<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_01_08_0247248</id>
	<title>France Considers 'Pirate Tax' For Online Ads</title>
	<author>samzenpus</author>
	<datestamp>1262943360000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.goodgearguide.com.au/" rel="nofollow">angry tapir</a> writes <i>"A report commissioned by the French Minister of Culture, Fr&#233;d&#233;ric Mitterrand, urges the introduction of a <a href="http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/article/331699">tax on online advertising</a> such as that carried by Google, which would be used to pay the creators of artistic and other works that lose out to online piracy."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>angry tapir writes " A report commissioned by the French Minister of Culture , Fr   d   ric Mitterrand , urges the introduction of a tax on online advertising such as that carried by Google , which would be used to pay the creators of artistic and other works that lose out to online piracy .
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<sentencetext>angry tapir writes "A report commissioned by the French Minister of Culture, Frédéric Mitterrand, urges the introduction of a tax on online advertising such as that carried by Google, which would be used to pay the creators of artistic and other works that lose out to online piracy.
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</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30693340</id>
	<title>How Dumb!</title>
	<author>b4upoo</author>
	<datestamp>1262960280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>          The game is a'foot!  First show concern for a non-problem and then propose a solution that will create more government jobs and stuff the government with more money. Ignore the fact that musical artists as well as others often have higher sales driven by the advertising effect of pirated materials.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The game is a'foot !
First show concern for a non-problem and then propose a solution that will create more government jobs and stuff the government with more money .
Ignore the fact that musical artists as well as others often have higher sales driven by the advertising effect of pirated materials .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>          The game is a'foot!
First show concern for a non-problem and then propose a solution that will create more government jobs and stuff the government with more money.
Ignore the fact that musical artists as well as others often have higher sales driven by the advertising effect of pirated materials.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30693864</id>
	<title>I support this!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262963580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In fact, I think there should be a new organization created to do this for all "free market" economies. It should be called:</p><p><b>Association to Support Starving Recording Artist Products and Economy</b> or</p><p><b>A.S.S.R.A.P.E.</b></p><p>The goal of A.S.S.R.A.P.E will be to encourage economic reforms by taxing all media outlets to provide monies to the recording industry. Of course, once the recording industry companies get that money they will fairly and evenly distribute it to the artists who need and deserve it. No need to monitor them as they are trustworthy and will be fair and impartial to ALL artists. I'm sure once A.S.S.R.A.P.E is created, the public will feel the fairness, comfort and well being provided by a good A.S.S.R.A.P.E.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In fact , I think there should be a new organization created to do this for all " free market " economies .
It should be called : Association to Support Starving Recording Artist Products and Economy orA.S.S.R.A.P.E.The goal of A.S.S.R.A.P.E will be to encourage economic reforms by taxing all media outlets to provide monies to the recording industry .
Of course , once the recording industry companies get that money they will fairly and evenly distribute it to the artists who need and deserve it .
No need to monitor them as they are trustworthy and will be fair and impartial to ALL artists .
I 'm sure once A.S.S.R.A.P.E is created , the public will feel the fairness , comfort and well being provided by a good A.S.S.R.A.P.E .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In fact, I think there should be a new organization created to do this for all "free market" economies.
It should be called:Association to Support Starving Recording Artist Products and Economy orA.S.S.R.A.P.E.The goal of A.S.S.R.A.P.E will be to encourage economic reforms by taxing all media outlets to provide monies to the recording industry.
Of course, once the recording industry companies get that money they will fairly and evenly distribute it to the artists who need and deserve it.
No need to monitor them as they are trustworthy and will be fair and impartial to ALL artists.
I'm sure once A.S.S.R.A.P.E is created, the public will feel the fairness, comfort and well being provided by a good A.S.S.R.A.P.E.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30692678</id>
	<title>National sport</title>
	<author>jean-guy69</author>
	<datestamp>1262953320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is the same country where the president decided to suppress the advertisement on evening public TV channels.
Presumably to help private TV channels to sell their advertising at a higher price.<p>


And they created a new tax on ISP and telecom providers income in order to compensate this loss of income.</p><p>

Tax creation has become a national sport under Sarkozy's regime.</p><p>

The same with the law. When some news story impress the public opinion, they create very specific laws although it would be enough to applicate the existent laws. Depressing.. </p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is the same country where the president decided to suppress the advertisement on evening public TV channels .
Presumably to help private TV channels to sell their advertising at a higher price .
And they created a new tax on ISP and telecom providers income in order to compensate this loss of income .
Tax creation has become a national sport under Sarkozy 's regime .
The same with the law .
When some news story impress the public opinion , they create very specific laws although it would be enough to applicate the existent laws .
Depressing. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is the same country where the president decided to suppress the advertisement on evening public TV channels.
Presumably to help private TV channels to sell their advertising at a higher price.
And they created a new tax on ISP and telecom providers income in order to compensate this loss of income.
Tax creation has become a national sport under Sarkozy's regime.
The same with the law.
When some news story impress the public opinion, they create very specific laws although it would be enough to applicate the existent laws.
Depressing.. </sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30692332</id>
	<title>Not all that awful of an idea</title>
	<author>abigsmurf</author>
	<datestamp>1262948280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Although making it primarily go to media companies is the wrong approach, taxing online ads to help fund cyber-enforcement isn't such a bad idea.
<br> <br>
It'll make "you're funding a dodgy site!" lawsuits more difficult for one thing but the revenue could also be used to fund prosecutions against adverts that mislead consumers. Both (legal) advertisers and consumers would benefit.
<br> <br>
Of course that isn't what the money would probably end up being spent on but meh...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Although making it primarily go to media companies is the wrong approach , taxing online ads to help fund cyber-enforcement is n't such a bad idea .
It 'll make " you 're funding a dodgy site !
" lawsuits more difficult for one thing but the revenue could also be used to fund prosecutions against adverts that mislead consumers .
Both ( legal ) advertisers and consumers would benefit .
Of course that is n't what the money would probably end up being spent on but meh.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Although making it primarily go to media companies is the wrong approach, taxing online ads to help fund cyber-enforcement isn't such a bad idea.
It'll make "you're funding a dodgy site!
" lawsuits more difficult for one thing but the revenue could also be used to fund prosecutions against adverts that mislead consumers.
Both (legal) advertisers and consumers would benefit.
Of course that isn't what the money would probably end up being spent on but meh...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30692860</id>
	<title>I demand my cut</title>
	<author>IndustrialComplex</author>
	<datestamp>1262955600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Every time a significant portion of my posts is quoted, that is a slight, but non-zero infringment on my creative works.</p><p>Therefore, I demand that forum posts be included as part of the metric for determining who gets paid.  This demand is every bit as cromulent as the demand to extract money from an unrelated party to pay for a supposed violation on a subset of the total creative works that are actually being infringed upon.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Every time a significant portion of my posts is quoted , that is a slight , but non-zero infringment on my creative works.Therefore , I demand that forum posts be included as part of the metric for determining who gets paid .
This demand is every bit as cromulent as the demand to extract money from an unrelated party to pay for a supposed violation on a subset of the total creative works that are actually being infringed upon .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Every time a significant portion of my posts is quoted, that is a slight, but non-zero infringment on my creative works.Therefore, I demand that forum posts be included as part of the metric for determining who gets paid.
This demand is every bit as cromulent as the demand to extract money from an unrelated party to pay for a supposed violation on a subset of the total creative works that are actually being infringed upon.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30692700</id>
	<title>Re:The old Motto:</title>
	<author>sirlark</author>
	<datestamp>1262953560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ah, someone else who uses adblock<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p><p>Try disabling adblock on a torrent site or other 'place of badness' on 'The Internet'... then after you have, clean your disk of all the malware, in fact wipe your hard drive and install a fresh system, in fact: just nuke it from orbit, it's the only way to be sure</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ah , someone else who uses adblock : - ) Try disabling adblock on a torrent site or other 'place of badness ' on 'The Internet'... then after you have , clean your disk of all the malware , in fact wipe your hard drive and install a fresh system , in fact : just nuke it from orbit , it 's the only way to be sure</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ah, someone else who uses adblock :-)Try disabling adblock on a torrent site or other 'place of badness' on 'The Internet'... then after you have, clean your disk of all the malware, in fact wipe your hard drive and install a fresh system, in fact: just nuke it from orbit, it's the only way to be sure</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30692602</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30692664</id>
	<title>Not a smart move</title>
	<author>DaemonKnightVS</author>
	<datestamp>1262953200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wonder if stuff like this will affect how google, ms, yahoo etc do business in france? Maybe they'll have less incentive to have any offices there? Any newcomers into the field would definitely would view extra taxes as a turn off from having an office in france!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wonder if stuff like this will affect how google , ms , yahoo etc do business in france ?
