<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_01_11_1731208</id>
	<title>Asus Promises 12-Hour Battery Life In New High-End Laptop</title>
	<author>ScuttleMonkey</author>
	<datestamp>1263199320000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>Asus' new high-end laptop could finally be the traveler's best accoutrement, touting <a href="http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2010/01/asus-laptop-makes-intel-nvidia-gpus-work-together.ars">twelve-hour battery life</a> thanks to intelligent, second-by-second switching between the two GPUs and automatic, on-the-fly re-clocking of the Intel Core i7 CPU.  All this also comes in with a price tag of just over $1,000.  <i>"ASUS's solution is different because it's user-transparent; even a novice user will get the fullest possible benefit because the laptop itself is deciding when to switch.  The same principle applies to the dynamic CPU clocking. ASUS includes a desktop widget to track CPU clock speed. While using the UL80JT, I could see it moving up and down with what I did; up with program openings and CPU-intensive processes, and way down at idle. Between the GPU switching, dynamic clocking, and ASUS's other power management features, the UL80JT manages to consume less than half as much power as the unibody Macbook while browsing."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>Asus ' new high-end laptop could finally be the traveler 's best accoutrement , touting twelve-hour battery life thanks to intelligent , second-by-second switching between the two GPUs and automatic , on-the-fly re-clocking of the Intel Core i7 CPU .
All this also comes in with a price tag of just over $ 1,000 .
" ASUS 's solution is different because it 's user-transparent ; even a novice user will get the fullest possible benefit because the laptop itself is deciding when to switch .
The same principle applies to the dynamic CPU clocking .
ASUS includes a desktop widget to track CPU clock speed .
While using the UL80JT , I could see it moving up and down with what I did ; up with program openings and CPU-intensive processes , and way down at idle .
Between the GPU switching , dynamic clocking , and ASUS 's other power management features , the UL80JT manages to consume less than half as much power as the unibody Macbook while browsing .
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<sentencetext>Asus' new high-end laptop could finally be the traveler's best accoutrement, touting twelve-hour battery life thanks to intelligent, second-by-second switching between the two GPUs and automatic, on-the-fly re-clocking of the Intel Core i7 CPU.
All this also comes in with a price tag of just over $1,000.
"ASUS's solution is different because it's user-transparent; even a novice user will get the fullest possible benefit because the laptop itself is deciding when to switch.
The same principle applies to the dynamic CPU clocking.
ASUS includes a desktop widget to track CPU clock speed.
While using the UL80JT, I could see it moving up and down with what I did; up with program openings and CPU-intensive processes, and way down at idle.
Between the GPU switching, dynamic clocking, and ASUS's other power management features, the UL80JT manages to consume less than half as much power as the unibody Macbook while browsing.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30729646</id>
	<title>PROMISE is the key word.</title>
	<author>MrCrassic</author>
	<datestamp>1263207840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A company can promise lots of things. Most companies hope that people forget those promises. The real question is whether they'll follow through or not.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A company can promise lots of things .
Most companies hope that people forget those promises .
The real question is whether they 'll follow through or not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A company can promise lots of things.
Most companies hope that people forget those promises.
The real question is whether they'll follow through or not.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30728456</id>
	<title>Lies. Slander.</title>
	<author>girlintraining</author>
	<datestamp>1263203580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>thanks to intelligent, second-by-second, switching between the two GPUs and automatic on-the-fly re-clocking of the Intel Core i7 CPU. All this also comes in with a price tag of just over $1,000.</p></div><p>So what they're saying is... as long as you don't use the laptop for anything more sophisticated than notepad, you'll get 12 hours. How about watching DVDs? How long will it last then? -\_-</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>thanks to intelligent , second-by-second , switching between the two GPUs and automatic on-the-fly re-clocking of the Intel Core i7 CPU .
All this also comes in with a price tag of just over $ 1,000.So what they 're saying is... as long as you do n't use the laptop for anything more sophisticated than notepad , you 'll get 12 hours .
How about watching DVDs ?
How long will it last then ?
- \ _-</tokentext>
<sentencetext>thanks to intelligent, second-by-second, switching between the two GPUs and automatic on-the-fly re-clocking of the Intel Core i7 CPU.
All this also comes in with a price tag of just over $1,000.So what they're saying is... as long as you don't use the laptop for anything more sophisticated than notepad, you'll get 12 hours.
How about watching DVDs?
How long will it last then?
-\_-
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30729622</id>
	<title>Re:CPU downclocking is not news</title>
	<author>Jeng</author>
	<datestamp>1263207720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm not sure how old my motherboard is but seamlessly switching between GPU's isn't even that new.</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATI\_Hybrid\_Graphics" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATI\_Hybrid\_Graphics</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not sure how old my motherboard is but seamlessly switching between GPU 's is n't even that new.http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATI \ _Hybrid \ _Graphics [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not sure how old my motherboard is but seamlessly switching between GPU's isn't even that new.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATI\_Hybrid\_Graphics [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30739328</id>
	<title>Re:Lies. Slander.</title>
	<author>bill\_mcgonigle</author>
	<datestamp>1263319800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>How about watching DVDs? How long will it last then? -\_-</i></p><p>you care about better battery life and you insist on spinning bits of plastic through the air to achieve it?</p><p>I suspect you really care about watching movies.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How about watching DVDs ?
How long will it last then ?
- \ _-you care about better battery life and you insist on spinning bits of plastic through the air to achieve it ? I suspect you really care about watching movies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about watching DVDs?
How long will it last then?
-\_-you care about better battery life and you insist on spinning bits of plastic through the air to achieve it?I suspect you really care about watching movies.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30728652</id>
	<title>Re:CPU downclocking is not news</title>
	<author>m85476585</author>
	<datestamp>1263204240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The latest processors have greatly improved power management features.  My Pentium 4 3GHz used something like 20 watts idle according to my motherboard's power meter utility.  My new Core 2 Quad (9550) uses about 6-9 watts idle, and it's overclocked to 3.4GHz.  A lot of the improvement in these laptops may come from Intel, since there's only so much Asus can do.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The latest processors have greatly improved power management features .
My Pentium 4 3GHz used something like 20 watts idle according to my motherboard 's power meter utility .
My new Core 2 Quad ( 9550 ) uses about 6-9 watts idle , and it 's overclocked to 3.4GHz .
A lot of the improvement in these laptops may come from Intel , since there 's only so much Asus can do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The latest processors have greatly improved power management features.
My Pentium 4 3GHz used something like 20 watts idle according to my motherboard's power meter utility.
My new Core 2 Quad (9550) uses about 6-9 watts idle, and it's overclocked to 3.4GHz.
A lot of the improvement in these laptops may come from Intel, since there's only so much Asus can do.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30728580</id>
	<title>Asus battery life claims believable</title>
	<author>jasonwc</author>
	<datestamp>1263204000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have an Asus U80 laptop ($650) with a stated battery life of 7 hours (without Wifi). I've gotten 6 hours with Wifi and 8 hours without. Even with fairly heavy web browsing and CPU usage, I can get 4-5 hours in Battery mode. Thus, while many battery life claims are bullshit, I am inclined to believe Asus. Note that Asus uses some proprietary Windows software to reduce power usage. Without the software, the battery lasted 33-50\% less.</p><p>As an aside, they also have excellent RMA service. I discovered that my laptop drive had several bad sectors. I called Asus, and after less than a 5 minute wait was talking to a human being. I explained that a low-level drive scan showed several bad sectors on the drive, and that this indicated a hardware rather than software problem. Rather than having me reinstall Windows, or some other bs, I was told I could return the laptop or the bare drive for service with a 2-3 day turnaround. I shipped the bare drive, and received a replacement 2 business days after they received the RMA drive. Not bad.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have an Asus U80 laptop ( $ 650 ) with a stated battery life of 7 hours ( without Wifi ) .
I 've gotten 6 hours with Wifi and 8 hours without .
Even with fairly heavy web browsing and CPU usage , I can get 4-5 hours in Battery mode .
Thus , while many battery life claims are bullshit , I am inclined to believe Asus .
Note that Asus uses some proprietary Windows software to reduce power usage .
Without the software , the battery lasted 33-50 \ % less.As an aside , they also have excellent RMA service .
I discovered that my laptop drive had several bad sectors .
I called Asus , and after less than a 5 minute wait was talking to a human being .
I explained that a low-level drive scan showed several bad sectors on the drive , and that this indicated a hardware rather than software problem .
Rather than having me reinstall Windows , or some other bs , I was told I could return the laptop or the bare drive for service with a 2-3 day turnaround .
I shipped the bare drive , and received a replacement 2 business days after they received the RMA drive .
Not bad .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have an Asus U80 laptop ($650) with a stated battery life of 7 hours (without Wifi).
I've gotten 6 hours with Wifi and 8 hours without.
Even with fairly heavy web browsing and CPU usage, I can get 4-5 hours in Battery mode.
Thus, while many battery life claims are bullshit, I am inclined to believe Asus.
Note that Asus uses some proprietary Windows software to reduce power usage.
Without the software, the battery lasted 33-50\% less.As an aside, they also have excellent RMA service.
I discovered that my laptop drive had several bad sectors.
I called Asus, and after less than a 5 minute wait was talking to a human being.
I explained that a low-level drive scan showed several bad sectors on the drive, and that this indicated a hardware rather than software problem.
Rather than having me reinstall Windows, or some other bs, I was told I could return the laptop or the bare drive for service with a 2-3 day turnaround.
I shipped the bare drive, and received a replacement 2 business days after they received the RMA drive.
Not bad.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30728512</id>
	<title>holy shit man holy shit</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263203760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>can you imagine it using your computer and seeing the cpu speed actually like CHANGE as you do shit man what a trip someone tell those gnome people those boys ought to make an applet or something that did that but i bet it wouldn't work because of the illuminati keeping the acpi out of the linus' garden with the deer eating the bushes in the snow wow it would be cool so cool</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>can you imagine it using your computer and seeing the cpu speed actually like CHANGE as you do shit man what a trip someone tell those gnome people those boys ought to make an applet or something that did that but i bet it would n't work because of the illuminati keeping the acpi out of the linus ' garden with the deer eating the bushes in the snow wow it would be cool so cool</tokentext>
<sentencetext>can you imagine it using your computer and seeing the cpu speed actually like CHANGE as you do shit man what a trip someone tell those gnome people those boys ought to make an applet or something that did that but i bet it wouldn't work because of the illuminati keeping the acpi out of the linus' garden with the deer eating the bushes in the snow wow it would be cool so cool</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30728788</id>
	<title>Re:Vendor promises</title>
	<author>Colonel Korn</author>
	<datestamp>1263204660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Vendors promise all sorts of things.  That doesn't make them true.  I'll believe it when I see Tom's Hardware or someone equally competent test one of these things and they actually <em>get</em> 12 hours.</p><p>Until then, I'll file this one under "vendors promise the world".</p></div><p>If you want competency, you might check with Anand instead of Tom.

