<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_01_26_1538257</id>
	<title>The Future of Portable Linux Distros</title>
	<author>Soulskill</author>
	<datestamp>1264521780000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>i\_want\_you\_to\_throw\_ sends in a Tech Radar piece about the various portable Linux distributions, focusing on operating systems like Android, Chrome OS, and Ubuntu Netbook Remix. The article compares the distributions designed for similar purposes and <a href="http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/linux-on-the-move-the-future-of-portable-distros-665271">discusses where they will likely go in the future</a>.
<i>"As UNR is built on Ubuntu, it's highly likely that we'll see almost as many UNR respins as we have for the parent distribution. We've already seen one example in Jolicloud, and we'd put money on many community distributions, such as Linux Mint or Crunchbang offering a UNR overhaul alongside their standard desktop installations. It's also likely that Canonical will be able to forge stronger relationships with companies like Dell, which is already shipping a specific version of UNR on its Mini 9 platform. As Windows XP is phased out and the cost of bundling Windows 7 rises, manufacturers will be looking for a cheap and easily maintainable netbook OS, and UNR fits the bill admirably."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>i \ _want \ _you \ _to \ _throw \ _ sends in a Tech Radar piece about the various portable Linux distributions , focusing on operating systems like Android , Chrome OS , and Ubuntu Netbook Remix .
The article compares the distributions designed for similar purposes and discusses where they will likely go in the future .
" As UNR is built on Ubuntu , it 's highly likely that we 'll see almost as many UNR respins as we have for the parent distribution .
We 've already seen one example in Jolicloud , and we 'd put money on many community distributions , such as Linux Mint or Crunchbang offering a UNR overhaul alongside their standard desktop installations .
It 's also likely that Canonical will be able to forge stronger relationships with companies like Dell , which is already shipping a specific version of UNR on its Mini 9 platform .
As Windows XP is phased out and the cost of bundling Windows 7 rises , manufacturers will be looking for a cheap and easily maintainable netbook OS , and UNR fits the bill admirably .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i\_want\_you\_to\_throw\_ sends in a Tech Radar piece about the various portable Linux distributions, focusing on operating systems like Android, Chrome OS, and Ubuntu Netbook Remix.
The article compares the distributions designed for similar purposes and discusses where they will likely go in the future.
"As UNR is built on Ubuntu, it's highly likely that we'll see almost as many UNR respins as we have for the parent distribution.
We've already seen one example in Jolicloud, and we'd put money on many community distributions, such as Linux Mint or Crunchbang offering a UNR overhaul alongside their standard desktop installations.
It's also likely that Canonical will be able to forge stronger relationships with companies like Dell, which is already shipping a specific version of UNR on its Mini 9 platform.
As Windows XP is phased out and the cost of bundling Windows 7 rises, manufacturers will be looking for a cheap and easily maintainable netbook OS, and UNR fits the bill admirably.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_1538257.30905468</id>
	<title>that's why</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264525560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>And that's why I bought a Saturn.</htmltext>
<tokenext>And that 's why I bought a Saturn .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And that's why I bought a Saturn.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_1538257.30906258</id>
	<title>Re:Cloud Computing needs to go.</title>
	<author>thenextstevejobs</author>
	<datestamp>1264528440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>sometimes there are just new words for old things.
<br> <br>
i don't think many of us are upset about having our email 'in the cloud' for example, but what we like is being able to sync it to our phones and computers. but this universally accepted and successful(?) 'cloud' model is near universal.
<br> <br>
i'd say the same about my other documents. i don't mind a 'repository' of my music, documents, etc., which I access over the net, but I do want to have local copies.
<br> <br>
sometimes it seems to me like internet companies are trying to stockpile data so that they "can't" go away, get propped up by governments, necessity of access to information. doesn't really seem healthy.
<br> <br>
makes me think of highly encrypted shared clouds done on a bittorrent/TOR like model, decentralize the thing...</htmltext>
<tokenext>sometimes there are just new words for old things .
i do n't think many of us are upset about having our email 'in the cloud ' for example , but what we like is being able to sync it to our phones and computers .
but this universally accepted and successful ( ?
) 'cloud ' model is near universal .
i 'd say the same about my other documents .
i do n't mind a 'repository ' of my music , documents , etc. , which I access over the net , but I do want to have local copies .
sometimes it seems to me like internet companies are trying to stockpile data so that they " ca n't " go away , get propped up by governments , necessity of access to information .
does n't really seem healthy .
makes me think of highly encrypted shared clouds done on a bittorrent/TOR like model , decentralize the thing.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>sometimes there are just new words for old things.
i don't think many of us are upset about having our email 'in the cloud' for example, but what we like is being able to sync it to our phones and computers.
but this universally accepted and successful(?
) 'cloud' model is near universal.
i'd say the same about my other documents.
i don't mind a 'repository' of my music, documents, etc., which I access over the net, but I do want to have local copies.
sometimes it seems to me like internet companies are trying to stockpile data so that they "can't" go away, get propped up by governments, necessity of access to information.
doesn't really seem healthy.
makes me think of highly encrypted shared clouds done on a bittorrent/TOR like model, decentralize the thing...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_1538257.30907078</id>
	<title>Re:Diversity</title>
	<author>westlake</author>
	<datestamp>1264531680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>The fact that they have conceded to continue selling xp on netbooks is the major reason they haven't been shut out of the growing netbook segment entirely.</i> </p><p>Just for fun, try this:</p><p>Search Google Shopping for ARM netbook. {about 200 hits]</p><p>Search Google Shopping for Windows 7 SE Netbook. [about 9,000 hits]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The fact that they have conceded to continue selling xp on netbooks is the major reason they have n't been shut out of the growing netbook segment entirely .
Just for fun , try this : Search Google Shopping for ARM netbook .
{ about 200 hits ] Search Google Shopping for Windows 7 SE Netbook .
[ about 9,000 hits ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The fact that they have conceded to continue selling xp on netbooks is the major reason they haven't been shut out of the growing netbook segment entirely.
Just for fun, try this:Search Google Shopping for ARM netbook.
{about 200 hits]Search Google Shopping for Windows 7 SE Netbook.
