<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_02_01_1418236</id>
	<title>The Web Way To Learn a Language</title>
	<author>ScuttleMonkey</author>
	<datestamp>1265035680000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>theodp writes <i>"Thanks to Tim Berners-Lee, you can now sit in your underwear in Omaha and learn French from a tutor in Paris. The NY Times has a <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/28/technology/personaltech/28basics.html?ref=technology">round-up of ways to learn a language over the Web</a>. 'We offer modern-day pen pals facilitated with voice over I.P.,' said Tom Adams, CEO of RosettaStone, whose learning options include RosettaStudio, a place where a user can talk to a native speaker via video chat. TellMeMore offers a speech recognition component that analyzes pronunciation, graphs your speech, and suggests how to perfect it. Free-as-in-beer offerings include <a href="http://www.bbc.com/languages">BBC Languages</a>, where you'll find varying levels of instruction for 36 languages, with features including audio and video playback and translation. Things have certainly come a long way since the <a href="https://www.calico.org/a-586-The\%20Illinois\%20PLATO\%20Foreign\%20Languages\%20Project.html">PLATO Foreign Languages Project</a> of the '70s."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>theodp writes " Thanks to Tim Berners-Lee , you can now sit in your underwear in Omaha and learn French from a tutor in Paris .
The NY Times has a round-up of ways to learn a language over the Web .
'We offer modern-day pen pals facilitated with voice over I.P., ' said Tom Adams , CEO of RosettaStone , whose learning options include RosettaStudio , a place where a user can talk to a native speaker via video chat .
TellMeMore offers a speech recognition component that analyzes pronunciation , graphs your speech , and suggests how to perfect it .
Free-as-in-beer offerings include BBC Languages , where you 'll find varying levels of instruction for 36 languages , with features including audio and video playback and translation .
Things have certainly come a long way since the PLATO Foreign Languages Project of the '70s .
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<sentencetext>theodp writes "Thanks to Tim Berners-Lee, you can now sit in your underwear in Omaha and learn French from a tutor in Paris.
The NY Times has a round-up of ways to learn a language over the Web.
'We offer modern-day pen pals facilitated with voice over I.P.,' said Tom Adams, CEO of RosettaStone, whose learning options include RosettaStudio, a place where a user can talk to a native speaker via video chat.
TellMeMore offers a speech recognition component that analyzes pronunciation, graphs your speech, and suggests how to perfect it.
Free-as-in-beer offerings include BBC Languages, where you'll find varying levels of instruction for 36 languages, with features including audio and video playback and translation.
Things have certainly come a long way since the PLATO Foreign Languages Project of the '70s.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30987282</id>
	<title>Re:Some more resources</title>
	<author>myowntrueself</author>
	<datestamp>1265020020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Chinese language is, in its spoken form, so simple. Grammatically its a perfect 'isolating language'</p><p>It should be very easy to learn to speak and understand than it would to read. So long as you could speak enough to be able to get clarification on the many homophones I'm sure a person could get by in China as an illiterate.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Chinese language is , in its spoken form , so simple .
Grammatically its a perfect 'isolating language'It should be very easy to learn to speak and understand than it would to read .
So long as you could speak enough to be able to get clarification on the many homophones I 'm sure a person could get by in China as an illiterate .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Chinese language is, in its spoken form, so simple.
Grammatically its a perfect 'isolating language'It should be very easy to learn to speak and understand than it would to read.
So long as you could speak enough to be able to get clarification on the many homophones I'm sure a person could get by in China as an illiterate.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30984848</id>
	<title>Re:Time to start learning Chinese</title>
	<author>CorporateSuit</author>
	<datestamp>1265054940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Nuh Fing Wong Hea.  Al Tings Oh Kay.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Nuh Fing Wong Hea .
Al Tings Oh Kay .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nuh Fing Wong Hea.
Al Tings Oh Kay.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30981042</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30981212</id>
	<title>Re:Music, comedy and something else of interest</title>
	<author>ucblockhead</author>
	<datestamp>1265040180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Movies are even better.  When you are a novice, subtitles help you know what to listen for, and for everyone the action on the screen can act as a cue to what is being said.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Movies are even better .
When you are a novice , subtitles help you know what to listen for , and for everyone the action on the screen can act as a cue to what is being said .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Movies are even better.
When you are a novice, subtitles help you know what to listen for, and for everyone the action on the screen can act as a cue to what is being said.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30980986</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30981462</id>
	<title>Touch Screen Monitor</title>
	<author>CFBMoo1</author>
	<datestamp>1265041080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>"Thanks to Tim Berners-Lee, you can now sit in your underwear in Omaha and learn French from a tutor in Paris."<br><br>Um... I'm not sure how well this will work, I can't really stick my tongue in the monitor and since it's a touch screen I might accidentally tongue the close widget in the upper right corner of the screen. Not to mention the possible shock hazard, some how I feel like that kid that was dared to stick his tongue on the flag pole in winter.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Thanks to Tim Berners-Lee , you can now sit in your underwear in Omaha and learn French from a tutor in Paris. " Um.. .
I 'm not sure how well this will work , I ca n't really stick my tongue in the monitor and since it 's a touch screen I might accidentally tongue the close widget in the upper right corner of the screen .
Not to mention the possible shock hazard , some how I feel like that kid that was dared to stick his tongue on the flag pole in winter .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Thanks to Tim Berners-Lee, you can now sit in your underwear in Omaha and learn French from a tutor in Paris."Um...
I'm not sure how well this will work, I can't really stick my tongue in the monitor and since it's a touch screen I might accidentally tongue the close widget in the upper right corner of the screen.
Not to mention the possible shock hazard, some how I feel like that kid that was dared to stick his tongue on the flag pole in winter.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30981942</id>
	<title>Bad article, but...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265042940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well the article sucks.  Most of the iPhone things mentioned are next to useless, as is Rosetta stone as soon as you pass the first few levels.</p><p>Sadly, language learning is something you *have* to do in a class to do properly, since it involves human interaction by it's very nature.    Also, non-college classes are of vastly varying quality, so better to take one at a community college instead of your local "entertainment" school.</p><p>On the other hand, learning new vocab can be done online easily, and smart.fm is one of the best sites I have ever seen for doing that, *and* it's free.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well the article sucks .
Most of the iPhone things mentioned are next to useless , as is Rosetta stone as soon as you pass the first few levels.Sadly , language learning is something you * have * to do in a class to do properly , since it involves human interaction by it 's very nature .
Also , non-college classes are of vastly varying quality , so better to take one at a community college instead of your local " entertainment " school.On the other hand , learning new vocab can be done online easily , and smart.fm is one of the best sites I have ever seen for doing that , * and * it 's free .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well the article sucks.
Most of the iPhone things mentioned are next to useless, as is Rosetta stone as soon as you pass the first few levels.Sadly, language learning is something you *have* to do in a class to do properly, since it involves human interaction by it's very nature.
Also, non-college classes are of vastly varying quality, so better to take one at a community college instead of your local "entertainment" school.On the other hand, learning new vocab can be done online easily, and smart.fm is one of the best sites I have ever seen for doing that, *and* it's free.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30987142</id>
	<title>Re:Time to start learning Chinese</title>
	<author>xandroid</author>
	<datestamp>1265019480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>dang3zheng4 zong3shi4 dui4 de.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>dang3zheng4 zong3shi4 dui4 de .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>dang3zheng4 zong3shi4 dui4 de.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30981042</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30982264</id>
	<title>Re:Odd Reference to Berners-Lee</title>
	<author>dmayle</author>
	<datestamp>1265044320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, as it turns out, it actually does... Take a look at the <a href="http://arstechnica.com/business/networking-and-security/2010/01/voip-in-depth-an-introduction-to-the-sip-protocol-part-1.ars" title="arstechnica.com">Ars Technica article on SIP (Session Initiation Protocol)</a> [arstechnica.com] and you'll see that SIP was modelled after <a href="http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616.html" title="w3.org">HTTP</a> [w3.org].  For those who don't know, SIP is the protocol most often used in making open video and voice calls over the internet (open as in non-proprietary.  e.g. Skype doesn't use SIP, but interestingly enough, iChat does)</p><p>Of course, I think it's pretty obvious that it was HTTP and HTML (aka the world wide web) that brought about the huge explosion in communication and networking technology that makes voice and video over the internet possible.  But I think you knew that and were just being pedantic...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , as it turns out , it actually does... Take a look at the Ars Technica article on SIP ( Session Initiation Protocol ) [ arstechnica.com ] and you 'll see that SIP was modelled after HTTP [ w3.org ] .
For those who do n't know , SIP is the protocol most often used in making open video and voice calls over the internet ( open as in non-proprietary .
e.g. Skype does n't use SIP , but interestingly enough , iChat does ) Of course , I think it 's pretty obvious that it was HTTP and HTML ( aka the world wide web ) that brought about the huge explosion in communication and networking technology that makes voice and video over the internet possible .
But I think you knew that and were just being pedantic.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, as it turns out, it actually does... Take a look at the Ars Technica article on SIP (Session Initiation Protocol) [arstechnica.com] and you'll see that SIP was modelled after HTTP [w3.org].
For those who don't know, SIP is the protocol most often used in making open video and voice calls over the internet (open as in non-proprietary.
e.g. Skype doesn't use SIP, but interestingly enough, iChat does)Of course, I think it's pretty obvious that it was HTTP and HTML (aka the world wide web) that brought about the huge explosion in communication and networking technology that makes voice and video over the internet possible.
But I think you knew that and were just being pedantic...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30981408</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30982808</id>
	<title>The Most Impressive Way to Learn a Language</title>
	<author>harlows\_monkeys</author>
	<datestamp>1265046420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><ul>
<li>Go to the library or bookstore and get several books written in the language you want to learn.</li><li>Also get several books in some other language you do not know.</li><li>Study all those books, noting patterns in the languages, and trying to figure out as much as you can.</li><li>When you finally get stuck, take out the manual for your television or microwave over or some other device. Pick a device whose manual has multiple languages, including these from items 1 and 2.</li><li>This manual is your Rosetta Stone. Use it like scholars used the real Rosetta Stone.</li></ul></htmltext>
<tokenext>Go to the library or bookstore and get several books written in the language you want to learn.Also get several books in some other language you do not know.Study all those books , noting patterns in the languages , and trying to figure out as much as you can.When you finally get stuck , take out the manual for your television or microwave over or some other device .
Pick a device whose manual has multiple languages , including these from items 1 and 2.This manual is your Rosetta Stone .
Use it like scholars used the real Rosetta Stone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Go to the library or bookstore and get several books written in the language you want to learn.Also get several books in some other language you do not know.Study all those books, noting patterns in the languages, and trying to figure out as much as you can.When you finally get stuck, take out the manual for your television or microwave over or some other device.
Pick a device whose manual has multiple languages, including these from items 1 and 2.This manual is your Rosetta Stone.
Use it like scholars used the real Rosetta Stone.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30984044</id>
	<title>For Japanese and others</title>
	<author>OpenSourced</author>
	<datestamp>1265051280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can heartily recommend this site : smart.fm It has lots of Japanese, but other languages too, and is free like in no money.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I can heartily recommend this site : smart.fm It has lots of Japanese , but other languages too , and is free like in no money .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can heartily recommend this site : smart.fm It has lots of Japanese, but other languages too, and is free like in no money.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30983502</id>
	<title>Re:How to learn a language</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265049120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hey, thanks!  This is one of the single-most helpful posts I've read on the internet in a long while.  Yay internet!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hey , thanks !
This is one of the single-most helpful posts I 've read on the internet in a long while .
Yay internet !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hey, thanks!
This is one of the single-most helpful posts I've read on the internet in a long while.
