<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_01_18_2234226</id>
	<title>Iceland's Data Center Push Finally Gets Traction</title>
	<author>ScuttleMonkey</author>
	<datestamp>1263813300000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>miller60 writes <i>"Iceland is poised for the completion of its first major international <a href="http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2010/01/18/iceland-gets-major-data-center-project/">data center project</a>, after years of marketing itself as a potential <a href="http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/08/03/29/2331218/Iceland-Woos-Data-Centers-As-Power-Costs-Soar">data center mecca</a>. Iceland offers an ample supply of geothermal energy and an ideal environment for fresh air cooling, but its ambitions were slowed by the global financial collapse. But now the huge UK charity Wellcome Trust has <a href="http://www.verneglobal.com/news/2010/01/15/wellcome\_trust\_signs\_agreement\_to\_invest\_in\_verne\_holdings">provided funding</a> to complete a new data center in a former <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval\_Air\_Station\_Keflavik">NATO facility</a> in Keflavik."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>miller60 writes " Iceland is poised for the completion of its first major international data center project , after years of marketing itself as a potential data center mecca .
Iceland offers an ample supply of geothermal energy and an ideal environment for fresh air cooling , but its ambitions were slowed by the global financial collapse .
But now the huge UK charity Wellcome Trust has provided funding to complete a new data center in a former NATO facility in Keflavik .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>miller60 writes "Iceland is poised for the completion of its first major international data center project, after years of marketing itself as a potential data center mecca.
Iceland offers an ample supply of geothermal energy and an ideal environment for fresh air cooling, but its ambitions were slowed by the global financial collapse.
But now the huge UK charity Wellcome Trust has provided funding to complete a new data center in a former NATO facility in Keflavik.
"</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30816226</id>
	<title>Iceland - the McDLT of Countries</title>
	<author>hedgemage</author>
	<datestamp>1263837660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>It keeps the hot side hot and the cold side cold.<br>
sigh... I'm old.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It keeps the hot side hot and the cold side cold .
sigh... I 'm old .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It keeps the hot side hot and the cold side cold.
sigh... I'm old.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30817138</id>
	<title>Re:Improvements to network connectivity</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263893820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not true</p><p>When I lived there:</p><p>Internet access routed via phone cable to the USA in 1986</p><p>Internet access routed via copper cables to USA, satellite to Europe ca 1990</p><p>Fibre optic links to Scandinavia, Canada, New York, the UK and mainland Europe in 1999</p><p>Broadband was cheaper than in the UK until 2006/7 and is still more readily available. Synchronus access is still cheaper than in the UK and available pretty much everywhere, unlike the UK</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not trueWhen I lived there : Internet access routed via phone cable to the USA in 1986Internet access routed via copper cables to USA , satellite to Europe ca 1990Fibre optic links to Scandinavia , Canada , New York , the UK and mainland Europe in 1999Broadband was cheaper than in the UK until 2006/7 and is still more readily available .
Synchronus access is still cheaper than in the UK and available pretty much everywhere , unlike the UK</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not trueWhen I lived there:Internet access routed via phone cable to the USA in 1986Internet access routed via copper cables to USA, satellite to Europe ca 1990Fibre optic links to Scandinavia, Canada, New York, the UK and mainland Europe in 1999Broadband was cheaper than in the UK until 2006/7 and is still more readily available.
Synchronus access is still cheaper than in the UK and available pretty much everywhere, unlike the UK</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30819118</id>
	<title>Re:What is the bandwith to iceland anyways?</title>
	<author>Ltap</author>
	<datestamp>1263916260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It'd be interesting if we saw Iceland make its laws more lax and turning it into the Singapore of Europe - i.e. the place where everyone would have their proxy server or seedbox hosted to cover their tracks and avoid ugly baseball-inspired laws...</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 'd be interesting if we saw Iceland make its laws more lax and turning it into the Singapore of Europe - i.e .
the place where everyone would have their proxy server or seedbox hosted to cover their tracks and avoid ugly baseball-inspired laws.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It'd be interesting if we saw Iceland make its laws more lax and turning it into the Singapore of Europe - i.e.
the place where everyone would have their proxy server or seedbox hosted to cover their tracks and avoid ugly baseball-inspired laws...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30818446</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30815766</id>
	<title>The server isn't responding</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263831960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Yeah, I think it's frozen"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Yeah , I think it 's frozen "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Yeah, I think it's frozen"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30817836</id>
	<title>Re:WikiLeaks &amp; Iceland's Legislation</title>
	<author>Xinvoker</author>
	<datestamp>1263904020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I wonder if they will be able to keep that law if they decide to join the EU.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder if they will be able to keep that law if they decide to join the EU .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder if they will be able to keep that law if they decide to join the EU.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30814134</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30815224</id>
	<title>excuse for being inside,</title>
	<author>sc0p3</author>
	<datestamp>1263825600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>now we have a real excuse to spend 6-months indoors. By 2020 all good hackers will live in Iceland<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</htmltext>
<tokenext>now we have a real excuse to spend 6-months indoors .
By 2020 all good hackers will live in Iceland : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>now we have a real excuse to spend 6-months indoors.
By 2020 all good hackers will live in Iceland :)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30814414</id>
	<title>Not news here</title>
	<author>akarnid</author>
	<datestamp>1263819120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>This has been on the cards for about two years now. Construction at the site stopped last month because politicians wouldn't dare go on with the project because of public opposition.  One of the top stakeholders in Verne Global is one Bjorgolfur Thor Bjorgolfsson, former owner of failed bank Landsbanki, whose high-interest Icesave savings accounts failed spectacularly and have kicked off the biggest firestorm in the republics' short history.

