<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_01_22_187243</id>
	<title>IBM Sets Areal Density Record for Magnetic Tape</title>
	<author>ScuttleMonkey</author>
	<datestamp>1264149420000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>digitalPhant0m writes to tell us that IBM researchers have set a <a href="http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/made-in-ibm-labs-ibm-research-sets-new-record-in-magnetic-tape-data-density-82330257.html">new world record for areal data density</a> on linear magnetic tape, weighing in at around 29.5 billion bits per square inch.  This achievement is roughly 39 times the density of current industry standard magnetic tape.  <i>"To achieve this feat, IBM Research has developed several new critical technologies, and for the past three years worked closely with FUJIFILM to optimize its next-generation dual-coat magnetic tape based on barium ferrite (BaFe) particles. [...] These new technologies are estimated to enable cartridge capacities that could hold up to 35 trillion bytes (terabytes) of uncompressed data. This is about 44 times the capacity of today's IBM LTO Generation 4 cartridge. A capacity of 35 terabytes of data is sufficient to store the text of 35 million books, which would require 248 miles (399 km) of bookshelves."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>digitalPhant0m writes to tell us that IBM researchers have set a new world record for areal data density on linear magnetic tape , weighing in at around 29.5 billion bits per square inch .
This achievement is roughly 39 times the density of current industry standard magnetic tape .
" To achieve this feat , IBM Research has developed several new critical technologies , and for the past three years worked closely with FUJIFILM to optimize its next-generation dual-coat magnetic tape based on barium ferrite ( BaFe ) particles .
[ ... ] These new technologies are estimated to enable cartridge capacities that could hold up to 35 trillion bytes ( terabytes ) of uncompressed data .
This is about 44 times the capacity of today 's IBM LTO Generation 4 cartridge .
A capacity of 35 terabytes of data is sufficient to store the text of 35 million books , which would require 248 miles ( 399 km ) of bookshelves .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>digitalPhant0m writes to tell us that IBM researchers have set a new world record for areal data density on linear magnetic tape, weighing in at around 29.5 billion bits per square inch.
This achievement is roughly 39 times the density of current industry standard magnetic tape.
"To achieve this feat, IBM Research has developed several new critical technologies, and for the past three years worked closely with FUJIFILM to optimize its next-generation dual-coat magnetic tape based on barium ferrite (BaFe) particles.
[...] These new technologies are estimated to enable cartridge capacities that could hold up to 35 trillion bytes (terabytes) of uncompressed data.
This is about 44 times the capacity of today's IBM LTO Generation 4 cartridge.
A capacity of 35 terabytes of data is sufficient to store the text of 35 million books, which would require 248 miles (399 km) of bookshelves.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30865182</id>
	<title>Re:Stupid Units</title>
	<author>Stratoukos</author>
	<datestamp>1264164540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Why don't they say "a 35TB tape is enough to hold 5 million full CDs, or 7,778 full DVDs? That's a comparison that people could actually relate to, that is actually factual, and isn't just some kind of primitive awe at how efficient we've become now that we store data on something not made of mashed trees.</p></div><p>And since we're on slashdot this is redundant too. Is there anyone reading this article and going "Golly gee 35TB, that's a mighty big number. I wonder how many CDs/DVDs/Libraries of Congress would fit in there".</p><p>I wonder if astrophysicists say stuff like "The diameter of the visible universe is 93 billion light years. That's 5 million billion billions Washington monuments"</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why do n't they say " a 35TB tape is enough to hold 5 million full CDs , or 7,778 full DVDs ?
That 's a comparison that people could actually relate to , that is actually factual , and is n't just some kind of primitive awe at how efficient we 've become now that we store data on something not made of mashed trees.And since we 're on slashdot this is redundant too .
Is there anyone reading this article and going " Golly gee 35TB , that 's a mighty big number .
I wonder how many CDs/DVDs/Libraries of Congress would fit in there " .I wonder if astrophysicists say stuff like " The diameter of the visible universe is 93 billion light years .
That 's 5 million billion billions Washington monuments "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why don't they say "a 35TB tape is enough to hold 5 million full CDs, or 7,778 full DVDs?
That's a comparison that people could actually relate to, that is actually factual, and isn't just some kind of primitive awe at how efficient we've become now that we store data on something not made of mashed trees.And since we're on slashdot this is redundant too.
Is there anyone reading this article and going "Golly gee 35TB, that's a mighty big number.
I wonder how many CDs/DVDs/Libraries of Congress would fit in there".I wonder if astrophysicists say stuff like "The diameter of the visible universe is 93 billion light years.
That's 5 million billion billions Washington monuments"
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30863406</id>
	<title>Re:In other news...</title>
	<author>afidel</author>
	<datestamp>1264154340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Are you saying tape is outdated? Because for organizations that have large storage requirements you can't get any cheaper than tape, and it has superior archival and transportation properties than HDD's as well.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Are you saying tape is outdated ?
Because for organizations that have large storage requirements you ca n't get any cheaper than tape , and it has superior archival and transportation properties than HDD 's as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are you saying tape is outdated?
Because for organizations that have large storage requirements you can't get any cheaper than tape, and it has superior archival and transportation properties than HDD's as well.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30863442</id>
	<title>Re:What about write speed?</title>
	<author>jeffmeden</author>
	<datestamp>1264154520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They don't say how wide the track of information is... which relieves you of the need to convert from metric to imperial since the comparison is useless anyway!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They do n't say how wide the track of information is... which relieves you of the need to convert from metric to imperial since the comparison is useless anyway !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They don't say how wide the track of information is... which relieves you of the need to convert from metric to imperial since the comparison is useless anyway!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30863232</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30863156</id>
	<title>AWESOME!</title>
	<author>Monkeedude1212</author>
	<datestamp>1264153200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Casette Tapes are coming back!</p><p>If Only I still had a Deck!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Casette Tapes are coming back ! If Only I still had a Deck !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Casette Tapes are coming back!If Only I still had a Deck!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30863292</id>
	<title>i had to look up 'areal'</title>
	<author>AP31R0N</author>
	<datestamp>1264153860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Are`al<br>Of or pertaining to an area; as, areal interstices (the areas or spaces inclosed by the reticulate vessels of leaves).</p><p>Inclose is a word too.  Huh.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Are ` alOf or pertaining to an area ; as , areal interstices ( the areas or spaces inclosed by the reticulate vessels of leaves ) .Inclose is a word too .
