<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_01_25_0654253</id>
	<title>PS3 Hacked?</title>
	<author>Soulskill</author>
	<datestamp>1264419300000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>Several readers have sent word that George Hotz (a.k.a. geohot), the hacker best known <a href="http://tech.slashdot.org/story/07/08/24/1858252/iPhone-Freed-From-ATampT-Twice">for unlocking</a> <a href="http://apple.slashdot.org/story/09/07/05/2112245/iPhone-3GS-Finally-Hacked">Apple's iPhone</a>, says <a href="http://geohotps3.blogspot.com/2010/01/hello-hypervisor-im-geohot.html">he has now hacked the PlayStation 3</a>. From his blog post:
 <i>"I have read/write access to the entire system memory, and HV level access to the processor. In other words, I have hacked the PS3. The rest is just software. And reversing. I have a lot of reversing ahead of me, as I now have dumps of LV0 and LV1. I've also dumped the NAND without removing it or a modchip. 3 years, 2 months, 11 days...that's a pretty secure system. ... As far as the exploit goes, I'm not revealing it yet. The theory isn't really patchable, but they can make implementations much harder. Also, for obvious reasons I can't post dumps. I'm hoping to find the decryption keys and post them, but they may be embedded in hardware. Hopefully keys are setup like the iPhone's KBAG."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>Several readers have sent word that George Hotz ( a.k.a .
geohot ) , the hacker best known for unlocking Apple 's iPhone , says he has now hacked the PlayStation 3 .
From his blog post : " I have read/write access to the entire system memory , and HV level access to the processor .
In other words , I have hacked the PS3 .
The rest is just software .
And reversing .
I have a lot of reversing ahead of me , as I now have dumps of LV0 and LV1 .
I 've also dumped the NAND without removing it or a modchip .
3 years , 2 months , 11 days...that 's a pretty secure system .
... As far as the exploit goes , I 'm not revealing it yet .
The theory is n't really patchable , but they can make implementations much harder .
Also , for obvious reasons I ca n't post dumps .
I 'm hoping to find the decryption keys and post them , but they may be embedded in hardware .
Hopefully keys are setup like the iPhone 's KBAG .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Several readers have sent word that George Hotz (a.k.a.
geohot), the hacker best known for unlocking Apple's iPhone, says he has now hacked the PlayStation 3.
From his blog post:
 "I have read/write access to the entire system memory, and HV level access to the processor.
In other words, I have hacked the PS3.
The rest is just software.
And reversing.
I have a lot of reversing ahead of me, as I now have dumps of LV0 and LV1.
I've also dumped the NAND without removing it or a modchip.
3 years, 2 months, 11 days...that's a pretty secure system.
... As far as the exploit goes, I'm not revealing it yet.
The theory isn't really patchable, but they can make implementations much harder.
Also, for obvious reasons I can't post dumps.
I'm hoping to find the decryption keys and post them, but they may be embedded in hardware.
Hopefully keys are setup like the iPhone's KBAG.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30888732</id>
	<title>Re:Blame Sony, not the hacker</title>
	<author>DrXym</author>
	<datestamp>1264428540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm sure some people would like to run homebrew on a PS3 just like they want to run homebrew on a DS or PSP. But these people are a tiny fraction compared to what the modded firmware would mostly be used for - piracy.
<p>
I think if Sony were smart (and it doesn't happen often), they'll bring back Linux on the PS3 and open up the GPU a bit more. Linux is perfectly adequate for homebrew applications while still preventing users from running pirated games. If they can tell homebrewers apart from pirates they have a far better chance of going after the latter.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sure some people would like to run homebrew on a PS3 just like they want to run homebrew on a DS or PSP .
But these people are a tiny fraction compared to what the modded firmware would mostly be used for - piracy .
I think if Sony were smart ( and it does n't happen often ) , they 'll bring back Linux on the PS3 and open up the GPU a bit more .
Linux is perfectly adequate for homebrew applications while still preventing users from running pirated games .
If they can tell homebrewers apart from pirates they have a far better chance of going after the latter .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sure some people would like to run homebrew on a PS3 just like they want to run homebrew on a DS or PSP.
But these people are a tiny fraction compared to what the modded firmware would mostly be used for - piracy.
I think if Sony were smart (and it doesn't happen often), they'll bring back Linux on the PS3 and open up the GPU a bit more.
Linux is perfectly adequate for homebrew applications while still preventing users from running pirated games.
If they can tell homebrewers apart from pirates they have a far better chance of going after the latter.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30888302</id>
	<title>ENGLISH. DO YOU SPEAK IT?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264424220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>more text goes here, gist of it is in the subject</htmltext>
<tokenext>more text goes here , gist of it is in the subject</tokentext>
<sentencetext>more text goes here, gist of it is in the subject</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30900978</id>
	<title>Re:Cheating</title>
	<author>drkim</author>
	<datestamp>1264448820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Actually, your car already has a lot of this stuff:
<br> <br>
It 'dings' if you don't use your belt. It won't start if you don't have the key. Some GPS can't be interacted with when you're moving.
<br> <br>
Microsoft already checks for pirate OS, Google assumes a "Moderate" safe search on images.
<br> <br>
A lot of things are there to "protect us from ourselves."
<br> <br>
Google is even coming out with <a href="http://news.cnet.com/google-launches-mail-goggles-to-save-you-from-yourself/" title="cnet.com" rel="nofollow">an app</a> [cnet.com] to keep you from "drunk texting" (Your boss! Your ex! )</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , your car already has a lot of this stuff : It 'dings ' if you do n't use your belt .
It wo n't start if you do n't have the key .
Some GPS ca n't be interacted with when you 're moving .
Microsoft already checks for pirate OS , Google assumes a " Moderate " safe search on images .
A lot of things are there to " protect us from ourselves .
" Google is even coming out with an app [ cnet.com ] to keep you from " drunk texting " ( Your boss !
Your ex !
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, your car already has a lot of this stuff:
 
It 'dings' if you don't use your belt.
It won't start if you don't have the key.
Some GPS can't be interacted with when you're moving.
Microsoft already checks for pirate OS, Google assumes a "Moderate" safe search on images.
A lot of things are there to "protect us from ourselves.
"
 
Google is even coming out with an app [cnet.com] to keep you from "drunk texting" (Your boss!
Your ex!
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30888554</id>
	<title>Blame Sony, not the hacker</title>
	<author>Opportunist</author>
	<datestamp>1264426800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Before anyone goes "oh, this is only so people can play copies and cheat".</p><p>Read the other comments. See what people would like out of their PS3. They want to do "real" homebrew software, with full hardware access instead of the castrated version Sony "allows". They want to use their PS3 as a Media Center, something that's simply impossible with the current setup.</p><p>Give the people what they want and they will not crack your hardware open. Sure, some will do it for the "going to the moon" reason (it's there, and we can), but most will want their box to do what they want to do. If the box does it, no hacking will happen.</p><p>I modded my old XBox. Why? Because I wanted to run XBMC. It wanted a way to stream my movies on my HD to my TV easily. The XBox was there, a TV card for my computer wasn't (the SVideo output was really crappy), so it was a no brainer that I'd want my XBox which had logically a good TV compatible output to do the trick. It didn't do it out of the box, so it was modded. Oddly, I never bought a single game ever since, wonder why that could be...</p><p>Bottom line, when people "hack" a platform, they will of course strip all copy restriction as well, simply because it limits the ability of the box and it's possible. If you want to keep your users from hacking their box, give the box any ability your users might want to get out of it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Before anyone goes " oh , this is only so people can play copies and cheat " .Read the other comments .
See what people would like out of their PS3 .
They want to do " real " homebrew software , with full hardware access instead of the castrated version Sony " allows " .
They want to use their PS3 as a Media Center , something that 's simply impossible with the current setup.Give the people what they want and they will not crack your hardware open .
Sure , some will do it for the " going to the moon " reason ( it 's there , and we can ) , but most will want their box to do what they want to do .
If the box does it , no hacking will happen.I modded my old XBox .
Why ? Because I wanted to run XBMC .
It wanted a way to stream my movies on my HD to my TV easily .
The XBox was there , a TV card for my computer was n't ( the SVideo output was really crappy ) , so it was a no brainer that I 'd want my XBox which had logically a good TV compatible output to do the trick .
It did n't do it out of the box , so it was modded .
Oddly , I never bought a single game ever since , wonder why that could be...Bottom line , when people " hack " a platform , they will of course strip all copy restriction as well , simply because it limits the ability of the box and it 's possible .
If you want to keep your users from hacking their box , give the box any ability your users might want to get out of it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Before anyone goes "oh, this is only so people can play copies and cheat".Read the other comments.
See what people would like out of their PS3.
They want to do "real" homebrew software, with full hardware access instead of the castrated version Sony "allows".
They want to use their PS3 as a Media Center, something that's simply impossible with the current setup.Give the people what they want and they will not crack your hardware open.
Sure, some will do it for the "going to the moon" reason (it's there, and we can), but most will want their box to do what they want to do.
If the box does it, no hacking will happen.I modded my old XBox.
Why? Because I wanted to run XBMC.
It wanted a way to stream my movies on my HD to my TV easily.
The XBox was there, a TV card for my computer wasn't (the SVideo output was really crappy), so it was a no brainer that I'd want my XBox which had logically a good TV compatible output to do the trick.
It didn't do it out of the box, so it was modded.
Oddly, I never bought a single game ever since, wonder why that could be...Bottom line, when people "hack" a platform, they will of course strip all copy restriction as well, simply because it limits the ability of the box and it's possible.
