<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_01_06_1420209</id>
	<title>Ubuntu "Memberships" Questioned</title>
	<author>CmdrTaco</author>
	<datestamp>1262793600000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>mxh83 writes <i>"Apparently if you have 'sustained' and 'significant' contributions to Ubuntu, you can become a '<a href="http://www.ubuntu-user.com/Online/Blogs/Amber-Graner-You-in-Ubuntu/2010-Your-Year-for-Ubuntu-Membership">Ubuntu Member</a>' and get some freebies.  'While there is no precise period that we look for, it is rare for applications to be accepted from people contributing for <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership">less than 6 months</a>. It is vital to be well prepared for the meeting. You need to convince the membership board that you have contributed to Ubuntu.' Have they thought this incentive through? What about recognition for smaller contributors? And who judged what is a 'significant' contribution to a community project?"</i>
<b>Update: 01/06 20:33 GMT</b> by <b> <a href="mailto:soulskillatslashdotdotorg">S</a> </b>: Changed the title to reflect the fact that Ubuntu memberships have actually been around for a few years now.</htmltext>
<tokenext>mxh83 writes " Apparently if you have 'sustained ' and 'significant ' contributions to Ubuntu , you can become a 'Ubuntu Member ' and get some freebies .
'While there is no precise period that we look for , it is rare for applications to be accepted from people contributing for less than 6 months .
It is vital to be well prepared for the meeting .
You need to convince the membership board that you have contributed to Ubuntu .
' Have they thought this incentive through ?
What about recognition for smaller contributors ?
And who judged what is a 'significant ' contribution to a community project ?
" Update : 01/06 20 : 33 GMT by S : Changed the title to reflect the fact that Ubuntu memberships have actually been around for a few years now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>mxh83 writes "Apparently if you have 'sustained' and 'significant' contributions to Ubuntu, you can become a 'Ubuntu Member' and get some freebies.
'While there is no precise period that we look for, it is rare for applications to be accepted from people contributing for less than 6 months.
It is vital to be well prepared for the meeting.
You need to convince the membership board that you have contributed to Ubuntu.
' Have they thought this incentive through?
What about recognition for smaller contributors?
And who judged what is a 'significant' contribution to a community project?
"
Update: 01/06 20:33 GMT by  S : Changed the title to reflect the fact that Ubuntu memberships have actually been around for a few years now.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30673738</id>
	<title>Re:...chewie</title>
	<author>ibsteve2u</author>
	<datestamp>1262810400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've got moderator points to use, but this comment of yours required a more personal plaudit (besides, you were already tagged @5).  I think everybody who is ever in a position where he or she has to judge a group of people and pick only one winner should consider reading it aloud at the awards ceremony.</p><p>The <i>Highlander</i> nature of human competitions has its drawbacks...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've got moderator points to use , but this comment of yours required a more personal plaudit ( besides , you were already tagged @ 5 ) .
I think everybody who is ever in a position where he or she has to judge a group of people and pick only one winner should consider reading it aloud at the awards ceremony.The Highlander nature of human competitions has its drawbacks.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've got moderator points to use, but this comment of yours required a more personal plaudit (besides, you were already tagged @5).
I think everybody who is ever in a position where he or she has to judge a group of people and pick only one winner should consider reading it aloud at the awards ceremony.The Highlander nature of human competitions has its drawbacks...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30671218</id>
	<title>Re:Is there a suggestion box?</title>
	<author>MonsterTrimble</author>
	<datestamp>1262800020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yep. Brainstorm: <a href="http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/" title="ubuntu.com" rel="nofollow">http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/</a> [ubuntu.com] </p><p>And I think I might just buy one of these: <a href="http://shop.canonical.com/product\_info.php?products\_id=440" title="canonical.com" rel="nofollow">http://shop.canonical.com/product\_info.php?products\_id=440</a> [canonical.com] </p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yep .
Brainstorm : http : //brainstorm.ubuntu.com/ [ ubuntu.com ] And I think I might just buy one of these : http : //shop.canonical.com/product \ _info.php ? products \ _id = 440 [ canonical.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yep.
Brainstorm: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/ [ubuntu.com] And I think I might just buy one of these: http://shop.canonical.com/product\_info.php?products\_id=440 [canonical.com] </sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30681486</id>
	<title>Re:</title>
	<author>clint999</author>
	<datestamp>1262874600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>Absolutely. If you'd read the book, you'd know that the military in Starship Troopers had extensive and fairly balanced civic and political education.</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>Absolutely .
If you 'd read the book , you 'd know that the military in Starship Troopers had extensive and fairly balanced civic and political education .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Absolutely.
If you'd read the book, you'd know that the military in Starship Troopers had extensive and fairly balanced civic and political education.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30672524</id>
	<title>Re:LOL.</title>
	<author>Beuno</author>
	<datestamp>1262805000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Which marketing department dipshit thought this stupid idea up?</p></div><p>Mark put together this process from the start to ensure a healthy community that could grow. it seems to have worked wonders so far.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Which marketing department dipshit thought this stupid idea up ? Mark put together this process from the start to ensure a healthy community that could grow .
it seems to have worked wonders so far .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Which marketing department dipshit thought this stupid idea up?Mark put together this process from the start to ensure a healthy community that could grow.
it seems to have worked wonders so far.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30673548</id>
	<title>Re:Reminds me</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262809440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, but what are the requirements for getting that?  I think it is just longevity.  I've had an account here for years, but I've never submitted a story or even had moderation points because I use the account mainly for trolling (it has had Terrible karma for years).  So I'm not really sure that perk means a whole lot.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , but what are the requirements for getting that ?
I think it is just longevity .
I 've had an account here for years , but I 've never submitted a story or even had moderation points because I use the account mainly for trolling ( it has had Terrible karma for years ) .
So I 'm not really sure that perk means a whole lot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, but what are the requirements for getting that?
I think it is just longevity.
I've had an account here for years, but I've never submitted a story or even had moderation points because I use the account mainly for trolling (it has had Terrible karma for years).
So I'm not really sure that perk means a whole lot.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30675676</id>
	<title>Re:Let me translate</title>
	<author>thtrgremlin</author>
	<datestamp>1262775900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>There is no t-shirt. The work you do is really just rewarded with an arbitrary improvement in their ability to keep making those contributions. For example, you are allowed to have business cards that say Ubuntu on them in that you can say that you represent Ubuntu, and can use an @ubuntu email address. If you work hard to promote Ubuntu in a way that you might benefit from having business cards and an @ubuntu email address, then you get one. Bu they take it seriously and don't want to just give out that right to everyone that says that they are going to, and I don't think 6 months is too much to ask AT ALL. And sorry, there is no free t-shirt.<br> <br>Also, imagine if there were just a bunch of people that became members and never voted. Too many problems with that not even going to go into.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There is no t-shirt .
The work you do is really just rewarded with an arbitrary improvement in their ability to keep making those contributions .
For example , you are allowed to have business cards that say Ubuntu on them in that you can say that you represent Ubuntu , and can use an @ ubuntu email address .
If you work hard to promote Ubuntu in a way that you might benefit from having business cards and an @ ubuntu email address , then you get one .
Bu they take it seriously and do n't want to just give out that right to everyone that says that they are going to , and I do n't think 6 months is too much to ask AT ALL .
And sorry , there is no free t-shirt .
Also , imagine if there were just a bunch of people that became members and never voted .
Too many problems with that not even going to go into .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is no t-shirt.
The work you do is really just rewarded with an arbitrary improvement in their ability to keep making those contributions.
For example, you are allowed to have business cards that say Ubuntu on them in that you can say that you represent Ubuntu, and can use an @ubuntu email address.
