<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_01_15_174249</id>
	<title>In UK, Oink Admin Cleared of Fraud</title>
	<author>kdawson</author>
	<datestamp>1263584100000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>krou writes <i>"The BBC is reporting that Alan Ellis, who ran music file sharing site Oink from his flat in the UK, has been found <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tees/8461879.stm">not guilty of conspiracy to defraud</a>. Between 2004 and 2007, the site 'facilitated the download of 21 million music files' by allowing its some 200,000 'members to find other people on the web who were prepared to share files.' Ellis was making &pound;18,000 a month ($34,600) from donations from users, and claimed that he had <a href="http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5iQdGjKxv2Ea9qoDPQctpYenbBsEg">no intention of defrauding copyright holders</a>, and said 'All I do is really like Google, to really provide a connection between people. None of the music is on my website.'"</i> Reader Andorin recommends Torrentfreak's coverage, which includes <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/oink-admin-found-not-guilty-walks-free-100115/">summaries of the closing arguments</a>.</htmltext>
<tokenext>krou writes " The BBC is reporting that Alan Ellis , who ran music file sharing site Oink from his flat in the UK , has been found not guilty of conspiracy to defraud .
Between 2004 and 2007 , the site 'facilitated the download of 21 million music files ' by allowing its some 200,000 'members to find other people on the web who were prepared to share files .
' Ellis was making   18,000 a month ( $ 34,600 ) from donations from users , and claimed that he had no intention of defrauding copyright holders , and said 'All I do is really like Google , to really provide a connection between people .
None of the music is on my website .
' " Reader Andorin recommends Torrentfreak 's coverage , which includes summaries of the closing arguments .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>krou writes "The BBC is reporting that Alan Ellis, who ran music file sharing site Oink from his flat in the UK, has been found not guilty of conspiracy to defraud.
Between 2004 and 2007, the site 'facilitated the download of 21 million music files' by allowing its some 200,000 'members to find other people on the web who were prepared to share files.
' Ellis was making £18,000 a month ($34,600) from donations from users, and claimed that he had no intention of defrauding copyright holders, and said 'All I do is really like Google, to really provide a connection between people.
None of the music is on my website.
'" Reader Andorin recommends Torrentfreak's coverage, which includes summaries of the closing arguments.</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783646</id>
	<title>Re:money</title>
	<author>beatsme</author>
	<datestamp>1263549000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>He didn't have 300k, so I don't think he will get that in return. You're confusing the figures: 300k was what was earned by donations through the site. When he was arrested he only had 20k in savings.
<br>
<a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk\_news/england/tees/8457260.stm" title="bbc.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk\_news/england/tees/8457260.stm</a> [bbc.co.uk]
<br>
I imagine they froze his account, but that he will be returned to his pittance of a savings account.</htmltext>
<tokenext>He did n't have 300k , so I do n't think he will get that in return .
You 're confusing the figures : 300k was what was earned by donations through the site .
When he was arrested he only had 20k in savings .
http : //news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk \ _news/england/tees/8457260.stm [ bbc.co.uk ] I imagine they froze his account , but that he will be returned to his pittance of a savings account .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He didn't have 300k, so I don't think he will get that in return.
You're confusing the figures: 300k was what was earned by donations through the site.
When he was arrested he only had 20k in savings.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk\_news/england/tees/8457260.stm [bbc.co.uk]

I imagine they froze his account, but that he will be returned to his pittance of a savings account.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782862</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782862</id>
	<title>money</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263588540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The big question is...<br>Now that he has been found innocent, does he get his 300k back?<br>Or am I mistaken in assuming that his assets were seized?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The big question is...Now that he has been found innocent , does he get his 300k back ? Or am I mistaken in assuming that his assets were seized ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The big question is...Now that he has been found innocent, does he get his 300k back?Or am I mistaken in assuming that his assets were seized?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783080</id>
	<title>The lawyers get paid for a song and dance</title>
	<author>Bob\_Who</author>
	<datestamp>1263546480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Whats the point of law if not to pay courts?  If we just leave out the legal action, we're left with less disbursement of cash and tunes.  Its the new radio payola scheme.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Whats the point of law if not to pay courts ?
If we just leave out the legal action , we 're left with less disbursement of cash and tunes .
Its the new radio payola scheme .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Whats the point of law if not to pay courts?
If we just leave out the legal action, we're left with less disbursement of cash and tunes.
Its the new radio payola scheme.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783248</id>
	<title>Re:Implications for torrent sites?</title>
	<author>nxtw</author>
	<datestamp>1263547200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I do not know exactly how oink works (worked?)</p></div></blockquote><p>It was a private BitTorrent tracker.  The torrent files (containing the hashes) were generated by users and uploaded to the site.  OiNK tracked the torrents and provided search for its torrents.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do not know exactly how oink works ( worked ?
) It was a private BitTorrent tracker .
The torrent files ( containing the hashes ) were generated by users and uploaded to the site .
OiNK tracked the torrents and provided search for its torrents .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I do not know exactly how oink works (worked?
)It was a private BitTorrent tracker.
The torrent files (containing the hashes) were generated by users and uploaded to the site.
OiNK tracked the torrents and provided search for its torrents.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782930</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782708</id>
	<title>Spin</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263587940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>34k a month? I dont feel sorry they went after him.</p><p><i>When police raided his terraced home in October 2007, they found almost 300,000 dollars in his accounts and the site had 200,000 members, who had downloaded 21 million files.</i></p><p><i>Mr Ellis said the money was used to pay for the server's rental and any "surplus" was intended to eventually buy a server.</i></p><p>I'm calling shenanigans on that too. $300k would buy some pretty nice servers, much less <b>a</b> server.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>34k a month ?
I dont feel sorry they went after him.When police raided his terraced home in October 2007 , they found almost 300,000 dollars in his accounts and the site had 200,000 members , who had downloaded 21 million files.Mr Ellis said the money was used to pay for the server 's rental and any " surplus " was intended to eventually buy a server.I 'm calling shenanigans on that too .
$ 300k would buy some pretty nice servers , much less a server .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>34k a month?
I dont feel sorry they went after him.When police raided his terraced home in October 2007, they found almost 300,000 dollars in his accounts and the site had 200,000 members, who had downloaded 21 million files.Mr Ellis said the money was used to pay for the server's rental and any "surplus" was intended to eventually buy a server.I'm calling shenanigans on that too.
$300k would buy some pretty nice servers, much less a server.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783964</id>
	<title>Re:Spin</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263550200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><br> <i>A few grand a month can easily be spent on just a T1.</i> <br> <br>A T1? Are you from the past? Can I see your time machine?<br> <br>We lease a full 100 Mbit synchronous fibre connection for $1200/month. (in<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.ca eh)</htmltext>
<tokenext>A few grand a month can easily be spent on just a T1 .
A T1 ?
Are you from the past ?
Can I see your time machine ?
We lease a full 100 Mbit synchronous fibre connection for $ 1200/month .
( in .ca eh )</tokentext>
<sentencetext> A few grand a month can easily be spent on just a T1.
A T1?
Are you from the past?
Can I see your time machine?
