<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_01_09_223205</id>
	<title>Psystar Activation Servers Down?</title>
	<author>Soulskill</author>
	<datestamp>1263034140000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>An anonymous reader writes <i>"I purchased Rebel EFI in support of Psystar's crusade back in October.  Just 3 short months later, I have no support.  I found this out when I upgraded my hard drive and installed Snow Leopard using Rebel EFI.  The program can no longer 'phone home' to activate or download/install drivers.  This is a direct contradiction to Psystar's promise posted on their website: 'Psystar will continue to support all of its existing customers of hardware and software through this transitional period. Warranties on hardware will continue to be honored as long the customer has a valid warranty. Rebel EFI support for existing customers, as always, will remain exclusively available through email and the built-in ticket interface.' Has anyone else run into this issue?  It has been 9 days with no response from Psystar by e-mail or phone."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>An anonymous reader writes " I purchased Rebel EFI in support of Psystar 's crusade back in October .
Just 3 short months later , I have no support .
I found this out when I upgraded my hard drive and installed Snow Leopard using Rebel EFI .
The program can no longer 'phone home ' to activate or download/install drivers .
This is a direct contradiction to Psystar 's promise posted on their website : 'Psystar will continue to support all of its existing customers of hardware and software through this transitional period .
Warranties on hardware will continue to be honored as long the customer has a valid warranty .
Rebel EFI support for existing customers , as always , will remain exclusively available through email and the built-in ticket interface .
' Has anyone else run into this issue ?
It has been 9 days with no response from Psystar by e-mail or phone .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An anonymous reader writes "I purchased Rebel EFI in support of Psystar's crusade back in October.
Just 3 short months later, I have no support.
I found this out when I upgraded my hard drive and installed Snow Leopard using Rebel EFI.
The program can no longer 'phone home' to activate or download/install drivers.
This is a direct contradiction to Psystar's promise posted on their website: 'Psystar will continue to support all of its existing customers of hardware and software through this transitional period.
Warranties on hardware will continue to be honored as long the customer has a valid warranty.
Rebel EFI support for existing customers, as always, will remain exclusively available through email and the built-in ticket interface.
' Has anyone else run into this issue?
It has been 9 days with no response from Psystar by e-mail or phone.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710560</id>
	<title>Re:Good for you</title>
	<author>ElusiveMind</author>
	<datestamp>1263040500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Took the words out of my mouth. You BUY a product from people set on circumventing both a license and technology. Then you have to activate it (to prevent piracy of their product - oh the irony). And then they go out of business.

Stick with the legitimate product and you don't lose.

