<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_01_29_0323200</id>
	<title>Freeciv As Benchmark of HTML5 Canvas Javascript Performance</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1264784340000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="http://andrearoatstud.ntnu.no/" rel="nofollow">Andreas(R)</a> writes <i>"The <a href="http://www.freeciv.net/">Freeciv.net crew</a> has <a href="http://code.google.com/p/freeciv-forever/wiki/FreecivBenchmarkResults">benchmarked their web client</a>, which is a rich web application using the HTML5 canvas element. This shows how fast Firefox, Google Chrome, Safari and Internet Explorer perform using the latest HTML5 web standards."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>Andreas ( R ) writes " The Freeciv.net crew has benchmarked their web client , which is a rich web application using the HTML5 canvas element .
This shows how fast Firefox , Google Chrome , Safari and Internet Explorer perform using the latest HTML5 web standards .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Andreas(R) writes "The Freeciv.net crew has benchmarked their web client, which is a rich web application using the HTML5 canvas element.
This shows how fast Firefox, Google Chrome, Safari and Internet Explorer perform using the latest HTML5 web standards.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30946816</id>
	<title>Re:bias</title>
	<author>LingNoi</author>
	<datestamp>1264798140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It could be for lots of reasons. Two in particular are:</p><p>1 - Most distribution maintainers compile their packages with the -O2 option instead of -O3 for debugging purposes.<br>2 - The windows builds might have "profile guided optimization" enabled. Again something typically not done on the standard distributions.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It could be for lots of reasons .
Two in particular are : 1 - Most distribution maintainers compile their packages with the -O2 option instead of -O3 for debugging purposes.2 - The windows builds might have " profile guided optimization " enabled .
Again something typically not done on the standard distributions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It could be for lots of reasons.
Two in particular are:1 - Most distribution maintainers compile their packages with the -O2 option instead of -O3 for debugging purposes.2 - The windows builds might have "profile guided optimization" enabled.
Again something typically not done on the standard distributions.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30949002</id>
	<title>Re:Drop IE8</title>
	<author>tepples</author>
	<datestamp>1264778880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>NTLM/windows domain authentication - single sign-on.</p> </div><p>Have your users run IE 8 (not 6) through an HTTP proxy that has access only to these sites, and have them run Chrome or Firefox for everything else.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>NTLM/windows domain authentication - single sign-on .
Have your users run IE 8 ( not 6 ) through an HTTP proxy that has access only to these sites , and have them run Chrome or Firefox for everything else .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>NTLM/windows domain authentication - single sign-on.
Have your users run IE 8 (not 6) through an HTTP proxy that has access only to these sites, and have them run Chrome or Firefox for everything else.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30945840</id>
	<title>Drop IE8</title>
	<author>0100010001010011</author>
	<datestamp>1264702140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>IE8 isn't the dominant IE browser yet. Drop IE8 support and offer the IE6/IE7 users a chance to go to another browser. If they have to get used to a new 'look' anyway, what's the difference between IE6-&gt;Chrome vs IE6-&gt;IE8?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>IE8 is n't the dominant IE browser yet .
Drop IE8 support and offer the IE6/IE7 users a chance to go to another browser .
If they have to get used to a new 'look ' anyway , what 's the difference between IE6- &gt; Chrome vs IE6- &gt; IE8 ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>IE8 isn't the dominant IE browser yet.
Drop IE8 support and offer the IE6/IE7 users a chance to go to another browser.
If they have to get used to a new 'look' anyway, what's the difference between IE6-&gt;Chrome vs IE6-&gt;IE8?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30947474</id>
	<title>Re:Not fast</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264764000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The chief thinking behind Java was to sell Sun's hardware, meaning to run user's applications slower and to create all kinds of bottlenecks that only a new and better Sun's 'mainframe machine' could possibly fix.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The chief thinking behind Java was to sell Sun 's hardware , meaning to run user 's applications slower and to create all kinds of bottlenecks that only a new and better Sun 's 'mainframe machine ' could possibly fix .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The chief thinking behind Java was to sell Sun's hardware, meaning to run user's applications slower and to create all kinds of bottlenecks that only a new and better Sun's 'mainframe machine' could possibly fix.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30948234</id>
	<title>Re:bias - bias indeed</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264773780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; Linux outperformed by windows Vista! or "Vista fastest web operating system!"</p><p>Not quite. It was actually "old, much slower version of Firefox running on Linux outperformed by newer Firefox version running on windows Vista!"</p><p>Note how they studiously avoid comparing Firefox 3.6 or 3.7a on Linux versus Firefox 3.6 or 3.7a on Vista.</p><p>What gives with that, anyway?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; Linux outperformed by windows Vista !
or " Vista fastest web operating system !
" Not quite .
It was actually " old , much slower version of Firefox running on Linux outperformed by newer Firefox version running on windows Vista !
" Note how they studiously avoid comparing Firefox 3.6 or 3.7a on Linux versus Firefox 3.6 or 3.7a on Vista.What gives with that , anyway ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; Linux outperformed by windows Vista!
or "Vista fastest web operating system!
"Not quite.
It was actually "old, much slower version of Firefox running on Linux outperformed by newer Firefox version running on windows Vista!
"Note how they studiously avoid comparing Firefox 3.6 or 3.7a on Linux versus Firefox 3.6 or 3.7a on Vista.What gives with that, anyway?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30958244</id>
	<title>Re:FreeCiv vs Civ4</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264775820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As far as gameplay mechanics go, FreeCiv seems to be pretty adaptable.  It's got its own default ruleset, but you can tell it to emulate Civ1 or Civ2.  I think I prefer Civ4, for the inclusion of religion and the simplified trade system, but it's a pretty narrow gap.  They're probably working on implementing the Civ4 ruleset in FreeCiv, too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As far as gameplay mechanics go , FreeCiv seems to be pretty adaptable .
It 's got its own default ruleset , but you can tell it to emulate Civ1 or Civ2 .
I think I prefer Civ4 , for the inclusion of religion and the simplified trade system , but it 's a pretty narrow gap .
They 're probably working on implementing the Civ4 ruleset in FreeCiv , too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As far as gameplay mechanics go, FreeCiv seems to be pretty adaptable.
It's got its own default ruleset, but you can tell it to emulate Civ1 or Civ2.
I think I prefer Civ4, for the inclusion of religion and the simplified trade system, but it's a pretty narrow gap.
They're probably working on implementing the Civ4 ruleset in FreeCiv, too.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30946506</id>
	<title>Re:Not fast</title>
	<author>onefriedrice</author>
	<datestamp>1264708620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Computer processing speed has increased well over an hundredfold over the past decades; so what do we do with all the extra power?  We rewrite games we  played many years ago on top of so many layers of abstraction that they're no longer playable, even on our modern hardware.  Hurray for progress.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Computer processing speed has increased well over an hundredfold over the past decades ; so what do we do with all the extra power ?
We rewrite games we played many years ago on top of so many layers of abstraction that they 're no longer playable , even on our modern hardware .
