<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_01_08_165231</id>
	<title>MagicJack Femtocell Gates Cell Traffic to VoIP</title>
	<author>CmdrTaco</author>
	<datestamp>1262973240000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>olsmeister writes <i>"MagicJack is demonstrating a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Femtocell">femtocell</a> device at CES that will <a href="http://www.pcworld.com/article/186308/magicjack\_harnesses\_femtocell\_for\_voip.html">allow any GSM phone</a> (locked or unlocked) to place free phone calls over the internet using VOIP.  The device costs $40 and includes free service for 1 year.  It supposedly will cover a 3,000 sq ft house."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>olsmeister writes " MagicJack is demonstrating a femtocell device at CES that will allow any GSM phone ( locked or unlocked ) to place free phone calls over the internet using VOIP .
The device costs $ 40 and includes free service for 1 year .
It supposedly will cover a 3,000 sq ft house .
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<sentencetext>olsmeister writes "MagicJack is demonstrating a femtocell device at CES that will allow any GSM phone (locked or unlocked) to place free phone calls over the internet using VOIP.
The device costs $40 and includes free service for 1 year.
It supposedly will cover a 3,000 sq ft house.
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</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30698508</id>
	<title>Re:Requires PC</title>
	<author>Unequivocal</author>
	<datestamp>1262982300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Besides the ad's, using a PC means they can reduce the complexity/cost of the femotcell device. Making it dumber and offloading work to the PC means fewer components and cheaper to fab.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Besides the ad 's , using a PC means they can reduce the complexity/cost of the femotcell device .
Making it dumber and offloading work to the PC means fewer components and cheaper to fab .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Besides the ad's, using a PC means they can reduce the complexity/cost of the femotcell device.
Making it dumber and offloading work to the PC means fewer components and cheaper to fab.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697444</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30698682</id>
	<title>Re:Requires PC</title>
	<author>rantingkitten</author>
	<datestamp>1262983020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They can, but this is for residential service, where most people don't have ethernet jacks in the walls, but rather, just have a router somewhere and their computers are typically nowhere near it thanks to wireless.  So how is the average yob going to get his phone connected to the router on the other side of the house?  Now he doesn't need to worry about it, since he can just plug it into his computer, which is probably on his desk anyway.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They can , but this is for residential service , where most people do n't have ethernet jacks in the walls , but rather , just have a router somewhere and their computers are typically nowhere near it thanks to wireless .
So how is the average yob going to get his phone connected to the router on the other side of the house ?
Now he does n't need to worry about it , since he can just plug it into his computer , which is probably on his desk anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They can, but this is for residential service, where most people don't have ethernet jacks in the walls, but rather, just have a router somewhere and their computers are typically nowhere near it thanks to wireless.
So how is the average yob going to get his phone connected to the router on the other side of the house?
Now he doesn't need to worry about it, since he can just plug it into his computer, which is probably on his desk anyway.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697444</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697518</id>
	<title>Re:Is this legal?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262978040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not to mention that UMTS phones will prefer the UMTS signal even if a GSM signal is available. Also, it will stop working once GSM goes away and is fully replaced by UMTS (which does authenticate the network), if that does ever happen.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not to mention that UMTS phones will prefer the UMTS signal even if a GSM signal is available .
Also , it will stop working once GSM goes away and is fully replaced by UMTS ( which does authenticate the network ) , if that does ever happen .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not to mention that UMTS phones will prefer the UMTS signal even if a GSM signal is available.
Also, it will stop working once GSM goes away and is fully replaced by UMTS (which does authenticate the network), if that does ever happen.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697304</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30702716</id>
	<title>Re:The title is why I dislike English</title>
	<author>nacturation</author>
	<datestamp>1262958000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I hate to break it to you, but "gating" can also be a noun.  Now pick up a copy of the Dragon book and have fun!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I hate to break it to you , but " gating " can also be a noun .
Now pick up a copy of the Dragon book and have fun !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hate to break it to you, but "gating" can also be a noun.
Now pick up a copy of the Dragon book and have fun!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30699050</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697236</id>
	<title>HOLY SHITBALLS!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262976900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So.... what does this mean?</p><p>~ Clueless</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So.... what does this mean ? ~ Clueless</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So.... what does this mean?~ Clueless</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30700998</id>
	<title>Re:Why femto?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262949660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, a tower doesn't cover an area, it covers a *volume*.  Based on your own numbers, that's a relative size of:</p><p>Standard Cell Tower: 4.188 cu. mi.<br>'Femto' Cell Device: 532598 cu. ft. or<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.000003557 cu. mi. or 3.557*10^-6</p><p>As for why 'femto'?  Because it's small, and 'femto' sounds more high-tech than 'micro' or 'milli'.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , a tower does n't cover an area , it covers a * volume * .
Based on your own numbers , that 's a relative size of : Standard Cell Tower : 4.188 cu .
mi.'Femto ' Cell Device : 532598 cu .
ft. or .000003557 cu .
mi. or 3.557 * 10 ^ -6As for why 'femto ' ?
Because it 's small , and 'femto ' sounds more high-tech than 'micro ' or 'milli' .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, a tower doesn't cover an area, it covers a *volume*.
Based on your own numbers, that's a relative size of:Standard Cell Tower: 4.188 cu.
mi.'Femto' Cell Device: 532598 cu.
ft. or .000003557 cu.
mi. or 3.557*10^-6As for why 'femto'?
Because it's small, and 'femto' sounds more high-tech than 'micro' or 'milli'.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697670</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30701876</id>
	<title>Re:Does MagicJack Work?</title>
	<author>tinkerghost</author>
	<datestamp>1262953740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>From what I understand, it's pretty standard SIP calling. I'm considering picking it up to use to route outgoing calls through (Asterisk Server). There was talk about offering a SIP only plan without the MJ itself, but that's still a no-show.</htmltext>
<tokenext>From what I understand , it 's pretty standard SIP calling .
I 'm considering picking it up to use to route outgoing calls through ( Asterisk Server ) .
There was talk about offering a SIP only plan without the MJ itself , but that 's still a no-show .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From what I understand, it's pretty standard SIP calling.
I'm considering picking it up to use to route outgoing calls through (Asterisk Server).
There was talk about offering a SIP only plan without the MJ itself, but that's still a no-show.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697320</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697702</id>
	<title>Re:You newbs, MJ is not a scam...</title>
	<author>SoundGuyNoise</author>
	<datestamp>1262978700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've been using it as a business line and it's been great to me so far. The unanswered calls go to voice mail, it's never busy, and the voice mail is automatically emailed to me as an attachment.<br> <br>

The desktop client is a little clunky, it's just a dialer. Something like visual voicemail would be sweet. It's a little slow to start up like it's downloading updates or something. I'd love be able to upload an audio file as my outgoing message (any suggestions anyone?)<br> <br>

I had some echos the first week I was using it, but soon after it was cleared up. The call quality has been excellent since.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been using it as a business line and it 's been great to me so far .
The unanswered calls go to voice mail , it 's never busy , and the voice mail is automatically emailed to me as an attachment .
The desktop client is a little clunky , it 's just a dialer .
Something like visual voicemail would be sweet .
It 's a little slow to start up like it 's downloading updates or something .
I 'd love be able to upload an audio file as my outgoing message ( any suggestions anyone ?
) I had some echos the first week I was using it , but soon after it was cleared up .
The call quality has been excellent since .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been using it as a business line and it's been great to me so far.
The unanswered calls go to voice mail, it's never busy, and the voice mail is automatically emailed to me as an attachment.
The desktop client is a little clunky, it's just a dialer.
Something like visual voicemail would be sweet.
It's a little slow to start up like it's downloading updates or something.
I'd love be able to upload an audio file as my outgoing message (any suggestions anyone?
) 