[about 9,000 hits]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_1538257.30912238</id>
	<title>Linux is a kernel ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264513620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"The Future of Portable Linux Distros"</p><p>Correction:<br>-&gt; The Future of Portable Distros Based on GNU/linux.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" The Future of Portable Linux Distros " Correction : - &gt; The Future of Portable Distros Based on GNU/linux .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"The Future of Portable Linux Distros"Correction:-&gt; The Future of Portable Distros Based on GNU/linux.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_1538257.30905512</id>
	<title>oh dear</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264525680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>UNR might also be a good choice for desktop machines, as the huge choice of the default Ubuntu can be overwhelming</i></p><p>If you find n00buntu overwhelming, maybe you should consider a career as a speed bump or buoy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>UNR might also be a good choice for desktop machines , as the huge choice of the default Ubuntu can be overwhelmingIf you find n00buntu overwhelming , maybe you should consider a career as a speed bump or buoy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>UNR might also be a good choice for desktop machines, as the huge choice of the default Ubuntu can be overwhelmingIf you find n00buntu overwhelming, maybe you should consider a career as a speed bump or buoy.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_1538257.30906192</id>
	<title>Re:Diversity</title>
	<author>Rogerborg</author>
	<datestamp>1264528200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>You know that whenever you say "diversity", a tech support fairy dies, right?</htmltext>
<tokenext>You know that whenever you say " diversity " , a tech support fairy dies , right ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You know that whenever you say "diversity", a tech support fairy dies, right?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_1538257.30908358</id>
	<title>Re:Cloud Computing needs to go.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264536780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>hm it sounds to me as that cloud thingie could be useful in getting rid of too much redundancy. right now all of music and films I have on HDD - others have too.<br>if all that data moves to cloud we could have lot more storage.<br>(assuming network connection becomes so cheap that its practically free)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>hm it sounds to me as that cloud thingie could be useful in getting rid of too much redundancy .
right now all of music and films I have on HDD - others have too.if all that data moves to cloud we could have lot more storage .
( assuming network connection becomes so cheap that its practically free )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>hm it sounds to me as that cloud thingie could be useful in getting rid of too much redundancy.
right now all of music and films I have on HDD - others have too.if all that data moves to cloud we could have lot more storage.
(assuming network connection becomes so cheap that its practically free)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_1538257.30906258</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_1538257.30905578</id>
	<title>Cloud Computing needs to go.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264525920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The biggest hindrance so far has been Cloud Computing. Device manufacturers, rather than focusing on making their portables more powerful and useful on their own, have been banking on Cloud Computing to make their devices usable by offloading any strenuous processing.</p><p>As we've seen so far, Cloud Computing is a failure in virtually all cases, especially when semi-connected portable devices are involved. The service is spotty, connectivity proves to be a major issue, and the services implemented so far have been far, far, far inferior to more traditional approaches.</p><p>What people want is basically their desktop system, with the ability to run arbitrary applications and store the data locally, but compacted down into a portable device that can be used on the go. They don't want to host their data on some third-party servers, they don't want to use web-based applications, and they don't want to have their application selection limited by a single vendor or network operator.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The biggest hindrance so far has been Cloud Computing .
Device manufacturers , rather than focusing on making their portables more powerful and useful on their own , have been banking on Cloud Computing to make their devices usable by offloading any strenuous processing.As we 've seen so far , Cloud Computing is a failure in virtually all cases , especially when semi-connected portable devices are involved .
The service is spotty , connectivity proves to be a major issue , and the services implemented so far have been far , far , far inferior to more traditional approaches.What people want is basically their desktop system , with the ability to run arbitrary applications and store the data locally , but compacted down into a portable device that can be used on the go .
They do n't want to host their data on some third-party servers , they do n't want to use web-based applications , and they do n't want to have their application selection limited by a single vendor or network operator .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The biggest hindrance so far has been Cloud Computing.
Device manufacturers, rather than focusing on making their portables more powerful and useful on their own, have been banking on Cloud Computing to make their devices usable by offloading any strenuous processing.As we've seen so far, Cloud Computing is a failure in virtually all cases, especially when semi-connected portable devices are involved.
The service is spotty, connectivity proves to be a major issue, and the services implemented so far have been far, far, far inferior to more traditional approaches.What people want is basically their desktop system, with the ability to run arbitrary applications and store the data locally, but compacted down into a portable device that can be used on the go.
They don't want to host their data on some third-party servers, they don't want to use web-based applications, and they don't want to have their application selection limited by a single vendor or network operator.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_1538257.30905540</id>
	<title>crazy moon man language</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264525800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>As UNR is built on Ubuntu, it's highly likely that we'll see almost as many UNR respins as we have for the parent distribution. We've already seen one example in Jolicloud, and we'd put money on many community distributions, such as Linux Mint or Crunchbang offering a UNR overhaul alongside their standard desktop installations. It's also likely that Canonical will be able to forge stronger relationships with companies like Dell, which is already shipping a specific version of UNR on its Mini 9 platform. As Windows XP is phased out and the cost of bundling Windows 7 rises, manufacturers will be looking for a cheap and easily maintainable netbook OS, and UNR fits the bill admirably.</p></div></blockquote><p>
Always nice to read a story full of incomprehensible, obscure acronyms.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>As UNR is built on Ubuntu , it 's highly likely that we 'll see almost as many UNR respins as we have for the parent distribution .
We 've already seen one example in Jolicloud , and we 'd put money on many community distributions , such as Linux Mint or Crunchbang offering a UNR overhaul alongside their standard desktop installations .
It 's also likely that Canonical will be able to forge stronger relationships with companies like Dell , which is already shipping a specific version of UNR on its Mini 9 platform .
As Windows XP is phased out and the cost of bundling Windows 7 rises , manufacturers will be looking for a cheap and easily maintainable netbook OS , and UNR fits the bill admirably .
Always nice to read a story full of incomprehensible , obscure acronyms .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As UNR is built on Ubuntu, it's highly likely that we'll see almost as many UNR respins as we have for the parent distribution.
We've already seen one example in Jolicloud, and we'd put money on many community distributions, such as Linux Mint or Crunchbang offering a UNR overhaul alongside their standard desktop installations.
It's also likely that Canonical will be able to forge stronger relationships with companies like Dell, which is already shipping a specific version of UNR on its Mini 9 platform.
As Windows XP is phased out and the cost of bundling Windows 7 rises, manufacturers will be looking for a cheap and easily maintainable netbook OS, and UNR fits the bill admirably.
Always nice to read a story full of incomprehensible, obscure acronyms.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_1538257.30913058</id>
	<title>Re:Cloud Computing needs to go.</title>
	<author>martin-boundary</author>
	<datestamp>1264520940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>The cloud allows you to put your data in
    a place where it will have some real infrastructure behind it. And not just
    one drop away from being lost, and easily stolen.</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
Is your data really stolen if you don't know somebody stole it from you?
Being in the cloud means you cannot know what happens to your data.
</p><p>
If you
keep your data yourself and it is stolen from you, then you know it is stolen and you can decide to do something about it. Ditto if it is lost.
