<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_01_28_1823211</id>
	<title>With New SDK, VoIP Over 3G Apps Now Working On iPhone</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1264704240000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>silverpig writes <i>"Yesterday marked the announcement of the Apple iPad device, and with it came a new version of the SDK. In this new version, Apple has <a href="http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/27/apple-lifts-voip-over-cellular-restrictions-in-new-iphone-sdk/">lifted the VoIP over 3G restrictions</a> that limited VoIP traffic to wifi only. This morning, <a href="http://www.fring.com/blog/?p=1983">Fring announced</a> that its iPhone app is 3G-capable starting immediately. No update is needed as apparently the app had 3G capability all along, but a server-side block prevented its use. Furthermore, apparently a <a href="http://www.wifitalk.ca/iphone/skype-updates-3g-ready-and-waiting/">3G-capable version of Skype</a> has been ready for some time now, and has been waiting for this restriction to be lifted."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>silverpig writes " Yesterday marked the announcement of the Apple iPad device , and with it came a new version of the SDK .
In this new version , Apple has lifted the VoIP over 3G restrictions that limited VoIP traffic to wifi only .
This morning , Fring announced that its iPhone app is 3G-capable starting immediately .
No update is needed as apparently the app had 3G capability all along , but a server-side block prevented its use .
Furthermore , apparently a 3G-capable version of Skype has been ready for some time now , and has been waiting for this restriction to be lifted .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>silverpig writes "Yesterday marked the announcement of the Apple iPad device, and with it came a new version of the SDK.
In this new version, Apple has lifted the VoIP over 3G restrictions that limited VoIP traffic to wifi only.
This morning, Fring announced that its iPhone app is 3G-capable starting immediately.
No update is needed as apparently the app had 3G capability all along, but a server-side block prevented its use.
Furthermore, apparently a 3G-capable version of Skype has been ready for some time now, and has been waiting for this restriction to be lifted.
"</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30938504</id>
	<title>While we're at it... (other bluetooth profiles).</title>
	<author>weston</author>
	<datestamp>1264709040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>When is the iPhone getting that? The iPad can use a bluetooth keyboard, but the iPhone can't? What kind of crap is this?</i></p><p>And while we're at it.... why not bluetooth syncing (with SYNCH, FTP, &amp; OBEX), DUN for the touch and iPad, BPP (printing), and Audio/Video Remote Control Profile (AVRCP)?</p><p>This isn't just an Apple problem, by the way. This is an industry-wide problem right now: "bluetooth" means a lot of things and most of the market doesn't seem to care to specify what. The BSIG ought to require those using the Bluetooth logo to specify <em>which profiles</em> a device supports, for the sake of consumer awareness and market pressure.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When is the iPhone getting that ?
The iPad can use a bluetooth keyboard , but the iPhone ca n't ?
What kind of crap is this ? And while we 're at it.... why not bluetooth syncing ( with SYNCH , FTP , &amp; OBEX ) , DUN for the touch and iPad , BPP ( printing ) , and Audio/Video Remote Control Profile ( AVRCP ) ? This is n't just an Apple problem , by the way .
This is an industry-wide problem right now : " bluetooth " means a lot of things and most of the market does n't seem to care to specify what .
The BSIG ought to require those using the Bluetooth logo to specify which profiles a device supports , for the sake of consumer awareness and market pressure .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When is the iPhone getting that?
The iPad can use a bluetooth keyboard, but the iPhone can't?
What kind of crap is this?And while we're at it.... why not bluetooth syncing (with SYNCH, FTP, &amp; OBEX), DUN for the touch and iPad, BPP (printing), and Audio/Video Remote Control Profile (AVRCP)?This isn't just an Apple problem, by the way.
This is an industry-wide problem right now: "bluetooth" means a lot of things and most of the market doesn't seem to care to specify what.
The BSIG ought to require those using the Bluetooth logo to specify which profiles a device supports, for the sake of consumer awareness and market pressure.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30938242</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30941664</id>
	<title>Re:Interesting</title>
	<author>Swift2001</author>
	<datestamp>1264674840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's a data-only connection. I'm presuming that means Skype is okay, though.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's a data-only connection .
I 'm presuming that means Skype is okay , though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's a data-only connection.
I'm presuming that means Skype is okay, though.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30938156</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30952312</id>
	<title>Re:SDK version 3.2 only? Skype not updated yet...</title>
	<author>yabos</author>
	<datestamp>1264791360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's not the SDK, it's the new SDK Agreement which has now changed.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not the SDK , it 's the new SDK Agreement which has now changed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not the SDK, it's the new SDK Agreement which has now changed.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30939226</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30940888</id>
	<title>Skreeky app with voip</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264672380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Our app has been available in app store for a while. Is is a kind of voip app. Was that not really allowed?<br>Johan - developer</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Our app has been available in app store for a while .
Is is a kind of voip app .
Was that not really allowed ? Johan - developer</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Our app has been available in app store for a while.
Is is a kind of voip app.
Was that not really allowed?Johan - developer</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30938256</id>
	<title>My understanding....</title>
	<author>ducomputergeek</author>
	<datestamp>1264708380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>was that there was never a technical problem with this, but it was the face that ATT didn't want people to use VOIP over 3G because it competed with their voice offerings.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>was that there was never a technical problem with this , but it was the face that ATT did n't want people to use VOIP over 3G because it competed with their voice offerings .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>was that there was never a technical problem with this, but it was the face that ATT didn't want people to use VOIP over 3G because it competed with their voice offerings.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30938074</id>
	<title>All markets?</title>
	<author>BadAnalogyGuy</author>
	<datestamp>1264708020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's nice to have this enabled finally. However, the mention that this is something blocked on the server side makes me wonder if this may only be relevant to specific markets.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's nice to have this enabled finally .
