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	<title>PlayStation 3 Hack Released Online</title>
	<author>Soulskill</author>
	<datestamp>1264607820000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>itwbennett writes <i>"On Friday, George Hotz, best known for cracking Apple's iPhone, said he had managed to <a href="http://slashdot.org/story/10/01/25/0654253/PS3-Hacked">hack the PlayStation 3</a> after five weeks of work with '<a href="http://www.itworld.com/personal-tech/94293/playstation-3-hack-released-online">very simple hardware cleverly applied</a>, and some not so simple software.' Days later, <a href="http://geohotps3.blogspot.com/2010/01/heres-your-silver-platter.html">he has now released the exploit</a>, saying in a blog post that he wanted to see what others could do with it. 'Hopefully, this will ignite the PS3 scene, and you will organize and figure out how to use this to do practical things, like the iPhone when jailbreaks were first released,' he wrote. 'I have a life to get back to and can't keep working on this all day and night.'"</i>
Reader MBCook points out an article written by Nate Lawson "explaining <a href="http://rdist.root.org/2010/01/27/how-the-ps3-hypervisor-was-hacked/">how the hack bypasses the hypervisor</a> to gain unrestricted access to memory. It seems the trick is to use a pulse to glitch the hypervisor while it's unmapping memory, leaving a favorable page table entry."</htmltext>
<tokenext>itwbennett writes " On Friday , George Hotz , best known for cracking Apple 's iPhone , said he had managed to hack the PlayStation 3 after five weeks of work with 'very simple hardware cleverly applied , and some not so simple software .
' Days later , he has now released the exploit , saying in a blog post that he wanted to see what others could do with it .
'Hopefully , this will ignite the PS3 scene , and you will organize and figure out how to use this to do practical things , like the iPhone when jailbreaks were first released, ' he wrote .
'I have a life to get back to and ca n't keep working on this all day and night .
' " Reader MBCook points out an article written by Nate Lawson " explaining how the hack bypasses the hypervisor to gain unrestricted access to memory .
It seems the trick is to use a pulse to glitch the hypervisor while it 's unmapping memory , leaving a favorable page table entry .
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<sentencetext>itwbennett writes "On Friday, George Hotz, best known for cracking Apple's iPhone, said he had managed to hack the PlayStation 3 after five weeks of work with 'very simple hardware cleverly applied, and some not so simple software.
' Days later, he has now released the exploit, saying in a blog post that he wanted to see what others could do with it.
'Hopefully, this will ignite the PS3 scene, and you will organize and figure out how to use this to do practical things, like the iPhone when jailbreaks were first released,' he wrote.
'I have a life to get back to and can't keep working on this all day and night.
'"
Reader MBCook points out an article written by Nate Lawson "explaining how the hack bypasses the hypervisor to gain unrestricted access to memory.
It seems the trick is to use a pulse to glitch the hypervisor while it's unmapping memory, leaving a favorable page table entry.
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	<title>Re:This guy is a hack, not a hacker.</title>
	<author>canajin56</author>
	<datestamp>1264619160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>There's an illiterate buffoon called "HighGuy" who runs around all of the PS3 forums claiming to have hacked the PS3, but his hacks are always a few weeks from release.  He spits out jargon like j-tags, hello-worlds, grub, linux, ubuntu, but he obviously doesn't know what any of those things are.  He claims to have hacked a CoD4 save game and installed grub in it using Ubuntu, that way when you load the game it will use DOS to boot into whatever code you want.  But, he even admits, he doesn't know any programming so he can't really do much with that, just basic "helloworlds".  Then, right when he was about to release, look, it melts his PS3 chips.  "But I think some soldier and maybe it works again.  But we can't really use this hack it overloads the chips and makes them melt the boards".  Anybody who calls him on his bullshit gets flamed by his legions of fans, plus gets him to threaten to never release it as punishment for doubting him and being jealous of his hacker skills.  Meanwhile, people who make legitimate strides are shat all over by his legion of fans, for ripping him off, "HighGuy was doing this a year ago, poser!"  Just like Mr. AC here<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's an illiterate buffoon called " HighGuy " who runs around all of the PS3 forums claiming to have hacked the PS3 , but his hacks are always a few weeks from release .
He spits out jargon like j-tags , hello-worlds , grub , linux , ubuntu , but he obviously does n't know what any of those things are .
He claims to have hacked a CoD4 save game and installed grub in it using Ubuntu , that way when you load the game it will use DOS to boot into whatever code you want .
But , he even admits , he does n't know any programming so he ca n't really do much with that , just basic " helloworlds " .
Then , right when he was about to release , look , it melts his PS3 chips .
" But I think some soldier and maybe it works again .
But we ca n't really use this hack it overloads the chips and makes them melt the boards " .
Anybody who calls him on his bullshit gets flamed by his legions of fans , plus gets him to threaten to never release it as punishment for doubting him and being jealous of his hacker skills .
Meanwhile , people who make legitimate strides are shat all over by his legion of fans , for ripping him off , " HighGuy was doing this a year ago , poser !
" Just like Mr. AC here ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's an illiterate buffoon called "HighGuy" who runs around all of the PS3 forums claiming to have hacked the PS3, but his hacks are always a few weeks from release.
He spits out jargon like j-tags, hello-worlds, grub, linux, ubuntu, but he obviously doesn't know what any of those things are.
He claims to have hacked a CoD4 save game and installed grub in it using Ubuntu, that way when you load the game it will use DOS to boot into whatever code you want.
But, he even admits, he doesn't know any programming so he can't really do much with that, just basic "helloworlds".
Then, right when he was about to release, look, it melts his PS3 chips.
"But I think some soldier and maybe it works again.
But we can't really use this hack it overloads the chips and makes them melt the boards".
Anybody who calls him on his bullshit gets flamed by his legions of fans, plus gets him to threaten to never release it as punishment for doubting him and being jealous of his hacker skills.
Meanwhile, people who make legitimate strides are shat all over by his legion of fans, for ripping him off, "HighGuy was doing this a year ago, poser!
"  Just like Mr. AC here ;)</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Does this open the floodgates?</title>
	<author>darkmeridian</author>
	<datestamp>1264616700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I know that many PS3 owners use it mostly as a Blu Ray owner but as a gamer, I'm concerned about opening up console platforms. Online PC gaming has been ruined by aimbot, wallhacks, and other cheats. Console gaming so far has been less prone to these hacks because the systems are closed. Whenever a console is hacked, there is a risk that online gaming will suffer from cheaters that make the game unplayable. The Xbox 360 was eventually hacked, but this required a hard hack that allowed these systems to be kept offline so that wasn't a really big deal. (More freedom with hardware WITHOUT hurting gaming! Perfect!) It sounds like the PS3 hack is a softhack, which raises the possibility of aimbots and the like being introduced into online game play. That's not necessarily a good thing for the PS3 as a gaming platform.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I know that many PS3 owners use it mostly as a Blu Ray owner but as a gamer , I 'm concerned about opening up console platforms .
Online PC gaming has been ruined by aimbot , wallhacks , and other cheats .
Console gaming so far has been less prone to these hacks because the systems are closed .
Whenever a console is hacked , there is a risk that online gaming will suffer from cheaters that make the game unplayable .
The Xbox 360 was eventually hacked , but this required a hard hack that allowed these systems to be kept offline so that was n't a really big deal .
( More freedom with hardware WITHOUT hurting gaming !
Perfect ! ) It sounds like the PS3 hack is a softhack , which raises the possibility of aimbots and the like being introduced into online game play .
That 's not necessarily a good thing for the PS3 as a gaming platform .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know that many PS3 owners use it mostly as a Blu Ray owner but as a gamer, I'm concerned about opening up console platforms.
Online PC gaming has been ruined by aimbot, wallhacks, and other cheats.
Console gaming so far has been less prone to these hacks because the systems are closed.
Whenever a console is hacked, there is a risk that online gaming will suffer from cheaters that make the game unplayable.
The Xbox 360 was eventually hacked, but this required a hard hack that allowed these systems to be kept offline so that wasn't a really big deal.
(More freedom with hardware WITHOUT hurting gaming!
Perfect!) It sounds like the PS3 hack is a softhack, which raises the possibility of aimbots and the like being introduced into online game play.
That's not necessarily a good thing for the PS3 as a gaming platform.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30919076</id>
	<title>If you consider...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264614420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I have a life to get back to and can't keep working on this all day and night.</i></p><p>If you consider bitching on Twitter a life, sure!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a life to get back to and ca n't keep working on this all day and night.If you consider bitching on Twitter a life , sure !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a life to get back to and can't keep working on this all day and night.If you consider bitching on Twitter a life, sure!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30919188</id>
	<title>Re:Works on PS3 slim?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264614780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is because of the restrictions applied. Without these restrictions the PS3 could be a very powerful Linux box with excellent home theatre possibilities.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is because of the restrictions applied .