</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The cloud allows you to put your data in a place where it will have some real infrastructure behind it .
And not just one drop away from being lost , and easily stolen .
Is your data really stolen if you do n't know somebody stole it from you ?
Being in the cloud means you can not know what happens to your data .
If you keep your data yourself and it is stolen from you , then you know it is stolen and you can decide to do something about it .
Ditto if it is lost .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The cloud allows you to put your data in
    a place where it will have some real infrastructure behind it.
And not just
    one drop away from being lost, and easily stolen.
Is your data really stolen if you don't know somebody stole it from you?
Being in the cloud means you cannot know what happens to your data.
If you
keep your data yourself and it is stolen from you, then you know it is stolen and you can decide to do something about it.
Ditto if it is lost.

	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_1538257.30906338</id>
	<title>Will 2010 be</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264528740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Will 2010 finally be the year of Linux on the...wristwatch?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Will 2010 finally be the year of Linux on the...wristwatch ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Will 2010 finally be the year of Linux on the...wristwatch?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_1538257.30911054</id>
	<title>Re:Diversity</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264505580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A monoculture for a monolithic kernel!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A monoculture for a monolithic kernel !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A monoculture for a monolithic kernel!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_1538257.30906396</id>
	<title>Re:Diversity</title>
	<author>SnarfQuest</author>
	<datestamp>1264528920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Diversity may be fine, but I'd prefer it if they limited it to just a few variants for the netbooks.</p><p>Id like to be able to learn how one netbook works, and then be able to use any of the others. If there are to many versions, this isn't likely to be the case. It would be like trying to find a specific configuration screen in the different versions of Windows. you know where it is under XP, but they've moved it in Vista, and moved it again in 7, and it may or may not exist in 98. I'd prefer niot to follow that path in the Linux world. All the Linux versions should try to do as much as possible in the same way no matter which netbook you buy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Diversity may be fine , but I 'd prefer it if they limited it to just a few variants for the netbooks.Id like to be able to learn how one netbook works , and then be able to use any of the others .
If there are to many versions , this is n't likely to be the case .
It would be like trying to find a specific configuration screen in the different versions of Windows .
you know where it is under XP , but they 've moved it in Vista , and moved it again in 7 , and it may or may not exist in 98 .
I 'd prefer niot to follow that path in the Linux world .
All the Linux versions should try to do as much as possible in the same way no matter which netbook you buy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Diversity may be fine, but I'd prefer it if they limited it to just a few variants for the netbooks.Id like to be able to learn how one netbook works, and then be able to use any of the others.
If there are to many versions, this isn't likely to be the case.
It would be like trying to find a specific configuration screen in the different versions of Windows.
you know where it is under XP, but they've moved it in Vista, and moved it again in 7, and it may or may not exist in 98.
I'd prefer niot to follow that path in the Linux world.
All the Linux versions should try to do as much as possible in the same way no matter which netbook you buy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_1538257.30908060</id>
	<title>LOLunix</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264535700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Lunix failed to move into the mobile marketplace when it had the opportunity presented by a wide open market... so now they've lost.</p><p>Major players like Apple and Microsoft are already well placed to capitalize on the mobile space, leaving Teh Lunix firmly in it's comfort zone of "last place thinking it's in first".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Lunix failed to move into the mobile marketplace when it had the opportunity presented by a wide open market... so now they 've lost.Major players like Apple and Microsoft are already well placed to capitalize on the mobile space , leaving Teh Lunix firmly in it 's comfort zone of " last place thinking it 's in first " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Lunix failed to move into the mobile marketplace when it had the opportunity presented by a wide open market... so now they've lost.Major players like Apple and Microsoft are already well placed to capitalize on the mobile space, leaving Teh Lunix firmly in it's comfort zone of "last place thinking it's in first".</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_1538257.30911748</id>
	<title>Re:Cloud Computing needs to go.</title>
	<author>oztiks</author>
	<datestamp>1264509840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes and No (re desktop). The corporate world is really buzzing with the word cloud. Almost every big brand has something out there and are continuing to develop rapidly to keep it going.</p><p>People want cheap, then they get upset that the Manufacturer finds a cheaper method of production? too bad because the Manufacturer knows that even though there are draw backs<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... Cheaper always wins the fight in the eyes of the masses.</p><p>Its too soon for Cloud, but its hardly a failure.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes and No ( re desktop ) .
The corporate world is really buzzing with the word cloud .
Almost every big brand has something out there and are continuing to develop rapidly to keep it going.People want cheap , then they get upset that the Manufacturer finds a cheaper method of production ?
too bad because the Manufacturer knows that even though there are draw backs ... Cheaper always wins the fight in the eyes of the masses.Its too soon for Cloud , but its hardly a failure .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes and No (re desktop).
The corporate world is really buzzing with the word cloud.
Almost every big brand has something out there and are continuing to develop rapidly to keep it going.People want cheap, then they get upset that the Manufacturer finds a cheaper method of production?
too bad because the Manufacturer knows that even though there are draw backs ... Cheaper always wins the fight in the eyes of the masses.Its too soon for Cloud, but its hardly a failure.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_1538257.30905876</id>
	<title>Re:Diversity</title>
	<author>Martin P. Hellwig</author>
	<datestamp>1264526940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The fears of a Linux monoculture are misinformed FUD, as long as Red Hat competes with Ubuntu competes with Suse, and so on.</p></div><p>You do know that officially 'linux' only refers to the kernel, which is actually a monoculture, though more by choice than anything else.<br>But then again, Microsoft is a monoculture by choice too.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The fears of a Linux monoculture are misinformed FUD , as long as Red Hat competes with Ubuntu competes with Suse , and so on.You do know that officially 'linux ' only refers to the kernel , which is actually a monoculture , though more by choice than anything else.But then again , Microsoft is a monoculture by choice too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The fears of a Linux monoculture are misinformed FUD, as long as Red Hat competes with Ubuntu competes with Suse, and so on.You do know that officially 'linux' only refers to the kernel, which is actually a monoculture, though more by choice than anything else.But then again, Microsoft is a monoculture by choice too.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_1538257.30906362</id>
	<title>Re:Cloud Computing needs to go.</title>
	<author>Neil Hodges</author>
	<datestamp>1264528800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Cloud computing will make more sense as Internet access improves further.  That means when the broadband providers and mobile phone services stop dragging their feet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Cloud computing will make more sense as Internet access improves further .
That means when the broadband providers and mobile phone services stop dragging their feet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cloud computing will make more sense as Internet access improves further.
