<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_02_03_1519232</id>
	<title>Eight PHP IDEs Compared</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1265211120000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.infoworld.com/" rel="nofollow">snydeq</a> writes <i>"InfoWorld's Rick Grehen provides an <a href="http://www.infoworld.com/d/developer-world/infoworld-review-eight-php-power-tools-737">in-depth comparative review of eight PHP IDEs</a>: ActiveState's Komodo IDE, CodeLobster PHP Edition, Eclipse PHP Development Tools (PDT), MPSoftware's phpDesigner, NetBeans IDE for PHP, NuSphere's PhpED, WaterProof's PHPEdit, and Zend Studio. 'All of these PHP toolkits offer strong support for the other languages and environments (HTML, CSS, JavaScript, SQL database) that a PHP developer encounters. The key differences we discovered were in the tools they provide (HTML inspector, SQL management system) for various tasks, the quality of their documentation, and general ease-of-use,' Grehen writes.'"</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>snydeq writes " InfoWorld 's Rick Grehen provides an in-depth comparative review of eight PHP IDEs : ActiveState 's Komodo IDE , CodeLobster PHP Edition , Eclipse PHP Development Tools ( PDT ) , MPSoftware 's phpDesigner , NetBeans IDE for PHP , NuSphere 's PhpED , WaterProof 's PHPEdit , and Zend Studio .
'All of these PHP toolkits offer strong support for the other languages and environments ( HTML , CSS , JavaScript , SQL database ) that a PHP developer encounters .
The key differences we discovered were in the tools they provide ( HTML inspector , SQL management system ) for various tasks , the quality of their documentation , and general ease-of-use, ' Grehen writes .
' "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>snydeq writes "InfoWorld's Rick Grehen provides an in-depth comparative review of eight PHP IDEs: ActiveState's Komodo IDE, CodeLobster PHP Edition, Eclipse PHP Development Tools (PDT), MPSoftware's phpDesigner, NetBeans IDE for PHP, NuSphere's PhpED, WaterProof's PHPEdit, and Zend Studio.
'All of these PHP toolkits offer strong support for the other languages and environments (HTML, CSS, JavaScript, SQL database) that a PHP developer encounters.
The key differences we discovered were in the tools they provide (HTML inspector, SQL management system) for various tasks, the quality of their documentation, and general ease-of-use,' Grehen writes.
'"</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31011270</id>
	<title>Re:IDE?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264959420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I was told years ago real web programmers use notepad.

I am a hobbyist PHP guy, but been doing it alot at work for the company website, perhaps it is time to move away from gedit (they have a windows version) and onto something else,</htmltext>
<tokenext>I was told years ago real web programmers use notepad .
I am a hobbyist PHP guy , but been doing it alot at work for the company website , perhaps it is time to move away from gedit ( they have a windows version ) and onto something else,</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was told years ago real web programmers use notepad.
I am a hobbyist PHP guy, but been doing it alot at work for the company website, perhaps it is time to move away from gedit (they have a windows version) and onto something else,</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31011574</id>
	<title>Re:VHS, x86, Microsoft Windows</title>
	<author>toastar</author>
	<datestamp>1264960500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So they have Eclipse but Not Dreamweaver?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So they have Eclipse but Not Dreamweaver ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So they have Eclipse but Not Dreamweaver?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010368</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31011136</id>
	<title>Re:vim/EMACS?</title>
	<author>TheCycoONE</author>
	<datestamp>1264958880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Vim came out, and vi users switched over?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Vim came out , and vi users switched over ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Vim came out, and vi users switched over?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010988</id>
	<title>Re:what i'd like in an IDE</title>
	<author>dafdaf</author>
	<datestamp>1264958280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Eclipse (PDT), Zend IDE and Netbeans can debug local and remotely. We're just evaluating our future PHP-IDE, so the article comes in handy.
The only thing missing: It seems that the Zend IDE is the only solution providing an easy to use profiling tool for PHP.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Eclipse ( PDT ) , Zend IDE and Netbeans can debug local and remotely .
We 're just evaluating our future PHP-IDE , so the article comes in handy .
The only thing missing : It seems that the Zend IDE is the only solution providing an easy to use profiling tool for PHP .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Eclipse (PDT), Zend IDE and Netbeans can debug local and remotely.
We're just evaluating our future PHP-IDE, so the article comes in handy.
The only thing missing: It seems that the Zend IDE is the only solution providing an easy to use profiling tool for PHP.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31011014</id>
	<title>Re:PHP is cross-platform</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264958400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>People who don't want to recompile their kernel, and edit their x config with a command just to get their video card to work mostly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>People who do n't want to recompile their kernel , and edit their x config with a command just to get their video card to work mostly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People who don't want to recompile their kernel, and edit their x config with a command just to get their video card to work mostly.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010368</id>
	<title>VHS, x86, Microsoft Windows</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264956120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How is it that when given a set of options, the majority of users will select the worst possible one?</p><p>They didn't review Notepad, but I would wager that it is pretty well used by a majority of PHP "developers"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How is it that when given a set of options , the majority of users will select the worst possible one ? They did n't review Notepad , but I would wager that it is pretty well used by a majority of PHP " developers "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How is it that when given a set of options, the majority of users will select the worst possible one?They didn't review Notepad, but I would wager that it is pretty well used by a majority of PHP "developers"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31011096</id>
	<title>Re:vim/EMACS?</title>
	<author>LS1 Brains</author>
	<datestamp>1264958700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I hear ya.  I have partially succeeded over the years in getting myself to use a more point-and-click style editor, but I keep falling back to vim.  Old habits die hard, and it often seems easier to just pull off a<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:\%s/something/else/g than Ctrl+H, [something], tab, [else] tab, Alt+A, Enter, Escape.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I hear ya .
I have partially succeeded over the years in getting myself to use a more point-and-click style editor , but I keep falling back to vim .
Old habits die hard , and it often seems easier to just pull off a : \ % s/something/else/g than Ctrl + H , [ something ] , tab , [ else ] tab , Alt + A , Enter , Escape .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hear ya.
I have partially succeeded over the years in getting myself to use a more point-and-click style editor, but I keep falling back to vim.
Old habits die hard, and it often seems easier to just pull off a :\%s/something/else/g than Ctrl+H, [something], tab, [else] tab, Alt+A, Enter, Escape.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010744</id>
	<title>huh?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264957440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Komodo has been doing that for years and I'm sure the others do too. You need to read up on xdebug. You're talking about line-by-line debugging. I'm almost wondering whether this is post bait...</p><p>look up "xdebug remote debugging" in google</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Komodo has been doing that for years and I 'm sure the others do too .
You need to read up on xdebug .
You 're talking about line-by-line debugging .
I 'm almost wondering whether this is post bait...look up " xdebug remote debugging " in google</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Komodo has been doing that for years and I'm sure the others do too.
You need to read up on xdebug.
You're talking about line-by-line debugging.
I'm almost wondering whether this is post bait...look up "xdebug remote debugging" in google</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31014738</id>
	<title>Re:PHP is cross-platform</title>
	<author>thetoadwarrior</author>
	<datestamp>1264931820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I had to do that once like 5+ years ago. Other than that Ubuntu has always been just as easy to use as Windows. Often better in my opinion thanks to the package manager.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I had to do that once like 5 + years ago .
Other than that Ubuntu has always been just as easy to use as Windows .
Often better in my opinion thanks to the package manager .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I had to do that once like 5+ years ago.
Other than that Ubuntu has always been just as easy to use as Windows.
Often better in my opinion thanks to the package manager.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31011014</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010500</id>
	<title>PHP is cross-platform</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264956600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>PHP is cross-platform. Who the hell develops on Windows on purpose?</htmltext>
<tokenext>PHP is cross-platform .
Who the hell develops on Windows on purpose ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>PHP is cross-platform.
Who the hell develops on Windows on purpose?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31011474</id>
	<title>Re:Do any of them assess performance?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264960080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I do most of my work in PHP and to be honest, I very rarely have to worry about the performance of PHP code itself.  Most of the performance bottlenecks at the database, especially when some developers choose to pull back 100,000 rows in order to show you 20 of them.  I'm not sure how an IDE could detect this type of abuse when analyzing code for performance.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do most of my work in PHP and to be honest , I very rarely have to worry about the performance of PHP code itself .
Most of the performance bottlenecks at the database , especially when some developers choose to pull back 100,000 rows in order to show you 20 of them .
I 'm not sure how an IDE could detect this type of abuse when analyzing code for performance .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I do most of my work in PHP and to be honest, I very rarely have to worry about the performance of PHP code itself.
Most of the performance bottlenecks at the database, especially when some developers choose to pull back 100,000 rows in order to show you 20 of them.
I'm not sure how an IDE could detect this type of abuse when analyzing code for performance.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010350</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31016156</id>
	<title>gedit.</title>
	<author>TheSpoom</author>
	<datestamp>1264938300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Linux (Gnome) + gedit + gvfs.</p><p>It's Notepad, plus text-colouring, plus automatic tabbing, plus most features of a good code editor (I believe you can get plugins for automatic syntax completion and such), minus the need to upload anything since you just access FTP / SFTP / WebDAV servers directly as if they were on the local filesystem.</p><p>Plus, it's completely free in both senses of the term.</p><p>If forced to use Windows or it happens to be more convenient, Windows + Notepad++ + <a href="http://www.webdrive.com/" title="webdrive.com">WebDrive</a> [webdrive.com], which mostly replicates the functionality of gvfs (making an FTP server a Windows drive).  It works decently but I still prefer gedit to np++.</p><p>I work primarily as a PHP web app developer.  I don't need any WYSIWYG stuff generally.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Linux ( Gnome ) + gedit + gvfs.It 's Notepad , plus text-colouring , plus automatic tabbing , plus most features of a good code editor ( I believe you can get plugins for automatic syntax completion and such ) , minus the need to upload anything since you just access FTP / SFTP / WebDAV servers directly as if they were on the local filesystem.Plus , it 's completely free in both senses of the term.If forced to use Windows or it happens to be more convenient , Windows + Notepad + + + WebDrive [ webdrive.com ] , which mostly replicates the functionality of gvfs ( making an FTP server a Windows drive ) .
It works decently but I still prefer gedit to np + + .I work primarily as a PHP web app developer .
I do n't need any WYSIWYG stuff generally .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Linux (Gnome) + gedit + gvfs.It's Notepad, plus text-colouring, plus automatic tabbing, plus most features of a good code editor (I believe you can get plugins for automatic syntax completion and such), minus the need to upload anything since you just access FTP / SFTP / WebDAV servers directly as if they were on the local filesystem.Plus, it's completely free in both senses of the term.If forced to use Windows or it happens to be more convenient, Windows + Notepad++ + WebDrive [webdrive.com], which mostly replicates the functionality of gvfs (making an FTP server a Windows drive).