If you want to keep your users from hacking their box, give the box any ability your users might want to get out of it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30889758</id>
	<title>Re:I really want XBMC-HD for PS3</title>
	<author>xtracto</author>
	<datestamp>1264434000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Geez, I would conform if the PS3 could play PAL DVDs!</p><p>There I was, visiting my brother. At his home he has the PS3 with a big LCD screen and whatnot. Unfortunately for me, when I try playing a PAL DVD which I bought in Europe (nope, no NTSC version available at all), the damn thing won't play it. LOL even my Wii can play NTSC/PAL DVDs...</p><p>I hope that this crack leads to, as you say, a port of HBMC or any other media player that fixes PS3 broken software.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Geez , I would conform if the PS3 could play PAL DVDs ! There I was , visiting my brother .
At his home he has the PS3 with a big LCD screen and whatnot .
Unfortunately for me , when I try playing a PAL DVD which I bought in Europe ( nope , no NTSC version available at all ) , the damn thing wo n't play it .
LOL even my Wii can play NTSC/PAL DVDs...I hope that this crack leads to , as you say , a port of HBMC or any other media player that fixes PS3 broken software .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Geez, I would conform if the PS3 could play PAL DVDs!There I was, visiting my brother.
At his home he has the PS3 with a big LCD screen and whatnot.
Unfortunately for me, when I try playing a PAL DVD which I bought in Europe (nope, no NTSC version available at all), the damn thing won't play it.
LOL even my Wii can play NTSC/PAL DVDs...I hope that this crack leads to, as you say, a port of HBMC or any other media player that fixes PS3 broken software.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30890930</id>
	<title>Re:Blame Sony, not the hacker</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264438260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sure they do. And unlocking the ability to play pirated games is just a nasty, unfortunate side-effect that only a small minority of console hackers will use (only around 99.0\% to 99.9\%).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sure they do .
And unlocking the ability to play pirated games is just a nasty , unfortunate side-effect that only a small minority of console hackers will use ( only around 99.0 \ % to 99.9 \ % ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sure they do.
And unlocking the ability to play pirated games is just a nasty, unfortunate side-effect that only a small minority of console hackers will use (only around 99.0\% to 99.9\%).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30889146</id>
	<title>Re:Cheating</title>
	<author>Publikwerks</author>
	<datestamp>1264431420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's not like this is some sort of surprise going in. I know you feel you should have access to everything, and you do(the hacker just proved it). But that doesn't mean Sony has to make it easy for you. <br>In a way, it is just like Vehicle manufactures. Cars all have proprietary systems, both in hardware and software, that have been increasing tough for independent garages to keep up with. There is a firewall to isolate you from the working components of the car. And if you try to 'mod' your car, you can actually go to jail for operating it on the network(streets). In a way, cars are far more restrictive that the PS3 is.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not like this is some sort of surprise going in .
I know you feel you should have access to everything , and you do ( the hacker just proved it ) .
But that does n't mean Sony has to make it easy for you .
In a way , it is just like Vehicle manufactures .
Cars all have proprietary systems , both in hardware and software , that have been increasing tough for independent garages to keep up with .
There is a firewall to isolate you from the working components of the car .
And if you try to 'mod ' your car , you can actually go to jail for operating it on the network ( streets ) .
In a way , cars are far more restrictive that the PS3 is .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not like this is some sort of surprise going in.
I know you feel you should have access to everything, and you do(the hacker just proved it).
But that doesn't mean Sony has to make it easy for you.
In a way, it is just like Vehicle manufactures.
Cars all have proprietary systems, both in hardware and software, that have been increasing tough for independent garages to keep up with.
There is a firewall to isolate you from the working components of the car.
And if you try to 'mod' your car, you can actually go to jail for operating it on the network(streets).
In a way, cars are far more restrictive that the PS3 is.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30888942</id>
	<title>It's like YMCA except with a D</title>
	<author>tepples</author>
	<datestamp>1264430160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I remember when you could purchase products for the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (Super Famicom) and later on, the Nintendo 64, that allowed you to look at and modify memory. It was sold legally at stores and online</p></div><p>It was also manufactured prior to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital\_Millennium\_Copyright\_Act" title="wikipedia.org">October 28, 1998</a> [wikipedia.org].</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I remember when you could purchase products for the Super Nintendo Entertainment System ( Super Famicom ) and later on , the Nintendo 64 , that allowed you to look at and modify memory .
It was sold legally at stores and onlineIt was also manufactured prior to October 28 , 1998 [ wikipedia.org ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I remember when you could purchase products for the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (Super Famicom) and later on, the Nintendo 64, that allowed you to look at and modify memory.
It was sold legally at stores and onlineIt was also manufactured prior to October 28, 1998 [wikipedia.org].
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30888258</id>
	<title>Re:Cheating</title>
	<author>Rogerborg</author>
	<datestamp>1264423500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Here's an adage that I like to bear in mind:

</p><p> <em>If you choose to trust your client, then you are planning for failure, because any <b>successful</b> client application is going to get hacked.</em>

</p><p>I guess it's a simple economic calculation: by the time your client has a large enough userbase that someone takes the time to hack it, you've already made your profit.  Screw anyone who buys it after the client is owned - they should have got in at launch.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Here 's an adage that I like to bear in mind : If you choose to trust your client , then you are planning for failure , because any successful client application is going to get hacked .
I guess it 's a simple economic calculation : by the time your client has a large enough userbase that someone takes the time to hack it , you 've already made your profit .
Screw anyone who buys it after the client is owned - they should have got in at launch .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here's an adage that I like to bear in mind:

 If you choose to trust your client, then you are planning for failure, because any successful client application is going to get hacked.
I guess it's a simple economic calculation: by the time your client has a large enough userbase that someone takes the time to hack it, you've already made your profit.
Screw anyone who buys it after the client is owned - they should have got in at launch.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30890632</id>
	<title>Re:Cheating</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264437240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No way to run linux/homebrew: people go looking for exploits....</p><p>Yes, really straightforward.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No way to run linux/homebrew : people go looking for exploits....Yes , really straightforward .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No way to run linux/homebrew: people go looking for exploits....Yes, really straightforward.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30888730</id>
	<title>Re:Cheating</title>
	<author>Sockatume</author>
	<datestamp>1264428540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Jesus Christ, he's not coming out in support of locked-down hardware, he's just pointing out that in principle (as has happened on previous occasions) breaking a console can lead to a wave of shitheads ruining your gaming experience. That's a trade-off that's worth debating.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Jesus Christ , he 's not coming out in support of locked-down hardware , he 's just pointing out that in principle ( as has happened on previous occasions ) breaking a console can lead to a wave of shitheads ruining your gaming experience .
That 's a trade-off that 's worth debating .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Jesus Christ, he's not coming out in support of locked-down hardware, he's just pointing out that in principle (as has happened on previous occasions) breaking a console can lead to a wave of shitheads ruining your gaming experience.
That's a trade-off that's worth debating.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30894712</id>
	<title>Re:Blame Sony, not the hacker</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264453080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ya but the reality is most users who use xbmc also pirate movies.   Sony knows this, the mpaa knows this,  everyone knows this.   ps3 can play blu ray disc's fine.   They restricted your ability to play any file type ( the xbmc does ) to prevent piracy.  PERIOD.</p><p>Btw,  i love xbmc also.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ya but the reality is most users who use xbmc also pirate movies .
Sony knows this , the mpaa knows this , everyone knows this .
ps3 can play blu ray disc 's fine .
They restricted your ability to play any file type ( the xbmc does ) to prevent piracy .
PERIOD.Btw , i love xbmc also .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ya but the reality is most users who use xbmc also pirate movies.
Sony knows this, the mpaa knows this,  everyone knows this.
ps3 can play blu ray disc's fine.
They restricted your ability to play any file type ( the xbmc does ) to prevent piracy.
PERIOD.Btw,  i love xbmc also.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30891280</id>
	<title>Re:I really want XBMC-HD for PS3</title>
	<author>delinear</author>
	<datestamp>1264439460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've yet to see a media solution that I liked as much as XBMC back on the original XBOX (in the end I got a Popcorn Hour for the living room but I still keep the Mk1 modded XBOX in the bedroom for XBMC and aside from lack of HD it does just as good a job for something I installed back around 2003. The first console manufacturer to do something half as good out of the box will get my undying support - forget trying to win the war for the living room, THIS is it. Do this and you can DRM your games to hell and back, I'll still buy your system.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've yet to see a media solution that I liked as much as XBMC back on the original XBOX ( in the end I got a Popcorn Hour for the living room but I still keep the Mk1 modded XBOX in the bedroom for XBMC and aside from lack of HD it does just as good a job for something I installed back around 2003 .
The first console manufacturer to do something half as good out of the box will get my undying support - forget trying to win the war for the living room , THIS is it .
Do this and you can DRM your games to hell and back , I 'll still buy your system .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've yet to see a media solution that I liked as much as XBMC back on the original XBOX (in the end I got a Popcorn Hour for the living room but I still keep the Mk1 modded XBOX in the bedroom for XBMC and aside from lack of HD it does just as good a job for something I installed back around 2003.
The first console manufacturer to do something half as good out of the box will get my undying support - forget trying to win the war for the living room, THIS is it.
Do this and you can DRM your games to hell and back, I'll still buy your system.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30892002</id>
	<title>Re:Blame Sony, not the hacker</title>
	<author>mr exploiter</author>
	<datestamp>1264441740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This level of spin remind me of fox news. People want their console hacked to play warez games, or they want a console that can't be hacked so there are no online cheaters.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This level of spin remind me of fox news .
People want their console hacked to play warez games , or they want a console that ca n't be hacked so there are no online cheaters .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This level of spin remind me of fox news.
People want their console hacked to play warez games, or they want a console that can't be hacked so there are no online cheaters.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30888884</id>
	<title>Re:RSX in Linux?</title>
	<author>Aladrin</author>
	<datestamp>1264429740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You say 'linux community' like it's a corporation.  The 'linux community' doesn't have an opinion on -anything-.  Individual members of the community have the full range of opinions.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You say 'linux community ' like it 's a corporation .
The 'linux community ' does n't have an opinion on -anything- .
Individual members of the community have the full range of opinions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You say 'linux community' like it's a corporation.