Without these restrictions the PS3 could be a very powerful Linux box with excellent home theatre possibilities .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is because of the restrictions applied.
Without these restrictions the PS3 could be a very powerful Linux box with excellent home theatre possibilities.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30919510</id>
	<title>Re:What could this mean for Blue-Ray</title>
	<author>SScorpio</author>
	<datestamp>1264615980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or you could just use the program MakeMKV which is out for Windows, Linux, and OSX.  It lets you rip a BluRay directly to MKV without any other software.  It also allows you to stream the video with the program so you can actually play BluRay on Linux now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or you could just use the program MakeMKV which is out for Windows , Linux , and OSX .
It lets you rip a BluRay directly to MKV without any other software .
It also allows you to stream the video with the program so you can actually play BluRay on Linux now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or you could just use the program MakeMKV which is out for Windows, Linux, and OSX.
It lets you rip a BluRay directly to MKV without any other software.
It also allows you to stream the video with the program so you can actually play BluRay on Linux now.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30919430</id>
	<title>Re:Works on PS3 slim?</title>
	<author>soupd</author>
	<datestamp>1264615740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Aye, being able to run LINUX on a console is an impressive feat but the limited RAM severely limits actual usability.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Aye , being able to run LINUX on a console is an impressive feat but the limited RAM severely limits actual usability .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Aye, being able to run LINUX on a console is an impressive feat but the limited RAM severely limits actual usability.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30918422</id>
	<title>This guy is a hack, not a hacker.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264611960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
He tried to retrieve the keys and failed miserably, so he gave up and released this half assed attempt. He might be a big fish in the iphone scene but the fact is, he is just a hack. What's even funnier, all of this was accomplished more than one year ago by other people.
</p><p>
I want to send a big fuck you to geofail, all the warez scene (particularly the imbeciles at Paradox) and the people who pirate games.
</p><p>
Glass.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He tried to retrieve the keys and failed miserably , so he gave up and released this half assed attempt .
He might be a big fish in the iphone scene but the fact is , he is just a hack .
What 's even funnier , all of this was accomplished more than one year ago by other people .
I want to send a big fuck you to geofail , all the warez scene ( particularly the imbeciles at Paradox ) and the people who pirate games .
Glass .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
He tried to retrieve the keys and failed miserably, so he gave up and released this half assed attempt.
He might be a big fish in the iphone scene but the fact is, he is just a hack.
What's even funnier, all of this was accomplished more than one year ago by other people.
I want to send a big fuck you to geofail, all the warez scene (particularly the imbeciles at Paradox) and the people who pirate games.
Glass.
</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30921330</id>
	<title>Re:What could this mean for Blue-Ray</title>
	<author>BitterOak</author>
	<datestamp>1264622160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The BR encryption keys are already easily acquired.</p></div><p> <i>All</i> the encryption keys, or just the encryption keys for software based players?  If software player encryption keys are someday all revoked, will existing Blu-Ray cracks still work on new releases?  Remember with DVD the encryption keys were all 40 bits, so once the algorithm was discovered it was relatively easy to brute force <i>all</i> the keys, making the crack effectively permanent.  I don't think that Blu-Ray has been similarly cracked yet.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The BR encryption keys are already easily acquired .
All the encryption keys , or just the encryption keys for software based players ?
If software player encryption keys are someday all revoked , will existing Blu-Ray cracks still work on new releases ?
Remember with DVD the encryption keys were all 40 bits , so once the algorithm was discovered it was relatively easy to brute force all the keys , making the crack effectively permanent .
I do n't think that Blu-Ray has been similarly cracked yet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The BR encryption keys are already easily acquired.
All the encryption keys, or just the encryption keys for software based players?
If software player encryption keys are someday all revoked, will existing Blu-Ray cracks still work on new releases?
Remember with DVD the encryption keys were all 40 bits, so once the algorithm was discovered it was relatively easy to brute force all the keys, making the crack effectively permanent.
I don't think that Blu-Ray has been similarly cracked yet.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30931708</id>
	<title>Re:Works on PS3 slim?</title>
	<author>lmnfrs</author>
	<datestamp>1264682640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Don't buy a PS3 simply for the sake of installing Linux on it.</p></div><p>I can't disagree, but I think it should be viewed as a gaming system. Installing Linux may be like the pre-alpha version of a PC's live disc, but it has the relatively new, obscure game with a cult-following - messing with 'nix on a console.</p><p>Installing Ed's Debian on my Xbox served no purpose, but it sounded like a good way to fill my afternoon. Lacking a keyboard, all interaction was done via SSH instead of using the controller's limited bash interactivity; so I did a classic ifdown eth0..oh wait..crap. Then it was pure puzzle, making the lock picking in more recent games feel like pipe dream.</p><p>You're presented with a screen's worth of command history and output, the ability to copy, paste, and an Enter key. All you have to do is find your option, or path(s) of options, accurately predicting the output to know how much backlog will be flushed. Difficulty modes are set via router configuration, e.g. disabling DHCP, blocking communication between certain class 3 subsets, etc.</p><p>Was there a point? I have no idea, but it's a great game<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></div>
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<tokenext>Do n't buy a PS3 simply for the sake of installing Linux on it.I ca n't disagree , but I think it should be viewed as a gaming system .
Installing Linux may be like the pre-alpha version of a PC 's live disc , but it has the relatively new , obscure game with a cult-following - messing with 'nix on a console.Installing Ed 's Debian on my Xbox served no purpose , but it sounded like a good way to fill my afternoon .
Lacking a keyboard , all interaction was done via SSH instead of using the controller 's limited bash interactivity ; so I did a classic ifdown eth0..oh wait..crap .
Then it was pure puzzle , making the lock picking in more recent games feel like pipe dream.You 're presented with a screen 's worth of command history and output , the ability to copy , paste , and an Enter key .
All you have to do is find your option , or path ( s ) of options , accurately predicting the output to know how much backlog will be flushed .
Difficulty modes are set via router configuration , e.g .
disabling DHCP , blocking communication between certain class 3 subsets , etc.Was there a point ?
I have no idea , but it 's a great game : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't buy a PS3 simply for the sake of installing Linux on it.I can't disagree, but I think it should be viewed as a gaming system.
Installing Linux may be like the pre-alpha version of a PC's live disc, but it has the relatively new, obscure game with a cult-following - messing with 'nix on a console.Installing Ed's Debian on my Xbox served no purpose, but it sounded like a good way to fill my afternoon.
Lacking a keyboard, all interaction was done via SSH instead of using the controller's limited bash interactivity; so I did a classic ifdown eth0..oh wait..crap.
Then it was pure puzzle, making the lock picking in more recent games feel like pipe dream.You're presented with a screen's worth of command history and output, the ability to copy, paste, and an Enter key.
All you have to do is find your option, or path(s) of options, accurately predicting the output to know how much backlog will be flushed.
Difficulty modes are set via router configuration, e.g.
disabling DHCP, blocking communication between certain class 3 subsets, etc.Was there a point?
I have no idea, but it's a great game :)
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30918732</id>
	<title>Re:Does this open the floodgates?</title>
	<author>Kagato</author>
	<datestamp>1264613040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, older machines you could run linux with out much hassle.  But locking out the Hypervisor meant that Linux based software was locked out of the accelerated graphics.  Which is why the common uses for the PS3 on linux has been more for computational activities.  In theory this makes it possible to make home brew games and DVRs, etc.</p><p>I don't know if this has any effect on things like copy protection.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , older machines you could run linux with out much hassle .
But locking out the Hypervisor meant that Linux based software was locked out of the accelerated graphics .
Which is why the common uses for the PS3 on linux has been more for computational activities .
In theory this makes it possible to make home brew games and DVRs , etc.I do n't know if this has any effect on things like copy protection .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, older machines you could run linux with out much hassle.
But locking out the Hypervisor meant that Linux based software was locked out of the accelerated graphics.
Which is why the common uses for the PS3 on linux has been more for computational activities.
In theory this makes it possible to make home brew games and DVRs, etc.I don't know if this has any effect on things like copy protection.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30919800</id>
	<title>Re:Works on PS3 slim?</title>
	<author>pozitron969</author>
	<datestamp>1264617180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>FTA - Sony has stopped supporting the "OtherOS" feature in the PS3 slim.  Mr. Hotz used a bit of code while running Linux as the "OtherOS."  So initially it looks like No it won't work on the PS3 Slim.  But this may lead to other exploits which may work on that model.</htmltext>
<tokenext>FTA - Sony has stopped supporting the " OtherOS " feature in the PS3 slim .
