<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_01_13_1915242</id>
	<title>Nexus One Owners Report Spotty 3G Signals On T-Mobile</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1263410760000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>rsk writes <i>"One of the most popular questions on the Google Nexus One support forums is the '<a href="http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?tid=0bd8ccd4799040c2&amp;hl=en#all">Spotty 3G?</a>' thread with almost 700 posts of users complaining about their <a href="http://www.breakitdownblog.com/unpredictable-3g-coverage-from-t-mobile-on-nexus-one/">3G signal coverage fluctuating</a> up, down, and between EDGE/3G with the phone just sitting on the desk or compared to other 3G devices on the T-Mobile network that don't offer the same unpredictable behavior. One workaround that seems to fix the issue is forcing the phone into '3G' or '<a href="http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?tid=7e3df6f08fdc8a01&amp;hl=en">WCDMA Only</a>' mode. This is a bit of a downer given that T-Mobile <a href="http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/01/05/t-mobile-completes-3g-network-upgrade-to-hspa-7-2-mbps/">just finished</a> their 3G upgrade to 7.2Mbps. Official word from Google is '<a href="http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?tid=0bd8ccd4799040c2&amp;hl=en">We are investigating this issue...</a>.'"</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>rsk writes " One of the most popular questions on the Google Nexus One support forums is the 'Spotty 3G ?
' thread with almost 700 posts of users complaining about their 3G signal coverage fluctuating up , down , and between EDGE/3G with the phone just sitting on the desk or compared to other 3G devices on the T-Mobile network that do n't offer the same unpredictable behavior .
One workaround that seems to fix the issue is forcing the phone into '3G ' or 'WCDMA Only ' mode .
This is a bit of a downer given that T-Mobile just finished their 3G upgrade to 7.2Mbps .
Official word from Google is 'We are investigating this issue.... ' "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>rsk writes "One of the most popular questions on the Google Nexus One support forums is the 'Spotty 3G?
' thread with almost 700 posts of users complaining about their 3G signal coverage fluctuating up, down, and between EDGE/3G with the phone just sitting on the desk or compared to other 3G devices on the T-Mobile network that don't offer the same unpredictable behavior.
One workaround that seems to fix the issue is forcing the phone into '3G' or 'WCDMA Only' mode.
This is a bit of a downer given that T-Mobile just finished their 3G upgrade to 7.2Mbps.
Official word from Google is 'We are investigating this issue....'"</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30755750</id>
	<title>Re:Did only whiners buy the Nexus One?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263375360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This whole thing has the odor of astroturfing on it. We have inflammatory headlines about 'support issues' from news outlets, and this week's non-story about termination fees.</p><p>If not an outright FUD campaign by Google's competitors, at the very least the media is blowing things out of proportion to get a story.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This whole thing has the odor of astroturfing on it .
We have inflammatory headlines about 'support issues ' from news outlets , and this week 's non-story about termination fees.If not an outright FUD campaign by Google 's competitors , at the very least the media is blowing things out of proportion to get a story .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This whole thing has the odor of astroturfing on it.
We have inflammatory headlines about 'support issues' from news outlets, and this week's non-story about termination fees.If not an outright FUD campaign by Google's competitors, at the very least the media is blowing things out of proportion to get a story.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30758268</id>
	<title>Re:Did only whiners buy the Nexus One?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263386400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Or this is a competitive marketing campaign to spread FUD by some other company?

For all I know 700 complaints (and let's say, 20\% are trolls, 10\% are likely the same people!, really around 300-400 real complaints) out of what: 20K sold phones is not bad compared to the iPhone3G debut and about par with the 3GS. Think about it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Or this is a competitive marketing campaign to spread FUD by some other company ?
For all I know 700 complaints ( and let 's say , 20 \ % are trolls , 10 \ % are likely the same people ! , really around 300-400 real complaints ) out of what : 20K sold phones is not bad compared to the iPhone3G debut and about par with the 3GS .
Think about it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or this is a competitive marketing campaign to spread FUD by some other company?
For all I know 700 complaints (and let's say, 20\% are trolls, 10\% are likely the same people!, really around 300-400 real complaints) out of what: 20K sold phones is not bad compared to the iPhone3G debut and about par with the 3GS.
Think about it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30756150</id>
	<title>Re:Did only whiners buy the Nexus One?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263376860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't think it's only the N1 consumer, it's everyone who owns a smartphone. I publish a quality, 4 star, app for 0.99$ and you wouldn't believe the trash people come up with to get their, often 0.60 euros/pounds, back.</p><p>People will pay 300\% overhead for a bottle of water at an amusement park without thinking twice and only drink half, but when it comes to a 0.60 euro app! Fucker better gimme my money back a month later when I want it! Can't change the launcher icon! 1 star!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't think it 's only the N1 consumer , it 's everyone who owns a smartphone .
I publish a quality , 4 star , app for 0.99 $ and you would n't believe the trash people come up with to get their , often 0.60 euros/pounds , back.People will pay 300 \ % overhead for a bottle of water at an amusement park without thinking twice and only drink half , but when it comes to a 0.60 euro app !
Fucker better gim me my money back a month later when I want it !
Ca n't change the launcher icon !
1 star !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't think it's only the N1 consumer, it's everyone who owns a smartphone.
I publish a quality, 4 star, app for 0.99$ and you wouldn't believe the trash people come up with to get their, often 0.60 euros/pounds, back.People will pay 300\% overhead for a bottle of water at an amusement park without thinking twice and only drink half, but when it comes to a 0.60 euro app!
Fucker better gimme my money back a month later when I want it!
Can't change the launcher icon!
1 star!
!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30755972</id>
	<title>US-mode telephony</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263376200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Poor service in far too many cases, hardware locked into service providers, limitations on use contrary to the advertising (and, sometimes, contract), but the chumps/marks/"customers" can't really complain, 'cause the major carriers own enough of the government to stifle any redress.</p><p>Get used to it; it isn't going to get any better.</p><p>Yeah, it may be a troll/whine, but until the tech "fanboys" (us) go cold turkey and stop buying the contracts, there's not even a hope of change (and, yes, I have).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Poor service in far too many cases , hardware locked into service providers , limitations on use contrary to the advertising ( and , sometimes , contract ) , but the chumps/marks/ " customers " ca n't really complain , 'cause the major carriers own enough of the government to stifle any redress.Get used to it ; it is n't going to get any better.Yeah , it may be a troll/whine , but until the tech " fanboys " ( us ) go cold turkey and stop buying the contracts , there 's not even a hope of change ( and , yes , I have ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Poor service in far too many cases, hardware locked into service providers, limitations on use contrary to the advertising (and, sometimes, contract), but the chumps/marks/"customers" can't really complain, 'cause the major carriers own enough of the government to stifle any redress.Get used to it; it isn't going to get any better.Yeah, it may be a troll/whine, but until the tech "fanboys" (us) go cold turkey and stop buying the contracts, there's not even a hope of change (and, yes, I have).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30756390</id>
	<title>Re:Spotty 3G on T-Mobile?</title>
	<author>MrCrassic</author>
	<datestamp>1263378000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A minor nitpick: The complaint here is that Nexus One owners are experiencing spotty <b>3G</b> coverage on their phones. Since none of the iPhones support T-Mobile's 3G band, none of them would have this problem.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A minor nitpick : The complaint here is that Nexus One owners are experiencing spotty 3G coverage on their phones .
Since none of the iPhones support T-Mobile 's 3G band , none of them would have this problem .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A minor nitpick: The complaint here is that Nexus One owners are experiencing spotty 3G coverage on their phones.
Since none of the iPhones support T-Mobile's 3G band, none of them would have this problem.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30755540</id>
	<title>Plan for T-Mobile</title>
	<author>gregarican</author>
	<datestamp>1263374580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Since T-Mobile is a lower-tier provider in the U.S. (although has pretty good customer service from what I recall) perhaps they'd be better to reinvent themselves by partnering with a like-minded company. They should merge with America Online so they can truly jump the shark.</p><p>Seriously though, after 8+ years of heavy business use of Verizon, AT&amp;T, and T-Mobile I'd put them in that order in terms of service coverage. And AT&amp;T and T-Mobile are so far down the pecking order it's a joke...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Since T-Mobile is a lower-tier provider in the U.S. ( although has pretty good customer service from what I recall ) perhaps they 'd be better to reinvent themselves by partnering with a like-minded company .
They should merge with America Online so they can truly jump the shark.Seriously though , after 8 + years of heavy business use of Verizon , AT&amp;T , and T-Mobile I 'd put them in that order in terms of service coverage .
And AT&amp;T and T-Mobile are so far down the pecking order it 's a joke.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since T-Mobile is a lower-tier provider in the U.S. (although has pretty good customer service from what I recall) perhaps they'd be better to reinvent themselves by partnering with a like-minded company.
They should merge with America Online so they can truly jump the shark.Seriously though, after 8+ years of heavy business use of Verizon, AT&amp;T, and T-Mobile I'd put them in that order in terms of service coverage.
And AT&amp;T and T-Mobile are so far down the pecking order it's a joke...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30756140</id>
	<title>Re:Spotty 3G on T-Mobile?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263376860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I had so many dropped called when I was with AT&amp;T.  They were rated the worst network in the nation recently.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I had so many dropped called when I was with AT&amp;T .
They were rated the worst network in the nation recently .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I had so many dropped called when I was with AT&amp;T.
They were rated the worst network in the nation recently.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30755576</id>
	<title>Re:Welcome to reality.</title>
	<author>kindbud</author>
	<datestamp>1263374760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's a good tip.  Not all devices support it, though.  But I never have switch it back to auto.  I use 3G on Verizon, where I get four bars and 2.5 Mbps on my boat moored at Catalina Island, 26 miles off the coast of Los Angeles.  With Verizon, you can pretty much fix it to 3G-only and never have a problem, except in parts of West Texas.</p><p>I wonder sometimes whether the difference is that Verizon uses CDMA, or that Verizon just has way more towers than the other carriers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's a good tip .
Not all devices support it , though .
But I never have switch it back to auto .
I use 3G on Verizon , where I get four bars and 2.5 Mbps on my boat moored at Catalina Island , 26 miles off the coast of Los Angeles .
With Verizon , you can pretty much fix it to 3G-only and never have a problem , except in parts of West Texas.I wonder sometimes whether the difference is that Verizon uses CDMA , or that Verizon just has way more towers than the other carriers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's a good tip.
