<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_01_18_0020203</id>
	<title>ChromeOS Zero Released</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1263817200000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>charliesome writes <i>"<a href="http://hexxeh.net/">Hexxeh</a>, a student from the United Kingdom, has been <em>the</em> source for ChromeOS builds since the release of the Google operating system. He's just released <a href="http://chromeos.hexxeh.net/">ChromeOS Zero</a>, a small build designed for speed and aesthetics. He recently did an <a href="http://www.thechromesource.com/interview-chrome-os-zeros-hexxeh/">interview with The Chrome Source</a>."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>charliesome writes " Hexxeh , a student from the United Kingdom , has been the source for ChromeOS builds since the release of the Google operating system .
He 's just released ChromeOS Zero , a small build designed for speed and aesthetics .
He recently did an interview with The Chrome Source .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>charliesome writes "Hexxeh, a student from the United Kingdom, has been the source for ChromeOS builds since the release of the Google operating system.
He's just released ChromeOS Zero, a small build designed for speed and aesthetics.
He recently did an interview with The Chrome Source.
"</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30809886</id>
	<title>Re:Friend, I am about to destroy your arguments.</title>
	<author>Howitzer86</author>
	<datestamp>1263839760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Anonymity is power.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Anonymity is power .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anonymity is power.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30804070</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30804286</id>
	<title>Re:Arrr!</title>
	<author>node 3</author>
	<datestamp>1263747480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>This guy should distribute this as a VirtualBox machine or so.</p></div><p>Why? Isn't Chrome available for your OS? ChromiumOS in a vm seems like a lot of work to just run Chrome/Chromium.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Do I really want to *boot* into something that is just a browser without an OS and without apps?</p></div><p>Apparently not. Fortunately, no one is demanding you do so.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Gimme something to use and to play with on the side and I may have fun with it.</p></div><p>Just run Chrome. If you find playing around with alternative OSs (including something as limited as ChromiumOS), I'm sure you won't have trouble installing it in virtualbox yourself.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Pulling my teeth would be more fun than booting into Chrome on a real machine, sorry.</p></div><p>No need to be sorry. Chromium isn't meant for "real machines" (whatever that really means anyway). It's directed at netbooks. I'm unaware of anyone suggesting it's suitable for your "real machine".</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This guy should distribute this as a VirtualBox machine or so.Why ?
Is n't Chrome available for your OS ?
ChromiumOS in a vm seems like a lot of work to just run Chrome/Chromium.Do I really want to * boot * into something that is just a browser without an OS and without apps ? Apparently not .
Fortunately , no one is demanding you do so.Gim me something to use and to play with on the side and I may have fun with it.Just run Chrome .
If you find playing around with alternative OSs ( including something as limited as ChromiumOS ) , I 'm sure you wo n't have trouble installing it in virtualbox yourself.Pulling my teeth would be more fun than booting into Chrome on a real machine , sorry.No need to be sorry .
Chromium is n't meant for " real machines " ( whatever that really means anyway ) .
It 's directed at netbooks .
I 'm unaware of anyone suggesting it 's suitable for your " real machine " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This guy should distribute this as a VirtualBox machine or so.Why?
Isn't Chrome available for your OS?
ChromiumOS in a vm seems like a lot of work to just run Chrome/Chromium.Do I really want to *boot* into something that is just a browser without an OS and without apps?Apparently not.
Fortunately, no one is demanding you do so.Gimme something to use and to play with on the side and I may have fun with it.Just run Chrome.
If you find playing around with alternative OSs (including something as limited as ChromiumOS), I'm sure you won't have trouble installing it in virtualbox yourself.Pulling my teeth would be more fun than booting into Chrome on a real machine, sorry.No need to be sorry.
Chromium isn't meant for "real machines" (whatever that really means anyway).
It's directed at netbooks.
I'm unaware of anyone suggesting it's suitable for your "real machine".
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30803168</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30806354</id>
	<title>There, fixed that for you:</title>
	<author>MancunianMaskMan</author>
	<datestamp>1263817380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>but this OS is still a newborn.</p></div><p>.. but this new OS is a stillborn</p><p>

couldn't resist</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>but this OS is still a newborn... but this new OS is a stillborn could n't resist</tokentext>
<sentencetext>but this OS is still a newborn... but this new OS is a stillborn

couldn't resist
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30802952</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30809208</id>
	<title>Re:Friend, I am about to destroy your arguments.</title>
	<author>turbotroll</author>
	<datestamp>1263836760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Very well written.  I fail to understand why is your post modded as "funny" at this moment, though.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Very well written .
I fail to understand why is your post modded as " funny " at this moment , though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Very well written.
I fail to understand why is your post modded as "funny" at this moment, though.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30804070</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30803508</id>
	<title>Re:OK. I need a Karma whore.</title>
	<author>LostCluster</author>
	<datestamp>1263740400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>He compiled the code that Google only officially releases as source code to the public at this time, and this his third release, after fixing several problems he discovered. He's one of the few people working on this OS that Google doesn't employ.</htmltext>
<tokenext>He compiled the code that Google only officially releases as source code to the public at this time , and this his third release , after fixing several problems he discovered .
He 's one of the few people working on this OS that Google does n't employ .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He compiled the code that Google only officially releases as source code to the public at this time, and this his third release, after fixing several problems he discovered.
He's one of the few people working on this OS that Google doesn't employ.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30802926</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30806210</id>
	<title>Re:May the competition begin.</title>
	<author>fredrik70</author>
	<datestamp>1263815400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>according to <a href="http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2007/03/8966.ars" title="arstechnica.com">this link</a> [arstechnica.com], they still have some way to go..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>according to this link [ arstechnica.com ] , they still have some way to go. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>according to this link [arstechnica.com], they still have some way to go..</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30802886</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30804706</id>
	<title>Re:And the point of this is ... ???</title>
	<author>DrDitto</author>
	<datestamp>1263751380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I find my computer worthless when disconnected from the internet.  Any code I write is done on remote systems.  I grew out of gaming long ago.  Perhaps I would edit/organize photos, but thats about it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I find my computer worthless when disconnected from the internet .
Any code I write is done on remote systems .
I grew out of gaming long ago .
Perhaps I would edit/organize photos , but thats about it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I find my computer worthless when disconnected from the internet.
Any code I write is done on remote systems.
I grew out of gaming long ago.
Perhaps I would edit/organize photos, but thats about it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30803750</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30810148</id>
	<title>Re:May the competition begin.</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1263840900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, correct me if I&rsquo;m wrong, but ChromeOS is not a real actual full desktop OS. (Ok, some say Windows also isn&rsquo;t.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)<br>More a bare-bones kernel running a web browser as its graphical shell.<br>It&rsquo;s more like a nice frontend for limited devices like smartbooks. You can browse, mail, communicate, and use your movies/music/etc. (All in the browser. No connection, and you&rsquo;re done. Google closing it down, and you&rsquo;re done.)</p><p>But that&rsquo;s about it.</p><p>P.S.: If you disagree, and actually care about changing my mind, I recommend telling me below, instead of moderating.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , correct me if I    m wrong , but ChromeOS is not a real actual full desktop OS .
( Ok , some say Windows also isn    t .
; ) More a bare-bones kernel running a web browser as its graphical shell.It    s more like a nice frontend for limited devices like smartbooks .
You can browse , mail , communicate , and use your movies/music/etc .
( All in the browser .
No connection , and you    re done .
Google closing it down , and you    re done .
) But that    s about it.P.S .
: If you disagree , and actually care about changing my mind , I recommend telling me below , instead of moderating .
; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, correct me if I’m wrong, but ChromeOS is not a real actual full desktop OS.
(Ok, some say Windows also isn’t.
;)More a bare-bones kernel running a web browser as its graphical shell.It’s more like a nice frontend for limited devices like smartbooks.
You can browse, mail, communicate, and use your movies/music/etc.
(All in the browser.
No connection, and you’re done.
Google closing it down, and you’re done.
)But that’s about it.P.S.
: If you disagree, and actually care about changing my mind, I recommend telling me below, instead of moderating.
;)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30802886</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30803060</id>
	<title>Re:OK. I need a Karma whore.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263736320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>TFA says it is ChromiumOS. Chromium is the is the open source version of Chrome.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>TFA says it is ChromiumOS .
Chromium is the is the open source version of Chrome .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>TFA says it is ChromiumOS.
Chromium is the is the open source version of Chrome.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30802926</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30802952</id>
	<title>SlowNewsDay?</title>
	<author>LostCluster</author>
	<datestamp>1263735420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not quite sure this deserves the attention that a Slashdot story gets it. This isn't a milestone release by Google, but by a kid who downloaded the open code then did a little tinkering to get it working on his stuff, then his friend's stuff. Cool, yes.. but this OS is still a newborn.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not quite sure this deserves the attention that a Slashdot story gets it .
This is n't a milestone release by Google , but by a kid who downloaded the open code then did a little tinkering to get it working on his stuff , then his friend 's stuff .
Cool , yes.. but this OS is still a newborn .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not quite sure this deserves the attention that a Slashdot story gets it.
This isn't a milestone release by Google, but by a kid who downloaded the open code then did a little tinkering to get it working on his stuff, then his friend's stuff.
Cool, yes.. but this OS is still a newborn.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30804318</id>
	<title>Re:ChromeOS Zero - what's so special about it?</title>
	<author>mysidia</author>
	<datestamp>1263747840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
This is just some software engineer's rebellion against a professor that made him use a pure functional language in early childhood, without allowing access to intoxicating side-effects.
</p><p>
In Exchange, he decided to release a major software program with nothing but GOTO statements and JMPs to call executables, no functions at all.
</p><p>
Take that, Mr. Scheme!
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is just some software engineer 's rebellion against a professor that made him use a pure functional language in early childhood , without allowing access to intoxicating side-effects .
In Exchange , he decided to release a major software program with nothing but GOTO statements and JMPs to call executables , no functions at all .
Take that , Mr. Scheme !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
This is just some software engineer's rebellion against a professor that made him use a pure functional language in early childhood, without allowing access to intoxicating side-effects.
In Exchange, he decided to release a major software program with nothing but GOTO statements and JMPs to call executables, no functions at all.
Take that, Mr. Scheme!
</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30803036</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30811808</id>
	<title>Re:Friend, I am about to destroy your arguments.</title>
	<author>zen\_sky</author>
	<datestamp>1263805680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>OK, let me get this straight. You are saying that ONE computer in one house, accessed through ONE internet provider, (maybe two) is better than billions of dollars of hardened data centers from Google, Microsoft, Rackspace, etc?
I suggest you wake up and smell the ubiquitous data access dood, before someone decides to jack your vintage Sun workstation from your basement.
I will not mention the cell networks, since you depend on those very same networks, just like everybody else, unless you're home and a flood, fire or brownout has not nuked your hardware, along with all your data. (Yeah, I know, offsite backups, how many days till you're back up, if you can find the key to the safety deposit box, redundancy is a bitch in a non-virtual environment)</htmltext>
<tokenext>OK , let me get this straight .
You are saying that ONE computer in one house , accessed through ONE internet provider , ( maybe two ) is better than billions of dollars of hardened data centers from Google , Microsoft , Rackspace , etc ?
I suggest you wake up and smell the ubiquitous data access dood , before someone decides to jack your vintage Sun workstation from your basement .
I will not mention the cell networks , since you depend on those very same networks , just like everybody else , unless you 're home and a flood , fire or brownout has not nuked your hardware , along with all your data .
( Yeah , I know , offsite backups , how many days till you 're back up , if you can find the key to the safety deposit box , redundancy is a bitch in a non-virtual environment )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OK, let me get this straight.
You are saying that ONE computer in one house, accessed through ONE internet provider, (maybe two) is better than billions of dollars of hardened data centers from Google, Microsoft, Rackspace, etc?
I suggest you wake up and smell the ubiquitous data access dood, before someone decides to jack your vintage Sun workstation from your basement.
I will not mention the cell networks, since you depend on those very same networks, just like everybody else, unless you're home and a flood, fire or brownout has not nuked your hardware, along with all your data.
(Yeah, I know, offsite backups, how many days till you're back up, if you can find the key to the safety deposit box, redundancy is a bitch in a non-virtual environment)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30804070</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30803078</id>
	<title>ChromeOS ?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263736500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is ChromiumOS, and the open source he has is Chromium OS too. There's a differrent between Chromium and Chrome, like the browser.

