give me Vegas over Final Cut Pro any day of the week.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Vegas is the best .
Blows Premiere out of the water , IMHO .
Give me Vegas over Final Cut Pro any day of the week .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Vegas is the best.
Blows Premiere out of the water, IMHO.
Give me Vegas over Final Cut Pro any day of the week.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31088366</id>
	<title>Final cut pro == sad</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265051400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why is that sad?  It's a great program that puts world class non-linear editing within reach of most everybody.  What is sad, is the insanely expensive and fiddly avid workstations and non-linear editors of the past.</p><p>Linux is just like macs in that there are huge disciplines where no applications exist.  For example there is no credible 3D solid modeling programs or printed circuit board layout on the Mac.  Now there is no credible non-linear video editing program for linux.  Both platforms are a niche market, both excel in ways that windows does not, and both are a victim of that nitch-i-ness.</p><p>It's only sad if people tried to make a video editor for linux and somehow were denied by forces outside their control.  If the only reason is that nobody has bothered to write a good one, then that's not sad.</p><p>Sheldon</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why is that sad ?
It 's a great program that puts world class non-linear editing within reach of most everybody .
What is sad , is the insanely expensive and fiddly avid workstations and non-linear editors of the past.Linux is just like macs in that there are huge disciplines where no applications exist .
For example there is no credible 3D solid modeling programs or printed circuit board layout on the Mac .
Now there is no credible non-linear video editing program for linux .
Both platforms are a niche market , both excel in ways that windows does not , and both are a victim of that nitch-i-ness.It 's only sad if people tried to make a video editor for linux and somehow were denied by forces outside their control .
If the only reason is that nobody has bothered to write a good one , then that 's not sad.Sheldon</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why is that sad?
It's a great program that puts world class non-linear editing within reach of most everybody.
What is sad, is the insanely expensive and fiddly avid workstations and non-linear editors of the past.Linux is just like macs in that there are huge disciplines where no applications exist.
For example there is no credible 3D solid modeling programs or printed circuit board layout on the Mac.
Now there is no credible non-linear video editing program for linux.
Both platforms are a niche market, both excel in ways that windows does not, and both are a victim of that nitch-i-ness.It's only sad if people tried to make a video editor for linux and somehow were denied by forces outside their control.
If the only reason is that nobody has bothered to write a good one, then that's not sad.Sheldon</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31088726</id>
	<title>No mention of last year's contest?</title>
	<author>ThoughtMonster</author>
	<datestamp>1265052780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Linux Foundation also did this in 2009. <a href="http://video.linuxfoundation.org/contest/winners" title="linuxfoundation.org" rel="nofollow">Here</a> [linuxfoundation.org] are last year's winners.</p><p>Also, I'm pretty sure that good results come from people who know their tools, and not from the tools themselves. A large amount of the video-editing tools on Linux leave a lot to be desired, but they're still light-years ahead of what was available, say, 20 years back. People made (and still make) good videos/movies without any kind of digital intervention, so that snide remark is probably debatable.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Linux Foundation also did this in 2009 .
Here [ linuxfoundation.org ] are last year 's winners.Also , I 'm pretty sure that good results come from people who know their tools , and not from the tools themselves .
A large amount of the video-editing tools on Linux leave a lot to be desired , but they 're still light-years ahead of what was available , say , 20 years back .
People made ( and still make ) good videos/movies without any kind of digital intervention , so that snide remark is probably debatable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Linux Foundation also did this in 2009.
Here [linuxfoundation.org] are last year's winners.Also, I'm pretty sure that good results come from people who know their tools, and not from the tools themselves.
A large amount of the video-editing tools on Linux leave a lot to be desired, but they're still light-years ahead of what was available, say, 20 years back.