Not all devices support it, though.
But I never have switch it back to auto.
I use 3G on Verizon, where I get four bars and 2.5 Mbps on my boat moored at Catalina Island, 26 miles off the coast of Los Angeles.
With Verizon, you can pretty much fix it to 3G-only and never have a problem, except in parts of West Texas.I wonder sometimes whether the difference is that Verizon uses CDMA, or that Verizon just has way more towers than the other carriers.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30757974</id>
	<title>duh</title>
	<author>gsgleason</author>
	<datestamp>1263385380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>T mobile has spotty 3G coverage, period.  I have a G1 and it's always been like that, as well as pretty much everyone else.</htmltext>
<tokenext>T mobile has spotty 3G coverage , period .
I have a G1 and it 's always been like that , as well as pretty much everyone else .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>T mobile has spotty 3G coverage, period.
I have a G1 and it's always been like that, as well as pretty much everyone else.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30754780</id>
	<title>Did only whiners buy the Nexus One?</title>
	<author>cmkeane</author>
	<datestamp>1263414720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I ordered the N1 right out of the box, and it has performed almost flawlessly.  The 3G has held as good as anything in REAL use.  And it has compared favorably with my experience on the myTouch on t-mobile, and a long list of WM phones on AT&amp;T.  It is possible there is a bad batch in the initial production line, or perhaps people are spending WAY too much time looking at their signal status!  I have never seen any phone be perfect in holding steady bars/speed level on any carrier in real use - you know, moving about in a building, driving a car, and even just sitting in my office.  Too many variables.  Its a friggin' phone, not a magical device and large production runs may have some flaws.  Now the apparent lack of customer support planned, that is a different story.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I ordered the N1 right out of the box , and it has performed almost flawlessly .
The 3G has held as good as anything in REAL use .
And it has compared favorably with my experience on the myTouch on t-mobile , and a long list of WM phones on AT&amp;T .
It is possible there is a bad batch in the initial production line , or perhaps people are spending WAY too much time looking at their signal status !
I have never seen any phone be perfect in holding steady bars/speed level on any carrier in real use - you know , moving about in a building , driving a car , and even just sitting in my office .
Too many variables .
Its a friggin ' phone , not a magical device and large production runs may have some flaws .
Now the apparent lack of customer support planned , that is a different story .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I ordered the N1 right out of the box, and it has performed almost flawlessly.
The 3G has held as good as anything in REAL use.
And it has compared favorably with my experience on the myTouch on t-mobile, and a long list of WM phones on AT&amp;T.
It is possible there is a bad batch in the initial production line, or perhaps people are spending WAY too much time looking at their signal status!
I have never seen any phone be perfect in holding steady bars/speed level on any carrier in real use - you know, moving about in a building, driving a car, and even just sitting in my office.
Too many variables.
Its a friggin' phone, not a magical device and large production runs may have some flaws.
Now the apparent lack of customer support planned, that is a different story.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30755684</id>
	<title>News...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263375120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>In other news, the sky is blue...</htmltext>
<tokenext>In other news , the sky is blue.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In other news, the sky is blue...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30754992</id>
	<title>it's still in beta</title>
	<author>alen</author>
	<datestamp>1263415620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>seriously, i was checking the Android Central forums and there is a whole thread there how it's a known issue with HTC phones going back at least a year and affects all carriers</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>seriously , i was checking the Android Central forums and there is a whole thread there how it 's a known issue with HTC phones going back at least a year and affects all carriers</tokentext>
<sentencetext>seriously, i was checking the Android Central forums and there is a whole thread there how it's a known issue with HTC phones going back at least a year and affects all carriers</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30757550</id>
	<title>minneapolis</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263383340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>no one has said this, but t-mobile coverage in mpls-metro is as good if not better than anyone. Anyway, I'll pay one internet bill thanks. When mobile internet competes with cable, dsl, then i'll get on board.  But we'll never get fair pricing with all you yahoos snapping up all these goofball gadgets on rip-off plans. Presently its useless. I have a 4 yr old winmo device with 8gb of static html (mainly wikipedia) I have the same (err faster) mobile referencing for free since that is how I acquired my phone. I am awesome everyone else sucks. Here's to t-mobile, for great customer service, the underdog, and the only good choice for anyone who wants to send money to more legitimate democracies.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>no one has said this , but t-mobile coverage in mpls-metro is as good if not better than anyone .
Anyway , I 'll pay one internet bill thanks .
When mobile internet competes with cable , dsl , then i 'll get on board .
But we 'll never get fair pricing with all you yahoos snapping up all these goofball gadgets on rip-off plans .
Presently its useless .
I have a 4 yr old winmo device with 8gb of static html ( mainly wikipedia ) I have the same ( err faster ) mobile referencing for free since that is how I acquired my phone .
I am awesome everyone else sucks .
Here 's to t-mobile , for great customer service , the underdog , and the only good choice for anyone who wants to send money to more legitimate democracies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>no one has said this, but t-mobile coverage in mpls-metro is as good if not better than anyone.
Anyway, I'll pay one internet bill thanks.
When mobile internet competes with cable, dsl, then i'll get on board.
But we'll never get fair pricing with all you yahoos snapping up all these goofball gadgets on rip-off plans.
Presently its useless.
I have a 4 yr old winmo device with 8gb of static html (mainly wikipedia) I have the same (err faster) mobile referencing for free since that is how I acquired my phone.
I am awesome everyone else sucks.
Here's to t-mobile, for great customer service, the underdog, and the only good choice for anyone who wants to send money to more legitimate democracies.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30755582</id>
	<title>Re:Spotty 3G on T-Mobile?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263374760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sounds like your radio firmware got updated with 3.0. I'm guessing that's all the Nexus One needs as well.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sounds like your radio firmware got updated with 3.0 .
I 'm guessing that 's all the Nexus One needs as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sounds like your radio firmware got updated with 3.0.
I'm guessing that's all the Nexus One needs as well.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30756598</id>
	<title>When you are on the bleeding edge...</title>
	<author>Pointy\_Hair</author>
	<datestamp>1263378840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... it's always your blood all over the floor. Give it a while and they'll have that shiny new gadget patched up real nice!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... it 's always your blood all over the floor .
Give it a while and they 'll have that shiny new gadget patched up real nice !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... it's always your blood all over the floor.
Give it a while and they'll have that shiny new gadget patched up real nice!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30755016</id>
	<title>Thank you, beta testers!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263415740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Thank you, beta testers! Now I am more informed of this new phone!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Thank you , beta testers !
Now I am more informed of this new phone !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thank you, beta testers!
Now I am more informed of this new phone!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30756302</id>
	<title>Re:Spotty 3G on T-Mobile?</title>
	<author>Old97</author>
	<datestamp>1263377640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm still having that problem with my iPhone 3Gs.  I work in the Loop in Chicago.  It varies with the time of day too.  I suspect that the amount of demand at any given moment is a big part of it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm still having that problem with my iPhone 3Gs .
I work in the Loop in Chicago .
It varies with the time of day too .
I suspect that the amount of demand at any given moment is a big part of it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm still having that problem with my iPhone 3Gs.
I work in the Loop in Chicago.
It varies with the time of day too.
I suspect that the amount of demand at any given moment is a big part of it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30756652</id>
	<title>Re:Did only whiners buy the Nexus One?</title>
	<author>PopeRatzo</author>
	<datestamp>1263379080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I ordered the N1 right out of the box, and it has performed almost flawlessly.</p></div></blockquote><p>Shhhh.</p><p>You're spoiling all this perfectly good appleturfing.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I ordered the N1 right out of the box , and it has performed almost flawlessly.Shhhh.You 're spoiling all this perfectly good appleturfing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I ordered the N1 right out of the box, and it has performed almost flawlessly.Shhhh.You're spoiling all this perfectly good appleturfing.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30761664</id>
	<title>Re:Spotty 3G on T-Mobile?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263501180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I thought the actual phone was made by HTC? (Who's been making phones for a while now, previously in the Windows Mobile business)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I thought the actual phone was made by HTC ?
( Who 's been making phones for a while now , previously in the Windows Mobile business )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I thought the actual phone was made by HTC?
(Who's been making phones for a while now, previously in the Windows Mobile business)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30755700</id>
	<title>Re:Spotty 3G on T-Mobile?</title>
	<author>jimbolauski</author>
	<datestamp>1263375120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>T-Mobile has always had coverage issues, they don't suscribe to the verizon plan of cover everywhere and charge your customers more for the towers that don't get used.</htmltext>
<tokenext>T-Mobile has always had coverage issues , they do n't suscribe to the verizon plan of cover everywhere and charge your customers more for the towers that do n't get used .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>T-Mobile has always had coverage issues, they don't suscribe to the verizon plan of cover everywhere and charge your customers more for the towers that don't get used.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30755304</id>
	<title>Re:Spotty 3G on T-Mobile?</title>
	<author>AndrewNeo</author>
	<datestamp>1263373740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just 3G coverage? Where I live they make some MVNOs look good. You're lucky to get EDGE here, otherwise you get some pretty consistent GPRS at least. This is a 'major' city, too, we even have actual AT&amp;T 3G. I don't think we'll see good T-mobile coverage here for years.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just 3G coverage ?
Where I live they make some MVNOs look good .
You 're lucky to get EDGE here , otherwise you get some pretty consistent GPRS at least .
This is a 'major ' city , too , we even have actual AT&amp;T 3G .
I do n't think we 'll see good T-mobile coverage here for years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just 3G coverage?
Where I live they make some MVNOs look good.
You're lucky to get EDGE here, otherwise you get some pretty consistent GPRS at least.
This is a 'major' city, too, we even have actual AT&amp;T 3G.
I don't think we'll see good T-mobile coverage here for years.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30756054</id>
	<title>Re:Welcome to reality.</title>
	<author>fm6</author>
	<datestamp>1263376560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Didn't even know you could do this. A link to supporting documentation and/or software will earn you a small bribe.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Did n't even know you could do this .
A link to supporting documentation and/or software will earn you a small bribe .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Didn't even know you could do this.
