<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_01_21_1439201</id>
	<title>European Commission Approves Oracle-Sun Merger</title>
	<author>CmdrTaco</author>
	<datestamp>1264086000000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>rubycodez writes <i>"The anti-trust body of the EU, the European Commission, has <a href="http://www.informationweek.com/news/software/database/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=222400062&amp;subSection=News">approved Oracle's acquisition</a> of Sun Microsystems, believing competition would be preserved.  It saw PostgreSQL as a viable independent alternative to MySQL and that market access to Java would not be restricted.  Uncertainty about Sun's future has cost over a billion dollars in lost sales in the past year."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>rubycodez writes " The anti-trust body of the EU , the European Commission , has approved Oracle 's acquisition of Sun Microsystems , believing competition would be preserved .
It saw PostgreSQL as a viable independent alternative to MySQL and that market access to Java would not be restricted .
Uncertainty about Sun 's future has cost over a billion dollars in lost sales in the past year .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>rubycodez writes "The anti-trust body of the EU, the European Commission, has approved Oracle's acquisition of Sun Microsystems, believing competition would be preserved.
It saw PostgreSQL as a viable independent alternative to MySQL and that market access to Java would not be restricted.
Uncertainty about Sun's future has cost over a billion dollars in lost sales in the past year.
"</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30847126</id>
	<title>Calm down ... MySQL is safe as houses</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264095000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I work for Oracle and have seen this many times<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... Oracle buys companies on a fairly regular basis (including the one I used to work for).  So, let me give you my 0.02.  Oracle isn't going to kill or marginalize MySQL.  Oracle will use MySQL as a lever to sell support contracts and middleware products used for reporting, web application development, data analysis, etc, etc..  Oracle has a dizzying array or software products, and now they have hardware too, and having a low-cost database that customers can use in conjunction with our other products is beautiful.  Most of the panicked comments above seem to assume that Oracle and MySQL are direct competitors.  Sorry, but they aren't, and the people making those comments probably don't have any experience with Oracle's Database (how and why it's used as opposed to other products).  Anyway, calm down<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... MySQL is safe as houses.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I work for Oracle and have seen this many times ... Oracle buys companies on a fairly regular basis ( including the one I used to work for ) .
So , let me give you my 0.02 .
Oracle is n't going to kill or marginalize MySQL .
Oracle will use MySQL as a lever to sell support contracts and middleware products used for reporting , web application development , data analysis , etc , etc.. Oracle has a dizzying array or software products , and now they have hardware too , and having a low-cost database that customers can use in conjunction with our other products is beautiful .
Most of the panicked comments above seem to assume that Oracle and MySQL are direct competitors .
Sorry , but they are n't , and the people making those comments probably do n't have any experience with Oracle 's Database ( how and why it 's used as opposed to other products ) .
Anyway , calm down ... MySQL is safe as houses .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I work for Oracle and have seen this many times ... Oracle buys companies on a fairly regular basis (including the one I used to work for).
So, let me give you my 0.02.
Oracle isn't going to kill or marginalize MySQL.
Oracle will use MySQL as a lever to sell support contracts and middleware products used for reporting, web application development, data analysis, etc, etc..  Oracle has a dizzying array or software products, and now they have hardware too, and having a low-cost database that customers can use in conjunction with our other products is beautiful.
Most of the panicked comments above seem to assume that Oracle and MySQL are direct competitors.
Sorry, but they aren't, and the people making those comments probably don't have any experience with Oracle's Database (how and why it's used as opposed to other products).
Anyway, calm down ... MySQL is safe as houses.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30846054</id>
	<title>My honest response was...</title>
	<author>Zarf</author>
	<datestamp>1264090200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Oh no, not again!"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Oh no , not again !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Oh no, not again!
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30846154</id>
	<title>Re:Time to get more familiar with PostgreSQL</title>
	<author>jmerlin</author>
	<datestamp>1264090560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Time to get our forks ready tbqh.  What's odd is the latest GA install of community server on mysql.com doesn't work on win7 64bit.  I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't work on 32bit either, though 5.5 and a slightly older 5.1 work fine.  Coincidence, or a glimpse of the future?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Time to get our forks ready tbqh .
What 's odd is the latest GA install of community server on mysql.com does n't work on win7 64bit .
I would n't be surprised if it did n't work on 32bit either , though 5.5 and a slightly older 5.1 work fine .
Coincidence , or a glimpse of the future ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Time to get our forks ready tbqh.
What's odd is the latest GA install of community server on mysql.com doesn't work on win7 64bit.
I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't work on 32bit either, though 5.5 and a slightly older 5.1 work fine.
Coincidence, or a glimpse of the future?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30845994</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30849550</id>
	<title>Re:Forget MySQL, What about GlassFish and NetBeans</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264105140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A lot of people in the NetBeans group in Prague (primary development center) was laid off last week... So guess what would happen next...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A lot of people in the NetBeans group in Prague ( primary development center ) was laid off last week... So guess what would happen next.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A lot of people in the NetBeans group in Prague (primary development center) was laid off last week... So guess what would happen next...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30846070</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30850104</id>
	<title>lies coming in 3, 2, 1</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264107480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We all know how Oracle will "develop" mysql in the future. Oracle will make it hard to use in any way possible. MySQL has not gained it's market share becuase of its (lack of) technical features, it gained market share becuase it was easy to use. Oracle DB is the opposite. Expensive to buy, hard to install, hard to develop for, hard to maintenance. Hard in every way. This is where MySQL will be in 5 years. No one wants to use a feature less DB that's hard to use. Oracle will of course claim every change is made in the users best interests. As always.</p><p>Products which use mysql will not switch soon though. Because there isn't currently any easy to use db on the market (maybe mssql express). Postgresql is a joke when it comes to user friendliness.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We all know how Oracle will " develop " mysql in the future .
Oracle will make it hard to use in any way possible .
MySQL has not gained it 's market share becuase of its ( lack of ) technical features , it gained market share becuase it was easy to use .
Oracle DB is the opposite .
Expensive to buy , hard to install , hard to develop for , hard to maintenance .
Hard in every way .
This is where MySQL will be in 5 years .
No one wants to use a feature less DB that 's hard to use .
Oracle will of course claim every change is made in the users best interests .
As always.Products which use mysql will not switch soon though .
Because there is n't currently any easy to use db on the market ( maybe mssql express ) .
Postgresql is a joke when it comes to user friendliness .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We all know how Oracle will "develop" mysql in the future.
Oracle will make it hard to use in any way possible.
MySQL has not gained it's market share becuase of its (lack of) technical features, it gained market share becuase it was easy to use.
Oracle DB is the opposite.
Expensive to buy, hard to install, hard to develop for, hard to maintenance.
Hard in every way.
This is where MySQL will be in 5 years.
No one wants to use a feature less DB that's hard to use.
Oracle will of course claim every change is made in the users best interests.
As always.Products which use mysql will not switch soon though.
Because there isn't currently any easy to use db on the market (maybe mssql express).
