<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_01_16_2122228</id>
	<title>Sandy, Utah Tops US Cities For Broadband Speed</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1263633960000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>darthcamaro writes <i>"If you want to live in the city with the fastest average broadband connection speed in the US, you have to move to Utah. According to Akamai's latest State of the Internet Report, <a href="http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/netsys/article.php/3859001/Want-Fast-Broadband-Move-to-Utah.htm">Sandy, Utah is at the top of the list</a> for US cities with the fastest average broadband speeds, with an average connection speed of 33,464 Kbps (33.5 Mbps). Overall in the US, the average broadband connection speed in the third quarter of 2009 came in at 3.9 Mbps, down by 2.4 percent on a year-over-year basis, but that's not a major cause for concern in Akamai's view. 'The overall year-over-year decline in the US average connection speed was relatively minor,' report author David Belson, director of market intelligence at Akamai Technologies said. 'The larger year-over-year sample base may have contributed to the decline, especially as mobile usage grows.'"</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>darthcamaro writes " If you want to live in the city with the fastest average broadband connection speed in the US , you have to move to Utah .
According to Akamai 's latest State of the Internet Report , Sandy , Utah is at the top of the list for US cities with the fastest average broadband speeds , with an average connection speed of 33,464 Kbps ( 33.5 Mbps ) .
Overall in the US , the average broadband connection speed in the third quarter of 2009 came in at 3.9 Mbps , down by 2.4 percent on a year-over-year basis , but that 's not a major cause for concern in Akamai 's view .
'The overall year-over-year decline in the US average connection speed was relatively minor, ' report author David Belson , director of market intelligence at Akamai Technologies said .
'The larger year-over-year sample base may have contributed to the decline , especially as mobile usage grows .
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<sentencetext>darthcamaro writes "If you want to live in the city with the fastest average broadband connection speed in the US, you have to move to Utah.
According to Akamai's latest State of the Internet Report, Sandy, Utah is at the top of the list for US cities with the fastest average broadband speeds, with an average connection speed of 33,464 Kbps (33.5 Mbps).
Overall in the US, the average broadband connection speed in the third quarter of 2009 came in at 3.9 Mbps, down by 2.4 percent on a year-over-year basis, but that's not a major cause for concern in Akamai's view.
'The overall year-over-year decline in the US average connection speed was relatively minor,' report author David Belson, director of market intelligence at Akamai Technologies said.
'The larger year-over-year sample base may have contributed to the decline, especially as mobile usage grows.
'"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2122228.30793608</id>
	<title>Re:Who cares about speed?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263640320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Considering sports is a leading driver to HDTV adoption, with the "average" being 3.9Mbps, and a good advice of 20\% or more headroom for streaming reliably, I'd say that at least half of broadband users wouldn't be able to stream even a 720p stream reliably at any decent quality, let alone the 10-15Mbps stream needed for a good 1080p.  I usually do my DVD quality archives at around 3Mbps, for 720p usually 5Mbps is started to be okay, and for 1080, you really want at least 10Mbps.  I'd say that to be honest anything slower than 10Mbps should be required to advertise as "Low-Speed Broadband" if it isn't "Dial Up".  Anything faster they can call whatever they want.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Considering sports is a leading driver to HDTV adoption , with the " average " being 3.9Mbps , and a good advice of 20 \ % or more headroom for streaming reliably , I 'd say that at least half of broadband users would n't be able to stream even a 720p stream reliably at any decent quality , let alone the 10-15Mbps stream needed for a good 1080p .
I usually do my DVD quality archives at around 3Mbps , for 720p usually 5Mbps is started to be okay , and for 1080 , you really want at least 10Mbps .
I 'd say that to be honest anything slower than 10Mbps should be required to advertise as " Low-Speed Broadband " if it is n't " Dial Up " .
Anything faster they can call whatever they want .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Considering sports is a leading driver to HDTV adoption, with the "average" being 3.9Mbps, and a good advice of 20\% or more headroom for streaming reliably, I'd say that at least half of broadband users wouldn't be able to stream even a 720p stream reliably at any decent quality, let alone the 10-15Mbps stream needed for a good 1080p.
I usually do my DVD quality archives at around 3Mbps, for 720p usually 5Mbps is started to be okay, and for 1080, you really want at least 10Mbps.
I'd say that to be honest anything slower than 10Mbps should be required to advertise as "Low-Speed Broadband" if it isn't "Dial Up".
Anything faster they can call whatever they want.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2122228.30793716</id>
	<title>Re:Average is 33 megabits .... from who?</title>
	<author>Shadow-isoHunt</author>
	<datestamp>1263640980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I used to live in Sandy. Comcast offers a 20mbit plan, and you can get a 100mbit link from xmission.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I used to live in Sandy .
Comcast offers a 20mbit plan , and you can get a 100mbit link from xmission .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I used to live in Sandy.
Comcast offers a 20mbit plan, and you can get a 100mbit link from xmission.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2122228.30793252</id>
	<title>Meanwhile...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263637800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...the 95+\% of the world that DOESN'T live in the US yawns and goes back to surfing at higher speeds.</p><p>Seriously, can we please try to remember that this Internet thing is a global medium?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...the 95 + \ % of the world that DOES N'T live in the US yawns and goes back to surfing at higher speeds.Seriously , can we please try to remember that this Internet thing is a global medium ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...the 95+\% of the world that DOESN'T live in the US yawns and goes back to surfing at higher speeds.Seriously, can we please try to remember that this Internet thing is a global medium?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2122228.30795950</id>
	<title>Re:Meanwhile...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263662040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wait a minute, let me get this straight, so what you're
saying is that the Ameri-hate brigade has descended so far
into fantasy land as to actually expect somebody to believe
that 95 percent of the population of the earth enjoys
internet speeds greater than 30 Mbps?  Really?  <i>Really??</i> </p><p>

Please allow me to be the first one to point out that that
is absolute unadulterated bullshit.  And furthermore, nobody
gives a fuck about
whatever turd-world buttfuckistan shithole you live in either,
motherfucker.  Last I checked the FAQ for this site, it's
run by Americans, read mostly by Americans and a good
percentage of the stories have something to do with America.
Personally I care about the fastest 'net speeds in the
United States.  If you don't, bitch, don't read the fucking
story.  There's a whole front page of stories talking
about other things.  So, fuck off.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wait a minute , let me get this straight , so what you 're saying is that the Ameri-hate brigade has descended so far into fantasy land as to actually expect somebody to believe that 95 percent of the population of the earth enjoys internet speeds greater than 30 Mbps ?
Really ? Really ? ?
Please allow me to be the first one to point out that that is absolute unadulterated bullshit .
And furthermore , nobody gives a fuck about whatever turd-world buttfuckistan shithole you live in either , motherfucker .
Last I checked the FAQ for this site , it 's run by Americans , read mostly by Americans and a good percentage of the stories have something to do with America .
Personally I care about the fastest 'net speeds in the United States .
If you do n't , bitch , do n't read the fucking story .
There 's a whole front page of stories talking about other things .
