<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_01_21_0343225</id>
	<title>YouTube To Allow Video Rentals</title>
	<author>samzenpus</author>
	<datestamp>1264069680000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>poopdeville writes <i>"Starting Friday, <a href="http://finance.yahoo.com/news/YouTube-getting-into-movie-apf-1568517027.html?x=0&amp;sec=topStories&amp;pos=main&amp;asset=&amp;ccode=">Google and YouTube will allow movie rentals</a>.  The first five films available to rent through YouTube will cost $3.99 for a 48-hour viewing period. Movie studios will be able to set their own prices, with rental viewing windows ranging from one to 90 days. YouTube will get an unspecified commission from each rental. Barclays Capital analyst Douglas Anmuch expects YouTube to generate about $700 million in revenue this year, an estimated 55 percent increase from 2009. If YouTube hits that target, it likely will turn profitable, helping to justify the $1.76 billion in stock that Google paid for the site more than three years ago."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>poopdeville writes " Starting Friday , Google and YouTube will allow movie rentals .
The first five films available to rent through YouTube will cost $ 3.99 for a 48-hour viewing period .
Movie studios will be able to set their own prices , with rental viewing windows ranging from one to 90 days .
YouTube will get an unspecified commission from each rental .
Barclays Capital analyst Douglas Anmuch expects YouTube to generate about $ 700 million in revenue this year , an estimated 55 percent increase from 2009 .
If YouTube hits that target , it likely will turn profitable , helping to justify the $ 1.76 billion in stock that Google paid for the site more than three years ago .
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<sentencetext>poopdeville writes "Starting Friday, Google and YouTube will allow movie rentals.
The first five films available to rent through YouTube will cost $3.99 for a 48-hour viewing period.
Movie studios will be able to set their own prices, with rental viewing windows ranging from one to 90 days.
YouTube will get an unspecified commission from each rental.
Barclays Capital analyst Douglas Anmuch expects YouTube to generate about $700 million in revenue this year, an estimated 55 percent increase from 2009.
If YouTube hits that target, it likely will turn profitable, helping to justify the $1.76 billion in stock that Google paid for the site more than three years ago.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844252</id>
	<title>Re:No thanks</title>
	<author>Stooshie</author>
	<datestamp>1264076040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think that, "... never underestimate the bandwidth of a truck full of tapes<nobr> <wbr></nobr>..." would apply nicely here!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think that , " ... never underestimate the bandwidth of a truck full of tapes ... " would apply nicely here !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think that, "... never underestimate the bandwidth of a truck full of tapes ..." would apply nicely here!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844064</id>
	<title>As a 49 year old feminist grandmother</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264073880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think streaming free video to every last person in every last 3rd world hellhole without any discrimination to socio and/or economic status etc... wasn't such a great thing to pay billions of dollars for. Would anything actually be worse for them if they blocked YT access to gutter economies that don't generate them any pennies? Having said that, this help keeps their name everywhere and familiar with people since this is one of the most used sites in teh world so maybe it does have some value.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think streaming free video to every last person in every last 3rd world hellhole without any discrimination to socio and/or economic status etc... was n't such a great thing to pay billions of dollars for .
Would anything actually be worse for them if they blocked YT access to gutter economies that do n't generate them any pennies ?
Having said that , this help keeps their name everywhere and familiar with people since this is one of the most used sites in teh world so maybe it does have some value .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think streaming free video to every last person in every last 3rd world hellhole without any discrimination to socio and/or economic status etc... wasn't such a great thing to pay billions of dollars for.
Would anything actually be worse for them if they blocked YT access to gutter economies that don't generate them any pennies?
Having said that, this help keeps their name everywhere and familiar with people since this is one of the most used sites in teh world so maybe it does have some value.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844032</id>
	<title>flat rate?</title>
	<author>mxh83</author>
	<datestamp>1264073520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Is it a flat rate for all movies?  Cause you can get quite a few movies at local supermarkets at like $2-5.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is it a flat rate for all movies ?
Cause you can get quite a few movies at local supermarkets at like $ 2-5 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is it a flat rate for all movies?
Cause you can get quite a few movies at local supermarkets at like $2-5.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844256</id>
	<title>The big question for me is ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264076100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... are they counting the Linux market as part of their revenue stream?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... are they counting the Linux market as part of their revenue stream ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... are they counting the Linux market as part of their revenue stream?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30849640</id>
	<title>Re:Preemptive response</title>
	<author>Whorhay</author>
	<datestamp>1264105500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>From what I have heard and read a lot of movies don't make a profit because of Hollywood style accounting. That is the main studio pays some other company to promote the movie and such. The promoting company makes huge profits on the film instead of the main studio in order to essentially hide profits. The promoting company is a shell company that is owned by the same people as the main studio.</p><p>That's what led to Jackson sueing over the Lord of the Rings series. Part of his contract was that he got a significant cut of the movies profits. The studio used at least one shell company that they overpaid for services rendered. Since the same people owned the studio and the shell company they still get all their money, but Jackson gets ripped off because the profits are artificially lowered through the payments to the shell company. All of this is still alledged at this point I think, but it's pretty commonly believed to be what's going on in regards to so many movies apparently failing to make a profit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>From what I have heard and read a lot of movies do n't make a profit because of Hollywood style accounting .
That is the main studio pays some other company to promote the movie and such .
The promoting company makes huge profits on the film instead of the main studio in order to essentially hide profits .
The promoting company is a shell company that is owned by the same people as the main studio.That 's what led to Jackson sueing over the Lord of the Rings series .
Part of his contract was that he got a significant cut of the movies profits .
The studio used at least one shell company that they overpaid for services rendered .
Since the same people owned the studio and the shell company they still get all their money , but Jackson gets ripped off because the profits are artificially lowered through the payments to the shell company .
All of this is still alledged at this point I think , but it 's pretty commonly believed to be what 's going on in regards to so many movies apparently failing to make a profit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From what I have heard and read a lot of movies don't make a profit because of Hollywood style accounting.
That is the main studio pays some other company to promote the movie and such.
The promoting company makes huge profits on the film instead of the main studio in order to essentially hide profits.
The promoting company is a shell company that is owned by the same people as the main studio.That's what led to Jackson sueing over the Lord of the Rings series.
Part of his contract was that he got a significant cut of the movies profits.
The studio used at least one shell company that they overpaid for services rendered.
Since the same people owned the studio and the shell company they still get all their money, but Jackson gets ripped off because the profits are artificially lowered through the payments to the shell company.
All of this is still alledged at this point I think, but it's pretty commonly believed to be what's going on in regards to so many movies apparently failing to make a profit.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844090</id>
	<title>No thanks</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264074060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>More expensive than renting a physical DVD either at my local store or Netflix -and- I have to provide the bandwidth as well...no thanks. (note: in Aus we don't get unlimited bandwidth, I'm on 50gb / month at present)</htmltext>
<tokenext>More expensive than renting a physical DVD either at my local store or Netflix -and- I have to provide the bandwidth as well...no thanks .
( note : in Aus we do n't get unlimited bandwidth , I 'm on 50gb / month at present )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>More expensive than renting a physical DVD either at my local store or Netflix -and- I have to provide the bandwidth as well...no thanks.
(note: in Aus we don't get unlimited bandwidth, I'm on 50gb / month at present)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30845752</id>
	<title>Re:International Viewing?</title>
	<author>Idiomatick</author>
	<datestamp>1264088880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>:/ Does that make Canada the 52nd?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... lame that we are moving down the list.... Ah well Australia is still below us at 53rd.</htmltext>
<tokenext>: / Does that make Canada the 52nd ?
... lame that we are moving down the list.... Ah well Australia is still below us at 53rd .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>:/ Does that make Canada the 52nd?
... lame that we are moving down the list.... Ah well Australia is still below us at 53rd.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844260</id>
	<title>Flash makes this a no go</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264076220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not just purely from a "flash sucks, it's not open, OSS for ever!" point of view. Lack of decent hardware decoding make full screen HD 1080p videos totally unwatchable on my 6 month old macbook pro, I dread to think how older hardware handles it. Even 720p is enough to make flash choke some times.</p><p>If Google to make to the move to HTML 5 this might be viable, but even then, the price needs to offer better value (compare it to the PSN store, which lets you keep videos for far longer, for about the same amount)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not just purely from a " flash sucks , it 's not open , OSS for ever !
" point of view .
Lack of decent hardware decoding make full screen HD 1080p videos totally unwatchable on my 6 month old macbook pro , I dread to think how older hardware handles it .
Even 720p is enough to make flash choke some times.If Google to make to the move to HTML 5 this might be viable , but even then , the price needs to offer better value ( compare it to the PSN store , which lets you keep videos for far longer , for about the same amount )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not just purely from a "flash sucks, it's not open, OSS for ever!
" point of view.
Lack of decent hardware decoding make full screen HD 1080p videos totally unwatchable on my 6 month old macbook pro, I dread to think how older hardware handles it.
Even 720p is enough to make flash choke some times.If Google to make to the move to HTML 5 this might be viable, but even then, the price needs to offer better value (compare it to the PSN store, which lets you keep videos for far longer, for about the same amount)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844668</id>
	<title>Re:No thanks</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264081620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>note: in Aus we don't get unlimited bandwidth, I'm on 50gb / month at present</p></div><p>Come on, you serious?<br>I'm on 50GB too and i would gladly use this service.<br>50GB is A LOT of data.<br>Do you actually use all your bandwidth each month to justify the cost of paying for it?</p><p>And really, how many films would you actually consider watching in a month?<br>It is going to be a while before any studios consider putting older films up there. (At least i would think they'd rather try out their newest and greatest first to bring people in to it first, then progressively add older ones)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>note : in Aus we do n't get unlimited bandwidth , I 'm on 50gb / month at presentCome on , you serious ? I 'm on 50GB too and i would gladly use this service.50GB is A LOT of data.Do you actually use all your bandwidth each month to justify the cost of paying for it ? And really , how many films would you actually consider watching in a month ? It is going to be a while before any studios consider putting older films up there .
