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	<title>Living In Tokyo's Capsule Hotels<span class="vballoon-marquee rd\_5"><span>Comments:</span><a href="#">269</a></span></title>
	<author>samzenpus</author>
	<datestamp>1262684040000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>afabbro writes <i>"Capsule Hotel Shinjuku 510 once offered a night&rsquo;s refuge to salarymen who had missed the last train home. Now with Japan enduring its worst recession since World War II, it is becoming an <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/02/business/global/02capsule.html">affordable option for people with nowhere else to go</a>. The Hotel 510&rsquo;s capsules are only  6 1/2 feet long by 5 feet wide. Guests must keep possessions, like shirts and shaving cream, in lockers outside of the capsules. Atsushi Nakanishi, jobless since Christmas says, 'It&rsquo;s just a place to crawl into and sleep. You get used to it.'&rdquo;</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>afabbro writes " Capsule Hotel Shinjuku 510 once offered a night    s refuge to salarymen who had missed the last train home .
Now with Japan enduring its worst recession since World War II , it is becoming an affordable option for people with nowhere else to go .
The Hotel 510    s capsules are only 6 1/2 feet long by 5 feet wide .
Guests must keep possessions , like shirts and shaving cream , in lockers outside of the capsules .
Atsushi Nakanishi , jobless since Christmas says , 'It    s just a place to crawl into and sleep .
You get used to it .
'   </tokentext>
<sentencetext>afabbro writes "Capsule Hotel Shinjuku 510 once offered a night’s refuge to salarymen who had missed the last train home.
Now with Japan enduring its worst recession since World War II, it is becoming an affordable option for people with nowhere else to go.
The Hotel 510’s capsules are only  6 1/2 feet long by 5 feet wide.
Guests must keep possessions, like shirts and shaving cream, in lockers outside of the capsules.
Atsushi Nakanishi, jobless since Christmas says, 'It’s just a place to crawl into and sleep.
You get used to it.
'”</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30661050</id>
	<title>Sounds like the Navy.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262687760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>I did 6 months of that multiple times.  Its not too bad.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I did 6 months of that multiple times .
Its not too bad .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I did 6 months of that multiple times.
Its not too bad.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30666638</id>
	<title>There is NO population shortage</title>
	<author>iamacat</author>
	<datestamp>1262809920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We are 6.7 billion and counting. Japan itself has 1/3 of US population in an area of a single state. If they want more people, all they need is issue some immigrant visas to residence of somewhat less affluent (but not necessarily dirt poor/crime riden) countries. The way the world is now there is absolutely no reason to push any woman to have more children.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We are 6.7 billion and counting .
Japan itself has 1/3 of US population in an area of a single state .
If they want more people , all they need is issue some immigrant visas to residence of somewhat less affluent ( but not necessarily dirt poor/crime riden ) countries .
The way the world is now there is absolutely no reason to push any woman to have more children .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We are 6.7 billion and counting.
Japan itself has 1/3 of US population in an area of a single state.
If they want more people, all they need is issue some immigrant visas to residence of somewhat less affluent (but not necessarily dirt poor/crime riden) countries.
The way the world is now there is absolutely no reason to push any woman to have more children.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30662660</id>
	<title>Re:Sounds like the Navy.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262695200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I stayed in one in Osaka for 4 straight days. Day one was weird and I dreaded the thought of dieing and having that for my epitaph. Then I got used to it.  They're as unwholesome and sterile as Japanese salarymen but they're no too bad for a small period. Don't expect pleasant dreams. One good thing though, is there are usually public baths in the hotel too. Actually,. at first it reminded me of the movie Alien.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I stayed in one in Osaka for 4 straight days .
Day one was weird and I dreaded the thought of dieing and having that for my epitaph .
Then I got used to it .
They 're as unwholesome and sterile as Japanese salarymen but they 're no too bad for a small period .
Do n't expect pleasant dreams .
One good thing though , is there are usually public baths in the hotel too .
Actually,. at first it reminded me of the movie Alien .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I stayed in one in Osaka for 4 straight days.
Day one was weird and I dreaded the thought of dieing and having that for my epitaph.
Then I got used to it.
They're as unwholesome and sterile as Japanese salarymen but they're no too bad for a small period.
Don't expect pleasant dreams.
One good thing though, is there are usually public baths in the hotel too.
Actually,. at first it reminded me of the movie Alien.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30663414</id>
	<title>Re:Their own damned fault</title>
	<author>Qzukk</author>
	<datestamp>1262698680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>blah blah blah you too can be an Alpha or a Beta blah blah</i></p><p>Taunting the Epsilons and Deltas is bad form.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>blah blah blah you too can be an Alpha or a Beta blah blahTaunting the Epsilons and Deltas is bad form .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>blah blah blah you too can be an Alpha or a Beta blah blahTaunting the Epsilons and Deltas is bad form.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30661434</id>
	<title>Re:Very affordable</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262689320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Oh, yes, it's very affordable. $600+ a month can easily buy you a decent apartment pretty much anywhere else</p></div><p>Haha what? $600 a month wouldn't rent you the worst hovel in this city. That's a pretty affordable deal in most cities, let alone Tokyo.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh , yes , it 's very affordable .
$ 600 + a month can easily buy you a decent apartment pretty much anywhere elseHaha what ?
$ 600 a month would n't rent you the worst hovel in this city .
That 's a pretty affordable deal in most cities , let alone Tokyo .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh, yes, it's very affordable.
$600+ a month can easily buy you a decent apartment pretty much anywhere elseHaha what?
$600 a month wouldn't rent you the worst hovel in this city.
That's a pretty affordable deal in most cities, let alone Tokyo.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30663228</id>
	<title>Now I Lay Me Down To Sleep</title>
	<author>mindbrane</author>
	<datestamp>1262697720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They spooked me a bit but then I'm a little claustrophobic. I was doing business with one a company who had developed one and I was given a tour. They also reminded me of the sort of thing William Gibson described in Neuromancer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They spooked me a bit but then I 'm a little claustrophobic .
I was doing business with one a company who had developed one and I was given a tour .
They also reminded me of the sort of thing William Gibson described in Neuromancer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They spooked me a bit but then I'm a little claustrophobic.
I was doing business with one a company who had developed one and I was given a tour.
They also reminded me of the sort of thing William Gibson described in Neuromancer.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30661484</id>
	<title>I don't think I would be welcome.</title>
	<author>irright</author>
	<datestamp>1262689440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I would get beaten to death by other patrons who didn't appreciate my revving-dirtbike-level snoring.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I would get beaten to death by other patrons who did n't appreciate my revving-dirtbike-level snoring .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would get beaten to death by other patrons who didn't appreciate my revving-dirtbike-level snoring.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:nothing beats a good all night dutch-oven</title>
	<author>kaini</author>
	<datestamp>1262695140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>mod parent funny!</htmltext>
<tokenext>mod parent funny !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>mod parent funny!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30663184</id>
	<title>This really can only work in Japan</title>
	<author>caywen</author>
	<datestamp>1262697540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The capsule motels, despite the cigarette smoke, are actually quite nice inside. The only reason this works is that the Japanese value cleanliness more than most other cultures, and even the perpetually unemployed tend to pick up their own trash. Here in San Francisco, I'm sure the floors would be riddled with needles and the stench would pervade over a 3 block radius.</p><p>Also, I'm pretty sure they like to rent out the lower bunks first as I can see major injuries occurring with drunken salarymen trying to get their head into the second row.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The capsule motels , despite the cigarette smoke , are actually quite nice inside .
The only reason this works is that the Japanese value cleanliness more than most other cultures , and even the perpetually unemployed tend to pick up their own trash .
Here in San Francisco , I 'm sure the floors would be riddled with needles and the stench would pervade over a 3 block radius.Also , I 'm pretty sure they like to rent out the lower bunks first as I can see major injuries occurring with drunken salarymen trying to get their head into the second row .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The capsule motels, despite the cigarette smoke, are actually quite nice inside.
The only reason this works is that the Japanese value cleanliness more than most other cultures, and even the perpetually unemployed tend to pick up their own trash.
Here in San Francisco, I'm sure the floors would be riddled with needles and the stench would pervade over a 3 block radius.Also, I'm pretty sure they like to rent out the lower bunks first as I can see major injuries occurring with drunken salarymen trying to get their head into the second row.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30661978</id>
	<title>Re:Westerners</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262691720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually that's a thorny problem. Obviously a society that does not have it's women have at least 2.1 children <i>average</i> dies (and given the number of problems, medical and otherwise, that means every woman should strive to put between 3 and 4 children on this world. And frankly, especially in Japan, if women are "baby making machines" they're not doing their job (and neither are the men, of course. But obviously babies don't appear out of nowhere and a woman will be out of comission for 5 months at least, not counting childcare afterwards. The man will not (maybe a week). Please direct all complaints to God (or Darwin, if you prefer). The chances for an answer seem limited).</p><p>Now obviously there are lots of ways one might induce women to have children. But none of the "stimulation" methods have worked in the west. At least not sufficiently to get to replacement level. So what is a society to do ? Those rural areas with "fewer acceptable roles", are much, much closer to 2.1 than the urban environments<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p><p>Obviously, if this is true, and evolution works as advertised, then only societies with "fewer acceptable roles for women" will survive. The differences in reproduction worldwide between human groups are 800\%. Given that entire species have disappeared as a result of less than 1\% difference in fertility<nobr> <wbr></nobr>....And before you say "that takes millenia". Well, no. A 1\% difference in fertility will make the less productive species disappear in some 50 generations (if it's racial differences, interbreeding speeds up this process enormously, if cultural differences it is a lot faster still). For humans 50 generations would be a millenium. But the differences are not 1\%, but up to 800\% (and realistically the differences are 200\% at least in western countries).</p><p>And frankly, what do you think is best for women. Life with "fewer acceptable roles", like in mid-20th-century rural environment in the west ? Or like today under the students of islam ("taliban" in pashtun) and their counterparts elsewhere ?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually that 's a thorny problem .