We lease a full 100 Mbit synchronous fibre connection for $1200/month.
(in .ca eh)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782840</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782914</id>
	<title>He's an enabler...</title>
	<author>Em Emalb</author>
	<datestamp>1263588720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And you know how the government hates enablers.</p><p>A car analogy:</p><p>His website was like a GPS, handy, but can still head you in the wrong direction.</p><p>An illegal drug analogy:</p><p>His website was like marijuana, it was a gateway to more nefarious things.</p><p>(Warning, the above was sarcasm)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And you know how the government hates enablers.A car analogy : His website was like a GPS , handy , but can still head you in the wrong direction.An illegal drug analogy : His website was like marijuana , it was a gateway to more nefarious things .
( Warning , the above was sarcasm )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And you know how the government hates enablers.A car analogy:His website was like a GPS, handy, but can still head you in the wrong direction.An illegal drug analogy:His website was like marijuana, it was a gateway to more nefarious things.
(Warning, the above was sarcasm)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30808718</id>
	<title>Finally</title>
	<author>hesaigo999ca</author>
	<datestamp>1263834660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A judge that has common sense and knows that when you provide a client that lets you communicate with someone else<br>in form of data, it is no different then trying to say alexander graham bell is responsible for all conversations made using his phone.<br>Seriously, figure out a better drm system and stop trying to hammer the little guy<nobr> <wbr></nobr>....you don't like piracy , then create something non piratable..instead of trying to hold everybody else but yourself accountable for your failed product.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A judge that has common sense and knows that when you provide a client that lets you communicate with someone elsein form of data , it is no different then trying to say alexander graham bell is responsible for all conversations made using his phone.Seriously , figure out a better drm system and stop trying to hammer the little guy ....you do n't like piracy , then create something non piratable..instead of trying to hold everybody else but yourself accountable for your failed product .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A judge that has common sense and knows that when you provide a client that lets you communicate with someone elsein form of data, it is no different then trying to say alexander graham bell is responsible for all conversations made using his phone.Seriously, figure out a better drm system and stop trying to hammer the little guy ....you don't like piracy , then create something non piratable..instead of trying to hold everybody else but yourself accountable for your failed product.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30785786</id>
	<title>It's still fraud</title>
	<author>BlackHawk-666</author>
	<datestamp>1263559560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The guy had $300,000 stashed in an account he figured the police would not find when they went searching - I mean, who the hell keeps $300,000 in their Paypal account unless it's to avoid it being noticed when his bank records are requested.

Last time I provisioned a web server in the UK it was only about &pound;1500 and it seems to have not changed. A two unit server would most likely handle his website, since I don't believe he was even running the trackers, just a basic site to point people to the torrents. So $300,000 is enough to buy over 100 servers!

All of his hosting, domain registration, and hardware costs were ALREADY COVERED by the donations - the $300,000 was surplus to requirements.

There is no doubt in my mind he was just going to suck as much cash as he could out of people and then squirrel the money away in the Caymen Islands.

They should now trial him for defrauding the public of donations.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The guy had $ 300,000 stashed in an account he figured the police would not find when they went searching - I mean , who the hell keeps $ 300,000 in their Paypal account unless it 's to avoid it being noticed when his bank records are requested .
Last time I provisioned a web server in the UK it was only about   1500 and it seems to have not changed .
A two unit server would most likely handle his website , since I do n't believe he was even running the trackers , just a basic site to point people to the torrents .
So $ 300,000 is enough to buy over 100 servers !
All of his hosting , domain registration , and hardware costs were ALREADY COVERED by the donations - the $ 300,000 was surplus to requirements .
There is no doubt in my mind he was just going to suck as much cash as he could out of people and then squirrel the money away in the Caymen Islands .
They should now trial him for defrauding the public of donations .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The guy had $300,000 stashed in an account he figured the police would not find when they went searching - I mean, who the hell keeps $300,000 in their Paypal account unless it's to avoid it being noticed when his bank records are requested.
Last time I provisioned a web server in the UK it was only about £1500 and it seems to have not changed.
A two unit server would most likely handle his website, since I don't believe he was even running the trackers, just a basic site to point people to the torrents.
So $300,000 is enough to buy over 100 servers!
All of his hosting, domain registration, and hardware costs were ALREADY COVERED by the donations - the $300,000 was surplus to requirements.
There is no doubt in my mind he was just going to suck as much cash as he could out of people and then squirrel the money away in the Caymen Islands.
They should now trial him for defrauding the public of donations.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783578</id>
	<title>Re:Implications for torrent sites?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263548640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The tracker functionality can also be compared to a DNS server...</p><p>Just query [32 char hash key].trackerdomain.com, the DNS returns the IP of one of the seeders, you connect to that IP and retrieve from that seeder a list of peers and seeders. Query same domain after a minute, you get another IP, which gives you another subset of seeders and peers and so on.</p><p>A tracker is really the same thing with a DNS server - you let a member add host records and you keep his domain but you're not responsible for the content of the subdomains it creates.</p><p>If someone creates a subdomain to his domain called "prodigy", it doesn't mean that person will sell or distribute Prodigy cd's or mp3 files from that subdomain, and the dns server owner doesn't have the content in his control, just like a tracker doesn't store the content of the files.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The tracker functionality can also be compared to a DNS server...Just query [ 32 char hash key ] .trackerdomain.com , the DNS returns the IP of one of the seeders , you connect to that IP and retrieve from that seeder a list of peers and seeders .
Query same domain after a minute , you get another IP , which gives you another subset of seeders and peers and so on.A tracker is really the same thing with a DNS server - you let a member add host records and you keep his domain but you 're not responsible for the content of the subdomains it creates.If someone creates a subdomain to his domain called " prodigy " , it does n't mean that person will sell or distribute Prodigy cd 's or mp3 files from that subdomain , and the dns server owner does n't have the content in his control , just like a tracker does n't store the content of the files .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The tracker functionality can also be compared to a DNS server...Just query [32 char hash key].trackerdomain.com, the DNS returns the IP of one of the seeders, you connect to that IP and retrieve from that seeder a list of peers and seeders.
Query same domain after a minute, you get another IP, which gives you another subset of seeders and peers and so on.A tracker is really the same thing with a DNS server - you let a member add host records and you keep his domain but you're not responsible for the content of the subdomains it creates.If someone creates a subdomain to his domain called "prodigy", it doesn't mean that person will sell or distribute Prodigy cd's or mp3 files from that subdomain, and the dns server owner doesn't have the content in his control, just like a tracker doesn't store the content of the files.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782930</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783630</id>
	<title>Stupid corporations</title>
	<author>jfp51</author>
	<datestamp>1263548940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The record companies still don't get that I would pay a decent monthly fee for the legal equivalent of something as well organized as Oink was with the same quality control on the files... Not that I have to anyways but I would.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The record companies still do n't get that I would pay a decent monthly fee for the legal equivalent of something as well organized as Oink was with the same quality control on the files... Not that I have to anyways but I would .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The record companies still don't get that I would pay a decent monthly fee for the legal equivalent of something as well organized as Oink was with the same quality control on the files... Not that I have to anyways but I would.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30786366</id>
	<title>Re:money</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263563760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The records who that 300k passed through his papyal/bank accounts during the duration (3/4 years) of oink. he did not have 300k in his account at the end. He paid for the hosting and blackjack using the donation monies throughout.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The records who that 300k passed through his papyal/bank accounts during the duration ( 3/4 years ) of oink .
he did not have 300k in his account at the end .