However , the mention that this is something blocked on the server side makes me wonder if this may only be relevant to specific markets .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's nice to have this enabled finally.
However, the mention that this is something blocked on the server side makes me wonder if this may only be relevant to specific markets.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30938112</id>
	<title>I'm not special anymore</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264708140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One of the best parts about my iPhone being jailbroken was that little hack that let you use VOIP over 3g.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One of the best parts about my iPhone being jailbroken was that little hack that let you use VOIP over 3g .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One of the best parts about my iPhone being jailbroken was that little hack that let you use VOIP over 3g.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30938700</id>
	<title>What about multitasking?</title>
	<author>itsme1234</author>
	<datestamp>1264709460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I assume multitasking is still missing so how's skype/fring going to work? "Call me so I can log in"? "While in a skype call - let me log out, I need to check this links/mail/etc?"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I assume multitasking is still missing so how 's skype/fring going to work ?
" Call me so I can log in " ?
" While in a skype call - let me log out , I need to check this links/mail/etc ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I assume multitasking is still missing so how's skype/fring going to work?
"Call me so I can log in"?
"While in a skype call - let me log out, I need to check this links/mail/etc?
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30950142</id>
	<title>Re:I'm not special anymore</title>
	<author>Argilo</author>
	<datestamp>1264783800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>There are still plenty of reasons to jailbreak: high-quality Youtube videos over 3G, video recording on pre-3GS devices, unix utilities, a flashlight app that sets the screen to maximum brightness, the ability to run any C64 game on Manomio's emulator, plenty of apps that aren't available in the app store...</htmltext>
<tokenext>There are still plenty of reasons to jailbreak : high-quality Youtube videos over 3G , video recording on pre-3GS devices , unix utilities , a flashlight app that sets the screen to maximum brightness , the ability to run any C64 game on Manomio 's emulator , plenty of apps that are n't available in the app store.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are still plenty of reasons to jailbreak: high-quality Youtube videos over 3G, video recording on pre-3GS devices, unix utilities, a flashlight app that sets the screen to maximum brightness, the ability to run any C64 game on Manomio's emulator, plenty of apps that aren't available in the app store...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30938112</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30939734</id>
	<title>Re:Interesting</title>
	<author>antifoidulus</author>
	<datestamp>1264712340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So you are essentially aspiring to be <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYLMk8xplqw" title="youtube.com">this guy?</a> [youtube.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>So you are essentially aspiring to be this guy ?
[ youtube.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So you are essentially aspiring to be this guy?
[youtube.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30938156</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30941638</id>
	<title>Re:About time</title>
	<author>Swift2001</author>
	<datestamp>1264674720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>AT&amp;T promised it. We're still waiting.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>AT&amp;T promised it .
We 're still waiting .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>AT&amp;T promised it.
We're still waiting.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30938130</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30939660</id>
	<title>Re:Interesting</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264712040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's too bad you can't purchase an iphone under the same contract as the ipad (that is - no contract, $30/month unlimited data, carrier of your choice, sort of...).  As it stands, the ipad is probably a bit to large to act a phone for most folks.  Perhaps we're seeing the beginning of the end of cellular phone business practices as we know it.  Between this and the 3G announcement for the ipad, it seems like we're one step closer to that utopia of simply paying for a single "dumb" connection for everything.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's too bad you ca n't purchase an iphone under the same contract as the ipad ( that is - no contract , $ 30/month unlimited data , carrier of your choice , sort of... ) .
As it stands , the ipad is probably a bit to large to act a phone for most folks .
Perhaps we 're seeing the beginning of the end of cellular phone business practices as we know it .
Between this and the 3G announcement for the ipad , it seems like we 're one step closer to that utopia of simply paying for a single " dumb " connection for everything .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's too bad you can't purchase an iphone under the same contract as the ipad (that is - no contract, $30/month unlimited data, carrier of your choice, sort of...).
As it stands, the ipad is probably a bit to large to act a phone for most folks.
Perhaps we're seeing the beginning of the end of cellular phone business practices as we know it.
Between this and the 3G announcement for the ipad, it seems like we're one step closer to that utopia of simply paying for a single "dumb" connection for everything.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30938156</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30938242</id>
	<title>Bluetooth Keyboard drivers</title>
	<author>tekrat</author>
	<datestamp>1264708320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When is the iPhone getting that? The iPad can use a bluetooth keyboard, but the iPhone can't? What kind of crap is this?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When is the iPhone getting that ?
The iPad can use a bluetooth keyboard , but the iPhone ca n't ?
What kind of crap is this ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When is the iPhone getting that?
The iPad can use a bluetooth keyboard, but the iPhone can't?
What kind of crap is this?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30945738</id>
	<title>Re:Lifted until?</title>
	<author>Dhalka226</author>
	<datestamp>1264701240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why do you have a problem with that?  The hypothetical person you mentioned just seems to think Apple is evil.  It's quite possible to hate them enough to bitch that it's locked down and then complain they'll probably just lock it back down once they open it up.  The two aren't logically inconsistent.  In fact they go together extremely well.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why do you have a problem with that ?
The hypothetical person you mentioned just seems to think Apple is evil .
It 's quite possible to hate them enough to bitch that it 's locked down and then complain they 'll probably just lock it back down once they open it up .
The two are n't logically inconsistent .
In fact they go together extremely well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why do you have a problem with that?
The hypothetical person you mentioned just seems to think Apple is evil.
It's quite possible to hate them enough to bitch that it's locked down and then complain they'll probably just lock it back down once they open it up.
The two aren't logically inconsistent.
In fact they go together extremely well.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30939196</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30940072</id>
	<title>Re:I'm not special anymore</title>
	<author>Idbar</author>
	<datestamp>1264670220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>How did that worked for you? I just tried Fring with my Asterisk server and the delay is unbearably high (I counted 7 second on my round trip test call), while my X-lite on my computer is less than 1 sec.</htmltext>
<tokenext>How did that worked for you ?