Postgresql is a joke when it comes to user friendliness.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30870270</id>
	<title>January 27th - Oracle Announces What Lives&amp;Die</title>
	<author>rubycodez</author>
	<datestamp>1264268220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>January 27th, Sun product fan-boi Geeks the world over who have been fretting, "but they *can't* kill my favorite Sun thing and fire the engineers for it because of x,y, and z" will find their X through Z reasons run through the wood chipper</p><p><a href="http://content.usatoday.com/communities/technologylive/post/2010/01/sun-setting-on-jobs/1" title="usatoday.com">http://content.usatoday.com/communities/technologylive/post/2010/01/sun-setting-on-jobs/1</a> [usatoday.com]</p><p>Going to be a great splatter-fest, stay tuned.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>January 27th , Sun product fan-boi Geeks the world over who have been fretting , " but they * ca n't * kill my favorite Sun thing and fire the engineers for it because of x,y , and z " will find their X through Z reasons run through the wood chipperhttp : //content.usatoday.com/communities/technologylive/post/2010/01/sun-setting-on-jobs/1 [ usatoday.com ] Going to be a great splatter-fest , stay tuned .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>January 27th, Sun product fan-boi Geeks the world over who have been fretting, "but they *can't* kill my favorite Sun thing and fire the engineers for it because of x,y, and z" will find their X through Z reasons run through the wood chipperhttp://content.usatoday.com/communities/technologylive/post/2010/01/sun-setting-on-jobs/1 [usatoday.com]Going to be a great splatter-fest, stay tuned.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30846374</id>
	<title>MySQL's future</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264091580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have worked on projects that have thrown out Oracle in small/medium business setups (before the acquisition) in favor of MySQL. And yes, I do believe that MySQL clustering can be a well performing product. Now, the mistake started with the reliance of the InnoDB engine. What I will miss is the skill of the core MySQL developers (?) to work on non standard engines (like the Federated engine). Oracle makes the big money from large installations. Small to Medium sized demanding businesses have still a lot of ground to cover....And no, unfortunately, I have seen Postgres going horribly wrong, so it is not an option for my production environment.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have worked on projects that have thrown out Oracle in small/medium business setups ( before the acquisition ) in favor of MySQL .
And yes , I do believe that MySQL clustering can be a well performing product .
Now , the mistake started with the reliance of the InnoDB engine .
What I will miss is the skill of the core MySQL developers ( ?
) to work on non standard engines ( like the Federated engine ) .
Oracle makes the big money from large installations .
Small to Medium sized demanding businesses have still a lot of ground to cover....And no , unfortunately , I have seen Postgres going horribly wrong , so it is not an option for my production environment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have worked on projects that have thrown out Oracle in small/medium business setups (before the acquisition) in favor of MySQL.
And yes, I do believe that MySQL clustering can be a well performing product.
Now, the mistake started with the reliance of the InnoDB engine.
What I will miss is the skill of the core MySQL developers (?
) to work on non standard engines (like the Federated engine).
Oracle makes the big money from large installations.
Small to Medium sized demanding businesses have still a lot of ground to cover....And no, unfortunately, I have seen Postgres going horribly wrong, so it is not an option for my production environment.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30846432</id>
	<title>Re:Forget MySQL, What about GlassFish and NetBeans</title>
	<author>Xest</author>
	<datestamp>1264091820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, I'd really miss Netbeans, it's definitely my favourite IDE after Visual Studio on any platform and my first choice for Java development also.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , I 'd really miss Netbeans , it 's definitely my favourite IDE after Visual Studio on any platform and my first choice for Java development also .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, I'd really miss Netbeans, it's definitely my favourite IDE after Visual Studio on any platform and my first choice for Java development also.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30846070</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30848486</id>
	<title>Re:$1 Billion out the window, down the tubes, bye-</title>
	<author>wiredlogic</author>
	<datestamp>1264100340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'm firmly of the opinion that IBM's major interest was in acquiring and converting SUN's existing enterprise userbase.</p></div><p>IBM wanted control over Java. The rest of the Sun business was dying anyway.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm firmly of the opinion that IBM 's major interest was in acquiring and converting SUN 's existing enterprise userbase.IBM wanted control over Java .
The rest of the Sun business was dying anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm firmly of the opinion that IBM's major interest was in acquiring and converting SUN's existing enterprise userbase.IBM wanted control over Java.
The rest of the Sun business was dying anyway.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30846262</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30846350</id>
	<title>Re:Forget MySQL, What about GlassFish and NetBeans</title>
	<author>characterZer0</author>
	<datestamp>1264091460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hopefully they will keep them around. Both Oracle and IBM pushing Java is a bigger threat to Microsoft than Linux at the moment.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hopefully they will keep them around .
Both Oracle and IBM pushing Java is a bigger threat to Microsoft than Linux at the moment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hopefully they will keep them around.
Both Oracle and IBM pushing Java is a bigger threat to Microsoft than Linux at the moment.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30846070</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30846004</id>
	<title>Monty</title>
	<author>heffel</author>
	<datestamp>1264089960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Monty is going to have a fit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Monty is going to have a fit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Monty is going to have a fit.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30846776</id>
	<title>Re:Time to get more familiar with PostgreSQL</title>
	<author>thetoadwarrior</author>
	<datestamp>1264093440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't think Oracle will be a problem. However you should look at Postgre because it is good and it will stick to a certain guy who thought he could sell his DB to Sun and get it back for free.
<br> <br>
Ignoring any pettiness though, do check out Postgre. I think it's quite nice.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't think Oracle will be a problem .
However you should look at Postgre because it is good and it will stick to a certain guy who thought he could sell his DB to Sun and get it back for free .
Ignoring any pettiness though , do check out Postgre .
I think it 's quite nice .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't think Oracle will be a problem.
However you should look at Postgre because it is good and it will stick to a certain guy who thought he could sell his DB to Sun and get it back for free.
Ignoring any pettiness though, do check out Postgre.
I think it's quite nice.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30845994</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30846478</id>
	<title>Re:Forget MySQL, What about GlassFish and NetBeans</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264092000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The biguest competition against Oracle Weblogic (formerly BEA Weblogic) in the J2EE Application Server space is Websphere by IBM, not GlassFish.</p><p>The mostly widelly used IDE for Java development is Eclipse (which is open source), NetBeans is not even a second, maybe a far 3rd or worse.</p><p>I've been working professionally with Java for 12 years and I can't see how anybody can see GlassFish or NetBeans as at all important in the Java space: the truth is that while Sun's Java language and standard libraries are quite successfull their tools and framework implementations never do take off (even though they keep pushing them year-in-year-out by offering them bundled with the Java SE and Java EE SDKs).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The biguest competition against Oracle Weblogic ( formerly BEA Weblogic ) in the J2EE Application Server space is Websphere by IBM , not GlassFish.The mostly widelly used IDE for Java development is Eclipse ( which is open source ) , NetBeans is not even a second , maybe a far 3rd or worse.I 've been working professionally with Java for 12 years and I ca n't see how anybody can see GlassFish or NetBeans as at all important in the Java space : the truth is that while Sun 's Java language and standard libraries are quite successfull their tools and framework implementations never do take off ( even though they keep pushing them year-in-year-out by offering them bundled with the Java SE and Java EE SDKs ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The biguest competition against Oracle Weblogic (formerly BEA Weblogic) in the J2EE Application Server space is Websphere by IBM, not GlassFish.The mostly widelly used IDE for Java development is Eclipse (which is open source), NetBeans is not even a second, maybe a far 3rd or worse.I've been working professionally with Java for 12 years and I can't see how anybody can see GlassFish or NetBeans as at all important in the Java space: the truth is that while Sun's Java language and standard libraries are quite successfull their tools and framework implementations never do take off (even though they keep pushing them year-in-year-out by offering them bundled with the Java SE and Java EE SDKs).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30846070</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30847604</id>
	<title>I find it interesting that Oracle did not ....</title>
	<author>WindBourne</author>
	<datestamp>1264096740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>offer to spin off mysql. Perhaps after a few years. It would seem that if their intentions was to acquire Solaris and that market, they would have offered mysql up. However,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.....</htmltext>
<tokenext>offer to spin off mysql .
Perhaps after a few years .
It would seem that if their intentions was to acquire Solaris and that market , they would have offered mysql up .
However , .... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>offer to spin off mysql.
Perhaps after a few years.
It would seem that if their intentions was to acquire Solaris and that market, they would have offered mysql up.
