<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_01_31_1915257</id>
	<title>Making Sense of ACTA</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1264965420000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>Hodejo1 writes <i>"This past week Guadalajara, Mexico hosted the 7th secret meeting of ACTA proponents who <a href="http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100129/0505077972.shtml">continue to ignore demands</a> worldwide to open the debate to the public. Piecing together official and leaked documents from various global sources, <a href="http://www.michaelgeist.ca/">Michael Geist</a> has coalesced it all into a five part ACTA Guide that offers structured insight into what these talks might foist upon the populace at large. 'Questions about ACTA typically follow a familiar pattern &mdash; what is it (<a href="http://www.mp3newswire.net/stories/0102/acta-guide.htm">Part One</a> of the ACTA Guide listing the timeline of talks), do you have evidence (<a href="http://www.mp3newswire.net/stories/0102/acta-guide-2.htm">Part Two</a>), why is this secret (<a href="http://www.mp3newswire.net/stories/0102/acta-guide-3.htm">Part Three</a>), followed by what would ACTA do to my country's laws (<a href="http://www.mp3newswire.net/stories/0102/acta-guide-4.htm">Part Four</a>)? Countering the momentum behind ACTA will require many to speak out" (<a href="http://www.mp3newswire.net/stories/0102/acta-guide-5.htm">Part Five</a>).'"</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hodejo1 writes " This past week Guadalajara , Mexico hosted the 7th secret meeting of ACTA proponents who continue to ignore demands worldwide to open the debate to the public .
Piecing together official and leaked documents from various global sources , Michael Geist has coalesced it all into a five part ACTA Guide that offers structured insight into what these talks might foist upon the populace at large .
'Questions about ACTA typically follow a familiar pattern    what is it ( Part One of the ACTA Guide listing the timeline of talks ) , do you have evidence ( Part Two ) , why is this secret ( Part Three ) , followed by what would ACTA do to my country 's laws ( Part Four ) ?
Countering the momentum behind ACTA will require many to speak out " ( Part Five ) .
' "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hodejo1 writes "This past week Guadalajara, Mexico hosted the 7th secret meeting of ACTA proponents who continue to ignore demands worldwide to open the debate to the public.
Piecing together official and leaked documents from various global sources, Michael Geist has coalesced it all into a five part ACTA Guide that offers structured insight into what these talks might foist upon the populace at large.
'Questions about ACTA typically follow a familiar pattern — what is it (Part One of the ACTA Guide listing the timeline of talks), do you have evidence (Part Two), why is this secret (Part Three), followed by what would ACTA do to my country's laws (Part Four)?
Countering the momentum behind ACTA will require many to speak out" (Part Five).
'"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_31_1915257.30972890</id>
	<title>Re:Fuck ACTA</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264971120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Fuck ACTA? More like what the fuck is ACTA?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Fuck ACTA ?
More like what the fuck is ACTA ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Fuck ACTA?
More like what the fuck is ACTA?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_31_1915257.30977624</id>
	<title>Re:ACTA will kill people</title>
	<author>roju</author>
	<datestamp>1264962000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Someone beat slashdot to the ACTA meme bandwagon: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E\_fK3ri8J2E" title="youtube.com" rel="nofollow">ACTA will burn your books</a> [youtube.com].</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Someone beat slashdot to the ACTA meme bandwagon : ACTA will burn your books [ youtube.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Someone beat slashdot to the ACTA meme bandwagon: ACTA will burn your books [youtube.com].</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_31_1915257.30975242</id>
	<title>Re:Could someone explain to me</title>
	<author>Ostracus</author>
	<datestamp>1264941720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>ACTA is basically saying "We got the DMCA in the USA, so why don't you write a similar law where you are... or we're going to raise the price of our content to the point we break your economy!"</p></div><p>Then that speaks more to the scarcity of talent than anything else. Or maybe the drug addict relationship people have with American content? We were trying for the sympathy angle, weren't we?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>ACTA is basically saying " We got the DMCA in the USA , so why do n't you write a similar law where you are... or we 're going to raise the price of our content to the point we break your economy !
" Then that speaks more to the scarcity of talent than anything else .
Or maybe the drug addict relationship people have with American content ?
We were trying for the sympathy angle , were n't we ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>ACTA is basically saying "We got the DMCA in the USA, so why don't you write a similar law where you are... or we're going to raise the price of our content to the point we break your economy!
"Then that speaks more to the scarcity of talent than anything else.
Or maybe the drug addict relationship people have with American content?
We were trying for the sympathy angle, weren't we?
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_31_1915257.30972580</id>
	<title>The whole secrecy only adds to the resistance</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264969440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Let's be level headed here for a moment. Let's assume for a moment ACTA was a "fair" agreement. Designed to give all affected parties a fair share of the cake. Even then, it would be met with incredible resistance once it hits the fan. Why? Because it's kept secret. You design a contract that will affect me but I don't get to read it until after it is signed. How in the world could I <i>not</i> resist it with all the force I could possibly have?</p><p>Also, they will soon notice that all the secrecy around it only makes it more interesting. If ACTA was published and discussed in plain view, it would soon be drowned in the noise of everyday politics. A few activists would care and as usual, nobody would listen to them. Do you think it would be on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/.'s frontpage every other day if it was public? This way, it's kept in our minds, fresh and looming, a secret deal that will affect us but we don't get to see it. Can you imagine anything more interesting?</p><p>Of course (please put on your tinfoil hats now), it could all be a gigantic plot to keep our interest on it so we overlook something else. But generally, if ACTA is supposed to become reality some day, the whole secrecy around it will ensure that every government will have to fight an uphill battle to get it ratified and codified and every single step will be monitored closely and reported widely, simply because ACTA got that much limelight. Due to its secrecy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Let 's be level headed here for a moment .
Let 's assume for a moment ACTA was a " fair " agreement .
Designed to give all affected parties a fair share of the cake .
Even then , it would be met with incredible resistance once it hits the fan .
Why ? Because it 's kept secret .
You design a contract that will affect me but I do n't get to read it until after it is signed .
How in the world could I not resist it with all the force I could possibly have ? Also , they will soon notice that all the secrecy around it only makes it more interesting .
If ACTA was published and discussed in plain view , it would soon be drowned in the noise of everyday politics .
A few activists would care and as usual , nobody would listen to them .
Do you think it would be on / .
's frontpage every other day if it was public ?
This way , it 's kept in our minds , fresh and looming , a secret deal that will affect us but we do n't get to see it .
Can you imagine anything more interesting ? Of course ( please put on your tinfoil hats now ) , it could all be a gigantic plot to keep our interest on it so we overlook something else .
But generally , if ACTA is supposed to become reality some day , the whole secrecy around it will ensure that every government will have to fight an uphill battle to get it ratified and codified and every single step will be monitored closely and reported widely , simply because ACTA got that much limelight .
Due to its secrecy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let's be level headed here for a moment.
