<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_01_19_1946248</id>
	<title>Microsoft To Ship Emergency IE Patch</title>
	<author>kdawson</author>
	<datestamp>1263889560000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>Grotendo writes <i>"Microsoft plans to release an <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=5268">emergency patch for Internet Explorer very soon</a> to counter targeted attacks and the publication of exploit code for a 'browse and you're owned' vulnerability in its flagship Web browser. The out-of-band update will be released once the company is satisfied that it has been properly tested against all affected versions of Windows.  This could happen as early as this weekend."</i> Microsoft has <a href="//tech.slashdot.org/story/10/01/18/1343250/Microsoft-Says-Upgrade-To-IE8-Even-Though-Its-Vulnerable">downplayed the seriousness of the IE zero-day</a>, and insisted that it affects only IE6 even as security researchers <a href="http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9145958/Researchers\_up\_ante\_create\_exploits\_for\_IE7\_IE8">close in on exploits for IE7 and IE8</a>. Microsoft has had no comment about the firestorm that Google unleashed by directly accusing the Chinese of cyber espionage. ShadowServer has up a <a href="http://www.shadowserver.org/wiki/pmwiki.php/Calendar/20100119">sobering post</a> on the massive extent of the problem of "groups that can be referred to as the Advanced Persistent Threat."</htmltext>
<tokenext>Grotendo writes " Microsoft plans to release an emergency patch for Internet Explorer very soon to counter targeted attacks and the publication of exploit code for a 'browse and you 're owned ' vulnerability in its flagship Web browser .
The out-of-band update will be released once the company is satisfied that it has been properly tested against all affected versions of Windows .
This could happen as early as this weekend .
" Microsoft has downplayed the seriousness of the IE zero-day , and insisted that it affects only IE6 even as security researchers close in on exploits for IE7 and IE8 .
Microsoft has had no comment about the firestorm that Google unleashed by directly accusing the Chinese of cyber espionage .
ShadowServer has up a sobering post on the massive extent of the problem of " groups that can be referred to as the Advanced Persistent Threat .
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<sentencetext>Grotendo writes "Microsoft plans to release an emergency patch for Internet Explorer very soon to counter targeted attacks and the publication of exploit code for a 'browse and you're owned' vulnerability in its flagship Web browser.
The out-of-band update will be released once the company is satisfied that it has been properly tested against all affected versions of Windows.
This could happen as early as this weekend.
" Microsoft has downplayed the seriousness of the IE zero-day, and insisted that it affects only IE6 even as security researchers close in on exploits for IE7 and IE8.
Microsoft has had no comment about the firestorm that Google unleashed by directly accusing the Chinese of cyber espionage.
ShadowServer has up a sobering post on the massive extent of the problem of "groups that can be referred to as the Advanced Persistent Threat.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824894</id>
	<title>Re:IE is only good at one thing...</title>
	<author>dedazo</author>
	<datestamp>1263897600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>And that is running Windows Update</p></div></blockquote><p>Welcome to 2004, where we run WU as a standalone service that does not require IE at all.</p><p>What other unnecessary things do you do with IE? We stopped bathing the cat with it as well. In 2002, if I recall.</p><p>(actually the only thing I use it for these days is OWA, but OWA is so nice that I don't mind at all)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>And that is running Windows UpdateWelcome to 2004 , where we run WU as a standalone service that does not require IE at all.What other unnecessary things do you do with IE ?
We stopped bathing the cat with it as well .
In 2002 , if I recall .
( actually the only thing I use it for these days is OWA , but OWA is so nice that I do n't mind at all )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And that is running Windows UpdateWelcome to 2004, where we run WU as a standalone service that does not require IE at all.What other unnecessary things do you do with IE?
We stopped bathing the cat with it as well.
In 2002, if I recall.
(actually the only thing I use it for these days is OWA, but OWA is so nice that I don't mind at all)
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30826968</id>
	<title>Ignorent Fanboi/Astroturfer</title>
	<author>omb</author>
	<datestamp>1263908700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>1. Tabs are Tabs,<br><br>2. You only need a sandbox if you have open wounds, IE6 or are Immune Compromised that ie: Windoze* IE*,<br><br>3. You don't need NoScript,<br><br>4. ACID is a database test, and has nothing to do with HTML compliance, your ass and ignorance is showing!<br><br>5. We do care about HTML compliance and a commitment to inter-operate properly since it reduces complexity and simplifies testing, both of which cost a lot of money.<br><br>Isn't it time you moved out of your mother's basement?</htmltext>
<tokenext>1 .
Tabs are Tabs,2 .
You only need a sandbox if you have open wounds , IE6 or are Immune Compromised that ie : Windoze * IE * ,3 .
You do n't need NoScript,4 .
ACID is a database test , and has nothing to do with HTML compliance , your ass and ignorance is showing ! 5 .
We do care about HTML compliance and a commitment to inter-operate properly since it reduces complexity and simplifies testing , both of which cost a lot of money.Is n't it time you moved out of your mother 's basement ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1.
Tabs are Tabs,2.
You only need a sandbox if you have open wounds, IE6 or are Immune Compromised that ie: Windoze* IE*,3.
You don't need NoScript,4.
ACID is a database test, and has nothing to do with HTML compliance, your ass and ignorance is showing!5.
We do care about HTML compliance and a commitment to inter-operate properly since it reduces complexity and simplifies testing, both of which cost a lot of money.Isn't it time you moved out of your mother's basement?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30852334</id>
	<title>FriendlyTroll: Don't let the REAL TROLLS get 2U</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264071420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><div class="quote"><p><b>"Whether you like it or not, Opera is *massive* in Europe and has a far greater market share than you'd like to believe."</b> - by A Friendly Troll (1017492) on Tuesday January 19, @05:28PM (#30825616)</p></div><p>Per my subject-line above: Well, I BELIEVE YOU, &amp; here are the reasons as to why:</p><p>====</p><p><b>A.) For SPEED</b> (&amp; even in javascript for the LONGEST time, until FF's new engines took its place (until Opera 10.50 @ least, because that's gotten a decent "boost" in that area -&gt; <a href="http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/12/22/1911216" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/12/22/1911216</a> [slashdot.org] (not that it matters though, speeding up javascript is like asking to get infected by malscripted sites &amp;/or adbanners faster imo @ least - that of a "POV" of PC security, mostly)):</p><p><a href="http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html" title="howtocreate.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html</a> [howtocreate.co.uk]</p><p>and</p><p><a href="http://crave.cnet.co.uk/cnetuk/crave/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm" title="cnet.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://crave.cnet.co.uk/cnetuk/crave/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm</a> [cnet.co.uk]</p><p>AND</p><p><a href="http://nontroppo.org/timer/kestrel\_tests/" title="nontroppo.org" rel="nofollow">http://nontroppo.org/timer/kestrel\_tests/</a> [nontroppo.org]</p><p>(Opera "rocked the planet" in those cases... bigtime (&amp; ESPECIALLY ON THE MOST USED PLATFORM THERE IS, BAR-NONE, FOR PC-COMPUTING: Windows!))</p><p>----</p><p><b>AND, for SECURITY also</b> (less vulnerabilities present over time than IE or FF, per SECUNIA.COM stats):</p><p><b>INTERNET EXPLORER 8.x VULNERABILITIES STATS:</b>(01/21/2010)</p><p><a href="http://secunia.com/advisories/product/21625/?task=advisories" title="secunia.com" rel="nofollow">http://secunia.com/advisories/product/21625/?task=advisories</a> [secunia.com]</p><p>(<b>UNPATCHED = 4-8 / 50\%</b> (though 1 of them, the "Critical 'Out-of-Band' Cumulative Update IS patched, as of about 1 hr. ago (go get it those of you that use MS OS' that is...)))</p><p>---</p><p><b>FIREFOX 3.x VULNERABILITIES STATS:</b>(01/21/2010)</p><p>(<b>UNPATCHED = 0-6 / 0\%</b> (on this note, as you can see? FF had MORE advisories, over time as I noted, but... they've done a GREAT JOB in stopping that much (now, the same has to be said for their browser addons too, but that too, improves over time as well usually))</p><p>Most Critical Unpatched</p><p>There are no unpatched Secunia advisories affecting this product, when all vendor patches are applied..</p><p>----</p><p><b>OPERA 10.x VULNERABILITIES STATS:</b>(01/21/2010)</p><p><a href="http://secunia.com/advisories/product/26745/?task=statistics" title="secunia.com" rel="nofollow">http://secunia.com/advisories/product/26745/?task=statistics</a> [secunia.com]</p><p>(<b>UNPATCHED = 0-3 / 0\%</b> )</p><p>Most Critical Unpatched</p><p>There are no unpatched Secunia advisories affecting this product, when all vendor patches are applied..</p><p>====</p><p>Opera ROCKS, period (or, do the stats above make me a liar? I think not...) &amp;, it's been able to pass the "ACID TESTS" for compliance to web-based standards since version 6.x iirc, &amp; it was (iirc) actually the FIRST BROWSER (not development kit) to do so, but when counting dev kits, it was 2nd... correct me if I am "off" here on this last point though, guys, &amp; thanks.</p><p>APK</p><p>P.S.=&gt; Again though, I tend to believe you (&amp; Opera has a BIG "share-of-market" on MOBILE DEVICES as well, which others seem to overlook QUITE A BIT too)... Once more, imo @ least? Well - Opera's great!</p><p>I.E.-&gt; It took me away from being a FireFox user primarily in fact, because of it (&amp; FF + IE have copied Opera's features RAMPANTLY over time (e.g.-&gt; Tabbed Browsing anyone? As far as ADDONS also?? Heh, a LOT of what FF has in browser addons, Opera already has natively (minus the CPU usage + speed hits &amp; security vulnerabilities that webbrowser addons introduce (more than potentially too, ala Greasemonkey having that before (as only 1 single example)))... apk</p></div>
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<tokenext>" Whether you like it or not , Opera is * massive * in Europe and has a far greater market share than you 'd like to believe .
" - by A Friendly Troll ( 1017492 ) on Tuesday January 19 , @ 05 : 28PM ( # 30825616 ) Per my subject-line above : Well , I BELIEVE YOU , &amp; here are the reasons as to why : = = = = A .
