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	<title>Prolonged Gaming Blamed For Rickets Rise</title>
	<author>samzenpus</author>
	<datestamp>1264150020000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>superapecommando writes <i>"Too many hours spent <a href="http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming/prolonged-gaming-blamed-for-rickets-rise-665377?src=rss&amp;attr=all">playing videogames indoors is contributing to a rise in rickets</a>, according to a new study by doctors. Professor Simon Pearce and Dr Tim Cheetham of Newcastle University have written a paper in the British Medical Journal which warns of the rickets uptake &ndash; a disease which sufferers get when deficient in Vitamin D. The study boils down to the fact that as more people play videogames indoors they don't get enough sunlight and this has meant the hospitals are now having to combat a disease that was last in the papers around the time Queen Victoria was on the throne."</i> At least the kids are eating enough snacks with iodized salt that we don't have to worry about goiters.</htmltext>
<tokenext>superapecommando writes " Too many hours spent playing videogames indoors is contributing to a rise in rickets , according to a new study by doctors .
Professor Simon Pearce and Dr Tim Cheetham of Newcastle University have written a paper in the British Medical Journal which warns of the rickets uptake    a disease which sufferers get when deficient in Vitamin D. The study boils down to the fact that as more people play videogames indoors they do n't get enough sunlight and this has meant the hospitals are now having to combat a disease that was last in the papers around the time Queen Victoria was on the throne .
" At least the kids are eating enough snacks with iodized salt that we do n't have to worry about goiters .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>superapecommando writes "Too many hours spent playing videogames indoors is contributing to a rise in rickets, according to a new study by doctors.
Professor Simon Pearce and Dr Tim Cheetham of Newcastle University have written a paper in the British Medical Journal which warns of the rickets uptake – a disease which sufferers get when deficient in Vitamin D. The study boils down to the fact that as more people play videogames indoors they don't get enough sunlight and this has meant the hospitals are now having to combat a disease that was last in the papers around the time Queen Victoria was on the throne.
" At least the kids are eating enough snacks with iodized salt that we don't have to worry about goiters.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Sunlight Explanation, via Wikipedia</title>
	<author>bearflash</author>
	<datestamp>1264155180000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>Vitamin D is a prohormone, meaning that it has no hormone activity itself, but is converted to the active hormone 1,25-D through a tightly regulated synthesis mechanism. Production of vitamin D in nature always appears to require the presence of some UV light; even vitamin D in foodstuffs is ultimately derived from organisms, from mushrooms to animals, which are not able to synthesize it except through the action of sunlight at some point in the synthetic chain. For example, fish contain vitamin D only because they ultimately exist on calories from ocean algae which synthesize vitamin D in shallow waters from the action of solar UV.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Vitamin D is a prohormone , meaning that it has no hormone activity itself , but is converted to the active hormone 1,25-D through a tightly regulated synthesis mechanism .
Production of vitamin D in nature always appears to require the presence of some UV light ; even vitamin D in foodstuffs is ultimately derived from organisms , from mushrooms to animals , which are not able to synthesize it except through the action of sunlight at some point in the synthetic chain .
For example , fish contain vitamin D only because they ultimately exist on calories from ocean algae which synthesize vitamin D in shallow waters from the action of solar UV .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Vitamin D is a prohormone, meaning that it has no hormone activity itself, but is converted to the active hormone 1,25-D through a tightly regulated synthesis mechanism.
Production of vitamin D in nature always appears to require the presence of some UV light; even vitamin D in foodstuffs is ultimately derived from organisms, from mushrooms to animals, which are not able to synthesize it except through the action of sunlight at some point in the synthetic chain.
For example, fish contain vitamin D only because they ultimately exist on calories from ocean algae which synthesize vitamin D in shallow waters from the action of solar UV.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Supplement with Vitamin D3 softgels, 5000IU/day</title>
	<author>brian0918</author>
	<datestamp>1264155780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
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	<htmltext>A healthy level of vitamin D in the blood should be around 60 ng/mL. In order to reach that, you'll have to supplement with the animal version of vitamin D, which is the <b>liquid softgel Vitamin D3</b>, and <i>not</i> the hard tablet D2 that's made from plant matter. If it just says "Vitamin D", chances are it's D2, and you should avoid that.
<br> <br>
Take about 4,000 to 8,000 IU per day and you're golden. On top of that, your immune system will be able to fight off the common colds that everyone else gets each year due to D deficiency.
<br> <br>
And don't bother trying to supplement with sun. Spending our lives in the shade has dramatically reduced our ability to convert sunlight into vitamin D.
<br> <br>
Sources: <a href="http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/getting-vitamin-d-right.html" title="blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">this cardiologist</a> [blogspot.com] and <a href="http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2008/10/vitamin-d-its-not-just-another-vitamin.html" title="blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">this neurobiologist</a> [blogspot.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>A healthy level of vitamin D in the blood should be around 60 ng/mL .
In order to reach that , you 'll have to supplement with the animal version of vitamin D , which is the liquid softgel Vitamin D3 , and not the hard tablet D2 that 's made from plant matter .
If it just says " Vitamin D " , chances are it 's D2 , and you should avoid that .
Take about 4,000 to 8,000 IU per day and you 're golden .
On top of that , your immune system will be able to fight off the common colds that everyone else gets each year due to D deficiency .
And do n't bother trying to supplement with sun .
Spending our lives in the shade has dramatically reduced our ability to convert sunlight into vitamin D . Sources : this cardiologist [ blogspot.com ] and this neurobiologist [ blogspot.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A healthy level of vitamin D in the blood should be around 60 ng/mL.
In order to reach that, you'll have to supplement with the animal version of vitamin D, which is the liquid softgel Vitamin D3, and not the hard tablet D2 that's made from plant matter.
If it just says "Vitamin D", chances are it's D2, and you should avoid that.
Take about 4,000 to 8,000 IU per day and you're golden.
On top of that, your immune system will be able to fight off the common colds that everyone else gets each year due to D deficiency.
And don't bother trying to supplement with sun.
Spending our lives in the shade has dramatically reduced our ability to convert sunlight into vitamin D.
 
Sources: this cardiologist [blogspot.com] and this neurobiologist [blogspot.com]</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Obvious Solution</title>
	<author>rev\_sanchez</author>
	<datestamp>1264156680000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>Finally, there's a reason to play Super Mario Sunshine.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Finally , there 's a reason to play Super Mario Sunshine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Finally, there's a reason to play Super Mario Sunshine.</sentencetext>
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	<title>I hear similar thing happens in England</title>
	<author>fermion</author>
	<datestamp>1264156380000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>This is quite credible.  I recall reading a situation in Britain where some first generation immigrants did not understand that in certain parts of England the sun was not as bright as in other places.  When the mothers took the babies out for walks, everyone was covered and skin as not exposed to the sun.  It was reported that issues related with vitamin D deficiencies were common in mothers and some babies.
<p>
I wonder if kids get any sun.  I see my neighbors inside all the time, they even have an attached garage.  Schools are limited recess to practice for federally mandated testing.  It is little wonder that so many of the kids are little weakling(even compared to my geeks peer group).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is quite credible .
I recall reading a situation in Britain where some first generation immigrants did not understand that in certain parts of England the sun was not as bright as in other places .
When the mothers took the babies out for walks , everyone was covered and skin as not exposed to the sun .
It was reported that issues related with vitamin D deficiencies were common in mothers and some babies .
I wonder if kids get any sun .
I see my neighbors inside all the time , they even have an attached garage .
Schools are limited recess to practice for federally mandated testing .
It is little wonder that so many of the kids are little weakling ( even compared to my geeks peer group ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is quite credible.
I recall reading a situation in Britain where some first generation immigrants did not understand that in certain parts of England the sun was not as bright as in other places.
When the mothers took the babies out for walks, everyone was covered and skin as not exposed to the sun.
It was reported that issues related with vitamin D deficiencies were common in mothers and some babies.
I wonder if kids get any sun.
I see my neighbors inside all the time, they even have an attached garage.
Schools are limited recess to practice for federally mandated testing.
It is little wonder that so many of the kids are little weakling(even compared to my geeks peer group).</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Milk?</title>
	<author>Slammer64</author>
	<datestamp>1264160820000</datestamp>
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	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Obligatory Commercial Reference: Got Milk?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Obligatory Commercial Reference : Got Milk ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Obligatory Commercial Reference: Got Milk?</sentencetext>
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	<title>yuo 7ail 1t</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264156740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>happiness another</htmltext>
<tokenext>happiness another</tokentext>
<sentencetext>happiness another</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Milk?</title>
	<author>Monkeedude1212</author>
	<datestamp>1264154580000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Woops I posted this to the one above.</p><p>However, just having the D in your system doesn't get it to work, something in the sunlight "activates" it.</p><p>As for the guy who mentioned Orange Juice and Tropicana, most of it is Vitamin C, but there are Vitamin D enriched juices yes. Same rule applies though, it needs sunlight.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Woops I posted this to the one above.However , just having the D in your system does n't get it to work , something in the sunlight " activates " it.As for the guy who mentioned Orange Juice and Tropicana , most of it is Vitamin C , but there are Vitamin D enriched juices yes .
Same rule applies though , it needs sunlight .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Woops I posted this to the one above.However, just having the D in your system doesn't get it to work, something in the sunlight "activates" it.As for the guy who mentioned Orange Juice and Tropicana, most of it is Vitamin C, but there are Vitamin D enriched juices yes.
Same rule applies though, it needs sunlight.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Vitamin D and the irony of patents and copyrights</title>
	<author>Paul Fernhout</author>
	<datestamp>1264158240000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>It is possible that some of this vitamin D deficiency disaster could have been prevented with more information sharing. As I wrote here:<br>
  <a href="http://listcultures.org/pipermail/p2presearch\_listcultures.org/2009-October/005081.html" title="listcultures.org">http://listcultures.org/pipermail/p2presearch\_listcultures.org/2009-October/005081.html</a> [listcultures.org] <br>"""<br>Ryan pointed out to me the University of Wisconsin has patents related to Vitamin D. So, were people perhaps denied Vitamin D as an example of a public institution being funded by public dollars privatizing research results? Same as I can't easily see that study above on the web.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...<br>
  I don't know for sure, but I'd suspect most of this research is funded at least in part by public dollars.<br>
  I'm assuming, because the University of Wisconsin says they make a lot of money still from Vitamin D, that lawsuits might start flying if someone else starts using Vitamin D therapies without a license for various illnesses?<br>
  Is it possible this is a case of the patent system linked to profit-oriented non-profits damaging the health of billions of people globally? Related:<br> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayh-Dole\_Act" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayh-Dole\_Act</a> [wikipedia.org] <br> <a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/2000/03/press.htm" title="theatlantic.com">http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/2000/03/press.htm</a> [theatlantic.com] <br> <a href="http://www.pdfernhout.net/open-letter-to-grantmakers-and-donors-on-copyright-policy.html" title="pdfernhout.net">http://www.pdfernhout.net/open-letter-to-grantmakers-and-donors-on-copyright-policy.html</a> [pdfernhout.net] <br>
  If the global health care costs of treating all the diseases that have been suggested related to Vitamin D deficiency each year in whole or in part were totaled up, from flu through cancer to schizophrenia, it might total in the trillions of dollars per year in costs.<br>
  If people were somehow getting less Vitamin D because of the societal consequences of patents (including competitivenesses among researchers, but also making techniques to costly to use or delaying their widespread adoption), it is possible the the consequences of proprietary knowledge from just this one issue might have cost our global society many trillions of dollars and untold personal suffering. Enough money to fund endless researchers making more free knowledge. Meanwhile, the University of Wisconsin got a little bit bigger.<br>
  Obviously, I'm all for the Vitamin D researchers at the University Wisconsin as well as other universities getting all the resources they need to do good work. But, there may be a huge problem here with public funding strategies for research. The proprietary approach to research knowledge may literally have been costing trillions of dollars a year (in current dollars) for decades taken across the globe. For the past fifty years, at two trillion a  year in excess medical costs, this might add up to US$100 trillion in excess medical costs due to such medical knowledge being proprietary and researchers not cooperating more.<br>
  Of course, then the huge public health bills are used to justify *increasing* the proprietary aspects of medical knowledge to create more  artificial scarcity -- which is a tremendous and sad irony.<br>"""</p><p>Here is one study of the cost to Western Europe of vitamin D deficiency, and it does not even included costs for excess mental illness:<br>"Estimated benefit of increased vitamin D status in reducing the economic burden of disease in western Europe."<br> <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19268496" title="nih.gov">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19268496</a> [nih.gov] <br>"""<br>Vitamin D has important benefits in reducing the risk of many conditions and diseases. Those diseases for which the benefits are well supported and that have large economic effects include many types of cancer, cardiovascular diseases, diabetes mellitus, several bacterial and viral infections, and autoimmune diseases such as multiple sclerosis. Europeans generally have low serum 25-hydroxyvit</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It is possible that some of this vitamin D deficiency disaster could have been prevented with more information sharing .
As I wrote here : http : //listcultures.org/pipermail/p2presearch \ _listcultures.org/2009-October/005081.html [ listcultures.org ] " " " Ryan pointed out to me the University of Wisconsin has patents related to Vitamin D. So , were people perhaps denied Vitamin D as an example of a public institution being funded by public dollars privatizing research results ?
Same as I ca n't easily see that study above on the web .
.. . I do n't know for sure , but I 'd suspect most of this research is funded at least in part by public dollars .
I 'm assuming , because the University of Wisconsin says they make a lot of money still from Vitamin D , that lawsuits might start flying if someone else starts using Vitamin D therapies without a license for various illnesses ?
Is it possible this is a case of the patent system linked to profit-oriented non-profits damaging the health of billions of people globally ?