Let's assume for a moment ACTA was a "fair" agreement.
Designed to give all affected parties a fair share of the cake.
Even then, it would be met with incredible resistance once it hits the fan.
Why? Because it's kept secret.
You design a contract that will affect me but I don't get to read it until after it is signed.
How in the world could I not resist it with all the force I could possibly have?Also, they will soon notice that all the secrecy around it only makes it more interesting.
If ACTA was published and discussed in plain view, it would soon be drowned in the noise of everyday politics.
A few activists would care and as usual, nobody would listen to them.
Do you think it would be on /.
's frontpage every other day if it was public?
This way, it's kept in our minds, fresh and looming, a secret deal that will affect us but we don't get to see it.
Can you imagine anything more interesting?Of course (please put on your tinfoil hats now), it could all be a gigantic plot to keep our interest on it so we overlook something else.
But generally, if ACTA is supposed to become reality some day, the whole secrecy around it will ensure that every government will have to fight an uphill battle to get it ratified and codified and every single step will be monitored closely and reported widely, simply because ACTA got that much limelight.
Due to its secrecy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_31_1915257.30973138</id>
	<title>Questions are harder than answers.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264929420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Probably we don't know the right questions.</p><p>The answers are easy.</p><p>-What is it?<br>A reciprocity agreement about avoiding piracy, to protect the ellusive Intelectual Property. As economies migrate more and more from material to knowledge, it becomes important to create scarcity of ideas, so that it's possible to market them intead of freely distributing them. As we've seen in the Middle Ages, we're about to perform a huge step -- backwards. Countries which will close will become outdated, just like the former URSS. Countries with free exchange of ideas/culture will get an enormous advantage, just like the US when it did not recognize copyright.</p><p>Alas, this certainly will also be used for threats and control by some superpower.</p><p>-do you have evidence?<br>No, I don't. It's bad policy warning someone before you shake him. Fair play is so 19th century.</p><p>-why is this secret?<br>Because the shepherd enters the front door. Tautologically, it's secret because it's bad and thus must be made secretly.</p><p>-what would ACTA do to my country's laws?<br>In simple words, subvert your country values. If you live in a musical country (like me), prepare for more unidirectional cultural domination/contamination and unidirectional money flow.</p><p>To sum it up, prepare for spending your money non red tape, under the supervision of the law.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Probably we do n't know the right questions.The answers are easy.-What is it ? A reciprocity agreement about avoiding piracy , to protect the ellusive Intelectual Property .
As economies migrate more and more from material to knowledge , it becomes important to create scarcity of ideas , so that it 's possible to market them intead of freely distributing them .
As we 've seen in the Middle Ages , we 're about to perform a huge step -- backwards .
Countries which will close will become outdated , just like the former URSS .
Countries with free exchange of ideas/culture will get an enormous advantage , just like the US when it did not recognize copyright.Alas , this certainly will also be used for threats and control by some superpower.-do you have evidence ? No , I do n't .
It 's bad policy warning someone before you shake him .
Fair play is so 19th century.-why is this secret ? Because the shepherd enters the front door .
Tautologically , it 's secret because it 's bad and thus must be made secretly.-what would ACTA do to my country 's laws ? In simple words , subvert your country values .
If you live in a musical country ( like me ) , prepare for more unidirectional cultural domination/contamination and unidirectional money flow.To sum it up , prepare for spending your money non red tape , under the supervision of the law .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Probably we don't know the right questions.The answers are easy.-What is it?A reciprocity agreement about avoiding piracy, to protect the ellusive Intelectual Property.
As economies migrate more and more from material to knowledge, it becomes important to create scarcity of ideas, so that it's possible to market them intead of freely distributing them.
As we've seen in the Middle Ages, we're about to perform a huge step -- backwards.
Countries which will close will become outdated, just like the former URSS.
Countries with free exchange of ideas/culture will get an enormous advantage, just like the US when it did not recognize copyright.Alas, this certainly will also be used for threats and control by some superpower.-do you have evidence?No, I don't.
It's bad policy warning someone before you shake him.
Fair play is so 19th century.-why is this secret?Because the shepherd enters the front door.
Tautologically, it's secret because it's bad and thus must be made secretly.-what would ACTA do to my country's laws?In simple words, subvert your country values.
If you live in a musical country (like me), prepare for more unidirectional cultural domination/contamination and unidirectional money flow.To sum it up, prepare for spending your money non red tape, under the supervision of the law.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_31_1915257.30973286</id>
	<title>Re:Could someone explain to me</title>
	<author>Fjandr</author>
	<datestamp>1264930320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Quite easily. There is no requirement for public debate or notice in passing legislation or signing treaties. It is assumed that people will vote out politicians who do such things. The fact that there are enough of them currently elected that this is even a possibility shows that US citizens get exactly the government they want and deserve. Otherwise, we wouldn't have as many slimy people in office.<br>
<br>
Actually, the question above is exactly why this is a problem: US citizens have no idea how their government works in practice, let alone how it <em>should</em> work in theory.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Quite easily .
There is no requirement for public debate or notice in passing legislation or signing treaties .
It is assumed that people will vote out politicians who do such things .
The fact that there are enough of them currently elected that this is even a possibility shows that US citizens get exactly the government they want and deserve .
Otherwise , we would n't have as many slimy people in office .
Actually , the question above is exactly why this is a problem : US citizens have no idea how their government works in practice , let alone how it should work in theory .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Quite easily.
There is no requirement for public debate or notice in passing legislation or signing treaties.
It is assumed that people will vote out politicians who do such things.
The fact that there are enough of them currently elected that this is even a possibility shows that US citizens get exactly the government they want and deserve.
Otherwise, we wouldn't have as many slimy people in office.
Actually, the question above is exactly why this is a problem: US citizens have no idea how their government works in practice, let alone how it should work in theory.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_31_1915257.30976108</id>
	<title>Re:how to defeat acta:</title>
	<author>BitZtream</author>
	<datestamp>1264947120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The law only works because the majority of the population respect it.</p><p>As you say, once you make a law that the majority don't want to honor and respect, the law is unenforceable.</p><p>As they say, they can't put us ALL in jail.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The law only works because the majority of the population respect it.As you say , once you make a law that the majority do n't want to honor and respect , the law is unenforceable.As they say , they ca n't put us ALL in jail .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The law only works because the majority of the population respect it.As you say, once you make a law that the majority don't want to honor and respect, the law is unenforceable.As they say, they can't put us ALL in jail.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_31_1915257.30973096</id>
	<title>Re:Could someone explain to me</title>
	<author>sjames</author>
	<datestamp>1264929060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That won't work. The 'content' just isn't that critical and the natural retaliation to it being too expensive suggests itself!</p><p>Instead of the stick, I suspect they'll offer the carrot under the table to legislators who agree to betray their country, just like always.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That wo n't work .
The 'content ' just is n't that critical and the natural retaliation to it being too expensive suggests itself ! Instead of the stick , I suspect they 'll offer the carrot under the table to legislators who agree to betray their country , just like always .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That won't work.