I just tried Fring with my Asterisk server and the delay is unbearably high ( I counted 7 second on my round trip test call ) , while my X-lite on my computer is less than 1 sec .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How did that worked for you?
I just tried Fring with my Asterisk server and the delay is unbearably high (I counted 7 second on my round trip test call), while my X-lite on my computer is less than 1 sec.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30938112</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30939762</id>
	<title>Re:Interesting</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264669200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Right. If that happens, then I think cell providers will be well on their way to becoming dumb pipes.</p></div></blockquote><p>This still doesn't resolve the fact that you're going through THEIR pipes and given the corporate friendly FCC in this decade that decided to roll back regulations, THEY choose how to fuck you over... there are precious few providers, and two of the four use CDMA (which in its current implementation doesn't allow voice+data) while the other two use GSM/HSDPA (which is what's required for the iPad).</p><p>Now the situation in Europe might be different, but that's because their governments mandate standards and interoperability which creates competition.</p><p>In short, without government intervention there is very little hope of avoiding the balkanized price-gouging cell market we have today in the USA.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Right .
If that happens , then I think cell providers will be well on their way to becoming dumb pipes.This still does n't resolve the fact that you 're going through THEIR pipes and given the corporate friendly FCC in this decade that decided to roll back regulations , THEY choose how to fuck you over... there are precious few providers , and two of the four use CDMA ( which in its current implementation does n't allow voice + data ) while the other two use GSM/HSDPA ( which is what 's required for the iPad ) .Now the situation in Europe might be different , but that 's because their governments mandate standards and interoperability which creates competition.In short , without government intervention there is very little hope of avoiding the balkanized price-gouging cell market we have today in the USA .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Right.
If that happens, then I think cell providers will be well on their way to becoming dumb pipes.This still doesn't resolve the fact that you're going through THEIR pipes and given the corporate friendly FCC in this decade that decided to roll back regulations, THEY choose how to fuck you over... there are precious few providers, and two of the four use CDMA (which in its current implementation doesn't allow voice+data) while the other two use GSM/HSDPA (which is what's required for the iPad).Now the situation in Europe might be different, but that's because their governments mandate standards and interoperability which creates competition.In short, without government intervention there is very little hope of avoiding the balkanized price-gouging cell market we have today in the USA.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30938514</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30939196</id>
	<title>Re:Lifted until?</title>
	<author>jo\_ham</author>
	<datestamp>1264710720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wait!</p><p>So, first it's "Apple is evil, it;s so locked down! It sucks! They should open it!", and when they actually do open it up and enable new function that they had previously prevented (for whatever reason) it's "Apple is still evil! They will restrict it again!"</p><p>Which is it?</p><p>Do you want them to remove restrictions or not?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wait ! So , first it 's " Apple is evil , it ; s so locked down !
It sucks !
They should open it !
" , and when they actually do open it up and enable new function that they had previously prevented ( for whatever reason ) it 's " Apple is still evil !
They will restrict it again !
" Which is it ? Do you want them to remove restrictions or not ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wait!So, first it's "Apple is evil, it;s so locked down!
It sucks!
They should open it!
", and when they actually do open it up and enable new function that they had previously prevented (for whatever reason) it's "Apple is still evil!
They will restrict it again!
"Which is it?Do you want them to remove restrictions or not?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30938122</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30940636</id>
	<title>Re:While we're at it... (other bluetooth profiles)</title>
	<author>bar-agent</author>
	<datestamp>1264671780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>The BSIG ought to require those using the Bluetooth logo to specify which profiles a device supports, for the sake of consumer awareness and market pressure.</i></p><p>They <i>have</i> standardized a <a href="http://www.parrot.com/data/usa/press/logos/album\_logos\_us/bluetoothlogos.jpeg" title="parrot.com">series of icons</a> [parrot.com] indicating support for headsets, input devices, file transfer, etc. If you use those icons, you have to be supporting specific profiles.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The BSIG ought to require those using the Bluetooth logo to specify which profiles a device supports , for the sake of consumer awareness and market pressure.They have standardized a series of icons [ parrot.com ] indicating support for headsets , input devices , file transfer , etc .
If you use those icons , you have to be supporting specific profiles .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The BSIG ought to require those using the Bluetooth logo to specify which profiles a device supports, for the sake of consumer awareness and market pressure.They have standardized a series of icons [parrot.com] indicating support for headsets, input devices, file transfer, etc.
If you use those icons, you have to be supporting specific profiles.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30938504</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30938554</id>
	<title>AT&amp;T has allowed VoIP on 3G network since Oct</title>
	<author>daveschroeder</author>
	<datestamp>1264709160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/atandt-now-allowing-iphone-voip-calls-over-3g/" title="engadget.com">AT&amp;T now allowing iPhone VoIP calls over 3G</a> [engadget.com]</p><p><a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/10/06/att-greenlights-voip-for-the-iphone-too-bad-google-voice-isnt-voip/" title="techcrunch.com">AT&amp;T Greenlights VoIP For the iPhone</a> [techcrunch.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>AT&amp;T now allowing iPhone VoIP calls over 3G [ engadget.com ] AT&amp;T Greenlights VoIP For the iPhone [ techcrunch.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>AT&amp;T now allowing iPhone VoIP calls over 3G [engadget.com]AT&amp;T Greenlights VoIP For the iPhone [techcrunch.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30943214</id>
	<title>Re:Lifted until?</title>
	<author>mgblst</author>
	<datestamp>1264680660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I know, it has to be one of the other. The world is Black or White, Good and Bad. There has to be GOOD or BAD.</p><p>There is a serious problem with people who think like this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I know , it has to be one of the other .
The world is Black or White , Good and Bad .
There has to be GOOD or BAD.There is a serious problem with people who think like this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know, it has to be one of the other.