Also, the bandwidth is not a problem.

<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenland\_Connect" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenland\_Connect</a> [wikipedia.org]  (goes to US/CANADA)
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DANICE" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DANICE</a> [wikipedia.org] (goes to EU)
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FARICE-1" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FARICE-1</a> [wikipedia.org]  (goes to EU)

These are the fiber cables we have.  As you can read, we have lots of unlit fiber there.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This has been on the cards for about two years now .
Construction at the site stopped last month because politicians would n't dare go on with the project because of public opposition .
One of the top stakeholders in Verne Global is one Bjorgolfur Thor Bjorgolfsson , former owner of failed bank Landsbanki , whose high-interest Icesave savings accounts failed spectacularly and have kicked off the biggest firestorm in the republics ' short history .
Also , the bandwidth is not a problem .
http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenland \ _Connect [ wikipedia.org ] ( goes to US/CANADA ) http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DANICE [ wikipedia.org ] ( goes to EU ) http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FARICE-1 [ wikipedia.org ] ( goes to EU ) These are the fiber cables we have .
As you can read , we have lots of unlit fiber there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This has been on the cards for about two years now.
Construction at the site stopped last month because politicians wouldn't dare go on with the project because of public opposition.
One of the top stakeholders in Verne Global is one Bjorgolfur Thor Bjorgolfsson, former owner of failed bank Landsbanki, whose high-interest Icesave savings accounts failed spectacularly and have kicked off the biggest firestorm in the republics' short history.
Also, the bandwidth is not a problem.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenland\_Connect [wikipedia.org]  (goes to US/CANADA)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DANICE [wikipedia.org] (goes to EU)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FARICE-1 [wikipedia.org]  (goes to EU)

These are the fiber cables we have.
As you can read, we have lots of unlit fiber there.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30814128</id>
	<title>Risky business</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263817200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>A call center that I worked at before I became a developer (Convergys) just closed in my old hometown.  My warning to Iceland is to be cautious: there is no loyalty in the call center industry.  Sure this is good now and will help the economy but a lot of good it will do in the long run if they close down in four years.</htmltext>
<tokenext>A call center that I worked at before I became a developer ( Convergys ) just closed in my old hometown .
My warning to Iceland is to be cautious : there is no loyalty in the call center industry .
Sure this is good now and will help the economy but a lot of good it will do in the long run if they close down in four years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A call center that I worked at before I became a developer (Convergys) just closed in my old hometown.
My warning to Iceland is to be cautious: there is no loyalty in the call center industry.
Sure this is good now and will help the economy but a lot of good it will do in the long run if they close down in four years.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30814946</id>
	<title>Re:What is the bandwith to iceland anyways?</title>
	<author>icebike</author>
	<datestamp>1263823200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Bandwidth?</p><p>Why worry about that when your island is basically a volcano?</p><p>All that geothermal should be a clue, and if not the Atlantic rift running right up the middle of the island should give you some kind of clue.</p><p><a href="http://www.decadevolcano.net/volcanoes/iceland/graphics/island\_hekla.gif" title="decadevolcano.net">http://www.decadevolcano.net/volcanoes/iceland/graphics/island\_hekla.gif</a> [decadevolcano.net]</p><p>What could Possibly go wrong?<br><a href="http://photography.nationalgeographic.com/staticfiles/NGS/Shared/StaticFiles/Photography/Images/POD/e/eldfell-volcano-41861-sw.jpg" title="nationalgeographic.com">http://photography.nationalgeographic.com/staticfiles/NGS/Shared/StaticFiles/Photography/Images/POD/e/eldfell-volcano-41861-sw.jpg</a> [nationalgeographic.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Bandwidth ? Why worry about that when your island is basically a volcano ? All that geothermal should be a clue , and if not the Atlantic rift running right up the middle of the island should give you some kind of clue.http : //www.decadevolcano.net/volcanoes/iceland/graphics/island \ _hekla.gif [ decadevolcano.net ] What could Possibly go wrong ? http : //photography.nationalgeographic.com/staticfiles/NGS/Shared/StaticFiles/Photography/Images/POD/e/eldfell-volcano-41861-sw.jpg [ nationalgeographic.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bandwidth?Why worry about that when your island is basically a volcano?All that geothermal should be a clue, and if not the Atlantic rift running right up the middle of the island should give you some kind of clue.http://www.decadevolcano.net/volcanoes/iceland/graphics/island\_hekla.gif [decadevolcano.net]What could Possibly go wrong?http://photography.nationalgeographic.com/staticfiles/NGS/Shared/StaticFiles/Photography/Images/POD/e/eldfell-volcano-41861-sw.jpg [nationalgeographic.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30814088</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30817302</id>
	<title>Re:What is the bandwith to iceland anyways?</title>
	<author>idji</author>
	<datestamp>1263895920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>like Eve Online!</htmltext>
<tokenext>like Eve Online !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>like Eve Online!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30815944</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30817078</id>
	<title>Re:Nice power source but..</title>
	<author>heidaro</author>
	<datestamp>1263893040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It erupts every 800-900 years or so I believe, so it's nothing to worry about right now at least.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It erupts every 800-900 years or so I believe , so it 's nothing to worry about right now at least .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It erupts every 800-900 years or so I believe, so it's nothing to worry about right now at least.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30814398</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30814066</id>
	<title>Niggers and kikes</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263816900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You're all niggers and kikes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're all niggers and kikes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're all niggers and kikes.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30814866</id>
	<title>Iceland may offer more than power and cooling</title>
	<author>janwedekind</author>
	<datestamp>1263822540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>According to the <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWNfIvG4z-g" title="youtube.com">Wikileaks 1.0 presentation</a> [youtube.com] Iceland could pass a bill which will provide a last resort for information which is suppressed in other European countries (currently on the <a href="http://wikileaks.org/" title="wikileaks.org">Wikileaks</a> [wikileaks.org] website with a call for donations).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>According to the Wikileaks 1.0 presentation [ youtube.com ] Iceland could pass a bill which will provide a last resort for information which is suppressed in other European countries ( currently on the Wikileaks [ wikileaks.org ] website with a call for donations ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>According to the Wikileaks 1.0 presentation [youtube.com] Iceland could pass a bill which will provide a last resort for information which is suppressed in other European countries (currently on the Wikileaks [wikileaks.org] website with a call for donations).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30814088</id>
	<title>What is the bandwith to iceland anyways?</title>
	<author>Joe The Dragon</author>
	<datestamp>1263817020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What is the bandwith to iceland anyways?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What is the bandwith to iceland anyways ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What is the bandwith to iceland anyways?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30818446</id>
	<title>Re:What is the bandwith to iceland anyways?</title>
	<author>TheRaven64</author>
	<datestamp>1263912000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Of course, that depends a lot on where you start from.  From the UK, ping to Slashdot.org is 120ms, ping to www.icetourist.is is 70ms.  From anywhere in the EU, ping times from Iceland will be lower than ping times to the USA.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Of course , that depends a lot on where you start from .