A link to supporting documentation and/or software will earn you a small bribe.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30762220</id>
	<title>Re:Spotty 3G on T-Mobile?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263467160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Writer of "Symbian OS Internals" said that he knows only 2-3 GSM signaling stack sold in the whole market. Diversity should be a key to success.<br>There were a widespread sudden crash and reboot obviously due to incompatibility with cell tower happened in Japan on ALL Nokia 3Gs sold in the country. that \_was\_ weird.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Writer of " Symbian OS Internals " said that he knows only 2-3 GSM signaling stack sold in the whole market .
Diversity should be a key to success.There were a widespread sudden crash and reboot obviously due to incompatibility with cell tower happened in Japan on ALL Nokia 3Gs sold in the country .
that \ _was \ _ weird .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Writer of "Symbian OS Internals" said that he knows only 2-3 GSM signaling stack sold in the whole market.
Diversity should be a key to success.There were a widespread sudden crash and reboot obviously due to incompatibility with cell tower happened in Japan on ALL Nokia 3Gs sold in the country.
that \_was\_ weird.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30755844</id>
	<title>Re:Never Spotty</title>
	<author>greyline</author>
	<datestamp>1263375720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>How did you submit if you lost connection?</htmltext>
<tokenext>How did you submit if you lost connection ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How did you submit if you lost connection?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30759636</id>
	<title>Re:Spotty 3G on T-Mobile?NIKE JORDAN SHOES,COACH</title>
	<author>Lawrence1986</author>
	<datestamp>1263393120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.allbyer.com/" title="allbyer.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.allbyer.com/</a> [allbyer.com]
Hi,Dear Ladies and Gentlemen,Here are the most popular, most stylish and avant-garde shoes,handbags,Tshirts, jacket,Tracksuit w ect...NIKE SHOX,JORDAN SHOES 1-24,AF,DUNK,SB,PUMA<nobr> <wbr></nobr>,R4,NZ,OZ,T1-TL3) $35HANDBGAS(COACH,L V, DG, ED HARDY) $35TSHIRTS (POLO<nobr> <wbr></nobr>,ED HARDY, LACOSTE) $16
thanks... For details, please consult <a href="http://www.allbyer.com/" title="allbyer.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.allbyer.com/</a> [allbyer.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.allbyer.com/ [ allbyer.com ] Hi,Dear Ladies and Gentlemen,Here are the most popular , most stylish and avant-garde shoes,handbags,Tshirts , jacket,Tracksuit w ect...NIKE SHOX,JORDAN SHOES 1-24,AF,DUNK,SB,PUMA ,R4,NZ,OZ,T1-TL3 ) $ 35HANDBGAS ( COACH,L V , DG , ED HARDY ) $ 35TSHIRTS ( POLO ,ED HARDY , LACOSTE ) $ 16 thanks... For details , please consult http : //www.allbyer.com/ [ allbyer.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.allbyer.com/ [allbyer.com]
Hi,Dear Ladies and Gentlemen,Here are the most popular, most stylish and avant-garde shoes,handbags,Tshirts, jacket,Tracksuit w ect...NIKE SHOX,JORDAN SHOES 1-24,AF,DUNK,SB,PUMA ,R4,NZ,OZ,T1-TL3) $35HANDBGAS(COACH,L V, DG, ED HARDY) $35TSHIRTS (POLO ,ED HARDY, LACOSTE) $16
thanks... For details, please consult http://www.allbyer.com/ [allbyer.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30756802</id>
	<title>Re:Welcome to reality.</title>
	<author>VoltageX</author>
	<datestamp>1263379800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And not just in the US either. Here in Australia I am constantly setting the band on my N95 to stop it either a) locking on to the 1-bar 3G signal when the 2G network is fine, or b) locking on to the 5-bar 2G signal when the 3-bar 3G signal would work fine.</htmltext>
<tokenext>And not just in the US either .
Here in Australia I am constantly setting the band on my N95 to stop it either a ) locking on to the 1-bar 3G signal when the 2G network is fine , or b ) locking on to the 5-bar 2G signal when the 3-bar 3G signal would work fine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And not just in the US either.
Here in Australia I am constantly setting the band on my N95 to stop it either a) locking on to the 1-bar 3G signal when the 2G network is fine, or b) locking on to the 5-bar 2G signal when the 3-bar 3G signal would work fine.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30755602</id>
	<title>Re:Spotty 3G on T-Mobile?</title>
	<author>dgatwood</author>
	<datestamp>1263374820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I remember reading about that iPhone problem.  I suspect that it's a bug in the stock firmware for that chipset and that this is another one of those obnoxious flaws in the way the chipset vendors handle patches.  As I understand it from talking to some cell phone engineers, when you start out with a chipset, you get a standard copy of the baseband firmware from the chipset manufacturer.  I'll call that the baseline version.  Patches from clients for cell firmware end up going into a separate tree for that specific client and are not typically propagated back upstream to the baseline, so every phone manufacturer who develops a phone using any given chipset ends up having to find and fix the same set of hundreds of baseband bugs over and over.  If that's true, I'm amazed that the cell manufacturers put up with it.  That certainly explains why cell phones have so many hundreds (or thousands) of baseband crasher bugs, and it also probably explains why Google is having to relearn all the stuff that Apple just learned a few months ago, and probably Nokia learned a few months before that, and so on.</p><p>Sad, really.  Everyone suffers because of corporate paranoia and overly strong copyright protection on minor source code patches.  Were the firmware an open source project, cellular communications would be in much better shape.  Of course, the telecoms are terrified of that because then people would be running rogue baseband firmware, and the tower baseband software probably isn't much more robust than the cell phone baseband software is, so once again, corporate paranoia results in a poor customer experience.  And to some degree, the cell companies probably like it this way because it makes it harder for new competitors to build phones that work.</p><p>I'm so glad I don't work in telecom.  *sigh*</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I remember reading about that iPhone problem .
I suspect that it 's a bug in the stock firmware for that chipset and that this is another one of those obnoxious flaws in the way the chipset vendors handle patches .
As I understand it from talking to some cell phone engineers , when you start out with a chipset , you get a standard copy of the baseband firmware from the chipset manufacturer .
I 'll call that the baseline version .
Patches from clients for cell firmware end up going into a separate tree for that specific client and are not typically propagated back upstream to the baseline , so every phone manufacturer who develops a phone using any given chipset ends up having to find and fix the same set of hundreds of baseband bugs over and over .
If that 's true , I 'm amazed that the cell manufacturers put up with it .
That certainly explains why cell phones have so many hundreds ( or thousands ) of baseband crasher bugs , and it also probably explains why Google is having to relearn all the stuff that Apple just learned a few months ago , and probably Nokia learned a few months before that , and so on.Sad , really .
Everyone suffers because of corporate paranoia and overly strong copyright protection on minor source code patches .
Were the firmware an open source project , cellular communications would be in much better shape .
Of course , the telecoms are terrified of that because then people would be running rogue baseband firmware , and the tower baseband software probably is n't much more robust than the cell phone baseband software is , so once again , corporate paranoia results in a poor customer experience .
And to some degree , the cell companies probably like it this way because it makes it harder for new competitors to build phones that work.I 'm so glad I do n't work in telecom .
* sigh *</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I remember reading about that iPhone problem.
I suspect that it's a bug in the stock firmware for that chipset and that this is another one of those obnoxious flaws in the way the chipset vendors handle patches.
As I understand it from talking to some cell phone engineers, when you start out with a chipset, you get a standard copy of the baseband firmware from the chipset manufacturer.
I'll call that the baseline version.
Patches from clients for cell firmware end up going into a separate tree for that specific client and are not typically propagated back upstream to the baseline, so every phone manufacturer who develops a phone using any given chipset ends up having to find and fix the same set of hundreds of baseband bugs over and over.
If that's true, I'm amazed that the cell manufacturers put up with it.
That certainly explains why cell phones have so many hundreds (or thousands) of baseband crasher bugs, and it also probably explains why Google is having to relearn all the stuff that Apple just learned a few months ago, and probably Nokia learned a few months before that, and so on.Sad, really.
Everyone suffers because of corporate paranoia and overly strong copyright protection on minor source code patches.
Were the firmware an open source project, cellular communications would be in much better shape.
Of course, the telecoms are terrified of that because then people would be running rogue baseband firmware, and the tower baseband software probably isn't much more robust than the cell phone baseband software is, so once again, corporate paranoia results in a poor customer experience.
And to some degree, the cell companies probably like it this way because it makes it harder for new competitors to build phones that work.I'm so glad I don't work in telecom.
*sigh*</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30755150</id>
	<title>As an ATT customer I can say ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263416280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I thought that was just how 3G was supposed to work.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I thought that was just how 3G was supposed to work .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I thought that was just how 3G was supposed to work.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30755350</id>
	<title>That's why I bailed out from T-mobile</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263373860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't use 3G service, only basic mobile telephone service, but T-mobile sucked in my area. If I were indoors, 90\% of the time I couldn't pick up a signal. I switched to Verizon, and have had no problems since. (I do have a non-usable SIM card Treo, but it was worth the switch.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't use 3G service , only basic mobile telephone service , but T-mobile sucked in my area .
If I were indoors , 90 \ % of the time I could n't pick up a signal .
I switched to Verizon , and have had no problems since .
( I do have a non-usable SIM card Treo , but it was worth the switch .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't use 3G service, only basic mobile telephone service, but T-mobile sucked in my area.
If I were indoors, 90\% of the time I couldn't pick up a signal.
I switched to Verizon, and have had no problems since.
(I do have a non-usable SIM card Treo, but it was worth the switch.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30755712</id>
	<title>This just in!</title>
	<author>greymond</author>
	<datestamp>1263375240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A great phone doesn't mean shit when your only choice for service is a string and tin can.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A great phone does n't mean shit when your only choice for service is a string and tin can .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A great phone doesn't mean shit when your only choice for service is a string and tin can.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30754930</id>
	<title>"Well, yeah," says Google..</title>
	<author>RevWaldo</author>
	<datestamp>1263415440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"Nexus One is still in beta. You gotta expect the odd hiccup or two. (pause) What?"</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Nexus One is still in beta .
You got ta expect the odd hiccup or two .
( pause ) What ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Nexus One is still in beta.
You gotta expect the odd hiccup or two.
(pause) What?