Related : http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayh-Dole \ _Act [ wikipedia.org ] http : //www.theatlantic.com/issues/2000/03/press.htm [ theatlantic.com ] http : //www.pdfernhout.net/open-letter-to-grantmakers-and-donors-on-copyright-policy.html [ pdfernhout.net ] If the global health care costs of treating all the diseases that have been suggested related to Vitamin D deficiency each year in whole or in part were totaled up , from flu through cancer to schizophrenia , it might total in the trillions of dollars per year in costs .
If people were somehow getting less Vitamin D because of the societal consequences of patents ( including competitivenesses among researchers , but also making techniques to costly to use or delaying their widespread adoption ) , it is possible the the consequences of proprietary knowledge from just this one issue might have cost our global society many trillions of dollars and untold personal suffering .
Enough money to fund endless researchers making more free knowledge .
Meanwhile , the University of Wisconsin got a little bit bigger .
Obviously , I 'm all for the Vitamin D researchers at the University Wisconsin as well as other universities getting all the resources they need to do good work .
But , there may be a huge problem here with public funding strategies for research .
The proprietary approach to research knowledge may literally have been costing trillions of dollars a year ( in current dollars ) for decades taken across the globe .
For the past fifty years , at two trillion a year in excess medical costs , this might add up to US $ 100 trillion in excess medical costs due to such medical knowledge being proprietary and researchers not cooperating more .
Of course , then the huge public health bills are used to justify * increasing * the proprietary aspects of medical knowledge to create more artificial scarcity -- which is a tremendous and sad irony .
" " " Here is one study of the cost to Western Europe of vitamin D deficiency , and it does not even included costs for excess mental illness : " Estimated benefit of increased vitamin D status in reducing the economic burden of disease in western Europe .
" http : //www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19268496 [ nih.gov ] " " " Vitamin D has important benefits in reducing the risk of many conditions and diseases .
Those diseases for which the benefits are well supported and that have large economic effects include many types of cancer , cardiovascular diseases , diabetes mellitus , several bacterial and viral infections , and autoimmune diseases such as multiple sclerosis .
Europeans generally have low serum 25-hydroxyvit</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is possible that some of this vitamin D deficiency disaster could have been prevented with more information sharing.
As I wrote here:
  http://listcultures.org/pipermail/p2presearch\_listcultures.org/2009-October/005081.html [listcultures.org] """Ryan pointed out to me the University of Wisconsin has patents related to Vitamin D. So, were people perhaps denied Vitamin D as an example of a public institution being funded by public dollars privatizing research results?
Same as I can't easily see that study above on the web.
...
  I don't know for sure, but I'd suspect most of this research is funded at least in part by public dollars.
I'm assuming, because the University of Wisconsin says they make a lot of money still from Vitamin D, that lawsuits might start flying if someone else starts using Vitamin D therapies without a license for various illnesses?
Is it possible this is a case of the patent system linked to profit-oriented non-profits damaging the health of billions of people globally?
Related: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayh-Dole\_Act [wikipedia.org]  http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/2000/03/press.htm [theatlantic.com]  http://www.pdfernhout.net/open-letter-to-grantmakers-and-donors-on-copyright-policy.html [pdfernhout.net] 
  If the global health care costs of treating all the diseases that have been suggested related to Vitamin D deficiency each year in whole or in part were totaled up, from flu through cancer to schizophrenia, it might total in the trillions of dollars per year in costs.
If people were somehow getting less Vitamin D because of the societal consequences of patents (including competitivenesses among researchers, but also making techniques to costly to use or delaying their widespread adoption), it is possible the the consequences of proprietary knowledge from just this one issue might have cost our global society many trillions of dollars and untold personal suffering.
Enough money to fund endless researchers making more free knowledge.
Meanwhile, the University of Wisconsin got a little bit bigger.
Obviously, I'm all for the Vitamin D researchers at the University Wisconsin as well as other universities getting all the resources they need to do good work.
But, there may be a huge problem here with public funding strategies for research.
The proprietary approach to research knowledge may literally have been costing trillions of dollars a year (in current dollars) for decades taken across the globe.
For the past fifty years, at two trillion a  year in excess medical costs, this might add up to US$100 trillion in excess medical costs due to such medical knowledge being proprietary and researchers not cooperating more.
Of course, then the huge public health bills are used to justify *increasing* the proprietary aspects of medical knowledge to create more  artificial scarcity -- which is a tremendous and sad irony.
"""Here is one study of the cost to Western Europe of vitamin D deficiency, and it does not even included costs for excess mental illness:"Estimated benefit of increased vitamin D status in reducing the economic burden of disease in western Europe.
" http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19268496 [nih.gov] """Vitamin D has important benefits in reducing the risk of many conditions and diseases.
Those diseases for which the benefits are well supported and that have large economic effects include many types of cancer, cardiovascular diseases, diabetes mellitus, several bacterial and viral infections, and autoimmune diseases such as multiple sclerosis.
Europeans generally have low serum 25-hydroxyvit</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Grain of salt...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264170660000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>The article in question appears to be http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/extract/340/jan11\_1/b5664 (you need a subscription to view the full text).</p><p>The full text makes no mention of TV or video games of any kind. The closest it comes is a list of risk factors which includes "Lack of sunlight exposure or atmospheric pollution". In fact the paper seems to reinforce that the problem lies in diet and excessive covering of the skin when kids do go outside.</p><p>It seems the quote in TFA is the researcher's personal opinion of the cause, rather than anything scientific.</p></div>
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<tokenext>The article in question appears to be http : //www.bmj.com/cgi/content/extract/340/jan11 \ _1/b5664 ( you need a subscription to view the full text ) .The full text makes no mention of TV or video games of any kind .
The closest it comes is a list of risk factors which includes " Lack of sunlight exposure or atmospheric pollution " .
In fact the paper seems to reinforce that the problem lies in diet and excessive covering of the skin when kids do go outside.It seems the quote in TFA is the researcher 's personal opinion of the cause , rather than anything scientific .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The article in question appears to be http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/extract/340/jan11\_1/b5664 (you need a subscription to view the full text).The full text makes no mention of TV or video games of any kind.
The closest it comes is a list of risk factors which includes "Lack of sunlight exposure or atmospheric pollution".
In fact the paper seems to reinforce that the problem lies in diet and excessive covering of the skin when kids do go outside.It seems the quote in TFA is the researcher's personal opinion of the cause, rather than anything scientific.
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	<title>Re:Obvious Solution</title>
	<author>AMDuser</author>
	<datestamp>1264176840000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>Kids can take out there PSPs and Gameboys outside in the sun or the parents could setup a Wii Game station outside in the back yard if they have a back yard, Wii Console in a enclosure and a Old CRT TV with the top covered.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Kids can take out there PSPs and Gameboys outside in the sun or the parents could setup a Wii Game station outside in the back yard if they have a back yard , Wii Console in a enclosure and a Old CRT TV with the top covered .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Kids can take out there PSPs and Gameboys outside in the sun or the parents could setup a Wii Game station outside in the back yard if they have a back yard, Wii Console in a enclosure and a Old CRT TV with the top covered.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Web calculator</title>
	<author>Khashishi</author>
	<datestamp>1264158600000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>There's a very nice calculator for how much sunlight you need. You might find that 30 minutes sorely underestimates your needs.</p><p>Look for fastrt, by Ola Engelsen. There seems to be multiple versions, and I'm not sure which is the latest. Some leave out Skin Type, which an important factor, but here's one with it in.<br><a href="http://nadir.nilu.no/~olaeng/fastrt/VitD-ez\_quartMED.html" title="nadir.nilu.no">http://nadir.nilu.no/~olaeng/fastrt/VitD-ez\_quartMED.html</a> [nadir.nilu.no]</p><p>here's a more detailed version<br><a href="http://nadir.nilu.no/~olaeng/fastrt/VitD\_quartMEDandMED.html" title="nadir.nilu.no">http://nadir.nilu.no/~olaeng/fastrt/VitD\_quartMEDandMED.html</a> [nadir.nilu.no]</p><p>There is also an associated paper, but I'm not sure if this is the latest version<br><a href="http://www.nilu.no/index.cfm?ac=publications&amp;folder\_id=4309&amp;publication\_id=16084&amp;view=rep&amp;lan\_id=3" title="www.nilu.no">http://www.nilu.no/index.cfm?ac=publications&amp;folder\_id=4309&amp;publication\_id=16084&amp;view=rep&amp;lan\_id=3</a> [www.nilu.no]<br>or maybe this<br><a href="http://www.nilu.no/index.cfm?ac=publications&amp;folder\_id=4309&amp;publication\_id=9024&amp;view=rep" title="www.nilu.no">http://www.nilu.no/index.cfm?ac=publications&amp;folder\_id=4309&amp;publication\_id=9024&amp;view=rep</a> [www.nilu.no]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's a very nice calculator for how much sunlight you need .
You might find that 30 minutes sorely underestimates your needs.Look for fastrt , by Ola Engelsen .
There seems to be multiple versions , and I 'm not sure which is the latest .
Some leave out Skin Type , which an important factor , but here 's one with it in.http : //nadir.nilu.no/ ~ olaeng/fastrt/VitD-ez \ _quartMED.html [ nadir.nilu.no ] here 's a more detailed versionhttp : //nadir.nilu.no/ ~ olaeng/fastrt/VitD \ _quartMEDandMED.html [ nadir.nilu.no ] There is also an associated paper , but I 'm not sure if this is the latest versionhttp : //www.nilu.no/index.cfm ? ac = publications&amp;folder \ _id = 4309&amp;publication \ _id = 16084&amp;view = rep&amp;lan \ _id = 3 [ www.nilu.no ] or maybe thishttp : //www.nilu.no/index.cfm ? ac = publications&amp;folder \ _id = 4309&amp;publication \ _id = 9024&amp;view = rep [ www.nilu.no ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's a very nice calculator for how much sunlight you need.
You might find that 30 minutes sorely underestimates your needs.Look for fastrt, by Ola Engelsen.
There seems to be multiple versions, and I'm not sure which is the latest.
Some leave out Skin Type, which an important factor, but here's one with it in.http://nadir.nilu.no/~olaeng/fastrt/VitD-ez\_quartMED.html [nadir.nilu.no]here's a more detailed versionhttp://nadir.nilu.no/~olaeng/fastrt/VitD\_quartMEDandMED.html [nadir.nilu.no]There is also an associated paper, but I'm not sure if this is the latest versionhttp://www.nilu.no/index.cfm?ac=publications&amp;folder\_id=4309&amp;publication\_id=16084&amp;view=rep&amp;lan\_id=3 [www.nilu.no]or maybe thishttp://www.nilu.no/index.cfm?ac=publications&amp;folder\_id=4309&amp;publication\_id=9024&amp;view=rep [www.nilu.no]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30864418</id>
	<title>well...</title>
	<author>Shads</author>
	<datestamp>1264159200000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Well that might be something they can actually legitimately blame on gaming instead of all the crap they normally blame on it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well that might be something they can actually legitimately blame on gaming instead of all the crap they normally blame on it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well that might be something they can actually legitimately blame on gaming instead of all the crap they normally blame on it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30863390</id>
	<title>The market responds</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264154220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext>Expect the addition of Vitamin D to popular gamer energy drinks.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Expect the addition of Vitamin D to popular gamer energy drinks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Expect the addition of Vitamin D to popular gamer energy drinks.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30866816</id>
	<title>Re:Milk?</title>
	<author>emt377</author>
	<datestamp>1264179660000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Wouldn't drinking milk resolved the Vitamin D deficiency.</p></div><p>In the case of Rickets in the US and Europe it occurs predominantly among immigrants who have moved there from parts of the world closer to the equator.  See e.g. <a href="http://www.eje-online.org/cgi/content/abstract/EJE-08-0818v1" title="eje-online.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.eje-online.org/cgi/content/abstract/EJE-08-0818v1</a> [eje-online.org] .  They're cold during much of the year so cover up virtually all their skin, have pigmentation that requires more exposure for the same Vitamin D generation, and are frequently lactose intolerant.  Some percentage is due to hereditary metabolic disorders. </p></div>
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<tokenext>Would n't drinking milk resolved the Vitamin D deficiency.In the case of Rickets in the US and Europe it occurs predominantly among immigrants who have moved there from parts of the world closer to the equator .
See e.g .
http : //www.eje-online.org/cgi/content/abstract/EJE-08-0818v1 [ eje-online.org ] .
They 're cold during much of the year so cover up virtually all their skin , have pigmentation that requires more exposure for the same Vitamin D generation , and are frequently lactose intolerant .
Some percentage is due to hereditary metabolic disorders .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wouldn't drinking milk resolved the Vitamin D deficiency.In the case of Rickets in the US and Europe it occurs predominantly among immigrants who have moved there from parts of the world closer to the equator.
See e.g.
http://www.eje-online.org/cgi/content/abstract/EJE-08-0818v1 [eje-online.org] .
They're cold during much of the year so cover up virtually all their skin, have pigmentation that requires more exposure for the same Vitamin D generation, and are frequently lactose intolerant.
Some percentage is due to hereditary metabolic disorders. 