Huh .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are`alOf or pertaining to an area; as, areal interstices (the areas or spaces inclosed by the reticulate vessels of leaves).Inclose is a word too.
Huh.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30863512</id>
	<title>Just don't sneeze on the tape</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264155000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oops. We didn't need that 35TB of data anyway.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oops .
We did n't need that 35TB of data anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oops.
We didn't need that 35TB of data anyway.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30864330</id>
	<title>Re:What about write speed?</title>
	<author>belrick</author>
	<datestamp>1264158720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If the areal density increases uniformly in both directions, then you can expect that the read/write speed goes up by the square root of the areal density increase.  That is, for 43.75 you'd expect a speed increase of at least between 6 and 7 times.  Note that sometimes the density increase is achieved in only one direction or the other, depending on what technology was used to achieve it, in which case all or none of the density increase results in speed increase.</p><p>You can achieve speed increases by using multiple heads.  LTO and the 3590/3592 proprietary tape technology on which it is based use 8 or 16 tracks read/written simultaneously, with tracks interleaved.  There might be 256 tracks with tracks 1, 17, 33,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>..., 241 being accessed, then 2, 18,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>..., 242. etc.  Doubling the number of tracks (density increase of 2 widthwise) wouldn't increase read/write speed.  Doubling the number of tracks while simultaneously doubling the number of heads would.</p><p>Note that with 8 or 16 heads spread across the tape width, error correction is achieved by writing a matrix of bits (across the tape as well as down the length) with ECC bits added.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If the areal density increases uniformly in both directions , then you can expect that the read/write speed goes up by the square root of the areal density increase .
That is , for 43.75 you 'd expect a speed increase of at least between 6 and 7 times .
Note that sometimes the density increase is achieved in only one direction or the other , depending on what technology was used to achieve it , in which case all or none of the density increase results in speed increase.You can achieve speed increases by using multiple heads .
LTO and the 3590/3592 proprietary tape technology on which it is based use 8 or 16 tracks read/written simultaneously , with tracks interleaved .
There might be 256 tracks with tracks 1 , 17 , 33 , ... , 241 being accessed , then 2 , 18 , ... , 242. etc. Doubling the number of tracks ( density increase of 2 widthwise ) would n't increase read/write speed .
Doubling the number of tracks while simultaneously doubling the number of heads would.Note that with 8 or 16 heads spread across the tape width , error correction is achieved by writing a matrix of bits ( across the tape as well as down the length ) with ECC bits added .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the areal density increases uniformly in both directions, then you can expect that the read/write speed goes up by the square root of the areal density increase.
That is, for 43.75 you'd expect a speed increase of at least between 6 and 7 times.
Note that sometimes the density increase is achieved in only one direction or the other, depending on what technology was used to achieve it, in which case all or none of the density increase results in speed increase.You can achieve speed increases by using multiple heads.
LTO and the 3590/3592 proprietary tape technology on which it is based use 8 or 16 tracks read/written simultaneously, with tracks interleaved.
There might be 256 tracks with tracks 1, 17, 33, ..., 241 being accessed, then 2, 18, ..., 242. etc.  Doubling the number of tracks (density increase of 2 widthwise) wouldn't increase read/write speed.
Doubling the number of tracks while simultaneously doubling the number of heads would.Note that with 8 or 16 heads spread across the tape width, error correction is achieved by writing a matrix of bits (across the tape as well as down the length) with ECC bits added.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30863244</id>
	<title>Man .. fill up your station wagon *those* tapes!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264153620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>And see how many "libraries of congress" you can shift coast to coast (google maps says about 41 hours DC to LA by car)</htmltext>
<tokenext>And see how many " libraries of congress " you can shift coast to coast ( google maps says about 41 hours DC to LA by car )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And see how many "libraries of congress" you can shift coast to coast (google maps says about 41 hours DC to LA by car)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30866650</id>
	<title>Re:In other news...</title>
	<author>StuartHankins</author>
	<datestamp>1264177800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yep. I have several DC2120's with personal data that I just haven't been able to convince myself to get rid of. I have floppies using LHArc compression. I have Central Point Backup backups spanning a dozen or so HD 3.5" floppy disks each. I also have a SyQuest EZFlyer 230MB SCSI cartridge or two and just got rid of some old IOMega Zip 100 disks from when I had my parallel Zip drive. These are just since 1990 or so for the IBM-compatible platform.<br> <br>
No doubt many of you have more interesting backups -- that are totally useless unless you a) have a VM or OS to load them in, or have the OS disks to create such a system; b) have whatever backup software you used at the time; and c) have whatever hardware is needed to read the media.<br> <br>I'd wager that the Central Point backups on 3.5" floppies would be tough to restore, even though floppies are still around. I've already gotten rid of most if not all of my disks for the TRS-80 Models 3 and 4, Commodore PET and C-64, and Apple ][e... I just couldn't justify keeping them with those devices gone. I'm sure some of my old code would look pretty lame, if I could only see it again. Hell, I had LOGO disks in middle school for the course I took over the summer at the local community college. It would be interesting (for me) to see that old stuff.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yep .
I have several DC2120 's with personal data that I just have n't been able to convince myself to get rid of .
I have floppies using LHArc compression .
I have Central Point Backup backups spanning a dozen or so HD 3.5 " floppy disks each .
I also have a SyQuest EZFlyer 230MB SCSI cartridge or two and just got rid of some old IOMega Zip 100 disks from when I had my parallel Zip drive .
These are just since 1990 or so for the IBM-compatible platform .