The 'content' just isn't that critical and the natural retaliation to it being too expensive suggests itself!Instead of the stick, I suspect they'll offer the carrot under the table to legislators who agree to betray their country, just like always.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_31_1915257.30972578</id>
	<title>Could someone explain to me</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264969380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>how it would be constitutional to enact laws that were developed behind closed doors by private interests?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>how it would be constitutional to enact laws that were developed behind closed doors by private interests ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>how it would be constitutional to enact laws that were developed behind closed doors by private interests?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_31_1915257.30972862</id>
	<title>Acronyms...</title>
	<author>RocketRocketship</author>
	<datestamp>1264970880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not mentioned in the summary or the first two linked articles is what ACTA actually is.

It stands for the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement.

<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Counterfeiting\_Trade\_Agreement" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Counterfeiting\_Trade\_Agreement</a> [wikipedia.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not mentioned in the summary or the first two linked articles is what ACTA actually is .
It stands for the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement .
http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Counterfeiting \ _Trade \ _Agreement [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not mentioned in the summary or the first two linked articles is what ACTA actually is.
It stands for the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Counterfeiting\_Trade\_Agreement [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_31_1915257.30973902</id>
	<title>how to defeat acta:</title>
	<author>circletimessquare</author>
	<datestamp>1264933500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>ignore it</p><p>technology has gotten to the point that piracy is simply the best distribution model around, for creators and consumers (oh, you thought the law was supposed to protect creators? it protects distributors: look at the contracts distributors sign with creators and tell me who really benefits). consumers get bounty, creators get ancillary revenue streams and distributors die. end of story</p><p>let them pass any law they want. no really: what is the value of an unenforceable law? people are getting upset about acta, but i really have to ask everyone: acta may sound diabolical and severe, but its toothless: there's no enforcement of it possible. sure, they may get the occasional grandmother with an unsecured router or a soccer mom who's kids friends take advantage of her hospitality, but that's going to stop technological progress?</p><p>let them fund stables of tens of thousands of lawyers and put behind them far reaching draconian laws. whoop de friggin doo. tens of millions of media hungry, technologically savvy and POOR teenagers has them all beat, and then some. the contest is a joke, the laws mean nothing, the game is over: technological progress wins, distributors die</p><p>we are simply living in a transition period in which we must suffer the bluster of morons from another media era who simply don't get the fundamental changes taking place around them</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>ignore ittechnology has gotten to the point that piracy is simply the best distribution model around , for creators and consumers ( oh , you thought the law was supposed to protect creators ?
it protects distributors : look at the contracts distributors sign with creators and tell me who really benefits ) .
consumers get bounty , creators get ancillary revenue streams and distributors die .
end of storylet them pass any law they want .
no really : what is the value of an unenforceable law ?
people are getting upset about acta , but i really have to ask everyone : acta may sound diabolical and severe , but its toothless : there 's no enforcement of it possible .
sure , they may get the occasional grandmother with an unsecured router or a soccer mom who 's kids friends take advantage of her hospitality , but that 's going to stop technological progress ? let them fund stables of tens of thousands of lawyers and put behind them far reaching draconian laws .
whoop de friggin doo .
tens of millions of media hungry , technologically savvy and POOR teenagers has them all beat , and then some .
the contest is a joke , the laws mean nothing , the game is over : technological progress wins , distributors diewe are simply living in a transition period in which we must suffer the bluster of morons from another media era who simply do n't get the fundamental changes taking place around them</tokentext>
<sentencetext>ignore ittechnology has gotten to the point that piracy is simply the best distribution model around, for creators and consumers (oh, you thought the law was supposed to protect creators?
it protects distributors: look at the contracts distributors sign with creators and tell me who really benefits).
consumers get bounty, creators get ancillary revenue streams and distributors die.
end of storylet them pass any law they want.
no really: what is the value of an unenforceable law?
people are getting upset about acta, but i really have to ask everyone: acta may sound diabolical and severe, but its toothless: there's no enforcement of it possible.
sure, they may get the occasional grandmother with an unsecured router or a soccer mom who's kids friends take advantage of her hospitality, but that's going to stop technological progress?let them fund stables of tens of thousands of lawyers and put behind them far reaching draconian laws.
whoop de friggin doo.
tens of millions of media hungry, technologically savvy and POOR teenagers has them all beat, and then some.
the contest is a joke, the laws mean nothing, the game is over: technological progress wins, distributors diewe are simply living in a transition period in which we must suffer the bluster of morons from another media era who simply don't get the fundamental changes taking place around them</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_31_1915257.30973062</id>
	<title>unauthorized IP distribution = piracy</title>
	<author>Ifni</author>
	<datestamp>1264928880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&lt;tinfoilhat&gt;</p><p>From the article: efforts at the international level to fight counterfeiting and piracy</p><p>I have to wonder at the increase and sudden newsworthiness of Somalian piracy during the private talks around ACTA.  When it comes time to present it to the public, talk of counterfeiting and piracy will elicit images of counterfeit currency and Somalian pirates and the average Joe that hasn't read much about the document will assume that those opposing it are a bunch of crazies.  Finally, the years of equating unauthorized IP distribution with piracy will come to fruition for our dark masters.</p><p>&lt;/tinfoilhat&gt;</p><p>In all seriousness, though, whether planned by some diabolical secret cabal or not, I can see this confusion being purposefully used to sway the view of the common citizen.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>From the article : efforts at the international level to fight counterfeiting and piracyI have to wonder at the increase and sudden newsworthiness of Somalian piracy during the private talks around ACTA .
When it comes time to present it to the public , talk of counterfeiting and piracy will elicit images of counterfeit currency and Somalian pirates and the average Joe that has n't read much about the document will assume that those opposing it are a bunch of crazies .
Finally , the years of equating unauthorized IP distribution with piracy will come to fruition for our dark masters.In all seriousness , though , whether planned by some diabolical secret cabal or not , I can see this confusion being purposefully used to sway the view of the common citizen .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From the article: efforts at the international level to fight counterfeiting and piracyI have to wonder at the increase and sudden newsworthiness of Somalian piracy during the private talks around ACTA.
When it comes time to present it to the public, talk of counterfeiting and piracy will elicit images of counterfeit currency and Somalian pirates and the average Joe that hasn't read much about the document will assume that those opposing it are a bunch of crazies.
Finally, the years of equating unauthorized IP distribution with piracy will come to fruition for our dark masters.In all seriousness, though, whether planned by some diabolical secret cabal or not, I can see this confusion being purposefully used to sway the view of the common citizen.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_31_1915257.30972736</id>
	<title>Re:Could someone explain to me</title>
	<author>Smallpond</author>
	<datestamp>1264970340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Obviously it would not be in a democracy.  However many of us live in a <em>representative democracy</em> where our government represents <a href="http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial\_opinion/oped/articles/2010/01/24/a\_victory\_for\_free\_speech/" title="boston.com">those who speak the loudest</a> [boston.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Obviously it would not be in a democracy .