The 'linux community' doesn't have an opinion on -anything-.
Individual members of the community have the full range of opinions.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30890794</id>
	<title>Re:Cheating</title>
	<author>MikeBabcock</author>
	<datestamp>1264437840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Its also worth pointing out that the PS3 will even let me rip a CD down to high quality AAC from its drive and then copy it onto my MP3 player or a USB stick.  They're not exactly being evil here.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Its also worth pointing out that the PS3 will even let me rip a CD down to high quality AAC from its drive and then copy it onto my MP3 player or a USB stick .
They 're not exactly being evil here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Its also worth pointing out that the PS3 will even let me rip a CD down to high quality AAC from its drive and then copy it onto my MP3 player or a USB stick.
They're not exactly being evil here.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30891442</id>
	<title>Re:Cheating</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264439880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Sony is perfectly fine with you running software sold for the PS3; that's how they make their money. Hacking it so that you can give that software away isn't in their best interest, so they build in DRM...  Heck, they even support DivX.</p></div><p>Devil's Advocate: SCEJ (or whoever's actually responsible for the hardware/software) DRMs the media that makes them money, but <b>supports</b> the playback of media that are actively used by pirates... </p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sony is perfectly fine with you running software sold for the PS3 ; that 's how they make their money .
Hacking it so that you can give that software away is n't in their best interest , so they build in DRM... Heck , they even support DivX.Devil 's Advocate : SCEJ ( or whoever 's actually responsible for the hardware/software ) DRMs the media that makes them money , but supports the playback of media that are actively used by pirates.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sony is perfectly fine with you running software sold for the PS3; that's how they make their money.
Hacking it so that you can give that software away isn't in their best interest, so they build in DRM...  Heck, they even support DivX.Devil's Advocate: SCEJ (or whoever's actually responsible for the hardware/software) DRMs the media that makes them money, but supports the playback of media that are actively used by pirates... 
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30888402</id>
	<title>Re:I rarely get to say this...</title>
	<author>sopssa</author>
	<datestamp>1264425000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You can probably still find an old used PS3 with Other OS support, maybe quite cheaply too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You can probably still find an old used PS3 with Other OS support , maybe quite cheaply too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can probably still find an old used PS3 with Other OS support, maybe quite cheaply too.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30888804</id>
	<title>Re:Cheating</title>
	<author>rhpenguin</author>
	<datestamp>1264429140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It would appear that Apple is already working towards that goal.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It would appear that Apple is already working towards that goal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It would appear that Apple is already working towards that goal.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30888374</id>
	<title>Re:Cheating</title>
	<author>dasuser</author>
	<datestamp>1264424760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I guess the main reason for this will be so you can play pirated games. Homebrew is already possible on PS3 and lets not kid ourselves, piracy is always what these things are mostly used for.</p></div></blockquote><p>

You're forgetting one thing - homebrew is possible, but access to the 3d hardware is disabled so that unofficial software can't compete with official games. That, combined with the removal of the ability to even use a 3rd party operating system in the new hardware revisions, is a rather compelling reason to hack the PS3.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I guess the main reason for this will be so you can play pirated games .
Homebrew is already possible on PS3 and lets not kid ourselves , piracy is always what these things are mostly used for .
You 're forgetting one thing - homebrew is possible , but access to the 3d hardware is disabled so that unofficial software ca n't compete with official games .
That , combined with the removal of the ability to even use a 3rd party operating system in the new hardware revisions , is a rather compelling reason to hack the PS3 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I guess the main reason for this will be so you can play pirated games.
Homebrew is already possible on PS3 and lets not kid ourselves, piracy is always what these things are mostly used for.
You're forgetting one thing - homebrew is possible, but access to the 3d hardware is disabled so that unofficial software can't compete with official games.
That, combined with the removal of the ability to even use a 3rd party operating system in the new hardware revisions, is a rather compelling reason to hack the PS3.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30889046</id>
	<title>Re:I really want XBMC-HD for PS3</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264430760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I believe the person that buys a video game system, a specific-purpose computer that has had lock restrictions since day 1, and still claims that since he owns he can do anything with it is ignorant.</p><p>It's not like Sony said in the ad "hey guess what, you can do whatever you want with it! it's yours!". It has always been crystal clear that you abide by some restrictions even if you own the equipment. Seriously, get your head out of your ass Neo Che Guevara.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I believe the person that buys a video game system , a specific-purpose computer that has had lock restrictions since day 1 , and still claims that since he owns he can do anything with it is ignorant.It 's not like Sony said in the ad " hey guess what , you can do whatever you want with it !
it 's yours ! " .
It has always been crystal clear that you abide by some restrictions even if you own the equipment .
Seriously , get your head out of your ass Neo Che Guevara .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I believe the person that buys a video game system, a specific-purpose computer that has had lock restrictions since day 1, and still claims that since he owns he can do anything with it is ignorant.It's not like Sony said in the ad "hey guess what, you can do whatever you want with it!
it's yours!".
It has always been crystal clear that you abide by some restrictions even if you own the equipment.
Seriously, get your head out of your ass Neo Che Guevara.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30888958</id>
	<title>Re:Cheating</title>
	<author>ZeroExistenZ</author>
	<datestamp>1264430220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>They should do this on cars too. Vehicle manufactures should come equipped with GPS based governors, alcohol detection, sex detection, and reckless driving detection straight from factory. This could even be extended to manual shoulder checks , cellphones, smoking, eating, talking, and everything else that could possibly be dangerous.</p></div></blockquote><p>I'm for that. It would bring the cost of my insurance down significantly, if all the "risk"-percentages are taken out. Being young would actually mean your omnimiun is lower as reactivity is still sharp, and being older would bring it up as your reflexes and reactionability starts to wither. OTOH, by the time you reach old age, and have been paying your omnium with no incidents, it could equalize because you've sufficiently contributed to the pool. So basically, your omnium would be affordable as a youngster, and gets less of a burden as you grow older. Money you could use to buy some decent electric car or something cool like that.</p><p>So, lets put these detectors in. I don't have sex while driving anyway, and the sex I've had in my car just smudged the seats. That's a no-no unless she cleans up after herself or I get leather seats.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>They should do this on cars too .
Vehicle manufactures should come equipped with GPS based governors , alcohol detection , sex detection , and reckless driving detection straight from factory .
This could even be extended to manual shoulder checks , cellphones , smoking , eating , talking , and everything else that could possibly be dangerous.I 'm for that .
It would bring the cost of my insurance down significantly , if all the " risk " -percentages are taken out .
Being young would actually mean your omnimiun is lower as reactivity is still sharp , and being older would bring it up as your reflexes and reactionability starts to wither .
OTOH , by the time you reach old age , and have been paying your omnium with no incidents , it could equalize because you 've sufficiently contributed to the pool .
So basically , your omnium would be affordable as a youngster , and gets less of a burden as you grow older .
Money you could use to buy some decent electric car or something cool like that.So , lets put these detectors in .
I do n't have sex while driving anyway , and the sex I 've had in my car just smudged the seats .
That 's a no-no unless she cleans up after herself or I get leather seats .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They should do this on cars too.
Vehicle manufactures should come equipped with GPS based governors, alcohol detection, sex detection, and reckless driving detection straight from factory.
This could even be extended to manual shoulder checks , cellphones, smoking, eating, talking, and everything else that could possibly be dangerous.I'm for that.
It would bring the cost of my insurance down significantly, if all the "risk"-percentages are taken out.
Being young would actually mean your omnimiun is lower as reactivity is still sharp, and being older would bring it up as your reflexes and reactionability starts to wither.
OTOH, by the time you reach old age, and have been paying your omnium with no incidents, it could equalize because you've sufficiently contributed to the pool.
So basically, your omnium would be affordable as a youngster, and gets less of a burden as you grow older.
Money you could use to buy some decent electric car or something cool like that.So, lets put these detectors in.
I don't have sex while driving anyway, and the sex I've had in my car just smudged the seats.
That's a no-no unless she cleans up after herself or I get leather seats.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30888332</id>
	<title>I rarely get to say this...</title>
	<author>starbugs</author>
	<datestamp>1264424400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But will it run Linux?</p><p>No, seriously,<br>I rarely play games, and if I do  - they're on a Mac.</p><p>The only appeal of the PS3 to me is programming the Cell processor, I was hoping to get into that later this year.<br>WTF did Sony discontinue support for Linux in the new PS3?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But will it run Linux ? No , seriously,I rarely play games , and if I do - they 're on a Mac.The only appeal of the PS3 to me is programming the Cell processor , I was hoping to get into that later this year.WTF did Sony discontinue support for Linux in the new PS3 ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But will it run Linux?No, seriously,I rarely play games, and if I do  - they're on a Mac.The only appeal of the PS3 to me is programming the Cell processor, I was hoping to get into that later this year.WTF did Sony discontinue support for Linux in the new PS3?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30888766</id>
	<title>Re:Blame Sony, not the hacker</title>
	<author>CubicleView</author>
	<datestamp>1264428780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>"give the box any ability your users might want to get out of it"</p></div><p>that sounds great in theory, but only if you ignore the users that would want some sort of ps3/ fleshlight hybrid, ick.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" give the box any ability your users might want to get out of it " that sounds great in theory , but only if you ignore the users that would want some sort of ps3/ fleshlight hybrid , ick .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"give the box any ability your users might want to get out of it"that sounds great in theory, but only if you ignore the users that would want some sort of ps3/ fleshlight hybrid, ick.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30890766</id>
	<title>Re:Blame Sony, not the hacker</title>
	<author>terjeber</author>
	<datestamp>1264437720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>They want to use their PS3 as a Media Center, something that's simply impossible with the current setup</p></div><p>Could you elaborate please? Do we have different takes on what a Media Center is? I do believe my PS3 is currently functioning as a Media Center, doing video, images and music etc. Did I miss something?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>They want to use their PS3 as a Media Center , something that 's simply impossible with the current setupCould you elaborate please ?