So , fuck off .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wait a minute, let me get this straight, so what you're
saying is that the Ameri-hate brigade has descended so far
into fantasy land as to actually expect somebody to believe
that 95 percent of the population of the earth enjoys
internet speeds greater than 30 Mbps?
Really?  Really??
Please allow me to be the first one to point out that that
is absolute unadulterated bullshit.
And furthermore, nobody
gives a fuck about
whatever turd-world buttfuckistan shithole you live in either,
motherfucker.
Last I checked the FAQ for this site, it's
run by Americans, read mostly by Americans and a good
percentage of the stories have something to do with America.
Personally I care about the fastest 'net speeds in the
United States.
If you don't, bitch, don't read the fucking
story.
There's a whole front page of stories talking
about other things.
So, fuck off.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2122228.30796840</id>
	<title>Re:Who cares about speed?</title>
	<author>Wildclaw</author>
	<datestamp>1263722100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>but unless you're torrenting, what does your top speed really matter?</p></div><p>If you are torrenting, you care even less about speed. That is because if you use torrents, your internet speed is measured by the formula MIN(upload, download) while business/government interests that don't like citizens to communicate with each other use the formula MAX(upload,download).</p><p>Basically, someone using torrents is more interested in the balance between upload and download, while what is being pushed by massmedia is huge download with little to no upload capacity.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>but unless you 're torrenting , what does your top speed really matter ? If you are torrenting , you care even less about speed .
That is because if you use torrents , your internet speed is measured by the formula MIN ( upload , download ) while business/government interests that do n't like citizens to communicate with each other use the formula MAX ( upload,download ) .Basically , someone using torrents is more interested in the balance between upload and download , while what is being pushed by massmedia is huge download with little to no upload capacity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>but unless you're torrenting, what does your top speed really matter?If you are torrenting, you care even less about speed.
That is because if you use torrents, your internet speed is measured by the formula MIN(upload, download) while business/government interests that don't like citizens to communicate with each other use the formula MAX(upload,download).Basically, someone using torrents is more interested in the balance between upload and download, while what is being pushed by massmedia is huge download with little to no upload capacity.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2122228.30793328</id>
	<title>Average is 33 megabits .... from who?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263638460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I googled for ISPs in sandy, utah and found the regular players offering 3mbs...</p><p>How is the average 33 megabits? Where are all these people getting &gt; 33mbit service? Verizon didn't seem to offer fios with the addresses in sandy utah i plugged in.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I googled for ISPs in sandy , utah and found the regular players offering 3mbs...How is the average 33 megabits ?
Where are all these people getting &gt; 33mbit service ?
Verizon did n't seem to offer fios with the addresses in sandy utah i plugged in .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I googled for ISPs in sandy, utah and found the regular players offering 3mbs...How is the average 33 megabits?
Where are all these people getting &gt; 33mbit service?
Verizon didn't seem to offer fios with the addresses in sandy utah i plugged in.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2122228.30793574</id>
	<title>They have to...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263640080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>have high speeds for the frequency they use dating sites even after they're married.</p><p>I know, I know, -1 Flamebait. Just subscribing to the ignorant Mormon stereotype.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>have high speeds for the frequency they use dating sites even after they 're married.I know , I know , -1 Flamebait .
Just subscribing to the ignorant Mormon stereotype .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>have high speeds for the frequency they use dating sites even after they're married.I know, I know, -1 Flamebait.
Just subscribing to the ignorant Mormon stereotype.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2122228.30794004</id>
	<title>Confusion about the reported numbers</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263642720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think the submitter means 32.6 megabits, as there are 1024 kilobits in a megabit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think the submitter means 32.6 megabits , as there are 1024 kilobits in a megabit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think the submitter means 32.6 megabits, as there are 1024 kilobits in a megabit.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2122228.30796596</id>
	<title>I doubt this</title>
	<author>Hachima</author>
	<datestamp>1263760320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I live in Sandy, UT and the ONLY way to get over 22Mbps is to get Comcast's Extreme 50/10 package which is over $100 a month and it only became available 3 weeks ago.  While the median income here is 80k/ year and plenty of people can afford it, I doubt 50\% of the 100k people here upgraded to that package in the last 3 weeks.

In Sandy, Comcast has 3 subnets you can get assigned to.  One of them would only result in 40/6 speedtest results and would never result in uploads over 7.5Mbps. While connections through another gateway would result in 62/12 results.  So I changed the Mac address on router until I got connected to the good network.  So I've run a few hundred speed tests in the last week.  I'm sure others have recently upgraded have been running many speed tests too. As they trouble shoot why they aren't getting the full speed listed they will run even more tests than normal.  Which has screwed up the "Average" for results in the area I'm sure.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I live in Sandy , UT and the ONLY way to get over 22Mbps is to get Comcast 's Extreme 50/10 package which is over $ 100 a month and it only became available 3 weeks ago .
While the median income here is 80k/ year and plenty of people can afford it , I doubt 50 \ % of the 100k people here upgraded to that package in the last 3 weeks .
In Sandy , Comcast has 3 subnets you can get assigned to .
One of them would only result in 40/6 speedtest results and would never result in uploads over 7.5Mbps .
While connections through another gateway would result in 62/12 results .
So I changed the Mac address on router until I got connected to the good network .
So I 've run a few hundred speed tests in the last week .
I 'm sure others have recently upgraded have been running many speed tests too .
As they trouble shoot why they are n't getting the full speed listed they will run even more tests than normal .
Which has screwed up the " Average " for results in the area I 'm sure .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I live in Sandy, UT and the ONLY way to get over 22Mbps is to get Comcast's Extreme 50/10 package which is over $100 a month and it only became available 3 weeks ago.
While the median income here is 80k/ year and plenty of people can afford it, I doubt 50\% of the 100k people here upgraded to that package in the last 3 weeks.
In Sandy, Comcast has 3 subnets you can get assigned to.
One of them would only result in 40/6 speedtest results and would never result in uploads over 7.5Mbps.
While connections through another gateway would result in 62/12 results.
So I changed the Mac address on router until I got connected to the good network.
So I've run a few hundred speed tests in the last week.
I'm sure others have recently upgraded have been running many speed tests too.
As they trouble shoot why they aren't getting the full speed listed they will run even more tests than normal.
Which has screwed up the "Average" for results in the area I'm sure.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2122228.30794626</id>
	<title>Fastest speeds?</title>
	<author>noidentity</author>
	<datestamp>1263647040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>US cities with the fastest average broadband speeds</p></div>
</blockquote><p>Is that like having a speedometer for your speedometer, to see how fast your speed is?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>US cities with the fastest average broadband speeds Is that like having a speedometer for your speedometer , to see how fast your speed is ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>US cities with the fastest average broadband speeds
Is that like having a speedometer for your speedometer, to see how fast your speed is?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2122228.30794750</id>
	<title>Re:Who cares about speed?</title>
	<author>TheRaven64</author>
	<datestamp>1263648120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>My connection is 10Mb/s, while my mother's is 1Mb/s, so I got to see exactly what the difference was when I went home over christmas.  It really is noticeable.  For example, I read a few comics in the morning and I open them all in tabs when I wake up.  On my connection they can all load in parallel in a few seconds.  On hers, they load so slowly that usually one or two timed out.  I can stream iPlayer content in HD on my connection, while on hers the standard quality stuff drops frames.  Even downloading relatively small files (a few MBs) actually takes time, not much, but when you've become accustomed to them taking ten seconds, seeing them take over a minute seems incredibly slow.  A 10MB file takes a minute and a half instead of 8 seconds, and that's a big difference.</htmltext>
<tokenext>My connection is 10Mb/s , while my mother 's is 1Mb/s , so I got to see exactly what the difference was when I went home over christmas .