If you work hard to promote Ubuntu in a way that you might benefit from having business cards and an @ubuntu email address, then you get one.
Bu they take it seriously and don't want to just give out that right to everyone that says that they are going to, and I don't think 6 months is too much to ask AT ALL.
And sorry, there is no free t-shirt.
Also, imagine if there were just a bunch of people that became members and never voted.
Too many problems with that not even going to go into.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30675652</id>
	<title>Re:Exclusivity for envy.</title>
	<author>2short</author>
	<datestamp>1262775780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><br>Of course, if you're writing code for the purpose of getting others to give you something other than code in return, you might consider whether you prefer to write OSS for a TShirt or proprietary for oodles of cash.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Of course , if you 're writing code for the purpose of getting others to give you something other than code in return , you might consider whether you prefer to write OSS for a TShirt or proprietary for oodles of cash .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of course, if you're writing code for the purpose of getting others to give you something other than code in return, you might consider whether you prefer to write OSS for a TShirt or proprietary for oodles of cash.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30676080</id>
	<title>Re:Blast from the past</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262777760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oh my, Ubuntu fanboy got offended and modded me a Troll. ROFLMAO. Too bad the fanboys cannot comprehend the difference between "voting on UCC nominations" and "voting to confirm UCC nominations". Then again, I don't think they care.</p><p>And another fanboy below is screaming at the top of his lungs about "real democracy and transparency". Yes, the louder you scream, the truer it becomes.</p><p>Come on, the whole exercise is just an exchange of money for fake privileges.</p><p>Go ahead, mod me down to Troll^2. I need a good laugh.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh my , Ubuntu fanboy got offended and modded me a Troll .
ROFLMAO. Too bad the fanboys can not comprehend the difference between " voting on UCC nominations " and " voting to confirm UCC nominations " .
Then again , I do n't think they care.And another fanboy below is screaming at the top of his lungs about " real democracy and transparency " .
Yes , the louder you scream , the truer it becomes.Come on , the whole exercise is just an exchange of money for fake privileges.Go ahead , mod me down to Troll ^ 2 .
I need a good laugh .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh my, Ubuntu fanboy got offended and modded me a Troll.
ROFLMAO. Too bad the fanboys cannot comprehend the difference between "voting on UCC nominations" and "voting to confirm UCC nominations".
Then again, I don't think they care.And another fanboy below is screaming at the top of his lungs about "real democracy and transparency".
Yes, the louder you scream, the truer it becomes.Come on, the whole exercise is just an exchange of money for fake privileges.Go ahead, mod me down to Troll^2.
I need a good laugh.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30670586</id>
	<title>LOL.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262797560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Which marketing department dipshit thought this stupid idea up?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Which marketing department dipshit thought this stupid idea up ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Which marketing department dipshit thought this stupid idea up?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30671524</id>
	<title>Re:Let me translate</title>
	<author>Runaway1956</author>
	<datestamp>1262801100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Let me see if I can get this meme anywhere close to right.</p><p>"I'm a 49 year old grandmother, coder, and contributor, and I've not given Ubuntu one single MAN-hour in my life!!  What's wrong with WOMAN-hours?  Quite frankly, I'm offended that those sexist pigs are overlooking some of their most valuable contributors.  How about an award for WOMAN-hours?  I could use a new maidenform, or a g-string, or just some FLOWERS!  I don't want no stinkin' sweaty t-shirt, that probably only comes in one size - "Obese MoFO".  See if I write another line of code for Canonical!"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Let me see if I can get this meme anywhere close to right .
" I 'm a 49 year old grandmother , coder , and contributor , and I 've not given Ubuntu one single MAN-hour in my life ! !
What 's wrong with WOMAN-hours ?
Quite frankly , I 'm offended that those sexist pigs are overlooking some of their most valuable contributors .
How about an award for WOMAN-hours ?
I could use a new maidenform , or a g-string , or just some FLOWERS !
I do n't want no stinkin ' sweaty t-shirt , that probably only comes in one size - " Obese MoFO " .
See if I write another line of code for Canonical !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let me see if I can get this meme anywhere close to right.
"I'm a 49 year old grandmother, coder, and contributor, and I've not given Ubuntu one single MAN-hour in my life!!
What's wrong with WOMAN-hours?
Quite frankly, I'm offended that those sexist pigs are overlooking some of their most valuable contributors.
How about an award for WOMAN-hours?
I could use a new maidenform, or a g-string, or just some FLOWERS!
I don't want no stinkin' sweaty t-shirt, that probably only comes in one size - "Obese MoFO".
See if I write another line of code for Canonical!
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30670918</id>
	<title>Re:Let me translate</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262798700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>We're here to determine whether you might be worthy of receiving a free t-shirt.</i></p><p>I hear you get access to the Ubuntu Awards First Class Download area -- no bandwidth throttling for members!</p><p>Honestly, I think it's a good idea to give back to the people who have contributed.  It's a little bit like Heinlein's Starship Troopers (the movie does not exist) where you're only allowed to vote if you've served in the military.  In Ubuntu's case, you're only allowed to be a member, therefore having access to a long list of very lucrative opportunities and items (kidding), if you've contributed.  You don't just pay a fee, but you actually help.  It's like working in the soup kitchen versus giving money to the homeless shelter.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We 're here to determine whether you might be worthy of receiving a free t-shirt.I hear you get access to the Ubuntu Awards First Class Download area -- no bandwidth throttling for members ! Honestly , I think it 's a good idea to give back to the people who have contributed .
It 's a little bit like Heinlein 's Starship Troopers ( the movie does not exist ) where you 're only allowed to vote if you 've served in the military .
In Ubuntu 's case , you 're only allowed to be a member , therefore having access to a long list of very lucrative opportunities and items ( kidding ) , if you 've contributed .
You do n't just pay a fee , but you actually help .
It 's like working in the soup kitchen versus giving money to the homeless shelter .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We're here to determine whether you might be worthy of receiving a free t-shirt.I hear you get access to the Ubuntu Awards First Class Download area -- no bandwidth throttling for members!Honestly, I think it's a good idea to give back to the people who have contributed.
It's a little bit like Heinlein's Starship Troopers (the movie does not exist) where you're only allowed to vote if you've served in the military.
In Ubuntu's case, you're only allowed to be a member, therefore having access to a long list of very lucrative opportunities and items (kidding), if you've contributed.
You don't just pay a fee, but you actually help.
It's like working in the soup kitchen versus giving money to the homeless shelter.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30671408</id>
	<title>Re:Let me translate</title>
	<author>Yvanhoe</author>
	<datestamp>1262800680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"Which is more than what you were supposed to received by <b>volunteering</b> your time."<br>
A T-shirt is surely a laughable salary, unless you look at it from two other possible point of views :
<br>
- This is getting better. It was zero a few days ago. Going from zero to something is encouraging.<br>
- This is not a t-shirt, this is a business card and a huge point on your CV. Wearing such a t-shirt at a convention or on a job interview (no, suits are not always mandatory) says "I was recognized for my skill in the Ubuntu project" and that, is worth quite a lot. But this is reputation money, not cash. Some people, however, long for this.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Which is more than what you were supposed to received by volunteering your time .
" A T-shirt is surely a laughable salary , unless you look at it from two other possible point of views : - This is getting better .
It was zero a few days ago .
Going from zero to something is encouraging .
- This is not a t-shirt , this is a business card and a huge point on your CV .
Wearing such a t-shirt at a convention or on a job interview ( no , suits are not always mandatory ) says " I was recognized for my skill in the Ubuntu project " and that , is worth quite a lot .
But this is reputation money , not cash .
Some people , however , long for this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Which is more than what you were supposed to received by volunteering your time.