The world is Black or White, Good and Bad.
There has to be GOOD or BAD.There is a serious problem with people who think like this.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30939196</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30938156</id>
	<title>Interesting</title>
	<author>whisper\_jeff</author>
	<datestamp>1264708140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Bluetooth headset, iPad, 3G connection. Ding!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Bluetooth headset , iPad , 3G connection .
Ding !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bluetooth headset, iPad, 3G connection.
Ding!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30940374</id>
	<title>Re:Maybe someone can fill me in here</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264671060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>$0.02/min to China</p></div><p>That is the same as<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.02 cents right?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>$ 0.02/min to ChinaThat is the same as .02 cents right ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>$0.02/min to ChinaThat is the same as .02 cents right?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30939204</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30938802</id>
	<title>Re:Maybe someone can fill me in here</title>
	<author>cheesewire</author>
	<datestamp>1264709640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For one, Skype-to-Skype calls are free...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For one , Skype-to-Skype calls are free.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For one, Skype-to-Skype calls are free...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30938584</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30939110</id>
	<title>Re:About time</title>
	<author>peragrin</author>
	<datestamp>1264710480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You can tether with AT&amp;T now the trick is they charge you an extra $20 a month. So if you are a poor AT&amp;T customer your still SOL.</p><p>Indeed with the random variabilty of AT&amp;T network speeds and latency why any would want voip over 3G is beyond me. As for verizon well their network is 3G in technology only. It has massive sections that can barely handle voice let alone data.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You can tether with AT&amp;T now the trick is they charge you an extra $ 20 a month .
So if you are a poor AT&amp;T customer your still SOL.Indeed with the random variabilty of AT&amp;T network speeds and latency why any would want voip over 3G is beyond me .
As for verizon well their network is 3G in technology only .
It has massive sections that can barely handle voice let alone data .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can tether with AT&amp;T now the trick is they charge you an extra $20 a month.
So if you are a poor AT&amp;T customer your still SOL.Indeed with the random variabilty of AT&amp;T network speeds and latency why any would want voip over 3G is beyond me.
As for verizon well their network is 3G in technology only.
It has massive sections that can barely handle voice let alone data.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30938130</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30938996</id>
	<title>in the police state, sorry I mean UK</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264710180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>this has always worked?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>this has always worked ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>this has always worked?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30942880</id>
	<title>Re:Maybe someone can fill me in here</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264679100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is that 0.02 dollars, or 0.02 cents?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is that 0.02 dollars , or 0.02 cents ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is that 0.02 dollars, or 0.02 cents?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30939204</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30939214</id>
	<title>Re:What about multitasking?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264710780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1. You jailbreak the ipad or the 3GS, because the 3G is not that good at multi-tasking even with backgrounder.<br>2. Multitask<br>3. ???<br>4. Profit!!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 .
You jailbreak the ipad or the 3GS , because the 3G is not that good at multi-tasking even with backgrounder.2 .
Multitask3. ? ? ? 4 .
Profit ! ! !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1.
You jailbreak the ipad or the 3GS, because the 3G is not that good at multi-tasking even with backgrounder.2.
Multitask3. ???4.
Profit!!!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30938700</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30938524</id>
	<title>Re:Beginning of the end of telephony?</title>
	<author>slimjim8094</author>
	<datestamp>1264709100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oh God I hope so. It goes great with VoIP on the home-line side.</p><p>Why should there be a marginal cost to a phone call? There isn't - once you're paying for the infrastructure, it's free.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh God I hope so .
It goes great with VoIP on the home-line side.Why should there be a marginal cost to a phone call ?
There is n't - once you 're paying for the infrastructure , it 's free .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh God I hope so.
It goes great with VoIP on the home-line side.Why should there be a marginal cost to a phone call?
There isn't - once you're paying for the infrastructure, it's free.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30938352</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30938474</id>
	<title>Re:Bluetooth Keyboard drivers</title>
	<author>slimjim8094</author>
	<datestamp>1264708980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Alternative Bluetooth stacks are in the works for jailbroken phones. They already have file-sending working, and presumably Bluetooth HID are next.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Alternative Bluetooth stacks are in the works for jailbroken phones .
They already have file-sending working , and presumably Bluetooth HID are next .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Alternative Bluetooth stacks are in the works for jailbroken phones.
They already have file-sending working, and presumably Bluetooth HID are next.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30938242</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30938122</id>
	<title>Lifted until?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264708140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Until Apple decides that they should be put back.  Then anyone who thought VOIP was a good idea is SOL again.  Vender lock-in for applications sucks.  Apple should be shamed for trying to port this model to the iPad.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Until Apple decides that they should be put back .
Then anyone who thought VOIP was a good idea is SOL again .
Vender lock-in for applications sucks .
Apple should be shamed for trying to port this model to the iPad .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Until Apple decides that they should be put back.
Then anyone who thought VOIP was a good idea is SOL again.
Vender lock-in for applications sucks.
Apple should be shamed for trying to port this model to the iPad.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30943588</id>
	<title>Because...</title>
	<author>weston</author>
	<datestamp>1264682820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Why should there be a marginal cost to a phone call? There isn't - once you're paying for the infrastructure, it's free.</i></p><p>Costs of maintaining and more importantly expanding the capacity of the infrastructure are directly tied to usage, though: each call connected goes through at the opportunity cost of another potential phone call. Having some kind of economic feedback go through the system based on usage makes a certain amount of sense.</p><p>Of course, nobody likes being on the meter all the time, particularly if costs for small uses of service are large (SMS, anyone?), or if costs go up dramatically with even marginal overuse (overage charges are pretty much usurious).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why should there be a marginal cost to a phone call ?
There is n't - once you 're paying for the infrastructure , it 's free.Costs of maintaining and more importantly expanding the capacity of the infrastructure are directly tied to usage , though : each call connected goes through at the opportunity cost of another potential phone call .