However, .....</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30846938</id>
	<title>Great Idea!</title>
	<author>mandark1967</author>
	<datestamp>1264094220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I for one am totally in favor of merging Oracle with the Sun. Oh wait...they meant the "other" Sun...damn<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:(</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I for one am totally in favor of merging Oracle with the Sun .
Oh wait...they meant the " other " Sun...damn : (</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I for one am totally in favor of merging Oracle with the Sun.
Oh wait...they meant the "other" Sun...damn :(</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30846308</id>
	<title>Is there any evidence for the cost of lost sales?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264091220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Uncertainty about Sun's future has cost over a billion dollars in lost sales in the past year"</p><p>Is this extrapolated from the yaught-wielding one's remark about losing 100million a day?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Uncertainty about Sun 's future has cost over a billion dollars in lost sales in the past year " Is this extrapolated from the yaught-wielding one 's remark about losing 100million a day ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Uncertainty about Sun's future has cost over a billion dollars in lost sales in the past year"Is this extrapolated from the yaught-wielding one's remark about losing 100million a day?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30846468</id>
	<title>Re:Time to get more familiar with PostgreSQL</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264091940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>well, I knew MS was deep rooted at slashdot, but I didn't know they employed people in the 7000 UID.</p><p>What's worse, MySQL being kept alive by oracle, or being owned by MS? Oh right, lets decry MySQL supposedly dying.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>well , I knew MS was deep rooted at slashdot , but I did n't know they employed people in the 7000 UID.What 's worse , MySQL being kept alive by oracle , or being owned by MS ?
Oh right , lets decry MySQL supposedly dying .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>well, I knew MS was deep rooted at slashdot, but I didn't know they employed people in the 7000 UID.What's worse, MySQL being kept alive by oracle, or being owned by MS?
Oh right, lets decry MySQL supposedly dying.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30845994</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30857246</id>
	<title>European Commission</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264193520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm just wandering why do they even need permission to do the business from some European Commission anyway who are they anyway its none of their business what 2 people do and who buys what, if i own a building i can buy another building its none of their business what i do, both Companies in America anyway why do you even listen to some European Commission just tell the to get lost mind your own European business and do their thing in Europe i don't get it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm just wandering why do they even need permission to do the business from some European Commission anyway who are they anyway its none of their business what 2 people do and who buys what , if i own a building i can buy another building its none of their business what i do , both Companies in America anyway why do you even listen to some European Commission just tell the to get lost mind your own European business and do their thing in Europe i do n't get it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm just wandering why do they even need permission to do the business from some European Commission anyway who are they anyway its none of their business what 2 people do and who buys what, if i own a building i can buy another building its none of their business what i do, both Companies in America anyway why do you even listen to some European Commission just tell the to get lost mind your own European business and do their thing in Europe i don't get it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30846444</id>
	<title>YuO Fail It?!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264091880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><A HREF="http://goat.cx/" title="goat.cx" rel="nofollow">downward spiral. indecisi0n and</a> [goat.cx]</htmltext>
<tokenext>downward spiral .
indecisi0n and [ goat.cx ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>downward spiral.
indecisi0n and [goat.cx]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30849924</id>
	<title>Re:Rrrreally</title>
	<author>afabbro</author>
	<datestamp>1264106700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p><div class="quote"><p>Uncertainty about Sun's future has cost over a billion dollars in lost sales in the past year.</p></div><p>Uh.. Citation needed, uhu.</p></div><p>No it isn't.  This isn't Wikipedia.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Uncertainty about Sun 's future has cost over a billion dollars in lost sales in the past year.Uh.. Citation needed , uhu.No it is n't .
This is n't Wikipedia .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Uncertainty about Sun's future has cost over a billion dollars in lost sales in the past year.Uh.. Citation needed, uhu.No it isn't.
This isn't Wikipedia.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30847234</id>
	<title>Re:Monty</title>
	<author>citab</author>
	<datestamp>1264095420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sorry<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... WTH is Monty?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sorry ... WTH is Monty ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sorry ... WTH is Monty?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30848328</id>
	<title>European Commission</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264099740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Guys, "The anti-trust body of the EU, the European Commission" is so wrong because is so misleading. Yes, the European Commissions is in charge with anti-trust cases, and many others. The European Commissions is the de-facto EU Government, and is in charge of so many other and more important thing than just anti-trust. Would you have write an article starting like "The anti-trust body of the USA, the US Government..."? A correct introduction would have been "The Directorate General for Competition, the anti-trust body of the EU,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>..." or simply "The European Commissions today announced...".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Guys , " The anti-trust body of the EU , the European Commission " is so wrong because is so misleading .
Yes , the European Commissions is in charge with anti-trust cases , and many others .
The European Commissions is the de-facto EU Government , and is in charge of so many other and more important thing than just anti-trust .
Would you have write an article starting like " The anti-trust body of the USA , the US Government... " ?
A correct introduction would have been " The Directorate General for Competition , the anti-trust body of the EU , ... " or simply " The European Commissions today announced... " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Guys, "The anti-trust body of the EU, the European Commission" is so wrong because is so misleading.
Yes, the European Commissions is in charge with anti-trust cases, and many others.
The European Commissions is the de-facto EU Government, and is in charge of so many other and more important thing than just anti-trust.
Would you have write an article starting like "The anti-trust body of the USA, the US Government..."?
A correct introduction would have been "The Directorate General for Competition, the anti-trust body of the EU, ..." or simply "The European Commissions today announced...".</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30846088</id>
	<title>Re:Time to get more familiar with PostgreSQL</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264090320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That would be fairly stupid of them.  You don't survive as a company for so long as Oracle has by making those kind of decisions.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That would be fairly stupid of them .
You do n't survive as a company for so long as Oracle has by making those kind of decisions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That would be fairly stupid of them.
You don't survive as a company for so long as Oracle has by making those kind of decisions.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30847976</id>
	<title>Re:MySQL</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264098240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just easier to use?</p><p>Yeah, I've heard that many times. What I have not yet heard though is exactly what it is that makes it "easier to use".</p><p>Maybe you can tell me?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just easier to use ? Yeah , I 've heard that many times .
What I have not yet heard though is exactly what it is that makes it " easier to use " .Maybe you can tell me ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just easier to use?Yeah, I've heard that many times.
What I have not yet heard though is exactly what it is that makes it "easier to use".Maybe you can tell me?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30846358</id>
	<title>Re:Time to get more familiar with PostgreSQL</title>
	<author>EvilAlphonso</author>
	<datestamp>1264091460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why go through the expense of Oracle-ing MySQL when the product you describe is already in the portfolio: <a href="http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/database/xe/index.html" title="oracle.com">http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/database/xe/index.html</a> [oracle.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why go through the expense of Oracle-ing MySQL when the product you describe is already in the portfolio : http : //www.oracle.com/technology/products/database/xe/index.html [ oracle.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why go through the expense of Oracle-ing MySQL when the product you describe is already in the portfolio: http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/database/xe/index.html [oracle.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30845994</id>
	<title>Time to get more familiar with PostgreSQL</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264089900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oracle is sure to kill or marginalize MySQL. Rest in peace my old friend.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oracle is sure to kill or marginalize MySQL .
Rest in peace my old friend .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oracle is sure to kill or marginalize MySQL.
Rest in peace my old friend.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30846588</id>
	<title>Re:Forget MySQL, What about GlassFish and NetBeans</title>
	<author>ExE122</author>
	<datestamp>1264092480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>GlassFish competes directly with Oracle AS, and Weblogic (which Oracle acquired through BEA's acquisition a while back).
<br> <br>
NetBeans competes directly with Oracle's JDeveloper.