"
A T-shirt is surely a laughable salary, unless you look at it from two other possible point of views :

- This is getting better.
It was zero a few days ago.
Going from zero to something is encouraging.
- This is not a t-shirt, this is a business card and a huge point on your CV.
Wearing such a t-shirt at a convention or on a job interview (no, suits are not always mandatory) says "I was recognized for my skill in the Ubuntu project" and that, is worth quite a lot.
But this is reputation money, not cash.
Some people, however, long for this.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30670660</id>
	<title>I wouldn't want to be part of any club...</title>
	<author>filesiteguy</author>
	<datestamp>1262797860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>...that would have me as a member.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)<br><br>I like the quote in the article, "Instead, people should set a goal of making substantial and sustained contributions to Ubuntu. By doing this, the focus shifts from working hard in order to get one of the Membership benefits to working hard in order to make Ubuntu a greater distribution and improve the community,"<br><br>You know, people are going to want the benefits.<br><br>I wonder if bitching about the GUI or how I don't get to sync my blackberry using a GUI I like counts.</div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>...that would have me as a member .
: ) I like the quote in the article , " Instead , people should set a goal of making substantial and sustained contributions to Ubuntu .
By doing this , the focus shifts from working hard in order to get one of the Membership benefits to working hard in order to make Ubuntu a greater distribution and improve the community , " You know , people are going to want the benefits.I wonder if bitching about the GUI or how I do n't get to sync my blackberry using a GUI I like counts .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...that would have me as a member.
:)I like the quote in the article, "Instead, people should set a goal of making substantial and sustained contributions to Ubuntu.
By doing this, the focus shifts from working hard in order to get one of the Membership benefits to working hard in order to make Ubuntu a greater distribution and improve the community,"You know, people are going to want the benefits.I wonder if bitching about the GUI or how I don't get to sync my blackberry using a GUI I like counts.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30696560</id>
	<title>Re:DD</title>
	<author>New\_Guy\_Here</author>
	<datestamp>1262974140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>i love a good speach.  spears are good too.</htmltext>
<tokenext>i love a good speach .
spears are good too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i love a good speach.
spears are good too.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30673262</id>
	<title>Re:Let me translate</title>
	<author>gr8scot</author>
	<datestamp>1262808120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Good point about the Starship Troopers movie.  It's one thing to omit some events for the unofficial two-hour limit, but that thing was really untrue to the essence of the book whose title, plot and characters it lifted for a contrary theme and message (or absence of any, which is also contrary to the book's intent).<br> <br>
Good use of the book as analogy, too.  Rights logically imply responsibilities.  What's the problem?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Good point about the Starship Troopers movie .
It 's one thing to omit some events for the unofficial two-hour limit , but that thing was really untrue to the essence of the book whose title , plot and characters it lifted for a contrary theme and message ( or absence of any , which is also contrary to the book 's intent ) .
Good use of the book as analogy , too .
Rights logically imply responsibilities .
What 's the problem ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Good point about the Starship Troopers movie.
It's one thing to omit some events for the unofficial two-hour limit, but that thing was really untrue to the essence of the book whose title, plot and characters it lifted for a contrary theme and message (or absence of any, which is also contrary to the book's intent).
Good use of the book as analogy, too.
Rights logically imply responsibilities.
What's the problem?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30672316</id>
	<title>Re:DD</title>
	<author>Beuno</author>
	<datestamp>1262804160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I am a member of one of the membership boards (Americas board)<br>No, Ubuntu Members are people who contribute to Ubuntu directly, not indirectly. There is a lot of work involved in getting Ubuntu out the door every 6 months, and membership recognizes the people who help do that in a direct way.<br>That said, upstream developers and Debian developers have the advantage of already knowing how a lot of things work, so they will probably have a higher chance of getting through than anyone else (there are separate councils for community involvement and technical involvement).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am a member of one of the membership boards ( Americas board ) No , Ubuntu Members are people who contribute to Ubuntu directly , not indirectly .
There is a lot of work involved in getting Ubuntu out the door every 6 months , and membership recognizes the people who help do that in a direct way.That said , upstream developers and Debian developers have the advantage of already knowing how a lot of things work , so they will probably have a higher chance of getting through than anyone else ( there are separate councils for community involvement and technical involvement ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am a member of one of the membership boards (Americas board)No, Ubuntu Members are people who contribute to Ubuntu directly, not indirectly.
There is a lot of work involved in getting Ubuntu out the door every 6 months, and membership recognizes the people who help do that in a direct way.That said, upstream developers and Debian developers have the advantage of already knowing how a lot of things work, so they will probably have a higher chance of getting through than anyone else (there are separate councils for community involvement and technical involvement).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30671046</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30674932</id>
	<title>Re:...chewie</title>
	<author>ozbird</author>
	<datestamp>1262772660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Like, okay, you know in Star Wars, when Leia hands out medals to Luke and Han, but Chewie's just standing there on the podium - he doesn't get a medal?</p></div></blockquote><p>"Ladies and gentlemen of this <i>supposed</i> jury, <i>that does not make sense!</i> If Chewbacca didn't get a medal, you must acquit! The defense rests."</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Like , okay , you know in Star Wars , when Leia hands out medals to Luke and Han , but Chewie 's just standing there on the podium - he does n't get a medal ?
" Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury , that does not make sense !
If Chewbacca did n't get a medal , you must acquit !
The defense rests .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Like, okay, you know in Star Wars, when Leia hands out medals to Luke and Han, but Chewie's just standing there on the podium - he doesn't get a medal?
"Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, that does not make sense!
If Chewbacca didn't get a medal, you must acquit!
The defense rests.
"
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30671124</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30671458</id>
	<title>Re:Is there a suggestion box?</title>
	<author>DragonWriter</author>
	<datestamp>1262800860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Do I get to complain about lame mono apps being included in favor of better gtk or KDE ones.</p></div></blockquote><p>If you want Ubuntu with KDE environment and apps as "standard", Canonical has a <a href="http://www.kubuntu.org/" title="kubuntu.org">distribution for that</a> [kubuntu.org].</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do I get to complain about lame mono apps being included in favor of better gtk or KDE ones.If you want Ubuntu with KDE environment and apps as " standard " , Canonical has a distribution for that [ kubuntu.org ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do I get to complain about lame mono apps being included in favor of better gtk or KDE ones.If you want Ubuntu with KDE environment and apps as "standard", Canonical has a distribution for that [kubuntu.org].
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30670688</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30671000</id>
	<title>Exclusivity</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262799120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This seems to represent exactly what the open source world needs less of: exclusivity reasons for people to gloat and act superior.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This seems to represent exactly what the open source world needs less of : exclusivity reasons for people to gloat and act superior .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This seems to represent exactly what the open source world needs less of: exclusivity reasons for people to gloat and act superior.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30671046</id>
	<title>DD</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262799300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wonder if a Debian Developer who has uploaded a new package version to unstable since Ubuntu first forked would be approved? Or upstream developers?  I presume not and this is just about recognising contributions exclusively for the benefit of Ubuntu.</p><p>I'll resist a rant and simply offer a link to Greg Kroah-Hartman's speach at the 2008 linux plumbers conference to show why I for one value contributions to Ubuntu as next to worthless <a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3385088017824733336" title="google.com">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3385088017824733336</a> [google.com] </p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder if a Debian Developer who has uploaded a new package version to unstable since Ubuntu first forked would be approved ?
Or upstream developers ?
I presume not and this is just about recognising contributions exclusively for the benefit of Ubuntu.I 'll resist a rant and simply offer a link to Greg Kroah-Hartman 's speach at the 2008 linux plumbers conference to show why I for one value contributions to Ubuntu as next to worthless http : //video.google.com/videoplay ? docid = 3385088017824733336 [ google.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder if a Debian Developer who has uploaded a new package version to unstable since Ubuntu first forked would be approved?