It really is noticeable .
For example , I read a few comics in the morning and I open them all in tabs when I wake up .
On my connection they can all load in parallel in a few seconds .
On hers , they load so slowly that usually one or two timed out .
I can stream iPlayer content in HD on my connection , while on hers the standard quality stuff drops frames .
Even downloading relatively small files ( a few MBs ) actually takes time , not much , but when you 've become accustomed to them taking ten seconds , seeing them take over a minute seems incredibly slow .
A 10MB file takes a minute and a half instead of 8 seconds , and that 's a big difference .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My connection is 10Mb/s, while my mother's is 1Mb/s, so I got to see exactly what the difference was when I went home over christmas.
It really is noticeable.
For example, I read a few comics in the morning and I open them all in tabs when I wake up.
On my connection they can all load in parallel in a few seconds.
On hers, they load so slowly that usually one or two timed out.
I can stream iPlayer content in HD on my connection, while on hers the standard quality stuff drops frames.
Even downloading relatively small files (a few MBs) actually takes time, not much, but when you've become accustomed to them taking ten seconds, seeing them take over a minute seems incredibly slow.
A 10MB file takes a minute and a half instead of 8 seconds, and that's a big difference.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2122228.30794786</id>
	<title>Re:Two things</title>
	<author>TheRaven64</author>
	<datestamp>1263648360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> There is nothing else to do in Utah</p> </div><p>Unless you <a href="http://www.utahbayou.com/node/6" title="utahbayou.com">like beer</a> [utahbayou.com], that is...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>There is nothing else to do in Utah Unless you like beer [ utahbayou.com ] , that is.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> There is nothing else to do in Utah Unless you like beer [utahbayou.com], that is...
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2122228.30797312</id>
	<title>You are wrong.</title>
	<author>RichiH</author>
	<datestamp>1263730800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; Seriously, once you get to 1 mbit, web browsing is about as good as it gets.</p><p>I have 1.360 Mbit/s downstream here. When opening more than one page at a time or when there is more than one person surfing, you notice delays. Pretty much everyone I know has at least 10 Mbit/s, most have 16 Mbit/s, at work, I have between 40 Mbit/s to 100 Mbit/s depending on usage and the server on the other side.</p><p>So, being able to compare the two on a daily basis, it \_does\_ matter.</p><p>PS: Obviously, bash.org loads faster than a picture-heavy site. If everyone were to surf with links, 1 Mbit/s would be plenty.</p><p>PPS: I don't do youtube and similar at all, let alone HD.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; Seriously , once you get to 1 mbit , web browsing is about as good as it gets.I have 1.360 Mbit/s downstream here .
When opening more than one page at a time or when there is more than one person surfing , you notice delays .
Pretty much everyone I know has at least 10 Mbit/s , most have 16 Mbit/s , at work , I have between 40 Mbit/s to 100 Mbit/s depending on usage and the server on the other side.So , being able to compare the two on a daily basis , it \ _does \ _ matter.PS : Obviously , bash.org loads faster than a picture-heavy site .
If everyone were to surf with links , 1 Mbit/s would be plenty.PPS : I do n't do youtube and similar at all , let alone HD .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; Seriously, once you get to 1 mbit, web browsing is about as good as it gets.I have 1.360 Mbit/s downstream here.
When opening more than one page at a time or when there is more than one person surfing, you notice delays.
Pretty much everyone I know has at least 10 Mbit/s, most have 16 Mbit/s, at work, I have between 40 Mbit/s to 100 Mbit/s depending on usage and the server on the other side.So, being able to compare the two on a daily basis, it \_does\_ matter.PS: Obviously, bash.org loads faster than a picture-heavy site.
If everyone were to surf with links, 1 Mbit/s would be plenty.PPS: I don't do youtube and similar at all, let alone HD.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2122228.30793732</id>
	<title>Re:Who cares about speed?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263641100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One would assume someone going by "ThreeGigs" would <i>want</i> a faster connection<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p><p>When I buy a new game on Steam, for example, I don't want to wait for the 7GB download on a 1Mbps connection.  (15.93 hours assuming I can saturate the connection.)  If I have a 12Mbps connection instead, I only have to wait 1.33 hours instead.</p><p>But even if you reject that use-case (and anything vaguely similar), try having a family with two adults and three kids, all using computers and TV-over-IP and VoIP, on a single 1Mbps connection, and tell me if 1Mbps is still acceptable.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One would assume someone going by " ThreeGigs " would want a faster connection ; ) When I buy a new game on Steam , for example , I do n't want to wait for the 7GB download on a 1Mbps connection .
( 15.93 hours assuming I can saturate the connection .
) If I have a 12Mbps connection instead , I only have to wait 1.33 hours instead.But even if you reject that use-case ( and anything vaguely similar ) , try having a family with two adults and three kids , all using computers and TV-over-IP and VoIP , on a single 1Mbps connection , and tell me if 1Mbps is still acceptable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One would assume someone going by "ThreeGigs" would want a faster connection ;)When I buy a new game on Steam, for example, I don't want to wait for the 7GB download on a 1Mbps connection.
(15.93 hours assuming I can saturate the connection.
)  If I have a 12Mbps connection instead, I only have to wait 1.33 hours instead.But even if you reject that use-case (and anything vaguely similar), try having a family with two adults and three kids, all using computers and TV-over-IP and VoIP, on a single 1Mbps connection, and tell me if 1Mbps is still acceptable.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2122228.30795322</id>
	<title>Akamai CDN location sampling accuracy</title>
	<author>butlerm</author>
	<datestamp>1263654420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As other commenters have noted, there is no way this figure applies to Sandy City proper.  Sandy does not have a UTOPIA deployment.  The real problem, though, is that the Salt Lake valley has a large number of relatively small cities all served by the same local ISPs, and there is no reliable way that Akamai can tell which users are in which local cities to that level of accuracy.  The IP addresses don't carry any more information than (roughly) somewhere in the Salt Lake valley. One would have to be in a different for that difference to start to be visible.</p><p>Salt Lake City proper isn't a UTOPIA city either, but there are several cities in the valley which are, notably West Valley City, Midvale, and Murray.  So what appears is that Akamai estimated the coverage footprint of a local content distribution node (probably the one at <a href="http://stats.xmission.com/routers/public/pages/akamai.html" title="xmission.com">Xmission</a> [xmission.com]) and estimated that the center of the footprint was in Sandy. Even though no one in Sandy City proper has that kind of bandwidth, people with UTOPIA connection (and there are many in the general vicinity) often do - 50 Mbit/s UTOPIA service is readily available, and inexpensively at that if you live in one of the original UTOPIA cities.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As other commenters have noted , there is no way this figure applies to Sandy City proper .