Corect me.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is ChromiumOS , and the open source he has is Chromium OS too .
There 's a differrent between Chromium and Chrome , like the browser .
Corect me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is ChromiumOS, and the open source he has is Chromium OS too.
There's a differrent between Chromium and Chrome, like the browser.
Corect me.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30803414</id>
	<title>Re:Maybe he'll make Chrome OS useful!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263739500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think the real limitation right now is that HTML5 and WebGL haven't been ratified yet. Hopefully Google is waiting for those; with them, I don't think it is out of the question that a larger variety of useful web apps will be written. I personally hope that they will make web versions of SketchUp and either they or someone else will make a subscription gaming service that runs entirely on web technologies.</p><p>The only possible problem I can see is the whole saving everything to the cloud thing. Flash drives don't cost that much; would much rather keep my data local. Hopefully it won't be a requirement.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think the real limitation right now is that HTML5 and WebGL have n't been ratified yet .
Hopefully Google is waiting for those ; with them , I do n't think it is out of the question that a larger variety of useful web apps will be written .
I personally hope that they will make web versions of SketchUp and either they or someone else will make a subscription gaming service that runs entirely on web technologies.The only possible problem I can see is the whole saving everything to the cloud thing .
Flash drives do n't cost that much ; would much rather keep my data local .
Hopefully it wo n't be a requirement .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think the real limitation right now is that HTML5 and WebGL haven't been ratified yet.
Hopefully Google is waiting for those; with them, I don't think it is out of the question that a larger variety of useful web apps will be written.
I personally hope that they will make web versions of SketchUp and either they or someone else will make a subscription gaming service that runs entirely on web technologies.The only possible problem I can see is the whole saving everything to the cloud thing.
Flash drives don't cost that much; would much rather keep my data local.
Hopefully it won't be a requirement.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30803080</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30804994</id>
	<title>Is a Google account still a requirement</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263754920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is a Google account still a requirement? I think it is pretty fucked up you can't even use the OS in any way unless you sign in to your Google account. No thanks Moblin serves me fine, hey and I can still sign in to Google if I want.</p><p>Next thing I know I will be deny access to some building because I don't have a facebook account.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is a Google account still a requirement ?
I think it is pretty fucked up you ca n't even use the OS in any way unless you sign in to your Google account .
No thanks Moblin serves me fine , hey and I can still sign in to Google if I want.Next thing I know I will be deny access to some building because I do n't have a facebook account .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is a Google account still a requirement?
I think it is pretty fucked up you can't even use the OS in any way unless you sign in to your Google account.
No thanks Moblin serves me fine, hey and I can still sign in to Google if I want.Next thing I know I will be deny access to some building because I don't have a facebook account.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30804134</id>
	<title>crickets chirping....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263746160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>......</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>..... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>......</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30819678</id>
	<title>Re:Friend, I am about to destroy your arguments.</title>
	<author>Big\_Mamma</author>
	<datestamp>1263919020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You raise a few good points, but really, hosted apps aren't all evil, and not everyone is that distrusting. Google Apps for Business has a <a href="http://www.google.com/apps/intl/en/business/customers.html" title="google.com" rel="nofollow">long list of clients</a> [google.com] who depends on it, and there are enough businesses 'living on Sharepoint' on their intranet. <br> <br>

HTTP is just another protocol, it's not better or worse than a proprietary one, just different. And with all of them, if you lose connectivity to the server for whatever reason, you're doomed.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You raise a few good points , but really , hosted apps are n't all evil , and not everyone is that distrusting .
Google Apps for Business has a long list of clients [ google.com ] who depends on it , and there are enough businesses 'living on Sharepoint ' on their intranet .
HTTP is just another protocol , it 's not better or worse than a proprietary one , just different .
And with all of them , if you lose connectivity to the server for whatever reason , you 're doomed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You raise a few good points, but really, hosted apps aren't all evil, and not everyone is that distrusting.
Google Apps for Business has a long list of clients [google.com] who depends on it, and there are enough businesses 'living on Sharepoint' on their intranet.
HTTP is just another protocol, it's not better or worse than a proprietary one, just different.
And with all of them, if you lose connectivity to the server for whatever reason, you're doomed.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30804070</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30822060</id>
	<title>Re:Friend, I am about to destroy your arguments.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263928920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm not exactly the biggest proponent of the cloud.. But the brunt of your argument says that we shouldn't support cloud technology because it is unstable, or because your/the cloud's connection to the net can go down.  While this is true, does this outweigh the benefits for the cost of mobile based computing?  I'd rather pay 300 for a netbook that does everything I need for work (determine connectivity, set static ips, console into routers, ping/tracert/etc/etc) than 3000 for features I really don't need on a work laptop. Maybe the clouds a better tech for casual computing instead of business computing, where reliability is slightly less important.  You must understand that we are moving to a time where broadband/intranet connection speed can nearly rival our processing capability (not in the days of 300bps/8mhz anymore, now its 3mbit, 8ghz, ~10000x, vs ~1000x difference) and this must be accounted for in the way we access data.  Ask Ellison who was working on the network desktop idea since the 80s. It's not like companies don't suffer downtime when their servers crash currently in business.  Ask anyone who has worked at a variety of offices/businesses if they've ever had downtime due to software/hardware crashes in this kind of environment.  And I do retail POS work as well, some of these machines are old as crap (&gt;10 years), completely full of dust most of the time, sometimes running software as old as W98 or older (who'd have thought that could be stable one day! =), but they've helped produce millions of dollars of revenue.  Look at Macys, some of their furniture/housewares/matresses depts still use old IBM greenscreen terminals connected to a mainframe for most of their inventory/ordering.  Although they are now replacing them with networked desktop chopped down POS boxes, they have served well.</p><p>You say that your POS software that doesn't run 'over the net' works fine when you lose your WAN connection.. Well maybe you can verify credit cards if your dial backup doesnt fail, but how stable is your networked store?  A complete net outage still kills you.  You can take CC/debit but not verify funds, etc.  You are back to the stone ages anyway without the net, the cashiers would have to call for authorization for every card.  Your argument of relying on the net is null and void because just about everything that makes a lot of money relies on the net in some way whether its browser, packet layer, etc.  Unless you're doing CAD, graphics, programming, or something.  Many applications today are built to be non-location specific, i.e run from anywhere with a net connection, multiple optimization and compatibility with any hardware.  Where back in the 70s many programs would run on one type of hardware only..  A lot of software are even using P2P to push updates.  I know, that's not cloud technology, just the way the business computing model has evolved. Why duplicate a whole server hardware setup when the infrastructure is already in place to virtualize?</p><p>I guess you have never seen POS software running on citrix on a thin client? Agreed its 3\% of all POS systems but the fact is it works for them! A major net outage screws them, but with multiple redundant conections they don't really have problems outside of failed hardware etc..</p><p>Not that I want some huge corporation to be in control of my data, or even necessarily see it if its important to me.  If I was doing anything such as software engineering, or dealing with large amounts of personal data, the cloud would not be involved in my work in any way.  But like I said, on a casual scale, the technology could be VERY useful one day.  Why make fun of a dreamer? You have outlined a couple good points but your inability to see where this technology could be useful shows your bitterness.  Sounds like you are paranoid about security.  Ever had one of your secure, non-cloud servers hacked by some skriptkid with 0day?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not exactly the biggest proponent of the cloud.. But the brunt of your argument says that we should n't support cloud technology because it is unstable , or because your/the cloud 's connection to the net can go down .
While this is true , does this outweigh the benefits for the cost of mobile based computing ?
I 'd rather pay 300 for a netbook that does everything I need for work ( determine connectivity , set static ips , console into routers , ping/tracert/etc/etc ) than 3000 for features I really do n't need on a work laptop .
Maybe the clouds a better tech for casual computing instead of business computing , where reliability is slightly less important .
You must understand that we are moving to a time where broadband/intranet connection speed can nearly rival our processing capability ( not in the days of 300bps/8mhz anymore , now its 3mbit , 8ghz , ~ 10000x , vs ~ 1000x difference ) and this must be accounted for in the way we access data .
Ask Ellison who was working on the network desktop idea since the 80s .
It 's not like companies do n't suffer downtime when their servers crash currently in business .
Ask anyone who has worked at a variety of offices/businesses if they 've ever had downtime due to software/hardware crashes in this kind of environment .
And I do retail POS work as well , some of these machines are old as crap ( &gt; 10 years ) , completely full of dust most of the time , sometimes running software as old as W98 or older ( who 'd have thought that could be stable one day !
= ) , but they 've helped produce millions of dollars of revenue .
Look at Macys , some of their furniture/housewares/matresses depts still use old IBM greenscreen terminals connected to a mainframe for most of their inventory/ordering .
Although they are now replacing them with networked desktop chopped down POS boxes , they have served well.You say that your POS software that does n't run 'over the net ' works fine when you lose your WAN connection.. Well maybe you can verify credit cards if your dial backup doesnt fail , but how stable is your networked store ?
A complete net outage still kills you .
You can take CC/debit but not verify funds , etc .
You are back to the stone ages anyway without the net , the cashiers would have to call for authorization for every card .
Your argument of relying on the net is null and void because just about everything that makes a lot of money relies on the net in some way whether its browser , packet layer , etc .
Unless you 're doing CAD , graphics , programming , or something .
Many applications today are built to be non-location specific , i.e run from anywhere with a net connection , multiple optimization and compatibility with any hardware .
Where back in the 70s many programs would run on one type of hardware only.. A lot of software are even using P2P to push updates .
I know , that 's not cloud technology , just the way the business computing model has evolved .
Why duplicate a whole server hardware setup when the infrastructure is already in place to virtualize ? I guess you have never seen POS software running on citrix on a thin client ?
Agreed its 3 \ % of all POS systems but the fact is it works for them !
A major net outage screws them , but with multiple redundant conections they do n't really have problems outside of failed hardware etc..Not that I want some huge corporation to be in control of my data , or even necessarily see it if its important to me .
If I was doing anything such as software engineering , or dealing with large amounts of personal data , the cloud would not be involved in my work in any way .
But like I said , on a casual scale , the technology could be VERY useful one day .
Why make fun of a dreamer ?
You have outlined a couple good points but your inability to see where this technology could be useful shows your bitterness .
Sounds like you are paranoid about security .
Ever had one of your secure , non-cloud servers hacked by some skriptkid with 0day ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not exactly the biggest proponent of the cloud.. But the brunt of your argument says that we shouldn't support cloud technology because it is unstable, or because your/the cloud's connection to the net can go down.
While this is true, does this outweigh the benefits for the cost of mobile based computing?
I'd rather pay 300 for a netbook that does everything I need for work (determine connectivity, set static ips, console into routers, ping/tracert/etc/etc) than 3000 for features I really don't need on a work laptop.
Maybe the clouds a better tech for casual computing instead of business computing, where reliability is slightly less important.
You must understand that we are moving to a time where broadband/intranet connection speed can nearly rival our processing capability (not in the days of 300bps/8mhz anymore, now its 3mbit, 8ghz, ~10000x, vs ~1000x difference) and this must be accounted for in the way we access data.
Ask Ellison who was working on the network desktop idea since the 80s.
It's not like companies don't suffer downtime when their servers crash currently in business.
Ask anyone who has worked at a variety of offices/businesses if they've ever had downtime due to software/hardware crashes in this kind of environment.
And I do retail POS work as well, some of these machines are old as crap (&gt;10 years), completely full of dust most of the time, sometimes running software as old as W98 or older (who'd have thought that could be stable one day!
=), but they've helped produce millions of dollars of revenue.
Look at Macys, some of their furniture/housewares/matresses depts still use old IBM greenscreen terminals connected to a mainframe for most of their inventory/ordering.
Although they are now replacing them with networked desktop chopped down POS boxes, they have served well.You say that your POS software that doesn't run 'over the net' works fine when you lose your WAN connection.. Well maybe you can verify credit cards if your dial backup doesnt fail, but how stable is your networked store?
A complete net outage still kills you.
You can take CC/debit but not verify funds, etc.
You are back to the stone ages anyway without the net, the cashiers would have to call for authorization for every card.
Your argument of relying on the net is null and void because just about everything that makes a lot of money relies on the net in some way whether its browser, packet layer, etc.
Unless you're doing CAD, graphics, programming, or something.
Many applications today are built to be non-location specific, i.e run from anywhere with a net connection, multiple optimization and compatibility with any hardware.
Where back in the 70s many programs would run on one type of hardware only..  A lot of software are even using P2P to push updates.
I know, that's not cloud technology, just the way the business computing model has evolved.
Why duplicate a whole server hardware setup when the infrastructure is already in place to virtualize?I guess you have never seen POS software running on citrix on a thin client?
Agreed its 3\% of all POS systems but the fact is it works for them!
A major net outage screws them, but with multiple redundant conections they don't really have problems outside of failed hardware etc..Not that I want some huge corporation to be in control of my data, or even necessarily see it if its important to me.
If I was doing anything such as software engineering, or dealing with large amounts of personal data, the cloud would not be involved in my work in any way.
But like I said, on a casual scale, the technology could be VERY useful one day.
Why make fun of a dreamer?
You have outlined a couple good points but your inability to see where this technology could be useful shows your bitterness.
Sounds like you are paranoid about security.
Ever had one of your secure, non-cloud servers hacked by some skriptkid with 0day?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30805402</id>
	<title>I love Slashdot so much</title>
	<author>The End Of Days</author>
	<datestamp>1263846480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>These are my very favorite kind of articles, because the comments are always gold.  It's so much fun to read the prognostications of people who spend energy to stay as far away from the mainstream as possible declaring that because a given product doesn't meet their every esoteric use, it has no legitimate purpose.</p><p>Anyone who labors under the delusion that nerds are smart just needs to spend some time on this site.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>These are my very favorite kind of articles , because the comments are always gold .
It 's so much fun to read the prognostications of people who spend energy to stay as far away from the mainstream as possible declaring that because a given product does n't meet their every esoteric use , it has no legitimate purpose.Anyone who labors under the delusion that nerds are smart just needs to spend some time on this site .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>These are my very favorite kind of articles, because the comments are always gold.
It's so much fun to read the prognostications of people who spend energy to stay as far away from the mainstream as possible declaring that because a given product doesn't meet their every esoteric use, it has no legitimate purpose.Anyone who labors under the delusion that nerds are smart just needs to spend some time on this site.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30803576</id>
	<title>Re:Arrr!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263740940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>At this stage (nconsidering it's a one-man show) you still need to roll your own:

