<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_02_09_0141242</id>
	<title>Google Reduces Its Nexus One Termination Fee</title>
	<author>kdawson</author>
	<datestamp>1265743860000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>CWmike writes <i>"The <a href="//tech.slashdot.org/story/10/02/08/1551220/Nexus-One-First-Phone-Linus-Torvalds-Doesnt-Hate">only smartphone Linus Torvalds doesn't hate</a> is that much less unlikable now that Google has <a href="http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9153878/Google\_reduces\_its\_Nexus\_One\_termination\_fee">quietly chopped $200 off</a> its <a href="//mobile.slashdot.org/story/10/01/12/1819214/Google-Charges-ETF-For-Nexus-One-On-Top-of-Carriers">early termination fee</a> on the Nexus One. Customers who cancel the service had been on the hook for $550, including a $350 Google cancellation charge. Google has reduced their fee to $150 &mdash; but users are still liable for a $200 ETF from T-Mobile. Users have a 14-day grace period during which they do not have to pay either charge, although they may be hit with a restocking fee. The $350 total fee matches one of the highest in the industry, charged by Verizon. Google did not announce the change but simply altered its online <a href="http://www.google.com/phone/static/en\_US-terms\_of\_sale.html">terms-of-service document</a>."</i> The price cut could add momentum to a phone that, by one reckoning, <a href="//mobile.slashdot.org/story/10/02/06/233240/Googles-Nexus-One-a-Steal-At-49-Unlocked">costs only $49 unlocked</a>.</htmltext>
<tokenext>CWmike writes " The only smartphone Linus Torvalds does n't hate is that much less unlikable now that Google has quietly chopped $ 200 off its early termination fee on the Nexus One .
Customers who cancel the service had been on the hook for $ 550 , including a $ 350 Google cancellation charge .
Google has reduced their fee to $ 150    but users are still liable for a $ 200 ETF from T-Mobile .
Users have a 14-day grace period during which they do not have to pay either charge , although they may be hit with a restocking fee .
The $ 350 total fee matches one of the highest in the industry , charged by Verizon .
Google did not announce the change but simply altered its online terms-of-service document .
" The price cut could add momentum to a phone that , by one reckoning , costs only $ 49 unlocked .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>CWmike writes "The only smartphone Linus Torvalds doesn't hate is that much less unlikable now that Google has quietly chopped $200 off its early termination fee on the Nexus One.
Customers who cancel the service had been on the hook for $550, including a $350 Google cancellation charge.
Google has reduced their fee to $150 — but users are still liable for a $200 ETF from T-Mobile.
Users have a 14-day grace period during which they do not have to pay either charge, although they may be hit with a restocking fee.
The $350 total fee matches one of the highest in the industry, charged by Verizon.
Google did not announce the change but simply altered its online terms-of-service document.
" The price cut could add momentum to a phone that, by one reckoning, costs only $49 unlocked.</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0141242.31069952</id>
	<title>Re:Slashvertisement at its best</title>
	<author>shri</author>
	<datestamp>1265712300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not to mention, it got Computer World their link for the day. Wish we could ignore by submitter. Low quality garbage that passes for news...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not to mention , it got Computer World their link for the day .
Wish we could ignore by submitter .
Low quality garbage that passes for news.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not to mention, it got Computer World their link for the day.
Wish we could ignore by submitter.
Low quality garbage that passes for news...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0141242.31069510</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0141242.31072912</id>
	<title>Re:Slashvertisement at its best</title>
	<author>farble1670</author>
	<datestamp>1265734800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Early termination fees are a JOKE, especially with a size like that.</p></div><p>i guess you should explain that comment. should a consumer be allowed to pay $180 + $80 for a contract, then cancel with no ETF thereby getting a $530 nexus one phone for $260?</p><p>if the provider is subsidizing the price of the phone, a pro-rated ETF based on the retail price of the phone is fair. in this case, you pay $180 for the subsidized phone and an ETF of $350. $350+$180 = $530<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... and surprise, that's the price of the unsubsidized phone. in other words, if you decide to cancel your contract, you pay the unsubsidized fee that you would have paid in the first place if you hadn't gotten a contract.</p><p>how is that not fair?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Early termination fees are a JOKE , especially with a size like that.i guess you should explain that comment .
should a consumer be allowed to pay $ 180 + $ 80 for a contract , then cancel with no ETF thereby getting a $ 530 nexus one phone for $ 260 ? if the provider is subsidizing the price of the phone , a pro-rated ETF based on the retail price of the phone is fair .
in this case , you pay $ 180 for the subsidized phone and an ETF of $ 350 .