My 1005HA EEEPC has more battery life than Asus claimed (I get 11 hours just typing in notepad with the radio off), so I wouldn't be surprised if the 12 hour claim were true.  Keep in mind that the quoted number is always for minimal usage.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Vendors promise all sorts of things .
That does n't make them true .
I 'll believe it when I see Tom 's Hardware or someone equally competent test one of these things and they actually get 12 hours.Until then , I 'll file this one under " vendors promise the world " .If you want competency , you might check with Anand instead of Tom .
My 1005HA EEEPC has more battery life than Asus claimed ( I get 11 hours just typing in notepad with the radio off ) , so I would n't be surprised if the 12 hour claim were true .
Keep in mind that the quoted number is always for minimal usage .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Vendors promise all sorts of things.
That doesn't make them true.
I'll believe it when I see Tom's Hardware or someone equally competent test one of these things and they actually get 12 hours.Until then, I'll file this one under "vendors promise the world".If you want competency, you might check with Anand instead of Tom.
My 1005HA EEEPC has more battery life than Asus claimed (I get 11 hours just typing in notepad with the radio off), so I wouldn't be surprised if the 12 hour claim were true.
Keep in mind that the quoted number is always for minimal usage.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30729046</id>
	<title>am i missing something?</title>
	<author>zmollusc</author>
	<datestamp>1263205680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Can't long endurance laptops be easily built by designing in a larger capacity battery?<br>How large a proportion of the laptop's cost is the battery?<br>Surely if there is a big demand for battery life the manufacturers can just make a thicker, heavier version of a current laptop for a hundred bucks more?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ca n't long endurance laptops be easily built by designing in a larger capacity battery ? How large a proportion of the laptop 's cost is the battery ? Surely if there is a big demand for battery life the manufacturers can just make a thicker , heavier version of a current laptop for a hundred bucks more ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can't long endurance laptops be easily built by designing in a larger capacity battery?How large a proportion of the laptop's cost is the battery?Surely if there is a big demand for battery life the manufacturers can just make a thicker, heavier version of a current laptop for a hundred bucks more?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30731652</id>
	<title>Re:Turbo Button</title>
	<author>selven</author>
	<datestamp>1263218100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My CPU goes up to eleven.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My CPU goes up to eleven .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My CPU goes up to eleven.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30728570</id>
	<title>How long on a Low end laptop</title>
	<author>Alain Williams</author>
	<datestamp>1263203940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>If they can do 12 hours on a laptop that, presumably, has a fast CPU &amp; stuff - how long could they go on a laptop with a modest CPU ?<p>
These guys always seem to want to show <b>speed</b> and <b>power</b> in a laptop -- but what I need in a laptop is <b>long battery life</b>. How much CPU does it take to do a bit of web browsing, run up emacs &amp; ssh. I have a PC at home or stuff that I ssh to if I need to do fast compiles or run databases &amp; other heavy stuff. These guys just don't get it, I thought they had when they brought out the original eeepc -- but subsequent models have just turned to bloat (OK: I do like the larger screens, but that is all).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If they can do 12 hours on a laptop that , presumably , has a fast CPU &amp; stuff - how long could they go on a laptop with a modest CPU ?
These guys always seem to want to show speed and power in a laptop -- but what I need in a laptop is long battery life .
How much CPU does it take to do a bit of web browsing , run up emacs &amp; ssh .
I have a PC at home or stuff that I ssh to if I need to do fast compiles or run databases &amp; other heavy stuff .
These guys just do n't get it , I thought they had when they brought out the original eeepc -- but subsequent models have just turned to bloat ( OK : I do like the larger screens , but that is all ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If they can do 12 hours on a laptop that, presumably, has a fast CPU &amp; stuff - how long could they go on a laptop with a modest CPU ?
These guys always seem to want to show speed and power in a laptop -- but what I need in a laptop is long battery life.
How much CPU does it take to do a bit of web browsing, run up emacs &amp; ssh.
I have a PC at home or stuff that I ssh to if I need to do fast compiles or run databases &amp; other heavy stuff.
These guys just don't get it, I thought they had when they brought out the original eeepc -- but subsequent models have just turned to bloat (OK: I do like the larger screens, but that is all).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30733050</id>
	<title>And who can you trust if not Asus?</title>
	<author>Exp315</author>
	<datestamp>1263228660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>After all, their promises on the battery life of previous models have been so conservative!</htmltext>
<tokenext>After all , their promises on the battery life of previous models have been so conservative !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>After all, their promises on the battery life of previous models have been so conservative!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30733442</id>
	<title>Re:Just over $1,000</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263232200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I bought a Lenovo laptop a few weeks ago with an i7, Nvidia 240M, 4 GB of RAM and a 500 GB hard drive for $999.  If that isn't high end, I'm not sure what would qualify.</p></div><p>My XPS M1730 purchased April 09. Optioned out.</p><p>25 minutes baby, thats all she wrote on  the batt.</p><p>Nah,not wealthy or (entirely) stupid, in fact very few people know I own it.</p><p>Disclaimer: Yes, yes...apples and oranges here. I know.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I bought a Lenovo laptop a few weeks ago with an i7 , Nvidia 240M , 4 GB of RAM and a 500 GB hard drive for $ 999 .
If that is n't high end , I 'm not sure what would qualify.My XPS M1730 purchased April 09 .
Optioned out.25 minutes baby , thats all she wrote on the batt.Nah,not wealthy or ( entirely ) stupid , in fact very few people know I own it.Disclaimer : Yes , yes...apples and oranges here .
I know .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bought a Lenovo laptop a few weeks ago with an i7, Nvidia 240M, 4 GB of RAM and a 500 GB hard drive for $999.
If that isn't high end, I'm not sure what would qualify.My XPS M1730 purchased April 09.
Optioned out.25 minutes baby, thats all she wrote on  the batt.Nah,not wealthy or (entirely) stupid, in fact very few people know I own it.Disclaimer: Yes, yes...apples and oranges here.
I know.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30729832</id>
	<title>Re:Vendor promises</title>
	<author>need4mospd</author>
	<datestamp>1263208500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>But who just types in notepad for 11 hours on a "high end" laptop? I'd assume that buyers of a "high end"laptop would actually be using it for, you know, "high end" applications. What use is it for performance users when it lasts just as long as any other laptop when running full power?</htmltext>
<tokenext>But who just types in notepad for 11 hours on a " high end " laptop ?
I 'd assume that buyers of a " high end " laptop would actually be using it for , you know , " high end " applications .
What use is it for performance users when it lasts just as long as any other laptop when running full power ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But who just types in notepad for 11 hours on a "high end" laptop?
I'd assume that buyers of a "high end"laptop would actually be using it for, you know, "high end" applications.
What use is it for performance users when it lasts just as long as any other laptop when running full power?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30732528</id>
	<title>Re:How good/bad is their acpi implementation?</title>
	<author>Simploid</author>
	<datestamp>1263224460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Anandtech has a review of this and they seems to be pretty impressed with it. They proclaimed it their favorite laptop.
<p>
<a href="http://www.anandtech.com/mobile/showdoc.aspx?i=3689" title="anandtech.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.anandtech.com/mobile/showdoc.aspx?i=3689</a> [anandtech.com]
</p><p>
Here is the opening sentence of their conclusion:<br>
"Right now, the ASUS UL80Vt is the high water mark for a do-everything laptop: office, gaming, and mobility are all handled with aplomb."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Anandtech has a review of this and they seems to be pretty impressed with it .
They proclaimed it their favorite laptop .
http : //www.anandtech.com/mobile/showdoc.aspx ? i = 3689 [ anandtech.com ] Here is the opening sentence of their conclusion : " Right now , the ASUS UL80Vt is the high water mark for a do-everything laptop : office , gaming , and mobility are all handled with aplomb .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anandtech has a review of this and they seems to be pretty impressed with it.
They proclaimed it their favorite laptop.
http://www.anandtech.com/mobile/showdoc.aspx?i=3689 [anandtech.com]

Here is the opening sentence of their conclusion:
"Right now, the ASUS UL80Vt is the high water mark for a do-everything laptop: office, gaming, and mobility are all handled with aplomb.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30730206</id>
	<title>Re:Vendor promises</title>
	<author>Gud</author>
	<datestamp>1263210120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have ASUS UL80VT and have had it for over a month, it promised 10 hours, I have used in the office whole<br>day without charging, that is email, web, coding, jabber, and meetings using WiFi, my guess is I used the<br>computer for about 6 hours, and 3 hours standing idle/sleeping and there was still some juice left and I got<br>2 hours at home out of the same charge, that is close enough to 10 hours for me, this was in power saver mode.<br>I like the switching between the two graphics chips, works like a charm, for most applications there is no<br>need for the fast one.<br>I have got about 5 hours of game playing in on battery with the fast graphics on.<br>My only issue with the machine is that I do not care for the "mouse" buttons, but a USB mouse<br>solved that problem when lots of clicking is needed.</p><p>In short I like this machine a lot and highly recommend it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have ASUS UL80VT and have had it for over a month , it promised 10 hours , I have used in the office wholeday without charging , that is email , web , coding , jabber , and meetings using WiFi , my guess is I used thecomputer for about 6 hours , and 3 hours standing idle/sleeping and there was still some juice left and I got2 hours at home out of the same charge , that is close enough to 10 hours for me , this was in power saver mode.I like the switching between the two graphics chips , works like a charm , for most applications there is noneed for the fast one.I have got about 5 hours of game playing in on battery with the fast graphics on.My only issue with the machine is that I do not care for the " mouse " buttons , but a USB mousesolved that problem when lots of clicking is needed.In short I like this machine a lot and highly recommend it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have ASUS UL80VT and have had it for over a month, it promised 10 hours, I have used in the office wholeday without charging, that is email, web, coding, jabber, and meetings using WiFi, my guess is I used thecomputer for about 6 hours, and 3 hours standing idle/sleeping and there was still some juice left and I got2 hours at home out of the same charge, that is close enough to 10 hours for me, this was in power saver mode.I like the switching between the two graphics chips, works like a charm, for most applications there is noneed for the fast one.I have got about 5 hours of game playing in on battery with the fast graphics on.My only issue with the machine is that I do not care for the "mouse" buttons, but a USB mousesolved that problem when lots of clicking is needed.In short I like this machine a lot and highly recommend it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30729890</id>
	<title>Re:Turbo Button vs Dynamic Clocking</title>
	<author>fuzzyfuzzyfungus</author>
	<datestamp>1263208740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>One of the GPUs is, almost definitely, whatever GPU was integrated into the chipset. It'll be weak as hell; but use minimal power and be virtually free in terms of board space and bill of materials.<br> <br>

The second GPU will be whatever they picked for when actual performance is needed. It will add cost, space, and heat; but there is really no alternative if you want to have actual power available. Odds are, it uses more power in its lowest stable voltage/clock state than the integrated GPU does at full power.</htmltext>
<tokenext>One of the GPUs is , almost definitely , whatever GPU was integrated into the chipset .