Having some kind of economic feedback go through the system based on usage makes a certain amount of sense.Of course , nobody likes being on the meter all the time , particularly if costs for small uses of service are large ( SMS , anyone ?
) , or if costs go up dramatically with even marginal overuse ( overage charges are pretty much usurious ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why should there be a marginal cost to a phone call?
There isn't - once you're paying for the infrastructure, it's free.Costs of maintaining and more importantly expanding the capacity of the infrastructure are directly tied to usage, though: each call connected goes through at the opportunity cost of another potential phone call.
Having some kind of economic feedback go through the system based on usage makes a certain amount of sense.Of course, nobody likes being on the meter all the time, particularly if costs for small uses of service are large (SMS, anyone?
), or if costs go up dramatically with even marginal overuse (overage charges are pretty much usurious).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30938524</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30939794</id>
	<title>Google Voice?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264669320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Does this mean a return of Google Voice as an official iPhone app?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does this mean a return of Google Voice as an official iPhone app ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does this mean a return of Google Voice as an official iPhone app?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30939144</id>
	<title>Really?</title>
	<author>LockeOnLogic</author>
	<datestamp>1264710600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Uhh, people like free stuff</htmltext>
<tokenext>Uhh , people like free stuff</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Uhh, people like free stuff</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30938584</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30938352</id>
	<title>Beginning of the end of telephony?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264708620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>This could mean the beginning of the end of traditional telephony, ie. mobile carriers will soon simply become ISPs with no one using its voice/SMS/MMS services.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This could mean the beginning of the end of traditional telephony , ie .
mobile carriers will soon simply become ISPs with no one using its voice/SMS/MMS services .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This could mean the beginning of the end of traditional telephony, ie.
mobile carriers will soon simply become ISPs with no one using its voice/SMS/MMS services.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30938654</id>
	<title>Re:About time</title>
	<author>Anonymusing</author>
	<datestamp>1264709400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hear, hear.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hear , hear .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hear, hear.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30938130</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30939606</id>
	<title>data-only plan?</title>
	<author>farble1670</author>
	<datestamp>1264711860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>is there such a thing as a data only plan w/ AT&amp;T? how about other carriers?</p><p>i rarely talk voice on the phone. it sort of irks me that i way $50+ a month for it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>is there such a thing as a data only plan w/ AT&amp;T ?
how about other carriers ? i rarely talk voice on the phone .
it sort of irks me that i way $ 50 + a month for it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>is there such a thing as a data only plan w/ AT&amp;T?
how about other carriers?i rarely talk voice on the phone.
it sort of irks me that i way $50+ a month for it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30941942</id>
	<title>Re:Beginning of the end of telephony?</title>
	<author>DragonWriter</author>
	<datestamp>1264675800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>This could mean the beginning of the end of traditional telephony, ie. mobile carriers will soon simply become ISPs with no one using its voice/SMS/MMS services.</p></div></blockquote><p>Insofar as we are headed that way, that "end" began a long time ago -- long enough that the FCC (as discussed on<nobr> <wbr></nobr><a href="Thiscouldmeanthebeginningoftheendoftraditionaltelephony,ie.mobilecarrierswillsoonsimplybecomeISPswithnooneusingitsvoice/SMS/MMSservices." title="slashdot.org">/.</a> [slashdot.org] last month) is already investigating regulatory approaches to handling the transition from the existing telephone network to a IP-based network.</p><p>Apple allowing VoIP over 3G on iPhone isn't the beginning of <i>that</i> end.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This could mean the beginning of the end of traditional telephony , ie .
mobile carriers will soon simply become ISPs with no one using its voice/SMS/MMS services.Insofar as we are headed that way , that " end " began a long time ago -- long enough that the FCC ( as discussed on / .
[ slashdot.org ] last month ) is already investigating regulatory approaches to handling the transition from the existing telephone network to a IP-based network.Apple allowing VoIP over 3G on iPhone is n't the beginning of that end .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This could mean the beginning of the end of traditional telephony, ie.
mobile carriers will soon simply become ISPs with no one using its voice/SMS/MMS services.Insofar as we are headed that way, that "end" began a long time ago -- long enough that the FCC (as discussed on /.
[slashdot.org] last month) is already investigating regulatory approaches to handling the transition from the existing telephone network to a IP-based network.Apple allowing VoIP over 3G on iPhone isn't the beginning of that end.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30938352</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30943410</id>
	<title>Re:Beginning of the end of telephony?</title>
	<author>mdwh2</author>
	<datestamp>1264681680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>God yes, obviously no one ever did VoIP on a mobile device before Apple allowed it. Now that the less than 5\% of Iphone users can do it, that's the real tipping point!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>God yes , obviously no one ever did VoIP on a mobile device before Apple allowed it .
Now that the less than 5 \ % of Iphone users can do it , that 's the real tipping point !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>God yes, obviously no one ever did VoIP on a mobile device before Apple allowed it.
Now that the less than 5\% of Iphone users can do it, that's the real tipping point!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30938352</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30938130</id>
	<title>About time</title>
	<author>WiiVault</author>
	<datestamp>1264708140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Now where's teathering for us poor AT&amp;T "customers"?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Now where 's teathering for us poor AT&amp;T " customers " ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now where's teathering for us poor AT&amp;T "customers"?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30940550</id>
	<title>Vonage on the ball</title>
	<author>Alerius</author>
	<datestamp>1264671540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Last night I saw an ad for Vonage on the iPhone, advertising that you can use the Vonage VOIP service on your iPhone now. To have not only the app ready to go but the TV ad as well took some lead time I should think. Developers certainly knew this was coming.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Last night I saw an ad for Vonage on the iPhone , advertising that you can use the Vonage VOIP service on your iPhone now .