$ 350 + $ 180 = $ 530 ... and surprise , that 's the price of the unsubsidized phone .
in other words , if you decide to cancel your contract , you pay the unsubsidized fee that you would have paid in the first place if you had n't gotten a contract.how is that not fair ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Early termination fees are a JOKE, especially with a size like that.i guess you should explain that comment.
should a consumer be allowed to pay $180 + $80 for a contract, then cancel with no ETF thereby getting a $530 nexus one phone for $260?if the provider is subsidizing the price of the phone, a pro-rated ETF based on the retail price of the phone is fair.
in this case, you pay $180 for the subsidized phone and an ETF of $350.
$350+$180 = $530 ... and surprise, that's the price of the unsubsidized phone.
in other words, if you decide to cancel your contract, you pay the unsubsidized fee that you would have paid in the first place if you hadn't gotten a contract.how is that not fair?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0141242.31069594</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0141242.31069816</id>
	<title>Horay for the don't be evil company!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265710140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>When they screw us they use lube!</htmltext>
<tokenext>When they screw us they use lube !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When they screw us they use lube!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0141242.31072958</id>
	<title>Linus who?</title>
	<author>noidentity</author>
	<datestamp>1265735040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>The only smartphone Linus Torvalds doesn't hate is that much less unlikable now that Google has quietly chopped $200 off its early termination fee on the Nexus One.</p></div>
</blockquote><p>It'd be nice if the summary told us who Linus Torvalds is, rather than just assuming we know everyone in the tech world.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The only smartphone Linus Torvalds does n't hate is that much less unlikable now that Google has quietly chopped $ 200 off its early termination fee on the Nexus One .
It 'd be nice if the summary told us who Linus Torvalds is , rather than just assuming we know everyone in the tech world .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The only smartphone Linus Torvalds doesn't hate is that much less unlikable now that Google has quietly chopped $200 off its early termination fee on the Nexus One.
It'd be nice if the summary told us who Linus Torvalds is, rather than just assuming we know everyone in the tech world.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0141242.31069498</id>
	<title>Yuck.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265748000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There's a pubic hair on my keyboard. What the fuck?? I "mow the lawn" so it's not mine. Gross.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's a pubic hair on my keyboard .
What the fuck ? ?
I " mow the lawn " so it 's not mine .
Gross .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's a pubic hair on my keyboard.
What the fuck??
I "mow the lawn" so it's not mine.
Gross.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0141242.31073122</id>
	<title>iphone vs. nexus one math</title>
	<author>farble1670</author>
	<datestamp>1265735640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>iphone: $199 + $79 * 24 = $2095 (AT&amp;T, subsidized iphone)<br>n1: $530 + $59 * 24 = $1946 (T-mo, no contract)</p><p>nexus one savings over 2 years: $2095 - $1946 = $149</p><p>not having a contract is a big plus, but i don't see where the nexus one is much cheaper.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>iphone : $ 199 + $ 79 * 24 = $ 2095 ( AT&amp;T , subsidized iphone ) n1 : $ 530 + $ 59 * 24 = $ 1946 ( T-mo , no contract ) nexus one savings over 2 years : $ 2095 - $ 1946 = $ 149not having a contract is a big plus , but i do n't see where the nexus one is much cheaper .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>iphone: $199 + $79 * 24 = $2095 (AT&amp;T, subsidized iphone)n1: $530 + $59 * 24 = $1946 (T-mo, no contract)nexus one savings over 2 years: $2095 - $1946 = $149not having a contract is a big plus, but i don't see where the nexus one is much cheaper.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0141242.31072128</id>
	<title>You owe them something eitherway.</title>
	<author>BlueKitties</author>
	<datestamp>1265731500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You go into a T-Mobile store, you soak up half an hour of their employees time and then turn around and want ~all~ of your money back five days later, where you will then soak up another thirty minutes of their time. Not to mention paper, a device that now has to be cleared out, contacting headquarters so someone can cutoff your stuff, etc. And you want them to do this for "free?" This isn't Walmart, stop being selfish. If you cancel your service, you should owe them something, at least to cover their time and operating costs.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You go into a T-Mobile store , you soak up half an hour of their employees time and then turn around and want ~ all ~ of your money back five days later , where you will then soak up another thirty minutes of their time .