Mr. Hotz used a bit of code while running Linux as the " OtherOS .
" So initially it looks like No it wo n't work on the PS3 Slim .
But this may lead to other exploits which may work on that model .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>FTA - Sony has stopped supporting the "OtherOS" feature in the PS3 slim.
Mr. Hotz used a bit of code while running Linux as the "OtherOS.
"  So initially it looks like No it won't work on the PS3 Slim.
But this may lead to other exploits which may work on that model.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30945184</id>
	<title>Re:This guy is a hack, not a hacker.</title>
	<author>hemlock00</author>
	<datestamp>1264694340000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>comment by HighGuy
2009-10-16 09:36:22
or rilly your all on the ball and plz (sony rep) if ur reading this you better run to ur boss for that big raze u want cuz we will hack this fucking thing with passion this new system mod is butifule make my shit work<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.if you haven&rsquo;t been keeping up with me I have now thismorning got a console mode in gta 4 woot woot time for a hoot but im not realesing shit for the fact I want time to play and work with this befor sony can ever fuck me up so the un hackuble ha fuck you<nobr> <wbr></nobr>..sorry to be rude but im a idiot rilly but I have worked hard and will need help soon so dave get lerning im 26 past my prime liike alex but kid ull take my shit to were wee need it<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.give me a month and I will give uu my shit ok be pationt and if sony thinks they have any idea on what I got ha fuckem just have faith in me the unhackuble coment motevated me more so stay high and sorry for beeing a hipocrit but you know

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  Comment by alex
2009-10-16 09:59:15
OH HighGuy WHYYY would you name the game bro. hopefully you are lying about the game because sony can just make a new patched GTA 4.

they did it with gta vice city for psp and lumines for psp.
so just watch what you say bro.

you got to be all ninja about these things

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  Comment by Dave
2009-10-16 13:29:47
Yea alex is right. It&rsquo;s okay tho, u didn&rsquo;t say HOW or WHAT udid with the game, but Sony will pull the game apart if they want LOL
And highguy, I still need to learn how to make hello worlds, I&rsquo;m only good at working with hacks that were already made. BUT I have a friend my age that can help me out as well in this. A couple ppl actually, one of it friends hacked his cable box and he gets free movies and shit he&rsquo;s maaaaaad good with that kind of stuff. He has the blue tooth hack on his moto razr look it up haha but yea high guy ur right. &rdquo; hack the unhackable &rdquo; pissed me off. Not pissed at greg, but the fact that technically it&rsquo;s true. [ FOR THE TIME BEING ] [[ fuk Sony ]]
I&rsquo;m going to spend time with c++ tools and find an exploit.</htmltext>
<tokenext>comment by HighGuy 2009-10-16 09 : 36 : 22 or rilly your all on the ball and plz ( sony rep ) if ur reading this you better run to ur boss for that big raze u want cuz we will hack this fucking thing with passion this new system mod is butifule make my shit work .if you haven    t been keeping up with me I have now thismorning got a console mode in gta 4 woot woot time for a hoot but im not realesing shit for the fact I want time to play and work with this befor sony can ever fuck me up so the un hackuble ha fuck you ..sorry to be rude but im a idiot rilly but I have worked hard and will need help soon so dave get lerning im 26 past my prime liike alex but kid ull take my shit to were wee need it .give me a month and I will give uu my shit ok be pationt and if sony thinks they have any idea on what I got ha fuckem just have faith in me the unhackuble coment motevated me more so stay high and sorry for beeing a hipocrit but you know Reply to this comment Comment by alex 2009-10-16 09 : 59 : 15 OH HighGuy WHYYY would you name the game bro .
hopefully you are lying about the game because sony can just make a new patched GTA 4 . they did it with gta vice city for psp and lumines for psp .
so just watch what you say bro .
you got to be all ninja about these things Reply to this comment Comment by Dave 2009-10-16 13 : 29 : 47 Yea alex is right .
It    s okay tho , u didn    t say HOW or WHAT udid with the game , but Sony will pull the game apart if they want LOL And highguy , I still need to learn how to make hello worlds , I    m only good at working with hacks that were already made .
BUT I have a friend my age that can help me out as well in this .
A couple ppl actually , one of it friends hacked his cable box and he gets free movies and shit he    s maaaaaad good with that kind of stuff .
He has the blue tooth hack on his moto razr look it up haha but yea high guy ur right .
   hack the unhackable    pissed me off .
Not pissed at greg , but the fact that technically it    s true .
[ FOR THE TIME BEING ] [ [ fuk Sony ] ] I    m going to spend time with c + + tools and find an exploit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>comment by HighGuy
2009-10-16 09:36:22
or rilly your all on the ball and plz (sony rep) if ur reading this you better run to ur boss for that big raze u want cuz we will hack this fucking thing with passion this new system mod is butifule make my shit work .if you haven’t been keeping up with me I have now thismorning got a console mode in gta 4 woot woot time for a hoot but im not realesing shit for the fact I want time to play and work with this befor sony can ever fuck me up so the un hackuble ha fuck you ..sorry to be rude but im a idiot rilly but I have worked hard and will need help soon so dave get lerning im 26 past my prime liike alex but kid ull take my shit to were wee need it .give me a month and I will give uu my shit ok be pationt and if sony thinks they have any idea on what I got ha fuckem just have faith in me the unhackuble coment motevated me more so stay high and sorry for beeing a hipocrit but you know

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  Comment by alex
2009-10-16 09:59:15
OH HighGuy WHYYY would you name the game bro.
hopefully you are lying about the game because sony can just make a new patched GTA 4.

they did it with gta vice city for psp and lumines for psp.
so just watch what you say bro.
you got to be all ninja about these things

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  Comment by Dave
2009-10-16 13:29:47
Yea alex is right.
It’s okay tho, u didn’t say HOW or WHAT udid with the game, but Sony will pull the game apart if they want LOL
And highguy, I still need to learn how to make hello worlds, I’m only good at working with hacks that were already made.
BUT I have a friend my age that can help me out as well in this.
A couple ppl actually, one of it friends hacked his cable box and he gets free movies and shit he’s maaaaaad good with that kind of stuff.
He has the blue tooth hack on his moto razr look it up haha but yea high guy ur right.
” hack the unhackable ” pissed me off.
Not pissed at greg, but the fact that technically it’s true.
[ FOR THE TIME BEING ] [[ fuk Sony ]]
I’m going to spend time with c++ tools and find an exploit.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30918872</id>
	<title>How It's Done</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264613640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Dang, I was just going to try this... (ha ha)

<tt>
geohot: well actually it's pretty simple
geohot: i allocate a piece of memory
geohot: using map\_htab and write\_htab, you can figure out the real address of the memory
geohot: which is a big win, and something the hv shouldn't allow
geohot: i fill the htab with tons of entries pointing to that piece of memory
geohot: and since i allocated it, i can map it read/write
geohot: then, i deallocate the memory
geohot: all those entries are set to invalid
geohot: well while it's setting entries invalid, i glitch the memory control bus
geohot: the cache writeback misses the memory<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)
geohot: and i have entries allowing r/w to a piece of memory the hypervisor thinks is deallocated
geohot: then i create a virtual segment with the htab overlapping that piece of memory i have
geohot: write an entry into the virtual segment htab allowing r/w to the main segment htab
geohot: switch to virtual segment
geohot: write to main segment htab a r/w mapping of itself
geohot: switch back
geohot: PWNED
geohot: and would work if memory were encrypted or had ECC
geohot: the way i actually glitch the memory bus is really funny
geohot: i have a button on my FPGA board
geohot: that pulses low for 40ns
geohot: i set up the htab with the tons of entries
geohot: and spam press the button
geohot: right after i send the deallocate call
</tt></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dang , I was just going to try this... ( ha ha ) geohot : well actually it 's pretty simple geohot : i allocate a piece of memory geohot : using map \ _htab and write \ _htab , you can figure out the real address of the memory geohot : which is a big win , and something the hv should n't allow geohot : i fill the htab with tons of entries pointing to that piece of memory geohot : and since i allocated it , i can map it read/write geohot : then , i deallocate the memory geohot : all those entries are set to invalid geohot : well while it 's setting entries invalid , i glitch the memory control bus geohot : the cache writeback misses the memory : ) geohot : and i have entries allowing r/w to a piece of memory the hypervisor thinks is deallocated geohot : then i create a virtual segment with the htab overlapping that piece of memory i have geohot : write an entry into the virtual segment htab allowing r/w to the main segment htab geohot : switch to virtual segment geohot : write to main segment htab a r/w mapping of itself geohot : switch back geohot : PWNED geohot : and would work if memory were encrypted or had ECC geohot : the way i actually glitch the memory bus is really funny geohot : i have a button on my FPGA board geohot : that pulses low for 40ns geohot : i set up the htab with the tons of entries geohot : and spam press the button geohot : right after i send the deallocate call</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dang, I was just going to try this... (ha ha)


geohot: well actually it's pretty simple
geohot: i allocate a piece of memory
geohot: using map\_htab and write\_htab, you can figure out the real address of the memory
geohot: which is a big win, and something the hv shouldn't allow
geohot: i fill the htab with tons of entries pointing to that piece of memory
geohot: and since i allocated it, i can map it read/write
geohot: then, i deallocate the memory
geohot: all those entries are set to invalid
geohot: well while it's setting entries invalid, i glitch the memory control bus
geohot: the cache writeback misses the memory :)
geohot: and i have entries allowing r/w to a piece of memory the hypervisor thinks is deallocated
geohot: then i create a virtual segment with the htab overlapping that piece of memory i have
geohot: write an entry into the virtual segment htab allowing r/w to the main segment htab
geohot: switch to virtual segment
geohot: write to main segment htab a r/w mapping of itself
geohot: switch back
geohot: PWNED
geohot: and would work if memory were encrypted or had ECC
geohot: the way i actually glitch the memory bus is really funny
geohot: i have a button on my FPGA board
geohot: that pulses low for 40ns
geohot: i set up the htab with the tons of entries
geohot: and spam press the button
geohot: right after i send the deallocate call
</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30918536</id>
	<title>Summary of what I've seen so far</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264612320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>* This is based on a Linux kernel module, so NO SLIM already, okay?