Yay internet!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30981680</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30987546</id>
	<title>Re:The best way to learn a language ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265020980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Since you already knew English, you already knew a language from the same family as Dutch and German.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Since you already knew English , you already knew a language from the same family as Dutch and German .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since you already knew English, you already knew a language from the same family as Dutch and German.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30981678</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30981240</id>
	<title>Re:Discovered for myself a few weeks ago...</title>
	<author>HappySmileMan</author>
	<datestamp>1265040240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Working on learning Irish myself, spent over ten years learning it in school and never put any effort in, now I'm regretting it just months after I've finished<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:P.<br>Worst part about these languages is the difficulty of finding people to talk with in them IMO, it seems easier to find a fluent Spanish/French/German in Ireland than an Irish speaker.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Working on learning Irish myself , spent over ten years learning it in school and never put any effort in , now I 'm regretting it just months after I 've finished : P.Worst part about these languages is the difficulty of finding people to talk with in them IMO , it seems easier to find a fluent Spanish/French/German in Ireland than an Irish speaker .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Working on learning Irish myself, spent over ten years learning it in school and never put any effort in, now I'm regretting it just months after I've finished :P.Worst part about these languages is the difficulty of finding people to talk with in them IMO, it seems easier to find a fluent Spanish/French/German in Ireland than an Irish speaker.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30981068</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30986888</id>
	<title>Making friends online</title>
	<author>coljac</author>
	<datestamp>1265018640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Some of the software or websites mentioned are good (I would also add ChinesePod to the mix if that's your language of choice) but the article failed to emphasise the amazing opportunities the internet provides to make friends and language partners, for free, from motivated learners overseas. I have studied several languages, and made internet language partner friends who I have visited and had a great time, as a bonus to getting daily language practice. These language partners can be better (and definitely more cost effective) than the paid teachers on offer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Some of the software or websites mentioned are good ( I would also add ChinesePod to the mix if that 's your language of choice ) but the article failed to emphasise the amazing opportunities the internet provides to make friends and language partners , for free , from motivated learners overseas .
I have studied several languages , and made internet language partner friends who I have visited and had a great time , as a bonus to getting daily language practice .
These language partners can be better ( and definitely more cost effective ) than the paid teachers on offer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Some of the software or websites mentioned are good (I would also add ChinesePod to the mix if that's your language of choice) but the article failed to emphasise the amazing opportunities the internet provides to make friends and language partners, for free, from motivated learners overseas.
I have studied several languages, and made internet language partner friends who I have visited and had a great time, as a bonus to getting daily language practice.
These language partners can be better (and definitely more cost effective) than the paid teachers on offer.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30981258</id>
	<title>Best Way: Getting a Girlfriend from that country</title>
	<author>viraltus</author>
	<datestamp>1265040360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You learning speed sky-rockets! The only problem is that most of you vocabulary limits to make-up and fashion and things you don't have to do.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You learning speed sky-rockets !
The only problem is that most of you vocabulary limits to make-up and fashion and things you do n't have to do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You learning speed sky-rockets!
The only problem is that most of you vocabulary limits to make-up and fashion and things you don't have to do.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30981380</id>
	<title>Re:Music, comedy and something else of interest</title>
	<author>HockeyPuck</author>
	<datestamp>1265040780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Can you give examples of English songs that someone should be listening to?  If I turned on the radio, I don't think hearing Beyonce/Eminem/Green Day/Metallica/Jay-Z/BrittneySpears would help me learn english. I can't imagine trying to pick out Farsi with a singer who's using a voice synthesizer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Can you give examples of English songs that someone should be listening to ?
If I turned on the radio , I do n't think hearing Beyonce/Eminem/Green Day/Metallica/Jay-Z/BrittneySpears would help me learn english .
I ca n't imagine trying to pick out Farsi with a singer who 's using a voice synthesizer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can you give examples of English songs that someone should be listening to?
If I turned on the radio, I don't think hearing Beyonce/Eminem/Green Day/Metallica/Jay-Z/BrittneySpears would help me learn english.
I can't imagine trying to pick out Farsi with a singer who's using a voice synthesizer.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30980986</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30982220</id>
	<title>what?</title>
	<author>circletimessquare</author>
	<datestamp>1265044200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Thanks to Tim Berners-Lee, you can now sit in your underwear in Omaha and learn French from a tutor in Paris."</p><p>this is disgusting. i'm not sure what "learn french" is slang for, but i have a clue since its done in your underwear "in omaha": obviously some variation on shibari japanese rope bondage. how puerile. and i don't think slashdot needs to be the place for yet more attention for that whore paris hilton, no matter that there is a tutor in her, or whatever is in her, has anything or anyone not been in her?</p><p>and i don't know who this Tim Berners-Lee fellow is but he's obviously some sort of pornography-addicted pervert. yet more proof the internet has been warped form the noble intentions of whoever started the internet. probably some nice science fellow working trying to better mankind with some sort of high minded science research, not this Tim Berners-Lee degenerate mentioned here</p><p>how can we stop this madness?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Thanks to Tim Berners-Lee , you can now sit in your underwear in Omaha and learn French from a tutor in Paris .
" this is disgusting .
i 'm not sure what " learn french " is slang for , but i have a clue since its done in your underwear " in omaha " : obviously some variation on shibari japanese rope bondage .
how puerile .
and i do n't think slashdot needs to be the place for yet more attention for that whore paris hilton , no matter that there is a tutor in her , or whatever is in her , has anything or anyone not been in her ? and i do n't know who this Tim Berners-Lee fellow is but he 's obviously some sort of pornography-addicted pervert .
yet more proof the internet has been warped form the noble intentions of whoever started the internet .
probably some nice science fellow working trying to better mankind with some sort of high minded science research , not this Tim Berners-Lee degenerate mentioned herehow can we stop this madness ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Thanks to Tim Berners-Lee, you can now sit in your underwear in Omaha and learn French from a tutor in Paris.
"this is disgusting.
i'm not sure what "learn french" is slang for, but i have a clue since its done in your underwear "in omaha": obviously some variation on shibari japanese rope bondage.
how puerile.
and i don't think slashdot needs to be the place for yet more attention for that whore paris hilton, no matter that there is a tutor in her, or whatever is in her, has anything or anyone not been in her?and i don't know who this Tim Berners-Lee fellow is but he's obviously some sort of pornography-addicted pervert.
yet more proof the internet has been warped form the noble intentions of whoever started the internet.
probably some nice science fellow working trying to better mankind with some sort of high minded science research, not this Tim Berners-Lee degenerate mentioned herehow can we stop this madness?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30984332</id>
	<title>Be honest</title>
	<author>T Murphy</author>
	<datestamp>1265052540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>How many of you reading this are thinking about picking up Japanese so you don't have to wait for the subbed version of your favorite anime/manga?</htmltext>
<tokenext>How many of you reading this are thinking about picking up Japanese so you do n't have to wait for the subbed version of your favorite anime/manga ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How many of you reading this are thinking about picking up Japanese so you don't have to wait for the subbed version of your favorite anime/manga?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30981680</id>
	<title>How to learn a language</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265041980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1) Go to <a href="http://fsi-language-courses.org/Content.php" title="fsi-language-courses.org">http://fsi-language-courses.org/Content.php</a> [fsi-language-courses.org] and get the free classes you want.</p><p>2) Study words using a free software like <a href="http://ichi2.net/anki/" title="ichi2.net">http://ichi2.net/anki/</a> [ichi2.net] </p><p>3) Try to live as much as possible in the language studied. Listen to music in that language, TV shows, movies, etc.</p><p>4) Make friends on a website like <a href="http://lang-8.com/" title="lang-8.com">http://lang-8.com/</a> [lang-8.com] where the goal is learn new languages. If you want to learn French, French people will correct you and speak with you over Skype and you do the same by helping them learn English.</p><p>Have fun!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 ) Go to http : //fsi-language-courses.org/Content.php [ fsi-language-courses.org ] and get the free classes you want.2 ) Study words using a free software like http : //ichi2.net/anki/ [ ichi2.net ] 3 ) Try to live as much as possible in the language studied .
Listen to music in that language , TV shows , movies , etc.4 ) Make friends on a website like http : //lang-8.com/ [ lang-8.com ] where the goal is learn new languages .
If you want to learn French , French people will correct you and speak with you over Skype and you do the same by helping them learn English.Have fun !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1) Go to http://fsi-language-courses.org/Content.php [fsi-language-courses.org] and get the free classes you want.2) Study words using a free software like http://ichi2.net/anki/ [ichi2.net] 3) Try to live as much as possible in the language studied.
Listen to music in that language, TV shows, movies, etc.4) Make friends on a website like http://lang-8.com/ [lang-8.com] where the goal is learn new languages.
If you want to learn French, French people will correct you and speak with you over Skype and you do the same by helping them learn English.Have fun!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30981698</id>
	<title>Def Jam</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265042040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>[Stand-up] comedy will give you more of an insight into the culture (and culturally applicable words) since most comedians<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... use good vocabulary.</i> <p>I guess you've never seen Def Jam?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>[ Stand-up ] comedy will give you more of an insight into the culture ( and culturally applicable words ) since most comedians ... use good vocabulary .
I guess you 've never seen Def Jam ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>[Stand-up] comedy will give you more of an insight into the culture (and culturally applicable words) since most comedians ... use good vocabulary.
I guess you've never seen Def Jam?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30982196</id>
	<title>Re:Music, comedy and something else of interest</title>
	<author>digitig</author>
	<datestamp>1265044080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I have found that two of the best free ways to learn a foreign language online is to listen to music in that language as well as watching stand up comedy in it.</p></div><p>I think it was James Blish who had a character in one of his books learn Italian from grand opera. When he got to Rome he found that he couldn't buy a newspaper without giving the impression that he would throw himself into the Tiber if the vendor didn't have the right edition.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have found that two of the best free ways to learn a foreign language online is to listen to music in that language as well as watching stand up comedy in it.I think it was James Blish who had a character in one of his books learn Italian from grand opera .
When he got to Rome he found that he could n't buy a newspaper without giving the impression that he would throw himself into the Tiber if the vendor did n't have the right edition .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have found that two of the best free ways to learn a foreign language online is to listen to music in that language as well as watching stand up comedy in it.I think it was James Blish who had a character in one of his books learn Italian from grand opera.
When he got to Rome he found that he couldn't buy a newspaper without giving the impression that he would throw himself into the Tiber if the vendor didn't have the right edition.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30985712</id>
	<title>Re:Music, comedy and something else of interest</title>
	<author>K. S. Kyosuke</author>
	<datestamp>1265057940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Can you give examples of English songs that someone should be listening to?</p></div><p>Anything from Paul Simon?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Can you give examples of English songs that someone should be listening to ? Anything from Paul Simon ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can you give examples of English songs that someone should be listening to?Anything from Paul Simon?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30982286</id>
	<title>Skype Video</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265044380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>FTFA:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>you can now sit in your underwear in Omaha and learn French from a tutor in Paris</p></div><p>With the advent of Skype's video support, I'm pretty sure that the "in your underwear" part is not appreciated by said Parisian tutor.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>FTFA : you can now sit in your underwear in Omaha and learn French from a tutor in ParisWith the advent of Skype 's video support , I 'm pretty sure that the " in your underwear " part is not appreciated by said Parisian tutor .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>FTFA:you can now sit in your underwear in Omaha and learn French from a tutor in ParisWith the advent of Skype's video support, I'm pretty sure that the "in your underwear" part is not appreciated by said Parisian tutor.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30983622</id>
	<title>Re:Music, comedy and something else of interest</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265049660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Bob Dylan sings in English? I've never heard him sing in anything other than Simlish.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Bob Dylan sings in English ?
I 've never heard him sing in anything other than Simlish .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bob Dylan sings in English?
I've never heard him sing in anything other than Simlish.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30981454</id>
	<title>PLATO</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265041080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oh I don't know<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... Fall of 1979, sitting in the darkened computer labs at U of I learning languages off the orange plasma displays<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... that wasn't so bad.  And the best part was you could always drop into a game of Empire when you needed a break.  Try that with these newfangled web technologies<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... those were good days, my friends<nobr> <wbr></nobr>....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh I do n't know ... Fall of 1979 , sitting in the darkened computer labs at U of I learning languages off the orange plasma displays ... that was n't so bad .
And the best part was you could always drop into a game of Empire when you needed a break .
Try that with these newfangled web technologies ... those were good days , my friends ... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh I don't know ... Fall of 1979, sitting in the darkened computer labs at U of I learning languages off the orange plasma displays ... that wasn't so bad.