( At least i would think they 'd rather try out their newest and greatest first to bring people in to it first , then progressively add older ones )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>note: in Aus we don't get unlimited bandwidth, I'm on 50gb / month at presentCome on, you serious?I'm on 50GB too and i would gladly use this service.50GB is A LOT of data.Do you actually use all your bandwidth each month to justify the cost of paying for it?And really, how many films would you actually consider watching in a month?It is going to be a while before any studios consider putting older films up there.
(At least i would think they'd rather try out their newest and greatest first to bring people in to it first, then progressively add older ones)
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30847614</id>
	<title>Re:I'll tell you what I want as a service.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264096740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I stopped going to the cinema when I saw a notice in the foyer saying "Your ticket includes 0.50&euro; Royalty towards the artist". My cinema ticket was 13&euro;. WTF?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I stopped going to the cinema when I saw a notice in the foyer saying " Your ticket includes 0.50    Royalty towards the artist " .
My cinema ticket was 13    .
WTF ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I stopped going to the cinema when I saw a notice in the foyer saying "Your ticket includes 0.50€ Royalty towards the artist".
My cinema ticket was 13€.
WTF?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844436</id>
	<title>Re:Price is good, but...</title>
	<author>srothroc</author>
	<datestamp>1264078980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't think it's five for $3.99, but rather, there are five films that will be the first released for rental via YouTube and each of the five will have a rental price of $3.99.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't think it 's five for $ 3.99 , but rather , there are five films that will be the first released for rental via YouTube and each of the five will have a rental price of $ 3.99 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't think it's five for $3.99, but rather, there are five films that will be the first released for rental via YouTube and each of the five will have a rental price of $3.99.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844472</id>
	<title>First five films</title>
	<author>Spyware23</author>
	<datestamp>1264079340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Bit more info on the first five films, taken from:  <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8471635.stm" title="bbc.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8471635.stm</a> [bbc.co.uk]</p><p>Summary: The first five films come from the Sundance Film Festival. The service will go live on 22 january, for US citizens only. The first five films available for rent are "The Cove," "Bass Ackwards," "One Too Many Mornings," "Homewrecker" and "Children of Invention."</p><p>Interesting excerpt from the BBC article: "Content providers will be able to set their own prices, with YouTube taking a cut of the revenue. All but one of the Sundance films is being offered for $3.99 (&pound;2.50) each for users to watch over a 48-hour viewing period."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Bit more info on the first five films , taken from : http : //news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8471635.stm [ bbc.co.uk ] Summary : The first five films come from the Sundance Film Festival .
The service will go live on 22 january , for US citizens only .
The first five films available for rent are " The Cove , " " Bass Ackwards , " " One Too Many Mornings , " " Homewrecker " and " Children of Invention .
" Interesting excerpt from the BBC article : " Content providers will be able to set their own prices , with YouTube taking a cut of the revenue .
All but one of the Sundance films is being offered for $ 3.99 (   2.50 ) each for users to watch over a 48-hour viewing period .
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<sentencetext>Bit more info on the first five films, taken from:  http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8471635.stm [bbc.co.uk]Summary: The first five films come from the Sundance Film Festival.
The service will go live on 22 january, for US citizens only.
The first five films available for rent are "The Cove," "Bass Ackwards," "One Too Many Mornings," "Homewrecker" and "Children of Invention.
"Interesting excerpt from the BBC article: "Content providers will be able to set their own prices, with YouTube taking a cut of the revenue.
All but one of the Sundance films is being offered for $3.99 (£2.50) each for users to watch over a 48-hour viewing period.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844202</id>
	<title>Re:No thanks</title>
	<author>Rogerborg</author>
	<datestamp>1264075320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Bandwidth won't be a problem for you in Oz; if Hulu is anything to go by (and I think it is) there's slim-to-no chance that this service will be available outside the US anyway.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Bandwidth wo n't be a problem for you in Oz ; if Hulu is anything to go by ( and I think it is ) there 's slim-to-no chance that this service will be available outside the US anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bandwidth won't be a problem for you in Oz; if Hulu is anything to go by (and I think it is) there's slim-to-no chance that this service will be available outside the US anyway.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844774</id>
	<title>Re:$2-$5 ?</title>
	<author>Kjella</author>
	<datestamp>1264082760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If what bothers you is not paying them back, then the best option is real simple:</p><p>1) Torrent away<br>2) Every so often, order the movies you liked best on DVD/BluRay and let the postal service handle the rest. Make it so that it averages what you "should have" been paying.</p><p>Downsides: Slightly anti-environmentalism, somewhat poor distribution of the money<br>Upsides: Excellent convenience, that fuzzy feeling, more money to the movies you really like and a permanent copy for those few you might wish to see again*,</p><p>* Though if you use Linux and order BluRays, you'll need AnyDVD HD on Windows in a virtualbox to rip it first.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If what bothers you is not paying them back , then the best option is real simple : 1 ) Torrent away2 ) Every so often , order the movies you liked best on DVD/BluRay and let the postal service handle the rest .
Make it so that it averages what you " should have " been paying.Downsides : Slightly anti-environmentalism , somewhat poor distribution of the moneyUpsides : Excellent convenience , that fuzzy feeling , more money to the movies you really like and a permanent copy for those few you might wish to see again * , * Though if you use Linux and order BluRays , you 'll need AnyDVD HD on Windows in a virtualbox to rip it first .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If what bothers you is not paying them back, then the best option is real simple:1) Torrent away2) Every so often, order the movies you liked best on DVD/BluRay and let the postal service handle the rest.
Make it so that it averages what you "should have" been paying.Downsides: Slightly anti-environmentalism, somewhat poor distribution of the moneyUpsides: Excellent convenience, that fuzzy feeling, more money to the movies you really like and a permanent copy for those few you might wish to see again*,* Though if you use Linux and order BluRays, you'll need AnyDVD HD on Windows in a virtualbox to rip it first.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30848678</id>
	<title>Re:I'll tell you what I want as a service.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264101240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Given all your free time if you want to minimize your payout to entertainment time ratio you may consider a new technology called books.  They're cheaper, they keep you both entertained and intellectually stimulated, and a single one can provide that entertainment for an entire day instead of just 2 hours.  Also many of them have the exact, or close to exact, same plot as the movies you're watching.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Given all your free time if you want to minimize your payout to entertainment time ratio you may consider a new technology called books .
They 're cheaper , they keep you both entertained and intellectually stimulated , and a single one can provide that entertainment for an entire day instead of just 2 hours .
Also many of them have the exact , or close to exact , same plot as the movies you 're watching .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Given all your free time if you want to minimize your payout to entertainment time ratio you may consider a new technology called books.
They're cheaper, they keep you both entertained and intellectually stimulated, and a single one can provide that entertainment for an entire day instead of just 2 hours.
Also many of them have the exact, or close to exact, same plot as the movies you're watching.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30845014</id>
	<title>I'll tell you what I want as a service.</title>
	<author>BlackHawk-666</author>
	<datestamp>1264084740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I watch a lot of films, and I'm on a pretty tight budget, so it needs to really provide bang-per-buck for me to be satisfied. I'm actually on a pension for now, so not only is the budget really tight, but I have a huge amount of free time to try and fill each day and TV is not helping.</p><p>I've always been into alternative cinema far more than the mainstream films, but I tend to watch most things short of chick flicks and summer student films. I like my anime, Japanese horror, Korean cinema, and French films along with all kinds of other World Cinema - so my local store is never going to satisfy my desires.</p><p>At present I fan-sub what I can, pirate what I have to, purchase on DVD/Bluray as much as possible and every so often make a trip to the local cinema. Over time the divx's will be replaced with DVDs/Bluray or they end up deleted.</p><p>I divide films into several categories: see at the cinema, rent on dvd, buy it, download.</p><p>Putting aside the option to see it at the cinema there are three other ways that a single company could fulfill my purchasing needs.</p><p>On the day they release it to the rental places, they could also open up the opportunity for me to download a DRM copy that I can view at home for 2-3 days. The cost should be at least slightly cheaper than the rental stores because they have no overhead costs besides bandwidth.</p><p>On the day the DVDs hit the stores they should allow me the opportunity to download a copy with no DRM beyond that a normal DVD has - i.e. an ISO image I can burn to DVD and the covers so I can print both on the media and the slips for the box. Pirates working out the back of a shop in Chinatown can manage this, any decent company should be able to also.</p><p>The third way would be to make a DIVX/XVID copy available some time after release, and I really can't see them doing this or even being able to compete with the warez group - it doesn't make sense - so there are really just two ways to capitolise on me.</p><p>Now here's what grinds my gears. If I go to the cinema, or rent a DVD from the shop prior to buying, I still pay full price for the DVD. There is in fact almost no incentive for me to ever rent a DVD since they release for purchase soon enough after. The same applies to a cinema version - and with electronic ticketing and digital projectors there seems little reason  not to propose this...if I paid you a whack of cash to see it at the cinema I should get a rebate on purchasing it to own.</p><p>Currently I might end up purchasing the "rights to view" a product three separate times. First it costs $22 AUS to view at the cinema, then $6 AUS to rent, then $30 AUS to buy to own. So on a really good title I have to pay a total of $58 AUS to see it at first release, then first home release, before finally buying to enjoy for the next few years.</p><p>So, what I want is this: Digital Rights Management - where I actually get "rights" and they are managed.</p><p>I want someone to whack up a pile of huge servers somewhere with plenty of bandwidth. When I pay my $22 for my cinema ticket I want that logged to my account and for them to offer me a modest discount on purchasing / renting the film in the future. When it's released to rental market I want that same site to let me know, and allow me to download the film. After I've seen the film I'd like to be able to indicate I want to purchase it on mainstream release, and get a decent sized discount on that. I'm a valued repeat customer, they should treat me like one and work hard to continue to do business with me. If for any reason whatsoever I lose a copy of a film I should be able to download it again at no cost. If a new print of the film comes out I should get access to this at minimal cost - why pay another $40 to buy the film again on Bluray when I already have a licence to watch it, and just want to see it in an improved bitrate/codec.</p><p>Currently I have to rent a film, just to see if it's even worth one watch, let alone the five or so watches that are required to break even on the cost of perhaps buying i</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I watch a lot of films , and I 'm on a pretty tight budget , so it needs to really provide bang-per-buck for me to be satisfied .