That means when the broadband providers and mobile phone services stop dragging their feet.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_1538257.30911760</id>
	<title>Re:Cloud Computing needs to go.</title>
	<author>oztiks</author>
	<datestamp>1264509900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The problem is what could be vs what is.</p><p>Cloud computing would be great in theory if all PCs in the world could be setup so you simply login anywhere anytime and there is your personal desktop, files, apps, etc.</p><p>The problem being, our economical growth of the internet. The why today's internet is designed stops this from being a reality for at least another 10 years.</p><p>Large companies, Google, Microsoft, etc all adopt the reality that one day it can be a possible but unless we are all running super fast (IP6 of course) networks it is just a mere pipe dream.</p><p>As for data and the localization of data, I tend to agree with you on this but I also see the counter to this argument. The General Population hates internet security, virus' etc and the Cloud concept could solve a lot of today's traditional security problems, yet simply open up the avenue of new concepts as it goes (Google and China's  fiasco last week is an example of this). Its not we need to merely securify our PC's but now companies are left wondering<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... "is my website secure as well??"</p><p>Security brands will change their product to cater too it but for now its a great selling point. As people purchase Macs because of the security reputation behind them, people will chose Cloud for the same reason, PCI is a part of this marketing powerhouse that out for this at the moment and its more akin to paying protection money to the Mafia then it is an actual security methodology (I have my own rants for that for another time).</p><p>For today, measured Cloud computing works, NetSuite is a perfect example of this and a company which has no fear of failing tomorrow. I think Microsoft's abuse of the word "Cloud" computing is exactly whats wrong with Cloud today. The term is being used to sell everything they do. "Cloud this and cloud that". In reality its exactly what you say a "new words for old things".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The problem is what could be vs what is.Cloud computing would be great in theory if all PCs in the world could be setup so you simply login anywhere anytime and there is your personal desktop , files , apps , etc.The problem being , our economical growth of the internet .
The why today 's internet is designed stops this from being a reality for at least another 10 years.Large companies , Google , Microsoft , etc all adopt the reality that one day it can be a possible but unless we are all running super fast ( IP6 of course ) networks it is just a mere pipe dream.As for data and the localization of data , I tend to agree with you on this but I also see the counter to this argument .
The General Population hates internet security , virus ' etc and the Cloud concept could solve a lot of today 's traditional security problems , yet simply open up the avenue of new concepts as it goes ( Google and China 's fiasco last week is an example of this ) .
Its not we need to merely securify our PC 's but now companies are left wondering ... " is my website secure as well ? ?
" Security brands will change their product to cater too it but for now its a great selling point .
As people purchase Macs because of the security reputation behind them , people will chose Cloud for the same reason , PCI is a part of this marketing powerhouse that out for this at the moment and its more akin to paying protection money to the Mafia then it is an actual security methodology ( I have my own rants for that for another time ) .For today , measured Cloud computing works , NetSuite is a perfect example of this and a company which has no fear of failing tomorrow .
I think Microsoft 's abuse of the word " Cloud " computing is exactly whats wrong with Cloud today .
The term is being used to sell everything they do .
" Cloud this and cloud that " .
In reality its exactly what you say a " new words for old things " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The problem is what could be vs what is.Cloud computing would be great in theory if all PCs in the world could be setup so you simply login anywhere anytime and there is your personal desktop, files, apps, etc.The problem being, our economical growth of the internet.
The why today's internet is designed stops this from being a reality for at least another 10 years.Large companies, Google, Microsoft, etc all adopt the reality that one day it can be a possible but unless we are all running super fast (IP6 of course) networks it is just a mere pipe dream.As for data and the localization of data, I tend to agree with you on this but I also see the counter to this argument.
The General Population hates internet security, virus' etc and the Cloud concept could solve a lot of today's traditional security problems, yet simply open up the avenue of new concepts as it goes (Google and China's  fiasco last week is an example of this).
Its not we need to merely securify our PC's but now companies are left wondering ... "is my website secure as well??
"Security brands will change their product to cater too it but for now its a great selling point.
As people purchase Macs because of the security reputation behind them, people will chose Cloud for the same reason, PCI is a part of this marketing powerhouse that out for this at the moment and its more akin to paying protection money to the Mafia then it is an actual security methodology (I have my own rants for that for another time).For today, measured Cloud computing works, NetSuite is a perfect example of this and a company which has no fear of failing tomorrow.
I think Microsoft's abuse of the word "Cloud" computing is exactly whats wrong with Cloud today.
The term is being used to sell everything they do.
"Cloud this and cloud that".
In reality its exactly what you say a "new words for old things".</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_1538257.30910994</id>
	<title>Re:Cloud Computing needs to go.</title>
	<author>DragonWriter</author>
	<datestamp>1264505280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>The biggest hindrance so far has been Cloud Computing. Device manufacturers, rather than focusing on making their portables more powerful and useful on their own, have been banking on Cloud Computing to make their devices usable by offloading any strenuous processing.</p></div></blockquote><p>This is quite obviously false; device makers continue to make laptops and other portable devices where power is a central focus, or at least one of several key focusses along with price and battery life. That's why there are <b>note</b>books using Core-series processors, and, on the lower end of the scale,  <b>net</b>books using ION and the more powerful dual-core processors in the Atom line.</p><p>Device makers are <i>also</i> providing less-expensive, less-powerful portable devices that focus on non-power-user usage patterns that involve lots of web-browsing and light document editing, which don't require a lot of horsepower.</p><blockquote><div><p>What people want is basically their desktop system, with the ability to run arbitrary applications and store the data locally, but compacted down into a portable device that can be used on the go. They don't want to host their data on some third-party servers, they don't want to use web-based applications, and they don't want to have their application selection limited by a single vendor or network operator.</p></div></blockquote><p>I would suggest that not everyone wants what you think "people want", and that the market, both in terms of what gets made and what gets sold, reflect that diversity in interests.</p></div>
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<tokenext>The biggest hindrance so far has been Cloud Computing .
Device manufacturers , rather than focusing on making their portables more powerful and useful on their own , have been banking on Cloud Computing to make their devices usable by offloading any strenuous processing.This is quite obviously false ; device makers continue to make laptops and other portable devices where power is a central focus , or at least one of several key focusses along with price and battery life .
That 's why there are notebooks using Core-series processors , and , on the lower end of the scale , netbooks using ION and the more powerful dual-core processors in the Atom line.Device makers are also providing less-expensive , less-powerful portable devices that focus on non-power-user usage patterns that involve lots of web-browsing and light document editing , which do n't require a lot of horsepower.What people want is basically their desktop system , with the ability to run arbitrary applications and store the data locally , but compacted down into a portable device that can be used on the go .