Hurray for progress .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Computer processing speed has increased well over an hundredfold over the past decades; so what do we do with all the extra power?
We rewrite games we  played many years ago on top of so many layers of abstraction that they're no longer playable, even on our modern hardware.
Hurray for progress.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30945930</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30946542</id>
	<title>Re:Drop IE8</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264795440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>NTLM/windows domain authentication - single sign-on.
<p>
I haven't seen an alternative browser that it works reliably on yet.  Yes, its a windows specific thing, but until other browsers properly support single sign on you're not going to get them into the corporate workplace in any fully supported manner.  And if they're not at work, they're less likely to end up getting installed at home, either.
</p><p>
I mean, i'm an admin and run plenty of different browsers, but from a "please why won't the users leave me alone" perspective, properly patched IE plus any half competent malware protection (corporate firewall, managed AV solution, etc) IE on the corporate desktop wins.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>NTLM/windows domain authentication - single sign-on .
I have n't seen an alternative browser that it works reliably on yet .
Yes , its a windows specific thing , but until other browsers properly support single sign on you 're not going to get them into the corporate workplace in any fully supported manner .
And if they 're not at work , they 're less likely to end up getting installed at home , either .
I mean , i 'm an admin and run plenty of different browsers , but from a " please why wo n't the users leave me alone " perspective , properly patched IE plus any half competent malware protection ( corporate firewall , managed AV solution , etc ) IE on the corporate desktop wins .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>NTLM/windows domain authentication - single sign-on.
I haven't seen an alternative browser that it works reliably on yet.
Yes, its a windows specific thing, but until other browsers properly support single sign on you're not going to get them into the corporate workplace in any fully supported manner.
And if they're not at work, they're less likely to end up getting installed at home, either.
I mean, i'm an admin and run plenty of different browsers, but from a "please why won't the users leave me alone" perspective, properly patched IE plus any half competent malware protection (corporate firewall, managed AV solution, etc) IE on the corporate desktop wins.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30945840</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30951832</id>
	<title>Re:what the fuck?</title>
	<author>clone53421</author>
	<datestamp>1264789740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>AdBlock Plus:</p><p><tt>slashdot.org##span.share</tt></p></htmltext>
<tokenext>AdBlock Plus : slashdot.org # # span.share</tokentext>
<sentencetext>AdBlock Plus:slashdot.org##span.share</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30960444</id>
	<title>Re:Drop IE8</title>
	<author>smash</author>
	<datestamp>1264843080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Aaand... one more reason not to go that route...
<p>
Rolling out/upgrading chrome/firefox on a corporate network in a controlled manner is a pain in the arse.
</p><p>
I rolled out IE8 the other day with a few clicks in WSUS.  I know exactly what patch level all the machines are on, which ones are still yet to be fired up and update, etc.
</p><p>
Trying to do that with Firefox/Chrome without a bunch of scripting and/or tools we don't already have (eg, WSUS)?  I'd still be at it next month.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Aaand... one more reason not to go that route.. . Rolling out/upgrading chrome/firefox on a corporate network in a controlled manner is a pain in the arse .
I rolled out IE8 the other day with a few clicks in WSUS .
I know exactly what patch level all the machines are on , which ones are still yet to be fired up and update , etc .
Trying to do that with Firefox/Chrome without a bunch of scripting and/or tools we do n't already have ( eg , WSUS ) ?
I 'd still be at it next month .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Aaand... one more reason not to go that route...

Rolling out/upgrading chrome/firefox on a corporate network in a controlled manner is a pain in the arse.
I rolled out IE8 the other day with a few clicks in WSUS.
I know exactly what patch level all the machines are on, which ones are still yet to be fired up and update, etc.
Trying to do that with Firefox/Chrome without a bunch of scripting and/or tools we don't already have (eg, WSUS)?
I'd still be at it next month.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30949002</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30952062</id>
	<title>Re:Not fast</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264790460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>True, but there is no particular reason for layer of abstraction to slow down code. In fact, safe languages like Java/Javascript/C#/most languages that aren't C/C++ should theoretically be able to be compiled to be <em>faster</em> than C/C++ because they do not need hardware memory protection. The fact that they are currently slower is a result of compiler/programming language technology not being very good. (Yes, I know Javascript is theoretically dynamically typed which makes compiling it more complicated, but 99.9\% of the time variables don't change type so the modern Firefox/Chrome/Safari implementations basically assume that variable types don't change and default to significantly slower code if they do and get away with doing so.)</htmltext>
<tokenext>True , but there is no particular reason for layer of abstraction to slow down code .
In fact , safe languages like Java/Javascript/C # /most languages that are n't C/C + + should theoretically be able to be compiled to be faster than C/C + + because they do not need hardware memory protection .
The fact that they are currently slower is a result of compiler/programming language technology not being very good .
( Yes , I know Javascript is theoretically dynamically typed which makes compiling it more complicated , but 99.9 \ % of the time variables do n't change type so the modern Firefox/Chrome/Safari implementations basically assume that variable types do n't change and default to significantly slower code if they do and get away with doing so .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>True, but there is no particular reason for layer of abstraction to slow down code.
In fact, safe languages like Java/Javascript/C#/most languages that aren't C/C++ should theoretically be able to be compiled to be faster than C/C++ because they do not need hardware memory protection.
The fact that they are currently slower is a result of compiler/programming language technology not being very good.
(Yes, I know Javascript is theoretically dynamically typed which makes compiling it more complicated, but 99.9\% of the time variables don't change type so the modern Firefox/Chrome/Safari implementations basically assume that variable types don't change and default to significantly slower code if they do and get away with doing so.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30948556</id>
	<title>Re:That's hardly a benchmark</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264776240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>freeciv is a terrible resource hog.  Quake could do 3d realtime graphics on a machine freeciv would struggle to compute all the turns in under a minute on.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>freeciv is a terrible resource hog .
Quake could do 3d realtime graphics on a machine freeciv would struggle to compute all the turns in under a minute on .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>freeciv is a terrible resource hog.
Quake could do 3d realtime graphics on a machine freeciv would struggle to compute all the turns in under a minute on.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30947726</id>
	<title>Re:Not fast</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1264768020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Obligatory thedailywtf.com link: <a href="http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/The\_Inner-Platform\_Effect.aspx" title="thedailywtf.com">http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/The\_Inner-Platform\_Effect.aspx</a> [thedailywtf.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Obligatory thedailywtf.com link : http : //thedailywtf.com/Articles/The \ _Inner-Platform \ _Effect.aspx [ thedailywtf.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Obligatory thedailywtf.com link: http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/The\_Inner-Platform\_Effect.aspx [thedailywtf.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30954400</id>
	<title>Re:Not fast</title>
	<author>rliden</author>
	<datestamp>1264757280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I use Chrome and tried the game out.  The game seemed fairly playable and if the animation was jagged I didn't really notice it.  I also haven't really played the game before except a few years ago when I use LInux, so maybe to a regular player they might notice the difference.  What really amazed me is that the game played, looked pretty good, and there was no Flash.  It was exciting to see something like that work so well.</p><p>For reference I use the Chrome Beta channel (there are 3 stable, beta, and dev).  My system is an HP e9290 with an i920/2.6Ghz, 9MB tri-channel, Nvidia 260GTX/1.8GB) running Windows 7 Home Premium - 64bit.  Since it's a fairly new system maybe that makes a difference, or maybe not since I've seen some 32 bit apps that still perform like crap.  It just shows that more hardware power can't always overcome poorly coded software limitations.  It would be really cool if there was an option in the game to display the current framerate for an easy comparison.</p><p>In any event I think it's cool that these guys are embracing this head on.  Hopefully IE9 will support HTML5.  That could make a huge difference in adoption and progress.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I use Chrome and tried the game out .