He paid for the hosting and blackjack using the donation monies throughout .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The records who that 300k passed through his papyal/bank accounts during the duration (3/4 years) of oink.
he did not have 300k in his account at the end.
He paid for the hosting and blackjack using the donation monies throughout.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782862</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30784720</id>
	<title>Re:Implications for torrent sites?</title>
	<author>nametaken</author>
	<datestamp>1263553620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ah yes, the Napster defense.  Seems like this has been a colossal fail in the past.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ah yes , the Napster defense .
Seems like this has been a colossal fail in the past .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ah yes, the Napster defense.
Seems like this has been a colossal fail in the past.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782930</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783392</id>
	<title>Re:Implications for torrent sites?</title>
	<author>steelfood</author>
	<datestamp>1263547860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>UK government has much more clout against US pressure. They were in bed during the Bush/Blair administration, but that affair was completely consensual.</p><p>And there's the House of Lords, which resists bribes^H^H^H^H^H^Hcampaign contributions. Not sure if Sweden has an equivalent, but I'd imagine Swedish nobility is probably poorer than British nobility.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>UK government has much more clout against US pressure .
They were in bed during the Bush/Blair administration , but that affair was completely consensual.And there 's the House of Lords , which resists bribes ^ H ^ H ^ H ^ H ^ H ^ Hcampaign contributions .
Not sure if Sweden has an equivalent , but I 'd imagine Swedish nobility is probably poorer than British nobility .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>UK government has much more clout against US pressure.
They were in bed during the Bush/Blair administration, but that affair was completely consensual.And there's the House of Lords, which resists bribes^H^H^H^H^H^Hcampaign contributions.
Not sure if Sweden has an equivalent, but I'd imagine Swedish nobility is probably poorer than British nobility.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782930</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783110</id>
	<title>Re:Spin</title>
	<author>v1</author>
	<datestamp>1263546720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Oink was his business</i></p><p>Didn't he hold a regular job?  I don't recall Oink being his career?  maybe hobby/business/career needs a clarification?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oink was his businessDid n't he hold a regular job ?
I do n't recall Oink being his career ?
maybe hobby/business/career needs a clarification ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oink was his businessDidn't he hold a regular job?
I don't recall Oink being his career?
maybe hobby/business/career needs a clarification?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782792</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782692</id>
	<title>36k a month</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263587880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>wish i had thought of it</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>wish i had thought of it</tokentext>
<sentencetext>wish i had thought of it</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30784348</id>
	<title>Re:Strange route to take...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263551880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm guessing that what he did is utterly legal according to UK law and that the pathetic 'conspiracy to defraud' charge was the only thing they could possibly have a chance at a conviction with. Don't worry I'm sure the new 'digital economy' bill will sort this 'loop hole' out.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm guessing that what he did is utterly legal according to UK law and that the pathetic 'conspiracy to defraud ' charge was the only thing they could possibly have a chance at a conviction with .
Do n't worry I 'm sure the new 'digital economy ' bill will sort this 'loop hole ' out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm guessing that what he did is utterly legal according to UK law and that the pathetic 'conspiracy to defraud' charge was the only thing they could possibly have a chance at a conviction with.
Don't worry I'm sure the new 'digital economy' bill will sort this 'loop hole' out.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783178</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30785072</id>
	<title>Oink was amazing.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263555480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It was the best site on the internet before it was taken down.  You could find anything on oink, no matter how old or unpopular it was..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It was the best site on the internet before it was taken down .
You could find anything on oink , no matter how old or unpopular it was. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It was the best site on the internet before it was taken down.
You could find anything on oink, no matter how old or unpopular it was..</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782840</id>
	<title>Re:Spin</title>
	<author>girlintraining</author>
	<datestamp>1263588420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>34k a month? I dont feel sorry they went after him.</p></div><p>Trying to edge in on Apple and Microsoft's turf, and he didn't even pay his protection money to RIAA! No wonder the police came after him. I mean, seriously, what <i>was</i> he thinking?</p><p><div class="quote"><p>I'm calling shenanigans on that too. $300k would buy some pretty nice servers, much less a server.</p></div><p>The cost of the hardware is hardly worth mentioning... this little enterprise is about bandwidth. A few grand a month can <i>easily</i> be spent on just a T1.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>34k a month ?
I dont feel sorry they went after him.Trying to edge in on Apple and Microsoft 's turf , and he did n't even pay his protection money to RIAA !
No wonder the police came after him .
I mean , seriously , what was he thinking ? I 'm calling shenanigans on that too .
$ 300k would buy some pretty nice servers , much less a server.The cost of the hardware is hardly worth mentioning... this little enterprise is about bandwidth .
A few grand a month can easily be spent on just a T1 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>34k a month?
I dont feel sorry they went after him.Trying to edge in on Apple and Microsoft's turf, and he didn't even pay his protection money to RIAA!
No wonder the police came after him.
I mean, seriously, what was he thinking?I'm calling shenanigans on that too.
$300k would buy some pretty nice servers, much less a server.The cost of the hardware is hardly worth mentioning... this little enterprise is about bandwidth.
A few grand a month can easily be spent on just a T1.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782708</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783058</id>
	<title>Re:Implications for torrent sites?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263546360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The judge in that trial was owned by corporate interests. Probably not so in this one.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The judge in that trial was owned by corporate interests .
Probably not so in this one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The judge in that trial was owned by corporate interests.
Probably not so in this one.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782930</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783026</id>
	<title>Re:Implications for torrent sites?</title>
	<author>wizardforce</author>
	<datestamp>1263546120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>UK rulings to my knowledge, have no real authority outside of their jurisdiction (other countries) so the only way this could have any legal implications would be if TPB was based in the same jurisdiction as Oink.  It could also be that the courts took into account his intentions as well and made a distinction between TPB and say Google or Oink.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>UK rulings to my knowledge , have no real authority outside of their jurisdiction ( other countries ) so the only way this could have any legal implications would be if TPB was based in the same jurisdiction as Oink .
It could also be that the courts took into account his intentions as well and made a distinction between TPB and say Google or Oink .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>UK rulings to my knowledge, have no real authority outside of their jurisdiction (other countries) so the only way this could have any legal implications would be if TPB was based in the same jurisdiction as Oink.
It could also be that the courts took into account his intentions as well and made a distinction between TPB and say Google or Oink.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782930</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783562</id>
	<title>Re:Implications for torrent sites?</title>
	<author>dissy</author>
	<datestamp>1263548580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Wouldn't that make exactly the same defence valid for Pirate Bay and other torrent sites?</p></div><p>Yes.</p><p>Tis a shame The Pirate Bay didn't setup shop in the UK, where this defense is now known valid.</p><p>Silly pirates instead setup shop in a country where this is specifically legal to do, exactly so what happened wouldn't happen.  I guess in this day and age, you never know who you can trust.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Would n't that make exactly the same defence valid for Pirate Bay and other torrent sites ? Yes.T is a shame The Pirate Bay did n't setup shop in the UK , where this defense is now known valid.Silly pirates instead setup shop in a country where this is specifically legal to do , exactly so what happened would n't happen .