Obviously a society that does not have it 's women have at least 2.1 children average dies ( and given the number of problems , medical and otherwise , that means every woman should strive to put between 3 and 4 children on this world .
And frankly , especially in Japan , if women are " baby making machines " they 're not doing their job ( and neither are the men , of course .
But obviously babies do n't appear out of nowhere and a woman will be out of comission for 5 months at least , not counting childcare afterwards .
The man will not ( maybe a week ) .
Please direct all complaints to God ( or Darwin , if you prefer ) .
The chances for an answer seem limited ) .Now obviously there are lots of ways one might induce women to have children .
But none of the " stimulation " methods have worked in the west .
At least not sufficiently to get to replacement level .
So what is a society to do ?
Those rural areas with " fewer acceptable roles " , are much , much closer to 2.1 than the urban environments ...Obviously , if this is true , and evolution works as advertised , then only societies with " fewer acceptable roles for women " will survive .
The differences in reproduction worldwide between human groups are 800 \ % .
Given that entire species have disappeared as a result of less than 1 \ % difference in fertility ....And before you say " that takes millenia " .
Well , no .
A 1 \ % difference in fertility will make the less productive species disappear in some 50 generations ( if it 's racial differences , interbreeding speeds up this process enormously , if cultural differences it is a lot faster still ) .
For humans 50 generations would be a millenium .
But the differences are not 1 \ % , but up to 800 \ % ( and realistically the differences are 200 \ % at least in western countries ) .And frankly , what do you think is best for women .
Life with " fewer acceptable roles " , like in mid-20th-century rural environment in the west ?
Or like today under the students of islam ( " taliban " in pashtun ) and their counterparts elsewhere ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually that's a thorny problem.
Obviously a society that does not have it's women have at least 2.1 children average dies (and given the number of problems, medical and otherwise, that means every woman should strive to put between 3 and 4 children on this world.
And frankly, especially in Japan, if women are "baby making machines" they're not doing their job (and neither are the men, of course.
But obviously babies don't appear out of nowhere and a woman will be out of comission for 5 months at least, not counting childcare afterwards.
The man will not (maybe a week).
Please direct all complaints to God (or Darwin, if you prefer).
The chances for an answer seem limited).Now obviously there are lots of ways one might induce women to have children.
But none of the "stimulation" methods have worked in the west.
At least not sufficiently to get to replacement level.
So what is a society to do ?
Those rural areas with "fewer acceptable roles", are much, much closer to 2.1 than the urban environments ...Obviously, if this is true, and evolution works as advertised, then only societies with "fewer acceptable roles for women" will survive.
The differences in reproduction worldwide between human groups are 800\%.
Given that entire species have disappeared as a result of less than 1\% difference in fertility ....And before you say "that takes millenia".
Well, no.
A 1\% difference in fertility will make the less productive species disappear in some 50 generations (if it's racial differences, interbreeding speeds up this process enormously, if cultural differences it is a lot faster still).
For humans 50 generations would be a millenium.
But the differences are not 1\%, but up to 800\% (and realistically the differences are 200\% at least in western countries).And frankly, what do you think is best for women.
Life with "fewer acceptable roles", like in mid-20th-century rural environment in the west ?
Or like today under the students of islam ("taliban" in pashtun) and their counterparts elsewhere ?</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Westerners</title>
	<author>geekoid</author>
	<datestamp>1262692260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So there is a persopn whose job it is to stop Yakuza from using these? tough gig.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So there is a persopn whose job it is to stop Yakuza from using these ?
tough gig .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So there is a persopn whose job it is to stop Yakuza from using these?
tough gig.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30661534</id>
	<title>10'x30' or something, IIRC</title>
	<author>jeffmeden</author>
	<datestamp>1262689620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Guess we'll just have to wait for the rest of the world to turn to total shit before living in a storage unit becomes 'appealing'.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Guess we 'll just have to wait for the rest of the world to turn to total shit before living in a storage unit becomes 'appealing' .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Guess we'll just have to wait for the rest of the world to turn to total shit before living in a storage unit becomes 'appealing'.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30667194</id>
	<title>Re:Smoke</title>
	<author>jez9999</author>
	<datestamp>1262774460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wow... new stop smoking technique!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow... new stop smoking technique !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow... new stop smoking technique!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30663150</id>
	<title>Re:I'm casually calling BS</title>
	<author>tknd</author>
	<datestamp>1262697360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I visited in October. You probably have more experience than I, but while I was there I saw a number of things:

</p><ul>
<li>I met a japanese guy in my hostel that was looking for work. He found jobs but I'm guessing none of them were "full time" jobs. He was young and wasn't really a salaryman so his situation was a little different. But he did stay at the hostel dormitory pretty much the entire time I was in Japan (weeks).</li>
<li>I saw plenty of homeless. By that I  mean people sleeping in boxes on the street.</li>
<li>A train ride on a single line can be about 290yen within the city but if you transfer it starts to go up. Plus you need to commute both directions so that can easily put you around $6 or more for the day. The only benefit I can think of by staying in the center is if you are in a place like shinjuku, you have access to more subway lines so it is easier/cheaper to get around the city.</li>
<li>A lot of locals and Japanese (but not local to Tokyo) didn't know everything about the city. In fact a lot of them get just as lost as foreigners do. So it isn't surprising that they aren't staying in the best places you would think.</li>
<li>A lot of Japanese are not as smart as you would think. In fact a lot of them are pretty average so I wouldn't expect all of them to make the smartest or most practical decisions.</li>
</ul><p>But I mean a lot of it is simply our perceptions. For example if someone asked me about the homeless situation where I live (California), I'd certainly say they exist but I don't know how they are living. From my point of view all I see are an increase in the number of bums begging for money and whatever is in the news.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I visited in October .
You probably have more experience than I , but while I was there I saw a number of things : I met a japanese guy in my hostel that was looking for work .
He found jobs but I 'm guessing none of them were " full time " jobs .
He was young and was n't really a salaryman so his situation was a little different .
But he did stay at the hostel dormitory pretty much the entire time I was in Japan ( weeks ) .
I saw plenty of homeless .
By that I mean people sleeping in boxes on the street .
A train ride on a single line can be about 290yen within the city but if you transfer it starts to go up .
Plus you need to commute both directions so that can easily put you around $ 6 or more for the day .
The only benefit I can think of by staying in the center is if you are in a place like shinjuku , you have access to more subway lines so it is easier/cheaper to get around the city .
A lot of locals and Japanese ( but not local to Tokyo ) did n't know everything about the city .
In fact a lot of them get just as lost as foreigners do .
So it is n't surprising that they are n't staying in the best places you would think .
A lot of Japanese are not as smart as you would think .
In fact a lot of them are pretty average so I would n't expect all of them to make the smartest or most practical decisions .
But I mean a lot of it is simply our perceptions .
For example if someone asked me about the homeless situation where I live ( California ) , I 'd certainly say they exist but I do n't know how they are living .
From my point of view all I see are an increase in the number of bums begging for money and whatever is in the news .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I visited in October.
You probably have more experience than I, but while I was there I saw a number of things:


I met a japanese guy in my hostel that was looking for work.
He found jobs but I'm guessing none of them were "full time" jobs.
He was young and wasn't really a salaryman so his situation was a little different.
But he did stay at the hostel dormitory pretty much the entire time I was in Japan (weeks).
I saw plenty of homeless.
By that I  mean people sleeping in boxes on the street.
A train ride on a single line can be about 290yen within the city but if you transfer it starts to go up.
Plus you need to commute both directions so that can easily put you around $6 or more for the day.
The only benefit I can think of by staying in the center is if you are in a place like shinjuku, you have access to more subway lines so it is easier/cheaper to get around the city.
A lot of locals and Japanese (but not local to Tokyo) didn't know everything about the city.
In fact a lot of them get just as lost as foreigners do.
So it isn't surprising that they aren't staying in the best places you would think.
A lot of Japanese are not as smart as you would think.
In fact a lot of them are pretty average so I wouldn't expect all of them to make the smartest or most practical decisions.
But I mean a lot of it is simply our perceptions.
For example if someone asked me about the homeless situation where I live (California), I'd certainly say they exist but I don't know how they are living.