) For SPEED ( &amp; even in javascript for the LONGEST time , until FF 's new engines took its place ( until Opera 10.50 @ least , because that 's gotten a decent " boost " in that area - &gt; http : //tech.slashdot.org/article.pl ? sid = 09/12/22/1911216 [ slashdot.org ] ( not that it matters though , speeding up javascript is like asking to get infected by malscripted sites &amp;/or adbanners faster imo @ least - that of a " POV " of PC security , mostly ) ) : http : //www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html [ howtocreate.co.uk ] andhttp : //crave.cnet.co.uk/cnetuk/crave/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm [ cnet.co.uk ] ANDhttp : //nontroppo.org/timer/kestrel \ _tests/ [ nontroppo.org ] ( Opera " rocked the planet " in those cases... bigtime ( &amp; ESPECIALLY ON THE MOST USED PLATFORM THERE IS , BAR-NONE , FOR PC-COMPUTING : Windows !
) ) ----AND , for SECURITY also ( less vulnerabilities present over time than IE or FF , per SECUNIA.COM stats ) : INTERNET EXPLORER 8.x VULNERABILITIES STATS : ( 01/21/2010 ) http : //secunia.com/advisories/product/21625/ ? task = advisories [ secunia.com ] ( UNPATCHED = 4-8 / 50 \ % ( though 1 of them , the " Critical 'Out-of-Band ' Cumulative Update IS patched , as of about 1 hr .
ago ( go get it those of you that use MS OS ' that is... ) ) ) ---FIREFOX 3.x VULNERABILITIES STATS : ( 01/21/2010 ) ( UNPATCHED = 0-6 / 0 \ % ( on this note , as you can see ?
FF had MORE advisories , over time as I noted , but... they 've done a GREAT JOB in stopping that much ( now , the same has to be said for their browser addons too , but that too , improves over time as well usually ) ) Most Critical UnpatchedThere are no unpatched Secunia advisories affecting this product , when all vendor patches are applied..----OPERA 10.x VULNERABILITIES STATS : ( 01/21/2010 ) http : //secunia.com/advisories/product/26745/ ? task = statistics [ secunia.com ] ( UNPATCHED = 0-3 / 0 \ % ) Most Critical UnpatchedThere are no unpatched Secunia advisories affecting this product , when all vendor patches are applied.. = = = = Opera ROCKS , period ( or , do the stats above make me a liar ?
I think not... ) &amp; , it 's been able to pass the " ACID TESTS " for compliance to web-based standards since version 6.x iirc , &amp; it was ( iirc ) actually the FIRST BROWSER ( not development kit ) to do so , but when counting dev kits , it was 2nd... correct me if I am " off " here on this last point though , guys , &amp; thanks.APKP.S. = &gt; Again though , I tend to believe you ( &amp; Opera has a BIG " share-of-market " on MOBILE DEVICES as well , which others seem to overlook QUITE A BIT too ) ... Once more , imo @ least ?
Well - Opera 's great ! I.E.- &gt; It took me away from being a FireFox user primarily in fact , because of it ( &amp; FF + IE have copied Opera 's features RAMPANTLY over time ( e.g.- &gt; Tabbed Browsing anyone ?
As far as ADDONS also ? ?
Heh , a LOT of what FF has in browser addons , Opera already has natively ( minus the CPU usage + speed hits &amp; security vulnerabilities that webbrowser addons introduce ( more than potentially too , ala Greasemonkey having that before ( as only 1 single example ) ) ) ... apk</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Whether you like it or not, Opera is *massive* in Europe and has a far greater market share than you'd like to believe.
" - by A Friendly Troll (1017492) on Tuesday January 19, @05:28PM (#30825616)Per my subject-line above: Well, I BELIEVE YOU, &amp; here are the reasons as to why:====A.
) For SPEED (&amp; even in javascript for the LONGEST time, until FF's new engines took its place (until Opera 10.50 @ least, because that's gotten a decent "boost" in that area -&gt; http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/12/22/1911216 [slashdot.org] (not that it matters though, speeding up javascript is like asking to get infected by malscripted sites &amp;/or adbanners faster imo @ least - that of a "POV" of PC security, mostly)):http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html [howtocreate.co.uk]andhttp://crave.cnet.co.uk/cnetuk/crave/software/0,39029471,49302491,00.htm [cnet.co.uk]ANDhttp://nontroppo.org/timer/kestrel\_tests/ [nontroppo.org](Opera "rocked the planet" in those cases... bigtime (&amp; ESPECIALLY ON THE MOST USED PLATFORM THERE IS, BAR-NONE, FOR PC-COMPUTING: Windows!
))----AND, for SECURITY also (less vulnerabilities present over time than IE or FF, per SECUNIA.COM stats):INTERNET EXPLORER 8.x VULNERABILITIES STATS:(01/21/2010)http://secunia.com/advisories/product/21625/?task=advisories [secunia.com](UNPATCHED = 4-8 / 50\% (though 1 of them, the "Critical 'Out-of-Band' Cumulative Update IS patched, as of about 1 hr.
ago (go get it those of you that use MS OS' that is...)))---FIREFOX 3.x VULNERABILITIES STATS:(01/21/2010)(UNPATCHED = 0-6 / 0\% (on this note, as you can see?
FF had MORE advisories, over time as I noted, but... they've done a GREAT JOB in stopping that much (now, the same has to be said for their browser addons too, but that too, improves over time as well usually))Most Critical UnpatchedThere are no unpatched Secunia advisories affecting this product, when all vendor patches are applied..----OPERA 10.x VULNERABILITIES STATS:(01/21/2010)http://secunia.com/advisories/product/26745/?task=statistics [secunia.com](UNPATCHED = 0-3 / 0\% )Most Critical UnpatchedThere are no unpatched Secunia advisories affecting this product, when all vendor patches are applied..====Opera ROCKS, period (or, do the stats above make me a liar?
I think not...) &amp;, it's been able to pass the "ACID TESTS" for compliance to web-based standards since version 6.x iirc, &amp; it was (iirc) actually the FIRST BROWSER (not development kit) to do so, but when counting dev kits, it was 2nd... correct me if I am "off" here on this last point though, guys, &amp; thanks.APKP.S.=&gt; Again though, I tend to believe you (&amp; Opera has a BIG "share-of-market" on MOBILE DEVICES as well, which others seem to overlook QUITE A BIT too)... Once more, imo @ least?
Well - Opera's great!I.E.-&gt; It took me away from being a FireFox user primarily in fact, because of it (&amp; FF + IE have copied Opera's features RAMPANTLY over time (e.g.-&gt; Tabbed Browsing anyone?
As far as ADDONS also??
Heh, a LOT of what FF has in browser addons, Opera already has natively (minus the CPU usage + speed hits &amp; security vulnerabilities that webbrowser addons introduce (more than potentially too, ala Greasemonkey having that before (as only 1 single example)))... apk
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824334</id>
	<title>Re:IE is only good at one thing...</title>
	<author>QuantumRiff</author>
	<datestamp>1263894780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Shh, don't tell anyone...</p><p>&gt;wuauclt<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/detectnow</p><p>Forces the update.exe agent to check.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Shh , do n't tell anyone... &gt; wuauclt /detectnowForces the update.exe agent to check .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Shh, don't tell anyone...&gt;wuauclt /detectnowForces the update.exe agent to check.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824132</id>
	<title>IE is only good at one thing...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263893760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And that is running Windows Update and it isn't that good at doing that....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And that is running Windows Update and it is n't that good at doing that... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And that is running Windows Update and it isn't that good at doing that....</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824100</id>
	<title>Countering attacks?</title>
	<author>jhol13</author>
	<datestamp>1263893580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Microsoft is not "countering the targeted attacks".</p><p>Unless of course the German and France CERT teams recommendation to ditch IE is considered one.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Microsoft is not " countering the targeted attacks " .Unless of course the German and France CERT teams recommendation to ditch IE is considered one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Microsoft is not "countering the targeted attacks".Unless of course the German and France CERT teams recommendation to ditch IE is considered one.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30825398</id>
	<title>"Emergency" reaction</title>
	<author>burkmat</author>
	<datestamp>1263899520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wow, so that's... 4 days after full disclosure that they announce their response. <br>
<br>
"Could be here as soon as this weekend", which is still more than a week from the exploit being published. That's swell.<br>
Anyone else grateful MSFT doesn't run the fire department?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow , so that 's... 4 days after full disclosure that they announce their response .
" Could be here as soon as this weekend " , which is still more than a week from the exploit being published .
That 's swell .
Anyone else grateful MSFT does n't run the fire department ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow, so that's... 4 days after full disclosure that they announce their response.
"Could be here as soon as this weekend", which is still more than a week from the exploit being published.
That's swell.
Anyone else grateful MSFT doesn't run the fire department?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30825306</id>
	<title>Re:IE is only good at one thing...</title>
	<author>Yvanhoe</author>
	<datestamp>1263899160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>To be fair it is also a good firefox downloader.</htmltext>
<tokenext>To be fair it is also a good firefox downloader .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To be fair it is also a good firefox downloader.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824104</id>
	<title>I have the patch details:</title>
	<author>rehtonAesoohC</author>
	<datestamp>1263893580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>It uninstalls all versions of Internet Explorer and installs Firefox with Adblock pre-installed.<br> <br>Bravo Microsoft!</htmltext>
<tokenext>It uninstalls all versions of Internet Explorer and installs Firefox with Adblock pre-installed .
Bravo Microsoft !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It uninstalls all versions of Internet Explorer and installs Firefox with Adblock pre-installed.
Bravo Microsoft!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30825010</id>
	<title>Re:To little to late</title>
	<author>Culture20</author>
	<datestamp>1263898020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>And what's going to happen to all those "IE only" web sites the government, public schools and other agencies like to use?</p></div><p>They'll still exist, but the error page might get changed to:<br>
"This page is IE only.  Type '?browser=firefox' at the end of the URL to be automatically moved to the non-IE page.  Safari users type '?browser=firefox' too.  There are no other browsers *Jedi hand wave*."</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>And what 's going to happen to all those " IE only " web sites the government , public schools and other agencies like to use ? They 'll still exist , but the error page might get changed to : " This page is IE only .
Type ' ? browser = firefox ' at the end of the URL to be automatically moved to the non-IE page .
Safari users type ' ? browser = firefox ' too .
There are no other browsers * Jedi hand wave * .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And what's going to happen to all those "IE only" web sites the government, public schools and other agencies like to use?They'll still exist, but the error page might get changed to:
"This page is IE only.
