<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_01_16_2140218</id>
	<title>Italy Floats Official Permission Requirement for Web Video Uploads</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1263636240000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>An anonymous reader writes with some bad news from Italy, noting that new rules proposed there would "require people who upload videos onto the Internet to obtain <a href="http://www.thestandard.com/news/2010/01/15/proposed-web-video-restrictions-cause-outrage-italy">authorization from the Communications Ministry</a> similar to that required by television broadcasters, drastically reducing freedom to communicate over the Web." Understandably, some say such controls represent a conflict of interest for Silvio Berlusconi, "who exercises political control over the state broadcaster RAI in his role as prime minister and is also the owner of Italy's largest private broadcaster, Mediaset."</htmltext>
<tokenext>An anonymous reader writes with some bad news from Italy , noting that new rules proposed there would " require people who upload videos onto the Internet to obtain authorization from the Communications Ministry similar to that required by television broadcasters , drastically reducing freedom to communicate over the Web .
" Understandably , some say such controls represent a conflict of interest for Silvio Berlusconi , " who exercises political control over the state broadcaster RAI in his role as prime minister and is also the owner of Italy 's largest private broadcaster , Mediaset .
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<sentencetext>An anonymous reader writes with some bad news from Italy, noting that new rules proposed there would "require people who upload videos onto the Internet to obtain authorization from the Communications Ministry similar to that required by television broadcasters, drastically reducing freedom to communicate over the Web.
" Understandably, some say such controls represent a conflict of interest for Silvio Berlusconi, "who exercises political control over the state broadcaster RAI in his role as prime minister and is also the owner of Italy's largest private broadcaster, Mediaset.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2140218.30794710</id>
	<title>Constitution, People!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263647820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is exactly the reason the USA has a constitution. It limits the power of government, so that if Congress ever tried to do something that boneheaded here, the Supreme Court would just strike it down.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is exactly the reason the USA has a constitution .
It limits the power of government , so that if Congress ever tried to do something that boneheaded here , the Supreme Court would just strike it down .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is exactly the reason the USA has a constitution.
It limits the power of government, so that if Congress ever tried to do something that boneheaded here, the Supreme Court would just strike it down.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2140218.30794420</id>
	<title>I invite Mr. Berlusconi</title>
	<author>Arancaytar</author>
	<datestamp>1263645660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>To move to his apparent favorite country, the People's Republic of China. He'd love to see his utopia in practice, I'm sure.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>To move to his apparent favorite country , the People 's Republic of China .
He 'd love to see his utopia in practice , I 'm sure .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To move to his apparent favorite country, the People's Republic of China.
He'd love to see his utopia in practice, I'm sure.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2140218.30793674</id>
	<title>This is not new in Italy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263640740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Some time ago, they tried <a href="http://slashdot.org/story/07/10/24/134241/Italy-Wants-to-Restrict-Blogs" title="slashdot.org">something similar</a> [slashdot.org] with blogs.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Some time ago , they tried something similar [ slashdot.org ] with blogs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Some time ago, they tried something similar [slashdot.org] with blogs.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2140218.30793942</id>
	<title>Re:That's insane</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263642240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>easier to circumvent by posting an image consisting of still frames from said video. could even use 'aalib' to post the images as ASCII</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>easier to circumvent by posting an image consisting of still frames from said video .
could even use 'aalib ' to post the images as ASCII</tokentext>
<sentencetext>easier to circumvent by posting an image consisting of still frames from said video.
could even use 'aalib' to post the images as ASCII</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2140218.30795288</id>
	<title>Re:Enforcement?</title>
	<author>chiui</author>
	<datestamp>1263653940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>How exactly would they enforce this?  </p></div><p>You don't know how things works in Italy. The government makes random laws and never think how to enforce them. The result is that there are plenty of laws which are never enforced. And do you know how they fix this? They make more laws<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>How exactly would they enforce this ?
You do n't know how things works in Italy .
The government makes random laws and never think how to enforce them .
The result is that there are plenty of laws which are never enforced .
And do you know how they fix this ?
They make more laws : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How exactly would they enforce this?
You don't know how things works in Italy.
The government makes random laws and never think how to enforce them.
The result is that there are plenty of laws which are never enforced.
And do you know how they fix this?
They make more laws :)
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2140218.30794908</id>
	<title>Best tag</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263649860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>!freedom</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>! freedom</tokentext>
<sentencetext>!freedom</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2140218.30798634</id>
	<title>Re:from an italian perspective</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263746160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ok, obviously the grammar is understandable since you are Italian, but don't they capitalize sentences in Italy? You took the effort to write a one page rant, would it kill you to press shift once in a while?</p><p>Which brings me to the reason I'm replying, obviously this is horrible from a freedom of speech point of view. (By the way, you don't cite any sources for your claims, but the situation you describe is very plausible to me since it's very similar to my country. I would not be at all surprised to find this is the truth in Italy.) However, first off, why is this a big deal? Have videos really been that significant in terms of political power? Are Italians illiterate and unable to read non-video blogs? I'm sure that is not the case, and even if they are lazy, you could upload audio alone.</p><p>And furthermore, now that you have to be at least literate to upload videos, maybe at least the number of idiots on youtube will decrease? I mean, yeah, loss of freedom is an incomparably enormous price to pay for it, but I don't see how videos add to the internet's potential for freedom.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ok , obviously the grammar is understandable since you are Italian , but do n't they capitalize sentences in Italy ?
You took the effort to write a one page rant , would it kill you to press shift once in a while ? Which brings me to the reason I 'm replying , obviously this is horrible from a freedom of speech point of view .
( By the way , you do n't cite any sources for your claims , but the situation you describe is very plausible to me since it 's very similar to my country .
I would not be at all surprised to find this is the truth in Italy .
) However , first off , why is this a big deal ?
Have videos really been that significant in terms of political power ?
Are Italians illiterate and unable to read non-video blogs ?
I 'm sure that is not the case , and even if they are lazy , you could upload audio alone.And furthermore , now that you have to be at least literate to upload videos , maybe at least the number of idiots on youtube will decrease ?
I mean , yeah , loss of freedom is an incomparably enormous price to pay for it , but I do n't see how videos add to the internet 's potential for freedom .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ok, obviously the grammar is understandable since you are Italian, but don't they capitalize sentences in Italy?
You took the effort to write a one page rant, would it kill you to press shift once in a while?Which brings me to the reason I'm replying, obviously this is horrible from a freedom of speech point of view.
(By the way, you don't cite any sources for your claims, but the situation you describe is very plausible to me since it's very similar to my country.
I would not be at all surprised to find this is the truth in Italy.
) However, first off, why is this a big deal?
Have videos really been that significant in terms of political power?
Are Italians illiterate and unable to read non-video blogs?
I'm sure that is not the case, and even if they are lazy, you could upload audio alone.And furthermore, now that you have to be at least literate to upload videos, maybe at least the number of idiots on youtube will decrease?