No doubt many of you have more interesting backups -- that are totally useless unless you a ) have a VM or OS to load them in , or have the OS disks to create such a system ; b ) have whatever backup software you used at the time ; and c ) have whatever hardware is needed to read the media .
I 'd wager that the Central Point backups on 3.5 " floppies would be tough to restore , even though floppies are still around .
I 've already gotten rid of most if not all of my disks for the TRS-80 Models 3 and 4 , Commodore PET and C-64 , and Apple ] [ e... I just could n't justify keeping them with those devices gone .
I 'm sure some of my old code would look pretty lame , if I could only see it again .
Hell , I had LOGO disks in middle school for the course I took over the summer at the local community college .
It would be interesting ( for me ) to see that old stuff .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yep.
I have several DC2120's with personal data that I just haven't been able to convince myself to get rid of.
I have floppies using LHArc compression.
I have Central Point Backup backups spanning a dozen or so HD 3.5" floppy disks each.
I also have a SyQuest EZFlyer 230MB SCSI cartridge or two and just got rid of some old IOMega Zip 100 disks from when I had my parallel Zip drive.
These are just since 1990 or so for the IBM-compatible platform.
No doubt many of you have more interesting backups -- that are totally useless unless you a) have a VM or OS to load them in, or have the OS disks to create such a system; b) have whatever backup software you used at the time; and c) have whatever hardware is needed to read the media.
I'd wager that the Central Point backups on 3.5" floppies would be tough to restore, even though floppies are still around.
I've already gotten rid of most if not all of my disks for the TRS-80 Models 3 and 4, Commodore PET and C-64, and Apple ][e... I just couldn't justify keeping them with those devices gone.
I'm sure some of my old code would look pretty lame, if I could only see it again.
Hell, I had LOGO disks in middle school for the course I took over the summer at the local community college.
It would be interesting (for me) to see that old stuff.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30863258</id>
	<title>Convenient Units</title>
	<author>Zaphod The 42nd</author>
	<datestamp>1264153680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So in other words, 3.6875 GB/ inch^2

We have units for this stuff guys, dunno why we suddenly went back to "billion bits"</htmltext>
<tokenext>So in other words , 3.6875 GB/ inch ^ 2 We have units for this stuff guys , dunno why we suddenly went back to " billion bits "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So in other words, 3.6875 GB/ inch^2

We have units for this stuff guys, dunno why we suddenly went back to "billion bits"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30863198</id>
	<title>What about write speed?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264153380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>So what about speed?  What good is the ability to store 35TB of data, if it takes you a week to write/read it?</htmltext>
<tokenext>So what about speed ?
What good is the ability to store 35TB of data , if it takes you a week to write/read it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So what about speed?
What good is the ability to store 35TB of data, if it takes you a week to write/read it?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30863778</id>
	<title>Re:blu-ray movies on my VHS</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264156320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dude, it's 35 TB, not GB.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dude , it 's 35 TB , not GB .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dude, it's 35 TB, not GB.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30863542</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30869110</id>
	<title>Yeah</title>
	<author>DrYak</author>
	<datestamp>1264256580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It takes real silicon experts to achieve this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It takes real silicon experts to achieve this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It takes real silicon experts to achieve this.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30863142</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.31033144</id>
	<title>Re:Convenient Units</title>
	<author>RivenAleem</author>
	<datestamp>1265373540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How many libraries of congress is this?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How many libraries of congress is this ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How many libraries of congress is this?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30863258</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30863536</id>
	<title>Is There</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264155180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>a USB port for my Kindle uploads?</p><p>Thanks in advance.</p><p>Yours In Murmansk,<br>Kilgore Trout</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>a USB port for my Kindle uploads ? Thanks in advance.Yours In Murmansk,Kilgore Trout</tokentext>
<sentencetext>a USB port for my Kindle uploads?Thanks in advance.Yours In Murmansk,Kilgore Trout</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30863388</id>
	<title>Re:Convenient Units</title>
	<author>mrvan</author>
	<datestamp>1264154220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>yeah, who would use a unit such as bit when he could also use something like GB?</p><p>And if we're doing the unit thing, what about (centi)meters instead of inches???</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>yeah , who would use a unit such as bit when he could also use something like GB ? And if we 're doing the unit thing , what about ( centi ) meters instead of inches ? ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>yeah, who would use a unit such as bit when he could also use something like GB?And if we're doing the unit thing, what about (centi)meters instead of inches??
?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30863258</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30865180</id>
	<title>Re:Stupid Units</title>
	<author>OzPeter</author>
	<datestamp>1264164540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You never worked with VAX documentation did you?  That stuff demanded measurements in bookshelf lengths.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You never worked with VAX documentation did you ?
That stuff demanded measurements in bookshelf lengths .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You never worked with VAX documentation did you?
That stuff demanded measurements in bookshelf lengths.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30864106</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30878150</id>
	<title>Re:Stupid Units</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264347840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Exactly! And every Joe Sixpack out there is already familiar with gigabytes and terabytes from the new stuff in his living room. Using the idiotic "standard book" (wtf?) metric is an insult to all intelligence. I have to go look up who wrote that and email something back.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Exactly !
And every Joe Sixpack out there is already familiar with gigabytes and terabytes from the new stuff in his living room .
Using the idiotic " standard book " ( wtf ?
) metric is an insult to all intelligence .
I have to go look up who wrote that and email something back .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Exactly!
And every Joe Sixpack out there is already familiar with gigabytes and terabytes from the new stuff in his living room.
Using the idiotic "standard book" (wtf?
) metric is an insult to all intelligence.
I have to go look up who wrote that and email something back.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30864106</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30863440</id>
	<title>In other news...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264154520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Joe's Pizza Delivery and Data Courier Co loses the personal health and financial records of every human being on earth.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Joe 's Pizza Delivery and Data Courier Co loses the personal health and financial records of every human being on earth .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Joe's Pizza Delivery and Data Courier Co loses the personal health and financial records of every human being on earth.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30869918</id>
	<title>Areola density</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264264980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Naturally, areola density is encoded in Braille.</p><p>My research hasn't been as extensive as I'd like, but I've come to the conclusion that the information density of the areola is pretty limited.  One bit per areola is the most I've encountered so far.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Naturally , areola density is encoded in Braille.My research has n't been as extensive as I 'd like , but I 've come to the conclusion that the information density of the areola is pretty limited .