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30755262</id>
	<title>Re:Spotty 3G on T-Mobile?</title>
	<author>zn0k</author>
	<datestamp>1263373560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You're kidding, right?</p><p><a href="http://www.cellularmaps.com/3g\_compare.shtml" title="cellularmaps.com">http://www.cellularmaps.com/3g\_compare.shtml</a> [cellularmaps.com]</p><p>AT&amp;T's 3G coverage is horrible compared to Verizon. T-Mobile's 3G coverage is horrible compared to AT&amp;T.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're kidding , right ? http : //www.cellularmaps.com/3g \ _compare.shtml [ cellularmaps.com ] AT&amp;T 's 3G coverage is horrible compared to Verizon .
T-Mobile 's 3G coverage is horrible compared to AT&amp;T .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're kidding, right?http://www.cellularmaps.com/3g\_compare.shtml [cellularmaps.com]AT&amp;T's 3G coverage is horrible compared to Verizon.
T-Mobile's 3G coverage is horrible compared to AT&amp;T.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30755066</id>
	<title>Re:Spotty 3G on T-Mobile?</title>
	<author>jittles</author>
	<datestamp>1263415920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>I actually had the same problem with my iPhone 3G until the 3.0 OS update came out.  I was lucky to have any signal at my desk sometimes.  Updated to 3.0 and suddenly I had full bars.  Hopefully this is a software issue on the Nexus too.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I actually had the same problem with my iPhone 3G until the 3.0 OS update came out .
I was lucky to have any signal at my desk sometimes .
Updated to 3.0 and suddenly I had full bars .
Hopefully this is a software issue on the Nexus too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I actually had the same problem with my iPhone 3G until the 3.0 OS update came out.
I was lucky to have any signal at my desk sometimes.
Updated to 3.0 and suddenly I had full bars.
Hopefully this is a software issue on the Nexus too.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30754854</id>
	<title>The Heading is Wrong</title>
	<author>DustyShadow</author>
	<datestamp>1263415020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Should be "T-Mobile Service is Terrible No Matter What Phone You Use"</htmltext>
<tokenext>Should be " T-Mobile Service is Terrible No Matter What Phone You Use "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Should be "T-Mobile Service is Terrible No Matter What Phone You Use"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30757704</id>
	<title>Re:Did only whiners buy the Nexus One?</title>
	<author>d0rp</author>
	<datestamp>1263384000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I got my Nexus One the first day it was available, and I haven't experienced any problems what-so-ever. I am very happy with it.
</p><p>And just for completeness: I previously had my RAZR2 on Verizon (though I was looking at getting a Droid or iPhone at the end of the month anyway).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I got my Nexus One the first day it was available , and I have n't experienced any problems what-so-ever .
I am very happy with it .
And just for completeness : I previously had my RAZR2 on Verizon ( though I was looking at getting a Droid or iPhone at the end of the month anyway ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I got my Nexus One the first day it was available, and I haven't experienced any problems what-so-ever.
I am very happy with it.
And just for completeness: I previously had my RAZR2 on Verizon (though I was looking at getting a Droid or iPhone at the end of the month anyway).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30755182</id>
	<title>Re:Spotty 3G on T-Mobile?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263373200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Then the other guy came out with a reliable, fast network. Were we scared? Hell, no. Because we hit back with a little thing called 3G. That's three G's and a touch pad. For touching. But you know what happened next? Shut up, I'm telling you what happened&mdash;the bastards went to four G's. Now we're standing around with our cocks in our hands, selling three G's and a touchpad. Touching or no, suddenly we're the chumps. Well, fuck it. We're going to five G's.

Sure, we could go to four G's next, like the competition. That seems like the logical thing to do. After all, three worked out pretty well, and four is the next number after three. So let's play it safe. Let's make a bigger screen and call it the 3G Turbo. Why innovate when we can follow? Oh, I know why: Because we're a business, that's why!

Stop. I just had a stroke of genius. Are you ready? Open your wallets, baby birds, cause Mama's about to drop you one sweet, fat nightcrawler: $40 Data plans.

You think it's crazy? It is crazy. But I don't give a shit. From now on, we're the ones who have the edge in the cell phone game.  We make the rules.

What part of this don't you understand? If two G's is good, and three G's is better, obviously five G's would make us the best fucking network that ever existed. Comprende? We didn't claw our way to the top of the network game by clinging to the two-G industry standard. We got here by taking chances. Well, five G's is the biggest chance of all.

Here's the report from Engineering. Someone put it in the bathroom: I want to wipe my ass with it. They don't tell me what to invent&mdash;I tell them. And I'm telling them to stick two more G's in there. I don't care how. Make the clients so thin they're invisible. Put some on the handle. I don't care if they have to cram the fifth G in perpendicular to the other four, just do it!

You're taking the "fast" part of "fast network" too literally, grandma. Cut the strings and soar. Let's hit it. Let's roll. This is our chance to make network history. Let's dream big. All you have to do is say that five G's can happen, and it will happen. If you aren't on board, then fuck you. And if you're on the board, then fuck you and your father.

People said we couldn't go to three. It'll cost a fortune to manufacture, they said. Well, we did it. Now some egghead in a lab is screaming "Five's crazy?" Well, perhaps he'd be more comfortable in the labs at Norelco, working on fucking electrics. Rotary phones, my white ass!

Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe we should just ride in Bic's wake and make pens. Ha! Not on your fucking life! The day I shadow a penny-ante outfit like Bic is the day I leave the phone game for good, and that won't happen until the day I die!

The market? Listen, we make the market. All we have to do is put her out there with a little jingle. It's as easy as, "Hey, browsing with anything less than five G's is like scraping your beard off with a dull hatchet." Or "You'll be so well-connected, I could snort lines off of your chin." Try "Your wallet is going to be so friggin' soft, someone's gonna walk up and tie a goddamn Cub Scout kerchief under it."

I know what you're thinking now: What'll people say? Mew mew mew. Oh, no, what will people say?! Grow the fuck up. When you're on top, people talk. That's the price you pay for being on top. Which AT&amp;T is, always has been, and forever shall be, Amen, sweet Jesus in heaven.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Then the other guy came out with a reliable , fast network .
Were we scared ?
Hell , no .
Because we hit back with a little thing called 3G .
That 's three G 's and a touch pad .
For touching .
But you know what happened next ?
Shut up , I 'm telling you what happened    the bastards went to four G 's .
Now we 're standing around with our cocks in our hands , selling three G 's and a touchpad .
Touching or no , suddenly we 're the chumps .
Well , fuck it .
We 're going to five G 's .
Sure , we could go to four G 's next , like the competition .
That seems like the logical thing to do .
After all , three worked out pretty well , and four is the next number after three .
So let 's play it safe .
Let 's make a bigger screen and call it the 3G Turbo .
Why innovate when we can follow ?
Oh , I know why : Because we 're a business , that 's why !
Stop. I just had a stroke of genius .
Are you ready ?
Open your wallets , baby birds , cause Mama 's about to drop you one sweet , fat nightcrawler : $ 40 Data plans .
You think it 's crazy ?
It is crazy .
But I do n't give a shit .
From now on , we 're the ones who have the edge in the cell phone game .
We make the rules .
What part of this do n't you understand ?
If two G 's is good , and three G 's is better , obviously five G 's would make us the best fucking network that ever existed .
Comprende ? We did n't claw our way to the top of the network game by clinging to the two-G industry standard .
We got here by taking chances .
Well , five G 's is the biggest chance of all .
Here 's the report from Engineering .
Someone put it in the bathroom : I want to wipe my ass with it .
They do n't tell me what to invent    I tell them .
And I 'm telling them to stick two more G 's in there .
I do n't care how .
Make the clients so thin they 're invisible .
Put some on the handle .
I do n't care if they have to cram the fifth G in perpendicular to the other four , just do it !
You 're taking the " fast " part of " fast network " too literally , grandma .
Cut the strings and soar .
Let 's hit it .
Let 's roll .
This is our chance to make network history .
Let 's dream big .
All you have to do is say that five G 's can happen , and it will happen .
If you are n't on board , then fuck you .
And if you 're on the board , then fuck you and your father .
People said we could n't go to three .
It 'll cost a fortune to manufacture , they said .
Well , we did it .
Now some egghead in a lab is screaming " Five 's crazy ?
" Well , perhaps he 'd be more comfortable in the labs at Norelco , working on fucking electrics .
Rotary phones , my white ass !
Maybe I 'm wrong .
Maybe we should just ride in Bic 's wake and make pens .
Ha ! Not on your fucking life !
The day I shadow a penny-ante outfit like Bic is the day I leave the phone game for good , and that wo n't happen until the day I die !
The market ?
Listen , we make the market .
All we have to do is put her out there with a little jingle .
It 's as easy as , " Hey , browsing with anything less than five G 's is like scraping your beard off with a dull hatchet .
" Or " You 'll be so well-connected , I could snort lines off of your chin .
" Try " Your wallet is going to be so friggin ' soft , someone 's gon na walk up and tie a goddamn Cub Scout kerchief under it .
" I know what you 're thinking now : What 'll people say ?
Mew mew mew .
Oh , no , what will people say ? !
Grow the fuck up .
When you 're on top , people talk .
That 's the price you pay for being on top .
Which AT&amp;T is , always has been , and forever shall be , Amen , sweet Jesus in heaven .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Then the other guy came out with a reliable, fast network.
Were we scared?
Hell, no.
Because we hit back with a little thing called 3G.
That's three G's and a touch pad.
For touching.
But you know what happened next?
Shut up, I'm telling you what happened—the bastards went to four G's.
Now we're standing around with our cocks in our hands, selling three G's and a touchpad.
Touching or no, suddenly we're the chumps.
Well, fuck it.
We're going to five G's.
Sure, we could go to four G's next, like the competition.
That seems like the logical thing to do.
After all, three worked out pretty well, and four is the next number after three.
So let's play it safe.
Let's make a bigger screen and call it the 3G Turbo.
Why innovate when we can follow?
Oh, I know why: Because we're a business, that's why!
Stop. I just had a stroke of genius.
Are you ready?
Open your wallets, baby birds, cause Mama's about to drop you one sweet, fat nightcrawler: $40 Data plans.
You think it's crazy?
It is crazy.
But I don't give a shit.
From now on, we're the ones who have the edge in the cell phone game.
We make the rules.
What part of this don't you understand?
If two G's is good, and three G's is better, obviously five G's would make us the best fucking network that ever existed.
Comprende? We didn't claw our way to the top of the network game by clinging to the two-G industry standard.
We got here by taking chances.
Well, five G's is the biggest chance of all.