The game seemed fairly playable and if the animation was jagged I did n't really notice it .
I also have n't really played the game before except a few years ago when I use LInux , so maybe to a regular player they might notice the difference .
What really amazed me is that the game played , looked pretty good , and there was no Flash .
It was exciting to see something like that work so well.For reference I use the Chrome Beta channel ( there are 3 stable , beta , and dev ) .
My system is an HP e9290 with an i920/2.6Ghz , 9MB tri-channel , Nvidia 260GTX/1.8GB ) running Windows 7 Home Premium - 64bit .
Since it 's a fairly new system maybe that makes a difference , or maybe not since I 've seen some 32 bit apps that still perform like crap .
It just shows that more hardware power ca n't always overcome poorly coded software limitations .
It would be really cool if there was an option in the game to display the current framerate for an easy comparison.In any event I think it 's cool that these guys are embracing this head on .
Hopefully IE9 will support HTML5 .
That could make a huge difference in adoption and progress .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use Chrome and tried the game out.
The game seemed fairly playable and if the animation was jagged I didn't really notice it.
I also haven't really played the game before except a few years ago when I use LInux, so maybe to a regular player they might notice the difference.
What really amazed me is that the game played, looked pretty good, and there was no Flash.
It was exciting to see something like that work so well.For reference I use the Chrome Beta channel (there are 3 stable, beta, and dev).
My system is an HP e9290 with an i920/2.6Ghz, 9MB tri-channel, Nvidia 260GTX/1.8GB) running Windows 7 Home Premium - 64bit.
Since it's a fairly new system maybe that makes a difference, or maybe not since I've seen some 32 bit apps that still perform like crap.
It just shows that more hardware power can't always overcome poorly coded software limitations.
It would be really cool if there was an option in the game to display the current framerate for an easy comparison.In any event I think it's cool that these guys are embracing this head on.
Hopefully IE9 will support HTML5.
That could make a huge difference in adoption and progress.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30946070</id>
	<title>Graphics</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264704180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Speaking of graphics, why am I seeing Twitter and Facebook graphics next to the "Read More..." link? Has my subscription expired and this has been going on all along? Is it time to "opt-out" of Slashdot?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Speaking of graphics , why am I seeing Twitter and Facebook graphics next to the " Read More... " link ?
Has my subscription expired and this has been going on all along ?
Is it time to " opt-out " of Slashdot ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Speaking of graphics, why am I seeing Twitter and Facebook graphics next to the "Read More..." link?
Has my subscription expired and this has been going on all along?
Is it time to "opt-out" of Slashdot?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30946692</id>
	<title>Re:IE8 performs awesome, as usual</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264797060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't know, I ran their benchmark in IE8 and got 382ms, so not sure how they got 4000+.  Their benchmark though.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't know , I ran their benchmark in IE8 and got 382ms , so not sure how they got 4000 + .
Their benchmark though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't know, I ran their benchmark in IE8 and got 382ms, so not sure how they got 4000+.
Their benchmark though.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30946814</id>
	<title>Firefox 3.5 outperformed Firefox 3.0</title>
	<author>Billly Gates</author>
	<datestamp>1264798140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>SuSE OpenLinux had an old 3.0.7 version of Firefox while Vista had a newer version.</p><p>Firefox 3.5 has a totally rewritten javascript engine from scratch. It uses some dynamic tree mathmatical aglorithms to perform operations many times faster and has support for javascript functions mapped in ram before execution.  Vista used Firefox 3.5 while SuSE had Firefox 3.0.7 installed without the new javascript engine. Firefox 3.0.x was a ram hog compared to 3.5 too.</p><p>I also imagine Safari would execute on MacOSX much better than Windows since its designed for it. Itunes is kind of proof as it sucks on Windows.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>SuSE OpenLinux had an old 3.0.7 version of Firefox while Vista had a newer version.Firefox 3.5 has a totally rewritten javascript engine from scratch .
It uses some dynamic tree mathmatical aglorithms to perform operations many times faster and has support for javascript functions mapped in ram before execution .
Vista used Firefox 3.5 while SuSE had Firefox 3.0.7 installed without the new javascript engine .
Firefox 3.0.x was a ram hog compared to 3.5 too.I also imagine Safari would execute on MacOSX much better than Windows since its designed for it .
Itunes is kind of proof as it sucks on Windows .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>SuSE OpenLinux had an old 3.0.7 version of Firefox while Vista had a newer version.Firefox 3.5 has a totally rewritten javascript engine from scratch.
It uses some dynamic tree mathmatical aglorithms to perform operations many times faster and has support for javascript functions mapped in ram before execution.
Vista used Firefox 3.5 while SuSE had Firefox 3.0.7 installed without the new javascript engine.
Firefox 3.0.x was a ram hog compared to 3.5 too.I also imagine Safari would execute on MacOSX much better than Windows since its designed for it.
Itunes is kind of proof as it sucks on Windows.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30947660</id>
	<title>Re:Not fast</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264767060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's within less than a full order of magnitude, since that would be 10x, you only need about 16fps for it to be suitable which is obviously 2x.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's within less than a full order of magnitude , since that would be 10x , you only need about 16fps for it to be suitable which is obviously 2x .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's within less than a full order of magnitude, since that would be 10x, you only need about 16fps for it to be suitable which is obviously 2x.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30969102</id>
	<title>Obligatory XKCD</title>
	<author>jonaskoelker</author>
	<datestamp>1264935660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>See also <a href="http://xkcd.com/676/" title="xkcd.com">http://xkcd.com/676/</a> [xkcd.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>See also http : //xkcd.com/676/ [ xkcd.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>See also http://xkcd.com/676/ [xkcd.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30946602</id>
	<title>IE8 x86 vs 64bit?</title>
	<author>DigiShaman</author>
	<datestamp>1264796040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Has anyone compared IE8 x86 vs 64bit with this benchmark? If so, what were the results?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Has anyone compared IE8 x86 vs 64bit with this benchmark ?
If so , what were the results ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Has anyone compared IE8 x86 vs 64bit with this benchmark?
If so, what were the results?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30946920</id>
	<title>Re:bias</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264756140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Um, are we looking at the same results?</p><p>The one I see shows Chrome performing more or less the same. The only other Linux result is Firefox 3.0.15, all the other Firefoxes are much newer (read: faster) versions running on Windows.</p><p>These results show nothing conclusive about the operating systems either way, nor would I expect them to since they are more or less the same in most of the regards that would effect this test.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Um , are we looking at the same results ? The one I see shows Chrome performing more or less the same .