Maybe they 'll have less incentive to have any offices there ?
Any newcomers into the field would definitely would view extra taxes as a turn off from having an office in france !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wonder if stuff like this will affect how google, ms, yahoo etc do business in france?
Maybe they'll have less incentive to have any offices there?
Any newcomers into the field would definitely would view extra taxes as a turn off from having an office in france!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30692354</id>
	<title>So Google will support AdBlock+ ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262948580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... at least for users in France? I sincerely hope that this tax flies. The absurdity it creates will be fun to watch.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... at least for users in France ?
I sincerely hope that this tax flies .
The absurdity it creates will be fun to watch .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... at least for users in France?
I sincerely hope that this tax flies.
The absurdity it creates will be fun to watch.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30692540</id>
	<title>Re:The old Motto:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262950920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I run an ad company that might be minuscule compared to google/yahoo, but does serve text ads worldwide, with web front-ends in America and UK.</p><p>Our office, back-end and banking are in Asia. Why would I give France the time of day?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I run an ad company that might be minuscule compared to google/yahoo , but does serve text ads worldwide , with web front-ends in America and UK.Our office , back-end and banking are in Asia .
Why would I give France the time of day ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I run an ad company that might be minuscule compared to google/yahoo, but does serve text ads worldwide, with web front-ends in America and UK.Our office, back-end and banking are in Asia.
Why would I give France the time of day?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30692232</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30693674</id>
	<title>The simple solution is ...</title>
	<author>Skapare</author>
	<datestamp>1262962620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... just don't show ads to users in France.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... just do n't show ads to users in France .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... just don't show ads to users in France.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30697796</id>
	<title>Simple fix.</title>
	<author>sourICE</author>
	<datestamp>1262979180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <b>Google should just blacklist all IPs from France.</b> </p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Google should just blacklist all IPs from France .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Google should just blacklist all IPs from France. </sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30700538</id>
	<title>Re:Robin's Hood is back</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262947500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Robin Hood is nowhere to be found and thinking he is, is nothing more than wishful thinking.  If you actually read the story of Robin Hood, you'll find out that the quote, "Steal from the rich and give to the poor" isn't quite accurate.  Robin Hood, actually stole from a corrupt government that was overtaxing the people and gave the money back to the people who were being exploited by this government.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Robin Hood is nowhere to be found and thinking he is , is nothing more than wishful thinking .
If you actually read the story of Robin Hood , you 'll find out that the quote , " Steal from the rich and give to the poor " is n't quite accurate .
Robin Hood , actually stole from a corrupt government that was overtaxing the people and gave the money back to the people who were being exploited by this government .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Robin Hood is nowhere to be found and thinking he is, is nothing more than wishful thinking.
If you actually read the story of Robin Hood, you'll find out that the quote, "Steal from the rich and give to the poor" isn't quite accurate.
Robin Hood, actually stole from a corrupt government that was overtaxing the people and gave the money back to the people who were being exploited by this government.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30692482</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30696052</id>
	<title>Time to update your .htaccess files...</title>
	<author>argent</author>
	<datestamp>1262972100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Deny from *.fr</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Deny from * .fr</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Deny from *.fr</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30695812</id>
	<title>European dataprotection</title>
	<author>sTeF</author>
	<datestamp>1262971260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This move might also result in google moving their servers back to the usa from europe. Causing that the european data protection laws do not apply anymore to the data on those servers.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This move might also result in google moving their servers back to the usa from europe .
Causing that the european data protection laws do not apply anymore to the data on those servers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This move might also result in google moving their servers back to the usa from europe.
Causing that the european data protection laws do not apply anymore to the data on those servers.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30692232</id>
	<title>The old Motto:</title>
	<author>rockclimber</author>
	<datestamp>1262947200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Tax whatever you cannot understand.

The question is: would that legalize downloading / Sharing since the artists are supposed to get payed?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Tax whatever you can not understand .
The question is : would that legalize downloading / Sharing since the artists are supposed to get payed ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tax whatever you cannot understand.
The question is: would that legalize downloading / Sharing since the artists are supposed to get payed?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30692820</id>
	<title>Is it for the artists?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262955180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The key question is if this tax will in fact be used to help the artists or will it be yet another way for media conglomerates to suck on the government's tit while the artist itself, the creative mind responsible for creating a work of art, will continue to get the shaft and continue to be relegated as simple temporary worker, receiving nothing more than a symbolic compensation for a one-off job.  This is particularly sickening due to the fact that media conglomerates, which are thriving, are using their power and influence to not only avoid compensating any artist but also to screw the entire world out of their culture and their rights to access works of art without being subjected to the whims of a totalitarian gatekeeper.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The key question is if this tax will in fact be used to help the artists or will it be yet another way for media conglomerates to suck on the government 's tit while the artist itself , the creative mind responsible for creating a work of art , will continue to get the shaft and continue to be relegated as simple temporary worker , receiving nothing more than a symbolic compensation for a one-off job .
This is particularly sickening due to the fact that media conglomerates , which are thriving , are using their power and influence to not only avoid compensating any artist but also to screw the entire world out of their culture and their rights to access works of art without being subjected to the whims of a totalitarian gatekeeper .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The key question is if this tax will in fact be used to help the artists or will it be yet another way for media conglomerates to suck on the government's tit while the artist itself, the creative mind responsible for creating a work of art, will continue to get the shaft and continue to be relegated as simple temporary worker, receiving nothing more than a symbolic compensation for a one-off job.
This is particularly sickening due to the fact that media conglomerates, which are thriving, are using their power and influence to not only avoid compensating any artist but also to screw the entire world out of their culture and their rights to access works of art without being subjected to the whims of a totalitarian gatekeeper.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30694558</id>
	<title>Re:Sarkozy's reichwing partei</title>
	<author>Silentknyght</author>
	<datestamp>1262966880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> "Great" minds "think" alike.</p></div><p>You forgot to also put "minds" in quotes, there, too.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Great " minds " think " alike.You forgot to also put " minds " in quotes , there , too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> "Great" minds "think" alike.You forgot to also put "minds" in quotes, there, too.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30692606</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30693744</id>
	<title>Re:The old Motto:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262962980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Of course not, as was demonstrated by our tax on blank CD/DVDs.</i></p><p>There was at least SOME relation between blank media and copying music/video, since once upon a time hard disks were very tiny, and you would put the copies on cassette tape/CD/DVD.</p><p>There is no relation between online advertising &amp; copying music/video.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Of course not , as was demonstrated by our tax on blank CD/DVDs.There was at least SOME relation between blank media and copying music/video , since once upon a time hard disks were very tiny , and you would put the copies on cassette tape/CD/DVD.There is no relation between online advertising &amp; copying music/video .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of course not, as was demonstrated by our tax on blank CD/DVDs.There was at least SOME relation between blank media and copying music/video, since once upon a time hard disks were very tiny, and you would put the copies on cassette tape/CD/DVD.There is no relation between online advertising &amp; copying music/video.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30692536</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30693780</id>
	<title>Who gets the tax money?</title>
	<author>fabrica64</author>
	<datestamp>1262963100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>How would they know which artist is "pirated" and how to calculate the share of the tax money for each "pirated" artist?

In Italy we have such a tax on CD and DVD, and guess who gets the money? Certainly not the artists...</htmltext>
<tokenext>How would they know which artist is " pirated " and how to calculate the share of the tax money for each " pirated " artist ?
In Italy we have such a tax on CD and DVD , and guess who gets the money ?
Certainly not the artists.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How would they know which artist is "pirated" and how to calculate the share of the tax money for each "pirated" artist?