<br>* All it does is poke a hole in the hypervisor allowing memory access. This means it's not going to give you homebrew quite yet, but it's going to make it possible for people to start exploring and tinkering further.
<br>* It requires hardware that generates a 40ns pulse on some point on some version of the board. Apparently it introduces a hardware glitch that allows the hole to be opened. And it doesn't persist after a reboot.
<br>* The top level of security in the PS3 is in that one reserved SPU. Apparently it is given the root key during startup, holds all the other keys, and is responsible for decrypting and checking everything. But it's going to be very hard to get into.
<br>* Now that it's possible to get into the hypervisor, people can start poking at that SPU. But Sony's security model was supposed to include the possibility of the hypervisor being compromised in just this way.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>* This is based on a Linux kernel module , so NO SLIM already , okay ?
* All it does is poke a hole in the hypervisor allowing memory access .
This means it 's not going to give you homebrew quite yet , but it 's going to make it possible for people to start exploring and tinkering further .
* It requires hardware that generates a 40ns pulse on some point on some version of the board .
Apparently it introduces a hardware glitch that allows the hole to be opened .
And it does n't persist after a reboot .
* The top level of security in the PS3 is in that one reserved SPU .
Apparently it is given the root key during startup , holds all the other keys , and is responsible for decrypting and checking everything .
But it 's going to be very hard to get into .
* Now that it 's possible to get into the hypervisor , people can start poking at that SPU .
But Sony 's security model was supposed to include the possibility of the hypervisor being compromised in just this way .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>* This is based on a Linux kernel module, so NO SLIM already, okay?
* All it does is poke a hole in the hypervisor allowing memory access.
This means it's not going to give you homebrew quite yet, but it's going to make it possible for people to start exploring and tinkering further.
* It requires hardware that generates a 40ns pulse on some point on some version of the board.
Apparently it introduces a hardware glitch that allows the hole to be opened.
And it doesn't persist after a reboot.
* The top level of security in the PS3 is in that one reserved SPU.
Apparently it is given the root key during startup, holds all the other keys, and is responsible for decrypting and checking everything.
But it's going to be very hard to get into.
* Now that it's possible to get into the hypervisor, people can start poking at that SPU.
But Sony's security model was supposed to include the possibility of the hypervisor being compromised in just this way.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30924290</id>
	<title>Re:"It seems the trick is to use a pulse..."</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264585920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>"Mr La Forge, how did you manage to disable the Borg Cube?"<br> "Sir, it seems the trick is to use a pulse to glitch the hypervisor while it's unmapping memory, leaving a favorable page table entry."</p></div><p>Honestly, if Star Trek had fed me that as techno babble I would've called bullshit. I'm deeply impressed that it actually means something and works.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Mr La Forge , how did you manage to disable the Borg Cube ?
" " Sir , it seems the trick is to use a pulse to glitch the hypervisor while it 's unmapping memory , leaving a favorable page table entry .
" Honestly , if Star Trek had fed me that as techno babble I would 've called bullshit .
I 'm deeply impressed that it actually means something and works .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Mr La Forge, how did you manage to disable the Borg Cube?
" "Sir, it seems the trick is to use a pulse to glitch the hypervisor while it's unmapping memory, leaving a favorable page table entry.
"Honestly, if Star Trek had fed me that as techno babble I would've called bullshit.
I'm deeply impressed that it actually means something and works.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30918806</id>
	<title>"It seems the trick is to use a pulse..."</title>
	<author>Broken Bottle</author>
	<datestamp>1264613340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>"It seems the trick is to use a pulse to glitch the hypervisor while it's unmapping memory, leaving a favorable page table entry"

Well shit, when you put it like that it's a wonder this thing wasn't cracked by a kindergartner two and a half years ago.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</htmltext>
<tokenext>" It seems the trick is to use a pulse to glitch the hypervisor while it 's unmapping memory , leaving a favorable page table entry " Well shit , when you put it like that it 's a wonder this thing was n't cracked by a kindergartner two and a half years ago .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"It seems the trick is to use a pulse to glitch the hypervisor while it's unmapping memory, leaving a favorable page table entry"

Well shit, when you put it like that it's a wonder this thing wasn't cracked by a kindergartner two and a half years ago.
:)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30919136</id>
	<title>What could this mean for Blue-Ray</title>
	<author>bigdweeb</author>
	<datestamp>1264614660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wonder what this means for Blue-Ray.  It could be a major blow to Blue-Ray protection if this somehow allowed the interception of the encryption keys.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder what this means for Blue-Ray .
It could be a major blow to Blue-Ray protection if this somehow allowed the interception of the encryption keys .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder what this means for Blue-Ray.
It could be a major blow to Blue-Ray protection if this somehow allowed the interception of the encryption keys.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30918978</id>
	<title>...Okay, cool.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264614000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Release \_your\_ PS3 hack, then.</p><p>Don't have one, do you?</p><p>Jackoff. Again, some Slashdotter thinks they're so much smarter than people who actually DO newsworthy things, but does nothing but post online as an armchair expert.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Release \ _your \ _ PS3 hack , then.Do n't have one , do you ? Jackoff .
Again , some Slashdotter thinks they 're so much smarter than people who actually DO newsworthy things , but does nothing but post online as an armchair expert .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Release \_your\_ PS3 hack, then.Don't have one, do you?Jackoff.
Again, some Slashdotter thinks they're so much smarter than people who actually DO newsworthy things, but does nothing but post online as an armchair expert.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30919462</id>
	<title>Re:What could this mean for Blue-Ray</title>
	<author>NitroWolf</author>
	<datestamp>1264615860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I wonder what this means for Blue-Ray.  It could be a major blow to Blue-Ray protection if this somehow allowed the interception of the encryption keys.</p></div><p>Umm... what rock have you been living under?  Blu-Ray protection is an utter failure all on it's own.  A hack PS3 isn't going to make a bit of difference to Blu-Ray protection; The BR encryption keys are already easily acquired.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder what this means for Blue-Ray .
It could be a major blow to Blue-Ray protection if this somehow allowed the interception of the encryption keys.Umm... what rock have you been living under ?
Blu-Ray protection is an utter failure all on it 's own .
A hack PS3 is n't going to make a bit of difference to Blu-Ray protection ; The BR encryption keys are already easily acquired .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder what this means for Blue-Ray.
It could be a major blow to Blue-Ray protection if this somehow allowed the interception of the encryption keys.Umm... what rock have you been living under?
Blu-Ray protection is an utter failure all on it's own.
A hack PS3 isn't going to make a bit of difference to Blu-Ray protection; The BR encryption keys are already easily acquired.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30918954</id>
	<title>Re:Works on PS3 slim?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264613940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Will I be able to install Linux on it now? If so, I will buy one.</p></div><p>Don't buy a PS3 simply for the sake of installing Linux on it. The PS3 only has 256MB of system RAM and Linux does not run well at all on it (I know this from personal experience with a PS3-specific Linux flavor). Just build a computer for $500.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Will I be able to install Linux on it now ?
If so , I will buy one.Do n't buy a PS3 simply for the sake of installing Linux on it .
The PS3 only has 256MB of system RAM and Linux does not run well at all on it ( I know this from personal experience with a PS3-specific Linux flavor ) .