They do n't want to host their data on some third-party servers , they do n't want to use web-based applications , and they do n't want to have their application selection limited by a single vendor or network operator.I would suggest that not everyone wants what you think " people want " , and that the market , both in terms of what gets made and what gets sold , reflect that diversity in interests .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The biggest hindrance so far has been Cloud Computing.
Device manufacturers, rather than focusing on making their portables more powerful and useful on their own, have been banking on Cloud Computing to make their devices usable by offloading any strenuous processing.This is quite obviously false; device makers continue to make laptops and other portable devices where power is a central focus, or at least one of several key focusses along with price and battery life.
That's why there are notebooks using Core-series processors, and, on the lower end of the scale,  netbooks using ION and the more powerful dual-core processors in the Atom line.Device makers are also providing less-expensive, less-powerful portable devices that focus on non-power-user usage patterns that involve lots of web-browsing and light document editing, which don't require a lot of horsepower.What people want is basically their desktop system, with the ability to run arbitrary applications and store the data locally, but compacted down into a portable device that can be used on the go.
They don't want to host their data on some third-party servers, they don't want to use web-based applications, and they don't want to have their application selection limited by a single vendor or network operator.I would suggest that not everyone wants what you think "people want", and that the market, both in terms of what gets made and what gets sold, reflect that diversity in interests.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_1538257.30906358</id>
	<title>The dream lives on</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264528800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>As Windows XP is phased out and the cost of bundling Windows 7 rises, manufacturers will be looking for a cheap and easily maintainable netbook OS</i> </p><p>Walmart.com currently stocks 125 Win 7 laptops. Fifty Win 7 desktops.*</p><p>The retailer is looking for sales.</p><p>Which Windows and Win 7 have proven they can deliver. <a href="http://marketshare.hitslink.com/os-market-share.aspx?qprid=11" title="hitslink.com" rel="nofollow">Top Operating System Share Trend</a> [hitslink.com] </p><p>This isn't rocket science.</p><p>The buyer sees the Win 7 Atom netbook on sale with a 10' screen and a 250 GB hard drive.</p><p>What to fill it with?</p><p>He has tons of Windows software at home which will load and run without a problem.</p><p>Software he knows.</p><p> Software he uses. Software he likes.<br>\_\_\_\_\_</p><p>* But only two netbooks in stores. That's a fast fade-out even by Walmart standards.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As Windows XP is phased out and the cost of bundling Windows 7 rises , manufacturers will be looking for a cheap and easily maintainable netbook OS Walmart.com currently stocks 125 Win 7 laptops .
Fifty Win 7 desktops .
* The retailer is looking for sales.Which Windows and Win 7 have proven they can deliver .
Top Operating System Share Trend [ hitslink.com ] This is n't rocket science.The buyer sees the Win 7 Atom netbook on sale with a 10 ' screen and a 250 GB hard drive.What to fill it with ? He has tons of Windows software at home which will load and run without a problem.Software he knows .
Software he uses .
Software he likes. \ _ \ _ \ _ \ _ \ _ * But only two netbooks in stores .
That 's a fast fade-out even by Walmart standards .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As Windows XP is phased out and the cost of bundling Windows 7 rises, manufacturers will be looking for a cheap and easily maintainable netbook OS Walmart.com currently stocks 125 Win 7 laptops.
Fifty Win 7 desktops.
*The retailer is looking for sales.Which Windows and Win 7 have proven they can deliver.
Top Operating System Share Trend [hitslink.com] This isn't rocket science.The buyer sees the Win 7 Atom netbook on sale with a 10' screen and a 250 GB hard drive.What to fill it with?He has tons of Windows software at home which will load and run without a problem.Software he knows.
Software he uses.
Software he likes.\_\_\_\_\_* But only two netbooks in stores.
That's a fast fade-out even by Walmart standards.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_1538257.30905850</id>
	<title>YUo hFAIL IT</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264526820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>of i7s 3ore</htmltext>
<tokenext>of i7s 3ore</tokentext>
<sentencetext>of i7s 3ore</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_1538257.30907388</id>
	<title>Re:Missing ones</title>
	<author>Nick Novitski</author>
	<datestamp>1264533060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'd also like to nominate A(dot)ngstrom and <a href="http://www.openpandora.org/" title="openpandora.org" rel="nofollow">the Pandora</a> [openpandora.org], the most powerful portable gaming system (or, the most game-friendly portable full-featured computer) yet created.  It should be out Real Soon Now.  I'd say "Order yours today!" but I want them all to myself.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd also like to nominate A ( dot ) ngstrom and the Pandora [ openpandora.org ] , the most powerful portable gaming system ( or , the most game-friendly portable full-featured computer ) yet created .
It should be out Real Soon Now .
I 'd say " Order yours today !
" but I want them all to myself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd also like to nominate A(dot)ngstrom and the Pandora [openpandora.org], the most powerful portable gaming system (or, the most game-friendly portable full-featured computer) yet created.
It should be out Real Soon Now.
I'd say "Order yours today!
" but I want them all to myself.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_1538257.30906438</id>
	<title>Re:Cloud Computing needs to go.</title>
	<author>PRMan</author>
	<datestamp>1264529040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Exactly.  I put Windows 7 Ultimate on my $279 EEEPC 900 and I love it.  What a great portable machine that does almost everything.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Exactly .
I put Windows 7 Ultimate on my $ 279 EEEPC 900 and I love it .
What a great portable machine that does almost everything .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Exactly.
I put Windows 7 Ultimate on my $279 EEEPC 900 and I love it.
What a great portable machine that does almost everything.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_1538257.30906956</id>
	<title>Re:The dream lives on</title>
	<author>langelgjm</author>
	<datestamp>1264531260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>He has tons of Windows software at home which will load and run without a problem.

Software he knows.

Software he uses. Software he likes.</p></div><p>What Windows-only software lacks a reasonable open-source or Linux equivalent and would also be useful on a netbook?</p><p>People seem to use netbooks to... browse the web. Maybe listen to music. Work on documents. I suppose you could argue Microsoft Office, etc. I've seen someone using Word 2007 on a netbook. It was pathetic - the ribbon takes up way too much screen real estate on a netbook. Also, I guess people are pirating Office to run on their netbooks - who in their right mind is going to spend $250 to $300 on the netbook, then turn around and throw down another $100 to $300 for Office? I guess you can get it pre-installed for less.</p><p>Games, maybe. But any serious game isn't going to fun on a netbook, and probably won't run well anyway.</p><p>Actually the average netbook buyer can't load their "home" software onto their netbook, because their netbook doesn't have a CD drive. They have to download it, which either means pirating Windows apps or downloading free Windows apps. And free Windows apps likely have a free Linux equivalent that is easily downloadable (or better yet installable via a package manager).</p><p>I just wish there were some decent ARM offerings on the market - beating the Intel Atoms on battery life and price. Anyway, my point is that I really doubt the average netbook user has a bunch of Windows-only apps that are forcing them to remain with Win 7. I've installed two Win 7 machines so far, and the screen dimming every 30 seconds is enough to keep it away from my desk for good.</p></div>
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<tokenext>He has tons of Windows software at home which will load and run without a problem .
