<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_01_30_0137220</id>
	<title>Gun With Wireless Arming Signal Goes On Sale Soon</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1264856520000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>An anonymous reader writes <i>"Armatix has <a href="http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/01/high-tech-guns-digital-revolvers-koosh-bullets-and-triple-tasers">built a pistol that will disarm itself</a> when it is taken away from <a href="http://www.armatix.com/Smart-System.38.0.html?&amp;L=1">a watch that sends it a wireless arming signal</a>. The .22 caliber guns will go on sale in the US within months, and the initial price is 7,000 euro. Higher caliber models will follow. To activate the gun, users must enter a pin code on the wristwatch, and then keep it within roughly 20cm of the gun. If the person is disarmed, the gun can't be used against them. Also coming soon this year, civilians will also be able to buy three-shot Tasers, rubber bullets, as well as Heckler and Koch black rifles."</i> This <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,73763,00.html">might not be good news for the citizens of New Jersey</a>.</htmltext>
<tokenext>An anonymous reader writes " Armatix has built a pistol that will disarm itself when it is taken away from a watch that sends it a wireless arming signal .
The .22 caliber guns will go on sale in the US within months , and the initial price is 7,000 euro .
Higher caliber models will follow .
To activate the gun , users must enter a pin code on the wristwatch , and then keep it within roughly 20cm of the gun .
If the person is disarmed , the gun ca n't be used against them .
Also coming soon this year , civilians will also be able to buy three-shot Tasers , rubber bullets , as well as Heckler and Koch black rifles .
" This might not be good news for the citizens of New Jersey .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An anonymous reader writes "Armatix has built a pistol that will disarm itself when it is taken away from a watch that sends it a wireless arming signal.
The .22 caliber guns will go on sale in the US within months, and the initial price is 7,000 euro.
Higher caliber models will follow.
To activate the gun, users must enter a pin code on the wristwatch, and then keep it within roughly 20cm of the gun.
If the person is disarmed, the gun can't be used against them.
Also coming soon this year, civilians will also be able to buy three-shot Tasers, rubber bullets, as well as Heckler and Koch black rifles.
" This might not be good news for the citizens of New Jersey.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30963012</id>
	<title>The O'Dwyer VLE</title>
	<author>Cruciform</author>
	<datestamp>1264873260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>O'Dwyer had prototypes for handguns that were armed and disarmed by a wedding-band-like ring, which probably contained an RFID tag, a decade ago.</p><p>These are the guys that created Metal Storm, which is probably one of the coolest gun videos on YouTube<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>O'Dwyer had prototypes for handguns that were armed and disarmed by a wedding-band-like ring , which probably contained an RFID tag , a decade ago.These are the guys that created Metal Storm , which is probably one of the coolest gun videos on YouTube : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>O'Dwyer had prototypes for handguns that were armed and disarmed by a wedding-band-like ring, which probably contained an RFID tag, a decade ago.These are the guys that created Metal Storm, which is probably one of the coolest gun videos on YouTube :)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30962184</id>
	<title>Ban guns altogether</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264866780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Should just ban guns like done in the UK, worked well enough here.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Should just ban guns like done in the UK , worked well enough here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Should just ban guns like done in the UK, worked well enough here.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30977586</id>
	<title>Awesome!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264961520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How do I go about getting one of these for my hunting knife?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How do I go about getting one of these for my hunting knife ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How do I go about getting one of these for my hunting knife?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30962498</id>
	<title>Foreshadowed by Judge Dredd</title>
	<author>HockeyPuck</author>
	<datestamp>1264869300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In the comic book the gun would explode if it did not detect the correct palm print (of the owner) when fired.  While in the Stallone movie, the gun would deliver a powerful electric shock.  I think the gun would also encode each bullet with the DNA of the shooter for bullet identification...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In the comic book the gun would explode if it did not detect the correct palm print ( of the owner ) when fired .
While in the Stallone movie , the gun would deliver a powerful electric shock .
I think the gun would also encode each bullet with the DNA of the shooter for bullet identification.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the comic book the gun would explode if it did not detect the correct palm print (of the owner) when fired.
While in the Stallone movie, the gun would deliver a powerful electric shock.
I think the gun would also encode each bullet with the DNA of the shooter for bullet identification...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30963664</id>
	<title>Re:Here's an idea...</title>
	<author>Vegeta99</author>
	<datestamp>1264876920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or would you? A righty's gonna put a watch on his left wrist, that's much easier than the converse. Then, try to fire with their right hand.</p><p>I guess I'm lucky. I'm a righty, but left eye dominant, so shoot left handed. Guess this wouldn't bother me, if I didn't have to use the shitty-looking watch that comes with it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or would you ?
A righty 's gon na put a watch on his left wrist , that 's much easier than the converse .
Then , try to fire with their right hand.I guess I 'm lucky .
I 'm a righty , but left eye dominant , so shoot left handed .
Guess this would n't bother me , if I did n't have to use the shitty-looking watch that comes with it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or would you?
A righty's gonna put a watch on his left wrist, that's much easier than the converse.
Then, try to fire with their right hand.I guess I'm lucky.
I'm a righty, but left eye dominant, so shoot left handed.
Guess this wouldn't bother me, if I didn't have to use the shitty-looking watch that comes with it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30961920</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30961920</id>
	<title>Re:Here's an idea...</title>
	<author>Ragzouken</author>
	<datestamp>1264864620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In a life or death situation you'd just put the watch on the same arm you're holding the gun with.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In a life or death situation you 'd just put the watch on the same arm you 're holding the gun with .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In a life or death situation you'd just put the watch on the same arm you're holding the gun with.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30961758</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30964066</id>
	<title>Re:Strange fascination</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264879020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It is the duty of everyone who wants true freedom to be able to defend it. You can pretend this is not so, but then when your freedom is threatened and you cannot defend yourself, you will not be free any longer. You can pretend to live in a world where there will be no conflict, but this seems foolish. Just having the knowledge and skill to defend yourself does not mean you have to use that ability to bully others. And trying to deny others the right to defend themselves is just as repulsive to me as the idea of self-defense seems to be to you (if not more).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It is the duty of everyone who wants true freedom to be able to defend it .
You can pretend this is not so , but then when your freedom is threatened and you can not defend yourself , you will not be free any longer .
You can pretend to live in a world where there will be no conflict , but this seems foolish .
Just having the knowledge and skill to defend yourself does not mean you have to use that ability to bully others .
And trying to deny others the right to defend themselves is just as repulsive to me as the idea of self-defense seems to be to you ( if not more ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is the duty of everyone who wants true freedom to be able to defend it.
You can pretend this is not so, but then when your freedom is threatened and you cannot defend yourself, you will not be free any longer.
You can pretend to live in a world where there will be no conflict, but this seems foolish.
Just having the knowledge and skill to defend yourself does not mean you have to use that ability to bully others.
And trying to deny others the right to defend themselves is just as repulsive to me as the idea of self-defense seems to be to you (if not more).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30961904</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30965310</id>
	<title>Good for movie plot, little else</title>
	<author>jroysdon</author>
	<datestamp>1264844820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This gun and all its flaws and different situations are good for a movie/tv show plot, and little else.</p><p>No doubt there will be a "disable" signal that can be sent by "authorized police" as well in these guns.  Yet another movie plotline with, you know, bad crackers getting access to such a code and disabling all police guns, or whatever.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This gun and all its flaws and different situations are good for a movie/tv show plot , and little else.No doubt there will be a " disable " signal that can be sent by " authorized police " as well in these guns .
Yet another movie plotline with , you know , bad crackers getting access to such a code and disabling all police guns , or whatever .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This gun and all its flaws and different situations are good for a movie/tv show plot, and little else.No doubt there will be a "disable" signal that can be sent by "authorized police" as well in these guns.
Yet another movie plotline with, you know, bad crackers getting access to such a code and disabling all police guns, or whatever.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30964302</id>
	<title>A Gun for Gun-Control Advocates</title>
	<author>Artagel</author>
	<datestamp>1264880700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I cannot imagine a use for this gun, except to require its use as a way of effectively taking away any right to a useful weapon. Step one, make the gun available. Step two, outlaw all other guns.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I can not imagine a use for this gun , except to require its use as a way of effectively taking away any right to a useful weapon .
Step one , make the gun available .
Step two , outlaw all other guns .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I cannot imagine a use for this gun, except to require its use as a way of effectively taking away any right to a useful weapon.
Step one, make the gun available.
Step two, outlaw all other guns.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30963848</id>
	<title>If you only knew...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264877820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Bad news for the citizens of New Jersey...</p><p>In NJ, you can't even get a carry permit unless you are either a retired cop, an armed security guard for someone important, or connected. It just doesn't happen for ordinary citizens. At this point, they're just beating a dead horse.</p><p>When I saw "smart gun legislation", I thought "wow, maybe they'll actually let people legally carry a gun so that they can defend themselves against people who are illegally carrying". I should have known better. This is what happens when people who don't understand the problem come up with a solution, and is basically the M.O. of everything in New Jersey.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Bad news for the citizens of New Jersey...In NJ , you ca n't even get a carry permit unless you are either a retired cop , an armed security guard for someone important , or connected .
It just does n't happen for ordinary citizens .
At this point , they 're just beating a dead horse.When I saw " smart gun legislation " , I thought " wow , maybe they 'll actually let people legally carry a gun so that they can defend themselves against people who are illegally carrying " .
I should have known better .
This is what happens when people who do n't understand the problem come up with a solution , and is basically the M.O .
of everything in New Jersey .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bad news for the citizens of New Jersey...In NJ, you can't even get a carry permit unless you are either a retired cop, an armed security guard for someone important, or connected.
It just doesn't happen for ordinary citizens.
At this point, they're just beating a dead horse.When I saw "smart gun legislation", I thought "wow, maybe they'll actually let people legally carry a gun so that they can defend themselves against people who are illegally carrying".
I should have known better.
This is what happens when people who don't understand the problem come up with a solution, and is basically the M.O.
of everything in New Jersey.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30961696</id>
	<title>When it comes down to it..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264862520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well, if your gun won't fire, I'll just have to beat you to death with it!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , if your gun wo n't fire , I 'll just have to beat you to death with it !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, if your gun won't fire, I'll just have to beat you to death with it!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30963460</id>
	<title>Re:Strange fascination</title>
	<author>wxjones</author>
	<datestamp>1264875720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Target shooting is great fun. I recommend you try it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Target shooting is great fun .
I recommend you try it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Target shooting is great fun.