One bit per areola is the most I 've encountered so far .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Naturally, areola density is encoded in Braille.My research hasn't been as extensive as I'd like, but I've come to the conclusion that the information density of the areola is pretty limited.
One bit per areola is the most I've encountered so far.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30864106</id>
	<title>Stupid Units</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264157760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why bother explaining how many miles of bookshelves would be needed to hold some amount of digital data? We don't explain how long a bookshelf would have to be to hold all the data in an HDTV screenful, and 35TB data tapes are probably going to hold more graphics than text. Besides, how big is the type in the books filling that shelf? And who but a librarian is going to relate to miles of bookshelves as a meaningful comparison, anyway?</p><p>Why don't they say "a 35TB tape is enough to hold 5 million full CDs, or 7,778 full DVDs? That's a comparison that people could actually relate to, that is actually factual, and isn't just some kind of primitive awe at how efficient we've become now that we store data on something not made of mashed trees.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why bother explaining how many miles of bookshelves would be needed to hold some amount of digital data ?
We do n't explain how long a bookshelf would have to be to hold all the data in an HDTV screenful , and 35TB data tapes are probably going to hold more graphics than text .
Besides , how big is the type in the books filling that shelf ?
And who but a librarian is going to relate to miles of bookshelves as a meaningful comparison , anyway ? Why do n't they say " a 35TB tape is enough to hold 5 million full CDs , or 7,778 full DVDs ?
That 's a comparison that people could actually relate to , that is actually factual , and is n't just some kind of primitive awe at how efficient we 've become now that we store data on something not made of mashed trees .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why bother explaining how many miles of bookshelves would be needed to hold some amount of digital data?
We don't explain how long a bookshelf would have to be to hold all the data in an HDTV screenful, and 35TB data tapes are probably going to hold more graphics than text.
Besides, how big is the type in the books filling that shelf?
And who but a librarian is going to relate to miles of bookshelves as a meaningful comparison, anyway?Why don't they say "a 35TB tape is enough to hold 5 million full CDs, or 7,778 full DVDs?
That's a comparison that people could actually relate to, that is actually factual, and isn't just some kind of primitive awe at how efficient we've become now that we store data on something not made of mashed trees.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30865000</id>
	<title>Re:In other news...</title>
	<author>moosesocks</author>
	<datestamp>1264163340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Also consider that ATA hard drives have been electronically compatible since 1986.</p><p>Serial ATA was the first revision to the spec that broke backward compatibility, although that claim is even debatable, given that SATA-&gt;PATA adapters are available, and are generally rather simple devices.</p><p>SCSI's a bit more complicated, although you SCSI adapters should be around for a long time to come.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Also consider that ATA hard drives have been electronically compatible since 1986.Serial ATA was the first revision to the spec that broke backward compatibility , although that claim is even debatable , given that SATA- &gt; PATA adapters are available , and are generally rather simple devices.SCSI 's a bit more complicated , although you SCSI adapters should be around for a long time to come .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Also consider that ATA hard drives have been electronically compatible since 1986.Serial ATA was the first revision to the spec that broke backward compatibility, although that claim is even debatable, given that SATA-&gt;PATA adapters are available, and are generally rather simple devices.SCSI's a bit more complicated, although you SCSI adapters should be around for a long time to come.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30863266</id>
	<title>Re:What about write speed?</title>
	<author>vacarul</author>
	<datestamp>1264153680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I can only think of baaackuuup... <br>
<br>
<b>never</b> a bad ideea.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I can only think of baaackuuup.. . never a bad ideea .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can only think of baaackuuup... 

never a bad ideea.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30867576</id>
	<title>Re:In other news...</title>
	<author>evilviper</author>
	<datestamp>1264190100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Don't need to transport HDDs. You just need a big fat fiber-optic connection.</p></div></blockquote><p>While I'm as big a fan of rsync as any, if latency isn't a major issue, a van full of tapes is very likely faster and cheaper.</p><p>And for archiving, often on-line storage just isn't practical or otherwise doesn't make sense, so are you going to trust those platters in a box to spin-up after 20 years sitting on a shelf?</p><p>Tapes' domain has vastly shrunk, but it still has a pretty major seat in the world of data.</p><p>It looks like tape is going to be able to keep up for some time to come.  Optical disks, OTOH, are too damn small.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't need to transport HDDs .
You just need a big fat fiber-optic connection.While I 'm as big a fan of rsync as any , if latency is n't a major issue , a van full of tapes is very likely faster and cheaper.And for archiving , often on-line storage just is n't practical or otherwise does n't make sense , so are you going to trust those platters in a box to spin-up after 20 years sitting on a shelf ? Tapes ' domain has vastly shrunk , but it still has a pretty major seat in the world of data.It looks like tape is going to be able to keep up for some time to come .
Optical disks , OTOH , are too damn small .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't need to transport HDDs.
You just need a big fat fiber-optic connection.While I'm as big a fan of rsync as any, if latency isn't a major issue, a van full of tapes is very likely faster and cheaper.And for archiving, often on-line storage just isn't practical or otherwise doesn't make sense, so are you going to trust those platters in a box to spin-up after 20 years sitting on a shelf?Tapes' domain has vastly shrunk, but it still has a pretty major seat in the world of data.It looks like tape is going to be able to keep up for some time to come.