Just build a computer for $ 500 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Will I be able to install Linux on it now?
If so, I will buy one.Don't buy a PS3 simply for the sake of installing Linux on it.
The PS3 only has 256MB of system RAM and Linux does not run well at all on it (I know this from personal experience with a PS3-specific Linux flavor).
Just build a computer for $500.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30919476</id>
	<title>Re:Does this open the floodgates?</title>
	<author>nmb3000</author>
	<datestamp>1264615920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>If they are able to bypass the hypervisor and then do hack mods for the PS3 this might open up a whole new avenue for modders and interest in the platform that was not there before. In other words, this might not be a bad thing for the PS3 overall.</i></p><p>The problem with this is that Sony doesn't want you to buy a PS3 just so they can sell you the hardware.  Sony wants you to buy a PS3 so they can sell you games, movies, downloadable content, accessories such as remotes and controllers, and other stuff like that. Large numbers of people running hacked and modded consoles that can use homebrew software and games, cracked/pirated games and downloads, and pirated BluRay movies and DVDs is the exact opposite of what Sony really wants to see happen.</p><p>As other pointed out, Halo was a <b>huge</b> part of the popularity of the Xbox and was, in fact, the initial reason I personally bought one.  As useful as a modded Xbox is (games on the hard drive and XBMC especially), Microsoft doesn't like people modding the Xbox any more than Sony likes them modding the PS3.  After all, there's a reason these companies invested what probably amounted to millions of dollars in the (doomed to fail) anti-tampering software and hardware which guards the platform.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If they are able to bypass the hypervisor and then do hack mods for the PS3 this might open up a whole new avenue for modders and interest in the platform that was not there before .
In other words , this might not be a bad thing for the PS3 overall.The problem with this is that Sony does n't want you to buy a PS3 just so they can sell you the hardware .
Sony wants you to buy a PS3 so they can sell you games , movies , downloadable content , accessories such as remotes and controllers , and other stuff like that .
Large numbers of people running hacked and modded consoles that can use homebrew software and games , cracked/pirated games and downloads , and pirated BluRay movies and DVDs is the exact opposite of what Sony really wants to see happen.As other pointed out , Halo was a huge part of the popularity of the Xbox and was , in fact , the initial reason I personally bought one .
As useful as a modded Xbox is ( games on the hard drive and XBMC especially ) , Microsoft does n't like people modding the Xbox any more than Sony likes them modding the PS3 .
After all , there 's a reason these companies invested what probably amounted to millions of dollars in the ( doomed to fail ) anti-tampering software and hardware which guards the platform .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If they are able to bypass the hypervisor and then do hack mods for the PS3 this might open up a whole new avenue for modders and interest in the platform that was not there before.
In other words, this might not be a bad thing for the PS3 overall.The problem with this is that Sony doesn't want you to buy a PS3 just so they can sell you the hardware.
Sony wants you to buy a PS3 so they can sell you games, movies, downloadable content, accessories such as remotes and controllers, and other stuff like that.
Large numbers of people running hacked and modded consoles that can use homebrew software and games, cracked/pirated games and downloads, and pirated BluRay movies and DVDs is the exact opposite of what Sony really wants to see happen.As other pointed out, Halo was a huge part of the popularity of the Xbox and was, in fact, the initial reason I personally bought one.
As useful as a modded Xbox is (games on the hard drive and XBMC especially), Microsoft doesn't like people modding the Xbox any more than Sony likes them modding the PS3.
After all, there's a reason these companies invested what probably amounted to millions of dollars in the (doomed to fail) anti-tampering software and hardware which guards the platform.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30918576</id>
	<title>Re:DMCA</title>
	<author>Kong the Medium</author>
	<datestamp>1264612500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>too late.</p><p>This has been online for what, 12 hours? It was posted on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/.. Good luck in getting all copies back.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>too late.This has been online for what , 12 hours ?
It was posted on /.. Good luck in getting all copies back .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>too late.This has been online for what, 12 hours?
It was posted on /.. Good luck in getting all copies back.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30920238</id>
	<title>Linux runs a bit better these days...</title>
	<author>Dr. Manhattan</author>
	<datestamp>1264619040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Don't buy a PS3 simply for the sake of installing Linux on it.</p></div></blockquote><p>

 I would certainly agree with that. As you say, there are much better deals, price/performance-wise.</p><blockquote><div><p>The PS3 only has 256MB of system RAM and Linux does not run well at all on it...</p></div></blockquote><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr>...but this is a little overstated. Clever people figured out how to <a href="http://psubuntu.com/wiki/PSUbuntuGPU?show\_comments=1" title="psubuntu.com">use the video ram as ultra-fast swap</a> [psubuntu.com], which brings the <i>effective</i> RAM up to around 512MB. Still not awesome, but it makes Linux quite a bit more usable on the PS3.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't buy a PS3 simply for the sake of installing Linux on it .
I would certainly agree with that .
As you say , there are much better deals , price/performance-wise.The PS3 only has 256MB of system RAM and Linux does not run well at all on it... ...but this is a little overstated .
Clever people figured out how to use the video ram as ultra-fast swap [ psubuntu.com ] , which brings the effective RAM up to around 512MB .
Still not awesome , but it makes Linux quite a bit more usable on the PS3 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't buy a PS3 simply for the sake of installing Linux on it.
I would certainly agree with that.
As you say, there are much better deals, price/performance-wise.The PS3 only has 256MB of system RAM and Linux does not run well at all on it... ...but this is a little overstated.
Clever people figured out how to use the video ram as ultra-fast swap [psubuntu.com], which brings the effective RAM up to around 512MB.
Still not awesome, but it makes Linux quite a bit more usable on the PS3.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30926810</id>
	<title>AYBABTU</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264593480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>In AD 2010, War was beginning...<br>
SONY President: What happen?<br>
Kanna Shimizu: Somebody set up us the bomb.<br>
Kanna Shimizu: We get 40ns signal.<br>
SONY President: What?<br>
Kanna Shimizu: Main screen turn on.<br>
SONY President: It's you!<br>
GeoHot: How are you gentlemen!!<br>
GeoHot: All your base are belong to us.<br>
GeoHot: You are on the way to destruction.<br>
SONY President: What you say!!<br>
GeoHot: You have no chance to survive make your time.<br>
GeoHot: Ha Ha Ha Ha.</htmltext>
<tokenext>In AD 2010 , War was beginning.. . SONY President : What happen ?
Kanna Shimizu : Somebody set up us the bomb .
Kanna Shimizu : We get 40ns signal .
SONY President : What ?
Kanna Shimizu : Main screen turn on .
SONY President : It 's you !
GeoHot : How are you gentlemen ! !
GeoHot : All your base are belong to us .
GeoHot : You are on the way to destruction .
SONY President : What you say ! !
GeoHot : You have no chance to survive make your time .
GeoHot : Ha Ha Ha Ha .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In AD 2010, War was beginning...
SONY President: What happen?
Kanna Shimizu: Somebody set up us the bomb.
Kanna Shimizu: We get 40ns signal.
SONY President: What?
Kanna Shimizu: Main screen turn on.
SONY President: It's you!
GeoHot: How are you gentlemen!!
GeoHot: All your base are belong to us.
GeoHot: You are on the way to destruction.
SONY President: What you say!!
GeoHot: You have no chance to survive make your time.
GeoHot: Ha Ha Ha Ha.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30919190</id>
	<title>No corners cut as far as I can see</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264614780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you have physical access to the circuit board then frankly short of encrypting every single data and address line theres not much any company can do to prevent hack attempts.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you have physical access to the circuit board then frankly short of encrypting every single data and address line theres not much any company can do to prevent hack attempts .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you have physical access to the circuit board then frankly short of encrypting every single data and address line theres not much any company can do to prevent hack attempts.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30918322</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30919380</id>
	<title>Re:Does this open the floodgates?</title>
	<author>NitroWolf</author>
	<datestamp>1264615560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If they are able to bypass the hypervisor and then do hack mods for the PS3 this might open up a whole new avenue for modders and interest in the platform that was not there before.  In other words, this might not be a bad thing for the PS3 overall.</p></div><p>It would definitely be a bad thing for the PS3, just like it was for the original XBox.  If people start buying the consoles, but NOT buying any games or content (since they'd be using the PS3 for something else) - then the PS3 becomes a major loss and drain on company profits.  It's the razor and the content is the blades - sell the razor for cheap and rape them on the blades.  If there are no blades being purchased then selling the razor is pointless.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If they are able to bypass the hypervisor and then do hack mods for the PS3 this might open up a whole new avenue for modders and interest in the platform that was not there before .