Or upstream developers?
I presume not and this is just about recognising contributions exclusively for the benefit of Ubuntu.I'll resist a rant and simply offer a link to Greg Kroah-Hartman's speach at the 2008 linux plumbers conference to show why I for one value contributions to Ubuntu as next to worthless http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3385088017824733336 [google.com] </sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30670550</id>
	<title>Let me translate</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262797500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"You've contributed many manweeks of your life improving code. We're here to determine whether you might be worthy of receiving a free t-shirt."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" You 've contributed many manweeks of your life improving code .
We 're here to determine whether you might be worthy of receiving a free t-shirt .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"You've contributed many manweeks of your life improving code.
We're here to determine whether you might be worthy of receiving a free t-shirt.
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30671036</id>
	<title>Re:Reminds me</title>
	<author>Itninja</author>
	<datestamp>1262799240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't know if I have ever 'made Slashdot great' or whatever. But NoScript and ABP give me the same result.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't know if I have ever 'made Slashdot great ' or whatever .
But NoScript and ABP give me the same result .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't know if I have ever 'made Slashdot great' or whatever.
But NoScript and ABP give me the same result.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30670742</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30672252</id>
	<title>Re:Why not?</title>
	<author>Chris Pimlott</author>
	<datestamp>1262803980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>You already have to [digitally] sign a document and agree to a code of conduct in order to become an "Ubuntero", which among other minor benefits is necessary in order to get access to the PPA system.</p></div><p>I assume you mean to host your own PPA <a href="https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA" title="launchpad.net">(Personal Package Archive)</a> [launchpad.net]; there's nothing stopping any anonymous user from downloading from <a href="https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas" title="launchpad.net">existing PPAs.</a> [launchpad.net]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>You already have to [ digitally ] sign a document and agree to a code of conduct in order to become an " Ubuntero " , which among other minor benefits is necessary in order to get access to the PPA system.I assume you mean to host your own PPA ( Personal Package Archive ) [ launchpad.net ] ; there 's nothing stopping any anonymous user from downloading from existing PPAs .
[ launchpad.net ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You already have to [digitally] sign a document and agree to a code of conduct in order to become an "Ubuntero", which among other minor benefits is necessary in order to get access to the PPA system.I assume you mean to host your own PPA (Personal Package Archive) [launchpad.net]; there's nothing stopping any anonymous user from downloading from existing PPAs.
[launchpad.net]
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30670696</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30677490</id>
	<title>Re:Let me translate</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262786280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I spent years coding for Ubuntu, and all I got was this lousy T-shirt!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I spent years coding for Ubuntu , and all I got was this lousy T-shirt !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I spent years coding for Ubuntu, and all I got was this lousy T-shirt!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30670550</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30675426</id>
	<title>Ubuntu questioned</title>
	<author>Baloo Uriza</author>
	<datestamp>1262774940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have to wonder why Ubuntu developers waste time on Ubuntu when it would be more constructive, less controversial and serve their target audience better to work on furthering the Debian Desktop Project instead.  I am aware that many Ubuntu developers are also Debian developers, which makes this all the more pressing of a question.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have to wonder why Ubuntu developers waste time on Ubuntu when it would be more constructive , less controversial and serve their target audience better to work on furthering the Debian Desktop Project instead .
I am aware that many Ubuntu developers are also Debian developers , which makes this all the more pressing of a question .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have to wonder why Ubuntu developers waste time on Ubuntu when it would be more constructive, less controversial and serve their target audience better to work on furthering the Debian Desktop Project instead.
I am aware that many Ubuntu developers are also Debian developers, which makes this all the more pressing of a question.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30670582</id>
	<title>Exclusivity for envy.</title>
	<author>brycethorup</author>
	<datestamp>1262797560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think this is a good move on Ubuntu's part. It should create envy in those who don't meet the criteria to contribute more and work towards a goal. I think this may help increase interest in wanting to contribute. I know it has for me.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think this is a good move on Ubuntu 's part .
It should create envy in those who do n't meet the criteria to contribute more and work towards a goal .
I think this may help increase interest in wanting to contribute .
I know it has for me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think this is a good move on Ubuntu's part.
It should create envy in those who don't meet the criteria to contribute more and work towards a goal.
I think this may help increase interest in wanting to contribute.
I know it has for me.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30671520</id>
	<title>I'm not much of a joiner</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262801100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There's something about Ubuntu's approach to community wrangling that's a little off putting.  It's not fair to call them cult-like, but there's still a faint odor of that sort of doubleplusgood groupthink going on.</p><p>"Ubuntu Membership itself is a lot less important than what it represents. People often set a goal of becoming an Ubuntu Member because they want one of the many benefits that goes along with it. Instead, people should set a goal of making substantial and sustained contributions to Ubuntu. By doing this, the focus shifts from working hard in order to get one of the Membership benefits to working hard in order to make Ubuntu a greater distribution and improve the community, which is a lot more important than being recognized as an Ubuntu Member."</p><p>They're not just telling us what we ought to be doing, they're telling us what our motivation should be.  It's not enough to do the work, you have to have the proper mindset.</p><p>Other distros are better with the engineering, and not as creepy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's something about Ubuntu 's approach to community wrangling that 's a little off putting .
It 's not fair to call them cult-like , but there 's still a faint odor of that sort of doubleplusgood groupthink going on .
" Ubuntu Membership itself is a lot less important than what it represents .
People often set a goal of becoming an Ubuntu Member because they want one of the many benefits that goes along with it .
Instead , people should set a goal of making substantial and sustained contributions to Ubuntu .
By doing this , the focus shifts from working hard in order to get one of the Membership benefits to working hard in order to make Ubuntu a greater distribution and improve the community , which is a lot more important than being recognized as an Ubuntu Member .
" They 're not just telling us what we ought to be doing , they 're telling us what our motivation should be .
It 's not enough to do the work , you have to have the proper mindset.Other distros are better with the engineering , and not as creepy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's something about Ubuntu's approach to community wrangling that's a little off putting.
It's not fair to call them cult-like, but there's still a faint odor of that sort of doubleplusgood groupthink going on.
"Ubuntu Membership itself is a lot less important than what it represents.
People often set a goal of becoming an Ubuntu Member because they want one of the many benefits that goes along with it.
Instead, people should set a goal of making substantial and sustained contributions to Ubuntu.
By doing this, the focus shifts from working hard in order to get one of the Membership benefits to working hard in order to make Ubuntu a greater distribution and improve the community, which is a lot more important than being recognized as an Ubuntu Member.
"They're not just telling us what we ought to be doing, they're telling us what our motivation should be.
It's not enough to do the work, you have to have the proper mindset.Other distros are better with the engineering, and not as creepy.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30670618</id>
	<title>What?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262797680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>It sounds like one of those dreadful golf clubs - surely there is a better way of recognising significant contributions without the potential for "membership commiittees" screwing things up?</htmltext>
<tokenext>It sounds like one of those dreadful golf clubs - surely there is a better way of recognising significant contributions without the potential for " membership commiittees " screwing things up ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It sounds like one of those dreadful golf clubs - surely there is a better way of recognising significant contributions without the potential for "membership commiittees" screwing things up?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30671232</id>
	<title>Re:Wow.... things have *really* gone downhill</title>
	<author>ThirdPrize</author>
	<datestamp>1262800080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think CmdrTaco was asking who gets to be on the board rather than what is the comittee structure going to be like.  Does the Board consist of Linus and a few cronies?  How much do you have to contribute to get on the board?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think CmdrTaco was asking who gets to be on the board rather than what is the comittee structure going to be like .