From my point of view all I see are an increase in the number of bums begging for money and whatever is in the news.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Westerners</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262688720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>There are booking sites for various capsule hotels in English so yes.<br>
However from reading reviews most seem to be separated by sex if you are going as a couple.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There are booking sites for various capsule hotels in English so yes .
However from reading reviews most seem to be separated by sex if you are going as a couple .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are booking sites for various capsule hotels in English so yes.
However from reading reviews most seem to be separated by sex if you are going as a couple.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30667448</id>
	<title>Re:Beats Being Homeless Though</title>
	<author>BBF\_BBF</author>
	<datestamp>1262777100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'd rather live in a capsule than in a cardboard box in an alley somewhere. Safer, warmer, and more secure.</p></div><p>You neglect to factor in the $640 a month it costs more than a cardboard box.  In Japan, living on the street would probably be no more secure or safe, the crime rate there is nowhere close to any North American city... you'd probably get picked up by the police pretty quickly if you were living on the street in Japan.<br> <br>
I'd also rather live in a 1000 room mansion than in my apartment... but unfortunately I cannot afford to.</p></div>
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<tokenext>I 'd rather live in a capsule than in a cardboard box in an alley somewhere .
Safer , warmer , and more secure.You neglect to factor in the $ 640 a month it costs more than a cardboard box .
In Japan , living on the street would probably be no more secure or safe , the crime rate there is nowhere close to any North American city... you 'd probably get picked up by the police pretty quickly if you were living on the street in Japan .
I 'd also rather live in a 1000 room mansion than in my apartment... but unfortunately I can not afford to .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd rather live in a capsule than in a cardboard box in an alley somewhere.
Safer, warmer, and more secure.You neglect to factor in the $640 a month it costs more than a cardboard box.
In Japan, living on the street would probably be no more secure or safe, the crime rate there is nowhere close to any North American city... you'd probably get picked up by the police pretty quickly if you were living on the street in Japan.
I'd also rather live in a 1000 room mansion than in my apartment... but unfortunately I cannot afford to.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30664986</id>
	<title>Japan endures its worst recession since World War</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262708400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Atsushi Nakanishi, 40, is out of work in Japan, where unemployment has hit 5.2 percent."</p><p>i'll admit i laughed when i read that.  5.2\%?  really?  that's considered a pretty ok economy over here (u.s.).  now i don't know who i feel sad for.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Atsushi Nakanishi , 40 , is out of work in Japan , where unemployment has hit 5.2 percent .
" i 'll admit i laughed when i read that .
5.2 \ % ? really ?
that 's considered a pretty ok economy over here ( u.s. ) .
now i do n't know who i feel sad for .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Atsushi Nakanishi, 40, is out of work in Japan, where unemployment has hit 5.2 percent.
"i'll admit i laughed when i read that.
5.2\%?  really?
that's considered a pretty ok economy over here (u.s.).
now i don't know who i feel sad for.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30665390</id>
	<title>Re:Westerners</title>
	<author>Znork</author>
	<datestamp>1262710920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Meh. If men had been the ones getting pregnant, we'd have had actual 'baby making machines' in the late 30's. As it is, it's not that far away.</p><p>And really, the actual baby production isn't the problem. With a reasonable premium I'd wager you could get a whole baby carrying industry going, but are you going to raise them?</p><p>So a whole lot of people do the responsible thing and don't get pets if they don't want to, or have time to, take care of them. Or kids. And that's certainly not 'the women', it applies to both men and women. It's often a joint decision not to get kids, and the man could just as well offer to dedicate his time to the raising, so the whole misogynist 'limited roles' is unfounded.</p><p>Personally I'd say the main issue is a general lack of free time, followed by space and decent circumstances in an urban lifestyle; it's not exactly conducive to wanting kids. You don't just add an extra room to your hotel capsule if you decide to get a child. I think you could take that highly reproductive rural population, stick it in a city center and watch the fertility rate drop off a cliff (roles or no roles, Japan certainly isn't very modern in that aspect).</p><p>Perhaps more radical alternatives like cutting down standard working hours to 20 hours per week (with the option of holding multiple jobs instead) might get you see significant increases in reproductive statistics. That would also solve a lot of the aged-population issue as it'd be much easier to remain at work for longer with shorter standard hours, and which incidentally also solves many social issues for elderly. But however one goes with it, ultimately, a far more balanced and distributed support burden over the lifetime is needed; nailing the theoretically most desirable reproductive segment of the population with the burdens of supporting everyone else certainly isn't going to make them want to make more people to support.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Meh .
If men had been the ones getting pregnant , we 'd have had actual 'baby making machines ' in the late 30 's .
As it is , it 's not that far away.And really , the actual baby production is n't the problem .
With a reasonable premium I 'd wager you could get a whole baby carrying industry going , but are you going to raise them ? So a whole lot of people do the responsible thing and do n't get pets if they do n't want to , or have time to , take care of them .
Or kids .
And that 's certainly not 'the women ' , it applies to both men and women .
It 's often a joint decision not to get kids , and the man could just as well offer to dedicate his time to the raising , so the whole misogynist 'limited roles ' is unfounded.Personally I 'd say the main issue is a general lack of free time , followed by space and decent circumstances in an urban lifestyle ; it 's not exactly conducive to wanting kids .
You do n't just add an extra room to your hotel capsule if you decide to get a child .
I think you could take that highly reproductive rural population , stick it in a city center and watch the fertility rate drop off a cliff ( roles or no roles , Japan certainly is n't very modern in that aspect ) .Perhaps more radical alternatives like cutting down standard working hours to 20 hours per week ( with the option of holding multiple jobs instead ) might get you see significant increases in reproductive statistics .
That would also solve a lot of the aged-population issue as it 'd be much easier to remain at work for longer with shorter standard hours , and which incidentally also solves many social issues for elderly .
But however one goes with it , ultimately , a far more balanced and distributed support burden over the lifetime is needed ; nailing the theoretically most desirable reproductive segment of the population with the burdens of supporting everyone else certainly is n't going to make them want to make more people to support .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Meh.
If men had been the ones getting pregnant, we'd have had actual 'baby making machines' in the late 30's.
As it is, it's not that far away.And really, the actual baby production isn't the problem.
With a reasonable premium I'd wager you could get a whole baby carrying industry going, but are you going to raise them?So a whole lot of people do the responsible thing and don't get pets if they don't want to, or have time to, take care of them.
Or kids.
And that's certainly not 'the women', it applies to both men and women.
It's often a joint decision not to get kids, and the man could just as well offer to dedicate his time to the raising, so the whole misogynist 'limited roles' is unfounded.Personally I'd say the main issue is a general lack of free time, followed by space and decent circumstances in an urban lifestyle; it's not exactly conducive to wanting kids.
You don't just add an extra room to your hotel capsule if you decide to get a child.
I think you could take that highly reproductive rural population, stick it in a city center and watch the fertility rate drop off a cliff (roles or no roles, Japan certainly isn't very modern in that aspect).Perhaps more radical alternatives like cutting down standard working hours to 20 hours per week (with the option of holding multiple jobs instead) might get you see significant increases in reproductive statistics.
That would also solve a lot of the aged-population issue as it'd be much easier to remain at work for longer with shorter standard hours, and which incidentally also solves many social issues for elderly.
But however one goes with it, ultimately, a far more balanced and distributed support burden over the lifetime is needed; nailing the theoretically most desirable reproductive segment of the population with the burdens of supporting everyone else certainly isn't going to make them want to make more people to support.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30691456</id>
	<title>Re:Westerners</title>
	<author>slashdotoy</author>
	<datestamp>1262893860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>  Much of the excesses of Sarariman life was forgiven because, well, he would bring home the salary.</p></div><p>Can we not perpetuate the "r" and "l" swap when using English in a primarily English audience?  I almost googled "Sarariman" before I caught myself.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Much of the excesses of Sarariman life was forgiven because , well , he would bring home the salary.Can we not perpetuate the " r " and " l " swap when using English in a primarily English audience ?
I almost googled " Sarariman " before I caught myself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>  Much of the excesses of Sarariman life was forgiven because, well, he would bring home the salary.Can we not perpetuate the "r" and "l" swap when using English in a primarily English audience?
I almost googled "Sarariman" before I caught myself.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30748746</id>
	<title>Re:There is NO population shortage</title>
	<author>OeLeWaPpErKe</author>
	<datestamp>1263383880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You do realize that Europe's (and America's, a bit later) welfare systems are collapsing, right ?</p><p>I realize it's a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" scenario, but if population does not rise, the elders (that would be you, in case you're confused) can only be left to die.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You do realize that Europe 's ( and America 's , a bit later ) welfare systems are collapsing , right ? I realize it 's a " damned if you do , damned if you do n't " scenario , but if population does not rise , the elders ( that would be you , in case you 're confused ) can only be left to die .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You do realize that Europe's (and America's, a bit later) welfare systems are collapsing, right ?I realize it's a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" scenario, but if population does not rise, the elders (that would be you, in case you're confused) can only be left to die.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30664106</id>
	<title>Re:This is great</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262702580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If it's such a great idea, do it yourself and make a working example.<br>As for the homeless taking advantage of this, how do you propose managing their often spectacularly destructive and self-destructive behaviors? John and Jane Bohemian might get on well with other Bohemians, but toss a few violent drunks, a paint huffer or two, and various criminals looking for a place to crash and you'd have great fodder for reality TV.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If it 's such a great idea , do it yourself and make a working example.As for the homeless taking advantage of this , how do you propose managing their often spectacularly destructive and self-destructive behaviors ?