I guess in this day and age , you never know who you can trust .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wouldn't that make exactly the same defence valid for Pirate Bay and other torrent sites?Yes.Tis a shame The Pirate Bay didn't setup shop in the UK, where this defense is now known valid.Silly pirates instead setup shop in a country where this is specifically legal to do, exactly so what happened wouldn't happen.
I guess in this day and age, you never know who you can trust.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782930</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30785288</id>
	<title>Re:tasty</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263556680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>the waffles have been great but i hope this gets us back to bacon.</p></div><p>WHAT'd you say?!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>the waffles have been great but i hope this gets us back to bacon.WHAT 'd you say ?
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the waffles have been great but i hope this gets us back to bacon.WHAT'd you say?
!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783074</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782948</id>
	<title>Re:money</title>
	<author>girlintraining</author>
	<datestamp>1263588900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Now that he has been found innocent, does he get his 300k back?</p></div><p>You never get your money back if you're working class scum. You have to be born into money before they let you keep any of it. Maybe you haven't heard that if you're carrying more than a few hundred dollars you can have it seized on suspicion of terrorism or drugs and the burden of proof is on you. It's the same with every dollar you have in electronic accounts...</p><p>There's tens, if not hundreds, of millions in assets seized on suspicions by various government agencies... and never heard from again. Afterall, if you complain, they'll just come back and take the rest... conspiracy to commit... obstruction of justice... you know, the usual bullsh*t charges.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Now that he has been found innocent , does he get his 300k back ? You never get your money back if you 're working class scum .
You have to be born into money before they let you keep any of it .
Maybe you have n't heard that if you 're carrying more than a few hundred dollars you can have it seized on suspicion of terrorism or drugs and the burden of proof is on you .
It 's the same with every dollar you have in electronic accounts...There 's tens , if not hundreds , of millions in assets seized on suspicions by various government agencies... and never heard from again .
Afterall , if you complain , they 'll just come back and take the rest... conspiracy to commit... obstruction of justice... you know , the usual bullsh * t charges .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now that he has been found innocent, does he get his 300k back?You never get your money back if you're working class scum.
You have to be born into money before they let you keep any of it.
Maybe you haven't heard that if you're carrying more than a few hundred dollars you can have it seized on suspicion of terrorism or drugs and the burden of proof is on you.
It's the same with every dollar you have in electronic accounts...There's tens, if not hundreds, of millions in assets seized on suspicions by various government agencies... and never heard from again.
Afterall, if you complain, they'll just come back and take the rest... conspiracy to commit... obstruction of justice... you know, the usual bullsh*t charges.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782862</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782902</id>
	<title>&pound;1 per member per year</title>
	<author>fridaynightsmoke</author>
	<datestamp>1263588660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not a bad 'donation density' really. It just shows the massive economies of scale possible on the internet.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not a bad 'donation density ' really .
It just shows the massive economies of scale possible on the internet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not a bad 'donation density' really.
It just shows the massive economies of scale possible on the internet.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783178</id>
	<title>Strange route to take...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263547020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>"Conspiracy to defraud"<br> <br>
Defrauding seems a bit of an odd charge to lay for this.  It suggests that he was taking wealth from the record industry for direct personal gain.  <br> <br>
The money cam from subscribers.  They were not making any money from the file sharing.  Even if he had a website that was explicitly dedicated to getting people in contact to fence actually stolen property I'd have thought this would be hard to make stick.
<br> <br>
Doesn't UK law have anything along the lines of conspiracy to facilitate copyright infringement?</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Conspiracy to defraud " Defrauding seems a bit of an odd charge to lay for this .
It suggests that he was taking wealth from the record industry for direct personal gain .
The money cam from subscribers .
They were not making any money from the file sharing .
Even if he had a website that was explicitly dedicated to getting people in contact to fence actually stolen property I 'd have thought this would be hard to make stick .
Does n't UK law have anything along the lines of conspiracy to facilitate copyright infringement ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Conspiracy to defraud" 
Defrauding seems a bit of an odd charge to lay for this.
It suggests that he was taking wealth from the record industry for direct personal gain.
The money cam from subscribers.
They were not making any money from the file sharing.
Even if he had a website that was explicitly dedicated to getting people in contact to fence actually stolen property I'd have thought this would be hard to make stick.
Doesn't UK law have anything along the lines of conspiracy to facilitate copyright infringement?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30785400</id>
	<title>Re:tasty</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263557340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>what?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>what ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>what?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783074</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783664</id>
	<title>friSt sDtop</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263549060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Anyone tbhat thinks Clothes or be a These early infinitesimally our cause. Gay Software lawyers</htmltext>
<tokenext>Anyone tbhat thinks Clothes or be a These early infinitesimally our cause .
Gay Software lawyers</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anyone tbhat thinks Clothes or be a These early infinitesimally our cause.
Gay Software lawyers</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30784346</id>
	<title>Conspiracy?</title>
	<author>epo001</author>
	<datestamp>1263551880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"In the criminal law, a conspiracy is an agreement between two or more persons to break the law at some time in the future, and, in some cases, with at least one overt act in furtherance of that agreement." <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy\_(crime)" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy\_(crime)</a> [wikipedia.org]</p><p>So how come one person was charged, who was he meant to be conspiring with and why were they not charged as well?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" In the criminal law , a conspiracy is an agreement between two or more persons to break the law at some time in the future , and , in some cases , with at least one overt act in furtherance of that agreement .
" http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy \ _ ( crime ) [ wikipedia.org ] So how come one person was charged , who was he meant to be conspiring with and why were they not charged as well ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"In the criminal law, a conspiracy is an agreement between two or more persons to break the law at some time in the future, and, in some cases, with at least one overt act in furtherance of that agreement.
" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy\_(crime) [wikipedia.org]So how come one person was charged, who was he meant to be conspiring with and why were they not charged as well?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782852</id>
	<title>Re:Spin</title>
	<author>sopssa</author>
	<datestamp>1263588480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And what a successful one it was indeed. Good profit, no jail time, happy times.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And what a successful one it was indeed .
Good profit , no jail time , happy times .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And what a successful one it was indeed.
Good profit, no jail time, happy times.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782792</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30784750</id>
	<title>It's nothing like google</title>
	<author>thetoadwarrior</author>
	<datestamp>1263553800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>His logic is that he's like good is utter shit. For starters Google doesn't require an invite and secondly Google can find numerous things and its sole purpose isn't to share copyright material.
<br> <br>
You're right about Pirate Bay and in fact Pirate Bay was more like Google seeing how it wasn't invite only and one could easily stumble across freely rather than having to actively seek to share copyright material.</htmltext>
<tokenext>His logic is that he 's like good is utter shit .