Sandy does not have a UTOPIA deployment .
The real problem , though , is that the Salt Lake valley has a large number of relatively small cities all served by the same local ISPs , and there is no reliable way that Akamai can tell which users are in which local cities to that level of accuracy .
The IP addresses do n't carry any more information than ( roughly ) somewhere in the Salt Lake valley .
One would have to be in a different for that difference to start to be visible.Salt Lake City proper is n't a UTOPIA city either , but there are several cities in the valley which are , notably West Valley City , Midvale , and Murray .
So what appears is that Akamai estimated the coverage footprint of a local content distribution node ( probably the one at Xmission [ xmission.com ] ) and estimated that the center of the footprint was in Sandy .
Even though no one in Sandy City proper has that kind of bandwidth , people with UTOPIA connection ( and there are many in the general vicinity ) often do - 50 Mbit/s UTOPIA service is readily available , and inexpensively at that if you live in one of the original UTOPIA cities .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As other commenters have noted, there is no way this figure applies to Sandy City proper.
Sandy does not have a UTOPIA deployment.
The real problem, though, is that the Salt Lake valley has a large number of relatively small cities all served by the same local ISPs, and there is no reliable way that Akamai can tell which users are in which local cities to that level of accuracy.
The IP addresses don't carry any more information than (roughly) somewhere in the Salt Lake valley.
One would have to be in a different for that difference to start to be visible.Salt Lake City proper isn't a UTOPIA city either, but there are several cities in the valley which are, notably West Valley City, Midvale, and Murray.
So what appears is that Akamai estimated the coverage footprint of a local content distribution node (probably the one at Xmission [xmission.com]) and estimated that the center of the footprint was in Sandy.
Even though no one in Sandy City proper has that kind of bandwidth, people with UTOPIA connection (and there are many in the general vicinity) often do - 50 Mbit/s UTOPIA service is readily available, and inexpensively at that if you live in one of the original UTOPIA cities.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2122228.30793400</id>
	<title>Sandy?</title>
	<author>Yvan256</author>
	<datestamp>1263639000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They got broadband connections in San D'oria? Damn you, Elvaans!</p><p>Signed, pissed off Bastokan.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They got broadband connections in San D'oria ?
Damn you , Elvaans ! Signed , pissed off Bastokan .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They got broadband connections in San D'oria?
Damn you, Elvaans!Signed, pissed off Bastokan.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2122228.30793348</id>
	<title>Two things</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263638580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1- There is nothing else to do in Utah<br>2- By now, they must be a virtual backup of all the pron on the net</p><p>p.s. I'm only kidding, I have never been there<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1- There is nothing else to do in Utah2- By now , they must be a virtual backup of all the pron on the netp.s .
I 'm only kidding , I have never been there ; - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1- There is nothing else to do in Utah2- By now, they must be a virtual backup of all the pron on the netp.s.
I'm only kidding, I have never been there ;-)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2122228.30793350</id>
	<title>Whats with calling these cities.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263638580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>There is no break between towns.  This is a home owners association with delusions of grandeure.  Unless the news is local, I dont care what part of a town something occured in, It's SLC good enough.  I dont want someone to say theyre from Marin because it's a more prestigeous part of the bay area. Or Arvada Colorado, Ft Worth Texas.<br>
Pick the most recognizable city in a 30 mile radius.. and go with it.<br>
I'm offtopic..  but SANDY, come on..</htmltext>
<tokenext>There is no break between towns .
This is a home owners association with delusions of grandeure .
Unless the news is local , I dont care what part of a town something occured in , It 's SLC good enough .
I dont want someone to say theyre from Marin because it 's a more prestigeous part of the bay area .
Or Arvada Colorado , Ft Worth Texas .
Pick the most recognizable city in a 30 mile radius.. and go with it .
I 'm offtopic.. but SANDY , come on. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is no break between towns.
This is a home owners association with delusions of grandeure.
Unless the news is local, I dont care what part of a town something occured in, It's SLC good enough.
I dont want someone to say theyre from Marin because it's a more prestigeous part of the bay area.
Or Arvada Colorado, Ft Worth Texas.
Pick the most recognizable city in a 30 mile radius.. and go with it.
I'm offtopic..  but SANDY, come on..</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2122228.30797334</id>
	<title>Did you actually, like, inform yourself?</title>
	<author>RichiH</author>
	<datestamp>1263730980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Reading the comments, on this page, of people who have \_lived there\_ I would say you are ranting without even the uttermost basic research.</p><p>Comcast offers 20 Mbit/s, xmission offers 100 Mbit/s.</p><p>PS: It's nice to see that you can get to +5 Informative on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. with no knowlegde about the topic at hand<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Reading the comments , on this page , of people who have \ _lived there \ _ I would say you are ranting without even the uttermost basic research.Comcast offers 20 Mbit/s , xmission offers 100 Mbit/s.PS : It 's nice to see that you can get to + 5 Informative on / .
with no knowlegde about the topic at hand ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Reading the comments, on this page, of people who have \_lived there\_ I would say you are ranting without even the uttermost basic research.Comcast offers 20 Mbit/s, xmission offers 100 Mbit/s.PS: It's nice to see that you can get to +5 Informative on /.
with no knowlegde about the topic at hand ;)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2122228.30793510</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2122228.30794980</id>
	<title>Re:Meanwhile...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263650520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Full of anonymous cowards that act like jerks?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Full of anonymous cowards that act like jerks ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Full of anonymous cowards that act like jerks?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2122228.30793252</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2122228.30794424</id>
	<title>I live in second place Iowa City...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263645660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Its listed at 27.4Mbits.  I have a Qwest fiber connection that's 20M/5M, they have a faster packages that offer 40M/5M and 40M/20M (or maybe its only 10M or 12M upload)  The only other option is Mediacom cable internet, I'm not sure if the limit there is 12M or 24M.</p><p>Either way, like the guy who has family and friends in Sandy, I don't just see where they are getting their numbers.  Even if every single Qwest subscriber in town was eligible for the fastest 40M speed (not all areas are covered) and subscribed to it, I'll bet the cable modem subscribers would drive down the average.</p><p>The only other thing I can think of is that students in the dorms, who are probably getting at least 100Mb ethernet, are skewing the average....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Its listed at 27.4Mbits .
I have a Qwest fiber connection that 's 20M/5M , they have a faster packages that offer 40M/5M and 40M/20M ( or maybe its only 10M or 12M upload ) The only other option is Mediacom cable internet , I 'm not sure if the limit there is 12M or 24M.Either way , like the guy who has family and friends in Sandy , I do n't just see where they are getting their numbers .
Even if every single Qwest subscriber in town was eligible for the fastest 40M speed ( not all areas are covered ) and subscribed to it , I 'll bet the cable modem subscribers would drive down the average.The only other thing I can think of is that students in the dorms , who are probably getting at least 100Mb ethernet , are skewing the average... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Its listed at 27.4Mbits.