Oh<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... and if you purchased to join the crusade, then allow me to hand your head back to you - unattached of course. Your side lost.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Took the words out of my mouth .
You BUY a product from people set on circumventing both a license and technology .
Then you have to activate it ( to prevent piracy of their product - oh the irony ) .
And then they go out of business .
Stick with the legitimate product and you do n't lose .
Oh ... and if you purchased to join the crusade , then allow me to hand your head back to you - unattached of course .
Your side lost .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Took the words out of my mouth.
You BUY a product from people set on circumventing both a license and technology.
Then you have to activate it (to prevent piracy of their product - oh the irony).
And then they go out of business.
Stick with the legitimate product and you don't lose.
Oh ... and if you purchased to join the crusade, then allow me to hand your head back to you - unattached of course.
Your side lost.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30714000</id>
	<title>you get what you pay for</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263130800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>next time don't try to be cheap and buy a real mac instead</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>next time do n't try to be cheap and buy a real mac instead</tokentext>
<sentencetext>next time don't try to be cheap and buy a real mac instead</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710976</id>
	<title>Why did anyone support Pystar in the first place?</title>
	<author>Theovon</author>
	<datestamp>1263043920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When Pystar first brought a machine on the market, it became quickly clear that their hardware was junk and they didn't know what they were doing.  IIRC, one early reviewer bought a machine and found that it was unstable because they had OVERCLOCKED IT.</p><p>Having experimented (and failed) with overclocking myself, spending lots of time reading and dicussing on forums issues like Vdroop, Vgtl, Vdd, multiplier ratios, etc., etc., I can tell you that running a processor out of spec is challenging because you don't know where in that processor's performance bin you are, and your results are almost guaranteed to be different from someone else's, and Intel Quad cores are notoriously hard to overclock, and well it boils down to more of an art form of experimentation and testing than science because you can't get Intel to tell you the actual characteristics of the chip you bought.  And moreover, you can run all the artificial tests you want and still end up with an unreliable system because memtest86 and prime95 don't test all the corner cases and enough combinations of scenarios.  (I had run memory and processor tests for a week straight, and everything seemed fine, yet I would get kernel panics while parallel compiling Gentoo packages.  I could just never manage to figure out the right combination of Vdd and Vgtl, and I could never for sure rule out the memory system being the source of the errors.  So I just decided that I'd rather have a reliable system and longer life than 20\% more throughput.)</p><p>It's irresponsible for vendors to sell you an overclocked system, because they can't guarantee that it's reliable.  Rather, they are fooling you into thinking you're getting a better system than you are, ripping you off in the process.  This is just one example of the many incompetent and/or highly questionable things that Pystar was doing that made me want to stay as far away from them as possible.</p><p>It would be one thing if this company tried to produce BETTER hardware than Apple.  Trouble is, that would require intelligence and discerment, and people with that kind of smarts would also have been smart enough not to screw with Apple directly.</p><p>If I wanted to sell knock-off Apple hardware here's how I might go about it:</p><p>- Find a way to become an Apple reseller with minimal contractual obligations.  This way, you can sell MacOS X discs without raising any major suspicions.<br>- Sell and support genuine Apple hardware.<br>- Also sell and support high quality Linux and Windows white-box PCs that just happen to have peripherals compatible with MacOS X.<br>- Add development support to an open source EFI project<br>- Let word of mouth get around that your systems are good for running MacOS<br>- But publically state that you do not provide OS support in this configuration because it may violate Apple's EULA.<br>- Get your lawyers to make sure you have plausible deniability every way you turn.</p><p>All of this requires forethought (or hindsight in my case).  Pystar clearly did not have this.  (I might not either.  I might have just suggested a really bad plan.)</p><p>But like I say, the main thing that bothered me about them is that their hardware was crap.  It's one thing to ride on Apple's shoulders.  Directly supporting OSX but on GOOD hardware is arguably questionable, from a legal standpoint.  It's entirely another matter to do incompetent things that could make them look bad.  That'll REALLY get them chasing after you.</p><p>I've never really understood the whole hacking culture in the first place.  People don't want to buy iPhones because they're not hackable enough.  Ok, I support Free Software, so I can totally get on board with avoiding something that's proprietary and has DRM and all that.  But even if the iPhone were 100\% open source, it still would not interest me to hack it.  I'm a professional chip designer.  I like designing NEW hardware.  I like being given an engineering challenge that requires that I create new functionality to serve a market need.  I have no desire to confine myself to the spe</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When Pystar first brought a machine on the market , it became quickly clear that their hardware was junk and they did n't know what they were doing .
IIRC , one early reviewer bought a machine and found that it was unstable because they had OVERCLOCKED IT.Having experimented ( and failed ) with overclocking myself , spending lots of time reading and dicussing on forums issues like Vdroop , Vgtl , Vdd , multiplier ratios , etc. , etc. , I can tell you that running a processor out of spec is challenging because you do n't know where in that processor 's performance bin you are , and your results are almost guaranteed to be different from someone else 's , and Intel Quad cores are notoriously hard to overclock , and well it boils down to more of an art form of experimentation and testing than science because you ca n't get Intel to tell you the actual characteristics of the chip you bought .
And moreover , you can run all the artificial tests you want and still end up with an unreliable system because memtest86 and prime95 do n't test all the corner cases and enough combinations of scenarios .
( I had run memory and processor tests for a week straight , and everything seemed fine , yet I would get kernel panics while parallel compiling Gentoo packages .
I could just never manage to figure out the right combination of Vdd and Vgtl , and I could never for sure rule out the memory system being the source of the errors .
So I just decided that I 'd rather have a reliable system and longer life than 20 \ % more throughput .
) It 's irresponsible for vendors to sell you an overclocked system , because they ca n't guarantee that it 's reliable .
Rather , they are fooling you into thinking you 're getting a better system than you are , ripping you off in the process .
This is just one example of the many incompetent and/or highly questionable things that Pystar was doing that made me want to stay as far away from them as possible.It would be one thing if this company tried to produce BETTER hardware than Apple .
Trouble is , that would require intelligence and discerment , and people with that kind of smarts would also have been smart enough not to screw with Apple directly.If I wanted to sell knock-off Apple hardware here 's how I might go about it : - Find a way to become an Apple reseller with minimal contractual obligations .
This way , you can sell MacOS X discs without raising any major suspicions.- Sell and support genuine Apple hardware.- Also sell and support high quality Linux and Windows white-box PCs that just happen to have peripherals compatible with MacOS X.- Add development support to an open source EFI project- Let word of mouth get around that your systems are good for running MacOS- But publically state that you do not provide OS support in this configuration because it may violate Apple 's EULA.- Get your lawyers to make sure you have plausible deniability every way you turn.All of this requires forethought ( or hindsight in my case ) .
Pystar clearly did not have this .
( I might not either .
I might have just suggested a really bad plan .
) But like I say , the main thing that bothered me about them is that their hardware was crap .
It 's one thing to ride on Apple 's shoulders .
Directly supporting OSX but on GOOD hardware is arguably questionable , from a legal standpoint .
It 's entirely another matter to do incompetent things that could make them look bad .
That 'll REALLY get them chasing after you.I 've never really understood the whole hacking culture in the first place .
People do n't want to buy iPhones because they 're not hackable enough .
Ok , I support Free Software , so I can totally get on board with avoiding something that 's proprietary and has DRM and all that .
But even if the iPhone were 100 \ % open source , it still would not interest me to hack it .
I 'm a professional chip designer .
I like designing NEW hardware .
I like being given an engineering challenge that requires that I create new functionality to serve a market need .
I have no desire to confine myself to the spe</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When Pystar first brought a machine on the market, it became quickly clear that their hardware was junk and they didn't know what they were doing.
IIRC, one early reviewer bought a machine and found that it was unstable because they had OVERCLOCKED IT.Having experimented (and failed) with overclocking myself, spending lots of time reading and dicussing on forums issues like Vdroop, Vgtl, Vdd, multiplier ratios, etc., etc., I can tell you that running a processor out of spec is challenging because you don't know where in that processor's performance bin you are, and your results are almost guaranteed to be different from someone else's, and Intel Quad cores are notoriously hard to overclock, and well it boils down to more of an art form of experimentation and testing than science because you can't get Intel to tell you the actual characteristics of the chip you bought.
And moreover, you can run all the artificial tests you want and still end up with an unreliable system because memtest86 and prime95 don't test all the corner cases and enough combinations of scenarios.
(I had run memory and processor tests for a week straight, and everything seemed fine, yet I would get kernel panics while parallel compiling Gentoo packages.
I could just never manage to figure out the right combination of Vdd and Vgtl, and I could never for sure rule out the memory system being the source of the errors.
So I just decided that I'd rather have a reliable system and longer life than 20\% more throughput.
)It's irresponsible for vendors to sell you an overclocked system, because they can't guarantee that it's reliable.
Rather, they are fooling you into thinking you're getting a better system than you are, ripping you off in the process.
This is just one example of the many incompetent and/or highly questionable things that Pystar was doing that made me want to stay as far away from them as possible.It would be one thing if this company tried to produce BETTER hardware than Apple.
Trouble is, that would require intelligence and discerment, and people with that kind of smarts would also have been smart enough not to screw with Apple directly.If I wanted to sell knock-off Apple hardware here's how I might go about it:- Find a way to become an Apple reseller with minimal contractual obligations.
This way, you can sell MacOS X discs without raising any major suspicions.- Sell and support genuine Apple hardware.- Also sell and support high quality Linux and Windows white-box PCs that just happen to have peripherals compatible with MacOS X.- Add development support to an open source EFI project- Let word of mouth get around that your systems are good for running MacOS- But publically state that you do not provide OS support in this configuration because it may violate Apple's EULA.- Get your lawyers to make sure you have plausible deniability every way you turn.All of this requires forethought (or hindsight in my case).
Pystar clearly did not have this.
(I might not either.
I might have just suggested a really bad plan.
)But like I say, the main thing that bothered me about them is that their hardware was crap.
It's one thing to ride on Apple's shoulders.
Directly supporting OSX but on GOOD hardware is arguably questionable, from a legal standpoint.
It's entirely another matter to do incompetent things that could make them look bad.
That'll REALLY get them chasing after you.I've never really understood the whole hacking culture in the first place.
People don't want to buy iPhones because they're not hackable enough.
Ok, I support Free Software, so I can totally get on board with avoiding something that's proprietary and has DRM and all that.
But even if the iPhone were 100\% open source, it still would not interest me to hack it.
I'm a professional chip designer.
I like designing NEW hardware.
I like being given an engineering challenge that requires that I create new functionality to serve a market need.
I have no desire to confine myself to the spe</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710328</id>
	<title>Good for you</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263038160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It seems you needed a lesson in respect of other's hard work.  Now you've learned the hard way that it doesn't pay to try and rip off someone.</p><p>Speaking seriously though, after the injunction that included RebelEFI, what did you think was going to happen ?  Why even purchase a product that requires activation when all it is, is a rip off of an open source product ?  I'm betting there's going to be a lot of flames in this discussion.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It seems you needed a lesson in respect of other 's hard work .
Now you 've learned the hard way that it does n't pay to try and rip off someone.Speaking seriously though , after the injunction that included RebelEFI , what did you think was going to happen ?
Why even purchase a product that requires activation when all it is , is a rip off of an open source product ?
I 'm betting there 's going to be a lot of flames in this discussion .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It seems you needed a lesson in respect of other's hard work.
Now you've learned the hard way that it doesn't pay to try and rip off someone.Speaking seriously though, after the injunction that included RebelEFI, what did you think was going to happen ?
Why even purchase a product that requires activation when all it is, is a rip off of an open source product ?
I'm betting there's going to be a lot of flames in this discussion.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30712694</id>
	<title>Re:Live and learn</title>
	<author>mog007</author>
	<datestamp>1263060960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Nazis did a pretty good job of building up Germany's economy when they were in power, too.  Gearing up for war is a quick way to build up your economy quickly.  Of course, when the war is over the bubble usually bursts and a recession or depression hits, but that's the way it goes sometimes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Nazis did a pretty good job of building up Germany 's economy when they were in power , too .
Gearing up for war is a quick way to build up your economy quickly .
Of course , when the war is over the bubble usually bursts and a recession or depression hits , but that 's the way it goes sometimes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Nazis did a pretty good job of building up Germany's economy when they were in power, too.
Gearing up for war is a quick way to build up your economy quickly.
Of course, when the war is over the bubble usually bursts and a recession or depression hits, but that's the way it goes sometimes.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710550</id>
	<title>Re:Why is this News???  #editorfail</title>
	<author>Kjella</author>
	<datestamp>1263040440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yep. So, what are you going to do? Sue them? Get in line and there won't be anything left for you anyway. Usually I feel sorry for customers abandoned by a bankrupcy but in the case of Psystar I'd say this is more #suckerfail than anything. Anyone with the sligbtest clue about IP law would know that Psystar, right or wrong, would be slapped to hell over this. And probably being in the wrong, too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yep .
So , what are you going to do ?
Sue them ?
Get in line and there wo n't be anything left for you anyway .
Usually I feel sorry for customers abandoned by a bankrupcy but in the case of Psystar I 'd say this is more # suckerfail than anything .
Anyone with the sligbtest clue about IP law would know that Psystar , right or wrong , would be slapped to hell over this .
And probably being in the wrong , too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yep.
So, what are you going to do?
Sue them?
Get in line and there won't be anything left for you anyway.
Usually I feel sorry for customers abandoned by a bankrupcy but in the case of Psystar I'd say this is more #suckerfail than anything.
Anyone with the sligbtest clue about IP law would know that Psystar, right or wrong, would be slapped to hell over this.
And probably being in the wrong, too.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710750</id>
	<title>Re:Never pay money to join a crusade</title>
	<author>HTH NE1</author>
	<datestamp>1263042060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I learned that after paying money to 321 Studios for their DVD X Copy software (via Best Buy). Registered but didn't get around to using it before they lost in court, and since it required activation and the server was gone, I never got to use it.</p><p>Not that I needed to. There's very nice free software out there for that purpose that will continue to function long after their development ceases. I was just contributing monetarily to their fight.</p><p>But then they sold their e-mail list to spammers....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I learned that after paying money to 321 Studios for their DVD X Copy software ( via Best Buy ) .
Registered but did n't get around to using it before they lost in court , and since it required activation and the server was gone , I never got to use it.Not that I needed to .
There 's very nice free software out there for that purpose that will continue to function long after their development ceases .
I was just contributing monetarily to their fight.But then they sold their e-mail list to spammers... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I learned that after paying money to 321 Studios for their DVD X Copy software (via Best Buy).
Registered but didn't get around to using it before they lost in court, and since it required activation and the server was gone, I never got to use it.Not that I needed to.
There's very nice free software out there for that purpose that will continue to function long after their development ceases.
I was just contributing monetarily to their fight.But then they sold their e-mail list to spammers....</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710318</id>
	<title>Hard to tell</title>
	<author>Threni</author>
	<datestamp>1263038040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What the hell is Psystar?  Are we expected to know?  Google it?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What the hell is Psystar ?
Are we expected to know ?
Google it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What the hell is Psystar?
Are we expected to know?
Google it?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30712648</id>
	<title>Amazing.</title>
	<author>Narcogen</author>
	<datestamp>1263060120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>People really are amazing.</p><blockquote><div><p>"I purchased Rebel EFI in support of Psystar's crusade back in October."</p></div></blockquote><p>In other words, you did so for reasons that were, at least in part, ideological. Unwilling to pay the price Apple sets for the hardware/software combinations it sells, and seemingly unable to use any of the available open source solutions for installing a retail OS X disc onto commodity hardware, you chose to patronize a company whose business model was widely known to be legally questionable at best, and which was engaged in an ongoing legal battle with a company with the intent and resources to defend their assertion that Psystar's business practice was illegal.</p><blockquote><div><p>I found this out when I upgraded my hard drive and installed Snow Leopard using Rebel EFI. The program can no longer 'phone home' to activate or download/install drivers. This is a direct contradiction to Psystar's promise posted on their website: 'Psystar will continue to support all of its existing customers of hardware and software through this transitional period. Warranties on hardware will continue to be honored as long the customer has a valid warranty.</p></div></blockquote><p>Now, having ignored those who posted that they felt Psystar was doing something wrong by selling their so-called "Open Computers" as well as those who suggested that the core of the Rebel EFI product itself was code copied without license or attribution from existing open source projects designed to accomplish the same aim, you wish to take Psystar to task for failing to meet the promises on its website.</p><p>What made you think this was a company that intended to keep its promises?</p><p>What made you think this was a company that would be able to stay in business long enough to keep any promises it actually did intend to?</p><p>You didn't spend your money on a product, and you didn't pay it to a going concern. You made your purchase to make a statement-- that you believed Psystar was doing something good, or at least something right. Your voice was heard; unfortunately, things did not turn out that well.</p><p>What more can you possibly ask? This is like picking a lame horse to win because of the great payoff odds, and then beating it into glue when it fails to place.</p><p>Sorry, I don't have a car analogy for this. Give me a minute.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>People really are amazing .
" I purchased Rebel EFI in support of Psystar 's crusade back in October .
" In other words , you did so for reasons that were , at least in part , ideological .
Unwilling to pay the price Apple sets for the hardware/software combinations it sells , and seemingly unable to use any of the available open source solutions for installing a retail OS X disc onto commodity hardware , you chose to patronize a company whose business model was widely known to be legally questionable at best , and which was engaged in an ongoing legal battle with a company with the intent and resources to defend their assertion that Psystar 's business practice was illegal.I found this out when I upgraded my hard drive and installed Snow Leopard using Rebel EFI .
The program can no longer 'phone home ' to activate or download/install drivers .
This is a direct contradiction to Psystar 's promise posted on their website : 'Psystar will continue to support all of its existing customers of hardware and software through this transitional period .
Warranties on hardware will continue to be honored as long the customer has a valid warranty.Now , having ignored those who posted that they felt Psystar was doing something wrong by selling their so-called " Open Computers " as well as those who suggested that the core of the Rebel EFI product itself was code copied without license or attribution from existing open source projects designed to accomplish the same aim , you wish to take Psystar to task for failing to meet the promises on its website.What made you think this was a company that intended to keep its promises ? What made you think this was a company that would be able to stay in business long enough to keep any promises it actually did intend to ? You did n't spend your money on a product , and you did n't pay it to a going concern .
You made your purchase to make a statement-- that you believed Psystar was doing something good , or at least something right .
Your voice was heard ; unfortunately , things did not turn out that well.What more can you possibly ask ?
This is like picking a lame horse to win because of the great payoff odds , and then beating it into glue when it fails to place.Sorry , I do n't have a car analogy for this .
Give me a minute .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People really are amazing.
"I purchased Rebel EFI in support of Psystar's crusade back in October.
"In other words, you did so for reasons that were, at least in part, ideological.
Unwilling to pay the price Apple sets for the hardware/software combinations it sells, and seemingly unable to use any of the available open source solutions for installing a retail OS X disc onto commodity hardware, you chose to patronize a company whose business model was widely known to be legally questionable at best, and which was engaged in an ongoing legal battle with a company with the intent and resources to defend their assertion that Psystar's business practice was illegal.I found this out when I upgraded my hard drive and installed Snow Leopard using Rebel EFI.
The program can no longer 'phone home' to activate or download/install drivers.
This is a direct contradiction to Psystar's promise posted on their website: 'Psystar will continue to support all of its existing customers of hardware and software through this transitional period.
Warranties on hardware will continue to be honored as long the customer has a valid warranty.Now, having ignored those who posted that they felt Psystar was doing something wrong by selling their so-called "Open Computers" as well as those who suggested that the core of the Rebel EFI product itself was code copied without license or attribution from existing open source projects designed to accomplish the same aim, you wish to take Psystar to task for failing to meet the promises on its website.What made you think this was a company that intended to keep its promises?What made you think this was a company that would be able to stay in business long enough to keep any promises it actually did intend to?You didn't spend your money on a product, and you didn't pay it to a going concern.
You made your purchase to make a statement-- that you believed Psystar was doing something good, or at least something right.
Your voice was heard; unfortunately, things did not turn out that well.What more can you possibly ask?
This is like picking a lame horse to win because of the great payoff odds, and then beating it into glue when it fails to place.Sorry, I don't have a car analogy for this.
Give me a minute.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710354</id>
	<title>You're a bloody moron.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263038400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>1. This is why you don't buy anything (if you want support) from a company that is getting sued out of existence.<br>