Not to mention paper , a device that now has to be cleared out , contacting headquarters so someone can cutoff your stuff , etc .
And you want them to do this for " free ?
" This is n't Walmart , stop being selfish .
If you cancel your service , you should owe them something , at least to cover their time and operating costs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You go into a T-Mobile store, you soak up half an hour of their employees time and then turn around and want ~all~ of your money back five days later, where you will then soak up another thirty minutes of their time.
Not to mention paper, a device that now has to be cleared out, contacting headquarters so someone can cutoff your stuff, etc.
And you want them to do this for "free?
" This isn't Walmart, stop being selfish.
If you cancel your service, you should owe them something, at least to cover their time and operating costs.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0141242.31069974</id>
	<title>Re:Unbelievable</title>
	<author>lattyware</author>
	<datestamp>1265712720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>How else do you expect it to work?

If you want subsidised phones, early termination fees are a necessary evil. If you could just cancel your contract one month in with no penalty, then everyone would just sign up, get the phone, and cancel.</htmltext>
<tokenext>How else do you expect it to work ?
If you want subsidised phones , early termination fees are a necessary evil .
If you could just cancel your contract one month in with no penalty , then everyone would just sign up , get the phone , and cancel .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How else do you expect it to work?
If you want subsidised phones, early termination fees are a necessary evil.
If you could just cancel your contract one month in with no penalty, then everyone would just sign up, get the phone, and cancel.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0141242.31069512</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0141242.31069800</id>
	<title>Dont be...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265709720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Evil?  Well with these fees maybe just a <i>little</i> bit evil. But seriously this is google, how much more money do they need?
<br>
Personally, I am waiting for the phone that is subsidized by non-obtrusive, relevant advertising.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Evil ?
Well with these fees maybe just a little bit evil .
But seriously this is google , how much more money do they need ?
Personally , I am waiting for the phone that is subsidized by non-obtrusive , relevant advertising .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Evil?
Well with these fees maybe just a little bit evil.
But seriously this is google, how much more money do they need?
Personally, I am waiting for the phone that is subsidized by non-obtrusive, relevant advertising.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0141242.31069750</id>
	<title>Get Real</title>
	<author>honkycat</author>
	<datestamp>1265708760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The price cut could add momentum to a phone that, by one reckoning, costs only $49 unlocked.</p> </div><p>And, by another reckoning, it actually saves you $5,000 and rescues your cat from a tree.  Incidentally, both reckonings are fallacious.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The price cut could add momentum to a phone that , by one reckoning , costs only $ 49 unlocked .
And , by another reckoning , it actually saves you $ 5,000 and rescues your cat from a tree .
Incidentally , both reckonings are fallacious .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The price cut could add momentum to a phone that, by one reckoning, costs only $49 unlocked.
And, by another reckoning, it actually saves you $5,000 and rescues your cat from a tree.
Incidentally, both reckonings are fallacious.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0141242.31070654</id>
	<title>Re:Slashvertisement at its best</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265721960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One of the reasons that I don't subscribe to<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. anymore.  It certainly isn't w/o advertisements and too lame these days for the cost..</p><p>
&nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One of the reasons that I do n't subscribe to / .
anymore. It certainly is n't w/o advertisements and too lame these days for the cost. .  </tokentext>
<sentencetext>One of the reasons that I don't subscribe to /.
anymore.  It certainly isn't w/o advertisements and too lame these days for the cost..
 </sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0141242.31069510</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0141242.31069842</id>
	<title>Similar ETFs on Verizon</title>
	<author>kidgenius</author>
	<datestamp>1265710500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>So I just upgraded my phone on Verizon over the weekend, and though everyone is making a big deal about having 2 ETFs with the N1 (one on from Google, the other from T-Mobile), I believe the same thing is in place for ATT &amp; VZW.  See, you can upgrade your phones through a few 3rd party services (one being Amazon).  In the fine print you have 6 months that you cannot change which plan a phone is on.  If you do, Amazon will charge you the full device price for the phone.  This is Amazon now, not VZW.  If you also canceled your contract, VZW would also charge you an ETF, even though you paid Amazon for your phone.  There you go, 2 ETFs.  ATT, Sprint, and even TMobile all say the same thing when you upgrade through 3rd parties (of which Google would be one)</htmltext>
<tokenext>So I just upgraded my phone on Verizon over the weekend , and though everyone is making a big deal about having 2 ETFs with the N1 ( one on from Google , the other from T-Mobile ) , I believe the same thing is in place for ATT &amp; VZW .