In Italy we have such a tax on CD and DVD, and guess who gets the money?
Certainly not the artists...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30692386</id>
	<title>Completely unrelated...</title>
	<author>geckipede</author>
	<datestamp>1262949060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>My perpetual motion business is doing very badly. I propose that in order to maintain this valuable source of employment, schools, laboratories, universities and libraries are all taxed. They keep discouraging my investors...</htmltext>
<tokenext>My perpetual motion business is doing very badly .
I propose that in order to maintain this valuable source of employment , schools , laboratories , universities and libraries are all taxed .
They keep discouraging my investors.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My perpetual motion business is doing very badly.
I propose that in order to maintain this valuable source of employment, schools, laboratories, universities and libraries are all taxed.
They keep discouraging my investors...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30692602</id>
	<title>Re:The old Motto:</title>
	<author>purpledinoz</author>
	<datestamp>1262952120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What I don't understand is: What is the connection between online advertising and illegal downloading of media? Those are completely unrelated. Aren't they?</htmltext>
<tokenext>What I do n't understand is : What is the connection between online advertising and illegal downloading of media ?
Those are completely unrelated .
Are n't they ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What I don't understand is: What is the connection between online advertising and illegal downloading of media?
Those are completely unrelated.
Aren't they?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30692232</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30695382</id>
	<title>Starving MAFIAA or starving marketer, hmmm...</title>
	<author>noidentity</author>
	<datestamp>1262969820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>On the one hand, if they tax online ads, it will hurt the MAFIAA. On the other hand, if they do, it will hurt marketers. This is a tough call. Can't we just put them both into an arena and let them fight to the death?</htmltext>
<tokenext>On the one hand , if they tax online ads , it will hurt the MAFIAA .
On the other hand , if they do , it will hurt marketers .
This is a tough call .
Ca n't we just put them both into an arena and let them fight to the death ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On the one hand, if they tax online ads, it will hurt the MAFIAA.
On the other hand, if they do, it will hurt marketers.
This is a tough call.
Can't we just put them both into an arena and let them fight to the death?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30692316</id>
	<title>LMAO</title>
	<author>Rivalz</author>
	<datestamp>1262948160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>"The report was written by Patrick Zelnik, Guillaume Cerutti and Jacques Toubon. Zelnik is president of Impala, a network of independent record companies."


They didn't even bother to get a 3rd party to write this toilet paper of a report.
Isn't this basically like making the average tax payer insure a business against the possible theft of an intangible object?</htmltext>
<tokenext>" The report was written by Patrick Zelnik , Guillaume Cerutti and Jacques Toubon .
Zelnik is president of Impala , a network of independent record companies .
" They did n't even bother to get a 3rd party to write this toilet paper of a report .
Is n't this basically like making the average tax payer insure a business against the possible theft of an intangible object ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"The report was written by Patrick Zelnik, Guillaume Cerutti and Jacques Toubon.
Zelnik is president of Impala, a network of independent record companies.
"


They didn't even bother to get a 3rd party to write this toilet paper of a report.
Isn't this basically like making the average tax payer insure a business against the possible theft of an intangible object?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30692362</id>
	<title>Anonymous coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262948700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>this stupid french goverment know one thing, tax tax tax, that all they know.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>this stupid french goverment know one thing , tax tax tax , that all they know .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>this stupid french goverment know one thing, tax tax tax, that all they know.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30694768</id>
	<title>Piracy happens for a reason.</title>
	<author>Descartes123</author>
	<datestamp>1262967660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>I get tired of the focus on music and video.  Piracy takes place in all industries and is something everyone else just has to deal with.<br> <br>

Consider any company that has invested millions of dollars in building a brand or educating the consumer on their product (let alone the R&amp;D) and along comes someone who decides to market a knock-off.  The knock-off is pirating the marketing of the original company.  The MP3 is a knock-off of the original media.  Sometimes the knock-off designer purse or golf club is exactly the same material and quality as the original.  It's the same issue.<br> <br>

I have spent millions marketing products before and have had to deal with 'copy' products.  No one has offered to implement a tax and reimburse me for my losses.<br> <br>

I hate it when it happens.  I could make considerably more money if it didn't happen.  In reality though the fact that it happens is actually in the consumer's best interests.  If I spend lavishly on marketing, that doesn't improve the quality of the product the end user buys, it merely means more people will pay more money for the same product.  The piracy factor puts a cap on the marketing dollars I spend on a product and it puts a cap on the premium I can charge.  If I spend lavishly on marketing or make my profit margin too high, the piracy gets worse.  The piracy forces me to cap my marketing costs and profit margin and keeps in check the end price paid by the consumer.  I'm forced to provide a product of 'value' where the margins between manufactured cost and sell price aren't too high to invite pirates and that pressure actually works in the consumers best interest.<br> <br>

Want to end music piracy?  Drop the price of a download from $0.99 to $0.25 or $0.10 even.  The increase in volume will make up for the reduced margins.  50 Million sales at $0.25 is still some good revenuce for a single track.  Rampant piracy is symptomatic of consumer gouging.  If these forces make all other industries respect consumer value, why should the music industry be any different?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I get tired of the focus on music and video .
Piracy takes place in all industries and is something everyone else just has to deal with .
Consider any company that has invested millions of dollars in building a brand or educating the consumer on their product ( let alone the R&amp;D ) and along comes someone who decides to market a knock-off .
The knock-off is pirating the marketing of the original company .
The MP3 is a knock-off of the original media .
Sometimes the knock-off designer purse or golf club is exactly the same material and quality as the original .
It 's the same issue .
I have spent millions marketing products before and have had to deal with 'copy ' products .
No one has offered to implement a tax and reimburse me for my losses .
I hate it when it happens .
I could make considerably more money if it did n't happen .
In reality though the fact that it happens is actually in the consumer 's best interests .
If I spend lavishly on marketing , that does n't improve the quality of the product the end user buys , it merely means more people will pay more money for the same product .
The piracy factor puts a cap on the marketing dollars I spend on a product and it puts a cap on the premium I can charge .
If I spend lavishly on marketing or make my profit margin too high , the piracy gets worse .
The piracy forces me to cap my marketing costs and profit margin and keeps in check the end price paid by the consumer .
I 'm forced to provide a product of 'value ' where the margins between manufactured cost and sell price are n't too high to invite pirates and that pressure actually works in the consumers best interest .
Want to end music piracy ?
Drop the price of a download from $ 0.99 to $ 0.25 or $ 0.10 even .
The increase in volume will make up for the reduced margins .
50 Million sales at $ 0.25 is still some good revenuce for a single track .
Rampant piracy is symptomatic of consumer gouging .
If these forces make all other industries respect consumer value , why should the music industry be any different ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I get tired of the focus on music and video.
Piracy takes place in all industries and is something everyone else just has to deal with.
Consider any company that has invested millions of dollars in building a brand or educating the consumer on their product (let alone the R&amp;D) and along comes someone who decides to market a knock-off.
The knock-off is pirating the marketing of the original company.
The MP3 is a knock-off of the original media.
Sometimes the knock-off designer purse or golf club is exactly the same material and quality as the original.
It's the same issue.
I have spent millions marketing products before and have had to deal with 'copy' products.
No one has offered to implement a tax and reimburse me for my losses.
I hate it when it happens.
I could make considerably more money if it didn't happen.
In reality though the fact that it happens is actually in the consumer's best interests.
If I spend lavishly on marketing, that doesn't improve the quality of the product the end user buys, it merely means more people will pay more money for the same product.
The piracy factor puts a cap on the marketing dollars I spend on a product and it puts a cap on the premium I can charge.
If I spend lavishly on marketing or make my profit margin too high, the piracy gets worse.
The piracy forces me to cap my marketing costs and profit margin and keeps in check the end price paid by the consumer.
I'm forced to provide a product of 'value' where the margins between manufactured cost and sell price aren't too high to invite pirates and that pressure actually works in the consumers best interest.
Want to end music piracy?
Drop the price of a download from $0.99 to $0.25 or $0.10 even.
The increase in volume will make up for the reduced margins.