From the UK , ping to Slashdot.org is 120ms , ping to www.icetourist.is is 70ms .
From anywhere in the EU , ping times from Iceland will be lower than ping times to the USA .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of course, that depends a lot on where you start from.
From the UK, ping to Slashdot.org is 120ms, ping to www.icetourist.is is 70ms.
From anywhere in the EU, ping times from Iceland will be lower than ping times to the USA.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30815218</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30816980</id>
	<title>Re:What is the bandwith to iceland anyways?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263891900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Iceland is midway between America and Europe with 4 cables each way, most transatlantic data goes through Iceland anyway, so moving an USA server to Iceland would shorten the path to germany and the other way around</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Iceland is midway between America and Europe with 4 cables each way , most transatlantic data goes through Iceland anyway , so moving an USA server to Iceland would shorten the path to germany and the other way around</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Iceland is midway between America and Europe with 4 cables each way, most transatlantic data goes through Iceland anyway, so moving an USA server to Iceland would shorten the path to germany and the other way around</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30814858</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30814312</id>
	<title>Re:What is the bandwith to iceland anyways?</title>
	<author>stephanruby</author>
	<datestamp>1263818340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Also, what's the legal system like down there?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Also , what 's the legal system like down there ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Also, what's the legal system like down there?</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30814958</id>
	<title>If Europe really cared about the environment...</title>
	<author>gatkinso</author>
	<datestamp>1263823260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...they would put the data center in GREENland.</p><p>Harharharharhar.  Sigh.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...they would put the data center in GREENland.Harharharharhar .
Sigh .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...they would put the data center in GREENland.Harharharharhar.
Sigh.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30816738</id>
	<title>Re:What is the bandwith to iceland anyways?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263931620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It also sits on a massive fault line.

"Sir, where would you like to have your data center?"
"Well, why don't you put in on top of a F:n VOLCANO!"</htmltext>
<tokenext>It also sits on a massive fault line .
" Sir , where would you like to have your data center ?
" " Well , why do n't you put in on top of a F : n VOLCANO !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It also sits on a massive fault line.
"Sir, where would you like to have your data center?
"
"Well, why don't you put in on top of a F:n VOLCANO!
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30817280</id>
	<title>EVE online, CCP</title>
	<author>egnop</author>
	<datestamp>1263895680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Now I am wondering if CCP is getting their servers back to Iceland instead of the UK</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now I am wondering if CCP is getting their servers back to Iceland instead of the UK</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now I am wondering if CCP is getting their servers back to Iceland instead of the UK</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30815802</id>
	<title>They Will Do a Great Job</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263832260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>          I suspect that Iceland will provide a first rate service. Their climate makes indoor activities and studies much more of a good idea than Miami Beach. It is somewhat like Harvard being in Boston. So much of the year is too cold to do much anything other than study.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I suspect that Iceland will provide a first rate service .
Their climate makes indoor activities and studies much more of a good idea than Miami Beach .
It is somewhat like Harvard being in Boston .
So much of the year is too cold to do much anything other than study .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>          I suspect that Iceland will provide a first rate service.
Their climate makes indoor activities and studies much more of a good idea than Miami Beach.
It is somewhat like Harvard being in Boston.