I mean, yeah, loss of freedom is an incomparably enormous price to pay for it, but I don't see how videos add to the internet's potential for freedom.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2140218.30795202</id>
	<title>Re:Italy isn't a good place.</title>
	<author>chiui</author>
	<datestamp>1263653040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When I hear some bad decision made in the United States I don't think the same of US Citizens. I don't think it's their fault, and I don't think they deserve whatever happens after that decision. I expect people from all over the world to express their opinions about my government and I like to do the same to other governments than my own. We are citizens of the world. Of course, there are smaller issues we don't understand and which are better discussed by people living in their state.<br>(An Italian citizen)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When I hear some bad decision made in the United States I do n't think the same of US Citizens .
I do n't think it 's their fault , and I do n't think they deserve whatever happens after that decision .
I expect people from all over the world to express their opinions about my government and I like to do the same to other governments than my own .
We are citizens of the world .
Of course , there are smaller issues we do n't understand and which are better discussed by people living in their state .
( An Italian citizen )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I hear some bad decision made in the United States I don't think the same of US Citizens.
I don't think it's their fault, and I don't think they deserve whatever happens after that decision.
I expect people from all over the world to express their opinions about my government and I like to do the same to other governments than my own.
We are citizens of the world.
Of course, there are smaller issues we don't understand and which are better discussed by people living in their state.
(An Italian citizen)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2140218.30795240</id>
	<title>Re:CANADA next?</title>
	<author>yacc143</author>
	<datestamp>1263653400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I admit that I've found that dual-language fetish in Canada always very charming<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I admit that I 've found that dual-language fetish in Canada always very charming ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I admit that I've found that dual-language fetish in Canada always very charming ;)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2140218.30795332</id>
	<title>Re:Constitution, People!</title>
	<author>dunkelfalke</author>
	<datestamp>1263654600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Paper doesn't blush.<br>The Soviet Union also had a constitution. With rights for free press, free speech and so on in it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Paper does n't blush.The Soviet Union also had a constitution .
With rights for free press , free speech and so on in it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Paper doesn't blush.The Soviet Union also had a constitution.
With rights for free press, free speech and so on in it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2140218.30794710</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2140218.30795954</id>
	<title>Digital Mafia?</title>
	<author>The Wild Norseman</author>
	<datestamp>1263662100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He'd better be careful otherwise he could wake up with an ASCII horse's head in his email inbox.</p><p>Push the Italians too far and see what happens!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He 'd better be careful otherwise he could wake up with an ASCII horse 's head in his email inbox.Push the Italians too far and see what happens !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He'd better be careful otherwise he could wake up with an ASCII horse's head in his email inbox.Push the Italians too far and see what happens!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2140218.30795420</id>
	<title>Re:That's insane</title>
	<author>sopssa</author>
	<datestamp>1263655800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>No. You know how it will be circumvented?<br>By about 60 million people <em>just not caring</em>.</p></div><p>That doesn't really help. No, they won't be enforcing and punishing everyone. But they will target specific persons with it to silent and shut them down.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>No .
You know how it will be circumvented ? By about 60 million people just not caring.That does n't really help .
No , they wo n't be enforcing and punishing everyone .
But they will target specific persons with it to silent and shut them down .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No.
You know how it will be circumvented?By about 60 million people just not caring.That doesn't really help.
No, they won't be enforcing and punishing everyone.
But they will target specific persons with it to silent and shut them down.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2140218.30794268</id>
	<title>Re:That's insane</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263644520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>No need to circumvent for private individuals, fortunately. Our government is sloppy and has not thought of a single way to enforce this. It will be used against competitors to Berlusconi's TVs and against Murdoch's Sky, which is in the scope of the bill. Not that it is so much better...</htmltext>
<tokenext>No need to circumvent for private individuals , fortunately .
Our government is sloppy and has not thought of a single way to enforce this .
It will be used against competitors to Berlusconi 's TVs and against Murdoch 's Sky , which is in the scope of the bill .
Not that it is so much better.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No need to circumvent for private individuals, fortunately.
Our government is sloppy and has not thought of a single way to enforce this.
It will be used against competitors to Berlusconi's TVs and against Murdoch's Sky, which is in the scope of the bill.
Not that it is so much better...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2140218.30795034</id>
	<title>Re:Constitution, People!</title>
	<author>John Hasler</author>
	<datestamp>1263651240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Italy has a <a href="http://www.senato.it/documenti/repository/istituzione/costituzione\_inglese.pdf" title="senato.it"> constitution</a> [senato.it] which this law may violate.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Italy has a constitution [ senato.it ] which this law may violate .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Italy has a  constitution [senato.it] which this law may violate.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2140218.30793594</id>
	<title>That's insane</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263640260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's horrific. An extremely oppressive requirement. I expect that anyone who disagrees with Silvio will be denied permission to upload anything. This is also impractical, because you can't expect every single citizen to apply for permission just to post videos of their cat onto youtube.<br> <br>

Thankfully, I think that this could be circumvented easily, by transferring video files to another country in an encrypted form, then getting friends in the other country to unencrypt and upload it for you.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's horrific .
An extremely oppressive requirement .
I expect that anyone who disagrees with Silvio will be denied permission to upload anything .
This is also impractical , because you ca n't expect every single citizen to apply for permission just to post videos of their cat onto youtube .
Thankfully , I think that this could be circumvented easily , by transferring video files to another country in an encrypted form , then getting friends in the other country to unencrypt and upload it for you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's horrific.
An extremely oppressive requirement.
I expect that anyone who disagrees with Silvio will be denied permission to upload anything.
This is also impractical, because you can't expect every single citizen to apply for permission just to post videos of their cat onto youtube.
Thankfully, I think that this could be circumvented easily, by transferring video files to another country in an encrypted form, then getting friends in the other country to unencrypt and upload it for you.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2140218.30797188</id>
	<title>Re:That's insane</title>
	<author>u38cg</author>
	<datestamp>1263728880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I suspect the quickest way to circumvent it would simply be to follow the law and deluge the authorities with several million videos of kittens chasing laser pointers.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I suspect the quickest way to circumvent it would simply be to follow the law and deluge the authorities with several million videos of kittens chasing laser pointers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I suspect the quickest way to circumvent it would simply be to follow the law and deluge the authorities with several million videos of kittens chasing laser pointers.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2140218.30794906</id>
	<title>Enforcement?</title>
	<author>vampire\_baozi</author>
	<datestamp>1263649800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How exactly would they enforce this?  At best he can force Italian ISPs to comply, which could be circumvented by simply having a decent enough proxy outside Italian borders, or just sending files to users in other countries.  I'd also hate to see how these licenses were handled- on a computer basis, in which ISPs authorize individual accounts?  The entire idea simply seems absurd and unworkable.</p><p>On another note, IANAL, but would this in any way conflict with any European Union laws regarding freedom of speech?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How exactly would they enforce this ?
At best he can force Italian ISPs to comply , which could be circumvented by simply having a decent enough proxy outside Italian borders , or just sending files to users in other countries .
I 'd also hate to see how these licenses were handled- on a computer basis , in which ISPs authorize individual accounts ?
The entire idea simply seems absurd and unworkable.On another note , IANAL , but would this in any way conflict with any European Union laws regarding freedom of speech ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How exactly would they enforce this?
At best he can force Italian ISPs to comply, which could be circumvented by simply having a decent enough proxy outside Italian borders, or just sending files to users in other countries.