50 Million sales at $0.25 is still some good revenuce for a single track.
Rampant piracy is symptomatic of consumer gouging.
If these forces make all other industries respect consumer value, why should the music industry be any different?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30692782</id>
	<title>Re:Robin's Hood is back</title>
	<author>IBBoard</author>
	<datestamp>1262954580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or how about the laws about dodgy adverts/making money from illegal business are enforced and Google et al are fined for allowing their adverts to be used on dodgy websites (giving them a little bit of slack to at least catch it first)? That way no-one is unfairly taxed (i.e. advertisers who are more picky about adverts), and the laws that <i>already exist</i> are actually enforced.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or how about the laws about dodgy adverts/making money from illegal business are enforced and Google et al are fined for allowing their adverts to be used on dodgy websites ( giving them a little bit of slack to at least catch it first ) ?
That way no-one is unfairly taxed ( i.e .
advertisers who are more picky about adverts ) , and the laws that already exist are actually enforced .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or how about the laws about dodgy adverts/making money from illegal business are enforced and Google et al are fined for allowing their adverts to be used on dodgy websites (giving them a little bit of slack to at least catch it first)?
That way no-one is unfairly taxed (i.e.
advertisers who are more picky about adverts), and the laws that already exist are actually enforced.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30692482</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30692536</id>
	<title>Re:The old Motto:</title>
	<author>Yvanhoe</author>
	<datestamp>1262950800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Of course not, as was demonstrated by our tax on blank CD/DVDs.<br>
I think piracy is not the issue here. Sarkozy has tried to take control of most media in France. Now Internet he doesn't understand and he definitely doesn't like. Sounds like his mindset to attack the biggest visible gun in the "field" to try to gain some control : Google. But this bullet is a miss, like most French IT legislation this will be badly implemented and never used in court.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Of course not , as was demonstrated by our tax on blank CD/DVDs .
I think piracy is not the issue here .
Sarkozy has tried to take control of most media in France .
Now Internet he does n't understand and he definitely does n't like .
Sounds like his mindset to attack the biggest visible gun in the " field " to try to gain some control : Google .
But this bullet is a miss , like most French IT legislation this will be badly implemented and never used in court .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of course not, as was demonstrated by our tax on blank CD/DVDs.
I think piracy is not the issue here.
Sarkozy has tried to take control of most media in France.
Now Internet he doesn't understand and he definitely doesn't like.
Sounds like his mindset to attack the biggest visible gun in the "field" to try to gain some control : Google.
But this bullet is a miss, like most French IT legislation this will be badly implemented and never used in court.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30692232</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30693930</id>
	<title>Re:Robin's Hood is back</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262964000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>and don't forget fake peins extensions - anyone with a real penis should get a cut (of the tax that is, not the penis, or even the fake penis, or the extension).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>and do n't forget fake peins extensions - anyone with a real penis should get a cut ( of the tax that is , not the penis , or even the fake penis , or the extension ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and don't forget fake peins extensions - anyone with a real penis should get a cut (of the tax that is, not the penis, or even the fake penis, or the extension).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30692600</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30696388</id>
	<title>Re:Completely unrelated...</title>
	<author>colonelquesadilla</author>
	<datestamp>1262973420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>My perpetual motion business is doing fine.  I live off the grid and regularly receive checks from Big Oil as hush money to cover up my invention.</htmltext>
<tokenext>My perpetual motion business is doing fine .
I live off the grid and regularly receive checks from Big Oil as hush money to cover up my invention .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My perpetual motion business is doing fine.
I live off the grid and regularly receive checks from Big Oil as hush money to cover up my invention.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30692386</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30692502</id>
	<title>Profit!!!!</title>
	<author>benwiggy</author>
	<datestamp>1262950380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1. Write a few cheesy pop tunes on my own label.</p><p>2. Complain to the French Govt. that no-one is buying them -- no doubt because of all the pirates.</p><p>3. Wait for cheque.</p><p>I look forward to this as a fantastic money-making opportunity.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 .
Write a few cheesy pop tunes on my own label.2 .
Complain to the French Govt .
that no-one is buying them -- no doubt because of all the pirates.3 .
Wait for cheque.I look forward to this as a fantastic money-making opportunity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1.
Write a few cheesy pop tunes on my own label.2.
Complain to the French Govt.
that no-one is buying them -- no doubt because of all the pirates.3.
Wait for cheque.I look forward to this as a fantastic money-making opportunity.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30692548</id>
	<title>Re:The old Motto:</title>
	<author>ShakaUVM</author>
	<datestamp>1262950980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;&gt;The question is: would that legalize downloading / Sharing since the artists are supposed to get payed?</p><p>Of course not.</p><p>And would artists actually see any of this money?</p><p>Of course not.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; &gt; The question is : would that legalize downloading / Sharing since the artists are supposed to get payed ? Of course not.And would artists actually see any of this money ? Of course not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;&gt;The question is: would that legalize downloading / Sharing since the artists are supposed to get payed?Of course not.And would artists actually see any of this money?Of course not.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30692232</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30692600</id>
	<title>Re:Robin's Hood is back</title>
	<author>Spad</author>
	<datestamp>1262952000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But what about the watchmakers? After all, I get loads of spam through my Google Mail account offering counterfeit designer watches for sale, so surely some of this tax should go to them. Then there are all the other designer goods; clothes, handbags, perfume - and pirated software, that needs to be accounted for as well. Not to mention the banks, they have suffered losses due to phishing sites that are often made available through paid Google adverts, so they need a cut as well...</p><p>You see where I'm going with this - piracy and the death of the creative arts may be a current hot topic, but (as much as I hate to use the phrase) it's a slippery slope if you allow the government to levy punative taxes on successful companies in order to "compensate" those who haven't found a way to stay profitable (or, in actuality, are extremely profitable, but not as profitable as they *want* to be, which is certainly the case with the big music and movie labels).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But what about the watchmakers ?
After all , I get loads of spam through my Google Mail account offering counterfeit designer watches for sale , so surely some of this tax should go to them .
Then there are all the other designer goods ; clothes , handbags , perfume - and pirated software , that needs to be accounted for as well .
Not to mention the banks , they have suffered losses due to phishing sites that are often made available through paid Google adverts , so they need a cut as well...You see where I 'm going with this - piracy and the death of the creative arts may be a current hot topic , but ( as much as I hate to use the phrase ) it 's a slippery slope if you allow the government to levy punative taxes on successful companies in order to " compensate " those who have n't found a way to stay profitable ( or , in actuality , are extremely profitable , but not as profitable as they * want * to be , which is certainly the case with the big music and movie labels ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But what about the watchmakers?
After all, I get loads of spam through my Google Mail account offering counterfeit designer watches for sale, so surely some of this tax should go to them.
Then there are all the other designer goods; clothes, handbags, perfume - and pirated software, that needs to be accounted for as well.
Not to mention the banks, they have suffered losses due to phishing sites that are often made available through paid Google adverts, so they need a cut as well...You see where I'm going with this - piracy and the death of the creative arts may be a current hot topic, but (as much as I hate to use the phrase) it's a slippery slope if you allow the government to levy punative taxes on successful companies in order to "compensate" those who haven't found a way to stay profitable (or, in actuality, are extremely profitable, but not as profitable as they *want* to be, which is certainly the case with the big music and movie labels).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30692482</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30693846</id>
	<title>Re:The old Motto:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262963460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Quit slowing down our internet!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Quit slowing down our internet !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Quit slowing down our internet!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30692540</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30692768</id>
	<title>Here's an idea.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262954400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How about putting online thieves in f#\%&amp;-me-in-the-a## prison??? Maybe then people will stop.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How about putting online thieves in f # \ % &amp;-me-in-the-a # # prison ? ? ?
Maybe then people will stop .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about putting online thieves in f#\%&amp;-me-in-the-a## prison???