However many of us live in a representative democracy where our government represents those who speak the loudest [ boston.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Obviously it would not be in a democracy.
However many of us live in a representative democracy where our government represents those who speak the loudest [boston.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_31_1915257.30976276</id>
	<title>Won't/Can't happen</title>
	<author>Mathinker</author>
	<datestamp>1264948560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; Imagine a closed Internet where every communication, every URL and every download is logged.</p><p>Cannot happen. Well, at least effectively. Because of things called <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steganography" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">"steganography"</a> [wikipedia.org] and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect\_forward\_secrecy" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">"perfect forward secrecy"</a> [wikipedia.org].</p><p>So, no. The only closed Internet is a a read-only Internet.</p><p>It does lower the bandwidth a lot. But as Thing 1 already replied to you, the high-bandwidth stuff can be done by sneakernet.</p><p>Your fear from Trusted Computing is more real. But even there, we are close to the point where third-world countries can host illicit fabs for untrusted computing platforms. Well, I suppose if possession of untrusted computing would be punished draconianly.... but if it gets that bad, the third world will be looking like a really good place to live for a lot of us technophiles....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; Imagine a closed Internet where every communication , every URL and every download is logged.Can not happen .
Well , at least effectively .
Because of things called " steganography " [ wikipedia.org ] and " perfect forward secrecy " [ wikipedia.org ] .So , no .
The only closed Internet is a a read-only Internet.It does lower the bandwidth a lot .
But as Thing 1 already replied to you , the high-bandwidth stuff can be done by sneakernet.Your fear from Trusted Computing is more real .
But even there , we are close to the point where third-world countries can host illicit fabs for untrusted computing platforms .
Well , I suppose if possession of untrusted computing would be punished draconianly.... but if it gets that bad , the third world will be looking like a really good place to live for a lot of us technophiles... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; Imagine a closed Internet where every communication, every URL and every download is logged.Cannot happen.
Well, at least effectively.
Because of things called "steganography" [wikipedia.org] and "perfect forward secrecy" [wikipedia.org].So, no.
The only closed Internet is a a read-only Internet.It does lower the bandwidth a lot.
But as Thing 1 already replied to you, the high-bandwidth stuff can be done by sneakernet.Your fear from Trusted Computing is more real.
But even there, we are close to the point where third-world countries can host illicit fabs for untrusted computing platforms.
Well, I suppose if possession of untrusted computing would be punished draconianly.... but if it gets that bad, the third world will be looking like a really good place to live for a lot of us technophiles....</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_31_1915257.30974132</id>
	<title>Re:They do realize it has to go public at some poi</title>
	<author>westlake</author>
	<datestamp>1264934520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>All of this secrecy just feeds the intense interest from the public </i></p><p><i><br>The story may have the Slashdot's attention. But you have drill down deep elsewhere to have even heard of it.</i></p></htmltext>
<tokenext>All of this secrecy just feeds the intense interest from the public The story may have the Slashdot 's attention .
But you have drill down deep elsewhere to have even heard of it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All of this secrecy just feeds the intense interest from the public The story may have the Slashdot's attention.
But you have drill down deep elsewhere to have even heard of it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_31_1915257.30972702</id>
	<title>Re:Could someone explain to me</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264970160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>ACTA is basically saying "We got the DMCA in the USA, so why don't you write a similar law where you are... or we're going to raise the price of our content to the point we break your economy!"</htmltext>
<tokenext>ACTA is basically saying " We got the DMCA in the USA , so why do n't you write a similar law where you are... or we 're going to raise the price of our content to the point we break your economy !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>ACTA is basically saying "We got the DMCA in the USA, so why don't you write a similar law where you are... or we're going to raise the price of our content to the point we break your economy!
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_31_1915257.30975000</id>
	<title>Chuck Norris says...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264940160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>""This past week Guadalajara, Mexico hosted the 7th secret meeting of ACTA proponents who continue to ignore demands worldwide to open the debate to the public. Piecing together official and leaked documents from various global sources, Michael Geist has coalesced it all into a five part ACTA Guide that offers structured insight into what these talks might foist upon the populace at large"</p><p>One World Government.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" " This past week Guadalajara , Mexico hosted the 7th secret meeting of ACTA proponents who continue to ignore demands worldwide to open the debate to the public .
Piecing together official and leaked documents from various global sources , Michael Geist has coalesced it all into a five part ACTA Guide that offers structured insight into what these talks might foist upon the populace at large " One World Government .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>""This past week Guadalajara, Mexico hosted the 7th secret meeting of ACTA proponents who continue to ignore demands worldwide to open the debate to the public.
Piecing together official and leaked documents from various global sources, Michael Geist has coalesced it all into a five part ACTA Guide that offers structured insight into what these talks might foist upon the populace at large"One World Government.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_31_1915257.30974596</id>
	<title>Re:Could someone explain to me</title>
	<author>gmuslera</author>
	<datestamp>1264937400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Its called "representative democracy", you vote your representants, and then they do what they want. If their misbehave, is not their fault, or constitution fault. Is yours, or if you like, your countriy's citizen fault, even if was just gullibility.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Its called " representative democracy " , you vote your representants , and then they do what they want .
If their misbehave , is not their fault , or constitution fault .
Is yours , or if you like , your countriy 's citizen fault , even if was just gullibility .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Its called "representative democracy", you vote your representants, and then they do what they want.
If their misbehave, is not their fault, or constitution fault.
Is yours, or if you like, your countriy's citizen fault, even if was just gullibility.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_31_1915257.30973914</id>
	<title>Re:Could someone explain to me</title>
	<author>funkatron</author>
	<datestamp>1264933560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's constitutional because the constitution doesn't include any reference to your gut feelings.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's constitutional because the constitution does n't include any reference to your gut feelings .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's constitutional because the constitution doesn't include any reference to your gut feelings.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_31_1915257.30972542</id>
	<title>Fuck ACTA</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264969200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>That is all.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That is all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That is all.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_31_1915257.30972678</id>
	<title>waggers</title>
	<author>epine</author>
	<datestamp>1264970100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>USTR head Ron Kirk has reportedly said that countries would walk away from the treaty if the text were made available</p></div><p>I don't get this.  If our elected leaders walk off on the job, we already have a mechanism in place to fix this: a general election.  Maybe the next batch is willing to contend with the issue under democratic conditions, such as open consultation.</p><p>Oh, you mean only the tinpots will walk away from the table, which will hurt us more than it hurts them.  Why didn't you make yourself clear in the first place?  Democracy is good, except when negotiating with tinpots, which necessarily takes place on their terms, in the best interest of all concerned.</p><p>Nice tail-wags-the-dog justification for subverting democratic transparency.</p><p>Or is there something I missed here?  Did I skip an essential chapter in Democracy for Dummies?  I feel so stupid.  Our politicians are willing to shine their eminent sensibilities on this problem and all they want is a little secrecy to work their magic for the good of humanity?  There's just no respect in this world, is there?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>USTR head Ron Kirk has reportedly said that countries would walk away from the treaty if the text were made availableI do n't get this .