Does the Board consist of Linus and a few cronies ?
How much do you have to contribute to get on the board ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think CmdrTaco was asking who gets to be on the board rather than what is the comittee structure going to be like.
Does the Board consist of Linus and a few cronies?
How much do you have to contribute to get on the board?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30670604</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30670572</id>
	<title>What about money contribution?</title>
	<author>B00KER</author>
	<datestamp>1262797500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What about money contribution?</htmltext>
<tokenext>What about money contribution ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What about money contribution?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30671456</id>
	<title>Re:Exclusivity for envy.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262800800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I think this is a good move on Ubuntu's part. It should create envy in those who don't meet the criteria to contribute more and work towards a goal. I think this may help increase interest in wanting to contribute. I know it has for me.</p></div><p>I'm not so sure about that.  On a forum I help to moderate one of the most common questions from newbies is "So what do I have to do to become a Mod around here?".</p><p>They don't want to moderate because they want to help out, they want to moderate because they think being someone with a special badge on their favourite band's forum is awesome.  In the end the forum Admin decided that people couldn't do anything to be a mod: when she thought more were needed they'd be chosen by the current mods.</p><p>I'm sure it will encourage some people to try to help out, but if the summary is right and "You need to convince the membership board that you have contributed to Ubuntu" then I'd say this will just end up with the current community being swamped by a lot of  "Am I there yet?  Am I there yet?  Gimme my freebies!" people that just want the status.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think this is a good move on Ubuntu 's part .
It should create envy in those who do n't meet the criteria to contribute more and work towards a goal .
I think this may help increase interest in wanting to contribute .
I know it has for me.I 'm not so sure about that .
On a forum I help to moderate one of the most common questions from newbies is " So what do I have to do to become a Mod around here ?
" .They do n't want to moderate because they want to help out , they want to moderate because they think being someone with a special badge on their favourite band 's forum is awesome .
In the end the forum Admin decided that people could n't do anything to be a mod : when she thought more were needed they 'd be chosen by the current mods.I 'm sure it will encourage some people to try to help out , but if the summary is right and " You need to convince the membership board that you have contributed to Ubuntu " then I 'd say this will just end up with the current community being swamped by a lot of " Am I there yet ?
Am I there yet ?
Gim me my freebies !
" people that just want the status .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think this is a good move on Ubuntu's part.
It should create envy in those who don't meet the criteria to contribute more and work towards a goal.
I think this may help increase interest in wanting to contribute.
I know it has for me.I'm not so sure about that.
On a forum I help to moderate one of the most common questions from newbies is "So what do I have to do to become a Mod around here?
".They don't want to moderate because they want to help out, they want to moderate because they think being someone with a special badge on their favourite band's forum is awesome.
In the end the forum Admin decided that people couldn't do anything to be a mod: when she thought more were needed they'd be chosen by the current mods.I'm sure it will encourage some people to try to help out, but if the summary is right and "You need to convince the membership board that you have contributed to Ubuntu" then I'd say this will just end up with the current community being swamped by a lot of  "Am I there yet?
Am I there yet?
Gimme my freebies!
" people that just want the status.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30670582</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30670630</id>
	<title>House Party Redux</title>
	<author>alinuxguruofyore</author>
	<datestamp>1262797740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>At least I received a free copy of Windows 7 for having a Windows 7 house party.</htmltext>
<tokenext>At least I received a free copy of Windows 7 for having a Windows 7 house party .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At least I received a free copy of Windows 7 for having a Windows 7 house party.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30674838</id>
	<title>Re:Let me translate</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262772300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I hear you get access to the Ubuntu Awards First Class Download area -- no bandwidth throttling for members!</p></div><p>LOL, even Canonical employees are hit by the bandwidth overload near release time, thats why many of them run local mirrors themselves.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I hear you get access to the Ubuntu Awards First Class Download area -- no bandwidth throttling for members ! LOL , even Canonical employees are hit by the bandwidth overload near release time , thats why many of them run local mirrors themselves .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hear you get access to the Ubuntu Awards First Class Download area -- no bandwidth throttling for members!LOL, even Canonical employees are hit by the bandwidth overload near release time, thats why many of them run local mirrors themselves.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30670918</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30674860</id>
	<title>Re:DD</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262772360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes! Totally agreed! Damn Ubuntu for creating a system from open-source components. Damn them for publishing the source, in compliance with the letter and spirit of the GPL, even for BSD licensed projects. Damn them for adding so much awesome to Linux and then hiding it on publicly accessible servers instead of spoon-feeding it back into hostile, whiny upstream projects! It's totally Ubuntu's fault!!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes !
Totally agreed !
Damn Ubuntu for creating a system from open-source components .
Damn them for publishing the source , in compliance with the letter and spirit of the GPL , even for BSD licensed projects .
Damn them for adding so much awesome to Linux and then hiding it on publicly accessible servers instead of spoon-feeding it back into hostile , whiny upstream projects !
It 's totally Ubuntu 's fault ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes!
Totally agreed!
Damn Ubuntu for creating a system from open-source components.
Damn them for publishing the source, in compliance with the letter and spirit of the GPL, even for BSD licensed projects.
Damn them for adding so much awesome to Linux and then hiding it on publicly accessible servers instead of spoon-feeding it back into hostile, whiny upstream projects!
It's totally Ubuntu's fault!!
!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30671046</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30671156</id>
	<title>differences</title>
	<author>SuperBanana</author>
	<datestamp>1262799780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>There's difference between "who decided what a significant contribution is defined as", "what a significant contribution is", and "who decides if you meet that criteria."

<p>It's a perfectly fair question.  The membership board needs to have defined standards; if they're just willy-nilly casting votes yes/no, and they're "members", then the membership is almost certainly going to consist of a very small group of people who hold the same opinions (or are friends / business partners.)

</p><p>They also should be held responsible to someone.  Otherwise, they can do whatever the hell they want, including ignore guidelines given to them.

</p><p>This may come as a shock to some of the younger (in terms of age/maturity) members of slashdot, but corporate governance is complicated, and little things matter. Just like with civil and criminal law.  Think of that the next time Slashdot posts a "some judge did X" story and you all pile on the "how stupid" bandwagon.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's difference between " who decided what a significant contribution is defined as " , " what a significant contribution is " , and " who decides if you meet that criteria .
" It 's a perfectly fair question .
The membership board needs to have defined standards ; if they 're just willy-nilly casting votes yes/no , and they 're " members " , then the membership is almost certainly going to consist of a very small group of people who hold the same opinions ( or are friends / business partners .
) They also should be held responsible to someone .
Otherwise , they can do whatever the hell they want , including ignore guidelines given to them .
This may come as a shock to some of the younger ( in terms of age/maturity ) members of slashdot , but corporate governance is complicated , and little things matter .
Just like with civil and criminal law .
Think of that the next time Slashdot posts a " some judge did X " story and you all pile on the " how stupid " bandwagon .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's difference between "who decided what a significant contribution is defined as", "what a significant contribution is", and "who decides if you meet that criteria.
"

It's a perfectly fair question.
The membership board needs to have defined standards; if they're just willy-nilly casting votes yes/no, and they're "members", then the membership is almost certainly going to consist of a very small group of people who hold the same opinions (or are friends / business partners.
)

They also should be held responsible to someone.
Otherwise, they can do whatever the hell they want, including ignore guidelines given to them.
This may come as a shock to some of the younger (in terms of age/maturity) members of slashdot, but corporate governance is complicated, and little things matter.
Just like with civil and criminal law.