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30863926</id>
	<title>Re:Grain of salt...</title>
	<author>blackraven14250</author>
	<datestamp>1264157040000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Oh, and obligatory: correlation does not imply causation</p></div><p>If playing videogames causes you to be inside and thus not get sunlight, and not getting sunlight causes one to get rickets, then there is a causation here.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Oh , and obligatory : correlation does not imply causationIf playing videogames causes you to be inside and thus not get sunlight , and not getting sunlight causes one to get rickets , then there is a causation here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh, and obligatory: correlation does not imply causationIf playing videogames causes you to be inside and thus not get sunlight, and not getting sunlight causes one to get rickets, then there is a causation here.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30864092</id>
	<title>Vitamin D defiency and schooling too...</title>
	<author>Paul Fernhout</author>
	<datestamp>1264157700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Vitamin D in the human body is produced mostly by the effect of sunlight on the skin, which creates the version called vitamin D3 (which is the best version to supplement with, usually from fish oil in gelcaps).</p><p>Essentially, as people in industrialized countries have been spending more time indoors at home, work, or school, often at computer screens; and as people have been following well-meant advice from dermatologists to stay out of the sun; and as we all drive more instead of walk or bicycle; and as children are less allowed to roam freely outdoors through fears of stranger abductions or whatnot, we have ended up vitamin D deficient as a society. Vitamin D deficiency has been linked with a variety of issues, including cancer, depression, diabetes, obesity, schizophrenia, autism, heart disease, tooth decay, asthma, allergies, osteoporosis, and even influenza. Ironically, vitamin D deficiency may be causing even more skin cancers in office workers, because being vitamin D deficient cripples some of the immune response that prevents cancer cells from getting out of control. Modern window glass has also been "improved" to let through less UV-B rays to prevent carpet fading; so now we have faded people instead.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-(</p><p>Consider that vitamin D deficiency is related to behavioral issues like depression that can manifest themselves in different ways in children. If kids misbehaves in school, they are often denied going outside at recess into the sunshine. If kids misbehave more, they are denied being outside all summer in the sunshine because they have to go to summer school. If they are really bad eventually, then kids get set to juvenile detention and then prison where they may be mostly indoors for years. Sadly, that is a negative spiral of vitamin D deficiency. Homeschoolers at least have the option of being outdoors more and getting more sunshine.</p><p>I wrote some on that connection here:<br>"ADHD or lack of Vitamin D? Albany Free School connection?"<br><a href="http://listcultures.org/pipermail/p2presearch\_listcultures.org/2009-October/005083.html" title="listcultures.org">http://listcultures.org/pipermail/p2presearch\_listcultures.org/2009-October/005083.html</a> [listcultures.org]<br>"I have no doubt such a play-based curriculum is a good thing and better than  compulsory school for most kids. I love learner-directed education, where  public schools would become more like public libraries. But, what if some of the magic with the kids labeled ADHD at the Albany Free  School is that, instead of getting Ritalin, that kids who have been labeled  are allowed to play outdoors in the sunlight a lot? Especially African  American kids in that more northern area of the USA who will struggle more  with getting enough Vitamin D at that lattitude? The Free School has an outdoor courtyard at the school kids can use when they want, and they allow  kids to go to the nearby parks, plus they have some rural lands they go on field trips too."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Vitamin D in the human body is produced mostly by the effect of sunlight on the skin , which creates the version called vitamin D3 ( which is the best version to supplement with , usually from fish oil in gelcaps ) .Essentially , as people in industrialized countries have been spending more time indoors at home , work , or school , often at computer screens ; and as people have been following well-meant advice from dermatologists to stay out of the sun ; and as we all drive more instead of walk or bicycle ; and as children are less allowed to roam freely outdoors through fears of stranger abductions or whatnot , we have ended up vitamin D deficient as a society .
Vitamin D deficiency has been linked with a variety of issues , including cancer , depression , diabetes , obesity , schizophrenia , autism , heart disease , tooth decay , asthma , allergies , osteoporosis , and even influenza .
Ironically , vitamin D deficiency may be causing even more skin cancers in office workers , because being vitamin D deficient cripples some of the immune response that prevents cancer cells from getting out of control .
Modern window glass has also been " improved " to let through less UV-B rays to prevent carpet fading ; so now we have faded people instead .
: - ( Consider that vitamin D deficiency is related to behavioral issues like depression that can manifest themselves in different ways in children .
If kids misbehaves in school , they are often denied going outside at recess into the sunshine .
If kids misbehave more , they are denied being outside all summer in the sunshine because they have to go to summer school .
If they are really bad eventually , then kids get set to juvenile detention and then prison where they may be mostly indoors for years .
Sadly , that is a negative spiral of vitamin D deficiency .
Homeschoolers at least have the option of being outdoors more and getting more sunshine.I wrote some on that connection here : " ADHD or lack of Vitamin D ?
Albany Free School connection ?
" http : //listcultures.org/pipermail/p2presearch \ _listcultures.org/2009-October/005083.html [ listcultures.org ] " I have no doubt such a play-based curriculum is a good thing and better than compulsory school for most kids .
I love learner-directed education , where public schools would become more like public libraries .
But , what if some of the magic with the kids labeled ADHD at the Albany Free School is that , instead of getting Ritalin , that kids who have been labeled are allowed to play outdoors in the sunlight a lot ?
Especially African American kids in that more northern area of the USA who will struggle more with getting enough Vitamin D at that lattitude ?
The Free School has an outdoor courtyard at the school kids can use when they want , and they allow kids to go to the nearby parks , plus they have some rural lands they go on field trips too .
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<sentencetext>Vitamin D in the human body is produced mostly by the effect of sunlight on the skin, which creates the version called vitamin D3 (which is the best version to supplement with, usually from fish oil in gelcaps).Essentially, as people in industrialized countries have been spending more time indoors at home, work, or school, often at computer screens; and as people have been following well-meant advice from dermatologists to stay out of the sun; and as we all drive more instead of walk or bicycle; and as children are less allowed to roam freely outdoors through fears of stranger abductions or whatnot, we have ended up vitamin D deficient as a society.
Vitamin D deficiency has been linked with a variety of issues, including cancer, depression, diabetes, obesity, schizophrenia, autism, heart disease, tooth decay, asthma, allergies, osteoporosis, and even influenza.
Ironically, vitamin D deficiency may be causing even more skin cancers in office workers, because being vitamin D deficient cripples some of the immune response that prevents cancer cells from getting out of control.
Modern window glass has also been "improved" to let through less UV-B rays to prevent carpet fading; so now we have faded people instead.
:-(Consider that vitamin D deficiency is related to behavioral issues like depression that can manifest themselves in different ways in children.
If kids misbehaves in school, they are often denied going outside at recess into the sunshine.
If kids misbehave more, they are denied being outside all summer in the sunshine because they have to go to summer school.
If they are really bad eventually, then kids get set to juvenile detention and then prison where they may be mostly indoors for years.
Sadly, that is a negative spiral of vitamin D deficiency.
Homeschoolers at least have the option of being outdoors more and getting more sunshine.I wrote some on that connection here:"ADHD or lack of Vitamin D?
Albany Free School connection?
"http://listcultures.org/pipermail/p2presearch\_listcultures.org/2009-October/005083.html [listcultures.org]"I have no doubt such a play-based curriculum is a good thing and better than  compulsory school for most kids.
I love learner-directed education, where  public schools would become more like public libraries.
But, what if some of the magic with the kids labeled ADHD at the Albany Free  School is that, instead of getting Ritalin, that kids who have been labeled  are allowed to play outdoors in the sunlight a lot?
Especially African  American kids in that more northern area of the USA who will struggle more  with getting enough Vitamin D at that lattitude?
The Free School has an outdoor courtyard at the school kids can use when they want, and they allow  kids to go to the nearby parks, plus they have some rural lands they go on field trips too.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30864252</id>
	<title>Re:Ugh</title>
	<author>Zerth</author>
	<datestamp>1264158480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They blame it on video games because last time they tried blaming it on excessive sunblock use and got reamed by the cancer prevention groups.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They blame it on video games because last time they tried blaming it on excessive sunblock use and got reamed by the cancer prevention groups .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They blame it on video games because last time they tried blaming it on excessive sunblock use and got reamed by the cancer prevention groups.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30863734</id>
	<title>Re:Hmm...</title>
	<author>Duradin</author>
	<datestamp>1264156140000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>And 30 minutes of sunlight in some locations will leave you with frostbite, hypothermia or just plain death if you're running around with a lot of exposed flesh.</p><p>A couple taaaalll glasses of milk or losing a few extremities... tough choice.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And 30 minutes of sunlight in some locations will leave you with frostbite , hypothermia or just plain death if you 're running around with a lot of exposed flesh.A couple taaaalll glasses of milk or losing a few extremities... tough choice .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And 30 minutes of sunlight in some locations will leave you with frostbite, hypothermia or just plain death if you're running around with a lot of exposed flesh.A couple taaaalll glasses of milk or losing a few extremities... tough choice.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30863952</id>
	<title>Milk -- it does a body good</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264157100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've been playing video games in a "prolonged" manner for 20 years. I used to drink milk for every meal. No rickets. In fact, I still have all my teeth and have only broken two bones (the same pinky twice from various injuries during gym class).</p><p>Drink milk.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been playing video games in a " prolonged " manner for 20 years .
I used to drink milk for every meal .
No rickets .
In fact , I still have all my teeth and have only broken two bones ( the same pinky twice from various injuries during gym class ) .Drink milk .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been playing video games in a "prolonged" manner for 20 years.
I used to drink milk for every meal.
No rickets.
In fact, I still have all my teeth and have only broken two bones (the same pinky twice from various injuries during gym class).Drink milk.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30863500</id>
	<title>Re:Hmm...</title>
	<author>Monkeedude1212</author>
	<datestamp>1264154940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I just did a bit of research, it would take 10 taaaallll Glasses of Vitamin D enriched Milk to barely get the amount required.</p><p>However, less than 30 minutes of sunlight (varying on your size, your skin pigmentation and where you live) will deliver this amount.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just did a bit of research , it would take 10 taaaallll Glasses of Vitamin D enriched Milk to barely get the amount required.However , less than 30 minutes of sunlight ( varying on your size , your skin pigmentation and where you live ) will deliver this amount .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just did a bit of research, it would take 10 taaaallll Glasses of Vitamin D enriched Milk to barely get the amount required.However, less than 30 minutes of sunlight (varying on your size, your skin pigmentation and where you live) will deliver this amount.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Via Wikipedia</title>
	<author>HoboCop</author>
	<datestamp>1264155960000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Also from the Wikipedia article, the vitamin D deficiency prevents your stomach from absorbing calcium, causing rickets.  So in any case, being deficient in calcium is the underlying problem.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Also from the Wikipedia article , the vitamin D deficiency prevents your stomach from absorbing calcium , causing rickets .
So in any case , being deficient in calcium is the underlying problem .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Also from the Wikipedia article, the vitamin D deficiency prevents your stomach from absorbing calcium, causing rickets.
So in any case, being deficient in calcium is the underlying problem.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30863710</id>
	<title>If people stayed in their house all day and gamed</title>
	<author>Ukab the Great</author>
	<datestamp>1264156020000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Wouldn't there also be a sizable drop in the percentages of STD's contracted, unplanned pregnancies, traffic accidents, drunk and disorderly conduct, and homicides?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Would n't there also be a sizable drop in the percentages of STD 's contracted , unplanned pregnancies , traffic accidents , drunk and disorderly conduct , and homicides ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wouldn't there also be a sizable drop in the percentages of STD's contracted, unplanned pregnancies, traffic accidents, drunk and disorderly conduct, and homicides?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30863860</id>
	<title>Re:Milk?</title>
	<author>brian0918</author>
	<datestamp>1264156740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
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	<htmltext>On the contrary: Milk and other fortified foods provide only minuscule amounts of vitamin D, and it is in the form that is less-readily absorbed by the human body - D2.
<br> <br>
A healthy level of vitamin D in the blood should be around 60 ng/mL, but even drinking several glasses of milk a day, you would barely go beyond the widespread, deficient level of around 25-30. In order to reach 60+, you'll have to supplement with the animal version of vitamin D, which is the <b>liquid softgel Vitamin D3</b>, and <i>not</i> the hard tablet D2 that's made from plant matter. If the bottle just says "Vitamin D", chances are it's D2, and you should avoid that.
<br> <br>
Take about 4,000 to 8,000 IU per day and you're golden. On top of that, your immune system will be able to fight off the common colds that everyone else gets each year due to D deficiency.
<br> <br>
And don't bother trying to supplement with sun. Spending our lives in the shade has dramatically reduced our ability to convert sunlight into vitamin D.
<br> <br>
Sources: <a href="http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/getting-vitamin-d-right.html" title="blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">this cardiologist</a> [blogspot.com] and <a href="http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2008/10/vitamin-d-its-not-just-another-vitamin.html" title="blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">this neurobiologist</a> [blogspot.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>On the contrary : Milk and other fortified foods provide only minuscule amounts of vitamin D , and it is in the form that is less-readily absorbed by the human body - D2 .
A healthy level of vitamin D in the blood should be around 60 ng/mL , but even drinking several glasses of milk a day , you would barely go beyond the widespread , deficient level of around 25-30 .
In order to reach 60 + , you 'll have to supplement with the animal version of vitamin D , which is the liquid softgel Vitamin D3 , and not the hard tablet D2 that 's made from plant matter .
If the bottle just says " Vitamin D " , chances are it 's D2 , and you should avoid that .
Take about 4,000 to 8,000 IU per day and you 're golden .
On top of that , your immune system will be able to fight off the common colds that everyone else gets each year due to D deficiency .
And do n't bother trying to supplement with sun .
Spending our lives in the shade has dramatically reduced our ability to convert sunlight into vitamin D . Sources : this cardiologist [ blogspot.com ] and this neurobiologist [ blogspot.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On the contrary: Milk and other fortified foods provide only minuscule amounts of vitamin D, and it is in the form that is less-readily absorbed by the human body - D2.
A healthy level of vitamin D in the blood should be around 60 ng/mL, but even drinking several glasses of milk a day, you would barely go beyond the widespread, deficient level of around 25-30.
In order to reach 60+, you'll have to supplement with the animal version of vitamin D, which is the liquid softgel Vitamin D3, and not the hard tablet D2 that's made from plant matter.
If the bottle just says "Vitamin D", chances are it's D2, and you should avoid that.