<a href="http://www.downloadsquad.com/2009/12/04/how-to-convert-hexxehs-chrome-os-build-image-to-a-virtualbox-v/" title="downloadsquad.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.downloadsquad.com/2009/12/04/how-to-convert-hexxehs-chrome-os-build-image-to-a-virtualbox-v/</a> [downloadsquad.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>At this stage ( nconsidering it 's a one-man show ) you still need to roll your own : http : //www.downloadsquad.com/2009/12/04/how-to-convert-hexxehs-chrome-os-build-image-to-a-virtualbox-v/ [ downloadsquad.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At this stage (nconsidering it's a one-man show) you still need to roll your own:

http://www.downloadsquad.com/2009/12/04/how-to-convert-hexxehs-chrome-os-build-image-to-a-virtualbox-v/ [downloadsquad.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30803906</id>
	<title>Re:And the point of this is ... ???</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263744000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Really, what is worth doing on a PC now that -doesn't- require a network connection. If I lose my ISP connection for a day I tend to stare at my machine in futility. Let's see how I use it on a daily basis:

Check Slashdot
Check BBC News
Check my mail (gmail)
Play Age of Conan
Hop on vent and chat
Download something to watch or cruise Youtube
Check out movie previews at Apple.com
Update my software / drivers (more weekly than daily)


All of those are network enabled, most are provided by a browser. I wouldn't want to play AoC using a Flash game in browser because I think the 20 GB download is a little too much every time I want to play (though it could cache<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:p)

Your 'box' is really just storage, processing, video and sound. The network is the rest. Without the net most people's boxes are useless - or good as caches / storage at best.

There is one activity my box is good for without the network - writing short stories, which I very occasionally do. Even then, when it comes time to share the story I'm going to need that net back up.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Really , what is worth doing on a PC now that -does n't- require a network connection .
If I lose my ISP connection for a day I tend to stare at my machine in futility .
Let 's see how I use it on a daily basis : Check Slashdot Check BBC News Check my mail ( gmail ) Play Age of Conan Hop on vent and chat Download something to watch or cruise Youtube Check out movie previews at Apple.com Update my software / drivers ( more weekly than daily ) All of those are network enabled , most are provided by a browser .
I would n't want to play AoC using a Flash game in browser because I think the 20 GB download is a little too much every time I want to play ( though it could cache : p ) Your 'box ' is really just storage , processing , video and sound .
The network is the rest .
Without the net most people 's boxes are useless - or good as caches / storage at best .
There is one activity my box is good for without the network - writing short stories , which I very occasionally do .
Even then , when it comes time to share the story I 'm going to need that net back up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Really, what is worth doing on a PC now that -doesn't- require a network connection.
If I lose my ISP connection for a day I tend to stare at my machine in futility.
Let's see how I use it on a daily basis:

Check Slashdot
Check BBC News
Check my mail (gmail)
Play Age of Conan
Hop on vent and chat
Download something to watch or cruise Youtube
Check out movie previews at Apple.com
Update my software / drivers (more weekly than daily)


All of those are network enabled, most are provided by a browser.
I wouldn't want to play AoC using a Flash game in browser because I think the 20 GB download is a little too much every time I want to play (though it could cache :p)