John and Jane Bohemian might get on well with other Bohemians , but toss a few violent drunks , a paint huffer or two , and various criminals looking for a place to crash and you 'd have great fodder for reality TV .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If it's such a great idea, do it yourself and make a working example.As for the homeless taking advantage of this, how do you propose managing their often spectacularly destructive and self-destructive behaviors?
John and Jane Bohemian might get on well with other Bohemians, but toss a few violent drunks, a paint huffer or two, and various criminals looking for a place to crash and you'd have great fodder for reality TV.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30663426</id>
	<title>Re:Westerners</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262698680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As a western tourist I stayed at a Shinjuku capsule hotel 14 years ago for a couple of nights.<br>It had a great location and reasonable price.<br>Odd video playing on the lobby tv screen though (a guy playing leapfrog with a girl but mostly pixelated out in a tribute to japans love of 8 bit graphics).<br>The room was small but the shared bath was lovely and hot (you have to shower thoroughly before taking a bath in japan).<br>I thought it was great; like a gym/sauna complex (but cleaner) with sleeping space rather than a hotel.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As a western tourist I stayed at a Shinjuku capsule hotel 14 years ago for a couple of nights.It had a great location and reasonable price.Odd video playing on the lobby tv screen though ( a guy playing leapfrog with a girl but mostly pixelated out in a tribute to japans love of 8 bit graphics ) .The room was small but the shared bath was lovely and hot ( you have to shower thoroughly before taking a bath in japan ) .I thought it was great ; like a gym/sauna complex ( but cleaner ) with sleeping space rather than a hotel .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a western tourist I stayed at a Shinjuku capsule hotel 14 years ago for a couple of nights.It had a great location and reasonable price.Odd video playing on the lobby tv screen though (a guy playing leapfrog with a girl but mostly pixelated out in a tribute to japans love of 8 bit graphics).The room was small but the shared bath was lovely and hot (you have to shower thoroughly before taking a bath in japan).I thought it was great; like a gym/sauna complex (but cleaner) with sleeping space rather than a hotel.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30662416</id>
	<title>Re:Westerners</title>
	<author>wiredlogic</author>
	<datestamp>1262693820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you ever run across the documentary called "Japan Land" you'll see the female adventurer treking about the country on her own. It's shown on PBS World from time to time.</p><p>In one of the episodes she manages to get a night in a capsule hotel and films herself getting in and out. She managed to get into a few other places where women aren't completely welcome and got to see some interesting things like standing in the middle of a sea of Yakuza during a temple festival.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you ever run across the documentary called " Japan Land " you 'll see the female adventurer treking about the country on her own .
It 's shown on PBS World from time to time.In one of the episodes she manages to get a night in a capsule hotel and films herself getting in and out .
She managed to get into a few other places where women are n't completely welcome and got to see some interesting things like standing in the middle of a sea of Yakuza during a temple festival .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you ever run across the documentary called "Japan Land" you'll see the female adventurer treking about the country on her own.
It's shown on PBS World from time to time.In one of the episodes she manages to get a night in a capsule hotel and films herself getting in and out.
She managed to get into a few other places where women aren't completely welcome and got to see some interesting things like standing in the middle of a sea of Yakuza during a temple festival.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30666990</id>
	<title>Re:Smoke</title>
	<author>gullevek</author>
	<datestamp>1262771820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well women too. From my female friend circly about 80\% smoke.</p><p>Although there are a lot of changes in the last years (eg JR in Tokyo area removed all smoking areas from the stations) it is still no problem to smoke in restaurants. I haven't been to a single restaurant that is non smoking only.</p><p>There are even some coffee shops appearing which are smoking only.</p><p>If you hate smoking, Japan is the last place you want to go.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well women too .
From my female friend circly about 80 \ % smoke.Although there are a lot of changes in the last years ( eg JR in Tokyo area removed all smoking areas from the stations ) it is still no problem to smoke in restaurants .
I have n't been to a single restaurant that is non smoking only.There are even some coffee shops appearing which are smoking only.If you hate smoking , Japan is the last place you want to go .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well women too.
From my female friend circly about 80\% smoke.Although there are a lot of changes in the last years (eg JR in Tokyo area removed all smoking areas from the stations) it is still no problem to smoke in restaurants.
I haven't been to a single restaurant that is non smoking only.There are even some coffee shops appearing which are smoking only.If you hate smoking, Japan is the last place you want to go.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30661130</id>
	<title>Westerners</title>
	<author>Frosty Piss</author>
	<datestamp>1262688180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I wonder if Westerners are accepted at these places?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder if Westerners are accepted at these places ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder if Westerners are accepted at these places?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30709696</id>
	<title>Re:Smaller than Snowcrash?</title>
	<author>Suki I</author>
	<datestamp>1263031800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I am more reminded of the coffins from Gibson's Neuromancer.</p><p>Now we only need chicks with titan blades under fingernails...</p></div><p>Humm . . . I wonder what message that will send to beloved if I ask for some for Valentines Day?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></div>
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<tokenext>I am more reminded of the coffins from Gibson 's Neuromancer.Now we only need chicks with titan blades under fingernails...Humm .
. .
I wonder what message that will send to beloved if I ask for some for Valentines Day ?
; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am more reminded of the coffins from Gibson's Neuromancer.Now we only need chicks with titan blades under fingernails...Humm .
. .
I wonder what message that will send to beloved if I ask for some for Valentines Day?
;)
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30662528</id>
	<title>Their own damned fault</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262694420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&ldquo;I have looked and looked, but there are no jobs. Now my savings are almost gone,&rdquo;</p><p>Anyone who saves effort by depending on others to be supplied a job -- as though it were a public resource -- is an idiot, and deserves what they get.  I trust they were happy when they wrote a resume, got an interview, got hired, and got paid within three weeks.  Now they get to notice that they were saving effort then, and the expense of money now.</p><p>By all means, take the easy road, and hope it leads somewhere.  Don't be surprised if it winds up leading nowhere.</p><p>Can't find a job?  Can't find a cake?  Bake your own cake.  It's not hard.  Start your own business.  It is hard.</p><p>Good news, those easy roads you took were paved for you by people who started the business from nothing.  You decided not to.  Congrats.  Youwere lauhing then, today, sucks to be you.</p><p>I built two businesses from scratch.  One ten years ago, that thrives now, and doubly so in this economy.  The second one I started two years ago, and it has grown at half-price during this economy.  It's a wonderful thing.</p><p>Finding problems and solving them yourself makes you valuable.  Being available to help someone else makes them more valuable -- and it makes you replaceable, and removable.  Big surprise.</p><p>Incidentally, the first man in this article studied economics.  You'd have thought he'd have see this coming.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>   I have looked and looked , but there are no jobs .
Now my savings are almost gone ,    Anyone who saves effort by depending on others to be supplied a job -- as though it were a public resource -- is an idiot , and deserves what they get .
I trust they were happy when they wrote a resume , got an interview , got hired , and got paid within three weeks .
Now they get to notice that they were saving effort then , and the expense of money now.By all means , take the easy road , and hope it leads somewhere .
Do n't be surprised if it winds up leading nowhere.Ca n't find a job ?
Ca n't find a cake ?
Bake your own cake .
It 's not hard .
Start your own business .
It is hard.Good news , those easy roads you took were paved for you by people who started the business from nothing .
You decided not to .
Congrats. Youwere lauhing then , today , sucks to be you.I built two businesses from scratch .
One ten years ago , that thrives now , and doubly so in this economy .
The second one I started two years ago , and it has grown at half-price during this economy .
It 's a wonderful thing.Finding problems and solving them yourself makes you valuable .
Being available to help someone else makes them more valuable -- and it makes you replaceable , and removable .
Big surprise.Incidentally , the first man in this article studied economics .
You 'd have thought he 'd have see this coming .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>“I have looked and looked, but there are no jobs.
Now my savings are almost gone,”Anyone who saves effort by depending on others to be supplied a job -- as though it were a public resource -- is an idiot, and deserves what they get.
I trust they were happy when they wrote a resume, got an interview, got hired, and got paid within three weeks.
Now they get to notice that they were saving effort then, and the expense of money now.By all means, take the easy road, and hope it leads somewhere.
Don't be surprised if it winds up leading nowhere.Can't find a job?
Can't find a cake?
Bake your own cake.
It's not hard.
Start your own business.
It is hard.Good news, those easy roads you took were paved for you by people who started the business from nothing.
You decided not to.
Congrats.  Youwere lauhing then, today, sucks to be you.I built two businesses from scratch.
One ten years ago, that thrives now, and doubly so in this economy.
The second one I started two years ago, and it has grown at half-price during this economy.
It's a wonderful thing.Finding problems and solving them yourself makes you valuable.
Being available to help someone else makes them more valuable -- and it makes you replaceable, and removable.