I have a Qwest fiber connection that's 20M/5M, they have a faster packages that offer 40M/5M and 40M/20M (or maybe its only 10M or 12M upload)  The only other option is Mediacom cable internet, I'm not sure if the limit there is 12M or 24M.Either way, like the guy who has family and friends in Sandy, I don't just see where they are getting their numbers.
Even if every single Qwest subscriber in town was eligible for the fastest 40M speed (not all areas are covered) and subscribed to it, I'll bet the cable modem subscribers would drive down the average.The only other thing I can think of is that students in the dorms, who are probably getting at least 100Mb ethernet, are skewing the average....</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2122228.30793510</id>
	<title>Whoever came to that conclusion doesn't know shit</title>
	<author>rahvin112</author>
	<datestamp>1263639780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sandy Utah has two ISPs, Qwest and Comcast plus the occasionally available WISP. Not a single ISP in the Sandy area offers speeds in excess of Comcasts standard 16Mbs high end package. It's absurd that some article lists the average as 33.3Mbs as I don't know a single area where that speed is available and I live in the heart of Sandy. There is Metro Ethernet available at the cost of multiple thousands but no one outside large business has it.</p><p>This apparent study of internet speeds is worthless and it's conclusions garbage.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sandy Utah has two ISPs , Qwest and Comcast plus the occasionally available WISP .
Not a single ISP in the Sandy area offers speeds in excess of Comcasts standard 16Mbs high end package .
It 's absurd that some article lists the average as 33.3Mbs as I do n't know a single area where that speed is available and I live in the heart of Sandy .
There is Metro Ethernet available at the cost of multiple thousands but no one outside large business has it.This apparent study of internet speeds is worthless and it 's conclusions garbage .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sandy Utah has two ISPs, Qwest and Comcast plus the occasionally available WISP.
Not a single ISP in the Sandy area offers speeds in excess of Comcasts standard 16Mbs high end package.
It's absurd that some article lists the average as 33.3Mbs as I don't know a single area where that speed is available and I live in the heart of Sandy.
There is Metro Ethernet available at the cost of multiple thousands but no one outside large business has it.This apparent study of internet speeds is worthless and it's conclusions garbage.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2122228.30793782</id>
	<title>Re:Meanwhile...</title>
	<author>Arakun</author>
	<datestamp>1263641400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Then how about a recently published <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035\_3-10434930-94.html" title="cnet.com" rel="nofollow">top ten list of the countries with the fastest broad band</a> [cnet.com]?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Then how about a recently published top ten list of the countries with the fastest broad band [ cnet.com ] ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Then how about a recently published top ten list of the countries with the fastest broad band [cnet.com]?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2122228.30793252</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2122228.30794256</id>
	<title>Move to Utah!</title>
	<author>countertrolling</author>
	<datestamp>1263644460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And <i>please</i> vote Orrin Hatch out of office.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And please vote Orrin Hatch out of office .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And please vote Orrin Hatch out of office.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2122228.30793660</id>
	<title>Re:Average is 33 megabits .... from who?</title>
	<author>HeronBlademaster</author>
	<datestamp>1263640680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't have to google Sandy; my parents live there, as well as many of my friends.  I can't figure out where the number is coming from either.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't have to google Sandy ; my parents live there , as well as many of my friends .
I ca n't figure out where the number is coming from either .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't have to google Sandy; my parents live there, as well as many of my friends.
I can't figure out where the number is coming from either.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2122228.30793328</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2122228.30796654</id>
	<title>Ny Results</title>
	<author>dave87656</author>
	<datestamp>1263761340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I just tested my results (speedtest.net)</p><p>Download: 32MB<br>Upload: 1.8MB<br>Ping: 13ms</p><p>Your mileage may vary.</p><p>Here's the link: <a href="http://www.speedtest.net/result/685154620.png" title="speedtest.net">http://www.speedtest.net/result/685154620.png</a> [speedtest.net]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just tested my results ( speedtest.net ) Download : 32MBUpload : 1.8MBPing : 13msYour mileage may vary.Here 's the link : http : //www.speedtest.net/result/685154620.png [ speedtest.net ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just tested my results (speedtest.net)Download: 32MBUpload: 1.8MBPing: 13msYour mileage may vary.Here's the link: http://www.speedtest.net/result/685154620.png [speedtest.net]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2122228.30793322</id>
	<title>Nice in theory, but..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263638400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>On paper, perhaps.  Definitely not in practice.<br>I live in Sandy and have tried three (out of three available) different ISP's in three different houses, and have never been able to get anywhere near the quoted speeds I've been promised.  If the capability exists, we're all being throttled to death.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>On paper , perhaps .
Definitely not in practice.I live in Sandy and have tried three ( out of three available ) different ISP 's in three different houses , and have never been able to get anywhere near the quoted speeds I 've been promised .
If the capability exists , we 're all being throttled to death .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On paper, perhaps.
Definitely not in practice.I live in Sandy and have tried three (out of three available) different ISP's in three different houses, and have never been able to get anywhere near the quoted speeds I've been promised.
If the capability exists, we're all being throttled to death.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2122228.30795806</id>
	<title>Re:Meanwhile...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263659940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Several years ago before I started reading Slashdot, I
didn't have any particular feelings towards non-Americans
one way or the other.  Basically, you were people that
lived outside of my borders and you did your thing and I
did mine.  Woop-de-do, right? </p><p> Now that I've been reading
this site, sadly because of the utterly insufferable
douchebaggery of practically every comment directed
towards Americans and America I have read since being here,
I have developed a deep-seated seething hatred towards
the citizens of practically every other country on Earth.
  The amount of bigotry and poison spewed by the people here
particularly the European posters is disgusting.  I didn't
do anything to you or yours, I'm just living my life but
if you insist on hating me for something as inane as
the lump of dirt I was born on, then fuck you too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Several years ago before I started reading Slashdot , I did n't have any particular feelings towards non-Americans one way or the other .
Basically , you were people that lived outside of my borders and you did your thing and I did mine .
Woop-de-do , right ?
Now that I 've been reading this site , sadly because of the utterly insufferable douchebaggery of practically every comment directed towards Americans and America I have read since being here , I have developed a deep-seated seething hatred towards the citizens of practically every other country on Earth .
The amount of bigotry and poison spewed by the people here particularly the European posters is disgusting .
I did n't do anything to you or yours , I 'm just living my life but if you insist on hating me for something as inane as the lump of dirt I was born on , then fuck you too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Several years ago before I started reading Slashdot, I
didn't have any particular feelings towards non-Americans
one way or the other.
Basically, you were people that
lived outside of my borders and you did your thing and I
did mine.
Woop-de-do, right?
Now that I've been reading
this site, sadly because of the utterly insufferable
douchebaggery of practically every comment directed
towards Americans and America I have read since being here,
I have developed a deep-seated seething hatred towards
the citizens of practically every other country on Earth.
The amount of bigotry and poison spewed by the people here
particularly the European posters is disgusting.