It works decently but I still prefer gedit to np++.I work primarily as a PHP web app developer.
I don't need any WYSIWYG stuff generally.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31012094</id>
	<title>No Adobe?</title>
	<author>elecmahm</author>
	<datestamp>1264962420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I know that Dreamweaver wouldn't be a "traditional" IDE -- but PHP isn't a traditional language either.  Dreamweaver can do PHP, JavaScript, HTML / CSS, etc. -- does color coding, code suggestions / "intellisense", and is project-oriented.

I enjoy using Eclipse for GWT, Java, Python, (and even for PHP too), but at work, using Dreamweaver is just easier. The article summary made no mention of using strictly FOSS, so was there a reason to exclude DW?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I know that Dreamweaver would n't be a " traditional " IDE -- but PHP is n't a traditional language either .
Dreamweaver can do PHP , JavaScript , HTML / CSS , etc .
-- does color coding , code suggestions / " intellisense " , and is project-oriented .
I enjoy using Eclipse for GWT , Java , Python , ( and even for PHP too ) , but at work , using Dreamweaver is just easier .
The article summary made no mention of using strictly FOSS , so was there a reason to exclude DW ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know that Dreamweaver wouldn't be a "traditional" IDE -- but PHP isn't a traditional language either.
Dreamweaver can do PHP, JavaScript, HTML / CSS, etc.
-- does color coding, code suggestions / "intellisense", and is project-oriented.
I enjoy using Eclipse for GWT, Java, Python, (and even for PHP too), but at work, using Dreamweaver is just easier.
The article summary made no mention of using strictly FOSS, so was there a reason to exclude DW?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31011718</id>
	<title>KWrite</title>
	<author>TheNinjaroach</author>
	<datestamp>1264961040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I write PHP every day and I get by very well with KWrite.  KDE let's me seamlessly edit remote files over FTP or SSH and KWrite is lightweight but offers a surprising amount of features.  It has some pretty awesome syntax highlighting that changes its color coding between PHP blocks, Javascript, style sheets and HTML with remarkable accuracy.<br> <br>I've used Zend Studio (pre-Eclipse) and Eclipse PDT.  I like some of the features such as the way they assist with function parameters and the built in PHP documentation, but other features aren't so nice and cause way too much interference with what I type. Ultimately, it lacks the seamless integration of my KDE environment and is a pain for editing remote files so I always end up going back to KWrite.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I write PHP every day and I get by very well with KWrite .
KDE let 's me seamlessly edit remote files over FTP or SSH and KWrite is lightweight but offers a surprising amount of features .
It has some pretty awesome syntax highlighting that changes its color coding between PHP blocks , Javascript , style sheets and HTML with remarkable accuracy .
I 've used Zend Studio ( pre-Eclipse ) and Eclipse PDT .
I like some of the features such as the way they assist with function parameters and the built in PHP documentation , but other features are n't so nice and cause way too much interference with what I type .
Ultimately , it lacks the seamless integration of my KDE environment and is a pain for editing remote files so I always end up going back to KWrite .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I write PHP every day and I get by very well with KWrite.
KDE let's me seamlessly edit remote files over FTP or SSH and KWrite is lightweight but offers a surprising amount of features.
It has some pretty awesome syntax highlighting that changes its color coding between PHP blocks, Javascript, style sheets and HTML with remarkable accuracy.
I've used Zend Studio (pre-Eclipse) and Eclipse PDT.
I like some of the features such as the way they assist with function parameters and the built in PHP documentation, but other features aren't so nice and cause way too much interference with what I type.
Ultimately, it lacks the seamless integration of my KDE environment and is a pain for editing remote files so I always end up going back to KWrite.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31014816</id>
	<title>Aptana</title>
	<author>TigerTime</author>
	<datestamp>1264932420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You should try downloading Eclipse and then go to www.aptana.com and install their Studio Plugin. It is a complete web development toolkit and has built in FTP/SFTP as well as a file browser so that you can edit files on your computer without having to create a project first. Code highlighting and completion for HTML/JS/CSS as well as other file types</p><p>Be sure to download the Eclipse that has Mylyn builtin so that you have your task list at hand to check off and track what you need to work on.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You should try downloading Eclipse and then go to www.aptana.com and install their Studio Plugin .
It is a complete web development toolkit and has built in FTP/SFTP as well as a file browser so that you can edit files on your computer without having to create a project first .
Code highlighting and completion for HTML/JS/CSS as well as other file typesBe sure to download the Eclipse that has Mylyn builtin so that you have your task list at hand to check off and track what you need to work on .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You should try downloading Eclipse and then go to www.aptana.com and install their Studio Plugin.
It is a complete web development toolkit and has built in FTP/SFTP as well as a file browser so that you can edit files on your computer without having to create a project first.
Code highlighting and completion for HTML/JS/CSS as well as other file typesBe sure to download the Eclipse that has Mylyn builtin so that you have your task list at hand to check off and track what you need to work on.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010842</id>
	<title>I'm pretty over IDEs</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264957920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Aside from using XCode, I pretty much never use IDEs, especially for web development. I just use <a href="http://macromates.com/" title="macromates.com">TextMate</a> [macromates.com] for anything not in XCode (and I even edit a lot of C/C++/Obj-C in XCode nowadays, and other apps for performance, testing, etc. (or write TextMate commands to run external commands).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Aside from using XCode , I pretty much never use IDEs , especially for web development .
I just use TextMate [ macromates.com ] for anything not in XCode ( and I even edit a lot of C/C + + /Obj-C in XCode nowadays , and other apps for performance , testing , etc .
( or write TextMate commands to run external commands ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Aside from using XCode, I pretty much never use IDEs, especially for web development.
I just use TextMate [macromates.com] for anything not in XCode (and I even edit a lot of C/C++/Obj-C in XCode nowadays, and other apps for performance, testing, etc.
(or write TextMate commands to run external commands).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31023168</id>
	<title>Re:I'm pretty over IDEs</title>
	<author>fusiongyro</author>
	<datestamp>1265303160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not to be a shill, but you might want to try Coda for PHP. On my Mac I use TextMate for damn near everything else, but Coda is just a really nice, well-integrated experience for PHP. It manages projects on a site-by-site basis which keeps things simpler for me, understands having a local and a remote copy, doesn't mind editing stuff right on the server over SFTP (probably WebDAV too, but I haven't tried it), and has integrated documentation for PHP. I bought it on a whim and found myself quite addicted to it for PHP.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not to be a shill , but you might want to try Coda for PHP .
On my Mac I use TextMate for damn near everything else , but Coda is just a really nice , well-integrated experience for PHP .
It manages projects on a site-by-site basis which keeps things simpler for me , understands having a local and a remote copy , does n't mind editing stuff right on the server over SFTP ( probably WebDAV too , but I have n't tried it ) , and has integrated documentation for PHP .
I bought it on a whim and found myself quite addicted to it for PHP .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not to be a shill, but you might want to try Coda for PHP.
On my Mac I use TextMate for damn near everything else, but Coda is just a really nice, well-integrated experience for PHP.
It manages projects on a site-by-site basis which keeps things simpler for me, understands having a local and a remote copy, doesn't mind editing stuff right on the server over SFTP (probably WebDAV too, but I haven't tried it), and has integrated documentation for PHP.
I bought it on a whim and found myself quite addicted to it for PHP.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31011134</id>
	<title>Re:vim/EMACS?</title>
	<author>gmuslera</author>
	<datestamp>1264958880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Probably vi/vim thru ssh plus a web browser for testing/googling/docs and shell utilities has been my IDE for perl/php/bash for years (at least if it qualifies at IDE), and emacs would not be a bad alternative neither</htmltext>
<tokenext>Probably vi/vim thru ssh plus a web browser for testing/googling/docs and shell utilities has been my IDE for perl/php/bash for years ( at least if it qualifies at IDE ) , and emacs would not be a bad alternative neither</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Probably vi/vim thru ssh plus a web browser for testing/googling/docs and shell utilities has been my IDE for perl/php/bash for years (at least if it qualifies at IDE), and emacs would not be a bad alternative neither</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010908</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010986</id>
	<title>IDE?</title>
	<author>Spyware23</author>
	<datestamp>1264958280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What's wrong with using vim/notepad++, links, and perhaps a self-refreshing firefox tab open on a second monitor/desktop?</p><p>I have developed and worked on many (PHP powered) websites in my life, and never felt the need for some big IDE. Although I do have to admit I did this as an amateur, not as an employed web dev.</p><p>Also, people mocking Notepad++, you are probably not aware of it's (mostly plugin-based) features. It has plugins for ftp, svn and cvs, for example.</p><p>Like I said, never felt the need to use a big IDE, and I don't understand why others do.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What 's wrong with using vim/notepad + + , links , and perhaps a self-refreshing firefox tab open on a second monitor/desktop ? I have developed and worked on many ( PHP powered ) websites in my life , and never felt the need for some big IDE .
Although I do have to admit I did this as an amateur , not as an employed web dev.Also , people mocking Notepad + + , you are probably not aware of it 's ( mostly plugin-based ) features .
It has plugins for ftp , svn and cvs , for example.Like I said , never felt the need to use a big IDE , and I do n't understand why others do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What's wrong with using vim/notepad++, links, and perhaps a self-refreshing firefox tab open on a second monitor/desktop?I have developed and worked on many (PHP powered) websites in my life, and never felt the need for some big IDE.
Although I do have to admit I did this as an amateur, not as an employed web dev.Also, people mocking Notepad++, you are probably not aware of it's (mostly plugin-based) features.
It has plugins for ftp, svn and cvs, for example.Like I said, never felt the need to use a big IDE, and I don't understand why others do.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31012284</id>
	<title>Visual Studio</title>
	<author>darkain</author>
	<datestamp>1264963080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I gotta say, after working with Visual Studio for so damn long in C++ and Visual Basic (starting all the way back with VB3), it was only natural for me to use the IDE I'm most familiar with for PHP.  Nowadays, there are some pretty damn good add-ons for Visual Studio to help out with the workflow of PHP development.  Having SVN integration is another major plus for VS.

I will honestly admit I've tried to tinker with other IDE sollutions, but its just a mental pain in the ass to convert yourself over after 13+ years of working with the specific intricies of one particular product, such as menu placement and keyboard shortcuts.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I got ta say , after working with Visual Studio for so damn long in C + + and Visual Basic ( starting all the way back with VB3 ) , it was only natural for me to use the IDE I 'm most familiar with for PHP .