I'd also hate to see how these licenses were handled- on a computer basis, in which ISPs authorize individual accounts?
The entire idea simply seems absurd and unworkable.On another note, IANAL, but would this in any way conflict with any European Union laws regarding freedom of speech?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2140218.30794370</id>
	<title>Re:That's insane</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263645240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No. You know how it will be circumvented?<br>By about 60 million people <em>just not caring</em>.<br>Or is there even a single person there who still does not think and say <em>fuck Berlusconi</em> at every chance he can get? ^^</p><p>Of course, Italians are a bit like we here in Germany: The broad majority of the people, including the military, the police, and other state workers, might agree that they strongly disagree with something. And they might even <em>know</em> that they all agree. Yet they still cave in and fear a teeny tiny group of assholes who are very sure of themselves, excusing it with the like &ldquo;But alone, I can&rsquo;t change anything!&ldquo;.<br>Was the case back then. And unfortunately, nothing is changed.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:(<br>Somehow I have the feeling that&rsquo;s also the reason for the mafia.</p><p>And yet I can&rsquo;t give up on them. Their food is too <em>delicious</em>!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No .
You know how it will be circumvented ? By about 60 million people just not caring.Or is there even a single person there who still does not think and say fuck Berlusconi at every chance he can get ?
^ ^ Of course , Italians are a bit like we here in Germany : The broad majority of the people , including the military , the police , and other state workers , might agree that they strongly disagree with something .
And they might even know that they all agree .
Yet they still cave in and fear a teeny tiny group of assholes who are very sure of themselves , excusing it with the like    But alone , I can    t change anything !    .Was the case back then .
And unfortunately , nothing is changed .
: ( Somehow I have the feeling that    s also the reason for the mafia.And yet I can    t give up on them .
Their food is too delicious !
; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No.
You know how it will be circumvented?By about 60 million people just not caring.Or is there even a single person there who still does not think and say fuck Berlusconi at every chance he can get?
^^Of course, Italians are a bit like we here in Germany: The broad majority of the people, including the military, the police, and other state workers, might agree that they strongly disagree with something.
And they might even know that they all agree.
Yet they still cave in and fear a teeny tiny group of assholes who are very sure of themselves, excusing it with the like “But alone, I can’t change anything!“.Was the case back then.
And unfortunately, nothing is changed.
:(Somehow I have the feeling that’s also the reason for the mafia.And yet I can’t give up on them.
Their food is too delicious!
;)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2140218.30794000</id>
	<title>Re:Italy isn't a good place.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263642660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Most people don't realize it but Italy is a totalitarian regime that pretends to be parliamentary. Most communications in the country are censored and/or overtly political. Also the police (who are much more like a military than even in the states) have the power to collect fines on the spot.</p></div></blockquote><p>I've spent a lot of time in Italy in my life, and when I tell people that I don't believe the Italian system of government has not changed very much since the days of the Caesars, they think I'm crazy.  Caligula would feel right at home.</p><p>If you ever want to have your eyes opened to Italy, Italians and Italian culture, a great place to start is the very entertaining book my historian Luigi Barzini, <i>The Italians</i>.  He claims that it's all about theater, which is not nearly as innocuous as it sounds.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Most people do n't realize it but Italy is a totalitarian regime that pretends to be parliamentary .
Most communications in the country are censored and/or overtly political .
Also the police ( who are much more like a military than even in the states ) have the power to collect fines on the spot.I 've spent a lot of time in Italy in my life , and when I tell people that I do n't believe the Italian system of government has not changed very much since the days of the Caesars , they think I 'm crazy .
Caligula would feel right at home.If you ever want to have your eyes opened to Italy , Italians and Italian culture , a great place to start is the very entertaining book my historian Luigi Barzini , The Italians .
He claims that it 's all about theater , which is not nearly as innocuous as it sounds .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most people don't realize it but Italy is a totalitarian regime that pretends to be parliamentary.
Most communications in the country are censored and/or overtly political.
Also the police (who are much more like a military than even in the states) have the power to collect fines on the spot.I've spent a lot of time in Italy in my life, and when I tell people that I don't believe the Italian system of government has not changed very much since the days of the Caesars, they think I'm crazy.
Caligula would feel right at home.If you ever want to have your eyes opened to Italy, Italians and Italian culture, a great place to start is the very entertaining book my historian Luigi Barzini, The Italians.
He claims that it's all about theater, which is not nearly as innocuous as it sounds.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2140218.30794740</id>
	<title>Fun</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263648060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Whoever has to look at these videos will have real fun when a bunch of people submit loads of goatse videos</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Whoever has to look at these videos will have real fun when a bunch of people submit loads of goatse videos</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Whoever has to look at these videos will have real fun when a bunch of people submit loads of goatse videos</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2140218.30793910</id>
	<title>What did some one do upload a video of some one ge</title>
	<author>Joe The Dragon</author>
	<datestamp>1263642120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What did some one do upload a video of some one getting beat up buy the cops for not paying a bribe?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What did some one do upload a video of some one getting beat up buy the cops for not paying a bribe ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What did some one do upload a video of some one getting beat up buy the cops for not paying a bribe?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2140218.30799466</id>
	<title>Re:Canada has similar laws</title>
	<author>Mashiki</author>
	<datestamp>1263753300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Living in Canada and having posted video's to youtube, I see no such people showing up at my door.  I've done video's from my hometown, of London, Ont.  And a bunch of stuff on Toronto, Ont and Hamilton, Ont.  No one is showing up.  I'm going to guess that his prior conviction for whatever he did against kids is the reason.  In Canada if you're actually guilty of such stuff, we do keep relatively good tabs on people for things like that even if you have the right to privacy; and your neighbours aren't allowed to be told you're a paedophile and just moved in.</p><p>Of course it could just be whatever municipality he's in trying to make money but then they're running afoul of the BNA, unless they've been specifically granted rights to tax like that.  The Federal and Provincial government generally don't care, in fact you can get funding for homegrown content in Canada.  I've been offered it for mine by the , seriously why would I want that?  Hobbies are hobbies.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Living in Canada and having posted video 's to youtube , I see no such people showing up at my door .
I 've done video 's from my hometown , of London , Ont .
And a bunch of stuff on Toronto , Ont and Hamilton , Ont .
No one is showing up .
I 'm going to guess that his prior conviction for whatever he did against kids is the reason .
In Canada if you 're actually guilty of such stuff , we do keep relatively good tabs on people for things like that even if you have the right to privacy ; and your neighbours are n't allowed to be told you 're a paedophile and just moved in.Of course it could just be whatever municipality he 's in trying to make money but then they 're running afoul of the BNA , unless they 've been specifically granted rights to tax like that .
The Federal and Provincial government generally do n't care , in fact you can get funding for homegrown content in Canada .
I 've been offered it for mine by the , seriously why would I want that ?
Hobbies are hobbies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Living in Canada and having posted video's to youtube, I see no such people showing up at my door.
I've done video's from my hometown, of London, Ont.
And a bunch of stuff on Toronto, Ont and Hamilton, Ont.
No one is showing up.
I'm going to guess that his prior conviction for whatever he did against kids is the reason.