<br> <br>
I wonder if Oracle will keep these tools around. Personally, I think Oracle would be a fool not to. The NetBeans/GlassFish combo is by far the most productive way to develop server side Java Applications.</p></div><p>I agree, and I don't think Oracle will be pulling the plug on these.  Some of these technologies might get integrated, and some will probably just continue on.
<br> <br>
Look at how they've handled BEA.  They have silently admitted that WebLogic is superior, but are still integrating it with some components of OAS to make an even better product.  I think we can probably expect something similar with their IDEs.
<br> <br>
As far as Glassfish/MySQL... I really don't think they will get rid of these either.  WebLogic/OracleDB are powerful (and expensive) enterprise class closed-source products.  However, there will still be a large community of open-source developers that Oracle will probably want to hang on to.  This should allow Glassfish/MySQL to live on.
<br> <br>
I think if they do for whatever reason try to get rid of these, there will be a huge migration of developers to other FOSS products, ultimately leading to more competition for Oracle.
<br> <br>
What I'm really curious about is the O/S and server fronts.  "Oracle Solaris" and "Oracle Fire" just don't sound right.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>GlassFish competes directly with Oracle AS , and Weblogic ( which Oracle acquired through BEA 's acquisition a while back ) .
NetBeans competes directly with Oracle 's JDeveloper .
I wonder if Oracle will keep these tools around .
Personally , I think Oracle would be a fool not to .
The NetBeans/GlassFish combo is by far the most productive way to develop server side Java Applications.I agree , and I do n't think Oracle will be pulling the plug on these .
Some of these technologies might get integrated , and some will probably just continue on .
Look at how they 've handled BEA .
They have silently admitted that WebLogic is superior , but are still integrating it with some components of OAS to make an even better product .
I think we can probably expect something similar with their IDEs .
As far as Glassfish/MySQL... I really do n't think they will get rid of these either .
WebLogic/OracleDB are powerful ( and expensive ) enterprise class closed-source products .
However , there will still be a large community of open-source developers that Oracle will probably want to hang on to .
This should allow Glassfish/MySQL to live on .
I think if they do for whatever reason try to get rid of these , there will be a huge migration of developers to other FOSS products , ultimately leading to more competition for Oracle .
What I 'm really curious about is the O/S and server fronts .
" Oracle Solaris " and " Oracle Fire " just do n't sound right .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>GlassFish competes directly with Oracle AS, and Weblogic (which Oracle acquired through BEA's acquisition a while back).
NetBeans competes directly with Oracle's JDeveloper.
I wonder if Oracle will keep these tools around.
Personally, I think Oracle would be a fool not to.
The NetBeans/GlassFish combo is by far the most productive way to develop server side Java Applications.I agree, and I don't think Oracle will be pulling the plug on these.
Some of these technologies might get integrated, and some will probably just continue on.
Look at how they've handled BEA.
They have silently admitted that WebLogic is superior, but are still integrating it with some components of OAS to make an even better product.
I think we can probably expect something similar with their IDEs.
As far as Glassfish/MySQL... I really don't think they will get rid of these either.
WebLogic/OracleDB are powerful (and expensive) enterprise class closed-source products.
However, there will still be a large community of open-source developers that Oracle will probably want to hang on to.
This should allow Glassfish/MySQL to live on.
I think if they do for whatever reason try to get rid of these, there will be a huge migration of developers to other FOSS products, ultimately leading to more competition for Oracle.
What I'm really curious about is the O/S and server fronts.
"Oracle Solaris" and "Oracle Fire" just don't sound right.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30846758</id>
	<title>No, there is Oracle Express free of charge</title>
	<author>advid.net</author>
	<datestamp>1264093380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>market MySQL heavily as a lightweight, easy databse for companies and organizations that can't justify the cost of Oracle for their database needs</p></div><p>Oracle has already a free (as in beer) database : <b>Oracle Express.</b> <br>
 It was tailored to replace MySQL, a few years before this buy out.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>market MySQL heavily as a lightweight , easy databse for companies and organizations that ca n't justify the cost of Oracle for their database needsOracle has already a free ( as in beer ) database : Oracle Express .
It was tailored to replace MySQL , a few years before this buy out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>market MySQL heavily as a lightweight, easy databse for companies and organizations that can't justify the cost of Oracle for their database needsOracle has already a free (as in beer) database : Oracle Express.
It was tailored to replace MySQL, a few years before this buy out.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30847452</id>
	<title>Yes Virginia, there is such a thing as lost sales</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264096260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If the health department closes down somebody's resturaunt for a few days but doesn't find anything afterwards, don't tell the restraunt owner there's no such thing as lost sales unless you want a little something extra in your next order.</p><p>This childish view of business and finance is why<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. readers work for the business types and not the other way around.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If the health department closes down somebody 's resturaunt for a few days but does n't find anything afterwards , do n't tell the restraunt owner there 's no such thing as lost sales unless you want a little something extra in your next order.This childish view of business and finance is why / .
readers work for the business types and not the other way around .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the health department closes down somebody's resturaunt for a few days but doesn't find anything afterwards, don't tell the restraunt owner there's no such thing as lost sales unless you want a little something extra in your next order.This childish view of business and finance is why /.
readers work for the business types and not the other way around.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30846220</id>
	<title>Pet Peeve</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264090860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Uncertainty about Sun's future has cost over a billion dollars in lost sales in the past year." No, you can't say that. Last year could have been a really bad year for Sun regardless, they might have only sold 100 Million dollars worth without all this fiasco going on. Not meeting what the accountants project is not "losing sales" but "missing your target".</p><p>Now that the obligatory is out of the way, is this going to be the last I hear about this? Or is someone (name rhymes with Bonty) going to write an angry blog post thats going to get<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. front paged? Bound to happen.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Uncertainty about Sun 's future has cost over a billion dollars in lost sales in the past year .
" No , you ca n't say that .
Last year could have been a really bad year for Sun regardless , they might have only sold 100 Million dollars worth without all this fiasco going on .
Not meeting what the accountants project is not " losing sales " but " missing your target " .Now that the obligatory is out of the way , is this going to be the last I hear about this ?
Or is someone ( name rhymes with Bonty ) going to write an angry blog post thats going to get / .
front paged ?
Bound to happen .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Uncertainty about Sun's future has cost over a billion dollars in lost sales in the past year.
" No, you can't say that.
Last year could have been a really bad year for Sun regardless, they might have only sold 100 Million dollars worth without all this fiasco going on.
Not meeting what the accountants project is not "losing sales" but "missing your target".Now that the obligatory is out of the way, is this going to be the last I hear about this?
Or is someone (name rhymes with Bonty) going to write an angry blog post thats going to get /.
front paged?
Bound to happen.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30852046</id>
	<title>Re:Forget MySQL, What about GlassFish and NetBeans</title>
	<author>acoopersmith</author>
	<datestamp>1264070520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Oracle already posted <a href="http://www.oracle.com/us/sun/038563.pdf" title="oracle.com">a FAQ [PDF] about its plans many of Sun's products</a> [oracle.com], including those, a while ago, and has more information posted at <a href="http://www.oracle.com/sun" title="oracle.com">http://www.oracle.com/sun</a> [oracle.com] with a promise of more details to come in <a href="http://www.oracle.com/webapps/events/EventsDetail.jsp?p\_eventId=108481&amp;src=6806472&amp;src=6806472&amp;Act=22" title="oracle.com">next Wednesday's webcast</a> [oracle.com].