I recommend you try it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30961904</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30962070</id>
	<title>Summary incorrect - they're not rubber bullets</title>
	<author>name\_already\_taken</author>
	<datestamp>1264866000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Civilians can already buy &quot;rubber bullets&quot;.  If you actually read the article and look at the pictures, you'll see that the projectiles in question are not the things usually referred to as rubber bullets.</p><p>The difference is that the rounds in the article feature projectiles that are designed to be so soft that they are unlikely to kill.  They are almost completely unlike rubber bullets.</p><p>Normal rubber bullets are exactly that - bullets made of rubber.  These are different because they are not bullet-shaped, and the rubber compound is softer.  It's more akin to the difference between being hit by a rubber ball or a wadded up ball of paper.</p><p>The plus side, for someone using the koosh-style shotgun rounds is that they're designed to be less-than-lethal, so even if you do kill someone with them, you can point to the fact that you didn't intend to kill them (otherwise you'd have been using lethal rounds) when it comes time for the wrongful death suit from the burglar's family.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Civilians can already buy " rubber bullets " .
If you actually read the article and look at the pictures , you 'll see that the projectiles in question are not the things usually referred to as rubber bullets.The difference is that the rounds in the article feature projectiles that are designed to be so soft that they are unlikely to kill .
They are almost completely unlike rubber bullets.Normal rubber bullets are exactly that - bullets made of rubber .
These are different because they are not bullet-shaped , and the rubber compound is softer .
It 's more akin to the difference between being hit by a rubber ball or a wadded up ball of paper.The plus side , for someone using the koosh-style shotgun rounds is that they 're designed to be less-than-lethal , so even if you do kill someone with them , you can point to the fact that you did n't intend to kill them ( otherwise you 'd have been using lethal rounds ) when it comes time for the wrongful death suit from the burglar 's family .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Civilians can already buy "rubber bullets".
If you actually read the article and look at the pictures, you'll see that the projectiles in question are not the things usually referred to as rubber bullets.The difference is that the rounds in the article feature projectiles that are designed to be so soft that they are unlikely to kill.
They are almost completely unlike rubber bullets.Normal rubber bullets are exactly that - bullets made of rubber.
These are different because they are not bullet-shaped, and the rubber compound is softer.
It's more akin to the difference between being hit by a rubber ball or a wadded up ball of paper.The plus side, for someone using the koosh-style shotgun rounds is that they're designed to be less-than-lethal, so even if you do kill someone with them, you can point to the fact that you didn't intend to kill them (otherwise you'd have been using lethal rounds) when it comes time for the wrongful death suit from the burglar's family.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30961650</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30962494</id>
	<title>Smart guns... Judge Dredd</title>
	<author>jgreco</author>
	<datestamp>1264869240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Am I the only one who is reminded of "Judge Dredd", with the Judges carrying smart guns that kill anyone else who pick them up?  Is that the next evolution in gun control?

I don't remember the exact wording, but I remember the scene in Dredd where Rico is being told "Don't pick that up, it's a Judge's gun!" and Rico grabs it and shoots the guy, saying, "Well, then, I must be a Judge."</htmltext>
<tokenext>Am I the only one who is reminded of " Judge Dredd " , with the Judges carrying smart guns that kill anyone else who pick them up ?
Is that the next evolution in gun control ?
I do n't remember the exact wording , but I remember the scene in Dredd where Rico is being told " Do n't pick that up , it 's a Judge 's gun !
" and Rico grabs it and shoots the guy , saying , " Well , then , I must be a Judge .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Am I the only one who is reminded of "Judge Dredd", with the Judges carrying smart guns that kill anyone else who pick them up?
Is that the next evolution in gun control?
I don't remember the exact wording, but I remember the scene in Dredd where Rico is being told "Don't pick that up, it's a Judge's gun!
" and Rico grabs it and shoots the guy, saying, "Well, then, I must be a Judge.
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30962130</id>
	<title>Another manufacturer down the drain</title>
	<author>Theodore</author>
	<datestamp>1264866420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Gun manufacturer Smith &amp; Wesson was awarded a $1.7 million federal grant last year to work on developing the technology and has spent $5 million on development since 1993."</p><p>First Colt leaves the civ market, and now S&amp;W is pulling this kinda crap?<br>So much for the americans, at least we still have Glock, SIG, and FN.</p><p>I might not have problems with it if police were also limited in the same way.<br>Once cops start dying due to this crap...<br>Oh hell, I was gonna say that the sheep might be persuaded to change their minds, but they'd probably be rallied into even greater attacks on the 2nd amendment.<br>I wonder how loud people in these states would scream if they had to get a "speedy trial permit" to have their case (of any type: traffic, criminal, civil) heard within a year, or a "free speech permit" to complain about their elected officials.</p><p>This kinda stuff brings up the same questions I have with California and cars...<br>Instead of capitulating to their demands, manufacturers should say "You want us to follow these crazy fantastical guidelines to sell IN your state?  Fine, we just won't sell TO your state... No, not even to govt. agencies.  No new parts, no spare parts, nothing."</p><p>As far as "less-lethal" rounds being available to the public...<br>OK,,, as long as AP rounds are also as freely available to the public.<br>Like someone else has said, "less-lethal" rounds will just lead to dumb-asses shooting each other for fun, they needing care for a burst kidney or spleen.</p><p>The best way to keep the people safe, is for the people to be armed, and trained in the use of weapons (not just firearms).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Gun manufacturer Smith &amp; Wesson was awarded a $ 1.7 million federal grant last year to work on developing the technology and has spent $ 5 million on development since 1993 .
" First Colt leaves the civ market , and now S&amp;W is pulling this kinda crap ? So much for the americans , at least we still have Glock , SIG , and FN.I might not have problems with it if police were also limited in the same way.Once cops start dying due to this crap...Oh hell , I was gon na say that the sheep might be persuaded to change their minds , but they 'd probably be rallied into even greater attacks on the 2nd amendment.I wonder how loud people in these states would scream if they had to get a " speedy trial permit " to have their case ( of any type : traffic , criminal , civil ) heard within a year , or a " free speech permit " to complain about their elected officials.This kinda stuff brings up the same questions I have with California and cars...Instead of capitulating to their demands , manufacturers should say " You want us to follow these crazy fantastical guidelines to sell IN your state ?
Fine , we just wo n't sell TO your state... No , not even to govt .
agencies. No new parts , no spare parts , nothing .
" As far as " less-lethal " rounds being available to the public...OK,, , as long as AP rounds are also as freely available to the public.Like someone else has said , " less-lethal " rounds will just lead to dumb-asses shooting each other for fun , they needing care for a burst kidney or spleen.The best way to keep the people safe , is for the people to be armed , and trained in the use of weapons ( not just firearms ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Gun manufacturer Smith &amp; Wesson was awarded a $1.7 million federal grant last year to work on developing the technology and has spent $5 million on development since 1993.
"First Colt leaves the civ market, and now S&amp;W is pulling this kinda crap?So much for the americans, at least we still have Glock, SIG, and FN.I might not have problems with it if police were also limited in the same way.Once cops start dying due to this crap...Oh hell, I was gonna say that the sheep might be persuaded to change their minds, but they'd probably be rallied into even greater attacks on the 2nd amendment.I wonder how loud people in these states would scream if they had to get a "speedy trial permit" to have their case (of any type: traffic, criminal, civil) heard within a year, or a "free speech permit" to complain about their elected officials.This kinda stuff brings up the same questions I have with California and cars...Instead of capitulating to their demands, manufacturers should say "You want us to follow these crazy fantastical guidelines to sell IN your state?
Fine, we just won't sell TO your state... No, not even to govt.
agencies.  No new parts, no spare parts, nothing.
"As far as "less-lethal" rounds being available to the public...OK,,, as long as AP rounds are also as freely available to the public.Like someone else has said, "less-lethal" rounds will just lead to dumb-asses shooting each other for fun, they needing care for a burst kidney or spleen.The best way to keep the people safe, is for the people to be armed, and trained in the use of weapons (not just firearms).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30962092</id>
	<title>Re:Strange fascination</title>
	<author>witch-doktor</author>
	<datestamp>1264866180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What is with you being so close minded, judgmental and groupist? Guns aren't bad and repulsive. Some people are sure, but that's hardly the guns' fault. Unless you are talking about <a href="http://www.kalispelcaseline.com/Departments/Cortona-Shotguns/The-Ugly-Gun.aspx" title="kalispelcaseline.com" rel="nofollow">this gun</a> [kalispelcaseline.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>What is with you being so close minded , judgmental and groupist ?
Guns are n't bad and repulsive .
Some people are sure , but that 's hardly the guns ' fault .
Unless you are talking about this gun [ kalispelcaseline.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What is with you being so close minded, judgmental and groupist?
Guns aren't bad and repulsive.
Some people are sure, but that's hardly the guns' fault.
Unless you are talking about this gun [kalispelcaseline.com]</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30962302</id>
	<title>For this price tag...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264867740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For this price tag it better be Rolex.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For this price tag it better be Rolex .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For this price tag it better be Rolex.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30962324</id>
	<title>Re:Civilians with rubber bullets? Cops are bad eno</title>
	<author>johnlcallaway</author>
	<datestamp>1264867920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Rubber bullets <b>sometimes</b> kill, too.</p></div><p>There<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.. fixed that for you....</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Rubber bullets sometimes kill , too.There .. fixed that for you... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Rubber bullets sometimes kill, too.There .. fixed that for you....
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30965466</id>
	<title>Handedness problem</title>
	<author>Restil</author>
	<datestamp>1264845900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm right handed.  I shoot a pistol with my right hand.  My watch is on my left wrist.  While it is advisable to use both hands when firing a gun (for stability, as well as accuracy issues), it is certainly not required.  If I understand this correctly, the gun is disarmed whenever it gets more than 20 cm away from the watch.  Which means, as soon as I drop my arm to open a door, the gun will be disarmed.  I'm assuming it doesn't get rearmed as soon as it gets back within range of the watch, as this would defeat the whole purpose of the automatic disarming feature.  If the perp gets a gun away from me and turns it on me, and we get into a struggle, it will likely get back within the 20cm range, and then be usable again.  And I certainly hope he doesn't try to steal my watch... because an armed assailant would NEVER try to do that....</p><p>-Restil</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm right handed .
I shoot a pistol with my right hand .
My watch is on my left wrist .
While it is advisable to use both hands when firing a gun ( for stability , as well as accuracy issues ) , it is certainly not required .
If I understand this correctly , the gun is disarmed whenever it gets more than 20 cm away from the watch .
Which means , as soon as I drop my arm to open a door , the gun will be disarmed .
I 'm assuming it does n't get rearmed as soon as it gets back within range of the watch , as this would defeat the whole purpose of the automatic disarming feature .
If the perp gets a gun away from me and turns it on me , and we get into a struggle , it will likely get back within the 20cm range , and then be usable again .
And I certainly hope he does n't try to steal my watch... because an armed assailant would NEVER try to do that....-Restil</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm right handed.