Type '?browser=firefox' at the end of the URL to be automatically moved to the non-IE page.
Safari users type '?browser=firefox' too.
There are no other browsers *Jedi hand wave*.
"
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824722</id>
	<title>Regarding that so called sobering post.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263896760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>.. what a one-sided crock.</p><p>If you were under attack from a foreign entity wouldn't you fight back with everything you had? <a href="http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/may/12/china-bolsters-for-cyber-arms-race-with-us/" title="washingtontimes.com" rel="nofollow">Chicken, meet egg</a> [washingtontimes.com].</p><blockquote><div><p>Mr. Coleman said China's military is equal to U.S. and Russian military cyberwarfare.</p><p>"This is a three-horse race, and it is a dead heat," Mr. Coleman said.</p></div></blockquote><p>The US has been attacking China for years and vice versa. Let's be honest here. If either let their guard down there'd be more of a victim than a search engine and advertising company.</p></div>
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<tokenext>.. what a one-sided crock.If you were under attack from a foreign entity would n't you fight back with everything you had ?
Chicken , meet egg [ washingtontimes.com ] .Mr .
Coleman said China 's military is equal to U.S. and Russian military cyberwarfare .
" This is a three-horse race , and it is a dead heat , " Mr. Coleman said.The US has been attacking China for years and vice versa .
Let 's be honest here .
If either let their guard down there 'd be more of a victim than a search engine and advertising company .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>.. what a one-sided crock.If you were under attack from a foreign entity wouldn't you fight back with everything you had?
Chicken, meet egg [washingtontimes.com].Mr.
Coleman said China's military is equal to U.S. and Russian military cyberwarfare.
"This is a three-horse race, and it is a dead heat," Mr. Coleman said.The US has been attacking China for years and vice versa.
Let's be honest here.
If either let their guard down there'd be more of a victim than a search engine and advertising company.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30825674</id>
	<title>Gn44</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263900720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><A HREF="http://goat.cx/" title="goat.cx" rel="nofollow">when 3one playing example, if you every day...Like Is not prone to are aboeut 7000/5 clear she couldn't percent of the *BSD On my Pentium Pro knows that ever</a> [goat.cx]</htmltext>
<tokenext>when 3one playing example , if you every day...Like Is not prone to are aboeut 7000/5 clear she could n't percent of the * BSD On my Pentium Pro knows that ever [ goat.cx ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>when 3one playing example, if you every day...Like Is not prone to are aboeut 7000/5 clear she couldn't percent of the *BSD On my Pentium Pro knows that ever [goat.cx]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824780</id>
	<title>Stop the madness</title>
	<author>xednieht</author>
	<datestamp>1263897120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Instead of releasing more trash - recall IE.  Problem solved.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Instead of releasing more trash - recall IE .
Problem solved .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Instead of releasing more trash - recall IE.
Problem solved.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824060</id>
	<title>No comment?</title>
	<author>VojakSvejk</author>
	<datestamp>1263893460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think microsoft have <a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/18/microsoft\_no\_china\_exit/" title="theregister.co.uk" rel="nofollow">commented</a> [theregister.co.uk] on the firestorm... wonder why Ballmer wanted to make it out as no big deal?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think microsoft have commented [ theregister.co.uk ] on the firestorm... wonder why Ballmer wanted to make it out as no big deal ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think microsoft have commented [theregister.co.uk] on the firestorm... wonder why Ballmer wanted to make it out as no big deal?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30828654</id>
	<title>Re:Enough is enough!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263925020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hurry!  Someone register ie7nomore.com, ie8nomore.com, ie9nomore.com...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hurry !
Someone register ie7nomore.com , ie8nomore.com , ie9nomore.com.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hurry!
Someone register ie7nomore.com, ie8nomore.com, ie9nomore.com...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824356</id>
	<title>Re:IE is only good at one thing...</title>
	<author>Enderandrew</author>
	<datestamp>1263894900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I really enjoy that in Vista and 7, Windows Update is a standalone app. I don't have to fire up IE to grab updates.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I really enjoy that in Vista and 7 , Windows Update is a standalone app .
I do n't have to fire up IE to grab updates .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I really enjoy that in Vista and 7, Windows Update is a standalone app.
I don't have to fire up IE to grab updates.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824004</id>
	<title>0!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263893280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>comment!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>comment !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>comment!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30825980</id>
	<title>Re:Enough is enough!</title>
	<author>bunratty</author>
	<datestamp>1263902100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opera\_(web\_browser)#Market\_adoption" title="wikipedia.org">Opera is massive in Eastern Europe</a> [wikipedia.org]. On Russian, Ukrainian, and Polish sites it makes sense to push Opera. But does it make sense to push Opera to English users, based on Opera usage on mobile devices, when most visitors to the site are using a desktop browser? A <a href="http://jboriss.wordpress.com/2010/01/13/mechanical-turk-studies-show-ie-users-discontent-a-growing-interest-in-chrome/" title="wordpress.com">study done by a Mozilla employee</a> [wordpress.com] shows users are more willing to switch to Chrome or Firefox. Few users of non-Opera browsers are willing to switch to Opera.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Opera is massive in Eastern Europe [ wikipedia.org ] .
On Russian , Ukrainian , and Polish sites it makes sense to push Opera .
But does it make sense to push Opera to English users , based on Opera usage on mobile devices , when most visitors to the site are using a desktop browser ?
A study done by a Mozilla employee [ wordpress.com ] shows users are more willing to switch to Chrome or Firefox .
Few users of non-Opera browsers are willing to switch to Opera .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Opera is massive in Eastern Europe [wikipedia.org].
On Russian, Ukrainian, and Polish sites it makes sense to push Opera.
But does it make sense to push Opera to English users, based on Opera usage on mobile devices, when most visitors to the site are using a desktop browser?
A study done by a Mozilla employee [wordpress.com] shows users are more willing to switch to Chrome or Firefox.
Few users of non-Opera browsers are willing to switch to Opera.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824168</id>
	<title>How to create exploit for IE7-8</title>
	<author>tokul</author>
	<datestamp>1263893940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Microsoft only has to say that IE6 is vulnerable and IE7-8 can't be exploited using same attack. The net will do the rest.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Microsoft only has to say that IE6 is vulnerable and IE7-8 ca n't be exploited using same attack .
The net will do the rest .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Microsoft only has to say that IE6 is vulnerable and IE7-8 can't be exploited using same attack.
The net will do the rest.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824730</id>
	<title>Re:Enough is enough!</title>
	<author>Ogive17</author>
	<datestamp>1263896880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've asked our local IT guy (contractor) if the company had any plans to upgrade from IE 6 and he said no.  Our HQ is on the left coast and that's where the ISD dept. resides.  There are probably a couple applications that won't work properly with any other browser and that's keeping us with 6.  Around the country we probably have a couple thousand work stations.<br>
<br>
I don't know anyone else who uses IE and hasn't upgraded to IE8.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've asked our local IT guy ( contractor ) if the company had any plans to upgrade from IE 6 and he said no .
Our HQ is on the left coast and that 's where the ISD dept .
resides. There are probably a couple applications that wo n't work properly with any other browser and that 's keeping us with 6 .
Around the country we probably have a couple thousand work stations .
I do n't know anyone else who uses IE and has n't upgraded to IE8 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've asked our local IT guy (contractor) if the company had any plans to upgrade from IE 6 and he said no.
Our HQ is on the left coast and that's where the ISD dept.
resides.  There are probably a couple applications that won't work properly with any other browser and that's keeping us with 6.
Around the country we probably have a couple thousand work stations.
I don't know anyone else who uses IE and hasn't upgraded to IE8.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824546</id>
	<title>Re:Enough is enough!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263895800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Considering how many single purpose devices I work on that still use IBM/MS DOS 3.3 I suspect IE6 will be dominant until corporations are forced to migrate to Win7/8. Big companies are spending their money on things that make them MORE money. Upgrading to IE 7/8 is NOT free and since IE6 "works" in the eyes of the boss there is no "need" to upgrade. I'm not aware of an enterprise deployment feature for FireFox or Chrome. I believe Opera may have one but I don't think it is free. Since XP and IE6 for the majority of enterprises is good enough nothing short of Microsoft pulling the plug on XP and thus IE6 will get those entities to address the issue of their IE6 locked web site / application. That time is coming barring any further extensions from Microsoft but it is still years away (currently 4/8/2014). Where I work they have taken 2 years rewriting our intranet web applications to work with IE7 but as of yet have no plans to migrate anyone and simply roll IE7 to new builds...of XP Pro. But feel free to continue to deride IE6 users sternly to your hearts content as they stare back with that deer in the headlights gaze.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Considering how many single purpose devices I work on that still use IBM/MS DOS 3.3 I suspect IE6 will be dominant until corporations are forced to migrate to Win7/8 .
Big companies are spending their money on things that make them MORE money .
Upgrading to IE 7/8 is NOT free and since IE6 " works " in the eyes of the boss there is no " need " to upgrade .
I 'm not aware of an enterprise deployment feature for FireFox or Chrome .
I believe Opera may have one but I do n't think it is free .
Since XP and IE6 for the majority of enterprises is good enough nothing short of Microsoft pulling the plug on XP and thus IE6 will get those entities to address the issue of their IE6 locked web site / application .
That time is coming barring any further extensions from Microsoft but it is still years away ( currently 4/8/2014 ) .
Where I work they have taken 2 years rewriting our intranet web applications to work with IE7 but as of yet have no plans to migrate anyone and simply roll IE7 to new builds...of XP Pro .
But feel free to continue to deride IE6 users sternly to your hearts content as they stare back with that deer in the headlights gaze .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Considering how many single purpose devices I work on that still use IBM/MS DOS 3.3 I suspect IE6 will be dominant until corporations are forced to migrate to Win7/8.
Big companies are spending their money on things that make them MORE money.
Upgrading to IE 7/8 is NOT free and since IE6 "works" in the eyes of the boss there is no "need" to upgrade.
I'm not aware of an enterprise deployment feature for FireFox or Chrome.
I believe Opera may have one but I don't think it is free.
Since XP and IE6 for the majority of enterprises is good enough nothing short of Microsoft pulling the plug on XP and thus IE6 will get those entities to address the issue of their IE6 locked web site / application.