In Canada if you're actually guilty of such stuff, we do keep relatively good tabs on people for things like that even if you have the right to privacy; and your neighbours aren't allowed to be told you're a paedophile and just moved in.Of course it could just be whatever municipality he's in trying to make money but then they're running afoul of the BNA, unless they've been specifically granted rights to tax like that.
The Federal and Provincial government generally don't care, in fact you can get funding for homegrown content in Canada.
I've been offered it for mine by the , seriously why would I want that?
Hobbies are hobbies.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2140218.30793996</id>
	<title>Fascism 2.0</title>
	<author>CranberryKing</author>
	<datestamp>1263642600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>from the country that invented it! But I doubt it will fly with the people. They would recognize it.. No?</htmltext>
<tokenext>from the country that invented it !
But I doubt it will fly with the people .
They would recognize it.. No ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>from the country that invented it!
But I doubt it will fly with the people.
They would recognize it.. No?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2140218.30794154</id>
	<title>So whats next?</title>
	<author>Darkness404</author>
	<datestamp>1263643800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So whats next? Having to get permission to type a paragraph? To post in forums? To update Facebook? To post on Twitter?</htmltext>
<tokenext>So whats next ?
Having to get permission to type a paragraph ?
To post in forums ?
To update Facebook ?
To post on Twitter ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So whats next?
Having to get permission to type a paragraph?
To post in forums?
To update Facebook?
To post on Twitter?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2140218.30798380</id>
	<title>Re: Crap! - Another Bad Idea for the ATCT Treaty</title>
	<author>gink1</author>
	<datestamp>1263744300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Now that Italy has come up with this idea I'm worried.</p><p>Someone in the group crafting the secret ACTA Treaty (http://eff.org) may see this and incorporate it into the damn treaty unless it's formalized!<br>(Hard for me to know since it's all secret.)</p><p>And if the US public cannot find a way to stop the treaty we will end up forced to implement this in US law.</p><p>And wouldn't that be nice?</p><p>(Of course we have Obama, the RIAA and the MPAA to thank for all this).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now that Italy has come up with this idea I 'm worried.Someone in the group crafting the secret ACTA Treaty ( http : //eff.org ) may see this and incorporate it into the damn treaty unless it 's formalized !
( Hard for me to know since it 's all secret .
) And if the US public can not find a way to stop the treaty we will end up forced to implement this in US law.And would n't that be nice ?
( Of course we have Obama , the RIAA and the MPAA to thank for all this ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now that Italy has come up with this idea I'm worried.Someone in the group crafting the secret ACTA Treaty (http://eff.org) may see this and incorporate it into the damn treaty unless it's formalized!
(Hard for me to know since it's all secret.
)And if the US public cannot find a way to stop the treaty we will end up forced to implement this in US law.And wouldn't that be nice?
(Of course we have Obama, the RIAA and the MPAA to thank for all this).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2140218.30795382</id>
	<title>Re:Enforcement?</title>
	<author>eaman</author>
	<datestamp>1263655320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They just won't: they don't even bother to know how the internet thing works, they probably would throw some millions of public money to a "thrusted friend" of the governament just to show that they invest on the net in behalf of the Italian population.</p><p>Obviously such a ting would never work, so they can blame the internet thing forever (the only media they don't control) and ask to remove whatever they don't like from time to time without any criteria.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They just wo n't : they do n't even bother to know how the internet thing works , they probably would throw some millions of public money to a " thrusted friend " of the governament just to show that they invest on the net in behalf of the Italian population.Obviously such a ting would never work , so they can blame the internet thing forever ( the only media they do n't control ) and ask to remove whatever they do n't like from time to time without any criteria .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They just won't: they don't even bother to know how the internet thing works, they probably would throw some millions of public money to a "thrusted friend" of the governament just to show that they invest on the net in behalf of the Italian population.Obviously such a ting would never work, so they can blame the internet thing forever (the only media they don't control) and ask to remove whatever they don't like from time to time without any criteria.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2140218.30795064</id>
	<title>Re:And yet, the italians keep voting for this guy</title>
	<author>John Hasler</author>
	<datestamp>1263651360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; Democracy is the worst system except for all the others...</p><p>Which is a good reason to have as little democracy as possible and none of anything else.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; Democracy is the worst system except for all the others...Which is a good reason to have as little democracy as possible and none of anything else .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; Democracy is the worst system except for all the others...Which is a good reason to have as little democracy as possible and none of anything else.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2140218.30799268</id>
	<title>Re:That's insane</title>
	<author>Frankie70</author>
	<datestamp>1263751620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Thankfully, I think that this could be circumvented easily, by transferring video files to another country in an encrypted form, then getting friends in the other country to unencrypt and upload it for you</p></div></blockquote><p>Italy Floats Official Permission Requirement for sending stuff in encrypted form - Slashdot headlines few months down the line.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Thankfully , I think that this could be circumvented easily , by transferring video files to another country in an encrypted form , then getting friends in the other country to unencrypt and upload it for youItaly Floats Official Permission Requirement for sending stuff in encrypted form - Slashdot headlines few months down the line .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thankfully, I think that this could be circumvented easily, by transferring video files to another country in an encrypted form, then getting friends in the other country to unencrypt and upload it for youItaly Floats Official Permission Requirement for sending stuff in encrypted form - Slashdot headlines few months down the line.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2140218.30793962</id>
	<title>Re:That's insane</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263642420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>This is also impractical, because you can't expect every single citizen to apply for permission just to post videos of their cat onto youtube.</p></div><p>Indeed. One thing that could kill such a policy quickly is the huge number of people applying for permission for all sorts of material would swamp the institution. But seriously the oppressiveness of such a policy seems excessive; even for Italy. And to make this have any sort of effect at all they would have to block all access to foreign sites since they would continue to upload more or less whatever they would wish.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is also impractical , because you ca n't expect every single citizen to apply for permission just to post videos of their cat onto youtube.Indeed .
One thing that could kill such a policy quickly is the huge number of people applying for permission for all sorts of material would swamp the institution .
But seriously the oppressiveness of such a policy seems excessive ; even for Italy .
And to make this have any sort of effect at all they would have to block all access to foreign sites since they would continue to upload more or less whatever they would wish .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is also impractical, because you can't expect every single citizen to apply for permission just to post videos of their cat onto youtube.Indeed.
One thing that could kill such a policy quickly is the huge number of people applying for permission for all sorts of material would swamp the institution.
But seriously the oppressiveness of such a policy seems excessive; even for Italy.
And to make this have any sort of effect at all they would have to block all access to foreign sites since they would continue to upload more or less whatever they would wish.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2140218.30794192</id>
	<title>CANADA next?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263644040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>CRTC in Canada already controls TV, magazine publications and other media - blocking media without sufficient French content amongst other rules. If this passes in Italy it will only be a matter of time before they realize &ldquo;Oh, we should do the same!&rdquo; and require everyone to apply for permission to post videos &ndash; &ldquo;I&rsquo;m sorry sir, before uploading to the web your home made porn must be subtitled in French, credit attribution must be given for French kissing and your wife is not allowed to shave her legs&rdquo;...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>CRTC in Canada already controls TV , magazine publications and other media - blocking media without sufficient French content amongst other rules .