The only other Linux result is Firefox 3.0.15 , all the other Firefoxes are much newer ( read : faster ) versions running on Windows.These results show nothing conclusive about the operating systems either way , nor would I expect them to since they are more or less the same in most of the regards that would effect this test .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Um, are we looking at the same results?The one I see shows Chrome performing more or less the same.
The only other Linux result is Firefox 3.0.15, all the other Firefoxes are much newer (read: faster) versions running on Windows.These results show nothing conclusive about the operating systems either way, nor would I expect them to since they are more or less the same in most of the regards that would effect this test.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30948732</id>
	<title>Re:Graphics</title>
	<author>Luyseyal</author>
	<datestamp>1264777200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've been using Lite Mode for years and years. This stuff never bothers me and it's reading<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. the way god intended.</p><p>-l</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been using Lite Mode for years and years .
This stuff never bothers me and it 's reading / .
the way god intended.-l</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been using Lite Mode for years and years.
This stuff never bothers me and it's reading /.
the way god intended.-l</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30945930</id>
	<title>Not fast</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264702800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Worth noting that Chrome, as the fastest, is still only eight frames per second, which would be dreadful even for a turn-based game.  I didn't see where they said how powerful of a machine they ran it on, so I assume it's a moderately powerful pc.  Still, it's within an order of magnitude of where it needs to be, so it'll probably be running smoothly within a year or two.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Worth noting that Chrome , as the fastest , is still only eight frames per second , which would be dreadful even for a turn-based game .
I did n't see where they said how powerful of a machine they ran it on , so I assume it 's a moderately powerful pc .
Still , it 's within an order of magnitude of where it needs to be , so it 'll probably be running smoothly within a year or two .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Worth noting that Chrome, as the fastest, is still only eight frames per second, which would be dreadful even for a turn-based game.
I didn't see where they said how powerful of a machine they ran it on, so I assume it's a moderately powerful pc.
Still, it's within an order of magnitude of where it needs to be, so it'll probably be running smoothly within a year or two.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30949396</id>
	<title>Inner platform as a sandbox</title>
	<author>tepples</author>
	<datestamp>1264780740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>so what do we do with all the extra power? We rewrite games we played many years ago on top of so many layers of abstraction that they're no longer playable</p></div><p>Sure, an inner platform reduces efficiency. But it also acts as a sandbox to prevent the program from destroying or disclosing your personal documents or making permanent system changes that degrade your user experience outside of a given application. For instance, a few versions of PHP a while back had a "safe mode" that (among other things) limited a PHP program's file system reads and writes to a given folder so that it could not affect other unrelated applications running on the same server.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>so what do we do with all the extra power ?
We rewrite games we played many years ago on top of so many layers of abstraction that they 're no longer playableSure , an inner platform reduces efficiency .
But it also acts as a sandbox to prevent the program from destroying or disclosing your personal documents or making permanent system changes that degrade your user experience outside of a given application .
For instance , a few versions of PHP a while back had a " safe mode " that ( among other things ) limited a PHP program 's file system reads and writes to a given folder so that it could not affect other unrelated applications running on the same server .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>so what do we do with all the extra power?
We rewrite games we played many years ago on top of so many layers of abstraction that they're no longer playableSure, an inner platform reduces efficiency.
But it also acts as a sandbox to prevent the program from destroying or disclosing your personal documents or making permanent system changes that degrade your user experience outside of a given application.
For instance, a few versions of PHP a while back had a "safe mode" that (among other things) limited a PHP program's file system reads and writes to a given folder so that it could not affect other unrelated applications running on the same server.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30955776</id>
	<title>Re:Not fast</title>
	<author>SeanMon</author>
	<datestamp>1264762680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>[S]o what do we do with all the extra power?</p></div><p>Run Flash. In a browser. On top of a virtualized OS. <a href="http://xkcd.com/676/" title="xkcd.com">To watch a cat jump into a box and fall over.</a> [xkcd.com]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>[ S ] o what do we do with all the extra power ? Run Flash .
In a browser .
On top of a virtualized OS .
To watch a cat jump into a box and fall over .
[ xkcd.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>[S]o what do we do with all the extra power?Run Flash.
In a browser.
On top of a virtualized OS.
To watch a cat jump into a box and fall over.
[xkcd.com]
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30945988</id>
	<title>No Opera?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264703220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd like to see their 10.1 beta up there..</p><p>Also - HTML 5 isn't a "standard"...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd like to see their 10.1 beta up there..Also - HTML 5 is n't a " standard " .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd like to see their 10.1 beta up there..Also - HTML 5 isn't a "standard"...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30945832</id>
	<title>IE8 performs awesome, as usual</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264702020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wow, really just WOW.  I don't know what to say at that comparison.  I don't care if it uses some feature thats slow as balls in IE8 for a very good reason, thats still completely unacceptable.</p><p>I wonder how MS's online office stuffs benchmark in IE8 compared to other browsers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow , really just WOW .
I do n't know what to say at that comparison .
I do n't care if it uses some feature thats slow as balls in IE8 for a very good reason , thats still completely unacceptable.I wonder how MS 's online office stuffs benchmark in IE8 compared to other browsers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow, really just WOW.
I don't know what to say at that comparison.
I don't care if it uses some feature thats slow as balls in IE8 for a very good reason, thats still completely unacceptable.I wonder how MS's online office stuffs benchmark in IE8 compared to other browsers.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30953606</id>
	<title>Re:Drop IE8</title>
	<author>thetoadwarrior</author>
	<datestamp>1264796940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm on the fence about that. I prefer to have full control over when something is updated. However I update my browsers all the time so why does it matter if it happens on its own? But more importantly so many don't update their browser which causes absolute nightmares for security and web developers so again it's a good thing.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm on the fence about that .
I prefer to have full control over when something is updated .
However I update my browsers all the time so why does it matter if it happens on its own ?
But more importantly so many do n't update their browser which causes absolute nightmares for security and web developers so again it 's a good thing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm on the fence about that.
I prefer to have full control over when something is updated.
However I update my browsers all the time so why does it matter if it happens on its own?
But more importantly so many don't update their browser which causes absolute nightmares for security and web developers so again it's a good thing.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30945938</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30946526</id>
	<title>Re:Not fast</title>
	<author>kestasjk</author>
	<datestamp>1264795200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>8fps is fine for Freeciv. (And by the way check out Freeciv, especially if you liked any of the Civilization series. I am stoked to hear they're getting it working within a browser; goodbye productivity!)</htmltext>
<tokenext>8fps is fine for Freeciv .
( And by the way check out Freeciv , especially if you liked any of the Civilization series .
I am stoked to hear they 're getting it working within a browser ; goodbye productivity !
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>8fps is fine for Freeciv.
(And by the way check out Freeciv, especially if you liked any of the Civilization series.