So much of the year is too cold to do much anything other than study.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30814208</id>
	<title>Improvements to network connectivity</title>
	<author>kilf</author>
	<datestamp>1263817620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It wasn't that long ago that Iceland's only internet access line went via a Scottish high-street that was getting dug up repeatedly, with the inevitable consequences:</p><p><a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11/28/iceland\_without\_broadband/" title="theregister.co.uk">http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11/28/iceland\_without\_broadband/</a> [theregister.co.uk]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It was n't that long ago that Iceland 's only internet access line went via a Scottish high-street that was getting dug up repeatedly , with the inevitable consequences : http : //www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11/28/iceland \ _without \ _broadband/ [ theregister.co.uk ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It wasn't that long ago that Iceland's only internet access line went via a Scottish high-street that was getting dug up repeatedly, with the inevitable consequences:http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11/28/iceland\_without\_broadband/ [theregister.co.uk]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30819644</id>
	<title>Re:What is the bandwith to iceland anyways?</title>
	<author>JAlexoi</author>
	<datestamp>1263918780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>As opposed to having DCs on top of San Andreas fault?</htmltext>
<tokenext>As opposed to having DCs on top of San Andreas fault ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As opposed to having DCs on top of San Andreas fault?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30816738</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30815932</id>
	<title>Great</title>
	<author>PPH</author>
	<datestamp>1263833520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We finally have someplace to host all those Bj&#246;rk MP3s.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We finally have someplace to host all those Bj   rk MP3s .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We finally have someplace to host all those Björk MP3s.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30814774</id>
	<title>chaos computer club wikileaks talk</title>
	<author>molecular</author>
	<datestamp>1263821940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>the wikileaks guys really want this, too.</p><p>the following video is a recording of a very interesting talk by Julian Assange and Daniel Schmitt (wikileaks) at the chaos communication congress (here be dragons) in berlin between the years.</p><p><a href="http://mirror.fem-net.de/CCC/26C3/mp4/26c3-3567-en-wikileaks\_release\_10.mp4" title="fem-net.de" rel="nofollow">http://mirror.fem-net.de/CCC/26C3/mp4/26c3-3567-en-wikileaks\_release\_10.mp4</a> [fem-net.de]<br><a href="http://mirror.fem-net.de/CCC/26C3/mp4/26c3-3567-en-wikileaks\_release\_10.mp4.torrent" title="fem-net.de" rel="nofollow">http://mirror.fem-net.de/CCC/26C3/mp4/26c3-3567-en-wikileaks\_release\_10.mp4.torrent</a> [fem-net.de]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>the wikileaks guys really want this , too.the following video is a recording of a very interesting talk by Julian Assange and Daniel Schmitt ( wikileaks ) at the chaos communication congress ( here be dragons ) in berlin between the years.http : //mirror.fem-net.de/CCC/26C3/mp4/26c3-3567-en-wikileaks \ _release \ _10.mp4 [ fem-net.de ] http : //mirror.fem-net.de/CCC/26C3/mp4/26c3-3567-en-wikileaks \ _release \ _10.mp4.torrent [ fem-net.de ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the wikileaks guys really want this, too.the following video is a recording of a very interesting talk by Julian Assange and Daniel Schmitt (wikileaks) at the chaos communication congress (here be dragons) in berlin between the years.http://mirror.fem-net.de/CCC/26C3/mp4/26c3-3567-en-wikileaks\_release\_10.mp4 [fem-net.de]http://mirror.fem-net.de/CCC/26C3/mp4/26c3-3567-en-wikileaks\_release\_10.mp4.torrent [fem-net.de]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30814676</id>
	<title>Re:What is the bandwith to iceland anyways?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263821100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Zero, they got cut off because they can't pay their bill.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Zero , they got cut off because they ca n't pay their bill .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Zero, they got cut off because they can't pay their bill.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30814088</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30814562</id>
	<title>Re:What is the bandwith to iceland anyways?</title>
	<author>JReykdal</author>
	<datestamp>1263820320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I would rather build my data centre in Lazytown.</p></div><p>Actually Lazytown is situated not far from there. Maybe 30Km<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I would rather build my data centre in Lazytown.Actually Lazytown is situated not far from there .
Maybe 30Km : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would rather build my data centre in Lazytown.Actually Lazytown is situated not far from there.
Maybe 30Km :)
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30814228</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30814858</id>
	<title>Re:What is the bandwith to iceland anyways?</title>
	<author>S-100</author>
	<datestamp>1263822480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>More important is the latency.  You're now talking about a significant trip partway around the globe for many users.  Even the speed of light takes some time to travel 10,000 miles.</htmltext>
<tokenext>More important is the latency .
You 're now talking about a significant trip partway around the globe for many users .
Even the speed of light takes some time to travel 10,000 miles .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>More important is the latency.
You're now talking about a significant trip partway around the globe for many users.
Even the speed of light takes some time to travel 10,000 miles.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30814088</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30814698</id>
	<title>Re:WikiLeaks &amp; Iceland's Legislation</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263821280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWNfIvG4z-g&amp;feature=player\_embedded" title="youtube.com" rel="nofollow">youtube video</a> [youtube.com] should be linked in the summary.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The youtube video [ youtube.com ] should be linked in the summary .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The youtube video [youtube.com] should be linked in the summary.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30814134</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30814834</id>
	<title>Never underestimate the bandwidth...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263822360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...of a floating ice floe. The latency might be large, but it will definitely outperform a Volkswagen.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...of a floating ice floe .
The latency might be large , but it will definitely outperform a Volkswagen .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...of a floating ice floe.
The latency might be large, but it will definitely outperform a Volkswagen.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30814088</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30816482</id>
	<title>I hope that...</title>
	<author>jonfr</author>
	<datestamp>1263841920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I hope that this datacenters can take earthquakes, as they are building them on top of active seismic zone on the Reykjanes. But then there is also the volcano problem and the ash that can happen when a volcano eruption is taking place.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I hope that this datacenters can take earthquakes , as they are building them on top of active seismic zone on the Reykjanes .
But then there is also the volcano problem and the ash that can happen when a volcano eruption is taking place .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hope that this datacenters can take earthquakes, as they are building them on top of active seismic zone on the Reykjanes.