Big surprise.Incidentally, the first man in this article studied economics.
You'd have thought he'd have see this coming.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30664676</id>
	<title>Japan is changing</title>
	<author>DesScorp</author>
	<datestamp>1262706480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"<b>The fact that Japan's homelessness is large enough to now be visible is pretty shocking</b>"</p><p>A lot of things about Japan would surprise people. But this is only going to get worse. I was reading this weekend about just how much trouble Japan is in. IIRC from the newspaper article, their national debt is 212\% of the GDP, twice what the US's is. The savings rate for Japanese citizens used to average 10\%. As the old have died off, and the less-numerous young entered adulthood, that rate has dropped precipitously to 3\%. And there's much less home and real estate ownership on average in Japan than in the states. There may well be an impending debt crisis... some investors are actually betting against Japanese government bonds. So while the US is hurting, Japan is too. They've just done a better job of hiding it, but that's changing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" The fact that Japan 's homelessness is large enough to now be visible is pretty shocking " A lot of things about Japan would surprise people .
But this is only going to get worse .
I was reading this weekend about just how much trouble Japan is in .
IIRC from the newspaper article , their national debt is 212 \ % of the GDP , twice what the US 's is .
The savings rate for Japanese citizens used to average 10 \ % .
As the old have died off , and the less-numerous young entered adulthood , that rate has dropped precipitously to 3 \ % .
And there 's much less home and real estate ownership on average in Japan than in the states .
There may well be an impending debt crisis... some investors are actually betting against Japanese government bonds .
So while the US is hurting , Japan is too .
They 've just done a better job of hiding it , but that 's changing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"The fact that Japan's homelessness is large enough to now be visible is pretty shocking"A lot of things about Japan would surprise people.
But this is only going to get worse.
I was reading this weekend about just how much trouble Japan is in.
IIRC from the newspaper article, their national debt is 212\% of the GDP, twice what the US's is.
The savings rate for Japanese citizens used to average 10\%.
As the old have died off, and the less-numerous young entered adulthood, that rate has dropped precipitously to 3\%.
And there's much less home and real estate ownership on average in Japan than in the states.
There may well be an impending debt crisis... some investors are actually betting against Japanese government bonds.
So while the US is hurting, Japan is too.
They've just done a better job of hiding it, but that's changing.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30661804</id>
	<title>Hey baby, wanna go to my place?</title>
	<author>Locke2005</author>
	<datestamp>1262691000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>What are the chances of any of these guys bringing a real live girl back to their "capsule"?</htmltext>
<tokenext>What are the chances of any of these guys bringing a real live girl back to their " capsule " ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What are the chances of any of these guys bringing a real live girl back to their "capsule"?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30661478</id>
	<title>Re:Very affordable</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262689440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Even in Tokyo, 600USD per month gets you an OK room in a guest house, or a tiny apartment in the suburbs. I suspect most of the people "living" in these places actually sleep on the street most of the time, and just rent a capsule occasionally when they've scraped together some cash.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Even in Tokyo , 600USD per month gets you an OK room in a guest house , or a tiny apartment in the suburbs .
I suspect most of the people " living " in these places actually sleep on the street most of the time , and just rent a capsule occasionally when they 've scraped together some cash .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even in Tokyo, 600USD per month gets you an OK room in a guest house, or a tiny apartment in the suburbs.
I suspect most of the people "living" in these places actually sleep on the street most of the time, and just rent a capsule occasionally when they've scraped together some cash.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30662862</id>
	<title>Re:This is great</title>
	<author>cmdr\_tofu</author>
	<datestamp>1262696040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Check <a href="http://www.couchsurfing.com./" title="www.couchsurfing.com">http://www.couchsurfing.com./</a> [www.couchsurfing.com]  A lot of people travel on the uber cheap this way.  It's pretty nice<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Check http : //www.couchsurfing.com./ [ www.couchsurfing.com ] A lot of people travel on the uber cheap this way .
It 's pretty nice : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Check http://www.couchsurfing.com./ [www.couchsurfing.com]  A lot of people travel on the uber cheap this way.
It's pretty nice :)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30662658</id>
	<title>Tag Line</title>
	<author>DaMattster</author>
	<datestamp>1262695200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The neuromancer tagline is pretty apropros.  It is a shame that stuff like this has to spring up.  I feel bad for the economic victims.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The neuromancer tagline is pretty apropros .
It is a shame that stuff like this has to spring up .
I feel bad for the economic victims .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The neuromancer tagline is pretty apropros.
It is a shame that stuff like this has to spring up.
I feel bad for the economic victims.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30663988</id>
	<title>Re:I'm casually calling BS</title>
	<author>Darinbob</author>
	<datestamp>1262701620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I bumped into a tent city in Osaka in '99.  Completely hidden out of the way so that no one else is bothered by them.  Not sure if it was entirely voluntary, or if pushed out of more visible areas by police, or from too much disapproval from passers by.  They appeared to all be men, though I saw one younger boy with a father, living in camping tents and reasonably well groomed and bathed as if they really were camping.  No one came up to ask for money, no smelly guy drinking from a paper bag, no incomprehensible muttering.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I bumped into a tent city in Osaka in '99 .
Completely hidden out of the way so that no one else is bothered by them .
Not sure if it was entirely voluntary , or if pushed out of more visible areas by police , or from too much disapproval from passers by .
They appeared to all be men , though I saw one younger boy with a father , living in camping tents and reasonably well groomed and bathed as if they really were camping .
No one came up to ask for money , no smelly guy drinking from a paper bag , no incomprehensible muttering .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bumped into a tent city in Osaka in '99.
Completely hidden out of the way so that no one else is bothered by them.
Not sure if it was entirely voluntary, or if pushed out of more visible areas by police, or from too much disapproval from passers by.
They appeared to all be men, though I saw one younger boy with a father, living in camping tents and reasonably well groomed and bathed as if they really were camping.
No one came up to ask for money, no smelly guy drinking from a paper bag, no incomprehensible muttering.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30662634</id>
	<title>Re:Sounds like the Navy.</title>
	<author>StikyPad</author>
	<datestamp>1262695020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The "bunks" (racks) on a ship are affectionately known as coffins.  They're about 72"x30"x18" (unless you take the top rack, which typically has no "roof") and they've got little airplane-style vents near your head to keep you from suffocating.</p><p>On the older 688 LA Class attack subs, most of the TMs (torpedomen) don't even get that luxury -- they sleep on mattresses in the torpedo storage area with no separation between them.  They put down some plywood over the steel torpedo cradles, and then put their mattresses on the plywood.  And about 18 inches above that is another rack of torpedoes.  Of course, there are often actual torpedoes in said storage area, and when there are, the crew sleeps on the floor in the "hallways" on either side.</p><p>That's just for TMs though.  Most of the rest of the crew gets to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot\_racking" title="wikipedia.org">hot rack</a> [wikipedia.org].</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The " bunks " ( racks ) on a ship are affectionately known as coffins .
They 're about 72 " x30 " x18 " ( unless you take the top rack , which typically has no " roof " ) and they 've got little airplane-style vents near your head to keep you from suffocating.On the older 688 LA Class attack subs , most of the TMs ( torpedomen ) do n't even get that luxury -- they sleep on mattresses in the torpedo storage area with no separation between them .
They put down some plywood over the steel torpedo cradles , and then put their mattresses on the plywood .
And about 18 inches above that is another rack of torpedoes .
Of course , there are often actual torpedoes in said storage area , and when there are , the crew sleeps on the floor in the " hallways " on either side.That 's just for TMs though .
Most of the rest of the crew gets to hot rack [ wikipedia.org ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The "bunks" (racks) on a ship are affectionately known as coffins.
They're about 72"x30"x18" (unless you take the top rack, which typically has no "roof") and they've got little airplane-style vents near your head to keep you from suffocating.On the older 688 LA Class attack subs, most of the TMs (torpedomen) don't even get that luxury -- they sleep on mattresses in the torpedo storage area with no separation between them.
They put down some plywood over the steel torpedo cradles, and then put their mattresses on the plywood.
And about 18 inches above that is another rack of torpedoes.
Of course, there are often actual torpedoes in said storage area, and when there are, the crew sleeps on the floor in the "hallways" on either side.That's just for TMs though.
Most of the rest of the crew gets to hot rack [wikipedia.org].</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30667112</id>
	<title>Yawn</title>
	<author>gmhowell</author>
	<datestamp>1262773140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not that much smaller than the sleeper berth in a truck. Or as my brother referred to it when he saw one "a prison cell on wheels".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not that much smaller than the sleeper berth in a truck .
Or as my brother referred to it when he saw one " a prison cell on wheels " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not that much smaller than the sleeper berth in a truck.