If our elected leaders walk off on the job , we already have a mechanism in place to fix this : a general election .
Maybe the next batch is willing to contend with the issue under democratic conditions , such as open consultation.Oh , you mean only the tinpots will walk away from the table , which will hurt us more than it hurts them .
Why did n't you make yourself clear in the first place ?
Democracy is good , except when negotiating with tinpots , which necessarily takes place on their terms , in the best interest of all concerned.Nice tail-wags-the-dog justification for subverting democratic transparency.Or is there something I missed here ?
Did I skip an essential chapter in Democracy for Dummies ?
I feel so stupid .
Our politicians are willing to shine their eminent sensibilities on this problem and all they want is a little secrecy to work their magic for the good of humanity ?
There 's just no respect in this world , is there ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>USTR head Ron Kirk has reportedly said that countries would walk away from the treaty if the text were made availableI don't get this.
If our elected leaders walk off on the job, we already have a mechanism in place to fix this: a general election.
Maybe the next batch is willing to contend with the issue under democratic conditions, such as open consultation.Oh, you mean only the tinpots will walk away from the table, which will hurt us more than it hurts them.
Why didn't you make yourself clear in the first place?
Democracy is good, except when negotiating with tinpots, which necessarily takes place on their terms, in the best interest of all concerned.Nice tail-wags-the-dog justification for subverting democratic transparency.Or is there something I missed here?
Did I skip an essential chapter in Democracy for Dummies?
I feel so stupid.
Our politicians are willing to shine their eminent sensibilities on this problem and all they want is a little secrecy to work their magic for the good of humanity?
There's just no respect in this world, is there?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_31_1915257.30984500</id>
	<title>The first rule of ACTA</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265053380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You DON'T talk about ACTA!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You DO N'T talk about ACTA !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You DON'T talk about ACTA!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_31_1915257.30972598</id>
	<title>No Jokes Here</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264969560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Get it together, people. We understand the implications and can make the right noises to the right people.</p><p>The public will sleep safer knowing we're out there, doing something.</p><p>Like the Batman.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Get it together , people .
We understand the implications and can make the right noises to the right people.The public will sleep safer knowing we 're out there , doing something.Like the Batman .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Get it together, people.
We understand the implications and can make the right noises to the right people.The public will sleep safer knowing we're out there, doing something.Like the Batman.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_31_1915257.30976174</id>
	<title>If you haven't already</title>
	<author>T Murphy</author>
	<datestamp>1264947600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Write to your representatives in the national government. It might not mean much, but it's the best (legal) way to get your voice heard. The same arguments why not voting is a bad idea generally apply here.<br> <br>

The best thing is, it might only take one country pulling out to put the ACTA into question everywhere.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Write to your representatives in the national government .
It might not mean much , but it 's the best ( legal ) way to get your voice heard .
The same arguments why not voting is a bad idea generally apply here .
The best thing is , it might only take one country pulling out to put the ACTA into question everywhere .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Write to your representatives in the national government.
It might not mean much, but it's the best (legal) way to get your voice heard.
The same arguments why not voting is a bad idea generally apply here.
The best thing is, it might only take one country pulling out to put the ACTA into question everywhere.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_31_1915257.30974584</id>
	<title>Re:Really, it's stupid. And also in effect in the</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264937340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>ACTA also seeks to add in some things they have in France like their three strikes law and other goodies that aren't in the US just yet. ACTA will fix all of that though, I also assume fair use will be neutered beyond belief.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>ACTA also seeks to add in some things they have in France like their three strikes law and other goodies that are n't in the US just yet .
ACTA will fix all of that though , I also assume fair use will be neutered beyond belief .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>ACTA also seeks to add in some things they have in France like their three strikes law and other goodies that aren't in the US just yet.
ACTA will fix all of that though, I also assume fair use will be neutered beyond belief.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_31_1915257.30974788</id>
	<title>ACTA will kill people</title>
	<author>Weezul</author>
	<datestamp>1264938780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>TRIPS kills people.  ACTA will kill vastly more people.</p><p>"ACTA will kill people" is the meme your looking for.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>TRIPS kills people .
ACTA will kill vastly more people .
" ACTA will kill people " is the meme your looking for .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>TRIPS kills people.
ACTA will kill vastly more people.
"ACTA will kill people" is the meme your looking for.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_31_1915257.30974374</id>
	<title>Re:Could someone explain to me</title>
	<author>ultranova</author>
	<datestamp>1264935840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>ACTA is basically saying "We got the DMCA in the USA, so why don't you write a similar law where you are... or we're going to raise the price of our content to the point we break your economy!"</p></div> </blockquote><p>Empty threat, as anyone who wants the content but doesn't want to pay can already get it for free from <a href="http://isohunt.com/" title="isohunt.com">isohunt</a> [isohunt.com]. And even if they couldn't, do you really think that people would get themselves bankcrupt over <em>entertainment</em>?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>ACTA is basically saying " We got the DMCA in the USA , so why do n't you write a similar law where you are... or we 're going to raise the price of our content to the point we break your economy !
" Empty threat , as anyone who wants the content but does n't want to pay can already get it for free from isohunt [ isohunt.com ] .
And even if they could n't , do you really think that people would get themselves bankcrupt over entertainment ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>ACTA is basically saying "We got the DMCA in the USA, so why don't you write a similar law where you are... or we're going to raise the price of our content to the point we break your economy!
" Empty threat, as anyone who wants the content but doesn't want to pay can already get it for free from isohunt [isohunt.com].
And even if they couldn't, do you really think that people would get themselves bankcrupt over entertainment?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_31_1915257.30977308</id>
	<title>Re:It's not just the secresy but the content!</title>
	<author>gink1</author>
	<datestamp>1264958880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Secret laws designed to prevent public comment is completely abhorrent by itself but . . .</p><p>It the content of the Treaty which is 100\% contrary to the interests of the signing countries that is the worst feature of ACTA!</p><p>ACTA is written by Big Media and those with a vision to remake the internet into a copyright policing system and ultimately into a pay per use network.</p><p>What do they get? Effective monopoly on most media.<br>What do we get? Loss of net neutrality (which is already being removed by the FCC for peer to peer systems). ISP policing with a 3 strikes policy only as fair as the ISP makes it, with no appeal and resulting in permanent loss of internet if invoked.</p><p>ACTA is an offensive, poorly written and completely undemocratic power grab designed to take citizens by stealth and surprise and result in Billion dollar empires for the Cartel creating it, not to mention their henchmen the RIAA and MPAA - and in the White House.</p><p>Somehow we MUST put a stop to ACTA and to this method of Treaty Takeover!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Secret laws designed to prevent public comment is completely abhorrent by itself but .