People made (and still make) good videos/movies without any kind of digital intervention, so that snide remark is probably debatable.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31092304</id>
	<title>Re:These guys really want to be an example?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265025300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wow, I'm glad I'm not alone. The alternatives already exist, e.g. the Canvas and Video tags, SVG and SMIL. I dislike the WebGL development though, if it'll get abused as much as Flash, it'll be another huge burden on web accessibility, albeit not one that involves POS proprietary software (well except for some GPU drivers).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow , I 'm glad I 'm not alone .
The alternatives already exist , e.g .
the Canvas and Video tags , SVG and SMIL .
I dislike the WebGL development though , if it 'll get abused as much as Flash , it 'll be another huge burden on web accessibility , albeit not one that involves POS proprietary software ( well except for some GPU drivers ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow, I'm glad I'm not alone.
The alternatives already exist, e.g.
the Canvas and Video tags, SVG and SMIL.
I dislike the WebGL development though, if it'll get abused as much as Flash, it'll be another huge burden on web accessibility, albeit not one that involves POS proprietary software (well except for some GPU drivers).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31093148</id>
	<title>Energizer Bunny</title>
	<author>El\_Oscuro</author>
	<datestamp>1265030340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It starts with the typical Mac/PC ad.  Just as the argument starts to get annoying to the viewer, a penguin comes in and starts pecking the other 2 off the screen.  "Linux:  The OTHER PC"</p><p>Another option is any one of those really annoying Microsoft ads.  Just as the guy starts raving about how he can line up 2 Windows, the penguin mentions his PC was added to a bot net during the commercial before pecking him off the screen.  "Linux:  The OTHER PC"</p><p>Or maybe you could have a "Project:  Sahara", where everyone is raving about the new version of Windows, how fast and secure it is, and many applications it has, when it is revealed they are running Ubuntu.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It starts with the typical Mac/PC ad .
Just as the argument starts to get annoying to the viewer , a penguin comes in and starts pecking the other 2 off the screen .
" Linux : The OTHER PC " Another option is any one of those really annoying Microsoft ads .
Just as the guy starts raving about how he can line up 2 Windows , the penguin mentions his PC was added to a bot net during the commercial before pecking him off the screen .
" Linux : The OTHER PC " Or maybe you could have a " Project : Sahara " , where everyone is raving about the new version of Windows , how fast and secure it is , and many applications it has , when it is revealed they are running Ubuntu .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It starts with the typical Mac/PC ad.
Just as the argument starts to get annoying to the viewer, a penguin comes in and starts pecking the other 2 off the screen.
"Linux:  The OTHER PC"Another option is any one of those really annoying Microsoft ads.
Just as the guy starts raving about how he can line up 2 Windows, the penguin mentions his PC was added to a bot net during the commercial before pecking him off the screen.
"Linux:  The OTHER PC"Or maybe you could have a "Project:  Sahara", where everyone is raving about the new version of Windows, how fast and secure it is, and many applications it has, when it is revealed they are running Ubuntu.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31088860</id>
	<title>done.</title>
	<author>savuporo</author>
	<datestamp>1265053140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-22EpQOm8c" title="youtube.com">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-22EpQOm8c</a> [youtube.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = 0-22EpQOm8c [ youtube.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-22EpQOm8c [youtube.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31089648</id>
	<title>Re:Advertising Linux is the dumbest thing ever...</title>
	<author>Jeng</author>
	<datestamp>1265056380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ever read a trade magazine?</p><p>There are ads for everything under the sun, from the balls in ball bearings to urinal cakes.</p><p>This ad campaign ain't exactly going to be run during the Superbowl.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ever read a trade magazine ? There are ads for everything under the sun , from the balls in ball bearings to urinal cakes.This ad campaign ai n't exactly going to be run during the Superbowl .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ever read a trade magazine?There are ads for everything under the sun, from the balls in ball bearings to urinal cakes.This ad campaign ain't exactly going to be run during the Superbowl.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31090036</id>
	<title>These guys really want to be an example?</title>
	<author>Seth Kriticos</author>
	<datestamp>1265015160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm using Linux. And I'm boycotting flash. So I'm here on an Ubuntu Linux (my home computer) and can't watch the videos on <a href="http://video.linuxfoundation.org/category/we-are-linux-foundation-video-contest" title="linuxfoundation.org">http://video.linuxfoundation.org/category/we-are-linux-foundation-video-contest</a> [linuxfoundation.org] the linuxfoundation is talking about. WTF? You people should try to make some accessibility example for OSS folks if you want to be taken seriously. What is this carp??</p><p>On the other hand, reading about the content of the videos, maybe it's better this way..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm using Linux .