Nowadays , there are some pretty damn good add-ons for Visual Studio to help out with the workflow of PHP development .
Having SVN integration is another major plus for VS . I will honestly admit I 've tried to tinker with other IDE sollutions , but its just a mental pain in the ass to convert yourself over after 13 + years of working with the specific intricies of one particular product , such as menu placement and keyboard shortcuts .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I gotta say, after working with Visual Studio for so damn long in C++ and Visual Basic (starting all the way back with VB3), it was only natural for me to use the IDE I'm most familiar with for PHP.
Nowadays, there are some pretty damn good add-ons for Visual Studio to help out with the workflow of PHP development.
Having SVN integration is another major plus for VS.

I will honestly admit I've tried to tinker with other IDE sollutions, but its just a mental pain in the ass to convert yourself over after 13+ years of working with the specific intricies of one particular product, such as menu placement and keyboard shortcuts.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31011160</id>
	<title>Re:PHP is cross-platform</title>
	<author>ianare</author>
	<datestamp>1264958940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Masochists.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Masochists .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Masochists.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010500</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31012064</id>
	<title>UltraEdit</title>
	<author>frizzantik</author>
	<datestamp>1264962360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Been using it for years and years.  No debugger but oh well.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Been using it for years and years .
No debugger but oh well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Been using it for years and years.
No debugger but oh well.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010926</id>
	<title>why not</title>
	<author>hellraizer</author>
	<datestamp>1264958160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>vi or even emacs<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:D</htmltext>
<tokenext>vi or even emacs : D</tokentext>
<sentencetext>vi or even emacs :D</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31011516</id>
	<title>Re:PHP is cross-platform</title>
	<author>Galactic Dominator</author>
	<datestamp>1264960200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>wow, seems like a lot of pain to avoid:</p><p>X -configure</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>wow , seems like a lot of pain to avoid : X -configure</tokentext>
<sentencetext>wow, seems like a lot of pain to avoid:X -configure</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31011014</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010804</id>
	<title>Re:what i'd like in an IDE</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264957740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Try using Eclipse PDT along with Xdebug, it gives you all the debugging features you mention and more.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Try using Eclipse PDT along with Xdebug , it gives you all the debugging features you mention and more .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Try using Eclipse PDT along with Xdebug, it gives you all the debugging features you mention and more.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010470</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31012540</id>
	<title>Re:vim/EMACS?</title>
	<author>Ant P.</author>
	<datestamp>1264964220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It doesn't count as an "IDE" unless the code pane is 120x100px when the window's fullscreen and opening the program requires a splash screen.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It does n't count as an " IDE " unless the code pane is 120x100px when the window 's fullscreen and opening the program requires a splash screen .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It doesn't count as an "IDE" unless the code pane is 120x100px when the window's fullscreen and opening the program requires a splash screen.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010908</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31012554</id>
	<title>Re:VHS, x86, Microsoft Windows</title>
	<author>musicalmicah</author>
	<datestamp>1264964220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think they didn't review Notepad because it's not an <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated\_development\_environment" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">integrated development environment</a> [wikipedia.org].</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think they did n't review Notepad because it 's not an integrated development environment [ wikipedia.org ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think they didn't review Notepad because it's not an integrated development environment [wikipedia.org].</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010368</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31012612</id>
	<title>Google ads is a little off</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264964520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> <b>Eclipse</b><br>The 2010 Eclipse - Equipped with 263-horsepower MIVEC V6.<br>www.MitsubishiCars.com</p></div></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>EclipseThe 2010 Eclipse - Equipped with 263-horsepower MIVEC V6.www.MitsubishiCars.com</tokentext>
<sentencetext> EclipseThe 2010 Eclipse - Equipped with 263-horsepower MIVEC V6.www.MitsubishiCars.com
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31011182</id>
	<title>Re:Eclipse PDT?</title>
	<author>ionix5891</author>
	<datestamp>1264959060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>same here im still on Zend 5.5</p><p>new Zend based on Eclipse and Eclipse PDT and Netbeans are just to "slow" and i have a nice workstation</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>same here im still on Zend 5.5new Zend based on Eclipse and Eclipse PDT and Netbeans are just to " slow " and i have a nice workstation</tokentext>
<sentencetext>same here im still on Zend 5.5new Zend based on Eclipse and Eclipse PDT and Netbeans are just to "slow" and i have a nice workstation</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010480</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31014448</id>
	<title>Aptana not considered?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264930440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I personally find Aptana Studio the best IDE for web related development (php/js/html/css).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I personally find Aptana Studio the best IDE for web related development ( php/js/html/css ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I personally find Aptana Studio the best IDE for web related development (php/js/html/css).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31012970</id>
	<title>Re:I'm pretty over IDEs</title>
	<author>TofuMatt</author>
	<datestamp>1264966380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I very rarely use XCode, and only use it when developing Mac/iPhone stuff. Largely because of Interface Builder, all that sort of stuff -- using XCode makes sense then. But I write big projects in OO PHP, Ruby, etc., and use TextMate projects for all of it.</p><p>I should have said that while I do use XCode, I don't spend most of my time in it even when I do, and don't think I take too much advantage of its IDE-ness. Maybe I just suck at using IDEs?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I very rarely use XCode , and only use it when developing Mac/iPhone stuff .
Largely because of Interface Builder , all that sort of stuff -- using XCode makes sense then .
But I write big projects in OO PHP , Ruby , etc. , and use TextMate projects for all of it.I should have said that while I do use XCode , I do n't spend most of my time in it even when I do , and do n't think I take too much advantage of its IDE-ness .
Maybe I just suck at using IDEs ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I very rarely use XCode, and only use it when developing Mac/iPhone stuff.
Largely because of Interface Builder, all that sort of stuff -- using XCode makes sense then.
But I write big projects in OO PHP, Ruby, etc., and use TextMate projects for all of it.I should have said that while I do use XCode, I don't spend most of my time in it even when I do, and don't think I take too much advantage of its IDE-ness.
Maybe I just suck at using IDEs?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010842</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010730</id>
	<title>biz8at3h</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264957380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><A HREF="http://goat.cx/" title="goat.cx" rel="nofollow">COME HERE BUT NOW ME! It's ooficial</a> [goat.cx]</htmltext>
<tokenext>COME HERE BUT NOW ME !
It 's ooficial [ goat.cx ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>COME HERE BUT NOW ME!
It's ooficial [goat.cx]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31011224</id>
	<title>Re:Eclipse PDT?</title>
	<author>elfprince13</author>
	<datestamp>1264959240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Eclipse in general is a pain in the ass. I've never used Komodo IDE because I have no interest in BUYING an IDE for hobby development, but Komodo Edit is a joy to use, so I would think that Komodo IDE can only be better.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Eclipse in general is a pain in the ass .
I 've never used Komodo IDE because I have no interest in BUYING an IDE for hobby development , but Komodo Edit is a joy to use , so I would think that Komodo IDE can only be better .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Eclipse in general is a pain in the ass.
I've never used Komodo IDE because I have no interest in BUYING an IDE for hobby development, but Komodo Edit is a joy to use, so I would think that Komodo IDE can only be better.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010480</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010470</id>
	<title>what i'd like in an IDE</title>
	<author>i.r.id10t</author>
	<datestamp>1264956480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What I would like for an IDE is something similar to VB, where you can actually run the PHP, set break points, watch variable values, etc.</p><p>Since that doesn't exist as far as I know, I guess I will keep running a local instance of apache, php, mysql, etc. and throwing in lots of extra print("\n\n") statements</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What I would like for an IDE is something similar to VB , where you can actually run the PHP , set break points , watch variable values , etc.Since that does n't exist as far as I know , I guess I will keep running a local instance of apache , php , mysql , etc .
and throwing in lots of extra print ( " \ n \ n " ) statements</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What I would like for an IDE is something similar to VB, where you can actually run the PHP, set break points, watch variable values, etc.Since that doesn't exist as far as I know, I guess I will keep running a local instance of apache, php, mysql, etc.
and throwing in lots of extra print("\n\n") statements</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31011874</id>
	<title>Re:IDE?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264961700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>vim + xdebug - <a href="http://2bits.com/sites/2bits.com/files/vim-debug-displaying-variables.png" title="2bits.com">looks something like this</a> [2bits.com] (not my screenshot, just random google image search).</htmltext>
<tokenext>vim + xdebug - looks something like this [ 2bits.com ] ( not my screenshot , just random google image search ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>vim + xdebug - looks something like this [2bits.com] (not my screenshot, just random google image search).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31011500</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31014078</id>
	<title>Guaranteed mod points!  Yeah!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264928400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah me too, I'm totally over IDEs.  I put all my C++ classes in one file so there's no confusing project hierarchy.  And since I know my code is correct when it compiles, I really don't have any need for an integrated debugger.  And I don't need source control integration because I just change the date on my filename and save a new copy each time.  It's a lot more straightforward that way.</p><p>Sooooo over IDEs.</p><p> <strong>People who don't use IDEs:</strong>  Thanks in advance for the mod points.  I hope no one realizes that the real reason is that we don't actually program anything complex or structured enough to warrant a complex and structured development environment.</p><p> <strong>People who use IDEs:</strong>  Thanks in advance for not modding me down, because doing so wouldn't be very 1337 of you, you IDE-using script-kiddie.  You probably use VISUAL STUDIO!! LOL!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah me too , I 'm totally over IDEs .
I put all my C + + classes in one file so there 's no confusing project hierarchy .
And since I know my code is correct when it compiles , I really do n't have any need for an integrated debugger .
And I do n't need source control integration because I just change the date on my filename and save a new copy each time .
It 's a lot more straightforward that way.Sooooo over IDEs .
People who do n't use IDEs : Thanks in advance for the mod points .
I hope no one realizes that the real reason is that we do n't actually program anything complex or structured enough to warrant a complex and structured development environment .
People who use IDEs : Thanks in advance for not modding me down , because doing so would n't be very 1337 of you , you IDE-using script-kiddie .
You probably use VISUAL STUDIO ! !
LOL !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah me too, I'm totally over IDEs.
I put all my C++ classes in one file so there's no confusing project hierarchy.
And since I know my code is correct when it compiles, I really don't have any need for an integrated debugger.
And I don't need source control integration because I just change the date on my filename and save a new copy each time.
It's a lot more straightforward that way.Sooooo over IDEs.
People who don't use IDEs:  Thanks in advance for the mod points.
I hope no one realizes that the real reason is that we don't actually program anything complex or structured enough to warrant a complex and structured development environment.
People who use IDEs:  Thanks in advance for not modding me down, because doing so wouldn't be very 1337 of you, you IDE-using script-kiddie.