. .It the content of the Treaty which is 100 \ % contrary to the interests of the signing countries that is the worst feature of ACTA ! ACTA is written by Big Media and those with a vision to remake the internet into a copyright policing system and ultimately into a pay per use network.What do they get ?
Effective monopoly on most media.What do we get ?
Loss of net neutrality ( which is already being removed by the FCC for peer to peer systems ) .
ISP policing with a 3 strikes policy only as fair as the ISP makes it , with no appeal and resulting in permanent loss of internet if invoked.ACTA is an offensive , poorly written and completely undemocratic power grab designed to take citizens by stealth and surprise and result in Billion dollar empires for the Cartel creating it , not to mention their henchmen the RIAA and MPAA - and in the White House.Somehow we MUST put a stop to ACTA and to this method of Treaty Takeover !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Secret laws designed to prevent public comment is completely abhorrent by itself but .
. .It the content of the Treaty which is 100\% contrary to the interests of the signing countries that is the worst feature of ACTA!ACTA is written by Big Media and those with a vision to remake the internet into a copyright policing system and ultimately into a pay per use network.What do they get?
Effective monopoly on most media.What do we get?
Loss of net neutrality (which is already being removed by the FCC for peer to peer systems).
ISP policing with a 3 strikes policy only as fair as the ISP makes it, with no appeal and resulting in permanent loss of internet if invoked.ACTA is an offensive, poorly written and completely undemocratic power grab designed to take citizens by stealth and surprise and result in Billion dollar empires for the Cartel creating it, not to mention their henchmen the RIAA and MPAA - and in the White House.Somehow we MUST put a stop to ACTA and to this method of Treaty Takeover!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_31_1915257.30972676</id>
	<title>Really, it's stupid. And also in effect in the US</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264970040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's all about standardizing shipping documents between countries. If you have ever tried to ship something bigger than a letter to the U.S., you'd find yourself spending an inordinate amount of time filling out forms just to get it into the American borders.</p><p>ACTA aims to make this pain equal across the board. In some ways it will protect shippers because the better they describe the contents of the package, the less likely it will be to be targeted for extra search measures. On the other hand, who in their right mind ever tells the complete truth on shipping documents? Shipping company hardware overseas isn't a gift, and it isn't really a "customer sample", and it definitely isn't a "commercial sample" or any other category listed on the document. So you usually just mark it as something random and give it a value of 50USD and hope for the best.</p><p>God help you if you try to send anything that could possibly generate radio signals. There is an additional form just for that.</p><p>The ACTA will pass because it will make it easy to manage documentation for shipping. There won't be a need to keep different forms for different countries at the post office or FedEx counter anymore. Everyone just uses the same ridiculously difficult forms that require signing in triplicate and exact descriptions of the shipment items.</p><p>Good day, Citizen. Papers please.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's all about standardizing shipping documents between countries .
If you have ever tried to ship something bigger than a letter to the U.S. , you 'd find yourself spending an inordinate amount of time filling out forms just to get it into the American borders.ACTA aims to make this pain equal across the board .
In some ways it will protect shippers because the better they describe the contents of the package , the less likely it will be to be targeted for extra search measures .
On the other hand , who in their right mind ever tells the complete truth on shipping documents ?
Shipping company hardware overseas is n't a gift , and it is n't really a " customer sample " , and it definitely is n't a " commercial sample " or any other category listed on the document .
So you usually just mark it as something random and give it a value of 50USD and hope for the best.God help you if you try to send anything that could possibly generate radio signals .
There is an additional form just for that.The ACTA will pass because it will make it easy to manage documentation for shipping .
There wo n't be a need to keep different forms for different countries at the post office or FedEx counter anymore .
Everyone just uses the same ridiculously difficult forms that require signing in triplicate and exact descriptions of the shipment items.Good day , Citizen .
Papers please .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's all about standardizing shipping documents between countries.
If you have ever tried to ship something bigger than a letter to the U.S., you'd find yourself spending an inordinate amount of time filling out forms just to get it into the American borders.ACTA aims to make this pain equal across the board.
In some ways it will protect shippers because the better they describe the contents of the package, the less likely it will be to be targeted for extra search measures.
On the other hand, who in their right mind ever tells the complete truth on shipping documents?
Shipping company hardware overseas isn't a gift, and it isn't really a "customer sample", and it definitely isn't a "commercial sample" or any other category listed on the document.
So you usually just mark it as something random and give it a value of 50USD and hope for the best.God help you if you try to send anything that could possibly generate radio signals.
There is an additional form just for that.The ACTA will pass because it will make it easy to manage documentation for shipping.
There won't be a need to keep different forms for different countries at the post office or FedEx counter anymore.
Everyone just uses the same ridiculously difficult forms that require signing in triplicate and exact descriptions of the shipment items.Good day, Citizen.
Papers please.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_31_1915257.30973142</id>
	<title>Re:Fuck ACTA</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1264929420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Follow the money.</p><p>There. There&rsquo;s your sense.</p><p>Case closed. ^^</p><p>Now where is my giant space ray gun, when I need it?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Follow the money.There .
There    s your sense.Case closed .
^ ^ Now where is my giant space ray gun , when I need it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Follow the money.There.
There’s your sense.Case closed.
^^Now where is my giant space ray gun, when I need it?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_31_1915257.30974994</id>
	<title>Re:how to defeat acta:</title>
	<author>martas</author>
	<datestamp>1264940160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>there is no law that cannot be enforced, given sufficient resources. and one thing the MAFIAA has is resources.

<br> <br>

you think anti-piracy laws are unenforceable? let me paint you a picture:<br>
the internet has become a commodity like power or water, not in terms of how widespread it is, but because it is thoroughly regulated. anonymity is dead. MAC addresses are impossible to change, and are registered to a specific individual (perhaps a set of individuals, if it's a machine shared by a, say, family). owning a network card with a counterfeit MAC is a federal offense. ISP's are fully regulated, and are required to record if not all traffic, then at least all packet headers. a system is in place by which a government organization can gain instant access to any ISP's records, and even live traffic at any router. a rag-tag group of disgruntled idealists/poor teenagers can't stand up to a fully organized effort to shut them up.<br>
far-fetched? sure. impossible? fuck no.</htmltext>
<tokenext>there is no law that can not be enforced , given sufficient resources .
and one thing the MAFIAA has is resources .
you think anti-piracy laws are unenforceable ?
let me paint you a picture : the internet has become a commodity like power or water , not in terms of how widespread it is , but because it is thoroughly regulated .
anonymity is dead .
MAC addresses are impossible to change , and are registered to a specific individual ( perhaps a set of individuals , if it 's a machine shared by a , say , family ) .
owning a network card with a counterfeit MAC is a federal offense .