If this passes in Italy it will only be a matter of time before they realize    Oh , we should do the same !    and require everyone to apply for permission to post videos       I    m sorry sir , before uploading to the web your home made porn must be subtitled in French , credit attribution must be given for French kissing and your wife is not allowed to shave her legs    .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>CRTC in Canada already controls TV, magazine publications and other media - blocking media without sufficient French content amongst other rules.
If this passes in Italy it will only be a matter of time before they realize “Oh, we should do the same!” and require everyone to apply for permission to post videos – “I’m sorry sir, before uploading to the web your home made porn must be subtitled in French, credit attribution must be given for French kissing and your wife is not allowed to shave her legs”...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2140218.30798968</id>
	<title>Yikes</title>
	<author>koan</author>
	<datestamp>1263749040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Benito would approve.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Benito would approve .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Benito would approve.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2140218.30795684</id>
	<title>Re:That's insane</title>
	<author>mikael</author>
	<datestamp>1263658260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And in other news<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... sales of memory sticks, external USB drives and blank DVD's have suddenly skyrocketed along with the use of 'secure-ftp'.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And in other news ... sales of memory sticks , external USB drives and blank DVD 's have suddenly skyrocketed along with the use of 'secure-ftp' .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And in other news ... sales of memory sticks, external USB drives and blank DVD's have suddenly skyrocketed along with the use of 'secure-ftp'.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2140218.30793554</id>
	<title>What's with the Italians, anyway?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263639960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>-nt-</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>-nt-</tokentext>
<sentencetext>-nt-</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2140218.30799440</id>
	<title>Re:That's insane</title>
	<author>donstenk</author>
	<datestamp>1263753120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The majority of the people here in the south (Tropea, it's glorious) are pro-Berlusconi. In fact, in Sicily he got 120\% of the vote initially. That's why now they will be getting the bridge. Lot's of concrete paid for by the state, and concrete == mafia (who helped obtain the extra \% vote but underestimated the man's real popularity).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The majority of the people here in the south ( Tropea , it 's glorious ) are pro-Berlusconi .
In fact , in Sicily he got 120 \ % of the vote initially .
That 's why now they will be getting the bridge .
Lot 's of concrete paid for by the state , and concrete = = mafia ( who helped obtain the extra \ % vote but underestimated the man 's real popularity ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The majority of the people here in the south (Tropea, it's glorious) are pro-Berlusconi.
In fact, in Sicily he got 120\% of the vote initially.
That's why now they will be getting the bridge.
Lot's of concrete paid for by the state, and concrete == mafia (who helped obtain the extra \% vote but underestimated the man's real popularity).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2140218.30794922</id>
	<title>Re:Italian Booty</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263649980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The guy is going to be drummed out of office anyways.  He's become a laughing stock in Italy and in Europe.  Not just a laughing stock, a dirty old laughing stock.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The guy is going to be drummed out of office anyways .
He 's become a laughing stock in Italy and in Europe .
Not just a laughing stock , a dirty old laughing stock .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The guy is going to be drummed out of office anyways.
He's become a laughing stock in Italy and in Europe.
Not just a laughing stock, a dirty old laughing stock.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2140218.30796792</id>
	<title>Re:That's insane</title>
	<author>rtb61</author>
	<datestamp>1263721260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> Fortunately it is also a idiot's doomed 'FAIL', video phone calls over VOIP any one, literally millions of videos being uploaded to the internet all the time. Even if that were not the issue, how many people would need to be paid to view all those videos, each and every submission. Let me guess what also will be part of the lie, a two stream approval process. One for companies which corrupt Italian politicians have a financial interests in who get approvals free and another for the general public who must pay the full cost of getting approval and who must get on the end of the line to access the one censorship officer, don't worry waiting list will only be a few decades.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Fortunately it is also a idiot 's doomed 'FAIL ' , video phone calls over VOIP any one , literally millions of videos being uploaded to the internet all the time .
Even if that were not the issue , how many people would need to be paid to view all those videos , each and every submission .
Let me guess what also will be part of the lie , a two stream approval process .
One for companies which corrupt Italian politicians have a financial interests in who get approvals free and another for the general public who must pay the full cost of getting approval and who must get on the end of the line to access the one censorship officer , do n't worry waiting list will only be a few decades .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Fortunately it is also a idiot's doomed 'FAIL', video phone calls over VOIP any one, literally millions of videos being uploaded to the internet all the time.
Even if that were not the issue, how many people would need to be paid to view all those videos, each and every submission.
Let me guess what also will be part of the lie, a two stream approval process.
One for companies which corrupt Italian politicians have a financial interests in who get approvals free and another for the general public who must pay the full cost of getting approval and who must get on the end of the line to access the one censorship officer, don't worry waiting list will only be a few decades.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2140218.30793594</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2140218.30793580</id>
	<title>Italian Booty</title>
	<author>Blasphemy</author>
	<datestamp>1263640200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I get the distinct impression will be seeing a surge in Italian YouTube videos with a "Screw you, Berlusconi" theme.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I get the distinct impression will be seeing a surge in Italian YouTube videos with a " Screw you , Berlusconi " theme .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I get the distinct impression will be seeing a surge in Italian YouTube videos with a "Screw you, Berlusconi" theme.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2140218.30793806</id>
	<title>Re:This is not new in Italy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263641580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There are also requirements for <a href="http://goatse.fr/" title="goatse.fr" rel="nofollow">niggers, gays and trolls</a> [goatse.fr] to obtain written permission before posting or trolling on the Internet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There are also requirements for niggers , gays and trolls [ goatse.fr ] to obtain written permission before posting or trolling on the Internet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are also requirements for niggers, gays and trolls [goatse.fr] to obtain written permission before posting or trolling on the Internet.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2140218.30797738</id>
	<title>Re:Constitution, People!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263738360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>the Supreme Court would just strike it down.</p></div><p>Well, that's the theory, anyway.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>the Supreme Court would just strike it down.Well , that 's the theory , anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the Supreme Court would just strike it down.Well, that's the theory, anyway.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2140218.30794818</id>
	<title>Re:Italy isn't a good place.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263648720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I live in Italy, you insensitive clod!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I live in Italy , you insensitive clod !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I live in Italy, you insensitive clod!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2140218.30794540</id>
	<title>Re:This is not new in Italy</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1263646560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hmm, and I thought, more like... 70 years ago...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hmm , and I thought , more like... 70 years ago.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hmm, and I thought, more like... 70 years ago...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2140218.30794308</id>
	<title>Canada has similar laws</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263644760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>On YouTube is a regular poster. He drives around on his farm and does crazy things in cars. Jumping over things etc. Friends come over and do the same. They post the videos to YouTube.
<br> <br>
Local authoritys have said he needs a "Movie Studios Licence". His property have been raided. He currently is posting videos from his house mostly these days.
<br> <br>
I should add he has a conviction of a sexual nature against a child back in the 80's, so the motivation of autorities might be on that.
<br> <br>
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/Davidsfarm" title="youtube.com">http://www.youtube.com/user/Davidsfarm</a> [youtube.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>On YouTube is a regular poster .