I 'm actually on a pension for now , so not only is the budget really tight , but I have a huge amount of free time to try and fill each day and TV is not helping.I 've always been into alternative cinema far more than the mainstream films , but I tend to watch most things short of chick flicks and summer student films .
I like my anime , Japanese horror , Korean cinema , and French films along with all kinds of other World Cinema - so my local store is never going to satisfy my desires.At present I fan-sub what I can , pirate what I have to , purchase on DVD/Bluray as much as possible and every so often make a trip to the local cinema .
Over time the divx 's will be replaced with DVDs/Bluray or they end up deleted.I divide films into several categories : see at the cinema , rent on dvd , buy it , download.Putting aside the option to see it at the cinema there are three other ways that a single company could fulfill my purchasing needs.On the day they release it to the rental places , they could also open up the opportunity for me to download a DRM copy that I can view at home for 2-3 days .
The cost should be at least slightly cheaper than the rental stores because they have no overhead costs besides bandwidth.On the day the DVDs hit the stores they should allow me the opportunity to download a copy with no DRM beyond that a normal DVD has - i.e .
an ISO image I can burn to DVD and the covers so I can print both on the media and the slips for the box .
Pirates working out the back of a shop in Chinatown can manage this , any decent company should be able to also.The third way would be to make a DIVX/XVID copy available some time after release , and I really ca n't see them doing this or even being able to compete with the warez group - it does n't make sense - so there are really just two ways to capitolise on me.Now here 's what grinds my gears .
If I go to the cinema , or rent a DVD from the shop prior to buying , I still pay full price for the DVD .
There is in fact almost no incentive for me to ever rent a DVD since they release for purchase soon enough after .
The same applies to a cinema version - and with electronic ticketing and digital projectors there seems little reason not to propose this...if I paid you a whack of cash to see it at the cinema I should get a rebate on purchasing it to own.Currently I might end up purchasing the " rights to view " a product three separate times .
First it costs $ 22 AUS to view at the cinema , then $ 6 AUS to rent , then $ 30 AUS to buy to own .
So on a really good title I have to pay a total of $ 58 AUS to see it at first release , then first home release , before finally buying to enjoy for the next few years.So , what I want is this : Digital Rights Management - where I actually get " rights " and they are managed.I want someone to whack up a pile of huge servers somewhere with plenty of bandwidth .
When I pay my $ 22 for my cinema ticket I want that logged to my account and for them to offer me a modest discount on purchasing / renting the film in the future .
When it 's released to rental market I want that same site to let me know , and allow me to download the film .
After I 've seen the film I 'd like to be able to indicate I want to purchase it on mainstream release , and get a decent sized discount on that .
I 'm a valued repeat customer , they should treat me like one and work hard to continue to do business with me .
If for any reason whatsoever I lose a copy of a film I should be able to download it again at no cost .
If a new print of the film comes out I should get access to this at minimal cost - why pay another $ 40 to buy the film again on Bluray when I already have a licence to watch it , and just want to see it in an improved bitrate/codec.Currently I have to rent a film , just to see if it 's even worth one watch , let alone the five or so watches that are required to break even on the cost of perhaps buying i</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I watch a lot of films, and I'm on a pretty tight budget, so it needs to really provide bang-per-buck for me to be satisfied.
I'm actually on a pension for now, so not only is the budget really tight, but I have a huge amount of free time to try and fill each day and TV is not helping.I've always been into alternative cinema far more than the mainstream films, but I tend to watch most things short of chick flicks and summer student films.
I like my anime, Japanese horror, Korean cinema, and French films along with all kinds of other World Cinema - so my local store is never going to satisfy my desires.At present I fan-sub what I can, pirate what I have to, purchase on DVD/Bluray as much as possible and every so often make a trip to the local cinema.
Over time the divx's will be replaced with DVDs/Bluray or they end up deleted.I divide films into several categories: see at the cinema, rent on dvd, buy it, download.Putting aside the option to see it at the cinema there are three other ways that a single company could fulfill my purchasing needs.On the day they release it to the rental places, they could also open up the opportunity for me to download a DRM copy that I can view at home for 2-3 days.
The cost should be at least slightly cheaper than the rental stores because they have no overhead costs besides bandwidth.On the day the DVDs hit the stores they should allow me the opportunity to download a copy with no DRM beyond that a normal DVD has - i.e.
an ISO image I can burn to DVD and the covers so I can print both on the media and the slips for the box.
Pirates working out the back of a shop in Chinatown can manage this, any decent company should be able to also.The third way would be to make a DIVX/XVID copy available some time after release, and I really can't see them doing this or even being able to compete with the warez group - it doesn't make sense - so there are really just two ways to capitolise on me.Now here's what grinds my gears.
If I go to the cinema, or rent a DVD from the shop prior to buying, I still pay full price for the DVD.
There is in fact almost no incentive for me to ever rent a DVD since they release for purchase soon enough after.
The same applies to a cinema version - and with electronic ticketing and digital projectors there seems little reason  not to propose this...if I paid you a whack of cash to see it at the cinema I should get a rebate on purchasing it to own.Currently I might end up purchasing the "rights to view" a product three separate times.
First it costs $22 AUS to view at the cinema, then $6 AUS to rent, then $30 AUS to buy to own.
So on a really good title I have to pay a total of $58 AUS to see it at first release, then first home release, before finally buying to enjoy for the next few years.So, what I want is this: Digital Rights Management - where I actually get "rights" and they are managed.I want someone to whack up a pile of huge servers somewhere with plenty of bandwidth.
When I pay my $22 for my cinema ticket I want that logged to my account and for them to offer me a modest discount on purchasing / renting the film in the future.
When it's released to rental market I want that same site to let me know, and allow me to download the film.
After I've seen the film I'd like to be able to indicate I want to purchase it on mainstream release, and get a decent sized discount on that.
I'm a valued repeat customer, they should treat me like one and work hard to continue to do business with me.
If for any reason whatsoever I lose a copy of a film I should be able to download it again at no cost.
If a new print of the film comes out I should get access to this at minimal cost - why pay another $40 to buy the film again on Bluray when I already have a licence to watch it, and just want to see it in an improved bitrate/codec.Currently I have to rent a film, just to see if it's even worth one watch, let alone the five or so watches that are required to break even on the cost of perhaps buying i</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844950</id>
	<title>Is this a joke?</title>
	<author>WinstonWolfIT</author>
	<datestamp>1264084200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Are they renting flicks in a tiny window with crap resolution? For more than<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.25US?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Are they renting flicks in a tiny window with crap resolution ?
For more than .25US ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are they renting flicks in a tiny window with crap resolution?
For more than .25US?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844138</id>
	<title>Re:flat rate?</title>
	<author>Stooshie</author>
	<datestamp>1264074480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you RTFS! it says, at the end of the first line for god's sake:

"Movie studios will be able to set their own prices"

But this is slashdot.

Ho Hum!</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you RTFS !
it says , at the end of the first line for god 's sake : " Movie studios will be able to set their own prices " But this is slashdot .
Ho Hum !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you RTFS!
it says, at the end of the first line for god's sake:

"Movie studios will be able to set their own prices"

But this is slashdot.
Ho Hum!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844356</id>
	<title>Re:International Viewing?</title>
	<author>bemymonkey</author>
	<datestamp>1264077960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why France?</p><p>Just curious.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why France ? Just curious .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why France?Just curious.
:)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30845018</id>
	<title>OK, let me pre-cache</title>
	<author>greyhueofdoubt</author>
	<datestamp>1264084740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I would use service even though I have netflix because I have Clearwire and therefore it takes 3 hours to watch a 90-minute movie. With netflix (and the daily show, and others), you can't just pause it and walk away until the video is halfway done loading- the silverlight or whatever halts the download when it gets a few seconds past the playhead.</p><p>It's already bad enough that some youtube videos download at the 20-40 KB/s range, while others download at 5 times that speed (it's not my connection- I've gone back and double checked). It's a real pleasure to load up a 3-minute video, pause it, and come back 6 minutes later to watch it.</p><p>So youtube/google, if you're reading this: I WANT TO GIVE YOU MY MONEY. I want to buy your service. DON'T FUCK IT UP LIKE EVERYONE ELSE (silverlight). And have a wonderful day<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>-b</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would use service even though I have netflix because I have Clearwire and therefore it takes 3 hours to watch a 90-minute movie .
With netflix ( and the daily show , and others ) , you ca n't just pause it and walk away until the video is halfway done loading- the silverlight or whatever halts the download when it gets a few seconds past the playhead.It 's already bad enough that some youtube videos download at the 20-40 KB/s range , while others download at 5 times that speed ( it 's not my connection- I 've gone back and double checked ) .
It 's a real pleasure to load up a 3-minute video , pause it , and come back 6 minutes later to watch it.So youtube/google , if you 're reading this : I WANT TO GIVE YOU MY MONEY .
I want to buy your service .
DO N'T FUCK IT UP LIKE EVERYONE ELSE ( silverlight ) .
And have a wonderful day : ) -b</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would use service even though I have netflix because I have Clearwire and therefore it takes 3 hours to watch a 90-minute movie.
With netflix (and the daily show, and others), you can't just pause it and walk away until the video is halfway done loading- the silverlight or whatever halts the download when it gets a few seconds past the playhead.It's already bad enough that some youtube videos download at the 20-40 KB/s range, while others download at 5 times that speed (it's not my connection- I've gone back and double checked).
It's a real pleasure to load up a 3-minute video, pause it, and come back 6 minutes later to watch it.So youtube/google, if you're reading this: I WANT TO GIVE YOU MY MONEY.
I want to buy your service.
DON'T FUCK IT UP LIKE EVERYONE ELSE (silverlight).