Your 'box' is really just storage, processing, video and sound.
The network is the rest.
Without the net most people's boxes are useless - or good as caches / storage at best.
There is one activity my box is good for without the network - writing short stories, which I very occasionally do.
Even then, when it comes time to share the story I'm going to need that net back up.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30804070</id>
	<title>Friend, I am about to destroy your arguments.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263745560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Where to begin, where to begin... You are so full of shit and misconception that it's difficult to start tearing you and your pathetic arguments apart.</p><p>Using X tunneled over SSH, I already have access to my main desktop system. I can access it from work, I can access it from my smartphone, I can access it from my netbook. I don't use other public computers, because I can't trust their security. Only a fucking moron would dare use a public computer for anything that requires a login.</p><p>The "Cloud" that you worship is full of shit. I've been working with computers and networks since the early 1970s, and we saw all this "Cloud" crap back when mainframes were king. I know you're probably just a teenager, and don't have any experience with large systems and networks, but there was a reason we moved away from mainframes towards PCs. Mainly, it was because centralization of any sort is a very dangerous thing. And yes, your precious "Cloud" is centralized. Even small failures of centralized infrastructure end up being very costly.</p><p>The moment you lose Internet connectivity, and it will happen, you're absolutely fucked. You can't access your files, for instance. If you're using web "apps" then you can't even access the applications! You're beyond fucked at that point. Now your fantastic netbook running Chrome OS is nothing more than an expensive way of displaying a "Cannot connect to server" error message.</p><p>Given the amount of data that various "Cloud" providers are dealing with, it's very doubtful that they have appropriate backup solutions in place. The cost to do it properly would be astronomical, even if you factor in their economies of scale. I trust myself to back up my own data much more than I could ever trust some admins at Amazon or Google or some lesser host.</p><p>So it's 2010, and we can play games from 1996 in our web browser using Flash? That's not an accomplishment, you stupid dumbfuck. But yeah, the potential is really amazing. Just think, in 2025 we'll be able to play games from today! SO MUCH POTENTIAL!</p><p>I do a lot of consulting for large and small clients, and very few use web apps for anything serious. You never see POS systems implemented as web apps, for instance, because they're too unreliable. (Oh, and since I know you've got absolutely no industry experience, "POS" stands for point-of-sale. We're talking about the software you see running on cash registers.)</p><p>If you ever manage to get a job, you should try to see how large companies use web apps. You'll find out that most don't, or if they do, it's for some near-meaningless task. One insurance company I works with does use an ASP.NET app. Do you know what it does? It maintains the roster of their goddamn company baseball league. A small finance company I know of uses a JavaServer Faces-based web app to schedule who is going to get coffee for the office. They wouldn't trust anything serious to a web application. All of their serious applications are desktop applications.</p><p>I'll give you credit for having the balls to try and defend some of the shittiest technology (yes, even worse than Microsoft Windows) to ever come along. I sure hope your post was just an exercise in devil's advocatery. But if you do take yourself seriously, I sincerely hope that you never get into the computing field. You and your stupid ideas will be torn apart in the real world, and unlike the pain I've just delivered to you here, it will hurt you and your pathetic "career" a whole lot more.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Where to begin , where to begin... You are so full of shit and misconception that it 's difficult to start tearing you and your pathetic arguments apart.Using X tunneled over SSH , I already have access to my main desktop system .
I can access it from work , I can access it from my smartphone , I can access it from my netbook .
I do n't use other public computers , because I ca n't trust their security .
Only a fucking moron would dare use a public computer for anything that requires a login.The " Cloud " that you worship is full of shit .
I 've been working with computers and networks since the early 1970s , and we saw all this " Cloud " crap back when mainframes were king .
I know you 're probably just a teenager , and do n't have any experience with large systems and networks , but there was a reason we moved away from mainframes towards PCs .
Mainly , it was because centralization of any sort is a very dangerous thing .
And yes , your precious " Cloud " is centralized .
Even small failures of centralized infrastructure end up being very costly.The moment you lose Internet connectivity , and it will happen , you 're absolutely fucked .
You ca n't access your files , for instance .
If you 're using web " apps " then you ca n't even access the applications !
You 're beyond fucked at that point .
Now your fantastic netbook running Chrome OS is nothing more than an expensive way of displaying a " Can not connect to server " error message.Given the amount of data that various " Cloud " providers are dealing with , it 's very doubtful that they have appropriate backup solutions in place .
The cost to do it properly would be astronomical , even if you factor in their economies of scale .
I trust myself to back up my own data much more than I could ever trust some admins at Amazon or Google or some lesser host.So it 's 2010 , and we can play games from 1996 in our web browser using Flash ?
That 's not an accomplishment , you stupid dumbfuck .
But yeah , the potential is really amazing .
Just think , in 2025 we 'll be able to play games from today !
SO MUCH POTENTIAL ! I do a lot of consulting for large and small clients , and very few use web apps for anything serious .
You never see POS systems implemented as web apps , for instance , because they 're too unreliable .
( Oh , and since I know you 've got absolutely no industry experience , " POS " stands for point-of-sale .
We 're talking about the software you see running on cash registers .
) If you ever manage to get a job , you should try to see how large companies use web apps .
You 'll find out that most do n't , or if they do , it 's for some near-meaningless task .
One insurance company I works with does use an ASP.NET app .
Do you know what it does ?
It maintains the roster of their goddamn company baseball league .
A small finance company I know of uses a JavaServer Faces-based web app to schedule who is going to get coffee for the office .
They would n't trust anything serious to a web application .
All of their serious applications are desktop applications.I 'll give you credit for having the balls to try and defend some of the shittiest technology ( yes , even worse than Microsoft Windows ) to ever come along .
I sure hope your post was just an exercise in devil 's advocatery .
But if you do take yourself seriously , I sincerely hope that you never get into the computing field .
You and your stupid ideas will be torn apart in the real world , and unlike the pain I 've just delivered to you here , it will hurt you and your pathetic " career " a whole lot more .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Where to begin, where to begin... You are so full of shit and misconception that it's difficult to start tearing you and your pathetic arguments apart.Using X tunneled over SSH, I already have access to my main desktop system.
I can access it from work, I can access it from my smartphone, I can access it from my netbook.
I don't use other public computers, because I can't trust their security.
Only a fucking moron would dare use a public computer for anything that requires a login.The "Cloud" that you worship is full of shit.
I've been working with computers and networks since the early 1970s, and we saw all this "Cloud" crap back when mainframes were king.
I know you're probably just a teenager, and don't have any experience with large systems and networks, but there was a reason we moved away from mainframes towards PCs.
Mainly, it was because centralization of any sort is a very dangerous thing.
And yes, your precious "Cloud" is centralized.
Even small failures of centralized infrastructure end up being very costly.The moment you lose Internet connectivity, and it will happen, you're absolutely fucked.
You can't access your files, for instance.
If you're using web "apps" then you can't even access the applications!
You're beyond fucked at that point.
Now your fantastic netbook running Chrome OS is nothing more than an expensive way of displaying a "Cannot connect to server" error message.Given the amount of data that various "Cloud" providers are dealing with, it's very doubtful that they have appropriate backup solutions in place.
The cost to do it properly would be astronomical, even if you factor in their economies of scale.
I trust myself to back up my own data much more than I could ever trust some admins at Amazon or Google or some lesser host.So it's 2010, and we can play games from 1996 in our web browser using Flash?
That's not an accomplishment, you stupid dumbfuck.
But yeah, the potential is really amazing.
Just think, in 2025 we'll be able to play games from today!
SO MUCH POTENTIAL!I do a lot of consulting for large and small clients, and very few use web apps for anything serious.
You never see POS systems implemented as web apps, for instance, because they're too unreliable.
(Oh, and since I know you've got absolutely no industry experience, "POS" stands for point-of-sale.
We're talking about the software you see running on cash registers.
)If you ever manage to get a job, you should try to see how large companies use web apps.
You'll find out that most don't, or if they do, it's for some near-meaningless task.
One insurance company I works with does use an ASP.NET app.
Do you know what it does?
It maintains the roster of their goddamn company baseball league.
A small finance company I know of uses a JavaServer Faces-based web app to schedule who is going to get coffee for the office.
They wouldn't trust anything serious to a web application.
All of their serious applications are desktop applications.I'll give you credit for having the balls to try and defend some of the shittiest technology (yes, even worse than Microsoft Windows) to ever come along.
I sure hope your post was just an exercise in devil's advocatery.
But if you do take yourself seriously, I sincerely hope that you never get into the computing field.
You and your stupid ideas will be torn apart in the real world, and unlike the pain I've just delivered to you here, it will hurt you and your pathetic "career" a whole lot more.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30804124</id>
	<title>Re:And the point of this is ... ???</title>
	<author>GrubLord</author>
	<datestamp>1263746100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Some of us actually do work on our machines... without ripping it off from the Internet.</p><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr>... you still play Age of Conan?!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Some of us actually do work on our machines... without ripping it off from the Internet .
... you still play Age of Conan ?
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Some of us actually do work on our machines... without ripping it off from the Internet.
... you still play Age of Conan?
!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30804668</id>
	<title>Re:And the point of this is ... ???</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263750960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Playing games</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Playing games</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Playing games</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30803082</id>
	<title>Re:What is this?</title>
	<author>micheas</author>
	<datestamp>1263736560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They are different in that google only releases the source.
</p><p>
If you have ever installed linux from scratch or some similar OS,  you can install chrome. As far as I understand, google has no plans to release chrome OS binaries, They expect anyone installing Chrome OS to be able to compile code from source.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They are different in that google only releases the source .
If you have ever installed linux from scratch or some similar OS , you can install chrome .
As far as I understand , google has no plans to release chrome OS binaries , They expect anyone installing Chrome OS to be able to compile code from source .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They are different in that google only releases the source.
If you have ever installed linux from scratch or some similar OS,  you can install chrome.
As far as I understand, google has no plans to release chrome OS binaries, They expect anyone installing Chrome OS to be able to compile code from source.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30802982</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30803168</id>
	<title>Arrr!</title>
	<author>joh</author>
	<datestamp>1263737280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This guy should distribute this as a VirtualBox machine or so. Do I really want to *boot* into something that is just a browser without an OS and without apps? Gimme something to use and to play with on the side and I may have fun with it. Pulling my teeth would be more fun than booting into Chrome on a real machine, sorry.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This guy should distribute this as a VirtualBox machine or so .
Do I really want to * boot * into something that is just a browser without an OS and without apps ?
Gim me something to use and to play with on the side and I may have fun with it .
Pulling my teeth would be more fun than booting into Chrome on a real machine , sorry .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This guy should distribute this as a VirtualBox machine or so.
Do I really want to *boot* into something that is just a browser without an OS and without apps?
Gimme something to use and to play with on the side and I may have fun with it.
Pulling my teeth would be more fun than booting into Chrome on a real machine, sorry.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30807108</id>
	<title>Re:And the point of this is ... ???</title>
	<author>g253</author>
	<datestamp>1263824760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Rubbish. If you connection is down you can't download your new mails or get the latest friend invites from facebook, same as with any other os / app.<br> <br>