And the best part was you could always drop into a game of Empire when you needed a break.
Try that with these newfangled web technologies ... those were good days, my friends ....</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30981918</id>
	<title>Re:Music, comedy and something else of interest</title>
	<author>AmElder</author>
	<datestamp>1265042880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes.  I have a system that works for me that is similar.  It uses freely available on-line resources and is cheaper than some of the on-line courses too.</p><ul>
<li>Practice daily.  Put aside half an hour before you go to bed and practice every single day.</li><li>Use several senses.  Listen to web radio or podcasts and talk along with it.  Many national radio systems broadcast simple news magazines for non-native speakers.  Read the newspaper out loud to yourself or download out-of-copyright books from Gutenburg.  Stay active while you're learning: clean dishes, do push-ups, etc.</li><li>Fit a bit of practice in odd moments of the day.  On the commute, while cooking, or on the can.</li></ul><p>And that's it.  Cheap and easy.  By doing this, at the end of a year I can hold carry on an abstract conversation with a native speaker.  My grandfather did something similar and learned 10 languages without ever leaving his country.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes .
I have a system that works for me that is similar .
It uses freely available on-line resources and is cheaper than some of the on-line courses too .
Practice daily .
Put aside half an hour before you go to bed and practice every single day.Use several senses .
Listen to web radio or podcasts and talk along with it .
Many national radio systems broadcast simple news magazines for non-native speakers .
Read the newspaper out loud to yourself or download out-of-copyright books from Gutenburg .
Stay active while you 're learning : clean dishes , do push-ups , etc.Fit a bit of practice in odd moments of the day .
On the commute , while cooking , or on the can.And that 's it .
Cheap and easy .
By doing this , at the end of a year I can hold carry on an abstract conversation with a native speaker .
My grandfather did something similar and learned 10 languages without ever leaving his country .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes.
I have a system that works for me that is similar.
It uses freely available on-line resources and is cheaper than some of the on-line courses too.
Practice daily.
Put aside half an hour before you go to bed and practice every single day.Use several senses.
Listen to web radio or podcasts and talk along with it.
Many national radio systems broadcast simple news magazines for non-native speakers.
Read the newspaper out loud to yourself or download out-of-copyright books from Gutenburg.
Stay active while you're learning: clean dishes, do push-ups, etc.Fit a bit of practice in odd moments of the day.
On the commute, while cooking, or on the can.And that's it.
Cheap and easy.
By doing this, at the end of a year I can hold carry on an abstract conversation with a native speaker.
My grandfather did something similar and learned 10 languages without ever leaving his country.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30980986</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30983988</id>
	<title>Re:Time to start learning Chinese</title>
	<author>TheRaven64</author>
	<datestamp>1265051040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You don't, it's implicit.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You do n't , it 's implicit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You don't, it's implicit.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30982780</id>
	<title>Re:Music, comedy and something else of interest</title>
	<author>Inda</author>
	<datestamp>1265046240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have a real problem talking to foreigners on a social level because of my slang. I try hard to tone it down but fail every time, innit?<br><br>I can't help the slang, or the local way of speaking, you. (UK, west country with a hint of mockney, some west midlands thrown in for good measure, and some Geordie because of the railways workers who came to my town many years ago, like). I finish sentences with "innit you" or "ah boy" or "like" and people struggle - ju know what I'm sayin' like?<br><br>And then there's the accent that I try and hide. No "T" and no "R" sounds. Butter does not sound like butter when I say it. Bu'aa.<br><br>When the mockney creeps out, there are no "Th" sounds. They are hard "F" sounds. Fink them foreigners cope well, you?<br><br>So, all the people suggesting these sites where you have 1-to-1 sessions with foreigners, just make sure you don't find someone like me to teach you English. You'll end up sounding like a street wise farmer.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a real problem talking to foreigners on a social level because of my slang .
I try hard to tone it down but fail every time , innit ? I ca n't help the slang , or the local way of speaking , you .
( UK , west country with a hint of mockney , some west midlands thrown in for good measure , and some Geordie because of the railways workers who came to my town many years ago , like ) .
I finish sentences with " innit you " or " ah boy " or " like " and people struggle - ju know what I 'm sayin ' like ? And then there 's the accent that I try and hide .
No " T " and no " R " sounds .
Butter does not sound like butter when I say it .
Bu'aa.When the mockney creeps out , there are no " Th " sounds .
They are hard " F " sounds .
Fink them foreigners cope well , you ? So , all the people suggesting these sites where you have 1-to-1 sessions with foreigners , just make sure you do n't find someone like me to teach you English .
You 'll end up sounding like a street wise farmer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a real problem talking to foreigners on a social level because of my slang.
I try hard to tone it down but fail every time, innit?I can't help the slang, or the local way of speaking, you.
(UK, west country with a hint of mockney, some west midlands thrown in for good measure, and some Geordie because of the railways workers who came to my town many years ago, like).
I finish sentences with "innit you" or "ah boy" or "like" and people struggle - ju know what I'm sayin' like?And then there's the accent that I try and hide.
No "T" and no "R" sounds.
Butter does not sound like butter when I say it.
Bu'aa.When the mockney creeps out, there are no "Th" sounds.
They are hard "F" sounds.
Fink them foreigners cope well, you?So, all the people suggesting these sites where you have 1-to-1 sessions with foreigners, just make sure you don't find someone like me to teach you English.
You'll end up sounding like a street wise farmer.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30997646</id>
	<title>Minority languages using the web to play catch-up</title>
	<author>aranjones</author>
	<datestamp>1265134200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>One of the interesting things happening online that this article doesn't touch on is the way in which minority languages (which have traditionally been quite poorly served by the market, because they are not large enough to justify much expenditure on course development) are using the internet to offer better quality courses - usually a lot cheaper than the big players like Rosetta Stone.
<br> <br>
One example is a course for learning Welsh called <a href="http://www.saysomethinginwelsh.com/" title="saysomethinginwelsh.com" rel="nofollow">www.SaySomethinginWelsh.com</a> [saysomethinginwelsh.com] which I put together with some friends of mine.  We're language activists, so we wanted to provide new materials that aren't otherwise available in Welsh - and the internet makes it possible for us to distribute them more or less for free.  We give a 13 hour oral course (similar to Pimsleur or Michel Thomas, although of course we'd like to believe that it's a bit better!...;-)) for free.
<br> <br>
Our server costs are covered by a small number of people who pay a few pounds a month for access to daily practice sessions - but we give a couple of practice sessions away for free each week as well.
<br> <br>
It's going to be interesting to see if more minority languages follow in this kind of direction.  I don't think anyone ought to have to pay 100s of dollars to learn another language...</htmltext>
<tokenext>One of the interesting things happening online that this article does n't touch on is the way in which minority languages ( which have traditionally been quite poorly served by the market , because they are not large enough to justify much expenditure on course development ) are using the internet to offer better quality courses - usually a lot cheaper than the big players like Rosetta Stone .
One example is a course for learning Welsh called www.SaySomethinginWelsh.com [ saysomethinginwelsh.com ] which I put together with some friends of mine .
We 're language activists , so we wanted to provide new materials that are n't otherwise available in Welsh - and the internet makes it possible for us to distribute them more or less for free .
We give a 13 hour oral course ( similar to Pimsleur or Michel Thomas , although of course we 'd like to believe that it 's a bit better ! .. .
; - ) ) for free .
Our server costs are covered by a small number of people who pay a few pounds a month for access to daily practice sessions - but we give a couple of practice sessions away for free each week as well .
It 's going to be interesting to see if more minority languages follow in this kind of direction .
I do n't think anyone ought to have to pay 100s of dollars to learn another language.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One of the interesting things happening online that this article doesn't touch on is the way in which minority languages (which have traditionally been quite poorly served by the market, because they are not large enough to justify much expenditure on course development) are using the internet to offer better quality courses - usually a lot cheaper than the big players like Rosetta Stone.
One example is a course for learning Welsh called www.SaySomethinginWelsh.com [saysomethinginwelsh.com] which I put together with some friends of mine.
We're language activists, so we wanted to provide new materials that aren't otherwise available in Welsh - and the internet makes it possible for us to distribute them more or less for free.
We give a 13 hour oral course (similar to Pimsleur or Michel Thomas, although of course we'd like to believe that it's a bit better!...
;-)) for free.
Our server costs are covered by a small number of people who pay a few pounds a month for access to daily practice sessions - but we give a couple of practice sessions away for free each week as well.
It's going to be interesting to see if more minority languages follow in this kind of direction.
I don't think anyone ought to have to pay 100s of dollars to learn another language...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30981826</id>
	<title>Re:Hmmm...</title>
	<author>IBBoard</author>
	<datestamp>1265042520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That works well until you can't remember what something says and can't remember how to get to the menu to switch it back to your native language! I've done it by accident before now (switched a device to Portuguese or something) and had to hunt down a manual to find the "put it back to English" option just by clicking and not reading.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That works well until you ca n't remember what something says and ca n't remember how to get to the menu to switch it back to your native language !
I 've done it by accident before now ( switched a device to Portuguese or something ) and had to hunt down a manual to find the " put it back to English " option just by clicking and not reading .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That works well until you can't remember what something says and can't remember how to get to the menu to switch it back to your native language!
I've done it by accident before now (switched a device to Portuguese or something) and had to hunt down a manual to find the "put it back to English" option just by clicking and not reading.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30984250</id>
	<title>Re:Music, comedy and something else of interest</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265052120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>but what if i want to learn German ?</p><p>Um Paa Paa music with no vocals....<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.... and German comedy..... ?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>but what if i want to learn German ? Um Paa Paa music with no vocals.... .... and German comedy..... ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>but what if i want to learn German ?Um Paa Paa music with no vocals.... .... and German comedy..... ?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30982064</id>
	<title>WTF?</title>
	<author>Infiniti2000</author>
	<datestamp>1265043540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Who wants to learn French from a tutor over a webcam?!  I want that French tutor in the same room with me, baby!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Who wants to learn French from a tutor over a webcam ? !
I want that French tutor in the same room with me , baby !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who wants to learn French from a tutor over a webcam?!
I want that French tutor in the same room with me, baby!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30988992</id>
	<title>Re:Music, comedy and something else of interest</title>
	<author>Eil</author>
	<datestamp>1265027040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>IRC or other online chatting systems can also help validate what you have learned and help you improve your conversation skills.</p></div></blockquote><p>I just have to say, even on the more "mature" channels, IRC is really more likely to damage one's understanding of a language than help it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>IRC or other online chatting systems can also help validate what you have learned and help you improve your conversation skills.I just have to say , even on the more " mature " channels , IRC is really more likely to damage one 's understanding of a language than help it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>IRC or other online chatting systems can also help validate what you have learned and help you improve your conversation skills.I just have to say, even on the more "mature" channels, IRC is really more likely to damage one's understanding of a language than help it.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30982078</id>
	<title>Cantar es Mejor</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265043600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Busca las canciones que mas te gusten, traducelas con un diccionario<br>o busca alguien que te ayude y ponte a cantar y veras que r&#225;pidamente<br>aprendes, yo aprend&#237; Ingles de esa forma, pero Ingles es f&#225;cil<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Busca las canciones que mas te gusten , traducelas con un diccionarioo busca alguien que te ayude y ponte a cantar y veras que r   pidamenteaprendes , yo aprend   Ingles de esa forma , pero Ingles es f   cil : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Busca las canciones que mas te gusten, traducelas con un diccionarioo busca alguien que te ayude y ponte a cantar y veras que rápidamenteaprendes, yo aprendí Ingles de esa forma, pero Ingles es fácil :)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30982494</id>
	<title>Re:A very geek way to learn greek.</title>
	<author>Xinvoker</author>
	<datestamp>1265045160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I am greek and i can tell you there are many mistakes in this dialogue, as well as unrealistic use of words (nobody thanks you because you greeted them).</htmltext>
<tokenext>I am greek and i can tell you there are many mistakes in this dialogue , as well as unrealistic use of words ( nobody thanks you because you greeted them ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am greek and i can tell you there are many mistakes in this dialogue, as well as unrealistic use of words (nobody thanks you because you greeted them).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30983468</id>
	<title>Re:Music, comedy and something else of interest</title>
	<author>Yvan256</author>
	<datestamp>1265049000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>On that topic, don't try to learn Japanese by listening to Hatsune Miku.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>On that topic , do n't try to learn Japanese by listening to Hatsune Miku .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On that topic, don't try to learn Japanese by listening to Hatsune Miku.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30982172</id>
	<title>Immersion</title>
	<author>vampire\_baozi</author>
	<datestamp>1265043960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is still the best way to learn any language.  Watching media, listening to music, talking with people, reading and writing the language... doing anything that increases your daily exposure to the language.  Naturally going to that country is your best bet, live with a host family, and do your best to forget your mother tongue for a year.  A Chinese friend of mine speaks perfectly fluent German, simply from living there for a year with a family, despite not evening knowing "Guten tag" upon arrival (she didn't even have much background in English to help with Germanic language grammar).</p><p>As someone else mentioned, music*, books, movies, comedy.... and just meet people from that country/region.  A computer will only be effective if you use it for absurdly long amounts of time.  You can never learn a language effectively for an hour a day- live the language, breathe it, and most importantly, USE it.  At first you'll be learning to say "How do I say, 'I'm late' in X?" and later be wondering how to make complex philosophical arguments in said language.  It's a process of natural acquisition, at any age.</p><p>*Music not recommended for Chinese or other tonal languages.  You get the sounds, but not the tones.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is still the best way to learn any language .