Take about 4,000 to 8,000 IU per day and you're golden.
On top of that, your immune system will be able to fight off the common colds that everyone else gets each year due to D deficiency.
And don't bother trying to supplement with sun.
Spending our lives in the shade has dramatically reduced our ability to convert sunlight into vitamin D.
 
Sources: this cardiologist [blogspot.com] and this neurobiologist [blogspot.com]</sentencetext>
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	<title>some one needs to shoot mr burns!</title>
	<author>Joe The Dragon</author>
	<datestamp>1264159620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>some one needs to shoot mr burns!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>some one needs to shoot mr burns !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>some one needs to shoot mr burns!</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Milk?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264182720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Calcium needs vitamin D to actually be used by the body. Sun exposure produces the bulk of natural vitamin D. The amount of milk needed to get a maximally beneficial amount of Vitamin D - which new research is showing to be closer to the level of 5000IU/day than the federally recommended 400IU - requires drinking *gallons* of the stuff. So most people are still deficient, according to this new research, and probably even more so than years ago, since most people stay indoors all day now.</p><p>Tablet supplements, taken with some fat to digest properly, are the way to go. It was not long after starting on them that my mood improved immensely!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Calcium needs vitamin D to actually be used by the body .
Sun exposure produces the bulk of natural vitamin D. The amount of milk needed to get a maximally beneficial amount of Vitamin D - which new research is showing to be closer to the level of 5000IU/day than the federally recommended 400IU - requires drinking * gallons * of the stuff .
So most people are still deficient , according to this new research , and probably even more so than years ago , since most people stay indoors all day now.Tablet supplements , taken with some fat to digest properly , are the way to go .
It was not long after starting on them that my mood improved immensely !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Calcium needs vitamin D to actually be used by the body.
Sun exposure produces the bulk of natural vitamin D. The amount of milk needed to get a maximally beneficial amount of Vitamin D - which new research is showing to be closer to the level of 5000IU/day than the federally recommended 400IU - requires drinking *gallons* of the stuff.
So most people are still deficient, according to this new research, and probably even more so than years ago, since most people stay indoors all day now.Tablet supplements, taken with some fat to digest properly, are the way to go.
It was not long after starting on them that my mood improved immensely!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30864298</id>
	<title>Re:Iodized salt</title>
	<author>Culture20</author>
	<datestamp>1264158660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Don't you dip your hotpockets in ketchup and salt like everyone else?  I'd put salt in my Mt. Dew Gamer Fuel (TM) if it didn't cause it to fizz so much.  Who cares about rickets when we've got heart disease to promote?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't you dip your hotpockets in ketchup and salt like everyone else ?
I 'd put salt in my Mt .
Dew Gamer Fuel ( TM ) if it did n't cause it to fizz so much .
Who cares about rickets when we 've got heart disease to promote ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't you dip your hotpockets in ketchup and salt like everyone else?
I'd put salt in my Mt.
Dew Gamer Fuel (TM) if it didn't cause it to fizz so much.
Who cares about rickets when we've got heart disease to promote?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30863706</id>
	<title>Re:Obvious Solution</title>
	<author>Nerdfest</author>
	<datestamp>1264156020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If my legs looked like the ones in the picture, I think I'd wear a cowboy hat and learn to talk like Sam Elliot. Chicks dig Sam Elliot.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If my legs looked like the ones in the picture , I think I 'd wear a cowboy hat and learn to talk like Sam Elliot .
Chicks dig Sam Elliot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If my legs looked like the ones in the picture, I think I'd wear a cowboy hat and learn to talk like Sam Elliot.
Chicks dig Sam Elliot.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30863578</id>
	<title>Re:Hmm...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264155480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>A healthy level of vitamin D in the blood should be around 60 ng/mL. In order to reach that, you'll have to supplement with the animal version of vitamin D, which is the <b>liquid softgel Vitamin D3</b>, and <i>not</i> the hard tablet D2 that's made from plant matter. If it just says "Vitamin D", chances are it's D2, and you should avoid that.
<br> <br>
Take about 4,000 to 8,000 IU per day and you're golden. On top of that, your immune system will be able to fight off the common colds that everyone else gets each year due to D deficiency.
<br> <br>
And don't bother trying to supplement with sun. Spending our lives in the shade has dramatically reduced our ability to convert sunlight into vitamin D.
<br> <br>
Sources: <a href="http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/getting-vitamin-d-right.html" title="blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">this cardiologist</a> [blogspot.com] and <a href="http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2008/10/vitamin-d-its-not-just-another-vitamin.html" title="blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">this neurobiologist</a> [blogspot.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>A healthy level of vitamin D in the blood should be around 60 ng/mL .
In order to reach that , you 'll have to supplement with the animal version of vitamin D , which is the liquid softgel Vitamin D3 , and not the hard tablet D2 that 's made from plant matter .
If it just says " Vitamin D " , chances are it 's D2 , and you should avoid that .
Take about 4,000 to 8,000 IU per day and you 're golden .
On top of that , your immune system will be able to fight off the common colds that everyone else gets each year due to D deficiency .
And do n't bother trying to supplement with sun .
Spending our lives in the shade has dramatically reduced our ability to convert sunlight into vitamin D . Sources : this cardiologist [ blogspot.com ] and this neurobiologist [ blogspot.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A healthy level of vitamin D in the blood should be around 60 ng/mL.
In order to reach that, you'll have to supplement with the animal version of vitamin D, which is the liquid softgel Vitamin D3, and not the hard tablet D2 that's made from plant matter.
If it just says "Vitamin D", chances are it's D2, and you should avoid that.
Take about 4,000 to 8,000 IU per day and you're golden.
On top of that, your immune system will be able to fight off the common colds that everyone else gets each year due to D deficiency.
And don't bother trying to supplement with sun.
Spending our lives in the shade has dramatically reduced our ability to convert sunlight into vitamin D.
 
Sources: this cardiologist [blogspot.com] and this neurobiologist [blogspot.com]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30865806</id>
	<title>Re:Grain of salt...</title>
	<author>cheekyboy</author>
	<datestamp>1264168860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Salts are crystals, not grains dude.</p><p>What idiot coined that phrase?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Salts are crystals , not grains dude.What idiot coined that phrase ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Salts are crystals, not grains dude.What idiot coined that phrase?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30865254</id>
	<title>-sunlight</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264164960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We don't need more sunlight, we just need brighter TVs and monitors!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We do n't need more sunlight , we just need brighter TVs and monitors !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We don't need more sunlight, we just need brighter TVs and monitors!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30867076</id>
	<title>Complete and utter bullshit.</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1264182300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Rickets is caused by eating trash. Over generations. From being a baby (artificial milk) to growing old.</p><p>With what we eat, it&rsquo;s a wonder, and proof of the robustness of nature, that we can still reproduce and survive!</p><p>I&rsquo;ll make the following statement: &gt;90\% of what we eat nowadays, can&rsquo;t be classified as &ldquo;food&rdquo; anymore.<br>Much less as species-appropriate.</p><p>It&rsquo;s already known, that most so-called &ldquo;age-related&rdquo; diseases actually are coming <em>with</em> age, not because of age. Like hair loss, bad sight, blood pressure, multiple bone diseases, etc, etc, etc.<br>And by &ldquo;known&rdquo;, I mean studies over 30 years, with more than 30,000 patients.<br>(Most studies, which always go maybe a couple of years, can&rsquo;t find anything because it&rsquo;t a very long-term effect.)</p><p>So I blame bad food, until proven otherwise.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Rickets is caused by eating trash .
Over generations .
From being a baby ( artificial milk ) to growing old.With what we eat , it    s a wonder , and proof of the robustness of nature , that we can still reproduce and survive ! I    ll make the following statement : &gt; 90 \ % of what we eat nowadays , can    t be classified as    food    anymore.Much less as species-appropriate.It    s already known , that most so-called    age-related    diseases actually are coming with age , not because of age .
Like hair loss , bad sight , blood pressure , multiple bone diseases , etc , etc , etc.And by    known    , I mean studies over 30 years , with more than 30,000 patients .
( Most studies , which always go maybe a couple of years , can    t find anything because it    t a very long-term effect .
) So I blame bad food , until proven otherwise .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Rickets is caused by eating trash.
Over generations.
From being a baby (artificial milk) to growing old.With what we eat, it’s a wonder, and proof of the robustness of nature, that we can still reproduce and survive!I’ll make the following statement: &gt;90\% of what we eat nowadays, can’t be classified as “food” anymore.Much less as species-appropriate.It’s already known, that most so-called “age-related” diseases actually are coming with age, not because of age.
Like hair loss, bad sight, blood pressure, multiple bone diseases, etc, etc, etc.And by “known”, I mean studies over 30 years, with more than 30,000 patients.
(Most studies, which always go maybe a couple of years, can’t find anything because it’t a very long-term effect.
)So I blame bad food, until proven otherwise.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30864468</id>
	<title>It's not gaming that's the problem</title>
	<author>thetoadwarrior</author>
	<datestamp>1264159500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Parents, yet again, are the true problem. If these kids weren't gaming, they'd be chatting on the computer or watching tv or just playing in their bedroom because parents won't let them outside since there are paedophiles on every street corner. Having both parents working also stops kids from getting out because no one is there to watch them when they're out or even to ensure they go out rather than stay inside all day.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Parents , yet again , are the true problem .
If these kids were n't gaming , they 'd be chatting on the computer or watching tv or just playing in their bedroom because parents wo n't let them outside since there are paedophiles on every street corner .
Having both parents working also stops kids from getting out because no one is there to watch them when they 're out or even to ensure they go out rather than stay inside all day .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Parents, yet again, are the true problem.
If these kids weren't gaming, they'd be chatting on the computer or watching tv or just playing in their bedroom because parents won't let them outside since there are paedophiles on every street corner.
Having both parents working also stops kids from getting out because no one is there to watch them when they're out or even to ensure they go out rather than stay inside all day.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30863344</id>
	<title>Milk?</title>
	<author>OrangeMonkey11</author>
	<datestamp>1264154040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wouldn't drinking milk resolved the Vitamin D deficiency.  I do not know much about the Richet illness but what does sunlight have to do with Calcium.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Would n't drinking milk resolved the Vitamin D deficiency .
I do not know much about the Richet illness but what does sunlight have to do with Calcium .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wouldn't drinking milk resolved the Vitamin D deficiency.
I do not know much about the Richet illness but what does sunlight have to do with Calcium.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30863732</id>
	<title>Re:Hmm...</title>
	<author>hondo77</author>
	<datestamp>1264156080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'd listen the to neurobiologist. The cardiologist seems kinda nutty.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd listen the to neurobiologist .
The cardiologist seems kinda nutty .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd listen the to neurobiologist.
The cardiologist seems kinda nutty.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30864420</id>
	<title>Re:Supplement with Vitamin D3 softgels, 5000IU/day</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264159200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why are you people modding this up? This is the 3rd time it has been posted here.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why are you people modding this up ?
This is the 3rd time it has been posted here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why are you people modding this up?
This is the 3rd time it has been posted here.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30863438</id>
	<title>Obvious Solution</title>
	<author>Sponge Bath</author>
	<datestamp>1264154520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Play your video games outdoors.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Play your video games outdoors .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Play your video games outdoors.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30864892</id>
	<title>Re:Supplement with Vitamin D3 softgels, 5000IU/day</title>
	<author>JrGrouch0</author>
	<datestamp>1264162380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Really? Again? How many times are you going to post this?  And why does everyone keep modding it up?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Really ?
Again ? How many times are you going to post this ?
And why does everyone keep modding it up ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Really?
Again? How many times are you going to post this?
And why does everyone keep modding it up?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30864178</id>
	<title>Uptick -- not uptake</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264158060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Apparently Mr rape commando doesn't know the difference between an uptick (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/upticks) and uptake (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/uptake).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apparently Mr rape commando does n't know the difference between an uptick ( http : //www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/upticks ) and uptake ( http : //www.thefreedictionary.com/uptake ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apparently Mr rape commando doesn't know the difference between an uptick (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/upticks) and uptake (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/uptake).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30863984</id>
	<title>Gilchrest fractures</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264157280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dr. John Cannell of the Vitamin D Council site also calls these "Gilchrest Fractures" after a dermatologist:<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; <a href="http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/newsletter/2006-nov.shtml" title="vitamindcouncil.org">http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/newsletter/2006-nov.shtml</a> [vitamindcouncil.org]<br>"""<br>Your son had what I call a "Gilchrest fracture." About 30 years ago, dermatologists like Barbara Gilchrest at Boston University, began telling Americans, including children, to stay out of the sun, lather on the sunblock, and to "drink milk" if they are concerned about vitamin D. The problem is that your son would have to drink at least 40 glasses of milk a day to get enough vitamin D if he followed her sun-avoidance advice and it sounds like he did.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; Gilchrest fractures are vitamin D deficiency fractures in healthy people that occur after normal activities. Two studies have clearly linked such fractures to low vitamin D levels. A recent Finnish study found Gilchrest fractures to be almost four times more likely in young soldiers with vitamin D levels below 30 ng/ml (75 nmol/L). An earlier study of Israeli soldiers showed the same thing. The surprising thing about both studies was none of the men were obviously vitamin D deficient, indicating&mdash;once again&mdash;that current lower limits of vitamin D blood levels are set too low and that serum 25(OH)D levels should be maintained at 50&ndash;80 ng/ml, year-round. [Ruohola JP, et al. Association between serum 25(OH)D concentrations and bone stress fractures in Finnish young men. J Bone Miner Res. 2006 Sep;21(9):1483&ndash;8. Givon U, et al. Stress fractures in the Israeli defense forces from 1995 to 1996. Clin Orthop Relat Res. 2000 Apr;(373):227&ndash;32.]<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; The rates of Gilchrest fractures, even in young people, have been steadily increasing over the last thirty years, since dermatologists have been handing out their pathological advice. For example, the incidence of fractured wrists in American kids went up 32\% in boys and 56\% in girls between the years 1970&ndash;2000. [Khosla S, et al. Incidence of childhood distal forearm fractures over 30 years: a population-based study. JAMA. 2003 Sep 17;290(11):1479&ndash;85.]<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; A study in Great Britain showed a clear latitudinal variation with the lowest fracture rates in sunnier southeast England and the highest rates in of Gilchrest fractures in Northern Ireland, Wales, and Scotland. [Cooper C, et al. Epidemiology of childhood fractures in Britain: a study using the general practice research database. J Bone Miner Res. 2004 Dec;19(12):1976&ndash;81.]<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; The good news is that your son only suffered a broken foot by following Professor Gilchrest's advice. As you will see below, others have lost their lives.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; All this leaves us with a question, "Are physicians responsible for their advice?" When dermatologists or other physicians subvert the vitamin D steroid hormone system by telling patients to avoid the sun, do they assume an affirmative duty to assess and maintain the vitamin D system they have subverted? Do they have a duty to inform their patients about relevant risks of sun-avoidance? Do they have a duty to inform their patients about relevant risks of vitamin D deficiency? How many dermatologists even bother to check vitamin D levels in their pale-as-ghost patients? How many bother to advise vitamin D supplements? If they do advise supplements, how many advise enough vitamin D to compensate for lack of sunlight? These are questions for tort lawyers.<br>"""</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dr. John Cannell of the Vitamin D Council site also calls these " Gilchrest Fractures " after a dermatologist :     http : //www.vitamindcouncil.org/newsletter/2006-nov.shtml [ vitamindcouncil.org ] " " " Your son had what I call a " Gilchrest fracture .