But then there is also the volcano problem and the ash that can happen when a volcano eruption is taking place.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30815078</id>
	<title>Bandwidth is not the issue</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263824100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Wellcome Trust are a huge biomedical research charity.  I would imagine that they are looking for processing power(think folding@home type projects) rather than the ability to serve up millions of webpages.  If so bandwidth will be less of a concern than cheap reliable power and cooling.  Iceland is looking to join the European Union so their Data Protection legislation is probably similar to rest of the EU's.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Wellcome Trust are a huge biomedical research charity .
I would imagine that they are looking for processing power ( think folding @ home type projects ) rather than the ability to serve up millions of webpages .
If so bandwidth will be less of a concern than cheap reliable power and cooling .
Iceland is looking to join the European Union so their Data Protection legislation is probably similar to rest of the EU 's .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Wellcome Trust are a huge biomedical research charity.
I would imagine that they are looking for processing power(think folding@home type projects) rather than the ability to serve up millions of webpages.
If so bandwidth will be less of a concern than cheap reliable power and cooling.
Iceland is looking to join the European Union so their Data Protection legislation is probably similar to rest of the EU's.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30814782</id>
	<title>Re:What is the bandwith to iceland anyways?</title>
	<author>molecular</author>
	<datestamp>1263822000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>What is the bandwith to iceland anyways?</p></div><p>from where you insensitive clod?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What is the bandwith to iceland anyways ? from where you insensitive clod ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What is the bandwith to iceland anyways?from where you insensitive clod?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30814088</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30815944</id>
	<title>Re:What is the bandwith to iceland anyways?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263833760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually no. Since it sits between Europe and North America, its a good place for a site or service that has users from both continents. You most likely already use sites that reside in Europe and we use sites that reside in US (like slashdot) anyway - its the middle ground.</p><p>Just don't use it for gaming servers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually no .
Since it sits between Europe and North America , its a good place for a site or service that has users from both continents .
You most likely already use sites that reside in Europe and we use sites that reside in US ( like slashdot ) anyway - its the middle ground.Just do n't use it for gaming servers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually no.
Since it sits between Europe and North America, its a good place for a site or service that has users from both continents.
You most likely already use sites that reside in Europe and we use sites that reside in US (like slashdot) anyway - its the middle ground.Just don't use it for gaming servers.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30814858</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30814136</id>
	<title>Hilarious editors</title>
	<author>Monkeedude1212</author>
	<datestamp>1263817260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I honestly couldn't care more or less what they do in Iceland, unless it affects me directly.</p><p>However, the title of the article alone has made me smile. It kind of reminds me of myself, throwing out a play on words to get a chuckle. A pun trying to be funny.</p><p>Or should I say... punny.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I honestly could n't care more or less what they do in Iceland , unless it affects me directly.However , the title of the article alone has made me smile .
It kind of reminds me of myself , throwing out a play on words to get a chuckle .
A pun trying to be funny.Or should I say... punny .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I honestly couldn't care more or less what they do in Iceland, unless it affects me directly.However, the title of the article alone has made me smile.
It kind of reminds me of myself, throwing out a play on words to get a chuckle.
A pun trying to be funny.Or should I say... punny.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30814444</id>
	<title>Wasn't that the plot to Cryptonomicon?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263819360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>It was called a data haven and it was in a different country, but Iceland seems to be as good a place as any to build one.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It was called a data haven and it was in a different country , but Iceland seems to be as good a place as any to build one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It was called a data haven and it was in a different country, but Iceland seems to be as good a place as any to build one.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30818000</id>
	<title>Re:Improvements to network connectivity</title>
	<author>Sindri</author>
	<datestamp>1263906360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>No, that was 4 years ago. That's a long time when it comes to internet things.</htmltext>
<tokenext>No , that was 4 years ago .
That 's a long time when it comes to internet things .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, that was 4 years ago.
That's a long time when it comes to internet things.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30814208</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30816510</id>
	<title>Re:Location</title>
	<author>mjwx</author>
	<datestamp>1263842280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I prefer my data-center to be further away from active volcanoes.</p></div></blockquote><p>

Well that explains it.<br> <br>

latency. It must have been latency that caused the volcano death machine to move so slowly and permit Mr Bond to escape. I shall have to build my next evil lair in iceland.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I prefer my data-center to be further away from active volcanoes .
Well that explains it .
latency. It must have been latency that caused the volcano death machine to move so slowly and permit Mr Bond to escape .
I shall have to build my next evil lair in iceland .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I prefer my data-center to be further away from active volcanoes.
Well that explains it.
latency. It must have been latency that caused the volcano death machine to move so slowly and permit Mr Bond to escape.
I shall have to build my next evil lair in iceland.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30814538</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30815326</id>
	<title>$86,000 ea. family owed? Data center</title>
	<author>myspace-cn</author>
	<datestamp>1263826740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dear Iceland, "your government" has allowed institutions in your nation (and elsewhere) to claim that "debt is output" and that speculation constitutes GDP.  That's a willful, knowing lie.<br>Nobody should trust the stability of Iceland at all let alone the ability to keep data safe and keep it available through emergencies, "your government" is already milking you for this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dear Iceland , " your government " has allowed institutions in your nation ( and elsewhere ) to claim that " debt is output " and that speculation constitutes GDP .
That 's a willful , knowing lie.Nobody should trust the stability of Iceland at all let alone the ability to keep data safe and keep it available through emergencies , " your government " is already milking you for this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dear Iceland, "your government" has allowed institutions in your nation (and elsewhere) to claim that "debt is output" and that speculation constitutes GDP.