I shoot a pistol with my right hand.
My watch is on my left wrist.
While it is advisable to use both hands when firing a gun (for stability, as well as accuracy issues), it is certainly not required.
If I understand this correctly, the gun is disarmed whenever it gets more than 20 cm away from the watch.
Which means, as soon as I drop my arm to open a door, the gun will be disarmed.
I'm assuming it doesn't get rearmed as soon as it gets back within range of the watch, as this would defeat the whole purpose of the automatic disarming feature.
If the perp gets a gun away from me and turns it on me, and we get into a struggle, it will likely get back within the 20cm range, and then be usable again.
And I certainly hope he doesn't try to steal my watch... because an armed assailant would NEVER try to do that....-Restil</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30962260</id>
	<title>"This colossal revolver"</title>
	<author>lee n. field</author>
	<datestamp>1264867500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p> <i>Armatix will eventually offer higher caliber guns, like this colossal revolver, as well as rifles and shotguns.
</i></p></div> </blockquote><p>"This colossal revolver"  Looks about S&amp;W K-frame size to me.
</p><p>Wired goes to SHOT show.  They should play to their strengths. Don't they have a  <a href="http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Hoplophile" title="urbandictionary.com" rel="nofollow">hoplophile</a> [urbandictionary.com] on staff?</p><p>Magnum Research's <a href="http://www.magnumresearch.com/BFR.asp" title="magnumresearch.com" rel="nofollow">BFR</a> [magnumresearch.com] (official parsing is "Biggest Finest Revolver") might qualify.  </p><p>And no, an electronically disable-able gun is not a good idea.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Armatix will eventually offer higher caliber guns , like this colossal revolver , as well as rifles and shotguns .
" This colossal revolver " Looks about S&amp;W K-frame size to me .
Wired goes to SHOT show .
They should play to their strengths .
Do n't they have a hoplophile [ urbandictionary.com ] on staff ? Magnum Research 's BFR [ magnumresearch.com ] ( official parsing is " Biggest Finest Revolver " ) might qualify .
And no , an electronically disable-able gun is not a good idea .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Armatix will eventually offer higher caliber guns, like this colossal revolver, as well as rifles and shotguns.
"This colossal revolver"  Looks about S&amp;W K-frame size to me.
Wired goes to SHOT show.
They should play to their strengths.
Don't they have a  hoplophile [urbandictionary.com] on staff?Magnum Research's BFR [magnumresearch.com] (official parsing is "Biggest Finest Revolver") might qualify.
And no, an electronically disable-able gun is not a good idea.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30962460</id>
	<title>Defensive firearms must be utterly reliable</title>
	<author>peektwice</author>
	<datestamp>1264869000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Defensive firearms must be utterly reliable. This firearm, by definition, is not utterly reliable. I can see them being sued because their product didn't function at the one time it was desperately needed. I predict that it will sell a few copies, and then fizzle. However, that won't stop the anti-gun lobby and idiot Democrats from attempting to pass laws requiring that all firearms have this bug (I mean "feature).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Defensive firearms must be utterly reliable .
This firearm , by definition , is not utterly reliable .
I can see them being sued because their product did n't function at the one time it was desperately needed .
I predict that it will sell a few copies , and then fizzle .
However , that wo n't stop the anti-gun lobby and idiot Democrats from attempting to pass laws requiring that all firearms have this bug ( I mean " feature ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Defensive firearms must be utterly reliable.
This firearm, by definition, is not utterly reliable.
I can see them being sued because their product didn't function at the one time it was desperately needed.
I predict that it will sell a few copies, and then fizzle.
However, that won't stop the anti-gun lobby and idiot Democrats from attempting to pass laws requiring that all firearms have this bug (I mean "feature).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30961788</id>
	<title>World's most expensive .22</title>
	<author>HangingChad</author>
	<datestamp>1264863360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <i>The<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.22 caliber guns will go on sale in the US within months, and the initial price is 7,000 euro.</i>

</p><p>A $12,000<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.22 is a completely safe weapon because no one in their right mind would buy one.  It's useless for defense unless you're being attacked by balloons, it'll pop those.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The .22 caliber guns will go on sale in the US within months , and the initial price is 7,000 euro .
A $ 12,000 .22 is a completely safe weapon because no one in their right mind would buy one .
It 's useless for defense unless you 're being attacked by balloons , it 'll pop those .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> The .22 caliber guns will go on sale in the US within months, and the initial price is 7,000 euro.
A $12,000 .22 is a completely safe weapon because no one in their right mind would buy one.
It's useless for defense unless you're being attacked by balloons, it'll pop those.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30962006</id>
	<title>Re:Strange fascination</title>
	<author>StoatBringer</author>
	<datestamp>1264865340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't you know anything? If every citizen is not armed to the teeth, the King of England could just waltz right in, take over and make everyone his slave.</p><p>Is that what you want? 'Cos that's what'll happen!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't you know anything ?
If every citizen is not armed to the teeth , the King of England could just waltz right in , take over and make everyone his slave.Is that what you want ?
'Cos that 's what 'll happen !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't you know anything?
If every citizen is not armed to the teeth, the King of England could just waltz right in, take over and make everyone his slave.Is that what you want?
'Cos that's what'll happen!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30982814</id>
	<title>Cribster</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265046420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How about shooting the guy that's trying to disarm you instead.</p><p>I certainly would never want a gun that relies on batteries.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How about shooting the guy that 's trying to disarm you instead.I certainly would never want a gun that relies on batteries .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about shooting the guy that's trying to disarm you instead.I certainly would never want a gun that relies on batteries.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30962968</id>
	<title>Funnily Enough</title>
	<author>Greyfox</author>
	<datestamp>1264873020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I can see those being adopted most heavily in police or military situations, where some PHB is more likely to determine what kind of gun you get. I can see some upper management type in some police department somewhere thinking this is a good idea. None of the police officers I've known personally would go for it though.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I can see those being adopted most heavily in police or military situations , where some PHB is more likely to determine what kind of gun you get .
I can see some upper management type in some police department somewhere thinking this is a good idea .
None of the police officers I 've known personally would go for it though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can see those being adopted most heavily in police or military situations, where some PHB is more likely to determine what kind of gun you get.
I can see some upper management type in some police department somewhere thinking this is a good idea.
None of the police officers I've known personally would go for it though.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30961810</id>
	<title>Re:Here's an idea...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264863600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I love my Kimber as well. Low velocity bullets are perfect for home protection and less likely to travel outside your walls while the impact shock is absolutely disabling no matter where you hit the assailant.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.45 acp, gotta' love it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I love my Kimber as well .
Low velocity bullets are perfect for home protection and less likely to travel outside your walls while the impact shock is absolutely disabling no matter where you hit the assailant .
.45 acp , got ta ' love it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I love my Kimber as well.
Low velocity bullets are perfect for home protection and less likely to travel outside your walls while the impact shock is absolutely disabling no matter where you hit the assailant.
.45 acp, gotta' love it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30965570</id>
	<title>Proud of the community</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264846740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I am proud to see how many people oppose this junk. My friend as a 3 year old who has been taught that guns where not told just about the time he started to walk. Even at his age he wont touch a gun even if it is laying on an open table. They key is to not just tell them not to touch it but to show them why not to.</p><p>Also don't leave your gun(s) laying out around small children unatended, that is asking for it. Also alot of the time it's other peoples children that are not taught about gun that get them and shot themselves or there friend. So I would advise knowing your childrens friends and there parents and if they are going to be at your home unatented at anytime make sure they have knowledge of guns.</p><p>Ultimatly education is the key, your kid running around the house while brushing his teeth is just about as dangerous as him playing with a gun. You shouldn't allow either one.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am proud to see how many people oppose this junk .
My friend as a 3 year old who has been taught that guns where not told just about the time he started to walk .
Even at his age he wont touch a gun even if it is laying on an open table .
They key is to not just tell them not to touch it but to show them why not to.Also do n't leave your gun ( s ) laying out around small children unatended , that is asking for it .
Also alot of the time it 's other peoples children that are not taught about gun that get them and shot themselves or there friend .
So I would advise knowing your childrens friends and there parents and if they are going to be at your home unatented at anytime make sure they have knowledge of guns.Ultimatly education is the key , your kid running around the house while brushing his teeth is just about as dangerous as him playing with a gun .
You should n't allow either one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am proud to see how many people oppose this junk.
My friend as a 3 year old who has been taught that guns where not told just about the time he started to walk.
Even at his age he wont touch a gun even if it is laying on an open table.
They key is to not just tell them not to touch it but to show them why not to.Also don't leave your gun(s) laying out around small children unatended, that is asking for it.
Also alot of the time it's other peoples children that are not taught about gun that get them and shot themselves or there friend.
So I would advise knowing your childrens friends and there parents and if they are going to be at your home unatented at anytime make sure they have knowledge of guns.Ultimatly education is the key, your kid running around the house while brushing his teeth is just about as dangerous as him playing with a gun.
You shouldn't allow either one.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30967044</id>
	<title>Bad Math</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264859940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Your math skills are way off, 7000 Euros is 9700 Dollars... Try Google next time: "7000 EUR in USD".</p><p>Looks to me like you used British pounds, not Euros.</p><p>Oh, and I think parents who value their children might think it's worth the money. Well, rich parents anyway. Their children won't be using the gun at least.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Your math skills are way off , 7000 Euros is 9700 Dollars... Try Google next time : " 7000 EUR in USD " .Looks to me like you used British pounds , not Euros.Oh , and I think parents who value their children might think it 's worth the money .
Well , rich parents anyway .
Their children wo n't be using the gun at least .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your math skills are way off, 7000 Euros is 9700 Dollars... Try Google next time: "7000 EUR in USD".Looks to me like you used British pounds, not Euros.Oh, and I think parents who value their children might think it's worth the money.
Well, rich parents anyway.
Their children won't be using the gun at least.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30961904</id>
	<title>Strange fascination</title>
	<author>medoc</author>
	<datestamp>1264864440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What is it with you americans that you're so fascinated with this stuff? For a member of a normal civilian society in peace, these things are just bad and repulsive.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What is it with you americans that you 're so fascinated with this stuff ?
For a member of a normal civilian society in peace , these things are just bad and repulsive .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What is it with you americans that you're so fascinated with this stuff?
For a member of a normal civilian society in peace, these things are just bad and repulsive.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30962426</id>
	<title>Re:Strange fascination</title>
	<author>CrimsonAvenger</author>
	<datestamp>1264868700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>What is it with you americans that you're so fascinated with this stuff? For a member of a normal civilian society in peace, these things are just bad and repulsive.</p></div></blockquote><p>Well, frankly, it's a hell of a lot of fun to take a few targets out into the desert and spend an afternoon shooting holes in them.