It 'll be weak as hell ; but use minimal power and be virtually free in terms of board space and bill of materials .
The second GPU will be whatever they picked for when actual performance is needed .
It will add cost , space , and heat ; but there is really no alternative if you want to have actual power available .
Odds are , it uses more power in its lowest stable voltage/clock state than the integrated GPU does at full power .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One of the GPUs is, almost definitely, whatever GPU was integrated into the chipset.
It'll be weak as hell; but use minimal power and be virtually free in terms of board space and bill of materials.
The second GPU will be whatever they picked for when actual performance is needed.
It will add cost, space, and heat; but there is really no alternative if you want to have actual power available.
Odds are, it uses more power in its lowest stable voltage/clock state than the integrated GPU does at full power.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30731468</id>
	<title>Re:Bloatware?</title>
	<author>jasonwc</author>
	<datestamp>1263216900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My Asus U80A laptop uses the "Asus Power4gear  Hybrid" windows software to maximize battery life. It allows you to cap the maximum CPU frequency, set Wifi and other devices to a low-power mode, and disable Windows features such as Aero. Battery life can be increased 33-50\% from Windows "Battery" modes simply by using the software's default setting which uses a low-power mode for Wifi and caps CPU frequency at 60\% of the maximum.</p><p>Thus, I imagine this will not work on Linux. However, this isn't unusual. I've generally gotten worse battery life in Ubuntu than Windows, especially when using the manufacturer's proprietary software to maximize battery life, which is only available for Windows.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My Asus U80A laptop uses the " Asus Power4gear Hybrid " windows software to maximize battery life .
It allows you to cap the maximum CPU frequency , set Wifi and other devices to a low-power mode , and disable Windows features such as Aero .
Battery life can be increased 33-50 \ % from Windows " Battery " modes simply by using the software 's default setting which uses a low-power mode for Wifi and caps CPU frequency at 60 \ % of the maximum.Thus , I imagine this will not work on Linux .
However , this is n't unusual .
I 've generally gotten worse battery life in Ubuntu than Windows , especially when using the manufacturer 's proprietary software to maximize battery life , which is only available for Windows .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My Asus U80A laptop uses the "Asus Power4gear  Hybrid" windows software to maximize battery life.
It allows you to cap the maximum CPU frequency, set Wifi and other devices to a low-power mode, and disable Windows features such as Aero.
Battery life can be increased 33-50\% from Windows "Battery" modes simply by using the software's default setting which uses a low-power mode for Wifi and caps CPU frequency at 60\% of the maximum.Thus, I imagine this will not work on Linux.
However, this isn't unusual.
I've generally gotten worse battery life in Ubuntu than Windows, especially when using the manufacturer's proprietary software to maximize battery life, which is only available for Windows.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30729680</id>
	<title>Re:Lies. Slander.</title>
	<author>Firehed</author>
	<datestamp>1263208020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wish they'd start speccing battery life numbers based off h264 playback rather than DVDs. Or more to the point, include a dedicated lower-power decoder chip.  I haven't touched DVDs in quite a long time, but between ripped movies and web streaming, there's a ton of h264 playback going on. I haven't done benchmarks on battery drain, but the extra CPU juice required (compared to mpeg2/4) seems to more than offset the savings of not having a dvd drive spinning the whole time. The high WiFi activity during most video playback doesn't help either.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wish they 'd start speccing battery life numbers based off h264 playback rather than DVDs .
Or more to the point , include a dedicated lower-power decoder chip .
I have n't touched DVDs in quite a long time , but between ripped movies and web streaming , there 's a ton of h264 playback going on .
I have n't done benchmarks on battery drain , but the extra CPU juice required ( compared to mpeg2/4 ) seems to more than offset the savings of not having a dvd drive spinning the whole time .
The high WiFi activity during most video playback does n't help either .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wish they'd start speccing battery life numbers based off h264 playback rather than DVDs.
Or more to the point, include a dedicated lower-power decoder chip.
I haven't touched DVDs in quite a long time, but between ripped movies and web streaming, there's a ton of h264 playback going on.
I haven't done benchmarks on battery drain, but the extra CPU juice required (compared to mpeg2/4) seems to more than offset the savings of not having a dvd drive spinning the whole time.
The high WiFi activity during most video playback doesn't help either.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30734280</id>
	<title>310M is not high end</title>
	<author>alex\_royle</author>
	<datestamp>1263329400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>A nvidia 310M is not high end. It's not even mid range.</htmltext>
<tokenext>A nvidia 310M is not high end .
It 's not even mid range .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A nvidia 310M is not high end.
It's not even mid range.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30729400</id>
	<title>And because 8 hours really means 2 hours,</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1263206880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>12 hours then means 3 hours. Yay.</p><p>My laptop now is my mobile phone. It&rsquo;s enough to watch movies with headphones in the bed, on the toilet or outside. And if I want more, I always have my full home cinema, server and workstation at home.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>12 hours then means 3 hours .
Yay.My laptop now is my mobile phone .
It    s enough to watch movies with headphones in the bed , on the toilet or outside .
And if I want more , I always have my full home cinema , server and workstation at home .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>12 hours then means 3 hours.
Yay.My laptop now is my mobile phone.
It’s enough to watch movies with headphones in the bed, on the toilet or outside.
And if I want more, I always have my full home cinema, server and workstation at home.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30730658</id>
	<title>This is sad because...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263212400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>..when i got my first laptop in grade 8/9 (freshman in university now) i thought that all laptops had that long of a battery life:\</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>..when i got my first laptop in grade 8/9 ( freshman in university now ) i thought that all laptops had that long of a battery life : \</tokentext>
<sentencetext>..when i got my first laptop in grade 8/9 (freshman in university now) i thought that all laptops had that long of a battery life:\</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30728444</id>
	<title>Just over $1,000</title>
	<author>Chris Pimlott</author>
	<datestamp>1263203520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I know netbooks have really pushed the low-end prices downwards, but is slight over a grand really considered "high-end" these days?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I know netbooks have really pushed the low-end prices downwards , but is slight over a grand really considered " high-end " these days ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know netbooks have really pushed the low-end prices downwards, but is slight over a grand really considered "high-end" these days?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30729512</id>
	<title>Ok but...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263207300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ok but does it run Linux?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ok but does it run Linux ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ok but does it run Linux?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30730670</id>
	<title>Re:And because 8 hours really means 2 hours,</title>
	<author>Shados</author>
	<datestamp>1263212520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>To be fair, some companies actually give real numbers on this. An example is the (admitedly extremely overpriced) Nokia Booklet 3G. They claim 12 hour battery life...and ok, if I'm connected to a high speed wifi watching HD movies on youtube non-stop, or playing "netbook-level" games on Steam, i get 9-10, but aside that (typical netbook usage, like listening to music, word processing, checking emails, browsing, etc), 12 is actually an accurate number.</p><p>Maybe Asus is honest on this one.  Maybe.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>To be fair , some companies actually give real numbers on this .
An example is the ( admitedly extremely overpriced ) Nokia Booklet 3G .
They claim 12 hour battery life...and ok , if I 'm connected to a high speed wifi watching HD movies on youtube non-stop , or playing " netbook-level " games on Steam , i get 9-10 , but aside that ( typical netbook usage , like listening to music , word processing , checking emails , browsing , etc ) , 12 is actually an accurate number.Maybe Asus is honest on this one .
Maybe .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To be fair, some companies actually give real numbers on this.
An example is the (admitedly extremely overpriced) Nokia Booklet 3G.
They claim 12 hour battery life...and ok, if I'm connected to a high speed wifi watching HD movies on youtube non-stop, or playing "netbook-level" games on Steam, i get 9-10, but aside that (typical netbook usage, like listening to music, word processing, checking emails, browsing, etc), 12 is actually an accurate number.Maybe Asus is honest on this one.
Maybe.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30729582</id>
	<title>Re:User-transparent</title>
	<author>Arimus</author>
	<datestamp>1263207600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Its not meant for us<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;) Think of the typical person who knows NOTHING about computers or the differences between the GeForce and Intel graphics... they're not going to make the best choice as to which card should be active. On the other hand as the computer knows what its trying to do it can.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Its not meant for us ; ) Think of the typical person who knows NOTHING about computers or the differences between the GeForce and Intel graphics... they 're not going to make the best choice as to which card should be active .
On the other hand as the computer knows what its trying to do it can .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Its not meant for us ;) Think of the typical person who knows NOTHING about computers or the differences between the GeForce and Intel graphics... they're not going to make the best choice as to which card should be active.