Watching media , listening to music , talking with people , reading and writing the language... doing anything that increases your daily exposure to the language .
Naturally going to that country is your best bet , live with a host family , and do your best to forget your mother tongue for a year .
A Chinese friend of mine speaks perfectly fluent German , simply from living there for a year with a family , despite not evening knowing " Guten tag " upon arrival ( she did n't even have much background in English to help with Germanic language grammar ) .As someone else mentioned , music * , books , movies , comedy.... and just meet people from that country/region .
A computer will only be effective if you use it for absurdly long amounts of time .
You can never learn a language effectively for an hour a day- live the language , breathe it , and most importantly , USE it .
At first you 'll be learning to say " How do I say , 'I 'm late ' in X ?
" and later be wondering how to make complex philosophical arguments in said language .
It 's a process of natural acquisition , at any age .
* Music not recommended for Chinese or other tonal languages .
You get the sounds , but not the tones .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is still the best way to learn any language.
Watching media, listening to music, talking with people, reading and writing the language... doing anything that increases your daily exposure to the language.
Naturally going to that country is your best bet, live with a host family, and do your best to forget your mother tongue for a year.
A Chinese friend of mine speaks perfectly fluent German, simply from living there for a year with a family, despite not evening knowing "Guten tag" upon arrival (she didn't even have much background in English to help with Germanic language grammar).As someone else mentioned, music*, books, movies, comedy.... and just meet people from that country/region.
A computer will only be effective if you use it for absurdly long amounts of time.
You can never learn a language effectively for an hour a day- live the language, breathe it, and most importantly, USE it.
At first you'll be learning to say "How do I say, 'I'm late' in X?
" and later be wondering how to make complex philosophical arguments in said language.
It's a process of natural acquisition, at any age.
*Music not recommended for Chinese or other tonal languages.
You get the sounds, but not the tones.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Hmmm...</title>
	<author>hkdm</author>
	<datestamp>1265040180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've also found it useful to change every interface that I use into the language that I'm learning. For instance, I've changed my PS3, iPod, and various websites into my desired language. For Asian languages it helps a lot with reading, and I've already increased my reading speed as a result. I would say it's a good supplement to a standard language course.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've also found it useful to change every interface that I use into the language that I 'm learning .
For instance , I 've changed my PS3 , iPod , and various websites into my desired language .
For Asian languages it helps a lot with reading , and I 've already increased my reading speed as a result .
I would say it 's a good supplement to a standard language course .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've also found it useful to change every interface that I use into the language that I'm learning.
For instance, I've changed my PS3, iPod, and various websites into my desired language.
For Asian languages it helps a lot with reading, and I've already increased my reading speed as a result.
I would say it's a good supplement to a standard language course.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30982944</id>
	<title>Re:How to learn a language</title>
	<author>Eli Gottlieb</author>
	<datestamp>1265046900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, lang-8 actually looks pretty interesting.  Thanks for the link, I've needed a way to maintain my Hebrew.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , lang-8 actually looks pretty interesting .
Thanks for the link , I 've needed a way to maintain my Hebrew .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, lang-8 actually looks pretty interesting.
Thanks for the link, I've needed a way to maintain my Hebrew.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30988140</id>
	<title>Re:Music, comedy and something else of interest</title>
	<author>QuestionsNotAnswers</author>
	<datestamp>1265023560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I far prefer speaking with foreigners that have a something different from a US accent or BBC accent. Irish, Ozzie, Jordie, whatever.</p><p>It is usually a good sign that they have learnt the language by immersion, rather than by reading.</p><p>I find that when I speak with people that have learnt english by using books, they never recover from the errors that occur (many errors are grossly obvious that they are due to thinking, rather than listening).</p><p>I agree with other posters that singing, watching vids, watching movies, internet chat or anying so long as it is learning by ear is preferable than by mind. Be like a child, learn like a child, and speak a language properly.</p><p>I suspect geeks are especially susceptible to trying to learn via other unnatural cerebral routes and stuffing it up!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I far prefer speaking with foreigners that have a something different from a US accent or BBC accent .
Irish , Ozzie , Jordie , whatever.It is usually a good sign that they have learnt the language by immersion , rather than by reading.I find that when I speak with people that have learnt english by using books , they never recover from the errors that occur ( many errors are grossly obvious that they are due to thinking , rather than listening ) .I agree with other posters that singing , watching vids , watching movies , internet chat or anying so long as it is learning by ear is preferable than by mind .
Be like a child , learn like a child , and speak a language properly.I suspect geeks are especially susceptible to trying to learn via other unnatural cerebral routes and stuffing it up !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I far prefer speaking with foreigners that have a something different from a US accent or BBC accent.
Irish, Ozzie, Jordie, whatever.It is usually a good sign that they have learnt the language by immersion, rather than by reading.I find that when I speak with people that have learnt english by using books, they never recover from the errors that occur (many errors are grossly obvious that they are due to thinking, rather than listening).I agree with other posters that singing, watching vids, watching movies, internet chat or anying so long as it is learning by ear is preferable than by mind.
Be like a child, learn like a child, and speak a language properly.I suspect geeks are especially susceptible to trying to learn via other unnatural cerebral routes and stuffing it up!</sentencetext>
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	<title>A very geek way to learn greek.</title>
	<author>Tei</author>
	<datestamp>1265039940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have a friend that is writting a greek learning tutorial... in greek.  It follow the philosophy that to learn X, you start using X.</p><p>Here is:<br><a href="http://sites.google.com/site/mathainoellenika/home/1---kalimera-1" title="google.com">http://sites.google.com/site/mathainoellenika/home/1---kalimera-1</a> [google.com]</p><p>He just started, so is just the first steps...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a friend that is writting a greek learning tutorial... in greek .
It follow the philosophy that to learn X , you start using X.Here is : http : //sites.google.com/site/mathainoellenika/home/1---kalimera-1 [ google.com ] He just started , so is just the first steps.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a friend that is writting a greek learning tutorial... in greek.
It follow the philosophy that to learn X, you start using X.Here is:http://sites.google.com/site/mathainoellenika/home/1---kalimera-1 [google.com]He just started, so is just the first steps...</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Music, comedy and something else of interest</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265045100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p> I live in Germany and exclusively watch US TV because German TV is shit.</p></div></blockquote><p>True, German TV "entertainment" is bizarro world US TV. Letterman knockoffs, Judge Judy knockoffs etc. Any moderately successful US show has a crappy German clone, with or without license. An exception is CSI, the original franchise is crappy enough for us Germans so we have only dubbed that. We have also bizarro Fox News, by which I mean normal news.</p><blockquote><div><p> (And German IT sites for that matter).</p></div></blockquote><p>Sorry, but heise.de &gt; slashdot, that's a scientific fact.</p></div>
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<tokenext>I live in Germany and exclusively watch US TV because German TV is shit.True , German TV " entertainment " is bizarro world US TV .
Letterman knockoffs , Judge Judy knockoffs etc .
Any moderately successful US show has a crappy German clone , with or without license .
An exception is CSI , the original franchise is crappy enough for us Germans so we have only dubbed that .
We have also bizarro Fox News , by which I mean normal news .
( And German IT sites for that matter ) .Sorry , but heise.de &gt; slashdot , that 's a scientific fact .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> I live in Germany and exclusively watch US TV because German TV is shit.True, German TV "entertainment" is bizarro world US TV.
Letterman knockoffs, Judge Judy knockoffs etc.
Any moderately successful US show has a crappy German clone, with or without license.
An exception is CSI, the original franchise is crappy enough for us Germans so we have only dubbed that.
We have also bizarro Fox News, by which I mean normal news.
(And German IT sites for that matter).Sorry, but heise.de &gt; slashdot, that's a scientific fact.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30988784</id>
	<title>Re:The best way to learn a language ...</title>
	<author>jonaskoelker</author>
	<datestamp>1265026140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The good news is that once you learn a language from a given family it's a lot easier to learn other languages of the same family due to the similarities in the grammar, words and even whole expressions. I can now understand some German because of knowing Dutch.</p></div><p>I echo that sentiment: knowing Danish (natively), English and German, I can grasp the meaning of Dutch, though only when written---spoken in a normal tempo it's too fast for me.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The good news is that once you learn a language from a given family it 's a lot easier to learn other languages of the same family due to the similarities in the grammar , words and even whole expressions .
I can now understand some German because of knowing Dutch.I echo that sentiment : knowing Danish ( natively ) , English and German , I can grasp the meaning of Dutch , though only when written---spoken in a normal tempo it 's too fast for me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The good news is that once you learn a language from a given family it's a lot easier to learn other languages of the same family due to the similarities in the grammar, words and even whole expressions.
I can now understand some German because of knowing Dutch.I echo that sentiment: knowing Danish (natively), English and German, I can grasp the meaning of Dutch, though only when written---spoken in a normal tempo it's too fast for me.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30982128</id>
	<title>Re:Music, comedy and something else of interest</title>
	<author>elnyka</author>
	<datestamp>1265043720000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Can you give examples of English songs that someone should be listening to?  If I turned on the radio, I don't think hearing Beyonce/Eminem/Green Day/Metallica/Jay-Z/BrittneySpears would help me learn english. I can't imagine trying to pick out Farsi with a singer who's using a voice synthesizer.</p></div><p>Frank Sinatra? Barry White? Or perhaps someone  more recent like Billy Ocean, Lionel Ritchie, Stevie Wonder, Heart</p><p>

If all you know is cheap pop culture, then obviously everything will sound either as

</p><ul>
<li> <i>"yo, yo, mama, you, shake dah shit, mah crew wanna pop littl' furry thang!"</i>, or</li><li> <i>WAAAAAR, IT'S ALL FOOBARRRR, DIE11111!!! UGGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!</i></li>
</ul><p>


Shit, we don't even have to look for famous singers. Children songs are an excellent way to learn correct pronunciation (given that children songs tend to teach that.) If all you have is a hammer, everything is going to kinda like oh my god look like a nail cuz you know your like kinda have a hammer with a synthezizer cuz they are like the bomb lol.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Can you give examples of English songs that someone should be listening to ?
If I turned on the radio , I do n't think hearing Beyonce/Eminem/Green Day/Metallica/Jay-Z/BrittneySpears would help me learn english .
I ca n't imagine trying to pick out Farsi with a singer who 's using a voice synthesizer.Frank Sinatra ?
Barry White ?
Or perhaps someone more recent like Billy Ocean , Lionel Ritchie , Stevie Wonder , Heart If all you know is cheap pop culture , then obviously everything will sound either as " yo , yo , mama , you , shake dah shit , mah crew wan na pop littl ' furry thang !
" , or WAAAAAR , IT 'S ALL FOOBARRRR , DIE11111 ! ! !