He drives around on his farm and does crazy things in cars .
Jumping over things etc .
Friends come over and do the same .
They post the videos to YouTube .
Local authoritys have said he needs a " Movie Studios Licence " .
His property have been raided .
He currently is posting videos from his house mostly these days .
I should add he has a conviction of a sexual nature against a child back in the 80 's , so the motivation of autorities might be on that .
http : //www.youtube.com/user/Davidsfarm [ youtube.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On YouTube is a regular poster.
He drives around on his farm and does crazy things in cars.
Jumping over things etc.
Friends come over and do the same.
They post the videos to YouTube.
Local authoritys have said he needs a "Movie Studios Licence".
His property have been raided.
He currently is posting videos from his house mostly these days.
I should add he has a conviction of a sexual nature against a child back in the 80's, so the motivation of autorities might be on that.
http://www.youtube.com/user/Davidsfarm [youtube.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2140218.30793712</id>
	<title>Italy isn't a good place.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263640980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Most people don't realize it but Italy is a totalitarian regime that pretends to be parliamentary. Most communications in the country are censored and/or overtly political.  Also the police (who are much more like a military  than even in the states) have the power to collect fines on the spot.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Most people do n't realize it but Italy is a totalitarian regime that pretends to be parliamentary .
Most communications in the country are censored and/or overtly political .
Also the police ( who are much more like a military than even in the states ) have the power to collect fines on the spot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most people don't realize it but Italy is a totalitarian regime that pretends to be parliamentary.
Most communications in the country are censored and/or overtly political.
Also the police (who are much more like a military  than even in the states) have the power to collect fines on the spot.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2140218.30796830</id>
	<title>from an italian perspective</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263721920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>i'm italian. posting AC for obvious reasons.<br>i can tell you that's funny that they are now seeking for an authorization for internet's videos "similar to that required by television broadcasters" when one of the three tv channel of berlusconi himself doesn't have the permission to broadcast. in fact, that channel is illegally occupying frequencies already assigned to a new competitor in the italian's tv market that can't broadcast because of this. i'm not so much up to date, but the European Union (god bless them to try something against our dictator) already gave us a multi-million euros fine for that.</p><p>just for the record, the italian tv system look like this:<br>analog transmission: 3 public channels (controlled by the parliament, so by mr. berlusconi) with an average 50\% share, 3 berlusconi channels with an average 45\% share, and 2 channel owned by the local telco giant (about 5\%), one of which broadcast the local mtv.<br>dvb-t: still not everywhere in italy. 3-4 more public channels, other 2 free-to-air and 10 pay-per-view of berlusconi, 1 of murdoch's sky, bbc world, france 24, and almost nothing else apart from a couple of local tv stations airing mainly commercials.<br>satellite: only murdoch himself. also, if you count that the average income is 1200-1300&euro;/month and the cost for the subscription to the satellite tv is from 45&euro;/month, you understand that the average joe can't afford this.</p><p>and remember: when you say that mr. berlusconi was elected so is how democracy works and bla bla bla, keep in mind this fact: when you sum up his control over the televisions and the control over the press (where he controls different newspapers and magazines directly and a lot more indirectly, mainly by \_controlling the advertising\_) you know how is it possible that a man bound with mafia can win an election. the majority of people in italy are brainwashed and for them is ok that a man had a mafia killer as groom (vittorio mangano) and as co-founder of his party a man strictly tied with mafia (a mafioso himself, i would say: marcello dell'utri). note: berlusconi and dell'utri said that vittorio mangano was a "HERO", long after he died and where everything about him was know. YES! they said that a mafioso killer is a HERO!</p><p>also, berlusconi did some illegal wiretapping with men at the lead of the our telco giant (the one with the others two tv channels<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:blink-blink:) and now he pose the state secret on that stuff so they can't prosecute him or the men that did this for him.</p><p>if you count that a lot of opposition to berlusconi comes from the video blogs of beppe grillo, marco travaglio, piero ricca and others, you understand how much in trouble we are. (well, actually they go against everybody, but berlusconi is so dominant in the italian scenario that he takes 90\% of the time)</p><p>now, can you understand that Italy is FUBAR?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>i 'm italian .
posting AC for obvious reasons.i can tell you that 's funny that they are now seeking for an authorization for internet 's videos " similar to that required by television broadcasters " when one of the three tv channel of berlusconi himself does n't have the permission to broadcast .
in fact , that channel is illegally occupying frequencies already assigned to a new competitor in the italian 's tv market that ca n't broadcast because of this .
i 'm not so much up to date , but the European Union ( god bless them to try something against our dictator ) already gave us a multi-million euros fine for that.just for the record , the italian tv system look like this : analog transmission : 3 public channels ( controlled by the parliament , so by mr. berlusconi ) with an average 50 \ % share , 3 berlusconi channels with an average 45 \ % share , and 2 channel owned by the local telco giant ( about 5 \ % ) , one of which broadcast the local mtv.dvb-t : still not everywhere in italy .
3-4 more public channels , other 2 free-to-air and 10 pay-per-view of berlusconi , 1 of murdoch 's sky , bbc world , france 24 , and almost nothing else apart from a couple of local tv stations airing mainly commercials.satellite : only murdoch himself .
also , if you count that the average income is 1200-1300    /month and the cost for the subscription to the satellite tv is from 45    /month , you understand that the average joe ca n't afford this.and remember : when you say that mr. berlusconi was elected so is how democracy works and bla bla bla , keep in mind this fact : when you sum up his control over the televisions and the control over the press ( where he controls different newspapers and magazines directly and a lot more indirectly , mainly by \ _controlling the advertising \ _ ) you know how is it possible that a man bound with mafia can win an election .
the majority of people in italy are brainwashed and for them is ok that a man had a mafia killer as groom ( vittorio mangano ) and as co-founder of his party a man strictly tied with mafia ( a mafioso himself , i would say : marcello dell'utri ) .
note : berlusconi and dell'utri said that vittorio mangano was a " HERO " , long after he died and where everything about him was know .
YES ! they said that a mafioso killer is a HERO ! also , berlusconi did some illegal wiretapping with men at the lead of the our telco giant ( the one with the others two tv channels : blink-blink : ) and now he pose the state secret on that stuff so they ca n't prosecute him or the men that did this for him.if you count that a lot of opposition to berlusconi comes from the video blogs of beppe grillo , marco travaglio , piero ricca and others , you understand how much in trouble we are .
( well , actually they go against everybody , but berlusconi is so dominant in the italian scenario that he takes 90 \ % of the time ) now , can you understand that Italy is FUBAR ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i'm italian.
posting AC for obvious reasons.i can tell you that's funny that they are now seeking for an authorization for internet's videos "similar to that required by television broadcasters" when one of the three tv channel of berlusconi himself doesn't have the permission to broadcast.
in fact, that channel is illegally occupying frequencies already assigned to a new competitor in the italian's tv market that can't broadcast because of this.
i'm not so much up to date, but the European Union (god bless them to try something against our dictator) already gave us a multi-million euros fine for that.just for the record, the italian tv system look like this:analog transmission: 3 public channels (controlled by the parliament, so by mr. berlusconi) with an average 50\% share, 3 berlusconi channels with an average 45\% share, and 2 channel owned by the local telco giant (about 5\%), one of which broadcast the local mtv.dvb-t: still not everywhere in italy.