I am stoked to hear they're getting it working within a browser; goodbye productivity!
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30946470</id>
	<title>bias</title>
	<author>smash</author>
	<datestamp>1264708260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Linux outperformed by windows Vista!  or "Vista fastest web operating system!"
<p>
Seriously though, any idea why Chrome is faster on Vista, the most maligned, stereotyped as slow OS there has ever been?  Would also be keen to see OS X results.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Linux outperformed by windows Vista !
or " Vista fastest web operating system !
" Seriously though , any idea why Chrome is faster on Vista , the most maligned , stereotyped as slow OS there has ever been ?
Would also be keen to see OS X results .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Linux outperformed by windows Vista!
or "Vista fastest web operating system!
"

Seriously though, any idea why Chrome is faster on Vista, the most maligned, stereotyped as slow OS there has ever been?
Would also be keen to see OS X results.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30946148</id>
	<title>Re:what the fuck?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264704900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>To annoy the hell out of one Anonymous Coward.</p><p>There, now don't you feel special?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>To annoy the hell out of one Anonymous Coward.There , now do n't you feel special ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To annoy the hell out of one Anonymous Coward.There, now don't you feel special?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30947606</id>
	<title>Re:Not fast</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264766160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Heck, the original Civilization came out in 1991.  Assuming Moore's Law with a 2-year doubling time, we should be running it 2^(19/2) = 724 times faster now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Heck , the original Civilization came out in 1991 .
Assuming Moore 's Law with a 2-year doubling time , we should be running it 2 ^ ( 19/2 ) = 724 times faster now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Heck, the original Civilization came out in 1991.
Assuming Moore's Law with a 2-year doubling time, we should be running it 2^(19/2) = 724 times faster now.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30948150</id>
	<title>Re:Not fast</title>
	<author>TheRaven64</author>
	<datestamp>1264772880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Meh.  We run lots of things in slow ways.  Remember all of those games you used to play that took 100\% of your computer or console's power?  Now I run them in something that emulates the entire system.  Oh, and they run faster than they did back then too.</p><p>
I ran Civilisation on a 16MHz 386SX.  An x86 emulator written in JavaScript running in a browser on a modern PC will get better performance than that.  FreeCiv is a bit more processor-intensive than the original Civilisation, but it can probably handle rendering on the client.</p><p>
You might remember those old NeXT workstations from the '80s.  They ran a PostScript VM in the window server and everything on the display was created by small PostScript programs.  These used the same drawing model as the canvas tag, but a stack-based language which was directly interpreted (no JIT, unlike a modern JavaScript engine).  And yet, the NeXT systems had a reputation for beautiful graphics.  </p><p>
A modern browser is finally a system that does Display PostScript / NeWS right.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Meh .
We run lots of things in slow ways .
Remember all of those games you used to play that took 100 \ % of your computer or console 's power ?
Now I run them in something that emulates the entire system .
Oh , and they run faster than they did back then too .
I ran Civilisation on a 16MHz 386SX .
An x86 emulator written in JavaScript running in a browser on a modern PC will get better performance than that .
FreeCiv is a bit more processor-intensive than the original Civilisation , but it can probably handle rendering on the client .
You might remember those old NeXT workstations from the '80s .
They ran a PostScript VM in the window server and everything on the display was created by small PostScript programs .
These used the same drawing model as the canvas tag , but a stack-based language which was directly interpreted ( no JIT , unlike a modern JavaScript engine ) .
And yet , the NeXT systems had a reputation for beautiful graphics .
A modern browser is finally a system that does Display PostScript / NeWS right .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Meh.
We run lots of things in slow ways.
Remember all of those games you used to play that took 100\% of your computer or console's power?
Now I run them in something that emulates the entire system.
Oh, and they run faster than they did back then too.
I ran Civilisation on a 16MHz 386SX.
An x86 emulator written in JavaScript running in a browser on a modern PC will get better performance than that.
FreeCiv is a bit more processor-intensive than the original Civilisation, but it can probably handle rendering on the client.
You might remember those old NeXT workstations from the '80s.
They ran a PostScript VM in the window server and everything on the display was created by small PostScript programs.
These used the same drawing model as the canvas tag, but a stack-based language which was directly interpreted (no JIT, unlike a modern JavaScript engine).
And yet, the NeXT systems had a reputation for beautiful graphics.
A modern browser is finally a system that does Display PostScript / NeWS right.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30946062</id>
	<title>In case anyone was wondering...</title>
	<author>Beardydog</author>
	<datestamp>1264704180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>The iPhone is not quite fast enough : /</htmltext>
<tokenext>The iPhone is not quite fast enough : /</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The iPhone is not quite fast enough : /</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30946404</id>
	<title>Re:Drop IE8</title>
	<author>Bios\_Hakr</author>
	<datestamp>1264707660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Freeciv should probably be blocked at work anyway.</p><p>We used to have an old client/server installed in the office a few years ago.  It was a fun game to login every hour or two and do a turn or two.</p><p>But these days, SmartFilter pretty much grabs everything that isn't work-related.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Freeciv should probably be blocked at work anyway.We used to have an old client/server installed in the office a few years ago .
It was a fun game to login every hour or two and do a turn or two.But these days , SmartFilter pretty much grabs everything that is n't work-related .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Freeciv should probably be blocked at work anyway.We used to have an old client/server installed in the office a few years ago.
It was a fun game to login every hour or two and do a turn or two.But these days, SmartFilter pretty much grabs everything that isn't work-related.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30945938</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30960430</id>
	<title>Re:Drop IE8</title>
	<author>smash</author>
	<datestamp>1264842840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>OH... also, our HTTP proxy uses windows auth.
<p>
Put the password in firefox and save it you say?  Yeah, sure if they're not a fucking moron user.
</p><p>
If they ARE a typical moron user, 3 months comes around, they change their password, expect it to have magically updated in firefox/chrome/whatever, click OK 3 times and lock themselves out.
</p><p>
Don't get me wrong, I avoid IE8 for everything I can, but when responsible for a corporate network, trying to reliably support anything else out in the field (that can't be configured via group policy, doesn't do updates via WSUS, etc) - is a pain in the arse.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>OH... also , our HTTP proxy uses windows auth .
Put the password in firefox and save it you say ?
Yeah , sure if they 're not a fucking moron user .
If they ARE a typical moron user , 3 months comes around , they change their password , expect it to have magically updated in firefox/chrome/whatever , click OK 3 times and lock themselves out .
Do n't get me wrong , I avoid IE8 for everything I can , but when responsible for a corporate network , trying to reliably support anything else out in the field ( that ca n't be configured via group policy , does n't do updates via WSUS , etc ) - is a pain in the arse .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OH... also, our HTTP proxy uses windows auth.
Put the password in firefox and save it you say?
Yeah, sure if they're not a fucking moron user.
If they ARE a typical moron user, 3 months comes around, they change their password, expect it to have magically updated in firefox/chrome/whatever, click OK 3 times and lock themselves out.