I had some echos the first week I was using it, but soon after it was cleared up.
The call quality has been excellent since.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697436</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697628</id>
	<title>Re:Requires PC</title>
	<author>g8oz</author>
	<datestamp>1262978460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That is exactly what is holding me back. How hard would this be?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That is exactly what is holding me back .
How hard would this be ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That is exactly what is holding me back.
How hard would this be?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697444</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697320</id>
	<title>Does MagicJack Work?</title>
	<author>chill</author>
	<datestamp>1262977260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Does the MJ actually work worth a darn?  How is call quality?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does the MJ actually work worth a darn ?
How is call quality ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does the MJ actually work worth a darn?
How is call quality?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30700368</id>
	<title>Re:Requiem for UMA</title>
	<author>TooMuchToDo</author>
	<datestamp>1262946540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have a Blackberry Curve from T-Mobile with UMA, and let me tell you, it's AWESOME. I visited Japan a couple months back for two weeks. As long as I was near wifi, I got free calls back to the US. As long as you have Wifi anywhere, you don't even need to be in a T-Mobile service area. It's a great feature, and wish the Nexus One would have it, as I'm moving to that.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a Blackberry Curve from T-Mobile with UMA , and let me tell you , it 's AWESOME .
I visited Japan a couple months back for two weeks .
As long as I was near wifi , I got free calls back to the US .
As long as you have Wifi anywhere , you do n't even need to be in a T-Mobile service area .
It 's a great feature , and wish the Nexus One would have it , as I 'm moving to that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a Blackberry Curve from T-Mobile with UMA, and let me tell you, it's AWESOME.
I visited Japan a couple months back for two weeks.
As long as I was near wifi, I got free calls back to the US.
As long as you have Wifi anywhere, you don't even need to be in a T-Mobile service area.
It's a great feature, and wish the Nexus One would have it, as I'm moving to that.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697486</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30698336</id>
	<title>Re:You newbs, MJ is not a scam...</title>
	<author>Cthefuture</author>
	<datestamp>1262981400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The <em>real</em> problem with MagicJack is that their business model is not sustainable.  ie. it's too cheap for what they offer.  Currently they are burning money like crazy.</p><p>Eventually something is going to change.  They're either going to have to change the pricing, seriously degrade their service (eg. too large of a customer base), or close their doors.  The turnover of VOIP providers is insane, most go out of business.  Establishing a phone number and then losing it or having to find a new provider because the company went out of business is a pain in the ass.</p><p>Time will tell but so far no VOIP provider has survived that had a model like MagicJack's (and there have been too many to count).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The real problem with MagicJack is that their business model is not sustainable .
ie. it 's too cheap for what they offer .
Currently they are burning money like crazy.Eventually something is going to change .
They 're either going to have to change the pricing , seriously degrade their service ( eg .
too large of a customer base ) , or close their doors .
The turnover of VOIP providers is insane , most go out of business .
Establishing a phone number and then losing it or having to find a new provider because the company went out of business is a pain in the ass.Time will tell but so far no VOIP provider has survived that had a model like MagicJack 's ( and there have been too many to count ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The real problem with MagicJack is that their business model is not sustainable.
ie. it's too cheap for what they offer.
Currently they are burning money like crazy.Eventually something is going to change.
They're either going to have to change the pricing, seriously degrade their service (eg.
too large of a customer base), or close their doors.
The turnover of VOIP providers is insane, most go out of business.
Establishing a phone number and then losing it or having to find a new provider because the company went out of business is a pain in the ass.Time will tell but so far no VOIP provider has survived that had a model like MagicJack's (and there have been too many to count).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697436</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30701520</id>
	<title>Re:Any asterisk compatable solutions?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262952060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I would love this combination on a portable device... imagine being able to route all incoming/outgoing calls in a 3,000 sq ft area around you no matter where you are.  In a movie? incoming calls get a busy signal.</p><p>When did these things become legal?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would love this combination on a portable device... imagine being able to route all incoming/outgoing calls in a 3,000 sq ft area around you no matter where you are .
In a movie ?
incoming calls get a busy signal.When did these things become legal ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would love this combination on a portable device... imagine being able to route all incoming/outgoing calls in a 3,000 sq ft area around you no matter where you are.
In a movie?
incoming calls get a busy signal.When did these things become legal?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697286</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697744</id>
	<title>Re:Is this legal?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262978880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just make your house into a faraday cage<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just make your house into a faraday cage ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just make your house into a faraday cage ;)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697304</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30702470</id>
	<title>Re:Too many possible holes</title>
	<author>Ichijo</author>
	<datestamp>1262956440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>this solution would eliminate any encryption meaning your calls are able to be intercepted with ease</p></div></blockquote><p>Only if it's easy to hack into your broadband connection.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>this solution would eliminate any encryption meaning your calls are able to be intercepted with easeOnly if it 's easy to hack into your broadband connection .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>this solution would eliminate any encryption meaning your calls are able to be intercepted with easeOnly if it's easy to hack into your broadband connection.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697466</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697944</id>
	<title>Re:Requires PC</title>
	<author>sunderland56</author>
	<datestamp>1262979720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why doesn't someone take some open-source router software (tomato, openwrt, etc), and allow the use of the MagicJack hardware on a wifi router's USB port?
<br> <br>
No need for a computer on 24/7 - plus you could automatically prioritize the VOIP traffic from the USB port to guarantee call quality.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why does n't someone take some open-source router software ( tomato , openwrt , etc ) , and allow the use of the MagicJack hardware on a wifi router 's USB port ?
No need for a computer on 24/7 - plus you could automatically prioritize the VOIP traffic from the USB port to guarantee call quality .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why doesn't someone take some open-source router software (tomato, openwrt, etc), and allow the use of the MagicJack hardware on a wifi router's USB port?
No need for a computer on 24/7 - plus you could automatically prioritize the VOIP traffic from the USB port to guarantee call quality.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697444</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697512</id>
	<title>Re:You newbs, MJ is not a scam...</title>
	<author>cptdondo</author>
	<datestamp>1262978040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't get it....</p><p>My T-Mobile contract gives me virtually unlimited calling in the US, and with my VOIP carrier I can call anywhere in the world for 0.01 Euro/min.</p><p>I've spent hours on the phone to Europe and Japan and have yet to recharge my original 10 Euro purchase.</p><p>And I'm not thethered to the house, I don't have another gadget to deal with, and it works anywhere I get a cell signal.</p><p>What problem is this gadget trying to solve?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't get it....My T-Mobile contract gives me virtually unlimited calling in the US , and with my VOIP carrier I can call anywhere in the world for 0.01 Euro/min.I 've spent hours on the phone to Europe and Japan and have yet to recharge my original 10 Euro purchase.And I 'm not thethered to the house , I do n't have another gadget to deal with , and it works anywhere I get a cell signal.What problem is this gadget trying to solve ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't get it....My T-Mobile contract gives me virtually unlimited calling in the US, and with my VOIP carrier I can call anywhere in the world for 0.01 Euro/min.I've spent hours on the phone to Europe and Japan and have yet to recharge my original 10 Euro purchase.And I'm not thethered to the house, I don't have another gadget to deal with, and it works anywhere I get a cell signal.What problem is this gadget trying to solve?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697436</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30699938</id>
	<title>Let's see what an expert has to say</title>
	<author>azmodean+1</author>
	<datestamp>1262944740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>For a response from someone who actually knows something about the subject, see <a href="http://laforge.gnumonks.org/weblog/2010/01/08/#20100108-magicjack-femtocell" title="gnumonks.org" rel="nofollow">Harold Welte's blog</a> [gnumonks.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>For a response from someone who actually knows something about the subject , see Harold Welte 's blog [ gnumonks.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For a response from someone who actually knows something about the subject, see Harold Welte's blog [gnumonks.org]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30703486</id>
	<title>Re:Requires PC</title>
	<author>naturaverl</author>
	<datestamp>1262962740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Why can't they make a standalone device!?</p></div><p>What, you don't have an old laptop hooked up in the closet?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why ca n't they make a standalone device !
? What , you do n't have an old laptop hooked up in the closet ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why can't they make a standalone device!
?What, you don't have an old laptop hooked up in the closet?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697444</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30703000</id>
	<title>Re:Does MagicJack Work?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262959680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Mine works great. I'm on my second year. I have an old server hosting a site that is on all the time anyway. I installed MagicJack to run as a service on it - Windows Server 2003. I hooked up my old-fashioned-looking Restoration Hardware chrome telephone to it. It's pretty cool. Very inexpensive. I wish I had more people to call long distance. I'd call you, but you are a curmudgeon and would probably hang up on me.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:(</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Mine works great .
I 'm on my second year .
I have an old server hosting a site that is on all the time anyway .
I installed MagicJack to run as a service on it - Windows Server 2003 .
I hooked up my old-fashioned-looking Restoration Hardware chrome telephone to it .
It 's pretty cool .
Very inexpensive .
I wish I had more people to call long distance .
I 'd call you , but you are a curmudgeon and would probably hang up on me .
: (</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mine works great.
I'm on my second year.
I have an old server hosting a site that is on all the time anyway.
I installed MagicJack to run as a service on it - Windows Server 2003.
I hooked up my old-fashioned-looking Restoration Hardware chrome telephone to it.
It's pretty cool.
Very inexpensive.
I wish I had more people to call long distance.
I'd call you, but you are a curmudgeon and would probably hang up on me.
:(</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30698204</id>
	<title>Dandy</title>
	<author>JackSpratts</author>
	<datestamp>1262980920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>my cell doesn't work at my cabin, which has dsl (natch). this would be perfect.</htmltext>
<tokenext>my cell does n't work at my cabin , which has dsl ( natch ) .
this would be perfect .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>my cell doesn't work at my cabin, which has dsl (natch).
this would be perfect.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30699408</id>
	<title>Re:Does MagicJack Work?</title>
	<author>bussdriver</author>
	<datestamp>1262942700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes. I have been on it for 1 year. I have a TK6000 now as well with the intention of moving over to that over the next year.</p><p>MagicJack's software or device seems to have issues over long periods of time that require the device get unplugged (reboot) along with the software restarting or the quality becomes unusable.  This may be a mac issue.  It is basically a standard audio i/o device and therefore switching users causes the user-based app to lose the audio for the phone; but maintains a network connection anyway.  Nobody seems to be able to trigger the phone ringing with the device yet (that is, outside their software.) It works with asterisk.</p><p>I had good service for 6 months only. it recently got a little better but not enough for me to consider it usable in the longer term. Besides, I don't want a big tower running in the right user all the time just to keep my phone working. Tech support sucks.</p><p>TK6000 has a microcontroller. Some setup troubles; great tech support. Its easier to set QoS for it because its on a port while the MJ is a desktop app that uses a HUGE random port range you can't setup on the router. (it only uses 5060-5070 to init - I've monitored the traffic. Yes, you can use other SIP software on MJ. I've not tried TK6000's software in USB mode yet under windows; I probably won't ever.)</p><p>Oh, MJ works better on mac in a virtual machine minimal windows XP; you get caller ID then as well-- but you waste 500MB ram-- it STILL suffered from the device needing a 'reboot' after a day of running (with or without calls) or the sound did the same thing.</p><p>I would say the TK6000 is the better product so far. Due to their tech support, QoS, and standalone ability. End cost is the same for both. Downside is the TK requires I dial a 1+number+#  even when it is a local number; clearly their controller needs a start and end signal and their server isn't able to insert the local area code for you. TK openly uses Asterisk for the server; MJ might but there are no indications I've seen. Also I've had the TK drop connection (no dial tone) possibly due to the device not setting up new connections when they are broken by the ISP.  Long phone calls I've heard get dropped but I've not had a long one yet...  MJ on the otherhand starts stuttering after 30-40min of use; and for the last 6months, it stutters if the app has been open half a day (even with no calls) on mac or win.  So, right now, I hate the MJ because I've had to call people back every time while I reboot it so I can actually hear them! The TK sometimes never rings (if its a dropped connection) but works fine otherwise putting it in a DMZ seemed to help with that.</p><p>Voicemail is great with both- shows up as an email and the TK's asterisk emails include caller ID information in the email.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes .
I have been on it for 1 year .
I have a TK6000 now as well with the intention of moving over to that over the next year.MagicJack 's software or device seems to have issues over long periods of time that require the device get unplugged ( reboot ) along with the software restarting or the quality becomes unusable .
This may be a mac issue .
It is basically a standard audio i/o device and therefore switching users causes the user-based app to lose the audio for the phone ; but maintains a network connection anyway .
Nobody seems to be able to trigger the phone ringing with the device yet ( that is , outside their software .
) It works with asterisk.I had good service for 6 months only .
it recently got a little better but not enough for me to consider it usable in the longer term .
Besides , I do n't want a big tower running in the right user all the time just to keep my phone working .
Tech support sucks.TK6000 has a microcontroller .
Some setup troubles ; great tech support .
Its easier to set QoS for it because its on a port while the MJ is a desktop app that uses a HUGE random port range you ca n't setup on the router .
( it only uses 5060-5070 to init - I 've monitored the traffic .
Yes , you can use other SIP software on MJ .
I 've not tried TK6000 's software in USB mode yet under windows ; I probably wo n't ever .
) Oh , MJ works better on mac in a virtual machine minimal windows XP ; you get caller ID then as well-- but you waste 500MB ram-- it STILL suffered from the device needing a 'reboot ' after a day of running ( with or without calls ) or the sound did the same thing.I would say the TK6000 is the better product so far .
Due to their tech support , QoS , and standalone ability .
End cost is the same for both .
Downside is the TK requires I dial a 1 + number + # even when it is a local number ; clearly their controller needs a start and end signal and their server is n't able to insert the local area code for you .
TK openly uses Asterisk for the server ; MJ might but there are no indications I 've seen .
Also I 've had the TK drop connection ( no dial tone ) possibly due to the device not setting up new connections when they are broken by the ISP .
Long phone calls I 've heard get dropped but I 've not had a long one yet... MJ on the otherhand starts stuttering after 30-40min of use ; and for the last 6months , it stutters if the app has been open half a day ( even with no calls ) on mac or win .
So , right now , I hate the MJ because I 've had to call people back every time while I reboot it so I can actually hear them !
The TK sometimes never rings ( if its a dropped connection ) but works fine otherwise putting it in a DMZ seemed to help with that.Voicemail is great with both- shows up as an email and the TK 's asterisk emails include caller ID information in the email .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes.
I have been on it for 1 year.
I have a TK6000 now as well with the intention of moving over to that over the next year.MagicJack's software or device seems to have issues over long periods of time that require the device get unplugged (reboot) along with the software restarting or the quality becomes unusable.
This may be a mac issue.
It is basically a standard audio i/o device and therefore switching users causes the user-based app to lose the audio for the phone; but maintains a network connection anyway.
Nobody seems to be able to trigger the phone ringing with the device yet (that is, outside their software.
) It works with asterisk.I had good service for 6 months only.
it recently got a little better but not enough for me to consider it usable in the longer term.
Besides, I don't want a big tower running in the right user all the time just to keep my phone working.
Tech support sucks.TK6000 has a microcontroller.
Some setup troubles; great tech support.
Its easier to set QoS for it because its on a port while the MJ is a desktop app that uses a HUGE random port range you can't setup on the router.
(it only uses 5060-5070 to init - I've monitored the traffic.
Yes, you can use other SIP software on MJ.
I've not tried TK6000's software in USB mode yet under windows; I probably won't ever.
)Oh, MJ works better on mac in a virtual machine minimal windows XP; you get caller ID then as well-- but you waste 500MB ram-- it STILL suffered from the device needing a 'reboot' after a day of running (with or without calls) or the sound did the same thing.I would say the TK6000 is the better product so far.
Due to their tech support, QoS, and standalone ability.
End cost is the same for both.
Downside is the TK requires I dial a 1+number+#  even when it is a local number; clearly their controller needs a start and end signal and their server isn't able to insert the local area code for you.
TK openly uses Asterisk for the server; MJ might but there are no indications I've seen.
Also I've had the TK drop connection (no dial tone) possibly due to the device not setting up new connections when they are broken by the ISP.
Long phone calls I've heard get dropped but I've not had a long one yet...  MJ on the otherhand starts stuttering after 30-40min of use; and for the last 6months, it stutters if the app has been open half a day (even with no calls) on mac or win.
So, right now, I hate the MJ because I've had to call people back every time while I reboot it so I can actually hear them!
The TK sometimes never rings (if its a dropped connection) but works fine otherwise putting it in a DMZ seemed to help with that.Voicemail is great with both- shows up as an email and the TK's asterisk emails include caller ID information in the email.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697486</id>
	<title>Requiem for UMA</title>
	<author>JSBiff</author>
	<datestamp>1262977920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You know, T-Mobile, a few years back, introduced <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic\_Access\_Network" title="wikipedia.org">UMA (Unlicensed Mobile Access)</a> [wikipedia.org]  with some of their phones (which T-Mo has subsequently marketted under 3 different names, you know, to confuse their customers, I guess), but none of the other carriers picked up on it, and T-Mo pretty quickly abandoned it - I believe their network still supports it, and some/all of their Blackberries support it, but they pretty quickly stopped advertising it, none of the Android phones support it, and T-Mo has quietly gotten rid of every non-Blackberry phone that used to have the UMA feature.</p><p>It's really kind of a shame - UMA is a great idea: basically, any WiFi hotspot that you can connect to become a "cell tower" (well, it routes cell phone traffic over a tunnel on the Internet, to T-Mo's network, so it basically becomes VoIP). This Femtocell idea is something that some of the other carriers are sort of testing (I have some relatives on Sprint who got one because there is very poor reception at their house). But, I think UMA is a superior solution to these femtocells, because a) with UMA, you need a phone with UMA support, but you had to get a phone anyway, so adding UMA to phones would have been almost 'free' from the customer perspective, with the only other equipment needed being something you *probably* already have, and if you don't, you can get dirt cheap at Microcenter, Best Buy, Fry's, etc., and B) the femtocell will *only* work at your own location where you put it, whereas UMA would work with any Internet connection and most Wifi hotspots, which means that I could take advantage of it at other locations if they have WiFi (relatives or friends houses, school, work, shopping, etc) too.</p><p>Now, I think with the Android phones, you can now do some VoIP calling, but the advantage with UMA was that calls would seamlessly transfer between wifi and the cell network (if you left Wifi range, or entered Wifi range). It's really a damn shame that the cell phone industry didn't adopt UMA as a feature, because to me, it seems like a vastly superior approach than femtocells.</p><p>I suppose it's theoretically possible that UMA could rise from the ashes, but at this point, it seems kinda dead. More's the pity.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You know , T-Mobile , a few years back , introduced UMA ( Unlicensed Mobile Access ) [ wikipedia.org ] with some of their phones ( which T-Mo has subsequently marketted under 3 different names , you know , to confuse their customers , I guess ) , but none of the other carriers picked up on it , and T-Mo pretty quickly abandoned it - I believe their network still supports it , and some/all of their Blackberries support it , but they pretty quickly stopped advertising it , none of the Android phones support it , and T-Mo has quietly gotten rid of every non-Blackberry phone that used to have the UMA feature.It 's really kind of a shame - UMA is a great idea : basically , any WiFi hotspot that you can connect to become a " cell tower " ( well , it routes cell phone traffic over a tunnel on the Internet , to T-Mo 's network , so it basically becomes VoIP ) .
This Femtocell idea is something that some of the other carriers are sort of testing ( I have some relatives on Sprint who got one because there is very poor reception at their house ) .
But , I think UMA is a superior solution to these femtocells , because a ) with UMA , you need a phone with UMA support , but you had to get a phone anyway , so adding UMA to phones would have been almost 'free ' from the customer perspective , with the only other equipment needed being something you * probably * already have , and if you do n't , you can get dirt cheap at Microcenter , Best Buy , Fry 's , etc. , and B ) the femtocell will * only * work at your own location where you put it , whereas UMA would work with any Internet connection and most Wifi hotspots , which means that I could take advantage of it at other locations if they have WiFi ( relatives or friends houses , school , work , shopping , etc ) too.Now , I think with the Android phones , you can now do some VoIP calling , but the advantage with UMA was that calls would seamlessly transfer between wifi and the cell network ( if you left Wifi range , or entered Wifi range ) .
It 's really a damn shame that the cell phone industry did n't adopt UMA as a feature , because to me , it seems like a vastly superior approach than femtocells.I suppose it 's theoretically possible that UMA could rise from the ashes , but at this point , it seems kinda dead .
More 's the pity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You know, T-Mobile, a few years back, introduced UMA (Unlicensed Mobile Access) [wikipedia.org]  with some of their phones (which T-Mo has subsequently marketted under 3 different names, you know, to confuse their customers, I guess), but none of the other carriers picked up on it, and T-Mo pretty quickly abandoned it - I believe their network still supports it, and some/all of their Blackberries support it, but they pretty quickly stopped advertising it, none of the Android phones support it, and T-Mo has quietly gotten rid of every non-Blackberry phone that used to have the UMA feature.It's really kind of a shame - UMA is a great idea: basically, any WiFi hotspot that you can connect to become a "cell tower" (well, it routes cell phone traffic over a tunnel on the Internet, to T-Mo's network, so it basically becomes VoIP).
This Femtocell idea is something that some of the other carriers are sort of testing (I have some relatives on Sprint who got one because there is very poor reception at their house).
But, I think UMA is a superior solution to these femtocells, because a) with UMA, you need a phone with UMA support, but you had to get a phone anyway, so adding UMA to phones would have been almost 'free' from the customer perspective, with the only other equipment needed being something you *probably* already have, and if you don't, you can get dirt cheap at Microcenter, Best Buy, Fry's, etc., and B) the femtocell will *only* work at your own location where you put it, whereas UMA would work with any Internet connection and most Wifi hotspots, which means that I could take advantage of it at other locations if they have WiFi (relatives or friends houses, school, work, shopping, etc) too.Now, I think with the Android phones, you can now do some VoIP calling, but the advantage with UMA was that calls would seamlessly transfer between wifi and the cell network (if you left Wifi range, or entered Wifi range).
It's really a damn shame that the cell phone industry didn't adopt UMA as a feature, because to me, it seems like a vastly superior approach than femtocells.I suppose it's theoretically possible that UMA could rise from the ashes, but at this point, it seems kinda dead.
More's the pity.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697286</id>
	<title>Any asterisk compatable solutions?</title>
	<author>bflong</author>
	<datestamp>1262977080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I would love to have something like this that interfaces with Asterisk.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would love to have something like this that interfaces with Asterisk .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would love to have something like this that interfaces with Asterisk.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30700670</id>
	<title>Re:Is this legal?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262948100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can easily see how this would work on an locked GSM phone. You can simply tell the phone that you want to manually select the network to connect to. Select the MagicJack one and BOOM.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I can easily see how this would work on an locked GSM phone .
You can simply tell the phone that you want to manually select the network to connect to .
Select the MagicJack one and BOOM .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can easily see how this would work on an locked GSM phone.
You can simply tell the phone that you want to manually select the network to connect to.
Select the MagicJack one and BOOM.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30705436</id>
	<title>Operators will not buy in.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263068280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Which operator will allow its devices to operate on this femtocell? I think it is illegal to use licensed frequencies.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Which operator will allow its devices to operate on this femtocell ?
I think it is illegal to use licensed frequencies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Which operator will allow its devices to operate on this femtocell?
I think it is illegal to use licensed frequencies.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697430</id>
	<title>Re:Does MagicJack Work?</title>
	<author>DarthBart</author>
	<datestamp>1262977680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Works fine if you want to leave your Windows box on 24/7, plug another USB device into it, and install their ad-laden call manager software.  Oh, and its great if you like non-existent tech support.</p><p>No free lunches, folks.  Unlimited service for $19.95/year isn't possible unless that money is coming from ads, a ponzi scheme, or outright fraud.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Works fine if you want to leave your Windows box on 24/7 , plug another USB device into it , and install their ad-laden call manager software .
Oh , and its great if you like non-existent tech support.No free lunches , folks .
Unlimited service for $ 19.95/year is n't possible unless that money is coming from ads , a ponzi scheme , or outright fraud .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Works fine if you want to leave your Windows box on 24/7, plug another USB device into it, and install their ad-laden call manager software.
Oh, and its great if you like non-existent tech support.No free lunches, folks.
Unlimited service for $19.95/year isn't possible unless that money is coming from ads, a ponzi scheme, or outright fraud.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30698026</id>
	<title>3000 sq ft house?</title>
	<author>EatHam</author>
	<datestamp>1262980020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p> It supposedly will cover a 3,000 sq ft house.</p></div></blockquote><p>