The FAQ says:<blockquote><div><p> <b>What are Oracle&rsquo;s plans for the GlassFish Enterprise (Java EE) Server after the transaction closes?</b> </p><p> <i>Oracle plans to continue evolving GlassFish Enterprise Server, delivering it as the open source reference implementation (RI) of the Java Enterprise Edition (Java EE) specifications, and actively supporting the large GlassFish community. Additionally, Oracle plans to invest in aligning common infrastructure components and innovations from Oracle WebLogic Server and GlassFish Enterprise Server to benefit both Oracle WebLogic Server and GlassFish Enterprise Server customers.</i> </p><p> <b>What are Oracle&rsquo;s plans for NetBeans?</b> </p><p> <i>Oracle has a strong track record of demonstrating commitment to choice for Java developers. As such, NetBeans is expected to provide an additional open source option and complement to the two free tools Oracle already offers for enterprise Java development: Oracle JDeveloper and Oracle Enterprise Pack for Eclipse. While Oracle JDeveloper remains Oracle&rsquo;s strategic development tool for the broad portfolio of Oracle Fusion Middleware products and for Oracle&rsquo;s next generation of enterprise applications, developers will be able to use whichever free tool they are most comfortable with for pure Java and Java EE development: JDeveloper, Enterprise Pack for Eclipse, or NetBeans.</i> </p></div>
</blockquote></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Oracle already posted a FAQ [ PDF ] about its plans many of Sun 's products [ oracle.com ] , including those , a while ago , and has more information posted at http : //www.oracle.com/sun [ oracle.com ] with a promise of more details to come in next Wednesday 's webcast [ oracle.com ] .
The FAQ says : What are Oracle    s plans for the GlassFish Enterprise ( Java EE ) Server after the transaction closes ?
Oracle plans to continue evolving GlassFish Enterprise Server , delivering it as the open source reference implementation ( RI ) of the Java Enterprise Edition ( Java EE ) specifications , and actively supporting the large GlassFish community .
Additionally , Oracle plans to invest in aligning common infrastructure components and innovations from Oracle WebLogic Server and GlassFish Enterprise Server to benefit both Oracle WebLogic Server and GlassFish Enterprise Server customers .
What are Oracle    s plans for NetBeans ?
Oracle has a strong track record of demonstrating commitment to choice for Java developers .
As such , NetBeans is expected to provide an additional open source option and complement to the two free tools Oracle already offers for enterprise Java development : Oracle JDeveloper and Oracle Enterprise Pack for Eclipse .
While Oracle JDeveloper remains Oracle    s strategic development tool for the broad portfolio of Oracle Fusion Middleware products and for Oracle    s next generation of enterprise applications , developers will be able to use whichever free tool they are most comfortable with for pure Java and Java EE development : JDeveloper , Enterprise Pack for Eclipse , or NetBeans .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oracle already posted a FAQ [PDF] about its plans many of Sun's products [oracle.com], including those, a while ago, and has more information posted at http://www.oracle.com/sun [oracle.com] with a promise of more details to come in next Wednesday's webcast [oracle.com].
The FAQ says: What are Oracle’s plans for the GlassFish Enterprise (Java EE) Server after the transaction closes?
Oracle plans to continue evolving GlassFish Enterprise Server, delivering it as the open source reference implementation (RI) of the Java Enterprise Edition (Java EE) specifications, and actively supporting the large GlassFish community.
Additionally, Oracle plans to invest in aligning common infrastructure components and innovations from Oracle WebLogic Server and GlassFish Enterprise Server to benefit both Oracle WebLogic Server and GlassFish Enterprise Server customers.
What are Oracle’s plans for NetBeans?
Oracle has a strong track record of demonstrating commitment to choice for Java developers.
As such, NetBeans is expected to provide an additional open source option and complement to the two free tools Oracle already offers for enterprise Java development: Oracle JDeveloper and Oracle Enterprise Pack for Eclipse.
While Oracle JDeveloper remains Oracle’s strategic development tool for the broad portfolio of Oracle Fusion Middleware products and for Oracle’s next generation of enterprise applications, developers will be able to use whichever free tool they are most comfortable with for pure Java and Java EE development: JDeveloper, Enterprise Pack for Eclipse, or NetBeans. 

	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30860136</id>
	<title>A more sensible use of mySQL</title>
	<author>mr\_java66</author>
	<datestamp>1264179300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>My theory is that Oracle will make mySQL a kind of gateway product for Oracle.  It makes sense to me, that a company that makes money by selling Database Engines/etc will make decisions based upon selling more engines.</htmltext>
<tokenext>My theory is that Oracle will make mySQL a kind of gateway product for Oracle .
It makes sense to me , that a company that makes money by selling Database Engines/etc will make decisions based upon selling more engines .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My theory is that Oracle will make mySQL a kind of gateway product for Oracle.
It makes sense to me, that a company that makes money by selling Database Engines/etc will make decisions based upon selling more engines.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30846530</id>
	<title>Re:Monty</title>
	<author>rwyoder</author>
	<datestamp>1264092240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Monty is going to have a fit.</p></div></blockquote><p>

We can only hope.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Monty is going to have a fit .
We can only hope .
; - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Monty is going to have a fit.
We can only hope.
;-)
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30846366</id>
	<title>Re:Time to get more familiar with PostgreSQL</title>
	<author>Xest</author>
	<datestamp>1264091520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think that's probably the case too to be honest. Judging by the EU saying PostgreSql is a viable alternative even they accept it's a possibility.</p><p>At the time, as it always does, building an abstraction layer on my projects for database access seemed like one of those things you feel you have to do but might not ever end up being useful.</p><p>But things like this are one of the many reasons we do those sorts of chores- at least a switch to PostgreSql will be amazingly trivial for me on the projects which I've used MySql on now, and the goodbye wont be quite as hard as it would have been.</p><p>This still raises an interesting point though, if Oracle does kill MySql, has the EU factored in the damage this will do to those European companies that haven't had this foresight in terms of lost developer time re-writing everything? In a way you can say it's their own fault of course for not using some database abstraction layer. Having an alternative available is one thing, but switching to that alternative can still be very costly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think that 's probably the case too to be honest .
Judging by the EU saying PostgreSql is a viable alternative even they accept it 's a possibility.At the time , as it always does , building an abstraction layer on my projects for database access seemed like one of those things you feel you have to do but might not ever end up being useful.But things like this are one of the many reasons we do those sorts of chores- at least a switch to PostgreSql will be amazingly trivial for me on the projects which I 've used MySql on now , and the goodbye wont be quite as hard as it would have been.This still raises an interesting point though , if Oracle does kill MySql , has the EU factored in the damage this will do to those European companies that have n't had this foresight in terms of lost developer time re-writing everything ?
In a way you can say it 's their own fault of course for not using some database abstraction layer .
Having an alternative available is one thing , but switching to that alternative can still be very costly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think that's probably the case too to be honest.
Judging by the EU saying PostgreSql is a viable alternative even they accept it's a possibility.At the time, as it always does, building an abstraction layer on my projects for database access seemed like one of those things you feel you have to do but might not ever end up being useful.But things like this are one of the many reasons we do those sorts of chores- at least a switch to PostgreSql will be amazingly trivial for me on the projects which I've used MySql on now, and the goodbye wont be quite as hard as it would have been.This still raises an interesting point though, if Oracle does kill MySql, has the EU factored in the damage this will do to those European companies that haven't had this foresight in terms of lost developer time re-writing everything?
In a way you can say it's their own fault of course for not using some database abstraction layer.
Having an alternative available is one thing, but switching to that alternative can still be very costly.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30846198</id>
	<title>Re:Time to get more familiar with PostgreSQL</title>
	<author>Lunix Nutcase</author>
	<datestamp>1264090800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Then Monty Wideanus should have bought back the copyrights to MySQL to preserve its fate.  Otherwise it was just a bunch of butthurt on his part after cashing in for a billion dollars.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Then Monty Wideanus should have bought back the copyrights to MySQL to preserve its fate .
Otherwise it was just a bunch of butthurt on his part after cashing in for a billion dollars .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Then Monty Wideanus should have bought back the copyrights to MySQL to preserve its fate.