Here's the report from Engineering.
Someone put it in the bathroom: I want to wipe my ass with it.
They don't tell me what to invent—I tell them.
And I'm telling them to stick two more G's in there.
I don't care how.
Make the clients so thin they're invisible.
Put some on the handle.
I don't care if they have to cram the fifth G in perpendicular to the other four, just do it!
You're taking the "fast" part of "fast network" too literally, grandma.
Cut the strings and soar.
Let's hit it.
Let's roll.
This is our chance to make network history.
Let's dream big.
All you have to do is say that five G's can happen, and it will happen.
If you aren't on board, then fuck you.
And if you're on the board, then fuck you and your father.
People said we couldn't go to three.
It'll cost a fortune to manufacture, they said.
Well, we did it.
Now some egghead in a lab is screaming "Five's crazy?
" Well, perhaps he'd be more comfortable in the labs at Norelco, working on fucking electrics.
Rotary phones, my white ass!
Maybe I'm wrong.
Maybe we should just ride in Bic's wake and make pens.
Ha! Not on your fucking life!
The day I shadow a penny-ante outfit like Bic is the day I leave the phone game for good, and that won't happen until the day I die!
The market?
Listen, we make the market.
All we have to do is put her out there with a little jingle.
It's as easy as, "Hey, browsing with anything less than five G's is like scraping your beard off with a dull hatchet.
" Or "You'll be so well-connected, I could snort lines off of your chin.
" Try "Your wallet is going to be so friggin' soft, someone's gonna walk up and tie a goddamn Cub Scout kerchief under it.
"

I know what you're thinking now: What'll people say?
Mew mew mew.
Oh, no, what will people say?!
Grow the fuck up.
When you're on top, people talk.
That's the price you pay for being on top.
Which AT&amp;T is, always has been, and forever shall be, Amen, sweet Jesus in heaven.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30755648</id>
	<title>I don't care about 3G.</title>
	<author>uacsux</author>
	<datestamp>1263374940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I bought it because it rhymes with Lexus.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I bought it because it rhymes with Lexus .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bought it because it rhymes with Lexus.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30755196</id>
	<title>Re:Spotty 3G on T-Mobile?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263373260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It looks like if you don't live within a 15-20 mile radius of a major city you're lucky if you can even get EDGE service.  There are vast portions of Ohio that have *no* coverage at all, not even GSM voice.  Their entire network clusters around the six "big" cities in Ohio and trickles along the interstate highway system, but if you stray away from those areas you get absolutely no coverage at all.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It looks like if you do n't live within a 15-20 mile radius of a major city you 're lucky if you can even get EDGE service .
There are vast portions of Ohio that have * no * coverage at all , not even GSM voice .
Their entire network clusters around the six " big " cities in Ohio and trickles along the interstate highway system , but if you stray away from those areas you get absolutely no coverage at all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It looks like if you don't live within a 15-20 mile radius of a major city you're lucky if you can even get EDGE service.
There are vast portions of Ohio that have *no* coverage at all, not even GSM voice.
Their entire network clusters around the six "big" cities in Ohio and trickles along the interstate highway system, but if you stray away from those areas you get absolutely no coverage at all.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30754708</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30754746</id>
	<title>underpants gnome solved</title>
	<author>ground.zero.612</author>
	<datestamp>1263414600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1) Generate big press response to allegations of corporate and government espionage.</p><p>2) Issue blanket response to public outcry over spotty functionality.</p><p>3) (formerly ?????) Blame China!</p><p>4) Profit!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 ) Generate big press response to allegations of corporate and government espionage.2 ) Issue blanket response to public outcry over spotty functionality.3 ) ( formerly ? ? ? ? ?
) Blame China ! 4 ) Profit !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1) Generate big press response to allegations of corporate and government espionage.2) Issue blanket response to public outcry over spotty functionality.3) (formerly ?????
) Blame China!4) Profit!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30755026</id>
	<title>3g?  How about just some signal, period?</title>
	<author>damn\_registrars</author>
	<datestamp>1263415740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have friends who live in suburban developments near where I live, and I can't get any signal while at their house.  Two blocks in one direction from there is 4 bars, one block in another direction is 3 bars (followed by a dead spot another block past).  I don't give a damn about 3g on T-mobile (as a T-mobile customer) - I just want to be able to use my phone <i>as a phone</i>.  I have a pretty decent signal at home, but I can't very well drive home from anywhere and hold signal all the way home.<br> <br>
And even worse, the coverage maps on T-mobile claim that I should get "good" coverage in these locations where I have no signal.  And this is on a quad-band blackberry.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have friends who live in suburban developments near where I live , and I ca n't get any signal while at their house .
Two blocks in one direction from there is 4 bars , one block in another direction is 3 bars ( followed by a dead spot another block past ) .
I do n't give a damn about 3g on T-mobile ( as a T-mobile customer ) - I just want to be able to use my phone as a phone .
I have a pretty decent signal at home , but I ca n't very well drive home from anywhere and hold signal all the way home .
And even worse , the coverage maps on T-mobile claim that I should get " good " coverage in these locations where I have no signal .
And this is on a quad-band blackberry .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have friends who live in suburban developments near where I live, and I can't get any signal while at their house.
Two blocks in one direction from there is 4 bars, one block in another direction is 3 bars (followed by a dead spot another block past).
I don't give a damn about 3g on T-mobile (as a T-mobile customer) - I just want to be able to use my phone as a phone.
I have a pretty decent signal at home, but I can't very well drive home from anywhere and hold signal all the way home.
And even worse, the coverage maps on T-mobile claim that I should get "good" coverage in these locations where I have no signal.
And this is on a quad-band blackberry.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30760442</id>
	<title>Relativity</title>
	<author>Fnord666</author>
	<datestamp>1263400200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>There's a simple explanation for why Tmobile's coverage fluctuates so much even when you are stationary.  It's all about relativity.  I don't think they actually have any towers, just mobile trucks that circle the city from time to time providing signal.  Think about it.  The signal is fluctuating around like you are driving through the city, only it's not you that's moving, it's the towers!</htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's a simple explanation for why Tmobile 's coverage fluctuates so much even when you are stationary .
It 's all about relativity .
I do n't think they actually have any towers , just mobile trucks that circle the city from time to time providing signal .
Think about it .
The signal is fluctuating around like you are driving through the city , only it 's not you that 's moving , it 's the towers !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's a simple explanation for why Tmobile's coverage fluctuates so much even when you are stationary.
It's all about relativity.
I don't think they actually have any towers, just mobile trucks that circle the city from time to time providing signal.
Think about it.
The signal is fluctuating around like you are driving through the city, only it's not you that's moving, it's the towers!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30756784</id>
	<title>Re:Welcome to reality.</title>
	<author>jtownatpunk.net</author>
	<datestamp>1263379740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Google is your friend.  Each phone and carrier are different.  Search for</p><p>[carrier] lock [phone\_model] in 3g mode</p><p>or something similar.  Most WinMo phones have bandsel.exe hidden and either unhiding it or creating a shortcut to it will restore its functionality.  Tho sometimes it is removed and sometimes it doesn't work properly with that particular phone/carrier combo.  And, obviously, that won't help with non-WinMo phones.  So do a search for your specific setup.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Google is your friend .
Each phone and carrier are different .
Search for [ carrier ] lock [ phone \ _model ] in 3g modeor something similar .
Most WinMo phones have bandsel.exe hidden and either unhiding it or creating a shortcut to it will restore its functionality .
Tho sometimes it is removed and sometimes it does n't work properly with that particular phone/carrier combo .
And , obviously , that wo n't help with non-WinMo phones .
So do a search for your specific setup .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google is your friend.
Each phone and carrier are different.
Search for[carrier] lock [phone\_model] in 3g modeor something similar.
Most WinMo phones have bandsel.exe hidden and either unhiding it or creating a shortcut to it will restore its functionality.
Tho sometimes it is removed and sometimes it doesn't work properly with that particular phone/carrier combo.
And, obviously, that won't help with non-WinMo phones.
So do a search for your specific setup.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30756054</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30756328</id>
	<title>Re:Spotty 3G on T-Mobile?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263377760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>FYI: You just cracked up the core engineering office at Clear.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>FYI : You just cracked up the core engineering office at Clear .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>FYI: You just cracked up the core engineering office at Clear.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30755182</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30754906</id>
	<title>Who knew?</title>
	<author>MongooseKY</author>
	<datestamp>1263415320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>T-Mobile has 3G?</htmltext>
<tokenext>T-Mobile has 3G ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>T-Mobile has 3G?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30758118</id>
	<title>Re:3g? How about just some signal, period?</title>
	<author>visualight</author>
	<datestamp>1263385920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My G1 keeps roaming even though there's no place anywhere I go that doesn't have t-mobile.  I keep having manually selecting T-mobile but when I check back an hour later there's a big R and no data.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My G1 keeps roaming even though there 's no place anywhere I go that does n't have t-mobile .
I keep having manually selecting T-mobile but when I check back an hour later there 's a big R and no data .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My G1 keeps roaming even though there's no place anywhere I go that doesn't have t-mobile.
I keep having manually selecting T-mobile but when I check back an hour later there's a big R and no data.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30755026</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30755744</id>
	<title>DDRROOIIDD</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263375360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I love my Verizon Droid.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I love my Verizon Droid .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I love my Verizon Droid.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30754768</id>
	<title>Never Spotty</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263414660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I post from my phone frequently and never hav</htmltext>
<tokenext>I post from my phone frequently and never hav</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I post from my phone frequently and never hav</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30756570</id>
	<title>A response from Google?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263378720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You got a response from Google about a technical problem with one of their products?</p><p>How the hell did you accomplish that?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You got a response from Google about a technical problem with one of their products ? How the hell did you accomplish that ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You got a response from Google about a technical problem with one of their products?How the hell did you accomplish that?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30755048</id>
	<title>Welcome to reality.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263415860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is the same with every 3G phone on every network I've ever used.  I've had to add (or un-hide) a band selector on every 3G phone I've ever had because the default settings are always designed to lock onto the STRONGEST signal rather than the FASTEST signal.  If I'm going to be doing data-intensive stuff, lock it in 3G.  When I'm done, switch it back to auto.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is the same with every 3G phone on every network I 've ever used .
I 've had to add ( or un-hide ) a band selector on every 3G phone I 've ever had because the default settings are always designed to lock onto the STRONGEST signal rather than the FASTEST signal .