My house is 3 feet wide and 1000 ft long.  Am I covered, smart guy?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It supposedly will cover a 3,000 sq ft house .
My house is 3 feet wide and 1000 ft long .
Am I covered , smart guy ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext> It supposedly will cover a 3,000 sq ft house.
My house is 3 feet wide and 1000 ft long.
Am I covered, smart guy?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697266</id>
	<title>MJ is a SCAM folks</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262977020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It is a scam.  Consumer Reports said so.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It is a scam .
Consumer Reports said so .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is a scam.
Consumer Reports said so.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30712450</id>
	<title>Re:Does MagicJack Work?</title>
	<author>RubberDogBone</author>
	<datestamp>1263057060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Allright, I'll bite: as a MJ user for almost two years now, I have never seen ad one coming from the software UI on any of the two PCs and one Mac where I use the product.</p><p>I see a LOT of people claiming it's spyware or adware and "there's tons of ads in it, bro!" but I've never seen it.  I run a ton of security software and sandboxes and firewalls and more, well beyond the average user's depth into that sort of thing and there's never been a problem related to MagicJack's software.</p><p>The only thing remotely close to advertising is the little pane in the software UI that offers international calling or service renewals.  And it's dull and just sits there and stays out of the way. It's not exactly even noticeable.  Banner ads on Slashdot are more annoying.</p><p>So if THAT is what people are upset about, then I guess I need to get more upset.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Allright , I 'll bite : as a MJ user for almost two years now , I have never seen ad one coming from the software UI on any of the two PCs and one Mac where I use the product.I see a LOT of people claiming it 's spyware or adware and " there 's tons of ads in it , bro !
" but I 've never seen it .
I run a ton of security software and sandboxes and firewalls and more , well beyond the average user 's depth into that sort of thing and there 's never been a problem related to MagicJack 's software.The only thing remotely close to advertising is the little pane in the software UI that offers international calling or service renewals .
And it 's dull and just sits there and stays out of the way .
It 's not exactly even noticeable .
Banner ads on Slashdot are more annoying.So if THAT is what people are upset about , then I guess I need to get more upset .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Allright, I'll bite: as a MJ user for almost two years now, I have never seen ad one coming from the software UI on any of the two PCs and one Mac where I use the product.I see a LOT of people claiming it's spyware or adware and "there's tons of ads in it, bro!
" but I've never seen it.
I run a ton of security software and sandboxes and firewalls and more, well beyond the average user's depth into that sort of thing and there's never been a problem related to MagicJack's software.The only thing remotely close to advertising is the little pane in the software UI that offers international calling or service renewals.
And it's dull and just sits there and stays out of the way.
It's not exactly even noticeable.
Banner ads on Slashdot are more annoying.So if THAT is what people are upset about, then I guess I need to get more upset.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30698966</id>
	<title>Re:Why femto?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262984100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This does not bode well for my interpretation of megaman.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This does not bode well for my interpretation of megaman .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This does not bode well for my interpretation of megaman.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697856</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697584</id>
	<title>can do this with call forwarding...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262978280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Welcome to 1980.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Welcome to 1980 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Welcome to 1980.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30698246</id>
	<title>What's the point?</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1262981040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can just as easily make a call over WLAN. And most, if not all smartphones do WLAN already. Just install the software, if your phone doesn&rsquo;t already have it build-in (as mine does).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I can just as easily make a call over WLAN .
And most , if not all smartphones do WLAN already .
Just install the software , if your phone doesn    t already have it build-in ( as mine does ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can just as easily make a call over WLAN.
And most, if not all smartphones do WLAN already.
Just install the software, if your phone doesn’t already have it build-in (as mine does).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697994</id>
	<title>Might be able to negotiate</title>
	<author>JSBiff</author>
	<datestamp>1262979960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Lot's of people figure you can't negotiate with a cell or cable company, but that might not be true. I have relatives who use Sprint. They've been using Sprint for a few years, and had upgraded to a more premium voice &amp; data package for 2 phones. They were generally happy with Sprint, but the coverage at their house was crappy. They talked to Sprint about this, basically told them they weren't going to pay additional monthly fees on top of the premium package fees they were already paying, but were unhappy with reception at their house, and were able to get Sprint to sell them the femtocell device at a slight discount and wave all monthly fees.</p><p>I don't know if AT&amp;T will negotiate, but sometimes with things like this (which are basically add-ons), cell companies *want* to charge if they think they can get away with it, but if you tell them you won't pay and *additional* $10-20/mo on top of normal cell service fees and Internet access fees, just to get service, they might back down.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Lot 's of people figure you ca n't negotiate with a cell or cable company , but that might not be true .
I have relatives who use Sprint .
They 've been using Sprint for a few years , and had upgraded to a more premium voice &amp; data package for 2 phones .
They were generally happy with Sprint , but the coverage at their house was crappy .
They talked to Sprint about this , basically told them they were n't going to pay additional monthly fees on top of the premium package fees they were already paying , but were unhappy with reception at their house , and were able to get Sprint to sell them the femtocell device at a slight discount and wave all monthly fees.I do n't know if AT&amp;T will negotiate , but sometimes with things like this ( which are basically add-ons ) , cell companies * want * to charge if they think they can get away with it , but if you tell them you wo n't pay and * additional * $ 10-20/mo on top of normal cell service fees and Internet access fees , just to get service , they might back down .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lot's of people figure you can't negotiate with a cell or cable company, but that might not be true.
I have relatives who use Sprint.
They've been using Sprint for a few years, and had upgraded to a more premium voice &amp; data package for 2 phones.
They were generally happy with Sprint, but the coverage at their house was crappy.
They talked to Sprint about this, basically told them they weren't going to pay additional monthly fees on top of the premium package fees they were already paying, but were unhappy with reception at their house, and were able to get Sprint to sell them the femtocell device at a slight discount and wave all monthly fees.I don't know if AT&amp;T will negotiate, but sometimes with things like this (which are basically add-ons), cell companies *want* to charge if they think they can get away with it, but if you tell them you won't pay and *additional* $10-20/mo on top of normal cell service fees and Internet access fees, just to get service, they might back down.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697336</id>
	<title>Re:MJ is a SCAM folks</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262977320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Consumer reports said no such thing.  In fact, they gave it a reasonably <a href="http://www.telemarketingfromhome.com/magicjackuserproductreview.html" title="telemarket...omhome.com">positive review</a> [telemarket...omhome.com] (and yes, I realize that this is not consumer reports' website, but I read the print article when it arrived in my mailbox a week ago, and to my memory it is close if not a direct reprint).  I am not endorsing the product, and I know little about it, to say that Consumer Reports said it is a scam is disingenuous.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Consumer reports said no such thing .
In fact , they gave it a reasonably positive review [ telemarket...omhome.com ] ( and yes , I realize that this is not consumer reports ' website , but I read the print article when it arrived in my mailbox a week ago , and to my memory it is close if not a direct reprint ) .
I am not endorsing the product , and I know little about it , to say that Consumer Reports said it is a scam is disingenuous .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Consumer reports said no such thing.
In fact, they gave it a reasonably positive review [telemarket...omhome.com] (and yes, I realize that this is not consumer reports' website, but I read the print article when it arrived in my mailbox a week ago, and to my memory it is close if not a direct reprint).
I am not endorsing the product, and I know little about it, to say that Consumer Reports said it is a scam is disingenuous.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697620</id>
	<title>Frankly, I don't give a damn about magicjack,</title>
	<author>fuzzyfuzzyfungus</author>
	<datestamp>1262978400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>When it takes only slightly more tech-fu to get a real SIP based setup working. However, if they are actually planning on selling a $40 USB peripheral than functions as a GSM femtocell, I am interested. Very Interested.<br> <br>