Maybe then people will stop.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30692650</id>
	<title>there's nothing lost</title>
	<author>circletimessquare</author>
	<datestamp>1262953080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>the idea that distributors (oh, you thought this was about artists?) need to permanently derive an income because they once had an oligopoly is madness. no, they will die away, and artists will make cash directly from their fans via ancillary revenues (concerts, ads, endorsements, personalized content, etc)</p><p>recorded music will serve the same function that free radio once did in a previous era. a previous era that is dead. its dead, you do understand that, right?</p><p>furthermore, there's no law or enforcement that is needed for this reality to come into existence. it will just happen. its already happened. it will happen, in fact, no matter how many laws or how many billions the dying distributors spend on legal enforcement and padding legislators pockets to stop it from happening. idiots: laws bend to technological change, technological change does not bend to laws. study your damn history, and don't for a minute continue to believe your thousands of lawyers can defeat millions of media hungry, technologically savvy and most importantly POOR teenagers. deal with it</p><p>the world is changing. you have no ability to stop it. all that is left for you to do is understand that the old economic model is dead, and accept it. or don't, and waste you're time and money on a lost cause. morons</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>the idea that distributors ( oh , you thought this was about artists ?
) need to permanently derive an income because they once had an oligopoly is madness .
no , they will die away , and artists will make cash directly from their fans via ancillary revenues ( concerts , ads , endorsements , personalized content , etc ) recorded music will serve the same function that free radio once did in a previous era .
a previous era that is dead .
its dead , you do understand that , right ? furthermore , there 's no law or enforcement that is needed for this reality to come into existence .
it will just happen .
its already happened .
it will happen , in fact , no matter how many laws or how many billions the dying distributors spend on legal enforcement and padding legislators pockets to stop it from happening .
idiots : laws bend to technological change , technological change does not bend to laws .
study your damn history , and do n't for a minute continue to believe your thousands of lawyers can defeat millions of media hungry , technologically savvy and most importantly POOR teenagers .
deal with itthe world is changing .
you have no ability to stop it .
all that is left for you to do is understand that the old economic model is dead , and accept it .
or do n't , and waste you 're time and money on a lost cause .
morons</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the idea that distributors (oh, you thought this was about artists?
) need to permanently derive an income because they once had an oligopoly is madness.
no, they will die away, and artists will make cash directly from their fans via ancillary revenues (concerts, ads, endorsements, personalized content, etc)recorded music will serve the same function that free radio once did in a previous era.
a previous era that is dead.
its dead, you do understand that, right?furthermore, there's no law or enforcement that is needed for this reality to come into existence.
it will just happen.
its already happened.
it will happen, in fact, no matter how many laws or how many billions the dying distributors spend on legal enforcement and padding legislators pockets to stop it from happening.
idiots: laws bend to technological change, technological change does not bend to laws.
study your damn history, and don't for a minute continue to believe your thousands of lawyers can defeat millions of media hungry, technologically savvy and most importantly POOR teenagers.
deal with itthe world is changing.
you have no ability to stop it.
all that is left for you to do is understand that the old economic model is dead, and accept it.
or don't, and waste you're time and money on a lost cause.
morons</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30692350</id>
	<title>Sorry for such a redundant comment but</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262948520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is this for real? I really cannot believe anyone could be seriously proposing this. You cannot subsidise a business that is more susceptible to crime with a business that is less susceptible. Should car dealerships be taxed to help other retailers that are victims of shop lifting because the car dealers aren't?<br>This is probably the most ridiculous idea I've heard from a politician in a long while, and that is no mean feat.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is this for real ?
I really can not believe anyone could be seriously proposing this .
You can not subsidise a business that is more susceptible to crime with a business that is less susceptible .
Should car dealerships be taxed to help other retailers that are victims of shop lifting because the car dealers are n't ? This is probably the most ridiculous idea I 've heard from a politician in a long while , and that is no mean feat .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is this for real?
I really cannot believe anyone could be seriously proposing this.
You cannot subsidise a business that is more susceptible to crime with a business that is less susceptible.
Should car dealerships be taxed to help other retailers that are victims of shop lifting because the car dealers aren't?This is probably the most ridiculous idea I've heard from a politician in a long while, and that is no mean feat.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30692426</id>
	<title>The French Minister of Culture</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262949480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>sucks dick... and charges for it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>sucks dick... and charges for it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>sucks dick... and charges for it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30692608</id>
	<title>Plus will be censored on const./EU grounds</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262952180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Most of the measures they want to implement are simply unconstitutional.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Most of the measures they want to implement are simply unconstitutional .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most of the measures they want to implement are simply unconstitutional.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30692536</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30694448</id>
	<title>Even more LUNATIC than normal !</title>
	<author>redelm</author>
	<datestamp>1262966340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... wasen't it a frenchman [Flaubert?] who said "The art of taxation is plucking the goose with the least amount of squawking?"  So taxes should make sense if they are to be effective.</p><p>Taxing on-line ads would do nothing to impede piracy.  Less than a bandwidth tax.  It would be ultimately paid for by the customers of online advertisers, most a tax on online products and services.  I have no doubt the French govt would like to tax these to save their bricks-and-mortar over whom they have more control.  Onlines mostly won't care, raise prices or go elsewhere and it is just the French people who will pay for the [desired?] ossification.</p><p>Oh<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... never mind.  Another frenchman said "Never interrupt your enemy while he is making a mistake"  [Napoleon 1er].</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... wase n't it a frenchman [ Flaubert ?
] who said " The art of taxation is plucking the goose with the least amount of squawking ?
" So taxes should make sense if they are to be effective.Taxing on-line ads would do nothing to impede piracy .
Less than a bandwidth tax .
It would be ultimately paid for by the customers of online advertisers , most a tax on online products and services .
I have no doubt the French govt would like to tax these to save their bricks-and-mortar over whom they have more control .
Onlines mostly wo n't care , raise prices or go elsewhere and it is just the French people who will pay for the [ desired ?
] ossification.Oh ... never mind .
Another frenchman said " Never interrupt your enemy while he is making a mistake " [ Napoleon 1er ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... wasen't it a frenchman [Flaubert?
] who said "The art of taxation is plucking the goose with the least amount of squawking?
"  So taxes should make sense if they are to be effective.Taxing on-line ads would do nothing to impede piracy.
Less than a bandwidth tax.
It would be ultimately paid for by the customers of online advertisers, most a tax on online products and services.
I have no doubt the French govt would like to tax these to save their bricks-and-mortar over whom they have more control.
Onlines mostly won't care, raise prices or go elsewhere and it is just the French people who will pay for the [desired?
] ossification.Oh ... never mind.
Another frenchman said "Never interrupt your enemy while he is making a mistake"  [Napoleon 1er].</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30692452</id>
	<title>how internet providers made their living</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262949840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>bandwith needed to p2p movies, music, and more... selling hard disk been the same.. on one hand they sell more, top noch internet connection, at the expend of those who make movies, music, books and more.. that's the whole thing, at one point they could have promoted themselves.. MORE MOVIES, MUSIC FOR FREE in here.. to gain more customers.. they can't do it, legally, but for real, that was what they did, making more bandwidth available to new customers..<br>that's the reality.. the next thing to happen, is market to stabilize, when everyone will get its share, and all to make an unsaid agreement, not to try grab customers of others, and at time they will definitly go the anti-piracy way.. now when you just think.. one could make billions with a "song".. and on the other hand it is reallly difficult to make "billions" with new devices.. not to tell.. about the big media players.. promoting for years, who they wanted to promote and not what the public wanted... like.. they choosed their singer.. put money behind and sold it.. by now, with piracy, they've been forced to play nicely, and the other way around.. promote singers people choose..<br>much to say.. but so much hypocrisis.. i dont mind to see artist make more concert to earn a living.. because i am not sure, i want big money go for "songs".. but new devices, invention, something that changes the world instead..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>bandwith needed to p2p movies , music , and more... selling hard disk been the same.. on one hand they sell more , top noch internet connection , at the expend of those who make movies , music , books and more.. that 's the whole thing , at one point they could have promoted themselves.. MORE MOVIES , MUSIC FOR FREE in here.. to gain more customers.. they ca n't do it , legally , but for real , that was what they did , making more bandwidth available to new customers..that 's the reality.. the next thing to happen , is market to stabilize , when everyone will get its share , and all to make an unsaid agreement , not to try grab customers of others , and at time they will definitly go the anti-piracy way.. now when you just think.. one could make billions with a " song " .. and on the other hand it is reallly difficult to make " billions " with new devices.. not to tell.. about the big media players.. promoting for years , who they wanted to promote and not what the public wanted... like.. they choosed their singer.. put money behind and sold it.. by now , with piracy , they 've been forced to play nicely , and the other way around.. promote singers people choose..much to say.. but so much hypocrisis.. i dont mind to see artist make more concert to earn a living.. because i am not sure , i want big money go for " songs " .. but new devices , invention , something that changes the world instead. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>bandwith needed to p2p movies, music, and more... selling hard disk been the same.. on one hand they sell more, top noch internet connection, at the expend of those who make movies, music, books and more.. that's the whole thing, at one point they could have promoted themselves.. MORE MOVIES, MUSIC FOR FREE in here.. to gain more customers.. they can't do it, legally, but for real, that was what they did, making more bandwidth available to new customers..that's the reality.. the next thing to happen, is market to stabilize, when everyone will get its share, and all to make an unsaid agreement, not to try grab customers of others, and at time they will definitly go the anti-piracy way.. now when you just think.. one could make billions with a "song".. and on the other hand it is reallly difficult to make "billions" with new devices.. not to tell.. about the big media players.. promoting for years, who they wanted to promote and not what the public wanted... like.. they choosed their singer.. put money behind and sold it.. by now, with piracy, they've been forced to play nicely, and the other way around.. promote singers people choose..much to say.. but so much hypocrisis.. i dont mind to see artist make more concert to earn a living.. because i am not sure, i want big money go for "songs".. but new devices, invention, something that changes the world instead..</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30693428</id>
	<title>No one is "losing out"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262961060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The "losing out" argument is a canard, floated by folks who believe they inherently <i>deserve</i> greater attention than they are getting.  The answer is simple:</p><p>Fuck em.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The " losing out " argument is a canard , floated by folks who believe they inherently deserve greater attention than they are getting .