2. This is why you don't buy anything that you can just do for free. It really isn't difficult to make a Hackintosh these days. You bought something that only simplified the process marginally, if even that.<br>

3. This is why you don't be really, really stupid about buying things.</htmltext>
<tokenext>1 .
This is why you do n't buy anything ( if you want support ) from a company that is getting sued out of existence .
2. This is why you do n't buy anything that you can just do for free .
It really is n't difficult to make a Hackintosh these days .
You bought something that only simplified the process marginally , if even that .
3. This is why you do n't be really , really stupid about buying things .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1.
This is why you don't buy anything (if you want support) from a company that is getting sued out of existence.
2. This is why you don't buy anything that you can just do for free.
It really isn't difficult to make a Hackintosh these days.
You bought something that only simplified the process marginally, if even that.
3. This is why you don't be really, really stupid about buying things.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710296</id>
	<title>Never pay money...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263037920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>...to join a crusade.</htmltext>
<tokenext>...to join a crusade .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...to join a crusade.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710308</id>
	<title>Live and learn</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263037980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Lots of people thought that the German National Socialist party was going to be able to turn the German economy around, restore Germany's relevance in the world, and ultimately defeat the countries that put them in that situation at the Treaty of Versailles.</p><p>Look, not every horse can place.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Lots of people thought that the German National Socialist party was going to be able to turn the German economy around , restore Germany 's relevance in the world , and ultimately defeat the countries that put them in that situation at the Treaty of Versailles.Look , not every horse can place .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lots of people thought that the German National Socialist party was going to be able to turn the German economy around, restore Germany's relevance in the world, and ultimately defeat the countries that put them in that situation at the Treaty of Versailles.Look, not every horse can place.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710376</id>
	<title>Really.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263038640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is what you get for giving money to Psystar. Anyone could have told you it's a bad idea.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is what you get for giving money to Psystar .
Anyone could have told you it 's a bad idea .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is what you get for giving money to Psystar.
Anyone could have told you it's a bad idea.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30712806</id>
	<title>Wow... deja vu</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263062580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I purchased Crack Rocks in support of my drug dealer's crusade back in October. Just 3 short months later, I have no support. I found this out when I upgraded my pipe and got high as the lords using Crack Rocks. The mind can no longer 'phone home' to think or comprehend clearly. This is a direct contradiction to my drug dealer's promise posted on their website: 'Drug Dealer will continue to support all of its existing customers of pipes and rocks through this transitional period. Warranties on pipes will continue to be honored as long the customer has a valid warranty. Crack Rock support for existing customers, as always, will remain exclusively available through email and the built-in ticket interface.' Has anyone else run into this issue? It has been 9 days with no response from my drug dealer by e-mail or phone.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I purchased Crack Rocks in support of my drug dealer 's crusade back in October .
Just 3 short months later , I have no support .
I found this out when I upgraded my pipe and got high as the lords using Crack Rocks .
The mind can no longer 'phone home ' to think or comprehend clearly .
This is a direct contradiction to my drug dealer 's promise posted on their website : 'Drug Dealer will continue to support all of its existing customers of pipes and rocks through this transitional period .
Warranties on pipes will continue to be honored as long the customer has a valid warranty .
Crack Rock support for existing customers , as always , will remain exclusively available through email and the built-in ticket interface .
' Has anyone else run into this issue ?
It has been 9 days with no response from my drug dealer by e-mail or phone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I purchased Crack Rocks in support of my drug dealer's crusade back in October.
Just 3 short months later, I have no support.
I found this out when I upgraded my pipe and got high as the lords using Crack Rocks.
The mind can no longer 'phone home' to think or comprehend clearly.
This is a direct contradiction to my drug dealer's promise posted on their website: 'Drug Dealer will continue to support all of its existing customers of pipes and rocks through this transitional period.
Warranties on pipes will continue to be honored as long the customer has a valid warranty.
Crack Rock support for existing customers, as always, will remain exclusively available through email and the built-in ticket interface.
' Has anyone else run into this issue?
It has been 9 days with no response from my drug dealer by e-mail or phone.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30711918</id>
	<title>Rebel EFI is pirated free software.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263051120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I am amazed that people have any serious discussions about this, or that they call it "Pystar's Rebel EFI".  Rebel EFI is an open source program that was stripped of copyright notices, renamed, and re-distributed without authorization.  To assign it to Pystar, and certainly to give Pystar money for it, is dignity that they don't deserve.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am amazed that people have any serious discussions about this , or that they call it " Pystar 's Rebel EFI " .
Rebel EFI is an open source program that was stripped of copyright notices , renamed , and re-distributed without authorization .
To assign it to Pystar , and certainly to give Pystar money for it , is dignity that they do n't deserve .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am amazed that people have any serious discussions about this, or that they call it "Pystar's Rebel EFI".
Rebel EFI is an open source program that was stripped of copyright notices, renamed, and re-distributed without authorization.
To assign it to Pystar, and certainly to give Pystar money for it, is dignity that they don't deserve.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710424</id>
	<title>Re:Live and learn</title>
	<author>palegray.net</author>
	<datestamp>1263039240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>BadAnalogyGuy, this has to be the most creative application of Godwin's Law seen on Slashdot in recent history. Well done.</htmltext>
<tokenext>BadAnalogyGuy , this has to be the most creative application of Godwin 's Law seen on Slashdot in recent history .
Well done .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>BadAnalogyGuy, this has to be the most creative application of Godwin's Law seen on Slashdot in recent history.
Well done.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710308</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30713902</id>
	<title>Re:Great idea but shouldn't have bought from them</title>
	<author>itsdapead</author>
	<datestamp>1263128640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Apple is pretty controlling, in my opinion,</p></div><p>So don't use Apple products then.
</p><p>People seem to want to have their cake and eat it: they disapprove of Apple but seem to think they have some god-given right to use their products.
</p><p>If you believe that "information should be free" go install Debian.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Apple is pretty controlling , in my opinion,So do n't use Apple products then .
People seem to want to have their cake and eat it : they disapprove of Apple but seem to think they have some god-given right to use their products .
If you believe that " information should be free " go install Debian .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apple is pretty controlling, in my opinion,So don't use Apple products then.
People seem to want to have their cake and eat it: they disapprove of Apple but seem to think they have some god-given right to use their products.
If you believe that "information should be free" go install Debian.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710390</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30712868</id>
	<title>Re:One moment please.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263063480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But ninjas defeat pirates ten out of ten times.</p><p>You should be scared.  Unless you like defeat, that is.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But ninjas defeat pirates ten out of ten times.You should be scared .
Unless you like defeat , that is .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But ninjas defeat pirates ten out of ten times.You should be scared.
Unless you like defeat, that is.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710786</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30714568</id>
	<title>Re:Why did anyone support Pystar in the first plac</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263140040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It is simply not possible that you are an engineer: you actually VOLUNTEERED to provide RELEVANT input with MATERIAL information, without jargon or intellectual condescension, all in a timely fashion and using elegant, clear language.</p><p>Those facts give you away as SOME kind of troll. Now be honest: who ARE you and what are you UP to? How's the new liver working, Steve?</p><p>Signed (ironically, for the humor-impaired),</p><p>Technical writer (HW and SW) with 30 years in the industry</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It is simply not possible that you are an engineer : you actually VOLUNTEERED to provide RELEVANT input with MATERIAL information , without jargon or intellectual condescension , all in a timely fashion and using elegant , clear language.Those facts give you away as SOME kind of troll .
Now be honest : who ARE you and what are you UP to ?
How 's the new liver working , Steve ? Signed ( ironically , for the humor-impaired ) ,Technical writer ( HW and SW ) with 30 years in the industry</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is simply not possible that you are an engineer: you actually VOLUNTEERED to provide RELEVANT input with MATERIAL information, without jargon or intellectual condescension, all in a timely fashion and using elegant, clear language.Those facts give you away as SOME kind of troll.
Now be honest: who ARE you and what are you UP to?
How's the new liver working, Steve?Signed (ironically, for the humor-impaired),Technical writer (HW and SW) with 30 years in the industry</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710976</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30714060</id>
	<title>Re:Hard to tell</title>
	<author>hairyfeet</author>
	<datestamp>1263131820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Probably get flamed for saying this, but I got karma: Psystar was a lame company that tried to do an end run around the Apple EULA by buying retail OSX and installing it on basic PCs, which there is a market for because Steve Jobs refuses to acknowledge that since Woz left there is still a large market for a moderately priced Apple tower with expansion slots.</p><p>That said the sad part IMHO is the probably could have got away with it, or at least made the courts seriously debate the limits of EULAs, if they just had even a thimbleful of common sense. Instead of installing OSX directly, they should have instead "prepped" the HDD with EFI, along with a script that would have answered any questions during installation, but NOT installed the actual OS. That way the customer would have to break the seal on the OSX box and insert the disc, then simply walk away for 30 minutes while it installed.</p><p>Since they weren't breaking the seal or actually installing anything made by Apple that would have given them a way to argue that they were simply selling a whitebox with tools and it was the customer who was deciding what OS to install. to give themselves an even better leg to stand on they could have also wrote a similar script for Windows and Ubuntu and offered both as an option, then it would have come down strictly to the EULA, as Psystar would have been simply offering a choice of three OSes that anyone can buy boxed at retail, and the customer was deciding what to run him/herself. </p><p>