Reverse engineering the sucker, and getting a Free driver built would be a hell of a boon to small scale asterisk setups and similar. Most devices running asterisk or other software PBXs have at least one USB port, and being able to set up your own asterisk integrated femtocell would be awesome(either to let you take advantage of a lower priced/fewer minutes plan by doing all your home calling over a cheap SIP trunk or simply to take advantage of the fact that used and/or low-end GSM handsets are substantially cheaper than decent Wi Fi based SIP handsets are).<br> <br>

I don't assume that they would approve(and I can't imagine that team traditional telco would be too happy either) but if MagicJack is actually planning to make femtocells as cheap as USB wifi dongles, they get a gold star from me.</htmltext>
<tokenext>When it takes only slightly more tech-fu to get a real SIP based setup working .
However , if they are actually planning on selling a $ 40 USB peripheral than functions as a GSM femtocell , I am interested .
Very Interested .
Reverse engineering the sucker , and getting a Free driver built would be a hell of a boon to small scale asterisk setups and similar .
Most devices running asterisk or other software PBXs have at least one USB port , and being able to set up your own asterisk integrated femtocell would be awesome ( either to let you take advantage of a lower priced/fewer minutes plan by doing all your home calling over a cheap SIP trunk or simply to take advantage of the fact that used and/or low-end GSM handsets are substantially cheaper than decent Wi Fi based SIP handsets are ) .
I do n't assume that they would approve ( and I ca n't imagine that team traditional telco would be too happy either ) but if MagicJack is actually planning to make femtocells as cheap as USB wifi dongles , they get a gold star from me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When it takes only slightly more tech-fu to get a real SIP based setup working.
However, if they are actually planning on selling a $40 USB peripheral than functions as a GSM femtocell, I am interested.
Very Interested.
Reverse engineering the sucker, and getting a Free driver built would be a hell of a boon to small scale asterisk setups and similar.
Most devices running asterisk or other software PBXs have at least one USB port, and being able to set up your own asterisk integrated femtocell would be awesome(either to let you take advantage of a lower priced/fewer minutes plan by doing all your home calling over a cheap SIP trunk or simply to take advantage of the fact that used and/or low-end GSM handsets are substantially cheaper than decent Wi Fi based SIP handsets are).
I don't assume that they would approve(and I can't imagine that team traditional telco would be too happy either) but if MagicJack is actually planning to make femtocells as cheap as USB wifi dongles, they get a gold star from me.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30701284</id>
	<title>Re:Requires PC</title>
	<author>exhilaration</author>
	<datestamp>1262950800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>did you just post your phone number to <b>Slashdot</b>????</htmltext>
<tokenext>did you just post your phone number to Slashdot ? ? ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>did you just post your phone number to Slashdot???
?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697304</id>
	<title>Is this legal?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262977200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There's no "trick" to work with locked phones. GSM has <b>no</b> network-side authentication, so all you have to do is impersonate your carrier's network (this is trivial). But I can't imagine this being in line with regulations. Another issue is that encryption does not work unless you're a carrier and share a secret with the phone's SIM, which means that invariably your calls will be broadcast in the clear when you're using this device.</p><p>I'm not entirely sure this is a good idea. Femtocells are great, but impersonating carriers gets you into all sorts of sticky issues.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's no " trick " to work with locked phones .
GSM has no network-side authentication , so all you have to do is impersonate your carrier 's network ( this is trivial ) .
But I ca n't imagine this being in line with regulations .
Another issue is that encryption does not work unless you 're a carrier and share a secret with the phone 's SIM , which means that invariably your calls will be broadcast in the clear when you 're using this device.I 'm not entirely sure this is a good idea .
Femtocells are great , but impersonating carriers gets you into all sorts of sticky issues .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's no "trick" to work with locked phones.
GSM has no network-side authentication, so all you have to do is impersonate your carrier's network (this is trivial).
But I can't imagine this being in line with regulations.
Another issue is that encryption does not work unless you're a carrier and share a secret with the phone's SIM, which means that invariably your calls will be broadcast in the clear when you're using this device.I'm not entirely sure this is a good idea.
Femtocells are great, but impersonating carriers gets you into all sorts of sticky issues.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30699828</id>
	<title>Re:Is this legal?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262944440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>At least in Germany, you can't get wireless phones, that don't do DECT - yes, the implementations are mostly broken, but in theory at least all data is encrypted.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>At least in Germany , you ca n't get wireless phones , that do n't do DECT - yes , the implementations are mostly broken , but in theory at least all data is encrypted .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At least in Germany, you can't get wireless phones, that don't do DECT - yes, the implementations are mostly broken, but in theory at least all data is encrypted.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697416</id>
	<title>Re:MJ is a SCAM folks</title>
	<author>netmucus</author>
	<datestamp>1262977620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Completely agree. There is no way to uninstall it from your system without completely re-installing your OS. Read their Terms and beware.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Completely agree .
There is no way to uninstall it from your system without completely re-installing your OS .
Read their Terms and beware .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Completely agree.
There is no way to uninstall it from your system without completely re-installing your OS.
Read their Terms and beware.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30698342</id>
	<title>Re:Requires PC</title>
	<author>JDeane</author>
	<datestamp>1262981400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Why can't they make a standalone device!?"</p><p>Too expensive.</p><p>Maybe a little wireless router type device would work but it would cost more then $40.</p><p>I know you can get some cheap routers cheaper then that but I think a large part of the money goes into the network and running the service the device is pretty much just an adapter to connect to your PC so it can do all the heavy lifting.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Why ca n't they make a standalone device ! ?
" Too expensive.Maybe a little wireless router type device would work but it would cost more then $ 40.I know you can get some cheap routers cheaper then that but I think a large part of the money goes into the network and running the service the device is pretty much just an adapter to connect to your PC so it can do all the heavy lifting .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Why can't they make a standalone device!?
"Too expensive.Maybe a little wireless router type device would work but it would cost more then $40.I know you can get some cheap routers cheaper then that but I think a large part of the money goes into the network and running the service the device is pretty much just an adapter to connect to your PC so it can do all the heavy lifting.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697614</id>
	<title>Re:Is this legal?</title>
	<author>nxtw</author>
	<datestamp>1262978400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>GSM has no network-side authentication, so all you have to do is impersonate your carrier's network (this is trivial).</p></div></blockquote><p>Is this true with UMTS as well?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>GSM has no network-side authentication , so all you have to do is impersonate your carrier 's network ( this is trivial ) .Is this true with UMTS as well ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>GSM has no network-side authentication, so all you have to do is impersonate your carrier's network (this is trivial).Is this true with UMTS as well?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697718</id>
	<title>Re:Does MagicJack Work?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262978760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's pretty darn good with an always-on thin client and if your router manages to do QOS properly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's pretty darn good with an always-on thin client and if your router manages to do QOS properly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's pretty darn good with an always-on thin client and if your router manages to do QOS properly.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697808</id>
	<title>Re:Does MagicJack Work?</title>
	<author>skiman1979</author>
	<datestamp>1262979240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There's also another device:  <a href="https://www.tk6000.com/" title="tk6000.com">Nettalk TK6000</a> [tk6000.com], which looks quite a bit like MagicJack, but without the USB connector.  It doesn't require a PC at all.</p><p>As for MagicJack, I have been using one at home for several months now.  I have it running on a headless XP desktop, so the ad-laden call manager doesn't bother me since I never see it.  Sometimes the call quality isn't that great, especially when I first got it, but after some tweaks, it's working rather well.</p><p>I wouldn't say MagicJack tech support is non-existent.  It's just in the form of a live chat with a tech via their website.  I've used them a few times before.  Sometimes they are more helpful than others, depending on who actually answers your chat I suppose.  One time I was forwarded to a Level II support person, and they were even more helpful.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's also another device : Nettalk TK6000 [ tk6000.com ] , which looks quite a bit like MagicJack , but without the USB connector .
It does n't require a PC at all.As for MagicJack , I have been using one at home for several months now .
I have it running on a headless XP desktop , so the ad-laden call manager does n't bother me since I never see it .
Sometimes the call quality is n't that great , especially when I first got it , but after some tweaks , it 's working rather well.I would n't say MagicJack tech support is non-existent .
It 's just in the form of a live chat with a tech via their website .
I 've used them a few times before .
Sometimes they are more helpful than others , depending on who actually answers your chat I suppose .
One time I was forwarded to a Level II support person , and they were even more helpful .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's also another device:  Nettalk TK6000 [tk6000.com], which looks quite a bit like MagicJack, but without the USB connector.
It doesn't require a PC at all.As for MagicJack, I have been using one at home for several months now.
I have it running on a headless XP desktop, so the ad-laden call manager doesn't bother me since I never see it.
Sometimes the call quality isn't that great, especially when I first got it, but after some tweaks, it's working rather well.I wouldn't say MagicJack tech support is non-existent.
It's just in the form of a live chat with a tech via their website.
I've used them a few times before.
Sometimes they are more helpful than others, depending on who actually answers your chat I suppose.
One time I was forwarded to a Level II support person, and they were even more helpful.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30702258</id>
	<title>Re:Requires PC</title>
	<author>medelliadegray</author>
	<datestamp>1262955480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I feel the $5 range is pretty optimistic for most people as you talked for 130 minutes of incoming calls. $9 bucks gets your unlimited incoming.</p><p>Users should also realize that outgoing costs money too. it's $0.019 per min on top of the incoming costs......</p><p>This is what i do with callcentric. Get a VOIP capable cellular-phone, i use a Nokia e71... (most UNLOCKED Nokia smartphones all have a sip client built-in as i understand). Give friends your call-centric number, setup a rule in callcentric that forwards you to your PAYG number and if you are not logged in.</p><p>The savings alone from dropping my cellular-400 min plan paid for the phone in a matter of a few months. You then get big telco independence, and you'll save hundreds per year overall.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I feel the $ 5 range is pretty optimistic for most people as you talked for 130 minutes of incoming calls .
$ 9 bucks gets your unlimited incoming.Users should also realize that outgoing costs money too .
it 's $ 0.019 per min on top of the incoming costs......This is what i do with callcentric .
Get a VOIP capable cellular-phone , i use a Nokia e71... ( most UNLOCKED Nokia smartphones all have a sip client built-in as i understand ) .
Give friends your call-centric number , setup a rule in callcentric that forwards you to your PAYG number and if you are not logged in.The savings alone from dropping my cellular-400 min plan paid for the phone in a matter of a few months .
You then get big telco independence , and you 'll save hundreds per year overall .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I feel the $5 range is pretty optimistic for most people as you talked for 130 minutes of incoming calls.
$9 bucks gets your unlimited incoming.Users should also realize that outgoing costs money too.
it's $0.019 per min on top of the incoming costs......This is what i do with callcentric.
Get a VOIP capable cellular-phone, i use a Nokia e71... (most UNLOCKED Nokia smartphones all have a sip client built-in as i understand).
Give friends your call-centric number, setup a rule in callcentric that forwards you to your PAYG number and if you are not logged in.The savings alone from dropping my cellular-400 min plan paid for the phone in a matter of a few months.
You then get big telco independence, and you'll save hundreds per year overall.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30698408</id>
	<title>Ooma is better and cheaper in long run</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262981700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ooma has much better call quality and reliability, although it cost $200 upfront. After that you pay $12/year regulatory fee for basic features, which include free long distance within US, Caller Id, Voice mail etc. Premium features are $10/month extra.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ooma has much better call quality and reliability , although it cost $ 200 upfront .
After that you pay $ 12/year regulatory fee for basic features , which include free long distance within US , Caller Id , Voice mail etc .
Premium features are $ 10/month extra .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ooma has much better call quality and reliability, although it cost $200 upfront.
After that you pay $12/year regulatory fee for basic features, which include free long distance within US, Caller Id, Voice mail etc.
Premium features are $10/month extra.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30701366</id>
	<title>Overseas?</title>
	<author>LuminaireX</author>
	<datestamp>1262951280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I know the AT&amp;T femtocells have a GPS chip built into them to prevent their use overseas. Can this device be used in another country? I would love to carry one of these with me when I travel to avoid international roaming fees.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I know the AT&amp;T femtocells have a GPS chip built into them to prevent their use overseas .
Can this device be used in another country ?
I would love to carry one of these with me when I travel to avoid international roaming fees .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know the AT&amp;T femtocells have a GPS chip built into them to prevent their use overseas.
Can this device be used in another country?
I would love to carry one of these with me when I travel to avoid international roaming fees.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697670</id>
	<title>Why femto?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262978580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why is this called a femto cell?  The area covered is much more than 10^-15 of that of a standard cell tower.  If this device covers a radius of 50 ft, and a tower works to a radius of about mile, then the fractional area covered is 10^-4, or somewhere between a microcell and a millicell.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why is this called a femto cell ?
The area covered is much more than 10 ^ -15 of that of a standard cell tower .
If this device covers a radius of 50 ft , and a tower works to a radius of about mile , then the fractional area covered is 10 ^ -4 , or somewhere between a microcell and a millicell .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why is this called a femto cell?
The area covered is much more than 10^-15 of that of a standard cell tower.
If this device covers a radius of 50 ft, and a tower works to a radius of about mile, then the fractional area covered is 10^-4, or somewhere between a microcell and a millicell.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697856</id>
	<title>Re:Why femto?</title>
	<author>Clueless Moron</author>
	<datestamp>1262979420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Put simply, because the names microcell and picocell were already taken.
<p>
The names are not meant in the traditional mathematical sense; they just refer to coverage.  A microcell will cover roughly a hotel, a picocell a typical office floor.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Put simply , because the names microcell and picocell were already taken .
The names are not meant in the traditional mathematical sense ; they just refer to coverage .
A microcell will cover roughly a hotel , a picocell a typical office floor .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Put simply, because the names microcell and picocell were already taken.
The names are not meant in the traditional mathematical sense; they just refer to coverage.
A microcell will cover roughly a hotel, a picocell a typical office floor.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30698884</id>
	<title>MagicJack Femtocell Gates Cell Traffic to VoIP</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262983800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Can someone help? I'm having trouble finding the verb in the story title.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Can someone help ?
I 'm having trouble finding the verb in the story title .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can someone help?
I'm having trouble finding the verb in the story title.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697832</id>
	<title>Re:Why femto?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262979360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's an informal term to indicate that it covers less area than a picocell, which is also an informal term. I assume there might be a formal definition somewhere up the chain of cell sizes, but I don't know for sure:
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picocell" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picocell</a> [wikipedia.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's an informal term to indicate that it covers less area than a picocell , which is also an informal term .
I assume there might be a formal definition somewhere up the chain of cell sizes , but I do n't know for sure : http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picocell [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's an informal term to indicate that it covers less area than a picocell, which is also an informal term.
I assume there might be a formal definition somewhere up the chain of cell sizes, but I don't know for sure:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picocell [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30708170</id>
	<title>Re:You newbs, MJ is not a scam...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263061740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Magic Jack was terrible, we couldn't use it with multiple phones, tech support was a bunch of illiterate foreigners who could not even understand what I was having problems with.  Setting up multiple lines with MJ was impossible and they over billed us several times.</p><p>
&nbsp; On April 15, 2009 Attorney General Bill McCollum announced that his Economic Crimes Division has reached a settlement with a Palm Beach County business over allegations the company marketed a &ldquo;free&rdquo; 30-day trial for its long distance phone equipment, but actually charged and debited consumers during the trial.</p><p>I don't think that Bill is a phone salesman.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Magic Jack was terrible , we could n't use it with multiple phones , tech support was a bunch of illiterate foreigners who could not even understand what I was having problems with .
Setting up multiple lines with MJ was impossible and they over billed us several times .
  On April 15 , 2009 Attorney General Bill McCollum announced that his Economic Crimes Division has reached a settlement with a Palm Beach County business over allegations the company marketed a    free    30-day trial for its long distance phone equipment , but actually charged and debited consumers during the trial.I do n't think that Bill is a phone salesman .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Magic Jack was terrible, we couldn't use it with multiple phones, tech support was a bunch of illiterate foreigners who could not even understand what I was having problems with.
Setting up multiple lines with MJ was impossible and they over billed us several times.
  On April 15, 2009 Attorney General Bill McCollum announced that his Economic Crimes Division has reached a settlement with a Palm Beach County business over allegations the company marketed a “free” 30-day trial for its long distance phone equipment, but actually charged and debited consumers during the trial.I don't think that Bill is a phone salesman.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697578</id>
	<title>AT&amp;T has already been marketing these</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262978280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've been getting offers for one of these from AT&amp;T.  If I remember correctly, they want $100 for the cell plus $19.99 a month for the service.  You also need a broadband connection.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been getting offers for one of these from AT&amp;T .
If I remember correctly , they want $ 100 for the cell plus $ 19.99 a month for the service .
You also need a broadband connection .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been getting offers for one of these from AT&amp;T.
If I remember correctly, they want $100 for the cell plus $19.99 a month for the service.
You also need a broadband connection.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697904</id>
	<title>Re:MJ is a SCAM folks</title>
	<author>Rolgar</author>
	<datestamp>1262979600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've got an Ooma system. 3000 free local or long distance minutes a month, no monthly charge. The call quality isn't perfect, but I'm saving $300 a year after it pays for itself in 8 months (2 months from now), and I'm not going to complain.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've got an Ooma system .
3000 free local or long distance minutes a month , no monthly charge .
The call quality is n't perfect , but I 'm saving $ 300 a year after it pays for itself in 8 months ( 2 months from now ) , and I 'm not going to complain .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've got an Ooma system.
3000 free local or long distance minutes a month, no monthly charge.
The call quality isn't perfect, but I'm saving $300 a year after it pays for itself in 8 months (2 months from now), and I'm not going to complain.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30698130</id>
	<title>Re:Requires PC</title>
	<author>scorp1us</author>
	<datestamp>1262980560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This post will mention specific products and services, but of which I am a customer and the following is my testimony.</p><p>For my home phone:<br>I signed up with CallCentric for free.<br>I bought a Linksys PAP2 for $50 before shipping. (This is the VIOP box which allows me to keep my standard phone/message machine)<br>I set it up with CallCentric and tested the service with CallCentric-assigned ph#.<br>For $20 I ported my phone# over to CallCentric.<br>For $3.95 a month, I get calling and $0.015 (1.5cents) per minute calling to US and Canada. The fee is a 911-recovery fee and some other fee.<br>My phone bill is less than $5 a month.</p><p>There is no PC required, just the  PAP2 and the broadband connection. I even get callerID!</p><p>This is my monthly bill:</p><p>This email is a receipt of your transaction.</p><p>Product name    Period    Price<br>DID - Pay Per Minute - 14106661533    Jan 01, 2010 - Jan 31, 2010    $ 1.95<br>911 Cost Recovery Fee    $ 1.50<br>Billed from Credit card:    $ 0.00<br>Billed from Balance:    $ 3.45</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This post will mention specific products and services , but of which I am a customer and the following is my testimony.For my home phone : I signed up with CallCentric for free.I bought a Linksys PAP2 for $ 50 before shipping .
( This is the VIOP box which allows me to keep my standard phone/message machine ) I set it up with CallCentric and tested the service with CallCentric-assigned ph # .For $ 20 I ported my phone # over to CallCentric.For $ 3.95 a month , I get calling and $ 0.015 ( 1.5cents ) per minute calling to US and Canada .
The fee is a 911-recovery fee and some other fee.My phone bill is less than $ 5 a month.There is no PC required , just the PAP2 and the broadband connection .
I even get callerID ! This is my monthly bill : This email is a receipt of your transaction.Product name Period PriceDID - Pay Per Minute - 14106661533 Jan 01 , 2010 - Jan 31 , 2010 $ 1.95911 Cost Recovery Fee $ 1.50Billed from Credit card : $ 0.00Billed from Balance : $ 3.45</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This post will mention specific products and services, but of which I am a customer and the following is my testimony.For my home phone:I signed up with CallCentric for free.I bought a Linksys PAP2 for $50 before shipping.
(This is the VIOP box which allows me to keep my standard phone/message machine)I set it up with CallCentric and tested the service with CallCentric-assigned ph#.For $20 I ported my phone# over to CallCentric.For $3.95 a month, I get calling and $0.015 (1.5cents) per minute calling to US and Canada.
The fee is a 911-recovery fee and some other fee.My phone bill is less than $5 a month.There is no PC required, just the  PAP2 and the broadband connection.
I even get callerID!This is my monthly bill:This email is a receipt of your transaction.Product name    Period    PriceDID - Pay Per Minute - 14106661533    Jan 01, 2010 - Jan 31, 2010    $ 1.95911 Cost Recovery Fee    $ 1.50Billed from Credit card:    $ 0.00Billed from Balance:    $ 3.45</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30698266</id>
	<title>Re:You newbs, MJ is not a scam...</title>
	<author>JDeane</author>
	<datestamp>1262981100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I too use T-Mobile and unlimited here is about 55$ a month.</p><p>They want 40$ a year for this thing.</p><p>I may switch to this honestly, the convenience of having a cell phone VS keeping an extra $620+(fees and taxes) a year in my pocket hmmmm.</p><p>I would miss making calls from some places to ask some one a quick question but other then that I could probably survive.</p><p>I think 911 is free so I could keep an old cell with me just for emergencies.</p><p>I would be trying it out before I turned off my cell though if the quality is bad then the money saved wouldn't be worth it, and to some people who have to have access to a phone 24/7 (a lot of people have important things to do, sadly I do not or I am just too old to be rushed? take your pick lol)</p><p>Maybe have if for like 2 months, and if it was reliable and sounded good, then I would consider ditching my cell company (I have been with T-Mobile so long I don't have a contract Muhahahhaha)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I too use T-Mobile and unlimited here is about 55 $ a month.They want 40 $ a year for this thing.I may switch to this honestly , the convenience of having a cell phone VS keeping an extra $ 620 + ( fees and taxes ) a year in my pocket hmmmm.I would miss making calls from some places to ask some one a quick question but other then that I could probably survive.I think 911 is free so I could keep an old cell with me just for emergencies.I would be trying it out before I turned off my cell though if the quality is bad then the money saved would n't be worth it , and to some people who have to have access to a phone 24/7 ( a lot of people have important things to do , sadly I do not or I am just too old to be rushed ?
take your pick lol ) Maybe have if for like 2 months , and if it was reliable and sounded good , then I would consider ditching my cell company ( I have been with T-Mobile so long I do n't have a contract Muhahahhaha )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I too use T-Mobile and unlimited here is about 55$ a month.They want 40$ a year for this thing.I may switch to this honestly, the convenience of having a cell phone VS keeping an extra $620+(fees and taxes) a year in my pocket hmmmm.I would miss making calls from some places to ask some one a quick question but other then that I could probably survive.I think 911 is free so I could keep an old cell with me just for emergencies.I would be trying it out before I turned off my cell though if the quality is bad then the money saved wouldn't be worth it, and to some people who have to have access to a phone 24/7 (a lot of people have important things to do, sadly I do not or I am just too old to be rushed?
take your pick lol)Maybe have if for like 2 months, and if it was reliable and sounded good, then I would consider ditching my cell company (I have been with T-Mobile so long I don't have a contract Muhahahhaha)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697544</id>
	<title>I have that magicjac doodad...</title>
	<author>zorkdork</author>
	<datestamp>1262978160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>and now I can call all my friends for free.</p><p>And then I realized, I have no friends.</p><p>FOR SALE MAGIC JACK, used twice.  $1</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>and now I can call all my friends for free.And then I realized , I have no friends.FOR SALE MAGIC JACK , used twice .
$ 1</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and now I can call all my friends for free.And then I realized, I have no friends.FOR SALE MAGIC JACK, used twice.
$1</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30698514</id>
	<title>Re:Does MagicJack Work?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262982300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>No free lunches, folks. Unlimited service for $19.95/year isn't possible unless that money is coming from ads, a ponzi scheme, or outright fraud.</p></div></blockquote><p>That statement is true, because it's so general.  But unlimited <em>voice</em> service for a few amortized pennies a year, is definitely feasible if you're already paying $50/month for 7 Mbps IP.  They're just packets, and not <em>many</em> packets compared to what most people are moving. I use more bandwidth in a single day, than a person talking on a phone nonstop 24x7 for a year.</p><p>This particular product may indeed come with ads, fraud etc but there's no reason the tech in general needs to.</p><p>There's no such thing as a free lunch, but when food is dirt cheap, you can get a very cheap lunch.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>No free lunches , folks .
Unlimited service for $ 19.95/year is n't possible unless that money is coming from ads , a ponzi scheme , or outright fraud.That statement is true , because it 's so general .
But unlimited voice service for a few amortized pennies a year , is definitely feasible if you 're already paying $ 50/month for 7 Mbps IP .
They 're just packets , and not many packets compared to what most people are moving .
I use more bandwidth in a single day , than a person talking on a phone nonstop 24x7 for a year.This particular product may indeed come with ads , fraud etc but there 's no reason the tech in general needs to.There 's no such thing as a free lunch , but when food is dirt cheap , you can get a very cheap lunch .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No free lunches, folks.
Unlimited service for $19.95/year isn't possible unless that money is coming from ads, a ponzi scheme, or outright fraud.That statement is true, because it's so general.
But unlimited voice service for a few amortized pennies a year, is definitely feasible if you're already paying $50/month for 7 Mbps IP.
They're just packets, and not many packets compared to what most people are moving.
I use more bandwidth in a single day, than a person talking on a phone nonstop 24x7 for a year.This particular product may indeed come with ads, fraud etc but there's no reason the tech in general needs to.There's no such thing as a free lunch, but when food is dirt cheap, you can get a very cheap lunch.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30701258</id>
	<title>Re:Is this legal?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262950680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What I would like to know is if I give this thing power with one of those 9v to USB thingies can I carry it in my pocket into a theater and block people from using their cellphones within 10 feet of me? The femto thing would talk to their cellphone, but obviously they couldn't make a call because it doesn't have the software or internet connection to actually make the call. Does a cellphone user have the option to connect to this thing or a regular cell tower? I don't think phones let you select who the phone connects to.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What I would like to know is if I give this thing power with one of those 9v to USB thingies can I carry it in my pocket into a theater and block people from using their cellphones within 10 feet of me ?
The femto thing would talk to their cellphone , but obviously they could n't make a call because it does n't have the software or internet connection to actually make the call .
Does a cellphone user have the option to connect to this thing or a regular cell tower ?
I do n't think phones let you select who the phone connects to .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What I would like to know is if I give this thing power with one of those 9v to USB thingies can I carry it in my pocket into a theater and block people from using their cellphones within 10 feet of me?
The femto thing would talk to their cellphone, but obviously they couldn't make a call because it doesn't have the software or internet connection to actually make the call.
Does a cellphone user have the option to connect to this thing or a regular cell tower?
I don't think phones let you select who the phone connects to.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30700204</id>
	<title>Re:The title is why I dislike English</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262945880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>So let's see, proper noun, noun, noun, noun, preposition, noun. Where's the verb?</p></div></blockquote><p>That's where you're going wrong.  It's proper noun, noun, verb, noun, noun, preposition, noun.  "Gates" is being used as a verb, which may be a little weird sounding to a non native English speaker, but, there it is.  Think of "gates" in this sentence as meaning something like "to route" and "to provide a portal" at the same time (I'm not sure that's a great explanation, but it's the best I've got off the top of my head).</p><blockquote><div><p>Would it really be that awful to say "MagicJack femtocell gating cell traffic to voip"?</p></div></blockquote><p>Not really, but it wouldn't be much different at all.  Either would probably do the job.</p><p>As for the rest of your comment, the only way anyone would really analyze this sentence the way you did is if they intended for it to be read by non-native English speakers, which Slashdot really doesn't do.  The primary audience is Americans, although it's pretty well established that everyone else is welcome here as well.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>So let 's see , proper noun , noun , noun , noun , preposition , noun .
Where 's the verb ? That 's where you 're going wrong .
It 's proper noun , noun , verb , noun , noun , preposition , noun .
" Gates " is being used as a verb , which may be a little weird sounding to a non native English speaker , but , there it is .
Think of " gates " in this sentence as meaning something like " to route " and " to provide a portal " at the same time ( I 'm not sure that 's a great explanation , but it 's the best I 've got off the top of my head ) .Would it really be that awful to say " MagicJack femtocell gating cell traffic to voip " ? Not really , but it would n't be much different at all .
Either would probably do the job.As for the rest of your comment , the only way anyone would really analyze this sentence the way you did is if they intended for it to be read by non-native English speakers , which Slashdot really does n't do .
The primary audience is Americans , although it 's pretty well established that everyone else is welcome here as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So let's see, proper noun, noun, noun, noun, preposition, noun.
Where's the verb?That's where you're going wrong.
It's proper noun, noun, verb, noun, noun, preposition, noun.
"Gates" is being used as a verb, which may be a little weird sounding to a non native English speaker, but, there it is.
Think of "gates" in this sentence as meaning something like "to route" and "to provide a portal" at the same time (I'm not sure that's a great explanation, but it's the best I've got off the top of my head).Would it really be that awful to say "MagicJack femtocell gating cell traffic to voip"?Not really, but it wouldn't be much different at all.
Either would probably do the job.As for the rest of your comment, the only way anyone would really analyze this sentence the way you did is if they intended for it to be read by non-native English speakers, which Slashdot really doesn't do.
The primary audience is Americans, although it's pretty well established that everyone else is welcome here as well.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697436</id>
	<title>You newbs, MJ is not a scam...</title>
	<author>Kungpaoshizi</author>
	<datestamp>1262977740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've had MajicJack for more than 6 months now, it's the best thing I have ever found for phone service.