Or as my brother referred to it when he saw one "a prison cell on wheels".</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30661444</id>
	<title>Re:Smaller than Snowcrash?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262689320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I am more reminded of the coffins from Gibson's Neuromancer.</p><p>Now we only need chicks with titan blades under fingernails...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am more reminded of the coffins from Gibson 's Neuromancer.Now we only need chicks with titan blades under fingernails.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am more reminded of the coffins from Gibson's Neuromancer.Now we only need chicks with titan blades under fingernails...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30662414</id>
	<title>I'm casually calling BS</title>
	<author>Zadaz</author>
	<datestamp>1262693820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've been thinking about this since I first saw it reported.  I haven't been to Japan in two years, but I did live in central Tokyo for several years and I think I got a feel for the place.  I know exactly where this hotel is and walked by it quite often.</p><p>A Shinjuku capsule hotels are not the cheapest in the city by any means.  A $3 train ride can save you 50\%.  The only reason most people don't do that is because they missed the last train--not a problem for the unemployed.</p><p>And while yes, it is cheaper than a Tokyo apartment, many (most?) people who -work- in Tokyo can't afford to -live- there.  They live out in the 'burbs, up in Saitama or down in Kawasaki or wherever, where you can get your own place for a lot less.  Sure, it's an hour train ride to work, but in Tokyo that's pretty standard.  And you'd get your own place rather than a luxury coffin.</p><p>I've talked to my friends who still work in central Tokyo trying to get conformation of this 'trend' but all of them have reported back that this is bogus.  But none of them are homeless businessmen, so my sampling is biased.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been thinking about this since I first saw it reported .
I have n't been to Japan in two years , but I did live in central Tokyo for several years and I think I got a feel for the place .
I know exactly where this hotel is and walked by it quite often.A Shinjuku capsule hotels are not the cheapest in the city by any means .
A $ 3 train ride can save you 50 \ % .
The only reason most people do n't do that is because they missed the last train--not a problem for the unemployed.And while yes , it is cheaper than a Tokyo apartment , many ( most ?
) people who -work- in Tokyo ca n't afford to -live- there .
They live out in the 'burbs , up in Saitama or down in Kawasaki or wherever , where you can get your own place for a lot less .
Sure , it 's an hour train ride to work , but in Tokyo that 's pretty standard .
And you 'd get your own place rather than a luxury coffin.I 've talked to my friends who still work in central Tokyo trying to get conformation of this 'trend ' but all of them have reported back that this is bogus .
But none of them are homeless businessmen , so my sampling is biased .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been thinking about this since I first saw it reported.
I haven't been to Japan in two years, but I did live in central Tokyo for several years and I think I got a feel for the place.
I know exactly where this hotel is and walked by it quite often.A Shinjuku capsule hotels are not the cheapest in the city by any means.
A $3 train ride can save you 50\%.
The only reason most people don't do that is because they missed the last train--not a problem for the unemployed.And while yes, it is cheaper than a Tokyo apartment, many (most?
) people who -work- in Tokyo can't afford to -live- there.
They live out in the 'burbs, up in Saitama or down in Kawasaki or wherever, where you can get your own place for a lot less.
Sure, it's an hour train ride to work, but in Tokyo that's pretty standard.
And you'd get your own place rather than a luxury coffin.I've talked to my friends who still work in central Tokyo trying to get conformation of this 'trend' but all of them have reported back that this is bogus.
But none of them are homeless businessmen, so my sampling is biased.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30661152</id>
	<title>nothing beats a good all night dutch-oven</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262688240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>especially when you get to pay for the privilege</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>especially when you get to pay for the privilege</tokentext>
<sentencetext>especially when you get to pay for the privilege</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30662194</id>
	<title>Re:Westerners</title>
	<author>Chris Burke</author>
	<datestamp>1262692740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>And, as we all know, Japanese women are expected to be  baby making machines , so *not* having children isn't really seen as an option. </i></p><p>Hey, at least he acknowledged that calling women "machines" <i>may</i> not be appropriate!</p><p>Yeah...</p><p><i>even in Canada small-town women get exposed to fewer options</i></p><p>Oh sure, blame Canada!</p><p>They're not even a real country anyway.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And , as we all know , Japanese women are expected to be baby making machines , so * not * having children is n't really seen as an option .
Hey , at least he acknowledged that calling women " machines " may not be appropriate ! Yeah...even in Canada small-town women get exposed to fewer optionsOh sure , blame Canada ! They 're not even a real country anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And, as we all know, Japanese women are expected to be  baby making machines , so *not* having children isn't really seen as an option.
Hey, at least he acknowledged that calling women "machines" may not be appropriate!Yeah...even in Canada small-town women get exposed to fewer optionsOh sure, blame Canada!They're not even a real country anyway.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30663336</id>
	<title>Re:Westerners</title>
	<author>Yuuki Dasu</author>
	<datestamp>1262698200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As a western male living in Japan, I can attest that foreigners are (generally) accepted at capsule hotels.</p><p>The tattoo issue is one worth knowing about for visitors.  I've never had trouble at capsule hotels, but at public baths and spas (sento and onsen) I've known most places to bar entry if you have visible ink.  I find that most of them don't kick you out if you're already inside, though they might want you to be circumspect.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As a western male living in Japan , I can attest that foreigners are ( generally ) accepted at capsule hotels.The tattoo issue is one worth knowing about for visitors .
I 've never had trouble at capsule hotels , but at public baths and spas ( sento and onsen ) I 've known most places to bar entry if you have visible ink .
I find that most of them do n't kick you out if you 're already inside , though they might want you to be circumspect .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a western male living in Japan, I can attest that foreigners are (generally) accepted at capsule hotels.The tattoo issue is one worth knowing about for visitors.
I've never had trouble at capsule hotels, but at public baths and spas (sento and onsen) I've known most places to bar entry if you have visible ink.
I find that most of them don't kick you out if you're already inside, though they might want you to be circumspect.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30661210</id>
	<title>Very affordable</title>
	<author>Renraku</author>
	<datestamp>1262688480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oh, yes, it's very affordable.  $600+ a month can easily buy you a decent apartment pretty much anywhere else, but here you get a room that's smaller than a prison cell that you can just barely sleep in.</p><p>I could see people sleeping in one of these once in a while if they have to pull shift work or if they miss a train, but every day?  Even living with your parents would be less degrading than living in one of these as an apartment.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh , yes , it 's very affordable .
$ 600 + a month can easily buy you a decent apartment pretty much anywhere else , but here you get a room that 's smaller than a prison cell that you can just barely sleep in.I could see people sleeping in one of these once in a while if they have to pull shift work or if they miss a train , but every day ?
Even living with your parents would be less degrading than living in one of these as an apartment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh, yes, it's very affordable.
$600+ a month can easily buy you a decent apartment pretty much anywhere else, but here you get a room that's smaller than a prison cell that you can just barely sleep in.I could see people sleeping in one of these once in a while if they have to pull shift work or if they miss a train, but every day?
Even living with your parents would be less degrading than living in one of these as an apartment.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30667856</id>
	<title>Re:Westerners</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262781780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You're thinking of onsen/sento. Why/how would a hotel even know you have tattoos unless you put them on your face or something? Not to mention there very few legal reasons for hotels to turn down customers, and tattoos aren't one of them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're thinking of onsen/sento .
Why/how would a hotel even know you have tattoos unless you put them on your face or something ?
Not to mention there very few legal reasons for hotels to turn down customers , and tattoos are n't one of them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're thinking of onsen/sento.
Why/how would a hotel even know you have tattoos unless you put them on your face or something?
Not to mention there very few legal reasons for hotels to turn down customers, and tattoos aren't one of them.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30661224</id>
	<title>Pretty nice for an overnight stay</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262688480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I stayed in a couple of capsule hotels during my trip to Japan in 2006. The good ones, such as one I can't remember the name of in Hakata, were great spa-like experiences which were still rather cheap. The worst one was actually in Shinjuku in Tokyo, where the capsules were badly ventilated and the in-hotel restaurant gave me food poisoning (cow-stomach ramen did not go down well in my own stomach, apparently).</htmltext>
<tokenext>I stayed in a couple of capsule hotels during my trip to Japan in 2006 .
The good ones , such as one I ca n't remember the name of in Hakata , were great spa-like experiences which were still rather cheap .
The worst one was actually in Shinjuku in Tokyo , where the capsules were badly ventilated and the in-hotel restaurant gave me food poisoning ( cow-stomach ramen did not go down well in my own stomach , apparently ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I stayed in a couple of capsule hotels during my trip to Japan in 2006.
The good ones, such as one I can't remember the name of in Hakata, were great spa-like experiences which were still rather cheap.