</p><p>Or down to the range, if you don't have a convenient desert.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What is it with you americans that you 're so fascinated with this stuff ?
For a member of a normal civilian society in peace , these things are just bad and repulsive.Well , frankly , it 's a hell of a lot of fun to take a few targets out into the desert and spend an afternoon shooting holes in them .
Or down to the range , if you do n't have a convenient desert .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What is it with you americans that you're so fascinated with this stuff?
For a member of a normal civilian society in peace, these things are just bad and repulsive.Well, frankly, it's a hell of a lot of fun to take a few targets out into the desert and spend an afternoon shooting holes in them.
Or down to the range, if you don't have a convenient desert.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30963756</id>
	<title>Euros??</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264877340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sounds great. I'd love to buy one. Now where in the U.S. am I going to find Euros? It's not like I normally get change for my bagel in monopoly money.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sounds great .
I 'd love to buy one .
Now where in the U.S. am I going to find Euros ?
It 's not like I normally get change for my bagel in monopoly money .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sounds great.
I'd love to buy one.
Now where in the U.S. am I going to find Euros?
It's not like I normally get change for my bagel in monopoly money.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30962924</id>
	<title>Guns are equalizers</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264872540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Guns are the great equalizers: swords and arrows require a heckuva lot more practice to become proficient than guns.  It's no wonder governments are afraid of mere citizens having them.  What is surprising is the number of ordinary people who have nothing to fear from guns but a lot to fear from governments who have somehow managed to swallow the government anti-gun propaganda.  Think for yourself.</p><p>People using guns save far more lives and prevent far more crimes than do criminals using guns.  Studies show anywhere from 1.5 million (by the gun hating CDC) to 2.5 million (by a gun loving professor) crimes prevented by the use of guns, usually no more than the criminal seeing it or hearing it, seldom by actually using it.  Most gun crimes in the US are by criminals on criminals.  Cars kill far more people.</p><p>Considering there are more guns in the US than cars, 300 million of them, one per citizen, they are used incredibly safely.  Those who think guns are bad no doubt must think worse of cars.</p><p>And the most fun gun statistic in the US: if you have one neighbor with guns and one neighbor with a swimming pool, your kids are seven times as likely to die in the pool neighbor's pool than from the gun neighbor's guns.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Guns are the great equalizers : swords and arrows require a heckuva lot more practice to become proficient than guns .
It 's no wonder governments are afraid of mere citizens having them .
What is surprising is the number of ordinary people who have nothing to fear from guns but a lot to fear from governments who have somehow managed to swallow the government anti-gun propaganda .
Think for yourself.People using guns save far more lives and prevent far more crimes than do criminals using guns .
Studies show anywhere from 1.5 million ( by the gun hating CDC ) to 2.5 million ( by a gun loving professor ) crimes prevented by the use of guns , usually no more than the criminal seeing it or hearing it , seldom by actually using it .
Most gun crimes in the US are by criminals on criminals .
Cars kill far more people.Considering there are more guns in the US than cars , 300 million of them , one per citizen , they are used incredibly safely .
Those who think guns are bad no doubt must think worse of cars.And the most fun gun statistic in the US : if you have one neighbor with guns and one neighbor with a swimming pool , your kids are seven times as likely to die in the pool neighbor 's pool than from the gun neighbor 's guns .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Guns are the great equalizers: swords and arrows require a heckuva lot more practice to become proficient than guns.
It's no wonder governments are afraid of mere citizens having them.
What is surprising is the number of ordinary people who have nothing to fear from guns but a lot to fear from governments who have somehow managed to swallow the government anti-gun propaganda.
Think for yourself.People using guns save far more lives and prevent far more crimes than do criminals using guns.
Studies show anywhere from 1.5 million (by the gun hating CDC) to 2.5 million (by a gun loving professor) crimes prevented by the use of guns, usually no more than the criminal seeing it or hearing it, seldom by actually using it.
Most gun crimes in the US are by criminals on criminals.
Cars kill far more people.Considering there are more guns in the US than cars, 300 million of them, one per citizen, they are used incredibly safely.
Those who think guns are bad no doubt must think worse of cars.And the most fun gun statistic in the US: if you have one neighbor with guns and one neighbor with a swimming pool, your kids are seven times as likely to die in the pool neighbor's pool than from the gun neighbor's guns.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30961762</id>
	<title>Re:Civilians with rubber bullets? Cops are bad eno</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264863120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Look on the bright side... Eventually the number of Youtube videos containing drunk-ass morons will decrease<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Look on the bright side... Eventually the number of Youtube videos containing drunk-ass morons will decrease : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Look on the bright side... Eventually the number of Youtube videos containing drunk-ass morons will decrease :)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30962654</id>
	<title>Arm overloading.</title>
	<author>tomhath</author>
	<datestamp>1264870620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Now when you're armed you need to wear a watch on your arm to arm your arm.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now when you 're armed you need to wear a watch on your arm to arm your arm .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now when you're armed you need to wear a watch on your arm to arm your arm.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30970130</id>
	<title>Re:Strange fascination</title>
	<author>alendit</author>
	<datestamp>1264951260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yeah, you can always chant FREEDOM and get a stadion full of supporters on the other side of the ocean, no matter what your believes are. Complex problems with such a diverse views on them can rarely be solved by one word. Even if you repeat it in an infinite loop and all caps.

Don't get me wrong, over here it's the same, FREEDOM is just changed to SAFETY.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , you can always chant FREEDOM and get a stadion full of supporters on the other side of the ocean , no matter what your believes are .
Complex problems with such a diverse views on them can rarely be solved by one word .
Even if you repeat it in an infinite loop and all caps .
Do n't get me wrong , over here it 's the same , FREEDOM is just changed to SAFETY .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, you can always chant FREEDOM and get a stadion full of supporters on the other side of the ocean, no matter what your believes are.
Complex problems with such a diverse views on them can rarely be solved by one word.
Even if you repeat it in an infinite loop and all caps.
Don't get me wrong, over here it's the same, FREEDOM is just changed to SAFETY.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30963680</id>
	<title>Re:Strange fascination</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264876980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Here are things that we are fascinated by...</p><p>freedom<br>the right and ability for self defense<br>freedom<br>freedom<br>self defense<br>OH, did I mention FREEDOM?</p><p>You, wherever you are at, are not any more enlightened, civilized, or intelligent than anybody in the United States.  If you do not believe that you have an inherent right to self defense, and the right to bear arms which is part and parcel of the right to self defense then I'd say that you are less intelligent, less enlightened, and are actually an uncivilizing force in the world.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Here are things that we are fascinated by...freedomthe right and ability for self defensefreedomfreedomself defenseOH , did I mention FREEDOM ? You , wherever you are at , are not any more enlightened , civilized , or intelligent than anybody in the United States .
If you do not believe that you have an inherent right to self defense , and the right to bear arms which is part and parcel of the right to self defense then I 'd say that you are less intelligent , less enlightened , and are actually an uncivilizing force in the world .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here are things that we are fascinated by...freedomthe right and ability for self defensefreedomfreedomself defenseOH, did I mention FREEDOM?You, wherever you are at, are not any more enlightened, civilized, or intelligent than anybody in the United States.
If you do not believe that you have an inherent right to self defense, and the right to bear arms which is part and parcel of the right to self defense then I'd say that you are less intelligent, less enlightened, and are actually an uncivilizing force in the world.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30961982</id>
	<title>Re:Civilians with rubber bullets? Cops are bad eno</title>
	<author>Kozz</author>
	<datestamp>1264865220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> I also envision a slew of YouTube videos of drunk-ass morons popping their friends with these to see what it feels like.</p></div><p>This is also how I've felt about concealed carry laws... that drunk morons will hurt/kill themselves or people around them.  But when it comes right down to it, drunk morons seem perfectly capable of hurting themselves or others even without guns (of any kind).</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I also envision a slew of YouTube videos of drunk-ass morons popping their friends with these to see what it feels like.This is also how I 've felt about concealed carry laws... that drunk morons will hurt/kill themselves or people around them .
But when it comes right down to it , drunk morons seem perfectly capable of hurting themselves or others even without guns ( of any kind ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> I also envision a slew of YouTube videos of drunk-ass morons popping their friends with these to see what it feels like.This is also how I've felt about concealed carry laws... that drunk morons will hurt/kill themselves or people around them.
But when it comes right down to it, drunk morons seem perfectly capable of hurting themselves or others even without guns (of any kind).
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30968784</id>
	<title>H&amp;K hated me for so long.</title>
	<author>mrmeval</author>
	<datestamp>1264928820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why should I buy their crappy black rifle now? There are SO many. Hell S&amp;W, the darling British compan that bled itself so white less cerebrally challenged people took it over have a black rifle for under 800. That is pretty amazing since you couldn't get a screw from them for under 50 bucks.</p><p>Monster Hunter speaks<br><a href="http://larrycorreia.wordpress.com/2007/10/09/hk-because-you-suck-and-we-hate-you/" title="wordpress.com">http://larrycorreia.wordpress.com/2007/10/09/hk-because-you-suck-and-we-hate-you/</a> [wordpress.com]<br>He's pretty good and a good author. <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Monster-Hunter-International-Larry-Correia/dp/1439132852" title="amazon.com">http://www.amazon.com/Monster-Hunter-International-Larry-Correia/dp/1439132852</a> [amazon.com]</p><p>H&amp;K can bite me the same as Ruger.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why should I buy their crappy black rifle now ?
There are SO many .
Hell S&amp;W , the darling British compan that bled itself so white less cerebrally challenged people took it over have a black rifle for under 800 .
That is pretty amazing since you could n't get a screw from them for under 50 bucks.Monster Hunter speakshttp : //larrycorreia.wordpress.com/2007/10/09/hk-because-you-suck-and-we-hate-you/ [ wordpress.com ] He 's pretty good and a good author .
http : //www.amazon.com/Monster-Hunter-International-Larry-Correia/dp/1439132852 [ amazon.com ] H&amp;K can bite me the same as Ruger .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why should I buy their crappy black rifle now?
There are SO many.
Hell S&amp;W, the darling British compan that bled itself so white less cerebrally challenged people took it over have a black rifle for under 800.