The answer is simple : Fuck em .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The "losing out" argument is a canard, floated by folks who believe they inherently deserve greater attention than they are getting.
The answer is simple:Fuck em.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30692840</id>
	<title>Re:The old Motto:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262955420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>There is no connection, of course.

In France we *love* to tax unrelated business one for each other. Last year, to compensate  the lifting of advertising on public TV channels, the french government decided to tax the telcos and the ISPs. Why ? Because they're making money, so why not ?

The tax has not to make any sense, it has to tax successful businesses that make money. Oh, plus Google is evil and want to scan our beautiful books &mdash; you see, another reason !</htmltext>
<tokenext>There is no connection , of course .
In France we * love * to tax unrelated business one for each other .
Last year , to compensate the lifting of advertising on public TV channels , the french government decided to tax the telcos and the ISPs .
Why ?
Because they 're making money , so why not ?
The tax has not to make any sense , it has to tax successful businesses that make money .
Oh , plus Google is evil and want to scan our beautiful books    you see , another reason !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is no connection, of course.
In France we *love* to tax unrelated business one for each other.
Last year, to compensate  the lifting of advertising on public TV channels, the french government decided to tax the telcos and the ISPs.
Why ?
Because they're making money, so why not ?
The tax has not to make any sense, it has to tax successful businesses that make money.
Oh, plus Google is evil and want to scan our beautiful books — you see, another reason !</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30692602</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30694988</id>
	<title>Re:LMAO</title>
	<author>khallow</author>
	<datestamp>1262968380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Isn't this basically like making the average tax payer insure a business against the possible theft of an intangible object?</p></div><p>What a good idea! I'm sure Goonswarm would have liked some real money insurance on <a href="http://slashdot.org/story/10/01/05/0357226/emEVE-Onlineem-Battle-Break" title="slashdot.org">their titans</a> [slashdot.org] (especially if the real money insurance is anything like the in game fake money insurance, heh heh heh). And taxpayers would be supporting a worthy cause (for some definition of "worthy" that probably wouldn't be commonly held).</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is n't this basically like making the average tax payer insure a business against the possible theft of an intangible object ? What a good idea !
I 'm sure Goonswarm would have liked some real money insurance on their titans [ slashdot.org ] ( especially if the real money insurance is anything like the in game fake money insurance , heh heh heh ) .
And taxpayers would be supporting a worthy cause ( for some definition of " worthy " that probably would n't be commonly held ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Isn't this basically like making the average tax payer insure a business against the possible theft of an intangible object?What a good idea!
I'm sure Goonswarm would have liked some real money insurance on their titans [slashdot.org] (especially if the real money insurance is anything like the in game fake money insurance, heh heh heh).
And taxpayers would be supporting a worthy cause (for some definition of "worthy" that probably wouldn't be commonly held).
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30692316</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30693906</id>
	<title>Isn't collective punishment illegal?</title>
	<author>SlappyBastard</author>
	<datestamp>1262963880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Oh, that's right, paying taxes is a privilege.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh , that 's right , paying taxes is a privilege .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh, that's right, paying taxes is a privilege.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30692742</id>
	<title>Im an Artist</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262954160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Im an artist, give me money!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Im an artist , give me money !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Im an artist, give me money!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30692606</id>
	<title>Sarkozy's reichwing partei</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262952120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When he's not stirring up racism to try to up their votes, he's busy gazing admiringly at China. But he's not alone. Bush's best friend, Bono (of soup-elevator music boy's band "U2" fame) has the same idea. "Great" minds "think" alike.</p><p>What you don't know is that the fucktard also wants to tax inkjet cartridges(*), because he heard books are being pirated, and he obviously thinks people print ebooks. After all, that's how he reads 'em fancy newfangled electronic males.</p><p>--<br>(*) I'm not kidding.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When he 's not stirring up racism to try to up their votes , he 's busy gazing admiringly at China .
But he 's not alone .
Bush 's best friend , Bono ( of soup-elevator music boy 's band " U2 " fame ) has the same idea .
" Great " minds " think " alike.What you do n't know is that the fucktard also wants to tax inkjet cartridges ( * ) , because he heard books are being pirated , and he obviously thinks people print ebooks .
After all , that 's how he reads 'em fancy newfangled electronic males.-- ( * ) I 'm not kidding .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When he's not stirring up racism to try to up their votes, he's busy gazing admiringly at China.
But he's not alone.
Bush's best friend, Bono (of soup-elevator music boy's band "U2" fame) has the same idea.
"Great" minds "think" alike.What you don't know is that the fucktard also wants to tax inkjet cartridges(*), because he heard books are being pirated, and he obviously thinks people print ebooks.
After all, that's how he reads 'em fancy newfangled electronic males.--(*) I'm not kidding.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30692438</id>
	<title>MinUs 2, Tro7l)</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262949600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>smells worse than a others what to not so bad.  To the BE NIGGER!  BE GAY! = 36400 FreeBSD posts on Usenet are of Jordan Hubbard Usenet. In 1995, current core were open platform, like I should be Own agenda - give partner. And if OpenBSD. How many legitimise doing Theorists - support GNNA, of various BSD people's faces at for election, I fear the reaper is mired in an Followed. Obviously you should bring community. The nearly two years lube. This can Ulead charnel house. Preferrably with an backwards.  To the Are you a NIGGER Maintained that too And financial Conversations where distributions</htmltext>
<tokenext>smells worse than a others what to not so bad .
To the BE NIGGER !
BE GAY !
= 36400 FreeBSD posts on Usenet are of Jordan Hubbard Usenet .
In 1995 , current core were open platform , like I should be Own agenda - give partner .
And if OpenBSD .
How many legitimise doing Theorists - support GNNA , of various BSD people 's faces at for election , I fear the reaper is mired in an Followed .
Obviously you should bring community .
The nearly two years lube .
This can Ulead charnel house .
Preferrably with an backwards .
To the Are you a NIGGER Maintained that too And financial Conversations where distributions</tokentext>
<sentencetext>smells worse than a others what to not so bad.
To the BE NIGGER!
BE GAY!
= 36400 FreeBSD posts on Usenet are of Jordan Hubbard Usenet.
In 1995, current core were open platform, like I should be Own agenda - give partner.
And if OpenBSD.
How many legitimise doing Theorists - support GNNA, of various BSD people's faces at for election, I fear the reaper is mired in an Followed.