You probably use VISUAL STUDIO!!
LOL!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010842</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31011200</id>
	<title>Re:vim/EMACS?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264959120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I know this is PHP, so it might be expecting too much, but what ever happened to using vi?</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
I think, vi does not have function name completion, code folding, integration with Zend Platform, debugger, profiler, phpdoc support, code analyzer, etc. Emacs does not have all features of Zend Studio. for me the only thing where emacs beats zend studio 5.5 is customizable white space highlighting.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I know this is PHP , so it might be expecting too much , but what ever happened to using vi ?
I think , vi does not have function name completion , code folding , integration with Zend Platform , debugger , profiler , phpdoc support , code analyzer , etc .
Emacs does not have all features of Zend Studio .
for me the only thing where emacs beats zend studio 5.5 is customizable white space highlighting .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know this is PHP, so it might be expecting too much, but what ever happened to using vi?
I think, vi does not have function name completion, code folding, integration with Zend Platform, debugger, profiler, phpdoc support, code analyzer, etc.
Emacs does not have all features of Zend Studio.
for me the only thing where emacs beats zend studio 5.5 is customizable white space highlighting.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010908</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31016966</id>
	<title>Quanta!!!</title>
	<author>mcalwell</author>
	<datestamp>1264942620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Been using Quanta on Ubuntu for years now. Fantastic. Can't think what else I would need.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Been using Quanta on Ubuntu for years now .
Fantastic. Ca n't think what else I would need .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Been using Quanta on Ubuntu for years now.
Fantastic. Can't think what else I would need.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31013478</id>
	<title>Re:Do any of them assess performance?</title>
	<author>Davorama</author>
	<datestamp>1264968480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>True, but if you are optimizing, you've already gone past that and most of the time everything is coming out of memcache or some such thing. Now you want to profile the rest of your app.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>True , but if you are optimizing , you 've already gone past that and most of the time everything is coming out of memcache or some such thing .
Now you want to profile the rest of your app .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>True, but if you are optimizing, you've already gone past that and most of the time everything is coming out of memcache or some such thing.
Now you want to profile the rest of your app.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31011168</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31011738</id>
	<title>Re:Do any of them assess performance?</title>
	<author>sopssa</author>
	<datestamp>1264961160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You probably didn't work with large enough projects then. You do know optimization is a bit more than making a script that tests whether print() or echo() works faster?</p><p>First of all you need to know what are the bottlenecks on the script, and this includes SQL queries and working with data or files, or remote connections. You work to optimize those queries first. If you still need to go further, you start putting some data in memcache so you don't need to always run the same queries. Knowing what queries are the bottlenecks is how you can improve your database structure too. Are writing operations taking too long? Maybe you should have a master sql server for writing and slaves for reading data. Are you fetching data over the internet or doing some heavy queries that is causing the page for the user to load slowly - maybe it's time to fork the work to separate process and let the page load faster for the user.</p><p>All this comes really relevant when running actually large sites, and this is where the professional IDE's shine.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You probably did n't work with large enough projects then .
You do know optimization is a bit more than making a script that tests whether print ( ) or echo ( ) works faster ? First of all you need to know what are the bottlenecks on the script , and this includes SQL queries and working with data or files , or remote connections .
You work to optimize those queries first .
If you still need to go further , you start putting some data in memcache so you do n't need to always run the same queries .
Knowing what queries are the bottlenecks is how you can improve your database structure too .
Are writing operations taking too long ?
Maybe you should have a master sql server for writing and slaves for reading data .
Are you fetching data over the internet or doing some heavy queries that is causing the page for the user to load slowly - maybe it 's time to fork the work to separate process and let the page load faster for the user.All this comes really relevant when running actually large sites , and this is where the professional IDE 's shine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You probably didn't work with large enough projects then.
You do know optimization is a bit more than making a script that tests whether print() or echo() works faster?First of all you need to know what are the bottlenecks on the script, and this includes SQL queries and working with data or files, or remote connections.
You work to optimize those queries first.
If you still need to go further, you start putting some data in memcache so you don't need to always run the same queries.
Knowing what queries are the bottlenecks is how you can improve your database structure too.
Are writing operations taking too long?
Maybe you should have a master sql server for writing and slaves for reading data.
Are you fetching data over the internet or doing some heavy queries that is causing the page for the user to load slowly - maybe it's time to fork the work to separate process and let the page load faster for the user.All this comes really relevant when running actually large sites, and this is where the professional IDE's shine.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31011546</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31015802</id>
	<title>I use DW</title>
	<author>Bobb Sledd</author>
	<datestamp>1264936800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I use Adobe DreamWeaver and like it, and I am one of the best paid in my field so suck my balls.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I use Adobe DreamWeaver and like it , and I am one of the best paid in my field so suck my balls .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use Adobe DreamWeaver and like it, and I am one of the best paid in my field so suck my balls.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31013198</id>
	<title>Re:vim/EMACS?</title>
	<author>Blakey Rat</author>
	<datestamp>1264967340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Good for you?</p><p>But vi isn't an IDE, and this article is about IDEs... so... off-topic. Tell you what, when there's an article about which text editor is best for PHP, then you can post this same thread and it'll be on-topic! Amazing how that works.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Good for you ? But vi is n't an IDE , and this article is about IDEs... so... off-topic .
Tell you what , when there 's an article about which text editor is best for PHP , then you can post this same thread and it 'll be on-topic !
Amazing how that works .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Good for you?But vi isn't an IDE, and this article is about IDEs... so... off-topic.
Tell you what, when there's an article about which text editor is best for PHP, then you can post this same thread and it'll be on-topic!
Amazing how that works.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010908</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010660</id>
	<title>Re:PHP is cross-platform</title>
	<author>anss123</author>
	<datestamp>1264957140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>PHP is cross-platform. Who the hell develops on Windows on purpose?</p></div><p>Raises hand</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>PHP is cross-platform .
Who the hell develops on Windows on purpose ? Raises hand</tokentext>
<sentencetext>PHP is cross-platform.
Who the hell develops on Windows on purpose?Raises hand
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010500</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31011500</id>
	<title>Re:IDE?</title>
	<author>shutdown -p now</author>
	<datestamp>1264960200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Like I said, never felt the need to use a big IDE, and I don't understand why others do.</p></div><p>How do you debug your PHP code? With a series of "echo" statements?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Like I said , never felt the need to use a big IDE , and I do n't understand why others do.How do you debug your PHP code ?
With a series of " echo " statements ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Like I said, never felt the need to use a big IDE, and I don't understand why others do.How do you debug your PHP code?
With a series of "echo" statements?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010986</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31068344</id>
	<title>Re:I'm pretty over IDEs</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265645340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've been spending all day every day with <a href="http://www.barebones.com/products/bbedit/" title="barebones.com" rel="nofollow">BBEdit</a> [barebones.com] for 7 years (and VIM if I'm in a shell somewhere) and really don't get the IDE craze. While TextMate, BBEdit, and others are all very accomplished editors with nice syntax highlighting and other goodness, I lean toward BBEdit for two reasons:</p><p>
&nbsp; * Separate windows for each file -- I have 4 monitors, why cram everything into dozens of tabs on one?<br>
&nbsp; * Fabulous Grep-powered search and replace. While awk, sed, etc work well, BBEdit's search and replace doesn't require all of the funny character escaping for a bash shell and makes reformatting data-files or code insanely easy.</p><p>BBEdit also has nice text templates that I bind to my function keys to insert comment blocks and other common stuff, though this probably is available in TextMate too.</p><p>While a built-in debugger would be handy, its pretty rare that I come across a situation where a simple <tt>var\_dump($x); exit;</tt> line or <tt>print\_r(debug\_backtrace()); exit;</tt> line won't accomplish the same thing. I do appreciate the debugger when working with Java, but in PHP it just seems less necessary due to how easily anything can be printed.</p><p>Most of the apps I work on are large OO PHP apps that I or my team built from scratch (with the inclusion of ZendFramework or other common libraries), so I don't find the auto-complete or 'project browser' stuff all that useful since I generally know in which modules or classes each function or operation lives. At the end of the day, I guess all of the IDEs I've tried (older version of Zend Studio, Eclipse, Netbeans) seem get in my way more than they help. Maybe I'm missing something though, can any IDE fans give me a good reason to try one again?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been spending all day every day with BBEdit [ barebones.com ] for 7 years ( and VIM if I 'm in a shell somewhere ) and really do n't get the IDE craze .
While TextMate , BBEdit , and others are all very accomplished editors with nice syntax highlighting and other goodness , I lean toward BBEdit for two reasons :   * Separate windows for each file -- I have 4 monitors , why cram everything into dozens of tabs on one ?
  * Fabulous Grep-powered search and replace .
While awk , sed , etc work well , BBEdit 's search and replace does n't require all of the funny character escaping for a bash shell and makes reformatting data-files or code insanely easy.BBEdit also has nice text templates that I bind to my function keys to insert comment blocks and other common stuff , though this probably is available in TextMate too.While a built-in debugger would be handy , its pretty rare that I come across a situation where a simple var \ _dump ( $ x ) ; exit ; line or print \ _r ( debug \ _backtrace ( ) ) ; exit ; line wo n't accomplish the same thing .
I do appreciate the debugger when working with Java , but in PHP it just seems less necessary due to how easily anything can be printed.Most of the apps I work on are large OO PHP apps that I or my team built from scratch ( with the inclusion of ZendFramework or other common libraries ) , so I do n't find the auto-complete or 'project browser ' stuff all that useful since I generally know in which modules or classes each function or operation lives .
At the end of the day , I guess all of the IDEs I 've tried ( older version of Zend Studio , Eclipse , Netbeans ) seem get in my way more than they help .
Maybe I 'm missing something though , can any IDE fans give me a good reason to try one again ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been spending all day every day with BBEdit [barebones.com] for 7 years (and VIM if I'm in a shell somewhere) and really don't get the IDE craze.
While TextMate, BBEdit, and others are all very accomplished editors with nice syntax highlighting and other goodness, I lean toward BBEdit for two reasons:
  * Separate windows for each file -- I have 4 monitors, why cram everything into dozens of tabs on one?
  * Fabulous Grep-powered search and replace.
While awk, sed, etc work well, BBEdit's search and replace doesn't require all of the funny character escaping for a bash shell and makes reformatting data-files or code insanely easy.BBEdit also has nice text templates that I bind to my function keys to insert comment blocks and other common stuff, though this probably is available in TextMate too.While a built-in debugger would be handy, its pretty rare that I come across a situation where a simple var\_dump($x); exit; line or print\_r(debug\_backtrace()); exit; line won't accomplish the same thing.