On the other hand as the computer knows what its trying to do it can.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30729804</id>
	<title>Re:Vendor promises</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263208380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>This reminds me of my iPhone and Apple bullshit that the battery has a standby of 300 hours (12.5 days)... 300 hours my ass... more like 30.</p></div></blockquote><p>So I guess we should expect to see a "news" article on how bad the Google Nexus' battery standby time is in about 30 minutes.</p><p>I actually read one of these Appleturfed articles today about how several "independent technology consultants" say that buying an unlocked phone is a terrible idea because you lose the "protection" that a tied-in service contract offers.</p><p>I'm not kidding.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This reminds me of my iPhone and Apple bullshit that the battery has a standby of 300 hours ( 12.5 days ) ... 300 hours my ass... more like 30.So I guess we should expect to see a " news " article on how bad the Google Nexus ' battery standby time is in about 30 minutes.I actually read one of these Appleturfed articles today about how several " independent technology consultants " say that buying an unlocked phone is a terrible idea because you lose the " protection " that a tied-in service contract offers.I 'm not kidding .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This reminds me of my iPhone and Apple bullshit that the battery has a standby of 300 hours (12.5 days)... 300 hours my ass... more like 30.So I guess we should expect to see a "news" article on how bad the Google Nexus' battery standby time is in about 30 minutes.I actually read one of these Appleturfed articles today about how several "independent technology consultants" say that buying an unlocked phone is a terrible idea because you lose the "protection" that a tied-in service contract offers.I'm not kidding.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30728496</id>
	<title>User-transparent</title>
	<author>TheMeuge</author>
	<datestamp>1263203700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>ASUS's solution is different because it's <b>user-transparent</b>; even a novice user will get the fullest possible benefit because the <b>laptop itself is deciding</b> when to switch. The same principle applies to the dynamic CPU clocking.</p></div><p>So what they mean is that the laptop will be deciding when it should be fast or slow, with no input from the user? How's this different than the gazillion power management settings we have now (except switching between GPUs of course)?</p><p>I am also not sure I like the sentiment of "user-independent" is somehow more beneficial to the user. It sounds too much like the drivel from the RIAA/MPAA: "we will enhance customer value by increasing the price and decreasing what they can do with it."</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>ASUS 's solution is different because it 's user-transparent ; even a novice user will get the fullest possible benefit because the laptop itself is deciding when to switch .
The same principle applies to the dynamic CPU clocking.So what they mean is that the laptop will be deciding when it should be fast or slow , with no input from the user ?
How 's this different than the gazillion power management settings we have now ( except switching between GPUs of course ) ? I am also not sure I like the sentiment of " user-independent " is somehow more beneficial to the user .
It sounds too much like the drivel from the RIAA/MPAA : " we will enhance customer value by increasing the price and decreasing what they can do with it .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>ASUS's solution is different because it's user-transparent; even a novice user will get the fullest possible benefit because the laptop itself is deciding when to switch.
The same principle applies to the dynamic CPU clocking.So what they mean is that the laptop will be deciding when it should be fast or slow, with no input from the user?
How's this different than the gazillion power management settings we have now (except switching between GPUs of course)?I am also not sure I like the sentiment of "user-independent" is somehow more beneficial to the user.
It sounds too much like the drivel from the RIAA/MPAA: "we will enhance customer value by increasing the price and decreasing what they can do with it.
"
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30728640</id>
	<title>Re:Just over $1,000</title>
	<author>cptnapalm</author>
	<datestamp>1263204180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I bought a Lenovo laptop a few weeks ago with an i7, Nvidia 240M, 4 GB of RAM and a 500 GB hard drive for $999.  If that isn't high end, I'm not sure what would qualify.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I bought a Lenovo laptop a few weeks ago with an i7 , Nvidia 240M , 4 GB of RAM and a 500 GB hard drive for $ 999 .
If that is n't high end , I 'm not sure what would qualify .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bought a Lenovo laptop a few weeks ago with an i7, Nvidia 240M, 4 GB of RAM and a 500 GB hard drive for $999.
If that isn't high end, I'm not sure what would qualify.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30733646</id>
	<title>Re:How good/bad is their acpi implementation?</title>
	<author>derGoldstein</author>
	<datestamp>1263234060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>This may be anecdotal, but Asus have delivered on most of their battery-life claims consistently so far. Most reviews of their laptops, especially the netbooks, have shown that they don't exaggerate their operation time to any significant extent. Personally I have an Eee-1005HA and I don't think I can think of a reasonable usage scenario in which it would last for less than 7 hours. If I keep the CPU at forced maximum, and have it do video playback for the entire time, it still gets over 6 hours. If I keep it at forced powersave mode and only do Flash-free browsing, I've seen close to 8 hours (which is the claim).<br> <br>
If they deliver even 8 to 10 hours of reasonable usage, it would be a very big leap for a full-power laptop.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This may be anecdotal , but Asus have delivered on most of their battery-life claims consistently so far .
Most reviews of their laptops , especially the netbooks , have shown that they do n't exaggerate their operation time to any significant extent .
Personally I have an Eee-1005HA and I do n't think I can think of a reasonable usage scenario in which it would last for less than 7 hours .
If I keep the CPU at forced maximum , and have it do video playback for the entire time , it still gets over 6 hours .
If I keep it at forced powersave mode and only do Flash-free browsing , I 've seen close to 8 hours ( which is the claim ) .
If they deliver even 8 to 10 hours of reasonable usage , it would be a very big leap for a full-power laptop .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This may be anecdotal, but Asus have delivered on most of their battery-life claims consistently so far.
Most reviews of their laptops, especially the netbooks, have shown that they don't exaggerate their operation time to any significant extent.
Personally I have an Eee-1005HA and I don't think I can think of a reasonable usage scenario in which it would last for less than 7 hours.
If I keep the CPU at forced maximum, and have it do video playback for the entire time, it still gets over 6 hours.
If I keep it at forced powersave mode and only do Flash-free browsing, I've seen close to 8 hours (which is the claim).
If they deliver even 8 to 10 hours of reasonable usage, it would be a very big leap for a full-power laptop.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30728476</id>
	<title>Asus</title>
	<author>deathtopaulw</author>
	<datestamp>1263203640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>God I love asus, glad to see them actively pushing the envelope on the Windows side. Hopefully they'll kick apple into higher gear with this kind of stuff too. Their products themselves look and feel slick too, not a cheap part to be found.</htmltext>
<tokenext>God I love asus , glad to see them actively pushing the envelope on the Windows side .
Hopefully they 'll kick apple into higher gear with this kind of stuff too .
Their products themselves look and feel slick too , not a cheap part to be found .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>God I love asus, glad to see them actively pushing the envelope on the Windows side.
Hopefully they'll kick apple into higher gear with this kind of stuff too.
Their products themselves look and feel slick too, not a cheap part to be found.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30728910</id>
	<title>Bloatware?</title>
	<author>meustrus</author>
	<datestamp>1263205140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Looks to me like the software to accomplish this is one of those programs the manufacturer bundles on your computer, not an architectural change. If I have to tolerate a 6 month trial of MS Office, Norton Antivirus, several dozen casual games distributed as adware, and whatever other "productivity" software they decide I want, then no thanks. Bundled software should be possible to separate from each other.</p><p>Another important question: will it run Linux?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Looks to me like the software to accomplish this is one of those programs the manufacturer bundles on your computer , not an architectural change .
If I have to tolerate a 6 month trial of MS Office , Norton Antivirus , several dozen casual games distributed as adware , and whatever other " productivity " software they decide I want , then no thanks .
Bundled software should be possible to separate from each other.Another important question : will it run Linux ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Looks to me like the software to accomplish this is one of those programs the manufacturer bundles on your computer, not an architectural change.
If I have to tolerate a 6 month trial of MS Office, Norton Antivirus, several dozen casual games distributed as adware, and whatever other "productivity" software they decide I want, then no thanks.
Bundled software should be possible to separate from each other.Another important question: will it run Linux?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30730150</id>
	<title>bleh</title>
	<author>roc97007</author>
	<datestamp>1263209880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
I want 12 hour battery life in a low end laptop.  Free phones will last 8 days on a single charge.  I want my laptop to run for days, and I don't care if it doesn't have enough grunt to play Halo 3.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I want 12 hour battery life in a low end laptop .
Free phones will last 8 days on a single charge .
I want my laptop to run for days , and I do n't care if it does n't have enough grunt to play Halo 3 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
I want 12 hour battery life in a low end laptop.
Free phones will last 8 days on a single charge.
I want my laptop to run for days, and I don't care if it doesn't have enough grunt to play Halo 3.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30728938</id>
	<title>$1000?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263205260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>People still buy $1000 laptops?  How quaint.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>People still buy $ 1000 laptops ?
How quaint .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People still buy $1000 laptops?
How quaint.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30748032</id>
	<title>Re:SilentPCReview has a review, got over 9hrs</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263416160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>There's a review at:</p><p> <a href="http://www.silentpcreview.com/asus-ul80vt" title="silentpcreview.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.silentpcreview.com/asus-ul80vt</a> [silentpcreview.com] </p><p>They got a runtime of 9hrs 11min while web browsing, but it was running faster than expected so they thought that 10 hrs wasn't out of the realm of possibility.</p></div><p>who on earth would browse the web for 9 hours?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's a review at : http : //www.silentpcreview.com/asus-ul80vt [ silentpcreview.com ] They got a runtime of 9hrs 11min while web browsing , but it was running faster than expected so they thought that 10 hrs was n't out of the realm of possibility.who on earth would browse the web for 9 hours ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's a review at: http://www.silentpcreview.com/asus-ul80vt [silentpcreview.com] They got a runtime of 9hrs 11min while web browsing, but it was running faster than expected so they thought that 10 hrs wasn't out of the realm of possibility.who on earth would browse the web for 9 hours?
	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30728636</id>
	<title>Useless widgets</title>
	<author>Chryana</author>
	<datestamp>1263204180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>ASUS includes a desktop widget to track CPU clock speed. While using the UL80JT, I could see it moving up and down with what I did; up with program openings and CPU-intensive processes, and way down at idle.</p></div><p>So basically it's like the task manager?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>ASUS includes a desktop widget to track CPU clock speed .
While using the UL80JT , I could see it moving up and down with what I did ; up with program openings and CPU-intensive processes , and way down at idle.So basically it 's like the task manager ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>ASUS includes a desktop widget to track CPU clock speed.
While using the UL80JT, I could see it moving up and down with what I did; up with program openings and CPU-intensive processes, and way down at idle.So basically it's like the task manager?
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30733314</id>
	<title>Zzz</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263230760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My Panasonic Let's Note T6 was rated at 11 hours three years ago. With regular HDD. This was before the entire world started using stone age technology in "netbooks". Zzzz.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My Panasonic Let 's Note T6 was rated at 11 hours three years ago .
With regular HDD .
This was before the entire world started using stone age technology in " netbooks " .
Zzzz .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My Panasonic Let's Note T6 was rated at 11 hours three years ago.
With regular HDD.