See , you can upgrade your phones through a few 3rd party services ( one being Amazon ) .
In the fine print you have 6 months that you can not change which plan a phone is on .
If you do , Amazon will charge you the full device price for the phone .
This is Amazon now , not VZW .
If you also canceled your contract , VZW would also charge you an ETF , even though you paid Amazon for your phone .
There you go , 2 ETFs .
ATT , Sprint , and even TMobile all say the same thing when you upgrade through 3rd parties ( of which Google would be one )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So I just upgraded my phone on Verizon over the weekend, and though everyone is making a big deal about having 2 ETFs with the N1 (one on from Google, the other from T-Mobile), I believe the same thing is in place for ATT &amp; VZW.
See, you can upgrade your phones through a few 3rd party services (one being Amazon).
In the fine print you have 6 months that you cannot change which plan a phone is on.
If you do, Amazon will charge you the full device price for the phone.
This is Amazon now, not VZW.
If you also canceled your contract, VZW would also charge you an ETF, even though you paid Amazon for your phone.
There you go, 2 ETFs.
ATT, Sprint, and even TMobile all say the same thing when you upgrade through 3rd parties (of which Google would be one)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0141242.31069520</id>
	<title>Nexus one eh?</title>
	<author>Rosco P. Coltrane</author>
	<datestamp>1265748300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nexuses are retired, not terminated.<br>Just saying...</p><p>-- Roy Batty</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nexuses are retired , not terminated.Just saying...-- Roy Batty</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nexuses are retired, not terminated.Just saying...-- Roy Batty</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0141242.31071186</id>
	<title>Early Termination Fee</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265726400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I apologise in advance if this has already been discussed in previous stories:

An early termination fee is for the early termination of a contract. Now I only skim the contract that I signed when I just bought my smart phone (HTC Eris) with Verizon a few months ago but I don't recall a contract with google or HTC. Only Verizon. How can Google charge an ETF when I don't have a contract with them?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I apologise in advance if this has already been discussed in previous stories : An early termination fee is for the early termination of a contract .
Now I only skim the contract that I signed when I just bought my smart phone ( HTC Eris ) with Verizon a few months ago but I do n't recall a contract with google or HTC .
Only Verizon .
How can Google charge an ETF when I do n't have a contract with them ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I apologise in advance if this has already been discussed in previous stories:

An early termination fee is for the early termination of a contract.
Now I only skim the contract that I signed when I just bought my smart phone (HTC Eris) with Verizon a few months ago but I don't recall a contract with google or HTC.
Only Verizon.
How can Google charge an ETF when I don't have a contract with them?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0141242.31070104</id>
	<title>Re:Unbelievable</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265715300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, we have a saying for things like that: "You can't rape the willing."</p><p>Now, they can cry rape after the fact.  But, that's a wholly different psychological game.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , we have a saying for things like that : " You ca n't rape the willing .
" Now , they can cry rape after the fact .
But , that 's a wholly different psychological game .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, we have a saying for things like that: "You can't rape the willing.
"Now, they can cry rape after the fact.
But, that's a wholly different psychological game.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0141242.31069512</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0141242.31082626</id>
	<title>i usually stop reading articles and ads</title>
	<author>shnull</author>
	<datestamp>1265744760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>when the words 'termination fee' appear</htmltext>
<tokenext>when the words 'termination fee ' appear</tokentext>
<sentencetext>when the words 'termination fee' appear</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0141242.31090586</id>
	<title>termination fee on nexus phone</title>
	<author>suzieque</author>
	<datestamp>1265018340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not to appealing to get a contract, that is still quite a lot of money for early termination. The unlocked version seems like the monkey to go for as it looks a better deal. (Or have I missed something here?).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not to appealing to get a contract , that is still quite a lot of money for early termination .
The unlocked version seems like the monkey to go for as it looks a better deal .
( Or have I missed something here ?
) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not to appealing to get a contract, that is still quite a lot of money for early termination.
The unlocked version seems like the monkey to go for as it looks a better deal.
(Or have I missed something here?
).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0141242.31069564</id>
	<title>Wow, brilliant math strikes again</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265748900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>The price cut could add momentum to a phone that, by one reckoning, costs only $49 unlocked.</p></div></blockquote><p>Is this a new form of slashvertisement?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The price cut could add momentum to a phone that , by one reckoning , costs only $ 49 unlocked.Is this a new form of slashvertisement ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The price cut could add momentum to a phone that, by one reckoning, costs only $49 unlocked.Is this a new form of slashvertisement?