If I 'm going to be doing data-intensive stuff , lock it in 3G .
When I 'm done , switch it back to auto .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is the same with every 3G phone on every network I've ever used.
I've had to add (or un-hide) a band selector on every 3G phone I've ever had because the default settings are always designed to lock onto the STRONGEST signal rather than the FASTEST signal.
If I'm going to be doing data-intensive stuff, lock it in 3G.
When I'm done, switch it back to auto.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30758496</id>
	<title>Re:Spotty 3G on T-Mobile?</title>
	<author>hazydave</author>
	<datestamp>1263387300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This IS a real problem. And no one really talks about this.. except maybe Verizon, because they largely don't have it.</p><p>Ok.. set the way-back machine to the dawn of cellular phone technology. It was all AMPS, the original analog phone service. And it was 850MHz in the USA, 900MHz in Europe, deal done. Each area could support two cellular providers on that band, period. In the USA, one was usually Verizon (and, to a small extent, the companies Verizon sucked up over the years), the other was probably AT&amp;T (and likewise).</p><p>Now, even in this, Verizon was doubly blessed. For one, they started with CDMA, they use CDMA today. Second, the CDMA 3G technology, EvDO, works in the same bandwidth (down to 2.5MHz.. 1.25MHz up, 1.25MHz down) as plain old voice. So every Verizon cell is a 3G cell. Sure, you lose 3G at the fringes, or sometimes when a particular cell is busy, but that's that. And they have the advantage of an 850MHz slot, which means, much more range for the same power. And it works much better in rain, and much, much better through forests and walls. Of course, Verizon also has 1900MHz (1800MHz in Europe) like everyone else.</p><p>AT&amp;T Mobility was successful, but not Verizon successful. Neither was Cingular. Together, though, they made themselves the #2 network in the USA. One small problem: AT&amp;T Mobility used DAMPS, the digital TDMA replacement for AMPS. Cingular used GSM (not originally, but by the time of the merger/acquisition). The proper move forward was GSM, but AT&amp;T had to phase that out. That was also where most of their 850MHz slots were being used. They shut down the last DAMPS cell in 2008.. but had to upgrade them.</p><p>Two problems here, however, One is that DAMPS had greater range than GSM for regular voice/2G stuff. So some parts of today's cell grid from AT&amp;T is not optimal. That's particularly bad on a standard GSM voice call, because GSM does hard handoff--- one cell drops you before the next one picks you up, as you move. If that fails, you drop the call. CDMA, and GSM/3G (UMTS/HSPA) do soft handoffs... the phone is actually connected to multiple cells at once, and one is dropped only when better ones are connected.</p><p>Then there's the GSM 3G technology. You can get that 7.2Mb/s downlink, versus a max of 3.1Mb/s on CDMA, largely because of fatter physical pipes. To see 7.2Mb/s (at least based on AT&amp;Ts set regulation of per-user downlink speeds), you need a full HSPA+ setup, which is two cells bonded together, for a total of 20MHz bandwidth. Even for regular UMTS, you need 10MHz (5MHz up, 5MHz down) for the normal 3G. This meant new spectrum, rather than the CDMA folks being able to re-use their existing spectrum. Kind of.</p><p>AT&amp;T actually had more licenses at 1900MHz, thanks to their merger with Cingular, so they could actually do 10MHz at least, 20MHz in some markets, using 850MHz and/or 1900MHz. So they just did. Which is in opposition to what had been planned, but it was legal.</p><p>Now, enter T-Mobile. They used to be tiny VoiceStream, at the time the only GSM company in the USA. They were acquired by the German Telecom, which might have been a problem, but they got Catherine Zeta Jones as their spokeswoman, and being really happy to see more of her on a regular basis, I know I didn't mind Germans running the thing. Besides, it's not as if the original VoiceStream did much good.</p><p>VoiceStream had a tiny network, and while they built it, they usually only had the single 1900MHz slot. So they didn't the range of AT&amp;T or Verizon. Enter 3G... THEY actually needed the extra spectrum. Which was auctioned off... 1700MHz and 2100MHz. But this took time, of course... they were late to the party. And also, less investment in infrastructure, so even the completed 3G network covers much less.</p><p>At this point, though, you have to ask if 3G even matters. AT&amp;T thinks it does... they're still upgrading their network for 7.2Mb/s HSPA+, and claim they'll have over 30 cities wired with the really fast 3G by mid 2010 (if you're an iPod 3GS user, you</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This IS a real problem .
And no one really talks about this.. except maybe Verizon , because they largely do n't have it.Ok.. set the way-back machine to the dawn of cellular phone technology .
It was all AMPS , the original analog phone service .
And it was 850MHz in the USA , 900MHz in Europe , deal done .
Each area could support two cellular providers on that band , period .
In the USA , one was usually Verizon ( and , to a small extent , the companies Verizon sucked up over the years ) , the other was probably AT&amp;T ( and likewise ) .Now , even in this , Verizon was doubly blessed .
For one , they started with CDMA , they use CDMA today .
Second , the CDMA 3G technology , EvDO , works in the same bandwidth ( down to 2.5MHz.. 1.25MHz up , 1.25MHz down ) as plain old voice .
So every Verizon cell is a 3G cell .
Sure , you lose 3G at the fringes , or sometimes when a particular cell is busy , but that 's that .
And they have the advantage of an 850MHz slot , which means , much more range for the same power .
And it works much better in rain , and much , much better through forests and walls .
Of course , Verizon also has 1900MHz ( 1800MHz in Europe ) like everyone else.AT&amp;T Mobility was successful , but not Verizon successful .
Neither was Cingular .
Together , though , they made themselves the # 2 network in the USA .
One small problem : AT&amp;T Mobility used DAMPS , the digital TDMA replacement for AMPS .
Cingular used GSM ( not originally , but by the time of the merger/acquisition ) .
The proper move forward was GSM , but AT&amp;T had to phase that out .
That was also where most of their 850MHz slots were being used .
They shut down the last DAMPS cell in 2008.. but had to upgrade them.Two problems here , however , One is that DAMPS had greater range than GSM for regular voice/2G stuff .
So some parts of today 's cell grid from AT&amp;T is not optimal .
That 's particularly bad on a standard GSM voice call , because GSM does hard handoff--- one cell drops you before the next one picks you up , as you move .
If that fails , you drop the call .
CDMA , and GSM/3G ( UMTS/HSPA ) do soft handoffs... the phone is actually connected to multiple cells at once , and one is dropped only when better ones are connected.Then there 's the GSM 3G technology .
You can get that 7.2Mb/s downlink , versus a max of 3.1Mb/s on CDMA , largely because of fatter physical pipes .
To see 7.2Mb/s ( at least based on AT&amp;Ts set regulation of per-user downlink speeds ) , you need a full HSPA + setup , which is two cells bonded together , for a total of 20MHz bandwidth .
Even for regular UMTS , you need 10MHz ( 5MHz up , 5MHz down ) for the normal 3G .
This meant new spectrum , rather than the CDMA folks being able to re-use their existing spectrum .
Kind of.AT&amp;T actually had more licenses at 1900MHz , thanks to their merger with Cingular , so they could actually do 10MHz at least , 20MHz in some markets , using 850MHz and/or 1900MHz .
So they just did .
Which is in opposition to what had been planned , but it was legal.Now , enter T-Mobile .
They used to be tiny VoiceStream , at the time the only GSM company in the USA .
They were acquired by the German Telecom , which might have been a problem , but they got Catherine Zeta Jones as their spokeswoman , and being really happy to see more of her on a regular basis , I know I did n't mind Germans running the thing .
Besides , it 's not as if the original VoiceStream did much good.VoiceStream had a tiny network , and while they built it , they usually only had the single 1900MHz slot .
So they did n't the range of AT&amp;T or Verizon .
Enter 3G... THEY actually needed the extra spectrum .
Which was auctioned off... 1700MHz and 2100MHz .
But this took time , of course... they were late to the party .
And also , less investment in infrastructure , so even the completed 3G network covers much less.At this point , though , you have to ask if 3G even matters .
AT&amp;T thinks it does... they 're still upgrading their network for 7.2Mb/s HSPA + , and claim they 'll have over 30 cities wired with the really fast 3G by mid 2010 ( if you 're an iPod 3GS user , you</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This IS a real problem.
And no one really talks about this.. except maybe Verizon, because they largely don't have it.Ok.. set the way-back machine to the dawn of cellular phone technology.
It was all AMPS, the original analog phone service.
And it was 850MHz in the USA, 900MHz in Europe, deal done.
Each area could support two cellular providers on that band, period.
In the USA, one was usually Verizon (and, to a small extent, the companies Verizon sucked up over the years), the other was probably AT&amp;T (and likewise).Now, even in this, Verizon was doubly blessed.
For one, they started with CDMA, they use CDMA today.
Second, the CDMA 3G technology, EvDO, works in the same bandwidth (down to 2.5MHz.. 1.25MHz up, 1.25MHz down) as plain old voice.
So every Verizon cell is a 3G cell.
Sure, you lose 3G at the fringes, or sometimes when a particular cell is busy, but that's that.
And they have the advantage of an 850MHz slot, which means, much more range for the same power.
And it works much better in rain, and much, much better through forests and walls.
Of course, Verizon also has 1900MHz (1800MHz in Europe) like everyone else.AT&amp;T Mobility was successful, but not Verizon successful.
Neither was Cingular.
Together, though, they made themselves the #2 network in the USA.
One small problem: AT&amp;T Mobility used DAMPS, the digital TDMA replacement for AMPS.
Cingular used GSM (not originally, but by the time of the merger/acquisition).
The proper move forward was GSM, but AT&amp;T had to phase that out.
That was also where most of their 850MHz slots were being used.
They shut down the last DAMPS cell in 2008.. but had to upgrade them.Two problems here, however, One is that DAMPS had greater range than GSM for regular voice/2G stuff.
So some parts of today's cell grid from AT&amp;T is not optimal.
That's particularly bad on a standard GSM voice call, because GSM does hard handoff--- one cell drops you before the next one picks you up, as you move.
If that fails, you drop the call.
CDMA, and GSM/3G (UMTS/HSPA) do soft handoffs... the phone is actually connected to multiple cells at once, and one is dropped only when better ones are connected.Then there's the GSM 3G technology.