That is pretty amazing since you couldn't get a screw from them for under 50 bucks.Monster Hunter speakshttp://larrycorreia.wordpress.com/2007/10/09/hk-because-you-suck-and-we-hate-you/ [wordpress.com]He's pretty good and a good author.
http://www.amazon.com/Monster-Hunter-International-Larry-Correia/dp/1439132852 [amazon.com]H&amp;K can bite me the same as Ruger.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30961758</id>
	<title>Here's an idea...</title>
	<author>wjsteele</author>
	<datestamp>1264863060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>How about pricing it in Dollars and giving the measurements in Inches.  That way us US customers (who is, after all, the apparent market) can actually buy and understand it.<br> <br>

BTW... I'll be damned if I'm going to use a gun that also makes me put on a watch.  Imaging having to deal with that in the middle of the night when someone tries to break into your house.  Let's see, can I use the watch on my left hand and have the gun in my right?  20cm... let's see... that 2.54 cm per inch, so 20 div... BAM... No, I've been shot!<br> <br>

No thanks... I'll stick with my Kimber 1911.  No measurements required and sold for US $.  And I'm pretty sure any would be attacker would notice getting hit with it.<br> <br>

Bill</htmltext>
<tokenext>How about pricing it in Dollars and giving the measurements in Inches .
That way us US customers ( who is , after all , the apparent market ) can actually buy and understand it .
BTW... I 'll be damned if I 'm going to use a gun that also makes me put on a watch .
Imaging having to deal with that in the middle of the night when someone tries to break into your house .
Let 's see , can I use the watch on my left hand and have the gun in my right ?
20cm... let 's see... that 2.54 cm per inch , so 20 div... BAM... No , I 've been shot !
No thanks... I 'll stick with my Kimber 1911 .
No measurements required and sold for US $ .
And I 'm pretty sure any would be attacker would notice getting hit with it .
Bill</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about pricing it in Dollars and giving the measurements in Inches.
That way us US customers (who is, after all, the apparent market) can actually buy and understand it.
BTW... I'll be damned if I'm going to use a gun that also makes me put on a watch.
Imaging having to deal with that in the middle of the night when someone tries to break into your house.
Let's see, can I use the watch on my left hand and have the gun in my right?
20cm... let's see... that 2.54 cm per inch, so 20 div... BAM... No, I've been shot!
No thanks... I'll stick with my Kimber 1911.
No measurements required and sold for US $.
And I'm pretty sure any would be attacker would notice getting hit with it.
Bill</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30961794</id>
	<title>With a Guarantee...</title>
	<author>flyneye</author>
	<datestamp>1264863420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>All these handicapped munitions come with a guarantee that you will have a higher chance of being killed in a confrontation.<br>Gun owners know this.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; The only sensible one is possibly the<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.22, if it is match grade. Nobody smart keeps one for self defense anyway and the safety feature will help ensure that the stupid have another layer of security against kids screwing with it that is largely taken care of with standard safety practices anyway.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>All these handicapped munitions come with a guarantee that you will have a higher chance of being killed in a confrontation.Gun owners know this .
          The only sensible one is possibly the .22 , if it is match grade .
Nobody smart keeps one for self defense anyway and the safety feature will help ensure that the stupid have another layer of security against kids screwing with it that is largely taken care of with standard safety practices anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All these handicapped munitions come with a guarantee that you will have a higher chance of being killed in a confrontation.Gun owners know this.
          The only sensible one is possibly the .22, if it is match grade.
Nobody smart keeps one for self defense anyway and the safety feature will help ensure that the stupid have another layer of security against kids screwing with it that is largely taken care of with standard safety practices anyway.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30968774</id>
	<title>If the person is disarmed</title>
	<author>mrmeval</author>
	<datestamp>1264928520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They can be beaten and maimed or killed with the brick pistol. Stabbed with a poorly sharpened thrift store knife. Doused with lighter fluid and burned. Flayed. Blinded, raped etc and etc and etc. Having that gizmo on it accomplishes nothing but 'security theater'.</p><p>You can mitigate most assaults. I've done so with pretty good voice acting skills that convinced the suspected bad guy I was not an easy target. In only a few cases have I had to do anything more. I know where everyone was around me when I am not in a protected place. I never let them get too close. I was not doing my nails, bullshitting on the phone, texting, whining on the phone to my GF/BF that my pussy/cock hurt or other Darwin award winning activities.</p><p>Why this is considered technically newsworthy is beyond me it's more of a troll. For 14,000 dollars I can buy more guns than my home town rural police department.</p><p>FWIW you can buy a rather awesome Russian target pistol for under 400 or a Beretta Neos for under 300, they quit making the 7.5 inch barrelled one. <a href="http://www.gunblast.com/Paco\_Beretta-NEOS.htm" title="gunblast.com">http://www.gunblast.com/Paco\_Beretta-NEOS.htm</a> [gunblast.com]</p><p>If you want to be good enough to carry a pistol and not be beaten to death with it train more than the cops. Read Massad Ayoob and Col. Jeff Coopers books and articles to know some of what a rational adult needs to know to carry a pistol. This is not something where a technical solution is viable unless it's something that has been beaten on for a century. Hell name me something electronic that lasts a year. I can still fire a WWII 1911A1 that has only been maintained and have it just work.</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff\_Cooper" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff\_Cooper</a> [wikipedia.org]<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massad\_Ayoob" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massad\_Ayoob</a> [wikipedia.org]</p><p>One feeble benefit of this gadget might be to keep your kid or others kids from using it. IMAO if your kid is old enough to pick it up you should have already been training them on how to use it. It is a significant right of adulthood in the United States and not teaching them is an abrogation of your duty to the. Knowing some precocious 7 year olds that gizmo would stop them for under an hour.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They can be beaten and maimed or killed with the brick pistol .
Stabbed with a poorly sharpened thrift store knife .
Doused with lighter fluid and burned .
Flayed. Blinded , raped etc and etc and etc .
Having that gizmo on it accomplishes nothing but 'security theater'.You can mitigate most assaults .
I 've done so with pretty good voice acting skills that convinced the suspected bad guy I was not an easy target .
In only a few cases have I had to do anything more .
I know where everyone was around me when I am not in a protected place .
I never let them get too close .
I was not doing my nails , bullshitting on the phone , texting , whining on the phone to my GF/BF that my pussy/cock hurt or other Darwin award winning activities.Why this is considered technically newsworthy is beyond me it 's more of a troll .
For 14,000 dollars I can buy more guns than my home town rural police department.FWIW you can buy a rather awesome Russian target pistol for under 400 or a Beretta Neos for under 300 , they quit making the 7.5 inch barrelled one .
http : //www.gunblast.com/Paco \ _Beretta-NEOS.htm [ gunblast.com ] If you want to be good enough to carry a pistol and not be beaten to death with it train more than the cops .
Read Massad Ayoob and Col. Jeff Coopers books and articles to know some of what a rational adult needs to know to carry a pistol .
This is not something where a technical solution is viable unless it 's something that has been beaten on for a century .
Hell name me something electronic that lasts a year .
I can still fire a WWII 1911A1 that has only been maintained and have it just work.http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff \ _Cooper [ wikipedia.org ] http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massad \ _Ayoob [ wikipedia.org ] One feeble benefit of this gadget might be to keep your kid or others kids from using it .
IMAO if your kid is old enough to pick it up you should have already been training them on how to use it .
It is a significant right of adulthood in the United States and not teaching them is an abrogation of your duty to the .
Knowing some precocious 7 year olds that gizmo would stop them for under an hour .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They can be beaten and maimed or killed with the brick pistol.
Stabbed with a poorly sharpened thrift store knife.
Doused with lighter fluid and burned.
Flayed. Blinded, raped etc and etc and etc.
Having that gizmo on it accomplishes nothing but 'security theater'.You can mitigate most assaults.
I've done so with pretty good voice acting skills that convinced the suspected bad guy I was not an easy target.
In only a few cases have I had to do anything more.
I know where everyone was around me when I am not in a protected place.
I never let them get too close.
I was not doing my nails, bullshitting on the phone, texting, whining on the phone to my GF/BF that my pussy/cock hurt or other Darwin award winning activities.Why this is considered technically newsworthy is beyond me it's more of a troll.
For 14,000 dollars I can buy more guns than my home town rural police department.FWIW you can buy a rather awesome Russian target pistol for under 400 or a Beretta Neos for under 300, they quit making the 7.5 inch barrelled one.
http://www.gunblast.com/Paco\_Beretta-NEOS.htm [gunblast.com]If you want to be good enough to carry a pistol and not be beaten to death with it train more than the cops.
Read Massad Ayoob and Col. Jeff Coopers books and articles to know some of what a rational adult needs to know to carry a pistol.
This is not something where a technical solution is viable unless it's something that has been beaten on for a century.
Hell name me something electronic that lasts a year.
I can still fire a WWII 1911A1 that has only been maintained and have it just work.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff\_Cooper [wikipedia.org]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massad\_Ayoob [wikipedia.org]One feeble benefit of this gadget might be to keep your kid or others kids from using it.
IMAO if your kid is old enough to pick it up you should have already been training them on how to use it.
It is a significant right of adulthood in the United States and not teaching them is an abrogation of your duty to the.
Knowing some precocious 7 year olds that gizmo would stop them for under an hour.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30962310</id>
	<title>What use is a gun that won't shoot?</title>
	<author>littlewink</author>
	<datestamp>1264867800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And a similar system has been available since the 70's: The <a href="http://www.tarnhelm.com/magna-trigger/gun/safety/magna1.html" title="tarnhelm.com" rel="nofollow">The Magna-Trigger Conversion</a> [tarnhelm.com] is a ring that activates a firearm.</p><p>Costs about $350 + $60 for each ring.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And a similar system has been available since the 70 's : The The Magna-Trigger Conversion [ tarnhelm.com ] is a ring that activates a firearm.Costs about $ 350 + $ 60 for each ring .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And a similar system has been available since the 70's: The The Magna-Trigger Conversion [tarnhelm.com] is a ring that activates a firearm.Costs about $350 + $60 for each ring.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30962076</id>
	<title>Yawn</title>
	<author>zoomshorts</author>
	<datestamp>1264866060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.smartlock.com/test-r.htm" title="smartlock.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.smartlock.com/test-r.htm</a> [smartlock.com] Terrible Karma my ass !</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.smartlock.com/test-r.htm [ smartlock.com ] Terrible Karma my ass !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.smartlock.com/test-r.htm [smartlock.com] Terrible Karma my ass !</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30962834</id>
	<title>Re:With a Guarantee...</title>
	<author>A nonymous Coward</author>
	<datestamp>1264872000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dick Heller's gun is a<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.22.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dick Heller 's gun is a .22 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dick Heller's gun is a .22.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30965646</id>
	<title>I've never met any gun owner that ....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264847400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've never met any gun owner that didn't suffer from some mental illness or other. Personally I know two. One never keeps his shootgun more than short distance from himself at all times. It is either in his car when he travels, his locker at work, or at home. He is beyond unstable and keeps his wife at such a short leash that most that borders and abuse. Aside from acute case of paranoia that his wife is cheating on him, he can't stop yapping about how Obama is the next anti-christ. Interestingly enough, in our particular county it is illegal to own firearms, even for hunting purposes. (Very urban area, one or the largest cities in the world.)</p><p>The other fellow is a former marine, former LEO, and very current hutjob. He hates Jews, Muslims, Communists, Obama, and Icelanders for some reason.  Also, he can't stop talking about all the folks he shot back Gulf War I and all the beatings he administered while he was a LEO. His gun collection rivals that of small Army bases. Aside from all that, he is a heavy drinker and suffers from variety of mental afflictions, too many to list here.</p><p>I have a felling the other 30-40+ million gun owners in North Amerca are pretty much the same.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've never met any gun owner that did n't suffer from some mental illness or other .