I didn't
do anything to you or yours, I'm just living my life but
if you insist on hating me for something as inane as
the lump of dirt I was born on, then fuck you too.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2122228.30793252</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2122228.30793542</id>
	<title>That's wonderful news! Or, maybe not so much</title>
	<author>haruchai</author>
	<datestamp>1263639960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So, according to this article, the US, the lone superpower now has at least 7 cities that have surpassed<br>the average Japanese or South Korean village in broadband speed.</p><p>Pour me some champagne.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So , according to this article , the US , the lone superpower now has at least 7 cities that have surpassedthe average Japanese or South Korean village in broadband speed.Pour me some champagne .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, according to this article, the US, the lone superpower now has at least 7 cities that have surpassedthe average Japanese or South Korean village in broadband speed.Pour me some champagne.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2122228.30794058</id>
	<title>Palmface</title>
	<author>IgnoramusMaximus</author>
	<datestamp>1263643080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In the light of some people moderating my above post as "Informative", I find it necessary to get drunk senseless and to run naked around the neighborhood with a pair of log-periodic antennas as antlers, looking for 666Mb/s Wireless Internet reception. I will see you on the news later...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In the light of some people moderating my above post as " Informative " , I find it necessary to get drunk senseless and to run naked around the neighborhood with a pair of log-periodic antennas as antlers , looking for 666Mb/s Wireless Internet reception .
I will see you on the news later.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the light of some people moderating my above post as "Informative", I find it necessary to get drunk senseless and to run naked around the neighborhood with a pair of log-periodic antennas as antlers, looking for 666Mb/s Wireless Internet reception.
I will see you on the news later...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2122228.30793278</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2122228.30793420</id>
	<title>There's joke to be told...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263639120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... something about Mormons in Utah and high-speed pr0n. Just can't think of a good one...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... something about Mormons in Utah and high-speed pr0n .
Just ca n't think of a good one.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... something about Mormons in Utah and high-speed pr0n.
Just can't think of a good one...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2122228.30793466</id>
	<title>Correction</title>
	<author>sea4ever</author>
	<datestamp>1263639420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Correction, Sandy *had* the fastest speed. Sorry folks, they've just been slashdotted.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Correction , Sandy * had * the fastest speed .
Sorry folks , they 've just been slashdotted .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Correction, Sandy *had* the fastest speed.
Sorry folks, they've just been slashdotted.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2122228.30796236</id>
	<title>Sandy, or Saddly</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263667020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I though it was the latter at first.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I though it was the latter at first .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I though it was the latter at first.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2122228.30794228</id>
	<title>Re:Who cares about speed?</title>
	<author>BikeHelmet</author>
	<datestamp>1263644280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>4-5mbit is great, unless you have multiple people in your home.</p><p>Do you know how annoying it is playing games when people are watching Youtube or downloading email? Ping spikes from 65ms to 500ms. That's ignoring torrenting and the like.</p><p>I make do with 3mbit, because I like my DSL ISP and Cable blows here - but I really would jump on 12mbit if it was available. I download enough linux distros (FTP<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:P ) that I could use that extra downstream.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>4-5mbit is great , unless you have multiple people in your home.Do you know how annoying it is playing games when people are watching Youtube or downloading email ?
Ping spikes from 65ms to 500ms .
That 's ignoring torrenting and the like.I make do with 3mbit , because I like my DSL ISP and Cable blows here - but I really would jump on 12mbit if it was available .
I download enough linux distros ( FTP : P ) that I could use that extra downstream .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>4-5mbit is great, unless you have multiple people in your home.Do you know how annoying it is playing games when people are watching Youtube or downloading email?
Ping spikes from 65ms to 500ms.
That's ignoring torrenting and the like.I make do with 3mbit, because I like my DSL ISP and Cable blows here - but I really would jump on 12mbit if it was available.
I download enough linux distros (FTP :P ) that I could use that extra downstream.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2122228.30810446</id>
	<title>Re:Whoever came to that conclusion doesn't know sh</title>
	<author>nilbog</author>
	<datestamp>1263842280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Except Utopia, which offers last mile fiber to the home at 50mbps up 50 mbps down.  When I had Utopia in Orem, UT that particular connection cost $50/mo.</p><p>You don't buy a connection from Utopia though, you'll need to find a carrier in your neighborhood.  I'd try Xmission - because they're awesome.</p><p>Some of the other comments say that Utopia is not available in Sandy specifically, but that doesn't change the fact that Utah is home to the fastest available residential connections.  Sandy might just be the "average" location for those high speed connections, even though they don't offer Utopia themselves.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Except Utopia , which offers last mile fiber to the home at 50mbps up 50 mbps down .
When I had Utopia in Orem , UT that particular connection cost $ 50/mo.You do n't buy a connection from Utopia though , you 'll need to find a carrier in your neighborhood .
I 'd try Xmission - because they 're awesome.Some of the other comments say that Utopia is not available in Sandy specifically , but that does n't change the fact that Utah is home to the fastest available residential connections .
Sandy might just be the " average " location for those high speed connections , even though they do n't offer Utopia themselves .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Except Utopia, which offers last mile fiber to the home at 50mbps up 50 mbps down.
When I had Utopia in Orem, UT that particular connection cost $50/mo.You don't buy a connection from Utopia though, you'll need to find a carrier in your neighborhood.
I'd try Xmission - because they're awesome.Some of the other comments say that Utopia is not available in Sandy specifically, but that doesn't change the fact that Utah is home to the fastest available residential connections.
Sandy might just be the "average" location for those high speed connections, even though they don't offer Utopia themselves.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2122228.30793344</id>
	<title>Who cares about speed?</title>
	<author>ThreeGigs</author>
	<datestamp>1263638520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seriously, once you get to 1 mbit, web browsing is about as good as it gets. Like blinking twice as fast, you simply don't notice.<br>Unless you're into YouTube HD, in which case 4 mbit will be noticeable.  I get my television channels delivered on a 4~5 mbit connection. Now, I can see a reason for speed with online backups, etc., but unless you're torrenting, what does your top speed really matter?</p><p>You want a car analogy? Where's the metric on which country has the fastest average top-speed per capita? Does it really matter?</p><p>What I want to know is, exactly how many people could watch the Superbowl if it was ONLY delivered via the internet. Who cares how fast the last mile is if the web servers and backbone infrastructure are way, way, WAY oversubscribed?</p><p>It all just seems like a lot of to-do over something that's not so terribly important.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously , once you get to 1 mbit , web browsing is about as good as it gets .
Like blinking twice as fast , you simply do n't notice.Unless you 're into YouTube HD , in which case 4 mbit will be noticeable .
I get my television channels delivered on a 4 ~ 5 mbit connection .
Now , I can see a reason for speed with online backups , etc. , but unless you 're torrenting , what does your top speed really matter ? You want a car analogy ?
Where 's the metric on which country has the fastest average top-speed per capita ?
Does it really matter ? What I want to know is , exactly how many people could watch the Superbowl if it was ONLY delivered via the internet .
Who cares how fast the last mile is if the web servers and backbone infrastructure are way , way , WAY oversubscribed ? It all just seems like a lot of to-do over something that 's not so terribly important .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously, once you get to 1 mbit, web browsing is about as good as it gets.
Like blinking twice as fast, you simply don't notice.Unless you're into YouTube HD, in which case 4 mbit will be noticeable.
I get my television channels delivered on a 4~5 mbit connection.