This was before the entire world started using stone age technology in "netbooks".
Zzzz.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30759096</id>
	<title>It's true!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263390000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The UL series (using CULV) has already been out for a while. Believe it or not, they actually do get 9-12 hours with typical usage -- just go read the Amazon reviews.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The UL series ( using CULV ) has already been out for a while .
Believe it or not , they actually do get 9-12 hours with typical usage -- just go read the Amazon reviews .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The UL series (using CULV) has already been out for a while.
Believe it or not, they actually do get 9-12 hours with typical usage -- just go read the Amazon reviews.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30729664</id>
	<title>Re:Turbo Button</title>
	<author>Ant P.</author>
	<datestamp>1263207900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Asus' eee laptops <b>do</b>:</p><blockquote><div><p> <tt>echo 0 &gt;<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/sys/devices/platform/eeepc/cpufv</tt></p></div> </blockquote><p>0 is overclock, 1 is normal, 2 is powersave.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Asus ' eee laptops do : echo 0 &gt; /sys/devices/platform/eeepc/cpufv 0 is overclock , 1 is normal , 2 is powersave .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Asus' eee laptops do: echo 0 &gt; /sys/devices/platform/eeepc/cpufv 0 is overclock, 1 is normal, 2 is powersave.
	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30732614</id>
	<title>Lenovo t400</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263224940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The lenovo T400 I have had for over a year now can switch between a low power Intel chip and GPU on command.  With the 9 cell battery and ultra bay li-poly I saw actual usage well over 12 hrs of continous use before needing to recharge.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The lenovo T400 I have had for over a year now can switch between a low power Intel chip and GPU on command .
With the 9 cell battery and ultra bay li-poly I saw actual usage well over 12 hrs of continous use before needing to recharge .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The lenovo T400 I have had for over a year now can switch between a low power Intel chip and GPU on command.
With the 9 cell battery and ultra bay li-poly I saw actual usage well over 12 hrs of continous use before needing to recharge.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30731488</id>
	<title>Re:Promises, promises</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263217140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I will believe Duke Nuke'em Forever before the others</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I will believe Duke Nuke'em Forever before the others</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I will believe Duke Nuke'em Forever before the others</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30728582</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30731942</id>
	<title>Re:How good/bad is their acpi implementation?</title>
	<author>BikeHelmet</author>
	<datestamp>1263219960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wish they would list battery life under "Heavy Use".</p><p>I remember reading a Netbook review where it pointed out how bogus the 10 hour claims are. Can't find the exact one, but <a href="http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.aspx?i=3622&amp;p=5" title="anandtech.com">this one</a> [anandtech.com] is similar.</p><p>10 hours? No. 6 hours if you're doing something. Listening to an MP3 while you work in Office and browse the web? That's CPU, speakers, Wifi, possibly Flash(GPU/CPU), and the HDD. 6 hours is expected under fairly normal use for anyone that visits slashdot.</p><p>And yet devices like the <a href="http://www.open-pandora.org/" title="open-pandora.org">Pandora handheld</a> [open-pandora.org] make real heavy use claims. Why must it be a small insignificant company to avoid being lied to?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wish they would list battery life under " Heavy Use " .I remember reading a Netbook review where it pointed out how bogus the 10 hour claims are .
Ca n't find the exact one , but this one [ anandtech.com ] is similar.10 hours ?
No. 6 hours if you 're doing something .
Listening to an MP3 while you work in Office and browse the web ?
That 's CPU , speakers , Wifi , possibly Flash ( GPU/CPU ) , and the HDD .
6 hours is expected under fairly normal use for anyone that visits slashdot.And yet devices like the Pandora handheld [ open-pandora.org ] make real heavy use claims .
Why must it be a small insignificant company to avoid being lied to ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wish they would list battery life under "Heavy Use".I remember reading a Netbook review where it pointed out how bogus the 10 hour claims are.
Can't find the exact one, but this one [anandtech.com] is similar.10 hours?
No. 6 hours if you're doing something.
Listening to an MP3 while you work in Office and browse the web?
That's CPU, speakers, Wifi, possibly Flash(GPU/CPU), and the HDD.
6 hours is expected under fairly normal use for anyone that visits slashdot.And yet devices like the Pandora handheld [open-pandora.org] make real heavy use claims.
Why must it be a small insignificant company to avoid being lied to?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30733760</id>
	<title>Does it run on Linux?</title>
	<author>vajorie</author>
	<datestamp>1263235560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>No, I'm serious! Does it? As advertised? Unless so, to me, the article starts up with an outright lie from Asus:<blockquote><div><p>even a novice user will get the fullest possible benefit because the laptop itself is deciding when to switch.</p></div></blockquote></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>No , I 'm serious !
Does it ?
As advertised ?
Unless so , to me , the article starts up with an outright lie from Asus : even a novice user will get the fullest possible benefit because the laptop itself is deciding when to switch .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, I'm serious!
Does it?
As advertised?
Unless so, to me, the article starts up with an outright lie from Asus:even a novice user will get the fullest possible benefit because the laptop itself is deciding when to switch.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30735302</id>
	<title>Re:Looks nice.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263299580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Apple already came up with this.  (I still won't cough up the $$$ for a MacBook, but...)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apple already came up with this .
( I still wo n't cough up the $ $ $ for a MacBook , but... )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apple already came up with this.
(I still won't cough up the $$$ for a MacBook, but...)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30732164</id>
	<title>Re:Vendor promises</title>
	<author>mgblst</author>
	<datestamp>1263221520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I find it a bit hard to believe that you are using a laptop with notepad for 11 hours? Is this some new form of torture.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I find it a bit hard to believe that you are using a laptop with notepad for 11 hours ?
Is this some new form of torture .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I find it a bit hard to believe that you are using a laptop with notepad for 11 hours?
Is this some new form of torture.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30728788</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30733434</id>
	<title>Re:Turbo Button</title>
	<author>derGoldstein</author>
	<datestamp>1263232080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>As Ant P. points out below, Asus Eee PCs have a powersave mode which is 2. That means that in binary it's mode "11". Ta-da!
<br>
(oh, the pain)</htmltext>
<tokenext>As Ant P. points out below , Asus Eee PCs have a powersave mode which is 2 .
That means that in binary it 's mode " 11 " .
Ta-da ! ( oh , the pain )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As Ant P. points out below, Asus Eee PCs have a powersave mode which is 2.
That means that in binary it's mode "11".
Ta-da!

(oh, the pain)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30729332</id>
	<title>Seems familiar...</title>
	<author>Erikderzweite</author>
	<datestamp>1263206640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So, they have basically redefined ondemand governor and build Windows variant for CPU Frequency Applet I used to use in GNOME?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So , they have basically redefined ondemand governor and build Windows variant for CPU Frequency Applet I used to use in GNOME ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, they have basically redefined ondemand governor and build Windows variant for CPU Frequency Applet I used to use in GNOME?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30734792</id>
	<title>Re:Vendor promises</title>
	<author>smallfries</author>
	<datestamp>1263293220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>While your statement is technically true it is also practically devoid of information. Any particular advance will only get "so much" improvement, but the more relevant point is how much that "so much" is. Playing around with power management has increased battery times by about a factor of two. Reduction in power consumption from better screens, lower power processors and switching to flash drives might be good for another power of two.</p><p>Personally I'd love a laptop with an ARM processor, an eInk display and a real 20hr+ battery life, but then again I'm not the mainstream market. So we'll have to wait until battery technology gives us a 20hr+ battery life from a backlit screen and a power hungry processor.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>While your statement is technically true it is also practically devoid of information .
Any particular advance will only get " so much " improvement , but the more relevant point is how much that " so much " is .
Playing around with power management has increased battery times by about a factor of two .
Reduction in power consumption from better screens , lower power processors and switching to flash drives might be good for another power of two.Personally I 'd love a laptop with an ARM processor , an eInk display and a real 20hr + battery life , but then again I 'm not the mainstream market .
So we 'll have to wait until battery technology gives us a 20hr + battery life from a backlit screen and a power hungry processor .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While your statement is technically true it is also practically devoid of information.
Any particular advance will only get "so much" improvement, but the more relevant point is how much that "so much" is.
Playing around with power management has increased battery times by about a factor of two.
Reduction in power consumption from better screens, lower power processors and switching to flash drives might be good for another power of two.Personally I'd love a laptop with an ARM processor, an eInk display and a real 20hr+ battery life, but then again I'm not the mainstream market.
So we'll have to wait until battery technology gives us a 20hr+ battery life from a backlit screen and a power hungry processor.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30734420</id>
	<title>Re:How long on a Low end laptop</title>
	<author>PingPongBoy</author>
	<datestamp>1263288540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><em> but what I need in a laptop is long battery life</em></p><p>Maybe it's about time laptops were made to run on AA or AAA batteries so you can always buy or carry extra batteries if you have no way to charge.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>but what I need in a laptop is long battery lifeMaybe it 's about time laptops were made to run on AA or AAA batteries so you can always buy or carry extra batteries if you have no way to charge .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> but what I need in a laptop is long battery lifeMaybe it's about time laptops were made to run on AA or AAA batteries so you can always buy or carry extra batteries if you have no way to charge.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30729838</id>
	<title>Re:Vendor promises</title>
	<author>Ephemeriis</author>
	<datestamp>1263208560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Keep in mind that the quoted number is always for minimal usage.</p></div><p>This always annoys me.</p><p>I guess it's good to know how long the battery will last if I do basically nothing...  But how long will it last if I'm actually using the wireless to surf the web?  Or if I'm playing a game?  Or watching a video?</p><p>Obviously it'll be less than what's advertised on the box...  But how much less?</p><p>Of course I can figure this out for myself fairly easily just by trying it out and timing how long the battery lasts.  But that doesn't help me much when I'm trying to make a purchasing decision.</p><p>It'd be much more useful if they printed the <b>minimum</b> battery life on the box.  Then I know, no matter what, I'll get at <b>least</b> that much time out of the battery...  And if I'm not actually working it that hard, I'll get more.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Keep in mind that the quoted number is always for minimal usage.This always annoys me.I guess it 's good to know how long the battery will last if I do basically nothing... But how long will it last if I 'm actually using the wireless to surf the web ?
Or if I 'm playing a game ?
Or watching a video ? Obviously it 'll be less than what 's advertised on the box... But how much less ? Of course I can figure this out for myself fairly easily just by trying it out and timing how long the battery lasts .