ISP 's are fully regulated , and are required to record if not all traffic , then at least all packet headers .
a system is in place by which a government organization can gain instant access to any ISP 's records , and even live traffic at any router .
a rag-tag group of disgruntled idealists/poor teenagers ca n't stand up to a fully organized effort to shut them up .
far-fetched ? sure .
impossible ? fuck no .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>there is no law that cannot be enforced, given sufficient resources.
and one thing the MAFIAA has is resources.
you think anti-piracy laws are unenforceable?
let me paint you a picture:
the internet has become a commodity like power or water, not in terms of how widespread it is, but because it is thoroughly regulated.
anonymity is dead.
MAC addresses are impossible to change, and are registered to a specific individual (perhaps a set of individuals, if it's a machine shared by a, say, family).
owning a network card with a counterfeit MAC is a federal offense.
ISP's are fully regulated, and are required to record if not all traffic, then at least all packet headers.
a system is in place by which a government organization can gain instant access to any ISP's records, and even live traffic at any router.
a rag-tag group of disgruntled idealists/poor teenagers can't stand up to a fully organized effort to shut them up.
far-fetched? sure.
impossible? fuck no.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_31_1915257.30977016</id>
	<title>Re:unauthorized IP distribution = piracy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264956240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, just as Disney used the Pirates of the Caribbean trilogy to glamorise piracy &amp; promote their pro-sharing, anti-copyright agenda.</p><p>Oh, wait...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , just as Disney used the Pirates of the Caribbean trilogy to glamorise piracy &amp; promote their pro-sharing , anti-copyright agenda.Oh , wait.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, just as Disney used the Pirates of the Caribbean trilogy to glamorise piracy &amp; promote their pro-sharing, anti-copyright agenda.Oh, wait...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_31_1915257.30973180</id>
	<title>Re:Fuck ACTA</title>
	<author>Yvanhoe</author>
	<datestamp>1264929660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's not all.<br>
Join the Pirate Party.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's not all .
Join the Pirate Party .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's not all.
Join the Pirate Party.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_31_1915257.30977422</id>
	<title>Re:Fuck ACTA</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264959960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I agree. Stop throwing up fucking acronyms without at least defining them once in your story. Not everyone is an expert in your particular area of interest.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree .
Stop throwing up fucking acronyms without at least defining them once in your story .
Not everyone is an expert in your particular area of interest .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree.
Stop throwing up fucking acronyms without at least defining them once in your story.
Not everyone is an expert in your particular area of interest.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_31_1915257.30976808</id>
	<title>Hopefully no laws will come out of it</title>
	<author>physburn</author>
	<datestamp>1264953900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>  Its difficult to get politicians from different countries to agree
on anything. Getting the USA and Europe to agree is hard enough,
but expecting Russia and the Far East to agree on a global copyright
law, seems incredible to me. I bet these meetings will continue though
as the politicians get regular payed for holidays and the expenses of
all copyright vested interests.
<p>
---
</p><p>
<a href="http://www.feeddistiller.com/blogs/Piracy/feed.html" title="feeddistiller.com">Piracy</a> [feeddistiller.com] Feed @ <a href="http://www.feeddistiller.com/" title="feeddistiller.com">Feed Distiller</a> [feeddistiller.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Its difficult to get politicians from different countries to agree on anything .
Getting the USA and Europe to agree is hard enough , but expecting Russia and the Far East to agree on a global copyright law , seems incredible to me .
I bet these meetings will continue though as the politicians get regular payed for holidays and the expenses of all copyright vested interests .
--- Piracy [ feeddistiller.com ] Feed @ Feed Distiller [ feeddistiller.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>  Its difficult to get politicians from different countries to agree
on anything.
Getting the USA and Europe to agree is hard enough,
but expecting Russia and the Far East to agree on a global copyright
law, seems incredible to me.
I bet these meetings will continue though
as the politicians get regular payed for holidays and the expenses of
all copyright vested interests.
---

Piracy [feeddistiller.com] Feed @ Feed Distiller [feeddistiller.com]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_31_1915257.30973354</id>
	<title>Re:Could someone explain to me</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264930620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Maybe if you can get a sunshine amendment made to the constitution you'd have a point. Until then you don't have a point.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe if you can get a sunshine amendment made to the constitution you 'd have a point .
Until then you do n't have a point .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe if you can get a sunshine amendment made to the constitution you'd have a point.
Until then you don't have a point.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_31_1915257.30975126</id>
	<title>Re:unauthorized IP distribution = piracy</title>
	<author>Zerth</author>
	<datestamp>1264941060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Have you noticed that, with the increased mention of Somalian piracy, that this winter has been a bit chill?</p><p>I think it is a sign from the FSM, but I'm not sure if it is positive of negative.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Have you noticed that , with the increased mention of Somalian piracy , that this winter has been a bit chill ? I think it is a sign from the FSM , but I 'm not sure if it is positive of negative .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have you noticed that, with the increased mention of Somalian piracy, that this winter has been a bit chill?I think it is a sign from the FSM, but I'm not sure if it is positive of negative.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_31_1915257.30972964</id>
	<title>They do realize it has to go public at some point?</title>
	<author>DJRumpy</author>
	<datestamp>1264971540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>All of this secrecy just feeds the intense interest from the public. Everyone from conspiracy theorists, to fringe lunatics will have ample time to take pot shots at it. That said, they do realize that at some point, they will have to put their 'yay' or 'nay' on this thing? It will be obvious to anyone wanting to read it what it says? If it adversely affects millions of Americans in any significant way, the folks who ratify this thing are history. Brown should be a good reminder of that. Piss enough people off, or scare them enough, and they will act out of self defense. I don't see anything in ACTA that is comfortable, and it actually does make me extremely nervous that only folks like the RIAA are invited to attend. I've seen the ridiculous lengths they will go to and what they consider sane and sensible.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>All of this secrecy just feeds the intense interest from the public .
Everyone from conspiracy theorists , to fringe lunatics will have ample time to take pot shots at it .
That said , they do realize that at some point , they will have to put their 'yay ' or 'nay ' on this thing ?
It will be obvious to anyone wanting to read it what it says ?
If it adversely affects millions of Americans in any significant way , the folks who ratify this thing are history .
Brown should be a good reminder of that .
Piss enough people off , or scare them enough , and they will act out of self defense .
I do n't see anything in ACTA that is comfortable , and it actually does make me extremely nervous that only folks like the RIAA are invited to attend .
I 've seen the ridiculous lengths they will go to and what they consider sane and sensible .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All of this secrecy just feeds the intense interest from the public.
Everyone from conspiracy theorists, to fringe lunatics will have ample time to take pot shots at it.
That said, they do realize that at some point, they will have to put their 'yay' or 'nay' on this thing?
It will be obvious to anyone wanting to read it what it says?
If it adversely affects millions of Americans in any significant way, the folks who ratify this thing are history.
Brown should be a good reminder of that.
Piss enough people off, or scare them enough, and they will act out of self defense.