Instead they imaged it which even those that hate EULAs knew was a no-no and gave them exactly jack squat chance in court. If the guy who wrote TFA actually gave them money...well there is a saying about certain kinds of people and their money being soon parted, isn't there?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Probably get flamed for saying this , but I got karma : Psystar was a lame company that tried to do an end run around the Apple EULA by buying retail OSX and installing it on basic PCs , which there is a market for because Steve Jobs refuses to acknowledge that since Woz left there is still a large market for a moderately priced Apple tower with expansion slots.That said the sad part IMHO is the probably could have got away with it , or at least made the courts seriously debate the limits of EULAs , if they just had even a thimbleful of common sense .
Instead of installing OSX directly , they should have instead " prepped " the HDD with EFI , along with a script that would have answered any questions during installation , but NOT installed the actual OS .
That way the customer would have to break the seal on the OSX box and insert the disc , then simply walk away for 30 minutes while it installed.Since they were n't breaking the seal or actually installing anything made by Apple that would have given them a way to argue that they were simply selling a whitebox with tools and it was the customer who was deciding what OS to install .
to give themselves an even better leg to stand on they could have also wrote a similar script for Windows and Ubuntu and offered both as an option , then it would have come down strictly to the EULA , as Psystar would have been simply offering a choice of three OSes that anyone can buy boxed at retail , and the customer was deciding what to run him/herself .
Instead they imaged it which even those that hate EULAs knew was a no-no and gave them exactly jack squat chance in court .
If the guy who wrote TFA actually gave them money...well there is a saying about certain kinds of people and their money being soon parted , is n't there ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Probably get flamed for saying this, but I got karma: Psystar was a lame company that tried to do an end run around the Apple EULA by buying retail OSX and installing it on basic PCs, which there is a market for because Steve Jobs refuses to acknowledge that since Woz left there is still a large market for a moderately priced Apple tower with expansion slots.That said the sad part IMHO is the probably could have got away with it, or at least made the courts seriously debate the limits of EULAs, if they just had even a thimbleful of common sense.
Instead of installing OSX directly, they should have instead "prepped" the HDD with EFI, along with a script that would have answered any questions during installation, but NOT installed the actual OS.
That way the customer would have to break the seal on the OSX box and insert the disc, then simply walk away for 30 minutes while it installed.Since they weren't breaking the seal or actually installing anything made by Apple that would have given them a way to argue that they were simply selling a whitebox with tools and it was the customer who was deciding what OS to install.
to give themselves an even better leg to stand on they could have also wrote a similar script for Windows and Ubuntu and offered both as an option, then it would have come down strictly to the EULA, as Psystar would have been simply offering a choice of three OSes that anyone can buy boxed at retail, and the customer was deciding what to run him/herself.
Instead they imaged it which even those that hate EULAs knew was a no-no and gave them exactly jack squat chance in court.
If the guy who wrote TFA actually gave them money...well there is a saying about certain kinds of people and their money being soon parted, isn't there?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710318</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30717870</id>
	<title>A Bob Dylan Quote</title>
	<author>Swift2001</author>
	<datestamp>1263123960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"To live outside the law, you must be honest."</p><p>It should have been painfully obvious to you that Psystar was headed for the trashheap. I am not disapproving of hackers who put Mac software on generic hardware. Fine with me, and you don't get much fight from Apple, either. But running this operation? Seriously? Have they ever heard of Apple's lawyers? The judge flatly rejected their arguments, which you often still see in these forums. It's a straight case of copyright law.</p><p>Like Dylan said, you can live outside the law, but you better be honest when you do. YOU DON'T NEED that piece of commercial crap you bought because you were a good Party member.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" To live outside the law , you must be honest .
" It should have been painfully obvious to you that Psystar was headed for the trashheap .
I am not disapproving of hackers who put Mac software on generic hardware .
Fine with me , and you do n't get much fight from Apple , either .
But running this operation ?
Seriously ? Have they ever heard of Apple 's lawyers ?
The judge flatly rejected their arguments , which you often still see in these forums .
It 's a straight case of copyright law.Like Dylan said , you can live outside the law , but you better be honest when you do .
YOU DO N'T NEED that piece of commercial crap you bought because you were a good Party member .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"To live outside the law, you must be honest.
"It should have been painfully obvious to you that Psystar was headed for the trashheap.
I am not disapproving of hackers who put Mac software on generic hardware.
Fine with me, and you don't get much fight from Apple, either.
But running this operation?
Seriously? Have they ever heard of Apple's lawyers?
The judge flatly rejected their arguments, which you often still see in these forums.
It's a straight case of copyright law.Like Dylan said, you can live outside the law, but you better be honest when you do.
YOU DON'T NEED that piece of commercial crap you bought because you were a good Party member.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710316</id>
	<title>How could the outcome be good?</title>
	<author>illumnatLA</author>
	<datestamp>1263038040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I really don't see how anyone in their right mind could honestly expect that Psystar was going to survive aggressively going up against Apple such as they did.  Be glad you got the amount of use that you did out of the pay version of Rebel EFI.