For starters Google does n't require an invite and secondly Google can find numerous things and its sole purpose is n't to share copyright material .
You 're right about Pirate Bay and in fact Pirate Bay was more like Google seeing how it was n't invite only and one could easily stumble across freely rather than having to actively seek to share copyright material .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>His logic is that he's like good is utter shit.
For starters Google doesn't require an invite and secondly Google can find numerous things and its sole purpose isn't to share copyright material.
You're right about Pirate Bay and in fact Pirate Bay was more like Google seeing how it wasn't invite only and one could easily stumble across freely rather than having to actively seek to share copyright material.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782930</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782956</id>
	<title>Small correction</title>
	<author>krou</author>
	<datestamp>1263588960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Pretty sure when I quoted the article originally it said &pound;18,000, but it's now saying $18,000, which is &pound;11,000.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Pretty sure when I quoted the article originally it said   18,000 , but it 's now saying $ 18,000 , which is   11,000 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pretty sure when I quoted the article originally it said £18,000, but it's now saying $18,000, which is £11,000.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783252</id>
	<title>Good news</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263547200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nice to hear a sensible decision on this matter in UK courts, not completely bought by money/power of certain big businesses yet unlike elsewhere.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nice to hear a sensible decision on this matter in UK courts , not completely bought by money/power of certain big businesses yet unlike elsewhere .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nice to hear a sensible decision on this matter in UK courts, not completely bought by money/power of certain big businesses yet unlike elsewhere.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30786878</id>
	<title>Re:Spin</title>
	<author>zookeeperme</author>
	<datestamp>1263567240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>The article is incorrect. The $300k figure is the total amount that was taken in donations through the existence of the site. The $20k number quoted later in the article is the actual amount that he had in the accounts.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The article is incorrect .
The $ 300k figure is the total amount that was taken in donations through the existence of the site .
The $ 20k number quoted later in the article is the actual amount that he had in the accounts .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The article is incorrect.
The $300k figure is the total amount that was taken in donations through the existence of the site.
The $20k number quoted later in the article is the actual amount that he had in the accounts.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782708</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782792</id>
	<title>Re:Spin</title>
	<author>pwnies</author>
	<datestamp>1263588180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>What of it? Oink was his business, good for him for making a profit off of it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>What of it ?
Oink was his business , good for him for making a profit off of it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What of it?
Oink was his business, good for him for making a profit off of it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782708</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783396</id>
	<title>Re:Implications for torrent sites?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263547860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I was a member of Oink. It was a private, invitation only site. It mostly consisted of a large message board where people could post links to stuff they were sharing, or file "wish lists" of stuff they were looking for. If you wanted to boost your ratio, you'd hit these wish lists and try to fill them. Was a nice site, and left a hole when it was taken down.</p><p>If you read the article, you'd see that the music industry apparently made use of the site to distribute and promote material as well.</p><p>Yeah, I pirate a lot of stuff. I'd also wager that I own more legal CDs, DVDs and Blu-Ray discs than the average person, so I think it balances out. I mostly use pirated stuff to "taste test" new material on my terms (it can take a couple of listens to an entire album sometimes to grow an appreciation of the material). I'm also super picky about quality, so I rarely keep the pirated material "as is" - if it's good and I like it, I seek out and buy the genuine article.</p><p>But that's me. I'm glad the Oink guy didn't get pounded into the ground. It was a nice service that I gladly donated to. No regrets.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I was a member of Oink .
It was a private , invitation only site .
It mostly consisted of a large message board where people could post links to stuff they were sharing , or file " wish lists " of stuff they were looking for .
If you wanted to boost your ratio , you 'd hit these wish lists and try to fill them .
Was a nice site , and left a hole when it was taken down.If you read the article , you 'd see that the music industry apparently made use of the site to distribute and promote material as well.Yeah , I pirate a lot of stuff .
I 'd also wager that I own more legal CDs , DVDs and Blu-Ray discs than the average person , so I think it balances out .
I mostly use pirated stuff to " taste test " new material on my terms ( it can take a couple of listens to an entire album sometimes to grow an appreciation of the material ) .
I 'm also super picky about quality , so I rarely keep the pirated material " as is " - if it 's good and I like it , I seek out and buy the genuine article.But that 's me .
I 'm glad the Oink guy did n't get pounded into the ground .
It was a nice service that I gladly donated to .
No regrets .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was a member of Oink.
It was a private, invitation only site.
It mostly consisted of a large message board where people could post links to stuff they were sharing, or file "wish lists" of stuff they were looking for.
If you wanted to boost your ratio, you'd hit these wish lists and try to fill them.
Was a nice site, and left a hole when it was taken down.If you read the article, you'd see that the music industry apparently made use of the site to distribute and promote material as well.Yeah, I pirate a lot of stuff.
I'd also wager that I own more legal CDs, DVDs and Blu-Ray discs than the average person, so I think it balances out.
I mostly use pirated stuff to "taste test" new material on my terms (it can take a couple of listens to an entire album sometimes to grow an appreciation of the material).
I'm also super picky about quality, so I rarely keep the pirated material "as is" - if it's good and I like it, I seek out and buy the genuine article.But that's me.
I'm glad the Oink guy didn't get pounded into the ground.
It was a nice service that I gladly donated to.
No regrets.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782930</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783102</id>
	<title>Re:money</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263546660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>NO way dude.... they just sprinkled some crack on the money.... it is now the CEO of AIG's last week's lunch tab.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>NO way dude.... they just sprinkled some crack on the money.... it is now the CEO of AIG 's last week 's lunch tab .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>NO way dude.... they just sprinkled some crack on the money.... it is now the CEO of AIG's last week's lunch tab.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782862</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782930</id>
	<title>Implications for torrent sites?</title>
	<author>WowTIP</author>
	<datestamp>1263588780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I do not know exactly how oink works (worked?), but from the quote</p><p><i>All I do is really like Google, to really provide a connection between people. None of the music is on my website.</i> </p><p>Wouldn't that make exactly the same defence valid for Pirate Bay and other torrent sites?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do not know exactly how oink works ( worked ?
) , but from the quoteAll I do is really like Google , to really provide a connection between people .
None of the music is on my website .
Would n't that make exactly the same defence valid for Pirate Bay and other torrent sites ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I do not know exactly how oink works (worked?
), but from the quoteAll I do is really like Google, to really provide a connection between people.
None of the music is on my website.
Wouldn't that make exactly the same defence valid for Pirate Bay and other torrent sites?
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783198</id>
	<title>Re:Spin</title>
	<author>nxtw</author>
	<datestamp>1263547020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I'm calling shenanigans on that too. $300k would buy some pretty nice servers, much less a server.</p></div></blockquote><p>Hardware costs were probably minimal compared to bandwidth &amp; hosting expenses...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm calling shenanigans on that too .
$ 300k would buy some pretty nice servers , much less a server.Hardware costs were probably minimal compared to bandwidth &amp; hosting expenses.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm calling shenanigans on that too.
$300k would buy some pretty nice servers, much less a server.Hardware costs were probably minimal compared to bandwidth &amp; hosting expenses...