That time is coming barring any further extensions from Microsoft but it is still years away (currently 4/8/2014).
Where I work they have taken 2 years rewriting our intranet web applications to work with IE7 but as of yet have no plans to migrate anyone and simply roll IE7 to new builds...of XP Pro.
But feel free to continue to deride IE6 users sternly to your hearts content as they stare back with that deer in the headlights gaze.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824490</id>
	<title>So glad</title>
	<author>goldaryn</author>
	<datestamp>1263895560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm so glad I upgraded from XP to Windows 7; with multi-core optimisations and improved app performance, I'm compromised faster than ever before!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm so glad I upgraded from XP to Windows 7 ; with multi-core optimisations and improved app performance , I 'm compromised faster than ever before !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm so glad I upgraded from XP to Windows 7; with multi-core optimisations and improved app performance, I'm compromised faster than ever before!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30830960</id>
	<title>HOSTS files are better than ADBLOCK</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263998040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><div class="quote"><p><b>"It uninstalls all versions of Internet Explorer and installs Firefox with Adblock pre-installed."</b> - by rehtonAesoohC (954490) on Tuesday January 19, @03:33PM (#30824104)</p></div><p>HOSTS files are a superior solution vs. Adblock, &amp; here is how + why:</p><p><b>10 POINTS IN FAVOR OF HOSTS FILES vs. ADBLOCK:</b></p><p>----</p><p>1.) HOSTS files eat no CPU cycles like browser addons do no less!</p><p>2.) HOSTS files are a solution (for security) which also globally extends to EVERY WEBBOUND APP YOU HAVE</p><p>3.) HOSTS files are also NOT severely LIMITED TO 1 BROWSER FAMILY ONLY... browser addons, are.</p><p>4.) HOSTS files also can speed up (all apps that are webbound) any app you have that goes to the internet.</p><p>5.) HOSTS files are EASILY user controlled, obtained (for reliable + regularly updated ones -&gt; <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hosts\_file" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hosts\_file</a> [wikipedia.org] (mvps.org's is a GREAT choice there)) &amp; edited too + via any text editor (which every system has).</p><p>6.) HOSTS files aren't as vulnerable to "bugs" either like programs/libs/extensions of that nature are (OR, even DNS servers).</p><p>7.) HOSTS files are also EASILY secured well, via write-protection "read-only" attributes set on them, or more radically, via ACL's even</p><p>8.) HOSTS files allow you to bypass DNS Server requests logs (via hardcoding your favorite sites into a HOSTS file to avoid not only the TIME taken roundtrip to an external DNS server, but also for avoiding those logs OR a DNS server that has been compromised (see Dan Kaminsky online, on that note)).</p><p>9.) HOSTS files will allow you to get to sites you like, via hardcoding your favs into a HOSTS file, FAR faster than DNS servers can by FAR.</p><p>10.) HOSTS files also allow you to not worry about a DNS server being compromised, or downed (if either occurs, you STILL get to sites you hardcode in a HOSTS file anyhow in EITHER case).</p><p>----</p><p>I think that about does it, for that...</p><p>APK</p><p>P.S.=&gt; However, the NICEST part here is, IS that HOSTS files and ANY BROWSER ADDONS (for any webbrowser also, mind you) work TOGETHER just fine, &amp; for the concept of "layered security" (which is the overall "best of all possible worlds" here)... apk</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" It uninstalls all versions of Internet Explorer and installs Firefox with Adblock pre-installed .
" - by rehtonAesoohC ( 954490 ) on Tuesday January 19 , @ 03 : 33PM ( # 30824104 ) HOSTS files are a superior solution vs. Adblock , &amp; here is how + why : 10 POINTS IN FAVOR OF HOSTS FILES vs .
ADBLOCK : ----1. ) HOSTS files eat no CPU cycles like browser addons do no less ! 2 .
) HOSTS files are a solution ( for security ) which also globally extends to EVERY WEBBOUND APP YOU HAVE3 .
) HOSTS files are also NOT severely LIMITED TO 1 BROWSER FAMILY ONLY... browser addons , are.4 .
) HOSTS files also can speed up ( all apps that are webbound ) any app you have that goes to the internet.5 .
) HOSTS files are EASILY user controlled , obtained ( for reliable + regularly updated ones - &gt; http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hosts \ _file [ wikipedia.org ] ( mvps.org 's is a GREAT choice there ) ) &amp; edited too + via any text editor ( which every system has ) .6 .
) HOSTS files are n't as vulnerable to " bugs " either like programs/libs/extensions of that nature are ( OR , even DNS servers ) .7 .
) HOSTS files are also EASILY secured well , via write-protection " read-only " attributes set on them , or more radically , via ACL 's even8 .
) HOSTS files allow you to bypass DNS Server requests logs ( via hardcoding your favorite sites into a HOSTS file to avoid not only the TIME taken roundtrip to an external DNS server , but also for avoiding those logs OR a DNS server that has been compromised ( see Dan Kaminsky online , on that note ) ) .9 .
) HOSTS files will allow you to get to sites you like , via hardcoding your favs into a HOSTS file , FAR faster than DNS servers can by FAR.10 .
) HOSTS files also allow you to not worry about a DNS server being compromised , or downed ( if either occurs , you STILL get to sites you hardcode in a HOSTS file anyhow in EITHER case ) .----I think that about does it , for that...APKP.S. = &gt; However , the NICEST part here is , IS that HOSTS files and ANY BROWSER ADDONS ( for any webbrowser also , mind you ) work TOGETHER just fine , &amp; for the concept of " layered security " ( which is the overall " best of all possible worlds " here ) ... apk</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"It uninstalls all versions of Internet Explorer and installs Firefox with Adblock pre-installed.
" - by rehtonAesoohC (954490) on Tuesday January 19, @03:33PM (#30824104)HOSTS files are a superior solution vs. Adblock, &amp; here is how + why:10 POINTS IN FAVOR OF HOSTS FILES vs.
ADBLOCK:----1.) HOSTS files eat no CPU cycles like browser addons do no less!2.
) HOSTS files are a solution (for security) which also globally extends to EVERY WEBBOUND APP YOU HAVE3.
) HOSTS files are also NOT severely LIMITED TO 1 BROWSER FAMILY ONLY... browser addons, are.4.
) HOSTS files also can speed up (all apps that are webbound) any app you have that goes to the internet.5.
) HOSTS files are EASILY user controlled, obtained (for reliable + regularly updated ones -&gt; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hosts\_file [wikipedia.org] (mvps.org's is a GREAT choice there)) &amp; edited too + via any text editor (which every system has).6.
) HOSTS files aren't as vulnerable to "bugs" either like programs/libs/extensions of that nature are (OR, even DNS servers).7.
) HOSTS files are also EASILY secured well, via write-protection "read-only" attributes set on them, or more radically, via ACL's even8.
) HOSTS files allow you to bypass DNS Server requests logs (via hardcoding your favorite sites into a HOSTS file to avoid not only the TIME taken roundtrip to an external DNS server, but also for avoiding those logs OR a DNS server that has been compromised (see Dan Kaminsky online, on that note)).9.
) HOSTS files will allow you to get to sites you like, via hardcoding your favs into a HOSTS file, FAR faster than DNS servers can by FAR.10.
) HOSTS files also allow you to not worry about a DNS server being compromised, or downed (if either occurs, you STILL get to sites you hardcode in a HOSTS file anyhow in EITHER case).----I think that about does it, for that...APKP.S.=&gt; However, the NICEST part here is, IS that HOSTS files and ANY BROWSER ADDONS (for any webbrowser also, mind you) work TOGETHER just fine, &amp; for the concept of "layered security" (which is the overall "best of all possible worlds" here)... apk
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824444</id>
	<title>Re:IE is only good at one thing...</title>
	<author>Nightspirit</author>
	<datestamp>1263895320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You clearly haven't used IE in years, or you are just trolling. IE8 handles tabs much better than Chrome or Firefox, and unlike firefox IE is sandboxed (this exploit doesn't affect ie8 in win7), to get similar functionality in firefox you have to install noscript and individually handle every single new website you go to.  The problem with IE isn't its compliance to standards or acid tests (no one cares except web developers) it is that its snail slow. The UI is atrocious but firefox really isn't any better. So I'm not accused of astroturfing my main browser is firefox (it used to be chrome, but I got tired of the horrible bookmark system).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You clearly have n't used IE in years , or you are just trolling .
IE8 handles tabs much better than Chrome or Firefox , and unlike firefox IE is sandboxed ( this exploit does n't affect ie8 in win7 ) , to get similar functionality in firefox you have to install noscript and individually handle every single new website you go to .
The problem with IE is n't its compliance to standards or acid tests ( no one cares except web developers ) it is that its snail slow .
The UI is atrocious but firefox really is n't any better .
So I 'm not accused of astroturfing my main browser is firefox ( it used to be chrome , but I got tired of the horrible bookmark system ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You clearly haven't used IE in years, or you are just trolling.
IE8 handles tabs much better than Chrome or Firefox, and unlike firefox IE is sandboxed (this exploit doesn't affect ie8 in win7), to get similar functionality in firefox you have to install noscript and individually handle every single new website you go to.
The problem with IE isn't its compliance to standards or acid tests (no one cares except web developers) it is that its snail slow.
The UI is atrocious but firefox really isn't any better.
So I'm not accused of astroturfing my main browser is firefox (it used to be chrome, but I got tired of the horrible bookmark system).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30826722</id>
	<title>So that's what it takes to get a patch out, MS?</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1263906900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>At least two governments officially stating to avoid IE, others in fear, every single web developer on the country hating you, Google getting hacked, and every security expert on the planet laughing at you?</p><p>Wow. Just wow.</p><p>May I extrapolate from that, what it would take, to get a real Bugzilla for IE and make it follow recent standards?<br>My guess: Inter-dimensional time war with Lovecraft&rsquo;s the old ones, lead by Cthulhu, fighting the Shrike and its army, armed with gamma ray bursts and black holes, using giant stars as ammunition.</p><p>On the other hand: That would be <em>awesome</em>!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>At least two governments officially stating to avoid IE , others in fear , every single web developer on the country hating you , Google getting hacked , and every security expert on the planet laughing at you ? Wow .