Otherwise it was just a bunch of butthurt on his part after cashing in for a billion dollars.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30845994</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30847100</id>
	<title>Re:Monty</title>
	<author>richlv</author>
	<datestamp>1264094880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>maybe eu approved the deal because they got annoyed by monty</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>maybe eu approved the deal because they got annoyed by monty</tokentext>
<sentencetext>maybe eu approved the deal because they got annoyed by monty</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30846004</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30846266</id>
	<title>MySQL future?</title>
	<author>VincenzoRomano</author>
	<datestamp>1264091100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Will MySQL survive this merger?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Will MySQL survive this merger ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Will MySQL survive this merger?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30848530</id>
	<title>I'm disappointed ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264100520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>but not because I give a shit about MySQL.</p><p>Oracle is big enough that it should not be allowed to buy other companies, no matter what.</p><p>Sun is big enough that nobody should be allowed to buy all of it, no matter what.</p><p>(I feel this way about almost every merger or acquisition that makes the news.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>but not because I give a shit about MySQL.Oracle is big enough that it should not be allowed to buy other companies , no matter what.Sun is big enough that nobody should be allowed to buy all of it , no matter what .
( I feel this way about almost every merger or acquisition that makes the news .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>but not because I give a shit about MySQL.Oracle is big enough that it should not be allowed to buy other companies, no matter what.Sun is big enough that nobody should be allowed to buy all of it, no matter what.
(I feel this way about almost every merger or acquisition that makes the news.
)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30847418</id>
	<title>Re:Time to get more familiar with PostgreSQL</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264096080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What, you aren't already?</p><p>Funny thing: <a href="http://www.mysql.com/" title="mysql.com" rel="nofollow">MySQL's website</a> [mysql.com] says </p><p><div class="quote"><p>The world's most popular open source database</p></div><p> <a href="http://www.postgresql.org/" title="postgresql.org" rel="nofollow">PostgreSQL's website says </a> [postgresql.org] </p><p><div class="quote"><p>The world's most advanced open source database</p></div><p>I've always preferred PostgreSQL over MySQL<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What , you are n't already ? Funny thing : MySQL 's website [ mysql.com ] says The world 's most popular open source database PostgreSQL 's website says [ postgresql.org ] The world 's most advanced open source databaseI 've always preferred PostgreSQL over MySQL ; - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What, you aren't already?Funny thing: MySQL's website [mysql.com] says The world's most popular open source database PostgreSQL's website says  [postgresql.org] The world's most advanced open source databaseI've always preferred PostgreSQL over MySQL ;-)
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30845994</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30846440</id>
	<title>"lost sales"</title>
	<author>Tom</author>
	<datestamp>1264091880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Pfft. Same argument as the RIAA about piracy. "We certainly <b>would have made</b> $x bazillion, if only..."</p><p>Please, if you ever want to aspire to anything higher than tabloid journalism, do at the very least two things:<br>1 - add the word "estimated" or something to that effect when you're pulling figures out of your (or someone elses) ass<br>2 - do not use the word "cost" for lost sales or other imaginary did-not-happen income. Cost is when an expense has happened, i.e. money has been spent. Money that never came in is never a "cost".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Pfft .
Same argument as the RIAA about piracy .
" We certainly would have made $ x bazillion , if only... " Please , if you ever want to aspire to anything higher than tabloid journalism , do at the very least two things : 1 - add the word " estimated " or something to that effect when you 're pulling figures out of your ( or someone elses ) ass2 - do not use the word " cost " for lost sales or other imaginary did-not-happen income .
Cost is when an expense has happened , i.e .
money has been spent .
Money that never came in is never a " cost " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pfft.
Same argument as the RIAA about piracy.
"We certainly would have made $x bazillion, if only..."Please, if you ever want to aspire to anything higher than tabloid journalism, do at the very least two things:1 - add the word "estimated" or something to that effect when you're pulling figures out of your (or someone elses) ass2 - do not use the word "cost" for lost sales or other imaginary did-not-happen income.
Cost is when an expense has happened, i.e.
money has been spent.
Money that never came in is never a "cost".</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30846144</id>
	<title>Rrrreally</title>
	<author>bjourne</author>
	<datestamp>1264090500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Uncertainty about Sun's future has cost over a billion dollars in lost sales in the past year.</p></div><p>Uh.. Citation needed, uhu.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Uncertainty about Sun 's future has cost over a billion dollars in lost sales in the past year.Uh.. Citation needed , uhu .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Uncertainty about Sun's future has cost over a billion dollars in lost sales in the past year.Uh.. Citation needed, uhu.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30846342</id>
	<title>Re:Time to get more familiar with PostgreSQL</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264091400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>The primary hangup with the EU was the MySQL issue. Oracle didn't hold up 1 Billion dollars in sales with Sun by not giving up MySQL so they could kill MySQL. Releasing or breaking off MySQL would likely have removed all the barriers imposed by the EU and they could have moved along with their lives. They have an interest in MySQL, the question is what.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The primary hangup with the EU was the MySQL issue .
Oracle did n't hold up 1 Billion dollars in sales with Sun by not giving up MySQL so they could kill MySQL .
Releasing or breaking off MySQL would likely have removed all the barriers imposed by the EU and they could have moved along with their lives .
They have an interest in MySQL , the question is what .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The primary hangup with the EU was the MySQL issue.
Oracle didn't hold up 1 Billion dollars in sales with Sun by not giving up MySQL so they could kill MySQL.
Releasing or breaking off MySQL would likely have removed all the barriers imposed by the EU and they could have moved along with their lives.
They have an interest in MySQL, the question is what.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30845994</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30846070</id>
	<title>Forget MySQL, What about GlassFish and NetBeans?</title>
	<author>heffel</author>
	<datestamp>1264090260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="https://glassfish.dev.java.net/" title="java.net">GlassFish</a> [java.net] competes directly with Oracle AS, and Weblogic (which Oracle acquired through BEA's acquisition a while back).</p><p><a href="http://www.netbeans.org/" title="netbeans.org">NetBeans</a> [netbeans.org] competes directly with Oracle's JDeveloper.</p><p>I wonder if Oracle will keep these tools around. Personally, I think Oracle would be a fool not to. The NetBeans/GlassFish combo is by far the most productive way to develop server side Java Applications.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>GlassFish [ java.net ] competes directly with Oracle AS , and Weblogic ( which Oracle acquired through BEA 's acquisition a while back ) .NetBeans [ netbeans.org ] competes directly with Oracle 's JDeveloper.I wonder if Oracle will keep these tools around .
Personally , I think Oracle would be a fool not to .
The NetBeans/GlassFish combo is by far the most productive way to develop server side Java Applications .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>GlassFish [java.net] competes directly with Oracle AS, and Weblogic (which Oracle acquired through BEA's acquisition a while back).NetBeans [netbeans.org] competes directly with Oracle's JDeveloper.I wonder if Oracle will keep these tools around.
Personally, I think Oracle would be a fool not to.
The NetBeans/GlassFish combo is by far the most productive way to develop server side Java Applications.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30850162</id>
	<title>alles klar, herr kommissar!</title>
	<author>aspa</author>
	<datestamp>1264064520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can almost hear Larry singing <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GmkjnL4EYw" title="youtube.com" rel="nofollow">"alles klar, herr kommissar!"</a> [youtube.com].</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I can almost hear Larry singing " alles klar , herr kommissar !
" [ youtube.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can almost hear Larry singing "alles klar, herr kommissar!