To have not only the app ready to go but the TV ad as well took some lead time I should think .
Developers certainly knew this was coming .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Last night I saw an ad for Vonage on the iPhone, advertising that you can use the Vonage VOIP service on your iPhone now.
To have not only the app ready to go but the TV ad as well took some lead time I should think.
Developers certainly knew this was coming.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30939226</id>
	<title>SDK version 3.2 only? Skype not updated yet...</title>
	<author>mario\_grgic</author>
	<datestamp>1264710840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This restriction is lifted in SDK 3.2 for iPad, and it's not certain that it will be available on the iPhone. Also, as of now Skype does not have app for iPhone that is 3G enable in the app store.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This restriction is lifted in SDK 3.2 for iPad , and it 's not certain that it will be available on the iPhone .
Also , as of now Skype does not have app for iPhone that is 3G enable in the app store .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This restriction is lifted in SDK 3.2 for iPad, and it's not certain that it will be available on the iPhone.
Also, as of now Skype does not have app for iPhone that is 3G enable in the app store.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30938298</id>
	<title>Fring No worky</title>
	<author>MicahEli</author>
	<datestamp>1264708440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Still getting "fring calls only available on WiFi." message.   Perhaps this will take a little time to roll out?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Still getting " fring calls only available on WiFi .
" message .
Perhaps this will take a little time to roll out ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Still getting "fring calls only available on WiFi.
" message.
Perhaps this will take a little time to roll out?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30938584</id>
	<title>Maybe someone can fill me in here</title>
	<author>bigredradio</author>
	<datestamp>1264709220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So, you can now make VOIP calls using your AT&amp;T 3G network (which is dodgy) using your PHONE! Here is an idea. Why not use the phone part of your phone to make calls?

If you use skype or whatever to call your friends and family in [insert distant country], then I see a use. But my calling circle is mostly local. Sounds interesting but will anyone use it?</htmltext>
<tokenext>So , you can now make VOIP calls using your AT&amp;T 3G network ( which is dodgy ) using your PHONE !
Here is an idea .
Why not use the phone part of your phone to make calls ?
If you use skype or whatever to call your friends and family in [ insert distant country ] , then I see a use .
But my calling circle is mostly local .
Sounds interesting but will anyone use it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, you can now make VOIP calls using your AT&amp;T 3G network (which is dodgy) using your PHONE!
Here is an idea.
Why not use the phone part of your phone to make calls?
If you use skype or whatever to call your friends and family in [insert distant country], then I see a use.
But my calling circle is mostly local.
Sounds interesting but will anyone use it?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30947140</id>
	<title>Too Little, Too Late, AT&amp;T</title>
	<author>longbot</author>
	<datestamp>1264759080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Am I the only one who's seeing this as a desperate attempt by AT&amp;T to keep iPhone owners loyal to them out of "good will" for not being so locked down once the iPhone is available on Verizon's network?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Am I the only one who 's seeing this as a desperate attempt by AT&amp;T to keep iPhone owners loyal to them out of " good will " for not being so locked down once the iPhone is available on Verizon 's network ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Am I the only one who's seeing this as a desperate attempt by AT&amp;T to keep iPhone owners loyal to them out of "good will" for not being so locked down once the iPhone is available on Verizon's network?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30939716</id>
	<title>Does this mean a Google Voice app is on the way?</title>
	<author>phatjew</author>
	<datestamp>1264712280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Since AT&amp;T and now (apparently) Apple seem to be more flexible re: VOIP, do you think Apple will allow a GV app on the iPhone now?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Since AT&amp;T and now ( apparently ) Apple seem to be more flexible re : VOIP , do you think Apple will allow a GV app on the iPhone now ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since AT&amp;T and now (apparently) Apple seem to be more flexible re: VOIP, do you think Apple will allow a GV app on the iPhone now?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30944558</id>
	<title>Skype my gf in 3D!!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264689000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>oh 3G...</p><p>Damm, why do <i>I</i> always have to think of the good stuff?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>oh 3G...Damm , why do I always have to think of the good stuff ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>oh 3G...Damm, why do I always have to think of the good stuff?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30939304</id>
	<title>Re:What about multitasking?</title>
	<author>Rich0</author>
	<datestamp>1264711020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I assume that unlike android that an app can't intercept SMS messages?</p><p>On android even with single-tasking there is an easy way around this issue.  Just have your app bind into the SMS interface and look for messages with a unique code in them (sent by Skype).  When that message is received the app would launch and connect to the Skype servers to find out what is going on and display an incoming call.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I assume that unlike android that an app ca n't intercept SMS messages ? On android even with single-tasking there is an easy way around this issue .
Just have your app bind into the SMS interface and look for messages with a unique code in them ( sent by Skype ) .
When that message is received the app would launch and connect to the Skype servers to find out what is going on and display an incoming call .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I assume that unlike android that an app can't intercept SMS messages?On android even with single-tasking there is an easy way around this issue.
Just have your app bind into the SMS interface and look for messages with a unique code in them (sent by Skype).
When that message is received the app would launch and connect to the Skype servers to find out what is going on and display an incoming call.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30938700</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30939004</id>
	<title>iCall over 3g IS HORRIBLE</title>
	<author>L3370</author>
	<datestamp>1264710180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have tested one VOIP app named iCall Free voip. TERRIBLE over 3g. So far success of connection over 3G is less than 25\% for me. And of that 25\%, I have yet to have a placed call last more than 5 seconds before lagging out.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have tested one VOIP app named iCall Free voip .
TERRIBLE over 3g .
So far success of connection over 3G is less than 25 \ % for me .
And of that 25 \ % , I have yet to have a placed call last more than 5 seconds before lagging out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have tested one VOIP app named iCall Free voip.
TERRIBLE over 3g.
So far success of connection over 3G is less than 25\% for me.