I don't see anything in ACTA that is comfortable, and it actually does make me extremely nervous that only folks like the RIAA are invited to attend.
I've seen the ridiculous lengths they will go to and what they consider sane and sensible.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_31_1915257.30974674</id>
	<title>American Criminal Transportation Authority?</title>
	<author>zaivala</author>
	<datestamp>1264937880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have just read this article and two layers down in links, and have YET to find what "ACTA" is or means.  Please add this information to the article -- not all of us can remember the tons of alphabet soup we are being fed.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have just read this article and two layers down in links , and have YET to find what " ACTA " is or means .
Please add this information to the article -- not all of us can remember the tons of alphabet soup we are being fed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have just read this article and two layers down in links, and have YET to find what "ACTA" is or means.
Please add this information to the article -- not all of us can remember the tons of alphabet soup we are being fed.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_31_1915257.30973572</id>
	<title>Re:Fuck ACTA</title>
	<author>pydev</author>
	<datestamp>1264931760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In Soviet Russia, ACTA fucks you.  Oh, also in Europe and the US.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In Soviet Russia , ACTA fucks you .
Oh , also in Europe and the US .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In Soviet Russia, ACTA fucks you.
Oh, also in Europe and the US.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_31_1915257.30974726</id>
	<title>Re:how to defeat acta:</title>
	<author>syousef</author>
	<datestamp>1264938300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>let them pass any law they want. no really: what is the value of an unenforceable law? </i></p><p>It's not unenforceable. The tech can be turned against it's users. Imagine a closed Internet where every communication, every URL and every download is logged. We're not that far off such a thing. So people stop using the net and start copying files. What do you think "trusted" computing is about. There will be a day when hard drives start dobbing their owners in. Imagine mass round ups of teenagers that are guilty until proven innocent and go to jail for years over copyright infringement. It's all possible if no one stands up to this madness.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>let them pass any law they want .
no really : what is the value of an unenforceable law ?
It 's not unenforceable .
The tech can be turned against it 's users .
Imagine a closed Internet where every communication , every URL and every download is logged .
We 're not that far off such a thing .
So people stop using the net and start copying files .
What do you think " trusted " computing is about .
There will be a day when hard drives start dobbing their owners in .
Imagine mass round ups of teenagers that are guilty until proven innocent and go to jail for years over copyright infringement .
It 's all possible if no one stands up to this madness .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>let them pass any law they want.
no really: what is the value of an unenforceable law?
It's not unenforceable.
The tech can be turned against it's users.
Imagine a closed Internet where every communication, every URL and every download is logged.
We're not that far off such a thing.
So people stop using the net and start copying files.
What do you think "trusted" computing is about.
There will be a day when hard drives start dobbing their owners in.
Imagine mass round ups of teenagers that are guilty until proven innocent and go to jail for years over copyright infringement.
It's all possible if no one stands up to this madness.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_31_1915257.30975130</id>
	<title>Re:how to defeat acta:</title>
	<author>selven</author>
	<datestamp>1264941120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nobody is worried about the future of distributing content. There will always be crackers, and the effort of one is enough to liberate some piece of content for everyone. What we're worried about is that the *AA will destroy the internet trying.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nobody is worried about the future of distributing content .
There will always be crackers , and the effort of one is enough to liberate some piece of content for everyone .
What we 're worried about is that the * AA will destroy the internet trying .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nobody is worried about the future of distributing content.
There will always be crackers, and the effort of one is enough to liberate some piece of content for everyone.
What we're worried about is that the *AA will destroy the internet trying.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_31_1915257.30979458</id>
	<title>iran and china can't cope</title>
	<author>circletimessquare</author>
	<datestamp>1265029680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>they have all the legal justification, all the enforcement apparatuses, and a dire existential reason to fight an open internet, and they still can't cope</p><p>so you think a small industrial sector: distribution of media, can do a better job?</p><p>it's a contest: open internet versus a dying economic distribution model. internet wins, easy</p><p>you obfuscate the connection, you encrypt it, you darknet it, you disguise it as ip packets on port 80, you make it look like smtp email, you make it look like put form responses on a webpage, you employ steganography: it's an arms race, and it's guerrilla warfare: they have to block everything, you just have to tunnel effectively. they can't cope, they can't keep up, they can't staff and fund the effort necessary to counteract the constant mercurial creative efforts none of us have even dreamed up yet. even if they shut down one method, ten more pop up they have to learn to cope with. its a hydra: cut off one head, eight more shoot up harder to cope with than before</p><p>then you package it in software any idiot who can point and click can use easily, and then you give it away for free</p><p>no, i'm sorry: the free and open internet wins this contest, really. the benefits of an unregulated internet, in terms of new technologies, new uses trumps, by far, according to anyone, including governments, pandering to one dying economic sector</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>they have all the legal justification , all the enforcement apparatuses , and a dire existential reason to fight an open internet , and they still ca n't copeso you think a small industrial sector : distribution of media , can do a better job ? it 's a contest : open internet versus a dying economic distribution model .
internet wins , easyyou obfuscate the connection , you encrypt it , you darknet it , you disguise it as ip packets on port 80 , you make it look like smtp email , you make it look like put form responses on a webpage , you employ steganography : it 's an arms race , and it 's guerrilla warfare : they have to block everything , you just have to tunnel effectively .
they ca n't cope , they ca n't keep up , they ca n't staff and fund the effort necessary to counteract the constant mercurial creative efforts none of us have even dreamed up yet .
even if they shut down one method , ten more pop up they have to learn to cope with .
its a hydra : cut off one head , eight more shoot up harder to cope with than beforethen you package it in software any idiot who can point and click can use easily , and then you give it away for freeno , i 'm sorry : the free and open internet wins this contest , really .
the benefits of an unregulated internet , in terms of new technologies , new uses trumps , by far , according to anyone , including governments , pandering to one dying economic sector</tokentext>
<sentencetext>they have all the legal justification, all the enforcement apparatuses, and a dire existential reason to fight an open internet, and they still can't copeso you think a small industrial sector: distribution of media, can do a better job?it's a contest: open internet versus a dying economic distribution model.
internet wins, easyyou obfuscate the connection, you encrypt it, you darknet it, you disguise it as ip packets on port 80, you make it look like smtp email, you make it look like put form responses on a webpage, you employ steganography: it's an arms race, and it's guerrilla warfare: they have to block everything, you just have to tunnel effectively.
they can't cope, they can't keep up, they can't staff and fund the effort necessary to counteract the constant mercurial creative efforts none of us have even dreamed up yet.
even if they shut down one method, ten more pop up they have to learn to cope with.
its a hydra: cut off one head, eight more shoot up harder to cope with than beforethen you package it in software any idiot who can point and click can use easily, and then you give it away for freeno, i'm sorry: the free and open internet wins this contest, really.
the benefits of an unregulated internet, in terms of new technologies, new uses trumps, by far, according to anyone, including governments, pandering to one dying economic sector</sentencetext>
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