And have a wonderful day :)-b</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844876</id>
	<title>Re:$2-$5 ?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264083660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>but if the codec on option three is acceptable and it works here then I'll probably switch.</p></div><p>Do note that youtube already supports 1080p viewing and is encoded in h.264, making quality far better then that of DVD.</p><p>Now, will the option to rent in 720p and 1080p be available and for how much premium - that's a different question.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>but if the codec on option three is acceptable and it works here then I 'll probably switch.Do note that youtube already supports 1080p viewing and is encoded in h.264 , making quality far better then that of DVD.Now , will the option to rent in 720p and 1080p be available and for how much premium - that 's a different question .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>but if the codec on option three is acceptable and it works here then I'll probably switch.Do note that youtube already supports 1080p viewing and is encoded in h.264, making quality far better then that of DVD.Now, will the option to rent in 720p and 1080p be available and for how much premium - that's a different question.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844508</id>
	<title>There are just 2 questions:</title>
	<author>Opportunist</author>
	<datestamp>1264079820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Location and limitations</p><p>Where do you have to be and what limitations will there be imposed? What countries will be able to use that service, and what software setup is required for their DRM to accept my box as a suitable viewing device? Can I stream it from my box to my TV (let's be honest, who wants to view a movie on a 19" screen when they have a 44" with Dolbi surround and all the jazz?)?</p><p>That's basically what will make or break it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Location and limitationsWhere do you have to be and what limitations will there be imposed ?
What countries will be able to use that service , and what software setup is required for their DRM to accept my box as a suitable viewing device ?
Can I stream it from my box to my TV ( let 's be honest , who wants to view a movie on a 19 " screen when they have a 44 " with Dolbi surround and all the jazz ?
) ? That 's basically what will make or break it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Location and limitationsWhere do you have to be and what limitations will there be imposed?
What countries will be able to use that service, and what software setup is required for their DRM to accept my box as a suitable viewing device?
Can I stream it from my box to my TV (let's be honest, who wants to view a movie on a 19" screen when they have a 44" with Dolbi surround and all the jazz?
)?That's basically what will make or break it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844444</id>
	<title>48 hours</title>
	<author>Arancaytar</author>
	<datestamp>1264078980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Implies some pretty nasty DRM.</p><p>No thanks; but for several times that price, I might pay to download a video I can play permanently.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Implies some pretty nasty DRM.No thanks ; but for several times that price , I might pay to download a video I can play permanently .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Implies some pretty nasty DRM.No thanks; but for several times that price, I might pay to download a video I can play permanently.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844642</id>
	<title>Re:Piracy, the better choice</title>
	<author>betterunixthanunix</author>
	<datestamp>1264081380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Frankly, I am not all that opposed to paying for music and movies.  What I am opposed to is paying for music and movies, and then finding out that I cannot play it on my device of choice, or that my operating system is not supported, or that at some point there will be an attempt to prevent me from playing the media unless I pay again.  I do not want to lose access to the movie I paid for because someone claimed there was a copyright issue, even if I get my money back.<br> <br>

"Renting" digital media is the most ludicrously stupid concept I have ever heard of.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Frankly , I am not all that opposed to paying for music and movies .
What I am opposed to is paying for music and movies , and then finding out that I can not play it on my device of choice , or that my operating system is not supported , or that at some point there will be an attempt to prevent me from playing the media unless I pay again .
I do not want to lose access to the movie I paid for because someone claimed there was a copyright issue , even if I get my money back .
" Renting " digital media is the most ludicrously stupid concept I have ever heard of .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Frankly, I am not all that opposed to paying for music and movies.
What I am opposed to is paying for music and movies, and then finding out that I cannot play it on my device of choice, or that my operating system is not supported, or that at some point there will be an attempt to prevent me from playing the media unless I pay again.
I do not want to lose access to the movie I paid for because someone claimed there was a copyright issue, even if I get my money back.
"Renting" digital media is the most ludicrously stupid concept I have ever heard of.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844688</id>
	<title>Re:No thanks</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264081800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>More expensive that redbox(1 dollar), costs more than netflix which for less than 9 bucks I can dl all the movies I want. Less than many movies on demmand now. It seems like a big zero.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>More expensive that redbox ( 1 dollar ) , costs more than netflix which for less than 9 bucks I can dl all the movies I want .
Less than many movies on demmand now .
It seems like a big zero .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>More expensive that redbox(1 dollar), costs more than netflix which for less than 9 bucks I can dl all the movies I want.
Less than many movies on demmand now.
It seems like a big zero.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30845364</id>
	<title>FUCK THE MPAA</title>
	<author>themusicgod1</author>
	<datestamp>1264087020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm not sure about the rest of you, but I'm still boycotting them.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not sure about the rest of you , but I 'm still boycotting them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not sure about the rest of you, but I'm still boycotting them.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844656</id>
	<title>Re:No thanks</title>
	<author>BlackHawk-666</author>
	<datestamp>1264081500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Quite right, I can't get Hulu here (without presumably some proxy fun and games) so doubtless Netflix will shaft us too. Amazon is the same with their so called download service. Regardless, the point stands, it's more expensive and locks up the bandwidth, and uses up your allocation if you're capped.

Wonder if you get the extras too, or just the main film?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Quite right , I ca n't get Hulu here ( without presumably some proxy fun and games ) so doubtless Netflix will shaft us too .
Amazon is the same with their so called download service .
Regardless , the point stands , it 's more expensive and locks up the bandwidth , and uses up your allocation if you 're capped .
Wonder if you get the extras too , or just the main film ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Quite right, I can't get Hulu here (without presumably some proxy fun and games) so doubtless Netflix will shaft us too.
Amazon is the same with their so called download service.
Regardless, the point stands, it's more expensive and locks up the bandwidth, and uses up your allocation if you're capped.
Wonder if you get the extras too, or just the main film?</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844156</id>
	<title>Re:International Viewing?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264074660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well that's true for the EU as well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well that 's true for the EU as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well that's true for the EU as well.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30845072</id>
	<title>Why a fixed amount?</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1264085160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How about doing it like Magnatune or Kongregate?<br>Allow the uploader to choose a price range in which the viewer has to choose an amount.<br>And/or if no range is chosen (=free) there is a tip jar for quick payments.</p><p>Done.</p><p>Of course these all still are business models that ignore basic physics (that information is no real object, and therefore can not be a good / product. Ever). But it&rsquo;s better than nothing.</p><p>In the long run, one can only ask money for services. Like performing the song. Or like letting people sponsor a movie project (while in production) like a team of publishers/producers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How about doing it like Magnatune or Kongregate ? Allow the uploader to choose a price range in which the viewer has to choose an amount.And/or if no range is chosen ( = free ) there is a tip jar for quick payments.Done.Of course these all still are business models that ignore basic physics ( that information is no real object , and therefore can not be a good / product .
Ever ) . But it    s better than nothing.In the long run , one can only ask money for services .
Like performing the song .
Or like letting people sponsor a movie project ( while in production ) like a team of publishers/producers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about doing it like Magnatune or Kongregate?Allow the uploader to choose a price range in which the viewer has to choose an amount.And/or if no range is chosen (=free) there is a tip jar for quick payments.Done.Of course these all still are business models that ignore basic physics (that information is no real object, and therefore can not be a good / product.
Ever). But it’s better than nothing.In the long run, one can only ask money for services.
Like performing the song.
Or like letting people sponsor a movie project (while in production) like a team of publishers/producers.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844318</id>
	<title>This will get interesting...</title>
	<author>MrCrassic</author>
	<datestamp>1264077300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Considering that tons upon tons of people already use YouTube, I wonder how badly this will affect Netflix...I, for one, look forward to this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Considering that tons upon tons of people already use YouTube , I wonder how badly this will affect Netflix...I , for one , look forward to this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Considering that tons upon tons of people already use YouTube, I wonder how badly this will affect Netflix...I, for one, look forward to this.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844354</id>
	<title>Price is good, but...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264077900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> The first five films available to rent through YouTube will cost $3.99 for a 48-hour viewing period.</p> </div><p>$3.99 isn't bad for five films, but 48 hours isn't really enough time to watch them, unless you're hosting a movie marathon.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The first five films available to rent through YouTube will cost $ 3.99 for a 48-hour viewing period .
$ 3.99 is n't bad for five films , but 48 hours is n't really enough time to watch them , unless you 're hosting a movie marathon .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> The first five films available to rent through YouTube will cost $3.99 for a 48-hour viewing period.
$3.99 isn't bad for five films, but 48 hours isn't really enough time to watch them, unless you're hosting a movie marathon.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844330</id>
	<title>Re:$2-$5 ?</title>
	<author>smallfries</author>
	<datestamp>1264077480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Which is nice for you, but everybody lives in a different market. It seems unlikely that I will be able to use this service as I use a non-windows O/S in a non-US country, but if they do offer this properly then I have three choices :<br>1. Walk 100m to a video store, rent a dvd for 2 euro a night. As a bonus I get to cache a rip of the dvd in case I want to watch it again.<br>2. Download a CD sized compression of the dvd. That takes about an hour on my connection on a popular torrent. The disadvantage of this is the illegality - and I don't really care about the legal/civil distinction as the odds of being busted for this are a million to one where I live. What does bother me is that the people who made the movie don't get any payment for their work.<br>3. So now there is (maybe) an online rental option. So it will be more expensive (2.66 euro is unlikely so we will end up with either 3 or 4 euro). Like option one some money is going to flow back to the makers so I get a warm fuzzy feeling inside while I watch the movie. Like option two the codec is probably going to piss me off while I watch the film.</p><p>So which will win? It's not a total ordering because cost is not the only criteria. Option two wins on cost and picture quality. Option three wins on getting revenue back to the creators. For now option one is my preferred compromise, but if the codec on option three is acceptable and it works here then I'll probably switch.</p><p>(The option of keeping a copy for a longer viewing window is irrelevant for me - I rarely watch a film more than once).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Which is nice for you , but everybody lives in a different market .
It seems unlikely that I will be able to use this service as I use a non-windows O/S in a non-US country , but if they do offer this properly then I have three choices : 1 .
Walk 100m to a video store , rent a dvd for 2 euro a night .
As a bonus I get to cache a rip of the dvd in case I want to watch it again.2 .
Download a CD sized compression of the dvd .
That takes about an hour on my connection on a popular torrent .
The disadvantage of this is the illegality - and I do n't really care about the legal/civil distinction as the odds of being busted for this are a million to one where I live .
What does bother me is that the people who made the movie do n't get any payment for their work.3 .
So now there is ( maybe ) an online rental option .
So it will be more expensive ( 2.66 euro is unlikely so we will end up with either 3 or 4 euro ) .