UGGGGGGGHHHHHHH ! ! ! Shit , we do n't even have to look for famous singers .
Children songs are an excellent way to learn correct pronunciation ( given that children songs tend to teach that .
) If all you have is a hammer , everything is going to kinda like oh my god look like a nail cuz you know your like kinda have a hammer with a synthezizer cuz they are like the bomb lol .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can you give examples of English songs that someone should be listening to?
If I turned on the radio, I don't think hearing Beyonce/Eminem/Green Day/Metallica/Jay-Z/BrittneySpears would help me learn english.
I can't imagine trying to pick out Farsi with a singer who's using a voice synthesizer.Frank Sinatra?
Barry White?
Or perhaps someone  more recent like Billy Ocean, Lionel Ritchie, Stevie Wonder, Heart

If all you know is cheap pop culture, then obviously everything will sound either as


 "yo, yo, mama, you, shake dah shit, mah crew wanna pop littl' furry thang!
", or WAAAAAR, IT'S ALL FOOBARRRR, DIE11111!!!
UGGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!



Shit, we don't even have to look for famous singers.
Children songs are an excellent way to learn correct pronunciation (given that children songs tend to teach that.
) If all you have is a hammer, everything is going to kinda like oh my god look like a nail cuz you know your like kinda have a hammer with a synthezizer cuz they are like the bomb lol.
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	<title>lol @ this articel</title>
	<author>carlhaagen</author>
	<datestamp>1265040000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>i think we all kno how the web way to learn languege turns out from lookin at how the young netizen ppl write n speak today lol its a desaster</htmltext>
<tokenext>i think we all kno how the web way to learn languege turns out from lookin at how the young netizen ppl write n speak today lol its a desaster</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i think we all kno how the web way to learn languege turns out from lookin at how the young netizen ppl write n speak today lol its a desaster</sentencetext>
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	<title>Michel Tomas method also works well</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265043600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I recently started using the Michel Thomas method to learn french and can attest that it's an incredibly efficient way to learn the language -- as long as I spend a couple hours a day practicing or listening to french radio (BBC Afrique is great for this).  Early on dedication is really important -- skip a few days and you lose a lot.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I recently started using the Michel Thomas method to learn french and can attest that it 's an incredibly efficient way to learn the language -- as long as I spend a couple hours a day practicing or listening to french radio ( BBC Afrique is great for this ) .
Early on dedication is really important -- skip a few days and you lose a lot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I recently started using the Michel Thomas method to learn french and can attest that it's an incredibly efficient way to learn the language -- as long as I spend a couple hours a day practicing or listening to french radio (BBC Afrique is great for this).
Early on dedication is really important -- skip a few days and you lose a lot.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Discovered for myself a few weeks ago...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265039580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
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	<htmltext>I found this for myself a few weeks ago, and have been slowly working on learning Scottish Gaelic.<br><br>It's a lot more fun than when I was forced to learn Spanish in high school.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I found this for myself a few weeks ago , and have been slowly working on learning Scottish Gaelic.It 's a lot more fun than when I was forced to learn Spanish in high school .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I found this for myself a few weeks ago, and have been slowly working on learning Scottish Gaelic.It's a lot more fun than when I was forced to learn Spanish in high school.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Language podcasts are also pretty cool</title>
	<author>spike2131</author>
	<datestamp>1265041740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've been quite happy with <a href="http://coffeebreakfrench.com/" title="coffeebreakfrench.com">Coffee Break French.</a> [coffeebreakfrench.com]. That company has lots of other language podcasts as well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been quite happy with Coffee Break French .
[ coffeebreakfrench.com ] . That company has lots of other language podcasts as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been quite happy with Coffee Break French.
[coffeebreakfrench.com]. That company has lots of other language podcasts as well.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Music, comedy and something else of interest</title>
	<author>ChienAndalu</author>
	<datestamp>1265041680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Movies and television. I live in Germany and exclusively watch US TV because German TV is shit.</p><p>(And German IT sites for that matter).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Movies and television .
I live in Germany and exclusively watch US TV because German TV is shit .
( And German IT sites for that matter ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Movies and television.
I live in Germany and exclusively watch US TV because German TV is shit.
(And German IT sites for that matter).</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Music, comedy and something else of interest</title>
	<author>FrenchSilk</author>
	<datestamp>1265016420000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>What I would prefer is movies that have subtitles in two languages simultaneously, my own and that of the speaker.  I have much more difficulty understanding spoken Spanish, for example, than printed Spanish because my ear is not well tuned to the spoken words.  Once I know what words are being spoken I often understand what is being said.  And if I don't, the English translation will help with that.</htmltext>
<tokenext>What I would prefer is movies that have subtitles in two languages simultaneously , my own and that of the speaker .
I have much more difficulty understanding spoken Spanish , for example , than printed Spanish because my ear is not well tuned to the spoken words .
Once I know what words are being spoken I often understand what is being said .
And if I do n't , the English translation will help with that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What I would prefer is movies that have subtitles in two languages simultaneously, my own and that of the speaker.
I have much more difficulty understanding spoken Spanish, for example, than printed Spanish because my ear is not well tuned to the spoken words.
Once I know what words are being spoken I often understand what is being said.
And if I don't, the English translation will help with that.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Music, comedy and something else of interest</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265039280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have found that two of the best free ways to learn a foreign language online is to listen to music in that language as well as watching stand up comedy in it.</p><p>The music gives you something catchy to repeat and will allow you to memorize certain words, common phrases, etc. while the comedy will give you more of an insight into the culture (and culturally applicable words) since most comedians criticize or magnify people's behavior, discuss current topics and issues and usually use good vocabulary.</p><p>Youtube can generally take care of those two.</p><p>If you can also find websites that cover a topic you're interested and have a background in (e.g. programming or math) in that language, it won't be as harsh of a transition as you'll know about the topic before hand or you'd be very interested in it which allow you to translate your knowledge in that domain, gaining you more vocabulary/grammar.</p><p>This obviously doesn't work across the board and you may need a book or some formal training for the basics to be able to distinguish between slang and proper use of the language. But if you're already on your way (and with the abundance of free online dictionaries) it can be a huge push forward.</p><p>IRC or other online chatting systems can also help validate what you have learned and help you improve your conversation skills.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have found that two of the best free ways to learn a foreign language online is to listen to music in that language as well as watching stand up comedy in it.The music gives you something catchy to repeat and will allow you to memorize certain words , common phrases , etc .
while the comedy will give you more of an insight into the culture ( and culturally applicable words ) since most comedians criticize or magnify people 's behavior , discuss current topics and issues and usually use good vocabulary.Youtube can generally take care of those two.If you can also find websites that cover a topic you 're interested and have a background in ( e.g .
programming or math ) in that language , it wo n't be as harsh of a transition as you 'll know about the topic before hand or you 'd be very interested in it which allow you to translate your knowledge in that domain , gaining you more vocabulary/grammar.This obviously does n't work across the board and you may need a book or some formal training for the basics to be able to distinguish between slang and proper use of the language .
But if you 're already on your way ( and with the abundance of free online dictionaries ) it can be a huge push forward.IRC or other online chatting systems can also help validate what you have learned and help you improve your conversation skills .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have found that two of the best free ways to learn a foreign language online is to listen to music in that language as well as watching stand up comedy in it.The music gives you something catchy to repeat and will allow you to memorize certain words, common phrases, etc.
while the comedy will give you more of an insight into the culture (and culturally applicable words) since most comedians criticize or magnify people's behavior, discuss current topics and issues and usually use good vocabulary.Youtube can generally take care of those two.If you can also find websites that cover a topic you're interested and have a background in (e.g.
programming or math) in that language, it won't be as harsh of a transition as you'll know about the topic before hand or you'd be very interested in it which allow you to translate your knowledge in that domain, gaining you more vocabulary/grammar.This obviously doesn't work across the board and you may need a book or some formal training for the basics to be able to distinguish between slang and proper use of the language.
But if you're already on your way (and with the abundance of free online dictionaries) it can be a huge push forward.IRC or other online chatting systems can also help validate what you have learned and help you improve your conversation skills.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30986278</id>
	<title>Some more resources</title>
	<author>teklob</author>
	<datestamp>1265016540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The article doesn't mention <a href="http://www.sharedtalk.com/" title="sharedtalk.com">http://www.sharedtalk.com/</a> [sharedtalk.com] - a free service offered by Rosetta Stone that allows you to chat via text or voice with other people. You enter your native languages and practicing languages, and find people to talk to. Works quite well.<p>

 I've been meaning to get through some more rosetta stone mandarin lessons... </p><p>

If you're interested in mandarin in particular, this guy also has some cool info including a list of the 3000 most used characters, ranked by how common they are. Supposedly 3000 is the magic number for reading your average Chinese newspaper.
<a href="http://www.zein.se/patrick/3000char.html" title="www.zein.se">http://www.zein.se/patrick/3000char.html</a> [www.zein.se]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The article does n't mention http : //www.sharedtalk.com/ [ sharedtalk.com ] - a free service offered by Rosetta Stone that allows you to chat via text or voice with other people .
You enter your native languages and practicing languages , and find people to talk to .
Works quite well .
I 've been meaning to get through some more rosetta stone mandarin lessons.. . If you 're interested in mandarin in particular , this guy also has some cool info including a list of the 3000 most used characters , ranked by how common they are .
Supposedly 3000 is the magic number for reading your average Chinese newspaper .
http : //www.zein.se/patrick/3000char.html [ www.zein.se ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The article doesn't mention http://www.sharedtalk.com/ [sharedtalk.com] - a free service offered by Rosetta Stone that allows you to chat via text or voice with other people.
You enter your native languages and practicing languages, and find people to talk to.
Works quite well.
I've been meaning to get through some more rosetta stone mandarin lessons... 

If you're interested in mandarin in particular, this guy also has some cool info including a list of the 3000 most used characters, ranked by how common they are.
Supposedly 3000 is the magic number for reading your average Chinese newspaper.
http://www.zein.se/patrick/3000char.html [www.zein.se]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30984758</id>
	<title>Re:Music, comedy and something else of interest</title>
	<author>mopower70</author>
	<datestamp>1265054640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I have found that two of the best free ways to learn a foreign language online is to listen to music in that language </p></div><p>I can't understand 90\% of the lyrics in my own language so I doubt this would be very helpful.  I have to admit I've picked up quite a few phrases in Italian from watching Rocco Siffredi in action, though that's not normally the kind of thing that's helpful when trying to order breakfast.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have found that two of the best free ways to learn a foreign language online is to listen to music in that language I ca n't understand 90 \ % of the lyrics in my own language so I doubt this would be very helpful .
I have to admit I 've picked up quite a few phrases in Italian from watching Rocco Siffredi in action , though that 's not normally the kind of thing that 's helpful when trying to order breakfast .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have found that two of the best free ways to learn a foreign language online is to listen to music in that language I can't understand 90\% of the lyrics in my own language so I doubt this would be very helpful.
I have to admit I've picked up quite a few phrases in Italian from watching Rocco Siffredi in action, though that's not normally the kind of thing that's helpful when trying to order breakfast.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30981496</id>
	<title>Re:Music, comedy and something else of interest</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265041260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What if your background is in miming.  There are only so many ways to translate "Hey!  I'm trapped in a glass box!"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What if your background is in miming .
There are only so many ways to translate " Hey !
I 'm trapped in a glass box !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What if your background is in miming.
There are only so many ways to translate "Hey!
I'm trapped in a glass box!
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30982136</id>
	<title>Re:Music, comedy and something else of interest</title>
	<author>thefirelane</author>
	<datestamp>1265043780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>the best free ways to learn a foreign language online is to listen to music in that language as well as watching stand up comedy in it.</i>
<br> <br> <br>
What about people that want to learn German?</htmltext>
<tokenext>the best free ways to learn a foreign language online is to listen to music in that language as well as watching stand up comedy in it .
What about people that want to learn German ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the best free ways to learn a foreign language online is to listen to music in that language as well as watching stand up comedy in it.