In other words , this might not be a bad thing for the PS3 overall.It would definitely be a bad thing for the PS3 , just like it was for the original XBox .
If people start buying the consoles , but NOT buying any games or content ( since they 'd be using the PS3 for something else ) - then the PS3 becomes a major loss and drain on company profits .
It 's the razor and the content is the blades - sell the razor for cheap and rape them on the blades .
If there are no blades being purchased then selling the razor is pointless .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If they are able to bypass the hypervisor and then do hack mods for the PS3 this might open up a whole new avenue for modders and interest in the platform that was not there before.
In other words, this might not be a bad thing for the PS3 overall.It would definitely be a bad thing for the PS3, just like it was for the original XBox.
If people start buying the consoles, but NOT buying any games or content (since they'd be using the PS3 for something else) - then the PS3 becomes a major loss and drain on company profits.
It's the razor and the content is the blades - sell the razor for cheap and rape them on the blades.
If there are no blades being purchased then selling the razor is pointless.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30918360</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30918552</id>
	<title>Could be useful</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264612380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The only reason for that I like this is if they can get a different way to play media files such as XMBC to work so I can play MKV files without conversion on my PS3.

Also I didn't download these MKV files I have the disks, but this will prevent my son from ruining them and also allow me to change shows faster when one is done.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The only reason for that I like this is if they can get a different way to play media files such as XMBC to work so I can play MKV files without conversion on my PS3 .
Also I did n't download these MKV files I have the disks , but this will prevent my son from ruining them and also allow me to change shows faster when one is done .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The only reason for that I like this is if they can get a different way to play media files such as XMBC to work so I can play MKV files without conversion on my PS3.
Also I didn't download these MKV files I have the disks, but this will prevent my son from ruining them and also allow me to change shows faster when one is done.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30918506</id>
	<title>Re:I care!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264612200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Now I'll be able to use my PS3 as a media player without transcoding everything to its preferred format</htmltext>
<tokenext>Now I 'll be able to use my PS3 as a media player without transcoding everything to its preferred format</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now I'll be able to use my PS3 as a media player without transcoding everything to its preferred format</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30918362</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30920404</id>
	<title>It's also a little fishy...</title>
	<author>Otis\_INF</author>
	<datestamp>1264619580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I mean, he needs to block the HV correcting the tables, and presses a button to do that. But... that requires serious timing, as the call is made and directly after that he has to block the memory access with the pulse. To me this seems impossible to do, or he can start jamming the signal BEFORE the call is made, but that would potentially ruin the call in the first place.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I mean , he needs to block the HV correcting the tables , and presses a button to do that .
But... that requires serious timing , as the call is made and directly after that he has to block the memory access with the pulse .
To me this seems impossible to do , or he can start jamming the signal BEFORE the call is made , but that would potentially ruin the call in the first place .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I mean, he needs to block the HV correcting the tables, and presses a button to do that.
But... that requires serious timing, as the call is made and directly after that he has to block the memory access with the pulse.
To me this seems impossible to do, or he can start jamming the signal BEFORE the call is made, but that would potentially ruin the call in the first place.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30918582</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30921790</id>
	<title>Re:Summary of what I've seen so far</title>
	<author>hitchhacker</author>
	<datestamp>1264623060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I swear your bullet points sound like the plot to Tron.<br> <br>

"Tron: My User has information that could... that could make this a free system again! No, really! You'd have programs lined up just to use this place, and no SPU looking over your shoulder. "<br> <br><nobr> <wbr></nobr>... Bring in the logic probe!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I swear your bullet points sound like the plot to Tron .
" Tron : My User has information that could... that could make this a free system again !
No , really !
You 'd have programs lined up just to use this place , and no SPU looking over your shoulder .
" ... Bring in the logic probe !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I swear your bullet points sound like the plot to Tron.
"Tron: My User has information that could... that could make this a free system again!
No, really!
You'd have programs lined up just to use this place, and no SPU looking over your shoulder.
"  ... Bring in the logic probe!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30918536</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30918484</id>
	<title>DMCA</title>
	<author>fandingo</author>
	<datestamp>1264612140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Takedown notice in 3, 2, 1...</p><p>pastie.org: registered in KY, USA</p><p>blogspot.com registered in CA, USA</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Takedown notice in 3 , 2 , 1...pastie.org : registered in KY , USAblogspot.com registered in CA , USA</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Takedown notice in 3, 2, 1...pastie.org: registered in KY, USAblogspot.com registered in CA, USA</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30918882</id>
	<title>Re:This guy is a hack, not a hacker.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264613700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Trying and failing where none have succeeded before does not a "hack" make.</p><p>If indeed he simply duplicated what someone else has done before then that does diminish this acheivement, but I have heard nothing of the sort, you are an AC, and have not provided any citations.</p><p>Your ad hominem attack, and your unprovoked lashing out at game piraters makes me think that you have a personal stake in this somehow.  Without citations, I'm going to go ahead and say you are full of shit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Trying and failing where none have succeeded before does not a " hack " make.If indeed he simply duplicated what someone else has done before then that does diminish this acheivement , but I have heard nothing of the sort , you are an AC , and have not provided any citations.Your ad hominem attack , and your unprovoked lashing out at game piraters makes me think that you have a personal stake in this somehow .
Without citations , I 'm going to go ahead and say you are full of shit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Trying and failing where none have succeeded before does not a "hack" make.If indeed he simply duplicated what someone else has done before then that does diminish this acheivement, but I have heard nothing of the sort, you are an AC, and have not provided any citations.Your ad hominem attack, and your unprovoked lashing out at game piraters makes me think that you have a personal stake in this somehow.
Without citations, I'm going to go ahead and say you are full of shit.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30918422</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30918636</id>
	<title>Re:'I have a life to get back to'</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264612680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Only a slashdotter would think someone claiming to have a life is being dramatic.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Only a slashdotter would think someone claiming to have a life is being dramatic .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Only a slashdotter would think someone claiming to have a life is being dramatic.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30918352</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30918362</id>
	<title>Do I care?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264611720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes because it will show companies like Sony that hardware designed to prevent a person using a device they bought in the way they want will always fail.</p><p>but</p><p>No because the PS3 is a dead-end lump of obsolete hardware that is best used as a glorified media player or a cheap number cruncher.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes because it will show companies like Sony that hardware designed to prevent a person using a device they bought in the way they want will always fail.butNo because the PS3 is a dead-end lump of obsolete hardware that is best used as a glorified media player or a cheap number cruncher .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes because it will show companies like Sony that hardware designed to prevent a person using a device they bought in the way they want will always fail.butNo because the PS3 is a dead-end lump of obsolete hardware that is best used as a glorified media player or a cheap number cruncher.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30927006</id>
	<title>Re:Does this open the floodgates?</title>
	<author>Bert64</author>
	<datestamp>1264594140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They must be turning a profit on the hardware by now, I believe both Nintendo and MS are...</p><p>And why not release a more expensive un-crippled version?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They must be turning a profit on the hardware by now , I believe both Nintendo and MS are...And why not release a more expensive un-crippled version ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They must be turning a profit on the hardware by now, I believe both Nintendo and MS are...And why not release a more expensive un-crippled version?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30918822</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30918984</id>
	<title>Sony VS SGC!</title>
	<author>flayzernax</author>
	<datestamp>1264614060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Anyone have any feeling that after years of finally unraveling the PS3 hardware Sony is going to beam you up to their stolen Ghoa'uld space ship and tell you their the Illuminati and they plan to release an upgraded version of J.C. Denton on the world, but they need you to program his nanobots first?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Anyone have any feeling that after years of finally unraveling the PS3 hardware Sony is going to beam you up to their stolen Ghoa'uld space ship and tell you their the Illuminati and they plan to release an upgraded version of J.C. Denton on the world , but they need you to program his nanobots first ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anyone have any feeling that after years of finally unraveling the PS3 hardware Sony is going to beam you up to their stolen Ghoa'uld space ship and tell you their the Illuminati and they plan to release an upgraded version of J.C. Denton on the world, but they need you to program his nanobots first?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30920450</id>
	<title>Re:Works on PS3 slim?</title>
	<author>dimeglio</author>
	<datestamp>1264619700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>This is because of the restrictions applied. Without these restrictions the PS3 could be a very powerful Linux box with excellent home theatre possibilities.</p></div><p>Probably but the PS/3 "as is" provides pretty much exceptional home theatre possibilities out of the box. Including licensed codecs and BD support. Not sure I would use Linux on the PS/3 for that. I'd probably build a HTPC with XBMC which is quite impressive.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is because of the restrictions applied .
Without these restrictions the PS3 could be a very powerful Linux box with excellent home theatre possibilities.Probably but the PS/3 " as is " provides pretty much exceptional home theatre possibilities out of the box .