And of that 25\%, I have yet to have a placed call last more than 5 seconds before lagging out.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30939204</id>
	<title>Re:Maybe someone can fill me in here</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264710720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>$0.02/min to China, as opposed to $3/min.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>$ 0.02/min to China , as opposed to $ 3/min .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>$0.02/min to China, as opposed to $3/min.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30938198</id>
	<title>whirling down the drain</title>
	<author>digitalsushi</author>
	<datestamp>1264708260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>it's like blowing a drain out at the bottom of a swamp with TNT.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>it 's like blowing a drain out at the bottom of a swamp with TNT .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>it's like blowing a drain out at the bottom of a swamp with TNT.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30939402</id>
	<title>Re:What about multitasking?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264711260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think the skype server can send a notification to the iPhone, the user open the notification then it starts skype to finish the connection, ugly for my taste but doable. IIRC multitasking is allowed for Apple applications, so you can have the browser and Skype running at the same time, but if you need to write something on a third party application while on skype, you sure will lost the call</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think the skype server can send a notification to the iPhone , the user open the notification then it starts skype to finish the connection , ugly for my taste but doable .
IIRC multitasking is allowed for Apple applications , so you can have the browser and Skype running at the same time , but if you need to write something on a third party application while on skype , you sure will lost the call</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think the skype server can send a notification to the iPhone, the user open the notification then it starts skype to finish the connection, ugly for my taste but doable.
IIRC multitasking is allowed for Apple applications, so you can have the browser and Skype running at the same time, but if you need to write something on a third party application while on skype, you sure will lost the call</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30939270</id>
	<title>Re:What about multitasking?</title>
	<author>jgtg32a</author>
	<datestamp>1264710900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just hold down the Home button to activate background mode.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just hold down the Home button to activate background mode .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just hold down the Home button to activate background mode.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30942694</id>
	<title>Re:Does this mean a Google Voice app is on the way</title>
	<author>DragonWriter</author>
	<datestamp>1264678440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Since AT&amp;T and now (apparently) Apple seem to be more flexible re: VOIP, do you think Apple will allow a GV app on the iPhone now?</p></div></blockquote><p>Since Google Voice is not, and never has been, a VoIP service, I can't imagine this would have any effect.</p><p>Further, since they now have an HTML5 web-based app that does pretty much everything you'd want out of a Google Voice app, I'm not sure there is much need for such an app.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Since AT&amp;T and now ( apparently ) Apple seem to be more flexible re : VOIP , do you think Apple will allow a GV app on the iPhone now ? Since Google Voice is not , and never has been , a VoIP service , I ca n't imagine this would have any effect.Further , since they now have an HTML5 web-based app that does pretty much everything you 'd want out of a Google Voice app , I 'm not sure there is much need for such an app .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since AT&amp;T and now (apparently) Apple seem to be more flexible re: VOIP, do you think Apple will allow a GV app on the iPhone now?Since Google Voice is not, and never has been, a VoIP service, I can't imagine this would have any effect.Further, since they now have an HTML5 web-based app that does pretty much everything you'd want out of a Google Voice app, I'm not sure there is much need for such an app.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30940336</id>
	<title>Re:Maybe someone can fill me in here</title>
	<author>ceoyoyo</author>
	<datestamp>1264670940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For $30 I have 6 GB of data transfer a month - way more than I can hope to use on the phone.  For $35/month I have 100 minutes of anytime voice.  See why I might want to use VOIP, even for local calls?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For $ 30 I have 6 GB of data transfer a month - way more than I can hope to use on the phone .
For $ 35/month I have 100 minutes of anytime voice .
See why I might want to use VOIP , even for local calls ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For $30 I have 6 GB of data transfer a month - way more than I can hope to use on the phone.
For $35/month I have 100 minutes of anytime voice.
See why I might want to use VOIP, even for local calls?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30944122</id>
	<title>What I think</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264686000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>3G Unrestrictor will allow an iPhone to use Skype/Fring/Whatever over 3G. The iPhone already has excellent multitaking, it's just Springboard that doesn't do it. The terrible/completely missing support for BlueTooth and Java (even J2ME) on the iPhone is an everyday pain. If the iPad is just a big iPhone/iPod Touch I don't think it will be as popular, something that big really needs stuff like SD and USB slots, Video out, etc. If it doesn't it will look pretty stupid when it's next to a MacMini. I find it hilarious that the iPad will use an ARM and not an Atom yet there is no POWERPC 8 PowerMac.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>3G Unrestrictor will allow an iPhone to use Skype/Fring/Whatever over 3G .
The iPhone already has excellent multitaking , it 's just Springboard that does n't do it .
The terrible/completely missing support for BlueTooth and Java ( even J2ME ) on the iPhone is an everyday pain .
If the iPad is just a big iPhone/iPod Touch I do n't think it will be as popular , something that big really needs stuff like SD and USB slots , Video out , etc .
If it does n't it will look pretty stupid when it 's next to a MacMini .
I find it hilarious that the iPad will use an ARM and not an Atom yet there is no POWERPC 8 PowerMac .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>3G Unrestrictor will allow an iPhone to use Skype/Fring/Whatever over 3G.
The iPhone already has excellent multitaking, it's just Springboard that doesn't do it.
The terrible/completely missing support for BlueTooth and Java (even J2ME) on the iPhone is an everyday pain.
If the iPad is just a big iPhone/iPod Touch I don't think it will be as popular, something that big really needs stuff like SD and USB slots, Video out, etc.
If it doesn't it will look pretty stupid when it's next to a MacMini.