IIRC, RebelEFI is based on a open source EFI... can't remember the name, but I'm sure a fellow slashdotter will mention it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I really do n't see how anyone in their right mind could honestly expect that Psystar was going to survive aggressively going up against Apple such as they did .
Be glad you got the amount of use that you did out of the pay version of Rebel EFI .
IIRC , RebelEFI is based on a open source EFI... ca n't remember the name , but I 'm sure a fellow slashdotter will mention it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I really don't see how anyone in their right mind could honestly expect that Psystar was going to survive aggressively going up against Apple such as they did.
Be glad you got the amount of use that you did out of the pay version of Rebel EFI.
IIRC, RebelEFI is based on a open source EFI... can't remember the name, but I'm sure a fellow slashdotter will mention it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710408</id>
	<title>Re:Hard to tell</title>
	<author>sa1lnr</author>
	<datestamp>1263039000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://slashdot.org/index2.pl?fhfilter=Psystar" title="slashdot.org">http://slashdot.org/index2.pl?fhfilter=Psystar</a> [slashdot.org]</p><p>Who needs google?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //slashdot.org/index2.pl ? fhfilter = Psystar [ slashdot.org ] Who needs google ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://slashdot.org/index2.pl?fhfilter=Psystar [slashdot.org]Who needs google?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710318</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710352</id>
	<title>Re:Never pay money...</title>
	<author>Mooga</author>
	<datestamp>1263038400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>...when you can do it for free.</htmltext>
<tokenext>...when you can do it for free .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...when you can do it for free.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710296</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710374</id>
	<title>Re:Hard to tell</title>
	<author>maxume</author>
	<datestamp>1263038640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It sounds like you have a reasonable plan.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It sounds like you have a reasonable plan .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It sounds like you have a reasonable plan.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710318</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30711096</id>
	<title>Re:Good for you</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263044760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Others hard work?</p><p>What bullshit. They paid for the software, and they can use it on whatever hardware they own if it runs. The bullshit EULA is meaningless.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Others hard work ? What bullshit .
They paid for the software , and they can use it on whatever hardware they own if it runs .
The bullshit EULA is meaningless .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Others hard work?What bullshit.
They paid for the software, and they can use it on whatever hardware they own if it runs.
The bullshit EULA is meaningless.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710328</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710284</id>
	<title>first post</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263037860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>suck my asshole.  Also, seriously?  What kind of retard would send those ass clowns money?</htmltext>
<tokenext>suck my asshole .
Also , seriously ?
What kind of retard would send those ass clowns money ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>suck my asshole.
Also, seriously?
What kind of retard would send those ass clowns money?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30711872</id>
	<title>Re:newsflash</title>
	<author>rdnetto</author>
	<datestamp>1263050760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Up next: People die when they're killed.</p></div><p> <a href="http://img1.ak.crunchyroll.com/i/spire3/465758c51c3033e6677a4c116463f67e1235343828\_full.jpg" title="crunchyroll.com">Too late, someone got in ahead of you.</a> [crunchyroll.com]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Up next : People die when they 're killed .
Too late , someone got in ahead of you .
[ crunchyroll.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Up next: People die when they're killed.
Too late, someone got in ahead of you.
[crunchyroll.com]
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710516</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30711492</id>
	<title>Re:Never pay money...</title>
	<author>Lord Kano</author>
	<datestamp>1263047880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is precisely why I'm no longer a Mac enthusiast.</p><p>LK</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is precisely why I 'm no longer a Mac enthusiast.LK</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is precisely why I'm no longer a Mac enthusiast.LK</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710296</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30718320</id>
	<title>Re:The irony is thick enough to choke you</title>
	<author>nurb432</author>
	<datestamp>1263126960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That is what i was thinking too from the story, why on earth does it have to activate in the first place?   I can accept having to make a backup of the drivers and feeling stupid when the company went bust, but having to activate my "hardware" online is just as bad as everyone else out there and they wouldn't get my dime.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That is what i was thinking too from the story , why on earth does it have to activate in the first place ?
I can accept having to make a backup of the drivers and feeling stupid when the company went bust , but having to activate my " hardware " online is just as bad as everyone else out there and they would n't get my dime .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That is what i was thinking too from the story, why on earth does it have to activate in the first place?
I can accept having to make a backup of the drivers and feeling stupid when the company went bust, but having to activate my "hardware" online is just as bad as everyone else out there and they wouldn't get my dime.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710370</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30713620</id>
	<title>Re:Live and learn</title>
	<author>KDR\_11k</author>
	<datestamp>1263121140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>a rouge movement like the Nazi's</i></p><p>Nazis are brown, red is for Commies!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>a rouge movement like the Nazi'sNazis are brown , red is for Commies !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>a rouge movement like the Nazi'sNazis are brown, red is for Commies!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710732</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30713074</id>
	<title>wtf? (sorry, can't think of a better title)</title>
	<author>pbjones</author>
	<datestamp>1263066900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>you expect a company that has no regard for an EULA to keep it's own word and support their own users? good luck with that. I hope that they return...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>you expect a company that has no regard for an EULA to keep it 's own word and support their own users ?
good luck with that .
I hope that they return.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>you expect a company that has no regard for an EULA to keep it's own word and support their own users?
good luck with that.
I hope that they return...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710348</id>
	<title>Why is this News???   #editorfail</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263038340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I know it's a slow news day but why is this news? The fact that the company that created the software lost a major court case and the company filed for bankruptcy wasn't enough indication that things are not as peachy as the company claimed?<br>#editorfail</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I know it 's a slow news day but why is this news ?
The fact that the company that created the software lost a major court case and the company filed for bankruptcy was n't enough indication that things are not as peachy as the company claimed ? # editorfail</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know it's a slow news day but why is this news?
The fact that the company that created the software lost a major court case and the company filed for bankruptcy wasn't enough indication that things are not as peachy as the company claimed?#editorfail</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710698</id>
	<title>Psystar's crusade was to make money!</title>
	<author>edelbrp</author>
	<datestamp>1263041640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Silly monkey, did you actually think Psystar was fighting Apple on some idealogical grounds other than justifying making money by ripping Apple off?  The irony is thick.  Psystar's infrastructure, which was to protect their profits, takes you down with them on the ship when things go south.  Nice.</p><p>But, who knows, maybe somebody will start a company reverse engineering Psystar's DRM so for a small fee you can get your computer working again?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;')</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Silly monkey , did you actually think Psystar was fighting Apple on some idealogical grounds other than justifying making money by ripping Apple off ?
The irony is thick .
Psystar 's infrastructure , which was to protect their profits , takes you down with them on the ship when things go south .
Nice.But , who knows , maybe somebody will start a company reverse engineering Psystar 's DRM so for a small fee you can get your computer working again ?
; ' )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Silly monkey, did you actually think Psystar was fighting Apple on some idealogical grounds other than justifying making money by ripping Apple off?
The irony is thick.
Psystar's infrastructure, which was to protect their profits, takes you down with them on the ship when things go south.
Nice.But, who knows, maybe somebody will start a company reverse engineering Psystar's DRM so for a small fee you can get your computer working again?
;')</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30713610</id>
	<title>Signal to noise ratio low...</title>
	<author>Mage66</author>
	<datestamp>1263120840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Every time a Psystar thread is posted, it degenerates into people attacking each other over EULAs, Licesing, stealing IP, etc...

This is ground covered constantly to no good result.

Just once, I'd like a Psystar thread to contain useful information about Psystar and it's possible future.

I'm tired of the flaming, attacks, and rehashing of old crap.

An easy way to turn generic hardware into a Hackintosh would be great. I own many Macs of all vintages. I have several 3 - 5 year old PC's, the newest being a Dell Dimension 530 I'd love to turn into a Mac Desktop since it's faster and has a bigger HDD than my Core Duo 2.0ghz Mini.

Someday, I might be able to afford a new iMac or a Mac Pro tower.

But, there's just too much noise in every Psystar thread. Like 99 to 1, noise to signal.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Every time a Psystar thread is posted , it degenerates into people attacking each other over EULAs , Licesing , stealing IP , etc.. . This is ground covered constantly to no good result .
Just once , I 'd like a Psystar thread to contain useful information about Psystar and it 's possible future .
I 'm tired of the flaming , attacks , and rehashing of old crap .
An easy way to turn generic hardware into a Hackintosh would be great .
I own many Macs of all vintages .
I have several 3 - 5 year old PC 's , the newest being a Dell Dimension 530 I 'd love to turn into a Mac Desktop since it 's faster and has a bigger HDD than my Core Duo 2.0ghz Mini .
Someday , I might be able to afford a new iMac or a Mac Pro tower .
But , there 's just too much noise in every Psystar thread .
Like 99 to 1 , noise to signal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Every time a Psystar thread is posted, it degenerates into people attacking each other over EULAs, Licesing, stealing IP, etc...