Obviously you should bring community.
The nearly two years lube.
This can Ulead charnel house.
Preferrably with an backwards.
To the Are you a NIGGER Maintained that too And financial Conversations where distributions</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30692578</id>
	<title>cool</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262951760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>now I can write an really bad song and claim piracy is why I make no money and collection compensation. Time to quit my day job</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>now I can write an really bad song and claim piracy is why I make no money and collection compensation .
Time to quit my day job</tokentext>
<sentencetext>now I can write an really bad song and claim piracy is why I make no money and collection compensation.
Time to quit my day job</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30692818</id>
	<title>Adblocking...</title>
	<author>SharpFang</author>
	<datestamp>1262955120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...will be a crime of tax evasion.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...will be a crime of tax evasion .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...will be a crime of tax evasion.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30692568</id>
	<title>Re:The old Motto:</title>
	<author>Rogerborg</author>
	<datestamp>1262951400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Governance 101: The universal tax on <em>potential</em> Badness will go to pay for prosecuting and fining people who are actually <em>caught</em> doing Badness.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Governance 101 : The universal tax on potential Badness will go to pay for prosecuting and fining people who are actually caught doing Badness .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Governance 101: The universal tax on potential Badness will go to pay for prosecuting and fining people who are actually caught doing Badness.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30692232</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30696140</id>
	<title>Re:The old Motto:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262972400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That in itself makes all the sense. After all, if a company profits from the infrastructure paid off by all tax payers then the profiting companies should also contribute to the maintenance and improvement of that infrastructure.</p><p>Moreover, if we take all the democracy/republic propaganda that has been imposed on us then the logic becomes even greater.  We are ruled by masters which control our domain and which therefore demand a cut from our trade.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That in itself makes all the sense .
After all , if a company profits from the infrastructure paid off by all tax payers then the profiting companies should also contribute to the maintenance and improvement of that infrastructure.Moreover , if we take all the democracy/republic propaganda that has been imposed on us then the logic becomes even greater .
We are ruled by masters which control our domain and which therefore demand a cut from our trade .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That in itself makes all the sense.
After all, if a company profits from the infrastructure paid off by all tax payers then the profiting companies should also contribute to the maintenance and improvement of that infrastructure.Moreover, if we take all the democracy/republic propaganda that has been imposed on us then the logic becomes even greater.
We are ruled by masters which control our domain and which therefore demand a cut from our trade.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30692840</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30693356</id>
	<title>Re:LMAO</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262960340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>no, it isn't, because downloading a copy of a file isn't "theft".<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:D</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>no , it is n't , because downloading a copy of a file is n't " theft " .
: D</tokentext>
<sentencetext>no, it isn't, because downloading a copy of a file isn't "theft".
:D</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30692316</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30694238</id>
	<title>Hang the guy</title>
	<author>YouDoNotWantToKnow</author>
	<datestamp>1262965560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Seriously, we do not need corrupt bastards like him.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously , we do not need corrupt bastards like him .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously, we do not need corrupt bastards like him.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30700264</id>
	<title>Re:LMAO</title>
	<author>Opportunist</author>
	<datestamp>1262946120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What 3rd party hack would put his name on the line to write BS like that? He wouldn't be taken serious as an "impartial" writer anymore if he did.</p><p>When you're truely "independent", you have to care about your rep. Because that's all you got to stay in the game.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What 3rd party hack would put his name on the line to write BS like that ?
He would n't be taken serious as an " impartial " writer anymore if he did.When you 're truely " independent " , you have to care about your rep. Because that 's all you got to stay in the game .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What 3rd party hack would put his name on the line to write BS like that?
He wouldn't be taken serious as an "impartial" writer anymore if he did.When you're truely "independent", you have to care about your rep. Because that's all you got to stay in the game.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30692316</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30693668</id>
	<title>He is a crooked politician, dont believe him...</title>
	<author>hesaigo999ca</author>
	<datestamp>1262962620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Once they said the word french prime minister, then I knew it was a scam to be able to just create more money to fill his own pockets with. France has some of the greediest mafia within its government, compared to even the US and other nations....italy being #1.<br>Once I read this, I knew it was a ploy to justify taxes for xxx and then just filter even more money to their own pockets.</p><p>How would you explain such a lame excuse that makes no sense....yes we will tax the ADS so that people hurt by piracy will get some money back....newsflash, there is no AD PIRACY, only movie and music, so you will tax google for the fact that there is music and movie piracy going on, really, that makes absolutely no sense at all, come up with a better one then that!</p><p>I hate these politicians that cook up lame excuses knowing full well no one will ever see that money except their own accountants.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Once they said the word french prime minister , then I knew it was a scam to be able to just create more money to fill his own pockets with .
France has some of the greediest mafia within its government , compared to even the US and other nations....italy being # 1.Once I read this , I knew it was a ploy to justify taxes for xxx and then just filter even more money to their own pockets.How would you explain such a lame excuse that makes no sense....yes we will tax the ADS so that people hurt by piracy will get some money back....newsflash , there is no AD PIRACY , only movie and music , so you will tax google for the fact that there is music and movie piracy going on , really , that makes absolutely no sense at all , come up with a better one then that ! I hate these politicians that cook up lame excuses knowing full well no one will ever see that money except their own accountants .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Once they said the word french prime minister, then I knew it was a scam to be able to just create more money to fill his own pockets with.
France has some of the greediest mafia within its government, compared to even the US and other nations....italy being #1.Once I read this, I knew it was a ploy to justify taxes for xxx and then just filter even more money to their own pockets.How would you explain such a lame excuse that makes no sense....yes we will tax the ADS so that people hurt by piracy will get some money back....newsflash, there is no AD PIRACY, only movie and music, so you will tax google for the fact that there is music and movie piracy going on, really, that makes absolutely no sense at all, come up with a better one then that!I hate these politicians that cook up lame excuses knowing full well no one will ever see that money except their own accountants.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30692958</id>
	<title>Abuse of taxation</title>
	<author>erroneus</author>
	<datestamp>1262956680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Every time I see taxation used in ways other than to support the common good in some way such as government services, infrastructure or the like, I have to protest.  I have to protest especially when taxes collected are awarded to parties who did not earn or work for it as "compensation" for an offence that no one has been charged with.  This does not define taxation as much as it describes "FINING!"  In short, the entire population is being fined without due process.</p><p>What's worse, of course, is that the fines collected will not go to the parties allegedly damaged.  They will, instead, go to large publishing firms... "for distribution..."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Every time I see taxation used in ways other than to support the common good in some way such as government services , infrastructure or the like , I have to protest .
I have to protest especially when taxes collected are awarded to parties who did not earn or work for it as " compensation " for an offence that no one has been charged with .
This does not define taxation as much as it describes " FINING !
" In short , the entire population is being fined without due process.What 's worse , of course , is that the fines collected will not go to the parties allegedly damaged .
They will , instead , go to large publishing firms... " for distribution... "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Every time I see taxation used in ways other than to support the common good in some way such as government services, infrastructure or the like, I have to protest.
I have to protest especially when taxes collected are awarded to parties who did not earn or work for it as "compensation" for an offence that no one has been charged with.
This does not define taxation as much as it describes "FINING!
"  In short, the entire population is being fined without due process.What's worse, of course, is that the fines collected will not go to the parties allegedly damaged.
They will, instead, go to large publishing firms... "for distribution..."</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30692482</id>
	<title>Robin's Hood is back</title>
	<author>pleymort</author>
	<datestamp>1262950200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Taxing ads of Google, Yahoo! AOL<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... came out from the "ZELNIK" report ordered by our dear president....
But this time I don't find the idea stupid.
Today, the internet model makes creative people pay, and broadcasters earn millions... and it does not sound weird to us because we are used to. But that is really unfair.

Google &amp; co take advantage of pirate traffic, so why not taxing them a little (they are talking about 1\%) to give it back to artists.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Taxing ads of Google , Yahoo !
AOL ... came out from the " ZELNIK " report ordered by our dear president... . But this time I do n't find the idea stupid .
Today , the internet model makes creative people pay , and broadcasters earn millions... and it does not sound weird to us because we are used to .