Optical disks, OTOH, are too damn small.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30865040</id>
	<title>Re:Stupid Units</title>
	<author>Gothmolly</author>
	<datestamp>1264163640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ironic, that the mashed trees you so easily dismiss will actually outlast your fancy-schmancy tapes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ironic , that the mashed trees you so easily dismiss will actually outlast your fancy-schmancy tapes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ironic, that the mashed trees you so easily dismiss will actually outlast your fancy-schmancy tapes.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30863232</id>
	<title>Re:What about write speed?</title>
	<author>Seth Kriticos</author>
	<datestamp>1264153560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>2 meters per second * (around 29.5 billion bits per square inch * meter modifier). go, figure..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>2 meters per second * ( around 29.5 billion bits per square inch * meter modifier ) .
go , figure. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>2 meters per second * (around 29.5 billion bits per square inch * meter modifier).
go, figure..</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30863682</id>
	<title>That's pretty cool</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264155900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Too bad IBM don't make hard disk drives anymore...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Too bad IBM do n't make hard disk drives anymore.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Too bad IBM don't make hard disk drives anymore...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30863166</id>
	<title>Re:Man</title>
	<author>hoboroadie</author>
	<datestamp>1264153260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have done some consulting work.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have done some consulting work .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have done some consulting work.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30863142</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30866834</id>
	<title>BAH! Disk will rule.. 1TB SATA $80</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264179780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sure it sounds great.<br>By the time the drives and cartridges come out disk will still be cheaper.<br>Tape is dead.<br>The cost and speed issues will kill tape unless they get these advances from the lab to the store FAST.<br>1TB SATA $80</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sure it sounds great.By the time the drives and cartridges come out disk will still be cheaper.Tape is dead.The cost and speed issues will kill tape unless they get these advances from the lab to the store FAST.1TB SATA $ 80</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sure it sounds great.By the time the drives and cartridges come out disk will still be cheaper.Tape is dead.The cost and speed issues will kill tape unless they get these advances from the lab to the store FAST.1TB SATA $80</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30863868</id>
	<title>Re:In other news...</title>
	<author>Archangel Michael</author>
	<datestamp>1264156740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Tape is dead. Long live Tape.</p><p>Don't need to transport HDDs. You just need a big fat fiber-optic connection.</p><p>And what is the point of archiving if in a few years you can't find the drives or the controllers or the whatever to read the media? Having been in this industry for this long, I've already experienced having an archive of something but not able to find a drive to read it. Remember the old TRS-80 and the audio tape drives? State of the art 30-35 years ago, utterly useless today. Even if I could find a cassette player, I'd still have no way for any modern computer to read it, short of inventing it over again.</p><p>You think that is rare? How about 8" floppies?, How about Zip, Bernoulli drives, Heck it is getting hard to find 3.5" drives.</p><p>If your archival horizon is longer than about 10 years, you're looking at the wrong life cycle planning. Do you think whatever flavor of SAS we have today is going to exist in 15 years?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Tape is dead .
Long live Tape.Do n't need to transport HDDs .
You just need a big fat fiber-optic connection.And what is the point of archiving if in a few years you ca n't find the drives or the controllers or the whatever to read the media ?
Having been in this industry for this long , I 've already experienced having an archive of something but not able to find a drive to read it .
Remember the old TRS-80 and the audio tape drives ?
State of the art 30-35 years ago , utterly useless today .
Even if I could find a cassette player , I 'd still have no way for any modern computer to read it , short of inventing it over again.You think that is rare ?
How about 8 " floppies ? , How about Zip , Bernoulli drives , Heck it is getting hard to find 3.5 " drives.If your archival horizon is longer than about 10 years , you 're looking at the wrong life cycle planning .
Do you think whatever flavor of SAS we have today is going to exist in 15 years ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tape is dead.
Long live Tape.Don't need to transport HDDs.
You just need a big fat fiber-optic connection.And what is the point of archiving if in a few years you can't find the drives or the controllers or the whatever to read the media?
Having been in this industry for this long, I've already experienced having an archive of something but not able to find a drive to read it.
Remember the old TRS-80 and the audio tape drives?
State of the art 30-35 years ago, utterly useless today.
Even if I could find a cassette player, I'd still have no way for any modern computer to read it, short of inventing it over again.You think that is rare?
How about 8" floppies?, How about Zip, Bernoulli drives, Heck it is getting hard to find 3.5" drives.If your archival horizon is longer than about 10 years, you're looking at the wrong life cycle planning.
Do you think whatever flavor of SAS we have today is going to exist in 15 years?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30863142</id>
	<title>Man</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264153140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wish I was a researcher working on improving areola density.  I didn't think IBM had those kinds of jobs.  It certainly never came up at the job fair they were at when I was in college.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wish I was a researcher working on improving areola density .
I did n't think IBM had those kinds of jobs .
It certainly never came up at the job fair they were at when I was in college .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wish I was a researcher working on improving areola density.
I didn't think IBM had those kinds of jobs.
It certainly never came up at the job fair they were at when I was in college.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30863278</id>
	<title>Lifetime of a tape</title>
	<author>suso</author>
	<datestamp>1264153800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's great, but how long will it hold the data?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's great , but how long will it hold the data ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's great, but how long will it hold the data?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30866684</id>
	<title>Re:Stupid Units</title>
	<author>StuartHankins</author>
	<datestamp>1264178280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm sorry, I'm just not getting it. Can I get a car analogy please?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sorry , I 'm just not getting it .
Can I get a car analogy please ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sorry, I'm just not getting it.
Can I get a car analogy please?</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30863858</id>
	<title>Amanda Seyfried/Julianne Moore Sex Scene?  Check!</title>
	<author>Impy the Impiuos Imp</author>
	<datestamp>1264156740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; IBM Sets Areal Density Record for Magnetic Tape</p><p>From the trailer for Chloe, it looks like Amanda Seyfried has a very low areolar density, due to it's large size.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; IBM Sets Areal Density Record for Magnetic TapeFrom the trailer for Chloe , it looks like Amanda Seyfried has a very low areolar density , due to it 's large size .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; IBM Sets Areal Density Record for Magnetic TapeFrom the trailer for Chloe, it looks like Amanda Seyfried has a very low areolar density, due to it's large size.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30863312</id>
	<title>Re:What about write speed?</title>
	<author>Jason daHaus</author>
	<datestamp>1264153980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>In most cases whether it took a week to write would be a non-issue. You'd likely be doing a server to server backup on a daily basis and be writing to tape once a week anyway (ie, continuously).</htmltext>
<tokenext>In most cases whether it took a week to write would be a non-issue .