That's a willful, knowing lie.Nobody should trust the stability of Iceland at all let alone the ability to keep data safe and keep it available through emergencies, "your government" is already milking you for this.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30814398</id>
	<title>Nice power source but..</title>
	<author>assemblyronin</author>
	<datestamp>1263819000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How soon until <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laki\_(volcano)" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Laki</a> [wikipedia.org] blows again?</p><p>I see geothermal power as a bit of a trade off, especially for IT needs; you get a nice sustainable power source, but you're probably in an area where the activity could just as soon destroy your data as well as power it.  Then again, if you hosted your Data Center in Iceland, you could probably afford to have backups in another country far, far away from any 'event'.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How soon until Laki [ wikipedia.org ] blows again ? I see geothermal power as a bit of a trade off , especially for IT needs ; you get a nice sustainable power source , but you 're probably in an area where the activity could just as soon destroy your data as well as power it .
Then again , if you hosted your Data Center in Iceland , you could probably afford to have backups in another country far , far away from any 'event' .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How soon until Laki [wikipedia.org] blows again?I see geothermal power as a bit of a trade off, especially for IT needs; you get a nice sustainable power source, but you're probably in an area where the activity could just as soon destroy your data as well as power it.
Then again, if you hosted your Data Center in Iceland, you could probably afford to have backups in another country far, far away from any 'event'.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30814228</id>
	<title>Re:What is the bandwith to iceland anyways?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263817740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I would rather build my data centre in Lazytown.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would rather build my data centre in Lazytown .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would rather build my data centre in Lazytown.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30814088</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30815218</id>
	<title>Re:What is the bandwith to iceland anyways?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263825600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>10000 miles / 186000 miles/sec *1000=54 ms
<p>
ping to iceland is a little over 150 ms.  ping to slashdot is over 100 ms less than that. Travel time accounts for less than 1/2 of the difference.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>10000 miles / 186000 miles/sec * 1000 = 54 ms ping to iceland is a little over 150 ms. ping to slashdot is over 100 ms less than that .
Travel time accounts for less than 1/2 of the difference .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>10000 miles / 186000 miles/sec *1000=54 ms

ping to iceland is a little over 150 ms.  ping to slashdot is over 100 ms less than that.
Travel time accounts for less than 1/2 of the difference.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30814858</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30814744</id>
	<title>This is very good news</title>
	<author>Arancaytar</author>
	<datestamp>1263821760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Especially since Iceland is essentially bankrupt. Projects like this will help get its economy on the way to recovery, and hopefully accomplish great things for the infrastructure of the internet as well. Particularly if the safe-harbor legislation gets... through...</p><p>Woah. I just realized:</p><p>Does this mean we can refer to Iceland as Kinakuta now?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Especially since Iceland is essentially bankrupt .
Projects like this will help get its economy on the way to recovery , and hopefully accomplish great things for the infrastructure of the internet as well .
Particularly if the safe-harbor legislation gets... through...Woah. I just realized : Does this mean we can refer to Iceland as Kinakuta now ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Especially since Iceland is essentially bankrupt.
Projects like this will help get its economy on the way to recovery, and hopefully accomplish great things for the infrastructure of the internet as well.
Particularly if the safe-harbor legislation gets... through...Woah. I just realized:Does this mean we can refer to Iceland as Kinakuta now?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30817450</id>
	<title>Wasn't Iceland a Seismic land?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263897960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Iceland a geologically unstable land with an high rate of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volcanism\_of\_Iceland" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">volcanoes</a> [wikipedia.org] because traversed by a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fault\_(geology)" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">fault line</a> [wikipedia.org] and thus subject to <a href="http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/world/iceland/seismicity.php" title="usgs.gov" rel="nofollow">seismicity</a> [usgs.gov]?</p><p>Right, someone could object that also <a href="http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/states/california/seismicity.php" title="usgs.gov" rel="nofollow">some</a> [usgs.gov] <a href="http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/bulletin/neic\_qkc8\_h.html" title="usgs.gov" rel="nofollow">other</a> [usgs.gov] <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flood\_control\_in\_the\_Netherlands" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow"> place</a> [wikipedia.org] as well filled with <a href="http://www.facebook.com/" title="facebook.com" rel="nofollow">important </a> [facebook.com] <a href="http://www.google.com/" title="google.com" rel="nofollow">datacenters</a> [google.com] and <a href="http://www.ams-ix.net/statistics/" title="ams-ix.net" rel="nofollow"> nodes</a> [ams-ix.net] has far more seismicity or happens to be under water level in times of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Current\_sea\_level\_rise" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">sea level rise</a> [wikipedia.org], but still.</p><p>Although geografic spreading like in <a href="http://www.akamai.com/" title="akamai.com" rel="nofollow">Akamai</a> [akamai.com] make a non-problem of this, at least for big data providers who can afford them: how do we confront the problem of nodes like AMS-IX and <a href="http://www.nyiix.net/" title="nyiix.net" rel="nofollow">other </a> [nyiix.net] <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_Internet\_exchange\_points\_by\_size" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Internet Exchange Points of NAPs</a> [wikipedia.org] potentially vulnerable, and not only to the force of nature?</p><p>Would the Net Transit survive a Big One, and then be useful as emergency service too and for communications, the reason it was initially made for, or would it miserably fail by the falling of one of its major nodes? So then does it really make sense to concentrate too many resources in the same place other than from an economic point of view?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Correct me if I 'm wrong but was n't Iceland a geologically unstable land with an high rate of volcanoes [ wikipedia.org ] because traversed by a fault line [ wikipedia.org ] and thus subject to seismicity [ usgs.gov ] ? Right , someone could object that also some [ usgs.gov ] other [ usgs.gov ] place [ wikipedia.org ] as well filled with important [ facebook.com ] datacenters [ google.com ] and nodes [ ams-ix.net ] has far more seismicity or happens to be under water level in times of sea level rise [ wikipedia.org ] , but still.Although geografic spreading like in Akamai [ akamai.com ] make a non-problem of this , at least for big data providers who can afford them : how do we confront the problem of nodes like AMS-IX and other [ nyiix.net ] Internet Exchange Points of NAPs [ wikipedia.org ] potentially vulnerable , and not only to the force of nature ? Would the Net Transit survive a Big One , and then be useful as emergency service too and for communications , the reason it was initially made for , or would it miserably fail by the falling of one of its major nodes ?