Software he knows .
Software he uses .
Software he likes.What Windows-only software lacks a reasonable open-source or Linux equivalent and would also be useful on a netbook ? People seem to use netbooks to... browse the web .
Maybe listen to music .
Work on documents .
I suppose you could argue Microsoft Office , etc .
I 've seen someone using Word 2007 on a netbook .
It was pathetic - the ribbon takes up way too much screen real estate on a netbook .
Also , I guess people are pirating Office to run on their netbooks - who in their right mind is going to spend $ 250 to $ 300 on the netbook , then turn around and throw down another $ 100 to $ 300 for Office ?
I guess you can get it pre-installed for less.Games , maybe .
But any serious game is n't going to fun on a netbook , and probably wo n't run well anyway.Actually the average netbook buyer ca n't load their " home " software onto their netbook , because their netbook does n't have a CD drive .
They have to download it , which either means pirating Windows apps or downloading free Windows apps .
And free Windows apps likely have a free Linux equivalent that is easily downloadable ( or better yet installable via a package manager ) .I just wish there were some decent ARM offerings on the market - beating the Intel Atoms on battery life and price .
Anyway , my point is that I really doubt the average netbook user has a bunch of Windows-only apps that are forcing them to remain with Win 7 .
I 've installed two Win 7 machines so far , and the screen dimming every 30 seconds is enough to keep it away from my desk for good .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He has tons of Windows software at home which will load and run without a problem.
Software he knows.
Software he uses.
Software he likes.What Windows-only software lacks a reasonable open-source or Linux equivalent and would also be useful on a netbook?People seem to use netbooks to... browse the web.
Maybe listen to music.
Work on documents.
I suppose you could argue Microsoft Office, etc.
I've seen someone using Word 2007 on a netbook.
It was pathetic - the ribbon takes up way too much screen real estate on a netbook.
Also, I guess people are pirating Office to run on their netbooks - who in their right mind is going to spend $250 to $300 on the netbook, then turn around and throw down another $100 to $300 for Office?
I guess you can get it pre-installed for less.Games, maybe.
But any serious game isn't going to fun on a netbook, and probably won't run well anyway.Actually the average netbook buyer can't load their "home" software onto their netbook, because their netbook doesn't have a CD drive.
They have to download it, which either means pirating Windows apps or downloading free Windows apps.
And free Windows apps likely have a free Linux equivalent that is easily downloadable (or better yet installable via a package manager).I just wish there were some decent ARM offerings on the market - beating the Intel Atoms on battery life and price.
Anyway, my point is that I really doubt the average netbook user has a bunch of Windows-only apps that are forcing them to remain with Win 7.
I've installed two Win 7 machines so far, and the screen dimming every 30 seconds is enough to keep it away from my desk for good.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_1538257.30906734</id>
	<title>Waiting...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264530240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>UNR is crap. It's just Ubuntu with an even more buggy UI thrown over. I'm currently using 8.04 LTS and it's probably the best distro my netbook has tried to date (which pretty much includes all of them that matter).</p><p>That said, I'm very excited and waiting for Lubuntu. Very excited to see what comes from it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>UNR is crap .
It 's just Ubuntu with an even more buggy UI thrown over .
I 'm currently using 8.04 LTS and it 's probably the best distro my netbook has tried to date ( which pretty much includes all of them that matter ) .That said , I 'm very excited and waiting for Lubuntu .
Very excited to see what comes from it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>UNR is crap.
It's just Ubuntu with an even more buggy UI thrown over.
I'm currently using 8.04 LTS and it's probably the best distro my netbook has tried to date (which pretty much includes all of them that matter).That said, I'm very excited and waiting for Lubuntu.
Very excited to see what comes from it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_1538257.30905812</id>
	<title>Do we really need these</title>
	<author>malignant\_minded</author>
	<datestamp>1264526700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>From what I have seen the NBR only does some hotkey mappings, fullscreen force, and that annoying (my opinion of course) navigation thingy to get to your applications.  On my eeepc 1000H I prefered to just install the full version and fix the few things wrong.  Couldn't the install just run like a dmidecode and then say hey your running a netbook model blah blah blah do you want the hotkey mappings?</htmltext>
<tokenext>From what I have seen the NBR only does some hotkey mappings , fullscreen force , and that annoying ( my opinion of course ) navigation thingy to get to your applications .
On my eeepc 1000H I prefered to just install the full version and fix the few things wrong .
Could n't the install just run like a dmidecode and then say hey your running a netbook model blah blah blah do you want the hotkey mappings ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From what I have seen the NBR only does some hotkey mappings, fullscreen force, and that annoying (my opinion of course) navigation thingy to get to your applications.
On my eeepc 1000H I prefered to just install the full version and fix the few things wrong.
Couldn't the install just run like a dmidecode and then say hey your running a netbook model blah blah blah do you want the hotkey mappings?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_1538257.30913272</id>
	<title>UNR is not mobile</title>
	<author>kriston</author>
	<datestamp>1264523400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ubuntu Netbook Remix is not mobile.  It is mobile in name and user interface, but certainly not by its architecture.  It should have all of the usual read/write bits mounted on a ramdisk so as to not use the flash drive (or hard disk) for anything.  It should also have tweaked Mozilla to also use ramdisk for its temporary storage.  And don't log errors anywhere.  Don't load a zillion daemons.  Don't load the regular kernel.<br>Just be more like Damn Small Linux, Familiar, or the Eee PC and Acer Aspire One's systems.</p><p>UNR is not mobile in anything but GUI.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ubuntu Netbook Remix is not mobile .
It is mobile in name and user interface , but certainly not by its architecture .
It should have all of the usual read/write bits mounted on a ramdisk so as to not use the flash drive ( or hard disk ) for anything .
It should also have tweaked Mozilla to also use ramdisk for its temporary storage .
And do n't log errors anywhere .
Do n't load a zillion daemons .
Do n't load the regular kernel.Just be more like Damn Small Linux , Familiar , or the Eee PC and Acer Aspire One 's systems.UNR is not mobile in anything but GUI .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ubuntu Netbook Remix is not mobile.
It is mobile in name and user interface, but certainly not by its architecture.