Think of that the next time Slashdot posts a "some judge did X" story and you all pile on the "how stupid" bandwagon.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30670742</id>
	<title>Reminds me</title>
	<author>gmuslera</author>
	<datestamp>1262798100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ads Disabled x<br>Thanks again for helping make Slashdot great!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ads Disabled xThanks again for helping make Slashdot great !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ads Disabled xThanks again for helping make Slashdot great!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30684194</id>
	<title>Re:...chewie</title>
	<author>2muchcoffeeman</author>
	<datestamp>1262886960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ladies and gentlemen, the nominations for Best Slashdot Analogy of 2010 is now closed. Congratulations, Mr. Boyko, on your prize of 500 Tanzanian shillings.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ladies and gentlemen , the nominations for Best Slashdot Analogy of 2010 is now closed .
Congratulations , Mr. Boyko , on your prize of 500 Tanzanian shillings .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ladies and gentlemen, the nominations for Best Slashdot Analogy of 2010 is now closed.
Congratulations, Mr. Boyko, on your prize of 500 Tanzanian shillings.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30673246</id>
	<title>Re:Let me translate</title>
	<author>nxtw</author>
	<datestamp>1262808060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>You don't just pay a fee, but you actually help. It's like working in the soup kitchen versus giving money to the homeless shelter.</p></div></blockquote><p>I would imagine paying for Red Hat Enterprise Linux or SUSE Linux Enterprise has a much bigger impact than helping Ubuntu directly.  <a href="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RedHatContributions" title="fedoraproject.org">Red Hat is a big contributor to extremely important projects</a> [fedoraproject.org] such as the Linux kernel, GCC, glibc, Gtk, and GNOME.  They (or companies they have since acquired) created GFS, LVM2, and KVM, and they maintain a lot of other projects that make up any modern Linux distribution.</p><p>I can't find a similar list for Novell, but they are the second biggest contributor to the Linux kernel.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>You do n't just pay a fee , but you actually help .
It 's like working in the soup kitchen versus giving money to the homeless shelter.I would imagine paying for Red Hat Enterprise Linux or SUSE Linux Enterprise has a much bigger impact than helping Ubuntu directly .
Red Hat is a big contributor to extremely important projects [ fedoraproject.org ] such as the Linux kernel , GCC , glibc , Gtk , and GNOME .
They ( or companies they have since acquired ) created GFS , LVM2 , and KVM , and they maintain a lot of other projects that make up any modern Linux distribution.I ca n't find a similar list for Novell , but they are the second biggest contributor to the Linux kernel .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You don't just pay a fee, but you actually help.
It's like working in the soup kitchen versus giving money to the homeless shelter.I would imagine paying for Red Hat Enterprise Linux or SUSE Linux Enterprise has a much bigger impact than helping Ubuntu directly.
Red Hat is a big contributor to extremely important projects [fedoraproject.org] such as the Linux kernel, GCC, glibc, Gtk, and GNOME.
They (or companies they have since acquired) created GFS, LVM2, and KVM, and they maintain a lot of other projects that make up any modern Linux distribution.I can't find a similar list for Novell, but they are the second biggest contributor to the Linux kernel.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30671348</id>
	<title>Re:Let me translate</title>
	<author>CRCulver</author>
	<datestamp>1262800380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>You don't just pay a fee, but you actually help. It's like working in the soup kitchen versus giving money to the homeless shelter.</p></div> </blockquote><p>People with two strong hands to work are a dime a dozen. People with the skills to generate capital are sadly not so common. The person paying money to a charity so that it can hire employees to carry out charitable activities is just as important as those employees themselves. In today's European welfare states, governments carefully manage the economy to ensure that people can still make a lot of money and thus continue to pay high taxes to maintain services.</p><p>Working in certain jobs is helpful, but it's more self-help as you learn values like humility and patience. In you are talking about actual results, professionals are more effective than simple volunteers (notice the most productive kernel hackers are salaried now).</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>You do n't just pay a fee , but you actually help .
It 's like working in the soup kitchen versus giving money to the homeless shelter .
People with two strong hands to work are a dime a dozen .
People with the skills to generate capital are sadly not so common .
The person paying money to a charity so that it can hire employees to carry out charitable activities is just as important as those employees themselves .
In today 's European welfare states , governments carefully manage the economy to ensure that people can still make a lot of money and thus continue to pay high taxes to maintain services.Working in certain jobs is helpful , but it 's more self-help as you learn values like humility and patience .
In you are talking about actual results , professionals are more effective than simple volunteers ( notice the most productive kernel hackers are salaried now ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You don't just pay a fee, but you actually help.
It's like working in the soup kitchen versus giving money to the homeless shelter.
People with two strong hands to work are a dime a dozen.
People with the skills to generate capital are sadly not so common.
The person paying money to a charity so that it can hire employees to carry out charitable activities is just as important as those employees themselves.
In today's European welfare states, governments carefully manage the economy to ensure that people can still make a lot of money and thus continue to pay high taxes to maintain services.Working in certain jobs is helpful, but it's more self-help as you learn values like humility and patience.
In you are talking about actual results, professionals are more effective than simple volunteers (notice the most productive kernel hackers are salaried now).
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30672250</id>
	<title>You Didn't Read Yourself</title>
	<author>segedunum</author>
	<datestamp>1262803980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Unfortunately, it seems as if some people can't discern meaning from the English language, and that's just to be expect with some of the people here on Slashdot.<br> <br>

Yes, there is a membership board but it is perfectly reasonable to question who is on that board and what criteria they use or will use. The second statement does that. The two statements you've quoted are not the same thing and the former does not answer the latter. OK, the latter is not great English, but fuck, this is Slashdot and with the amount of articles posted you aren't always going to get a perfect summary.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Unfortunately , it seems as if some people ca n't discern meaning from the English language , and that 's just to be expect with some of the people here on Slashdot .
Yes , there is a membership board but it is perfectly reasonable to question who is on that board and what criteria they use or will use .
The second statement does that .
The two statements you 've quoted are not the same thing and the former does not answer the latter .
OK , the latter is not great English , but fuck , this is Slashdot and with the amount of articles posted you are n't always going to get a perfect summary .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unfortunately, it seems as if some people can't discern meaning from the English language, and that's just to be expect with some of the people here on Slashdot.
Yes, there is a membership board but it is perfectly reasonable to question who is on that board and what criteria they use or will use.
The second statement does that.
The two statements you've quoted are not the same thing and the former does not answer the latter.
OK, the latter is not great English, but fuck, this is Slashdot and with the amount of articles posted you aren't always going to get a perfect summary.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30676510</id>
	<title>Re:Ubuntu questioned</title>
	<author>thtrgremlin</author>
	<datestamp>1262780160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Because contributing is not zero sum. For example, if I see something I like that I want to contribute to, I will. I contribute if and when it is fun. Other people do it for different reasons, and it is all open source. If you give people the freedom to do what they want, they will, and other than that you can only discourage people from contributing. Developers for the purpose of furthering a specific feature are only limited in proprietary / employment positions where the limit is money. Encourage people to contribute or let people know that no contribution is too small, and people will open up to the idea of contributing. Tell them "your contribution sucks, why don't you do 'xyz'", at best they will ignore you, but they may also just shrug and say "f*** it".<br> <br>Though I guess this is also unsolicited advice you are going to ignore which was exactly my point. Just because a developer works for "free" doesn't make them a slave. They work on what benefits / rewards them.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Because contributing is not zero sum .
For example , if I see something I like that I want to contribute to , I will .
I contribute if and when it is fun .
Other people do it for different reasons , and it is all open source .
If you give people the freedom to do what they want , they will , and other than that you can only discourage people from contributing .
Developers for the purpose of furthering a specific feature are only limited in proprietary / employment positions where the limit is money .
Encourage people to contribute or let people know that no contribution is too small , and people will open up to the idea of contributing .