And I 'm boycotting flash .
So I 'm here on an Ubuntu Linux ( my home computer ) and ca n't watch the videos on http : //video.linuxfoundation.org/category/we-are-linux-foundation-video-contest [ linuxfoundation.org ] the linuxfoundation is talking about .
WTF ? You people should try to make some accessibility example for OSS folks if you want to be taken seriously .
What is this carp ?
? On the other hand , reading about the content of the videos , maybe it 's better this way. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm using Linux.
And I'm boycotting flash.
So I'm here on an Ubuntu Linux (my home computer) and can't watch the videos on http://video.linuxfoundation.org/category/we-are-linux-foundation-video-contest [linuxfoundation.org] the linuxfoundation is talking about.
WTF? You people should try to make some accessibility example for OSS folks if you want to be taken seriously.
What is this carp?
?On the other hand, reading about the content of the videos, maybe it's better this way..</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31090662</id>
	<title>Re:No mention of last year's contest?</title>
	<author>westlake</author>
	<datestamp>1265018640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>The Linux Foundation also did this in 2009. Here are last year's winners.</i> </p><p>In March 2009 Win 7 had a global market share of 0\%.</p><p>Linux 1\%.</p><p>It is reasonably safe to predict that in March 2010, Win 7 will break through 10\%. Barring a miracle, Linux will remain at 1\%. <a href="http://marketshare.hitslink.com/os-market-share.aspx?qprid=11" title="hitslink.com">Top Operating System Share Trends</a> [hitslink.com] </p><p>The W3Schools stats are kinder to Linux - but the trend lines are just as flat.</p><p>Apple sells an upscale urban lifestyle. Microsoft solid middle class values. This is not the geek's definition of freedom. But it strikes a chord with others.</p><p>The geek remembers "1984." But IBM did very well with Charlie Chaplin.</p><p>The FOSS application is routinely ported to Windows or begins as a native Windows app. That takes the wind out of your sails when you talk to the user about "freedom."</p><p>
&nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Linux Foundation also did this in 2009 .
Here are last year 's winners .
In March 2009 Win 7 had a global market share of 0 \ % .Linux 1 \ % .It is reasonably safe to predict that in March 2010 , Win 7 will break through 10 \ % .
Barring a miracle , Linux will remain at 1 \ % .
Top Operating System Share Trends [ hitslink.com ] The W3Schools stats are kinder to Linux - but the trend lines are just as flat.Apple sells an upscale urban lifestyle .
Microsoft solid middle class values .
This is not the geek 's definition of freedom .
But it strikes a chord with others.The geek remembers " 1984 .
" But IBM did very well with Charlie Chaplin.The FOSS application is routinely ported to Windows or begins as a native Windows app .
That takes the wind out of your sails when you talk to the user about " freedom .
"  </tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Linux Foundation also did this in 2009.
Here are last year's winners.
In March 2009 Win 7 had a global market share of 0\%.Linux 1\%.It is reasonably safe to predict that in March 2010, Win 7 will break through 10\%.
Barring a miracle, Linux will remain at 1\%.
Top Operating System Share Trends [hitslink.com] The W3Schools stats are kinder to Linux - but the trend lines are just as flat.Apple sells an upscale urban lifestyle.
Microsoft solid middle class values.
This is not the geek's definition of freedom.
But it strikes a chord with others.The geek remembers "1984.
" But IBM did very well with Charlie Chaplin.The FOSS application is routinely ported to Windows or begins as a native Windows app.
That takes the wind out of your sails when you talk to the user about "freedom.