Yes it sucks at times when I'm downloading etc, then the quality suffers a little, but otherwise 20$ a year, ya, I bet anyone and everyone screaming "SCAM!" is a freakin phone service salesman...

Phone companies and cell companies can't come anywhere near 20$ a year, not even skype, and I have noticed the quality IS better than skype...

MajicJack == the end of the line for residential phone companies</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've had MajicJack for more than 6 months now , it 's the best thing I have ever found for phone service .
Yes it sucks at times when I 'm downloading etc , then the quality suffers a little , but otherwise 20 $ a year , ya , I bet anyone and everyone screaming " SCAM !
" is a freakin phone service salesman.. . Phone companies and cell companies ca n't come anywhere near 20 $ a year , not even skype , and I have noticed the quality IS better than skype.. . MajicJack = = the end of the line for residential phone companies</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've had MajicJack for more than 6 months now, it's the best thing I have ever found for phone service.
Yes it sucks at times when I'm downloading etc, then the quality suffers a little, but otherwise 20$ a year, ya, I bet anyone and everyone screaming "SCAM!
" is a freakin phone service salesman...

Phone companies and cell companies can't come anywhere near 20$ a year, not even skype, and I have noticed the quality IS better than skype...

MajicJack == the end of the line for residential phone companies</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30700016</id>
	<title>Re:Too many possible holes</title>
	<author>UID30</author>
	<datestamp>1262945040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>...as opposed to, say, the wonderful encryption we get on land lines and wireless headsets nowdays?  This is certainly no LESS secure than the technology the public has used since 1877, and has the capability to be much more secure if, indeed, MJ has any encryption on their internet protocols.
<br> <br>
I am currently a UMA user thru T-Mobile, and I find this new MJ technology very intriguing<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... not particularly useful, but still interesting.  They seem to imply that you get the full MJ service<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... sooo I get a new phone number to give out for my home number which, when my cell phone is within range, might possibly connect to it if I don't have a good signal to my primary provider?  *boggle*
<br> <br>
I don't have a land line now because I got tired of the extra expense and the phone number juggling<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... but now I can get phone number juggling back for much less!  yay!  I wonder what their next product will be?  A CRT monitor that only weighs 1/20 as much as the old ones, but requires you to plug it into PCI graphics adapter?</htmltext>
<tokenext>...as opposed to , say , the wonderful encryption we get on land lines and wireless headsets nowdays ?
This is certainly no LESS secure than the technology the public has used since 1877 , and has the capability to be much more secure if , indeed , MJ has any encryption on their internet protocols .
I am currently a UMA user thru T-Mobile , and I find this new MJ technology very intriguing ... not particularly useful , but still interesting .
They seem to imply that you get the full MJ service ... sooo I get a new phone number to give out for my home number which , when my cell phone is within range , might possibly connect to it if I do n't have a good signal to my primary provider ?
* boggle * I do n't have a land line now because I got tired of the extra expense and the phone number juggling ... but now I can get phone number juggling back for much less !
yay ! I wonder what their next product will be ?
A CRT monitor that only weighs 1/20 as much as the old ones , but requires you to plug it into PCI graphics adapter ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...as opposed to, say, the wonderful encryption we get on land lines and wireless headsets nowdays?
This is certainly no LESS secure than the technology the public has used since 1877, and has the capability to be much more secure if, indeed, MJ has any encryption on their internet protocols.
I am currently a UMA user thru T-Mobile, and I find this new MJ technology very intriguing ... not particularly useful, but still interesting.
They seem to imply that you get the full MJ service ... sooo I get a new phone number to give out for my home number which, when my cell phone is within range, might possibly connect to it if I don't have a good signal to my primary provider?
*boggle*
 
I don't have a land line now because I got tired of the extra expense and the phone number juggling ... but now I can get phone number juggling back for much less!
yay!  I wonder what their next product will be?
A CRT monitor that only weighs 1/20 as much as the old ones, but requires you to plug it into PCI graphics adapter?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30698194</id>
	<title>Re:MJ is a SCAM folks</title>
	<author>Jaysyn</author>
	<datestamp>1262980860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Consumer Reports likes it.</p><p><a href="http://consumerist.com/2010/01/consumer-reports-science-shows-magic-jack-is-actually-worthwhile.html" title="consumerist.com">http://consumerist.com/2010/01/consumer-reports-science-shows-magic-jack-is-actually-worthwhile.html</a> [consumerist.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Consumer Reports likes it.http : //consumerist.com/2010/01/consumer-reports-science-shows-magic-jack-is-actually-worthwhile.html [ consumerist.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Consumer Reports likes it.http://consumerist.com/2010/01/consumer-reports-science-shows-magic-jack-is-actually-worthwhile.html [consumerist.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30703274</id>
	<title>Security issues?</title>
	<author>wronskyMan</author>
	<datestamp>1262961240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Could this become a hazard similar to the fake "free wifi" adhoc networks set up in airports, etc to capture passwords, etc? It would seem that a hidden one of these could capture many phone calls; in an area with many businessmen, for example, this could be used by criminals.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Could this become a hazard similar to the fake " free wifi " adhoc networks set up in airports , etc to capture passwords , etc ?
It would seem that a hidden one of these could capture many phone calls ; in an area with many businessmen , for example , this could be used by criminals .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Could this become a hazard similar to the fake "free wifi" adhoc networks set up in airports, etc to capture passwords, etc?
It would seem that a hidden one of these could capture many phone calls; in an area with many businessmen, for example, this could be used by criminals.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30698116</id>
	<title>Re:Requires PC</title>
	<author>Jaysyn</author>
	<datestamp>1262980500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Damn near anyone on this website should be able to make their own Magic Jack "standalone" out of spare parts in the closet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Damn near anyone on this website should be able to make their own Magic Jack " standalone " out of spare parts in the closet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Damn near anyone on this website should be able to make their own Magic Jack "standalone" out of spare parts in the closet.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697628</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697738</id>
	<title>Movie Theater</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262978820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Now only if I could plant one in the movie theater... think of the possibilities!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now only if I could plant one in the movie theater... think of the possibilities !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now only if I could plant one in the movie theater... think of the possibilities!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30698052</id>
	<title>Re:Does MagicJack Work?</title>
	<author>Jaysyn</author>
	<datestamp>1262980200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah it works.  Call quality isn't as good as a landline, but I had a better time using MJ than Skype.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah it works .
Call quality is n't as good as a landline , but I had a better time using MJ than Skype .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah it works.
Call quality isn't as good as a landline, but I had a better time using MJ than Skype.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30699050</id>
	<title>The title is why I dislike English</title>
	<author>jonaskoelker</author>
	<datestamp>1262941200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Mod me off-topic if you need to, but this title is why I my relationship with the English language is still slightly iffy.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>MagicJack Femtocell Gates Cell Traffic to VoIP</p></div><p>So let's see, proper noun, noun, noun, noun, preposition, noun.  Where's the verb?  Who's trafficking cells through the gates here?  Or wait, the cell traffic of the femtocell gates is to<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... no, wait.  With all the noun-as-adjective and ambiguous noun-or-verb words, your natural parser screws up---assuming your natural parser (like mine) is greedy and wants to impose structure as early and often as possible.</p><p>Would it really be that awful to say "MagicJack femtocell gating cell traffic to voip"?  Then you need a smaller token (i.e. word) lookahead before you can reduce "MagicJack femtocell" into subject, "gating" into verb, "cell traffic" to object, etc.  (or at least, you will sooner make guesses which later turn out to be correct, and so you won't have to backtrack).</p><p>I ar dum.  Editor buffalo smurf easier to marklar and understand.  Plies.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Mod me off-topic if you need to , but this title is why I my relationship with the English language is still slightly iffy.MagicJack Femtocell Gates Cell Traffic to VoIPSo let 's see , proper noun , noun , noun , noun , preposition , noun .
Where 's the verb ?
Who 's trafficking cells through the gates here ?
Or wait , the cell traffic of the femtocell gates is to ... no , wait .
With all the noun-as-adjective and ambiguous noun-or-verb words , your natural parser screws up---assuming your natural parser ( like mine ) is greedy and wants to impose structure as early and often as possible.Would it really be that awful to say " MagicJack femtocell gating cell traffic to voip " ?
Then you need a smaller token ( i.e .
word ) lookahead before you can reduce " MagicJack femtocell " into subject , " gating " into verb , " cell traffic " to object , etc .
( or at least , you will sooner make guesses which later turn out to be correct , and so you wo n't have to backtrack ) .I ar dum .
Editor buffalo smurf easier to marklar and understand .
Plies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mod me off-topic if you need to, but this title is why I my relationship with the English language is still slightly iffy.MagicJack Femtocell Gates Cell Traffic to VoIPSo let's see, proper noun, noun, noun, noun, preposition, noun.
Where's the verb?
Who's trafficking cells through the gates here?
Or wait, the cell traffic of the femtocell gates is to ... no, wait.
With all the noun-as-adjective and ambiguous noun-or-verb words, your natural parser screws up---assuming your natural parser (like mine) is greedy and wants to impose structure as early and often as possible.Would it really be that awful to say "MagicJack femtocell gating cell traffic to voip"?
Then you need a smaller token (i.e.
word) lookahead before you can reduce "MagicJack femtocell" into subject, "gating" into verb, "cell traffic" to object, etc.
(or at least, you will sooner make guesses which later turn out to be correct, and so you won't have to backtrack).I ar dum.
Editor buffalo smurf easier to marklar and understand.
Plies.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30720700</id>
	<title>Re:Frankly, I don't give a damn about magicjack,</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263242820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>ditto on the asterisk integration - any bets on how how long before a driver surfaces?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>ditto on the asterisk integration - any bets on how how long before a driver surfaces ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>ditto on the asterisk integration - any bets on how how long before a driver surfaces?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697620</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30698960</id>
	<title>Re:Too many possible holes</title>
	<author>Buelldozer</author>
	<datestamp>1262984100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You think people care about the privacy? If they do then why are services likes Google's so popular?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You think people care about the privacy ?
If they do then why are services likes Google 's so popular ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You think people care about the privacy?
If they do then why are services likes Google's so popular?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697466</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697804</id>
	<title>Re:Why femto?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262979240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Pretty sure femto refers to the radius in light years. At least, that's how I would defend it, if I had to.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Pretty sure femto refers to the radius in light years .
At least , that 's how I would defend it , if I had to .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pretty sure femto refers to the radius in light years.
At least, that's how I would defend it, if I had to.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697670</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30698606</id>
	<title>Re:Too many possible holes</title>
	<author>azmodean+1</author>
	<datestamp>1262982720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>A couple of assumptions you're making here:<p>
1. That it will not use GSM encryption</p><p>
2. That it is not encrypting the voip data</p><p>
3. That someone using a cellphone in their home NEEDS encryption to the femtocell</p><p>
 3a. Not being able to make calls is preferable to being able to make unencrypted calls.</p><p>
4. Intercepting unencrypted GSM can be performed "with ease"</p><p>
5. The people doing the interception don't have a backdoor to the GSM network</p><p>
These all seem to me to be pretty poor assumptions.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A couple of assumptions you 're making here : 1 .
That it will not use GSM encryption 2 .
That it is not encrypting the voip data 3 .
That someone using a cellphone in their home NEEDS encryption to the femtocell 3a .
Not being able to make calls is preferable to being able to make unencrypted calls .
4. Intercepting unencrypted GSM can be performed " with ease " 5 .
The people doing the interception do n't have a backdoor to the GSM network These all seem to me to be pretty poor assumptions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A couple of assumptions you're making here:
1.
That it will not use GSM encryption
2.
That it is not encrypting the voip data
3.
That someone using a cellphone in their home NEEDS encryption to the femtocell
 3a.
Not being able to make calls is preferable to being able to make unencrypted calls.
4. Intercepting unencrypted GSM can be performed "with ease"
5.
The people doing the interception don't have a backdoor to the GSM network
These all seem to me to be pretty poor assumptions.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697466</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697504</id>
	<title>Re:MJ is a SCAM folks</title>
	<author>Kungpaoshizi</author>
	<datestamp>1262978040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>na, I was curious about it too, but it's gotta be the best phone type gear I've ever got..

I did have quality issues in the beginning, but after a call to customer service, after the results of their troubleshooting (and my tech skillz), THEY admitted to their server causing the issue, and said "we'll be updating the server soon".

I didn't know what to think.

A couple days later, the issue was fixed, and quality was 100\%.

I stand by this product, and those who say it's a scam, are either r-tarded, or are afraid for their phone company they work for...</htmltext>
<tokenext>na , I was curious about it too , but it 's got ta be the best phone type gear I 've ever got. . I did have quality issues in the beginning , but after a call to customer service , after the results of their troubleshooting ( and my tech skillz ) , THEY admitted to their server causing the issue , and said " we 'll be updating the server soon " .
I did n't know what to think .
A couple days later , the issue was fixed , and quality was 100 \ % .
I stand by this product , and those who say it 's a scam , are either r-tarded , or are afraid for their phone company they work for.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>na, I was curious about it too, but it's gotta be the best phone type gear I've ever got..