Don't get me wrong, I avoid IE8 for everything I can, but when responsible for a corporate network, trying to reliably support anything else out in the field (that can't be configured via group policy, doesn't do updates via WSUS, etc) - is a pain in the arse.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30948088</id>
	<title>Freeciv.ORG</title>
	<author>Lord Satri</author>
	<datestamp>1264772340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The summary and the freeciv.net main page (I'm sure it's somewhere else but that's my point) doesn't mention this: it's based on <a href="http://freeciv.org/" title="freeciv.org">freeciv.org</a> [freeciv.org].</p><p>(also strange; the freeciv.org site only mention freeciv.net in their 'community news', not 'project news', so it really seems "distinct projects", they're not officially promoting the other option, yet?)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The summary and the freeciv.net main page ( I 'm sure it 's somewhere else but that 's my point ) does n't mention this : it 's based on freeciv.org [ freeciv.org ] .
( also strange ; the freeciv.org site only mention freeciv.net in their 'community news ' , not 'project news ' , so it really seems " distinct projects " , they 're not officially promoting the other option , yet ?
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The summary and the freeciv.net main page (I'm sure it's somewhere else but that's my point) doesn't mention this: it's based on freeciv.org [freeciv.org].
(also strange; the freeciv.org site only mention freeciv.net in their 'community news', not 'project news', so it really seems "distinct projects", they're not officially promoting the other option, yet?
)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30953146</id>
	<title>Re:bias</title>
	<author>DragonWriter</author>
	<datestamp>1264794780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Seriously though, any idea why Chrome is faster on Vista</p></div></blockquote><p>Because Chrome was first released for Windows and the Windows version is the most mature version?</p><p>It wasn't until quite a while after Chrome was released that there was any official Chrome for Linux, and it was fairly recently that that was on anything but the dev channel.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously though , any idea why Chrome is faster on VistaBecause Chrome was first released for Windows and the Windows version is the most mature version ? It was n't until quite a while after Chrome was released that there was any official Chrome for Linux , and it was fairly recently that that was on anything but the dev channel .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously though, any idea why Chrome is faster on VistaBecause Chrome was first released for Windows and the Windows version is the most mature version?It wasn't until quite a while after Chrome was released that there was any official Chrome for Linux, and it was fairly recently that that was on anything but the dev channel.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30946470</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30946006</id>
	<title>Opera?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264703340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Opera didn't make the list?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Opera did n't make the list ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Opera didn't make the list?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30945808</id>
	<title>what the fuck?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264701900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>why the fuck are there twitter and facebook buttons all over slashdot?</htmltext>
<tokenext>why the fuck are there twitter and facebook buttons all over slashdot ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>why the fuck are there twitter and facebook buttons all over slashdot?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30949174</id>
	<title>anything server-sided ?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264779780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>is any part of the game server-sided ?<br>isn't this gonna be more of a slashdot-testing of their servers then ?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>is any part of the game server-sided ? is n't this gon na be more of a slashdot-testing of their servers then ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>is any part of the game server-sided ?isn't this gonna be more of a slashdot-testing of their servers then ?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30947288</id>
	<title>Slow vs. Old</title>
	<author>Pedrito</author>
	<datestamp>1264761060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wow, that benchmark makes IE look almost as antiquated as the game Civilization.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow , that benchmark makes IE look almost as antiquated as the game Civilization .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow, that benchmark makes IE look almost as antiquated as the game Civilization.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30947236</id>
	<title>Re:Not fast</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264760520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And I believe the trend will be for consumer CPUs to aim for lower heat and power, rather than higher speed.  Unfortunately, the abstraction layers just keep piling on there.

</p><p>Give it another few years, and we might not be able to emulate Commodore 64 games on the desktop any more.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And I believe the trend will be for consumer CPUs to aim for lower heat and power , rather than higher speed .
Unfortunately , the abstraction layers just keep piling on there .
Give it another few years , and we might not be able to emulate Commodore 64 games on the desktop any more .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And I believe the trend will be for consumer CPUs to aim for lower heat and power, rather than higher speed.
Unfortunately, the abstraction layers just keep piling on there.
Give it another few years, and we might not be able to emulate Commodore 64 games on the desktop any more.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30946506</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30946510</id>
	<title>Flash</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264708620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>FUCK FLASH</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>FUCK FLASH</tokentext>
<sentencetext>FUCK FLASH</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30945938</id>
	<title>Re:Drop IE8</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264702860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>For the home user, not much, and Google's sneaky updates in the background model will piss them off less than Microsoft's blatant tooltips whining at you to update.<br> <br>

To the gimlet-eyed corporate IT guy who controls the browser on 10,000 seats and DroneCorp Inc, LLC, on the other hand, it will pretty much come down to "Which one will allow me to break anything you might possibly do instead of your work just by clicking at group policy objects for a few minutes?" and "Which one will pull updates from WSUS?".

This is why Chrome's marketshare is increasing at a fair clip; but the worker bees at DroneCorp Inc, LLC will be getting IE7 sometime in 2012...</htmltext>
<tokenext>For the home user , not much , and Google 's sneaky updates in the background model will piss them off less than Microsoft 's blatant tooltips whining at you to update .
To the gimlet-eyed corporate IT guy who controls the browser on 10,000 seats and DroneCorp Inc , LLC , on the other hand , it will pretty much come down to " Which one will allow me to break anything you might possibly do instead of your work just by clicking at group policy objects for a few minutes ?
" and " Which one will pull updates from WSUS ? " .
This is why Chrome 's marketshare is increasing at a fair clip ; but the worker bees at DroneCorp Inc , LLC will be getting IE7 sometime in 2012.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For the home user, not much, and Google's sneaky updates in the background model will piss them off less than Microsoft's blatant tooltips whining at you to update.
To the gimlet-eyed corporate IT guy who controls the browser on 10,000 seats and DroneCorp Inc, LLC, on the other hand, it will pretty much come down to "Which one will allow me to break anything you might possibly do instead of your work just by clicking at group policy objects for a few minutes?
" and "Which one will pull updates from WSUS?".
This is why Chrome's marketshare is increasing at a fair clip; but the worker bees at DroneCorp Inc, LLC will be getting IE7 sometime in 2012...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30945840</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30946422</id>
	<title>Re:Not fast</title>
	<author>jo42</author>
	<datestamp>1264707840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>only eight frames per second</p></div><p>And this, kids, is why we don't run applications inside of web browsers.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>only eight frames per secondAnd this , kids , is why we do n't run applications inside of web browsers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>only eight frames per secondAnd this, kids, is why we don't run applications inside of web browsers.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30945930</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30945950</id>
	<title>They want me to sign up</title>
	<author>bunbuntheminilop</author>
	<datestamp>1264702980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This seems like a con to get me to sign up to their service.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This seems like a con to get me to sign up to their service .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This seems like a con to get me to sign up to their service.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30950712</id>
	<title>I thought...</title>
	<author>benj288</author>
	<datestamp>1264785960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://totalmound.com/xfdaoqb" title="totalmound.com" rel="nofollow">http://totalmound.com/xfdaoqb</a> [totalmound.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //totalmound.com/xfdaoqb [ totalmound.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://totalmound.com/xfdaoqb [totalmound.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30947708</id>
	<title>No Mac benchmarks</title>
	<author>XxtraLarGe</author>
	<datestamp>1264767780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I wonder how the game would run on Safari (or Chrome or Firefox or Opera for that matter) on the Mac vs. Safari on Windows 7? I'm sure with a few tweeks for Mobile Safari, FreeCiv could become a favorite on the new iPad.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder how the game would run on Safari ( or Chrome or Firefox or Opera for that matter ) on the Mac vs. Safari on Windows 7 ?