Personally I know two .
One never keeps his shootgun more than short distance from himself at all times .
It is either in his car when he travels , his locker at work , or at home .
He is beyond unstable and keeps his wife at such a short leash that most that borders and abuse .
Aside from acute case of paranoia that his wife is cheating on him , he ca n't stop yapping about how Obama is the next anti-christ .
Interestingly enough , in our particular county it is illegal to own firearms , even for hunting purposes .
( Very urban area , one or the largest cities in the world .
) The other fellow is a former marine , former LEO , and very current hutjob .
He hates Jews , Muslims , Communists , Obama , and Icelanders for some reason .
Also , he ca n't stop talking about all the folks he shot back Gulf War I and all the beatings he administered while he was a LEO .
His gun collection rivals that of small Army bases .
Aside from all that , he is a heavy drinker and suffers from variety of mental afflictions , too many to list here.I have a felling the other 30-40 + million gun owners in North Amerca are pretty much the same .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've never met any gun owner that didn't suffer from some mental illness or other.
Personally I know two.
One never keeps his shootgun more than short distance from himself at all times.
It is either in his car when he travels, his locker at work, or at home.
He is beyond unstable and keeps his wife at such a short leash that most that borders and abuse.
Aside from acute case of paranoia that his wife is cheating on him, he can't stop yapping about how Obama is the next anti-christ.
Interestingly enough, in our particular county it is illegal to own firearms, even for hunting purposes.
(Very urban area, one or the largest cities in the world.
)The other fellow is a former marine, former LEO, and very current hutjob.
He hates Jews, Muslims, Communists, Obama, and Icelanders for some reason.
Also, he can't stop talking about all the folks he shot back Gulf War I and all the beatings he administered while he was a LEO.
His gun collection rivals that of small Army bases.
Aside from all that, he is a heavy drinker and suffers from variety of mental afflictions, too many to list here.I have a felling the other 30-40+ million gun owners in North Amerca are pretty much the same.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30962530</id>
	<title>Gun control is never about making the world safer</title>
	<author>RogueWarrior65</author>
	<datestamp>1264869660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is a monumentally stupid idea and an even more stupid law.  No gun control legislation is ever about keeping people safe.  There are some 20,000 gun control laws on the books and none of them prevented Ft. Hood, or Columbine, or post-Katrina New Orleans.  Gun control law are always (ALWAYS) about giving some politician the ability to say "I did something.  Re-elect me."  Gun control is always about shifting power from those who have it to those who crave it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is a monumentally stupid idea and an even more stupid law .
No gun control legislation is ever about keeping people safe .
There are some 20,000 gun control laws on the books and none of them prevented Ft. Hood , or Columbine , or post-Katrina New Orleans .
Gun control law are always ( ALWAYS ) about giving some politician the ability to say " I did something .
Re-elect me .
" Gun control is always about shifting power from those who have it to those who crave it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is a monumentally stupid idea and an even more stupid law.
No gun control legislation is ever about keeping people safe.
There are some 20,000 gun control laws on the books and none of them prevented Ft. Hood, or Columbine, or post-Katrina New Orleans.
Gun control law are always (ALWAYS) about giving some politician the ability to say "I did something.
Re-elect me.
"  Gun control is always about shifting power from those who have it to those who crave it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30961676</id>
	<title>Security by Obscurity</title>
	<author>mbone</author>
	<datestamp>1264862340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In a personal defense situation, this is security by obscurity. It will only help as long as the mugger doesn't know what the little red / green  light means.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In a personal defense situation , this is security by obscurity .
It will only help as long as the mugger does n't know what the little red / green light means .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In a personal defense situation, this is security by obscurity.
It will only help as long as the mugger doesn't know what the little red / green  light means.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30963004</id>
	<title>20cm, eh?</title>
	<author>CAIMLAS</author>
	<datestamp>1264873200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Surely, at this cheap price, only thugs on the street will be buying it. Oh wait, that's over 10 times what a nice<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.22 pistol costs...</p><p>And the 20 inches: how is that going to prevent it from being used against you? If you're struggling with someone over a gun, you're in close proximity. They grab it, pull the trigger: voila, you've got a bullet in yourself - you were well within 20cm from the gun, because you were trying to grab it.</p><p>This, unlike computers, might have a total of 10 interested buyers in the US. Why would I want this hideous, crippled gun (which likely has very little attention put into the actual firearm mechanism compared to even something like an entry-level Ruger) when I can get a uh, Ruger<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.22 in the $300 ballpark?</p><p>And for self defense, how about something a little bigger than<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.22?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.22 is for gangster thugs, target practice, and shooting rodents. Anyone who would buy a sci-fi gun like that, with such poor ability, and a glowing light on it for the purpose of self-defense deserves to be killed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Surely , at this cheap price , only thugs on the street will be buying it .
Oh wait , that 's over 10 times what a nice .22 pistol costs...And the 20 inches : how is that going to prevent it from being used against you ?
If you 're struggling with someone over a gun , you 're in close proximity .
They grab it , pull the trigger : voila , you 've got a bullet in yourself - you were well within 20cm from the gun , because you were trying to grab it.This , unlike computers , might have a total of 10 interested buyers in the US .
Why would I want this hideous , crippled gun ( which likely has very little attention put into the actual firearm mechanism compared to even something like an entry-level Ruger ) when I can get a uh , Ruger .22 in the $ 300 ballpark ? And for self defense , how about something a little bigger than .22 ?
.22 is for gangster thugs , target practice , and shooting rodents .
Anyone who would buy a sci-fi gun like that , with such poor ability , and a glowing light on it for the purpose of self-defense deserves to be killed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Surely, at this cheap price, only thugs on the street will be buying it.
Oh wait, that's over 10 times what a nice .22 pistol costs...And the 20 inches: how is that going to prevent it from being used against you?
If you're struggling with someone over a gun, you're in close proximity.
They grab it, pull the trigger: voila, you've got a bullet in yourself - you were well within 20cm from the gun, because you were trying to grab it.This, unlike computers, might have a total of 10 interested buyers in the US.
Why would I want this hideous, crippled gun (which likely has very little attention put into the actual firearm mechanism compared to even something like an entry-level Ruger) when I can get a uh, Ruger .22 in the $300 ballpark?And for self defense, how about something a little bigger than .22?
.22 is for gangster thugs, target practice, and shooting rodents.
Anyone who would buy a sci-fi gun like that, with such poor ability, and a glowing light on it for the purpose of self-defense deserves to be killed.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30965152</id>
	<title>It Fails As A Weapon</title>
	<author>rally2xs</author>
	<datestamp>1264843620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One thing that a firearm absolutely must do is to go bang each time you pull the trigger.  This firearm isn't going to do that.  Either the bad guys will figure out how to jam the signal from the watch, or the user will forget the watch, or the battery will go down in the watch, or (substitute your own horror story here...)</p><p>People that rely on this gun are going to get killed when it fails to perform it's prmary function.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One thing that a firearm absolutely must do is to go bang each time you pull the trigger .
This firearm is n't going to do that .
Either the bad guys will figure out how to jam the signal from the watch , or the user will forget the watch , or the battery will go down in the watch , or ( substitute your own horror story here... ) People that rely on this gun are going to get killed when it fails to perform it 's prmary function .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One thing that a firearm absolutely must do is to go bang each time you pull the trigger.
This firearm isn't going to do that.
Either the bad guys will figure out how to jam the signal from the watch, or the user will forget the watch, or the battery will go down in the watch, or (substitute your own horror story here...)People that rely on this gun are going to get killed when it fails to perform it's prmary function.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30968514</id>
	<title>If they can take your gun...</title>
	<author>johngineer</author>
	<datestamp>1264879740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>they can take your watch too.</htmltext>
<tokenext>they can take your watch too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>they can take your watch too.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30961746</id>
	<title>Not really practical</title>
	<author>russotto</author>
	<datestamp>1264862940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Looking at their page, it looks like the gun is armed by a fingerprint sensor on the watch, and disarmed when the gun moves away from the hand or after a timeout period.  This makes the gun poor in most police and self defense scenarios; you now have to draw the weapon, and put your finger on the watch.  Holster the gun for any reason and the gun disarms.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Looking at their page , it looks like the gun is armed by a fingerprint sensor on the watch , and disarmed when the gun moves away from the hand or after a timeout period .
This makes the gun poor in most police and self defense scenarios ; you now have to draw the weapon , and put your finger on the watch .
Holster the gun for any reason and the gun disarms .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Looking at their page, it looks like the gun is armed by a fingerprint sensor on the watch, and disarmed when the gun moves away from the hand or after a timeout period.
This makes the gun poor in most police and self defense scenarios; you now have to draw the weapon, and put your finger on the watch.
Holster the gun for any reason and the gun disarms.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30961490</id>
	<title>Wait hold on mugger...</title>
	<author>Shikaku</author>
	<datestamp>1264860180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I gotta enter the pin so that I can use my gun to defend myself.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I got ta enter the pin so that I can use my gun to defend myself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I gotta enter the pin so that I can use my gun to defend myself.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30965106</id>
	<title>DRM for guns, eh?</title>
	<author>Toze</author>
	<datestamp>1264843260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Has anyone else noticed the similarity in effect between this and DRM on, say, ebooks? "You can use this, but only if you have the right key. And someone else can turn it off if they're clever. And there's versions out there that work far better without demanding this rigamarole." Gun control seems to share a lot of qualities with DRM, now that I think about it. Trigger locks to stop you or anyone else from using the gun without entering a key, Gun cabinets to stop you or anyone else from accessing a gun without a key, storing your gun and your ammo in separate containers so that you can't use it at your convenience, needing permission to acquire a gun, having licenses to use your guns in certain ways but not others, having a list of your guns kept with a central authority and it being illegal to own a gun off the list, needing permission to transport your gun from one area of use to another, not being allowed to carry the gun around so you can use it when there's an immediate need... It's all about making it harder to use, to make someone else feel safer.</p><p>
DRM is gun control for software. Gun control is DRM for hardware.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Has anyone else noticed the similarity in effect between this and DRM on , say , ebooks ?
" You can use this , but only if you have the right key .
And someone else can turn it off if they 're clever .
And there 's versions out there that work far better without demanding this rigamarole .
" Gun control seems to share a lot of qualities with DRM , now that I think about it .