But most (all?) google apps are now usable offline, same as any desktop app. So what you're saying is basically "when I have no internet I can't access internet, and it's google's fault"</htmltext>
<tokenext>Rubbish .
If you connection is down you ca n't download your new mails or get the latest friend invites from facebook , same as with any other os / app .
But most ( all ?
) google apps are now usable offline , same as any desktop app .
So what you 're saying is basically " when I have no internet I ca n't access internet , and it 's google 's fault "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Rubbish.
If you connection is down you can't download your new mails or get the latest friend invites from facebook, same as with any other os / app.
But most (all?
) google apps are now usable offline, same as any desktop app.
So what you're saying is basically "when I have no internet I can't access internet, and it's google's fault"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30803750</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30805434</id>
	<title>Re:Friend, I am about to destroy your arguments.</title>
	<author>MortenMW</author>
	<datestamp>1263847020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>You should get a lawn and tell people to get off it...</htmltext>
<tokenext>You should get a lawn and tell people to get off it.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You should get a lawn and tell people to get off it...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30804070</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30803960</id>
	<title>EXpp!!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263744420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><A HREF="http://goat.cx/" title="goat.cx" rel="nofollow">othe8 mem3ers in</a> [goat.cx]</htmltext>
<tokenext>othe8 mem3ers in [ goat.cx ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>othe8 mem3ers in [goat.cx]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30802886</id>
	<title>May the competition begin.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263734820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wake up MS. There another new kid on the block as rich as you.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wake up MS. There another new kid on the block as rich as you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wake up MS. There another new kid on the block as rich as you.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30805546</id>
	<title>Re:And the point of this is ... ???</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263805680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, obviously.  So Google can maximize the amount of ads they pump into your face at all times, no matter what application you're using.  They want an environment where you can't get away from their targeted advertising.  They don't want you to be looking at something that might not have its ads in it if you choose to use their platform.  As for why a person would use it, well, because it's Google, it's familiar, it works the way they're used to using something.  Why did people choose Windows 95 over OS/2?  Why Windows over Mac in those days?  VHS over Beta?  It's because it's something people are comfortable with.  Honestly, Google figured out how to do ads in such a way that they could make loads of revenue AND make ads that were less visually annoying than most other advertising agencies were making (let's be honest, the core of Google is an ad-agency that uses a "free" platform to deliver ads).  That's why some people would be willing to lock themselves in, I'd presume.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , obviously .
So Google can maximize the amount of ads they pump into your face at all times , no matter what application you 're using .
They want an environment where you ca n't get away from their targeted advertising .
They do n't want you to be looking at something that might not have its ads in it if you choose to use their platform .
As for why a person would use it , well , because it 's Google , it 's familiar , it works the way they 're used to using something .
Why did people choose Windows 95 over OS/2 ?
Why Windows over Mac in those days ?
VHS over Beta ?
It 's because it 's something people are comfortable with .
Honestly , Google figured out how to do ads in such a way that they could make loads of revenue AND make ads that were less visually annoying than most other advertising agencies were making ( let 's be honest , the core of Google is an ad-agency that uses a " free " platform to deliver ads ) .
That 's why some people would be willing to lock themselves in , I 'd presume .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, obviously.
So Google can maximize the amount of ads they pump into your face at all times, no matter what application you're using.
They want an environment where you can't get away from their targeted advertising.
They don't want you to be looking at something that might not have its ads in it if you choose to use their platform.
As for why a person would use it, well, because it's Google, it's familiar, it works the way they're used to using something.
Why did people choose Windows 95 over OS/2?
Why Windows over Mac in those days?
VHS over Beta?
It's because it's something people are comfortable with.
Honestly, Google figured out how to do ads in such a way that they could make loads of revenue AND make ads that were less visually annoying than most other advertising agencies were making (let's be honest, the core of Google is an ad-agency that uses a "free" platform to deliver ads).
That's why some people would be willing to lock themselves in, I'd presume.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30803750</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30802944</id>
	<title>redundant</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263735300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>redundant</htmltext>
<tokenext>redundant</tokentext>
<sentencetext>redundant</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30802866</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30803750</id>
	<title>And the point of this is ... ???</title>
	<author>MadMaverick9</author>
	<datestamp>1263742440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
If my ADSL connection is down for thirty minutes, I can't do anything with the piece of hardware and software sitting on my desk. Since all the apps are on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... the Internet.
</p><p>
So<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... WHY would anybody use this???
</p><p>
Anybody remember GMail's outtages<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... ???
</p><p>
Looks like vendor lock-in to me<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... all depends on Google. If Google ever goes bye-bye, all your data goes bye-bye too.
</p><p>
Can anybody explain to me , please<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... Why???</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If my ADSL connection is down for thirty minutes , I ca n't do anything with the piece of hardware and software sitting on my desk .
Since all the apps are on ... the Internet .
So ... WHY would anybody use this ? ? ?
Anybody remember GMail 's outtages .. .
? ? ? Looks like vendor lock-in to me ... all depends on Google .
If Google ever goes bye-bye , all your data goes bye-bye too .
Can anybody explain to me , please .. .
Why ? ? ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
If my ADSL connection is down for thirty minutes, I can't do anything with the piece of hardware and software sitting on my desk.
Since all the apps are on ... the Internet.
So ... WHY would anybody use this???
Anybody remember GMail's outtages ...
???

Looks like vendor lock-in to me ... all depends on Google.
If Google ever goes bye-bye, all your data goes bye-bye too.
Can anybody explain to me , please ...
Why???</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30803080</id>
	<title>Maybe he'll make Chrome OS useful!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263736560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As it stands, Chrome OS is pretty useless for most people. From what we've seen so far, Chromium OS is so locked-down and artificially limited that it's just not worth using. You're better off just using Chrome on Ubuntu. At least then you're not stuck using just shitty web apps.</p><p>Independent distributions like this are the only way we'll see Chrome OS be made useful, when the distribution creators remove the artificial limitations that Google has introduced.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As it stands , Chrome OS is pretty useless for most people .
From what we 've seen so far , Chromium OS is so locked-down and artificially limited that it 's just not worth using .
You 're better off just using Chrome on Ubuntu .
At least then you 're not stuck using just shitty web apps.Independent distributions like this are the only way we 'll see Chrome OS be made useful , when the distribution creators remove the artificial limitations that Google has introduced .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As it stands, Chrome OS is pretty useless for most people.
From what we've seen so far, Chromium OS is so locked-down and artificially limited that it's just not worth using.
You're better off just using Chrome on Ubuntu.
At least then you're not stuck using just shitty web apps.Independent distributions like this are the only way we'll see Chrome OS be made useful, when the distribution creators remove the artificial limitations that Google has introduced.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30802952</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30805330</id>
	<title>Re:Friend, I am about to destroy your arguments.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263845520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You somehow confused the fact that you're old with the idea that you know anything.  Good thing you're old, though. You'll die before you have to adapt to changes you aren't willing to believe are coming.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You somehow confused the fact that you 're old with the idea that you know anything .
Good thing you 're old , though .
You 'll die before you have to adapt to changes you are n't willing to believe are coming .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You somehow confused the fact that you're old with the idea that you know anything.
Good thing you're old, though.
You'll die before you have to adapt to changes you aren't willing to believe are coming.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30804070</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30802964</id>
	<title>hmmm...</title>
	<author>novar21</author>
	<datestamp>1263735660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Are they vying for more beta testers?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Are they vying for more beta testers ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are they vying for more beta testers?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30803848</id>
	<title>Re:SlowNewsDay?</title>
	<author>Pharmboy</author>
	<datestamp>1263743400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Reminds me of that Finnish college kid who was too cheap to buy a copy of minix and tried to make his own operating system back in 1991.  Whatever happened to him?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Reminds me of that Finnish college kid who was too cheap to buy a copy of minix and tried to make his own operating system back in 1991 .
Whatever happened to him ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Reminds me of that Finnish college kid who was too cheap to buy a copy of minix and tried to make his own operating system back in 1991.
Whatever happened to him?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30802952</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30803892</id>
	<title>Re:And the point of this is ... ???</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263743820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This software runs on $300 machines. These machines are meant as supplements for people who can afford them, and starter models for those who can't. If you can't afford them as a luxury, then I would assume there is probably a 95\% chance your livelihood is not critically dependent on your laptop. If you do use it as a luxury, I think you can live for a short time without being on the smaller of your two computers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This software runs on $ 300 machines .
These machines are meant as supplements for people who can afford them , and starter models for those who ca n't .
If you ca n't afford them as a luxury , then I would assume there is probably a 95 \ % chance your livelihood is not critically dependent on your laptop .
If you do use it as a luxury , I think you can live for a short time without being on the smaller of your two computers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This software runs on $300 machines.
These machines are meant as supplements for people who can afford them, and starter models for those who can't.
If you can't afford them as a luxury, then I would assume there is probably a 95\% chance your livelihood is not critically dependent on your laptop.
If you do use it as a luxury, I think you can live for a short time without being on the smaller of your two computers.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30803750</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30805196</id>
	<title>Re:OK. I need a Karma whore.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263757200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>ChromeOS Zero - what's so special about it?</p></div><p>"We didn't think anyone would notice"<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... Larry Page</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>ChromeOS Zero - what 's so special about it ?
" We did n't think anyone would notice " ... Larry Page</tokentext>
<sentencetext>ChromeOS Zero - what's so special about it?
"We didn't think anyone would notice" ... Larry Page
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30802926</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30803700</id>
	<title>Re:OK. I need a Karma whore.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263742080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I don't get who this guy is. He was <i>the source</i> for ChromeOS builds?!? Google dropped it?! How does this guy handle Google's builds?</p><p>I don't get it.</p><p>ChromeOS Zero - what's so special about it?</p></div><p>These builds take the ChromiumOS source provided by Google, and just improve upon it and deviate slightly from the direction Google is going in. Google is tailoring to a very limited set of devices, but really, there are a lot of people on a very wide range of hardware who would like to use ChromiumOS, and so I'm trying to make it more accessible/usable. I'm also providing updates automatically with the launch of the updater beta, to remove the need for frequent reimages to stay up to date.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't get who this guy is .
He was the source for ChromeOS builds ? ! ?
Google dropped it ? !
How does this guy handle Google 's builds ? I do n't get it.ChromeOS Zero - what 's so special about it ? These builds take the ChromiumOS source provided by Google , and just improve upon it and deviate slightly from the direction Google is going in .
Google is tailoring to a very limited set of devices , but really , there are a lot of people on a very wide range of hardware who would like to use ChromiumOS , and so I 'm trying to make it more accessible/usable .
I 'm also providing updates automatically with the launch of the updater beta , to remove the need for frequent reimages to stay up to date .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't get who this guy is.
He was the source for ChromeOS builds?!?
Google dropped it?!
How does this guy handle Google's builds?I don't get it.ChromeOS Zero - what's so special about it?These builds take the ChromiumOS source provided by Google, and just improve upon it and deviate slightly from the direction Google is going in.
Google is tailoring to a very limited set of devices, but really, there are a lot of people on a very wide range of hardware who would like to use ChromiumOS, and so I'm trying to make it more accessible/usable.
I'm also providing updates automatically with the launch of the updater beta, to remove the need for frequent reimages to stay up to date.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30802926</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30803424</id>
	<title>Re:Arrr!</title>
	<author>darrylo</author>
	<datestamp>1263739560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Uhh, a <a href="http://lmgtfy.com/?q=\%22chromium+os+zero\%22+virtualbox" title="lmgtfy.com">quick google search</a> [lmgtfy.com] shows these links:

</p><p> <a href="http://www.downloadsquad.com/2009/12/04/how-to-convert-hexxehs-chrome-os-build-image-to-a-virtualbox-v/" title="downloadsquad.com">http://www.downloadsquad.com/2009/12/04/how-to-convert-hexxehs-chrome-os-build-image-to-a-virtualbox-v/</a> [downloadsquad.com]