I do appreciate the debugger when working with Java, but in PHP it just seems less necessary due to how easily anything can be printed.Most of the apps I work on are large OO PHP apps that I or my team built from scratch (with the inclusion of ZendFramework or other common libraries), so I don't find the auto-complete or 'project browser' stuff all that useful since I generally know in which modules or classes each function or operation lives.
At the end of the day, I guess all of the IDEs I've tried (older version of Zend Studio, Eclipse, Netbeans) seem get in my way more than they help.
Maybe I'm missing something though, can any IDE fans give me a good reason to try one again?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010842</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31011130</id>
	<title>Value</title>
	<author>ianare</author>
	<datestamp>1264958880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The ratings are pretty silly. How can ZendStudio have a value of 10, while netbeans has 9? Netbeans is free/OSS, ZS is proprietary and $400 !!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The ratings are pretty silly .
How can ZendStudio have a value of 10 , while netbeans has 9 ?
Netbeans is free/OSS , ZS is proprietary and $ 400 !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The ratings are pretty silly.
How can ZendStudio have a value of 10, while netbeans has 9?
Netbeans is free/OSS, ZS is proprietary and $400 !
!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31011168</id>
	<title>Re:Do any of them assess performance?</title>
	<author>Lord Ender</author>
	<datestamp>1264958940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For web apps (PHP), the most resource-intensive lines are those that hit the database. How fast they are depends on what's in the database.</p><p>What you ask is not possible for an IDE to do.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For web apps ( PHP ) , the most resource-intensive lines are those that hit the database .
How fast they are depends on what 's in the database.What you ask is not possible for an IDE to do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For web apps (PHP), the most resource-intensive lines are those that hit the database.
How fast they are depends on what's in the database.What you ask is not possible for an IDE to do.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010350</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31014620</id>
	<title>Re:yep</title>
	<author>thetoadwarrior</author>
	<datestamp>1264931340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Zend is just Eclipse with some plugin functionality you can get elsewhere (or from Zend themselves) so two of the top options are basically one because I think you'd have to be really stupid to pay $400 for Eclipse.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Zend is just Eclipse with some plugin functionality you can get elsewhere ( or from Zend themselves ) so two of the top options are basically one because I think you 'd have to be really stupid to pay $ 400 for Eclipse .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Zend is just Eclipse with some plugin functionality you can get elsewhere (or from Zend themselves) so two of the top options are basically one because I think you'd have to be really stupid to pay $400 for Eclipse.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010398</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010914</id>
	<title>I've tried proper IDEs</title>
	<author>DeanLearner</author>
	<datestamp>1264958100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>but each time I always go back to Notepad++ <a href="http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net/" title="sourceforge.net" rel="nofollow">http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net/</a> [sourceforge.net]</htmltext>
<tokenext>but each time I always go back to Notepad + + http : //notepad-plus.sourceforge.net/ [ sourceforge.net ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>but each time I always go back to Notepad++ http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net/ [sourceforge.net]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31011116</id>
	<title>Re:Eclipse PDT?</title>
	<author>sopssa</author>
	<datestamp>1264958820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I agree with you, Eclipse is too much work. I want to work with my PHP code, not the IDE. Personally I use Waterproof's PHPEdit and love it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree with you , Eclipse is too much work .
I want to work with my PHP code , not the IDE .
Personally I use Waterproof 's PHPEdit and love it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree with you, Eclipse is too much work.
I want to work with my PHP code, not the IDE.
Personally I use Waterproof's PHPEdit and love it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010480</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31020496</id>
	<title>Re:VHS, x86, Microsoft Windows</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265284200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No one works professionally with PHP.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No one works professionally with PHP .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No one works professionally with PHP.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010686</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31011326</id>
	<title>Re:I'm pretty over IDEs</title>
	<author>Jake Griffin</author>
	<datestamp>1264959660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>http://developer.apple.com/technology/xcode.html - "Xcode is a free download and includes the <b>Xcode IDE</b>..."
</p><p>So, what you're saying is that aside from using an IDE, you pretty much never use IDEs? Just because XCode is from the same company you got your OS from doesn't mean it's not an IDE. BTW, I use XCode almost exclusively as well, so don't think I'm knocking the application, just saying that it most definitely <i>is</i> an IDE.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //developer.apple.com/technology/xcode.html - " Xcode is a free download and includes the Xcode IDE... " So , what you 're saying is that aside from using an IDE , you pretty much never use IDEs ?
Just because XCode is from the same company you got your OS from does n't mean it 's not an IDE .
BTW , I use XCode almost exclusively as well , so do n't think I 'm knocking the application , just saying that it most definitely is an IDE .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://developer.apple.com/technology/xcode.html - "Xcode is a free download and includes the Xcode IDE..."
So, what you're saying is that aside from using an IDE, you pretty much never use IDEs?
Just because XCode is from the same company you got your OS from doesn't mean it's not an IDE.
BTW, I use XCode almost exclusively as well, so don't think I'm knocking the application, just saying that it most definitely is an IDE.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31012746</id>
	<title>Re:yep</title>
	<author>musicalmicah</author>
	<datestamp>1264965180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't have the inclination to try out a bunch of different IDEs, but one of my associates recommended a particular $99/license IDE to me, and getting it was as simply as sending an email request to my boss and getting a response that simply read "Confirmed." A day's pay to enhance a developer's productivity generally isn't even worth blinking at for management.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't have the inclination to try out a bunch of different IDEs , but one of my associates recommended a particular $ 99/license IDE to me , and getting it was as simply as sending an email request to my boss and getting a response that simply read " Confirmed .
" A day 's pay to enhance a developer 's productivity generally is n't even worth blinking at for management .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't have the inclination to try out a bunch of different IDEs, but one of my associates recommended a particular $99/license IDE to me, and getting it was as simply as sending an email request to my boss and getting a response that simply read "Confirmed.
" A day's pay to enhance a developer's productivity generally isn't even worth blinking at for management.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010398</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31011420</id>
	<title>Re:IDE?</title>
	<author>hal2814</author>
	<datestamp>1264959960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Using vim and an IDE aren't mutually exclusive.  Most decent IDEs give you the option of using whatever text editor you want.  Debugging through the IDE and doing nitpicky formatting changes for clients is the major draw for me using an IDE.  I get a lot more throughput that way.  And more throughput leads to more money in my pocket.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Using vim and an IDE are n't mutually exclusive .
Most decent IDEs give you the option of using whatever text editor you want .
Debugging through the IDE and doing nitpicky formatting changes for clients is the major draw for me using an IDE .
I get a lot more throughput that way .
And more throughput leads to more money in my pocket .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Using vim and an IDE aren't mutually exclusive.
Most decent IDEs give you the option of using whatever text editor you want.
Debugging through the IDE and doing nitpicky formatting changes for clients is the major draw for me using an IDE.
I get a lot more throughput that way.
And more throughput leads to more money in my pocket.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010986</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010398</id>
	<title>yep</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264956180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Two of the top choices are free and open.  I don't know how people who build proprietary tools are going to stay in business.  It's not like the commercial stuff crushed the open stuff in this comparison.  I've moved to Netbeans for pretty much everything.  It's a solid, multiplatform solution and the open nature is very nice.  Komodo is built on an open editor, but moving up to the full featured IDE is pretty pricey.  At $399 a pop I've never tried Zend Studio and based on this - I don't think I'm missing much.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Two of the top choices are free and open .
I do n't know how people who build proprietary tools are going to stay in business .
It 's not like the commercial stuff crushed the open stuff in this comparison .
I 've moved to Netbeans for pretty much everything .
It 's a solid , multiplatform solution and the open nature is very nice .
Komodo is built on an open editor , but moving up to the full featured IDE is pretty pricey .
At $ 399 a pop I 've never tried Zend Studio and based on this - I do n't think I 'm missing much .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Two of the top choices are free and open.
I don't know how people who build proprietary tools are going to stay in business.
It's not like the commercial stuff crushed the open stuff in this comparison.
I've moved to Netbeans for pretty much everything.
It's a solid, multiplatform solution and the open nature is very nice.
Komodo is built on an open editor, but moving up to the full featured IDE is pretty pricey.
At $399 a pop I've never tried Zend Studio and based on this - I don't think I'm missing much.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31014558</id>
	<title>Re:Eclipse PDT?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264930980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You're right, Eclipse is waaay too hard for php developers.  When will the real programmers understand that phpers need things to be easy?  I mean, like, really, really easy.  Computers are hard.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're right , Eclipse is waaay too hard for php developers .
When will the real programmers understand that phpers need things to be easy ?
I mean , like , really , really easy .
Computers are hard .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're right, Eclipse is waaay too hard for php developers.
When will the real programmers understand that phpers need things to be easy?
I mean, like, really, really easy.
Computers are hard.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010480</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31012218</id>
	<title>Re:Coda</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264962900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I also use coda, mainly for html/css but also some javascript, php, and perl.  I paid mega bucks for CS3 everything but haven't used Dreamweaver since I discovered coda.  Ok, that's not strictly true as I use dreamweaver at work, but adobe's macintosh shit is an abomination.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I also use coda , mainly for html/css but also some javascript , php , and perl .
I paid mega bucks for CS3 everything but have n't used Dreamweaver since I discovered coda .
Ok , that 's not strictly true as I use dreamweaver at work , but adobe 's macintosh shit is an abomination .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I also use coda, mainly for html/css but also some javascript, php, and perl.
I paid mega bucks for CS3 everything but haven't used Dreamweaver since I discovered coda.
Ok, that's not strictly true as I use dreamweaver at work, but adobe's macintosh shit is an abomination.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010502</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31011546</id>
	<title>Re:Do any of them assess performance?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264960380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But... but... optimizing performance in PHP, is like optimizing performance on a tricycle with four-wheel drive and square wheels. ^^<br>The best optimization for PHP: Move to a real language!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p><p>(Ex 5-year professional PHP developer here, who actually managed to write properly designed software in it, and therefore knows <em>extremely</em> well what PHP is and can&rsquo;t do.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But... but... optimizing performance in PHP , is like optimizing performance on a tricycle with four-wheel drive and square wheels .
^ ^ The best optimization for PHP : Move to a real language !
; ) ( Ex 5-year professional PHP developer here , who actually managed to write properly designed software in it , and therefore knows extremely well what PHP is and can    t do .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But... but... optimizing performance in PHP, is like optimizing performance on a tricycle with four-wheel drive and square wheels.
^^The best optimization for PHP: Move to a real language!