What about people that want to learn German?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30982100</id>
	<title>Old meets new...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265043660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>7 Years ago, I moved to France to work, not speaking a word of French, and I'm now a fluent speaker.  The internet was instrumental in my learning French, but maybe not in the way you might expect...</p><p>First, I used the net to search for and buy a program called Linkwords (I don't think it exists anymore, it was a crappy VB program).  The software sucked, but the principle worked.  It was a sort of flash card system that had you using vivid imagery as a mental aid.  My vocab hit around 2000 words in the first couple of weeks.  It was useless for learning to speak French, but the perfect lifesaver for reading signs, product packaging, etc.</p><p>Then, I used P2P programs to find MP3s of Pimsleur French.  For those not in the know, Pimsleur was a Harvard professor in the 60s who developed a system for learning languagues that mimics the way children learn.  It's all about stimulating the memory at programmed intervals and it is one of the best ways to learn to SPEAK a language.  (While there is writing materiel supplements, they're relatively minimal).  These are quite expensive (you can spend up to $1000 for the complete set) because they work.  You need to have about 1 hour a day to devote to it, and it must be somewhere you quiet that you can listen, and speak.  (You need to hear yourself speaking for it to work).</p><p>Next came my traditional phase, where I spent a lot of time reading BDs (the French equivalent of Manga.  BD is Bande Dessinee (accents ommitted) which means comic strip.  There's a very large adult BD culture in France).  From there I progressed to Harry Potter (which is a surprisingly difficult read in French, lots of flowery speech, wordplay, etc.).</p><p>After this, my French was halting, but I constantly tried, and was always asking the meaning of words from my colleagues.</p><p>Then I started watching more French TV.  At the time, the number of shows that were subtitled was depressingly dismal as compare to the US (though it has gotten a bit better).  Again, computers and the net to the rescue, because I was able to download DVDs (the whole multi-language, multi-subtitle feature is a godsend for language learning).  What you might not realize is that a lot of understanding a foreign language is based on context.  If you know it, it's much easier to guess what is being said.  In a conversation, if you miss something, you can ask the other person to repeat.  Watching TV or movies requires you to pay closer attention.  You can rewind, but you can never get the speaker to express the same thing using other words, so you really have to understand whats being said.</p><p>Finally, thanks to the internet, I was able to find about speed dating events in my area where I met my wife.  My wife speaks English (she's an English teacher) but her family doesn't, so that got me into social situations that required me to practice speaking.</p><p>Now, I had the benefit of immersion, but I think it's important to realize that the internet is not a magic bullet for learning a foreign language, no matter what companies that sell internet based language services say.  That being said, however, if the internet makes learning materiels more readily available, as well as practice opportunities, I'm all for it..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>7 Years ago , I moved to France to work , not speaking a word of French , and I 'm now a fluent speaker .
The internet was instrumental in my learning French , but maybe not in the way you might expect...First , I used the net to search for and buy a program called Linkwords ( I do n't think it exists anymore , it was a crappy VB program ) .
The software sucked , but the principle worked .
It was a sort of flash card system that had you using vivid imagery as a mental aid .
My vocab hit around 2000 words in the first couple of weeks .
It was useless for learning to speak French , but the perfect lifesaver for reading signs , product packaging , etc.Then , I used P2P programs to find MP3s of Pimsleur French .
For those not in the know , Pimsleur was a Harvard professor in the 60s who developed a system for learning languagues that mimics the way children learn .
It 's all about stimulating the memory at programmed intervals and it is one of the best ways to learn to SPEAK a language .
( While there is writing materiel supplements , they 're relatively minimal ) .
These are quite expensive ( you can spend up to $ 1000 for the complete set ) because they work .
You need to have about 1 hour a day to devote to it , and it must be somewhere you quiet that you can listen , and speak .
( You need to hear yourself speaking for it to work ) .Next came my traditional phase , where I spent a lot of time reading BDs ( the French equivalent of Manga .
BD is Bande Dessinee ( accents ommitted ) which means comic strip .
There 's a very large adult BD culture in France ) .
From there I progressed to Harry Potter ( which is a surprisingly difficult read in French , lots of flowery speech , wordplay , etc .
) .After this , my French was halting , but I constantly tried , and was always asking the meaning of words from my colleagues.Then I started watching more French TV .
At the time , the number of shows that were subtitled was depressingly dismal as compare to the US ( though it has gotten a bit better ) .
Again , computers and the net to the rescue , because I was able to download DVDs ( the whole multi-language , multi-subtitle feature is a godsend for language learning ) .
What you might not realize is that a lot of understanding a foreign language is based on context .
If you know it , it 's much easier to guess what is being said .
In a conversation , if you miss something , you can ask the other person to repeat .
Watching TV or movies requires you to pay closer attention .
You can rewind , but you can never get the speaker to express the same thing using other words , so you really have to understand whats being said.Finally , thanks to the internet , I was able to find about speed dating events in my area where I met my wife .
My wife speaks English ( she 's an English teacher ) but her family does n't , so that got me into social situations that required me to practice speaking.Now , I had the benefit of immersion , but I think it 's important to realize that the internet is not a magic bullet for learning a foreign language , no matter what companies that sell internet based language services say .
That being said , however , if the internet makes learning materiels more readily available , as well as practice opportunities , I 'm all for it. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>7 Years ago, I moved to France to work, not speaking a word of French, and I'm now a fluent speaker.
The internet was instrumental in my learning French, but maybe not in the way you might expect...First, I used the net to search for and buy a program called Linkwords (I don't think it exists anymore, it was a crappy VB program).
The software sucked, but the principle worked.
It was a sort of flash card system that had you using vivid imagery as a mental aid.
My vocab hit around 2000 words in the first couple of weeks.
It was useless for learning to speak French, but the perfect lifesaver for reading signs, product packaging, etc.Then, I used P2P programs to find MP3s of Pimsleur French.
For those not in the know, Pimsleur was a Harvard professor in the 60s who developed a system for learning languagues that mimics the way children learn.
It's all about stimulating the memory at programmed intervals and it is one of the best ways to learn to SPEAK a language.
(While there is writing materiel supplements, they're relatively minimal).
These are quite expensive (you can spend up to $1000 for the complete set) because they work.
You need to have about 1 hour a day to devote to it, and it must be somewhere you quiet that you can listen, and speak.
(You need to hear yourself speaking for it to work).Next came my traditional phase, where I spent a lot of time reading BDs (the French equivalent of Manga.
BD is Bande Dessinee (accents ommitted) which means comic strip.
There's a very large adult BD culture in France).
From there I progressed to Harry Potter (which is a surprisingly difficult read in French, lots of flowery speech, wordplay, etc.
).After this, my French was halting, but I constantly tried, and was always asking the meaning of words from my colleagues.Then I started watching more French TV.
At the time, the number of shows that were subtitled was depressingly dismal as compare to the US (though it has gotten a bit better).
Again, computers and the net to the rescue, because I was able to download DVDs (the whole multi-language, multi-subtitle feature is a godsend for language learning).
What you might not realize is that a lot of understanding a foreign language is based on context.
If you know it, it's much easier to guess what is being said.
In a conversation, if you miss something, you can ask the other person to repeat.
Watching TV or movies requires you to pay closer attention.
You can rewind, but you can never get the speaker to express the same thing using other words, so you really have to understand whats being said.Finally, thanks to the internet, I was able to find about speed dating events in my area where I met my wife.
My wife speaks English (she's an English teacher) but her family doesn't, so that got me into social situations that required me to practice speaking.Now, I had the benefit of immersion, but I think it's important to realize that the internet is not a magic bullet for learning a foreign language, no matter what companies that sell internet based language services say.
That being said, however, if the internet makes learning materiels more readily available, as well as practice opportunities, I'm all for it..</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30982014</id>
	<title>Re:Music, comedy and something else of interest</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265043360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>TV shopping channels: you get people pointing at things, and saying the obvious about them. Plus, lots of numbers, spoken alongside the figures.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>TV shopping channels : you get people pointing at things , and saying the obvious about them .
Plus , lots of numbers , spoken alongside the figures .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>TV shopping channels: you get people pointing at things, and saying the obvious about them.
Plus, lots of numbers, spoken alongside the figures.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30981418</id>
	<title>Live Mocha</title>
	<author>rafamvc</author>
	<datestamp>1265040960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>One of the best options for free is www.livemocha.com. They have a lot of languages and you can have peer review and everything!</htmltext>
<tokenext>One of the best options for free is www.livemocha.com .
They have a lot of languages and you can have peer review and everything !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One of the best options for free is www.livemocha.com.
They have a lot of languages and you can have peer review and everything!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30984870</id>
	<title>Re:How to learn a language</title>
	<author>ColdCuts</author>
	<datestamp>1265055000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I spent the last year listening to language podcasts (especially 'coffee break spanish') on my commute.  That seemed to work well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I spent the last year listening to language podcasts ( especially 'coffee break spanish ' ) on my commute .
That seemed to work well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I spent the last year listening to language podcasts (especially 'coffee break spanish') on my commute.
That seemed to work well.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30992116</id>
	<title>Re:Old meets new...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265052360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>in short you are a fucking thief, and if someone were to cut the French from the flesh of your brain -- you would have no right to complain, you created that all based on stolen content. pony up the $1000+interest you owe Pimsleur and the content producers. scum like you are no better than child molestors</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>in short you are a fucking thief , and if someone were to cut the French from the flesh of your brain -- you would have no right to complain , you created that all based on stolen content .
pony up the $ 1000 + interest you owe Pimsleur and the content producers .
scum like you are no better than child molestors</tokentext>
<sentencetext>in short you are a fucking thief, and if someone were to cut the French from the flesh of your brain -- you would have no right to complain, you created that all based on stolen content.
pony up the $1000+interest you owe Pimsleur and the content producers.
scum like you are no better than child molestors</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30981408</id>
	<title>Odd Reference to Berners-Lee</title>
	<author>timeOday</author>
	<datestamp>1265040900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>HTTP 1.0 has almost nothing to do with voice (or video) over the Internet.</htmltext>
<tokenext>HTTP 1.0 has almost nothing to do with voice ( or video ) over the Internet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>HTTP 1.0 has almost nothing to do with voice (or video) over the Internet.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30982084</id>
	<title>Oblig. Richard Feynman quote</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265043600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>When he went to Brazil and discovered that his Portuguese was not as good as he hoped, he was asked "have you found a sleeping dictionary yet?" (apologies to any Slashdot readers who conform to the stereotype.)</htmltext>
<tokenext>When he went to Brazil and discovered that his Portuguese was not as good as he hoped , he was asked " have you found a sleeping dictionary yet ?
" ( apologies to any Slashdot readers who conform to the stereotype .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When he went to Brazil and discovered that his Portuguese was not as good as he hoped, he was asked "have you found a sleeping dictionary yet?
" (apologies to any Slashdot readers who conform to the stereotype.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30981822</id>
	<title>Lernu.net for esperanto</title>
	<author>KIAaze</author>
	<datestamp>1265042520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This site is pretty well done for learning a language (Esperanto in this case): <a href="http://en.lernu.net/" title="lernu.net" rel="nofollow">http://en.lernu.net/</a> [lernu.net]

For Japanese, there's this game: <a href="http://lrnj.com/" title="lrnj.com" rel="nofollow">http://lrnj.com/</a> [lrnj.com]
Haven't tried it, but I like the idea.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</htmltext>
<tokenext>This site is pretty well done for learning a language ( Esperanto in this case ) : http : //en.lernu.net/ [ lernu.net ] For Japanese , there 's this game : http : //lrnj.com/ [ lrnj.com ] Have n't tried it , but I like the idea .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This site is pretty well done for learning a language (Esperanto in this case): http://en.lernu.net/ [lernu.net]

For Japanese, there's this game: http://lrnj.com/ [lrnj.com]
Haven't tried it, but I like the idea.
:)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30981880</id>
	<title>Re:Music, comedy and something else of interest</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265042700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Movies and television. I live in Germany and exclusively watch US TV because German TV is shit.</p><p>(And German IT sites for that matter).</p></div><p>Fick dich ins Knie du Arschloch,</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Movies and television .
I live in Germany and exclusively watch US TV because German TV is shit .
( And German IT sites for that matter ) .Fick dich ins Knie du Arschloch ,</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Movies and television.