</p><p> <a href="http://www.unixmen.com/news-today/706-chromium-os-zero-released-" title="unixmen.com">http://www.unixmen.com/news-today/706-chromium-os-zero-released-</a> [unixmen.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Uhh , a quick google search [ lmgtfy.com ] shows these links : http : //www.downloadsquad.com/2009/12/04/how-to-convert-hexxehs-chrome-os-build-image-to-a-virtualbox-v/ [ downloadsquad.com ] http : //www.unixmen.com/news-today/706-chromium-os-zero-released- [ unixmen.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Uhh, a quick google search [lmgtfy.com] shows these links:

 http://www.downloadsquad.com/2009/12/04/how-to-convert-hexxehs-chrome-os-build-image-to-a-virtualbox-v/ [downloadsquad.com]

 http://www.unixmen.com/news-today/706-chromium-os-zero-released- [unixmen.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30803168</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30804444</id>
	<title>Re:And the point of this is ... ???</title>
	<author>PCM2</author>
	<datestamp>1263748800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I remember GMail outages. But if your ADSL is down, what is your local email client going to do for you that GMail wouldn't?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I remember GMail outages .
But if your ADSL is down , what is your local email client going to do for you that GMail would n't ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I remember GMail outages.
But if your ADSL is down, what is your local email client going to do for you that GMail wouldn't?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30803750</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30810072</id>
	<title>Re:Friend, I am about to destroy your arguments.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263840540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Look, if you're trying to say the industry isn't full of webapps (of all quality levels from ok to horrifyingly bad), you haven't gotten out much.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Look , if you 're trying to say the industry is n't full of webapps ( of all quality levels from ok to horrifyingly bad ) , you have n't gotten out much .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Look, if you're trying to say the industry isn't full of webapps (of all quality levels from ok to horrifyingly bad), you haven't gotten out much.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30804070</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30816754</id>
	<title>Chromium OS Zero screenshots  &amp; .vmdk Download</title>
	<author>donadony</author>
	<datestamp>1263931860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>There are screenshots of chromium OS zero and<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.vmdk image to download in this link :  <a href="http://www.unixmen.com/news-today/728-download-chromium-os-vmdk-virtual-machine-image" title="unixmen.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.unixmen.com/news-today/728-download-chromium-os-vmdk-virtual-machine-image</a> [unixmen.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>There are screenshots of chromium OS zero and .vmdk image to download in this link : http : //www.unixmen.com/news-today/728-download-chromium-os-vmdk-virtual-machine-image [ unixmen.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are screenshots of chromium OS zero and .vmdk image to download in this link :  http://www.unixmen.com/news-today/728-download-chromium-os-vmdk-virtual-machine-image [unixmen.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30804120</id>
	<title>Re:And the point of this is ... ???</title>
	<author>nine-times</author>
	<datestamp>1263746040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Because Google has been working on Google Gears and HTML offline functionality?  If that stuff is working, you should be able to run Gmail, Google Docs, and other applications without a connection.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because Google has been working on Google Gears and HTML offline functionality ?
If that stuff is working , you should be able to run Gmail , Google Docs , and other applications without a connection .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because Google has been working on Google Gears and HTML offline functionality?
If that stuff is working, you should be able to run Gmail, Google Docs, and other applications without a connection.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30803750</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30804388</id>
	<title>Re:Arrr!</title>
	<author>mysidia</author>
	<datestamp>1263748320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
Then create your own virtual machine, and boot it into ChromeOS Zero using the binary (instead of the host), you lazy slashdot reader...
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Then create your own virtual machine , and boot it into ChromeOS Zero using the binary ( instead of the host ) , you lazy slashdot reader.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Then create your own virtual machine, and boot it into ChromeOS Zero using the binary (instead of the host), you lazy slashdot reader...
</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30803168</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30804700</id>
	<title>BRING BACK WANG TERMINALS!!!</title>
	<author>oztiks</author>
	<datestamp>1263751320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And install them with ChromeOS!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And install them with ChromeOS !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And install them with ChromeOS!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30802886</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30804106</id>
	<title>Re:Maybe he'll make Chrome OS useful!</title>
	<author>GrubLord</author>
	<datestamp>1263745920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Some dudes run it on VNC from their iPhones...</p><p><a href="http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/04/25/world-of-warcraft-on-the-iphone-heralds-end-of-civilization-as-we-know-it/" title="crunchgear.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/04/25/world-of-warcraft-on-the-iphone-heralds-end-of-civilization-as-we-know-it/</a> [crunchgear.com]</p><p>Is that close enough?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Some dudes run it on VNC from their iPhones...http : //www.crunchgear.com/2009/04/25/world-of-warcraft-on-the-iphone-heralds-end-of-civilization-as-we-know-it/ [ crunchgear.com ] Is that close enough ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Some dudes run it on VNC from their iPhones...http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/04/25/world-of-warcraft-on-the-iphone-heralds-end-of-civilization-as-we-know-it/ [crunchgear.com]Is that close enough?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30803830</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30803154</id>
	<title>Re:ChromeOS Zero - what's so special about it?</title>
	<author>LostCluster</author>
	<datestamp>1263737160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>No functions, but they use value-returning-subroutine syrup in its place.</htmltext>
<tokenext>No functions , but they use value-returning-subroutine syrup in its place .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No functions, but they use value-returning-subroutine syrup in its place.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30803036</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30804236</id>
	<title>Re:Maybe he'll make Chrome OS useful!</title>
	<author>node 3</author>
	<datestamp>1263747000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Those "artificial" limitations are the whole *point* of ChromeOS. If you remove them, what do you have except yet another Linux distro?</p><p>The point here is that if you want a slimmed down, web-centric/web-only OS, there's no better choice than ChromeOS. If you want a Google Linux, just pick a distro and install Chrome.</p><p>It sounds like this won't appeal to you, fair enough. But it's a mistake to think that it needs fixing, and further, that that fixing is to simply make it into a clone of your OS of choice.</p><p>Personally, I think ChromeOS would make for a great netbook OS. The origin of the term "netbook" goes a long way in explaining why.</p><p>ChromeOS is a web dumb terminal. To bypass the built-in restrictions (they aren't "artificial", they are a integral to the design) would be just as misguided as turning an old-fashioned dumb terminal into a standalone workstation. There are already better solutions for that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Those " artificial " limitations are the whole * point * of ChromeOS .
If you remove them , what do you have except yet another Linux distro ? The point here is that if you want a slimmed down , web-centric/web-only OS , there 's no better choice than ChromeOS .
If you want a Google Linux , just pick a distro and install Chrome.It sounds like this wo n't appeal to you , fair enough .
But it 's a mistake to think that it needs fixing , and further , that that fixing is to simply make it into a clone of your OS of choice.Personally , I think ChromeOS would make for a great netbook OS .
The origin of the term " netbook " goes a long way in explaining why.ChromeOS is a web dumb terminal .
To bypass the built-in restrictions ( they are n't " artificial " , they are a integral to the design ) would be just as misguided as turning an old-fashioned dumb terminal into a standalone workstation .
There are already better solutions for that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Those "artificial" limitations are the whole *point* of ChromeOS.
If you remove them, what do you have except yet another Linux distro?The point here is that if you want a slimmed down, web-centric/web-only OS, there's no better choice than ChromeOS.
If you want a Google Linux, just pick a distro and install Chrome.It sounds like this won't appeal to you, fair enough.
But it's a mistake to think that it needs fixing, and further, that that fixing is to simply make it into a clone of your OS of choice.Personally, I think ChromeOS would make for a great netbook OS.
The origin of the term "netbook" goes a long way in explaining why.ChromeOS is a web dumb terminal.
To bypass the built-in restrictions (they aren't "artificial", they are a integral to the design) would be just as misguided as turning an old-fashioned dumb terminal into a standalone workstation.
There are already better solutions for that.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30803080</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30803948</id>
	<title>Too big to fail?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263744300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is google going to be the next "Too Big to Fail" of the private enterprises?  I see the US government having to bail out google in the future because of insolvency (or whatever legal mumbo-jumbo you use there).  Will that just get data reinstated for US citizens?  Google don't store data on servers in my country (not that they should have to), what will happen to us?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is google going to be the next " Too Big to Fail " of the private enterprises ?
I see the US government having to bail out google in the future because of insolvency ( or whatever legal mumbo-jumbo you use there ) .
Will that just get data reinstated for US citizens ?
Google do n't store data on servers in my country ( not that they should have to ) , what will happen to us ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is google going to be the next "Too Big to Fail" of the private enterprises?
I see the US government having to bail out google in the future because of insolvency (or whatever legal mumbo-jumbo you use there).
Will that just get data reinstated for US citizens?
Google don't store data on servers in my country (not that they should have to), what will happen to us?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30803750</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30804052</id>
	<title>Re:OK. I need a Karma whore.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263745440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In simple terms - he does something - anything - related to Google which automatically makes this front page material.  All the fanbois line up with 'omgz this is the best thing ever because it is google related - die Apple and M$ DIE!!!1!'.  Life gets rather dull in their parents basement when the only human contact is Star Trek dress up parties.  This guy gives them an object of sexual desire they can fantasise over.</p><p>Quickly - to the b0x3n - another google article will be arriving shortly!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In simple terms - he does something - anything - related to Google which automatically makes this front page material .
All the fanbois line up with 'omgz this is the best thing ever because it is google related - die Apple and M $ DIE ! ! ! 1 ! ' .
Life gets rather dull in their parents basement when the only human contact is Star Trek dress up parties .
This guy gives them an object of sexual desire they can fantasise over.Quickly - to the b0x3n - another google article will be arriving shortly !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In simple terms - he does something - anything - related to Google which automatically makes this front page material.
All the fanbois line up with 'omgz this is the best thing ever because it is google related - die Apple and M$ DIE!!!1!'.
Life gets rather dull in their parents basement when the only human contact is Star Trek dress up parties.
This guy gives them an object of sexual desire they can fantasise over.Quickly - to the b0x3n - another google article will be arriving shortly!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30802926</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30803594</id>
	<title>Re:Arrr!</title>
	<author>c\_forq</author>
	<datestamp>1263741060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Can't you use just boot the image in Virtualbox?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ca n't you use just boot the image in Virtualbox ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can't you use just boot the image in Virtualbox?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30803168</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30804456</id>
	<title>Re:Interesting</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263748920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Funny</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Funny</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Funny</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30802866</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30807706</id>
	<title>Re:May the competition begin.</title>
	<author>psnyder</author>
	<datestamp>1263828960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Wake up MS. There another new kid on the block as rich as you.</p></div><p>Google is not nearly as rich as MS.<br> <br>

<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft" title="wikipedia.org">Microsoft</a> [wikipedia.org]
</p><ul> <li>Revenue 	 US$ 58.437 billion (2009)</li><li>Operating income 	 US$ 20.363 billion (2009)</li>
<li>Net income 	 US$ 14.569 billion (2009)</li>
<li>Total assets 	 US$ 77.888 billion (2009)</li>
<li>Total equity 	 US$ 39.558 billion (2009)</li>
<li>Employees 	93,000 in over 100 countries (2009)</li>
</ul><p>

<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google" title="wikipedia.org">Google</a> [wikipedia.org]
</p><ul>
<li>Revenue 	 $ 21.796 billion (2008)</li>
<li>Operating income 	 $ 6.632 billion (2008)</li>
<li>Net income 	 $ 4.227 billion (2008)</li>
<li>Total assets 	 $ 31.768 billion (2008)</li>
<li>Total equity 	 $ 28.239 billion (2008)</li>
<li>Employees 	19,665 &ndash; September 30, 2009</li>
</ul></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wake up MS. There another new kid on the block as rich as you.Google is not nearly as rich as MS . Microsoft [ wikipedia.org ] Revenue US $ 58.437 billion ( 2009 ) Operating income US $ 20.363 billion ( 2009 ) Net income US $ 14.569 billion ( 2009 ) Total assets US $ 77.888 billion ( 2009 ) Total equity US $ 39.558 billion ( 2009 ) Employees 93,000 in over 100 countries ( 2009 ) Google [ wikipedia.org ] Revenue $ 21.796 billion ( 2008 ) Operating income $ 6.632 billion ( 2008 ) Net income $ 4.227 billion ( 2008 ) Total assets $ 31.768 billion ( 2008 ) Total equity $ 28.239 billion ( 2008 ) Employees 19,665    September 30 , 2009</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wake up MS. There another new kid on the block as rich as you.Google is not nearly as rich as MS. 