"
 </sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31088448</id>
	<title>Re:Final cut pro == sad</title>
	<author>courteaudotbiz</author>
	<datestamp>1265051760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Which I still had mod points for you. +++</htmltext>
<tokenext>Which I still had mod points for you .
+ + +</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Which I still had mod points for you.
+++</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31095788</id>
	<title>*grins*</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265046240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>*We are Linux* Buy the same hardware that we use for develop our OS or die.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;) Well at least is the same answer you get when you ask for help in several Linux forums so this is not a lie<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>* We are Linux * Buy the same hardware that we use for develop our OS or die .
; ) Well at least is the same answer you get when you ask for help in several Linux forums so this is not a lie ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>*We are Linux* Buy the same hardware that we use for develop our OS or die.
;) Well at least is the same answer you get when you ask for help in several Linux forums so this is not a lie ;)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31088424</id>
	<title>Do you have to use linux</title>
	<author>jgtg32a</author>
	<datestamp>1265051640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>to actually make the video, or can you use Win/Mac?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>to actually make the video , or can you use Win/Mac ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>to actually make the video, or can you use Win/Mac?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31097250</id>
	<title>It's like the special olympics</title>
	<author>Hognoxious</author>
	<datestamp>1265883120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's like the special olympics<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... just entering makes you a retard.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's like the special olympics ... just entering makes you a retard .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's like the special olympics ... just entering makes you a retard.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31095806</id>
	<title>Re:These guys really want to be an example?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265046420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>yes, fail, hows that flash killing anyway?</htmltext>
<tokenext>yes , fail , hows that flash killing anyway ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>yes, fail, hows that flash killing anyway?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31091010</id>
	<title>Re:Final cut pro == sad</title>
	<author>null8</author>
	<datestamp>1265020140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm quite happy with wings3d <a href="http://www.wings3d.com/" title="wings3d.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.wings3d.com/</a> [wings3d.com] for my 3d modelling needs. It's quite easy to pick up and is cross-platform. If there were no wings3d i'd most surely have written my own by now.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm quite happy with wings3d http : //www.wings3d.com/ [ wings3d.com ] for my 3d modelling needs .
It 's quite easy to pick up and is cross-platform .
If there were no wings3d i 'd most surely have written my own by now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm quite happy with wings3d http://www.wings3d.com/ [wings3d.com] for my 3d modelling needs.
It's quite easy to pick up and is cross-platform.
If there were no wings3d i'd most surely have written my own by now.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31088366</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31090356</id>
	<title>Re:I'll take "retarded snowclone" for 500, Alex!</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1265017200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm afraid that's not possible. See, to get in the ad industry you have to take an IQ test. If you score over 80, you fail.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm afraid that 's not possible .
See , to get in the ad industry you have to take an IQ test .
If you score over 80 , you fail .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm afraid that's not possible.
See, to get in the ad industry you have to take an IQ test.
If you score over 80, you fail.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31089804</id>
	<title>Re:A sunny beach, a warm breeze</title>
	<author>Opportunist</author>
	<datestamp>1265057100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Talk for yourself. If it wasn't for the Windows monoculture, the cluelessness of its users and the high potential profits in finding its security holes, I wouldn't have a job!</p><p>Yes, I'm a vulture, living of people's misery. I hate myself. But at least I have a nice bank account to ease my pain. I think that's how a bank manager has to feel about his job, too, thinking about it...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Talk for yourself .
If it was n't for the Windows monoculture , the cluelessness of its users and the high potential profits in finding its security holes , I would n't have a job ! Yes , I 'm a vulture , living of people 's misery .
I hate myself .
But at least I have a nice bank account to ease my pain .
I think that 's how a bank manager has to feel about his job , too , thinking about it.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Talk for yourself.
If it wasn't for the Windows monoculture, the cluelessness of its users and the high potential profits in finding its security holes, I wouldn't have a job!Yes, I'm a vulture, living of people's misery.
I hate myself.