I live in Germany and exclusively watch US TV because German TV is shit.
(And German IT sites for that matter).Fick dich ins Knie du Arschloch,
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30984228</id>
	<title>Don't forget your local public library! It's free!</title>
	<author>Optic7</author>
	<datestamp>1265052060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have found that my local public library (in the US) has great language resources. I can get pimsleur CDs for free (the complete courses for some languages), they used to have a free subscription to Rosetta Stone online (now switched to mangolanguages.com), language books, DVDs, etc. It's really an invaluable resource for free language learning.</p><p>Another thing about it is that they will probably have a particularly strong collection on foreign languages that are common in your area. For example, my town has a significant Cambodian population, so they have Cambodian resources in the language section of the library, in addition to the usual Spanish, French, etc.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have found that my local public library ( in the US ) has great language resources .
I can get pimsleur CDs for free ( the complete courses for some languages ) , they used to have a free subscription to Rosetta Stone online ( now switched to mangolanguages.com ) , language books , DVDs , etc .
It 's really an invaluable resource for free language learning.Another thing about it is that they will probably have a particularly strong collection on foreign languages that are common in your area .
For example , my town has a significant Cambodian population , so they have Cambodian resources in the language section of the library , in addition to the usual Spanish , French , etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have found that my local public library (in the US) has great language resources.
I can get pimsleur CDs for free (the complete courses for some languages), they used to have a free subscription to Rosetta Stone online (now switched to mangolanguages.com), language books, DVDs, etc.
It's really an invaluable resource for free language learning.Another thing about it is that they will probably have a particularly strong collection on foreign languages that are common in your area.
For example, my town has a significant Cambodian population, so they have Cambodian resources in the language section of the library, in addition to the usual Spanish, French, etc.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30986096</id>
	<title>Re:The best way to learn a language ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265015940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, the Dutch could certain be a difficult language for foreigners.. especially the glutturals. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guttural</p><p>"Je kunt vast geweldige scheermesjes kopen in Scheveningen of bij de Amsterdamse grachten."  *<br>("You could probably buy great razor blades in Scheveningen or near the canals in Amsterdam")</p><p>If you know Dutch, you can indeed understand bits of German and most certainly most of Flemish. You could perhaps also understand some Frisian.</p><p>Once you know Norwegian, Swedish and Danish become more eassy.</p><p>I believe it was Graham Fuller who described a whole approach of speeding up learning multiple languages this way.<br>http://www.language-learning-advisor.com/review-how-to-learn-a-foreign-language.html</p><p>* Dutch is my native language so forgive me for teasing a bit.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , the Dutch could certain be a difficult language for foreigners.. especially the glutturals .
http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guttural " Je kunt vast geweldige scheermesjes kopen in Scheveningen of bij de Amsterdamse grachten .
" * ( " You could probably buy great razor blades in Scheveningen or near the canals in Amsterdam " ) If you know Dutch , you can indeed understand bits of German and most certainly most of Flemish .
You could perhaps also understand some Frisian.Once you know Norwegian , Swedish and Danish become more eassy.I believe it was Graham Fuller who described a whole approach of speeding up learning multiple languages this way.http : //www.language-learning-advisor.com/review-how-to-learn-a-foreign-language.html * Dutch is my native language so forgive me for teasing a bit .
; - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, the Dutch could certain be a difficult language for foreigners.. especially the glutturals.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guttural"Je kunt vast geweldige scheermesjes kopen in Scheveningen of bij de Amsterdamse grachten.
"  *("You could probably buy great razor blades in Scheveningen or near the canals in Amsterdam")If you know Dutch, you can indeed understand bits of German and most certainly most of Flemish.
You could perhaps also understand some Frisian.Once you know Norwegian, Swedish and Danish become more eassy.I believe it was Graham Fuller who described a whole approach of speeding up learning multiple languages this way.http://www.language-learning-advisor.com/review-how-to-learn-a-foreign-language.html* Dutch is my native language so forgive me for teasing a bit.
;-)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30981748</id>
	<title>Re:Music, comedy and something else of interest</title>
	<author>oldhack</author>
	<datestamp>1265042160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
Not for Chinese.  I mean how useful is knowing:
</p><p>
"You killed my brother.  I kill you."<br>
"Pretty good.  But your fungfu is no match for mine."<br>
"All your bases are belong to us.  MUHAHAHAHAAHA!"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not for Chinese .
I mean how useful is knowing : " You killed my brother .
I kill you .
" " Pretty good .
But your fungfu is no match for mine .
" " All your bases are belong to us .
MUHAHAHAHAAHA ! "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Not for Chinese.
I mean how useful is knowing:

"You killed my brother.
I kill you.
"
"Pretty good.
But your fungfu is no match for mine.
"
"All your bases are belong to us.
MUHAHAHAHAAHA!"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30983540</id>
	<title>Re:Music, comedy and something else of interest</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265049300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>YIKES!!!
<br> <br>
American TV is a step <i>UP</i> from German TV?!?!?!</htmltext>
<tokenext>YIKES ! ! !
American TV is a step UP from German TV ? ! ? ! ?
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>YIKES!!!
American TV is a step UP from German TV?!?!?
!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30981332</id>
	<title>For My Own Purposes</title>
	<author>flyneye</author>
	<datestamp>1265040600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>     This is a great article for me. Thanks<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/.<br>I've been wanting to learn German language for reasons that will probably only seem important to me.<br>I talk to myself incessantly, yeah, I'm kinda mental. I want to do it in German to add to the confusion of others.<br>I really do get a strange feeling when Mexican folk switch from English to Espanol in my presence and would like to throw some German into the mix to let them see how it feels.<br>Lastly of course, I have a German \ Italian heritage and would someday like to travel to Germany and be understood. Italy too, but that is a different matter and some Italian could be easily deciphered  by Mexicans. Right now German is on my mind, so first things first.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is a great article for me .
Thanks /.I 've been wanting to learn German language for reasons that will probably only seem important to me.I talk to myself incessantly , yeah , I 'm kinda mental .
I want to do it in German to add to the confusion of others.I really do get a strange feeling when Mexican folk switch from English to Espanol in my presence and would like to throw some German into the mix to let them see how it feels.Lastly of course , I have a German \ Italian heritage and would someday like to travel to Germany and be understood .
Italy too , but that is a different matter and some Italian could be easily deciphered by Mexicans .
Right now German is on my mind , so first things first .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>     This is a great article for me.
Thanks /.I've been wanting to learn German language for reasons that will probably only seem important to me.I talk to myself incessantly, yeah, I'm kinda mental.
I want to do it in German to add to the confusion of others.I really do get a strange feeling when Mexican folk switch from English to Espanol in my presence and would like to throw some German into the mix to let them see how it feels.Lastly of course, I have a German \ Italian heritage and would someday like to travel to Germany and be understood.
Italy too, but that is a different matter and some Italian could be easily deciphered  by Mexicans.
Right now German is on my mind, so first things first.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30981968</id>
	<title>Re:A very geek way to learn greek.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265043060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That is totally unhelpful.  He at least needs to define the alphabet. And really a lot more than that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That is totally unhelpful .
He at least needs to define the alphabet .
And really a lot more than that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That is totally unhelpful.
He at least needs to define the alphabet.
And really a lot more than that.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30985494</id>
	<title>Re:Music, comedy and something else of interest</title>
	<author>Per Wigren</author>
	<datestamp>1265057280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Can you give examples of English songs that someone should be listening to?</p></div><p> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bu2tNdqZTvA" title="youtube.com">Max Romeo</a> [youtube.com].</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Can you give examples of English songs that someone should be listening to ?
Max Romeo [ youtube.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can you give examples of English songs that someone should be listening to?
Max Romeo [youtube.com].
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30982158</id>
	<title>Re:Music, comedy and something else of interest</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265043840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I have found that two of the best free ways to learn a foreign language online is to listen to music in that language as well as watching stand up comedy in it.</p></div><p>But I am learning German, you insensitive clod!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have found that two of the best free ways to learn a foreign language online is to listen to music in that language as well as watching stand up comedy in it.But I am learning German , you insensitive clod !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have found that two of the best free ways to learn a foreign language online is to listen to music in that language as well as watching stand up comedy in it.But I am learning German, you insensitive clod!
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30981144</id>
	<title>Poor foreigners</title>
	<author>IBBoard</author>
	<datestamp>1265039880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>...you can now sit in your underwear in Omaha and learn French from a tutor in Paris.</p></div> </blockquote><p>and</p><blockquote><div><p>...RosettaStudio, a place where a user can talk to a native speaker via video chat.</p></div> </blockquote><p>Poor foreigners with languages that people want to learn. They hope to teach people the delights of their own language rather than being forced to speak American (or even real English - that's what we speak in England<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;) ) and end up having a webcam foreign languages session with some guy in his briefs!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>...you can now sit in your underwear in Omaha and learn French from a tutor in Paris .
and...RosettaStudio , a place where a user can talk to a native speaker via video chat .
Poor foreigners with languages that people want to learn .
They hope to teach people the delights of their own language rather than being forced to speak American ( or even real English - that 's what we speak in England ; ) ) and end up having a webcam foreign languages session with some guy in his briefs !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...you can now sit in your underwear in Omaha and learn French from a tutor in Paris.
and...RosettaStudio, a place where a user can talk to a native speaker via video chat.
Poor foreigners with languages that people want to learn.
They hope to teach people the delights of their own language rather than being forced to speak American (or even real English - that's what we speak in England ;) ) and end up having a webcam foreign languages session with some guy in his briefs!
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30993198</id>
	<title>Re:Best Way: Getting a Girlfriend from that countr</title>
	<author>AniVisual</author>
	<datestamp>1265112480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> That's very good advice. I'm currently learning Latin. With any hope, I'll dig up a girlfriend who's also a native speaker in a few years. Goodbye. There is no time for me to waste.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's very good advice .
I 'm currently learning Latin .
With any hope , I 'll dig up a girlfriend who 's also a native speaker in a few years .
Goodbye. There is no time for me to waste .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> That's very good advice.
I'm currently learning Latin.
With any hope, I'll dig up a girlfriend who's also a native speaker in a few years.
Goodbye. There is no time for me to waste.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30983972</id>
	<title>Check out this site...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265050980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is probably one of the more interesting services offered... check out <a href="http://languagelab.com/" title="languagelab.com" rel="nofollow">Languagelab.com</a> [languagelab.com].  It uses Second Life... pretty cool!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is probably one of the more interesting services offered... check out Languagelab.com [ languagelab.com ] .
It uses Second Life... pretty cool !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is probably one of the more interesting services offered... check out Languagelab.com [languagelab.com].
It uses Second Life... pretty cool!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30981360</id>
	<title>Re:Music, comedy and something else of interest</title>
	<author>Hognoxious</author>
	<datestamp>1265040720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I find in music the pronunciation isn't always clear (Imagine trying to learn English listening to Bob Dylan).</p><p>My personal favourite is quiz shows, you learn how to ask questions and usually the speakers are quite clear.  Otherwise, watching a film your familiar with that's been dubbed is also good.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I find in music the pronunciation is n't always clear ( Imagine trying to learn English listening to Bob Dylan ) .My personal favourite is quiz shows , you learn how to ask questions and usually the speakers are quite clear .
Otherwise , watching a film your familiar with that 's been dubbed is also good .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I find in music the pronunciation isn't always clear (Imagine trying to learn English listening to Bob Dylan).My personal favourite is quiz shows, you learn how to ask questions and usually the speakers are quite clear.
Otherwise, watching a film your familiar with that's been dubbed is also good.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30981214</id>
	<title>Re:A very geek way to learn greek.</title>
	<author>Rary</author>
	<datestamp>1265040180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I took a look at your friend's site, but didn't get too far with it. I'm afraid it's all Greek to me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I took a look at your friend 's site , but did n't get too far with it .
I 'm afraid it 's all Greek to me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I took a look at your friend's site, but didn't get too far with it.