Microsoft [wikipedia.org]
 Revenue 	 US$ 58.437 billion (2009)Operating income 	 US$ 20.363 billion (2009)
Net income 	 US$ 14.569 billion (2009)
Total assets 	 US$ 77.888 billion (2009)
Total equity 	 US$ 39.558 billion (2009)
Employees 	93,000 in over 100 countries (2009)


Google [wikipedia.org]

Revenue 	 $ 21.796 billion (2008)
Operating income 	 $ 6.632 billion (2008)
Net income 	 $ 4.227 billion (2008)
Total assets 	 $ 31.768 billion (2008)
Total equity 	 $ 28.239 billion (2008)
Employees 	19,665 – September 30, 2009

	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30802886</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30803524</id>
	<title>Flamebait</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263740520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>flamebait</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>flamebait</tokentext>
<sentencetext>flamebait</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30802866</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30802984</id>
	<title>has been GIVEN the source</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263735840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>awesome editors editing skillz</htmltext>
<tokenext>awesome editors editing skillz</tokentext>
<sentencetext>awesome editors editing skillz</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30803126</id>
	<title>Re:ChromeOS ?</title>
	<author>novar21</author>
	<datestamp>1263736920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>OK, correct is spelled with two r's.</htmltext>
<tokenext>OK , correct is spelled with two r 's .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OK, correct is spelled with two r's.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30803078</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30803418</id>
	<title>Re:Maybe he'll make Chrome OS useful!</title>
	<author>FlyingBishop</author>
	<datestamp>1263739500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You remove the artificial limitations that Google has introduced, and you just have Linux. The point is just to have a thin web client, with no excessive overhead. It's something I've often pined for when waiting for a full-fledged Mac or Windows Desktop to log me in in an Internet lab. I anticipate that Chrome devices will be instant-on, and completely blow any sort of standard "unlimited" desktop out of the water for browsing purposes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You remove the artificial limitations that Google has introduced , and you just have Linux .
The point is just to have a thin web client , with no excessive overhead .
It 's something I 've often pined for when waiting for a full-fledged Mac or Windows Desktop to log me in in an Internet lab .
I anticipate that Chrome devices will be instant-on , and completely blow any sort of standard " unlimited " desktop out of the water for browsing purposes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You remove the artificial limitations that Google has introduced, and you just have Linux.
The point is just to have a thin web client, with no excessive overhead.
It's something I've often pined for when waiting for a full-fledged Mac or Windows Desktop to log me in in an Internet lab.
I anticipate that Chrome devices will be instant-on, and completely blow any sort of standard "unlimited" desktop out of the water for browsing purposes.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30803080</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30803830</id>
	<title>Re:Maybe he'll make Chrome OS useful!</title>
	<author>BlackHawk-666</author>
	<datestamp>1263743280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Is anyone working on a Flash version of World of Warcraft?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is anyone working on a Flash version of World of Warcraft ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is anyone working on a Flash version of World of Warcraft?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30803644</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30804244</id>
	<title>Re:And the point of this is ... ???</title>
	<author>Blakey Rat</author>
	<datestamp>1263747120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you don't like it, just don't buy it...</p><p>That's not an ellipsis, I just wanted to follow the parent's example with punctuation...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you do n't like it , just do n't buy it...That 's not an ellipsis , I just wanted to follow the parent 's example with punctuation.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you don't like it, just don't buy it...That's not an ellipsis, I just wanted to follow the parent's example with punctuation...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30803750</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30810606</id>
	<title>Re:Friend, I am about to destroy your arguments.</title>
	<author>Ant P.</author>
	<datestamp>1263843120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Oh, and since I know you've got absolutely no industry experience, "POS" stands for point-of-sale. We're talking about the software you see running on cash registers.</p></div><p>I <em>have</em> got experience in that field, and the type of software you're talking about invariably <strong>is</strong> a piece of shit.</p><p>Be grateful you've never used it long enough to understand why.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh , and since I know you 've got absolutely no industry experience , " POS " stands for point-of-sale .
We 're talking about the software you see running on cash registers.I have got experience in that field , and the type of software you 're talking about invariably is a piece of shit.Be grateful you 've never used it long enough to understand why .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh, and since I know you've got absolutely no industry experience, "POS" stands for point-of-sale.
We're talking about the software you see running on cash registers.I have got experience in that field, and the type of software you're talking about invariably is a piece of shit.Be grateful you've never used it long enough to understand why.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30804070</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30803942</id>
	<title>Re:Maybe he'll make Chrome OS useful!</title>
	<author>thejynxed</author>
	<datestamp>1263744240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wake me up when Adobe can get 64-bit Flash out of Alpha for Linux/BSD and ported to other platforms.</p><p>Then I'll take another nap while waiting for their programmers to fix their program so it doesn't constantly crash Firefox, Chrome, IE, Opera or any other browser I run it in on a 64-bit OS.</p><p>I can't take a nap waiting on this cloud garbage though. It's already painfully obvious that if you leave it anywhere in the cloud, someone who isn't you is already pilfering it from some province in China or a former Soviet-Block state.</p><p>So, yeah, shitty webapps can suck a fat one.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wake me up when Adobe can get 64-bit Flash out of Alpha for Linux/BSD and ported to other platforms.Then I 'll take another nap while waiting for their programmers to fix their program so it does n't constantly crash Firefox , Chrome , IE , Opera or any other browser I run it in on a 64-bit OS.I ca n't take a nap waiting on this cloud garbage though .
It 's already painfully obvious that if you leave it anywhere in the cloud , someone who is n't you is already pilfering it from some province in China or a former Soviet-Block state.So , yeah , shitty webapps can suck a fat one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wake me up when Adobe can get 64-bit Flash out of Alpha for Linux/BSD and ported to other platforms.Then I'll take another nap while waiting for their programmers to fix their program so it doesn't constantly crash Firefox, Chrome, IE, Opera or any other browser I run it in on a 64-bit OS.I can't take a nap waiting on this cloud garbage though.
It's already painfully obvious that if you leave it anywhere in the cloud, someone who isn't you is already pilfering it from some province in China or a former Soviet-Block state.So, yeah, shitty webapps can suck a fat one.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30803644</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30803988</id>
	<title>Security Holes</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263744720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No offense, H3XX3H, I really enjoy what you do, but since the build itself is closed source, has anyone used a network traffic analyzer on it while it was running to make sure that all outgoing connections were legit? I would be one of the first to be 'up a paddle,' since I have eagerly used H3XX3R's builds, so I'm not completely paranoid. I was just curious if anyone has checked this out? Again, no offense H3XX3H, but I assume most of the people who have used your build don't know you personally to confirm your build's legitimacy, nor do we have the source to compile ourselves.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No offense , H3XX3H , I really enjoy what you do , but since the build itself is closed source , has anyone used a network traffic analyzer on it while it was running to make sure that all outgoing connections were legit ?
I would be one of the first to be 'up a paddle, ' since I have eagerly used H3XX3R 's builds , so I 'm not completely paranoid .
I was just curious if anyone has checked this out ?
Again , no offense H3XX3H , but I assume most of the people who have used your build do n't know you personally to confirm your build 's legitimacy , nor do we have the source to compile ourselves .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No offense, H3XX3H, I really enjoy what you do, but since the build itself is closed source, has anyone used a network traffic analyzer on it while it was running to make sure that all outgoing connections were legit?
I would be one of the first to be 'up a paddle,' since I have eagerly used H3XX3R's builds, so I'm not completely paranoid.
I was just curious if anyone has checked this out?
Again, no offense H3XX3H, but I assume most of the people who have used your build don't know you personally to confirm your build's legitimacy, nor do we have the source to compile ourselves.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30803820</id>
	<title>Re:ChromeOS ?</title>
	<author>bertoelcon</author>
	<datestamp>1263743160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Chromium is the open source versions where Chrome are the "Google Experience"  ones. <a href="http://dev.chromium.org/" title="chromium.org">http://dev.chromium.org/</a> [chromium.org] has them listed as Chromium and Chromium OS.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Chromium is the open source versions where Chrome are the " Google Experience " ones .
http : //dev.chromium.org/ [ chromium.org ] has them listed as Chromium and Chromium OS .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Chromium is the open source versions where Chrome are the "Google Experience"  ones.
http://dev.chromium.org/ [chromium.org] has them listed as Chromium and Chromium OS.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30803078</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30803644</id>
	<title>Re:Maybe he'll make Chrome OS useful!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263741480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why wouldn't you want hop on any computer, login, and have access to everything you need? If your hard drive crashes, ya lose everything. If you're backups fail, ya lose everything. It is much more likely that your cheap ass newegg hardware fails than an entire cloud with numerous amounts of redundancy to simply lose your data. I think people need to start putting more trust in to the cloud because it is a fucking hell of a lot better than what 90\% of computer users have. Which is nothing as far as backups are concerned. Yea it's not perfect for everybody, but I honestly think people need to give it a try. Gamers worried too? Shit, you'd be surprised at all the awesome games that have been ported to Flash. Look at <a href="http://www.silvergames.com/game/quake-flash/" title="silvergames.com" rel="nofollow">Quake</a> [silvergames.com] for example. I know it's old, but think about the <em>potential</em>. That is the point of all this. It's not about what it can currently do (which is still a pretty large amount of shit), it's rather what it will become (which will be even more incredible). "Shitty Web Apps" fuel most of the fucking small businesses in this entire country. Did you ever think about that? Look at PSA and CRM software like ConnectWise. Multi-million dollar software companies that use ASP.NET apps. All they need is a toolkit and a web browser. If it can help small businesses (which is does), then it will help everyone else too.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why would n't you want hop on any computer , login , and have access to everything you need ?
If your hard drive crashes , ya lose everything .
If you 're backups fail , ya lose everything .
It is much more likely that your cheap ass newegg hardware fails than an entire cloud with numerous amounts of redundancy to simply lose your data .
I think people need to start putting more trust in to the cloud because it is a fucking hell of a lot better than what 90 \ % of computer users have .
Which is nothing as far as backups are concerned .
Yea it 's not perfect for everybody , but I honestly think people need to give it a try .
Gamers worried too ?
Shit , you 'd be surprised at all the awesome games that have been ported to Flash .
Look at Quake [ silvergames.com ] for example .
I know it 's old , but think about the potential .
That is the point of all this .
It 's not about what it can currently do ( which is still a pretty large amount of shit ) , it 's rather what it will become ( which will be even more incredible ) .
" Shitty Web Apps " fuel most of the fucking small businesses in this entire country .