Do we have different takes on what a Media Center is ?
I do believe my PS3 is currently functioning as a Media Center , doing video , images and music etc .
Did I miss something ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They want to use their PS3 as a Media Center, something that's simply impossible with the current setupCould you elaborate please?
Do we have different takes on what a Media Center is?
I do believe my PS3 is currently functioning as a Media Center, doing video, images and music etc.
Did I miss something?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30889288</id>
	<title>Re:Blame Sony, not the hacker</title>
	<author>shedtv</author>
	<datestamp>1264432200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Bottom line, most people use XBMC for playing or streaming downloaded, pirated movies.

"BUBUBU I don't want to mod it to play pirated games, just pirated, err I mean, stream my movie collection..."</htmltext>
<tokenext>Bottom line , most people use XBMC for playing or streaming downloaded , pirated movies .
" BUBUBU I do n't want to mod it to play pirated games , just pirated , err I mean , stream my movie collection... "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bottom line, most people use XBMC for playing or streaming downloaded, pirated movies.
"BUBUBU I don't want to mod it to play pirated games, just pirated, err I mean, stream my movie collection..."</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30888972</id>
	<title>Re:Blame Sony, not the hacker</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264430340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So you're saying you hacked your xbox for a legitimate reason and then promptly started using it for an illegitimate reason?</p><p>Seriously?  fuck you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So you 're saying you hacked your xbox for a legitimate reason and then promptly started using it for an illegitimate reason ? Seriously ?
fuck you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So you're saying you hacked your xbox for a legitimate reason and then promptly started using it for an illegitimate reason?Seriously?
fuck you.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30891606</id>
	<title>Re:I really want XBMC-HD for PS3</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264440360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just buy a freakin media player an stfu</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just buy a freakin media player an stfu</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just buy a freakin media player an stfu</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30888416</id>
	<title>Re:I really want XBMC-HD for PS3</title>
	<author>AbRASiON</author>
	<datestamp>1264425180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I bet the Asrock is AWESOME! However I don't see an Asrock in my loungeroom.<br>I see a PS2, PS3, XB1 and XB360 - the XB1 was one of the best electronics purchases I've made in my lifetime, incredible little machine.<br>I'd love to see the PS3 get the same kind of longetivity.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I bet the Asrock is AWESOME !
However I do n't see an Asrock in my loungeroom.I see a PS2 , PS3 , XB1 and XB360 - the XB1 was one of the best electronics purchases I 've made in my lifetime , incredible little machine.I 'd love to see the PS3 get the same kind of longetivity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bet the Asrock is AWESOME!
However I don't see an Asrock in my loungeroom.I see a PS2, PS3, XB1 and XB360 - the XB1 was one of the best electronics purchases I've made in my lifetime, incredible little machine.I'd love to see the PS3 get the same kind of longetivity.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30888260</id>
	<title>Re:Cheating</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264423560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No access to the GPU before this!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No access to the GPU before this !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No access to the GPU before this!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30888826</id>
	<title>Re:Cheating</title>
	<author>darkmeridian</author>
	<datestamp>1264429320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There is a point to limiting certain products so they function as a level playing field. PC gaming is frustrating because of wallhackers and morons with aimbots. Console gaming is preferable because it's generally difficult to hack the system. Limiting products increases the value it has.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There is a point to limiting certain products so they function as a level playing field .
PC gaming is frustrating because of wallhackers and morons with aimbots .
Console gaming is preferable because it 's generally difficult to hack the system .
Limiting products increases the value it has .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is a point to limiting certain products so they function as a level playing field.
PC gaming is frustrating because of wallhackers and morons with aimbots.
Console gaming is preferable because it's generally difficult to hack the system.
Limiting products increases the value it has.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30888428</id>
	<title>Re:I rarely get to say this...</title>
	<author>Etylowy</author>
	<datestamp>1264425240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes it will and you will be no longer limited in terms what hardware you access (other os option limited you to less than 15\% of raw hw power).</p><p><div class="quote"><p>WTF did Sony discontinue support for Linux in the new PS3?</p></div><p>Being able to run linux wasn't a strong enough selling point to justify the cost - thus ps3 slim no longer has this option.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes it will and you will be no longer limited in terms what hardware you access ( other os option limited you to less than 15 \ % of raw hw power ) .WTF did Sony discontinue support for Linux in the new PS3 ? Being able to run linux was n't a strong enough selling point to justify the cost - thus ps3 slim no longer has this option .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes it will and you will be no longer limited in terms what hardware you access (other os option limited you to less than 15\% of raw hw power).WTF did Sony discontinue support for Linux in the new PS3?Being able to run linux wasn't a strong enough selling point to justify the cost - thus ps3 slim no longer has this option.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30888396</id>
	<title>RSX in Linux?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264425000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Linux on PS3 for non-scientific work has been a disappointing experience.  There is very little code out there that uses the SPUs (and the PPU stinks for general purpose computing) and the hypervisor prevents hardware accelerated graphics.</p><p>While the first issue has to do with the community, the second is a restriction imposed by Sony.  Perhaps this hack will make it possible to use the RSX (PS3's hardware graphics) in Linux?  Maybe then an SNES emulator will run better on a PS3 than a second-gen iMac.</p><p>What is the Linux community's willingness to embrace a hack such as this?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Linux on PS3 for non-scientific work has been a disappointing experience .
There is very little code out there that uses the SPUs ( and the PPU stinks for general purpose computing ) and the hypervisor prevents hardware accelerated graphics.While the first issue has to do with the community , the second is a restriction imposed by Sony .
Perhaps this hack will make it possible to use the RSX ( PS3 's hardware graphics ) in Linux ?
Maybe then an SNES emulator will run better on a PS3 than a second-gen iMac.What is the Linux community 's willingness to embrace a hack such as this ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Linux on PS3 for non-scientific work has been a disappointing experience.
There is very little code out there that uses the SPUs (and the PPU stinks for general purpose computing) and the hypervisor prevents hardware accelerated graphics.While the first issue has to do with the community, the second is a restriction imposed by Sony.
Perhaps this hack will make it possible to use the RSX (PS3's hardware graphics) in Linux?
Maybe then an SNES emulator will run better on a PS3 than a second-gen iMac.What is the Linux community's willingness to embrace a hack such as this?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30888250</id>
	<title>Re:Cheating</title>
	<author>Sockatume</author>
	<datestamp>1264423440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A lot of lessons have been learned from the original Xbox days. By the end, essentially you couldn't get online without the original dash and a retail game, which limited hacks to whatever you could do with game saves or screwing with the downloaded content. Those are relatively easy to police. I imagine Sony will be keen to do something similar, and set up their servers to dropkick anyone who logs in with an unapproved configuration.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A lot of lessons have been learned from the original Xbox days .
By the end , essentially you could n't get online without the original dash and a retail game , which limited hacks to whatever you could do with game saves or screwing with the downloaded content .
Those are relatively easy to police .
I imagine Sony will be keen to do something similar , and set up their servers to dropkick anyone who logs in with an unapproved configuration .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A lot of lessons have been learned from the original Xbox days.
By the end, essentially you couldn't get online without the original dash and a retail game, which limited hacks to whatever you could do with game saves or screwing with the downloaded content.
Those are relatively easy to police.
I imagine Sony will be keen to do something similar, and set up their servers to dropkick anyone who logs in with an unapproved configuration.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30888386</id>
	<title>Re:I really want XBMC-HD for PS3</title>
	<author>MrNemesis</author>
	<datestamp>1264424880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Mods on crack, parent is not offtopic.</p><p>I too was saddened when I found out that the supposedly Linux-friendly PS3 was going to be hypervisored up to the wazoo - I've been a Sony boycotter for years but I was seriously considering forgiving them if I got a reasonably flexible machine that would run my beloved Myth.</p><p>Alas, it didn't and when XBMC ported itself to everything and became seven kinds of awesome the disparity between the various "multimedia frontend" attempts on current-gen consoles and your plain jane x86 box running XBMC, XBMC wins on every front. Including, IMHO, setting the thing up in the first place.</p><p>Hopefully some enterprising hardware hackers will endeavour to get XBMC and friends running on PS3 (although how well it'll run on PPC remains to be seen), but probably not before all those Boxee units start appearing. Way to miss the bandwagon again Sony!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Mods on crack , parent is not offtopic.I too was saddened when I found out that the supposedly Linux-friendly PS3 was going to be hypervisored up to the wazoo - I 've been a Sony boycotter for years but I was seriously considering forgiving them if I got a reasonably flexible machine that would run my beloved Myth.Alas , it did n't and when XBMC ported itself to everything and became seven kinds of awesome the disparity between the various " multimedia frontend " attempts on current-gen consoles and your plain jane x86 box running XBMC , XBMC wins on every front .
Including , IMHO , setting the thing up in the first place.Hopefully some enterprising hardware hackers will endeavour to get XBMC and friends running on PS3 ( although how well it 'll run on PPC remains to be seen ) , but probably not before all those Boxee units start appearing .
Way to miss the bandwagon again Sony !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mods on crack, parent is not offtopic.I too was saddened when I found out that the supposedly Linux-friendly PS3 was going to be hypervisored up to the wazoo - I've been a Sony boycotter for years but I was seriously considering forgiving them if I got a reasonably flexible machine that would run my beloved Myth.Alas, it didn't and when XBMC ported itself to everything and became seven kinds of awesome the disparity between the various "multimedia frontend" attempts on current-gen consoles and your plain jane x86 box running XBMC, XBMC wins on every front.
Including, IMHO, setting the thing up in the first place.Hopefully some enterprising hardware hackers will endeavour to get XBMC and friends running on PS3 (although how well it'll run on PPC remains to be seen), but probably not before all those Boxee units start appearing.