Just wow.May I extrapolate from that , what it would take , to get a real Bugzilla for IE and make it follow recent standards ? My guess : Inter-dimensional time war with Lovecraft    s the old ones , lead by Cthulhu , fighting the Shrike and its army , armed with gamma ray bursts and black holes , using giant stars as ammunition.On the other hand : That would be awesome !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At least two governments officially stating to avoid IE, others in fear, every single web developer on the country hating you, Google getting hacked, and every security expert on the planet laughing at you?Wow.
Just wow.May I extrapolate from that, what it would take, to get a real Bugzilla for IE and make it follow recent standards?My guess: Inter-dimensional time war with Lovecraft’s the old ones, lead by Cthulhu, fighting the Shrike and its army, armed with gamma ray bursts and black holes, using giant stars as ammunition.On the other hand: That would be awesome!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824570</id>
	<title>Re:'flagship webbrowser'</title>
	<author>spuke4000</author>
	<datestamp>1263895980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Uhhh... yes the do (as of a few days ago): <a href="http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/default-https-access-for-gmail.html?utm\_source=feedburner&amp;utm\_medium=feed&amp;utm\_campaign=Feed\%3A+OfficialGmailBlog+(Gmail+Blog)" title="blogspot.com">http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/default-https-access-for-gmail.html?utm\_source=feedburner&amp;utm\_medium=feed&amp;utm\_campaign=Feed\%3A+OfficialGmailBlog+(Gmail+Blog)</a> [blogspot.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Uhhh... yes the do ( as of a few days ago ) : http : //gmailblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/default-https-access-for-gmail.html ? utm \ _source = feedburner&amp;utm \ _medium = feed&amp;utm \ _campaign = Feed \ % 3A + OfficialGmailBlog + ( Gmail + Blog ) [ blogspot.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Uhhh... yes the do (as of a few days ago): http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/default-https-access-for-gmail.html?utm\_source=feedburner&amp;utm\_medium=feed&amp;utm\_campaign=Feed\%3A+OfficialGmailBlog+(Gmail+Blog) [blogspot.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824276</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824766</id>
	<title>Re:Enough is enough!</title>
	<author>stokessd</author>
	<datestamp>1263897060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's a very good point.  And all corporations will tell you that the only surfing you should be doing should be work related, so if you follow that rule, your chances of getting owned even on IE6 are pretty low.</p><p>Now I'm posting to slashdot during work hours, and I'm not even an IT guy, so you can see how followed that policy is.  At least I'm on firefox.</p><p>Sheldon</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's a very good point .
And all corporations will tell you that the only surfing you should be doing should be work related , so if you follow that rule , your chances of getting owned even on IE6 are pretty low.Now I 'm posting to slashdot during work hours , and I 'm not even an IT guy , so you can see how followed that policy is .
At least I 'm on firefox.Sheldon</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's a very good point.
And all corporations will tell you that the only surfing you should be doing should be work related, so if you follow that rule, your chances of getting owned even on IE6 are pretty low.Now I'm posting to slashdot during work hours, and I'm not even an IT guy, so you can see how followed that policy is.
At least I'm on firefox.Sheldon</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824546</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824634</id>
	<title>To little to late</title>
	<author>koan</author>
	<datestamp>1263896340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And what's going to happen to all those "IE only" web sites the government, public schools and other agencies like to use?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And what 's going to happen to all those " IE only " web sites the government , public schools and other agencies like to use ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And what's going to happen to all those "IE only" web sites the government, public schools and other agencies like to use?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30825616</id>
	<title>Re:Enough is enough!</title>
	<author>A Friendly Troll</author>
	<datestamp>1263900480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>By "globally" do you mean "in your head"?</p></div><p>No, I mean "globally".</p><p>See this for an example: <a href="http://my.opera.com/haavard/blog/2010/01/02/odd-browser-stats" title="opera.com">http://my.opera.com/haavard/blog/2010/01/02/odd-browser-stats</a> [opera.com]</p><p>Google *themselves* claim 40 million Chrome users. Opera Mini alone has more users than Chrome, not to mention the desktop version. And yet Chrome is represented by having ten times Opera Mini's market share according to those stats sites. Right...</p><p>There's also this <a href="http://my.opera.com/dstorey/blog/2009/03/16/a-look-at-desktop-market-share-cis-edition" title="opera.com">http://my.opera.com/dstorey/blog/2009/03/16/a-look-at-desktop-market-share-cis-edition</a> [opera.com] this <a href="http://my.opera.com/dstorey/blog/2009/03/16/desktop-market-share-former-yugoslavia-edition" title="opera.com">http://my.opera.com/dstorey/blog/2009/03/16/desktop-market-share-former-yugoslavia-edition</a> [opera.com] and this <a href="http://my.opera.com/dstorey/blog/desktop-market-share-baltic-edition" title="opera.com">http://my.opera.com/dstorey/blog/desktop-market-share-baltic-edition</a> [opera.com] and this <a href="http://my.opera.com/dstorey/blog/desktop-market-share-central-eastern-europe-edition" title="opera.com">http://my.opera.com/dstorey/blog/desktop-market-share-central-eastern-europe-edition</a> [opera.com]<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p><p>Whether you like it or not, Opera is *massive* in Europe and has a far greater market share than you'd like to believe.</p><p>For that reason, the stupid code on "IE6 No More" site is insulting.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>By " globally " do you mean " in your head " ? No , I mean " globally " .See this for an example : http : //my.opera.com/haavard/blog/2010/01/02/odd-browser-stats [ opera.com ] Google * themselves * claim 40 million Chrome users .
Opera Mini alone has more users than Chrome , not to mention the desktop version .
And yet Chrome is represented by having ten times Opera Mini 's market share according to those stats sites .
Right...There 's also this http : //my.opera.com/dstorey/blog/2009/03/16/a-look-at-desktop-market-share-cis-edition [ opera.com ] this http : //my.opera.com/dstorey/blog/2009/03/16/desktop-market-share-former-yugoslavia-edition [ opera.com ] and this http : //my.opera.com/dstorey/blog/desktop-market-share-baltic-edition [ opera.com ] and this http : //my.opera.com/dstorey/blog/desktop-market-share-central-eastern-europe-edition [ opera.com ] ...Whether you like it or not , Opera is * massive * in Europe and has a far greater market share than you 'd like to believe.For that reason , the stupid code on " IE6 No More " site is insulting .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>By "globally" do you mean "in your head"?No, I mean "globally".See this for an example: http://my.opera.com/haavard/blog/2010/01/02/odd-browser-stats [opera.com]Google *themselves* claim 40 million Chrome users.
Opera Mini alone has more users than Chrome, not to mention the desktop version.
And yet Chrome is represented by having ten times Opera Mini's market share according to those stats sites.
Right...There's also this http://my.opera.com/dstorey/blog/2009/03/16/a-look-at-desktop-market-share-cis-edition [opera.com] this http://my.opera.com/dstorey/blog/2009/03/16/desktop-market-share-former-yugoslavia-edition [opera.com] and this http://my.opera.com/dstorey/blog/desktop-market-share-baltic-edition [opera.com] and this http://my.opera.com/dstorey/blog/desktop-market-share-central-eastern-europe-edition [opera.com] ...Whether you like it or not, Opera is *massive* in Europe and has a far greater market share than you'd like to believe.For that reason, the stupid code on "IE6 No More" site is insulting.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824956</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30826512</id>
	<title>Re:Enough is enough!</title>
	<author>LostCluster</author>
	<datestamp>1263905220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If Google started saying "You can't search until you upgrade!" they'd get the clue rather quickly. Google has reason to kill off IE6... it was the weapon used to attack them in China. Your IT desk likely uses Google multiple times a day... so a Google outage would get attention rather quickly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If Google started saying " You ca n't search until you upgrade !
" they 'd get the clue rather quickly .
Google has reason to kill off IE6... it was the weapon used to attack them in China .
Your IT desk likely uses Google multiple times a day... so a Google outage would get attention rather quickly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If Google started saying "You can't search until you upgrade!
" they'd get the clue rather quickly.
Google has reason to kill off IE6... it was the weapon used to attack them in China.
Your IT desk likely uses Google multiple times a day... so a Google outage would get attention rather quickly.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824730</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824292</id>
	<title>The IE Patch</title>
	<author>Bigbutt</author>
	<datestamp>1263894540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Do you find yourself mysteriously waking up in a back alley more than once a week?</p><p>Do you find empty HTML pages littering your desktop and you have no idea where they came from?</p><p>Do you discover new directories on your computer?</p><p>Get the <b>IE Patch</b>!</p><p>It comes in 4 strengths so you can be gradually weaned from the habit.</p><p>Week 1. IE 6 Patch. Internet cravings are pretty intense the first week so the IE 6 Patch is there to help you learn how to just say "NO".</p><p>Week 2. IE 7 Patch. It's easier to avoid launching IE. You still need to check Amazon or e-Bay from time to time but the edge has been honed down a bit.</p><p>Week 3. IE 8 Patch. You find it a lot easier to avoid clicking on the 'e' although you still lapse when you aren't thinking.</p><p>Week 4. Firefox. You've mastered the addiction. You're free to browse the Internet worry free. Even looking at the 'e' makes you nauseous.</p><p>Congratulations on taking the first step to breaking the IE addiction.</p><p>[John]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do you find yourself mysteriously waking up in a back alley more than once a week ? Do you find empty HTML pages littering your desktop and you have no idea where they came from ? Do you discover new directories on your computer ? Get the IE Patch ! It comes in 4 strengths so you can be gradually weaned from the habit.Week 1 .
IE 6 Patch .
Internet cravings are pretty intense the first week so the IE 6 Patch is there to help you learn how to just say " NO " .Week 2 .
IE 7 Patch .
It 's easier to avoid launching IE .
You still need to check Amazon or e-Bay from time to time but the edge has been honed down a bit.Week 3 .
IE 8 Patch .
You find it a lot easier to avoid clicking on the 'e ' although you still lapse when you are n't thinking.Week 4 .
Firefox. You 've mastered the addiction .
You 're free to browse the Internet worry free .
Even looking at the 'e ' makes you nauseous.Congratulations on taking the first step to breaking the IE addiction .
[ John ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do you find yourself mysteriously waking up in a back alley more than once a week?Do you find empty HTML pages littering your desktop and you have no idea where they came from?Do you discover new directories on your computer?Get the IE Patch!It comes in 4 strengths so you can be gradually weaned from the habit.Week 1.
IE 6 Patch.