Like option one some money is going to flow back to the makers so I get a warm fuzzy feeling inside while I watch the movie .
Like option two the codec is probably going to piss me off while I watch the film.So which will win ?
It 's not a total ordering because cost is not the only criteria .
Option two wins on cost and picture quality .
Option three wins on getting revenue back to the creators .
For now option one is my preferred compromise , but if the codec on option three is acceptable and it works here then I 'll probably switch .
( The option of keeping a copy for a longer viewing window is irrelevant for me - I rarely watch a film more than once ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Which is nice for you, but everybody lives in a different market.
It seems unlikely that I will be able to use this service as I use a non-windows O/S in a non-US country, but if they do offer this properly then I have three choices :1.
Walk 100m to a video store, rent a dvd for 2 euro a night.
As a bonus I get to cache a rip of the dvd in case I want to watch it again.2.
Download a CD sized compression of the dvd.
That takes about an hour on my connection on a popular torrent.
The disadvantage of this is the illegality - and I don't really care about the legal/civil distinction as the odds of being busted for this are a million to one where I live.
What does bother me is that the people who made the movie don't get any payment for their work.3.
So now there is (maybe) an online rental option.
So it will be more expensive (2.66 euro is unlikely so we will end up with either 3 or 4 euro).
Like option one some money is going to flow back to the makers so I get a warm fuzzy feeling inside while I watch the movie.
Like option two the codec is probably going to piss me off while I watch the film.So which will win?
It's not a total ordering because cost is not the only criteria.
Option two wins on cost and picture quality.
Option three wins on getting revenue back to the creators.
For now option one is my preferred compromise, but if the codec on option three is acceptable and it works here then I'll probably switch.
(The option of keeping a copy for a longer viewing window is irrelevant for me - I rarely watch a film more than once).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30845002</id>
	<title>Netflix Competition???</title>
	<author>NightHawkeye</author>
	<datestamp>1264084680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The pricing just doesn't seem competitive with Netflix. For $11 a month I usually get eight to ten blue-ray movies delivered to my mailbox, plus unlimited streaming.</p><p>Granted, $4 per viewing is better than $6 which the local cable company charges with their pay-per-view. But I've never used that either<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The pricing just does n't seem competitive with Netflix .
For $ 11 a month I usually get eight to ten blue-ray movies delivered to my mailbox , plus unlimited streaming.Granted , $ 4 per viewing is better than $ 6 which the local cable company charges with their pay-per-view .
But I 've never used that either .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The pricing just doesn't seem competitive with Netflix.
For $11 a month I usually get eight to ten blue-ray movies delivered to my mailbox, plus unlimited streaming.Granted, $4 per viewing is better than $6 which the local cable company charges with their pay-per-view.
But I've never used that either ...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844628</id>
	<title>What comes around...</title>
	<author>Muad'Dave</author>
	<datestamp>1264081200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So now we have DIVX (not the codec, the video rental plan) without the disk, and without the embedded security of the DIVX player.</p><p>Cracked in 5, 4, 3,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So now we have DIVX ( not the codec , the video rental plan ) without the disk , and without the embedded security of the DIVX player.Cracked in 5 , 4 , 3 , ... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So now we have DIVX (not the codec, the video rental plan) without the disk, and without the embedded security of the DIVX player.Cracked in 5, 4, 3, ....</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844270</id>
	<title>Interesting</title>
	<author>segedunum</author>
	<datestamp>1264076520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well, after my experiences with other such services - DRM attempts that just slow things down and stop it working or Silverlight with SkyTV in the UK (which is OK but isn't any better than showing video through Flash) - if YouTube and Google can be sensible about that not working then I'd happily pay some money to watch a film occasionally for convenience.<br> <br>

My spending on DVDs will still be higher, but if they get it right then I would happily pay to watch a film online for the first time ever - if they get it right that is.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , after my experiences with other such services - DRM attempts that just slow things down and stop it working or Silverlight with SkyTV in the UK ( which is OK but is n't any better than showing video through Flash ) - if YouTube and Google can be sensible about that not working then I 'd happily pay some money to watch a film occasionally for convenience .
My spending on DVDs will still be higher , but if they get it right then I would happily pay to watch a film online for the first time ever - if they get it right that is .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, after my experiences with other such services - DRM attempts that just slow things down and stop it working or Silverlight with SkyTV in the UK (which is OK but isn't any better than showing video through Flash) - if YouTube and Google can be sensible about that not working then I'd happily pay some money to watch a film occasionally for convenience.
My spending on DVDs will still be higher, but if they get it right then I would happily pay to watch a film online for the first time ever - if they get it right that is.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844050</id>
	<title>Indie films.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264073760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I hope that this will be a useful distribution and money-maker for Indie films.<br> <br>

Hopefully, it won't be stifled by the big studios.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I hope that this will be a useful distribution and money-maker for Indie films .
Hopefully , it wo n't be stifled by the big studios .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hope that this will be a useful distribution and money-maker for Indie films.
Hopefully, it won't be stifled by the big studios.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844096</id>
	<title>International Viewing?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264074180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I hope they allow people to use this service outside of the EU/US... I HATE not being able to use Hulu or Netflix or most of the Boxee services here Korea.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I hope they allow people to use this service outside of the EU/US... I HATE not being able to use Hulu or Netflix or most of the Boxee services here Korea .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hope they allow people to use this service outside of the EU/US... I HATE not being able to use Hulu or Netflix or most of the Boxee services here Korea.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844840</id>
	<title>At least it should work on Linux</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264083480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The yahoo article was light on details but since YouTube works just fine on a Linux box I can't think of good reason why the new rental service shouldn't play just fine on my Linux HTPC. Unless they do something stupid like require Silverlight w/DRM for the rentals. But if they are going to offer these rentals in a Linux friendly format I will definitely support that choice with rentals, especially if the XBMC or Boxxee teams release a nifty and stable YouTube movie rental plugin.</p><p>Cheers,</p><p>Josh</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The yahoo article was light on details but since YouTube works just fine on a Linux box I ca n't think of good reason why the new rental service should n't play just fine on my Linux HTPC .
Unless they do something stupid like require Silverlight w/DRM for the rentals .
But if they are going to offer these rentals in a Linux friendly format I will definitely support that choice with rentals , especially if the XBMC or Boxxee teams release a nifty and stable YouTube movie rental plugin.Cheers,Josh</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The yahoo article was light on details but since YouTube works just fine on a Linux box I can't think of good reason why the new rental service shouldn't play just fine on my Linux HTPC.
Unless they do something stupid like require Silverlight w/DRM for the rentals.
But if they are going to offer these rentals in a Linux friendly format I will definitely support that choice with rentals, especially if the XBMC or Boxxee teams release a nifty and stable YouTube movie rental plugin.Cheers,Josh</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844432</id>
	<title>Google muscling their way into another market..</title>
	<author>Skythe</author>
	<datestamp>1264078920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Will this be like <a href="http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90001/90778/90860/6858634.html" title="peopledaily.com.cn" rel="nofollow">Chrome beating our Safari's market share</a> [peopledaily.com.cn]? It did only take a year or two to overtake the 7+ year old Safari, I wonder if that will happen with this too, solely due to the size and name of Google.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Will this be like Chrome beating our Safari 's market share [ peopledaily.com.cn ] ?
It did only take a year or two to overtake the 7 + year old Safari , I wonder if that will happen with this too , solely due to the size and name of Google .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Will this be like Chrome beating our Safari's market share [peopledaily.com.cn]?
It did only take a year or two to overtake the 7+ year old Safari, I wonder if that will happen with this too, solely due to the size and name of Google.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844154</id>
	<title>$2-$5 ?</title>
	<author>dreamchaser</author>
	<datestamp>1264074660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The largest supermarket chain here rents most DVD's for $1.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The largest supermarket chain here rents most DVD 's for $ 1 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The largest supermarket chain here rents most DVD's for $1.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30846328</id>
	<title>Re:No thanks</title>
	<author>ClosedSource</author>
	<datestamp>1264091340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wow, you have limited bandwidth and you<br>waste it here?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow , you have limited bandwidth and youwaste it here ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow, you have limited bandwidth and youwaste it here?</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844910</id>
	<title>Flash</title>
	<author>DrYak</author>
	<datestamp>1264083900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>It seems unlikely that I will be able to use this service as I use a non-windows O/S in a non-US country</p></div><p>Content access restriction already exists in Youtube and isn't currently handled at all by code running on the client.<br>But code running on the server :<br>the server only accepts to stream data to users...<br>1. Whose IP corresponds to a country where the content is allowed (somethings might be available in EU but restricted elsewhere)<br>2. Who are logged in and have access (adult content only goes to users with an open session and are flagged adults in their accounts).</p><p>Very probably the same mechanism will be employed for the movie rentals : access management will probably be handled by the server, and client-side you'll only have a thin flash player.<br>So for non-Windows OS : As long as you have a x86 comptible CPU you'll be able to run the official Flash from Adobe and will not have problems (I mean, besides the fundamental problems due to crappy quality of Adobe's software itself).<br>Otherwise, you'll have to rely on 3rd party players. And - good luck - Youtube is one of the main target against which Gnash developers test their creation. It works not so bad with the current version of Youtube. So chances are high that the developers will keep up and fix their implementation of flash for anything required by the new Youtube.</p><p>The main problem will be legal : Youtube could probably rely on the crappy, useless RTMP:// protocol. This thing isn't even DRM-ed or otherwise properly protected, and has even been reverse engineered (google for <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=rtmpdump" title="google.com">RTMPDUMP</a> [google.com]). But nonetheless, it might be illegal in your jurisdiction depending on the wording of your local DMCA-clone law. (It's illegal in the USA, it's explicitly authorised in Switzerland if used within copyright/fair use limits).</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It seems unlikely that I will be able to use this service as I use a non-windows O/S in a non-US countryContent access restriction already exists in Youtube and is n't currently handled at all by code running on the client.But code running on the server : the server only accepts to stream data to users...1 .
Whose IP corresponds to a country where the content is allowed ( somethings might be available in EU but restricted elsewhere ) 2 .