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0141242.31072240</id>
	<title>Re:Early Termination Fee</title>
	<author>dtzitz</author>
	<datestamp>1265731980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I was wrong, google is not billing this as an early termination fee. They are calling it an equipment recovery fee. I am set for my phone for the next two years (thank you $350 ETF from big red) but I would like to see someone challenge the new fee in court.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I was wrong , google is not billing this as an early termination fee .
They are calling it an equipment recovery fee .
I am set for my phone for the next two years ( thank you $ 350 ETF from big red ) but I would like to see someone challenge the new fee in court .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was wrong, google is not billing this as an early termination fee.
They are calling it an equipment recovery fee.
I am set for my phone for the next two years (thank you $350 ETF from big red) but I would like to see someone challenge the new fee in court.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0141242.31071186</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0141242.31070000</id>
	<title>Linus chose wrong</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265713560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Nokia N900 is better. It's got penguins. With <a href="http://maemo.nokia.com/" title="nokia.com" rel="nofollow">laser beams</a> [nokia.com].</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Nokia N900 is better .
It 's got penguins .
With laser beams [ nokia.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Nokia N900 is better.
It's got penguins.
With laser beams [nokia.com].</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0141242.31070172</id>
	<title>Adding Momentum??</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265716080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If Google/HTC really wanted to 'add momentum' to the sales of this phone, they should make it available outside the restricted area they sell it at the moment (and for a reasonable exchange rate). As it stands, the Milestone/Droid is currently the only Android 2.x phone available in continental europe (ok, taking aside shady imports at exorbitant prices).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If Google/HTC really wanted to 'add momentum ' to the sales of this phone , they should make it available outside the restricted area they sell it at the moment ( and for a reasonable exchange rate ) .
As it stands , the Milestone/Droid is currently the only Android 2.x phone available in continental europe ( ok , taking aside shady imports at exorbitant prices ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If Google/HTC really wanted to 'add momentum' to the sales of this phone, they should make it available outside the restricted area they sell it at the moment (and for a reasonable exchange rate).
As it stands, the Milestone/Droid is currently the only Android 2.x phone available in continental europe (ok, taking aside shady imports at exorbitant prices).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0141242.31072292</id>
	<title>Who is kdawson?</title>
	<author>cpotoso</author>
	<datestamp>1265732340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And why does he keep posting nonsense (like the $49 cost for the Nexus, seems kdawson uses the same accounting methods as wall-street) and gets approved for posting (two time in two days about the same nonsense)???   I know of lots of people (inc. myself) who proposed stories that were much less non-sensical than to claim that the phone costs $49 and these stories were not posted.  Who is reviewing these stories?  Is kdawson a slashdot insider?  Hell, if nonsense stories get approved like this, please cancel my "subscription" to slashdot!!!!!!</htmltext>
<tokenext>And why does he keep posting nonsense ( like the $ 49 cost for the Nexus , seems kdawson uses the same accounting methods as wall-street ) and gets approved for posting ( two time in two days about the same nonsense ) ? ? ?
I know of lots of people ( inc. myself ) who proposed stories that were much less non-sensical than to claim that the phone costs $ 49 and these stories were not posted .
Who is reviewing these stories ?
Is kdawson a slashdot insider ?
Hell , if nonsense stories get approved like this , please cancel my " subscription " to slashdot ! ! ! ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And why does he keep posting nonsense (like the $49 cost for the Nexus, seems kdawson uses the same accounting methods as wall-street) and gets approved for posting (two time in two days about the same nonsense)???
I know of lots of people (inc. myself) who proposed stories that were much less non-sensical than to claim that the phone costs $49 and these stories were not posted.
Who is reviewing these stories?
Is kdawson a slashdot insider?
Hell, if nonsense stories get approved like this, please cancel my "subscription" to slashdot!!!!!