Did you ever think about that ?
Look at PSA and CRM software like ConnectWise .
Multi-million dollar software companies that use ASP.NET apps .
All they need is a toolkit and a web browser .
If it can help small businesses ( which is does ) , then it will help everyone else too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why wouldn't you want hop on any computer, login, and have access to everything you need?
If your hard drive crashes, ya lose everything.
If you're backups fail, ya lose everything.
It is much more likely that your cheap ass newegg hardware fails than an entire cloud with numerous amounts of redundancy to simply lose your data.
I think people need to start putting more trust in to the cloud because it is a fucking hell of a lot better than what 90\% of computer users have.
Which is nothing as far as backups are concerned.
Yea it's not perfect for everybody, but I honestly think people need to give it a try.
Gamers worried too?
Shit, you'd be surprised at all the awesome games that have been ported to Flash.
Look at Quake [silvergames.com] for example.
I know it's old, but think about the potential.
That is the point of all this.
It's not about what it can currently do (which is still a pretty large amount of shit), it's rather what it will become (which will be even more incredible).
"Shitty Web Apps" fuel most of the fucking small businesses in this entire country.
Did you ever think about that?
Look at PSA and CRM software like ConnectWise.
Multi-million dollar software companies that use ASP.NET apps.
All they need is a toolkit and a web browser.
If it can help small businesses (which is does), then it will help everyone else too.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30803080</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30804074</id>
	<title>Re:And the point of this is ... ???</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263745620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Looks like vendor lock-in to me<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... all depends on Google. If Google ever goes bye-bye, all your data goes bye-bye too.</p></div><p>You've never heard of the Data Liberation Front have you? It's a group run by Google that specializes in ways to backup or migrate your data from Google products. If you want to keep backups of your Google web app data in case they disappear, you may go right ahead. With few exceptions, you have that power.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Looks like vendor lock-in to me ... all depends on Google .
If Google ever goes bye-bye , all your data goes bye-bye too.You 've never heard of the Data Liberation Front have you ?
It 's a group run by Google that specializes in ways to backup or migrate your data from Google products .
If you want to keep backups of your Google web app data in case they disappear , you may go right ahead .
With few exceptions , you have that power .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Looks like vendor lock-in to me ... all depends on Google.
If Google ever goes bye-bye, all your data goes bye-bye too.You've never heard of the Data Liberation Front have you?
It's a group run by Google that specializes in ways to backup or migrate your data from Google products.
If you want to keep backups of your Google web app data in case they disappear, you may go right ahead.
With few exceptions, you have that power.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30802926</id>
	<title>OK. I need a Karma whore.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263735240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't get who this guy is. He was <i>the source</i> for ChromeOS builds?!? Google dropped it?! How does this guy handle Google's builds?</p><p>I don't get it.</p><p>ChromeOS Zero - what's so special about it?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't get who this guy is .
He was the source for ChromeOS builds ? ! ?
Google dropped it ? !
How does this guy handle Google 's builds ? I do n't get it.ChromeOS Zero - what 's so special about it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't get who this guy is.
He was the source for ChromeOS builds?!?
Google dropped it?!
How does this guy handle Google's builds?I don't get it.ChromeOS Zero - what's so special about it?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30806962</id>
	<title>Re:Is a Google account still a requirement</title>
	<author>cl0s</author>
	<datestamp>1263823440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It was only required because of the build that the providers put on it. To use the OS it is def not required and there is plenty of builds even for the G1 that let you skip this step now, sync to Funombol, Exchange or nothing at all if you want now.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It was only required because of the build that the providers put on it .
To use the OS it is def not required and there is plenty of builds even for the G1 that let you skip this step now , sync to Funombol , Exchange or nothing at all if you want now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It was only required because of the build that the providers put on it.
To use the OS it is def not required and there is plenty of builds even for the G1 that let you skip this step now, sync to Funombol, Exchange or nothing at all if you want now.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30804994</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30803072</id>
	<title>As a 49 year old feminist grandmother</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263736440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I question if anyone actually wants this besides the director of the museum of contemporary art. ChromeOS just seems generally useless compared to something like Fedora. Of course some idiot will always say how great it is with cloud logic that nobody but himself can make head or tail of.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I question if anyone actually wants this besides the director of the museum of contemporary art .
ChromeOS just seems generally useless compared to something like Fedora .
Of course some idiot will always say how great it is with cloud logic that nobody but himself can make head or tail of .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I question if anyone actually wants this besides the director of the museum of contemporary art.
ChromeOS just seems generally useless compared to something like Fedora.
Of course some idiot will always say how great it is with cloud logic that nobody but himself can make head or tail of.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30806492</id>
	<title>please don't</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263818820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm very disappointed with myself. I've just eaten shit to prove myself that I don't like it.<br>For those of you that have the curiosity to try, please don't. ChromeOS is like the goatse of operating systems. What the hell are they thinking. I generally don't dislike Google as a company, but I guess they will have a lot of enemies treating Linux like this.<br>I'm not bashing Hexxeh for what he did. He just did a public service. I guess my rage against myself wold be greater if I had to compile ChromeOS just to try it. I will probability slit my wrists after.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm very disappointed with myself .
I 've just eaten shit to prove myself that I do n't like it.For those of you that have the curiosity to try , please do n't .
ChromeOS is like the goatse of operating systems .
What the hell are they thinking .
I generally do n't dislike Google as a company , but I guess they will have a lot of enemies treating Linux like this.I 'm not bashing Hexxeh for what he did .
He just did a public service .
I guess my rage against myself wold be greater if I had to compile ChromeOS just to try it .
I will probability slit my wrists after .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm very disappointed with myself.
I've just eaten shit to prove myself that I don't like it.For those of you that have the curiosity to try, please don't.
ChromeOS is like the goatse of operating systems.
What the hell are they thinking.
I generally don't dislike Google as a company, but I guess they will have a lot of enemies treating Linux like this.I'm not bashing Hexxeh for what he did.
He just did a public service.
I guess my rage against myself wold be greater if I had to compile ChromeOS just to try it.
I will probability slit my wrists after.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30803036</id>
	<title>ChromeOS Zero - what's so special about it?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263736260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>ChromeOS Zero -  is the first OS API with no functions.*</p><p>*Not a low-calorie OS.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>ChromeOS Zero - is the first OS API with no functions .
* * Not a low-calorie OS .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>ChromeOS Zero -  is the first OS API with no functions.
**Not a low-calorie OS.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30802926</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30803672</id>
	<title>Re:OK. I need a Karma whore.</title>
	<author>rchh</author>
	<datestamp>1263741840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Chromium OS is the <a href="http://src.chromium.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=chromium.git;a=commit;h=d166f140084844991d8f358d6b4e5e318c7a0968" title="chromium.org" rel="nofollow">development version</a> [chromium.org] of Chrome OS which, when released during 2nd half of 2010, is also going to be completely <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google\_Chrome\_OS" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">open source.</a> [wikipedia.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Chromium OS is the development version [ chromium.org ] of Chrome OS which , when released during 2nd half of 2010 , is also going to be completely open source .
[ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Chromium OS is the development version [chromium.org] of Chrome OS which, when released during 2nd half of 2010, is also going to be completely open source.
[wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30804112</id>
	<title>Re:Maybe he'll make Chrome OS useful!</title>
	<author>defireman</author>
	<datestamp>1263745980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>How about if you lose your connection to the cloud, you lose everything. This all boils down to control. If you own your Hard Drive, you own your data.<br> <br>

As the many examples in history shows, exchanging a little control for convenience will eventually leave you at the mercy of the software's owners.</htmltext>
<tokenext>How about if you lose your connection to the cloud , you lose everything .
This all boils down to control .
If you own your Hard Drive , you own your data .
As the many examples in history shows , exchanging a little control for convenience will eventually leave you at the mercy of the software 's owners .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about if you lose your connection to the cloud, you lose everything.
This all boils down to control.
If you own your Hard Drive, you own your data.
As the many examples in history shows, exchanging a little control for convenience will eventually leave you at the mercy of the software's owners.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30803644</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30812210</id>
	<title>Re:And the point of this is ... ???</title>
	<author>H3XX3H</author>
	<datestamp>1263807420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Google offer ways to get your data into and out of most of their services, in many cases they make it as easy as possible to migrate away if you wish to do so.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Google offer ways to get your data into and out of most of their services , in many cases they make it as easy as possible to migrate away if you wish to do so .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google offer ways to get your data into and out of most of their services, in many cases they make it as easy as possible to migrate away if you wish to do so.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30803750</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30802982</id>
	<title>What is this?</title>
	<author>POds</author>
	<datestamp>1263735840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm confused.</p><p>How are his builds different from what google release? Is google's release simply for mobile devices whilst the releases that Hexxah publishes are build for desk/laptops ?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm confused.How are his builds different from what google release ?
Is google 's release simply for mobile devices whilst the releases that Hexxah publishes are build for desk/laptops ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm confused.How are his builds different from what google release?
Is google's release simply for mobile devices whilst the releases that Hexxah publishes are build for desk/laptops ?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30803898</id>
	<title>Re:OK. I need a Karma whore.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263743820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Real ChromeOS taste + nothing</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Real ChromeOS taste + nothing</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Real ChromeOS taste + nothing</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30802926</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_18_0020203.30802866</id>
	<title>Interesting</title>
	<author>colinrichardday</author>
	<datestamp>1263734580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>interesting</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>interesting</tokentext>
<sentencetext>interesting</sentencetext>
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