The worst one was actually in Shinjuku in Tokyo, where the capsules were badly ventilated and the in-hotel restaurant gave me food poisoning (cow-stomach ramen did not go down well in my own stomach, apparently).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30662016</id>
	<title>Re:Sounds like the Navy.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262691900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah but were you paying $640 a month for it?</p><p>That's almost as much as those tiny NYC apartments and those have a lot more room (including your own bathroom).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah but were you paying $ 640 a month for it ? That 's almost as much as those tiny NYC apartments and those have a lot more room ( including your own bathroom ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah but were you paying $640 a month for it?That's almost as much as those tiny NYC apartments and those have a lot more room (including your own bathroom).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30664874</id>
	<title>Even better</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262707560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nowadays, if you're willing to stay even just a little bit outside of the Yamanote loop line, and if you know where to look (hint: online, especially if you can read a bit of Japanese, in which case Jalan.net is the place to go), you can get small hotel rooms for the same price as capsule hotels in Tokyo.</p><p>I should know: I'm sitting in such a room right now. The place where I'm staying has weekly rates which rival the cheapest apartment room rentals -- which usually have the inconvenience of requiring upfront monthly payments, deposits, and often "key money" and "gift money" (unless dealing with special agencies like Sakura House who specialize in housing foreigners, the first month of rent can easily cost you four times the normal rent, and we haven't talked about the utilities yet)</p><p>Since this is<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. : did I mention that my room has top-notch Internet connectivity? I was downloading stuff from my Montreal-based "home" server at over 50 Mb/s yesterday night! You get an Ethernet jack in the room, and the place is blanketed with free wifi. (Of course you still end up behind a NAT, but I don't think I've ever seen a hotel handing out public IPs...)</p><p>The hotel is split in smoking and non-smoking floors, and there's even a women-only floor. There's a coin laundry on the first floor, nice bathing and toilet facilities (cleaner than most 6000-8000 yen/night downtown Shinjuku business hotels I've stayed in), microwave ovens and hot water on each floor... With convenience stores and 100yen shops close by, it makes it really easy to live on a shoestring budget even in this supposedly extremely expensive city.</p><p>And this place is far from unique: hell, there's another one just like it right across the street.</p><p>Did I mention the best part yet? Unlike most budget hotels... there are virtually no noisy foreigners here!</p><p>Which is why I won't tell you where it is<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-&gt;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nowadays , if you 're willing to stay even just a little bit outside of the Yamanote loop line , and if you know where to look ( hint : online , especially if you can read a bit of Japanese , in which case Jalan.net is the place to go ) , you can get small hotel rooms for the same price as capsule hotels in Tokyo.I should know : I 'm sitting in such a room right now .
The place where I 'm staying has weekly rates which rival the cheapest apartment room rentals -- which usually have the inconvenience of requiring upfront monthly payments , deposits , and often " key money " and " gift money " ( unless dealing with special agencies like Sakura House who specialize in housing foreigners , the first month of rent can easily cost you four times the normal rent , and we have n't talked about the utilities yet ) Since this is / .
: did I mention that my room has top-notch Internet connectivity ?
I was downloading stuff from my Montreal-based " home " server at over 50 Mb/s yesterday night !
You get an Ethernet jack in the room , and the place is blanketed with free wifi .
( Of course you still end up behind a NAT , but I do n't think I 've ever seen a hotel handing out public IPs... ) The hotel is split in smoking and non-smoking floors , and there 's even a women-only floor .
There 's a coin laundry on the first floor , nice bathing and toilet facilities ( cleaner than most 6000-8000 yen/night downtown Shinjuku business hotels I 've stayed in ) , microwave ovens and hot water on each floor... With convenience stores and 100yen shops close by , it makes it really easy to live on a shoestring budget even in this supposedly extremely expensive city.And this place is far from unique : hell , there 's another one just like it right across the street.Did I mention the best part yet ?
Unlike most budget hotels... there are virtually no noisy foreigners here ! Which is why I wo n't tell you where it is ; - &gt;</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nowadays, if you're willing to stay even just a little bit outside of the Yamanote loop line, and if you know where to look (hint: online, especially if you can read a bit of Japanese, in which case Jalan.net is the place to go), you can get small hotel rooms for the same price as capsule hotels in Tokyo.I should know: I'm sitting in such a room right now.
The place where I'm staying has weekly rates which rival the cheapest apartment room rentals -- which usually have the inconvenience of requiring upfront monthly payments, deposits, and often "key money" and "gift money" (unless dealing with special agencies like Sakura House who specialize in housing foreigners, the first month of rent can easily cost you four times the normal rent, and we haven't talked about the utilities yet)Since this is /.
: did I mention that my room has top-notch Internet connectivity?
I was downloading stuff from my Montreal-based "home" server at over 50 Mb/s yesterday night!
You get an Ethernet jack in the room, and the place is blanketed with free wifi.
(Of course you still end up behind a NAT, but I don't think I've ever seen a hotel handing out public IPs...)The hotel is split in smoking and non-smoking floors, and there's even a women-only floor.
There's a coin laundry on the first floor, nice bathing and toilet facilities (cleaner than most 6000-8000 yen/night downtown Shinjuku business hotels I've stayed in), microwave ovens and hot water on each floor... With convenience stores and 100yen shops close by, it makes it really easy to live on a shoestring budget even in this supposedly extremely expensive city.And this place is far from unique: hell, there's another one just like it right across the street.Did I mention the best part yet?
Unlike most budget hotels... there are virtually no noisy foreigners here!Which is why I won't tell you where it is ;-&gt;</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30674754</id>
	<title>Re:nothing beats a good all night dutch-oven</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262771820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>LOL!</p><p>Think of the crap they're eating while jobless. Ramen Noodle &amp; Spam gas, EWWWW!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>LOL ! Think of the crap they 're eating while jobless .
Ramen Noodle &amp; Spam gas , EWWWW !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>LOL!Think of the crap they're eating while jobless.
Ramen Noodle &amp; Spam gas, EWWWW!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30662150</id>
	<title>Re:Sounds like the Navy.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262692560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I did 6 months of that multiple times.  Its not too bad.</p></div><p><div class="quote"><p>I did 6 months of that multiple times.  Its not too bad.</p></div><p>Times must be hard if they are making you sleep in the Torpedo Tubes.</p></div>
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<tokenext>I did 6 months of that multiple times .
Its not too bad.I did 6 months of that multiple times .
Its not too bad.Times must be hard if they are making you sleep in the Torpedo Tubes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I did 6 months of that multiple times.
Its not too bad.I did 6 months of that multiple times.
Its not too bad.Times must be hard if they are making you sleep in the Torpedo Tubes.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30664982</id>
	<title>Re:Westerners</title>
	<author>Araes</author>
	<datestamp>1262708400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Especially since Japanese society still largely encourages women to abandon their careers once they have children. And, as we all know, Japanese women are expected to be <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6306685.stm" title="bbc.co.uk" rel="nofollow"> baby making machines </a> [bbc.co.uk], so *not* having children isn't really seen as an option.</p></div><p>While it is true that Japanese society does have a very patriarchal outlook, and expects women to produce children, it should also be noted that Japan has one of the lowest birth / death ratios in the entire world, even though it has one of the worlds longest lifespans.

<a href="https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2002rank.html?countryName=Japan&amp;countryCode=ja&amp;regionCode=eas&amp;rank=218#ja" title="cia.gov" rel="nofollow">https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2002rank.html?countryName=Japan&amp;countryCode=ja&amp;regionCode=eas&amp;rank=218#ja</a> [cia.gov]

The societal pressure to have children is partially a response to the overwhelming trend of developed nation citizens to have less than the replacement rate, and the fear of an aging, declining population.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Especially since Japanese society still largely encourages women to abandon their careers once they have children .
And , as we all know , Japanese women are expected to be baby making machines [ bbc.co.uk ] , so * not * having children is n't really seen as an option.While it is true that Japanese society does have a very patriarchal outlook , and expects women to produce children , it should also be noted that Japan has one of the lowest birth / death ratios in the entire world , even though it has one of the worlds longest lifespans .
https : //www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2002rank.html ? countryName = Japan&amp;countryCode = ja&amp;regionCode = eas&amp;rank = 218 # ja [ cia.gov ] The societal pressure to have children is partially a response to the overwhelming trend of developed nation citizens to have less than the replacement rate , and the fear of an aging , declining population .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Especially since Japanese society still largely encourages women to abandon their careers once they have children.
And, as we all know, Japanese women are expected to be  baby making machines  [bbc.co.uk], so *not* having children isn't really seen as an option.While it is true that Japanese society does have a very patriarchal outlook, and expects women to produce children, it should also be noted that Japan has one of the lowest birth / death ratios in the entire world, even though it has one of the worlds longest lifespans.
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2002rank.html?countryName=Japan&amp;countryCode=ja&amp;regionCode=eas&amp;rank=218#ja [cia.gov]

The societal pressure to have children is partially a response to the overwhelming trend of developed nation citizens to have less than the replacement rate, and the fear of an aging, declining population.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30670060</id>
	<title>Heathrow Capsule</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262795700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ive stayed in one here, and the reception girls are way too friendly and theres free champagne, snacks, chitchat, the occassional cleavage for the claustrophobia to matter. But they seem to have the capsules bugged with mics - I once dropped a glass and shattered it. The front desk promptly called to check if everything was ok. Since the doors are thickly padded and the seams are sealed, hey couldnt have heard the sound unless theyd a mic inside. Freaked me out. But for EU30, it was a decent deal.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ive stayed in one here , and the reception girls are way too friendly and theres free champagne , snacks , chitchat , the occassional cleavage for the claustrophobia to matter .
But they seem to have the capsules bugged with mics - I once dropped a glass and shattered it .
The front desk promptly called to check if everything was ok. Since the doors are thickly padded and the seams are sealed , hey couldnt have heard the sound unless theyd a mic inside .
Freaked me out .
But for EU30 , it was a decent deal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ive stayed in one here, and the reception girls are way too friendly and theres free champagne, snacks, chitchat, the occassional cleavage for the claustrophobia to matter.