Tell them " your contribution sucks , why do n't you do 'xyz ' " , at best they will ignore you , but they may also just shrug and say " f * * * it " .
Though I guess this is also unsolicited advice you are going to ignore which was exactly my point .
Just because a developer works for " free " does n't make them a slave .
They work on what benefits / rewards them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because contributing is not zero sum.
For example, if I see something I like that I want to contribute to, I will.
I contribute if and when it is fun.
Other people do it for different reasons, and it is all open source.
If you give people the freedom to do what they want, they will, and other than that you can only discourage people from contributing.
Developers for the purpose of furthering a specific feature are only limited in proprietary / employment positions where the limit is money.
Encourage people to contribute or let people know that no contribution is too small, and people will open up to the idea of contributing.
Tell them "your contribution sucks, why don't you do 'xyz'", at best they will ignore you, but they may also just shrug and say "f*** it".
Though I guess this is also unsolicited advice you are going to ignore which was exactly my point.
Just because a developer works for "free" doesn't make them a slave.
They work on what benefits / rewards them.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30671474</id>
	<title>openSUSE members</title>
	<author>Enderandrew</author>
	<datestamp>1262800920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>openSUSE has had a very similar program for some time.</p><p><a href="http://en.opensuse.org/Members" title="opensuse.org">http://en.opensuse.org/Members</a> [opensuse.org]</p><p>Members get to vote on the board, and get a free boxed/retail copy of each openSUSE release.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>openSUSE has had a very similar program for some time.http : //en.opensuse.org/Members [ opensuse.org ] Members get to vote on the board , and get a free boxed/retail copy of each openSUSE release .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>openSUSE has had a very similar program for some time.http://en.opensuse.org/Members [opensuse.org]Members get to vote on the board, and get a free boxed/retail copy of each openSUSE release.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30671866</id>
	<title>Re:Exclusivity for envy.</title>
	<author>larry bagina</author>
	<datestamp>1262802540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Maybe you're too young to remember when Red Hat had their IPO and reserved a block of stock for some open source contributors they deemed worthy.  It managed to piss off people, both those included and those excluded.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe you 're too young to remember when Red Hat had their IPO and reserved a block of stock for some open source contributors they deemed worthy .
It managed to piss off people , both those included and those excluded .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe you're too young to remember when Red Hat had their IPO and reserved a block of stock for some open source contributors they deemed worthy.
It managed to piss off people, both those included and those excluded.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30670688</id>
	<title>Is there a suggestion box?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262797920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Do I get to complain about lame mono apps being included in favor of better gtk or KDE ones.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do I get to complain about lame mono apps being included in favor of better gtk or KDE ones .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do I get to complain about lame mono apps being included in favor of better gtk or KDE ones.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30679886</id>
	<title>Re:</title>
	<author>clint999</author>
	<datestamp>1262896200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>We're here to determine whether you might be worthy of receiving a free t-shirt. I hear you get access to the Ubuntu Awards First Class Download area </i></htmltext>
<tokenext>We 're here to determine whether you might be worthy of receiving a free t-shirt .
I hear you get access to the Ubuntu Awards First Class Download area</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We're here to determine whether you might be worthy of receiving a free t-shirt.
I hear you get access to the Ubuntu Awards First Class Download area </sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30672096</id>
	<title>Re:Not news</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262803320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Agreed. I've been a member since 2005.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Agreed .
I 've been a member since 2005 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Agreed.
I've been a member since 2005.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30670842</id>
	<title>This is nothing new</title>
	<author>akeyes</author>
	<datestamp>1262798400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This has existed for a number of years now...</htmltext>
<tokenext>This has existed for a number of years now.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This has existed for a number of years now...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30671032</id>
	<title>Blast from the past</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262799240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <i>(and one of the benefits of the membership is</i> </p><p><div class="quote"><p>Voting privileges to confirm Ubuntu Community Council nominations</p></div><p>Wow. Just like voting in the former Soviet Union. Glad somebody is keeping old traditions alive.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>( and one of the benefits of the membership is Voting privileges to confirm Ubuntu Community Council nominationsWow .
Just like voting in the former Soviet Union .
Glad somebody is keeping old traditions alive .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> (and one of the benefits of the membership is Voting privileges to confirm Ubuntu Community Council nominationsWow.
Just like voting in the former Soviet Union.
Glad somebody is keeping old traditions alive.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30673490</id>
	<title>Re:...chewie</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262809140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You are my hero.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You are my hero .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You are my hero.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30671734</id>
	<title>Re:Reminds me</title>
	<author>nine-times</author>
	<datestamp>1262802000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Personally I think stuff like that is pretty good.  If you want to motivate people to work hard, sometimes you just have to show them that their work is appreciated.  There are a wide variety of ways to show it, so pick one.  Showing your appreciation becomes all the more important in these sorts of collaborative efforts where contributors aren't being paid.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Personally I think stuff like that is pretty good .
If you want to motivate people to work hard , sometimes you just have to show them that their work is appreciated .
There are a wide variety of ways to show it , so pick one .
Showing your appreciation becomes all the more important in these sorts of collaborative efforts where contributors are n't being paid .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Personally I think stuff like that is pretty good.
If you want to motivate people to work hard, sometimes you just have to show them that their work is appreciated.
There are a wide variety of ways to show it, so pick one.
Showing your appreciation becomes all the more important in these sorts of collaborative efforts where contributors aren't being paid.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30670696</id>
	<title>Why not?</title>
	<author>drinkypoo</author>
	<datestamp>1262797920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You already have to [digitally] sign a document and agree to a code of conduct in order to become an "Ubuntero", which among other minor benefits is necessary in order to get access to the PPA system. This is just another layer of evaluation for another icon next to your name on Ubuntu sites and... whatever it was they're giving you. In return, they give you the right to represent yourself as a "member" of Ubuntu, kind of like an employee except you don't get paid<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You already have to [ digitally ] sign a document and agree to a code of conduct in order to become an " Ubuntero " , which among other minor benefits is necessary in order to get access to the PPA system .
This is just another layer of evaluation for another icon next to your name on Ubuntu sites and... whatever it was they 're giving you .
In return , they give you the right to represent yourself as a " member " of Ubuntu , kind of like an employee except you do n't get paid : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You already have to [digitally] sign a document and agree to a code of conduct in order to become an "Ubuntero", which among other minor benefits is necessary in order to get access to the PPA system.
This is just another layer of evaluation for another icon next to your name on Ubuntu sites and... whatever it was they're giving you.
In return, they give you the right to represent yourself as a "member" of Ubuntu, kind of like an employee except you don't get paid :)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30670604</id>
	<title>Wow.... things have *really* gone downhill</title>
	<author>schon</author>
	<datestamp>1262797620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>You need to convince the <b>membership board</b> [...] And who judged what is a 'significant' contribution</p></div><p>This is amazing... we've gone from people not reading the articles, to not reading the *summaries*, to the *submitters* not reading what they themselves wrote!</p><p>CmdrTaco, I know it's tradition for editors not to read the summaries, but isn't it taking it a bit far to not read <i>ones you wrote yourself</i>?!?!?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>You need to convince the membership board [ ... ] And who judged what is a 'significant ' contributionThis is amazing... we 've gone from people not reading the articles , to not reading the * summaries * , to the * submitters * not reading what they themselves wrote ! CmdrTaco , I know it 's tradition for editors not to read the summaries , but is n't it taking it a bit far to not read ones you wrote yourself ? ! ? !
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You need to convince the membership board [...] And who judged what is a 'significant' contributionThis is amazing... we've gone from people not reading the articles, to not reading the *summaries*, to the *submitters* not reading what they themselves wrote!CmdrTaco, I know it's tradition for editors not to read the summaries, but isn't it taking it a bit far to not read ones you wrote yourself?!?!