" About 30 years ago , dermatologists like Barbara Gilchrest at Boston University , began telling Americans , including children , to stay out of the sun , lather on the sunblock , and to " drink milk " if they are concerned about vitamin D. The problem is that your son would have to drink at least 40 glasses of milk a day to get enough vitamin D if he followed her sun-avoidance advice and it sounds like he did .
    Gilchrest fractures are vitamin D deficiency fractures in healthy people that occur after normal activities .
Two studies have clearly linked such fractures to low vitamin D levels .
A recent Finnish study found Gilchrest fractures to be almost four times more likely in young soldiers with vitamin D levels below 30 ng/ml ( 75 nmol/L ) .
An earlier study of Israeli soldiers showed the same thing .
The surprising thing about both studies was none of the men were obviously vitamin D deficient , indicating    once again    that current lower limits of vitamin D blood levels are set too low and that serum 25 ( OH ) D levels should be maintained at 50    80 ng/ml , year-round .
[ Ruohola JP , et al .
Association between serum 25 ( OH ) D concentrations and bone stress fractures in Finnish young men .
J Bone Miner Res .
2006 Sep ; 21 ( 9 ) : 1483    8 .
Givon U , et al .
Stress fractures in the Israeli defense forces from 1995 to 1996 .
Clin Orthop Relat Res .
2000 Apr ; ( 373 ) : 227    32 .
]     The rates of Gilchrest fractures , even in young people , have been steadily increasing over the last thirty years , since dermatologists have been handing out their pathological advice .
For example , the incidence of fractured wrists in American kids went up 32 \ % in boys and 56 \ % in girls between the years 1970    2000 .
[ Khosla S , et al .
Incidence of childhood distal forearm fractures over 30 years : a population-based study .
JAMA. 2003 Sep 17 ; 290 ( 11 ) : 1479    85 .
]     A study in Great Britain showed a clear latitudinal variation with the lowest fracture rates in sunnier southeast England and the highest rates in of Gilchrest fractures in Northern Ireland , Wales , and Scotland .
[ Cooper C , et al .
Epidemiology of childhood fractures in Britain : a study using the general practice research database .
J Bone Miner Res .
2004 Dec ; 19 ( 12 ) : 1976    81 .
]     The good news is that your son only suffered a broken foot by following Professor Gilchrest 's advice .
As you will see below , others have lost their lives .
.. .     All this leaves us with a question , " Are physicians responsible for their advice ?
" When dermatologists or other physicians subvert the vitamin D steroid hormone system by telling patients to avoid the sun , do they assume an affirmative duty to assess and maintain the vitamin D system they have subverted ?
Do they have a duty to inform their patients about relevant risks of sun-avoidance ?
Do they have a duty to inform their patients about relevant risks of vitamin D deficiency ?
How many dermatologists even bother to check vitamin D levels in their pale-as-ghost patients ?
How many bother to advise vitamin D supplements ?
If they do advise supplements , how many advise enough vitamin D to compensate for lack of sunlight ?
These are questions for tort lawyers .
" " "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dr. John Cannell of the Vitamin D Council site also calls these "Gilchrest Fractures" after a dermatologist:
    http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/newsletter/2006-nov.shtml [vitamindcouncil.org]"""Your son had what I call a "Gilchrest fracture.
" About 30 years ago, dermatologists like Barbara Gilchrest at Boston University, began telling Americans, including children, to stay out of the sun, lather on the sunblock, and to "drink milk" if they are concerned about vitamin D. The problem is that your son would have to drink at least 40 glasses of milk a day to get enough vitamin D if he followed her sun-avoidance advice and it sounds like he did.
    Gilchrest fractures are vitamin D deficiency fractures in healthy people that occur after normal activities.
Two studies have clearly linked such fractures to low vitamin D levels.
A recent Finnish study found Gilchrest fractures to be almost four times more likely in young soldiers with vitamin D levels below 30 ng/ml (75 nmol/L).
An earlier study of Israeli soldiers showed the same thing.
The surprising thing about both studies was none of the men were obviously vitamin D deficient, indicating—once again—that current lower limits of vitamin D blood levels are set too low and that serum 25(OH)D levels should be maintained at 50–80 ng/ml, year-round.
[Ruohola JP, et al.
Association between serum 25(OH)D concentrations and bone stress fractures in Finnish young men.
J Bone Miner Res.
2006 Sep;21(9):1483–8.
Givon U, et al.
Stress fractures in the Israeli defense forces from 1995 to 1996.
Clin Orthop Relat Res.
2000 Apr;(373):227–32.
]
    The rates of Gilchrest fractures, even in young people, have been steadily increasing over the last thirty years, since dermatologists have been handing out their pathological advice.
For example, the incidence of fractured wrists in American kids went up 32\% in boys and 56\% in girls between the years 1970–2000.
[Khosla S, et al.
Incidence of childhood distal forearm fractures over 30 years: a population-based study.
JAMA. 2003 Sep 17;290(11):1479–85.
]
    A study in Great Britain showed a clear latitudinal variation with the lowest fracture rates in sunnier southeast England and the highest rates in of Gilchrest fractures in Northern Ireland, Wales, and Scotland.
[Cooper C, et al.
Epidemiology of childhood fractures in Britain: a study using the general practice research database.
J Bone Miner Res.
2004 Dec;19(12):1976–81.
]
    The good news is that your son only suffered a broken foot by following Professor Gilchrest's advice.
As you will see below, others have lost their lives.
...
    All this leaves us with a question, "Are physicians responsible for their advice?
" When dermatologists or other physicians subvert the vitamin D steroid hormone system by telling patients to avoid the sun, do they assume an affirmative duty to assess and maintain the vitamin D system they have subverted?
Do they have a duty to inform their patients about relevant risks of sun-avoidance?
Do they have a duty to inform their patients about relevant risks of vitamin D deficiency?
How many dermatologists even bother to check vitamin D levels in their pale-as-ghost patients?
How many bother to advise vitamin D supplements?
If they do advise supplements, how many advise enough vitamin D to compensate for lack of sunlight?
These are questions for tort lawyers.
"""</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30866438</id>
	<title>I'm an old games fan</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264175220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>we are old games fans<br>before xbox and wii were brands<br>and our legs aren't bowed<br>and our faces have tans</p><p>it has something to do with having to walk barefoot 3 miles in the snow to school i understands</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>we are old games fansbefore xbox and wii were brandsand our legs are n't bowedand our faces have tansit has something to do with having to walk barefoot 3 miles in the snow to school i understands</tokentext>
<sentencetext>we are old games fansbefore xbox and wii were brandsand our legs aren't bowedand our faces have tansit has something to do with having to walk barefoot 3 miles in the snow to school i understands</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30863728</id>
	<title>Re:Milk?</title>
	<author>brian0918</author>
	<datestamp>1264156080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Milk provides only miniscule amounts of vitamin D, and it is in the form that is less-readily absorbed by the human body - D2.
<br> <br>
A healthy level of vitamin D in the blood should be around 60 ng/mL, but even drinking several glasses of milk a day, you would barely go beyond the widespread, deficient level of around 25-30. In order to reach 60+, you'll have to supplement with the animal version of vitamin D, which is the <b>liquid softgel Vitamin D3</b>, and <i>not</i> the hard tablet D2 that's made from plant matter. If it just says "Vitamin D", chances are it's D2, and you should avoid that.
<br> <br>
Take about 4,000 to 8,000 IU per day and you're golden. On top of that, your immune system will be able to fight off the common colds that everyone else gets each year due to D deficiency.
<br> <br>
And don't bother trying to supplement with sun. Spending our lives in the shade has dramatically reduced our ability to convert sunlight into vitamin D.
<br> <br>
Sources: <a href="http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/getting-vitamin-d-right.html" title="blogspot.com">this cardiologist</a> [blogspot.com] and <a href="http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2008/10/vitamin-d-its-not-just-another-vitamin.html" title="blogspot.com">this neurobiologist</a> [blogspot.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Milk provides only miniscule amounts of vitamin D , and it is in the form that is less-readily absorbed by the human body - D2 .
A healthy level of vitamin D in the blood should be around 60 ng/mL , but even drinking several glasses of milk a day , you would barely go beyond the widespread , deficient level of around 25-30 .
In order to reach 60 + , you 'll have to supplement with the animal version of vitamin D , which is the liquid softgel Vitamin D3 , and not the hard tablet D2 that 's made from plant matter .
If it just says " Vitamin D " , chances are it 's D2 , and you should avoid that .
Take about 4,000 to 8,000 IU per day and you 're golden .
On top of that , your immune system will be able to fight off the common colds that everyone else gets each year due to D deficiency .
And do n't bother trying to supplement with sun .
Spending our lives in the shade has dramatically reduced our ability to convert sunlight into vitamin D . Sources : this cardiologist [ blogspot.com ] and this neurobiologist [ blogspot.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Milk provides only miniscule amounts of vitamin D, and it is in the form that is less-readily absorbed by the human body - D2.
A healthy level of vitamin D in the blood should be around 60 ng/mL, but even drinking several glasses of milk a day, you would barely go beyond the widespread, deficient level of around 25-30.
In order to reach 60+, you'll have to supplement with the animal version of vitamin D, which is the liquid softgel Vitamin D3, and not the hard tablet D2 that's made from plant matter.
If it just says "Vitamin D", chances are it's D2, and you should avoid that.
Take about 4,000 to 8,000 IU per day and you're golden.
On top of that, your immune system will be able to fight off the common colds that everyone else gets each year due to D deficiency.
And don't bother trying to supplement with sun.
Spending our lives in the shade has dramatically reduced our ability to convert sunlight into vitamin D.
 
Sources: this cardiologist [blogspot.com] and this neurobiologist [blogspot.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30863418</id>
	<title>Gaming?</title>
	<author>MrMista\_B</author>
	<datestamp>1264154460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Bullshit.</p><p>More likely the result of fear-tactic news scaring people into keeping their kids indoors 24 hours a day except for school. Playgrounds are where perverts lurk, remember? Gotta keep little Billy safe!</p><p>Of course, indoors there are videogames - but there's also books, and television. Gaming is just one possible indoor activity - if you don't let your kids outside, don't be surprised if they end up fucked up.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Bullshit.More likely the result of fear-tactic news scaring people into keeping their kids indoors 24 hours a day except for school .
Playgrounds are where perverts lurk , remember ?
Got ta keep little Billy safe ! Of course , indoors there are videogames - but there 's also books , and television .
Gaming is just one possible indoor activity - if you do n't let your kids outside , do n't be surprised if they end up fucked up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bullshit.More likely the result of fear-tactic news scaring people into keeping their kids indoors 24 hours a day except for school.
Playgrounds are where perverts lurk, remember?
Gotta keep little Billy safe!Of course, indoors there are videogames - but there's also books, and television.
Gaming is just one possible indoor activity - if you don't let your kids outside, don't be surprised if they end up fucked up.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30866012</id>
	<title>What they don't say</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264170540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What they don't say here is that it is black immigrants to England that are most at risk.  Pale white children can get enough from just a few minutes of exposure every day, like walking to school, even with only their faces exposed.  Black kids need a lot more exposure to the sun.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What they do n't say here is that it is black immigrants to England that are most at risk .
Pale white children can get enough from just a few minutes of exposure every day , like walking to school , even with only their faces exposed .
Black kids need a lot more exposure to the sun .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What they don't say here is that it is black immigrants to England that are most at risk.
Pale white children can get enough from just a few minutes of exposure every day, like walking to school, even with only their faces exposed.
Black kids need a lot more exposure to the sun.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30875358</id>
	<title>Re:Grain of salt...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264265220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Kids sat in front of the TV for hours a day before video games became common.  Suggesting gaming is directly responsible for an increase in indoor time is unsubstantiated.  Gaming may just be replacing time already spent watching TV, or may be one of many activities of choice for children who aren't allowed out-doors by their overprotective parents.</p><p>Regardless of causation, nothing about gaming is in the actual paper, so bringing it up is at best pure conjecture, and more likely totally insincere agenda pushing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Kids sat in front of the TV for hours a day before video games became common .