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782708</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783074</id>
	<title>tasty</title>
	<author>JackSpratts</author>
	<datestamp>1263546420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>the waffles have been great but i hope this gets us back to bacon.</htmltext>
<tokenext>the waffles have been great but i hope this gets us back to bacon .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the waffles have been great but i hope this gets us back to bacon.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783938</id>
	<title>Re:Implications for torrent sites?</title>
	<author>Beerdood</author>
	<datestamp>1263550140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I do not know exactly how oink works (worked?), but from the quote</p><p> <i>All I do is really like Google, to really provide a connection between people. None of the music is on my website.</i> </p><p>Wouldn't that make exactly the same defence valid for Pirate Bay and other torrent sites?</p></div><p>If Oink was still up and running, I'm guessing they may have had a similar outcome to mininova, where they wouldn't be found guilty of copyright infringement on the basis that they didn't upload any songs themselves, but would have to remove the copyrighted material.  Even if that was the trial, wasn't he charged with fraud, and not file distribution / copyright infringement?  That becomes a question of whether the people donating were scammed (perhaps into thinking their donations go towards artists). <br> <br>
It's not really fair to compare this with TPB either, which really was created for pirating.  Before you mark this as troll, look at their posted <a href="http://thepiratebay.org/legal" title="thepiratebay.org" rel="nofollow"> legal threats </a> [thepiratebay.org] and cheeky responses, the <a href="http://mediamemo.allthingsd.com/20090814/the-pirate-bay-still-hasnt-gone-legit-still-enjoys-poking-big-media-in-the-eye-how-to-get-a-675000-mixtape-for-free/" title="allthingsd.com" rel="nofollow"> DJ Joel </a> [allthingsd.com] torrent, and the name "the pirate bay" (cmon, a body of water in Sweden? who are you kidding).  <br> <br>
Also, from TFA, he is the first person to be charged in the UK, so the copyright / fraud laws may differ from those in Sweden or the Netherlands</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do not know exactly how oink works ( worked ?
) , but from the quote All I do is really like Google , to really provide a connection between people .
None of the music is on my website .
Would n't that make exactly the same defence valid for Pirate Bay and other torrent sites ? If Oink was still up and running , I 'm guessing they may have had a similar outcome to mininova , where they would n't be found guilty of copyright infringement on the basis that they did n't upload any songs themselves , but would have to remove the copyrighted material .
Even if that was the trial , was n't he charged with fraud , and not file distribution / copyright infringement ?
That becomes a question of whether the people donating were scammed ( perhaps into thinking their donations go towards artists ) .
It 's not really fair to compare this with TPB either , which really was created for pirating .
Before you mark this as troll , look at their posted legal threats [ thepiratebay.org ] and cheeky responses , the DJ Joel [ allthingsd.com ] torrent , and the name " the pirate bay " ( cmon , a body of water in Sweden ?
who are you kidding ) .
Also , from TFA , he is the first person to be charged in the UK , so the copyright / fraud laws may differ from those in Sweden or the Netherlands</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I do not know exactly how oink works (worked?
), but from the quote All I do is really like Google, to really provide a connection between people.
None of the music is on my website.
Wouldn't that make exactly the same defence valid for Pirate Bay and other torrent sites?If Oink was still up and running, I'm guessing they may have had a similar outcome to mininova, where they wouldn't be found guilty of copyright infringement on the basis that they didn't upload any songs themselves, but would have to remove the copyrighted material.
Even if that was the trial, wasn't he charged with fraud, and not file distribution / copyright infringement?
That becomes a question of whether the people donating were scammed (perhaps into thinking their donations go towards artists).
It's not really fair to compare this with TPB either, which really was created for pirating.
Before you mark this as troll, look at their posted  legal threats  [thepiratebay.org] and cheeky responses, the  DJ Joel  [allthingsd.com] torrent, and the name "the pirate bay" (cmon, a body of water in Sweden?
who are you kidding).
Also, from TFA, he is the first person to be charged in the UK, so the copyright / fraud laws may differ from those in Sweden or the Netherlands
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782930</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783076</id>
	<title>Re:Implications for torrent sites?</title>
	<author>gb123</author>
	<datestamp>1263546420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I do not know exactly how oink works (worked?), but from the quote</p><p> <i>All I do is really like Google, to really provide a connection between people. None of the music is on my website.</i> </p><p>Wouldn't that make exactly the same defence valid for Pirate Bay and other torrent sites?</p></div><p>I thought The Pirate Bay got in trouble for its tracker - which to my knowledge is no longer functional.  This looks to be the same idea as TPB, minus the tracking.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do not know exactly how oink works ( worked ?
) , but from the quote All I do is really like Google , to really provide a connection between people .
None of the music is on my website .
Would n't that make exactly the same defence valid for Pirate Bay and other torrent sites ? I thought The Pirate Bay got in trouble for its tracker - which to my knowledge is no longer functional .
This looks to be the same idea as TPB , minus the tracking .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I do not know exactly how oink works (worked?
), but from the quote All I do is really like Google, to really provide a connection between people.
None of the music is on my website.
Wouldn't that make exactly the same defence valid for Pirate Bay and other torrent sites?I thought The Pirate Bay got in trouble for its tracker - which to my knowledge is no longer functional.
This looks to be the same idea as TPB, minus the tracking.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782930</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783130</id>
	<title>Oink!</title>
	<author>mano.m</author>
	<datestamp>1263546780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Capitalist pig.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Capitalist pig .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Capitalist pig.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30785942</id>
	<title>Re:money</title>
	<author>suss</author>
	<datestamp>1263560520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There was no 300K. That was the amount of donations OiNK got over 3 years' time... most of that would have gone to server cost, which was quite a lot towards the end (think $4000-$5000/month).</p><p>The prosecution apparently did a great job of making some of their lies and half-truths into things the public takes as facts now...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There was no 300K .
That was the amount of donations OiNK got over 3 years ' time... most of that would have gone to server cost , which was quite a lot towards the end ( think $ 4000- $ 5000/month ) .The prosecution apparently did a great job of making some of their lies and half-truths into things the public takes as facts now.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There was no 300K.
That was the amount of donations OiNK got over 3 years' time... most of that would have gone to server cost, which was quite a lot towards the end (think $4000-$5000/month).The prosecution apparently did a great job of making some of their lies and half-truths into things the public takes as facts now...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782862</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30785010</id>
	<title>Re:Strange route to take...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263555180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>"Conspiracy to defraud"</p><p>Defrauding seems a bit of an odd charge to lay for this.  It suggests that he was taking wealth from the record industry for direct personal gain.</p><p>Doesn't UK law have anything along the lines of conspiracy to facilitate copyright infringement?</p></div><p>The point of the case was, in the UK, as it currently stands, there are no laws against "making available"; which means the copyright holders that wanted the police to go after him ALREADY knew what the site was doing, at least in law, was all above board.</p><p>So instead, they urged the police to go another route and linked the donations recieved to the actual downloads themselves and tried to argue the case he was selling the music.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Conspiracy to defraud " Defrauding seems a bit of an odd charge to lay for this .