Trigger locks to stop you or anyone else from using the gun without entering a key , Gun cabinets to stop you or anyone else from accessing a gun without a key , storing your gun and your ammo in separate containers so that you ca n't use it at your convenience , needing permission to acquire a gun , having licenses to use your guns in certain ways but not others , having a list of your guns kept with a central authority and it being illegal to own a gun off the list , needing permission to transport your gun from one area of use to another , not being allowed to carry the gun around so you can use it when there 's an immediate need... It 's all about making it harder to use , to make someone else feel safer .
DRM is gun control for software .
Gun control is DRM for hardware .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Has anyone else noticed the similarity in effect between this and DRM on, say, ebooks?
"You can use this, but only if you have the right key.
And someone else can turn it off if they're clever.
And there's versions out there that work far better without demanding this rigamarole.
" Gun control seems to share a lot of qualities with DRM, now that I think about it.
Trigger locks to stop you or anyone else from using the gun without entering a key, Gun cabinets to stop you or anyone else from accessing a gun without a key, storing your gun and your ammo in separate containers so that you can't use it at your convenience, needing permission to acquire a gun, having licenses to use your guns in certain ways but not others, having a list of your guns kept with a central authority and it being illegal to own a gun off the list, needing permission to transport your gun from one area of use to another, not being allowed to carry the gun around so you can use it when there's an immediate need... It's all about making it harder to use, to make someone else feel safer.
DRM is gun control for software.
Gun control is DRM for hardware.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30963400</id>
	<title>OP has the facts wrong.</title>
	<author>fhage</author>
	<datestamp>1264875420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The makers says it uses fingerprints to activate the watch.<p><div class="quote"><p>The Armatix SmartGun concept consits of a weapon that requires locking, a biometric radio wrist watch and a system programming device. Each authorized person wears a radio wrist watch giving them access to the programmed weapon. To activate the wrist watch, the authorized person's fingerprint must first be read by the wrist watch. An internal database compares the current fingerprint against stored prints and responds accordingly. The wrist watch is then activated for a definable period - e.g. an officer's work shift or until manually deactivated.</p></div><p>They do not appear to be  marketing these to civilians.  They look like they are trying to provide a solution to the risk that a police officer might have his weapon taken in crowd control situations.
Perhaps the risk of having the police officer disarmed is greater then the risk of tech failure. The company makes gun locks.  This is just another lock.
</p><p> Is a holster snap adequate security for a loaded weapon when mingling in a crowd?  Perhaps this tech provides an alternative to <b>not</b> carry a gun because of this risk.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The makers says it uses fingerprints to activate the watch.The Armatix SmartGun concept consits of a weapon that requires locking , a biometric radio wrist watch and a system programming device .
Each authorized person wears a radio wrist watch giving them access to the programmed weapon .
To activate the wrist watch , the authorized person 's fingerprint must first be read by the wrist watch .
An internal database compares the current fingerprint against stored prints and responds accordingly .
The wrist watch is then activated for a definable period - e.g .
an officer 's work shift or until manually deactivated.They do not appear to be marketing these to civilians .
They look like they are trying to provide a solution to the risk that a police officer might have his weapon taken in crowd control situations .
Perhaps the risk of having the police officer disarmed is greater then the risk of tech failure .
The company makes gun locks .
This is just another lock .
Is a holster snap adequate security for a loaded weapon when mingling in a crowd ?
Perhaps this tech provides an alternative to not carry a gun because of this risk .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The makers says it uses fingerprints to activate the watch.The Armatix SmartGun concept consits of a weapon that requires locking, a biometric radio wrist watch and a system programming device.
Each authorized person wears a radio wrist watch giving them access to the programmed weapon.
To activate the wrist watch, the authorized person's fingerprint must first be read by the wrist watch.
An internal database compares the current fingerprint against stored prints and responds accordingly.
The wrist watch is then activated for a definable period - e.g.
an officer's work shift or until manually deactivated.They do not appear to be  marketing these to civilians.
They look like they are trying to provide a solution to the risk that a police officer might have his weapon taken in crowd control situations.
Perhaps the risk of having the police officer disarmed is greater then the risk of tech failure.
The company makes gun locks.
This is just another lock.
Is a holster snap adequate security for a loaded weapon when mingling in a crowd?
Perhaps this tech provides an alternative to not carry a gun because of this risk.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30962380</id>
	<title>Pff, that can only stop pussies!</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1264868340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Real men walk up to the cop/soldier, flip his gun upwards under his chin, and push his own finger against the trigger, and blow their head off in the blink of an eye! Just like Riddick in Return to Butcher Bay / that Dark Athena extension.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;) (Really fun game btw! Best movie adaptation ever!)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Real men walk up to the cop/soldier , flip his gun upwards under his chin , and push his own finger against the trigger , and blow their head off in the blink of an eye !
Just like Riddick in Return to Butcher Bay / that Dark Athena extension .
; ) ( Really fun game btw !
Best movie adaptation ever !
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Real men walk up to the cop/soldier, flip his gun upwards under his chin, and push his own finger against the trigger, and blow their head off in the blink of an eye!
Just like Riddick in Return to Butcher Bay / that Dark Athena extension.
;) (Really fun game btw!
Best movie adaptation ever!
)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30969106</id>
	<title>Van Vogt Gets It Right</title>
	<author>Dean Edmonds</author>
	<datestamp>1264935780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sounds like something out of Van Vogt's "The Weapon Shops of Isher".</p><p>Mind you, the thief can just take your watch, too, so there's still a ways to go.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sounds like something out of Van Vogt 's " The Weapon Shops of Isher " .Mind you , the thief can just take your watch , too , so there 's still a ways to go .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sounds like something out of Van Vogt's "The Weapon Shops of Isher".Mind you, the thief can just take your watch, too, so there's still a ways to go.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30976680</id>
	<title>Re:Strange fascination</title>
	<author>trawg</author>
	<datestamp>1264952160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The ability to own a gun doesn't magically equal freedom though. Surely you realise how many of your rights have been eroded over the last few years, especially since September 11?</p><p>You're getting less and less free every day. Things like ACTA, warrantless wiretapping - all those little things are your freedoms circling the drain. Clutching on to your firearm and whispering about freedom is utterly meaningless while that is happening.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The ability to own a gun does n't magically equal freedom though .
Surely you realise how many of your rights have been eroded over the last few years , especially since September 11 ? You 're getting less and less free every day .
Things like ACTA , warrantless wiretapping - all those little things are your freedoms circling the drain .
Clutching on to your firearm and whispering about freedom is utterly meaningless while that is happening .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The ability to own a gun doesn't magically equal freedom though.
Surely you realise how many of your rights have been eroded over the last few years, especially since September 11?You're getting less and less free every day.
Things like ACTA, warrantless wiretapping - all those little things are your freedoms circling the drain.
Clutching on to your firearm and whispering about freedom is utterly meaningless while that is happening.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30963680</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30969442</id>
	<title>Re:Here's an idea...</title>
	<author>wjsteele</author>
	<datestamp>1264942020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>In a life or death situation, I'll be grabbing for Kimber, thank you.<br> <br>Bill</htmltext>
<tokenext>In a life or death situation , I 'll be grabbing for Kimber , thank you .
Bill</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In a life or death situation, I'll be grabbing for Kimber, thank you.
Bill</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30961920</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30963000</id>
	<title>Black Koch Rifle</title>
	<author>murpium</author>
	<datestamp>1264873200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Are the rumors about it true?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Are the rumors about it true ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are the rumors about it true?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30964240</id>
	<title>Re:Strange fascination</title>
	<author>pitje</author>
	<datestamp>1264880160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>hmmmm.... I don't think I want the American version of Freedom, then.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>hmmmm.... I do n't think I want the American version of Freedom , then .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>hmmmm.... I don't think I want the American version of Freedom, then.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30963680</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30973856</id>
	<title>Yet another bad idea the market will kill</title>
	<author>ALeader71</author>
	<datestamp>1264933260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Anyone buying a pistol for personal defense will likely forget to enter the PIN for the following reasons:<br>
1. Most businesses don't allow open carry<br>
2. How many times have you set down your keys or cell phone and forgot where they were?<br>
3. Who uses a figgin<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.22 for self defense?</p><p>As for the rest of the article.  Rubber bullets = lawsuits.  Better to kill than to maim.  Beanbag rounds have similar issues.  It looks cool on TV, but in reality it's something else.</p><p>"This injury has permanently destoryed my quality of life!"  That's someting a defendant never wants to hear in a civil case.</p><p>Three shot Tasers?  I've talked to guys who went through Taser training.  None of them said being hit by a Taser dissuaded them from using one.  In fact, it encoruages Taser for two reasons: Tasers are non-lethal, and they hurt like hell.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Anyone buying a pistol for personal defense will likely forget to enter the PIN for the following reasons : 1 .
Most businesses do n't allow open carry 2 .
How many times have you set down your keys or cell phone and forgot where they were ?
3. Who uses a figgin .22 for self defense ? As for the rest of the article .
Rubber bullets = lawsuits .
Better to kill than to maim .
Beanbag rounds have similar issues .
It looks cool on TV , but in reality it 's something else .
" This injury has permanently destoryed my quality of life !
" That 's someting a defendant never wants to hear in a civil case.Three shot Tasers ?
I 've talked to guys who went through Taser training .
None of them said being hit by a Taser dissuaded them from using one .
In fact , it encoruages Taser for two reasons : Tasers are non-lethal , and they hurt like hell .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anyone buying a pistol for personal defense will likely forget to enter the PIN for the following reasons:
1.
Most businesses don't allow open carry
2.
How many times have you set down your keys or cell phone and forgot where they were?
3. Who uses a figgin .22 for self defense?As for the rest of the article.
Rubber bullets = lawsuits.
Better to kill than to maim.
Beanbag rounds have similar issues.
It looks cool on TV, but in reality it's something else.
"This injury has permanently destoryed my quality of life!
"  That's someting a defendant never wants to hear in a civil case.Three shot Tasers?
I've talked to guys who went through Taser training.
None of them said being hit by a Taser dissuaded them from using one.
In fact, it encoruages Taser for two reasons: Tasers are non-lethal, and they hurt like hell.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30964874</id>
	<title>Re:Strange fascination</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264884900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>1 - This is a gun from Europe.<br>
2 - It is mentioned in this forum not because it is a firearm, but because it contains technology.<br>
3 - In the US, the highest law of the land explicitly confirms our right to own and carry firearms.  With all due respect, who the fuck are you to judge?<br>
4 - For a normal civilian society in peace, the right to self-defense is sacred.  Attempts to ban the means to do so are just bad and repulsive.<br>
5 - Oh, and I think the Swiss would also like a word with you - funny how the gun banners like to forget about a modern European state  magically experiencing gun ownership, peace, and a low crime rate simultaneously.</htmltext>
<tokenext>1 - This is a gun from Europe .