This is ground covered constantly to no good result.
Just once, I'd like a Psystar thread to contain useful information about Psystar and it's possible future.
I'm tired of the flaming, attacks, and rehashing of old crap.
An easy way to turn generic hardware into a Hackintosh would be great.
I own many Macs of all vintages.
I have several 3 - 5 year old PC's, the newest being a Dell Dimension 530 I'd love to turn into a Mac Desktop since it's faster and has a bigger HDD than my Core Duo 2.0ghz Mini.
Someday, I might be able to afford a new iMac or a Mac Pro tower.
But, there's just too much noise in every Psystar thread.
Like 99 to 1, noise to signal.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710716</id>
	<title>Re:One moment please.</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1263041760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Apple Certified Genius Ninjas</p></div><p>One of those words does not fit in there.... Tip: It starts with G. ^^</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Apple Certified Genius NinjasOne of those words does not fit in there.... Tip : It starts with G. ^ ^</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apple Certified Genius NinjasOne of those words does not fit in there.... Tip: It starts with G. ^^
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710292</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30711142</id>
	<title>You may find a replacement...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263045120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...OS at http://www.ubuntu.com/ http://www.opensuse.org/ http://www.fedoraproject.org/<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...or you may buy the apropriate hardware for your OS at http://www.apple.com/</p><p>Thinking that the court would accept Psystars argumentation against Apples license was foolish.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...OS at http : //www.ubuntu.com/ http : //www.opensuse.org/ http : //www.fedoraproject.org/ ...or you may buy the apropriate hardware for your OS at http : //www.apple.com/Thinking that the court would accept Psystars argumentation against Apples license was foolish .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...OS at http://www.ubuntu.com/ http://www.opensuse.org/ http://www.fedoraproject.org/ ...or you may buy the apropriate hardware for your OS at http://www.apple.com/Thinking that the court would accept Psystars argumentation against Apples license was foolish.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710338</id>
	<title>Lol macfags</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263038220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Troll and Truth begin with the same sound. I had a macbook for three and a half years, after doing mooing, random shutdowns, dead batteries it finally gave up the ghost with the screen going white unless you squeezed it. I guess it is the snow of the leopard.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Troll and Truth begin with the same sound .
I had a macbook for three and a half years , after doing mooing , random shutdowns , dead batteries it finally gave up the ghost with the screen going white unless you squeezed it .
I guess it is the snow of the leopard .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Troll and Truth begin with the same sound.
I had a macbook for three and a half years, after doing mooing, random shutdowns, dead batteries it finally gave up the ghost with the screen going white unless you squeezed it.
I guess it is the snow of the leopard.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710292</id>
	<title>One moment please.</title>
	<author>tacarat</author>
	<datestamp>1263037920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Our Apple Certified Genius Ninjas have your IP address and are on their way over to assist.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Our Apple Certified Genius Ninjas have your IP address and are on their way over to assist .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Our Apple Certified Genius Ninjas have your IP address and are on their way over to assist.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710430</id>
	<title>Re:Hard to tell</title>
	<author>palegray.net</author>
	<datestamp>1263039360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>How's the weather under that rock of yours? <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psystar\_Corporation" title="wikipedia.org">All about the company soon to known as the company formerly known as Psystar</a> [wikipedia.org].</htmltext>
<tokenext>How 's the weather under that rock of yours ?
All about the company soon to known as the company formerly known as Psystar [ wikipedia.org ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How's the weather under that rock of yours?
All about the company soon to known as the company formerly known as Psystar [wikipedia.org].</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30712424</id>
	<title>You should have just bought a Mac</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263056700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Preface: I've become a fanboy, sorry.</p><p>I did.  I ran OS X on a Dell for a while, but you know what?  I really didn't want to deal with all the little pain in the ass things that happen when you run OS X on non-OSX hardware.  No matter what you do, there is ALWAYS something not working right.</p><p>As soon as I bothered to educate myself a little about OS X on Mac hardware (The trackpad pre-right click/gestures sucked ass<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:) I just bit the bullet and bought one.</p><p>It wasn't cheap, but its been a good machine so far my only complaint is the cooling (lack of) and heat it generates.  Other than that its nicer than the Dell I ran OS X on, and cost less (a year or so down the road).</p><p>Running a hackint0sh is fine if you're trying not to spend any money.  If you're going to buy something to do it, just buy a damn machine and do it legit, its a lot less of a bother.</p><p>The irony of it though is that I'm posting this on a MBP, using Chrome running on Windows 7.  What can I say, I had an itch to game a little<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Preface : I 've become a fanboy , sorry.I did .
I ran OS X on a Dell for a while , but you know what ?
I really did n't want to deal with all the little pain in the ass things that happen when you run OS X on non-OSX hardware .
No matter what you do , there is ALWAYS something not working right.As soon as I bothered to educate myself a little about OS X on Mac hardware ( The trackpad pre-right click/gestures sucked ass : ) I just bit the bullet and bought one.It was n't cheap , but its been a good machine so far my only complaint is the cooling ( lack of ) and heat it generates .
Other than that its nicer than the Dell I ran OS X on , and cost less ( a year or so down the road ) .Running a hackint0sh is fine if you 're trying not to spend any money .
If you 're going to buy something to do it , just buy a damn machine and do it legit , its a lot less of a bother.The irony of it though is that I 'm posting this on a MBP , using Chrome running on Windows 7 .
What can I say , I had an itch to game a little : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Preface: I've become a fanboy, sorry.I did.
I ran OS X on a Dell for a while, but you know what?
I really didn't want to deal with all the little pain in the ass things that happen when you run OS X on non-OSX hardware.
No matter what you do, there is ALWAYS something not working right.As soon as I bothered to educate myself a little about OS X on Mac hardware (The trackpad pre-right click/gestures sucked ass :) I just bit the bullet and bought one.It wasn't cheap, but its been a good machine so far my only complaint is the cooling (lack of) and heat it generates.
Other than that its nicer than the Dell I ran OS X on, and cost less (a year or so down the road).Running a hackint0sh is fine if you're trying not to spend any money.
If you're going to buy something to do it, just buy a damn machine and do it legit, its a lot less of a bother.The irony of it though is that I'm posting this on a MBP, using Chrome running on Windows 7.
What can I say, I had an itch to game a little :)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30711138</id>
	<title>Re:Why is this News???  #editorfail</title>
	<author>LostCluster</author>
	<datestamp>1263045120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We've seen the knockdown blow... but this is proof that they are not answering the bell anymore and that means they're out.</p><p>If there's any consumers left thinking their machines still work, get out. Next MacOS security hole to be announced will be unpatched on these Hackintoshes, and they'll be unsafe to put on the Internet as a result.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We 've seen the knockdown blow... but this is proof that they are not answering the bell anymore and that means they 're out.If there 's any consumers left thinking their machines still work , get out .
Next MacOS security hole to be announced will be unpatched on these Hackintoshes , and they 'll be unsafe to put on the Internet as a result .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We've seen the knockdown blow... but this is proof that they are not answering the bell anymore and that means they're out.If there's any consumers left thinking their machines still work, get out.
Next MacOS security hole to be announced will be unpatched on these Hackintoshes, and they'll be unsafe to put on the Internet as a result.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710348</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710868</id>
	<title>Re:Why is this News???  #editorfail</title>
	<author>darrenkopp</author>
	<datestamp>1263042960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>thanks for the hashtag

#slashdotisnottwitter</htmltext>
<tokenext>thanks for the hashtag # slashdotisnottwitter</tokentext>
<sentencetext>thanks for the hashtag

#slashdotisnottwitter</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710348</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710522</id>
	<title>Should really pay attention to the news...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263040140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Apple was well into their lawsuits against Pystar in October. Why would you purchase a product that from a company that was getting them sued, especially when most reporting at the time was that Pystar was probably going to lose?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Apple was well into their lawsuits against Pystar in October .
Why would you purchase a product that from a company that was getting them sued , especially when most reporting at the time was that Pystar was probably going to lose ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apple was well into their lawsuits against Pystar in October.
Why would you purchase a product that from a company that was getting them sued, especially when most reporting at the time was that Pystar was probably going to lose?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30712652</id>
	<title>Re:Live and learn</title>
	<author>dgatwood</author>
	<datestamp>1263060180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>...for a rouge movement...</p></div></blockquote><p>If your movements are rouge, you'd better get that checked.  It's probably just hemorrhoids, but it could be a sign of colon cancer....</p><p>Ba-dump bump.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>...for a rouge movement...If your movements are rouge , you 'd better get that checked .
It 's probably just hemorrhoids , but it could be a sign of colon cancer....Ba-dump bump .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...for a rouge movement...If your movements are rouge, you'd better get that checked.
It's probably just hemorrhoids, but it could be a sign of colon cancer....Ba-dump bump.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710732</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30712108</id>
	<title>Re:rouge movement</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263052860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>vee haf vays of making you vear ze cheek makeup!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>vee haf vays of making you vear ze cheek makeup !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>vee haf vays of making you vear ze cheek makeup!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710732</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710872</id>
	<title>Did you honestly expect anything else?</title>
	<author>halfdan the black</author>
	<datestamp>1263043020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Did you honestly expect Psystar would honor the 'promise' they made to you when the steal, and re-sell the hard work of the hackintosh community in order to allow you to steal the intellectual property of Apple?

The entire company was based on stealing the property of others hard work.