Including licensed codecs and BD support .
Not sure I would use Linux on the PS/3 for that .
I 'd probably build a HTPC with XBMC which is quite impressive .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is because of the restrictions applied.
Without these restrictions the PS3 could be a very powerful Linux box with excellent home theatre possibilities.Probably but the PS/3 "as is" provides pretty much exceptional home theatre possibilities out of the box.
Including licensed codecs and BD support.
Not sure I would use Linux on the PS/3 for that.
I'd probably build a HTPC with XBMC which is quite impressive.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30919188</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30918352</id>
	<title>'I have a life to get back to'</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264611720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How dramatic</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How dramatic</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How dramatic</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30918582</id>
	<title>Nice step forward, but no full compromise</title>
	<author>Superken7</author>
	<datestamp>1264612500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>While indeed this opens the door for PS3 hacking, the PS3 has not yet been fully "hacked".<br>See <a href="http://streetskaterfu.blogspot.com/2010/01/ps3-is-hacked-urban-legend-continues.html" title="blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://streetskaterfu.blogspot.com/2010/01/ps3-is-hacked-urban-legend-continues.html</a> [blogspot.com]</p><p>The security architecture of the PS3 is designed in a way to prevent hacks like this to fully compromise the system.</p><p>Another interesting read, by Kanna Shimizu, <a href="http://dslab.lzu.edu.cn:8080/members/zhangwei/doc/Cell\_Broadband\_Engine\_processor\_vault\_security\_architecture.pdf" title="lzu.edu.cn" rel="nofollow">http://dslab.lzu.edu.cn:8080/members/zhangwei/doc/Cell\_Broadband\_Engine\_processor\_vault\_security\_architecture.pdf</a> [lzu.edu.cn]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>While indeed this opens the door for PS3 hacking , the PS3 has not yet been fully " hacked " .See http : //streetskaterfu.blogspot.com/2010/01/ps3-is-hacked-urban-legend-continues.html [ blogspot.com ] The security architecture of the PS3 is designed in a way to prevent hacks like this to fully compromise the system.Another interesting read , by Kanna Shimizu , http : //dslab.lzu.edu.cn : 8080/members/zhangwei/doc/Cell \ _Broadband \ _Engine \ _processor \ _vault \ _security \ _architecture.pdf [ lzu.edu.cn ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While indeed this opens the door for PS3 hacking, the PS3 has not yet been fully "hacked".See http://streetskaterfu.blogspot.com/2010/01/ps3-is-hacked-urban-legend-continues.html [blogspot.com]The security architecture of the PS3 is designed in a way to prevent hacks like this to fully compromise the system.Another interesting read, by Kanna Shimizu, http://dslab.lzu.edu.cn:8080/members/zhangwei/doc/Cell\_Broadband\_Engine\_processor\_vault\_security\_architecture.pdf [lzu.edu.cn]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30919482</id>
	<title>Re:Does this open the floodgates?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264615920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Will it fuck.</p><p>Let's face it, &gt;70\% of people who even use hacks are usually doing it for piracy.</p><p>This will be terrible for PS3 if it does actually lead to it being opened up, yes, even with the large 15+ GB games.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Will it fuck.Let 's face it , &gt; 70 \ % of people who even use hacks are usually doing it for piracy.This will be terrible for PS3 if it does actually lead to it being opened up , yes , even with the large 15 + GB games .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Will it fuck.Let's face it, &gt;70\% of people who even use hacks are usually doing it for piracy.This will be terrible for PS3 if it does actually lead to it being opened up, yes, even with the large 15+ GB games.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30918360</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30929534</id>
	<title>Re:Works on PS3 slim?</title>
	<author>CronoCloud</author>
	<datestamp>1264612860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Which distro?  Which window manager/desktop?  You weren't trying to run a full KDE/Gnome environment on the thing, were you?</p><p>There's plenty of ways to optimize the PS3 Linux experience, shutting down unecessary services, not using GDM and booting straight into a text console, using Fluxbox, enabling VRAM swap, using lightweight applications, all sorts of easy things.  I know because I've done it, and have Yellow Dog Linux 6.2 installed on mine.</p><p>It's also kind of funny that people are saying 256MB isn't enough when that was a common amount for WinXP machines to have not so many years ago.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Which distro ?
Which window manager/desktop ?
You were n't trying to run a full KDE/Gnome environment on the thing , were you ? There 's plenty of ways to optimize the PS3 Linux experience , shutting down unecessary services , not using GDM and booting straight into a text console , using Fluxbox , enabling VRAM swap , using lightweight applications , all sorts of easy things .
I know because I 've done it , and have Yellow Dog Linux 6.2 installed on mine.It 's also kind of funny that people are saying 256MB is n't enough when that was a common amount for WinXP machines to have not so many years ago .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Which distro?
Which window manager/desktop?
You weren't trying to run a full KDE/Gnome environment on the thing, were you?There's plenty of ways to optimize the PS3 Linux experience, shutting down unecessary services, not using GDM and booting straight into a text console, using Fluxbox, enabling VRAM swap, using lightweight applications, all sorts of easy things.
I know because I've done it, and have Yellow Dog Linux 6.2 installed on mine.It's also kind of funny that people are saying 256MB isn't enough when that was a common amount for WinXP machines to have not so many years ago.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30937652</id>
	<title>Re:"It seems the trick is to use a pulse..."</title>
	<author>EvilXenu</author>
	<datestamp>1264707060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Red alert!  Shields Up!  All hands brace for impact!  New Internet meme inbound in 5.. 4.. 3..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Red alert !
Shields Up !
All hands brace for impact !
New Internet meme inbound in 5.. 4.. 3. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Red alert!
Shields Up!
All hands brace for impact!
New Internet meme inbound in 5.. 4.. 3..</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30918360</id>
	<title>Does this open the floodgates?</title>
	<author>ACK!!</author>
	<datestamp>1264611720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>If they are able to bypass the hypervisor and then do hack mods for the PS3 this might open up a whole new avenue for modders and interest in the platform that was not there before.  In other words, this might not be a bad thing for the PS3 overall.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If they are able to bypass the hypervisor and then do hack mods for the PS3 this might open up a whole new avenue for modders and interest in the platform that was not there before .
In other words , this might not be a bad thing for the PS3 overall .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If they are able to bypass the hypervisor and then do hack mods for the PS3 this might open up a whole new avenue for modders and interest in the platform that was not there before.
In other words, this might not be a bad thing for the PS3 overall.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30919070</id>
	<title>I have a life to get back to...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264614420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nope, I think not.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nope , I think not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nope, I think not.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30919006</id>
	<title>Re:Could be useful</title>
	<author>BoogeyOfTheMan</author>
	<datestamp>1264614180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Theres a an app called "PS3 Media Server" for Linux and Windows that will convert mkv files on the fly and allow them to be viewed by the PS3.</p><p>Its running fine on my Ubuntu 9.10 box (C2D 2.4ghz w/4GB ram). Though some avi's still wont work, most of all my other media will.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Theres a an app called " PS3 Media Server " for Linux and Windows that will convert mkv files on the fly and allow them to be viewed by the PS3.Its running fine on my Ubuntu 9.10 box ( C2D 2.4ghz w/4GB ram ) .
Though some avi 's still wont work , most of all my other media will .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Theres a an app called "PS3 Media Server" for Linux and Windows that will convert mkv files on the fly and allow them to be viewed by the PS3.Its running fine on my Ubuntu 9.10 box (C2D 2.4ghz w/4GB ram).
Though some avi's still wont work, most of all my other media will.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30918552</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30918328</id>
	<title>Works on PS3 slim?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264611600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Does this work on the PS3 slim?  Will I be able to install Linux on it now?  If so, I will buy one.  I have not had enough of a reason to buy a PS3 before, but this will pretty much do it for me.  It will be interesting to see if there is a sales spike because of it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does this work on the PS3 slim ?
Will I be able to install Linux on it now ?
If so , I will buy one .
I have not had enough of a reason to buy a PS3 before , but this will pretty much do it for me .
It will be interesting to see if there is a sales spike because of it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does this work on the PS3 slim?
Will I be able to install Linux on it now?
If so, I will buy one.
I have not had enough of a reason to buy a PS3 before, but this will pretty much do it for me.
It will be interesting to see if there is a sales spike because of it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30929552</id>
	<title>Re:Works on PS3 slim?</title>
	<author>CronoCloud</author>
	<datestamp>1264613100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Usability for what purposes?  I've done all sorts of things on mine.  Edited photos, created documents, etc.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Usability for what purposes ?
I 've done all sorts of things on mine .
Edited photos , created documents , etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Usability for what purposes?
I've done all sorts of things on mine.