But at least I have a nice bank account to ease my pain.
I think that's how a bank manager has to feel about his job, too, thinking about it...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31089166</id>
	<title>Re:Here's a theme</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265054280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>No multi-monitor support. Kernel updates that break drivers. Poor if any documentation. A "community" that trips over itself to insult you when you "dare" ask for help.</i></p><p>Are you talking about Linux, or Windows? IINM Linux has had support for multiple monitors for quite some time; Windows took a while to catch up. Kernel updates that break drivers? Windows again, only with Windows it's mandatory. The first automatic update that hit XP when I first got it replaced my perfectly good network driver with one that didn't work at all. Poor documentation??? That's my #1 complaint about Microsoft; their docs are TERRIBLE unless you buy a third party book. If I hit F1 more often than not if I actually find what I'm looking for it directs me to a nonexistant menu item. When I've looked for Linux help I never ran across insults, maybe you're being arrogant and insulting the community while asking for help ("How the fuck do I get this retarded POS Linux to work? You guys are all assholes").</p><p>You Microsoft employees need to take your meds, because you're delusional.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No multi-monitor support .
Kernel updates that break drivers .
Poor if any documentation .
A " community " that trips over itself to insult you when you " dare " ask for help.Are you talking about Linux , or Windows ?
IINM Linux has had support for multiple monitors for quite some time ; Windows took a while to catch up .
Kernel updates that break drivers ?
Windows again , only with Windows it 's mandatory .
The first automatic update that hit XP when I first got it replaced my perfectly good network driver with one that did n't work at all .
Poor documentation ? ? ?
That 's my # 1 complaint about Microsoft ; their docs are TERRIBLE unless you buy a third party book .
If I hit F1 more often than not if I actually find what I 'm looking for it directs me to a nonexistant menu item .
When I 've looked for Linux help I never ran across insults , maybe you 're being arrogant and insulting the community while asking for help ( " How the fuck do I get this retarded POS Linux to work ?
You guys are all assholes " ) .You Microsoft employees need to take your meds , because you 're delusional .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No multi-monitor support.
Kernel updates that break drivers.
Poor if any documentation.
A "community" that trips over itself to insult you when you "dare" ask for help.Are you talking about Linux, or Windows?
IINM Linux has had support for multiple monitors for quite some time; Windows took a while to catch up.
Kernel updates that break drivers?
Windows again, only with Windows it's mandatory.
The first automatic update that hit XP when I first got it replaced my perfectly good network driver with one that didn't work at all.
Poor documentation???
That's my #1 complaint about Microsoft; their docs are TERRIBLE unless you buy a third party book.
If I hit F1 more often than not if I actually find what I'm looking for it directs me to a nonexistant menu item.
When I've looked for Linux help I never ran across insults, maybe you're being arrogant and insulting the community while asking for help ("How the fuck do I get this retarded POS Linux to work?
You guys are all assholes").You Microsoft employees need to take your meds, because you're delusional.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31089434</id>
	<title>Re:"The winner" = Exactly</title>
	<author>sznupi</author>
	<datestamp>1265055420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>iMovie is not worth recommending, it <i>destroys</i> your footage (FInal Cut Express does it, too). And latest version went too far with dumbing down.</p><p>Concisely presented details:<br><a href="http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2009/04/11/stay-the-fuck-away-from-imoviefce/" title="gnomefiles.org">http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2009/04/11/stay-the-fuck-away-from-imoviefce/</a> [gnomefiles.org]<br><a href="http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2009/10/16/regarding-apples-iframe-spec/" title="gnomefiles.org">http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2009/10/16/regarding-apples-iframe-spec/</a> [gnomefiles.org]<br><a href="http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2007/08/09/imovie-08-sucks/" title="gnomefiles.org">http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2007/08/09/imovie-08-sucks/</a> [gnomefiles.org]</p><p>At least FCP is sensible technically...but other powerfull software, like Sony Vegas, can be had for less than half the price (that doesn't even take into account the hardware), so...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>iMovie is not worth recommending , it destroys your footage ( FInal Cut Express does it , too ) .