3-4 more public channels, other 2 free-to-air and 10 pay-per-view of berlusconi, 1 of murdoch's sky, bbc world, france 24, and almost nothing else apart from a couple of local tv stations airing mainly commercials.satellite: only murdoch himself.
also, if you count that the average income is 1200-1300€/month and the cost for the subscription to the satellite tv is from 45€/month, you understand that the average joe can't afford this.and remember: when you say that mr. berlusconi was elected so is how democracy works and bla bla bla, keep in mind this fact: when you sum up his control over the televisions and the control over the press (where he controls different newspapers and magazines directly and a lot more indirectly, mainly by \_controlling the advertising\_) you know how is it possible that a man bound with mafia can win an election.
the majority of people in italy are brainwashed and for them is ok that a man had a mafia killer as groom (vittorio mangano) and as co-founder of his party a man strictly tied with mafia (a mafioso himself, i would say: marcello dell'utri).
note: berlusconi and dell'utri said that vittorio mangano was a "HERO", long after he died and where everything about him was know.
YES! they said that a mafioso killer is a HERO!also, berlusconi did some illegal wiretapping with men at the lead of the our telco giant (the one with the others two tv channels :blink-blink:) and now he pose the state secret on that stuff so they can't prosecute him or the men that did this for him.if you count that a lot of opposition to berlusconi comes from the video blogs of beppe grillo, marco travaglio, piero ricca and others, you understand how much in trouble we are.
(well, actually they go against everybody, but berlusconi is so dominant in the italian scenario that he takes 90\% of the time)now, can you understand that Italy is FUBAR?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2140218.30793604</id>
	<title>I need bureaucracy!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263640260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's things like this that make me lament the US giving up any shred of control of the Internet and related systems to the international community.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's things like this that make me lament the US giving up any shred of control of the Internet and related systems to the international community .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's things like this that make me lament the US giving up any shred of control of the Internet and related systems to the international community.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2140218.30800260</id>
	<title>Re:Fascism 2.0</title>
	<author>couchslug</author>
	<datestamp>1263759480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Let's remember why Mussolini was so popular (among other things, he had the will to attack the Mafia with harsh methods) and why the Italian people fought on the side of the Axis. Seeing him through the lens of Allied propaganda is not accurate.</p><p>Being beaten then opportunistically switching sides in 1943 isn't quite the same thing as a profound social repudiation of Fascism. Those who were on the Left never liked it, but it was quite compatible with the rest of Italian society including the Vatican, whose (amply documented, see "Operation Ratline") efforts even extended to protecting fugitive Nazi war criminals after WWII ended. The Pope was also buddies with the delightful Ante Pavelic, even granting him an audience. The Catholic Church is fundamentally Italian, and so are its actions.</p><p><a href="http://libcom.org/library/role-catholic-church-yugoslavias-holocaust-se-n-mac-math-na-1941-1945" title="libcom.org">http://libcom.org/library/role-catholic-church-yugoslavias-holocaust-se-n-mac-math-na-1941-1945</a> [libcom.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Let 's remember why Mussolini was so popular ( among other things , he had the will to attack the Mafia with harsh methods ) and why the Italian people fought on the side of the Axis .
Seeing him through the lens of Allied propaganda is not accurate.Being beaten then opportunistically switching sides in 1943 is n't quite the same thing as a profound social repudiation of Fascism .
Those who were on the Left never liked it , but it was quite compatible with the rest of Italian society including the Vatican , whose ( amply documented , see " Operation Ratline " ) efforts even extended to protecting fugitive Nazi war criminals after WWII ended .
The Pope was also buddies with the delightful Ante Pavelic , even granting him an audience .
The Catholic Church is fundamentally Italian , and so are its actions.http : //libcom.org/library/role-catholic-church-yugoslavias-holocaust-se-n-mac-math-na-1941-1945 [ libcom.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let's remember why Mussolini was so popular (among other things, he had the will to attack the Mafia with harsh methods) and why the Italian people fought on the side of the Axis.
Seeing him through the lens of Allied propaganda is not accurate.Being beaten then opportunistically switching sides in 1943 isn't quite the same thing as a profound social repudiation of Fascism.
Those who were on the Left never liked it, but it was quite compatible with the rest of Italian society including the Vatican, whose (amply documented, see "Operation Ratline") efforts even extended to protecting fugitive Nazi war criminals after WWII ended.
The Pope was also buddies with the delightful Ante Pavelic, even granting him an audience.
The Catholic Church is fundamentally Italian, and so are its actions.http://libcom.org/library/role-catholic-church-yugoslavias-holocaust-se-n-mac-math-na-1941-1945 [libcom.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2140218.30794310</id>
	<title>Re:And yet, the italians keep voting for this guy</title>
	<author>DMiax</author>
	<datestamp>1263644760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What makes you think that in this semi-dictatorship a public ballot will make the votes for Berlusconi *decrease*?</htmltext>
<tokenext>What makes you think that in this semi-dictatorship a public ballot will make the votes for Berlusconi * decrease * ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What makes you think that in this semi-dictatorship a public ballot will make the votes for Berlusconi *decrease*?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2140218.30794858</id>
	<title>Not again</title>
	<author>shar303</author>
	<datestamp>1263649200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Anyone have an alabaster model of Milan cathedral handy?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Anyone have an alabaster model of Milan cathedral handy ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anyone have an alabaster model of Milan cathedral handy?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2140218.30793906</id>
	<title>And yet, the italians keep voting for this guy</title>
	<author>SmallFurryCreature</author>
	<datestamp>1263642060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Amazing, bread and circuses, it still works after 2000+ years.
</p><p>It may become time to end the secret ballot. Else we keep getting people like this elected because people vote for their wallets thinking everyone else will save their freedom.
</p><p>Democracy is the worsed system except for all the others is a common bit of dogma, I think it has made us lazy. Keep us from trying to find something better. Because democracy sure as hell doesn't seem to be working anymore.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Amazing , bread and circuses , it still works after 2000 + years .
It may become time to end the secret ballot .
Else we keep getting people like this elected because people vote for their wallets thinking everyone else will save their freedom .
Democracy is the worsed system except for all the others is a common bit of dogma , I think it has made us lazy .
Keep us from trying to find something better .
Because democracy sure as hell does n't seem to be working anymore .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Amazing, bread and circuses, it still works after 2000+ years.
It may become time to end the secret ballot.
Else we keep getting people like this elected because people vote for their wallets thinking everyone else will save their freedom.
Democracy is the worsed system except for all the others is a common bit of dogma, I think it has made us lazy.
Keep us from trying to find something better.
Because democracy sure as hell doesn't seem to be working anymore.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2140218.30794034</id>
	<title>Thank goodness for German Amateurs</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263642960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If Italy cuts of my amateur pron, I'll have to make due with the Germans. Both rock the leather nicely, but Italian women tend to be sexier, not always, but most of the time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If Italy cuts of my amateur pron , I 'll have to make due with the Germans .