;)(Ex 5-year professional PHP developer here, who actually managed to write properly designed software in it, and therefore knows extremely well what PHP is and can’t do.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31012342</id>
	<title>Re:vim/EMACS?</title>
	<author>eddy the lip</author>
	<datestamp>1264963320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've tried Komodo and Eclipse. Personally, I didn't find that they gave me anything I didn't get from vim and a few bash terminals, except a lot of annoyance. Intellisense was a pain in the ass. My first task was usually trying to turn it off. (Second was trying to find something decent for vim key bindings.) Some of the code refactoring tools were sort of handy, but not enough to make me put up with everything else. Reggexer works very nicely for most of what I used those for anyway.</p><p>It's been a while, so maybe I'm missing out on some shiny new must-have feature, but I have my doubts. I don't see the point in learning a big shiny tool that doesn't give me anything beyond what I already have, but with more mouse clicks.</p><p>The one time I did find an IDE handy was when I was learning Java. Once I figured out my way around, I went back to vim.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've tried Komodo and Eclipse .
Personally , I did n't find that they gave me anything I did n't get from vim and a few bash terminals , except a lot of annoyance .
Intellisense was a pain in the ass .
My first task was usually trying to turn it off .
( Second was trying to find something decent for vim key bindings .
) Some of the code refactoring tools were sort of handy , but not enough to make me put up with everything else .
Reggexer works very nicely for most of what I used those for anyway.It 's been a while , so maybe I 'm missing out on some shiny new must-have feature , but I have my doubts .
I do n't see the point in learning a big shiny tool that does n't give me anything beyond what I already have , but with more mouse clicks.The one time I did find an IDE handy was when I was learning Java .
Once I figured out my way around , I went back to vim .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've tried Komodo and Eclipse.
Personally, I didn't find that they gave me anything I didn't get from vim and a few bash terminals, except a lot of annoyance.
Intellisense was a pain in the ass.
My first task was usually trying to turn it off.
(Second was trying to find something decent for vim key bindings.
) Some of the code refactoring tools were sort of handy, but not enough to make me put up with everything else.
Reggexer works very nicely for most of what I used those for anyway.It's been a while, so maybe I'm missing out on some shiny new must-have feature, but I have my doubts.
I don't see the point in learning a big shiny tool that doesn't give me anything beyond what I already have, but with more mouse clicks.The one time I did find an IDE handy was when I was learning Java.
Once I figured out my way around, I went back to vim.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010908</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31014288</id>
	<title>Re:VHS, x86, Microsoft Windows</title>
	<author>thetoadwarrior</author>
	<datestamp>1264929600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Which explains why PHP often looks so fucking ugly.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Which explains why PHP often looks so fucking ugly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Which explains why PHP often looks so fucking ugly.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010368</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31012244</id>
	<title>Re:you dont need to quote developers.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264962960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What annoyed me about Notepad++ was that it crashed often.  Maybe I was abusing it by having upto 15 files open at a time but I noticed it would mostly crash when I switched to another program (browser, usually, since I was testing what I had just coded/fixed) and switched back.  No ALT+TAB required.  It was as simple as switching focus to the browser window on a separate monitor.  I can say that while it worked, it was great and had almost every feature I needed.  It was a great free program.<br>
&nbsp; <br>The crashing also had one undesired consequence, though.  When I would open it again, it would restore a random state.  I never knew which files would be opened back up.  It could be a session from 3 days ago or it could be my last session.<br>
&nbsp; <br>All in all, I have to say the best IDE I've used to date was Zend Studio 5.  I hated Zend Studio 7.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What annoyed me about Notepad + + was that it crashed often .
Maybe I was abusing it by having upto 15 files open at a time but I noticed it would mostly crash when I switched to another program ( browser , usually , since I was testing what I had just coded/fixed ) and switched back .
No ALT + TAB required .
It was as simple as switching focus to the browser window on a separate monitor .
I can say that while it worked , it was great and had almost every feature I needed .
It was a great free program .
  The crashing also had one undesired consequence , though .
When I would open it again , it would restore a random state .
I never knew which files would be opened back up .
It could be a session from 3 days ago or it could be my last session .
  All in all , I have to say the best IDE I 've used to date was Zend Studio 5 .
I hated Zend Studio 7 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What annoyed me about Notepad++ was that it crashed often.
Maybe I was abusing it by having upto 15 files open at a time but I noticed it would mostly crash when I switched to another program (browser, usually, since I was testing what I had just coded/fixed) and switched back.
No ALT+TAB required.
It was as simple as switching focus to the browser window on a separate monitor.
I can say that while it worked, it was great and had almost every feature I needed.
It was a great free program.
  The crashing also had one undesired consequence, though.
When I would open it again, it would restore a random state.
I never knew which files would be opened back up.
It could be a session from 3 days ago or it could be my last session.
  All in all, I have to say the best IDE I've used to date was Zend Studio 5.
I hated Zend Studio 7.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010910</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31014688</id>
	<title>Re:Eclipse PDT?</title>
	<author>thetoadwarrior</author>
	<datestamp>1264931640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Eclipse in general is pretty rubbish and lacks and professional shine even for an open source product, imo. But it will be popular because using something that's broken to code makes you a better coder apparently.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Eclipse in general is pretty rubbish and lacks and professional shine even for an open source product , imo .
But it will be popular because using something that 's broken to code makes you a better coder apparently .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Eclipse in general is pretty rubbish and lacks and professional shine even for an open source product, imo.
But it will be popular because using something that's broken to code makes you a better coder apparently.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010480</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31023126</id>
	<title>Re:Coda</title>
	<author>fusiongyro</author>
	<datestamp>1265302980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I also thought this was an odd omission. I have three or four editors I use on my Mac, but Coda is the only one I'd go near PHP with.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I also thought this was an odd omission .
I have three or four editors I use on my Mac , but Coda is the only one I 'd go near PHP with .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I also thought this was an odd omission.
I have three or four editors I use on my Mac, but Coda is the only one I'd go near PHP with.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010502</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31012632</id>
	<title>Re:Eclipse PDT?</title>
	<author>kestasjk</author>
	<datestamp>1264964640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It is all workable, once you get Eclipse working it'll work from that point on. I wrote a <a href="http://kestas.kuliukas.com/PDTXdebug/" title="kuliukas.com">guide</a> [kuliukas.com] on setting up debugging, it took a while but once you've done it once you're set, and you're not out by $xxx dollars per year.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It is all workable , once you get Eclipse working it 'll work from that point on .
I wrote a guide [ kuliukas.com ] on setting up debugging , it took a while but once you 've done it once you 're set , and you 're not out by $ xxx dollars per year .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is all workable, once you get Eclipse working it'll work from that point on.
I wrote a guide [kuliukas.com] on setting up debugging, it took a while but once you've done it once you're set, and you're not out by $xxx dollars per year.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010480</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31014264</id>
	<title>Re:what i'd like in an IDE</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264929420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think you can set break points and watch variables, etc with PHPEdit as well.</p><p>At least I was able to, when I last used it a few years back.</p><p>Am sure it is probably even better now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think you can set break points and watch variables , etc with PHPEdit as well.At least I was able to , when I last used it a few years back.Am sure it is probably even better now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think you can set break points and watch variables, etc with PHPEdit as well.At least I was able to, when I last used it a few years back.Am sure it is probably even better now.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010470</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31012496</id>
	<title>Re:you dont need to quote developers.</title>
	<author>kestasjk</author>
	<datestamp>1264963980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I use notepad++ for text files etc but it's not an IDE, is it? Does it have debugging, project management, variable tracking, object/namespace browsing and auto-completion? You're wasting your own time if you don't use a good IDE.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I use notepad + + for text files etc but it 's not an IDE , is it ?
Does it have debugging , project management , variable tracking , object/namespace browsing and auto-completion ?
You 're wasting your own time if you do n't use a good IDE .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use notepad++ for text files etc but it's not an IDE, is it?
Does it have debugging, project management, variable tracking, object/namespace browsing and auto-completion?
You're wasting your own time if you don't use a good IDE.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010910</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31011302</id>
	<title>Re:Do any of them assess performance?</title>
	<author>kv9</author>
	<datestamp>1264959600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Most of these IDEs integrate with some sort of debugger AFAIK. I have tried them all but none can beat the simplicity of EditPlus (on Windows at least).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Most of these IDEs integrate with some sort of debugger AFAIK .
I have tried them all but none can beat the simplicity of EditPlus ( on Windows at least ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most of these IDEs integrate with some sort of debugger AFAIK.
I have tried them all but none can beat the simplicity of EditPlus (on Windows at least).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31011168</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31012472</id>
	<title>Re:Do any of them assess performance?</title>
	<author>kestasjk</author>
	<datestamp>1264963860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>You need to use Xdebug (you could use Zend's commercial platform software, but that's expensive and you don't need it). You activate it, and it'll log all sessions to profile data files if you configure it to. Then you download "WinCacheGrind" or something, which will open these profile data files for analysis.<br> <br>

However WinCacheGrind is an old piece of software that hasn't got new features for a long time. It does the job, but it's not great. It's a clone of a more advanced KDE application which does the same thing, but it definitely has fewer features.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You need to use Xdebug ( you could use Zend 's commercial platform software , but that 's expensive and you do n't need it ) .
You activate it , and it 'll log all sessions to profile data files if you configure it to .
Then you download " WinCacheGrind " or something , which will open these profile data files for analysis .
However WinCacheGrind is an old piece of software that has n't got new features for a long time .
It does the job , but it 's not great .
It 's a clone of a more advanced KDE application which does the same thing , but it definitely has fewer features .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You need to use Xdebug (you could use Zend's commercial platform software, but that's expensive and you don't need it).
You activate it, and it'll log all sessions to profile data files if you configure it to.
Then you download "WinCacheGrind" or something, which will open these profile data files for analysis.
However WinCacheGrind is an old piece of software that hasn't got new features for a long time.
It does the job, but it's not great.
It's a clone of a more advanced KDE application which does the same thing, but it definitely has fewer features.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010350</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31014000</id>
	<title>Re:VHS, x86, Microsoft Windows</title>
	<author>KingPin27</author>
	<datestamp>1264971240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Bad troll is bad. No one who *professionally* works with PHP and in other web development uses freaking Notepad.</p></div><p>
you're right -- I used to use Emacs but no i've switched to VI -- Notepad doesn't work in my OS of choice (natively)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Bad troll is bad .
No one who * professionally * works with PHP and in other web development uses freaking Notepad .
you 're right -- I used to use Emacs but no i 've switched to VI -- Notepad does n't work in my OS of choice ( natively )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bad troll is bad.