Suggesting gaming is directly responsible for an increase in indoor time is unsubstantiated .
Gaming may just be replacing time already spent watching TV , or may be one of many activities of choice for children who are n't allowed out-doors by their overprotective parents.Regardless of causation , nothing about gaming is in the actual paper , so bringing it up is at best pure conjecture , and more likely totally insincere agenda pushing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Kids sat in front of the TV for hours a day before video games became common.
Suggesting gaming is directly responsible for an increase in indoor time is unsubstantiated.
Gaming may just be replacing time already spent watching TV, or may be one of many activities of choice for children who aren't allowed out-doors by their overprotective parents.Regardless of causation, nothing about gaming is in the actual paper, so bringing it up is at best pure conjecture, and more likely totally insincere agenda pushing.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30863704</id>
	<title>Re:Gaming?</title>
	<author>jimmyhugs</author>
	<datestamp>1264156020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I find that the invisible fence keeps my children in the yard and away from predators. The only time they take the shock collars off is when we use the slip-n-slide.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I find that the invisible fence keeps my children in the yard and away from predators .
The only time they take the shock collars off is when we use the slip-n-slide .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I find that the invisible fence keeps my children in the yard and away from predators.
The only time they take the shock collars off is when we use the slip-n-slide.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30864784</id>
	<title>Re:Via Wikipedia</title>
	<author>icebike</author>
	<datestamp>1264161480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Revenge of the Sun block scare-mongers if you ask me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Revenge of the Sun block scare-mongers if you ask me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Revenge of the Sun block scare-mongers if you ask me.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30863408</id>
	<title>The future of gaming</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264154400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So gamers are going to evolve into squids?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So gamers are going to evolve into squids ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So gamers are going to evolve into squids?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30863342</id>
	<title>I can see the next new game drink... DDrink!</title>
	<author>Fallen Kell</author>
	<datestamp>1264154040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>DDrink!<br> <br>

A Double Dose of D along with a Double Dollop of Caffeine! Get your Dose and Drink DDrink!</htmltext>
<tokenext>DDrink !
A Double Dose of D along with a Double Dollop of Caffeine !
Get your Dose and Drink DDrink !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>DDrink!
A Double Dose of D along with a Double Dollop of Caffeine!
Get your Dose and Drink DDrink!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30864706</id>
	<title>Re:Via Wikipedia</title>
	<author>Nerdposeur</author>
	<datestamp>1264160820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>[Pours glass of milk]
[Turns on sun lamp]

Game on.</htmltext>
<tokenext>[ Pours glass of milk ] [ Turns on sun lamp ] Game on .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>[Pours glass of milk]
[Turns on sun lamp]

Game on.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30867030</id>
	<title>So, why'd they have it back then, then?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264181700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Was it due to all their 'industriousness'?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Was it due to all their 'industriousness ' ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Was it due to all their 'industriousness'?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30866422</id>
	<title>Explains a lot.</title>
	<author>Tak\_1</author>
	<datestamp>1264175100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext> A Trip to the doctor recently found that my blood work was  great, except for a SERIOUS vitamin D shortage.  Now I have to take 2000Mg of Vitamin D a day.  Considering my free time consists of  "World of Warcraft"  this isn't too surprising.

 But I'm 45 years old. When I was a kid I had an actual life and a decent diet.  If my vitamin D levels had been this low at 12, my bones would have been like soft cheese.  How hard is it to force some vitamins into your kid?  We were raised by a single parent, and somehow she still managed to make us take a multi-vitamin.  I can't get over the fact that there are people who would never dream of missing an oil change on their car who can't see to it that their kid gets a vitamin supplement every day.</htmltext>
<tokenext>A Trip to the doctor recently found that my blood work was great , except for a SERIOUS vitamin D shortage .
Now I have to take 2000Mg of Vitamin D a day .
Considering my free time consists of " World of Warcraft " this is n't too surprising .
But I 'm 45 years old .
When I was a kid I had an actual life and a decent diet .
If my vitamin D levels had been this low at 12 , my bones would have been like soft cheese .
How hard is it to force some vitamins into your kid ?
We were raised by a single parent , and somehow she still managed to make us take a multi-vitamin .
I ca n't get over the fact that there are people who would never dream of missing an oil change on their car who ca n't see to it that their kid gets a vitamin supplement every day .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> A Trip to the doctor recently found that my blood work was  great, except for a SERIOUS vitamin D shortage.
Now I have to take 2000Mg of Vitamin D a day.
Considering my free time consists of  "World of Warcraft"  this isn't too surprising.
But I'm 45 years old.
When I was a kid I had an actual life and a decent diet.
If my vitamin D levels had been this low at 12, my bones would have been like soft cheese.
How hard is it to force some vitamins into your kid?
We were raised by a single parent, and somehow she still managed to make us take a multi-vitamin.
I can't get over the fact that there are people who would never dream of missing an oil change on their car who can't see to it that their kid gets a vitamin supplement every day.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30863482</id>
	<title>Re:Hmm...</title>
	<author>MozeeToby</author>
	<datestamp>1264154820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or they could just go outside for 10 minutes a day *gasp* without sunscreen.  Crazy, I know (and not necissarily effective in certain latitudes during the winter) but it would solve the problem very easily, no changes needed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or they could just go outside for 10 minutes a day * gasp * without sunscreen .
Crazy , I know ( and not necissarily effective in certain latitudes during the winter ) but it would solve the problem very easily , no changes needed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or they could just go outside for 10 minutes a day *gasp* without sunscreen.
Crazy, I know (and not necissarily effective in certain latitudes during the winter) but it would solve the problem very easily, no changes needed.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30864116</id>
	<title>Re:Obvious Solution</title>
	<author>blueg3</author>
	<datestamp>1264157820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Way back when, I had a version of Wii Sports Tennis that you could play outdoors. The controllers were a lot heavier back then, though, and the game only worked properly in certain areas.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Way back when , I had a version of Wii Sports Tennis that you could play outdoors .
The controllers were a lot heavier back then , though , and the game only worked properly in certain areas .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Way back when, I had a version of Wii Sports Tennis that you could play outdoors.
The controllers were a lot heavier back then, though, and the game only worked properly in certain areas.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30863604</id>
	<title>Re:Alrighty, clue me in</title>
	<author>DarkIcon</author>
	<datestamp>1264155600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, it does.<br>I am not a chemist or biologist, but my understanding is that sunlight starts (or facilitates) a chemical process that produces Vitamin D.     Without sunlight, that reaction does not happen.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , it does.I am not a chemist or biologist , but my understanding is that sunlight starts ( or facilitates ) a chemical process that produces Vitamin D. Without sunlight , that reaction does not happen .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, it does.I am not a chemist or biologist, but my understanding is that sunlight starts (or facilitates) a chemical process that produces Vitamin D.     Without sunlight, that reaction does not happen.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30863286</id>
	<title>First</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264153800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Scurvy!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Scurvy !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Scurvy!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30864480</id>
	<title>Re:Gaming?</title>
	<author>wjc\_25</author>
	<datestamp>1264159560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Books are a poor example. People can and do read books outside; I have yet to see someone trying to play Halo out on the quad, on the other hand. Video games may be being singled out excessively, but comparing them to television I don't know nearly as many shut-ins who watch TV obsessively as game obsessively.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Books are a poor example .
People can and do read books outside ; I have yet to see someone trying to play Halo out on the quad , on the other hand .
Video games may be being singled out excessively , but comparing them to television I do n't know nearly as many shut-ins who watch TV obsessively as game obsessively .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Books are a poor example.
People can and do read books outside; I have yet to see someone trying to play Halo out on the quad, on the other hand.
Video games may be being singled out excessively, but comparing them to television I don't know nearly as many shut-ins who watch TV obsessively as game obsessively.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30863972</id>
	<title>Re:Milk?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264157220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So in other words, we should be taking your wonderful vitamin D formula instead of going outside and suffering all of the nasty side effects like exercise, tanning, socialization, and possibly getting a life?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...Right. See you later then.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So in other words , we should be taking your wonderful vitamin D formula instead of going outside and suffering all of the nasty side effects like exercise , tanning , socialization , and possibly getting a life ?
...Right. See you later then .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So in other words, we should be taking your wonderful vitamin D formula instead of going outside and suffering all of the nasty side effects like exercise, tanning, socialization, and possibly getting a life?
...Right. See you later then.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30863822</id>
	<title>YOU FAIL IT</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264156500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><A HREF="http://goat.cx/" title="goat.cx" rel="nofollow">escape them by Look at the 5ignificantly Perspective, the private sex party</a> [goat.cx]</htmltext>
<tokenext>escape them by Look at the 5ignificantly Perspective , the private sex party [ goat.cx ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>escape them by Look at the 5ignificantly Perspective, the private sex party [goat.cx]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30863360</id>
	<title>This just in!</title>
	<author>bearflash</author>
	<datestamp>1264154100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>As a follow up to this story, apparently smoking cigarettes has also been linked to a higher chance of being diagnosed with lung cancer, heart disease and other terminal ailments</htmltext>
<tokenext>As a follow up to this story , apparently smoking cigarettes has also been linked to a higher chance of being diagnosed with lung cancer , heart disease and other terminal ailments</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a follow up to this story, apparently smoking cigarettes has also been linked to a higher chance of being diagnosed with lung cancer, heart disease and other terminal ailments</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30863506</id>
	<title>Ugh</title>
	<author>rwalker429</author>
	<datestamp>1264154940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why are video games exclusively targeted in this?  Yes, they create a pretty attractive form of indoor entertainment but the problem here isn't video games.  It's the people playing them or in the case of children, THEIR PARENTS.  Send the kids outside.  Heck, a good video game will make a lot of kids WANT to go play outside...if only so they can emulate their favorite fictional hero of the day.  The same case could be made for television, really great sex, or pretty much anything else that makes staying inside an attractive option.  Give the sensationalism a rest.  And if you're doing this to yourself as an adult and not climbing out of the basement bat-cave and seeing the light of day once in awhile...well then you're making a choice about your health and lifestyle.  Last I recalled, being an adult involved making choices like that.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why are video games exclusively targeted in this ?
Yes , they create a pretty attractive form of indoor entertainment but the problem here is n't video games .
It 's the people playing them or in the case of children , THEIR PARENTS .
Send the kids outside .
Heck , a good video game will make a lot of kids WANT to go play outside...if only so they can emulate their favorite fictional hero of the day .
The same case could be made for television , really great sex , or pretty much anything else that makes staying inside an attractive option .
Give the sensationalism a rest .
And if you 're doing this to yourself as an adult and not climbing out of the basement bat-cave and seeing the light of day once in awhile...well then you 're making a choice about your health and lifestyle .
Last I recalled , being an adult involved making choices like that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why are video games exclusively targeted in this?
Yes, they create a pretty attractive form of indoor entertainment but the problem here isn't video games.
It's the people playing them or in the case of children, THEIR PARENTS.
Send the kids outside.
Heck, a good video game will make a lot of kids WANT to go play outside...if only so they can emulate their favorite fictional hero of the day.
The same case could be made for television, really great sex, or pretty much anything else that makes staying inside an attractive option.
Give the sensationalism a rest.
And if you're doing this to yourself as an adult and not climbing out of the basement bat-cave and seeing the light of day once in awhile...well then you're making a choice about your health and lifestyle.
Last I recalled, being an adult involved making choices like that.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30863702</id>
	<title>Iodized salt</title>
	<author>wiredlogic</author>
	<datestamp>1264156020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I believe that prepared foods do not use iodized salt. You only can only get it with salt in its raw granular form. Otherwise, most people would get too much iodine in their diet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I believe that prepared foods do not use iodized salt .
You only can only get it with salt in its raw granular form .
Otherwise , most people would get too much iodine in their diet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I believe that prepared foods do not use iodized salt.
You only can only get it with salt in its raw granular form.
Otherwise, most people would get too much iodine in their diet.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30863328</id>
	<title>The kicker:</title>
	<author>Monkeedude1212</author>
	<datestamp>1264153980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you spend so much time inside playing video games that you get a case of the rickets, you've got way more problems than just vitamin deficiency.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you spend so much time inside playing video games that you get a case of the rickets , you 've got way more problems than just vitamin deficiency .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you spend so much time inside playing video games that you get a case of the rickets, you've got way more problems than just vitamin deficiency.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30867732</id>
	<title>Re:Via Wikipedia</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264278600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>The predominant cause is a vitamin D deficiency, but lack of adequate calcium in the diet may also lead to rickets (cases of severe diarrhea and vomiting may be the cause of the deficiency).</i> </p><p>However, the bozos made no mention of the fact that vitamin D deficiency has, in recent years, also been heavily related to the use of sunscreens.</p><p>Since it's naturally produced by exposure to the sun, and since everyone is all over the place with, "OMG -- see the sun -- get skin cancer", lots of people are depriving themselves of healthful exposure by slathering on SPF 400 creams every time they walk out to the mailbox.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The predominant cause is a vitamin D deficiency , but lack of adequate calcium in the diet may also lead to rickets ( cases of severe diarrhea and vomiting may be the cause of the deficiency ) .
However , the bozos made no mention of the fact that vitamin D deficiency has , in recent years , also been heavily related to the use of sunscreens.Since it 's naturally produced by exposure to the sun , and since everyone is all over the place with , " OMG -- see the sun -- get skin cancer " , lots of people are depriving themselves of healthful exposure by slathering on SPF 400 creams every time they walk out to the mailbox .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The predominant cause is a vitamin D deficiency, but lack of adequate calcium in the diet may also lead to rickets (cases of severe diarrhea and vomiting may be the cause of the deficiency).