I'm afraid it's all Greek to me.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30985604</id>
	<title>Re:Music, comedy and something else of interest</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265057640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Movies and television. I live in Germany and exclusively watch US TV because German TV is shit.</p></div><p>True</p><p><div class="quote"><p>(And German IT sites for that matter).</p></div><p> <a href="http://heise.de/" title="heise.de">heise.de</a> [heise.de] Probably the best IT site out there. Period.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Movies and television .
I live in Germany and exclusively watch US TV because German TV is shit.True ( And German IT sites for that matter ) .
heise.de [ heise.de ] Probably the best IT site out there .
Period .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Movies and television.
I live in Germany and exclusively watch US TV because German TV is shit.True(And German IT sites for that matter).
heise.de [heise.de] Probably the best IT site out there.
Period.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30982768</id>
	<title>World of Warcraft</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265046180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I play WoW in French and it has done wonders for both my formal reading (Quests), informal reading (chats - gotta learn stuff like LOL in french [mdr = mort de rire], etc, etc).  and informal writing (chat stuff).</p><p>I have leared some very rare vocabulary which comes in useful from time to time.  But it's a great confidence builder.</p><p>My wife is a ESL teacher and doing her thesis now... i'm convinced this way of learning language is the future.   Not necessarily WoW, but something very much like it where you PLAY to learn.</p><p>Other than that, the best way is to move to the country and get a girlfriend/boyfriend... 100\% guaranteed to become very proficient very quickly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I play WoW in French and it has done wonders for both my formal reading ( Quests ) , informal reading ( chats - got ta learn stuff like LOL in french [ mdr = mort de rire ] , etc , etc ) .
and informal writing ( chat stuff ) .I have leared some very rare vocabulary which comes in useful from time to time .
But it 's a great confidence builder.My wife is a ESL teacher and doing her thesis now... i 'm convinced this way of learning language is the future .
Not necessarily WoW , but something very much like it where you PLAY to learn.Other than that , the best way is to move to the country and get a girlfriend/boyfriend... 100 \ % guaranteed to become very proficient very quickly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I play WoW in French and it has done wonders for both my formal reading (Quests), informal reading (chats - gotta learn stuff like LOL in french [mdr = mort de rire], etc, etc).
and informal writing (chat stuff).I have leared some very rare vocabulary which comes in useful from time to time.
But it's a great confidence builder.My wife is a ESL teacher and doing her thesis now... i'm convinced this way of learning language is the future.
Not necessarily WoW, but something very much like it where you PLAY to learn.Other than that, the best way is to move to the country and get a girlfriend/boyfriend... 100\% guaranteed to become very proficient very quickly.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30982552</id>
	<title>Re:Music, comedy and something else of interest</title>
	<author>Quintios</author>
	<datestamp>1265045340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Watching stand-up in a foreign language is a very advanced topic; definitely not something for someone who cannot speak relatively fluently.  And without a native speaker, you're never going to understand the idioms and references that the particular culture is familiar with.

"Are you of bad grape" has significance in Castillian Spanish, for example.  For someone who cannot carry on a conversation at a bar in Spanish, they're never going to understand that.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Watching stand-up in a foreign language is a very advanced topic ; definitely not something for someone who can not speak relatively fluently .
And without a native speaker , you 're never going to understand the idioms and references that the particular culture is familiar with .
" Are you of bad grape " has significance in Castillian Spanish , for example .
For someone who can not carry on a conversation at a bar in Spanish , they 're never going to understand that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Watching stand-up in a foreign language is a very advanced topic; definitely not something for someone who cannot speak relatively fluently.
And without a native speaker, you're never going to understand the idioms and references that the particular culture is familiar with.
"Are you of bad grape" has significance in Castillian Spanish, for example.
For someone who cannot carry on a conversation at a bar in Spanish, they're never going to understand that.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30981678</id>
	<title>The best way to learn a language ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265041980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>From my experience (I speak 5 languages, only one of which is my mother-tongue), past the very beginning, the best way to learn a language is to go live in a place where people speak it.</p><p>Second best is to go there on long (at least 1 month) vacations and try to speak the language all the time (the natives usually appreciate the effort).</p><p>Third best is to expose yourself to that language is a day-to-day spoken form. For example, watch non-dubbed TV and/or listen to radio in that language. (For a while, most of my English vocabulary was learned from Satellite TV)</p><p>Fourth best is reading books/newspapers in that language.</p><p>Both of the last two can be done using the Internet (using things like YouTube clips in different languages, foreign TV channels online, foreign newspapers and such).</p><p>Being taught a language is only really worth it when bootstraping your learning, after that being taught a language is highly inneficient simply because, unless you're doing a high intensity course (i.e. several hours a day, everyday for several weeks), in between lessons you forget most of the words you learned in each lesson. This was my experience when learning Dutch while living in Holland - the 1h-lessons twice a week were only really effective for the first 2 or 3 months: beyond that you really need to learn the language by speaking it in your day-to-day. (that said, Dutch is considered a difficult language, <i>toch!!?</i> ).</p><p>The good news is that once you learn a language from a given family it's a lot easier to learn other languages of the same family due to the similarities in the grammar, words and even whole expressions. I can now understand some German because of knowing Dutch.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>From my experience ( I speak 5 languages , only one of which is my mother-tongue ) , past the very beginning , the best way to learn a language is to go live in a place where people speak it.Second best is to go there on long ( at least 1 month ) vacations and try to speak the language all the time ( the natives usually appreciate the effort ) .Third best is to expose yourself to that language is a day-to-day spoken form .
For example , watch non-dubbed TV and/or listen to radio in that language .
( For a while , most of my English vocabulary was learned from Satellite TV ) Fourth best is reading books/newspapers in that language.Both of the last two can be done using the Internet ( using things like YouTube clips in different languages , foreign TV channels online , foreign newspapers and such ) .Being taught a language is only really worth it when bootstraping your learning , after that being taught a language is highly inneficient simply because , unless you 're doing a high intensity course ( i.e .
several hours a day , everyday for several weeks ) , in between lessons you forget most of the words you learned in each lesson .
This was my experience when learning Dutch while living in Holland - the 1h-lessons twice a week were only really effective for the first 2 or 3 months : beyond that you really need to learn the language by speaking it in your day-to-day .
( that said , Dutch is considered a difficult language , toch ! ! ?
) .The good news is that once you learn a language from a given family it 's a lot easier to learn other languages of the same family due to the similarities in the grammar , words and even whole expressions .
I can now understand some German because of knowing Dutch .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From my experience (I speak 5 languages, only one of which is my mother-tongue), past the very beginning, the best way to learn a language is to go live in a place where people speak it.Second best is to go there on long (at least 1 month) vacations and try to speak the language all the time (the natives usually appreciate the effort).Third best is to expose yourself to that language is a day-to-day spoken form.
For example, watch non-dubbed TV and/or listen to radio in that language.
(For a while, most of my English vocabulary was learned from Satellite TV)Fourth best is reading books/newspapers in that language.Both of the last two can be done using the Internet (using things like YouTube clips in different languages, foreign TV channels online, foreign newspapers and such).Being taught a language is only really worth it when bootstraping your learning, after that being taught a language is highly inneficient simply because, unless you're doing a high intensity course (i.e.
several hours a day, everyday for several weeks), in between lessons you forget most of the words you learned in each lesson.
This was my experience when learning Dutch while living in Holland - the 1h-lessons twice a week were only really effective for the first 2 or 3 months: beyond that you really need to learn the language by speaking it in your day-to-day.
(that said, Dutch is considered a difficult language, toch!!?
).The good news is that once you learn a language from a given family it's a lot easier to learn other languages of the same family due to the similarities in the grammar, words and even whole expressions.
I can now understand some German because of knowing Dutch.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Lernu.net for esperanto</title>
	<author>Yvan256</author>
	<datestamp>1265049660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The goal for Esperanto, if I'm not mistaken, was to be an easy-to-use and worldwide (secondary) language. I think the goal was for you to learn your native language for local/national use and then Esperanto for worldwide use.</p><p>However, it failed because:<br>1. english is easy enough to learn, even as a second language.<br>2. english is a real language used by people all over the world.<br>3. there's a lot of easily accessible medias in english (news, songs, movies, etc).<br>4. a lot of people learn english as their secondary language because of the first three points.</p><p>All of this makes Esperanto a non-starter and as much a waste of time, IMHO, as learning Klingon.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The goal for Esperanto , if I 'm not mistaken , was to be an easy-to-use and worldwide ( secondary ) language .
I think the goal was for you to learn your native language for local/national use and then Esperanto for worldwide use.However , it failed because : 1. english is easy enough to learn , even as a second language.2 .
english is a real language used by people all over the world.3 .
there 's a lot of easily accessible medias in english ( news , songs , movies , etc ) .4. a lot of people learn english as their secondary language because of the first three points.All of this makes Esperanto a non-starter and as much a waste of time , IMHO , as learning Klingon .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The goal for Esperanto, if I'm not mistaken, was to be an easy-to-use and worldwide (secondary) language.
I think the goal was for you to learn your native language for local/national use and then Esperanto for worldwide use.However, it failed because:1. english is easy enough to learn, even as a second language.2.
english is a real language used by people all over the world.3.
there's a lot of easily accessible medias in english (news, songs, movies, etc).4. a lot of people learn english as their secondary language because of the first three points.All of this makes Esperanto a non-starter and as much a waste of time, IMHO, as learning Klingon.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30981712</id>
	<title>Re:Music, comedy and something else of interest</title>
	<author>sznupi</author>
	<datestamp>1265042100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Music has a big problem of words usualy not being very clear. Stand up comedy has IMHO, contrary to what you say, too narrow scope when it comes to culture...and the nature of the act quickly becomes monotonous.</p><p>Movies are a phenomenall way. There really is an unimaginable number of great ones in many languages one would want to learn; and enough of them for very long daily viewing that easily fits your current mood. Yes, it works...my EN skills, while not great, were aquired that way (foreign TV films not being dubbed at my place helped)</p><p>It has some hiccups though, Google Ads in Gmail still think my German is Swedish or Norwegian<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;/ (no complaints from Germans though)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Music has a big problem of words usualy not being very clear .
Stand up comedy has IMHO , contrary to what you say , too narrow scope when it comes to culture...and the nature of the act quickly becomes monotonous.Movies are a phenomenall way .
There really is an unimaginable number of great ones in many languages one would want to learn ; and enough of them for very long daily viewing that easily fits your current mood .
Yes , it works...my EN skills , while not great , were aquired that way ( foreign TV films not being dubbed at my place helped ) It has some hiccups though , Google Ads in Gmail still think my German is Swedish or Norwegian ; / ( no complaints from Germans though )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Music has a big problem of words usualy not being very clear.
Stand up comedy has IMHO, contrary to what you say, too narrow scope when it comes to culture...and the nature of the act quickly becomes monotonous.Movies are a phenomenall way.
There really is an unimaginable number of great ones in many languages one would want to learn; and enough of them for very long daily viewing that easily fits your current mood.
Yes, it works...my EN skills, while not great, were aquired that way (foreign TV films not being dubbed at my place helped)It has some hiccups though, Google Ads in Gmail still think my German is Swedish or Norwegian ;/ (no complaints from Germans though)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30983878</id>
	<title>Re:Music, comedy and something else of interest</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265050680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Are you sure you aren't an Indian call center agent?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Are you sure you are n't an Indian call center agent ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are you sure you aren't an Indian call center agent?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.30981042</id>
	<title>Time to start learning Chinese</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265039460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How do you say "the Party is always right" in Chinese?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How do you say " the Party is always right " in Chinese ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How do you say "the Party is always right" in Chinese?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_01_1418236.31001696</id>
	<title>Re:Best Way: Getting a Girlfriend from that countr</title>
	<author>IMightB</author>
	<datestamp>1265107920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Does it work with wives as well?   My wife is Malaysian, and she just gets frustrated and switches to english.    So far, the main phrase I know how to say is "The cat goes Meow" in Malay</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does it work with wives as well ?
My wife is Malaysian , and she just gets frustrated and switches to english .
So far , the main phrase I know how to say is " The cat goes Meow " in Malay</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does it work with wives as well?
My wife is Malaysian, and she just gets frustrated and switches to english.
So far, the main phrase I know how to say is "The cat goes Meow" in Malay</sentencetext>
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