Now, I can see a reason for speed with online backups, etc., but unless you're torrenting, what does your top speed really matter?You want a car analogy?
Where's the metric on which country has the fastest average top-speed per capita?
Does it really matter?What I want to know is, exactly how many people could watch the Superbowl if it was ONLY delivered via the internet.
Who cares how fast the last mile is if the web servers and backbone infrastructure are way, way, WAY oversubscribed?It all just seems like a lot of to-do over something that's not so terribly important.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2122228.30800524</id>
	<title>Deliberate Misinformation?</title>
	<author>witherstaff</author>
	<datestamp>1263761940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It wouldn't surprise me if this was deliberate misinformation. The FCC has been asking for submissions for their stimulus fund allotment of 7.5 billion for high speed internet across the states. A lot of people have been complaining about existing coverage, or  leaving comments like 'hey, let's also get the 200-300 billion the telco's have already gotten paid for broadband rollout but have failed to deliver'.  Now here comes a really good stat showing one city is well on its way to being true broadband.
</p><p>If I was a resident I would bitch to the FCC, congress critters, media, anyone I could think of about this. Any chance of stimulus funds for broadband have disappeared with this study. Also the local telco can chalk this area up as a 'broadband delivered' area.</p><p>Just a theory but with the dollar figures involved, and telcos being well... telcos... I wouldn't trust them in the slightest.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It would n't surprise me if this was deliberate misinformation .
The FCC has been asking for submissions for their stimulus fund allotment of 7.5 billion for high speed internet across the states .
A lot of people have been complaining about existing coverage , or leaving comments like 'hey , let 's also get the 200-300 billion the telco 's have already gotten paid for broadband rollout but have failed to deliver' .
Now here comes a really good stat showing one city is well on its way to being true broadband .
If I was a resident I would bitch to the FCC , congress critters , media , anyone I could think of about this .
Any chance of stimulus funds for broadband have disappeared with this study .
Also the local telco can chalk this area up as a 'broadband delivered ' area.Just a theory but with the dollar figures involved , and telcos being well... telcos... I would n't trust them in the slightest .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It wouldn't surprise me if this was deliberate misinformation.
The FCC has been asking for submissions for their stimulus fund allotment of 7.5 billion for high speed internet across the states.
A lot of people have been complaining about existing coverage, or  leaving comments like 'hey, let's also get the 200-300 billion the telco's have already gotten paid for broadband rollout but have failed to deliver'.
Now here comes a really good stat showing one city is well on its way to being true broadband.
If I was a resident I would bitch to the FCC, congress critters, media, anyone I could think of about this.
Any chance of stimulus funds for broadband have disappeared with this study.
Also the local telco can chalk this area up as a 'broadband delivered' area.Just a theory but with the dollar figures involved, and telcos being well... telcos... I wouldn't trust them in the slightest.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2122228.30793488</id>
	<title>It's cold here in Sandy...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263639600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Didn't expect to see the place that I am living to get that.</p><p>Hey, wait a minute... I'm not getting those speeds and I'm smack in the middle of the city... Hmmm... I think it's a conspiracy.</p><p>Of course the thing they forget to mention is that it's so cold here in the winter! Ok... maybe not as cold as Montana, but still!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Did n't expect to see the place that I am living to get that.Hey , wait a minute... I 'm not getting those speeds and I 'm smack in the middle of the city... Hmmm... I think it 's a conspiracy.Of course the thing they forget to mention is that it 's so cold here in the winter !
Ok... maybe not as cold as Montana , but still !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Didn't expect to see the place that I am living to get that.Hey, wait a minute... I'm not getting those speeds and I'm smack in the middle of the city... Hmmm... I think it's a conspiracy.Of course the thing they forget to mention is that it's so cold here in the winter!
Ok... maybe not as cold as Montana, but still!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2122228.30797856</id>
	<title>Re:Who cares about speed?</title>
	<author>thogard</author>
	<datestamp>1263739680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Um.. No!</p><p>3 mb is much faster than 1mb.<br>100 mb is even faster.<br>I have 3/3 at home and the 2/2 at work sucks.<br>I have 17/17 to many peering points on my home connection.</p><p>Oh my connection is clipped after the 1st 60 seconds.  Since the link is 1 gb in places which means some torrents complete before the connection is clipped.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Um.. No ! 3 mb is much faster than 1mb.100 mb is even faster.I have 3/3 at home and the 2/2 at work sucks.I have 17/17 to many peering points on my home connection.Oh my connection is clipped after the 1st 60 seconds .
Since the link is 1 gb in places which means some torrents complete before the connection is clipped .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Um.. No!3 mb is much faster than 1mb.100 mb is even faster.I have 3/3 at home and the 2/2 at work sucks.I have 17/17 to many peering points on my home connection.Oh my connection is clipped after the 1st 60 seconds.
Since the link is 1 gb in places which means some torrents complete before the connection is clipped.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2122228.30793540</id>
	<title>This makes perfect sense...</title>
	<author>macraig</author>
	<datestamp>1263639900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... since as we all know those polygamous Mormons are really really good at forming star topology networks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... since as we all know those polygamous Mormons are really really good at forming star topology networks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... since as we all know those polygamous Mormons are really really good at forming star topology networks.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2122228.30795984</id>
	<title>3.9 Mbps over the US land size</title>
	<author>JimboFBX</author>
	<datestamp>1263662460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Considering the size of the US in land area, having a 3.9 mbps average isn't that bad.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Considering the size of the US in land area , having a 3.9 mbps average is n't that bad .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Considering the size of the US in land area, having a 3.9 mbps average isn't that bad.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2122228.30796482</id>
	<title>p0rn!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263671940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>So that's how Utah clinches the title for highest consumption of porn per capita.
<a href="http://www.onlineeducation.net/porn/" title="onlineeducation.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.onlineeducation.net/porn/</a> [onlineeducation.net]</htmltext>
<tokenext>So that 's how Utah clinches the title for highest consumption of porn per capita .
http : //www.onlineeducation.net/porn/ [ onlineeducation.net ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So that's how Utah clinches the title for highest consumption of porn per capita.
http://www.onlineeducation.net/porn/ [onlineeducation.net]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2122228.30794744</id>
	<title>Re:Meanwhile...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263648060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What about the billions of people worldwide who don't have internet at all?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What about the billions of people worldwide who do n't have internet at all ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What about the billions of people worldwide who don't have internet at all?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2122228.30793530</id>
	<title>Re:Average is 33 megabits .... from who?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263639840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>XMission.<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.xmission.com/products/connections/UTOPIA/" title="xmission.com">http://www.xmission.com/products/connections/UTOPIA/</a> [xmission.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>XMission .
http : //www.xmission.com/products/connections/UTOPIA/ [ xmission.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>XMission.
http://www.xmission.com/products/connections/UTOPIA/ [xmission.com]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2122228.30794690</id>
	<title>Re:Whoever came to that conclusion doesn't know sh</title>
	<author>signingis</author>
	<datestamp>1263647640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.utopianet.org/" title="utopianet.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.utopianet.org/</a> [utopianet.org]</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah\_Telecommunication\_Open\_Infrastructure\_Agency" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah\_Telecommunication\_Open\_Infrastructure\_Agency</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.utopianet.org/ [ utopianet.org ] http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah \ _Telecommunication \ _Open \ _Infrastructure \ _Agency [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.utopianet.org/ [utopianet.org]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah\_Telecommunication\_Open\_Infrastructure\_Agency [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2122228.30794546</id>
	<title>Oh, a Utah article!</title>
	<author>Master\_Mahan</author>
	<datestamp>1263646560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Cue the Mormon-phobia comments and jokes about magic underwear...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Cue the Mormon-phobia comments and jokes about magic underwear.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cue the Mormon-phobia comments and jokes about magic underwear...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2122228.30793278</id>
	<title>Fair use policy</title>
	<author>IgnoramusMaximus</author>
	<datestamp>1263638100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What the article fails to mention is that this marvelous speed is achieved by the means of a very consumer-friendly "Fair Use Policy" of the ISP which sets the download maximum at 100 kilobytes per month, "for our customers' convenience".