Internet cravings are pretty intense the first week so the IE 6 Patch is there to help you learn how to just say "NO".Week 2.
IE 7 Patch.
It's easier to avoid launching IE.
You still need to check Amazon or e-Bay from time to time but the edge has been honed down a bit.Week 3.
IE 8 Patch.
You find it a lot easier to avoid clicking on the 'e' although you still lapse when you aren't thinking.Week 4.
Firefox. You've mastered the addiction.
You're free to browse the Internet worry free.
Even looking at the 'e' makes you nauseous.Congratulations on taking the first step to breaking the IE addiction.
[John]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30828058</id>
	<title>Re:Enough is enough!</title>
	<author>jhol13</author>
	<datestamp>1263919200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My reply would be: "I hope you are happy with Windows 95, and, btw, thanks for not competing with us."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My reply would be : " I hope you are happy with Windows 95 , and , btw , thanks for not competing with us .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My reply would be: "I hope you are happy with Windows 95, and, btw, thanks for not competing with us.
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824728</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30828490</id>
	<title>Re:Countering attacks?</title>
	<author>xactuary</author>
	<datestamp>1263923280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Germany and France: Internet Explorer 8 is the latest in a Maginot Line of browsers.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Germany and France : Internet Explorer 8 is the latest in a Maginot Line of browsers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Germany and France: Internet Explorer 8 is the latest in a Maginot Line of browsers.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824100</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30826718</id>
	<title>Oh, great, back to 'browse and you're owned'</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263906900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wonder if this is why there has been a sudden, dramatic increase in the number of my company's clients who have users getting infected with malware in recent days.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder if this is why there has been a sudden , dramatic increase in the number of my company 's clients who have users getting infected with malware in recent days .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder if this is why there has been a sudden, dramatic increase in the number of my company's clients who have users getting infected with malware in recent days.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824554</id>
	<title>Re:'flagship webbrowser'</title>
	<author>MightyMartian</author>
	<datestamp>1263895860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ten points, m'lad, for Non Sequitur of the Day!!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ten points , m'lad , for Non Sequitur of the Day ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ten points, m'lad, for Non Sequitur of the Day!!
!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824276</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824340</id>
	<title>Re:Enough is enough!</title>
	<author>Archangel Michael</author>
	<datestamp>1263894780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm running similar code on my site, and yet many of the "visitors" are still using IE6. I suspect most of those are bots, because of the traffic pattern looking for Registration and Forum pieces.</p><p>It is sad when you can spot a bot by the UserAgent.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm running similar code on my site , and yet many of the " visitors " are still using IE6 .
I suspect most of those are bots , because of the traffic pattern looking for Registration and Forum pieces.It is sad when you can spot a bot by the UserAgent .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm running similar code on my site, and yet many of the "visitors" are still using IE6.
I suspect most of those are bots, because of the traffic pattern looking for Registration and Forum pieces.It is sad when you can spot a bot by the UserAgent.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824026</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824308</id>
	<title>Re:Enough is enough!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263894660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'm uploading the IE6 No More code to my website now. There's a point where users of outdated software need to be told there's four major cost-free options, including a much updated version of IE if they want to stick with IE.</p></div><p>Five.</p><p>It's missing Opera, which globally has more users than Chrome, for example, and wtfpwns both IE and Firefox combined market share in certain countries. In most European countries, Opera has more users than Safari and Chrome.</p><p>While the concept is neat, the choices aren't, and they are both offensive and ignorant.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm uploading the IE6 No More code to my website now .
There 's a point where users of outdated software need to be told there 's four major cost-free options , including a much updated version of IE if they want to stick with IE.Five.It 's missing Opera , which globally has more users than Chrome , for example , and wtfpwns both IE and Firefox combined market share in certain countries .
In most European countries , Opera has more users than Safari and Chrome.While the concept is neat , the choices are n't , and they are both offensive and ignorant .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm uploading the IE6 No More code to my website now.
There's a point where users of outdated software need to be told there's four major cost-free options, including a much updated version of IE if they want to stick with IE.Five.It's missing Opera, which globally has more users than Chrome, for example, and wtfpwns both IE and Firefox combined market share in certain countries.
In most European countries, Opera has more users than Safari and Chrome.While the concept is neat, the choices aren't, and they are both offensive and ignorant.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824026</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30837710</id>
	<title>Re:Enough is enough!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263982680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You realize people can change their user agent in their registry, right?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You realize people can change their user agent in their registry , right ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You realize people can change their user agent in their registry, right?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824026</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30827934</id>
	<title>IE6...sends chills down my spine!</title>
	<author>motang</author>
	<datestamp>1263918000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sane people don't use IE 6 anymore, that browser needs to die!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sane people do n't use IE 6 anymore , that browser needs to die !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sane people don't use IE 6 anymore, that browser needs to die!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30826196</id>
	<title>Re:Enough is enough!</title>
	<author>FictionPimp</author>
	<datestamp>1263903300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We are looking to migrate to IE8 in the next 3 months actually. We are currently on IE7. All of our applications work in any browser now. The only main issue is testing that the IE8 push won't break any workstations.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We are looking to migrate to IE8 in the next 3 months actually .
We are currently on IE7 .
All of our applications work in any browser now .
The only main issue is testing that the IE8 push wo n't break any workstations .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We are looking to migrate to IE8 in the next 3 months actually.
We are currently on IE7.
All of our applications work in any browser now.
The only main issue is testing that the IE8 push won't break any workstations.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824730</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30826226</id>
	<title>Re:Enough is enough!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263903420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'm uploading the IE6 No More [ie6nomore.com] code to my website now.</p></div><p>Woa, that's epic. The 2 Firefox and 1 Opera users that have have seen your site last month will also agree.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm uploading the IE6 No More [ ie6nomore.com ] code to my website now.Woa , that 's epic .
The 2 Firefox and 1 Opera users that have have seen your site last month will also agree .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm uploading the IE6 No More [ie6nomore.com] code to my website now.Woa, that's epic.
The 2 Firefox and 1 Opera users that have have seen your site last month will also agree.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824026</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30829404</id>
	<title>Re:Enough is enough!</title>
	<author>myspace-cn</author>
	<datestamp>1263979980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Damn good thing you didn't install PROTOOLS cause IE8 breaks that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Damn good thing you did n't install PROTOOLS cause IE8 breaks that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Damn good thing you didn't install PROTOOLS cause IE8 breaks that.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30826196</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824150</id>
	<title>Contribute to the death of IE 6 on your site...</title>
	<author>MikeRT</author>
	<datestamp>1263893880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.devirtuoso.com/2009/08/contributing-to-the-death-of-ie6/" title="devirtuoso.com">Make it painfully clear</a> [devirtuoso.com] to IE6 users what they're doing.
<br> <br>
<a href="http://www.codemonkeyramblings.com/ie6warning.php" title="codemonkeyramblings.com">My version</a> [codemonkeyramblings.com], which is more educational for them.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Make it painfully clear [ devirtuoso.com ] to IE6 users what they 're doing .
My version [ codemonkeyramblings.com ] , which is more educational for them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Make it painfully clear [devirtuoso.com] to IE6 users what they're doing.
My version [codemonkeyramblings.com], which is more educational for them.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824728</id>
	<title>Re:Enough is enough!</title>
	<author>GF678</author>
	<datestamp>1263896820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I'm uploading the IE6 No More code to my website now. There's a point where users of outdated software need to be told there's four major cost-free options, including a much updated version of IE if they want to stick with IE. I'm almost thinking we should move from a warning to a service-denying error if this goes much further.</p></div></blockquote><p>I'm sure corporate users who have IE6 forced upon them will appreciate it if they try to view your site.</p><p>I'm sure your response would be "well they can bring it up with their IT department and use it as a way to persuade the upgrade". Doesn't work like that in the real world, particularly if old IE6-only compatible web apps are still in use.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm uploading the IE6 No More code to my website now .
There 's a point where users of outdated software need to be told there 's four major cost-free options , including a much updated version of IE if they want to stick with IE .
I 'm almost thinking we should move from a warning to a service-denying error if this goes much further.I 'm sure corporate users who have IE6 forced upon them will appreciate it if they try to view your site.I 'm sure your response would be " well they can bring it up with their IT department and use it as a way to persuade the upgrade " .
Does n't work like that in the real world , particularly if old IE6-only compatible web apps are still in use .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm uploading the IE6 No More code to my website now.
There's a point where users of outdated software need to be told there's four major cost-free options, including a much updated version of IE if they want to stick with IE.
I'm almost thinking we should move from a warning to a service-denying error if this goes much further.I'm sure corporate users who have IE6 forced upon them will appreciate it if they try to view your site.I'm sure your response would be "well they can bring it up with their IT department and use it as a way to persuade the upgrade".
Doesn't work like that in the real world, particularly if old IE6-only compatible web apps are still in use.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824026</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30827778</id>
	<title>Best patch for IE?</title>
	<author>Lost Penguin</author>
	<datestamp>1263916200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>www.mozilla.com</htmltext>
<tokenext>www.mozilla.com</tokentext>
<sentencetext>www.mozilla.com</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824254</id>
	<title>Re:IE is only good at one thing...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263894360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Just an FYI, but <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StopIE#Removal" title="wikipedia.org">Windows update does not need IE on Vista and beyond </a> [wikipedia.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just an FYI , but Windows update does not need IE on Vista and beyond [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just an FYI, but Windows update does not need IE on Vista and beyond  [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824132</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30826136</id>
	<title>Re:Enough is enough!</title>
	<author>LostCluster</author>
	<datestamp>1263903000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What's the app and why does it insist on IE6? Can it be tested on one IE8 virtual machine? If the app vendor was still around they most likely would love to sell an upgrade...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What 's the app and why does it insist on IE6 ?
Can it be tested on one IE8 virtual machine ?
If the app vendor was still around they most likely would love to sell an upgrade.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What's the app and why does it insist on IE6?
Can it be tested on one IE8 virtual machine?
If the app vendor was still around they most likely would love to sell an upgrade...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30825278</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824208</id>
	<title>Microsofts sabotaged america with poor software</title>
	<author>whitedsepdivine</author>
	<datestamp>1263894060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Microsoft is in cahoots with the Chinese digital terrorists.  Arrest everyone from microsoft without a conviction from a court indefinately!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Microsoft is in cahoots with the Chinese digital terrorists .