So then does it really make sense to concentrate too many resources in the same place other than from an economic point of view ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Iceland a geologically unstable land with an high rate of volcanoes [wikipedia.org] because traversed by a fault line [wikipedia.org] and thus subject to seismicity [usgs.gov]?Right, someone could object that also some [usgs.gov] other [usgs.gov]  place [wikipedia.org] as well filled with important  [facebook.com] datacenters [google.com] and  nodes [ams-ix.net] has far more seismicity or happens to be under water level in times of sea level rise [wikipedia.org], but still.Although geografic spreading like in Akamai [akamai.com] make a non-problem of this, at least for big data providers who can afford them: how do we confront the problem of nodes like AMS-IX and other  [nyiix.net] Internet Exchange Points of NAPs [wikipedia.org] potentially vulnerable, and not only to the force of nature?Would the Net Transit survive a Big One, and then be useful as emergency service too and for communications, the reason it was initially made for, or would it miserably fail by the falling of one of its major nodes?
So then does it really make sense to concentrate too many resources in the same place other than from an economic point of view?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30814134</id>
	<title>WikiLeaks &amp; Iceland's Legislation</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263817260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wikileaks has a proposal to get a bunch of different free-speech, safe-harbor, journalist-protection style legislation through Iceland so as to both spur this kind of development, as well as provide a political safe-haven for data.  Apparently it has caught on pretty well locally, and with a small population it's not particularly difficult to get such legislation passed on short notice.
<br> <br>

<a href="http://www.wikileaks.org/" title="wikileaks.org">http://www.wikileaks.org/</a> [wikileaks.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wikileaks has a proposal to get a bunch of different free-speech , safe-harbor , journalist-protection style legislation through Iceland so as to both spur this kind of development , as well as provide a political safe-haven for data .
Apparently it has caught on pretty well locally , and with a small population it 's not particularly difficult to get such legislation passed on short notice .
http : //www.wikileaks.org/ [ wikileaks.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wikileaks has a proposal to get a bunch of different free-speech, safe-harbor, journalist-protection style legislation through Iceland so as to both spur this kind of development, as well as provide a political safe-haven for data.
Apparently it has caught on pretty well locally, and with a small population it's not particularly difficult to get such legislation passed on short notice.
http://www.wikileaks.org/ [wikileaks.org]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30814242</id>
	<title>Re:What is the bandwith to iceland anyways?</title>
	<author>Dragoniz3r</author>
	<datestamp>1263817800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>If wiki is to be believed, 3 x 2.5gbit/sec (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transatlantic\_telephone\_cable" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">List of Transatlantic cables</a> [wikipedia.org] and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CANTAT-3" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">The one that makes a stop in Iceland</a> [wikipedia.org])</htmltext>
<tokenext>If wiki is to be believed , 3 x 2.5gbit/sec ( List of Transatlantic cables [ wikipedia.org ] and The one that makes a stop in Iceland [ wikipedia.org ] )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If wiki is to be believed, 3 x 2.5gbit/sec (List of Transatlantic cables [wikipedia.org] and The one that makes a stop in Iceland [wikipedia.org])</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30814538</id>
	<title>Location</title>
	<author>Lazlo Woodbine</author>
	<datestamp>1263820080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I prefer my data-center to be further away from active volcanoes.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I prefer my data-center to be further away from active volcanoes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I prefer my data-center to be further away from active volcanoes.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30814882</id>
	<title>Re:Location</title>
	<author>molecular</author>
	<datestamp>1263822660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I prefer my data-center to be further away from active volcanoes.</p></div><p>I, for one, prefer my datacenters be as far as possible away from a scared-to-death, self-centered, 1984-style, patriotic, homeland-secured government that just got a big one in the nuts on september 11th.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I prefer my data-center to be further away from active volcanoes.I , for one , prefer my datacenters be as far as possible away from a scared-to-death , self-centered , 1984-style , patriotic , homeland-secured government that just got a big one in the nuts on september 11th .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I prefer my data-center to be further away from active volcanoes.I, for one, prefer my datacenters be as far as possible away from a scared-to-death, self-centered, 1984-style, patriotic, homeland-secured government that just got a big one in the nuts on september 11th.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30814162</id>
	<title>I wellcome and trust our new icelandic overlords.</title>
	<author>Xipe66</author>
	<datestamp>1263817380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Good timing with the debt issue climaxing.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Good timing with the debt issue climaxing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Good timing with the debt issue climaxing.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30814176</id>
	<title>It's oh so quiet</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263817440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's oh so still<br>You're all alone<br>And so peaceful until...</p><p>Your site gets Slashdotted</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's oh so stillYou 're all aloneAnd so peaceful until...Your site gets Slashdotted</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's oh so stillYou're all aloneAnd so peaceful until...Your site gets Slashdotted</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30816624</id>
	<title>Re:WikiLeaks &amp; Iceland's Legislation</title>
	<author>laddiebuck</author>
	<datestamp>1263843600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>Apparently it has caught on pretty well locally, and with a small population it's not particularly difficult to get such legislation passed on short notice. </i> <br> <br>
Nor hard to reverse it when things go south.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Apparently it has caught on pretty well locally , and with a small population it 's not particularly difficult to get such legislation passed on short notice .