Way to miss the bandwagon again Sony!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30891730</id>
	<title>Re:I really want XBMC-HD for PS3</title>
	<author>acohen1</author>
	<datestamp>1264440780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Theres already a discussion of PS3 media server. I share my dvd-rom on my pc and pop PAL dvds in there and let it transcode them. I agree its totally lame that the function is not built in though, especially when its outputting HDMI I don't see why a TV that can handle true 24fps shouldnt be able to do PAL at 25.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Theres already a discussion of PS3 media server .
I share my dvd-rom on my pc and pop PAL dvds in there and let it transcode them .
I agree its totally lame that the function is not built in though , especially when its outputting HDMI I do n't see why a TV that can handle true 24fps shouldnt be able to do PAL at 25 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Theres already a discussion of PS3 media server.
I share my dvd-rom on my pc and pop PAL dvds in there and let it transcode them.
I agree its totally lame that the function is not built in though, especially when its outputting HDMI I don't see why a TV that can handle true 24fps shouldnt be able to do PAL at 25.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30888330</id>
	<title>Re:Cheating</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264424400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Of course! Why didn't the they think of this before?</p><p>I mean -- it's brilliant -- vendors restricting our use of our property for our own good, the good of the collective users, or maybe just the good of their bank accounts.</p><p>They should do this on cars too. Vehicle manufactures should come equipped with GPS based governors, alcohol detection, sex detection, and reckless driving detection straight from factory.  This could even be extended to manual shoulder checks , cellphones, smoking, eating, talking, and everything else that could possibly be dangerous.</p><p>I can't wait until PC manufactures starts releasing Windows(tm) computers that are based on the the same principal. Just think. No more spam, malware, viruses, or even legitimate software that Microsoft deems is not "good' for their user base.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Of course !
Why did n't the they think of this before ? I mean -- it 's brilliant -- vendors restricting our use of our property for our own good , the good of the collective users , or maybe just the good of their bank accounts.They should do this on cars too .
Vehicle manufactures should come equipped with GPS based governors , alcohol detection , sex detection , and reckless driving detection straight from factory .
This could even be extended to manual shoulder checks , cellphones , smoking , eating , talking , and everything else that could possibly be dangerous.I ca n't wait until PC manufactures starts releasing Windows ( tm ) computers that are based on the the same principal .
Just think .
No more spam , malware , viruses , or even legitimate software that Microsoft deems is not " good ' for their user base .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of course!
Why didn't the they think of this before?I mean -- it's brilliant -- vendors restricting our use of our property for our own good, the good of the collective users, or maybe just the good of their bank accounts.They should do this on cars too.
Vehicle manufactures should come equipped with GPS based governors, alcohol detection, sex detection, and reckless driving detection straight from factory.
This could even be extended to manual shoulder checks , cellphones, smoking, eating, talking, and everything else that could possibly be dangerous.I can't wait until PC manufactures starts releasing Windows(tm) computers that are based on the the same principal.
Just think.
No more spam, malware, viruses, or even legitimate software that Microsoft deems is not "good' for their user base.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30888750</id>
	<title>Re:Blame Sony, not the hacker</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264428660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>They want to use their PS3 as a Media Center, something that's simply impossible with the current setup.</i></p><p>I'd argue that the PS3's broad format support and network share support makes it into a pretty good media box, probably intentionally to remove the incentive you describe for people to hack their machines.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They want to use their PS3 as a Media Center , something that 's simply impossible with the current setup.I 'd argue that the PS3 's broad format support and network share support makes it into a pretty good media box , probably intentionally to remove the incentive you describe for people to hack their machines .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They want to use their PS3 as a Media Center, something that's simply impossible with the current setup.I'd argue that the PS3's broad format support and network share support makes it into a pretty good media box, probably intentionally to remove the incentive you describe for people to hack their machines.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30888438</id>
	<title>Hack leaked, reprinted here</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264425360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>The hack apparently involves pressing up, down, left, right, X, and O in pairs.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The hack apparently involves pressing up , down , left , right , X , and O in pairs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The hack apparently involves pressing up, down, left, right, X, and O in pairs.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30888796</id>
	<title>Re:Cheating</title>
	<author>MidnightBrewer</author>
	<datestamp>1264429080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sony is perfectly fine with you running software sold for the PS3; that's how they make their money. Hacking it so that you can give that software away isn't in their best interest, so they build in DRM. The Windows comparison doesn't hold water in this case.</p><p>It keeps their developers happy and maintains a semblance of sanity on their system.  It's ugly, but seeing that its main purpose is to be a gaming system, it does the job. They don't stop you from remotely streaming or locally playing any kind of media; you're free to knock yourself out. Heck, they even support DivX.</p><p>Given a choice, Sony would rather restrict their infinitesimally small Linux base because, quite frankly, nobody really cares.  People who are bloody-minded enough to use them as a processing farm are more curiosities than mainstream, and I'm sure that serious efforts, such as by universities and the like, get one-on-one support from Sony if they want it.</p><p>Linux users on the PS3: zero profit. PS3 gamers on the PS3: the whole reason the system was made. I think that the line of reasoning is pretty straightforward here.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sony is perfectly fine with you running software sold for the PS3 ; that 's how they make their money .
Hacking it so that you can give that software away is n't in their best interest , so they build in DRM .
The Windows comparison does n't hold water in this case.It keeps their developers happy and maintains a semblance of sanity on their system .
It 's ugly , but seeing that its main purpose is to be a gaming system , it does the job .
They do n't stop you from remotely streaming or locally playing any kind of media ; you 're free to knock yourself out .
Heck , they even support DivX.Given a choice , Sony would rather restrict their infinitesimally small Linux base because , quite frankly , nobody really cares .
People who are bloody-minded enough to use them as a processing farm are more curiosities than mainstream , and I 'm sure that serious efforts , such as by universities and the like , get one-on-one support from Sony if they want it.Linux users on the PS3 : zero profit .
PS3 gamers on the PS3 : the whole reason the system was made .
I think that the line of reasoning is pretty straightforward here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sony is perfectly fine with you running software sold for the PS3; that's how they make their money.
Hacking it so that you can give that software away isn't in their best interest, so they build in DRM.
The Windows comparison doesn't hold water in this case.It keeps their developers happy and maintains a semblance of sanity on their system.
It's ugly, but seeing that its main purpose is to be a gaming system, it does the job.
They don't stop you from remotely streaming or locally playing any kind of media; you're free to knock yourself out.
Heck, they even support DivX.Given a choice, Sony would rather restrict their infinitesimally small Linux base because, quite frankly, nobody really cares.
People who are bloody-minded enough to use them as a processing farm are more curiosities than mainstream, and I'm sure that serious efforts, such as by universities and the like, get one-on-one support from Sony if they want it.Linux users on the PS3: zero profit.
PS3 gamers on the PS3: the whole reason the system was made.
I think that the line of reasoning is pretty straightforward here.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30888650</id>
	<title>It's very possible!</title>
	<author>Nursie</author>
	<datestamp>1264427700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm all for this hack and opening the platform up, but it's already a great media center IMHO.</p><p>Just load up some UPnP/DLNA software (some are mentioned up-page, I use MediaTomb) and browse your media straight from the PS3 XMB interface. We use it all the time.</p><p>yes, it could do with some more formats supported, but it's pretty good on most stuff.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm all for this hack and opening the platform up , but it 's already a great media center IMHO.Just load up some UPnP/DLNA software ( some are mentioned up-page , I use MediaTomb ) and browse your media straight from the PS3 XMB interface .
We use it all the time.yes , it could do with some more formats supported , but it 's pretty good on most stuff .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm all for this hack and opening the platform up, but it's already a great media center IMHO.Just load up some UPnP/DLNA software (some are mentioned up-page, I use MediaTomb) and browse your media straight from the PS3 XMB interface.
We use it all the time.yes, it could do with some more formats supported, but it's pretty good on most stuff.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30888446</id>
	<title>Re:Cheating</title>
	<author>AuMatar</author>
	<datestamp>1264425480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You can easily cheat anyway.  Just use a gateway between your PS3 and the internet.  Then you can alter the packet data to your heart's content.  See an enemy?  Have the program on the gateway auto-aim for you by changing your target coordinates.  If you're counting on the platform to stop cheaters you'll be very disappointed.  I'd be quite shocked if such programs don't already get used, I know they existed for past platforms.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You can easily cheat anyway .
Just use a gateway between your PS3 and the internet .
Then you can alter the packet data to your heart 's content .
See an enemy ?
Have the program on the gateway auto-aim for you by changing your target coordinates .
If you 're counting on the platform to stop cheaters you 'll be very disappointed .
I 'd be quite shocked if such programs do n't already get used , I know they existed for past platforms .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can easily cheat anyway.
Just use a gateway between your PS3 and the internet.
Then you can alter the packet data to your heart's content.
See an enemy?
Have the program on the gateway auto-aim for you by changing your target coordinates.
If you're counting on the platform to stop cheaters you'll be very disappointed.
I'd be quite shocked if such programs don't already get used, I know they existed for past platforms.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30889334</id>
	<title>Copyright</title>
	<author>Dr. Manhattan</author>
	<datestamp>1264432500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Then you would copy some data / ideas (in this case, games), which are NOT physical goods, from someone. Which is a normal thing that is a basis of human civilization.</p></div></blockquote><p>
Oh, yeah, one more thing. Let's quote someone who made this point far more articulately, Thomas Jefferson:
<i>If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of every one, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it. Its peculiar character, too, is that no one possesses the less, because every other possesses the whole of it. He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.</i>
</p><p>
Of course, he went <i>on</i> to say: <i>Society may give an exclusive right to the profits arising from them, as an encouragement to men to pursue ideas which may produce utility...</i>
</p><p>
No copyright/patents/trademarks at all is a pretty bad state. Draconian DRM and unending copyright isn't productive, either. Fortunately, we can try to find a balance between them. Pretending the choice is <i>only</i> one or the other is ridiculous.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Then you would copy some data / ideas ( in this case , games ) , which are NOT physical goods , from someone .