No one who *professionally* works with PHP and in other web development uses freaking Notepad.
you're right -- I used to use Emacs but no i've switched to VI -- Notepad doesn't work in my OS of choice (natively)
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010686</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010738</id>
	<title>Re:Coda</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264957440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Also check out Sequel Pro (http://www.sequelpro.com) for MySQL database management - they've taken the venerable CocoaMySQL and are really running with it, pretty awesome app and free!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Also check out Sequel Pro ( http : //www.sequelpro.com ) for MySQL database management - they 've taken the venerable CocoaMySQL and are really running with it , pretty awesome app and free !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Also check out Sequel Pro (http://www.sequelpro.com) for MySQL database management - they've taken the venerable CocoaMySQL and are really running with it, pretty awesome app and free!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31014566</id>
	<title>I only hope...</title>
	<author>toby</author>
	<datestamp>1264931040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You also use some kind of decent version control.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You also use some kind of decent version control .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You also use some kind of decent version control.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010910</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31012744</id>
	<title>Re:Do any of them assess performance?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264965180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>How ever the above statement completely ignores the back end PHP which can be *more* expensive computationally.
<br> <br>
- Guy that works for a company using a linux appliance to enable "backup to the cloud", with everything including LZMA and data dedupe written in PHP.</htmltext>
<tokenext>How ever the above statement completely ignores the back end PHP which can be * more * expensive computationally .
- Guy that works for a company using a linux appliance to enable " backup to the cloud " , with everything including LZMA and data dedupe written in PHP .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How ever the above statement completely ignores the back end PHP which can be *more* expensive computationally.
- Guy that works for a company using a linux appliance to enable "backup to the cloud", with everything including LZMA and data dedupe written in PHP.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010350</id>
	<title>Do any of them assess performance?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264956000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is not a troll, I swear!  Are there any good performance assessment tools used during development?  If so, do they work well with any of these IDEs?  I don't do a lot of PHP work but it would be nice to have a tool that could audit code, advise on which lines were the most resource-intensive, and recommend lighter weight procedures.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is not a troll , I swear !
Are there any good performance assessment tools used during development ?
If so , do they work well with any of these IDEs ?
I do n't do a lot of PHP work but it would be nice to have a tool that could audit code , advise on which lines were the most resource-intensive , and recommend lighter weight procedures .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is not a troll, I swear!
Are there any good performance assessment tools used during development?
If so, do they work well with any of these IDEs?
I don't do a lot of PHP work but it would be nice to have a tool that could audit code, advise on which lines were the most resource-intensive, and recommend lighter weight procedures.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31014420</id>
	<title>VS.PHP</title>
	<author>fysdt</author>
	<datestamp>1264930320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Isn't on the list but it's an awesome <a href="http://www.jcxsoftware.com/vs.php" title="jcxsoftware.com" rel="nofollow">IDE</a> [jcxsoftware.com] for PHP development in Visual Studio.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is n't on the list but it 's an awesome IDE [ jcxsoftware.com ] for PHP development in Visual Studio .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Isn't on the list but it's an awesome IDE [jcxsoftware.com] for PHP development in Visual Studio.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010372</id>
	<title>Left out my favorite</title>
	<author>anss123</author>
	<datestamp>1264956120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>DevPHP is AFAIK open source and works pretty well for me.</htmltext>
<tokenext>DevPHP is AFAIK open source and works pretty well for me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>DevPHP is AFAIK open source and works pretty well for me.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31013320</id>
	<title>Re:VHS, x86, Microsoft Windows</title>
	<author>EkriirkE</author>
	<datestamp>1264967820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's what I use... or gedit in lunix or vim(m) when ssh'ing</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's what I use... or gedit in lunix or vim ( m ) when ssh'ing</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's what I use... or gedit in lunix or vim(m) when ssh'ing</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010368</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31011094</id>
	<title>Same here.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264958700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have had the same experience with eclipse. Komodo Edit - the free version - I found to hang for several seconds while typing on my Linux box (f12, P4, 512M RAM) I'm assuming that the free edit version uses the same editor code base as the commercial IDE - I don't see why it wouldn't.</p><p>So far on Linux, my favorite is Netbeans. Actually, Netbeans is my favorite IDE for everything - it's a great C++ IDE too! The trouble with Netbeans, though, if you're doing Qt development, it doesn't have the integration that eclipse has with the Qt build environment. So, if you're doing C++/Qt, eclipse is a bit better.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have had the same experience with eclipse .
Komodo Edit - the free version - I found to hang for several seconds while typing on my Linux box ( f12 , P4 , 512M RAM ) I 'm assuming that the free edit version uses the same editor code base as the commercial IDE - I do n't see why it would n't.So far on Linux , my favorite is Netbeans .
Actually , Netbeans is my favorite IDE for everything - it 's a great C + + IDE too !
The trouble with Netbeans , though , if you 're doing Qt development , it does n't have the integration that eclipse has with the Qt build environment .
So , if you 're doing C + + /Qt , eclipse is a bit better .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have had the same experience with eclipse.
Komodo Edit - the free version - I found to hang for several seconds while typing on my Linux box (f12, P4, 512M RAM) I'm assuming that the free edit version uses the same editor code base as the commercial IDE - I don't see why it wouldn't.So far on Linux, my favorite is Netbeans.
Actually, Netbeans is my favorite IDE for everything - it's a great C++ IDE too!
The trouble with Netbeans, though, if you're doing Qt development, it doesn't have the integration that eclipse has with the Qt build environment.
So, if you're doing C++/Qt, eclipse is a bit better.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31011002</id>
	<title>Re:Zend Studio</title>
	<author>Phrogman</author>
	<datestamp>1264958340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I gotta agree ZS was great. I have tried the Eclipse Framework version and hate it. I still have my ZS installed but had to switch to Netbeans, as a result of upgrading to Leopard on my iMac (After the upgrade, I no longer see highlighted text and thats a pain when coding. The moment I select it, its white on white). Until i figure a way to fix that, I am using Netbeans, which is okay but not as nice overall. ZendStudio really was worth the money I paid for it, too bad they don't update it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I got ta agree ZS was great .
I have tried the Eclipse Framework version and hate it .
I still have my ZS installed but had to switch to Netbeans , as a result of upgrading to Leopard on my iMac ( After the upgrade , I no longer see highlighted text and thats a pain when coding .
The moment I select it , its white on white ) .
Until i figure a way to fix that , I am using Netbeans , which is okay but not as nice overall .
ZendStudio really was worth the money I paid for it , too bad they do n't update it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I gotta agree ZS was great.
I have tried the Eclipse Framework version and hate it.
I still have my ZS installed but had to switch to Netbeans, as a result of upgrading to Leopard on my iMac (After the upgrade, I no longer see highlighted text and thats a pain when coding.
The moment I select it, its white on white).
Until i figure a way to fix that, I am using Netbeans, which is okay but not as nice overall.
ZendStudio really was worth the money I paid for it, too bad they don't update it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010908</id>
	<title>vim/EMACS?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264958040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I know this is PHP, so it might be expecting too much, but what ever happened to using vi?</p><p>I'm a semi-pro (all told I've probably made nearly $100k) web developer and I've never felt the need for all these fancy IDEs. I've tried them before and they just slow me down.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I know this is PHP , so it might be expecting too much , but what ever happened to using vi ? I 'm a semi-pro ( all told I 've probably made nearly $ 100k ) web developer and I 've never felt the need for all these fancy IDEs .
I 've tried them before and they just slow me down .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know this is PHP, so it might be expecting too much, but what ever happened to using vi?I'm a semi-pro (all told I've probably made nearly $100k) web developer and I've never felt the need for all these fancy IDEs.
I've tried them before and they just slow me down.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010480</id>
	<title>Eclipse PDT?</title>
	<author>KermodeBear</author>
	<datestamp>1264956540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Eclipse PHP Development Tools 2.1.2 received an overall score of 8.8. I'm not sure why. I have tried this on several occasions and I find the interface confusing, the software itself bloated and slow, and the internal plugin manager is always broken and can't download dependencies correctly - if at all.</p><p>Sure, there are posts all over the place that are supposed to help fix these issues: Download X from Y, and A from B, and then modify this configuration, and, and, and...<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...and I shouldn't have to. It should 'just work'. I spent half a day trying to get the SFTP plugin installed and working and I gave up. I don't have time for that.</p><p>My personal favorite, as far as 'large' IDEs go, is Zend Studio - the last version before they moved over onto the Eclipse Framework.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Eclipse PHP Development Tools 2.1.2 received an overall score of 8.8 .
I 'm not sure why .
I have tried this on several occasions and I find the interface confusing , the software itself bloated and slow , and the internal plugin manager is always broken and ca n't download dependencies correctly - if at all.Sure , there are posts all over the place that are supposed to help fix these issues : Download X from Y , and A from B , and then modify this configuration , and , and , and... ...and I should n't have to .
It should 'just work' .
I spent half a day trying to get the SFTP plugin installed and working and I gave up .
I do n't have time for that.My personal favorite , as far as 'large ' IDEs go , is Zend Studio - the last version before they moved over onto the Eclipse Framework .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Eclipse PHP Development Tools 2.1.2 received an overall score of 8.8.
I'm not sure why.
I have tried this on several occasions and I find the interface confusing, the software itself bloated and slow, and the internal plugin manager is always broken and can't download dependencies correctly - if at all.Sure, there are posts all over the place that are supposed to help fix these issues: Download X from Y, and A from B, and then modify this configuration, and, and, and... ...and I shouldn't have to.
It should 'just work'.
I spent half a day trying to get the SFTP plugin installed and working and I gave up.
I don't have time for that.My personal favorite, as far as 'large' IDEs go, is Zend Studio - the last version before they moved over onto the Eclipse Framework.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31011098</id>
	<title>Re:Do any of them assess performance?</title>
	<author>IpSo\_</author>
	<datestamp>1264958760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Have you tried using PHP's Xdebug extension with CacheGrind (I prefer KCacheGrind for KDE), it works wonders.</p><p>I haven't found any IDE's that integrate such functionality, but I don't really see a need for it as KCacheGrind works so well as it is.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Have you tried using PHP 's Xdebug extension with CacheGrind ( I prefer KCacheGrind for KDE ) , it works wonders.I have n't found any IDE 's that integrate such functionality , but I do n't really see a need for it as KCacheGrind works so well as it is .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have you tried using PHP's Xdebug extension with CacheGrind (I prefer KCacheGrind for KDE), it works wonders.I haven't found any IDE's that integrate such functionality, but I don't really see a need for it as KCacheGrind works so well as it is.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010350</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31012572</id>
	<title>Re:PHP is cross-platform</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264964280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>People who don't want to recompile their kernel, and edit their x config with a command just to get their video card to work mostly.</p></div><p>This post brought to you from 1999.  Now sit back, relax and enjoy the Latin flavored sounds of Santana featuring Rob Thomas with Smooth, you're listening to KLSR the cutting edge, 10 years late.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>People who do n't want to recompile their kernel , and edit their x config with a command just to get their video card to work mostly.This post brought to you from 1999 .