Now, what I would have liked to have seen, is Psystar would have worked to improve Linux using some good ideas from OSX. Lets face it, Linux is not perfect, it has sever shortcomings, thats why people pay money for OSX. OSX does several things right, like application deployment (everything packed in a single directory), why not incorporate some of these ideas into Linux? Well, that would require hard work, instead of stealing from others.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Did you honestly expect Psystar would honor the 'promise ' they made to you when the steal , and re-sell the hard work of the hackintosh community in order to allow you to steal the intellectual property of Apple ?
The entire company was based on stealing the property of others hard work .
Now , what I would have liked to have seen , is Psystar would have worked to improve Linux using some good ideas from OSX .
Lets face it , Linux is not perfect , it has sever shortcomings , thats why people pay money for OSX .
OSX does several things right , like application deployment ( everything packed in a single directory ) , why not incorporate some of these ideas into Linux ?
Well , that would require hard work , instead of stealing from others .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Did you honestly expect Psystar would honor the 'promise' they made to you when the steal, and re-sell the hard work of the hackintosh community in order to allow you to steal the intellectual property of Apple?
The entire company was based on stealing the property of others hard work.
Now, what I would have liked to have seen, is Psystar would have worked to improve Linux using some good ideas from OSX.
Lets face it, Linux is not perfect, it has sever shortcomings, thats why people pay money for OSX.
OSX does several things right, like application deployment (everything packed in a single directory), why not incorporate some of these ideas into Linux?
Well, that would require hard work, instead of stealing from others.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30713964</id>
	<title>Re:Live and learn</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263129840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>On the topic of nazis, let me be the grammar nazi to point out, apostrophe does in fact not mean "warning, an s is upcoming".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>On the topic of nazis , let me be the grammar nazi to point out , apostrophe does in fact not mean " warning , an s is upcoming " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On the topic of nazis, let me be the grammar nazi to point out, apostrophe does in fact not mean "warning, an s is upcoming".</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710732</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30717340</id>
	<title>Fools</title>
	<author>Renraku</author>
	<datestamp>1263120360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Alright, since 100\% of posts so far have been about flaming the guy or calling him retarded, I'm sure he already knows.  How about back to the original topic?  What should he do to get his software back?  There SHOULD be a law in place stating that if a product can no longer be 'activated' it must be 'unlocked' permanently and for free.  Yes, this includes hosting servers for games that no longer have master servers (including MMOs).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Alright , since 100 \ % of posts so far have been about flaming the guy or calling him retarded , I 'm sure he already knows .
How about back to the original topic ?
What should he do to get his software back ?
There SHOULD be a law in place stating that if a product can no longer be 'activated ' it must be 'unlocked ' permanently and for free .
Yes , this includes hosting servers for games that no longer have master servers ( including MMOs ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Alright, since 100\% of posts so far have been about flaming the guy or calling him retarded, I'm sure he already knows.
How about back to the original topic?
What should he do to get his software back?
There SHOULD be a law in place stating that if a product can no longer be 'activated' it must be 'unlocked' permanently and for free.
Yes, this includes hosting servers for games that no longer have master servers (including MMOs).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30712110</id>
	<title>Re:How could the outcome be good?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263052920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Bought something that deliberately violated another company's terms of service.  Anyone with their eyes open knew that Psystar was a gonner from the get go, even if they made nice stuff.  It's too bad to see them lose, but there was never really any hope for them.  Complaining about their loss seems silly, unless one was so naive that they stood a chance.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Bought something that deliberately violated another company 's terms of service .
Anyone with their eyes open knew that Psystar was a gonner from the get go , even if they made nice stuff .
It 's too bad to see them lose , but there was never really any hope for them .
Complaining about their loss seems silly , unless one was so naive that they stood a chance .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bought something that deliberately violated another company's terms of service.
Anyone with their eyes open knew that Psystar was a gonner from the get go, even if they made nice stuff.
It's too bad to see them lose, but there was never really any hope for them.
Complaining about their loss seems silly, unless one was so naive that they stood a chance.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710316</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30711270</id>
	<title>Rebel EFI is a collection of open-source tools</title>
	<author>Hamsterdan</author>
	<datestamp>1263046200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So just use one of them.<br><br>(hint: I'm typing this on a PC running OSX and never even touched rebelEFI)</htmltext>
<tokenext>So just use one of them .
( hint : I 'm typing this on a PC running OSX and never even touched rebelEFI )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So just use one of them.
(hint: I'm typing this on a PC running OSX and never even touched rebelEFI)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710370</id>
	<title>The irony is thick enough to choke you</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263038580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The whole idea that Psystar was using strong DRM to protect their code to strip the honor-system-level protections from OS X installs was mind-meltingly ironic in the first place. The fact that they're so quickly demonstrating why buying anything protected by strong DRM is a bad idea just adds salt to the dish.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The whole idea that Psystar was using strong DRM to protect their code to strip the honor-system-level protections from OS X installs was mind-meltingly ironic in the first place .
The fact that they 're so quickly demonstrating why buying anything protected by strong DRM is a bad idea just adds salt to the dish .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The whole idea that Psystar was using strong DRM to protect their code to strip the honor-system-level protections from OS X installs was mind-meltingly ironic in the first place.
The fact that they're so quickly demonstrating why buying anything protected by strong DRM is a bad idea just adds salt to the dish.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710516</id>
	<title>newsflash</title>
	<author>girlintraining</author>
	<datestamp>1263040080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>This just in:</i> Software that requires contacting a remote server doesn't work when the remote server suffers a total existance failure.<br>Up next: People die when they're killed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This just in : Software that requires contacting a remote server does n't work when the remote server suffers a total existance failure.Up next : People die when they 're killed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This just in: Software that requires contacting a remote server doesn't work when the remote server suffers a total existance failure.Up next: People die when they're killed.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30711768</id>
	<title>Re:Live and learn</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263050040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yep, you definitely gotta be wary of those makeup movements such as Rouge and Eye Liner. The Kohl movement is especially dangerous.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yep , you definitely got ta be wary of those makeup movements such as Rouge and Eye Liner .
The Kohl movement is especially dangerous .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yep, you definitely gotta be wary of those makeup movements such as Rouge and Eye Liner.
The Kohl movement is especially dangerous.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710732</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710642</id>
	<title>Interest and Property</title>
	<author>Mista2</author>
	<datestamp>1263041160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Psystar had no respect for Apples intellectual property, why do you think they had hany interest in supporting you? After they were killed by the courts, who did you think would keep their systems operating? The magic IT fairies?<br>Psystar were just ripping off other open EFI emulators anyway. Search around, there are plenty of legit free ones, not stolen copies like Psystar were shipping.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Psystar had no respect for Apples intellectual property , why do you think they had hany interest in supporting you ?
After they were killed by the courts , who did you think would keep their systems operating ?
The magic IT fairies ? Psystar were just ripping off other open EFI emulators anyway .
Search around , there are plenty of legit free ones , not stolen copies like Psystar were shipping .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Psystar had no respect for Apples intellectual property, why do you think they had hany interest in supporting you?
After they were killed by the courts, who did you think would keep their systems operating?
The magic IT fairies?Psystar were just ripping off other open EFI emulators anyway.
Search around, there are plenty of legit free ones, not stolen copies like Psystar were shipping.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30711050</id>
	<title>Re:Good for you</title>
	<author>Evil Shabazz</author>
	<datestamp>1263044400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yeah, I'm sure there's a reason the guy submitted this anonymously - he didn't want the world being able to associate even a user name with an action so monumentally stupid.  I wonder if he got pissed off when that $20 copy of Windows he bought during his last visit to Shanghai didn't activate when he got home, either.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , I 'm sure there 's a reason the guy submitted this anonymously - he did n't want the world being able to associate even a user name with an action so monumentally stupid .
I wonder if he got pissed off when that $ 20 copy of Windows he bought during his last visit to Shanghai did n't activate when he got home , either .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, I'm sure there's a reason the guy submitted this anonymously - he didn't want the world being able to associate even a user name with an action so monumentally stupid.
I wonder if he got pissed off when that $20 copy of Windows he bought during his last visit to Shanghai didn't activate when he got home, either.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710328</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30715668</id>
	<title>Haha...no really you did what?...hahahahahahaha...</title>
	<author>CountBrass</author>
	<datestamp>1263150840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>...AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

"I bought some kit from some guys who were ripping off some other FOSS guys and now they've ripped me off".