I 'm sure with a few tweeks for Mobile Safari , FreeCiv could become a favorite on the new iPad .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder how the game would run on Safari (or Chrome or Firefox or Opera for that matter) on the Mac vs. Safari on Windows 7?
I'm sure with a few tweeks for Mobile Safari, FreeCiv could become a favorite on the new iPad.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30946202</id>
	<title>Re:IE8 performs awesome, as usual</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264705560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yeah, because all these browser makers falling all over themselves to implement a half baked, incomplete standard that nobody's using for much of anything are so ahead of the game, amiright?  Nobody but neckbeards cares about HTML5...yet.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , because all these browser makers falling all over themselves to implement a half baked , incomplete standard that nobody 's using for much of anything are so ahead of the game , amiright ?
Nobody but neckbeards cares about HTML5...yet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, because all these browser makers falling all over themselves to implement a half baked, incomplete standard that nobody's using for much of anything are so ahead of the game, amiright?
Nobody but neckbeards cares about HTML5...yet.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30945832</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30948102</id>
	<title>HTML5...</title>
	<author>crazycheetah</author>
	<datestamp>1264772400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This isn't HTML5-specific, but um... writing about newer browser technology as Slashdot gets upgraded into even more web 2.0 greatness (or horribleness, if that's your taking). Really? Facebook and Twitter links? And I may have easily missed it happen some time ago, but moving around the "slashboxes" on the right is not something I noticed until just accidentally tripping on it right as I saw this thread...</p><p>Take this positive or negative... fact of the matter is, I've not decided yet...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is n't HTML5-specific , but um... writing about newer browser technology as Slashdot gets upgraded into even more web 2.0 greatness ( or horribleness , if that 's your taking ) .
Really ? Facebook and Twitter links ?
And I may have easily missed it happen some time ago , but moving around the " slashboxes " on the right is not something I noticed until just accidentally tripping on it right as I saw this thread...Take this positive or negative... fact of the matter is , I 've not decided yet.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This isn't HTML5-specific, but um... writing about newer browser technology as Slashdot gets upgraded into even more web 2.0 greatness (or horribleness, if that's your taking).
Really? Facebook and Twitter links?
And I may have easily missed it happen some time ago, but moving around the "slashboxes" on the right is not something I noticed until just accidentally tripping on it right as I saw this thread...Take this positive or negative... fact of the matter is, I've not decided yet...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30948942</id>
	<title>Re:Drop IE8</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264778520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Firefox does it fine for me. See about:config for the NTLM URIs. Look ma, no IE Tab!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Firefox does it fine for me .
See about : config for the NTLM URIs .
Look ma , no IE Tab !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Firefox does it fine for me.
See about:config for the NTLM URIs.
Look ma, no IE Tab!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30946542</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30945790</id>
	<title>That's hardly a benchmark</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264701780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Now someone just needs to port the Quakes over, for a real benchmark. None of this turn-based strategy nonsense.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:p</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now someone just needs to port the Quakes over , for a real benchmark .
None of this turn-based strategy nonsense .
: p</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now someone just needs to port the Quakes over, for a real benchmark.
None of this turn-based strategy nonsense.
:p</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30946398</id>
	<title>Re:Not fast</title>
	<author>maitai</author>
	<datestamp>1264707600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd assume it's not.  I ran their benchmark with Chrome on Win 7 and my Sony laptop and got 43.8ms as the result which is quite a bit faster than they listed as their result.</p><p>I also got 149.72 with FF 3.6, which again is quite a bit faster.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd assume it 's not .
I ran their benchmark with Chrome on Win 7 and my Sony laptop and got 43.8ms as the result which is quite a bit faster than they listed as their result.I also got 149.72 with FF 3.6 , which again is quite a bit faster .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd assume it's not.
I ran their benchmark with Chrome on Win 7 and my Sony laptop and got 43.8ms as the result which is quite a bit faster than they listed as their result.I also got 149.72 with FF 3.6, which again is quite a bit faster.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30945930</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30947734</id>
	<title>Re:IE8 performs awesome, as usual</title>
	<author>Chatterton</author>
	<datestamp>1264768140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>you can see them implementing some HTML 5 functionality as a contest of whom piss the further. But I prefer to see it as a testbed of HTML 5, seeing what work and what doesn't to improve the actual draft of the HTML 5 spec. A lot of the spec in HTML 5 are in because of the implementation done by Mozilla, Opera and Chrome of these specs.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>you can see them implementing some HTML 5 functionality as a contest of whom piss the further .
But I prefer to see it as a testbed of HTML 5 , seeing what work and what does n't to improve the actual draft of the HTML 5 spec .
A lot of the spec in HTML 5 are in because of the implementation done by Mozilla , Opera and Chrome of these specs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>you can see them implementing some HTML 5 functionality as a contest of whom piss the further.
But I prefer to see it as a testbed of HTML 5, seeing what work and what doesn't to improve the actual draft of the HTML 5 spec.
A lot of the spec in HTML 5 are in because of the implementation done by Mozilla, Opera and Chrome of these specs.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30946202</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30948854</id>
	<title>Re:IE8 performs awesome, as usual</title>
	<author>hufman</author>
	<datestamp>1264777980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>How is neckbeard an insult? Are we seriously starting to discriminate based on the pattern of someone's facial hair? Wow...</htmltext>
<tokenext>How is neckbeard an insult ?
Are we seriously starting to discriminate based on the pattern of someone 's facial hair ?
Wow.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How is neckbeard an insult?
Are we seriously starting to discriminate based on the pattern of someone's facial hair?
Wow...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30946202</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30952272</id>
	<title>Re:Graphics</title>
	<author>clone53421</author>
	<datestamp>1264791240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I added this AdBlock Plus filter as soon as I noticed them:<br><tt>slashdot.org##span.share</tt></p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I added this AdBlock Plus filter as soon as I noticed them : slashdot.org # # span.share</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I added this AdBlock Plus filter as soon as I noticed them:slashdot.org##span.share</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30946070</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30948630</id>
	<title>Re:Drop IE8</title>
	<author>atamido</author>
	<datestamp>1264776660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Enabling NTLM in Firefox is URI specific.  I haven't seen any issues with it though.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Enabling NTLM in Firefox is URI specific .
I have n't seen any issues with it though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Enabling NTLM in Firefox is URI specific.