Both rock the leather nicely , but Italian women tend to be sexier , not always , but most of the time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If Italy cuts of my amateur pron, I'll have to make due with the Germans.
Both rock the leather nicely, but Italian women tend to be sexier, not always, but most of the time.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2140218.30793990</id>
	<title>Re:Italy isn't a good place.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263642600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If one doesn't live in Italy, there is no reason to care what Italians choose for themselves. The country has been a joke since before the Great War, the citizens choose their fate, and it's none of our business what they do to each other.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If one does n't live in Italy , there is no reason to care what Italians choose for themselves .
The country has been a joke since before the Great War , the citizens choose their fate , and it 's none of our business what they do to each other .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If one doesn't live in Italy, there is no reason to care what Italians choose for themselves.
The country has been a joke since before the Great War, the citizens choose their fate, and it's none of our business what they do to each other.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2140218.30796268</id>
	<title>Re:Italian Booty</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263667440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Someone should punch Berlusconi in the face! Oh, wait...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Someone should punch Berlusconi in the face !
Oh , wait.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Someone should punch Berlusconi in the face!
Oh, wait...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2140218.30794306</id>
	<title>Re:And yet, the italians keep voting for this guy</title>
	<author>cpscotti</author>
	<datestamp>1263644760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Amazing, bread and circuses, it still works after 2000+ years.
</p></div><p>Precisely.. it's just that it evolved into pasta and soccer.<br>
ps: I'm temporarily living in Italy and most Italians seem to be unaware or such things... <br>
Well.. every bar or Italian's house I get into has a tv with Mediaset (Berslusconi's privately owned network) on..<br>
Italy REALLY looks like "Citizen Kane meets The Godfather"..</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Amazing , bread and circuses , it still works after 2000 + years .
Precisely.. it 's just that it evolved into pasta and soccer .
ps : I 'm temporarily living in Italy and most Italians seem to be unaware or such things.. . Well.. every bar or Italian 's house I get into has a tv with Mediaset ( Berslusconi 's privately owned network ) on. . Italy REALLY looks like " Citizen Kane meets The Godfather " . .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Amazing, bread and circuses, it still works after 2000+ years.
Precisely.. it's just that it evolved into pasta and soccer.
ps: I'm temporarily living in Italy and most Italians seem to be unaware or such things... 
Well.. every bar or Italian's house I get into has a tv with Mediaset (Berslusconi's privately owned network) on..
Italy REALLY looks like "Citizen Kane meets The Godfather"..
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2140218.30798564</id>
	<title>Re:Constitution, People!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263745620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Very funny, USA has a constitution but is toilet paper, you cannot enter the country by plane without renoucing your rights first for example.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Very funny , USA has a constitution but is toilet paper , you can not enter the country by plane without renoucing your rights first for example .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Very funny, USA has a constitution but is toilet paper, you cannot enter the country by plane without renoucing your rights first for example.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2140218.30794932</id>
	<title>Re:Constitution, People!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263650100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In Italy we have a very good Constitution.<br>However, for lack of a better word, it is being hacked.<br>It is being ignored/worked around/changed/reinterpreted as needed.</p><p>Remember how your USA's administration managed to reinterpret its ban on torture?</p><p>When enough power is concentrated, a piece of paper does not protect anyone<br>if there is not the will to actually protect, trust and stand by its principles.</p><p>For more info on the actual attack on internet freedom, see</p><p>http://www.beppegrillo.it/en/</p><p>"Attack on the Internet"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In Italy we have a very good Constitution.However , for lack of a better word , it is being hacked.It is being ignored/worked around/changed/reinterpreted as needed.Remember how your USA 's administration managed to reinterpret its ban on torture ? When enough power is concentrated , a piece of paper does not protect anyoneif there is not the will to actually protect , trust and stand by its principles.For more info on the actual attack on internet freedom , seehttp : //www.beppegrillo.it/en/ " Attack on the Internet "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In Italy we have a very good Constitution.However, for lack of a better word, it is being hacked.It is being ignored/worked around/changed/reinterpreted as needed.Remember how your USA's administration managed to reinterpret its ban on torture?When enough power is concentrated, a piece of paper does not protect anyoneif there is not the will to actually protect, trust and stand by its principles.For more info on the actual attack on internet freedom, seehttp://www.beppegrillo.it/en/"Attack on the Internet"</sentencetext>
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	<title>Youtube isnt everything</title>
	<author>gmuslera</author>
	<datestamp>1263642840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>p2p will be a problem, even if what is being transfered is legal. What if i.e. a linux distribution includes a package with demo video of something... that linux distribution will be forbidden to be transfered using bittorrent or required a bunch of permissions for that?<br><br>Same with videochat, i.e. skype, googletalk and others.<br><br>Wonder if the selling of webcams will have some kind of requirement, like signing something. Because with this you will not be able to turn them on without getting a permission.</htmltext>
<tokenext>p2p will be a problem , even if what is being transfered is legal .
What if i.e .
a linux distribution includes a package with demo video of something... that linux distribution will be forbidden to be transfered using bittorrent or required a bunch of permissions for that ? Same with videochat , i.e .
skype , googletalk and others.Wonder if the selling of webcams will have some kind of requirement , like signing something .
Because with this you will not be able to turn them on without getting a permission .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>p2p will be a problem, even if what is being transfered is legal.
What if i.e.
a linux distribution includes a package with demo video of something... that linux distribution will be forbidden to be transfered using bittorrent or required a bunch of permissions for that?Same with videochat, i.e.
skype, googletalk and others.Wonder if the selling of webcams will have some kind of requirement, like signing something.
Because with this you will not be able to turn them on without getting a permission.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Italy isn't a good place.</title>
	<author>curious.corn</author>
	<datestamp>1263727500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, I'm not worried about collection of fines on the spot (which I have never seen BTW). What concerns me most about Italian police is that it is particularly brutal, violent and tends to attract fascist nostalgics in its ranks; mainly because they are trained on a weekly basis to repress football ultra crowds...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , I 'm not worried about collection of fines on the spot ( which I have never seen BTW ) .
What concerns me most about Italian police is that it is particularly brutal , violent and tends to attract fascist nostalgics in its ranks ; mainly because they are trained on a weekly basis to repress football ultra crowds.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, I'm not worried about collection of fines on the spot (which I have never seen BTW).
What concerns me most about Italian police is that it is particularly brutal, violent and tends to attract fascist nostalgics in its ranks; mainly because they are trained on a weekly basis to repress football ultra crowds...</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:That's insane</title>
	<author>Kikuchi</author>
	<datestamp>1263645780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think people who uploads videos of their cat on youtube aren't the one who gonna be affected by this law.

Italian government obviously doesn't intend to apply this law thoroughly but rather pop it out from nowhere when they'll need to apply censure.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think people who uploads videos of their cat on youtube are n't the one who gon na be affected by this law .
Italian government obviously does n't intend to apply this law thoroughly but rather pop it out from nowhere when they 'll need to apply censure .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think people who uploads videos of their cat on youtube aren't the one who gonna be affected by this law.
Italian government obviously doesn't intend to apply this law thoroughly but rather pop it out from nowhere when they'll need to apply censure.</sentencetext>
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