But that does n't help me much when I 'm trying to make a purchasing decision.It 'd be much more useful if they printed the minimum battery life on the box .
Then I know , no matter what , I 'll get at least that much time out of the battery... And if I 'm not actually working it that hard , I 'll get more .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Keep in mind that the quoted number is always for minimal usage.This always annoys me.I guess it's good to know how long the battery will last if I do basically nothing...  But how long will it last if I'm actually using the wireless to surf the web?
Or if I'm playing a game?
Or watching a video?Obviously it'll be less than what's advertised on the box...  But how much less?Of course I can figure this out for myself fairly easily just by trying it out and timing how long the battery lasts.
But that doesn't help me much when I'm trying to make a purchasing decision.It'd be much more useful if they printed the minimum battery life on the box.
Then I know, no matter what, I'll get at least that much time out of the battery...  And if I'm not actually working it that hard, I'll get more.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30734814</id>
	<title>Re:How long on a Low end laptop</title>
	<author>smallfries</author>
	<datestamp>1263293700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.batterygeek.net/Portable-Power-Stations-s/38.htm" title="batterygeek.net">Salvation</a> [batterygeek.net] is at hand. Just buy an external battery. Skim down that page until you get to the bigger models - 200Wh battery + the internal battery on a standard laptop should give you about 5x the battery life. Of course you have to lug around another box, which is why I never bought one. And I can't begin to imagine the conversation with airport security.....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Salvation [ batterygeek.net ] is at hand .
Just buy an external battery .
Skim down that page until you get to the bigger models - 200Wh battery + the internal battery on a standard laptop should give you about 5x the battery life .
Of course you have to lug around another box , which is why I never bought one .
And I ca n't begin to imagine the conversation with airport security.... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Salvation [batterygeek.net] is at hand.
Just buy an external battery.
Skim down that page until you get to the bigger models - 200Wh battery + the internal battery on a standard laptop should give you about 5x the battery life.
Of course you have to lug around another box, which is why I never bought one.
And I can't begin to imagine the conversation with airport security.....</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30733124</id>
	<title>pffft, 12 hours...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263229200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dell claimed theirs would last for 19 hours.  Didn't believe them either.  Testing is rarely done in real world usage scenarios...</p><p>http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.cfm?NewsID=102941</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dell claimed theirs would last for 19 hours .
Did n't believe them either .
Testing is rarely done in real world usage scenarios...http : //www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.cfm ? NewsID = 102941</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dell claimed theirs would last for 19 hours.
Didn't believe them either.
Testing is rarely done in real world usage scenarios...http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.cfm?NewsID=102941</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30729522</id>
	<title>Re:Turbo Button</title>
	<author>Jeng</author>
	<datestamp>1263207300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How about a Red Button of Death.</p><p>If you hit the red button on this video card while its on it will corrupt the video cards bios.  Luckily its got two.</p><p><a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127306" title="newegg.com">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127306</a> [newegg.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How about a Red Button of Death.If you hit the red button on this video card while its on it will corrupt the video cards bios .
Luckily its got two.http : //www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx ? Item = N82E16814127306 [ newegg.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about a Red Button of Death.If you hit the red button on this video card while its on it will corrupt the video cards bios.
Luckily its got two.http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127306 [newegg.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30728342</id>
	<title>Looks nice.</title>
	<author>Hazelfield</author>
	<datestamp>1263203220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why hasn't anyone come up with this before? Or if they have, where are the others?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why has n't anyone come up with this before ?
Or if they have , where are the others ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why hasn't anyone come up with this before?
Or if they have, where are the others?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30729686</id>
	<title>The article is wrong.</title>
	<author>brennz</author>
	<datestamp>1263208020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce\_m\_series.html" title="nvidia.com">A 310m is a mainstream graphics card for notebooks, not "high end".</a> [nvidia.com]
<br> <br>
Translation: this a mainstream laptop.</htmltext>
<tokenext>A 310m is a mainstream graphics card for notebooks , not " high end " .
[ nvidia.com ] Translation : this a mainstream laptop .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A 310m is a mainstream graphics card for notebooks, not "high end".
[nvidia.com]
 
Translation: this a mainstream laptop.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30730088</id>
	<title>12 hours battery-life</title>
	<author>DonCarlos</author>
	<datestamp>1263209640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Asus Promises 12 Hour Battery Life In New High-End Laptop"</p><p>did the forgot to mention "with display off"?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Asus Promises 12 Hour Battery Life In New High-End Laptop " did the forgot to mention " with display off " ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Asus Promises 12 Hour Battery Life In New High-End Laptop"did the forgot to mention "with display off"?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30729476</id>
	<title>Re:How long on a Low end laptop</title>
	<author>Kjella</author>
	<datestamp>1263207120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If they can do 12 hours on a laptop that, presumably, has a fast CPU &amp; stuff - how long could they go on a laptop with a modest CPU ?</p></div><p>In practice it depends on how big a battery is reasonable to carry around, it scales very linearly with that. The question is, does anyone regularly need a 30h laptop? Or is there those that need a day's charge (for the hours they use it, not necessarily wall time) and those who are really off the grid for weeks and need a different solution anyway? I would tend to think so, there's not many today who has a "base" without electricity. Maybe there's a weekend market, but if you're spending the entire weekend in front of it you might as well stay at home...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If they can do 12 hours on a laptop that , presumably , has a fast CPU &amp; stuff - how long could they go on a laptop with a modest CPU ? In practice it depends on how big a battery is reasonable to carry around , it scales very linearly with that .
The question is , does anyone regularly need a 30h laptop ?
Or is there those that need a day 's charge ( for the hours they use it , not necessarily wall time ) and those who are really off the grid for weeks and need a different solution anyway ?
I would tend to think so , there 's not many today who has a " base " without electricity .
Maybe there 's a weekend market , but if you 're spending the entire weekend in front of it you might as well stay at home.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If they can do 12 hours on a laptop that, presumably, has a fast CPU &amp; stuff - how long could they go on a laptop with a modest CPU ?In practice it depends on how big a battery is reasonable to carry around, it scales very linearly with that.
The question is, does anyone regularly need a 30h laptop?
Or is there those that need a day's charge (for the hours they use it, not necessarily wall time) and those who are really off the grid for weeks and need a different solution anyway?
I would tend to think so, there's not many today who has a "base" without electricity.
Maybe there's a weekend market, but if you're spending the entire weekend in front of it you might as well stay at home...
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30728570</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30734786</id>
	<title>Geforce 310 is NOT high-end</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263293220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's the cheapest video card from nvidia. It's not even a card from the new lineup, it's an geforce 210 rebranded.<br>There should be a law against such false advertising.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's the cheapest video card from nvidia .
It 's not even a card from the new lineup , it 's an geforce 210 rebranded.There should be a law against such false advertising .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's the cheapest video card from nvidia.
It's not even a card from the new lineup, it's an geforce 210 rebranded.There should be a law against such false advertising.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30728332</id>
	<title>Turbo Button</title>
	<author>Zordak</author>
	<datestamp>1263203160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>"Dynamic clocking" my foot!  I won't buy it unless it has a big, red "Turbo" button.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Dynamic clocking " my foot !
I wo n't buy it unless it has a big , red " Turbo " button .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Dynamic clocking" my foot!
I won't buy it unless it has a big, red "Turbo" button.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30728404</id>
	<title>Asus 'widgets' are shit</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263203460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And only "overclocker xtreme pc" kids, with little real computer knowledge, run them.  You know, slashdot readers.</p><p>(oh and the asus widget probably isnt a lunix 2.3 feature, why isn't anybody lamenting the lack of Free here?)</p><p>(i7s are overpriced, overrated, and sold via cooked benchmarks and fraudulent press)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And only " overclocker xtreme pc " kids , with little real computer knowledge , run them .
You know , slashdot readers .
( oh and the asus widget probably isnt a lunix 2.3 feature , why is n't anybody lamenting the lack of Free here ?
) ( i7s are overpriced , overrated , and sold via cooked benchmarks and fraudulent press )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And only "overclocker xtreme pc" kids, with little real computer knowledge, run them.
You know, slashdot readers.
(oh and the asus widget probably isnt a lunix 2.3 feature, why isn't anybody lamenting the lack of Free here?
)(i7s are overpriced, overrated, and sold via cooked benchmarks and fraudulent press)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30728412</id>
	<title>Vendor promises</title>
	<author>morgan\_greywolf</author>
	<datestamp>1263203460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Vendors promise all sorts of things.  That doesn't make them true.  I'll believe it when I see Tom's Hardware or someone equally competent test one of these things and they actually <em>get</em> 12 hours.</p><p>Until then, I'll file this one under "vendors promise the world".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Vendors promise all sorts of things .
That does n't make them true .
I 'll believe it when I see Tom 's Hardware or someone equally competent test one of these things and they actually get 12 hours.Until then , I 'll file this one under " vendors promise the world " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Vendors promise all sorts of things.
That doesn't make them true.
I'll believe it when I see Tom's Hardware or someone equally competent test one of these things and they actually get 12 hours.Until then, I'll file this one under "vendors promise the world".</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30729652</id>
	<title>Re:Vendor promises</title>
	<author>PopeRatzo</author>
	<datestamp>1263207900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Until then, I'll file this one under "vendors promise the world".</p></div></blockquote><p>I think they're only going to get so much battery time by playing games with "dynamic" processing power and other types of power management.</p><p>I don't think we're going to see really useful battery life times until there are some more advances in battery technology.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Until then , I 'll file this one under " vendors promise the world " .I think they 're only going to get so much battery time by playing games with " dynamic " processing power and other types of power management.I do n't think we 're going to see really useful battery life times until there are some more advances in battery technology .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Until then, I'll file this one under "vendors promise the world".I think they're only going to get so much battery time by playing games with "dynamic" processing power and other types of power management.I don't think we're going to see really useful battery life times until there are some more advances in battery technology.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30728412</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30729518</id>
	<title>Re:Asus battery life claims believable</title>
	<author>tool462</author>
	<datestamp>1263207300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Agreed.  I've posted this in another<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. thread, but on my Asus netbook, I get 6.5 hours consistently while using the thing at full tilt.  Brightness all the way up, wifi on, compiling code, etc, etc.  One review I read claimed 11 hours, but I haven't gotten that personally.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Agreed .
I 've posted this in another / .
thread , but on my Asus netbook , I get 6.5 hours consistently while using the thing at full tilt .