And latest version went too far with dumbing down.Concisely presented details : http : //eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2009/04/11/stay-the-fuck-away-from-imoviefce/ [ gnomefiles.org ] http : //eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2009/10/16/regarding-apples-iframe-spec/ [ gnomefiles.org ] http : //eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2007/08/09/imovie-08-sucks/ [ gnomefiles.org ] At least FCP is sensible technically...but other powerfull software , like Sony Vegas , can be had for less than half the price ( that does n't even take into account the hardware ) , so.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>iMovie is not worth recommending, it destroys your footage (FInal Cut Express does it, too).
And latest version went too far with dumbing down.Concisely presented details:http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2009/04/11/stay-the-fuck-away-from-imoviefce/ [gnomefiles.org]http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2009/10/16/regarding-apples-iframe-spec/ [gnomefiles.org]http://eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2007/08/09/imovie-08-sucks/ [gnomefiles.org]At least FCP is sensible technically...but other powerfull software, like Sony Vegas, can be had for less than half the price (that doesn't even take into account the hardware), so...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31088884</id>
	<title>Re:Here's a theme</title>
	<author>horza</author>
	<datestamp>1265053260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Eh? I have been using muti-monitors under Linux for over a decade. Are you going for a retro 80's ad?</p><p>Phillip.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Eh ?
I have been using muti-monitors under Linux for over a decade .
Are you going for a retro 80 's ad ? Phillip .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Eh?
I have been using muti-monitors under Linux for over a decade.
Are you going for a retro 80's ad?Phillip.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31091676</id>
	<title>Re:Do you have to use linux</title>
	<author>shutdown -p now</author>
	<datestamp>1265022660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>cat<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/boot/vmlinuz &gt; my\_submission.ogv</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>cat /boot/vmlinuz &gt; my \ _submission.ogv</tokentext>
<sentencetext>cat /boot/vmlinuz &gt; my\_submission.ogv</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31091572</id>
	<title>Re:I'll take "retarded snowclone" for 500, Alex!</title>
	<author>Dalambertian</author>
	<datestamp>1265022180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>As far as I know, Linux has never had a decent marketing campaign. I don't care if it's not the most imaginative approach as long as people start to see it as a viable alternative. I'll reserve judgment until the results are in.</htmltext>
<tokenext>As far as I know , Linux has never had a decent marketing campaign .
I do n't care if it 's not the most imaginative approach as long as people start to see it as a viable alternative .
I 'll reserve judgment until the results are in .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As far as I know, Linux has never had a decent marketing campaign.
I don't care if it's not the most imaginative approach as long as people start to see it as a viable alternative.
I'll reserve judgment until the results are in.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31098376</id>
	<title>Blender</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265896680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Sadly, the winner will almost certainly be edited in Final Cut Pro on a Mac<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></div><p>No, the winner will almost certainly be edited in Blender on Linux, just like "<a href="http://orange.blender.org/" title="blender.org" rel="nofollow">Elephants Dream</a> [blender.org]", "<a href="http://peach.blender.org/" title="blender.org" rel="nofollow">Big Buck Bunny</a> [blender.org]" or "<a href="http://durian.blender.org/" title="blender.org" rel="nofollow">Sintel</a> [blender.org]".</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sadly , the winner will almost certainly be edited in Final Cut Pro on a Mac ; ) No , the winner will almost certainly be edited in Blender on Linux , just like " Elephants Dream [ blender.org ] " , " Big Buck Bunny [ blender.org ] " or " Sintel [ blender.org ] " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sadly, the winner will almost certainly be edited in Final Cut Pro on a Mac ;)No, the winner will almost certainly be edited in Blender on Linux, just like "Elephants Dream [blender.org]", "Big Buck Bunny [blender.org]" or "Sintel [blender.org]".