!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0141242.31081572</id>
	<title>Embroidery designs</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265730900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Slashdot at its best!</p><p> <a href="http://www.eagledigitizing.com/" title="eagledigitizing.com" rel="nofollow">Digitizing</a> [eagledigitizing.com] </p><p> <a href="http://www.eagledigitizing.com/" title="eagledigitizing.com" rel="nofollow">Embroidery digitizing</a> [eagledigitizing.com] </p><p> <a href="http://www.eagledigitizing.com/" title="eagledigitizing.com" rel="nofollow">Embroidery designs</a> [eagledigitizing.com] </p><p> <a href="http://www.eagledigitizing.com/" title="eagledigitizing.com" rel="nofollow">Embroidery design</a> [eagledigitizing.com] </p><p> <a href="http://www.coolprototyping.com/" title="coolprototyping.com" rel="nofollow">Rapid prototyping</a> [coolprototyping.com] </p><p> <a href="http://www.coolprototyping.com/" title="coolprototyping.com" rel="nofollow">Custom molds</a> [coolprototyping.com] </p><p> <a href="http://www.coolprototyping.com/" title="coolprototyping.com" rel="nofollow">Plastic molds</a> [coolprototyping.com] </p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Slashdot at its best !
Digitizing [ eagledigitizing.com ] Embroidery digitizing [ eagledigitizing.com ] Embroidery designs [ eagledigitizing.com ] Embroidery design [ eagledigitizing.com ] Rapid prototyping [ coolprototyping.com ] Custom molds [ coolprototyping.com ] Plastic molds [ coolprototyping.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Slashdot at its best!
Digitizing [eagledigitizing.com]  Embroidery digitizing [eagledigitizing.com]  Embroidery designs [eagledigitizing.com]  Embroidery design [eagledigitizing.com]  Rapid prototyping [coolprototyping.com]  Custom molds [coolprototyping.com]  Plastic molds [coolprototyping.com] </sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0141242.31070876</id>
	<title>Re:Get Real</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265724180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>  Incidentally, both reckonings are fallacious.</p></div><p>Hey, we don't tolerate that kind of language. Wash your mouth soap. Oh, wait, that is not how you spell <b>that</b>? Ok, never mind.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Incidentally , both reckonings are fallacious.Hey , we do n't tolerate that kind of language .
Wash your mouth soap .
Oh , wait , that is not how you spell that ?
Ok , never mind .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>  Incidentally, both reckonings are fallacious.Hey, we don't tolerate that kind of language.
Wash your mouth soap.
Oh, wait, that is not how you spell that?
Ok, never mind.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0141242.31069750</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0141242.31069992</id>
	<title>Re:Dont be...</title>
	<author>JackieBrown</author>
	<datestamp>1265713380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Personally, I am waiting for the phone that is subsidized by non-obtrusive, relevant advertising.</p></div><p>It will be interesting.  I am waiting for the phone that pauses my call to tell me that I am about to pass best buy who is having sales! sales! sales!</p><p>I better keep it away from my wife who bases how well she does shopping by how much she "saves" thanks to deals (whether or not it is something she needs - or really even wants.)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Personally , I am waiting for the phone that is subsidized by non-obtrusive , relevant advertising.It will be interesting .
I am waiting for the phone that pauses my call to tell me that I am about to pass best buy who is having sales !
sales ! sales ! I better keep it away from my wife who bases how well she does shopping by how much she " saves " thanks to deals ( whether or not it is something she needs - or really even wants .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Personally, I am waiting for the phone that is subsidized by non-obtrusive, relevant advertising.It will be interesting.
I am waiting for the phone that pauses my call to tell me that I am about to pass best buy who is having sales!
sales! sales!I better keep it away from my wife who bases how well she does shopping by how much she "saves" thanks to deals (whether or not it is something she needs - or really even wants.
)
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0141242.31069800</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0141242.31069512</id>
	<title>Unbelievable</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265748240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>First post!</p><p>I find it hard to believe the population of the US puts up with this utter crap called early termination fees. In much of the rest of the civilized world, this is likely illegal. Here in Finland, such fees would have to be clearly indicated to the consumer in the final price of the device, and cannot be hidden deep in contract terms.</p><p>Once again, US consumers are getting screwed over by their corporate overlords while the government sits by and does nothing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>First post ! I find it hard to believe the population of the US puts up with this utter crap called early termination fees .
In much of the rest of the civilized world , this is likely illegal .
Here in Finland , such fees would have to be clearly indicated to the consumer in the final price of the device , and can not be hidden deep in contract terms.Once again , US consumers are getting screwed over by their corporate overlords while the government sits by and does nothing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>First post!I find it hard to believe the population of the US puts up with this utter crap called early termination fees.
In much of the rest of the civilized world, this is likely illegal.