Edited photos, created documents, etc.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30922088</id>
	<title>Re:Works on PS3 slim?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264623600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It is only slow because you're doing it wrong and the hypervisor has access restricted.</p><p>256MB of XDR has enough bandwidth to match 2GB DDR.</p><p>Once the hack is properly applied/vetted and people actually get direct memory access, you can almost guarantee that PS3 specific Linux flavors will run much faster than you ever thought possible.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It is only slow because you 're doing it wrong and the hypervisor has access restricted.256MB of XDR has enough bandwidth to match 2GB DDR.Once the hack is properly applied/vetted and people actually get direct memory access , you can almost guarantee that PS3 specific Linux flavors will run much faster than you ever thought possible .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is only slow because you're doing it wrong and the hypervisor has access restricted.256MB of XDR has enough bandwidth to match 2GB DDR.Once the hack is properly applied/vetted and people actually get direct memory access, you can almost guarantee that PS3 specific Linux flavors will run much faster than you ever thought possible.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30918702</id>
	<title>Re:Summary of what I've seen so far</title>
	<author>MBCook</author>
	<datestamp>1264612920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The important thing about this hack is that they can dump the hypervisor (which has now been done). Obviously this would be a pain to use to load homebrew.
</p><p>But with the hypervisor code, they can disassemble it and try to find bugs. If they find one, then they can exploit that. That method may make it possible to find a way to root any console, including the slim.
</p><p>This is certainly interesting, but it's not at the "download this and you have root" stage.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The important thing about this hack is that they can dump the hypervisor ( which has now been done ) .
Obviously this would be a pain to use to load homebrew .
But with the hypervisor code , they can disassemble it and try to find bugs .
If they find one , then they can exploit that .
That method may make it possible to find a way to root any console , including the slim .
This is certainly interesting , but it 's not at the " download this and you have root " stage .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The important thing about this hack is that they can dump the hypervisor (which has now been done).
Obviously this would be a pain to use to load homebrew.
But with the hypervisor code, they can disassemble it and try to find bugs.
If they find one, then they can exploit that.
That method may make it possible to find a way to root any console, including the slim.
This is certainly interesting, but it's not at the "download this and you have root" stage.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30918536</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30919054</id>
	<title>Re:This guy is a hack, not a hacker.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264614360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not only is he a hack on this (this is not an exploit), but even in the iPhone scene, he took credit for *a lot* of other peoples work. The kid is an attention whore and a tool, and surely had hopes this would get him pussy.</p><p>We're going to get you GeoFagz. You've fucked with the wrong people.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not only is he a hack on this ( this is not an exploit ) , but even in the iPhone scene , he took credit for * a lot * of other peoples work .
The kid is an attention whore and a tool , and surely had hopes this would get him pussy.We 're going to get you GeoFagz .
You 've fucked with the wrong people .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not only is he a hack on this (this is not an exploit), but even in the iPhone scene, he took credit for *a lot* of other peoples work.
The kid is an attention whore and a tool, and surely had hopes this would get him pussy.We're going to get you GeoFagz.
You've fucked with the wrong people.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30918422</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30919652</id>
	<title>Oh noes!</title>
	<author>Aphoxema</author>
	<datestamp>1264616640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oh, shit, I hope Sony has heard about this!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh , shit , I hope Sony has heard about this !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh, shit, I hope Sony has heard about this!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30920030</id>
	<title>How is this possible?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264618260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Can somebody please explain to me why a kernel module (with fewer privileges than the HV) is able to create a "virtual segment, indicating that the hypervisor should store the HTAB associated with it at a specific address."?</p><p>I guess that functionality is needed somehow, and therefore accessible to kernel modules;<br>
&nbsp; otherwise it would not make sense to me that they exposed unnecessary calls that mess with sensible stuff like the HTAB location (which contains the main segment, etc..) and ultimately lead to exploits like this.</p><p>Any insight, thoughts?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Can somebody please explain to me why a kernel module ( with fewer privileges than the HV ) is able to create a " virtual segment , indicating that the hypervisor should store the HTAB associated with it at a specific address .
" ? I guess that functionality is needed somehow , and therefore accessible to kernel modules ;   otherwise it would not make sense to me that they exposed unnecessary calls that mess with sensible stuff like the HTAB location ( which contains the main segment , etc.. ) and ultimately lead to exploits like this.Any insight , thoughts ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can somebody please explain to me why a kernel module (with fewer privileges than the HV) is able to create a "virtual segment, indicating that the hypervisor should store the HTAB associated with it at a specific address.
"?I guess that functionality is needed somehow, and therefore accessible to kernel modules;
  otherwise it would not make sense to me that they exposed unnecessary calls that mess with sensible stuff like the HTAB location (which contains the main segment, etc..) and ultimately lead to exploits like this.Any insight, thoughts?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30947578</id>
	<title>Re:"It seems the trick is to use a pulse..."</title>
	<author>tingeber</author>
	<datestamp>1264765740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>"It seems the trick is to use a pulse to glitch the hypervisor while it's unmapping memory, leaving a favorable page table entry"</p></div><p>
But that's the same technique Cereal Killer used to hack the Gibson!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" It seems the trick is to use a pulse to glitch the hypervisor while it 's unmapping memory , leaving a favorable page table entry " But that 's the same technique Cereal Killer used to hack the Gibson !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"It seems the trick is to use a pulse to glitch the hypervisor while it's unmapping memory, leaving a favorable page table entry"
But that's the same technique Cereal Killer used to hack the Gibson!
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30918322</id>
	<title>This sounds just like the GBC ROM dump hack</title>
	<author>Ant P.</author>
	<datestamp>1264611600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Even if your software security is perfect, if your hardware cuts corners then all it takes is 100mW in the wrong place at the wrong time...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Even if your software security is perfect , if your hardware cuts corners then all it takes is 100mW in the wrong place at the wrong time.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even if your software security is perfect, if your hardware cuts corners then all it takes is 100mW in the wrong place at the wrong time...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30924704</id>
	<title>Analogue</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264587060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ironic that a modern digital device succumbs to an analogue hack.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ironic that a modern digital device succumbs to an analogue hack .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ironic that a modern digital device succumbs to an analogue hack.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30918822</id>
	<title>Re:Does this open the floodgates?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264613400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Except, sony loses money on every ps3 sale in hopes of getting it back in overpriced games.  So, if it's more popular, it's a loss for sony if those people don't buy games.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Except , sony loses money on every ps3 sale in hopes of getting it back in overpriced games .
So , if it 's more popular , it 's a loss for sony if those people do n't buy games .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Except, sony loses money on every ps3 sale in hopes of getting it back in overpriced games.
So, if it's more popular, it's a loss for sony if those people don't buy games.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30922184</id>
	<title>Re:What could this mean for Blue-Ray</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264623780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Good! Care to give some pointers how to play blu-ray movies (MKB v14 or whatever the latest is) using only open source software on Linux?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Good !
Care to give some pointers how to play blu-ray movies ( MKB v14 or whatever the latest is ) using only open source software on Linux ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Good!
Care to give some pointers how to play blu-ray movies (MKB v14 or whatever the latest is) using only open source software on Linux?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30919462</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_27_1534214.30921968</id>
	<title>Re:No corners cut as far as I can see</title>
	<author>Khyber</author>
	<datestamp>1264623420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No cut corners that you can see?</p><p>Hahaha. Let's see. We've got at least 5 different PS3 models, with varying hardware capabilities. Somewhere, in the name of making money, they most certainly did cut corners.</p><p>Now the question is - which model was hacked? I can almost guarantee the new Slim wasn't used, so which fat model? With or without PS2 BC? Full hardware PS2 or hardware/software?</p><p>We already knew we could glitch the memory bus with properly applied current to get some signals past the hypervisor, it was really dependent upon the model.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No cut corners that you can see ? Hahaha .
Let 's see .
We 've got at least 5 different PS3 models , with varying hardware capabilities .
Somewhere , in the name of making money , they most certainly did cut corners.Now the question is - which model was hacked ?
I can almost guarantee the new Slim was n't used , so which fat model ?
With or without PS2 BC ?
Full hardware PS2 or hardware/software ? We already knew we could glitch the memory bus with properly applied current to get some signals past the hypervisor , it was really dependent upon the model .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No cut corners that you can see?Hahaha.
Let's see.
We've got at least 5 different PS3 models, with varying hardware capabilities.
Somewhere, in the name of making money, they most certainly did cut corners.Now the question is - which model was hacked?
I can almost guarantee the new Slim wasn't used, so which fat model?
With or without PS2 BC?
Full hardware PS2 or hardware/software?We already knew we could glitch the memory bus with properly applied current to get some signals past the hypervisor, it was really dependent upon the model.</sentencetext>
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