Arrest everyone from microsoft without a conviction from a court indefinately !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Microsoft is in cahoots with the Chinese digital terrorists.
Arrest everyone from microsoft without a conviction from a court indefinately!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824230</id>
	<title>Goody</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263894180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Oh good I was wondering when this would come out.....oh wait I don't use IE nor does anyone with half a brain.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh good I was wondering when this would come out.....oh wait I do n't use IE nor does anyone with half a brain .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh good I was wondering when this would come out.....oh wait I don't use IE nor does anyone with half a brain.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824276</id>
	<title>'flagship webbrowser'</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263894480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> I love the way MicroSoft gets slammed for their 'flagship webbrowser', you know \_IE6\_. When google doesn't even put their email under SSL by default.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I love the way MicroSoft gets slammed for their 'flagship webbrowser ' , you know \ _IE6 \ _ .
When google does n't even put their email under SSL by default .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> I love the way MicroSoft gets slammed for their 'flagship webbrowser', you know \_IE6\_.
When google doesn't even put their email under SSL by default.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30826994</id>
	<title>It's not IE you need to beware of, it's Google</title>
	<author>ysth</author>
	<datestamp>1263908880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>or at least that's the message someone picked up, leading them to pass this warning along to acquaintances:<blockquote><div><p>Speaking of Google, apparently somone has put a virus on Google for anyone who goes there with Internet Explorer.
<br>
You have been warned.</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
I thought that was a really slick marketing twist on someone's part.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>or at least that 's the message someone picked up , leading them to pass this warning along to acquaintances : Speaking of Google , apparently somone has put a virus on Google for anyone who goes there with Internet Explorer .
You have been warned .
I thought that was a really slick marketing twist on someone 's part .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>or at least that's the message someone picked up, leading them to pass this warning along to acquaintances:Speaking of Google, apparently somone has put a virus on Google for anyone who goes there with Internet Explorer.
You have been warned.
I thought that was a really slick marketing twist on someone's part.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824956</id>
	<title>Re:Enough is enough!</title>
	<author>PopeRatzo</author>
	<datestamp>1263897780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Opera, which globally has more users than Chrome</p></div></blockquote><p>By "globally" do you mean "in your head"?</p><p>According to marketshare.hitslink.com, as of December 2009 Safari had 2.4\% of the browser market share.  Chrome had 4.63\%</p><p>Over at gs.statcounter.com, as of January 10, 2010 Opera had 1.98\% and Chrome had 5.88\%.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Opera , which globally has more users than ChromeBy " globally " do you mean " in your head " ? According to marketshare.hitslink.com , as of December 2009 Safari had 2.4 \ % of the browser market share .
Chrome had 4.63 \ % Over at gs.statcounter.com , as of January 10 , 2010 Opera had 1.98 \ % and Chrome had 5.88 \ % .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Opera, which globally has more users than ChromeBy "globally" do you mean "in your head"?According to marketshare.hitslink.com, as of December 2009 Safari had 2.4\% of the browser market share.
Chrome had 4.63\%Over at gs.statcounter.com, as of January 10, 2010 Opera had 1.98\% and Chrome had 5.88\%.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824308</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30826170</id>
	<title>Re:To little to late</title>
	<author>LostCluster</author>
	<datestamp>1263903180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If they were designed when IE6 was current... they're overdue to be rewritten. Another case of not budgeting for the geek jobs until they're broken.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If they were designed when IE6 was current... they 're overdue to be rewritten .
Another case of not budgeting for the geek jobs until they 're broken .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If they were designed when IE6 was current... they're overdue to be rewritten.
Another case of not budgeting for the geek jobs until they're broken.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824634</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824392</id>
	<title>Re:I have the patch details:</title>
	<author>Monkeedude1212</author>
	<datestamp>1263895020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It also sets the DNS to itself and caches anything you might have had saved in your browser history.</p><p>That way, you still seemingly visit the same sites you always do, just they never get updated, and you are completely secure from everything on the net!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It also sets the DNS to itself and caches anything you might have had saved in your browser history.That way , you still seemingly visit the same sites you always do , just they never get updated , and you are completely secure from everything on the net !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It also sets the DNS to itself and caches anything you might have had saved in your browser history.That way, you still seemingly visit the same sites you always do, just they never get updated, and you are completely secure from everything on the net!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824104</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30826810</id>
	<title>Re:IE is only good at one thing...</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1263907560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But only <a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/10909" title="mozilla.org">in a frame, inside Firefox</a> [mozilla.org]. (Just disable the cookie transfer feature. That&rsquo;s a <em>really</em> stupid idea.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But only in a frame , inside Firefox [ mozilla.org ] .
( Just disable the cookie transfer feature .
That    s a really stupid idea .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But only in a frame, inside Firefox [mozilla.org].
(Just disable the cookie transfer feature.
That’s a really stupid idea.
)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824132</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30826610</id>
	<title>Oh I feel much better now</title>
	<author>handfullofsausage</author>
	<datestamp>1263905820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>ie = internet exploiter -- I think a can of cat food has more security than anything MS produces<nobr> <wbr></nobr>....</htmltext>
<tokenext>ie = internet exploiter -- I think a can of cat food has more security than anything MS produces ... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>ie = internet exploiter -- I think a can of cat food has more security than anything MS produces ....</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30827276</id>
	<title>Re:IE is only good at one thing...</title>
	<author>mstahl</author>
	<datestamp>1263911160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is something I've never really understood. What is the rationale, if any, for making it so that the web browser updates the system? If you uninstall IE, can you still update your system?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is something I 've never really understood .
What is the rationale , if any , for making it so that the web browser updates the system ?
If you uninstall IE , can you still update your system ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is something I've never really understood.
What is the rationale, if any, for making it so that the web browser updates the system?
If you uninstall IE, can you still update your system?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824132</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824528</id>
	<title>Worst Job Ever</title>
	<author>cpscotti</author>
	<datestamp>1263895740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This comes in handy to define the worst job a human can get!<br>
Fixing major flaws in a 10 y.o. completely flawed browser... <br>
You could call it: "Senior Ancient Flaws Engineer" or whatever!.. <br><nobr> <wbr></nobr>.. not that maintaining IE8 would be much better but I can bet they pay u more!</htmltext>
<tokenext>This comes in handy to define the worst job a human can get !
Fixing major flaws in a 10 y.o .
completely flawed browser.. . You could call it : " Senior Ancient Flaws Engineer " or whatever ! . .
.. not that maintaining IE8 would be much better but I can bet they pay u more !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This comes in handy to define the worst job a human can get!
Fixing major flaws in a 10 y.o.
completely flawed browser... 
You could call it: "Senior Ancient Flaws Engineer" or whatever!..
.. not that maintaining IE8 would be much better but I can bet they pay u more!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824784</id>
	<title>Re:Enough is enough!</title>
	<author>Drethon</author>
	<datestamp>1263897120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Could you also convince my place of buisness that making IE6 the manditory browser and not allowing installation of any other browser is a very lousy idea?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Could you also convince my place of buisness that making IE6 the manditory browser and not allowing installation of any other browser is a very lousy idea ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Could you also convince my place of buisness that making IE6 the manditory browser and not allowing installation of any other browser is a very lousy idea?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824026</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824406</id>
	<title>Re:Quoth the TFA</title>
	<author>poetmatt</author>
	<datestamp>1263895140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>it does, however, share the same vuln with IE7 and IE8. So maybe it's more appropriate as "microsoft's web browser" (irrespective of version) is at fault.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>it does , however , share the same vuln with IE7 and IE8 .
So maybe it 's more appropriate as " microsoft 's web browser " ( irrespective of version ) is at fault .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>it does, however, share the same vuln with IE7 and IE8.
So maybe it's more appropriate as "microsoft's web browser" (irrespective of version) is at fault.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824078</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824260</id>
	<title>Marketing</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263894420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is MS Marketing to make the Germans accept IE again.</p><p>NO, WE WON'T GO BACK TO THAT SH*T !!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is MS Marketing to make the Germans accept IE again.NO , WE WO N'T GO BACK TO THAT SH * T !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is MS Marketing to make the Germans accept IE again.NO, WE WON'T GO BACK TO THAT SH*T !
!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824652</id>
	<title>Re:Quoth the TFA</title>
	<author>IshmaelDS</author>
	<datestamp>1263896400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>True IE 6 hasn't but if you read the microsoft bulletin it also says that IE 7 and 8 share the vulnerability.
<a href="http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/advisory/979352.mspx" title="microsoft.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/advisory/979352.mspx</a> [microsoft.com]

"Our investigation so far has shown that Internet Explorer 5.01 Service Pack 4 on Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 is not affected, and that Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1 on Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4, and Internet Explorer 6, Internet Explorer 7 and Internet Explorer 8 on supported editions of Windows XP, Windows Server 2003, Windows Vista, Windows Server 2008, Windows 7, and Windows Server 2008 R2 are vulnerable."</htmltext>
<tokenext>True IE 6 has n't but if you read the microsoft bulletin it also says that IE 7 and 8 share the vulnerability .
http : //www.microsoft.com/technet/security/advisory/979352.mspx [ microsoft.com ] " Our investigation so far has shown that Internet Explorer 5.01 Service Pack 4 on Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 is not affected , and that Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1 on Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 , and Internet Explorer 6 , Internet Explorer 7 and Internet Explorer 8 on supported editions of Windows XP , Windows Server 2003 , Windows Vista , Windows Server 2008 , Windows 7 , and Windows Server 2008 R2 are vulnerable .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>True IE 6 hasn't but if you read the microsoft bulletin it also says that IE 7 and 8 share the vulnerability.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/advisory/979352.mspx [microsoft.com]

"Our investigation so far has shown that Internet Explorer 5.01 Service Pack 4 on Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 is not affected, and that Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1 on Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4, and Internet Explorer 6, Internet Explorer 7 and Internet Explorer 8 on supported editions of Windows XP, Windows Server 2003, Windows Vista, Windows Server 2008, Windows 7, and Windows Server 2008 R2 are vulnerable.