Who are logged in and have access ( adult content only goes to users with an open session and are flagged adults in their accounts ) .Very probably the same mechanism will be employed for the movie rentals : access management will probably be handled by the server , and client-side you 'll only have a thin flash player.So for non-Windows OS : As long as you have a x86 comptible CPU you 'll be able to run the official Flash from Adobe and will not have problems ( I mean , besides the fundamental problems due to crappy quality of Adobe 's software itself ) .Otherwise , you 'll have to rely on 3rd party players .
And - good luck - Youtube is one of the main target against which Gnash developers test their creation .
It works not so bad with the current version of Youtube .
So chances are high that the developers will keep up and fix their implementation of flash for anything required by the new Youtube.The main problem will be legal : Youtube could probably rely on the crappy , useless RTMP : // protocol .
This thing is n't even DRM-ed or otherwise properly protected , and has even been reverse engineered ( google for RTMPDUMP [ google.com ] ) .
But nonetheless , it might be illegal in your jurisdiction depending on the wording of your local DMCA-clone law .
( It 's illegal in the USA , it 's explicitly authorised in Switzerland if used within copyright/fair use limits ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It seems unlikely that I will be able to use this service as I use a non-windows O/S in a non-US countryContent access restriction already exists in Youtube and isn't currently handled at all by code running on the client.But code running on the server :the server only accepts to stream data to users...1.
Whose IP corresponds to a country where the content is allowed (somethings might be available in EU but restricted elsewhere)2.
Who are logged in and have access (adult content only goes to users with an open session and are flagged adults in their accounts).Very probably the same mechanism will be employed for the movie rentals : access management will probably be handled by the server, and client-side you'll only have a thin flash player.So for non-Windows OS : As long as you have a x86 comptible CPU you'll be able to run the official Flash from Adobe and will not have problems (I mean, besides the fundamental problems due to crappy quality of Adobe's software itself).Otherwise, you'll have to rely on 3rd party players.
And - good luck - Youtube is one of the main target against which Gnash developers test their creation.
It works not so bad with the current version of Youtube.
So chances are high that the developers will keep up and fix their implementation of flash for anything required by the new Youtube.The main problem will be legal : Youtube could probably rely on the crappy, useless RTMP:// protocol.
This thing isn't even DRM-ed or otherwise properly protected, and has even been reverse engineered (google for RTMPDUMP [google.com]).
But nonetheless, it might be illegal in your jurisdiction depending on the wording of your local DMCA-clone law.
(It's illegal in the USA, it's explicitly authorised in Switzerland if used within copyright/fair use limits).
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844362</id>
	<title>Re:$2-$5 ?</title>
	<author>mxh83</author>
	<datestamp>1264078080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Actually I was talking about purchase, not renting.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually I was talking about purchase , not renting .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually I was talking about purchase, not renting.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844144</id>
	<title>Wow</title>
	<author>Celarnor</author>
	<datestamp>1264074540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/01/21/0323238/New-Study-Shows-Youth-Plugged-In-Most-of-The-Day?art\_pos=2" title="slashdot.org">Good timing</a> [slashdot.org], Google.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Good timing [ slashdot.org ] , Google .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Good timing [slashdot.org], Google.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844180</id>
	<title>Re:International Viewing?</title>
	<author>Rogerborg</author>
	<datestamp>1264075140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Huh, we don't even get Hulu in the 51st State, USS Great Britain.  I think there's slim-to-no chance of the YouTube service being available outside the US.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Huh , we do n't even get Hulu in the 51st State , USS Great Britain .
I think there 's slim-to-no chance of the YouTube service being available outside the US .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Huh, we don't even get Hulu in the 51st State, USS Great Britain.
I think there's slim-to-no chance of the YouTube service being available outside the US.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844134</id>
	<title>I'm curious about bitrate, codec and resolution</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264074480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Anyone managed to find any info?

If this ends up in the vicinity of what most of us are familiar with as mpeg-4 asp (or "divx/xvid" as most people erroneously call it) at around 640*352 of ~1mbps bitrate, then it is soooo not worth my pennies... Actually, if it's around that resolution, I'm not throwing money on it even if it's done with a good h.264 encoder.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Anyone managed to find any info ?
If this ends up in the vicinity of what most of us are familiar with as mpeg-4 asp ( or " divx/xvid " as most people erroneously call it ) at around 640 * 352 of ~ 1mbps bitrate , then it is soooo not worth my pennies... Actually , if it 's around that resolution , I 'm not throwing money on it even if it 's done with a good h.264 encoder .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anyone managed to find any info?
If this ends up in the vicinity of what most of us are familiar with as mpeg-4 asp (or "divx/xvid" as most people erroneously call it) at around 640*352 of ~1mbps bitrate, then it is soooo not worth my pennies... Actually, if it's around that resolution, I'm not throwing money on it even if it's done with a good h.264 encoder.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844714</id>
	<title>Is this US only? Like HULU and all those?</title>
	<author>VShael</author>
	<datestamp>1264082160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And will they make it available to small indie movies too?</p><p>There are MANY movies I have wanted to see, but the distribution channels just don't exist.</p><p>One recent film festival (Fantastic Fest, Austin 2008 I think) allowed you to stream the movies being showcased at the festival from anywhere in the world. It was great. I saw some excellent documentaries I would never have had the chance to see otherwise.</p><p>(Like the very disturbing "I think we're alone now" <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1152828/" title="imdb.com">http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1152828/</a> [imdb.com] )</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And will they make it available to small indie movies too ? There are MANY movies I have wanted to see , but the distribution channels just do n't exist.One recent film festival ( Fantastic Fest , Austin 2008 I think ) allowed you to stream the movies being showcased at the festival from anywhere in the world .
It was great .
I saw some excellent documentaries I would never have had the chance to see otherwise .
( Like the very disturbing " I think we 're alone now " http : //www.imdb.com/title/tt1152828/ [ imdb.com ] )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And will they make it available to small indie movies too?There are MANY movies I have wanted to see, but the distribution channels just don't exist.One recent film festival (Fantastic Fest, Austin 2008 I think) allowed you to stream the movies being showcased at the festival from anywhere in the world.
It was great.
I saw some excellent documentaries I would never have had the chance to see otherwise.
(Like the very disturbing "I think we're alone now" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1152828/ [imdb.com] )</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30848590</id>
	<title>Bandwidth != Quantity</title>
	<author>nuckfuts</author>
	<datestamp>1264100820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"Bandwidth" is a measure of throughput - the <em>rate</em> at which you can push data through your pipe. Nobody has unlimited bandwidth.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Bandwidth " is a measure of throughput - the rate at which you can push data through your pipe .
Nobody has unlimited bandwidth .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Bandwidth" is a measure of throughput - the rate at which you can push data through your pipe.
Nobody has unlimited bandwidth.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844440</id>
	<title>Re:Price is good, but...</title>
	<author>twoshortplanks</author>
	<datestamp>1264078980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I suspect that's meant to be read as "Google will be charging $3.99 for *each* of the five films that will be available on launch"</htmltext>
<tokenext>I suspect that 's meant to be read as " Google will be charging $ 3.99 for * each * of the five films that will be available on launch "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I suspect that's meant to be read as "Google will be charging $3.99 for *each* of the five films that will be available on launch"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844354</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30846392</id>
	<title>Don't feel too bad</title>
	<author>ClosedSource</author>
	<datestamp>1264091640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, at least your mobile phone options are better than what we have in the US.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , at least your mobile phone options are better than what we have in the US .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, at least your mobile phone options are better than what we have in the US.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844070</id>
	<title>Europe?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264073940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>TFA doesn't say anything about where the service will be availible. Will I and my fellow Dutchmen be able to use it?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>TFA does n't say anything about where the service will be availible .
Will I and my fellow Dutchmen be able to use it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>TFA doesn't say anything about where the service will be availible.
Will I and my fellow Dutchmen be able to use it?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30846136</id>
	<title>Re:48 hours</title>
	<author>maxume</author>
	<datestamp>1264090500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I would speculate that there are far more people interested in viewing a movie once than there are people interested in owning a copy of the movie.</p><p>I don't like the $3.99 price point (I don't care all that much for the instantaneous part and immediately compare the price to Netflix), but if I thought that more and more movies were going to be available for immediate rental for $1 or $2 in the future, I would be even less inclined to actually purchase them (I would go so far as to say that I would be fine with DRM locked to a single screen, as long as it was a smooth experience).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would speculate that there are far more people interested in viewing a movie once than there are people interested in owning a copy of the movie.I do n't like the $ 3.99 price point ( I do n't care all that much for the instantaneous part and immediately compare the price to Netflix ) , but if I thought that more and more movies were going to be available for immediate rental for $ 1 or $ 2 in the future , I would be even less inclined to actually purchase them ( I would go so far as to say that I would be fine with DRM locked to a single screen , as long as it was a smooth experience ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would speculate that there are far more people interested in viewing a movie once than there are people interested in owning a copy of the movie.I don't like the $3.99 price point (I don't care all that much for the instantaneous part and immediately compare the price to Netflix), but if I thought that more and more movies were going to be available for immediate rental for $1 or $2 in the future, I would be even less inclined to actually purchase them (I would go so far as to say that I would be fine with DRM locked to a single screen, as long as it was a smooth experience).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844444</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844220</id>
	<title>Re:International Viewing?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264075680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Us europeans pretty much always end up with the short end of the stick as well (when it's american companies providing the service, at best they'll provide their service to the US + UK (+ maybe France) but mostly it's just the US), but like Tanuki64 I just interpret Apple's silence regarding tv episodes in the iTunes store and Hulu's refusal to allow us swedes to use their service as "Please use Bittorrent".</p><p>/Mikael</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Us europeans pretty much always end up with the short end of the stick as well ( when it 's american companies providing the service , at best they 'll provide their service to the US + UK ( + maybe France ) but mostly it 's just the US ) , but like Tanuki64 I just interpret Apple 's silence regarding tv episodes in the iTunes store and Hulu 's refusal to allow us swedes to use their service as " Please use Bittorrent " ./Mikael</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Us europeans pretty much always end up with the short end of the stick as well (when it's american companies providing the service, at best they'll provide their service to the US + UK (+ maybe France) but mostly it's just the US), but like Tanuki64 I just interpret Apple's silence regarding tv episodes in the iTunes store and Hulu's refusal to allow us swedes to use their service as "Please use Bittorrent"./Mikael</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844152</id>
	<title>Piracy, the better choice</title>
	<author>Meneth</author>
	<datestamp>1264074660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.miraesoft.com/karel/2007/01/02/piracy-the-better-choice/" title="miraesoft.com">http://www.miraesoft.com/karel/2007/01/02/piracy-the-better-choice/</a> [miraesoft.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.miraesoft.com/karel/2007/01/02/piracy-the-better-choice/ [ miraesoft.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.miraesoft.com/karel/2007/01/02/piracy-the-better-choice/ [miraesoft.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844404</id>
	<title>Re:International Viewing?</title>
	<author>johnreedaw</author>
	<datestamp>1264078560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's not as if we can use many of those in the EU either...</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not as if we can use many of those in the EU either.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not as if we can use many of those in the EU either...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844096</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844426</id>
	<title>Re:Price is good, but...</title>
	<author>johnreedaw</author>
	<datestamp>1264078860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Be careful with those movie marathons, RIAA (or your local equivalent) might get you to pay a fee for it...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Be careful with those movie marathons , RIAA ( or your local equivalent ) might get you to pay a fee for it.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Be careful with those movie marathons, RIAA (or your local equivalent) might get you to pay a fee for it...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844354</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30854486</id>
	<title>No extras, no rental</title>
	<author>Chess Piece Face</author>
	<datestamp>1264079940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The price is bad enough, but what keeps me from streaming/downloading more movies is the lack of extras.  No alternate audio tracks, no subtitles (unless built in), just a movie.  That means foreign films forcing the dub version, no access to creator commentary, and I'll even watch the previews when they don't auto-load.  Everything that is great about DVDs is gone - might as well have us rewind the file before returning it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The price is bad enough , but what keeps me from streaming/downloading more movies is the lack of extras .