Brightness all the way up , wifi on , compiling code , etc , etc .
One review I read claimed 11 hours , but I have n't gotten that personally .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Agreed.
I've posted this in another /.
thread, but on my Asus netbook, I get 6.5 hours consistently while using the thing at full tilt.
Brightness all the way up, wifi on, compiling code, etc, etc.
One review I read claimed 11 hours, but I haven't gotten that personally.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30728580</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30733516</id>
	<title>Re:Vendor promises</title>
	<author>lobotomy</author>
	<datestamp>1263232860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"Protection" in the same way that the Mafia offers "protection". You do want it, don't you? Do you know what happened to the last guy who refused it?</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Protection " in the same way that the Mafia offers " protection " .
You do want it , do n't you ?
Do you know what happened to the last guy who refused it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Protection" in the same way that the Mafia offers "protection".
You do want it, don't you?
Do you know what happened to the last guy who refused it?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30729804</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30730052</id>
	<title>Re:Vendor promises</title>
	<author>harlows\_monkeys</author>
	<datestamp>1263209460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I get 11 hours just typing in notepad with the radio off</p></div><p>How did you discover that? Most people I know replace notepad with something else long before 11 hours.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I get 11 hours just typing in notepad with the radio offHow did you discover that ?
Most people I know replace notepad with something else long before 11 hours .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I get 11 hours just typing in notepad with the radio offHow did you discover that?
Most people I know replace notepad with something else long before 11 hours.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30728788</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30729448</id>
	<title>Turbo Button vs Dynamic Clocking</title>
	<author>Enderandrew</author>
	<datestamp>1263207060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I suddenly want to dig out my old 286.</p><p>In all seriousness, with dynamic clocking, why use 2 GPUs and switch between the two? Why not just under-clock and under-volt the primary GPU when you're not gaming?</p><p>Doesn't the second GPU just add cost?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I suddenly want to dig out my old 286.In all seriousness , with dynamic clocking , why use 2 GPUs and switch between the two ?
Why not just under-clock and under-volt the primary GPU when you 're not gaming ? Does n't the second GPU just add cost ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I suddenly want to dig out my old 286.In all seriousness, with dynamic clocking, why use 2 GPUs and switch between the two?
Why not just under-clock and under-volt the primary GPU when you're not gaming?Doesn't the second GPU just add cost?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30728332</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30729110</id>
	<title>Execs?</title>
	<author>snmpkid</author>
	<datestamp>1263205920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And the first thing every executive that gets it will do is change all the power saving features because the screen is not bright enough for them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And the first thing every executive that gets it will do is change all the power saving features because the screen is not bright enough for them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And the first thing every executive that gets it will do is change all the power saving features because the screen is not bright enough for them.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30729132</id>
	<title>Re:Vendor promises</title>
	<author>at\_slashdot</author>
	<datestamp>1263205980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This reminds me of my iPhone and Apple bullshit that the battery has a standby of 300 hours (12.5 days)... 300 hours my ass... more like 30.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This reminds me of my iPhone and Apple bullshit that the battery has a standby of 300 hours ( 12.5 days ) ... 300 hours my ass... more like 30 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This reminds me of my iPhone and Apple bullshit that the battery has a standby of 300 hours (12.5 days)... 300 hours my ass... more like 30.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30728412</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30734162</id>
	<title>Re:Vendor promises</title>
	<author>bemymonkey</author>
	<datestamp>1263327900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't forget that the "idle" scenario isn't only there to dupe customers - it actually happens every now and then.</p><p>When taking lecture notes on my tablet, it spends about half the time in idle with the screen shut off, because we usually get a PDF that we can just add our notes to, and there isn't always that much to add. The machine spends a lot of time idle, and actually gets close to its rated battery life (Thinkpad X41T).</p><p>It's not always a lie, it just depends on the usage scenario. Obviously manufacturers have chosen the one usage scenario that's the most beneficial to them... but at least they mostly chose the same one<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't forget that the " idle " scenario is n't only there to dupe customers - it actually happens every now and then.When taking lecture notes on my tablet , it spends about half the time in idle with the screen shut off , because we usually get a PDF that we can just add our notes to , and there is n't always that much to add .
The machine spends a lot of time idle , and actually gets close to its rated battery life ( Thinkpad X41T ) .It 's not always a lie , it just depends on the usage scenario .
Obviously manufacturers have chosen the one usage scenario that 's the most beneficial to them... but at least they mostly chose the same one ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't forget that the "idle" scenario isn't only there to dupe customers - it actually happens every now and then.When taking lecture notes on my tablet, it spends about half the time in idle with the screen shut off, because we usually get a PDF that we can just add our notes to, and there isn't always that much to add.
The machine spends a lot of time idle, and actually gets close to its rated battery life (Thinkpad X41T).It's not always a lie, it just depends on the usage scenario.
Obviously manufacturers have chosen the one usage scenario that's the most beneficial to them... but at least they mostly chose the same one ;)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30729838</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30733202</id>
	<title>Re:Vendor promises</title>
	<author>T-Bone-T</author>
	<datestamp>1263229800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It is easy to come up with the minimum number. Sometimes what people consider pushing a computer are very different. The other day, I was ripping 2 DVDs and encoding a disk image for my phone. That was definitely pushing my old computer. Even if you measure it with web browsing you run into issues. Do you let it run all the ads or do you block them like many will?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It is easy to come up with the minimum number .
Sometimes what people consider pushing a computer are very different .
The other day , I was ripping 2 DVDs and encoding a disk image for my phone .
That was definitely pushing my old computer .
Even if you measure it with web browsing you run into issues .
Do you let it run all the ads or do you block them like many will ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is easy to come up with the minimum number.
Sometimes what people consider pushing a computer are very different.
The other day, I was ripping 2 DVDs and encoding a disk image for my phone.
That was definitely pushing my old computer.
Even if you measure it with web browsing you run into issues.
Do you let it run all the ads or do you block them like many will?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30729838</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30728434</id>
	<title>CPU downclocking is not news</title>
	<author>marcansoft</author>
	<datestamp>1263203520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This thing is as old as my beat up Pentium III Inspiron 5000. Varying GPU clocks is also old.</p><p>What <b>is</b> interesting is seamless switching between GPUs. Everything else is just marketingese for "we do what everyone else does and we actually bothered to put some extra effort into power optimization".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This thing is as old as my beat up Pentium III Inspiron 5000 .
Varying GPU clocks is also old.What is interesting is seamless switching between GPUs .
Everything else is just marketingese for " we do what everyone else does and we actually bothered to put some extra effort into power optimization " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This thing is as old as my beat up Pentium III Inspiron 5000.
Varying GPU clocks is also old.What is interesting is seamless switching between GPUs.
Everything else is just marketingese for "we do what everyone else does and we actually bothered to put some extra effort into power optimization".</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30728410</id>
	<title>How good/bad is their acpi implementation?</title>
	<author>starbugs</author>
	<datestamp>1263203460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Promising 12 battery life is one thing.<br>Actually delivering acpi that is not crap is another.</p><p>I guess we'll wait and see.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Promising 12 battery life is one thing.Actually delivering acpi that is not crap is another.I guess we 'll wait and see .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Promising 12 battery life is one thing.Actually delivering acpi that is not crap is another.I guess we'll wait and see.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30729928</id>
	<title>Re:User-transparent</title>
	<author>Ephemeriis</author>
	<datestamp>1263208860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>So what they mean is that the laptop will be deciding when it should be fast or slow, with no input from the user? How's this different than the gazillion power management settings we have now (except switching between GPUs of course)?</p><p>I am also not sure I like the sentiment of "user-independent" is somehow more beneficial to the user. It sounds too much like the drivel from the RIAA/MPAA: "we will enhance customer value by increasing the price and decreasing what they can do with it."</p></div><p>If you know enough to dig into the power settings and get everything set up just right for your own usage patterns, then this laptop is not aimed at you.</p><p>This laptop is aimed at users who don't know enough to configure their own power options.  The whole point is that the laptop's hardware will make decent guesses as to the necessary power settings and switch as necessary - hopefully getting you performance when you need it, while still saving power when you don't.</p><p>Which can be accomplished right now, if you know what you're doing.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>So what they mean is that the laptop will be deciding when it should be fast or slow , with no input from the user ?
How 's this different than the gazillion power management settings we have now ( except switching between GPUs of course ) ? I am also not sure I like the sentiment of " user-independent " is somehow more beneficial to the user .
It sounds too much like the drivel from the RIAA/MPAA : " we will enhance customer value by increasing the price and decreasing what they can do with it .
" If you know enough to dig into the power settings and get everything set up just right for your own usage patterns , then this laptop is not aimed at you.This laptop is aimed at users who do n't know enough to configure their own power options .
The whole point is that the laptop 's hardware will make decent guesses as to the necessary power settings and switch as necessary - hopefully getting you performance when you need it , while still saving power when you do n't.Which can be accomplished right now , if you know what you 're doing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So what they mean is that the laptop will be deciding when it should be fast or slow, with no input from the user?
How's this different than the gazillion power management settings we have now (except switching between GPUs of course)?I am also not sure I like the sentiment of "user-independent" is somehow more beneficial to the user.
It sounds too much like the drivel from the RIAA/MPAA: "we will enhance customer value by increasing the price and decreasing what they can do with it.
"If you know enough to dig into the power settings and get everything set up just right for your own usage patterns, then this laptop is not aimed at you.This laptop is aimed at users who don't know enough to configure their own power options.
The whole point is that the laptop's hardware will make decent guesses as to the necessary power settings and switch as necessary - hopefully getting you performance when you need it, while still saving power when you don't.Which can be accomplished right now, if you know what you're doing.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30728496</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30733824</id>
	<title>Re:How long on a Low end laptop</title>
	<author>Mr0bvious</author>
	<datestamp>1263236160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Just give me a decent screen on my laptop (1920x1200 at least) but these types of screens only seem available on high end machines (read - poor battery life, hot to use, yada, yada)...

Grrr - no one seems to fill this gap!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just give me a decent screen on my laptop ( 1920x1200 at least ) but these types of screens only seem available on high end machines ( read - poor battery life , hot to use , yada , yada ) .. . Grrr - no one seems to fill this gap !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just give me a decent screen on my laptop (1920x1200 at least) but these types of screens only seem available on high end machines (read - poor battery life, hot to use, yada, yada)...