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824078</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30826212</id>
	<title>Re:Enough is enough!</title>
	<author>FictionPimp</author>
	<datestamp>1263903360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How about you gauge the cost of a security breach that will eventually happen against the cost of not using legacy applications.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How about you gauge the cost of a security breach that will eventually happen against the cost of not using legacy applications .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about you gauge the cost of a security breach that will eventually happen against the cost of not using legacy applications.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30825278</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824814</id>
	<title>Re:Quoth the TFA</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263897240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>are IE6 and IE8 different browsers or different versions of the same browser?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>are IE6 and IE8 different browsers or different versions of the same browser ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>are IE6 and IE8 different browsers or different versions of the same browser?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824078</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824078</id>
	<title>Quoth the TFA</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263893520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> targeted attacks and the publication of exploit code for a 'browse and you're owned' vulnerability in its flagship Web browser</p></div><p>IE 6 hasn't been Microsoft's flagship browser for 4 years.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>targeted attacks and the publication of exploit code for a 'browse and you 're owned ' vulnerability in its flagship Web browserIE 6 has n't been Microsoft 's flagship browser for 4 years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> targeted attacks and the publication of exploit code for a 'browse and you're owned' vulnerability in its flagship Web browserIE 6 hasn't been Microsoft's flagship browser for 4 years.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30826562</id>
	<title>Re:Enough is enough!</title>
	<author>binary paladin</author>
	<datestamp>1263905520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Tell that to YouTube.</p><p>Thankfully, next-gen webapps are going to be the death of IE6 because in another year nothing is going to support it anymore. IE7 will die at a much faster pace.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Tell that to YouTube.Thankfully , next-gen webapps are going to be the death of IE6 because in another year nothing is going to support it anymore .
IE7 will die at a much faster pace .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tell that to YouTube.Thankfully, next-gen webapps are going to be the death of IE6 because in another year nothing is going to support it anymore.
IE7 will die at a much faster pace.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824728</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30825456</id>
	<title>Re:To little to late</title>
	<author>burkmat</author>
	<datestamp>1263899820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They'll be rewritten to actually work?<br> <br>
Tbh, I think it's already reached the point where any entity creating a new fancy website these days has to comply with standards, simply due to the percentage of users who aren't using IE anymore. All that remains is for the archaic IE-only websites to go extinct.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They 'll be rewritten to actually work ?
Tbh , I think it 's already reached the point where any entity creating a new fancy website these days has to comply with standards , simply due to the percentage of users who are n't using IE anymore .
All that remains is for the archaic IE-only websites to go extinct .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They'll be rewritten to actually work?
Tbh, I think it's already reached the point where any entity creating a new fancy website these days has to comply with standards, simply due to the percentage of users who aren't using IE anymore.
All that remains is for the archaic IE-only websites to go extinct.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824634</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824336</id>
	<title>No Opera, and external resources? Oi.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263894780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Funny - that site's little code examples don't include Opera as one of the modern browser options.  What's the author got against the big o?</p><p>Also.. adjust the code so it pulls all its data from your local server; there's no need for that site to know who your visitors are, and there's no need for your page to load any more slowly due to external connections than is absolutely necessary.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Funny - that site 's little code examples do n't include Opera as one of the modern browser options .
What 's the author got against the big o ? Also.. adjust the code so it pulls all its data from your local server ; there 's no need for that site to know who your visitors are , and there 's no need for your page to load any more slowly due to external connections than is absolutely necessary .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Funny - that site's little code examples don't include Opera as one of the modern browser options.
What's the author got against the big o?Also.. adjust the code so it pulls all its data from your local server; there's no need for that site to know who your visitors are, and there's no need for your page to load any more slowly due to external connections than is absolutely necessary.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824026</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30826440</id>
	<title>Re:Enough is enough!</title>
	<author>PopeRatzo</author>
	<datestamp>1263904740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oh, an Opera website says it's <i>widely used on in the former Yugoslavia</i>!</p><p>Tell you what:  Find some market share data <i>not on an Opera website</i> and we can talk.</p><p>What's really funny is, if you click on the first link in the story <i>on the Opera website</i>, do you know what it links to? (wait for it...)</p><p>That's right, the first link in the Opera article about how they have more users than Chrome links to <i>the market share data that I sited above, which shows Chrome at more than twice Opera's market share</i>.</p><p>In fact, the story that the Opera story links to breaks out the market share for Opera Mini (0.53\%), which, if you add it to the market share for Opera (2.43\%) still comes to considerably less than Chrome's 4.63\%.  And those are December numbers.  If you look at more recent numbers (see the link in my comment above) Chrome's lead is bigger.</p><p>Maybe it's possible to have more users and still less market share, but it's more probably that Opera is being a little bit, um, <i>exuberant</i> in their analysis of the statistics.  It wouldn't be the first time that a company painted an extra-rosy picture of the facts.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh , an Opera website says it 's widely used on in the former Yugoslavia ! Tell you what : Find some market share data not on an Opera website and we can talk.What 's really funny is , if you click on the first link in the story on the Opera website , do you know what it links to ?
( wait for it... ) That 's right , the first link in the Opera article about how they have more users than Chrome links to the market share data that I sited above , which shows Chrome at more than twice Opera 's market share.In fact , the story that the Opera story links to breaks out the market share for Opera Mini ( 0.53 \ % ) , which , if you add it to the market share for Opera ( 2.43 \ % ) still comes to considerably less than Chrome 's 4.63 \ % .
And those are December numbers .
If you look at more recent numbers ( see the link in my comment above ) Chrome 's lead is bigger.Maybe it 's possible to have more users and still less market share , but it 's more probably that Opera is being a little bit , um , exuberant in their analysis of the statistics .
It would n't be the first time that a company painted an extra-rosy picture of the facts .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh, an Opera website says it's widely used on in the former Yugoslavia!Tell you what:  Find some market share data not on an Opera website and we can talk.What's really funny is, if you click on the first link in the story on the Opera website, do you know what it links to?
(wait for it...)That's right, the first link in the Opera article about how they have more users than Chrome links to the market share data that I sited above, which shows Chrome at more than twice Opera's market share.In fact, the story that the Opera story links to breaks out the market share for Opera Mini (0.53\%), which, if you add it to the market share for Opera (2.43\%) still comes to considerably less than Chrome's 4.63\%.
And those are December numbers.
If you look at more recent numbers (see the link in my comment above) Chrome's lead is bigger.Maybe it's possible to have more users and still less market share, but it's more probably that Opera is being a little bit, um, exuberant in their analysis of the statistics.
It wouldn't be the first time that a company painted an extra-rosy picture of the facts.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30826848</id>
	<title>Re:Enough is enough!</title>
	<author>icebraining</author>
	<datestamp>1263907860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Using IE6 for that app, other browser for all the rest. Unless you're prohibited from running another browser; then having sites lock IE6 off can accelerate the transition, so they're helping you in the long run.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Using IE6 for that app , other browser for all the rest .
Unless you 're prohibited from running another browser ; then having sites lock IE6 off can accelerate the transition , so they 're helping you in the long run .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Using IE6 for that app, other browser for all the rest.
Unless you're prohibited from running another browser; then having sites lock IE6 off can accelerate the transition, so they're helping you in the long run.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30825278</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30825202</id>
	<title>Re:Enough is enough!</title>
	<author>RajivSLK</author>
	<datestamp>1263898740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No Save IE6!  It keeps us employed!</p><p><a href="http://www.saveie6.com/" title="saveie6.com">http://www.saveie6.com/</a> [saveie6.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No Save IE6 !
It keeps us employed ! http : //www.saveie6.com/ [ saveie6.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No Save IE6!
It keeps us employed!http://www.saveie6.com/ [saveie6.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824026</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824282</id>
	<title>Eye Patch ?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263894480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Now we can all be pirates !</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now we can all be pirates !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now we can all be pirates !</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30826874</id>
	<title>Re:Quoth the TFA</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1263908040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>To be fair, IE6 can&rsquo;t be defined as a browser for 4 years anyway.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>To be fair , IE6 can    t be defined as a browser for 4 years anyway .
; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To be fair, IE6 can’t be defined as a browser for 4 years anyway.
;)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30824026</id>
	<title>Enough is enough!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263893340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm uploading the <a href="http://www.ie6nomore.com/" title="ie6nomore.com">IE6 No More</a> [ie6nomore.com] code to my website now. There's a point where users of outdated software need to be told there's four major cost-free options, including a much updated version of IE if they want to stick with IE. I'm almost thinking we should move from a warning to a service-denying error if this goes much further.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm uploading the IE6 No More [ ie6nomore.com ] code to my website now .
There 's a point where users of outdated software need to be told there 's four major cost-free options , including a much updated version of IE if they want to stick with IE .
I 'm almost thinking we should move from a warning to a service-denying error if this goes much further .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm uploading the IE6 No More [ie6nomore.com] code to my website now.
There's a point where users of outdated software need to be told there's four major cost-free options, including a much updated version of IE if they want to stick with IE.
I'm almost thinking we should move from a warning to a service-denying error if this goes much further.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_19_1946248.30825278</id>
	<title>Re:Enough is enough!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263899040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm using IE6 right now, you insensitve clod.</p><p>Why, you ask, is an Electrical Engineer -- one who reads<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/., has acted as a sys admin for two start-ups, uses Linux at home (and Puppy for the kids, that's right, my 6-year-old uses Linux) and has over 25 years of programming and networking experience)-- using IE6, a browser that MS itself has said, "oh god, please ditch it"?</p><p>Because I'm at work and some of the legacy applications here require it.</p><p>Have you got a solution? I'd love to hear it because I'd get a big fat bonus for a process improvement.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm using IE6 right now , you insensitve clod.Why , you ask , is an Electrical Engineer -- one who reads /. , has acted as a sys admin for two start-ups , uses Linux at home ( and Puppy for the kids , that 's right , my 6-year-old uses Linux ) and has over 25 years of programming and networking experience ) -- using IE6 , a browser that MS itself has said , " oh god , please ditch it " ? Because I 'm at work and some of the legacy applications here require it.Have you got a solution ?
I 'd love to hear it because I 'd get a big fat bonus for a process improvement .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm using IE6 right now, you insensitve clod.Why, you ask, is an Electrical Engineer -- one who reads /., has acted as a sys admin for two start-ups, uses Linux at home (and Puppy for the kids, that's right, my 6-year-old uses Linux) and has over 25 years of programming and networking experience)-- using IE6, a browser that MS itself has said, "oh god, please ditch it"?Because I'm at work and some of the legacy applications here require it.Have you got a solution?
I'd love to hear it because I'd get a big fat bonus for a process improvement.</sentencetext>
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