No alternate audio tracks , no subtitles ( unless built in ) , just a movie .
That means foreign films forcing the dub version , no access to creator commentary , and I 'll even watch the previews when they do n't auto-load .
Everything that is great about DVDs is gone - might as well have us rewind the file before returning it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The price is bad enough, but what keeps me from streaming/downloading more movies is the lack of extras.
No alternate audio tracks, no subtitles (unless built in), just a movie.
That means foreign films forcing the dub version, no access to creator commentary, and I'll even watch the previews when they don't auto-load.
Everything that is great about DVDs is gone - might as well have us rewind the file before returning it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844394</id>
	<title>Re:The big question for me is ...</title>
	<author>mxh83</author>
	<datestamp>1264078440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What's your point exactly?  YT works on linux.</htmltext>
<tokenext>What 's your point exactly ?
YT works on linux .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What's your point exactly?
YT works on linux.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844256</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844660</id>
	<title>Re:No thanks</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264081500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why the hell should I use my bandwidth AND pay for the privilage? I get capped at 2mbit for 4 hours if I download more than 1GB during peak time.<br> <br>
It is refreshing to see alternative business models being marketed to the movive/music industry, but these schemes really need to involve the ISP if they are to suceed, especially since as internet usuage increases, availible bandwidth decreases - and they aren't going to upgrade the networks any time soon.
<br> <br>Oh yeah, and if I pay to download a duplicate that only costs the supplier a fraction of wholesale fibre-time, I better be able to keep the copy.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why the hell should I use my bandwidth AND pay for the privilage ?
I get capped at 2mbit for 4 hours if I download more than 1GB during peak time .
It is refreshing to see alternative business models being marketed to the movive/music industry , but these schemes really need to involve the ISP if they are to suceed , especially since as internet usuage increases , availible bandwidth decreases - and they are n't going to upgrade the networks any time soon .
Oh yeah , and if I pay to download a duplicate that only costs the supplier a fraction of wholesale fibre-time , I better be able to keep the copy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why the hell should I use my bandwidth AND pay for the privilage?
I get capped at 2mbit for 4 hours if I download more than 1GB during peak time.
It is refreshing to see alternative business models being marketed to the movive/music industry, but these schemes really need to involve the ISP if they are to suceed, especially since as internet usuage increases, availible bandwidth decreases - and they aren't going to upgrade the networks any time soon.
Oh yeah, and if I pay to download a duplicate that only costs the supplier a fraction of wholesale fibre-time, I better be able to keep the copy.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844090</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30848282</id>
	<title>Re:No thanks</title>
	<author>fast turtle</author>
	<datestamp>1264099440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hell according to the caluclators, my 512Kbps download equals 165GB per month.</p><p>It's damn easy to refute your argument that 50GB is a lot of bandwidth per month as I've got over 3x that though it's not very fast.</p><p>I'm in the states and although I have a slow connection, it's 24/7 (supposedly) though according to a speed test this morning, I'm getting 6x down with 1.9x up speeds. Not bad when nobody is online.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hell according to the caluclators , my 512Kbps download equals 165GB per month.It 's damn easy to refute your argument that 50GB is a lot of bandwidth per month as I 've got over 3x that though it 's not very fast.I 'm in the states and although I have a slow connection , it 's 24/7 ( supposedly ) though according to a speed test this morning , I 'm getting 6x down with 1.9x up speeds .
Not bad when nobody is online .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hell according to the caluclators, my 512Kbps download equals 165GB per month.It's damn easy to refute your argument that 50GB is a lot of bandwidth per month as I've got over 3x that though it's not very fast.I'm in the states and although I have a slow connection, it's 24/7 (supposedly) though according to a speed test this morning, I'm getting 6x down with 1.9x up speeds.
Not bad when nobody is online.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844668</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844174</id>
	<title>Preemptive response</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264075020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Before some one brings up the ending of the article, DVDs and Blu-Rays are very profitable, remember this, a large number of films loose money in their theatrical release. DVDs are often the profits to a film but at times they are counted on to return principal. I was involved in a film last summer and it was hoped with distribution costs that it would break even in the theater but we couldn't count on that and similar films had only gone into profits towards the end of the initial DVD sales. It's not always about greed it's often just trying to get the investment returned. The goal is really to break even on most films and hope some are breakaways that do big numbers to make up for the ones that loose money. Sure everyone would love each film to be a hit but most actually do loose money. If they had to count strictly on theatrical and rentals then easily half the films wouldn't get made in the first place. Take away theatrical and go all rentals and most of the hit films wouldn't get made because they'd never have a hope of breaking even. This is the panic Hollywood is in over their future. Theatrical numbers may drop like a rock, ticket sales have been eroding for years it's only increased prices that have kept the numbers up. Without theatrical and DVD sales the average studio film would be effectively the same quality as a TV movie. That may be the future no matter what they do.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Before some one brings up the ending of the article , DVDs and Blu-Rays are very profitable , remember this , a large number of films loose money in their theatrical release .
DVDs are often the profits to a film but at times they are counted on to return principal .
I was involved in a film last summer and it was hoped with distribution costs that it would break even in the theater but we could n't count on that and similar films had only gone into profits towards the end of the initial DVD sales .
It 's not always about greed it 's often just trying to get the investment returned .
The goal is really to break even on most films and hope some are breakaways that do big numbers to make up for the ones that loose money .
Sure everyone would love each film to be a hit but most actually do loose money .
If they had to count strictly on theatrical and rentals then easily half the films would n't get made in the first place .
Take away theatrical and go all rentals and most of the hit films would n't get made because they 'd never have a hope of breaking even .
This is the panic Hollywood is in over their future .
Theatrical numbers may drop like a rock , ticket sales have been eroding for years it 's only increased prices that have kept the numbers up .
Without theatrical and DVD sales the average studio film would be effectively the same quality as a TV movie .
That may be the future no matter what they do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Before some one brings up the ending of the article, DVDs and Blu-Rays are very profitable, remember this, a large number of films loose money in their theatrical release.
DVDs are often the profits to a film but at times they are counted on to return principal.
I was involved in a film last summer and it was hoped with distribution costs that it would break even in the theater but we couldn't count on that and similar films had only gone into profits towards the end of the initial DVD sales.
It's not always about greed it's often just trying to get the investment returned.
The goal is really to break even on most films and hope some are breakaways that do big numbers to make up for the ones that loose money.
Sure everyone would love each film to be a hit but most actually do loose money.
If they had to count strictly on theatrical and rentals then easily half the films wouldn't get made in the first place.
Take away theatrical and go all rentals and most of the hit films wouldn't get made because they'd never have a hope of breaking even.
This is the panic Hollywood is in over their future.
Theatrical numbers may drop like a rock, ticket sales have been eroding for years it's only increased prices that have kept the numbers up.
Without theatrical and DVD sales the average studio film would be effectively the same quality as a TV movie.
That may be the future no matter what they do.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844730</id>
	<title>Re:No thanks</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264082280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>More expensive and worse quality than renting on my Apple TV.</p><p>I at least get full HD quality and get to watch it on my plasma using an apple TV.  youtube quality (even youtube HD) on my pc?  I'll pay $0.99 for a rental.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>More expensive and worse quality than renting on my Apple TV.I at least get full HD quality and get to watch it on my plasma using an apple TV .
youtube quality ( even youtube HD ) on my pc ?
I 'll pay $ 0.99 for a rental .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>More expensive and worse quality than renting on my Apple TV.I at least get full HD quality and get to watch it on my plasma using an apple TV.
youtube quality (even youtube HD) on my pc?
I'll pay $0.99 for a rental.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30845830</id>
	<title>Re:Price is good, but...</title>
	<author>Idiomatick</author>
	<datestamp>1264089240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Each man... each.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Each man... each .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Each man... each.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844336</id>
	<title>And thanks to Big Content...</title>
	<author>Max Romantschuk</author>
	<datestamp>1264077480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I will likely not be able to view any of them here in Finland.</p><p>(Not to mention that my Ubuntu desktop might not support whatever DRM they mandate.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I will likely not be able to view any of them here in Finland .
( Not to mention that my Ubuntu desktop might not support whatever DRM they mandate .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I will likely not be able to view any of them here in Finland.