However, the bozos made no mention of the fact that vitamin D deficiency has, in recent years, also been heavily related to the use of sunscreens.Since it's naturally produced by exposure to the sun, and since everyone is all over the place with, "OMG -- see the sun -- get skin cancer", lots of people are depriving themselves of healthful exposure by slathering on SPF 400 creams every time they walk out to the mailbox.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30863374</id>
	<title>Grain of salt...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264154160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm going to take this with a large grain of salt here.  Does the publication in the British Medical Journal actually blame the rise on gaming, or is TFA simply adding the gaming aspect to it to generate a sensational article to post on a tech site with a large demographic who plays games.  TFA only has a link to the BMJ homepage.
<br> <br>
Oh, and obligatory: correlation does not imply causation</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm going to take this with a large grain of salt here .
Does the publication in the British Medical Journal actually blame the rise on gaming , or is TFA simply adding the gaming aspect to it to generate a sensational article to post on a tech site with a large demographic who plays games .
TFA only has a link to the BMJ homepage .
Oh , and obligatory : correlation does not imply causation</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm going to take this with a large grain of salt here.
Does the publication in the British Medical Journal actually blame the rise on gaming, or is TFA simply adding the gaming aspect to it to generate a sensational article to post on a tech site with a large demographic who plays games.
TFA only has a link to the BMJ homepage.
Oh, and obligatory: correlation does not imply causation</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30863934</id>
	<title>Re:Vitamin D deficiency does not cause rickets</title>
	<author>compro01</author>
	<datestamp>1264157100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Vitamin D deficiency tends to cause calcium deficiency.  The body can't properly absorb calcium without vitamin D.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Vitamin D deficiency tends to cause calcium deficiency .
The body ca n't properly absorb calcium without vitamin D .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Vitamin D deficiency tends to cause calcium deficiency.
The body can't properly absorb calcium without vitamin D.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30863350</id>
	<title>Hmm...</title>
	<author>fuzzyfuzzyfungus</author>
	<datestamp>1264154100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Our wikipedia overlords report that the suggested daily supplementation for individuals at risk of deficiency is only 25 micrograms. Unless the risks of overdose are particularly hairy, or are encountered at a dose particularly close to the suggested one, this seems like a problem that could be fairly easily solved by slight modifications to the food supply.<br> <br>

Or, heck, just make console controllers whose plastics slowly leach vitamin D into the greasy, sweaty, hands of the gamer kiddies....</htmltext>
<tokenext>Our wikipedia overlords report that the suggested daily supplementation for individuals at risk of deficiency is only 25 micrograms .
Unless the risks of overdose are particularly hairy , or are encountered at a dose particularly close to the suggested one , this seems like a problem that could be fairly easily solved by slight modifications to the food supply .
Or , heck , just make console controllers whose plastics slowly leach vitamin D into the greasy , sweaty , hands of the gamer kiddies... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Our wikipedia overlords report that the suggested daily supplementation for individuals at risk of deficiency is only 25 micrograms.
Unless the risks of overdose are particularly hairy, or are encountered at a dose particularly close to the suggested one, this seems like a problem that could be fairly easily solved by slight modifications to the food supply.
Or, heck, just make console controllers whose plastics slowly leach vitamin D into the greasy, sweaty, hands of the gamer kiddies....</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30866398</id>
	<title>Re:Hmm...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264174560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, it's obviously <strong>D</strong>oritos fault for not putting in enough vitamin D even though the name clearly suggests it's the apical basement gaming health food.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , it 's obviously Doritos fault for not putting in enough vitamin D even though the name clearly suggests it 's the apical basement gaming health food .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, it's obviously Doritos fault for not putting in enough vitamin D even though the name clearly suggests it's the apical basement gaming health food.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30864566</id>
	<title>Not enough sunlight...</title>
	<author>stewbacca</author>
	<datestamp>1264160040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...because they live in England.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...because they live in England .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...because they live in England.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30864128</id>
	<title>Re:Hmm...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264157880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Vitamin D is not really water soluble, so it's not necessarily easy to get into the food supply.  According to my nutritional biochemistry prof in college most of the Vitamin D added to non-fat milk doesn't dissolve and gets stuck on the processing equipment instead of getting in the milk itself.</p><p>Controllers leaching vitamin D might work better...</p><p>Vitamin metabolism is more complicated than most media report, so there may be some collateral difference between supplemental and sunlight-generated vitamin D (like some activating factor increasing the next step of metabolism, etc.)  Supplements might be better than nothing, but the sunlight's probably a better bet on this.</p><p>Maybe I've got to decrease my computer time and see the sky one of these days...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Vitamin D is not really water soluble , so it 's not necessarily easy to get into the food supply .
According to my nutritional biochemistry prof in college most of the Vitamin D added to non-fat milk does n't dissolve and gets stuck on the processing equipment instead of getting in the milk itself.Controllers leaching vitamin D might work better...Vitamin metabolism is more complicated than most media report , so there may be some collateral difference between supplemental and sunlight-generated vitamin D ( like some activating factor increasing the next step of metabolism , etc .
) Supplements might be better than nothing , but the sunlight 's probably a better bet on this.Maybe I 've got to decrease my computer time and see the sky one of these days.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Vitamin D is not really water soluble, so it's not necessarily easy to get into the food supply.
According to my nutritional biochemistry prof in college most of the Vitamin D added to non-fat milk doesn't dissolve and gets stuck on the processing equipment instead of getting in the milk itself.Controllers leaching vitamin D might work better...Vitamin metabolism is more complicated than most media report, so there may be some collateral difference between supplemental and sunlight-generated vitamin D (like some activating factor increasing the next step of metabolism, etc.
)  Supplements might be better than nothing, but the sunlight's probably a better bet on this.Maybe I've got to decrease my computer time and see the sky one of these days...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30863956</id>
	<title>Sunlight emitting gaming tanning salon displays</title>
	<author>PolygamousRanchKid </author>
	<datestamp>1264157160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Isn't this the obvious answer?  Keep your rickets in check, while enjoying your favorite game, while getting a great tan to impress that date, that you will never get . . .
</p><p>. . . might as well die of rickets:  Game fast, die young, leave a rickets infested corpse.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is n't this the obvious answer ?
Keep your rickets in check , while enjoying your favorite game , while getting a great tan to impress that date , that you will never get .
. .
. .
. might as well die of rickets : Game fast , die young , leave a rickets infested corpse .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Isn't this the obvious answer?
Keep your rickets in check, while enjoying your favorite game, while getting a great tan to impress that date, that you will never get .
. .
. .
. might as well die of rickets:  Game fast, die young, leave a rickets infested corpse.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30863428</id>
	<title>Sunlight is the key</title>
	<author>neurogeneticist</author>
	<datestamp>1264154460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>You need vitamin D, sunlight, and working kidneys in order to render it useful.

You can get all the vitamin D you want in your diet, but without sunlight, it cannot be converted into a usable form by the kidneys.  This is why they put northern Swedish and Norwegian kids under sun lamps for a few minutes every day.  Thankfully, you really only need a few minutes of direct sunlight to covert enough vitamin D to last a while.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You need vitamin D , sunlight , and working kidneys in order to render it useful .
You can get all the vitamin D you want in your diet , but without sunlight , it can not be converted into a usable form by the kidneys .
This is why they put northern Swedish and Norwegian kids under sun lamps for a few minutes every day .
Thankfully , you really only need a few minutes of direct sunlight to covert enough vitamin D to last a while .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You need vitamin D, sunlight, and working kidneys in order to render it useful.
You can get all the vitamin D you want in your diet, but without sunlight, it cannot be converted into a usable form by the kidneys.
This is why they put northern Swedish and Norwegian kids under sun lamps for a few minutes every day.
Thankfully, you really only need a few minutes of direct sunlight to covert enough vitamin D to last a while.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30863518</id>
	<title>Vitamin D deficiency does not cause rickets</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264155120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>http://bacteriality.com/2007/09/15/vitamind/#8</p><p>The alternative hypothesis about rickets and vitamin D that includes references to studies demonstrating rickets is caused by calcium deficiency not vitamin d deficiency.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //bacteriality.com/2007/09/15/vitamind/ # 8The alternative hypothesis about rickets and vitamin D that includes references to studies demonstrating rickets is caused by calcium deficiency not vitamin d deficiency .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://bacteriality.com/2007/09/15/vitamind/#8The alternative hypothesis about rickets and vitamin D that includes references to studies demonstrating rickets is caused by calcium deficiency not vitamin d deficiency.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30863526</id>
	<title>What is this "sunlight"?</title>
	<author>Cro Magnon</author>
	<datestamp>1264155120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The part of the country I'm in has been having snow, rain, wind, and hail for months.  Even if I were outdoors, I wouldn't get any of this mythical "sunlight" here.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The part of the country I 'm in has been having snow , rain , wind , and hail for months .
Even if I were outdoors , I would n't get any of this mythical " sunlight " here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The part of the country I'm in has been having snow, rain, wind, and hail for months.
Even if I were outdoors, I wouldn't get any of this mythical "sunlight" here.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30864280</id>
	<title>Re:Hmm...</title>
	<author>Bobfrankly1</author>
	<datestamp>1264158600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr></p><div class="quote"><p>... this seems like a problem that could be fairly easily solved by slight modifications to the food supply.</p></div><p>You mean like putting actual cheese in the cheesy poofs?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>... this seems like a problem that could be fairly easily solved by slight modifications to the food supply.You mean like putting actual cheese in the cheesy poofs ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext> ... this seems like a problem that could be fairly easily solved by slight modifications to the food supply.You mean like putting actual cheese in the cheesy poofs?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30863854</id>
	<title>Mod parent up; more on vitamin D</title>
	<author>Paul Fernhout</author>
	<datestamp>1264156680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Most people in the USA are vitamin D deficient, and it has been linked to depression, schizophrenia, obesity, diabetes, cancer, heart disease, autism, influenza, and more. More on getting the right level of vitamin D through using D3 gelcaps or other means:<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; <a href="http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/treatment.shtml" title="vitamindcouncil.org">http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/treatment.shtml</a> [vitamindcouncil.org]</p><p>Or another item on that blog on blood testing if you supplement:<br>
&nbsp; <a href="http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/2009/01/why-rda-for-vitamin-d.html" title="blogspot.com">http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/2009/01/why-rda-for-vitamin-d.html</a> [blogspot.com]</p><p>Another site:<br><a href="http://www.grassrootshealth.net/" title="grassrootshealth.net">http://www.grassrootshealth.net/</a> [grassrootshealth.net]</p><p>A quiz on vitamin D:<br><a href="http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2005/09/06/test-your-vitamin-d-knowledge.aspx" title="mercola.com">http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2005/09/06/test-your-vitamin-d-knowledge.aspx</a> [mercola.com]</p><p>"Might Influenza be Little More Than a Symptom of Vitamin D Deficiency?"<br><a href="http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/10/21/avoid-flu-shots-vitamin-d-is-a-better-way.aspx" title="mercola.com">http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/10/21/avoid-flu-shots-vitamin-d-is-a-better-way.aspx</a> [mercola.com]</p><p>Many people suggest the right amount of sun exposure may still be best, but it is hard to get. If you have darker skin and work indoors, it may be almost impossible even in summer to get enough sunlight far from the equator:<br><a href="http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/health/autism/the-black-community.shtml" title="vitamindcouncil.org">http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/health/autism/the-black-community.shtml</a> [vitamindcouncil.org]<br><a href="http://curtisduncan.blogspot.com/2009/10/why-michelle-obama-is-more-likely-to.html" title="blogspot.com">http://curtisduncan.blogspot.com/2009/10/why-michelle-obama-is-more-likely-to.html</a> [blogspot.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Most people in the USA are vitamin D deficient , and it has been linked to depression , schizophrenia , obesity , diabetes , cancer , heart disease , autism , influenza , and more .
More on getting the right level of vitamin D through using D3 gelcaps or other means :     http : //www.vitamindcouncil.org/treatment.shtml [ vitamindcouncil.org ] Or another item on that blog on blood testing if you supplement :   http : //heartscanblog.blogspot.com/2009/01/why-rda-for-vitamin-d.html [ blogspot.com ] Another site : http : //www.grassrootshealth.net/ [ grassrootshealth.net ] A quiz on vitamin D : http : //articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2005/09/06/test-your-vitamin-d-knowledge.aspx [ mercola.com ] " Might Influenza be Little More Than a Symptom of Vitamin D Deficiency ?
" http : //articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/10/21/avoid-flu-shots-vitamin-d-is-a-better-way.aspx [ mercola.com ] Many people suggest the right amount of sun exposure may still be best , but it is hard to get .
If you have darker skin and work indoors , it may be almost impossible even in summer to get enough sunlight far from the equator : http : //www.vitamindcouncil.org/health/autism/the-black-community.shtml [ vitamindcouncil.org ] http : //curtisduncan.blogspot.com/2009/10/why-michelle-obama-is-more-likely-to.html [ blogspot.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most people in the USA are vitamin D deficient, and it has been linked to depression, schizophrenia, obesity, diabetes, cancer, heart disease, autism, influenza, and more.
More on getting the right level of vitamin D through using D3 gelcaps or other means:
    http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/treatment.shtml [vitamindcouncil.org]Or another item on that blog on blood testing if you supplement:
  http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/2009/01/why-rda-for-vitamin-d.html [blogspot.com]Another site:http://www.grassrootshealth.net/ [grassrootshealth.net]A quiz on vitamin D:http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2005/09/06/test-your-vitamin-d-knowledge.aspx [mercola.com]"Might Influenza be Little More Than a Symptom of Vitamin D Deficiency?
"http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/10/21/avoid-flu-shots-vitamin-d-is-a-better-way.aspx [mercola.com]Many people suggest the right amount of sun exposure may still be best, but it is hard to get.