Nor hard to reverse it when things go south .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apparently it has caught on pretty well locally, and with a small population it's not particularly difficult to get such legislation passed on short notice.
Nor hard to reverse it when things go south.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30856634</id>
	<title>Re:What is the bandwith to iceland anyways?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1264098660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Give him a break, no one is lazy in lazytown</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Give him a break , no one is lazy in lazytown</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Give him a break, no one is lazy in lazytown</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_2234226.30815154</id>
	<title>Re:What is the bandwith to iceland anyways?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263824760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; From what I understand, it's really pretty good.  A lot of the transatlantic bandwidth goes up and over, rather than straight across underwater.  It helps to have repeaters occasionally, and it's nice if you can service them with a quick drive, rather than a submarine dive.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)  It's suppose to make for a very nice place to have service, with fast pipes pointing towards the Northeast US and Western Europe.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; In an ideal world, if you had to locate for customers in both the US and Europe, it would be a great place.  I know routing doesn't always cooperate as well as you'd like though.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; Way back when, I had servers in New York, and in Germany (among other places).  Many European customers complained about the speeds to the German datacenter.  Some of those were even in the same city in Germany as our equipment. The ones that sent me traceroutes showed that they were being routed from Germany to New York, and then back to Germany.  Needless to say, the latency on that was a nightmare.  In the end, we moved all of our European traffic to New York, and we started getting thank you notes from all over Europe.  We didn't announce what we did, but they could tell the difference in speed.  Most of the customers assumed that we simply changed the operation in Europe.  They were completely unaware that they were being served out of New York.  Well, except the few who knew enough to run a traceroute.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; So, the Iceland datacenters may be a wonderful thing, or they may be a project that dies in it's infancy.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; I know a lot of folks like having their servers within reach.  That is, somewhere they can drive to from their home or office in a reasonable amount of time.  I've seen with customers all over.  Just because they live in god forsaken (and bandwidth limited) nowhere, they'll still host locally.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>    From what I understand , it 's really pretty good .
A lot of the transatlantic bandwidth goes up and over , rather than straight across underwater .
It helps to have repeaters occasionally , and it 's nice if you can service them with a quick drive , rather than a submarine dive .
: ) It 's suppose to make for a very nice place to have service , with fast pipes pointing towards the Northeast US and Western Europe .
    In an ideal world , if you had to locate for customers in both the US and Europe , it would be a great place .
I know routing does n't always cooperate as well as you 'd like though .
    Way back when , I had servers in New York , and in Germany ( among other places ) .
Many European customers complained about the speeds to the German datacenter .
Some of those were even in the same city in Germany as our equipment .
The ones that sent me traceroutes showed that they were being routed from Germany to New York , and then back to Germany .
Needless to say , the latency on that was a nightmare .
In the end , we moved all of our European traffic to New York , and we started getting thank you notes from all over Europe .
We did n't announce what we did , but they could tell the difference in speed .
Most of the customers assumed that we simply changed the operation in Europe .
They were completely unaware that they were being served out of New York .
Well , except the few who knew enough to run a traceroute .
: )     So , the Iceland datacenters may be a wonderful thing , or they may be a project that dies in it 's infancy .
    I know a lot of folks like having their servers within reach .
That is , somewhere they can drive to from their home or office in a reasonable amount of time .
I 've seen with customers all over .
Just because they live in god forsaken ( and bandwidth limited ) nowhere , they 'll still host locally .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
    From what I understand, it's really pretty good.
A lot of the transatlantic bandwidth goes up and over, rather than straight across underwater.
It helps to have repeaters occasionally, and it's nice if you can service them with a quick drive, rather than a submarine dive.
:)  It's suppose to make for a very nice place to have service, with fast pipes pointing towards the Northeast US and Western Europe.
    In an ideal world, if you had to locate for customers in both the US and Europe, it would be a great place.
I know routing doesn't always cooperate as well as you'd like though.
    Way back when, I had servers in New York, and in Germany (among other places).
Many European customers complained about the speeds to the German datacenter.
Some of those were even in the same city in Germany as our equipment.
The ones that sent me traceroutes showed that they were being routed from Germany to New York, and then back to Germany.
Needless to say, the latency on that was a nightmare.
In the end, we moved all of our European traffic to New York, and we started getting thank you notes from all over Europe.
We didn't announce what we did, but they could tell the difference in speed.
Most of the customers assumed that we simply changed the operation in Europe.
They were completely unaware that they were being served out of New York.
Well, except the few who knew enough to run a traceroute.
:)
    So, the Iceland datacenters may be a wonderful thing, or they may be a project that dies in it's infancy.
    I know a lot of folks like having their servers within reach.
That is, somewhere they can drive to from their home or office in a reasonable amount of time.
I've seen with customers all over.
Just because they live in god forsaken (and bandwidth limited) nowhere, they'll still host locally.</sentencetext>
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