You 'd likely be doing a server to server backup on a daily basis and be writing to tape once a week anyway ( ie , continuously ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In most cases whether it took a week to write would be a non-issue.
You'd likely be doing a server to server backup on a daily basis and be writing to tape once a week anyway (ie, continuously).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30863394</id>
	<title>How long does it last?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264154280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's always sobering to watch shows like Population Zero etc. and realize that our civ. may be completely undiscoverable come 2k years from now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's always sobering to watch shows like Population Zero etc .
and realize that our civ .
may be completely undiscoverable come 2k years from now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's always sobering to watch shows like Population Zero etc.
and realize that our civ.
may be completely undiscoverable come 2k years from now.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30868112</id>
	<title>Re:Tape is not the best solution</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264241640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Then again, Linus is an asshole. There, I said it.<br>I saw a couple of his speeches, and he usually personally insults his listeners as idiots. (E.g. when he talked about git, and some of them used SVN in their businesses.)<br>People just laugh in a confused/embarassed way, because they either don&rsquo;t dare telling him not to insult them, because that would make the others go &ldquo;How dare you insult the great Linus!&rdquo;, despite being insulted by him, just seconds earlier. Or because they can&rsquo;t believe it, and don&rsquo;t know how to process it.</p><p>On mailing lists he&rsquo;s no better.<br>He might have been the original creator of Linux, and he gets my respect for that.<br>But that does not mean, he can act like a dick.</p><p>I just hope, he dares to do it when I&rsquo;m in the audience. Because I dare to say it right in his face, in front of everybody.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Then again , Linus is an asshole .
There , I said it.I saw a couple of his speeches , and he usually personally insults his listeners as idiots .
( E.g. when he talked about git , and some of them used SVN in their businesses .
) People just laugh in a confused/embarassed way , because they either don    t dare telling him not to insult them , because that would make the others go    How dare you insult the great Linus !    , despite being insulted by him , just seconds earlier .
Or because they can    t believe it , and don    t know how to process it.On mailing lists he    s no better.He might have been the original creator of Linux , and he gets my respect for that.But that does not mean , he can act like a dick.I just hope , he dares to do it when I    m in the audience .
Because I dare to say it right in his face , in front of everybody .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Then again, Linus is an asshole.
There, I said it.I saw a couple of his speeches, and he usually personally insults his listeners as idiots.
(E.g. when he talked about git, and some of them used SVN in their businesses.
)People just laugh in a confused/embarassed way, because they either don’t dare telling him not to insult them, because that would make the others go “How dare you insult the great Linus!”, despite being insulted by him, just seconds earlier.
Or because they can’t believe it, and don’t know how to process it.On mailing lists he’s no better.He might have been the original creator of Linux, and he gets my respect for that.But that does not mean, he can act like a dick.I just hope, he dares to do it when I’m in the audience.
Because I dare to say it right in his face, in front of everybody.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30864982</id>
	<title>248 Miles of Books</title>
	<author>ISoldat53</author>
	<datestamp>1264163220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Almost enough to hold Robert Jordan's "The Wheel of Time."</htmltext>
<tokenext>Almost enough to hold Robert Jordan 's " The Wheel of Time .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Almost enough to hold Robert Jordan's "The Wheel of Time.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30863592</id>
	<title>Finally</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264155540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Oh boy! Finally a media that can hold my porn collection.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh boy !
Finally a media that can hold my porn collection .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh boy!
Finally a media that can hold my porn collection.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30863260</id>
	<title>Tape delay</title>
	<author>LostCluster</author>
	<datestamp>1264153680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd tell you what the previous record was for backup tape... but it got archived at the end of my last backup and will take a few hours to get back. Sorry, I'll try harder next time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd tell you what the previous record was for backup tape... but it got archived at the end of my last backup and will take a few hours to get back .
Sorry , I 'll try harder next time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd tell you what the previous record was for backup tape... but it got archived at the end of my last backup and will take a few hours to get back.
Sorry, I'll try harder next time.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30863546</id>
	<title>Units</title>
	<author>Arancaytar</author>
	<datestamp>1264155240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"29.5 billion bits per square inch"</p><p>I'm sorry, what?</p><p>Could we have this in libraries of congress per furlong?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" 29.5 billion bits per square inch " I 'm sorry , what ? Could we have this in libraries of congress per furlong ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"29.5 billion bits per square inch"I'm sorry, what?Could we have this in libraries of congress per furlong?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30864336</id>
	<title>Re:Man</title>
	<author>IdleTime</author>
	<datestamp>1264158780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is great news!<br> <br>
Noe I can back up my 3 TB porn collection...</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is great news !
Noe I can back up my 3 TB porn collection.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is great news!
Noe I can back up my 3 TB porn collection...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30863450</id>
	<title>so what...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264154580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>tape still sucks.  higher density just means you lose more faster when you can't read back the headers etc.   You still get the joys of sequential access, of which the only true component is the ability to go get a coffee while the tape drive picks its teeth before actually streaming bits.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>tape still sucks .
higher density just means you lose more faster when you ca n't read back the headers etc .
You still get the joys of sequential access , of which the only true component is the ability to go get a coffee while the tape drive picks its teeth before actually streaming bits .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>tape still sucks.
higher density just means you lose more faster when you can't read back the headers etc.
You still get the joys of sequential access, of which the only true component is the ability to go get a coffee while the tape drive picks its teeth before actually streaming bits.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30863496</id>
	<title>Re:What about write speed?</title>
	<author>VMaN</author>
	<datestamp>1264154880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>35TB in a week? 60MB/sec isn't all that bad.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>35TB in a week ?
60MB/sec is n't all that bad .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>35TB in a week?