It suggests that he was taking wealth from the record industry for direct personal gain.Does n't UK law have anything along the lines of conspiracy to facilitate copyright infringement ? The point of the case was , in the UK , as it currently stands , there are no laws against " making available " ; which means the copyright holders that wanted the police to go after him ALREADY knew what the site was doing , at least in law , was all above board.So instead , they urged the police to go another route and linked the donations recieved to the actual downloads themselves and tried to argue the case he was selling the music .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Conspiracy to defraud"Defrauding seems a bit of an odd charge to lay for this.
It suggests that he was taking wealth from the record industry for direct personal gain.Doesn't UK law have anything along the lines of conspiracy to facilitate copyright infringement?The point of the case was, in the UK, as it currently stands, there are no laws against "making available"; which means the copyright holders that wanted the police to go after him ALREADY knew what the site was doing, at least in law, was all above board.So instead, they urged the police to go another route and linked the donations recieved to the actual downloads themselves and tried to argue the case he was selling the music.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783178</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783092</id>
	<title>Re:Implications for torrent sites?</title>
	<author>Anonymous Psychopath</author>
	<datestamp>1263546540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I do not know exactly how oink works (worked?), but from the quote</p><p> <i>All I do is really like Google, to really provide a connection between people. None of the music is on my website.</i> </p><p>Wouldn't that make exactly the same defence valid for Pirate Bay and other torrent sites?</p></div><p>Yes, that is TPB's defense. But, different laws and courts for different nations, so the decision in the UK isn't applicable in Sweden.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do not know exactly how oink works ( worked ?
) , but from the quote All I do is really like Google , to really provide a connection between people .
None of the music is on my website .
Would n't that make exactly the same defence valid for Pirate Bay and other torrent sites ? Yes , that is TPB 's defense .
But , different laws and courts for different nations , so the decision in the UK is n't applicable in Sweden .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I do not know exactly how oink works (worked?
), but from the quote All I do is really like Google, to really provide a connection between people.
None of the music is on my website.
Wouldn't that make exactly the same defence valid for Pirate Bay and other torrent sites?Yes, that is TPB's defense.
But, different laws and courts for different nations, so the decision in the UK isn't applicable in Sweden.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782930</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783338</id>
	<title>Re:money</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263547620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>NO way dude.... they just sprinkled some crack on the money.... it is now the CEO of AIG's last week's lunch tab.</p></div><p>Wow.  You took a UK court ruling and somehow made it about an American financial giant by stealing a race joke.  I'm impressed.  What's your next trick, telling us about how China's Google hack is really the cause of the Haitian earthquake?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>NO way dude.... they just sprinkled some crack on the money.... it is now the CEO of AIG 's last week 's lunch tab.Wow .
You took a UK court ruling and somehow made it about an American financial giant by stealing a race joke .
I 'm impressed .
What 's your next trick , telling us about how China 's Google hack is really the cause of the Haitian earthquake ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>NO way dude.... they just sprinkled some crack on the money.... it is now the CEO of AIG's last week's lunch tab.Wow.
You took a UK court ruling and somehow made it about an American financial giant by stealing a race joke.
I'm impressed.
What's your next trick, telling us about how China's Google hack is really the cause of the Haitian earthquake?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783102</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783096</id>
	<title>Re:Implications for torrent sites?</title>
	<author>eball</author>
	<datestamp>1263546600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>My understanding is that the UK doesn't have a law against causing/contributing to copyright infringement, so they sued him for "defrauding the music industry." But since all he did was host the tracker, while the users did all the actual sharing, it would appear that there wasn't really any UK law that they could nail him with.
The case for The Pirate Bay is definitely similar, but TPB was in Sweden. I don't know if their laws are really all that different or if it's just that their courts are more happy to pin blame on someone, but things like this are different from country to country (for now).</htmltext>
<tokenext>My understanding is that the UK does n't have a law against causing/contributing to copyright infringement , so they sued him for " defrauding the music industry .
" But since all he did was host the tracker , while the users did all the actual sharing , it would appear that there was n't really any UK law that they could nail him with .
The case for The Pirate Bay is definitely similar , but TPB was in Sweden .
I do n't know if their laws are really all that different or if it 's just that their courts are more happy to pin blame on someone , but things like this are different from country to country ( for now ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My understanding is that the UK doesn't have a law against causing/contributing to copyright infringement, so they sued him for "defrauding the music industry.
" But since all he did was host the tracker, while the users did all the actual sharing, it would appear that there wasn't really any UK law that they could nail him with.
The case for The Pirate Bay is definitely similar, but TPB was in Sweden.
I don't know if their laws are really all that different or if it's just that their courts are more happy to pin blame on someone, but things like this are different from country to country (for now).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782930</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783212</id>
	<title>Re:Spin</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263547080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Obviously he would say all the money was for keeping the site running, saying anything else would have harmed his case. If you look at the userbase it's easy to see how he got it - 180,000 people dropping the odd few quid over 3 years would mount up quickly.</p><p>I have mixed feelings about him walking away with all that cash. Maybe I'm just surprised and a little jealous he could rack that much money up.</p><p>Maybe he should have donated some of the excess or disabled donations once he was above running costs, I don't know. But in reality I think if any of you put yourselves in the shoes of a 23 year old with money piling in like it was for him, you'd be thinking 'fuck yeh!' - I know I would.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Obviously he would say all the money was for keeping the site running , saying anything else would have harmed his case .
If you look at the userbase it 's easy to see how he got it - 180,000 people dropping the odd few quid over 3 years would mount up quickly.I have mixed feelings about him walking away with all that cash .
Maybe I 'm just surprised and a little jealous he could rack that much money up.Maybe he should have donated some of the excess or disabled donations once he was above running costs , I do n't know .
But in reality I think if any of you put yourselves in the shoes of a 23 year old with money piling in like it was for him , you 'd be thinking 'fuck yeh !
' - I know I would .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Obviously he would say all the money was for keeping the site running, saying anything else would have harmed his case.
If you look at the userbase it's easy to see how he got it - 180,000 people dropping the odd few quid over 3 years would mount up quickly.I have mixed feelings about him walking away with all that cash.
Maybe I'm just surprised and a little jealous he could rack that much money up.Maybe he should have donated some of the excess or disabled donations once he was above running costs, I don't know.
But in reality I think if any of you put yourselves in the shoes of a 23 year old with money piling in like it was for him, you'd be thinking 'fuck yeh!