2 - It is mentioned in this forum not because it is a firearm , but because it contains technology .
3 - In the US , the highest law of the land explicitly confirms our right to own and carry firearms .
With all due respect , who the fuck are you to judge ?
4 - For a normal civilian society in peace , the right to self-defense is sacred .
Attempts to ban the means to do so are just bad and repulsive .
5 - Oh , and I think the Swiss would also like a word with you - funny how the gun banners like to forget about a modern European state magically experiencing gun ownership , peace , and a low crime rate simultaneously .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1 - This is a gun from Europe.
2 - It is mentioned in this forum not because it is a firearm, but because it contains technology.
3 - In the US, the highest law of the land explicitly confirms our right to own and carry firearms.
With all due respect, who the fuck are you to judge?
4 - For a normal civilian society in peace, the right to self-defense is sacred.
Attempts to ban the means to do so are just bad and repulsive.
5 - Oh, and I think the Swiss would also like a word with you - funny how the gun banners like to forget about a modern European state  magically experiencing gun ownership, peace, and a low crime rate simultaneously.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30961904</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30963830</id>
	<title>Re:Strange fascination</title>
	<author>dupup</author>
	<datestamp>1264877760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sigh, I wonder about this, too.  For whatever reason, our country seems to be a more violent place to live than some others.  A friend of mine was attacked in her home, had her throat slit, and her house set on fire with her still in it.  She managed to crawl out and go for help, but it was a near thing.  Does that happen where you live?  I have a permit to carry a concealed weapon and I am grateful to have it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sigh , I wonder about this , too .
For whatever reason , our country seems to be a more violent place to live than some others .
A friend of mine was attacked in her home , had her throat slit , and her house set on fire with her still in it .
She managed to crawl out and go for help , but it was a near thing .
Does that happen where you live ?
I have a permit to carry a concealed weapon and I am grateful to have it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sigh, I wonder about this, too.
For whatever reason, our country seems to be a more violent place to live than some others.
A friend of mine was attacked in her home, had her throat slit, and her house set on fire with her still in it.
She managed to crawl out and go for help, but it was a near thing.
Does that happen where you live?
I have a permit to carry a concealed weapon and I am grateful to have it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30961904</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30968858</id>
	<title>Re:World's most expensive .22</title>
	<author>91degrees</author>
	<datestamp>1264930260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I want to know who all these people are who consider being shot with a<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.22 round to be something to brush off.  It's still a lethal bullet.  It will go straight through you at 100 yards.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I want to know who all these people are who consider being shot with a .22 round to be something to brush off .
It 's still a lethal bullet .
It will go straight through you at 100 yards .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I want to know who all these people are who consider being shot with a .22 round to be something to brush off.
It's still a lethal bullet.
It will go straight through you at 100 yards.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Civilians with rubber bullets?  Cops are bad enoug</title>
	<author>bsDaemon</author>
	<datestamp>1264862100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Rubber bullets kill, too.  In fact, cops shouldn't even be allowed to have them because the perception that they are "non-leathal" just encourages their use -- just like the beanbag rounds.  There have been cases where the beanbags come out flat with the edges parallel to the ground, sort of like a frisbee and that the impact at that angle caused severe lacerations.  People have died from those, too.<br><br>I'm not anti-gun -- I have many myself.  I grew up around them, and I am completely comfortable with them.  I also know that if I point a loaded gun with real bullets at a person, I better be absolutely willing to kill them when I pull the trigger.  Cops and soldiers are trained to know this, too.  But they seem to be more than willing to pop off rubber bullets and beanbags for "crowd control," and death has been a consequence a higher-than-zero number of times.<br><br>The last thing we need is Joe Bob getting ahold of them and shooting at cats, neighbours, or even robbers.  You know all those times that burglars have sued property owners over getting hurt while they're there to rob them?  Imagine the lawsuits over "he shot me with a rubber bullet, broke my rib, punctured my lung and now just look at me!"  I also envision a slew of YouTube videos of drunk-ass morons popping their friends with these to see what it feels like.<br><br>In short, this is pretty much the worst idea ever made.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Rubber bullets kill , too .
In fact , cops should n't even be allowed to have them because the perception that they are " non-leathal " just encourages their use -- just like the beanbag rounds .
There have been cases where the beanbags come out flat with the edges parallel to the ground , sort of like a frisbee and that the impact at that angle caused severe lacerations .
People have died from those , too.I 'm not anti-gun -- I have many myself .
I grew up around them , and I am completely comfortable with them .
I also know that if I point a loaded gun with real bullets at a person , I better be absolutely willing to kill them when I pull the trigger .
Cops and soldiers are trained to know this , too .
But they seem to be more than willing to pop off rubber bullets and beanbags for " crowd control , " and death has been a consequence a higher-than-zero number of times.The last thing we need is Joe Bob getting ahold of them and shooting at cats , neighbours , or even robbers .
You know all those times that burglars have sued property owners over getting hurt while they 're there to rob them ?
Imagine the lawsuits over " he shot me with a rubber bullet , broke my rib , punctured my lung and now just look at me !
" I also envision a slew of YouTube videos of drunk-ass morons popping their friends with these to see what it feels like.In short , this is pretty much the worst idea ever made .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Rubber bullets kill, too.
In fact, cops shouldn't even be allowed to have them because the perception that they are "non-leathal" just encourages their use -- just like the beanbag rounds.
There have been cases where the beanbags come out flat with the edges parallel to the ground, sort of like a frisbee and that the impact at that angle caused severe lacerations.
People have died from those, too.I'm not anti-gun -- I have many myself.
I grew up around them, and I am completely comfortable with them.
I also know that if I point a loaded gun with real bullets at a person, I better be absolutely willing to kill them when I pull the trigger.
Cops and soldiers are trained to know this, too.
But they seem to be more than willing to pop off rubber bullets and beanbags for "crowd control," and death has been a consequence a higher-than-zero number of times.The last thing we need is Joe Bob getting ahold of them and shooting at cats, neighbours, or even robbers.
You know all those times that burglars have sued property owners over getting hurt while they're there to rob them?
Imagine the lawsuits over "he shot me with a rubber bullet, broke my rib, punctured my lung and now just look at me!
"  I also envision a slew of YouTube videos of drunk-ass morons popping their friends with these to see what it feels like.In short, this is pretty much the worst idea ever made.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30962264</id>
	<title>Re:Strange fascination</title>
	<author>dunkelfalke</author>
	<datestamp>1264867500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oh, firearms by themselves are fun, as is shooting. But if you need to be heavily armed for self defence, then there is something very wrong with the society you live in.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh , firearms by themselves are fun , as is shooting .
But if you need to be heavily armed for self defence , then there is something very wrong with the society you live in .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh, firearms by themselves are fun, as is shooting.
But if you need to be heavily armed for self defence, then there is something very wrong with the society you live in.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30964664</id>
	<title>20 cm isn't much</title>
	<author>PPH</author>
	<datestamp>1264883520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If I swing my watch arm away during the course of a day, I've just disabled my weapon. Now, if I need to use it (in a hurry for self defense) I've got to re-enter the PIN? Here's a suggestion for a modification: embed a second ID chip in the holster. That will keep the weapon enabled while its holstered until I reach for it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If I swing my watch arm away during the course of a day , I 've just disabled my weapon .
Now , if I need to use it ( in a hurry for self defense ) I 've got to re-enter the PIN ?
Here 's a suggestion for a modification : embed a second ID chip in the holster .
That will keep the weapon enabled while its holstered until I reach for it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If I swing my watch arm away during the course of a day, I've just disabled my weapon.
Now, if I need to use it (in a hurry for self defense) I've got to re-enter the PIN?
Here's a suggestion for a modification: embed a second ID chip in the holster.
That will keep the weapon enabled while its holstered until I reach for it.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Forward-Backward Pistol</title>
	<author>rdmiller3</author>
	<datestamp>1264871820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There is already an existing, better idea.  I don't remember exactly where I saw it, but I think it was in a "Get Smart" episode or movie.</p><p>The forward-backward pistol looks like an ordinary pistol but it can fire either towards the front or towards the rear, depending upon which way the user pushes the trigger.</p><p>The trick is that it's counter-intuitive.</p><p>To fire forwards, you have to get your finger <em>behind</em> the trigger and push it forward.  If you pull the trigger backward toward yourself, you shoot yourself.</p><p>Although it was hilarious seeing this pistol's peculiarity in a comedy sitcom, I admit that it may not be so hilarious from the viewpoint of a user under stress.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There is already an existing , better idea .
I do n't remember exactly where I saw it , but I think it was in a " Get Smart " episode or movie.The forward-backward pistol looks like an ordinary pistol but it can fire either towards the front or towards the rear , depending upon which way the user pushes the trigger.The trick is that it 's counter-intuitive.To fire forwards , you have to get your finger behind the trigger and push it forward .
If you pull the trigger backward toward yourself , you shoot yourself.Although it was hilarious seeing this pistol 's peculiarity in a comedy sitcom , I admit that it may not be so hilarious from the viewpoint of a user under stress .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is already an existing, better idea.
I don't remember exactly where I saw it, but I think it was in a "Get Smart" episode or movie.The forward-backward pistol looks like an ordinary pistol but it can fire either towards the front or towards the rear, depending upon which way the user pushes the trigger.The trick is that it's counter-intuitive.To fire forwards, you have to get your finger behind the trigger and push it forward.
If you pull the trigger backward toward yourself, you shoot yourself.Although it was hilarious seeing this pistol's peculiarity in a comedy sitcom, I admit that it may not be so hilarious from the viewpoint of a user under stress.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30962354</id>
	<title>Nothing beats common sense firearm safety...</title>
	<author>suprcvic</author>
	<datestamp>1264868160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>...Nothing!  This firearm is a dead father waiting to happen.  If you can't properly secure your firearm WITHOUT something like this, you shouldn't be handling a firearm.</htmltext>
<tokenext>...Nothing !
This firearm is a dead father waiting to happen .
If you ca n't properly secure your firearm WITHOUT something like this , you should n't be handling a firearm .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...Nothing!
This firearm is a dead father waiting to happen.
If you can't properly secure your firearm WITHOUT something like this, you shouldn't be handling a firearm.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_30_0137220.30963300</id>
	<title>Hey funboys, get a room</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264874940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Great, a gun that won't work when you really need it..  Not to mention that<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.22 is mostly used for target shooting and not defense.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Great , a gun that wo n't work when you really need it.. Not to mention that .22 is mostly used for target shooting and not defense .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Great, a gun that won't work when you really need it..  Not to mention that .22 is mostly used for target shooting and not defense.</sentencetext>
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