Which is a normal thing that is a basis of human civilization .
Oh , yeah , one more thing .
Let 's quote someone who made this point far more articulately , Thomas Jefferson : If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property , it is the action of the thinking power called an idea , which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself ; but the moment it is divulged , it forces itself into the possession of every one , and the receiver can not dispossess himself of it .
Its peculiar character , too , is that no one possesses the less , because every other possesses the whole of it .
He who receives an idea from me , receives instruction himself without lessening mine ; as he who lights his taper at mine , receives light without darkening me .
Of course , he went on to say : Society may give an exclusive right to the profits arising from them , as an encouragement to men to pursue ideas which may produce utility.. . No copyright/patents/trademarks at all is a pretty bad state .
Draconian DRM and unending copyright is n't productive , either .
Fortunately , we can try to find a balance between them .
Pretending the choice is only one or the other is ridiculous .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Then you would copy some data / ideas (in this case, games), which are NOT physical goods, from someone.
Which is a normal thing that is a basis of human civilization.
Oh, yeah, one more thing.
Let's quote someone who made this point far more articulately, Thomas Jefferson:
If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of every one, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it.
Its peculiar character, too, is that no one possesses the less, because every other possesses the whole of it.
He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.
Of course, he went on to say: Society may give an exclusive right to the profits arising from them, as an encouragement to men to pursue ideas which may produce utility...

No copyright/patents/trademarks at all is a pretty bad state.
Draconian DRM and unending copyright isn't productive, either.
Fortunately, we can try to find a balance between them.
Pretending the choice is only one or the other is ridiculous.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30888202</id>
	<title>Cheating</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264422900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I guess the main reason for this will be so you can play pirated games. Homebrew is already possible on PS3 and lets not kid ourselves, piracy is always what these things are mostly used for.</p><p>But even more worrysome is if this enables complete access to system and memory, cheating will become a problem. For example 360 hack isn't the same, you can't run your own code or modify memory on it - it merely allows you to play pirat^H^H^H^H^H backups. This will be a lot more serious hack.</p><p>I usually play on PC, but when I'm playing on PS3/360 I like that I know there aren't cheaters. While packet-modifying is theorically possible if there isn't any encryption or checksums in the network data, cheating on consoles is <i>a lot</i> smaller problem than on PC and some types of cheats (wallhacks etc) are impossible to create without direct access to memory and code.</p><p>And I'd like to keep it that way.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I guess the main reason for this will be so you can play pirated games .
Homebrew is already possible on PS3 and lets not kid ourselves , piracy is always what these things are mostly used for.But even more worrysome is if this enables complete access to system and memory , cheating will become a problem .
For example 360 hack is n't the same , you ca n't run your own code or modify memory on it - it merely allows you to play pirat ^ H ^ H ^ H ^ H ^ H backups .
This will be a lot more serious hack.I usually play on PC , but when I 'm playing on PS3/360 I like that I know there are n't cheaters .
While packet-modifying is theorically possible if there is n't any encryption or checksums in the network data , cheating on consoles is a lot smaller problem than on PC and some types of cheats ( wallhacks etc ) are impossible to create without direct access to memory and code.And I 'd like to keep it that way .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I guess the main reason for this will be so you can play pirated games.
Homebrew is already possible on PS3 and lets not kid ourselves, piracy is always what these things are mostly used for.But even more worrysome is if this enables complete access to system and memory, cheating will become a problem.
For example 360 hack isn't the same, you can't run your own code or modify memory on it - it merely allows you to play pirat^H^H^H^H^H backups.
This will be a lot more serious hack.I usually play on PC, but when I'm playing on PS3/360 I like that I know there aren't cheaters.
While packet-modifying is theorically possible if there isn't any encryption or checksums in the network data, cheating on consoles is a lot smaller problem than on PC and some types of cheats (wallhacks etc) are impossible to create without direct access to memory and code.And I'd like to keep it that way.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30888392</id>
	<title>Re:I rarely get to say this...</title>
	<author>Amanieu</author>
	<datestamp>1264424940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Probably because they lose money on each PS3 sold, hoping to catch up with game sales. So people who use their console for something other than games cause them to lose money.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Probably because they lose money on each PS3 sold , hoping to catch up with game sales .
So people who use their console for something other than games cause them to lose money .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Probably because they lose money on each PS3 sold, hoping to catch up with game sales.
So people who use their console for something other than games cause them to lose money.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30888338</id>
	<title>Re:I really want XBMC-HD for PS3</title>
	<author>TheBiGW</author>
	<datestamp>1264424460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>This already exists. XBMC has been ported to Windows, MacOS and Linux. A small nettop like the Asrock ION 330 is smaller and quieter than either the XBox 360 or the PS3 and is more than capable of playing back high def content.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This already exists .
XBMC has been ported to Windows , MacOS and Linux .
A small nettop like the Asrock ION 330 is smaller and quieter than either the XBox 360 or the PS3 and is more than capable of playing back high def content .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This already exists.
XBMC has been ported to Windows, MacOS and Linux.
A small nettop like the Asrock ION 330 is smaller and quieter than either the XBox 360 or the PS3 and is more than capable of playing back high def content.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30914958</id>
	<title>Re:I really want XBMC-HD for PS3</title>
	<author>BenBenBen</author>
	<datestamp>1264590480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Use an old AppleTV with the Mini-PCI hardware HD video decoder one of the XBMX devs and Broadcom developed.</p><p>1080P HTPC for around $200 in a very, very nice form factor.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Use an old AppleTV with the Mini-PCI hardware HD video decoder one of the XBMX devs and Broadcom developed.1080P HTPC for around $ 200 in a very , very nice form factor .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Use an old AppleTV with the Mini-PCI hardware HD video decoder one of the XBMX devs and Broadcom developed.1080P HTPC for around $200 in a very, very nice form factor.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30888360</id>
	<title>Errr - NO! Hom,ebrew not already possible.</title>
	<author>Nursie</author>
	<datestamp>1264424580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You can't access some of the hardware, particularly the GFX from an "Other OS" and the new slim models don't even support the Other OS option, so no, this is not just for cheating and piracy and there is no current way to run homebrew well.</p><p>We can even run linux better in a hacked system as currently the graphics performance is pretty dreadful. There is far more to life than piracy and cheating. I welcome this development.</p><p>Helll, I'd welcome it even if there were few to no forseeable applications, just the opening up of a new computer platform...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You ca n't access some of the hardware , particularly the GFX from an " Other OS " and the new slim models do n't even support the Other OS option , so no , this is not just for cheating and piracy and there is no current way to run homebrew well.We can even run linux better in a hacked system as currently the graphics performance is pretty dreadful .
There is far more to life than piracy and cheating .
I welcome this development.Helll , I 'd welcome it even if there were few to no forseeable applications , just the opening up of a new computer platform.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can't access some of the hardware, particularly the GFX from an "Other OS" and the new slim models don't even support the Other OS option, so no, this is not just for cheating and piracy and there is no current way to run homebrew well.We can even run linux better in a hacked system as currently the graphics performance is pretty dreadful.
There is far more to life than piracy and cheating.
I welcome this development.Helll, I'd welcome it even if there were few to no forseeable applications, just the opening up of a new computer platform...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30908642</id>
	<title>Re:Why announce now? Lawsuits coming...</title>
	<author>BatGnat</author>
	<datestamp>1264538100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>depends on what country you live in, I am in Australia, courts say I bought it, I can do what I want with it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>depends on what country you live in , I am in Australia , courts say I bought it , I can do what I want with it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>depends on what country you live in, I am in Australia, courts say I bought it, I can do what I want with it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30901576</id>
	<title>Re:Blame Sony, not the hacker</title>
	<author>Xest</author>
	<datestamp>1264499640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I both agree and disagree with you.</p><p>I disagree, because there are a lot of people- the vast majority of owners I would wager, who don't want their consoles to be open platforms due to the inevitable influx of cheating online. It's also the case that even now Sony is supposedly making a loss on the console with the hope of making it up on games, but of course if people buy a console and just pirate the games then the price of the console has to go up to compensate meaning people aren't getting high end hardware subsidised by games anymore.</p><p>But, I also agree, because as you say, you can do some really cool shit with console hardware when you have open access. So I wonder then, perhaps the solution would be for console manufacturers to release open versions of their system, kind of like the old Net Yaroze? It would have to come at a slightly higher price due to not being game subsidised, but of course, it'd still be good for manufacturers as it would bring per-unit price down for the processor and so forth.</p><p>I suspect it wont happen though as, let's be realistic, people would still hack the closed version of the console because piracy really is the main driving force at the end of the day 90\% of the time, and having an open version of the hardware out there may provide too many clues to break the closed version.</p><p>I can see why manufacturers don't open up their systems more and I'm inclined to agree with them- I much prefer online console gaming nowadays because I know I'm playing on an even footing, but similarly I think you're right, homebrew is very cool, often providing things that aren't officially available that make the system better. Being able to have an MSN client on my DS for example was pretty awesome.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I both agree and disagree with you.I disagree , because there are a lot of people- the vast majority of owners I would wager , who do n't want their consoles to be open platforms due to the inevitable influx of cheating online .
It 's also the case that even now Sony is supposedly making a loss on the console with the hope of making it up on games , but of course if people buy a console and just pirate the games then the price of the console has to go up to compensate meaning people are n't getting high end hardware subsidised by games anymore.But , I also agree , because as you say , you can do some really cool shit with console hardware when you have open access .
So I wonder then , perhaps the solution would be for console manufacturers to release open versions of their system , kind of like the old Net Yaroze ?