Here in Finland, such fees would have to be clearly indicated to the consumer in the final price of the device, and cannot be hidden deep in contract terms.Once again, US consumers are getting screwed over by their corporate overlords while the government sits by and does nothing.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0141242.31069594</id>
	<title>Re:Slashvertisement at its best</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265706060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Parent is not a troll, Korbeau is merely stating the obvious.</p><p>The $49 price is not the real price, but the difference between doing it one way, and doing it a different way, both with HORRIBLE subscription prices by european standards.</p><p>Early termination fees are a JOKE, especially with a size like that.<br>This whole story reeks of someone lacking their sense of judgement or deliberately ignoring it.</p><p>Yes, teH Nexus One is a nice phone, but<br>A: it's not that cheap<br>B: it's not a jesus phone (neither was the iPhone)<br>C: this is neither the first or second story about it these last few days.</p><p>anyway. imo, parent is not  a troll</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Parent is not a troll , Korbeau is merely stating the obvious.The $ 49 price is not the real price , but the difference between doing it one way , and doing it a different way , both with HORRIBLE subscription prices by european standards.Early termination fees are a JOKE , especially with a size like that.This whole story reeks of someone lacking their sense of judgement or deliberately ignoring it.Yes , teH Nexus One is a nice phone , butA : it 's not that cheapB : it 's not a jesus phone ( neither was the iPhone ) C : this is neither the first or second story about it these last few days.anyway .
imo , parent is not a troll</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Parent is not a troll, Korbeau is merely stating the obvious.The $49 price is not the real price, but the difference between doing it one way, and doing it a different way, both with HORRIBLE subscription prices by european standards.Early termination fees are a JOKE, especially with a size like that.This whole story reeks of someone lacking their sense of judgement or deliberately ignoring it.Yes, teH Nexus One is a nice phone, butA: it's not that cheapB: it's not a jesus phone (neither was the iPhone)C: this is neither the first or second story about it these last few days.anyway.
imo, parent is not  a troll</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0141242.31071332</id>
	<title>Great way to make money</title>
	<author>cbreak</author>
	<datestamp>1265727240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just buy a lot of Nexi Ones for 49$, and sell them for material price! I am going to be rich!</p><p>I didn't expect google of all companies to be braindead enough to subsidize unlocked phones...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just buy a lot of Nexi Ones for 49 $ , and sell them for material price !
I am going to be rich ! I did n't expect google of all companies to be braindead enough to subsidize unlocked phones.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just buy a lot of Nexi Ones for 49$, and sell them for material price!
I am going to be rich!I didn't expect google of all companies to be braindead enough to subsidize unlocked phones...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0141242.31069850</id>
	<title>Will you please stop the dishonest shilling?</title>
	<author>VShael</author>
	<datestamp>1265710560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's one thing to have a story/advertisement, it's another to blatantly lie in it.</p><p>The bullshit statistic of the $49 dollar unlocked version was ably debunked in the comments of the last story where this was claimed.</p><p>Please stop doing it. When you're caught in a blatant lie, you don't repeat it unless you are also an idiot.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's one thing to have a story/advertisement , it 's another to blatantly lie in it.The bullshit statistic of the $ 49 dollar unlocked version was ably debunked in the comments of the last story where this was claimed.Please stop doing it .
When you 're caught in a blatant lie , you do n't repeat it unless you are also an idiot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's one thing to have a story/advertisement, it's another to blatantly lie in it.The bullshit statistic of the $49 dollar unlocked version was ably debunked in the comments of the last story where this was claimed.Please stop doing it.
When you're caught in a blatant lie, you don't repeat it unless you are also an idiot.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0141242.31069754</id>
	<title>Stop saying it costs $49.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265708820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That (1) makes you look stupid, and (2) repeats advertising.</p><p>Of course, this is pretty much the default with kdawson.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That ( 1 ) makes you look stupid , and ( 2 ) repeats advertising.Of course , this is pretty much the default with kdawson .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That (1) makes you look stupid, and (2) repeats advertising.Of course, this is pretty much the default with kdawson.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0141242.31069558</id>
	<title>Re:Slashvertisement at its best</title>
	<author>skine</author>
	<datestamp>1265748840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, I don't think you get it at all.</p><p>If it's Mobile, Apple, Your Rights or Idle, we're supposed to be angry.</p><p>Everything else has the potential to still be up to rational debate.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , I do n't think you get it at all.If it 's Mobile , Apple , Your Rights or Idle , we 're supposed to be angry.Everything else has the potential to still be up to rational debate .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, I don't think you get it at all.If it's Mobile, Apple, Your Rights or Idle, we're supposed to be angry.Everything else has the potential to still be up to rational debate.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0141242.31070066</id>
	<title>Wow, an ETF that adds up</title>
	<author>irockash</author>
	<datestamp>1265714820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Looking at the <a href="https://www.google.com/phone/choose?locale=en\_US&amp;s7e=" title="google.com" rel="nofollow">Google site</a> [google.com], the phone costs $179 if you sign up with a T-Mobile plan. So if you cancel, you're out the $179 + $150 from Google, + $200 from T-Mobile... which brings the price to $529, which coincidentally, is the unlocked price of the phone.