' - I know I would.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782708</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30785052</id>
	<title>Wrong Victims</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263555420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually I think the people donating were supposed to be the victims, he was claiming to need money to keep the service going, but in reality had a decent flow going.</p><p>Personally, I don't think this was fraud unless he was stating that he needed the money to keep the service going when in fact he did not, but then again, I am not paid by the recording industries.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually I think the people donating were supposed to be the victims , he was claiming to need money to keep the service going , but in reality had a decent flow going.Personally , I do n't think this was fraud unless he was stating that he needed the money to keep the service going when in fact he did not , but then again , I am not paid by the recording industries .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually I think the people donating were supposed to be the victims, he was claiming to need money to keep the service going, but in reality had a decent flow going.Personally, I don't think this was fraud unless he was stating that he needed the money to keep the service going when in fact he did not, but then again, I am not paid by the recording industries.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783178</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782858</id>
	<title>Re:Spin</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263588540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You didn't read what you quoted?</p><p>How much do you think expenses for current serves cost with 200,000 users?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You did n't read what you quoted ? How much do you think expenses for current serves cost with 200,000 users ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You didn't read what you quoted?How much do you think expenses for current serves cost with 200,000 users?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782708</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783206</id>
	<title>Re:Implications for torrent sites?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263547080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>All I do is really like Google, to really provide a connection between people. None of the music is on my website.</p></div><p>I was a member of Oink. I loved the site and was upset when it got shut down.</p><p>Nevertheless, this quote is bunk. It was nothing like Google. It was an exclusive piracy club. He provided an invitation-only portal for members to illegally trade copyrighted material.</p><p>Again, I loved the site, but I had no illusions about what it was, and what I was using it for.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>All I do is really like Google , to really provide a connection between people .
None of the music is on my website.I was a member of Oink .
I loved the site and was upset when it got shut down.Nevertheless , this quote is bunk .
It was nothing like Google .
It was an exclusive piracy club .
He provided an invitation-only portal for members to illegally trade copyrighted material.Again , I loved the site , but I had no illusions about what it was , and what I was using it for .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All I do is really like Google, to really provide a connection between people.
None of the music is on my website.I was a member of Oink.
I loved the site and was upset when it got shut down.Nevertheless, this quote is bunk.
It was nothing like Google.
It was an exclusive piracy club.
He provided an invitation-only portal for members to illegally trade copyrighted material.Again, I loved the site, but I had no illusions about what it was, and what I was using it for.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782930</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30785860</id>
	<title>Donations were OPTIONAL</title>
	<author>Peter Steil</author>
	<datestamp>1263560040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>OiNK was an awesome place, great community of great people. Donations were 100\% voluntary, in fact I never donated much other than my time. I seriously doubt the money found in his bank account was personal profits, etc. I truly believe that the majority of it would have been reinvested into the site had the initial raid not taken place.</htmltext>
<tokenext>OiNK was an awesome place , great community of great people .
Donations were 100 \ % voluntary , in fact I never donated much other than my time .
I seriously doubt the money found in his bank account was personal profits , etc .
I truly believe that the majority of it would have been reinvested into the site had the initial raid not taken place .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OiNK was an awesome place, great community of great people.
Donations were 100\% voluntary, in fact I never donated much other than my time.
I seriously doubt the money found in his bank account was personal profits, etc.
I truly believe that the majority of it would have been reinvested into the site had the initial raid not taken place.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30784252</id>
	<title>Re:Implications for torrent sites?</title>
	<author>Yaotzin</author>
	<datestamp>1263551460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Most politicians in Sweden are not rich in that sense. Sure they have good wages but not so much more than that. Besides, the nobility only exist in name and the only special right they have is that others are barred from changing their surnames to one that is used by a noble family. As far as I know, it's fairly rare for nobility to partake in the upper echelons of politics. So in conclusion, I would say yes, it's probably more common to accept bribes in Sweden given that it probably is harder to resist on grounds that are not purely economical. On the other hand, I don't know how rich the nobility is in Britain.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Most politicians in Sweden are not rich in that sense .
Sure they have good wages but not so much more than that .
Besides , the nobility only exist in name and the only special right they have is that others are barred from changing their surnames to one that is used by a noble family .
As far as I know , it 's fairly rare for nobility to partake in the upper echelons of politics .
So in conclusion , I would say yes , it 's probably more common to accept bribes in Sweden given that it probably is harder to resist on grounds that are not purely economical .
On the other hand , I do n't know how rich the nobility is in Britain .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most politicians in Sweden are not rich in that sense.
Sure they have good wages but not so much more than that.
Besides, the nobility only exist in name and the only special right they have is that others are barred from changing their surnames to one that is used by a noble family.
As far as I know, it's fairly rare for nobility to partake in the upper echelons of politics.
So in conclusion, I would say yes, it's probably more common to accept bribes in Sweden given that it probably is harder to resist on grounds that are not purely economical.
On the other hand, I don't know how rich the nobility is in Britain.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783392</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30784042</id>
	<title>Pride</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263550560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>At last we can be proud of someone from the UK doing something right.  Well done MF.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>At last we can be proud of someone from the UK doing something right .
Well done MF .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At last we can be proud of someone from the UK doing something right.
Well done MF.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_15_174249_16</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30785288
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783074
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_15_174249_1</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783212
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782708
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_15_174249_29</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783578
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782930
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_15_174249_10</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783562
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782930
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_15_174249_26</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783096
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782930
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_15_174249_9</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783026
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782930
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_15_174249_5</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782852
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782792
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782708
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_15_174249_14</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30784750
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782930
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_15_174249_13</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30784720
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782930
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_15_174249_18</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30785942
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782862
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_15_174249_7</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783938
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782930
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_15_174249_17</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30785400
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783074
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_15_174249_30</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782948
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782862
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_15_174249_3</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783338
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783102
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782862
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_15_174249_2</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783198
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782708
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_15_174249_11</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30785010
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783178
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_15_174249_6</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783248
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782930
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_15_174249_15</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30784348
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783178
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_15_174249_0</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783646
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782862
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_15_174249_19</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782858
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782708
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_15_174249_4</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783058
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782930
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_15_174249_8</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783092
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782930
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_15_174249_23</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783206
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782930
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_15_174249_27</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783076
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782930
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_15_174249_20</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783110
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782792
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782708
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_15_174249_24</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30786366
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782862
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_15_174249_28</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30786878
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782708
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_15_174249_12</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30785052
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783178
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_15_174249_21</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30784252
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783392
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782930
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_15_174249_25</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783396
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782930
</commentlist>
</thread>
<thread>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#thread_10_01_15_174249_22</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783964
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782840
http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782708
</commentlist>
</thread>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation10_01_15_174249.8</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30784346
</commentlist>
</conversation>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation10_01_15_174249.2</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782708
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782840
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783964
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783212
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30786878
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782792
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782852
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783110
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783198
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782858
</commentlist>
</conversation>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation10_01_15_174249.0</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782692
</commentlist>
</conversation>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation10_01_15_174249.5</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782862
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783102
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783338
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30785942
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783646
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782948
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30786366
</commentlist>
</conversation>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation10_01_15_174249.3</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782930
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783938
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783096
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30784750
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783076
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783392
--http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30784252
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783578
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783248
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783206
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783396
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783092
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783562
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783026
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30784720
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783058
</commentlist>
</conversation>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation10_01_15_174249.6</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30782914
</commentlist>
</conversation>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation10_01_15_174249.4</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30785786
</commentlist>
</conversation>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation10_01_15_174249.7</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783074
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30785400
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30785288
</commentlist>
</conversation>
<conversation>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#conversation10_01_15_174249.1</id>
	<commentlist>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30783178
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30785052
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30785010
-http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_15_174249.30784348
</commentlist>
</conversation>