It would have to come at a slightly higher price due to not being game subsidised , but of course , it 'd still be good for manufacturers as it would bring per-unit price down for the processor and so forth.I suspect it wont happen though as , let 's be realistic , people would still hack the closed version of the console because piracy really is the main driving force at the end of the day 90 \ % of the time , and having an open version of the hardware out there may provide too many clues to break the closed version.I can see why manufacturers do n't open up their systems more and I 'm inclined to agree with them- I much prefer online console gaming nowadays because I know I 'm playing on an even footing , but similarly I think you 're right , homebrew is very cool , often providing things that are n't officially available that make the system better .
Being able to have an MSN client on my DS for example was pretty awesome .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I both agree and disagree with you.I disagree, because there are a lot of people- the vast majority of owners I would wager, who don't want their consoles to be open platforms due to the inevitable influx of cheating online.
It's also the case that even now Sony is supposedly making a loss on the console with the hope of making it up on games, but of course if people buy a console and just pirate the games then the price of the console has to go up to compensate meaning people aren't getting high end hardware subsidised by games anymore.But, I also agree, because as you say, you can do some really cool shit with console hardware when you have open access.
So I wonder then, perhaps the solution would be for console manufacturers to release open versions of their system, kind of like the old Net Yaroze?
It would have to come at a slightly higher price due to not being game subsidised, but of course, it'd still be good for manufacturers as it would bring per-unit price down for the processor and so forth.I suspect it wont happen though as, let's be realistic, people would still hack the closed version of the console because piracy really is the main driving force at the end of the day 90\% of the time, and having an open version of the hardware out there may provide too many clues to break the closed version.I can see why manufacturers don't open up their systems more and I'm inclined to agree with them- I much prefer online console gaming nowadays because I know I'm playing on an even footing, but similarly I think you're right, homebrew is very cool, often providing things that aren't officially available that make the system better.
Being able to have an MSN client on my DS for example was pretty awesome.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30900754</id>
	<title>Re:Blame Sony, not the hacker</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264445640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wait, give the people what they want?<br>You got what you wanted.<br>According to the paperwork that you didn't read, by purchasing and USING the PS3, you are agreeing with their TOS. In the end its all about piracy.<br>Wanna make PS3 games, leave the basement and get a job with a software developer.<br>Want a media center? your PC already does that.<br>And there's absolutely nothing they can shove inside that "box" that will keep you from opening it because, like you said, "its there and we can"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wait , give the people what they want ? You got what you wanted.According to the paperwork that you did n't read , by purchasing and USING the PS3 , you are agreeing with their TOS .
In the end its all about piracy.Wan na make PS3 games , leave the basement and get a job with a software developer.Want a media center ?
your PC already does that.And there 's absolutely nothing they can shove inside that " box " that will keep you from opening it because , like you said , " its there and we can "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wait, give the people what they want?You got what you wanted.According to the paperwork that you didn't read, by purchasing and USING the PS3, you are agreeing with their TOS.
In the end its all about piracy.Wanna make PS3 games, leave the basement and get a job with a software developer.Want a media center?
your PC already does that.And there's absolutely nothing they can shove inside that "box" that will keep you from opening it because, like you said, "its there and we can"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30888522</id>
	<title>Why announce now? Lawsuits coming...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264426440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why announce before you have something to release? It's like he wants to be sued by Sony. Actually, maybe that's it - he could be looking for a settlement.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why announce before you have something to release ?
It 's like he wants to be sued by Sony .
Actually , maybe that 's it - he could be looking for a settlement .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why announce before you have something to release?
It's like he wants to be sued by Sony.
Actually, maybe that's it - he could be looking for a settlement.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30888784</id>
	<title>Re:I really want XBMC-HD for PS3</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1264428960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Do you even realize how fucked up that mindset is, that you bought into?<br><em>Their</em> system? You fuckin&rsquo; <em>bought</em> it! You own it!<br><em>Pirating</em>? Do I have to explain this again? <a href="http://7.media.tumblr.com/4nZBASoSAd79pgh9yEG2ZCPi\_500.png" title="tumblr.com" rel="nofollow">http://7.media.tumblr.com/4nZBASoSAd79pgh9yEG2ZCPi\_500.png</a> [tumblr.com]</p><p>What you describe, is is physical reality, described like this:<br>You bought a computer in form of a game console, but then noticed that the designer employed some tricks to keep you from doing certain things whit it, despite you having payed and owning the device. Which of course did only hold for so long, until you were able to break it open. Because physical access &gt; root access.<br>Then you would copy some data / ideas (in this case, games), which are NOT physical goods, from someone. Which is a normal thing that is a basis of human civilization.<br>But some fucked up retard asshole douchebag would argue that you did hurt him with it. Which of course is physically impossible. His reasoning would stem from the deliberate misunderstanding of physics of treating data / ideas as physical goods, and the resulting the staight out lie, that this means that you would have taken it away from someone and not even giving something back.<br>On top of that he built his whole fucked up business model, where he tried to sell not the service of creating that data, but the data itself. Which only worked at all, because he noticed that there were a lot of idiots who would actually pay for that, and cave in to his sick delusions.<br>And because he happens to have tricked artists into adhesion contracts to offer this &ldquo;service&rdquo; to them, he now thinks <em>he</em> &ldquo;owns&rdquo; this &ldquo;goods&rdquo; (the games).</p><p>The worst thing of that all, is not the delusional idiot with the fucked up business model. It&rsquo;s that he gets trough with it, because people like you not only let him, but even use his wording and mindset, and therewith actively support him.</p><p>I know you are more intelligent that that.<br>I know that after all the daily brainwashing in the media, one gets so used to it, that one starts to think that way oneself.<br>I know that you don&rsquo;t really believe in that shit, and rather agree with me.<br>I know that one can forget that one is in that mindset, because of being so used to it.<br>So I thought I&rsquo;d wake you up, so you could become yourself again.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do you even realize how fucked up that mindset is , that you bought into ? Their system ?
You fuckin    bought it !
You own it ! Pirating ?
Do I have to explain this again ?
http : //7.media.tumblr.com/4nZBASoSAd79pgh9yEG2ZCPi \ _500.png [ tumblr.com ] What you describe , is is physical reality , described like this : You bought a computer in form of a game console , but then noticed that the designer employed some tricks to keep you from doing certain things whit it , despite you having payed and owning the device .
Which of course did only hold for so long , until you were able to break it open .
Because physical access &gt; root access.Then you would copy some data / ideas ( in this case , games ) , which are NOT physical goods , from someone .
Which is a normal thing that is a basis of human civilization.But some fucked up retard asshole douchebag would argue that you did hurt him with it .
Which of course is physically impossible .
His reasoning would stem from the deliberate misunderstanding of physics of treating data / ideas as physical goods , and the resulting the staight out lie , that this means that you would have taken it away from someone and not even giving something back.On top of that he built his whole fucked up business model , where he tried to sell not the service of creating that data , but the data itself .
Which only worked at all , because he noticed that there were a lot of idiots who would actually pay for that , and cave in to his sick delusions.And because he happens to have tricked artists into adhesion contracts to offer this    service    to them , he now thinks he    owns    this    goods    ( the games ) .The worst thing of that all , is not the delusional idiot with the fucked up business model .
It    s that he gets trough with it , because people like you not only let him , but even use his wording and mindset , and therewith actively support him.I know you are more intelligent that that.I know that after all the daily brainwashing in the media , one gets so used to it , that one starts to think that way oneself.I know that you don    t really believe in that shit , and rather agree with me.I know that one can forget that one is in that mindset , because of being so used to it.So I thought I    d wake you up , so you could become yourself again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do you even realize how fucked up that mindset is, that you bought into?Their system?
You fuckin’ bought it!
You own it!Pirating?
Do I have to explain this again?
http://7.media.tumblr.com/4nZBASoSAd79pgh9yEG2ZCPi\_500.png [tumblr.com]What you describe, is is physical reality, described like this:You bought a computer in form of a game console, but then noticed that the designer employed some tricks to keep you from doing certain things whit it, despite you having payed and owning the device.
Which of course did only hold for so long, until you were able to break it open.
Because physical access &gt; root access.Then you would copy some data / ideas (in this case, games), which are NOT physical goods, from someone.
Which is a normal thing that is a basis of human civilization.But some fucked up retard asshole douchebag would argue that you did hurt him with it.
Which of course is physically impossible.
His reasoning would stem from the deliberate misunderstanding of physics of treating data / ideas as physical goods, and the resulting the staight out lie, that this means that you would have taken it away from someone and not even giving something back.On top of that he built his whole fucked up business model, where he tried to sell not the service of creating that data, but the data itself.
Which only worked at all, because he noticed that there were a lot of idiots who would actually pay for that, and cave in to his sick delusions.And because he happens to have tricked artists into adhesion contracts to offer this “service” to them, he now thinks he “owns” this “goods” (the games).The worst thing of that all, is not the delusional idiot with the fucked up business model.
It’s that he gets trough with it, because people like you not only let him, but even use his wording and mindset, and therewith actively support him.I know you are more intelligent that that.I know that after all the daily brainwashing in the media, one gets so used to it, that one starts to think that way oneself.I know that you don’t really believe in that shit, and rather agree with me.I know that one can forget that one is in that mindset, because of being so used to it.So I thought I’d wake you up, so you could become yourself again.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30894078</id>
	<title>Re:Cheating</title>
	<author>TheUser0x58</author>
	<datestamp>1264450440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Then you can alter the packet data to your heart's content.</p></div><p>Well, that form of cheating can be trivially prevented with <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Message\_authentication\_code" title="wikipedia.org">basic cryptography</a> [wikipedia.org].  There are other data verification steps (various forms of sanity checking) typically done on the server end as well.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Then you can alter the packet data to your heart 's content.Well , that form of cheating can be trivially prevented with basic cryptography [ wikipedia.org ] .
There are other data verification steps ( various forms of sanity checking ) typically done on the server end as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Then you can alter the packet data to your heart's content.Well, that form of cheating can be trivially prevented with basic cryptography [wikipedia.org].