It should have all of the usual read/write bits mounted on a ramdisk so as to not use the flash drive (or hard disk) for anything.
It should also have tweaked Mozilla to also use ramdisk for its temporary storage.
And don't log errors anywhere.
Don't load a zillion daemons.
Don't load the regular kernel.Just be more like Damn Small Linux, Familiar, or the Eee PC and Acer Aspire One's systems.UNR is not mobile in anything but GUI.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_1538257.30906796</id>
	<title>Re:Cloud Computing needs to go.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264530540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>As we've seen so far, Cloud Computing is a failure in virtually all cases</i></p><p>Details I need details... That is just a wild accusation.</p><p>I have seen Cloud Computing succeeding far more then it fails.  As well it has opened up the gates so people on different environments can run the same application.</p><p>People don't care if it is their desktop system.  They want to run what they want and when... They really don't care if it on a server or on their computer. They want the data they are looking for, and the program to run quick enough.</p><p>Why does cloud computing limit people to a single vender or network operator?  I can use Bing Maps and Gmail...</p><p>Oddly enough your data is safer in the cloud then in most peoples hands.  Sure you can get the geeky with their own raid and offsite backups... However that isn't the real case. The cloud allows you to put your data in a place where it will have some real infrastructure behind it.  And not just one drop away from being lost, and easily stolen.</p><p>Even for me the Cloud has saved my butt more then once, The times the Cloud has failed on me was a minor inconvenience...</p><p>Just because RMS makes a Rant about the Evil cloud.  It doesn't make him right,  He just likes to rant about stuff and be overall negitive about anything he didn't think of himself.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As we 've seen so far , Cloud Computing is a failure in virtually all casesDetails I need details... That is just a wild accusation.I have seen Cloud Computing succeeding far more then it fails .
As well it has opened up the gates so people on different environments can run the same application.People do n't care if it is their desktop system .
They want to run what they want and when... They really do n't care if it on a server or on their computer .
They want the data they are looking for , and the program to run quick enough.Why does cloud computing limit people to a single vender or network operator ?
I can use Bing Maps and Gmail...Oddly enough your data is safer in the cloud then in most peoples hands .
Sure you can get the geeky with their own raid and offsite backups... However that is n't the real case .
The cloud allows you to put your data in a place where it will have some real infrastructure behind it .
And not just one drop away from being lost , and easily stolen.Even for me the Cloud has saved my butt more then once , The times the Cloud has failed on me was a minor inconvenience...Just because RMS makes a Rant about the Evil cloud .
It does n't make him right , He just likes to rant about stuff and be overall negitive about anything he did n't think of himself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As we've seen so far, Cloud Computing is a failure in virtually all casesDetails I need details... That is just a wild accusation.I have seen Cloud Computing succeeding far more then it fails.
As well it has opened up the gates so people on different environments can run the same application.People don't care if it is their desktop system.
They want to run what they want and when... They really don't care if it on a server or on their computer.
They want the data they are looking for, and the program to run quick enough.Why does cloud computing limit people to a single vender or network operator?
I can use Bing Maps and Gmail...Oddly enough your data is safer in the cloud then in most peoples hands.
Sure you can get the geeky with their own raid and offsite backups... However that isn't the real case.
The cloud allows you to put your data in a place where it will have some real infrastructure behind it.
And not just one drop away from being lost, and easily stolen.Even for me the Cloud has saved my butt more then once, The times the Cloud has failed on me was a minor inconvenience...Just because RMS makes a Rant about the Evil cloud.
It doesn't make him right,  He just likes to rant about stuff and be overall negitive about anything he didn't think of himself.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_1538257.30943362</id>
	<title>ARM may be the key</title>
	<author>ALeader71</author>
	<datestamp>1264681440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Right now, the majority of tablet devices use ARM processors.  If this continues and M$ is creating an ARM-friendly version, linux could be the OS of choice.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Right now , the majority of tablet devices use ARM processors .
If this continues and M $ is creating an ARM-friendly version , linux could be the OS of choice .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Right now, the majority of tablet devices use ARM processors.
If this continues and M$ is creating an ARM-friendly version, linux could be the OS of choice.</sentencetext>
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	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_1538257.30906930</id>
	<title>Re:The dream lives on</title>
	<author>LWATCDR</author>
	<datestamp>1264531140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What software?<br>The only software that I buy these days is stuff that will not run on a netbook at all.<br>Games like FSX and TurboCAD.<br>Most home users tend to use web stuff, Quicken, maybe games,  maybe Office but more and more people I know are going to OpenOffice because it is free.<br>I am not saying that there isn't a market for Windows 7 netbooks but I think you are missing just how much software developers would love a new platform.<br>Let's say that we start to see ARM+Linux netbooks start to take off. Adobe will offer an inexpensive update to Phototshop Elements for those people and make some money.<br>Quicken will offer a new version of QuickBooks for those people.</p><p>I think the iPhone, Palm Pre, and Android have shown users that they don't have to use windows and their old software anymore. Going to a new platform can give them new tools. It has show developers that they can charge very little for a program but make good money.<br>Add in that an ARM+Linux netbook could cost less than a Windows machine and run longer and do more and you may have enough motivation to get people to change.<br>The problem is that everybody seems to be stuck thinking that Computer==Windows. Maybe smartbooks or tablets well be different enough that they will not make that leap.<br>A big help would be an app store. Hey since they don't have optical drives it will be the way that most people will put software on them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What software ? The only software that I buy these days is stuff that will not run on a netbook at all.Games like FSX and TurboCAD.Most home users tend to use web stuff , Quicken , maybe games , maybe Office but more and more people I know are going to OpenOffice because it is free.I am not saying that there is n't a market for Windows 7 netbooks but I think you are missing just how much software developers would love a new platform.Let 's say that we start to see ARM + Linux netbooks start to take off .
Adobe will offer an inexpensive update to Phototshop Elements for those people and make some money.Quicken will offer a new version of QuickBooks for those people.I think the iPhone , Palm Pre , and Android have shown users that they do n't have to use windows and their old software anymore .
Going to a new platform can give them new tools .
It has show developers that they can charge very little for a program but make good money.Add in that an ARM + Linux netbook could cost less than a Windows machine and run longer and do more and you may have enough motivation to get people to change.The problem is that everybody seems to be stuck thinking that Computer = = Windows .
Maybe smartbooks or tablets well be different enough that they will not make that leap.A big help would be an app store .
Hey since they do n't have optical drives it will be the way that most people will put software on them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What software?The only software that I buy these days is stuff that will not run on a netbook at all.Games like FSX and TurboCAD.Most home users tend to use web stuff, Quicken, maybe games,  maybe Office but more and more people I know are going to OpenOffice because it is free.I am not saying that there isn't a market for Windows 7 netbooks but I think you are missing just how much software developers would love a new platform.Let's say that we start to see ARM+Linux netbooks start to take off.