Now sit back , relax and enjoy the Latin flavored sounds of Santana featuring Rob Thomas with Smooth , you 're listening to KLSR the cutting edge , 10 years late .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People who don't want to recompile their kernel, and edit their x config with a command just to get their video card to work mostly.This post brought to you from 1999.
Now sit back, relax and enjoy the Latin flavored sounds of Santana featuring Rob Thomas with Smooth, you're listening to KLSR the cutting edge, 10 years late.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31011164</id>
	<title>Bluefish</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264958940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For all my web development needs (incl html, css, javascript, java, php and mysql) under Linux there is <a href="http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/" title="openoffice.nl" rel="nofollow">Bluefish</a> [openoffice.nl]!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For all my web development needs ( incl html , css , javascript , java , php and mysql ) under Linux there is Bluefish [ openoffice.nl ] !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For all my web development needs (incl html, css, javascript, java, php and mysql) under Linux there is Bluefish [openoffice.nl]!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010624</id>
	<title>Performances anyone?</title>
	<author>Rhaban</author>
	<datestamp>1264957020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I usually use eclipse PDT on windows, but it doesn't scale well with really big projects (anything base on <a href="http://ez.no/" title="ez.no">ez publish</a> [ez.no], a CMS often used in the company I work for): the code completion system becomes a nightmare, as everytime I begin typing a function name it freezes several seconds as if parsing every file on the hard drive to find if it already exists somewhere.<br>I tried netbeans, and the problem is the same. I end up with and IDE where the only features I use are syntax coloring, functions folding, and file structure outline.</p><p>On smaller projets it's very useful to jump to the defincition of a class/function just by hitting F3 while the cursor is on the function name, regardless of what file it is declared in. I really miss it on big projects, where it could be even more useful.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I usually use eclipse PDT on windows , but it does n't scale well with really big projects ( anything base on ez publish [ ez.no ] , a CMS often used in the company I work for ) : the code completion system becomes a nightmare , as everytime I begin typing a function name it freezes several seconds as if parsing every file on the hard drive to find if it already exists somewhere.I tried netbeans , and the problem is the same .
I end up with and IDE where the only features I use are syntax coloring , functions folding , and file structure outline.On smaller projets it 's very useful to jump to the defincition of a class/function just by hitting F3 while the cursor is on the function name , regardless of what file it is declared in .
I really miss it on big projects , where it could be even more useful .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I usually use eclipse PDT on windows, but it doesn't scale well with really big projects (anything base on ez publish [ez.no], a CMS often used in the company I work for): the code completion system becomes a nightmare, as everytime I begin typing a function name it freezes several seconds as if parsing every file on the hard drive to find if it already exists somewhere.I tried netbeans, and the problem is the same.
I end up with and IDE where the only features I use are syntax coloring, functions folding, and file structure outline.On smaller projets it's very useful to jump to the defincition of a class/function just by hitting F3 while the cursor is on the function name, regardless of what file it is declared in.
I really miss it on big projects, where it could be even more useful.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31013184</id>
	<title>Please stop writing IDEs in Java</title>
	<author>Xeoz</author>
	<datestamp>1264967280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Really, it's time. No more Java desktop apps, especially IDEs.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Really , it 's time .
No more Java desktop apps , especially IDEs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Really, it's time.
No more Java desktop apps, especially IDEs.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010910</id>
	<title>you dont need to quote developers.</title>
	<author>unity100</author>
	<datestamp>1264958040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>as if php is not something worth developing on or those who develop on it cannot be called real developers.</p><p>i am working in the industry since 2003 as a php developer and i use notepad++. it works very well too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>as if php is not something worth developing on or those who develop on it can not be called real developers.i am working in the industry since 2003 as a php developer and i use notepad + + .
it works very well too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>as if php is not something worth developing on or those who develop on it cannot be called real developers.i am working in the industry since 2003 as a php developer and i use notepad++.
it works very well too.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31011926</id>
	<title>Re:I'm pretty over IDEs</title>
	<author>blackfrancis75</author>
	<datestamp>1264961940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>it'd be even more 'Informative' if you specified what it is about IDEs you consider disadvantageous</htmltext>
<tokenext>it 'd be even more 'Informative ' if you specified what it is about IDEs you consider disadvantageous</tokentext>
<sentencetext>it'd be even more 'Informative' if you specified what it is about IDEs you consider disadvantageous</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010686</id>
	<title>Re:VHS, x86, Microsoft Windows</title>
	<author>sopssa</author>
	<datestamp>1264957260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Bad troll is bad. No one who *professionally* works with PHP and in other web development uses freaking Notepad.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Bad troll is bad .
No one who * professionally * works with PHP and in other web development uses freaking Notepad .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bad troll is bad.
No one who *professionally* works with PHP and in other web development uses freaking Notepad.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31014564</id>
	<title>Re:VHS, x86, Microsoft Windows</title>
	<author>thetoadwarrior</author>
	<datestamp>1264931040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Dreamweaver is very expensive for something that (last I used it) still lacked some features you'd expect from an IDE of that price and quite frankly I'm not sure I trust a program to check my PHP when it generates shit PHP itself.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Dreamweaver is very expensive for something that ( last I used it ) still lacked some features you 'd expect from an IDE of that price and quite frankly I 'm not sure I trust a program to check my PHP when it generates shit PHP itself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dreamweaver is very expensive for something that (last I used it) still lacked some features you'd expect from an IDE of that price and quite frankly I'm not sure I trust a program to check my PHP when it generates shit PHP itself.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31011102</id>
	<title>I Vote Eclipse</title>
	<author>twmcneil</author>
	<datestamp>1264958760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>My new projects are in Flex and/or php so I stay with Eclipse to save my sanity.  I still have to use Delphi for  maintenance work on older projects so having to keep 3 IDEs in my tiny little brain at once would be difficult for me.  Even so, I'm hitting F2 in Delphi to save.  Grrr.</htmltext>
<tokenext>My new projects are in Flex and/or php so I stay with Eclipse to save my sanity .
I still have to use Delphi for maintenance work on older projects so having to keep 3 IDEs in my tiny little brain at once would be difficult for me .
Even so , I 'm hitting F2 in Delphi to save .
Grrr .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My new projects are in Flex and/or php so I stay with Eclipse to save my sanity.
I still have to use Delphi for  maintenance work on older projects so having to keep 3 IDEs in my tiny little brain at once would be difficult for me.
Even so, I'm hitting F2 in Delphi to save.
Grrr.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31010502</id>
	<title>Coda</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264956600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I use panic software's CODA for my php development (OSX).  Its not really as full featured as these (no debugger), but for the fairly basic php web sites I code, it works great.  I like that you can click a tab and snap into the page your creating in a functional browser.  I use YourSQL for MYSQL database management, which still works but is no longer being developed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I use panic software 's CODA for my php development ( OSX ) .
Its not really as full featured as these ( no debugger ) , but for the fairly basic php web sites I code , it works great .
I like that you can click a tab and snap into the page your creating in a functional browser .
I use YourSQL for MYSQL database management , which still works but is no longer being developed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use panic software's CODA for my php development (OSX).
Its not really as full featured as these (no debugger), but for the fairly basic php web sites I code, it works great.
I like that you can click a tab and snap into the page your creating in a functional browser.
I use YourSQL for MYSQL database management, which still works but is no longer being developed.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31020236</id>
	<title>VS.PHP</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265280900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've tried most of them but none have compared to VS.PHP which is a Visual Studio plugin. This means I can use a proper IDE which I am familiar with, that I use for all other dev projects and is actually a proper professional package (rather that some of the ones listed)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've tried most of them but none have compared to VS.PHP which is a Visual Studio plugin .
This means I can use a proper IDE which I am familiar with , that I use for all other dev projects and is actually a proper professional package ( rather that some of the ones listed )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've tried most of them but none have compared to VS.PHP which is a Visual Studio plugin.
This means I can use a proper IDE which I am familiar with, that I use for all other dev projects and is actually a proper professional package (rather that some of the ones listed)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31018484</id>
	<title>Re:yep</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264954560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Eclipse drove me away because complex open source projects were hard to pick up and debug quickly.<br>phpEd on the other hand, rocked.  It's the only IDE I've ever liked as much as visual studio.  You don't have to setup debugging, since it just works.  IntelliSense works well and fast.  Importing complex pre-existing projects is totally unproblematic, and the interface is completely intuitive (although I'm never 100\% happy with not having vim keybindings).  If I developed in PHP more than twice a year, I would pay for it out of my own pocket for the time savings.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Eclipse drove me away because complex open source projects were hard to pick up and debug quickly.phpEd on the other hand , rocked .
It 's the only IDE I 've ever liked as much as visual studio .
You do n't have to setup debugging , since it just works .
IntelliSense works well and fast .
Importing complex pre-existing projects is totally unproblematic , and the interface is completely intuitive ( although I 'm never 100 \ % happy with not having vim keybindings ) .
If I developed in PHP more than twice a year , I would pay for it out of my own pocket for the time savings .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Eclipse drove me away because complex open source projects were hard to pick up and debug quickly.phpEd on the other hand, rocked.
It's the only IDE I've ever liked as much as visual studio.
You don't have to setup debugging, since it just works.
IntelliSense works well and fast.
Importing complex pre-existing projects is totally unproblematic, and the interface is completely intuitive (although I'm never 100\% happy with not having vim keybindings).
If I developed in PHP more than twice a year, I would pay for it out of my own pocket for the time savings.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_03_1519232.31011242</id>
	<title>EditPlus</title>
	<author>Daley\_G</author>
	<datestamp>1264959300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>For $30, EditPlus (for Windows, but runs great in wine) is awesome. Granted it doesn't do all the things that a full-fledged IDE does, but the fact that it's got a built-in FTP client makes my life easier when I maintain several different sites. It's lightweight, flexible and easy to use.</htmltext>
<tokenext>For $ 30 , EditPlus ( for Windows , but runs great in wine ) is awesome .
Granted it does n't do all the things that a full-fledged IDE does , but the fact that it 's got a built-in FTP client makes my life easier when I maintain several different sites .
It 's lightweight , flexible and easy to use .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For $30, EditPlus (for Windows, but runs great in wine) is awesome.
Granted it doesn't do all the things that a full-fledged IDE does, but the fact that it's got a built-in FTP client makes my life easier when I maintain several different sites.
It's lightweight, flexible and easy to use.</sentencetext>
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