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31090486</id>
	<title>You can too edit video on Linux</title>
	<author>realinvalidname</author>
	<datestamp>1265017980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>and you'll recognize those submissions as the ones where the audio and video are totally out of sync.</htmltext>
<tokenext>and you 'll recognize those submissions as the ones where the audio and video are totally out of sync .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and you'll recognize those submissions as the ones where the audio and video are totally out of sync.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31088236</id>
	<title>In other news,</title>
	<author>LOLLinux</author>
	<datestamp>1265050920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Rob Malda wins the "I have a Micropenis" Video Contest.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Rob Malda wins the " I have a Micropenis " Video Contest .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Rob Malda wins the "I have a Micropenis" Video Contest.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_10_1750256.31088472</id>
	<title>"I'm a PC...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265051820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And I chose Windows because Linux is still too obtuse for the average user."</p><p>Wake me up when it's actually the Year of the Linux Desktop. These false alarms are getting old.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And I chose Windows because Linux is still too obtuse for the average user .
" Wake me up when it 's actually the Year of the Linux Desktop .
These false alarms are getting old .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And I chose Windows because Linux is still too obtuse for the average user.
"Wake me up when it's actually the Year of the Linux Desktop.
These false alarms are getting old.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Final cut pro == sad</title>
	<author>Tetsujin</author>
	<datestamp>1265057880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>It's only sad if people tried to make a video editor for linux and somehow were denied by forces outside their control.  If the only reason is that nobody has bothered to write a good one, then that's not sad.</p></div><p>As a Linux user <em>I</em> think it's sad that we don't yet have a decent video editing solution on Linux...</p><p>I agree with what you say that Final Cut Pro <em>itself</em> isn't "sad" - but the fact that Linux users making a video about using Linux don't have a decent tool to edit their videos with is kind of a drag...</p></div>
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<tokenext>It 's only sad if people tried to make a video editor for linux and somehow were denied by forces outside their control .
If the only reason is that nobody has bothered to write a good one , then that 's not sad.As a Linux user I think it 's sad that we do n't yet have a decent video editing solution on Linux...I agree with what you say that Final Cut Pro itself is n't " sad " - but the fact that Linux users making a video about using Linux do n't have a decent tool to edit their videos with is kind of a drag.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's only sad if people tried to make a video editor for linux and somehow were denied by forces outside their control.
If the only reason is that nobody has bothered to write a good one, then that's not sad.As a Linux user I think it's sad that we don't yet have a decent video editing solution on Linux...I agree with what you say that Final Cut Pro itself isn't "sad" - but the fact that Linux users making a video about using Linux don't have a decent tool to edit their videos with is kind of a drag...
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	<title>Re:"The winner" = Exactly</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265054400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You may want to try OpenShot.  It's sorta like a better Windows Movie Maker: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openshot</p><p>I find it to be easier and with more built-in features than Kino and Avidemux.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You may want to try OpenShot .
It 's sorta like a better Windows Movie Maker : http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenshotI find it to be easier and with more built-in features than Kino and Avidemux .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You may want to try OpenShot.
It's sorta like a better Windows Movie Maker: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenshotI find it to be easier and with more built-in features than Kino and Avidemux.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Final cut pro == sad</title>
	<author>0100010001010011</author>
	<datestamp>1265052840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Final Cut Express is $199<br>iMovie is Free.</p><p>It's the Pro version that is $999.</p><p>Unless you're editing a movie that you plan on putting on the big screen. FCE is MORE than you could ever hope to use.</p><p>You could edit most stuff made on TV today with just iMovie.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Final Cut Express is $ 199iMovie is Free.It 's the Pro version that is $ 999.Unless you 're editing a movie that you plan on putting on the big screen .
FCE is MORE than you could ever hope to use.You could edit most stuff made on TV today with just iMovie .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Final Cut Express is $199iMovie is Free.It's the Pro version that is $999.Unless you're editing a movie that you plan on putting on the big screen.
FCE is MORE than you could ever hope to use.You could edit most stuff made on TV today with just iMovie.</sentencetext>
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