?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30671130</id>
	<title>Re:Is there a suggestion box?</title>
	<author>LWATCDR</author>
	<datestamp>1262799660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If they are not in the repository yes.<br>If they not in the install no. Just create your own distro or use another one.<br>Well yea you can complain anyway but are the gtk and KDE apps really better or just not mono?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If they are not in the repository yes.If they not in the install no .
Just create your own distro or use another one.Well yea you can complain anyway but are the gtk and KDE apps really better or just not mono ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If they are not in the repository yes.If they not in the install no.
Just create your own distro or use another one.Well yea you can complain anyway but are the gtk and KDE apps really better or just not mono?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30676428</id>
	<title>Membership is not that difficult</title>
	<author>duncan</author>
	<datestamp>1262779800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm a member and I've never contributed a piece of code.</p><p>I do a bit of bug triaging and reporting on Launchpad. I work with the Loco here and people locally to get involved and educated in free software using Ubuntu.</p><p>If you ask me the membership doesn't do much overall. The major reason I went for it was to get the @ubuntu.com email address that l think helps on the advocacy front when I give someone my business card. Makes it seem more legit in some way.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm a member and I 've never contributed a piece of code.I do a bit of bug triaging and reporting on Launchpad .
I work with the Loco here and people locally to get involved and educated in free software using Ubuntu.If you ask me the membership does n't do much overall .
The major reason I went for it was to get the @ ubuntu.com email address that l think helps on the advocacy front when I give someone my business card .
Makes it seem more legit in some way .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm a member and I've never contributed a piece of code.I do a bit of bug triaging and reporting on Launchpad.
I work with the Loco here and people locally to get involved and educated in free software using Ubuntu.If you ask me the membership doesn't do much overall.
The major reason I went for it was to get the @ubuntu.com email address that l think helps on the advocacy front when I give someone my business card.
Makes it seem more legit in some way.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30670762</id>
	<title>Not news</title>
	<author>flimm</author>
	<datestamp>1262798160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ubuntu membership has not been introduced recently, it has been around from before I started Ubuntu (2006), at least. This is not news. The title needs changing.<br> <br>Ubuntu members get @ubuntu.com addresses, their blogs syndicated on planet.ubuntu.com, a free subscription to LWN, and they vote for certain things.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ubuntu membership has not been introduced recently , it has been around from before I started Ubuntu ( 2006 ) , at least .
This is not news .
The title needs changing .
Ubuntu members get @ ubuntu.com addresses , their blogs syndicated on planet.ubuntu.com , a free subscription to LWN , and they vote for certain things .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ubuntu membership has not been introduced recently, it has been around from before I started Ubuntu (2006), at least.
This is not news.
The title needs changing.
Ubuntu members get @ubuntu.com addresses, their blogs syndicated on planet.ubuntu.com, a free subscription to LWN, and they vote for certain things.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30670840</id>
	<title>What about indirect contributions?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262798400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What if I was out drinking (heavily) one night with Mark Shuttleworth and I told him about this crazy computer idea I had.</p><p>Who knows, maybe Ubuntu was a direct result of me processing tequilla shots!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What if I was out drinking ( heavily ) one night with Mark Shuttleworth and I told him about this crazy computer idea I had.Who knows , maybe Ubuntu was a direct result of me processing tequilla shots !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What if I was out drinking (heavily) one night with Mark Shuttleworth and I told him about this crazy computer idea I had.Who knows, maybe Ubuntu was a direct result of me processing tequilla shots!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30671166</id>
	<title>Re:Not news</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262799780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Ubuntu membership has not been introduced recently, it has been around from before I started Ubuntu (2006), at least. This is not news. The title needs changing.</p></div><p>Which could have been determined by Taco with just a little basic research. An e-mail. A text message. Anything.</p><p>I'm trying to decide whose failure was more epic: Taco (lack of fact-checking) or mxh83 (lack of knowledge). Leaning towards Taco as the "winner." Any thoughts, folks?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ubuntu membership has not been introduced recently , it has been around from before I started Ubuntu ( 2006 ) , at least .
This is not news .
The title needs changing.Which could have been determined by Taco with just a little basic research .
An e-mail .
A text message .
Anything.I 'm trying to decide whose failure was more epic : Taco ( lack of fact-checking ) or mxh83 ( lack of knowledge ) .
Leaning towards Taco as the " winner .
" Any thoughts , folks ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ubuntu membership has not been introduced recently, it has been around from before I started Ubuntu (2006), at least.
This is not news.
The title needs changing.Which could have been determined by Taco with just a little basic research.
An e-mail.
A text message.
Anything.I'm trying to decide whose failure was more epic: Taco (lack of fact-checking) or mxh83 (lack of knowledge).
Leaning towards Taco as the "winner.
" Any thoughts, folks?
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_06_1420209.30671124</id>
	<title>...chewie</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262799600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wouldn't worry too much about that.</p><p>Like, okay, you know in Star Wars, when Leia hands out medals to Luke and Han, but Chewie's just standing there on the podium - he doesn't get a medal?</p><p>Well, here's the thing, if you're an Ubuntu contributor and you're chosen for membership, it's like getting those medals.  But if you're an Ubuntu contributor, and you're not chosen for membership, you're like Chewie - no medal.  But that's not a bad thing, because, you know what?  Chewie is standing up there on the podium too, and you know what, it doesn't matter if he gets a medal - because Chewie is a frickin' bad ass, and Chewie knows it.</p><p>Hell, the only reason Chewie doesn't get a medal is cause he's got like 20 or so of his own from back in the day.  Let the noobs have some fun, you know?  Besides, if he wanted too, he could take that medal from whiny-boy or smirk-merc.  Lightsabers?  Blasters?  They're no use when you fuggin' rip their arms out of their sockets.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would n't worry too much about that.Like , okay , you know in Star Wars , when Leia hands out medals to Luke and Han , but Chewie 's just standing there on the podium - he does n't get a medal ? Well , here 's the thing , if you 're an Ubuntu contributor and you 're chosen for membership , it 's like getting those medals .
But if you 're an Ubuntu contributor , and you 're not chosen for membership , you 're like Chewie - no medal .
But that 's not a bad thing , because , you know what ?
Chewie is standing up there on the podium too , and you know what , it does n't matter if he gets a medal - because Chewie is a frickin ' bad ass , and Chewie knows it.Hell , the only reason Chewie does n't get a medal is cause he 's got like 20 or so of his own from back in the day .
Let the noobs have some fun , you know ?
Besides , if he wanted too , he could take that medal from whiny-boy or smirk-merc .
Lightsabers ? Blasters ?
They 're no use when you fuggin ' rip their arms out of their sockets .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wouldn't worry too much about that.Like, okay, you know in Star Wars, when Leia hands out medals to Luke and Han, but Chewie's just standing there on the podium - he doesn't get a medal?Well, here's the thing, if you're an Ubuntu contributor and you're chosen for membership, it's like getting those medals.
But if you're an Ubuntu contributor, and you're not chosen for membership, you're like Chewie - no medal.
But that's not a bad thing, because, you know what?
Chewie is standing up there on the podium too, and you know what, it doesn't matter if he gets a medal - because Chewie is a frickin' bad ass, and Chewie knows it.Hell, the only reason Chewie doesn't get a medal is cause he's got like 20 or so of his own from back in the day.
Let the noobs have some fun, you know?
Besides, if he wanted too, he could take that medal from whiny-boy or smirk-merc.
Lightsabers?  Blasters?
They're no use when you fuggin' rip their arms out of their sockets.</sentencetext>
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