</p><p>It is an orgasmic convergence of RIAA and MPIAA-friendly corporate stance (no music and movie pilfering possible), glorious marketing opportunity ("We are THE fastest Internet Service Provider in the USA!") and great PR ("All the national statistics clearly show us delivering most outstanding speed in the Nation!"). And it is all possible only because of the great foresight of the CEO of the ISP to replace all the useless "engineers" and "technicians" with Ivy-league educated MBAs.
</p><p>Behold, for you are seeing the awesome future of US Internet Industry!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What the article fails to mention is that this marvelous speed is achieved by the means of a very consumer-friendly " Fair Use Policy " of the ISP which sets the download maximum at 100 kilobytes per month , " for our customers ' convenience " .
It is an orgasmic convergence of RIAA and MPIAA-friendly corporate stance ( no music and movie pilfering possible ) , glorious marketing opportunity ( " We are THE fastest Internet Service Provider in the USA !
" ) and great PR ( " All the national statistics clearly show us delivering most outstanding speed in the Nation ! " ) .
And it is all possible only because of the great foresight of the CEO of the ISP to replace all the useless " engineers " and " technicians " with Ivy-league educated MBAs .
Behold , for you are seeing the awesome future of US Internet Industry !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What the article fails to mention is that this marvelous speed is achieved by the means of a very consumer-friendly "Fair Use Policy" of the ISP which sets the download maximum at 100 kilobytes per month, "for our customers' convenience".
It is an orgasmic convergence of RIAA and MPIAA-friendly corporate stance (no music and movie pilfering possible), glorious marketing opportunity ("We are THE fastest Internet Service Provider in the USA!
") and great PR ("All the national statistics clearly show us delivering most outstanding speed in the Nation!").
And it is all possible only because of the great foresight of the CEO of the ISP to replace all the useless "engineers" and "technicians" with Ivy-league educated MBAs.
Behold, for you are seeing the awesome future of US Internet Industry!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2122228.30793562</id>
	<title>We need the speed cause of the weather</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263640020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sandy is about 30 minutes south of Salt Lake City, and the U of U. Nice and cold and in the middle of a frozen inversion caused from being in the Salt Lake Valley. Nothing like breathing in dirt when you walk outside... Thus why I'm on my speedy broadband connection somewhere in the middle of the aforementioned city.. =]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sandy is about 30 minutes south of Salt Lake City , and the U of U. Nice and cold and in the middle of a frozen inversion caused from being in the Salt Lake Valley .
Nothing like breathing in dirt when you walk outside... Thus why I 'm on my speedy broadband connection somewhere in the middle of the aforementioned city.. = ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sandy is about 30 minutes south of Salt Lake City, and the U of U. Nice and cold and in the middle of a frozen inversion caused from being in the Salt Lake Valley.
Nothing like breathing in dirt when you walk outside... Thus why I'm on my speedy broadband connection somewhere in the middle of the aforementioned city.. =]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2122228.30796118</id>
	<title>Average Speed Decline????</title>
	<author>NeutronCowboy</author>
	<datestamp>1263664800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is no one else concerned bythe fact that the average speed DECLINED by 2.8\%?? Seriously? I mean, I understand our speeds suck. I get it. But they're now declining???? Yes, yes, lotsa people have internet on their phones. Average those in, and speeds will drop. But shouldn't there be an offset by all those new amazing DOCSYS 3.0 and FIOS technologies? I guess not. US connection speeds suck, and these people are proud that they're getting worse. Fuckers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is no one else concerned bythe fact that the average speed DECLINED by 2.8 \ % ? ?
Seriously ? I mean , I understand our speeds suck .
I get it .
But they 're now declining ? ? ? ?
Yes , yes , lotsa people have internet on their phones .
Average those in , and speeds will drop .
But should n't there be an offset by all those new amazing DOCSYS 3.0 and FIOS technologies ?
I guess not .
US connection speeds suck , and these people are proud that they 're getting worse .
Fuckers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is no one else concerned bythe fact that the average speed DECLINED by 2.8\%??
Seriously? I mean, I understand our speeds suck.
I get it.
But they're now declining????
Yes, yes, lotsa people have internet on their phones.
Average those in, and speeds will drop.
But shouldn't there be an offset by all those new amazing DOCSYS 3.0 and FIOS technologies?
I guess not.
US connection speeds suck, and these people are proud that they're getting worse.
Fuckers.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_16_2122228.30794752</id>
	<title>Re:Who cares about speed?</title>
	<author>Mspangler</author>
	<datestamp>1263648120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>According to speakeasy:</p><p>Last Result:<br>Download Speed: 46563 kbps (5820.4 KB/sec transfer rate)<br>Upload Speed: 3742 kbps (467.8 KB/sec transfer rate)</p><p>That was a short hop to their Seattle location from Central Washington, so definitely best case, but it still looks cool.</p><p>I can usually sustain 3.5 MB/second downloading system updates from Apple's website. so the real world rate is less, but the problem has been slow servers at the other end for awhile now.</p><p>The connection out of the fiber-optic box is 100 Mbit, so that or the linksys box will be the slow link.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>According to speakeasy : Last Result : Download Speed : 46563 kbps ( 5820.4 KB/sec transfer rate ) Upload Speed : 3742 kbps ( 467.8 KB/sec transfer rate ) That was a short hop to their Seattle location from Central Washington , so definitely best case , but it still looks cool.I can usually sustain 3.5 MB/second downloading system updates from Apple 's website .
so the real world rate is less , but the problem has been slow servers at the other end for awhile now.The connection out of the fiber-optic box is 100 Mbit , so that or the linksys box will be the slow link .
     </tokentext>
<sentencetext>According to speakeasy:Last Result:Download Speed: 46563 kbps (5820.4 KB/sec transfer rate)Upload Speed: 3742 kbps (467.8 KB/sec transfer rate)That was a short hop to their Seattle location from Central Washington, so definitely best case, but it still looks cool.I can usually sustain 3.5 MB/second downloading system updates from Apple's website.
so the real world rate is less, but the problem has been slow servers at the other end for awhile now.The connection out of the fiber-optic box is 100 Mbit, so that or the linksys box will be the slow link.
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