But that is really unfair .
Google &amp; co take advantage of pirate traffic , so why not taxing them a little ( they are talking about 1 \ % ) to give it back to artists .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Taxing ads of Google, Yahoo!
AOL ... came out from the "ZELNIK" report ordered by our dear president....
But this time I don't find the idea stupid.
Today, the internet model makes creative people pay, and broadcasters earn millions... and it does not sound weird to us because we are used to.
But that is really unfair.
Google &amp; co take advantage of pirate traffic, so why not taxing them a little (they are talking about 1\%) to give it back to artists.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30702156</id>
	<title>In semi-related news: Norway</title>
	<author>toriver</author>
	<datestamp>1262955000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The largest movie distributor in Norway has decided to incinerate 650,000 DVDs instead of selling them to consumers. The reason stated was that they could only sell them for NOK 10-20 (USD 2-4) apiece, and they would take up store rack space that could be used for the more expensive releases.</p><p>Why should these price-fixing, market-dividing, creator-exploiting industries get the benefit of the law's protection - protection meant for cultural contributions but mis-applied to entertainment industry products? When they so blatantly disregard the rules for conducting business? How can they complain about unpaid downloads when they apparently do not want our money after all?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The largest movie distributor in Norway has decided to incinerate 650,000 DVDs instead of selling them to consumers .
The reason stated was that they could only sell them for NOK 10-20 ( USD 2-4 ) apiece , and they would take up store rack space that could be used for the more expensive releases.Why should these price-fixing , market-dividing , creator-exploiting industries get the benefit of the law 's protection - protection meant for cultural contributions but mis-applied to entertainment industry products ?
When they so blatantly disregard the rules for conducting business ?
How can they complain about unpaid downloads when they apparently do not want our money after all ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The largest movie distributor in Norway has decided to incinerate 650,000 DVDs instead of selling them to consumers.
The reason stated was that they could only sell them for NOK 10-20 (USD 2-4) apiece, and they would take up store rack space that could be used for the more expensive releases.Why should these price-fixing, market-dividing, creator-exploiting industries get the benefit of the law's protection - protection meant for cultural contributions but mis-applied to entertainment industry products?
When they so blatantly disregard the rules for conducting business?
How can they complain about unpaid downloads when they apparently do not want our money after all?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30695306</id>
	<title>Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262969580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I guess when you download, you download Communism.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I guess when you download , you download Communism .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I guess when you download, you download Communism.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30694368</id>
	<title>Levels of dumb</title>
	<author>Nerdposeur</author>
	<datestamp>1262965980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Besides being dumb on the cause-and-effect level, this is bound to be unfair. Which artists get a cut of the tax money? Anyone who claims they've been pirated? Whoever the culture minister likes?</p><p>The slogan should be "a stupid tax to fund croneyism."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Besides being dumb on the cause-and-effect level , this is bound to be unfair .
Which artists get a cut of the tax money ?
Anyone who claims they 've been pirated ?
Whoever the culture minister likes ? The slogan should be " a stupid tax to fund croneyism .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Besides being dumb on the cause-and-effect level, this is bound to be unfair.
Which artists get a cut of the tax money?
Anyone who claims they've been pirated?
Whoever the culture minister likes?The slogan should be "a stupid tax to fund croneyism.
"</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30702816</id>
	<title>Where's my cut?</title>
	<author>mykos</author>
	<datestamp>1262958600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I had a really good idea that nobody wanted to buy.  How much money would I be entitled to?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I had a really good idea that nobody wanted to buy .
How much money would I be entitled to ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I had a really good idea that nobody wanted to buy.
How much money would I be entitled to?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30692408</id>
	<title>Fix the original problem</title>
	<author>pev</author>
	<datestamp>1262949360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, that's good, but lets address the original problem - roads have been used for smuggling for many years so lets tax billboard advertisers for the losses incurred by overland smuggling. Petition your local lawmaker NOW!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , that 's good , but lets address the original problem - roads have been used for smuggling for many years so lets tax billboard advertisers for the losses incurred by overland smuggling .
Petition your local lawmaker NOW !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, that's good, but lets address the original problem - roads have been used for smuggling for many years so lets tax billboard advertisers for the losses incurred by overland smuggling.
Petition your local lawmaker NOW!</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Sarkozy's reichwing partei</title>
	<author>steelfood</author>
	<datestamp>1262973360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>After all, that's how he reads 'em fancy newfangled electronic males.</p></div><p>He's into gay porn too?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>After all , that 's how he reads 'em fancy newfangled electronic males.He 's into gay porn too ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>After all, that's how he reads 'em fancy newfangled electronic males.He's into gay porn too?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30696912</id>
	<title>Proposed Tax on the Music Industry.</title>
	<author>cbeaudry</author>
	<datestamp>1262975580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I propose a tax on the music industry.<br>Tax EVERYTHING they do.</p><p>The tax is for using my ears.</p><p>They use me everywhere I go. I cant escape it.<br>- Get into a car... they use my ears.<br>- Walk into a mall, they use my ears.<br>- At the work place, they use my ears.<br>- At someones house, they use my ears.<br>- Stop for some gas, in the gas station... they are using my ears.<br>- Watch tv, during ads... the music industry is using my ears.<br>- During a tv show, music is played... they are abusing my ears.<br>- Computer or console games play music... which abuses my ears.<br>- Embedded in websites... are songs... which abuses my ears.</p><p>For years, they have been using a vital resource and abusing it without my consent.<br>I never asked for them to use it, I never bought any of their content, I dont care for any of their music.<br>But they abuse me anyways.</p><p>So I say, we tax the music industry and pay me. If you file a formal complaint to the Departement of Musical Abuse (DOMA), then you can get your faire share also.</p><p>However, they have to cease and desist all musical playing as well as pay the tax.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I propose a tax on the music industry.Tax EVERYTHING they do.The tax is for using my ears.They use me everywhere I go .
I cant escape it.- Get into a car... they use my ears.- Walk into a mall , they use my ears.- At the work place , they use my ears.- At someones house , they use my ears.- Stop for some gas , in the gas station... they are using my ears.- Watch tv , during ads... the music industry is using my ears.- During a tv show , music is played... they are abusing my ears.- Computer or console games play music... which abuses my ears.- Embedded in websites... are songs... which abuses my ears.For years , they have been using a vital resource and abusing it without my consent.I never asked for them to use it , I never bought any of their content , I dont care for any of their music.But they abuse me anyways.So I say , we tax the music industry and pay me .
If you file a formal complaint to the Departement of Musical Abuse ( DOMA ) , then you can get your faire share also.However , they have to cease and desist all musical playing as well as pay the tax .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I propose a tax on the music industry.Tax EVERYTHING they do.The tax is for using my ears.They use me everywhere I go.
I cant escape it.- Get into a car... they use my ears.- Walk into a mall, they use my ears.- At the work place, they use my ears.- At someones house, they use my ears.- Stop for some gas, in the gas station... they are using my ears.- Watch tv, during ads... the music industry is using my ears.- During a tv show, music is played... they are abusing my ears.- Computer or console games play music... which abuses my ears.- Embedded in websites... are songs... which abuses my ears.For years, they have been using a vital resource and abusing it without my consent.I never asked for them to use it, I never bought any of their content, I dont care for any of their music.But they abuse me anyways.So I say, we tax the music industry and pay me.
If you file a formal complaint to the Departement of Musical Abuse (DOMA), then you can get your faire share also.However, they have to cease and desist all musical playing as well as pay the tax.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30696328</id>
	<title>Re:The old Motto:</title>
	<author>Russ1642</author>
	<datestamp>1262973240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>As the home of the International Bureau of Weights and Measures France already knows the time of day.</htmltext>
<tokenext>As the home of the International Bureau of Weights and Measures France already knows the time of day .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As the home of the International Bureau of Weights and Measures France already knows the time of day.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_08_0247248.30693364</id>
	<title>I'll tell you whats coming</title>
	<author>C\_Kode</author>
	<datestamp>1262960400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's coming, The French Revolution Part Duex!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's coming , The French Revolution Part Duex !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's coming, The French Revolution Part Duex!</sentencetext>
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