(Not to mention that my Ubuntu desktop might not support whatever DRM they mandate.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844866</id>
	<title>Re:Piracy, the better choice</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264083600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I came to the conclusion about a year or two ago that it doesn't matter what the movie industry or music industry does now, I just can't bring myself to pay for their content.</p><p>I can probably afford to spend more on entertainment than most people, but money I have available for that is still finite, and as such I have to pick and choose who gets my money. The software industry hasn't been perfect, but it's been far less horrible this past decade than the music and movie industry so I've decided simply that they will no longer get a penny off me no matter what they do.</p><p>If I download their content then I'll hear arguments about how that's hypocritical, how that makes me a pirate, but frankly, so fucking what? It's not like I'm going to pretend I don't like some of the music and movies they produce, I just can't support the fact that they're willing to go as far as bribing/threatening foreign governments and courts, lobbying governments for removal of fundamental human rights and so forth. I'm not going to make myself suffer for going without the content I enjoy, frankly I'll just download it, and if that makes me a pirate so be it, I really don't care, piracy should really be seen as a badge of honour for the most part.</p><p>When the movie and music industry stop acting so morally corrupt they can start having a share of my pool of entertainment money again, until then yes, I'm a pirate, but like many pirates I imagine, still a pirate with cash- you just have to be the morally better company with the better product if you want to earn your share of it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I came to the conclusion about a year or two ago that it does n't matter what the movie industry or music industry does now , I just ca n't bring myself to pay for their content.I can probably afford to spend more on entertainment than most people , but money I have available for that is still finite , and as such I have to pick and choose who gets my money .
The software industry has n't been perfect , but it 's been far less horrible this past decade than the music and movie industry so I 've decided simply that they will no longer get a penny off me no matter what they do.If I download their content then I 'll hear arguments about how that 's hypocritical , how that makes me a pirate , but frankly , so fucking what ?
It 's not like I 'm going to pretend I do n't like some of the music and movies they produce , I just ca n't support the fact that they 're willing to go as far as bribing/threatening foreign governments and courts , lobbying governments for removal of fundamental human rights and so forth .
I 'm not going to make myself suffer for going without the content I enjoy , frankly I 'll just download it , and if that makes me a pirate so be it , I really do n't care , piracy should really be seen as a badge of honour for the most part.When the movie and music industry stop acting so morally corrupt they can start having a share of my pool of entertainment money again , until then yes , I 'm a pirate , but like many pirates I imagine , still a pirate with cash- you just have to be the morally better company with the better product if you want to earn your share of it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I came to the conclusion about a year or two ago that it doesn't matter what the movie industry or music industry does now, I just can't bring myself to pay for their content.I can probably afford to spend more on entertainment than most people, but money I have available for that is still finite, and as such I have to pick and choose who gets my money.
The software industry hasn't been perfect, but it's been far less horrible this past decade than the music and movie industry so I've decided simply that they will no longer get a penny off me no matter what they do.If I download their content then I'll hear arguments about how that's hypocritical, how that makes me a pirate, but frankly, so fucking what?
It's not like I'm going to pretend I don't like some of the music and movies they produce, I just can't support the fact that they're willing to go as far as bribing/threatening foreign governments and courts, lobbying governments for removal of fundamental human rights and so forth.
I'm not going to make myself suffer for going without the content I enjoy, frankly I'll just download it, and if that makes me a pirate so be it, I really don't care, piracy should really be seen as a badge of honour for the most part.When the movie and music industry stop acting so morally corrupt they can start having a share of my pool of entertainment money again, until then yes, I'm a pirate, but like many pirates I imagine, still a pirate with cash- you just have to be the morally better company with the better product if you want to earn your share of it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30935336</id>
	<title>Prediction</title>
	<author>JobyOne</author>
	<datestamp>1264700880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I predict overpriced rentals that expire at the drop of a hat, then use of the lack of interest as evidence against the viability of online business models.
<br> <br>
The MPAA doesn't want change, and they will screw their consumers and their own potential profits to make a case against it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I predict overpriced rentals that expire at the drop of a hat , then use of the lack of interest as evidence against the viability of online business models .
The MPAA does n't want change , and they will screw their consumers and their own potential profits to make a case against it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I predict overpriced rentals that expire at the drop of a hat, then use of the lack of interest as evidence against the viability of online business models.
The MPAA doesn't want change, and they will screw their consumers and their own potential profits to make a case against it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844312</id>
	<title>Re:No thanks</title>
	<author>JackieBrown</author>
	<datestamp>1264077240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is cheaper than pay-perview which would be the same type of audience.</p><p>Myself, I am waiting for my Wii netflix cd.  I hate early advertising because it hurts my need for immedite gratification<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:(</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is cheaper than pay-perview which would be the same type of audience.Myself , I am waiting for my Wii netflix cd .
I hate early advertising because it hurts my need for immedite gratification : (</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is cheaper than pay-perview which would be the same type of audience.Myself, I am waiting for my Wii netflix cd.
I hate early advertising because it hurts my need for immedite gratification :(</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30848574</id>
	<title>Re:48 hours</title>
	<author>Homburg</author>
	<datestamp>1264100700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It doesn't imply DRM at all. As YouTube has already made a significant investment into streaming video, I expect this will be a streaming service, too. Hulu and Amazon, among others, already offer streaming films, with the studios permission, using no more DRM than the obfuscation of using flash. I don't see why the situation would be any different for YouTube.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It does n't imply DRM at all .
As YouTube has already made a significant investment into streaming video , I expect this will be a streaming service , too .
Hulu and Amazon , among others , already offer streaming films , with the studios permission , using no more DRM than the obfuscation of using flash .
I do n't see why the situation would be any different for YouTube .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It doesn't imply DRM at all.
As YouTube has already made a significant investment into streaming video, I expect this will be a streaming service, too.
Hulu and Amazon, among others, already offer streaming films, with the studios permission, using no more DRM than the obfuscation of using flash.
I don't see why the situation would be any different for YouTube.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844276</id>
	<title>The bigger news is that Youtube may make a profit</title>
	<author>magloca</author>
	<datestamp>1264076640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>According to TFA, analysts expect Youtube to turn a profit this year. And, while it's not entirely clear, it appears that these analysts made this prediction before news of video rentals came out.</p><p>Whatever happened to <a href="http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/04/14/1630239" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">Google Losing Up To $1.65M a Day On YouTube</a> [slashdot.org]? And where is their revenue coming from, anyway? Can they really make that much from the relatively few ads they have, or is Google engaging in a little creative bookkeeping to make it appear that Youtube is doing great? Why would they do that?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>According to TFA , analysts expect Youtube to turn a profit this year .
And , while it 's not entirely clear , it appears that these analysts made this prediction before news of video rentals came out.Whatever happened to Google Losing Up To $ 1.65M a Day On YouTube [ slashdot.org ] ?
And where is their revenue coming from , anyway ?
Can they really make that much from the relatively few ads they have , or is Google engaging in a little creative bookkeeping to make it appear that Youtube is doing great ?
Why would they do that ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>According to TFA, analysts expect Youtube to turn a profit this year.
And, while it's not entirely clear, it appears that these analysts made this prediction before news of video rentals came out.Whatever happened to Google Losing Up To $1.65M a Day On YouTube [slashdot.org]?
And where is their revenue coming from, anyway?
Can they really make that much from the relatively few ads they have, or is Google engaging in a little creative bookkeeping to make it appear that Youtube is doing great?
Why would they do that?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844402</id>
	<title>Yeah, there needs to be DRM</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264078500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Just go look at IsoHunt for a new movie and see how many leechers and seeders there are you fucks. You've *proven* you can't be trusted. Stop acting like piracy doesn't exist.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just go look at IsoHunt for a new movie and see how many leechers and seeders there are you fucks .
You 've * proven * you ca n't be trusted .
Stop acting like piracy does n't exist .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just go look at IsoHunt for a new movie and see how many leechers and seeders there are you fucks.
You've *proven* you can't be trusted.
Stop acting like piracy doesn't exist.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_21_0343225.30844326</id>
	<title>Re:International Viewing?</title>
	<author>paziek</author>
	<datestamp>1264077420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I really doubt that it will be available outside US. Look at other products where Google needs some kind of deal with other company in order to provide service:<br>Nexus One? No Sir, you can't buy it.<br>Google Voice? Sir, you must be kidding. Only the Chosen Aryan race can have it, and that would be US residents.<br>On YouTube there is even certain polish band, with we in Poland can't watch, since their distributor doesn't allow that... beat this.</p><p>As a side note, I'm trying for a few days now to legally buy a certain song made by The Guild, but every site I come by says, its not available in my region, or - usually - its only available in US. I pretty much asked their distributor if I need to pirate it in order to have it, wonder what they say.</p><p>It really feels like companies treat people outside of USA like second rate humans, and for that (and many others) I came to extreme hate towards USA.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I really doubt that it will be available outside US .
Look at other products where Google needs some kind of deal with other company in order to provide service : Nexus One ?
No Sir , you ca n't buy it.Google Voice ?
Sir , you must be kidding .
Only the Chosen Aryan race can have it , and that would be US residents.On YouTube there is even certain polish band , with we in Poland ca n't watch , since their distributor does n't allow that... beat this.As a side note , I 'm trying for a few days now to legally buy a certain song made by The Guild , but every site I come by says , its not available in my region , or - usually - its only available in US .
I pretty much asked their distributor if I need to pirate it in order to have it , wonder what they say.It really feels like companies treat people outside of USA like second rate humans , and for that ( and many others ) I came to extreme hate towards USA .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I really doubt that it will be available outside US.
Look at other products where Google needs some kind of deal with other company in order to provide service:Nexus One?
No Sir, you can't buy it.Google Voice?
Sir, you must be kidding.
Only the Chosen Aryan race can have it, and that would be US residents.On YouTube there is even certain polish band, with we in Poland can't watch, since their distributor doesn't allow that... beat this.As a side note, I'm trying for a few days now to legally buy a certain song made by The Guild, but every site I come by says, its not available in my region, or - usually - its only available in US.
I pretty much asked their distributor if I need to pirate it in order to have it, wonder what they say.It really feels like companies treat people outside of USA like second rate humans, and for that (and many others) I came to extreme hate towards USA.</sentencetext>
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