60MB/sec isn't all that bad.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30863680</id>
	<title>Re:blu-ray movies on my VHS</title>
	<author>JackSpratts</author>
	<datestamp>1264155900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>1500 blu-rays, sir.</htmltext>
<tokenext>1500 blu-rays , sir .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1500 blu-rays, sir.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30867826</id>
	<title>In european informatics units, that is:</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1264280040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>About 545.09 MB/cm^2.</p><p>Doesn&rsquo;t sound <em>that</em> great now, compared to a hard disk, does it?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>About 545.09 MB/cm ^ 2.Doesn    t sound that great now , compared to a hard disk , does it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>About 545.09 MB/cm^2.Doesn’t sound that great now, compared to a hard disk, does it?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30864228</id>
	<title>Re:In other news...</title>
	<author>timeOday</author>
	<datestamp>1264158360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>for organizations that have large storage requirements you can't get any cheaper than tape</p></div></blockquote><p>

Are you so sure?  Quantum claims that their DLT-V4 tape offers <a href="http://www.quantum.com/products/tapedrives/dlt/dltv4/index.aspx" title="quantum.com">the lowest media cost/GB in its class at just $0.12</a> [quantum.com].  That's <i>not</i> including the drive, and they are <i>not</i> free.  So it's $120/TB just for the media, which is about 30\% more than a hard drive.  And 1 TB isn't one tape, it's half a dozen of them, so that's fun.
</p><p>
Now, you could argue it's not fair to consumer hard drives to "enterprise" tape, but that's kind of the point.  Tape is a niche product, so it might be a bad deal simply because the economies of scale aren't as good.

</p><p>
Reliability?  Hard to say.  Tape and HDDs are both magnetic media, but HDD platters are sealed off from the environment with a micron-level filter.  Tapes aren't sealed as well.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>for organizations that have large storage requirements you ca n't get any cheaper than tape Are you so sure ?
Quantum claims that their DLT-V4 tape offers the lowest media cost/GB in its class at just $ 0.12 [ quantum.com ] .
That 's not including the drive , and they are not free .
So it 's $ 120/TB just for the media , which is about 30 \ % more than a hard drive .
And 1 TB is n't one tape , it 's half a dozen of them , so that 's fun .
Now , you could argue it 's not fair to consumer hard drives to " enterprise " tape , but that 's kind of the point .
Tape is a niche product , so it might be a bad deal simply because the economies of scale are n't as good .
Reliability ? Hard to say .
Tape and HDDs are both magnetic media , but HDD platters are sealed off from the environment with a micron-level filter .
Tapes are n't sealed as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>for organizations that have large storage requirements you can't get any cheaper than tape

Are you so sure?
Quantum claims that their DLT-V4 tape offers the lowest media cost/GB in its class at just $0.12 [quantum.com].
That's not including the drive, and they are not free.
So it's $120/TB just for the media, which is about 30\% more than a hard drive.
And 1 TB isn't one tape, it's half a dozen of them, so that's fun.
Now, you could argue it's not fair to consumer hard drives to "enterprise" tape, but that's kind of the point.
Tape is a niche product, so it might be a bad deal simply because the economies of scale aren't as good.
Reliability?  Hard to say.
Tape and HDDs are both magnetic media, but HDD platters are sealed off from the environment with a micron-level filter.
Tapes aren't sealed as well.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30863992</id>
	<title>Re:AWESOME!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264157280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Oh yeah.  Assuming 400 MB per album (FLAC), a 35 TB tape will hold 87,500 of them.  So, a <i>million</i> tracks, give or take.  That should be fun to hunt through with nothing but FF and RW buttons!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh yeah .
Assuming 400 MB per album ( FLAC ) , a 35 TB tape will hold 87,500 of them .
So , a million tracks , give or take .
That should be fun to hunt through with nothing but FF and RW buttons !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh yeah.
Assuming 400 MB per album (FLAC), a 35 TB tape will hold 87,500 of them.
So, a million tracks, give or take.
That should be fun to hunt through with nothing but FF and RW buttons!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30864168</id>
	<title>Re:Units</title>
	<author>KlomDark</author>
	<datestamp>1264158060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Edward's at the library again?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Edward 's at the library again ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Edward's at the library again?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30870034</id>
	<title>399 km of bookshelves?</title>
	<author>MathiasRav</author>
	<datestamp>1264266060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://xkcd.com/691/" title="xkcd.com" rel="nofollow">Oblig xkcd 691</a> [xkcd.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Oblig xkcd 691 [ xkcd.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oblig xkcd 691 [xkcd.com]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30863324</id>
	<title>Oh boy!</title>
	<author>RevWaldo</author>
	<datestamp>1264153980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Now governments and big corporations can misplace even *more* data! <br> <br>"The Library of Congress burned down? No worries chief! I got the whole thing backed up on the tape right here in my desk. (opens and closes drawers) Right here.. in.. my... oh shizzle."</htmltext>
<tokenext>Now governments and big corporations can misplace even * more * data !
" The Library of Congress burned down ?
No worries chief !
I got the whole thing backed up on the tape right here in my desk .
( opens and closes drawers ) Right here.. in.. my... oh shizzle .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now governments and big corporations can misplace even *more* data!
"The Library of Congress burned down?
No worries chief!
I got the whole thing backed up on the tape right here in my desk.
(opens and closes drawers) Right here.. in.. my... oh shizzle.
"</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30863530</id>
	<title>Re:What about write speed?</title>
	<author>newcastlejon</author>
	<datestamp>1264155120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's been a while since I did one so I'd better ask: do people still do full backups overnight?</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's been a while since I did one so I 'd better ask : do people still do full backups overnight ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's been a while since I did one so I'd better ask: do people still do full backups overnight?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30864120</id>
	<title>Re:AWESOME!</title>
	<author>xOneca</author>
	<datestamp>1264157880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yeah! But reading/writting speeds?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah !
But reading/writting speeds ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah!
But reading/writting speeds?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30863248</id>
	<title>Re:What about write speed?</title>
	<author>Ukab the Great</author>
	<datestamp>1264153680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Who cares about a week to read it? I'd be giddy with power if I could destroy the entire Library of Congress in 30 seconds with a bulk eraser.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Who cares about a week to read it ?