You can get that 7.2Mb/s downlink, versus a max of 3.1Mb/s on CDMA, largely because of fatter physical pipes.
To see 7.2Mb/s (at least based on AT&amp;Ts set regulation of per-user downlink speeds), you need a full HSPA+ setup, which is two cells bonded together, for a total of 20MHz bandwidth.
Even for regular UMTS, you need 10MHz (5MHz up, 5MHz down) for the normal 3G.
This meant new spectrum, rather than the CDMA folks being able to re-use their existing spectrum.
Kind of.AT&amp;T actually had more licenses at 1900MHz, thanks to their merger with Cingular, so they could actually do 10MHz at least, 20MHz in some markets, using 850MHz and/or 1900MHz.
So they just did.
Which is in opposition to what had been planned, but it was legal.Now, enter T-Mobile.
They used to be tiny VoiceStream, at the time the only GSM company in the USA.
They were acquired by the German Telecom, which might have been a problem, but they got Catherine Zeta Jones as their spokeswoman, and being really happy to see more of her on a regular basis, I know I didn't mind Germans running the thing.
Besides, it's not as if the original VoiceStream did much good.VoiceStream had a tiny network, and while they built it, they usually only had the single 1900MHz slot.
So they didn't the range of AT&amp;T or Verizon.
Enter 3G... THEY actually needed the extra spectrum.
Which was auctioned off... 1700MHz and 2100MHz.
But this took time, of course... they were late to the party.
And also, less investment in infrastructure, so even the completed 3G network covers much less.At this point, though, you have to ask if 3G even matters.
AT&amp;T thinks it does... they're still upgrading their network for 7.2Mb/s HSPA+, and claim they'll have over 30 cities wired with the really fast 3G by mid 2010 (if you're an iPod 3GS user, you</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30756400</id>
	<title>GSM coverage in the US is "suboptimal"</title>
	<author>vanyel</author>
	<datestamp>1263378000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I switched to Sprint from AT&amp;T years ago because of crappy coverage in the switch to digital, but recently caved and got a Cliq from Tmobile.  I'd tried the G1 a year ago, and knew what I was getting into, resigning myself to buying a $300 cellular repeater just so I could use the phone at home.  It's nice having the features in the Cliq (the options from Sprint were too limited for my tastes, and I travel internationally from time to time and wanted a phone that would work globally), and it works well when it *does* have coverage, but I find myself thinking about getting a cheap Sprint phone/plan just so I have a backup option.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I switched to Sprint from AT&amp;T years ago because of crappy coverage in the switch to digital , but recently caved and got a Cliq from Tmobile .
I 'd tried the G1 a year ago , and knew what I was getting into , resigning myself to buying a $ 300 cellular repeater just so I could use the phone at home .
It 's nice having the features in the Cliq ( the options from Sprint were too limited for my tastes , and I travel internationally from time to time and wanted a phone that would work globally ) , and it works well when it * does * have coverage , but I find myself thinking about getting a cheap Sprint phone/plan just so I have a backup option .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I switched to Sprint from AT&amp;T years ago because of crappy coverage in the switch to digital, but recently caved and got a Cliq from Tmobile.
I'd tried the G1 a year ago, and knew what I was getting into, resigning myself to buying a $300 cellular repeater just so I could use the phone at home.
It's nice having the features in the Cliq (the options from Sprint were too limited for my tastes, and I travel internationally from time to time and wanted a phone that would work globally), and it works well when it *does* have coverage, but I find myself thinking about getting a cheap Sprint phone/plan just so I have a backup option.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30759386</id>
	<title>Typical</title>
	<author>tgibbs</author>
	<datestamp>1263391440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Doesn't this happen anytime anybody releases a smartphone that is easy to use? All of a sudden, people are actually using the web browser in their phones, and complaining when their internet access is slow. And the demand for bandwidth goes up, and the weaknesses in coverage and the algorithms the phones use to lock onto the network start to stand out. If history is any guide, these problems will gradually subside after a few months and a couple of system upgrades.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does n't this happen anytime anybody releases a smartphone that is easy to use ?
All of a sudden , people are actually using the web browser in their phones , and complaining when their internet access is slow .
And the demand for bandwidth goes up , and the weaknesses in coverage and the algorithms the phones use to lock onto the network start to stand out .
If history is any guide , these problems will gradually subside after a few months and a couple of system upgrades .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Doesn't this happen anytime anybody releases a smartphone that is easy to use?
All of a sudden, people are actually using the web browser in their phones, and complaining when their internet access is slow.
And the demand for bandwidth goes up, and the weaknesses in coverage and the algorithms the phones use to lock onto the network start to stand out.
If history is any guide, these problems will gradually subside after a few months and a couple of system upgrades.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30755650</id>
	<title>I wish i could get a spotty connection...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263374940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, Seriously, it would be an upgrade...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , Seriously , it would be an upgrade.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, Seriously, it would be an upgrade...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30755136</id>
	<title>Re:Spotty 3G on T-Mobile?</title>
	<author>clone53421</author>
	<datestamp>1263416220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Spotty 3G Signals On T-Mobile?</p><p>There&rsquo;s a map for that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Spotty 3G Signals On T-Mobile ? There    s a map for that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Spotty 3G Signals On T-Mobile?There’s a map for that.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30756472</id>
	<title>Re:Spotty 3G on T-Mobile?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263378300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Real-world TMobile customer here, with a MyTouch 3G.</p><p>I don't have any problem with 3G coverage in Phoenix AZ.  Do I really expect to get 3G coverage outside of the city?  No.  I get EDGE and regular old GSM out on the road and in rural areas, and that's just fine.</p><p>More than anything, I would say that 3G and coverage complaints are an issue of expectation management.  Customers expect wacky things, like their phones to work underground and behind four feet of concrete and metal, or to get 3G in Podunk Alaska.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Real-world TMobile customer here , with a MyTouch 3G.I do n't have any problem with 3G coverage in Phoenix AZ .
Do I really expect to get 3G coverage outside of the city ?
No. I get EDGE and regular old GSM out on the road and in rural areas , and that 's just fine.More than anything , I would say that 3G and coverage complaints are an issue of expectation management .
Customers expect wacky things , like their phones to work underground and behind four feet of concrete and metal , or to get 3G in Podunk Alaska .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Real-world TMobile customer here, with a MyTouch 3G.I don't have any problem with 3G coverage in Phoenix AZ.
Do I really expect to get 3G coverage outside of the city?
No.  I get EDGE and regular old GSM out on the road and in rural areas, and that's just fine.More than anything, I would say that 3G and coverage complaints are an issue of expectation management.
Customers expect wacky things, like their phones to work underground and behind four feet of concrete and metal, or to get 3G in Podunk Alaska.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30755664</id>
	<title>spotty 3g cause of towers?</title>
	<author>Pros\_n\_Cons</author>
	<datestamp>1263375060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>T-mobile in my area has a problem. when my friend called up to complain about his mytouch they said he's between two towers so it bounces back and forth. Something is wrong with their implementation of 3g? I really want a nexus but having my phone being pinged back and forth by two towers would suck. Im even considering putting up a repeater in the attic</htmltext>
<tokenext>T-mobile in my area has a problem .
when my friend called up to complain about his mytouch they said he 's between two towers so it bounces back and forth .
Something is wrong with their implementation of 3g ?
I really want a nexus but having my phone being pinged back and forth by two towers would suck .
Im even considering putting up a repeater in the attic</tokentext>
<sentencetext>T-mobile in my area has a problem.
when my friend called up to complain about his mytouch they said he's between two towers so it bounces back and forth.
Something is wrong with their implementation of 3g?
I really want a nexus but having my phone being pinged back and forth by two towers would suck.
Im even considering putting up a repeater in the attic</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30759402</id>
	<title>Re:3g? How about just some signal, period?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263391500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>May be a defective device?</htmltext>
<tokenext>May be a defective device ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>May be a defective device?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30756284</id>
	<title>Spotty Coverage on TMobile</title>
	<author>rec9140</author>
	<datestamp>1263377520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Who would have guessed that there would be spotty coverage on TMobile.</p><p>More like NO COVERAGE.</p><p>They are DISTANT 4th in the US marketplace among national level carriers.</p><p>There are regional carriers which have far more coverage in their region than TMobile as a whole.</p><p>Next time pick a REAL CARRIER, translation VERIZON!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Who would have guessed that there would be spotty coverage on TMobile.More like NO COVERAGE.They are DISTANT 4th in the US marketplace among national level carriers.There are regional carriers which have far more coverage in their region than TMobile as a whole.Next time pick a REAL CARRIER , translation VERIZON !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who would have guessed that there would be spotty coverage on TMobile.More like NO COVERAGE.They are DISTANT 4th in the US marketplace among national level carriers.There are regional carriers which have far more coverage in their region than TMobile as a whole.Next time pick a REAL CARRIER, translation VERIZON!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30755802</id>
	<title>Re:it's still in beta</title>
	<author>hydertech</author>
	<datestamp>1263375600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You would have thought that before releasing this critter Google would have googled it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You would have thought that before releasing this critter Google would have googled it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You would have thought that before releasing this critter Google would have googled it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30754708</id>
	<title>Spotty 3G on T-Mobile?</title>
	<author>dgatwood</author>
	<datestamp>1263414480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, really?</p><p>Have you seen their coverage maps?  They make AT&amp;T look good.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , really ? Have you seen their coverage maps ?
They make AT&amp;T look good .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, really?Have you seen their coverage maps?
They make AT&amp;T look good.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30755974</id>
	<title>t-mobile's data coverage map</title>
	<author>farble1670</author>
	<datestamp>1263376200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://coverage.t-mobile.com/default.aspx?MapType=Data" title="t-mobile.com">http://coverage.t-mobile.com/default.aspx?MapType=Data</a> [t-mobile.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //coverage.t-mobile.com/default.aspx ? MapType = Data [ t-mobile.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://coverage.t-mobile.com/default.aspx?MapType=Data [t-mobile.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30754752</id>
	<title>they can stop looking</title>
	<author>girlintraining</author>
	<datestamp>1263414660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They can stop looking. Either the signal processor is of poor quality, or the antenna is too short. AT&amp;T <i>typically</i> runs at a lower frequency than T-mobile, which means the signal attenuation is greater. The two GSM bands in use in the US are 850 and 1900 Mhz.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They can stop looking .