You are at a loss, however, of how many months you had the service before canceling (with T-Mobile's current discount for not subsidizing the device).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Looking at the Google site [ google.com ] , the phone costs $ 179 if you sign up with a T-Mobile plan .
So if you cancel , you 're out the $ 179 + $ 150 from Google , + $ 200 from T-Mobile... which brings the price to $ 529 , which coincidentally , is the unlocked price of the phone .
You are at a loss , however , of how many months you had the service before canceling ( with T-Mobile 's current discount for not subsidizing the device ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Looking at the Google site [google.com], the phone costs $179 if you sign up with a T-Mobile plan.
So if you cancel, you're out the $179 + $150 from Google, + $200 from T-Mobile... which brings the price to $529, which coincidentally, is the unlocked price of the phone.
You are at a loss, however, of how many months you had the service before canceling (with T-Mobile's current discount for not subsidizing the device).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0141242.31069510</id>
	<title>Slashvertisement at its best</title>
	<author>Korbeau</author>
	<datestamp>1265748180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Linking to an article mentioning Linus and an older advertisement, with a tiny bit of new information (a 200$ cut because of an about-to-be ruling by the FCC), that overall shows Google in a positive light.  With clumsy maths at the end.</p><p>Slashdot at its best!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Linking to an article mentioning Linus and an older advertisement , with a tiny bit of new information ( a 200 $ cut because of an about-to-be ruling by the FCC ) , that overall shows Google in a positive light .
With clumsy maths at the end.Slashdot at its best !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Linking to an article mentioning Linus and an older advertisement, with a tiny bit of new information (a 200$ cut because of an about-to-be ruling by the FCC), that overall shows Google in a positive light.
With clumsy maths at the end.Slashdot at its best!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0141242.31070034</id>
	<title>Not that bad.</title>
	<author>Myion</author>
	<datestamp>1265714340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Initial ETF for iPhone 3G in my country (Latvia) is what would be around $570</htmltext>
<tokenext>Initial ETF for iPhone 3G in my country ( Latvia ) is what would be around $ 570</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Initial ETF for iPhone 3G in my country (Latvia) is what would be around $570</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_09_0141242.31070146</id>
	<title>It's not the restocking fee that gets you...</title>
	<author>jafo</author>
	<datestamp>1265715780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>In November we got a bunch of G1s and then decided at the last minute we wanted to get the Droid instead.  The restocking fee from T-Mobile was quite reasonable, I think around $10/phone.  Then a few months later we got a bill for $50/line for the activation fee.  I'm not really unhappy with the cost of canceling the service, we like the Droid much better than the G1 (it's just a much newer phone).  It was just kind of surprising to get another $350 bill after I thought it was all taken care of.<br><br>Sean</htmltext>
<tokenext>In November we got a bunch of G1s and then decided at the last minute we wanted to get the Droid instead .
The restocking fee from T-Mobile was quite reasonable , I think around $ 10/phone .
Then a few months later we got a bill for $ 50/line for the activation fee .
I 'm not really unhappy with the cost of canceling the service , we like the Droid much better than the G1 ( it 's just a much newer phone ) .
It was just kind of surprising to get another $ 350 bill after I thought it was all taken care of.Sean</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In November we got a bunch of G1s and then decided at the last minute we wanted to get the Droid instead.
The restocking fee from T-Mobile was quite reasonable, I think around $10/phone.
Then a few months later we got a bill for $50/line for the activation fee.
I'm not really unhappy with the cost of canceling the service, we like the Droid much better than the G1 (it's just a much newer phone).
It was just kind of surprising to get another $350 bill after I thought it was all taken care of.Sean</sentencetext>
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