" [youtube.com].</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30846264</id>
	<title>MySQL</title>
	<author>C\_Kode</author>
	<datestamp>1264091040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I doubt Oracle is going to kill or even hamper MySQL.  If anything, they will make an Oracle upgrade path that fits like a glove.   While MySQL takes away some of Oracle's business, there are things out that that just doesn't need Oracle and companies that just can't afford Oracle DB.  It is in Oracle's best interest to empower MySQL so that people don't switch from MySQL to PostgreSQL or other free alternatives.   I mean, if I'm Oracle.  I want users under my umbrella even if they aren't using my flagship product.  If they ever outgrow MySQL, I would (if I were Oracle) want them to look stay with me and upgrade to Oracle DB rather than look else where.</p><p>This is a huge boon for PostgreSQL though as several people will migrate away because of this.  I used to use PostgreSQL a lot.  The only reason I stopped was once InnoDB really stepped up it did what I needed, and MySQL is just easier to use.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I doubt Oracle is going to kill or even hamper MySQL .
If anything , they will make an Oracle upgrade path that fits like a glove .
While MySQL takes away some of Oracle 's business , there are things out that that just does n't need Oracle and companies that just ca n't afford Oracle DB .
It is in Oracle 's best interest to empower MySQL so that people do n't switch from MySQL to PostgreSQL or other free alternatives .
I mean , if I 'm Oracle .
I want users under my umbrella even if they are n't using my flagship product .
If they ever outgrow MySQL , I would ( if I were Oracle ) want them to look stay with me and upgrade to Oracle DB rather than look else where.This is a huge boon for PostgreSQL though as several people will migrate away because of this .
I used to use PostgreSQL a lot .
The only reason I stopped was once InnoDB really stepped up it did what I needed , and MySQL is just easier to use .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I doubt Oracle is going to kill or even hamper MySQL.
If anything, they will make an Oracle upgrade path that fits like a glove.
While MySQL takes away some of Oracle's business, there are things out that that just doesn't need Oracle and companies that just can't afford Oracle DB.
It is in Oracle's best interest to empower MySQL so that people don't switch from MySQL to PostgreSQL or other free alternatives.
I mean, if I'm Oracle.
I want users under my umbrella even if they aren't using my flagship product.
If they ever outgrow MySQL, I would (if I were Oracle) want them to look stay with me and upgrade to Oracle DB rather than look else where.This is a huge boon for PostgreSQL though as several people will migrate away because of this.
I used to use PostgreSQL a lot.
The only reason I stopped was once InnoDB really stepped up it did what I needed, and MySQL is just easier to use.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30847370</id>
	<title>Re:"lost sales"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264095900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Unfortunately, with the way we allow accounting (at least in the US, but I suspect in other nations as well), income that didn't come in IS a cost. That money was already spent, based on the projection that it would be received.</p><p>There are many reasons to allow this, but [IMO] none of them outweight the flat idiocy of considering spending what-you-will-have to be legally acceptable accounting.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Unfortunately , with the way we allow accounting ( at least in the US , but I suspect in other nations as well ) , income that did n't come in IS a cost .
That money was already spent , based on the projection that it would be received.There are many reasons to allow this , but [ IMO ] none of them outweight the flat idiocy of considering spending what-you-will-have to be legally acceptable accounting .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unfortunately, with the way we allow accounting (at least in the US, but I suspect in other nations as well), income that didn't come in IS a cost.
That money was already spent, based on the projection that it would be received.There are many reasons to allow this, but [IMO] none of them outweight the flat idiocy of considering spending what-you-will-have to be legally acceptable accounting.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30846440</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30847502</id>
	<title>Re:Time to get more familiar with PostgreSQL</title>
	<author>Bigbutt</author>
	<datestamp>1264096440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wait. So Oracle Express only supports 4 Gigs of database, one instance at a time, 1 Gig of RAM, one processor, and only 32 bit?</p><p>Why would I want to use Oracle Express again? It looks like it wouldn't work at all for my current projects.</p><p>[John]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wait .
So Oracle Express only supports 4 Gigs of database , one instance at a time , 1 Gig of RAM , one processor , and only 32 bit ? Why would I want to use Oracle Express again ?
It looks like it would n't work at all for my current projects .
[ John ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wait.
So Oracle Express only supports 4 Gigs of database, one instance at a time, 1 Gig of RAM, one processor, and only 32 bit?Why would I want to use Oracle Express again?
It looks like it wouldn't work at all for my current projects.
[John]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30846358</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30846794</id>
	<title>Re:Forget MySQL, What about GlassFish and NetBeans</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264093560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually is the other way, Microsoft is eating market to Java with<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.NET and gaining market share with SQL Server, the gap between Oracle DB and SQL Server is getting shorter after each release (the same with Windows and Solaris). But right now the target for Oracle and Microsoft is Big Blue. IBM has the BIG MONEY within big customers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually is the other way , Microsoft is eating market to Java with .NET and gaining market share with SQL Server , the gap between Oracle DB and SQL Server is getting shorter after each release ( the same with Windows and Solaris ) .
But right now the target for Oracle and Microsoft is Big Blue .
IBM has the BIG MONEY within big customers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually is the other way, Microsoft is eating market to Java with .NET and gaining market share with SQL Server, the gap between Oracle DB and SQL Server is getting shorter after each release (the same with Windows and Solaris).
But right now the target for Oracle and Microsoft is Big Blue.
IBM has the BIG MONEY within big customers.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30846350</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30856800</id>
	<title>Re:Forget MySQL, What about GlassFish and NetBeans</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264101060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The NetBeans/GlassFish combo is by far the most productive way to develop server side Java Applications.</p></div><p>Oh please!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The NetBeans/GlassFish combo is by far the most productive way to develop server side Java Applications.Oh please !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The NetBeans/GlassFish combo is by far the most productive way to develop server side Java Applications.Oh please!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30846070</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30863372</id>
	<title>Re:Forget MySQL, What about GlassFish and NetBeans</title>
	<author>farble1670</author>
	<datestamp>1264154160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>because glassfish and netbeans don't have the perceived importance of mysql in their respective markets.</p><p>there is not a chance in the world they will be around in the long run. oracle isn't going to duplicate software dev teams to build competing products in house.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>because glassfish and netbeans do n't have the perceived importance of mysql in their respective markets.there is not a chance in the world they will be around in the long run .
oracle is n't going to duplicate software dev teams to build competing products in house .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>because glassfish and netbeans don't have the perceived importance of mysql in their respective markets.there is not a chance in the world they will be around in the long run.
oracle isn't going to duplicate software dev teams to build competing products in house.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30846070</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30845974</id>
	<title>joy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264089840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>first</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>first</tokentext>
<sentencetext>first</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30846292</id>
	<title>My tax Euros at work</title>
	<author>Max Romantschuk</author>
	<datestamp>1264091160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>While it's annoying that something like this had to take ages, I still think it's a good thing that these things are looked into. Far too many deals are done under shady circumstances. At least this one, potentially affecting countless systems around the world in the long run, was scrutinized before given a go-ahead.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>While it 's annoying that something like this had to take ages , I still think it 's a good thing that these things are looked into .
Far too many deals are done under shady circumstances .
At least this one , potentially affecting countless systems around the world in the long run , was scrutinized before given a go-ahead .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While it's annoying that something like this had to take ages, I still think it's a good thing that these things are looked into.
Far too many deals are done under shady circumstances.
At least this one, potentially affecting countless systems around the world in the long run, was scrutinized before given a go-ahead.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30846092</id>
	<title>Re:Monty</title>
	<author>Rogerborg</author>
	<datestamp>1264090320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>He sure is.  Then he'll hear this news, and <em>really</em> go cuckoo-bananas.</htmltext>
<tokenext>He sure is .
Then he 'll hear this news , and really go cuckoo-bananas .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He sure is.