I find it hilarious that the iPad will use an ARM and not an Atom yet there is no POWERPC 8 PowerMac.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30944258</id>
	<title>Re:All markets?</title>
	<author>kimvette</author>
	<datestamp>1264687020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Now that AT&amp;T is allowing this traffic over their network I don't want them to be whining about bandwidth usage - especially when the line item on the bill is "UNLIMITED DATA"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now that AT&amp;T is allowing this traffic over their network I do n't want them to be whining about bandwidth usage - especially when the line item on the bill is " UNLIMITED DATA "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now that AT&amp;T is allowing this traffic over their network I don't want them to be whining about bandwidth usage - especially when the line item on the bill is "UNLIMITED DATA"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30938758</id>
	<title>Re:All markets?</title>
	<author>jgagnon</author>
	<datestamp>1264709580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I suspect that people will more fully understand how it affects them when they look at their next bill.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</htmltext>
<tokenext>I suspect that people will more fully understand how it affects them when they look at their next bill .
; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I suspect that people will more fully understand how it affects them when they look at their next bill.
;)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30942636</id>
	<title>Re:Beginning of the end of telephony?</title>
	<author>BitZtream</author>
	<datestamp>1264678260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>VoIP service sucks everywhere.</p><p>I'm sorry to break it too you, but I can tell every god damn time I talk to someone on VoIP if the call has any length to it at all. I've got to the point where if you call me from a VoIP line and I realize it, I'll hang up and block your number.  Keep your shitty cheap ass phone service to yourself.  If you can't afford to make a phone call, don't make it, at least not to me.</p><p>Current VoIP offerings suck ass, cheap or not.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>VoIP service sucks everywhere.I 'm sorry to break it too you , but I can tell every god damn time I talk to someone on VoIP if the call has any length to it at all .
I 've got to the point where if you call me from a VoIP line and I realize it , I 'll hang up and block your number .
Keep your shitty cheap ass phone service to yourself .
If you ca n't afford to make a phone call , do n't make it , at least not to me.Current VoIP offerings suck ass , cheap or not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>VoIP service sucks everywhere.I'm sorry to break it too you, but I can tell every god damn time I talk to someone on VoIP if the call has any length to it at all.
I've got to the point where if you call me from a VoIP line and I realize it, I'll hang up and block your number.
Keep your shitty cheap ass phone service to yourself.
If you can't afford to make a phone call, don't make it, at least not to me.Current VoIP offerings suck ass, cheap or not.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30938524</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30940460</id>
	<title>Re:Maybe someone can fill me in here</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264671300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>

$0.02/min to China, as opposed to $3/min.
</i> <br>
<br>
Just do what our government does -- have them add it to the tab. It's not like they're expecting us to ever pay it back anyways.</htmltext>
<tokenext>$ 0.02/min to China , as opposed to $ 3/min .
Just do what our government does -- have them add it to the tab .
It 's not like they 're expecting us to ever pay it back anyways .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>

$0.02/min to China, as opposed to $3/min.
Just do what our government does -- have them add it to the tab.
It's not like they're expecting us to ever pay it back anyways.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30939204</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30945282</id>
	<title>finally</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264695420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>the world becomes wi-fi super antenna<br>and NOT telco oper</p><p>think about that</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>the world becomes wi-fi super antennaand NOT telco operthink about that</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the world becomes wi-fi super antennaand NOT telco operthink about that</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30938514</id>
	<title>Re:Interesting</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264709040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Right.  If that happens, then I think cell providers will be well on their way to becoming dumb pipes.  I'm sure they don't like the idea, but it's the right way to go.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Right .
If that happens , then I think cell providers will be well on their way to becoming dumb pipes .
I 'm sure they do n't like the idea , but it 's the right way to go .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Right.
If that happens, then I think cell providers will be well on their way to becoming dumb pipes.
I'm sure they don't like the idea, but it's the right way to go.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30944378</id>
	<title>Re:Lifted until?</title>
	<author>jisatsusha</author>
	<datestamp>1264687920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They'll continue to be evil until they stop requiring all apps to be signed by Apple before you can install them.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They 'll continue to be evil until they stop requiring all apps to be signed by Apple before you can install them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They'll continue to be evil until they stop requiring all apps to be signed by Apple before you can install them.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30940320</id>
	<title>Re:What about multitasking?</title>
	<author>MrEkted</author>
	<datestamp>1264670940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Fring / Skype / etc. can pop up a dialog when you get a call or SMS as long as you enable Push notifications.<br>
As of <a href="http://www.fring.com/blog/?p=1299" title="fring.com" rel="nofollow">last July for Fring</a> [fring.com] <br>
and <a href="http://share.skype.com/sites/en/2009/09/skype\_for\_iphone\_1\_2.html" title="skype.com" rel="nofollow">September for Skype.</a> [skype.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Fring / Skype / etc .
can pop up a dialog when you get a call or SMS as long as you enable Push notifications .
As of last July for Fring [ fring.com ] and September for Skype .
[ skype.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Fring / Skype / etc.
can pop up a dialog when you get a call or SMS as long as you enable Push notifications.
As of last July for Fring [fring.com] 
and September for Skype.
[skype.com]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_28_1823211.30945244</id>
	<title>Re:Lifted until?</title>
	<author>zobier</author>
	<datestamp>1264694940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Apple aren't evil per se, they're a corporation. If people don't like their products they're free to not buy them, hack them, make their own, or bitch and moan. Hardware I buy is \_my\_ hardware however, (unless I sign some contract waiving my property rights) and I'll do whatever the fuck I want to with it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apple are n't evil per se , they 're a corporation .
If people do n't like their products they 're free to not buy them , hack them , make their own , or bitch and moan .
Hardware I buy is \ _my \ _ hardware however , ( unless I sign some contract waiving my property rights ) and I 'll do whatever the fuck I want to with it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apple aren't evil per se, they're a corporation.
If people don't like their products they're free to not buy them, hack them, make their own, or bitch and moan.
Hardware I buy is \_my\_ hardware however, (unless I sign some contract waiving my property rights) and I'll do whatever the fuck I want to with it.</sentencetext>
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