There are other data verification steps (various forms of sanity checking) typically done on the server end as well.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30889940</id>
	<title>Re:Cheating</title>
	<author>GORby\_</author>
	<datestamp>1264434660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hmm, you must be Steve Jobs...<br><nobr> <wbr></nobr>... if you'd like for PC's to be like iPhones!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hmm , you must be Steve Jobs... ... if you 'd like for PC 's to be like iPhones !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hmm, you must be Steve Jobs... ... if you'd like for PC's to be like iPhones!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30888696</id>
	<title>Is this legal?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264428180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I remember when you could purchase products for the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (Super Famicom) and later on, the Nintendo 64, that allowed you to look at and modify memory. It was sold legally at stores and <a href="http://www.playerschoicevideogames.com/pd\_gameshark.cfm" title="playerscho...ogames.com" rel="nofollow">online</a> [playerscho...ogames.com].
<br> <br>
I wonder if it is legal to create a CD/DVD or simply use a USB key to install software for the PS3 that allows you to do the same thing? Or better yet, make it available as a download from the Online Store?
<br> <br>
I'd imagine the market for this would be reasonable enough to profit from the endeavour...</htmltext>
<tokenext>I remember when you could purchase products for the Super Nintendo Entertainment System ( Super Famicom ) and later on , the Nintendo 64 , that allowed you to look at and modify memory .
It was sold legally at stores and online [ playerscho...ogames.com ] .
I wonder if it is legal to create a CD/DVD or simply use a USB key to install software for the PS3 that allows you to do the same thing ?
Or better yet , make it available as a download from the Online Store ?
I 'd imagine the market for this would be reasonable enough to profit from the endeavour.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I remember when you could purchase products for the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (Super Famicom) and later on, the Nintendo 64, that allowed you to look at and modify memory.
It was sold legally at stores and online [playerscho...ogames.com].
I wonder if it is legal to create a CD/DVD or simply use a USB key to install software for the PS3 that allows you to do the same thing?
Or better yet, make it available as a download from the Online Store?
I'd imagine the market for this would be reasonable enough to profit from the endeavour...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30888256</id>
	<title>I really want XBMC-HD for PS3</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264423500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This whole DLNA (DNLA?) rubbish is gross, it's so backwards.<br>I don't want to transcode, I just want a damned good media centre (and a gaming machine!) the XBMC devs had started considering work on the PS3 a long time ago but then Sony closed the loophole to access the video card under linux (or rather accelerated mode?) so it was scrapped.</p><p>The PS3 is a fantastic chunk of hardware and while I'd really rather not get banned from their system as I have no intention (or time anymore) to pirate games, I'd love to see the machine play back stuff a bit better. (it does fairly well now but it's nothing on XBMC)<br>The machine has 256mb of system ram, does 1080p output, optical output, 7.1 dolby hardware, wifi, hard disk, USB 2.0, gigabit networking - it's more than enough to do HD XBMC.<br>Fingers crossed in 12 to 18 months time there's some kind of news.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This whole DLNA ( DNLA ?
) rubbish is gross , it 's so backwards.I do n't want to transcode , I just want a damned good media centre ( and a gaming machine !
) the XBMC devs had started considering work on the PS3 a long time ago but then Sony closed the loophole to access the video card under linux ( or rather accelerated mode ?
) so it was scrapped.The PS3 is a fantastic chunk of hardware and while I 'd really rather not get banned from their system as I have no intention ( or time anymore ) to pirate games , I 'd love to see the machine play back stuff a bit better .
( it does fairly well now but it 's nothing on XBMC ) The machine has 256mb of system ram , does 1080p output , optical output , 7.1 dolby hardware , wifi , hard disk , USB 2.0 , gigabit networking - it 's more than enough to do HD XBMC.Fingers crossed in 12 to 18 months time there 's some kind of news .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This whole DLNA (DNLA?
) rubbish is gross, it's so backwards.I don't want to transcode, I just want a damned good media centre (and a gaming machine!
) the XBMC devs had started considering work on the PS3 a long time ago but then Sony closed the loophole to access the video card under linux (or rather accelerated mode?
) so it was scrapped.The PS3 is a fantastic chunk of hardware and while I'd really rather not get banned from their system as I have no intention (or time anymore) to pirate games, I'd love to see the machine play back stuff a bit better.
(it does fairly well now but it's nothing on XBMC)The machine has 256mb of system ram, does 1080p output, optical output, 7.1 dolby hardware, wifi, hard disk, USB 2.0, gigabit networking - it's more than enough to do HD XBMC.Fingers crossed in 12 to 18 months time there's some kind of news.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30890406</id>
	<title>Re:Cheating</title>
	<author>tbcn</author>
	<datestamp>1264436520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Regarding the limited PC.</p><p>It's already done, it's called The Mac.<br>Well, almost.</p><p>The iPhone is like that. Still, I don't think there are any limitations to where you want to call.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Regarding the limited PC.It 's already done , it 's called The Mac.Well , almost.The iPhone is like that .
Still , I do n't think there are any limitations to where you want to call .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Regarding the limited PC.It's already done, it's called The Mac.Well, almost.The iPhone is like that.
Still, I don't think there are any limitations to where you want to call.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_25_0654253.30889876</id>
	<title>Re:Errr - NO! Hom,ebrew not already possible.</title>
	<author>tius</author>
	<datestamp>1264434420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I compile and run some computational codes under Linux on my PS3 and I for one would be much happier if disk and network access didn't have to go through the hypervisor.  I strongly suspect that performance would increase.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I compile and run some computational codes under Linux on my PS3 and I for one would be much happier if disk and network access did n't have to go through the hypervisor .
I strongly suspect that performance would increase .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I compile and run some computational codes under Linux on my PS3 and I for one would be much happier if disk and network access didn't have to go through the hypervisor.
I strongly suspect that performance would increase.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Cheating</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264425120000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Dunno where you've been, but they've "hacked" the xbox to allow custom code on it. The scene has actually exploded in the past few weeks/months. It definitely isn't just for backups anymore.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dunno where you 've been , but they 've " hacked " the xbox to allow custom code on it .
The scene has actually exploded in the past few weeks/months .
It definitely is n't just for backups anymore .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dunno where you've been, but they've "hacked" the xbox to allow custom code on it.
The scene has actually exploded in the past few weeks/months.
It definitely isn't just for backups anymore.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Cheating</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264452180000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>I hope that you do not honestly believe what you just said.  I'm sure you do, though.</p><p>By easily, you really mean it will take months or years worth of trial/error/guesswork and most likely some account/hardware bans, just to reverse the checksum algos and start testing your mods (assuming the target platform is a PS3).  Either that or it wasn't a game worth hacking anyway - if there is no packet protection there's likely a lot of other things 'missing' in the usability/playability department as well.  When you do finally succeed, the console will be outdated and nobody will be playing that game anymore anyways.  This is why you can't currently just google for and download any number of 'gateway cheats', or why you would be able to if it were actually a feasible method of cheating (as easily as you describe).</p><p>As trivial as this might be to do on a PC, consoles are a different breed of machinery - except in the case of an xbox as it's x86 for the most part.  It may be easy to alter a packet, but actually signing that alteration (which any modern game server software *will* or should require) takes (a little more than no) skill.</p><p>I'd probably cringe at your definition of hard (if one exists, and you don't pile everything into the very easy/probably easy/not so easily categories).  Your post reminds me of some bosses I've had.</p><p>I'm also actually curious what past platforms you are speaking of, but when I really think about it I'm sure it's just bs or was first-gen stuff (ie: nothing people have been playing in the past 10 years).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I hope that you do not honestly believe what you just said .
I 'm sure you do , though.By easily , you really mean it will take months or years worth of trial/error/guesswork and most likely some account/hardware bans , just to reverse the checksum algos and start testing your mods ( assuming the target platform is a PS3 ) .
Either that or it was n't a game worth hacking anyway - if there is no packet protection there 's likely a lot of other things 'missing ' in the usability/playability department as well .
When you do finally succeed , the console will be outdated and nobody will be playing that game anymore anyways .
This is why you ca n't currently just google for and download any number of 'gateway cheats ' , or why you would be able to if it were actually a feasible method of cheating ( as easily as you describe ) .As trivial as this might be to do on a PC , consoles are a different breed of machinery - except in the case of an xbox as it 's x86 for the most part .
It may be easy to alter a packet , but actually signing that alteration ( which any modern game server software * will * or should require ) takes ( a little more than no ) skill.I 'd probably cringe at your definition of hard ( if one exists , and you do n't pile everything into the very easy/probably easy/not so easily categories ) .
Your post reminds me of some bosses I 've had.I 'm also actually curious what past platforms you are speaking of , but when I really think about it I 'm sure it 's just bs or was first-gen stuff ( ie : nothing people have been playing in the past 10 years ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hope that you do not honestly believe what you just said.
I'm sure you do, though.By easily, you really mean it will take months or years worth of trial/error/guesswork and most likely some account/hardware bans, just to reverse the checksum algos and start testing your mods (assuming the target platform is a PS3).
Either that or it wasn't a game worth hacking anyway - if there is no packet protection there's likely a lot of other things 'missing' in the usability/playability department as well.
When you do finally succeed, the console will be outdated and nobody will be playing that game anymore anyways.
This is why you can't currently just google for and download any number of 'gateway cheats', or why you would be able to if it were actually a feasible method of cheating (as easily as you describe).As trivial as this might be to do on a PC, consoles are a different breed of machinery - except in the case of an xbox as it's x86 for the most part.
It may be easy to alter a packet, but actually signing that alteration (which any modern game server software *will* or should require) takes (a little more than no) skill.I'd probably cringe at your definition of hard (if one exists, and you don't pile everything into the very easy/probably easy/not so easily categories).
Your post reminds me of some bosses I've had.I'm also actually curious what past platforms you are speaking of, but when I really think about it I'm sure it's just bs or was first-gen stuff (ie: nothing people have been playing in the past 10 years).</sentencetext>
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