Lie down with dogs and you'll get up with fleas.</htmltext>
<tokenext>...AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !
" I bought some kit from some guys who were ripping off some other FOSS guys and now they 've ripped me off " .
Lie down with dogs and you 'll get up with fleas .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
"I bought some kit from some guys who were ripping off some other FOSS guys and now they've ripped me off".
Lie down with dogs and you'll get up with fleas.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710816</id>
	<title>Re:Good for you</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263042540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's plain lucky for the rest of us that you haven't found religion boyo; you're the type of guy who'd be a real drag - always telling us about how your skydaddy is gonna save you and how we are gonna burn in hell.</p><p>if all you can believe in is a company that punts out 2nd rate computers and phones that play music, then maybe that's best - that's all i'm saying.</p><p>if you do wake up one day then have a look around at world around you. there are better and bigger causes. think really different.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's plain lucky for the rest of us that you have n't found religion boyo ; you 're the type of guy who 'd be a real drag - always telling us about how your skydaddy is gon na save you and how we are gon na burn in hell.if all you can believe in is a company that punts out 2nd rate computers and phones that play music , then maybe that 's best - that 's all i 'm saying.if you do wake up one day then have a look around at world around you .
there are better and bigger causes .
think really different .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's plain lucky for the rest of us that you haven't found religion boyo; you're the type of guy who'd be a real drag - always telling us about how your skydaddy is gonna save you and how we are gonna burn in hell.if all you can believe in is a company that punts out 2nd rate computers and phones that play music, then maybe that's best - that's all i'm saying.if you do wake up one day then have a look around at world around you.
there are better and bigger causes.
think really different.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710560</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30711616</id>
	<title>Get Real</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263048900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Let's see, buy an unauthorized clone and expect the system to continue working.  What's wrong with that logic?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Let 's see , buy an unauthorized clone and expect the system to continue working .
What 's wrong with that logic ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let's see, buy an unauthorized clone and expect the system to continue working.
What's wrong with that logic?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710786</id>
	<title>Re:One moment please.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263042360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ninjas don't scare me because I am a pirate.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ninjas do n't scare me because I am a pirate .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ninjas don't scare me because I am a pirate.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710292</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30712154</id>
	<title>LOL!!!</title>
	<author>rudy\_wayne</author>
	<datestamp>1263053460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You bought software containing DRM (ie, requries "activation").  You deserve to be screwed.</p><p>Seriously.  Activation means you don't really own it.  And if you don't own it, you can't control it.  And if you can't control it then it *WILL* be take away from you eventually.</p><p>You would think people would have figured this out by now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You bought software containing DRM ( ie , requries " activation " ) .
You deserve to be screwed.Seriously .
Activation means you do n't really own it .
And if you do n't own it , you ca n't control it .
And if you ca n't control it then it * WILL * be take away from you eventually.You would think people would have figured this out by now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You bought software containing DRM (ie, requries "activation").
You deserve to be screwed.Seriously.
Activation means you don't really own it.
And if you don't own it, you can't control it.
And if you can't control it then it *WILL* be take away from you eventually.You would think people would have figured this out by now.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30711264</id>
	<title>Re:newsflash</title>
	<author>Alien Being</author>
	<datestamp>1263046140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If only they would stay dead.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If only they would stay dead .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If only they would stay dead.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710516</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710732</id>
	<title>Re:Live and learn</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263041940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Strangely, they may have accomplished the first two. The allies at least realized that it was their tough provisions in Versailles that led to it being possibility for a rouge movement like the Nazi's to take power, leading to their friendlier approach after WWII to develop [West] Germany rather than punish it. So the Nazi's did help turn the economy around and make Germany a European power again, if only by their defeat.
This might even be relavant in this situation. This crusade on Apple may not have yielded anything productive in and of itself since Apple was in its [current] legal rights to protect their IP, but if Apple ever does become more popular in a given market and faces anti-trust litigation, this incident could be cited as evidence of Apple's unwillingness to allow any competition against it's platform.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Strangely , they may have accomplished the first two .
The allies at least realized that it was their tough provisions in Versailles that led to it being possibility for a rouge movement like the Nazi 's to take power , leading to their friendlier approach after WWII to develop [ West ] Germany rather than punish it .
So the Nazi 's did help turn the economy around and make Germany a European power again , if only by their defeat .
This might even be relavant in this situation .
This crusade on Apple may not have yielded anything productive in and of itself since Apple was in its [ current ] legal rights to protect their IP , but if Apple ever does become more popular in a given market and faces anti-trust litigation , this incident could be cited as evidence of Apple 's unwillingness to allow any competition against it 's platform .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Strangely, they may have accomplished the first two.
The allies at least realized that it was their tough provisions in Versailles that led to it being possibility for a rouge movement like the Nazi's to take power, leading to their friendlier approach after WWII to develop [West] Germany rather than punish it.
So the Nazi's did help turn the economy around and make Germany a European power again, if only by their defeat.
This might even be relavant in this situation.
This crusade on Apple may not have yielded anything productive in and of itself since Apple was in its [current] legal rights to protect their IP, but if Apple ever does become more popular in a given market and faces anti-trust litigation, this incident could be cited as evidence of Apple's unwillingness to allow any competition against it's platform.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710308</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710496</id>
	<title>Re:Live and learn</title>
	<author>Hognoxious</author>
	<datestamp>1263039960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>and ultimately defeat the countries that put them in that situation at the Treaty of Versailles.</p></div></blockquote><p>The country that defeated them[1] was not a signatory to the Versailles treaty, so technically they achieved that aim.</p><p>[1] Hint: aims achieve YOU!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>and ultimately defeat the countries that put them in that situation at the Treaty of Versailles.The country that defeated them [ 1 ] was not a signatory to the Versailles treaty , so technically they achieved that aim .
[ 1 ] Hint : aims achieve YOU !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and ultimately defeat the countries that put them in that situation at the Treaty of Versailles.The country that defeated them[1] was not a signatory to the Versailles treaty, so technically they achieved that aim.
[1] Hint: aims achieve YOU!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710308</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30712172</id>
	<title>Re:Good for you</title>
	<author>drsmithy</author>
	<datestamp>1263053640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <i>It seems you needed a lesson in respect of other's hard work. Now you've learned the hard way that it doesn't pay to try and rip off someone.</i>
</p><p>How do you feel about region free DVD players?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It seems you needed a lesson in respect of other 's hard work .
Now you 've learned the hard way that it does n't pay to try and rip off someone .
How do you feel about region free DVD players ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext> It seems you needed a lesson in respect of other's hard work.
Now you've learned the hard way that it doesn't pay to try and rip off someone.
How do you feel about region free DVD players?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710328</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710332</id>
	<title>Please tell me you're kidding...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263038220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ok, you knew perfectly well where this was headed. You knew they lost the case against Apple. You should write off your "purchase" as a donation.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ok , you knew perfectly well where this was headed .
You knew they lost the case against Apple .
You should write off your " purchase " as a donation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ok, you knew perfectly well where this was headed.
You knew they lost the case against Apple.
You should write off your "purchase" as a donation.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30711278</id>
	<title>You don't need Rebel EFI</title>
	<author>MrCrassic</author>
	<datestamp>1263046260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><b>Step 1.</b> Go to InsanelyMac and find the links for the Chamelion (sp?) boot loader. This will do practically the same thing, from what I've been told, and it worked extremely well for me when I used OS X on my Dell (took it off b/c I wanted real Office and some other Windows-preferred applications, but didn't want it in a VM).</p><p><b>Step 2</b> While you're at InsanelyMac, look for a tutorial on how to install OS X on your hardware. If there are none (which shouldn't be the case if the computer's popular somewhat), there are default methods to follow, which can help you give back by making one!</p><p><b>Step 3.</b> Install OS X, hope that nothing breaks and enjoy!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Step 1 .
Go to InsanelyMac and find the links for the Chamelion ( sp ?
) boot loader .
This will do practically the same thing , from what I 've been told , and it worked extremely well for me when I used OS X on my Dell ( took it off b/c I wanted real Office and some other Windows-preferred applications , but did n't want it in a VM ) .Step 2 While you 're at InsanelyMac , look for a tutorial on how to install OS X on your hardware .
If there are none ( which should n't be the case if the computer 's popular somewhat ) , there are default methods to follow , which can help you give back by making one ! Step 3 .
Install OS X , hope that nothing breaks and enjoy !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Step 1.
Go to InsanelyMac and find the links for the Chamelion (sp?
) boot loader.
This will do practically the same thing, from what I've been told, and it worked extremely well for me when I used OS X on my Dell (took it off b/c I wanted real Office and some other Windows-preferred applications, but didn't want it in a VM).Step 2 While you're at InsanelyMac, look for a tutorial on how to install OS X on your hardware.
If there are none (which shouldn't be the case if the computer's popular somewhat), there are default methods to follow, which can help you give back by making one!Step 3.
Install OS X, hope that nothing breaks and enjoy!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30714876</id>
	<title>Re:One moment please.</title>
	<author>MBaldelli</author>
	<datestamp>1263143520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Ninjas don't scare me because I am a pirate.</p></div><p>That's all right.  Pirates don't scare me because I'm a Ninja.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ninjas do n't scare me because I am a pirate.That 's all right .
Pirates do n't scare me because I 'm a Ninja .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ninjas don't scare me because I am a pirate.That's all right.
Pirates don't scare me because I'm a Ninja.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30710786</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30713992</id>
	<title>Pystar still selling software</title>
	<author>AG the other</author>
	<datestamp>1263130500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.psystar.com/rebel\_efi" title="psystar.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.psystar.com/rebel\_efi</a> [psystar.com]</p><p>That's sort of the ultimate rip off.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.psystar.com/rebel \ _efi [ psystar.com ] That 's sort of the ultimate rip off .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.psystar.com/rebel\_efi [psystar.com]That's sort of the ultimate rip off.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_09_223205.30719236</id>
	<title>i\_spit\_on\_the\_brain\_slaves</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263136860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>i have rebel.. will not authenticate,but it was worth it,my self made desktop is working top notch, i will never buy a true mac desktop no matter what you stupid apple fanboys say or your leader tells you to say, i hate the mac cult since its changing mac into just another greed driven company..<br>look at how they blocked devices from using itunes<br>how they blocked google voice<br>how they take over companies so they can control every part of the process<br>this is why i am happy to feel some satisfaction in doing my little part to screw them over the way they did to me when they blocked my iphone from using voip over 3g, and when they didnt provide 64bit drives for my mac unibody , actually the whole unibody sherade is a shame<br>then to top it they lie all the time , the new battery is only slightly better less than an hour , but they wan to suck you dry , after over paying for warranty and macbook , now you can only buy the battery from mac<br>mac; the biggest thieves are them, so they cant tell any one what to do<br>i love psystar , and i will buy more from them, if not there is another company with similar offer(http://www.expresshd.com/) that no one seem to be bitching about ?<br>wonder why ?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>i have rebel.. will not authenticate,but it was worth it,my self made desktop is working top notch , i will never buy a true mac desktop no matter what you stupid apple fanboys say or your leader tells you to say , i hate the mac cult since its changing mac into just another greed driven company..look at how they blocked devices from using ituneshow they blocked google voicehow they take over companies so they can control every part of the processthis is why i am happy to feel some satisfaction in doing my little part to screw them over the way they did to me when they blocked my iphone from using voip over 3g , and when they didnt provide 64bit drives for my mac unibody , actually the whole unibody sherade is a shamethen to top it they lie all the time , the new battery is only slightly better less than an hour , but they wan to suck you dry , after over paying for warranty and macbook , now you can only buy the battery from macmac ; the biggest thieves are them , so they cant tell any one what to doi love psystar , and i will buy more from them , if not there is another company with similar offer ( http : //www.expresshd.com/ ) that no one seem to be bitching about ? wonder why ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i have rebel.. will not authenticate,but it was worth it,my self made desktop is working top notch, i will never buy a true mac desktop no matter what you stupid apple fanboys say or your leader tells you to say, i hate the mac cult since its changing mac into just another greed driven company..look at how they blocked devices from using ituneshow they blocked google voicehow they take over companies so they can control every part of the processthis is why i am happy to feel some satisfaction in doing my little part to screw them over the way they did to me when they blocked my iphone from using voip over 3g, and when they didnt provide 64bit drives for my mac unibody , actually the whole unibody sherade is a shamethen to top it they lie all the time , the new battery is only slightly better less than an hour , but they wan to suck you dry , after over paying for warranty and macbook , now you can only buy the battery from macmac; the biggest thieves are them, so they cant tell any one what to doi love psystar , and i will buy more from them, if not there is another company with similar offer(http://www.expresshd.com/) that no one seem to be bitching about ?wonder why ?</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Hard to tell</title>
	<author>Threni</author>
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	<htmltext><p>Ah - a small company in America which sells computers.  Bigtime.  I stand by my original, sarcastic comments.  When reporting, on an internationally targeted website, on a insignificant company which only operates in one region, it's probably worth spending half a sentence on a short summary of who they are any why anyone should care.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ah - a small company in America which sells computers .
Bigtime. I stand by my original , sarcastic comments .
When reporting , on an internationally targeted website , on a insignificant company which only operates in one region , it 's probably worth spending half a sentence on a short summary of who they are any why anyone should care .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ah - a small company in America which sells computers.
Bigtime.  I stand by my original, sarcastic comments.
When reporting, on an internationally targeted website, on a insignificant company which only operates in one region, it's probably worth spending half a sentence on a short summary of who they are any why anyone should care.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Great idea but shouldn't have bought from them</title>
	<author>thetoadwarrior</author>
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	<htmltext>I like what Psystar was doing but it was always a bad idea to buy from them.
<br> <br>
Apple is pretty controlling, in my opinion, there's no way you can believe that they would have let Psystar do anything with Apple's software that they don't like.
<br> <br>
Consider it a lesson learned and search for hackintosh and learn how to sort out Mac OS on the PC yourself or take the loss and buy a proper Mac or put Linux/Windows on the machine you have.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I like what Psystar was doing but it was always a bad idea to buy from them .
Apple is pretty controlling , in my opinion , there 's no way you can believe that they would have let Psystar do anything with Apple 's software that they do n't like .
Consider it a lesson learned and search for hackintosh and learn how to sort out Mac OS on the PC yourself or take the loss and buy a proper Mac or put Linux/Windows on the machine you have .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I like what Psystar was doing but it was always a bad idea to buy from them.
Apple is pretty controlling, in my opinion, there's no way you can believe that they would have let Psystar do anything with Apple's software that they don't like.
Consider it a lesson learned and search for hackintosh and learn how to sort out Mac OS on the PC yourself or take the loss and buy a proper Mac or put Linux/Windows on the machine you have.</sentencetext>
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