Adobe will offer an inexpensive update to Phototshop Elements for those people and make some money.Quicken will offer a new version of QuickBooks for those people.I think the iPhone, Palm Pre, and Android have shown users that they don't have to use windows and their old software anymore.
Going to a new platform can give them new tools.
It has show developers that they can charge very little for a program but make good money.Add in that an ARM+Linux netbook could cost less than a Windows machine and run longer and do more and you may have enough motivation to get people to change.The problem is that everybody seems to be stuck thinking that Computer==Windows.
Maybe smartbooks or tablets well be different enough that they will not make that leap.A big help would be an app store.
Hey since they don't have optical drives it will be the way that most people will put software on them.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_1538257.30905544</id>
	<title>Diversity</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264525800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Long live diversity. Arguably, one of MS's greatest weaknesses right now is its lack of diversity (ARM et al). The fact that they have conceded to continue selling xp on netbooks is the major reason they haven't been shut out of the growing netbook segment entirely.</p><p>Linux, meanwhile, is in every growing market, and although I may run only 2 or three distros personally, these benefit from the work done in dozens of other distros. The fears of a Linux monoculture are misinformed FUD, as long as Red Hat competes with Ubuntu competes with Suse, and so on.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Long live diversity .
Arguably , one of MS 's greatest weaknesses right now is its lack of diversity ( ARM et al ) .
The fact that they have conceded to continue selling xp on netbooks is the major reason they have n't been shut out of the growing netbook segment entirely.Linux , meanwhile , is in every growing market , and although I may run only 2 or three distros personally , these benefit from the work done in dozens of other distros .
The fears of a Linux monoculture are misinformed FUD , as long as Red Hat competes with Ubuntu competes with Suse , and so on .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Long live diversity.
Arguably, one of MS's greatest weaknesses right now is its lack of diversity (ARM et al).
The fact that they have conceded to continue selling xp on netbooks is the major reason they haven't been shut out of the growing netbook segment entirely.Linux, meanwhile, is in every growing market, and although I may run only 2 or three distros personally, these benefit from the work done in dozens of other distros.
The fears of a Linux monoculture are misinformed FUD, as long as Red Hat competes with Ubuntu competes with Suse, and so on.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_1538257.30905558</id>
	<title>Missing ones</title>
	<author>gmuslera</author>
	<datestamp>1264525860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If well aren't so focused on netbooks, Maemo should be included. Nokia N900 looks more like a subnotebook than a cellphone.

</p><p>Some tiny, but damn fast linux mini-distros like i.e. <a href="http://www.slitaz.org/en/" title="slitaz.org" rel="nofollow">SliTaz</a> [slitaz.org] could be interesting to put on the mix.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If well are n't so focused on netbooks , Maemo should be included .
Nokia N900 looks more like a subnotebook than a cellphone .
Some tiny , but damn fast linux mini-distros like i.e .
SliTaz [ slitaz.org ] could be interesting to put on the mix .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If well aren't so focused on netbooks, Maemo should be included.
Nokia N900 looks more like a subnotebook than a cellphone.
Some tiny, but damn fast linux mini-distros like i.e.
SliTaz [slitaz.org] could be interesting to put on the mix.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_1538257.30906920</id>
	<title>Re:The dream lives on</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264531080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's quite a netbook to have a 10-foot screen. Most of the netbooks I've seen top out at about 11".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's quite a netbook to have a 10-foot screen .
Most of the netbooks I 've seen top out at about 11 " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's quite a netbook to have a 10-foot screen.
Most of the netbooks I've seen top out at about 11".</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_1538257.30906886</id>
	<title>Re:Cloud Computing needs to go.</title>
	<author>farble1670</author>
	<datestamp>1264530900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"They don't want to host their data on some third-party servers,"</p><p>yes, the average person *loves* to manage their own backups.</p><p>i have an android phone. my pictures, music, calendar, mail, videos, and contacts are all in the cloud. it all works quite well for me.</p><p>it's not as simple as connected or not. intelligent client apps cache data locally and sync it when there's a connection.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" They do n't want to host their data on some third-party servers , " yes , the average person * loves * to manage their own backups.i have an android phone .
my pictures , music , calendar , mail , videos , and contacts are all in the cloud .
it all works quite well for me.it 's not as simple as connected or not .
intelligent client apps cache data locally and sync it when there 's a connection .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"They don't want to host their data on some third-party servers,"yes, the average person *loves* to manage their own backups.i have an android phone.
my pictures, music, calendar, mail, videos, and contacts are all in the cloud.
it all works quite well for me.it's not as simple as connected or not.
intelligent client apps cache data locally and sync it when there's a connection.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_26_1538257.30910302</id>
	<title>Re:Cloud Computing needs to go.</title>
	<author>SomeKDEUser</author>
	<datestamp>1264502160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Be happy !</p><p>Once again opensource will save the day be providing the infrastructure for doing the right thing. Doing it well, Doing it for the user.</p><p><a href="http://dot.kde.org/2010/01/24/kde-gears-free-cloud" title="kde.org">http://dot.kde.org/2010/01/24/kde-gears-free-cloud</a> [kde.org]</p><p>It will work because it is essentially there to help, and not generate a revenue stream, which implies preying on your data, on your privacy, or your goodwill.</p><p>For the lazy, it is the KDE project for cloud computing. A platform for distribution, backup and revisionning of data and apps. Encrypted. Local as well as distant. Robust. And you get to control both client and server.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Be happy ! Once again opensource will save the day be providing the infrastructure for doing the right thing .
Doing it well , Doing it for the user.http : //dot.kde.org/2010/01/24/kde-gears-free-cloud [ kde.org ] It will work because it is essentially there to help , and not generate a revenue stream , which implies preying on your data , on your privacy , or your goodwill.For the lazy , it is the KDE project for cloud computing .
A platform for distribution , backup and revisionning of data and apps .
Encrypted. Local as well as distant .
Robust. And you get to control both client and server .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Be happy !Once again opensource will save the day be providing the infrastructure for doing the right thing.
Doing it well, Doing it for the user.http://dot.kde.org/2010/01/24/kde-gears-free-cloud [kde.org]It will work because it is essentially there to help, and not generate a revenue stream, which implies preying on your data, on your privacy, or your goodwill.For the lazy, it is the KDE project for cloud computing.
A platform for distribution, backup and revisionning of data and apps.
Encrypted. Local as well as distant.
Robust. And you get to control both client and server.</sentencetext>
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