Either the signal processor is of poor quality , or the antenna is too short .
AT&amp;T typically runs at a lower frequency than T-mobile , which means the signal attenuation is greater .
The two GSM bands in use in the US are 850 and 1900 Mhz .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They can stop looking.
Either the signal processor is of poor quality, or the antenna is too short.
AT&amp;T typically runs at a lower frequency than T-mobile, which means the signal attenuation is greater.
The two GSM bands in use in the US are 850 and 1900 Mhz.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30756446</id>
	<title>Re:Spotty 3G on T-Mobile?</title>
	<author>ppanon</author>
	<datestamp>1263378180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>And to some degree, the cell companies probably like it this way because it makes it harder for new competitors to build phones that work.</p></div></blockquote><p>This.</p><p>In fact the current state you describe is almost certainly due to cell manufacturers. It's not just about barriers to entry but also about competitive advantage. Otherwise the first adopters of new chips would spend lots of money on bug fixing in development. In contrast, their competitors would be able to release shortly afterwards with the shared firmware bug fixes and price their product lower because they wouldn't need to amortize the debugging costs that the first mover had to absorb. A manufacturer would only let that happen to them once, then they would find another supplier that didn't work that way. It's an interesting variant on the tragedy of the commons.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>And to some degree , the cell companies probably like it this way because it makes it harder for new competitors to build phones that work.This.In fact the current state you describe is almost certainly due to cell manufacturers .
It 's not just about barriers to entry but also about competitive advantage .
Otherwise the first adopters of new chips would spend lots of money on bug fixing in development .
In contrast , their competitors would be able to release shortly afterwards with the shared firmware bug fixes and price their product lower because they would n't need to amortize the debugging costs that the first mover had to absorb .
A manufacturer would only let that happen to them once , then they would find another supplier that did n't work that way .
It 's an interesting variant on the tragedy of the commons .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And to some degree, the cell companies probably like it this way because it makes it harder for new competitors to build phones that work.This.In fact the current state you describe is almost certainly due to cell manufacturers.
It's not just about barriers to entry but also about competitive advantage.
Otherwise the first adopters of new chips would spend lots of money on bug fixing in development.
In contrast, their competitors would be able to release shortly afterwards with the shared firmware bug fixes and price their product lower because they wouldn't need to amortize the debugging costs that the first mover had to absorb.
A manufacturer would only let that happen to them once, then they would find another supplier that didn't work that way.
It's an interesting variant on the tragedy of the commons.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30758190</id>
	<title>Re:Spotty 3G on T-Mobile?</title>
	<author>fermion</author>
	<datestamp>1263386100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>While I am every bit the conspiracy theorist, we do need to look at reality.  The reality is that Google products are in infinite beta.  They only have to work well enough to get by, and if data is lost it does mean the end of their business.  No one is going to know if a server went down and the search results are different than if the serve was up.  Mail accounts are deleted ad hoc, and they are only truly responsible for the few paying end users.
<p>
What does this mean?  Cell phones are pretty much embedded devices that must work when they leave the factory floor.  They can't easily be mussed with after the fact.  This is less true of smart phones, but the standard policy of throwing code together to ship a product and then making it work does not really work with cell phones.  People do not expect to debug phones in the way that we have to debug general purpose computers.  We expect it to do what it does.
</p><p>
Even MS, who should <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/mspress/books/1024.aspx" title="microsoft.com">know how to write code</a> [microsoft.com] had trouble getting a reliable code base together.  Apple barely did it, but people tend to be tolerant of less function if the machine is pretty, even I so do.  But google, who, as far as I know, does not do 100\% uptime embedded devices is competing against companies who have been doing this for maybe longer than the google founders have been alive.
</p><p>
It is only to be expected that they do not have the know how to integrate the components into a reliable stack.  Reaching for conspiracy theories and collusion and copyright abuse is simply disrespecting the complexity of the job.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>While I am every bit the conspiracy theorist , we do need to look at reality .
The reality is that Google products are in infinite beta .
They only have to work well enough to get by , and if data is lost it does mean the end of their business .
No one is going to know if a server went down and the search results are different than if the serve was up .
Mail accounts are deleted ad hoc , and they are only truly responsible for the few paying end users .
What does this mean ?
Cell phones are pretty much embedded devices that must work when they leave the factory floor .
They ca n't easily be mussed with after the fact .
This is less true of smart phones , but the standard policy of throwing code together to ship a product and then making it work does not really work with cell phones .
People do not expect to debug phones in the way that we have to debug general purpose computers .
We expect it to do what it does .
Even MS , who should know how to write code [ microsoft.com ] had trouble getting a reliable code base together .
Apple barely did it , but people tend to be tolerant of less function if the machine is pretty , even I so do .
But google , who , as far as I know , does not do 100 \ % uptime embedded devices is competing against companies who have been doing this for maybe longer than the google founders have been alive .
It is only to be expected that they do not have the know how to integrate the components into a reliable stack .
Reaching for conspiracy theories and collusion and copyright abuse is simply disrespecting the complexity of the job .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While I am every bit the conspiracy theorist, we do need to look at reality.
The reality is that Google products are in infinite beta.
They only have to work well enough to get by, and if data is lost it does mean the end of their business.
No one is going to know if a server went down and the search results are different than if the serve was up.
Mail accounts are deleted ad hoc, and they are only truly responsible for the few paying end users.
What does this mean?
Cell phones are pretty much embedded devices that must work when they leave the factory floor.
They can't easily be mussed with after the fact.
This is less true of smart phones, but the standard policy of throwing code together to ship a product and then making it work does not really work with cell phones.
People do not expect to debug phones in the way that we have to debug general purpose computers.
We expect it to do what it does.
Even MS, who should know how to write code [microsoft.com] had trouble getting a reliable code base together.
Apple barely did it, but people tend to be tolerant of less function if the machine is pretty, even I so do.
But google, who, as far as I know, does not do 100\% uptime embedded devices is competing against companies who have been doing this for maybe longer than the google founders have been alive.
It is only to be expected that they do not have the know how to integrate the components into a reliable stack.
Reaching for conspiracy theories and collusion and copyright abuse is simply disrespecting the complexity of the job.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30757930</id>
	<title>Re:Spotty 3G on T-Mobile?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263385140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yeah, sure AT&amp;T may look good.....

Until you try to connect (in a 3G location). Then you realize that Nexus One guy on the same bus is watching youtube videos while downloading emails, even if he's on Edge.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , sure AT&amp;T may look good.... . Until you try to connect ( in a 3G location ) .
Then you realize that Nexus One guy on the same bus is watching youtube videos while downloading emails , even if he 's on Edge .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, sure AT&amp;T may look good.....

Until you try to connect (in a 3G location).
Then you realize that Nexus One guy on the same bus is watching youtube videos while downloading emails, even if he's on Edge.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30755760</id>
	<title>Re:they can stop looking</title>
	<author>drijen</author>
	<datestamp>1263375420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wrong. Tmo uses 1700 and 2100.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wrong .
Tmo uses 1700 and 2100 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wrong.
Tmo uses 1700 and 2100.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30755848</id>
	<title>3g, no g</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263375780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>EVERYONE has reported spotty 3G coverage with T-mobile...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>EVERYONE has reported spotty 3G coverage with T-mobile.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>EVERYONE has reported spotty 3G coverage with T-mobile...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30756998</id>
	<title>Re:Never Spotty</title>
	<author>Paul Carver</author>
	<datestamp>1263380700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I bet you're wishing that your connection had dropped out just before you clicked submit so that you wouldn't have uploaded that incomplete comment. Too bad that your connection was so reliable that it successfully uploaded your comment as soon as you hit the button.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I bet you 're wishing that your connection had dropped out just before you clicked submit so that you would n't have uploaded that incomplete comment .
Too bad that your connection was so reliable that it successfully uploaded your comment as soon as you hit the button .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bet you're wishing that your connection had dropped out just before you clicked submit so that you wouldn't have uploaded that incomplete comment.
Too bad that your connection was so reliable that it successfully uploaded your comment as soon as you hit the button.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30755480</id>
	<title>Re:Spotty 3G on T-Mobile?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263374340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>No, really?<br>
<br>
Have you seen their coverage maps? They make AT&amp;T look good.</p></div></blockquote><p>If you even bothered to read the summary, you would know that the Nexus One is having a hard time keeping a 3G signal even in places where other T-Mobile 3G phones pick it up just fine. The Nexus One owners aren't complaining that T-Mobile's 3G coverage is bad (although that's a valid complaint as well), they're complaining that the coverage is even worse with this specific phone.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>No , really ?
Have you seen their coverage maps ?
They make AT&amp;T look good.If you even bothered to read the summary , you would know that the Nexus One is having a hard time keeping a 3G signal even in places where other T-Mobile 3G phones pick it up just fine .
The Nexus One owners are n't complaining that T-Mobile 's 3G coverage is bad ( although that 's a valid complaint as well ) , they 're complaining that the coverage is even worse with this specific phone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, really?
Have you seen their coverage maps?
They make AT&amp;T look good.If you even bothered to read the summary, you would know that the Nexus One is having a hard time keeping a 3G signal even in places where other T-Mobile 3G phones pick it up just fine.
The Nexus One owners aren't complaining that T-Mobile's 3G coverage is bad (although that's a valid complaint as well), they're complaining that the coverage is even worse with this specific phone.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_13_1915242.30755946</id>
	<title>2nd!</title>
	<author>raehl</author>
	<datestamp>1263376080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have a 3G phone as well as a 3G broadband modem (a couple actually)  The modems are configured to go for 3G at all costs, and I find they do a much better job at sticking to 3G than phones do.</p><p>For phones, it's really a no-win situation... do you want customers to be pissed that their data rate stinks or that their call quality/total connectivity stinks?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a 3G phone as well as a 3G broadband modem ( a couple actually ) The modems are configured to go for 3G at all costs , and I find they do a much better job at sticking to 3G than phones do.For phones , it 's really a no-win situation... do you want customers to be pissed that their data rate stinks or that their call quality/total connectivity stinks ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a 3G phone as well as a 3G broadband modem (a couple actually)  The modems are configured to go for 3G at all costs, and I find they do a much better job at sticking to 3G than phones do.For phones, it's really a no-win situation... do you want customers to be pissed that their data rate stinks or that their call quality/total connectivity stinks?</sentencetext>
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