I 'd be giddy with power if I could destroy the entire Library of Congress in 30 seconds with a bulk eraser .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who cares about a week to read it?
I'd be giddy with power if I could destroy the entire Library of Congress in 30 seconds with a bulk eraser.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30863170</id>
	<title>In other news...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264153260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... IBM researchers have set a record for compressing the most records of cattle onto clay tablets using their proprietary new cuneiform.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... IBM researchers have set a record for compressing the most records of cattle onto clay tablets using their proprietary new cuneiform .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... IBM researchers have set a record for compressing the most records of cattle onto clay tablets using their proprietary new cuneiform.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30863224</id>
	<title>Is it a VHS or Betamax?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264153500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>hmmm... I wonder, I could backup all my server's and desktop's with full uncompressed backup every month on a single cardrige</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>hmmm... I wonder , I could backup all my server 's and desktop 's with full uncompressed backup every month on a single cardrige</tokentext>
<sentencetext>hmmm... I wonder, I could backup all my server's and desktop's with full uncompressed backup every month on a single cardrige</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30863184</id>
	<title>You forgot to copy the stars (footnotes):</title>
	<author>Seth Kriticos</author>
	<datestamp>1264153320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>*The demonstration was performed at product-level tape speeds (2 meters per second) and achieved error rates that are correctable using standard error-correction techniques to meet IBM's performance specification for its LTO Generation 4 products.</p><p>**Note that this calculation assumes a roughly 12\% increase in tape length due to the reduced medium thickness.</p><p>***Note that this has been rounded up from 43.75 times</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>* The demonstration was performed at product-level tape speeds ( 2 meters per second ) and achieved error rates that are correctable using standard error-correction techniques to meet IBM 's performance specification for its LTO Generation 4 products .
* * Note that this calculation assumes a roughly 12 \ % increase in tape length due to the reduced medium thickness .
* * * Note that this has been rounded up from 43.75 times</tokentext>
<sentencetext>*The demonstration was performed at product-level tape speeds (2 meters per second) and achieved error rates that are correctable using standard error-correction techniques to meet IBM's performance specification for its LTO Generation 4 products.
**Note that this calculation assumes a roughly 12\% increase in tape length due to the reduced medium thickness.
***Note that this has been rounded up from 43.75 times</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30863346</id>
	<title>Re:What about write speed?</title>
	<author>Pinky's Brain</author>
	<datestamp>1264154040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Depends on the number of parallel read/write heads, wasn't in the article<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... a quick google shows present tapes take between 25-50 passes to fill a tape at ~7 minutes per pass, god that's slow.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Depends on the number of parallel read/write heads , was n't in the article ... a quick google shows present tapes take between 25-50 passes to fill a tape at ~ 7 minutes per pass , god that 's slow .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Depends on the number of parallel read/write heads, wasn't in the article ... a quick google shows present tapes take between 25-50 passes to fill a tape at ~7 minutes per pass, god that's slow.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30864366</id>
	<title>Re:Man</title>
	<author>Smooth and Shiny</author>
	<datestamp>1264158900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why? Do you think you need denser areolas?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why ?
Do you think you need denser areolas ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why?
Do you think you need denser areolas?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30863322</id>
	<title>SI Units</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264153980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>For those of you who are confused by these scary looking Terrorbytes, these tapes would hold about a third of a Library of Congress each.</htmltext>
<tokenext>For those of you who are confused by these scary looking Terrorbytes , these tapes would hold about a third of a Library of Congress each .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For those of you who are confused by these scary looking Terrorbytes, these tapes would hold about a third of a Library of Congress each.</sentencetext>
</comment>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30865160</id>
	<title>Tape is not the best solution</title>
	<author>Zugok</author>
	<datestamp>1264164480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As Linus has said before 'Only wimps use tape backup: real men just upload their important stuff on ftp, and let the rest of the world mirror it'</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As Linus has said before 'Only wimps use tape backup : real men just upload their important stuff on ftp , and let the rest of the world mirror it'</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As Linus has said before 'Only wimps use tape backup: real men just upload their important stuff on ftp, and let the rest of the world mirror it'</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30863542</id>
	<title>blu-ray movies on my VHS</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264155240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>finally a magnetic tape that will allow me to record blu-ray movies on my VHS cassettes with full 1080p.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>finally a magnetic tape that will allow me to record blu-ray movies on my VHS cassettes with full 1080p .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>finally a magnetic tape that will allow me to record blu-ray movies on my VHS cassettes with full 1080p.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30864796</id>
	<title>Re:What about write speed?</title>
	<author>phantomcircuit</author>
	<datestamp>1264161600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Given that 35 TB/week is about 60 MB/second... that's still pretty useful.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Given that 35 TB/week is about 60 MB/second... that 's still pretty useful .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Given that 35 TB/week is about 60 MB/second... that's still pretty useful.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30864502</id>
	<title>LoC</title>
	<author>Dilligent</author>
	<datestamp>1264159680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>huh? Weird metrics... Why not just tell us it's about 3.5 LoC ?</htmltext>
<tokenext>huh ?
Weird metrics... Why not just tell us it 's about 3.5 LoC ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>huh?
Weird metrics... Why not just tell us it's about 3.5 LoC ?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_187243.30863376</id>
	<title>Re:Man</title>
	<author>whatajoke</author>
	<datestamp>1264154160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://qdb.us/262095" title="qdb.us" rel="nofollow">Well....</a> [qdb.us], it depends on how thinly we spread <a href="http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=37500000+++100000000++2.25+bytes" title="wolframalpha.com" rel="nofollow">8.438 petabytes</a> [wolframalpha.com].</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well.... [ qdb.us ] , it depends on how thinly we spread 8.438 petabytes [ wolframalpha.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well.... [qdb.us], it depends on how thinly we spread 8.438 petabytes [wolframalpha.com].</sentencetext>
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