Then he'll hear this news, and really go cuckoo-bananas.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30846004</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30849266</id>
	<title>Re:MySQL's future</title>
	<author>jadavis</author>
	<datestamp>1264104060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I have seen Postgres going horribly wrong</i></p><p>An offhand negative comment with no explanation at all doesn't mean much. That could mean anything from a real problem to forgetting a WHERE clause on your DELETE statement.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have seen Postgres going horribly wrongAn offhand negative comment with no explanation at all does n't mean much .
That could mean anything from a real problem to forgetting a WHERE clause on your DELETE statement .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have seen Postgres going horribly wrongAn offhand negative comment with no explanation at all doesn't mean much.
That could mean anything from a real problem to forgetting a WHERE clause on your DELETE statement.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30846374</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30847690</id>
	<title>Screw this</title>
	<author>Arancaytar</author>
	<datestamp>1264097040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'll abandon both Java and MySQL before it's too late. Within a year, they'll be caught in a proprietary quagmire.</p><p>(Even more than Enterprise Java already is, I mean.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'll abandon both Java and MySQL before it 's too late .
Within a year , they 'll be caught in a proprietary quagmire .
( Even more than Enterprise Java already is , I mean .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'll abandon both Java and MySQL before it's too late.
Within a year, they'll be caught in a proprietary quagmire.
(Even more than Enterprise Java already is, I mean.
)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30847244</id>
	<title>Re:"lost sales"</title>
	<author>thetoadwarrior</author>
	<datestamp>1264095480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It will always be an estimate as you never knew who considered Sun but opted to never even contact them.
<br> <br>
I'd love to buy from Sun but even I put off buying a couple servers until I see what happens. The sales rep was honest about the situation and his inability to say much so if the hardware side survives, I will still buy from them.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It will always be an estimate as you never knew who considered Sun but opted to never even contact them .
I 'd love to buy from Sun but even I put off buying a couple servers until I see what happens .
The sales rep was honest about the situation and his inability to say much so if the hardware side survives , I will still buy from them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It will always be an estimate as you never knew who considered Sun but opted to never even contact them.
I'd love to buy from Sun but even I put off buying a couple servers until I see what happens.
The sales rep was honest about the situation and his inability to say much so if the hardware side survives, I will still buy from them.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30847420</id>
	<title>i believe Oracle won't kill MySQL.</title>
	<author>Luke has no name</author>
	<datestamp>1264096080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oracle has the opportunity to pleasantly surprise the open source community. Let us hope they take the chance to not piss us off, and use MySQL as a low-end DB with an upgrade path to Oracle. besides, they already 'promised' to keep it open source and maintained.</p><p>As for Glassfish/opensolaris/Netbeans, I don't know. I certainly don't think they'll kill them, but who knows. They're all open source projects with a decent community.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oracle has the opportunity to pleasantly surprise the open source community .
Let us hope they take the chance to not piss us off , and use MySQL as a low-end DB with an upgrade path to Oracle .
besides , they already 'promised ' to keep it open source and maintained.As for Glassfish/opensolaris/Netbeans , I do n't know .
I certainly do n't think they 'll kill them , but who knows .
They 're all open source projects with a decent community .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oracle has the opportunity to pleasantly surprise the open source community.
Let us hope they take the chance to not piss us off, and use MySQL as a low-end DB with an upgrade path to Oracle.
besides, they already 'promised' to keep it open source and maintained.As for Glassfish/opensolaris/Netbeans, I don't know.
I certainly don't think they'll kill them, but who knows.
They're all open source projects with a decent community.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30846352</id>
	<title>Let the layoffs begin</title>
	<author>davebarnes</author>
	<datestamp>1264091460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>50+\% of [yesterday's] Sun employees will soon be pounding the streets</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>50 + \ % of [ yesterday 's ] Sun employees will soon be pounding the streets</tokentext>
<sentencetext>50+\% of [yesterday's] Sun employees will soon be pounding the streets</sentencetext>
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	<title>$1 Billion out the window, down the tubes, bye-bye</title>
	<author>haruchai</author>
	<datestamp>1264091040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I know that many MySQL folks are antsy about this, but let's face it, this was the best hope for Solaris &amp; related technologies.<br>Being swallowed by IBM, I believe, would have led to the swift death of many SUN technologies / divisions. I'm firmly of the opinion<br>that IBM's major interest was in acquiring and converting SUN's existing enterprise userbase.</p><p>Of course, they got a good chunk of that practically for free by the EU's foot-dragging.<br>I imagine SUN / Oracle have no recourse?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I know that many MySQL folks are antsy about this , but let 's face it , this was the best hope for Solaris &amp; related technologies.Being swallowed by IBM , I believe , would have led to the swift death of many SUN technologies / divisions .
I 'm firmly of the opinionthat IBM 's major interest was in acquiring and converting SUN 's existing enterprise userbase.Of course , they got a good chunk of that practically for free by the EU 's foot-dragging.I imagine SUN / Oracle have no recourse ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know that many MySQL folks are antsy about this, but let's face it, this was the best hope for Solaris &amp; related technologies.Being swallowed by IBM, I believe, would have led to the swift death of many SUN technologies / divisions.
I'm firmly of the opinionthat IBM's major interest was in acquiring and converting SUN's existing enterprise userbase.Of course, they got a good chunk of that practically for free by the EU's foot-dragging.I imagine SUN / Oracle have no recourse?</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Forget MySQL, What about GlassFish and NetBeans</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264098480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think someone was anticipating the success of this merger, because the latest version of Netbeans already drops support for building SOA apps, e.g. BPEL.  That sucks a lot, because they had a really good tool.  There's an Eclipse plug in, but it's slow, incomplete, and development is proceeding at a snail's pace.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think someone was anticipating the success of this merger , because the latest version of Netbeans already drops support for building SOA apps , e.g .
BPEL. That sucks a lot , because they had a really good tool .
There 's an Eclipse plug in , but it 's slow , incomplete , and development is proceeding at a snail 's pace .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think someone was anticipating the success of this merger, because the latest version of Netbeans already drops support for building SOA apps, e.g.
BPEL.  That sucks a lot, because they had a really good tool.
There's an Eclipse plug in, but it's slow, incomplete, and development is proceeding at a snail's pace.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_1439201.30846164</id>
	<title>Re:Time to get more familiar with PostgreSQL</title>
	<author>Attila Dimedici</author>
	<datestamp>1264090620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Oracle is sure to kill or marginalize MySQL. Rest in peace my old friend.</p></div><p>I don't know about that. If I was running Oracle, I would do three things: gradually modify MySQL to make it easier to transition from MySQL to Oracle, market MySQL heavily as a lightweight, easy databse for companies and organizations that can't justify the cost of Oracle for their database needs, develop and market a for pay support structure for MySQL that easily transitions to Oracle if the database gets big and complicated enough to justify the transition (and train the support staff to <strong>not</strong> transition anybody until they really got significant benefit from the transition.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Oracle is sure to kill or marginalize MySQL .
Rest in peace my old friend.I do n't know about that .
If I was running Oracle , I would do three things : gradually modify MySQL to make it easier to transition from MySQL to Oracle , market MySQL heavily as a lightweight , easy databse for companies and organizations that ca n't justify the cost of Oracle for their database needs , develop and market a for pay support structure for MySQL that easily transitions to Oracle if the database gets big and complicated enough to justify the transition ( and train the support staff to not transition anybody until they really got significant benefit from the transition .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oracle is sure to kill or marginalize MySQL.
Rest in peace my old friend.I don't know about that.
If I was running Oracle, I would do three things: gradually modify MySQL to make it easier to transition from MySQL to Oracle, market MySQL heavily as a lightweight, easy databse for companies and organizations that can't justify the cost of Oracle for their database needs, develop and market a for pay support structure for MySQL that easily transitions to Oracle if the database gets big and complicated enough to justify the transition (and train the support staff to not transition anybody until they really got significant benefit from the transition.
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