If you have darker skin and work indoors, it may be almost impossible even in summer to get enough sunlight far from the equator:http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/health/autism/the-black-community.shtml [vitamindcouncil.org]http://curtisduncan.blogspot.com/2009/10/why-michelle-obama-is-more-likely-to.html [blogspot.com]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30863316</id>
	<title>Via Wikipedia</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264153980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Rickets is a softening of bones in children potentially leading to fractures and deformity. Rickets is among the most frequent childhood diseases in many developing countries. The predominant cause is a vitamin D deficiency, but lack of adequate calcium in the diet may also lead to rickets (cases of severe diarrhea and vomiting may be the cause of the deficiency). Although it can occur in adults, the majority of cases occur in children suffering from severe malnutrition, usually resulting from famine or starvation during the early stages of childhood.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Rickets is a softening of bones in children potentially leading to fractures and deformity .
Rickets is among the most frequent childhood diseases in many developing countries .
The predominant cause is a vitamin D deficiency , but lack of adequate calcium in the diet may also lead to rickets ( cases of severe diarrhea and vomiting may be the cause of the deficiency ) .
Although it can occur in adults , the majority of cases occur in children suffering from severe malnutrition , usually resulting from famine or starvation during the early stages of childhood .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Rickets is a softening of bones in children potentially leading to fractures and deformity.
Rickets is among the most frequent childhood diseases in many developing countries.
The predominant cause is a vitamin D deficiency, but lack of adequate calcium in the diet may also lead to rickets (cases of severe diarrhea and vomiting may be the cause of the deficiency).
Although it can occur in adults, the majority of cases occur in children suffering from severe malnutrition, usually resulting from famine or starvation during the early stages of childhood.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30865478</id>
	<title>Re:Alrighty, clue me in</title>
	<author>ucblockhead</author>
	<datestamp>1264166580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes.  There are many chemical reactions that are catalyzed by photons.</p><p>That's how people tan.  That's how plants grow.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes .
There are many chemical reactions that are catalyzed by photons.That 's how people tan .
That 's how plants grow .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes.
There are many chemical reactions that are catalyzed by photons.That's how people tan.
That's how plants grow.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30864288</id>
	<title>Re:Iodized salt</title>
	<author>SydShamino</author>
	<datestamp>1264158600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And if you use Kosher salt at home, or sea salt, you don't get any iodine there either.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And if you use Kosher salt at home , or sea salt , you do n't get any iodine there either .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And if you use Kosher salt at home, or sea salt, you don't get any iodine there either.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30864550</id>
	<title>Full Spectrum Lights = Vitamin D</title>
	<author>mhajicek</author>
	<datestamp>1264159980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>After a little Googling I'm finding many "full spectrum" CFL bulbs the makers of which claim will help your body produce Vitamin D.</htmltext>
<tokenext>After a little Googling I 'm finding many " full spectrum " CFL bulbs the makers of which claim will help your body produce Vitamin D .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>After a little Googling I'm finding many "full spectrum" CFL bulbs the makers of which claim will help your body produce Vitamin D.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30863392</id>
	<title>Re:Milk?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264154220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And isn't a lot of the orange juice on the market vitamin D enriched?  I know both tropicana and florida's best have one that is basically milk that tastes like orange juice (although I like pulp so I never buy it).</htmltext>
<tokenext>And is n't a lot of the orange juice on the market vitamin D enriched ?
I know both tropicana and florida 's best have one that is basically milk that tastes like orange juice ( although I like pulp so I never buy it ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And isn't a lot of the orange juice on the market vitamin D enriched?
I know both tropicana and florida's best have one that is basically milk that tastes like orange juice (although I like pulp so I never buy it).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30864832</id>
	<title>I smell a business opportunity!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264161960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>LCD / Plasma / CRT tubes that radiate the appropriate UV spectrum to trigger Vitamin D synthesis in human skin.  Just make sure no one gets extra crispy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>LCD / Plasma / CRT tubes that radiate the appropriate UV spectrum to trigger Vitamin D synthesis in human skin .
Just make sure no one gets extra crispy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>LCD / Plasma / CRT tubes that radiate the appropriate UV spectrum to trigger Vitamin D synthesis in human skin.
Just make sure no one gets extra crispy.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30864264</id>
	<title>Citation Needed</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264158540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just throwing this out there, but the healthy level of vitamin D in the blood varies depending whether the body needs to be storing calcium in bones or removing calcium from bones (to prevent tetanus between meals, etc.)  Your level of 60 ng/mL should have some variance.  Also, the liver/skin stores of vitamin D are probably more important because of the relatively short functional lifetime of activated vitamin D.</p><p>Are there statistically robust data that show a reduced ability to synthesize vitamin D using sunlight.  It might be possible because of restricting our cholesterol, since you need that to make the vitamin D.  I am quite doubtful on this point, though.</p><p>Recommending 4,000 to 8,000 IU per day?  Again, statistically robust data.  That might be a good amount.  It might work for you.  It might work for people with impaired vitamin D metabolism.  But I'm not sure it's a good GENERAL guideline.  I'd want some studies on that, not just some doc's opinion.</p><p>D3 is, if I recall, more readily used by the body than D2, requiring fewer metabolic steps to be ready to use.</p><p>I would say the message is: if you're going to supplement Vitamin D, try D2 and D3 to see which works best.  Try a bunch of doses to see what's helpful.  Try spending more time in the sun.  Whatever works best, go with that.</p><p>Above and beyond that, your post is really fishy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just throwing this out there , but the healthy level of vitamin D in the blood varies depending whether the body needs to be storing calcium in bones or removing calcium from bones ( to prevent tetanus between meals , etc .
) Your level of 60 ng/mL should have some variance .
Also , the liver/skin stores of vitamin D are probably more important because of the relatively short functional lifetime of activated vitamin D.Are there statistically robust data that show a reduced ability to synthesize vitamin D using sunlight .
It might be possible because of restricting our cholesterol , since you need that to make the vitamin D. I am quite doubtful on this point , though.Recommending 4,000 to 8,000 IU per day ?
Again , statistically robust data .
That might be a good amount .
It might work for you .
It might work for people with impaired vitamin D metabolism .
But I 'm not sure it 's a good GENERAL guideline .
I 'd want some studies on that , not just some doc 's opinion.D3 is , if I recall , more readily used by the body than D2 , requiring fewer metabolic steps to be ready to use.I would say the message is : if you 're going to supplement Vitamin D , try D2 and D3 to see which works best .
Try a bunch of doses to see what 's helpful .
Try spending more time in the sun .
Whatever works best , go with that.Above and beyond that , your post is really fishy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just throwing this out there, but the healthy level of vitamin D in the blood varies depending whether the body needs to be storing calcium in bones or removing calcium from bones (to prevent tetanus between meals, etc.
)  Your level of 60 ng/mL should have some variance.
Also, the liver/skin stores of vitamin D are probably more important because of the relatively short functional lifetime of activated vitamin D.Are there statistically robust data that show a reduced ability to synthesize vitamin D using sunlight.
It might be possible because of restricting our cholesterol, since you need that to make the vitamin D.  I am quite doubtful on this point, though.Recommending 4,000 to 8,000 IU per day?
Again, statistically robust data.
That might be a good amount.
It might work for you.
It might work for people with impaired vitamin D metabolism.
But I'm not sure it's a good GENERAL guideline.
I'd want some studies on that, not just some doc's opinion.D3 is, if I recall, more readily used by the body than D2, requiring fewer metabolic steps to be ready to use.I would say the message is: if you're going to supplement Vitamin D, try D2 and D3 to see which works best.
Try a bunch of doses to see what's helpful.
Try spending more time in the sun.
Whatever works best, go with that.Above and beyond that, your post is really fishy.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30864318</id>
	<title>Re:Hmm...</title>
	<author>Bobfrankly1</author>
	<datestamp>1264158720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Or they could just go outside for 10 minutes a day *gasp* without sunscreen.  Crazy, I know (and not necissarily effective in certain latitudes during the winter) but it would solve the problem very easily, no changes needed.</p></div><p>This "outside" would be a change, and I don't deal with change easily. The homeless on the other hand, are always looking for change. "Change?" "chaaaaaange"</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Or they could just go outside for 10 minutes a day * gasp * without sunscreen .
Crazy , I know ( and not necissarily effective in certain latitudes during the winter ) but it would solve the problem very easily , no changes needed.This " outside " would be a change , and I do n't deal with change easily .
The homeless on the other hand , are always looking for change .
" Change ? " " chaaaaaange "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or they could just go outside for 10 minutes a day *gasp* without sunscreen.
Crazy, I know (and not necissarily effective in certain latitudes during the winter) but it would solve the problem very easily, no changes needed.This "outside" would be a change, and I don't deal with change easily.
The homeless on the other hand, are always looking for change.
"Change?" "chaaaaaange"
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30863904</id>
	<title>Re:Hmm...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264156920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>you'll have to supplement with the animal version of vitamin D, which is the <b>liquid softgel Vitamin D3</b>, and <i>not</i> the hard tablet D2 that's made from plant matter.</p></div><p>All of my hard tablets say "D3" on their labels.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>you 'll have to supplement with the animal version of vitamin D , which is the liquid softgel Vitamin D3 , and not the hard tablet D2 that 's made from plant matter.All of my hard tablets say " D3 " on their labels .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>you'll have to supplement with the animal version of vitamin D, which is the liquid softgel Vitamin D3, and not the hard tablet D2 that's made from plant matter.All of my hard tablets say "D3" on their labels.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30864368</id>
	<title>Re:If people stayed in their house all day and gam</title>
	<author>Bobfrankly1</author>
	<datestamp>1264158900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Wouldn't there also be a sizable drop in the percentages of STD's contracted, unplanned pregnancies, traffic accidents, drunk and disorderly conduct, and homicides?</p></div><p>I suppose that would entirely depend on what you are gaming...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Would n't there also be a sizable drop in the percentages of STD 's contracted , unplanned pregnancies , traffic accidents , drunk and disorderly conduct , and homicides ? I suppose that would entirely depend on what you are gaming.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wouldn't there also be a sizable drop in the percentages of STD's contracted, unplanned pregnancies, traffic accidents, drunk and disorderly conduct, and homicides?I suppose that would entirely depend on what you are gaming...
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30863480</id>
	<title>Re:Hmm...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264154820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or, oh, I don't know..... <i>get kids up off their fucking asses and outside to actually <b>do something</b> with their lives once in a while</i>.</p><p>Kids, listen up: You're probably gonna end up in a job where you sit on your ass in front of a computer for 40 hours a week. If you don't take advantage of this period of your life to do something other than what you're going to end up being paid to do down the road, <i>it will be a short and unpleasant life</i>.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or , oh , I do n't know..... get kids up off their fucking asses and outside to actually do something with their lives once in a while.Kids , listen up : You 're probably gon na end up in a job where you sit on your ass in front of a computer for 40 hours a week .
If you do n't take advantage of this period of your life to do something other than what you 're going to end up being paid to do down the road , it will be a short and unpleasant life .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or, oh, I don't know..... get kids up off their fucking asses and outside to actually do something with their lives once in a while.Kids, listen up: You're probably gonna end up in a job where you sit on your ass in front of a computer for 40 hours a week.
If you don't take advantage of this period of your life to do something other than what you're going to end up being paid to do down the road, it will be a short and unpleasant life.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30863790</id>
	<title>Re:I can see the next new game drink... DDrink!</title>
	<author>hondo77</author>
	<datestamp>1264156440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I used to get a double dose of D all the time but that was when I was a newlywed. Twenty years later, now I hardly get any DD.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I used to get a double dose of D all the time but that was when I was a newlywed .
Twenty years later , now I hardly get any DD .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I used to get a double dose of D all the time but that was when I was a newlywed.
Twenty years later, now I hardly get any DD.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30865098</id>
	<title>Re:Hmm...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264164120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Would you STFU and stop plugging your blogs! this is the 5th time for christ sakes!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Would you STFU and stop plugging your blogs !
this is the 5th time for christ sakes !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Would you STFU and stop plugging your blogs!
this is the 5th time for christ sakes!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30863502</id>
	<title>Alrighty, clue me in</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264154940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm sure this works, just not how.</p><p>Sunlight is photons.  Energy.  Vitamin D is matter.  Vitamin D can't literally be in the sunlight.</p><p>Does sunlight just cause the body to produce vitamin D, or what?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sure this works , just not how.Sunlight is photons .
Energy. Vitamin D is matter .
Vitamin D ca n't literally be in the sunlight.Does sunlight just cause the body to produce vitamin D , or what ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sure this works, just not how.Sunlight is photons.
Energy.  Vitamin D is matter.
Vitamin D can't literally be in the sunlight.Does sunlight just cause the body to produce vitamin D, or what?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_22_174240.30863534</id>
	<title>Re:Milk?</title>
	<author>Renraku</author>
	<datestamp>1264155180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't listen to those people.  You do NOT need sunlight to get vitamin D.  Vitamin D is produced by your body when the high energy photons in sunlight break apart some chemical bonds in your skin and vitamin D is one of the results.  However, it has also been isolated and produced externally for many decades.  The vitamin D that you intake is almost as effective as the vitamin D produced by the sun.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't listen to those people .
You do NOT need sunlight to get vitamin D. Vitamin D is produced by your body when the high energy photons in sunlight break apart some chemical bonds in your skin and vitamin D is one of the results .
However , it has also been isolated and produced externally for many decades .
The vitamin D that you intake is almost as effective as the vitamin D produced by the sun .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't listen to those people.
You do NOT need sunlight to get vitamin D.  Vitamin D is produced by your body when the high energy photons in sunlight break apart some chemical bonds in your skin and vitamin D is one of the results.
However, it has also been isolated and produced externally for many decades.
The vitamin D that you intake is almost as effective as the vitamin D produced by the sun.</sentencetext>
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