I haven't seen any issues with it though.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30946542</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30950622</id>
	<title>You don't get it</title>
	<author>ClosedSource</author>
	<datestamp>1264785660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"IE8 isn't the dominant IE browser yet. Drop IE8 support and offer the IE6/IE7 users a chance to go to another browser."</p><p>Companies want to have as many people as possible view their site. They don't care if their web developers don't want to support IE. There are plenty of developers out there that understand the golden rule: "those with the gold, make the rules". That's why they call it "work".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" IE8 is n't the dominant IE browser yet .
Drop IE8 support and offer the IE6/IE7 users a chance to go to another browser .
" Companies want to have as many people as possible view their site .
They do n't care if their web developers do n't want to support IE .
There are plenty of developers out there that understand the golden rule : " those with the gold , make the rules " .
That 's why they call it " work " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"IE8 isn't the dominant IE browser yet.
Drop IE8 support and offer the IE6/IE7 users a chance to go to another browser.
"Companies want to have as many people as possible view their site.
They don't care if their web developers don't want to support IE.
There are plenty of developers out there that understand the golden rule: "those with the gold, make the rules".
That's why they call it "work".</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30945840</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30946046</id>
	<title>Slashvertisement</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264703820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Enough said.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Enough said .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Enough said.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30946074</id>
	<title>Re:That's hardly a benchmark</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264704180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.quakelive.com/" title="quakelive.com">QuakeLive</a> [quakelive.com] isn't too bad.</htmltext>
<tokenext>QuakeLive [ quakelive.com ] is n't too bad .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>QuakeLive [quakelive.com] isn't too bad.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30945790</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30946256</id>
	<title>Re:what the fuck?</title>
	<author>obarthelemy</author>
	<datestamp>1264706100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Cowboyneal has worked out a system to automatically transfer all 2 posts where they belong.</p><p>Or someone sold out.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Cowboyneal has worked out a system to automatically transfer all 2 posts where they belong.Or someone sold out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cowboyneal has worked out a system to automatically transfer all 2 posts where they belong.Or someone sold out.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30948282</id>
	<title>FreeCiv vs Civ4</title>
	<author>moonbender</author>
	<datestamp>1264774320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I started playing Civ4 last week for a couple of games -- it runs very well in Wine, incidently -- and I'm wondering how FreeCiv compares. Obviously the graphics aren't there, but after a couple of games that seems less and less important. The gameplay mechanics are what matters, and I think they work very very well in Civ4. And is the AI any good? Wikipedia seems to imply that diplomacy is a bit simple.</p><p>Anybody got "in-depth" experience with both games?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I started playing Civ4 last week for a couple of games -- it runs very well in Wine , incidently -- and I 'm wondering how FreeCiv compares .
Obviously the graphics are n't there , but after a couple of games that seems less and less important .
The gameplay mechanics are what matters , and I think they work very very well in Civ4 .
And is the AI any good ?
Wikipedia seems to imply that diplomacy is a bit simple.Anybody got " in-depth " experience with both games ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I started playing Civ4 last week for a couple of games -- it runs very well in Wine, incidently -- and I'm wondering how FreeCiv compares.
Obviously the graphics aren't there, but after a couple of games that seems less and less important.
The gameplay mechanics are what matters, and I think they work very very well in Civ4.
And is the AI any good?
Wikipedia seems to imply that diplomacy is a bit simple.Anybody got "in-depth" experience with both games?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30946022</id>
	<title>Opera?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264703580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Where is Opera 10.5 alpha? Would like to see that put up there with the rest.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Where is Opera 10.5 alpha ?
Would like to see that put up there with the rest .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Where is Opera 10.5 alpha?
Would like to see that put up there with the rest.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30948100</id>
	<title>How many decades late?</title>
	<author>Waccoon</author>
	<datestamp>1264772400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr></p><div class="quote"><p>...using the latest HTML5 web standards</p></div><p>Amazing how long it's taken to get a freakin' frame buffer.</p><p>Cue a zillion Web 3.0 marketeers about how the web browser is the OS of the future.  Oh, and the iPad is really keen-o, too.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>...using the latest HTML5 web standardsAmazing how long it 's taken to get a freakin ' frame buffer.Cue a zillion Web 3.0 marketeers about how the web browser is the OS of the future .
Oh , and the iPad is really keen-o , too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> ...using the latest HTML5 web standardsAmazing how long it's taken to get a freakin' frame buffer.Cue a zillion Web 3.0 marketeers about how the web browser is the OS of the future.
Oh, and the iPad is really keen-o, too.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30946550</id>
	<title>Re:Drop IE8</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264795620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It will be by the end of the year, the new look isn't much different than IE7 as far as I've seen, and it comes with the most popular OS on the planet.  Dropping support for IE8 is a most idiotic thing to do, regardless of how shitty it is.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It will be by the end of the year , the new look is n't much different than IE7 as far as I 've seen , and it comes with the most popular OS on the planet .
Dropping support for IE8 is a most idiotic thing to do , regardless of how shitty it is .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It will be by the end of the year, the new look isn't much different than IE7 as far as I've seen, and it comes with the most popular OS on the planet.
Dropping support for IE8 is a most idiotic thing to do, regardless of how shitty it is.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30948182</id>
	<title>Sl-sl-sl-slashvertisement!</title>
	<author>RichiH</author>
	<datestamp>1264773180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That being said, it's FreeCiv! Of course I signed up.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That being said , it 's FreeCiv !
Of course I signed up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That being said, it's FreeCiv!
Of course I signed up.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30947424</id>
	<title>Re:Drop IE8</title>
	<author>dbIII</author>
	<datestamp>1264762980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>The problem is not the "corporate IT guy".  Instead it's the lazy developers that insist that their product of 2010 will only work on IE6 running as Admin with three different versions of dotnet.  I wish these MS Windows application developers would actually learn about the platform they develop for instead of thinking it's still MSDOS with no network.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The problem is not the " corporate IT guy " .
Instead it 's the lazy developers that insist that their product of 2010 will only work on IE6 running as Admin with three different versions of dotnet .
I wish these MS Windows application developers would actually learn about the platform they develop for instead of thinking it 's still MSDOS with no network .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The problem is not the "corporate IT guy".
Instead it's the lazy developers that insist that their product of 2010 will only work on IE6 running as Admin with three different versions of dotnet.
I wish these MS Windows application developers would actually learn about the platform they develop for instead of thinking it's still MSDOS with no network.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_29_0323200.30948050</id>
	<title>Re:Drop IE8</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264772160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can't wait to upgrade to IE7 (or anything Firefox or even Chrome) at work...  I'm stuck on IE6 SP2 (SP2 shipped in 2004), yay!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I ca n't wait to upgrade to IE7 ( or anything Firefox or even Chrome ) at work... I 'm stuck on IE6 SP2 ( SP2 shipped in 2004 ) , yay !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can't wait to upgrade to IE7 (or anything Firefox or even Chrome) at work...  I'm stuck on IE6 SP2 (SP2 shipped in 2004), yay!</sentencetext>
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