I did have quality issues in the beginning, but after a call to customer service, after the results of their troubleshooting (and my tech skillz), THEY admitted to their server causing the issue, and said "we'll be updating the server soon".
I didn't know what to think.
A couple days later, the issue was fixed, and quality was 100\%.
I stand by this product, and those who say it's a scam, are either r-tarded, or are afraid for their phone company they work for...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697330</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30701012</id>
	<title>Sounds like a cell site simulator</title>
	<author>MattGWU</author>
	<datestamp>1262949720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Does anybody know anybody who has one? They don't exactly have to be members of the Better Business Bureau.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does anybody know anybody who has one ?
They do n't exactly have to be members of the Better Business Bureau .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does anybody know anybody who has one?
They don't exactly have to be members of the Better Business Bureau.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697444</id>
	<title>Requires PC</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262977740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><div><p> <i>The current MagicJack is a device about the size of a matchbox with a USB connection and a phone jack. The USB connector plugs into the user's computer, loads software onto it, and uses the computer's power, processor and broadband connection. <b>The femtocell will also use the PC</b>, but it will let users make calls with their cell phones instead of wired phones.</i></p> </htmltext>
<tokenext>The current MagicJack is a device about the size of a matchbox with a USB connection and a phone jack .
The USB connector plugs into the user 's computer , loads software onto it , and uses the computer 's power , processor and broadband connection .
The femtocell will also use the PC , but it will let users make calls with their cell phones instead of wired phones .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> The current MagicJack is a device about the size of a matchbox with a USB connection and a phone jack.
The USB connector plugs into the user's computer, loads software onto it, and uses the computer's power, processor and broadband connection.
The femtocell will also use the PC, but it will let users make calls with their cell phones instead of wired phones. </sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697330</id>
	<title>Re:MJ is a SCAM folks</title>
	<author>mapkinase</author>
	<datestamp>1262977260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=MagicJack++consumer+report+scam&amp;ie=utf-8&amp;oe=utf-8&amp;aq=t&amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&amp;client=firefox-a" title="google.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/search?q=MagicJack++consumer+report+scam&amp;ie=utf-8&amp;oe=utf-8&amp;aq=t&amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&amp;client=firefox-a</a> [google.com]</p><p>Seems like there is a lot of comments in the blogosphere against Magic Jack. I hardly had time to see if it is a campaign against Magic Jack or it is a legid.</p><p>Anybody?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.google.com/search ? q = MagicJack + + consumer + report + scam&amp;ie = utf-8&amp;oe = utf-8&amp;aq = t&amp;rls = org.mozilla : en-US : official&amp;client = firefox-a [ google.com ] Seems like there is a lot of comments in the blogosphere against Magic Jack .
I hardly had time to see if it is a campaign against Magic Jack or it is a legid.Anybody ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.google.com/search?q=MagicJack++consumer+report+scam&amp;ie=utf-8&amp;oe=utf-8&amp;aq=t&amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&amp;client=firefox-a [google.com]Seems like there is a lot of comments in the blogosphere against Magic Jack.
I hardly had time to see if it is a campaign against Magic Jack or it is a legid.Anybody?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697266</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697756</id>
	<title>Re:You newbs, MJ is not a scam...</title>
	<author>kbielefe</author>
	<datestamp>1262978940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Yes it sucks at times when I'm downloading etc, then the quality suffers a little</p></div><p>That's not magic jack's fault.  Look into setting up traffic shaping.  It slows down your web surfing a little while you're talking, but it's nowhere near as noticeable as a loss of audio quality.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes it sucks at times when I 'm downloading etc , then the quality suffers a littleThat 's not magic jack 's fault .
Look into setting up traffic shaping .
It slows down your web surfing a little while you 're talking , but it 's nowhere near as noticeable as a loss of audio quality .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes it sucks at times when I'm downloading etc, then the quality suffers a littleThat's not magic jack's fault.
Look into setting up traffic shaping.
It slows down your web surfing a little while you're talking, but it's nowhere near as noticeable as a loss of audio quality.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697436</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697910</id>
	<title>Re:Is this legal?</title>
	<author>Ironsides</author>
	<datestamp>1262979600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Another issue is that encryption does not work unless you're a carrier and share a secret with the phone's SIM, which means that invariably your calls will be broadcast in the clear when you're using this device.</p></div><p>This is no different than most household wireless phones or blue-tooth headsets for cellphones.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Another issue is that encryption does not work unless you 're a carrier and share a secret with the phone 's SIM , which means that invariably your calls will be broadcast in the clear when you 're using this device.This is no different than most household wireless phones or blue-tooth headsets for cellphones .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Another issue is that encryption does not work unless you're a carrier and share a secret with the phone's SIM, which means that invariably your calls will be broadcast in the clear when you're using this device.This is no different than most household wireless phones or blue-tooth headsets for cellphones.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697304</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697466</id>
	<title>Too many possible holes</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262977860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>While I can see this working great for people out in the middle of nowhere that somehow have great internet and terrible cell service, I can't see this working for the average person to make free calls. For one, this solution would eliminate any encryption meaning your calls are able to be intercepted with ease, another is, I'm not entirely sure that Magic Jack would encrypt your calls going over the internet leading to possible interception there, and then if it was broadcast through another femtocell it could be intercepted through there again. In short, it may be a way for people to save a few bucks, but at the cost of any privacy.</htmltext>
<tokenext>While I can see this working great for people out in the middle of nowhere that somehow have great internet and terrible cell service , I ca n't see this working for the average person to make free calls .
For one , this solution would eliminate any encryption meaning your calls are able to be intercepted with ease , another is , I 'm not entirely sure that Magic Jack would encrypt your calls going over the internet leading to possible interception there , and then if it was broadcast through another femtocell it could be intercepted through there again .
In short , it may be a way for people to save a few bucks , but at the cost of any privacy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While I can see this working great for people out in the middle of nowhere that somehow have great internet and terrible cell service, I can't see this working for the average person to make free calls.
For one, this solution would eliminate any encryption meaning your calls are able to be intercepted with ease, another is, I'm not entirely sure that Magic Jack would encrypt your calls going over the internet leading to possible interception there, and then if it was broadcast through another femtocell it could be intercepted through there again.
In short, it may be a way for people to save a few bucks, but at the cost of any privacy.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30698984</id>
	<title>Re:Is this legal?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262984160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>from the article "He expects most customers to make the calls with <b>old phones that they haven't been using.</b>"</p><p>I read this as meaning it pretends to be a new operator.  Likely means you will get a SIM card along with the USB femto cell.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>from the article " He expects most customers to make the calls with old phones that they have n't been using .
" I read this as meaning it pretends to be a new operator .
Likely means you will get a SIM card along with the USB femto cell .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>from the article "He expects most customers to make the calls with old phones that they haven't been using.
"I read this as meaning it pretends to be a new operator.
Likely means you will get a SIM card along with the USB femto cell.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30697304</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_165231.30700284</id>
	<title>Re:The title is why I dislike English</title>
	<author>azmodean+1</author>
	<datestamp>1262946240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This isn't regular English.  While the language does allow this kind of crap, the only place it is at all common is headlines, which have a long history of trying to be "catchy", which means they throw common usage and understandability out the window in the interest of making the sentence "active" and "brief".<p>Your proposed sentence isn't much better for english speakers, because it has the same underlying problem, using "gate" as a verb isn't normal usage, and I think the correct word is actually "bridges" (yep, another gerund, yay)
</p><p>Writers are told over and over again that "passive voice" is dull and boring, no one wants to read that crap.  The problem is that it is just not natural to write some things in "active voice", so you end up with contrived and hard to understand phrasings.
</p><p>For example, the previous paragraph, but contorted into active voice:
</p><p>Writers learn through constant repetition that "passive voice" makes sentences dull and boring, readers dislike writing of this kind.  This causes problems because "active voice" fails at expressing certain concepts, so writers produce contrived and hard to understand phrasings.
</p><p>Far more contrived a sentence and meanders more, but it's "active", woohoo<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:P
</p><p>The headline of the linked article is just as bad, "MagicJack Harnesses Femtocell for VoIP".
</p><p>It's not just you, I'm a native English speaker and the way headlines are written set my teeth on edge.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is n't regular English .
While the language does allow this kind of crap , the only place it is at all common is headlines , which have a long history of trying to be " catchy " , which means they throw common usage and understandability out the window in the interest of making the sentence " active " and " brief " .Your proposed sentence is n't much better for english speakers , because it has the same underlying problem , using " gate " as a verb is n't normal usage , and I think the correct word is actually " bridges " ( yep , another gerund , yay ) Writers are told over and over again that " passive voice " is dull and boring , no one wants to read that crap .
The problem is that it is just not natural to write some things in " active voice " , so you end up with contrived and hard to understand phrasings .
For example , the previous paragraph , but contorted into active voice : Writers learn through constant repetition that " passive voice " makes sentences dull and boring , readers dislike writing of this kind .
This causes problems because " active voice " fails at expressing certain concepts , so writers produce contrived and hard to understand phrasings .
Far more contrived a sentence and meanders more , but it 's " active " , woohoo : P The headline of the linked article is just as bad , " MagicJack Harnesses Femtocell for VoIP " .
It 's not just you , I 'm a native English speaker and the way headlines are written set my teeth on edge .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This isn't regular English.
While the language does allow this kind of crap, the only place it is at all common is headlines, which have a long history of trying to be "catchy", which means they throw common usage and understandability out the window in the interest of making the sentence "active" and "brief".Your proposed sentence isn't much better for english speakers, because it has the same underlying problem, using "gate" as a verb isn't normal usage, and I think the correct word is actually "bridges" (yep, another gerund, yay)
Writers are told over and over again that "passive voice" is dull and boring, no one wants to read that crap.
The problem is that it is just not natural to write some things in "active voice", so you end up with contrived and hard to understand phrasings.
For example, the previous paragraph, but contorted into active voice:
Writers learn through constant repetition that "passive voice" makes sentences dull and boring, readers dislike writing of this kind.
This causes problems because "active voice" fails at expressing certain concepts, so writers produce contrived and hard to understand phrasings.
Far more contrived a sentence and meanders more, but it's "active", woohoo :P
The headline of the linked article is just as bad, "MagicJack Harnesses Femtocell for VoIP".
It's not just you, I'm a native English speaker and the way headlines are written set my teeth on edge.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Uses licensed frequencies</title>
	<author>tom1974</author>
	<datestamp>1262982120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>According to this <a href="http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5iVJAWp2WTjEYUHNGV8v2KY3JxlVQ/" title="google.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5iVJAWp2WTjEYUHNGV8v2KY3JxlVQ/</a> [google.com] </p><blockquote><div><p> The new magicJack uses, without permission, radio frequencies for which cellular carriers have paid billions of dollars for exclusive licenses.</p></div></blockquote><blockquote><div><p> Borislow said the device is legal because wireless spectrum licences don't extend into the home.</p></div></blockquote><p>And if you come within 2.4 meters of the device, your cell is supposed to register with it automagically.</p><p>If the carriers let this fly, nano cells in licensed band are next and they'll never let this happen.</p></div>
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<tokenext>According to this http : //www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5iVJAWp2WTjEYUHNGV8v2KY3JxlVQ/ [ google.com ] The new magicJack uses , without permission , radio frequencies for which cellular carriers have paid billions of dollars for exclusive licenses .
Borislow said the device is legal because wireless spectrum licences do n't extend into the home.And if you come within 2.4 meters of the device , your cell is supposed to register with it automagically.If the carriers let this fly , nano cells in licensed band are next and they 'll never let this happen .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>According to this http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5iVJAWp2WTjEYUHNGV8v2KY3JxlVQ/ [google.com]  The new magicJack uses, without permission, radio frequencies for which cellular carriers have paid billions of dollars for exclusive licenses.
Borislow said the device is legal because wireless spectrum licences don't extend into the home.And if you come within 2.4 meters of the device, your cell is supposed to register with it automagically.If the carriers let this fly, nano cells in licensed band are next and they'll never let this happen.
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	<title>Re:Does MagicJack Work?</title>
	<author>madsenj37</author>
	<datestamp>1262949300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>True, but whats to stop you from building a dedicated headless pc, say via based for energy reasons, for about $200.  Comcast charges $45 a month for unlimited calling to US and Canada.  With $40 a year subscription first year for magicjack, thats a 6 month payback period (adding in electricity) and lots of savings.  With $20 a month phone service, its a year payback. you must work for the phone company.</htmltext>
<tokenext>True , but whats to stop you from building a dedicated headless pc , say via based for energy reasons , for about $ 200 .
Comcast charges $ 45 a month for unlimited calling to US and Canada .
With $ 40 a year subscription first year for magicjack , thats a 6 month payback period ( adding in electricity ) and lots of savings .
With $ 20 a month phone service , its a year payback .
you must work for the phone company .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>True, but whats to stop you from building a dedicated headless pc, say via based for energy reasons, for about $200.
Comcast charges $45 a month for unlimited calling to US and Canada.
With $40 a year subscription first year for magicjack, thats a 6 month payback period (adding in electricity) and lots of savings.
With $20 a month phone service, its a year payback.
you must work for the phone company.</sentencetext>
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