Grrr - no one seems to fill this gap!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30728582</id>
	<title>Promises, promises</title>
	<author>elrous0</author>
	<datestamp>1263204000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yeah, and we'll have a man on Mars in 2035, Obama will change Washington, and Duke Nuke'em Forever will be out any day now.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , and we 'll have a man on Mars in 2035 , Obama will change Washington , and Duke Nuke'em Forever will be out any day now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, and we'll have a man on Mars in 2035, Obama will change Washington, and Duke Nuke'em Forever will be out any day now.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30730000</id>
	<title>Re:Useless widgets</title>
	<author>cbhacking</author>
	<datestamp>1263209280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually, it sounds more like Resource Monitor (think an improved Task Manager plus a decent portion of Process Monitor from Sysinternals) as found in Vista and up. Among other things, ResMon will not only show you the second-by-second CPU usage, it will also show (as a second line on the graph) the portion of maximum clock rate the CPU is running at. Many (not all, but many) tools report CPU usage as a fraction of current clock rate, in which case you will see 20\% CPU usage reported when the CPU is running at 5\% of its maximum utilization, but underclocked to 25\% by the OS. It also leads to weird shifts in CPU usage - as usage increases the utilization display jumps to 100\%, then drops down dramatically as the CPU speed increases (this may repeat a few times if the CPU didn't jump to maximum speed in one step).</p><p>Today, even among gadgets which correctly current usage out of maximum clock rate, almost none will show current clock rate out of maximum rate. It sounds like this ASUS gadget works around that. Furthermore, the CPU scaling tends to lag somewhat behind change in demand for CPU resources (producing the spikes and drops described above). In an ideal implementation, the CPU would utilize 100\% of its current clock speed at all times, while instantaneously increasing the frequency as needed. The current implementations are definitely not ideal, which costs efficiency and therefore battery life.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , it sounds more like Resource Monitor ( think an improved Task Manager plus a decent portion of Process Monitor from Sysinternals ) as found in Vista and up .
Among other things , ResMon will not only show you the second-by-second CPU usage , it will also show ( as a second line on the graph ) the portion of maximum clock rate the CPU is running at .
Many ( not all , but many ) tools report CPU usage as a fraction of current clock rate , in which case you will see 20 \ % CPU usage reported when the CPU is running at 5 \ % of its maximum utilization , but underclocked to 25 \ % by the OS .
It also leads to weird shifts in CPU usage - as usage increases the utilization display jumps to 100 \ % , then drops down dramatically as the CPU speed increases ( this may repeat a few times if the CPU did n't jump to maximum speed in one step ) .Today , even among gadgets which correctly current usage out of maximum clock rate , almost none will show current clock rate out of maximum rate .
It sounds like this ASUS gadget works around that .
Furthermore , the CPU scaling tends to lag somewhat behind change in demand for CPU resources ( producing the spikes and drops described above ) .
In an ideal implementation , the CPU would utilize 100 \ % of its current clock speed at all times , while instantaneously increasing the frequency as needed .
The current implementations are definitely not ideal , which costs efficiency and therefore battery life .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, it sounds more like Resource Monitor (think an improved Task Manager plus a decent portion of Process Monitor from Sysinternals) as found in Vista and up.
Among other things, ResMon will not only show you the second-by-second CPU usage, it will also show (as a second line on the graph) the portion of maximum clock rate the CPU is running at.
Many (not all, but many) tools report CPU usage as a fraction of current clock rate, in which case you will see 20\% CPU usage reported when the CPU is running at 5\% of its maximum utilization, but underclocked to 25\% by the OS.
It also leads to weird shifts in CPU usage - as usage increases the utilization display jumps to 100\%, then drops down dramatically as the CPU speed increases (this may repeat a few times if the CPU didn't jump to maximum speed in one step).Today, even among gadgets which correctly current usage out of maximum clock rate, almost none will show current clock rate out of maximum rate.
It sounds like this ASUS gadget works around that.
Furthermore, the CPU scaling tends to lag somewhat behind change in demand for CPU resources (producing the spikes and drops described above).
In an ideal implementation, the CPU would utilize 100\% of its current clock speed at all times, while instantaneously increasing the frequency as needed.
The current implementations are definitely not ideal, which costs efficiency and therefore battery life.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30728668</id>
	<title>Re:Turbo Button</title>
	<author>morgan\_greywolf</author>
	<datestamp>1263204240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Who needs a big red "Turbo" button, when you have that <a href="http://static.arstechnica.com/ASUSCPUClockWidget.jpg" title="arstechnica.com" rel="nofollow">uber-cool big red "Turbo" speedometer-thingie</a> [arstechnica.com]?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Who needs a big red " Turbo " button , when you have that uber-cool big red " Turbo " speedometer-thingie [ arstechnica.com ] ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who needs a big red "Turbo" button, when you have that uber-cool big red "Turbo" speedometer-thingie [arstechnica.com]?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30733354</id>
	<title>Re:Vendor promises</title>
	<author>randallman</author>
	<datestamp>1263231180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Typing in notepad for 11 hours?  Why?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Typing in notepad for 11 hours ?
Why ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Typing in notepad for 11 hours?
Why?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30743958</id>
	<title>Re:How long on a Low end laptop</title>
	<author>Baloo Uriza</author>
	<datestamp>1263296760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What you want is a netbook.  An honest to God netbook, in the spirit of the first ones.
<p>
What bugs me is people who <i>say</i> they want a netbook, but then say that they want to be able to run Windows <i>and</i> Second Life on it.  Oh give me a fucking break!  You want a laptop!  Worse yet, manufacturers seem to be playing into this stupidity instead of saying, "Look, you're asking the impossible."  And then we get news stories saying how the netbook is doomed and how they're pricing itself out of it's own market segment...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What you want is a netbook .
An honest to God netbook , in the spirit of the first ones .
What bugs me is people who say they want a netbook , but then say that they want to be able to run Windows and Second Life on it .
Oh give me a fucking break !
You want a laptop !
Worse yet , manufacturers seem to be playing into this stupidity instead of saying , " Look , you 're asking the impossible .
" And then we get news stories saying how the netbook is doomed and how they 're pricing itself out of it 's own market segment.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What you want is a netbook.
An honest to God netbook, in the spirit of the first ones.
What bugs me is people who say they want a netbook, but then say that they want to be able to run Windows and Second Life on it.
Oh give me a fucking break!
You want a laptop!
Worse yet, manufacturers seem to be playing into this stupidity instead of saying, "Look, you're asking the impossible.
"  And then we get news stories saying how the netbook is doomed and how they're pricing itself out of it's own market segment...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30728326</id>
	<title>The Most I'd Pay For a High-End Laptop Is:</title>
	<author>M8e</author>
	<datestamp>1263203100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>$0<br>$100<br>$200<br>$300<br>$400<br>$500<br>Take a check?<br>Does it double as a dinner plate?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>$ 0 $ 100 $ 200 $ 300 $ 400 $ 500Take a check ? Does it double as a dinner plate ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>$0$100$200$300$400$500Take a check?Does it double as a dinner plate?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30729342</id>
	<title>SilentPCReview has a review, got over 9hrs</title>
	<author>Chirs</author>
	<datestamp>1263206700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There's a review at:</p><p><a href="http://www.silentpcreview.com/asus-ul80vt" title="silentpcreview.com">http://www.silentpcreview.com/asus-ul80vt</a> [silentpcreview.com]</p><p>They got a runtime of 9hrs 11min while web browsing, but it was running faster than expected so they thought that 10 hrs wasn't out of the realm of possibility.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's a review at : http : //www.silentpcreview.com/asus-ul80vt [ silentpcreview.com ] They got a runtime of 9hrs 11min while web browsing , but it was running faster than expected so they thought that 10 hrs was n't out of the realm of possibility .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's a review at:http://www.silentpcreview.com/asus-ul80vt [silentpcreview.com]They got a runtime of 9hrs 11min while web browsing, but it was running faster than expected so they thought that 10 hrs wasn't out of the realm of possibility.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30732254</id>
	<title>Re:Just over $1,000</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263222180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I bought a Lenovo laptop a few weeks ago with an i7, Nvidia 240M, 4 GB of RAM and a 500 GB hard drive for $999.  If that isn't high end, I'm not sure what would qualify.</p></div><p>Yeah, I got the y550 from Newegg too. Nice machine. Ignore the other guy, he's confusing high end with "highest perfromance with zero regard to performance/dollar."</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I bought a Lenovo laptop a few weeks ago with an i7 , Nvidia 240M , 4 GB of RAM and a 500 GB hard drive for $ 999 .
If that is n't high end , I 'm not sure what would qualify.Yeah , I got the y550 from Newegg too .
Nice machine .
Ignore the other guy , he 's confusing high end with " highest perfromance with zero regard to performance/dollar .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bought a Lenovo laptop a few weeks ago with an i7, Nvidia 240M, 4 GB of RAM and a 500 GB hard drive for $999.
If that isn't high end, I'm not sure what would qualify.Yeah, I got the y550 from Newegg too.
Nice machine.
Ignore the other guy, he's confusing high end with "highest perfromance with zero regard to performance/dollar.
"
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30728742</id>
	<title>Maxwell</title>
	<author>Verdatum</author>
	<datestamp>1263204480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Saving power by way of second by second switching?  I know it doesn't really apply, but <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell's\_demon" title="wikipedia.org">Maxwell's Demon</a> [wikipedia.org] comes to mind.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Saving power by way of second by second switching ?
I know it does n't really apply , but Maxwell 's Demon [ wikipedia.org ] comes to mind .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Saving power by way of second by second switching?
I know it doesn't really apply, but Maxwell's Demon [wikipedia.org] comes to mind.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_11_1731208.30732230</id>
	<title>Re:Bloatware?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263222000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The question is not 'will it run linux' as chances are it will. More specifically, is the transparency hardware or software? Will at least the majority of the power saving features work without ludicrous hacks to the kernel? If this is the case, I'd probably get it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The question is not 'will it run linux ' as chances are it will .
More specifically , is the transparency hardware or software ?
Will at least the majority of the power saving features work without ludicrous hacks to the kernel ?
If this is the case , I 'd probably get it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The question is not 'will it run linux' as chances are it will.
More specifically, is the transparency hardware or software?
Will at least the majority of the power saving features work without ludicrous hacks to the kernel?
If this is the case, I'd probably get it.</sentencetext>
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