But they seem to have the capsules bugged with mics - I once dropped a glass and shattered it.
The front desk promptly called to check if everything was ok. Since the doors are thickly padded and the seams are sealed, hey couldnt have heard the sound unless theyd a mic inside.
Freaked me out.
But for EU30, it was a decent deal.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Beats Being Homeless Though</title>
	<author>Dr\_Ken</author>
	<datestamp>1262695140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'd rather live in a capsule than in a cardboard box in an alley somewhere. Safer, warmer, and more secure.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd rather live in a capsule than in a cardboard box in an alley somewhere .
Safer , warmer , and more secure .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd rather live in a capsule than in a cardboard box in an alley somewhere.
Safer, warmer, and more secure.</sentencetext>
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	<title>I'd rather have a room...</title>
	<author>calmofthestorm</author>
	<datestamp>1262688000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>but if it came time to give up luxuries, it would be one of the first to go.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>but if it came time to give up luxuries , it would be one of the first to go .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>but if it came time to give up luxuries, it would be one of the first to go.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30663802</id>
	<title>Re:This is great</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262700420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is really just a "me too" post. Not the high part, at least not until the weekend (it's been a few months), but the coffins? I've been thinking about that for more than a decade since reading Neuromancer.</p><p>Private owners would make a *killing* in downtown areas. With prices as high as they are for a one night stay, I'm afraid to go out too late in Chicago, and it's a pain getting back north. Parking costs are insane... why not invite people to come relax in a capsule hotel?</p><p>I'd do it, and if they had slightly larger capsules I'd be happy to bring a pretty lady friend with too<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>If I could see other cities this way, I guarantee I would be more likely to travel.</p><p>I'd travel light, enjoy myself, and not worry at all about two suitcases full of crap.</p><p>It would also be great for people like rock climbers (myself). Go to a city, stow your gear and snooze, then get up the next day and head out. No frills, no BS, just a comfy little bed to crash on.</p><p>Who needs a big room for one night, anyway? Not me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is really just a " me too " post .
Not the high part , at least not until the weekend ( it 's been a few months ) , but the coffins ?
I 've been thinking about that for more than a decade since reading Neuromancer.Private owners would make a * killing * in downtown areas .
With prices as high as they are for a one night stay , I 'm afraid to go out too late in Chicago , and it 's a pain getting back north .
Parking costs are insane... why not invite people to come relax in a capsule hotel ? I 'd do it , and if they had slightly larger capsules I 'd be happy to bring a pretty lady friend with too : ) If I could see other cities this way , I guarantee I would be more likely to travel.I 'd travel light , enjoy myself , and not worry at all about two suitcases full of crap.It would also be great for people like rock climbers ( myself ) .
Go to a city , stow your gear and snooze , then get up the next day and head out .
No frills , no BS , just a comfy little bed to crash on.Who needs a big room for one night , anyway ?
Not me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is really just a "me too" post.
Not the high part, at least not until the weekend (it's been a few months), but the coffins?
I've been thinking about that for more than a decade since reading Neuromancer.Private owners would make a *killing* in downtown areas.
With prices as high as they are for a one night stay, I'm afraid to go out too late in Chicago, and it's a pain getting back north.
Parking costs are insane... why not invite people to come relax in a capsule hotel?I'd do it, and if they had slightly larger capsules I'd be happy to bring a pretty lady friend with too :)If I could see other cities this way, I guarantee I would be more likely to travel.I'd travel light, enjoy myself, and not worry at all about two suitcases full of crap.It would also be great for people like rock climbers (myself).
Go to a city, stow your gear and snooze, then get up the next day and head out.
No frills, no BS, just a comfy little bed to crash on.Who needs a big room for one night, anyway?
Not me.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30661278</id>
	<title>Smaller than Snowcrash?</title>
	<author>Suki I</author>
	<datestamp>1262688780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hiro Protagonist's place sounded awful, but much better than this in <i>Snowcrash</i>.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hiro Protagonist 's place sounded awful , but much better than this in Snowcrash .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hiro Protagonist's place sounded awful, but much better than this in Snowcrash.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30661876</id>
	<title>Re:Westerners</title>
	<author>Dan541</author>
	<datestamp>1262691360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think allot of Westerners wouldn't fit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think allot of Westerners would n't fit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think allot of Westerners wouldn't fit.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Very affordable</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262689980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Even living with your parents would be less degrading than living in one of these as an apartment.</p></div><p>Gives me a good idea on how to handle a boomerang child:</p><p>You are welcome to stay in one of the basement lockers until you get a job and a place of your own.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Even living with your parents would be less degrading than living in one of these as an apartment.Gives me a good idea on how to handle a boomerang child : You are welcome to stay in one of the basement lockers until you get a job and a place of your own .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even living with your parents would be less degrading than living in one of these as an apartment.Gives me a good idea on how to handle a boomerang child:You are welcome to stay in one of the basement lockers until you get a job and a place of your own.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30662780</id>
	<title>Re:Sounds like the Navy.</title>
	<author>CityZen</author>
	<datestamp>1262695680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seems like $700-$800/month is more likely:</p><p><a href="http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/small\_price\_to\_pay\_yk3QVpgdWYWTBnEhJ0QPXN" title="nypost.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/small\_price\_to\_pay\_yk3QVpgdWYWTBnEhJ0QPXN</a> [nypost.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seems like $ 700- $ 800/month is more likely : http : //www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/small \ _price \ _to \ _pay \ _yk3QVpgdWYWTBnEhJ0QPXN [ nypost.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seems like $700-$800/month is more likely:http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/small\_price\_to\_pay\_yk3QVpgdWYWTBnEhJ0QPXN [nypost.com]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30661320</id>
	<title>Re:Westerners</title>
	<author>harp2812</author>
	<datestamp>1262688900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yup - I stayed a couple nights in a capsule hotel back in March, and I'm a pretty standard Seattle-ite... My hotel was also somewhere around Shinjuku IIRC, however<br>my cubby hole didn't look quite that nice.  Only $25 a night in downtown Tokyo though, so ya can't knock that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yup - I stayed a couple nights in a capsule hotel back in March , and I 'm a pretty standard Seattle-ite... My hotel was also somewhere around Shinjuku IIRC , howevermy cubby hole did n't look quite that nice .
Only $ 25 a night in downtown Tokyo though , so ya ca n't knock that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yup - I stayed a couple nights in a capsule hotel back in March, and I'm a pretty standard Seattle-ite... My hotel was also somewhere around Shinjuku IIRC, howevermy cubby hole didn't look quite that nice.
Only $25 a night in downtown Tokyo though, so ya can't knock that.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Sounds like the Navy.</title>
	<author>Hognoxious</author>
	<datestamp>1262711820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>The "bunks" (racks) on a ship are affectionately known as coffins. They're about 72"x30"x18"</p></div></blockquote><p>I'm tiny by American standards but I'd need to grease to get in  and a sink plunger to get me out again.</p></div>
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<tokenext>The " bunks " ( racks ) on a ship are affectionately known as coffins .
They 're about 72 " x30 " x18 " I 'm tiny by American standards but I 'd need to grease to get in and a sink plunger to get me out again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The "bunks" (racks) on a ship are affectionately known as coffins.
They're about 72"x30"x18"I'm tiny by American standards but I'd need to grease to get in  and a sink plunger to get me out again.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30661646</id>
	<title>Smoke</title>
	<author>Rasperin</author>
	<datestamp>1262690220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>When I traveled to Japan I ended up staying in a capsule hotel for one night. The problem (and only problem) I had with them is the fact that they allow smoking. Almost every japanese male (male only btw) smokes, as one of my old japanese coworkers said "You aren't a man if you don't smoke". Well, when you have 510 people smoking in a very very small building it becomes not only disgusting but I got really sick from it. After that day I stopped smoking, and haven't lit up since.</htmltext>
<tokenext>When I traveled to Japan I ended up staying in a capsule hotel for one night .
The problem ( and only problem ) I had with them is the fact that they allow smoking .
Almost every japanese male ( male only btw ) smokes , as one of my old japanese coworkers said " You are n't a man if you do n't smoke " .
Well , when you have 510 people smoking in a very very small building it becomes not only disgusting but I got really sick from it .
After that day I stopped smoking , and have n't lit up since .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I traveled to Japan I ended up staying in a capsule hotel for one night.
The problem (and only problem) I had with them is the fact that they allow smoking.
Almost every japanese male (male only btw) smokes, as one of my old japanese coworkers said "You aren't a man if you don't smoke".
Well, when you have 510 people smoking in a very very small building it becomes not only disgusting but I got really sick from it.
After that day I stopped smoking, and haven't lit up since.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30661586</id>
	<title>Re:Sounds like the Navy.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262689860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I did 6 months of that multiple times. Its not too bad.</p></div><p>Then again, your paycheck is being deposited to the proper account, the chow is regular and nutritious, and the guys next to you are your fellow sailors.<br>I imagine it's an entirely different experience when your looking for a job, counting the remaining yen in your wallet, lying next to a bunch of strangers similar only in their unfortunate circumstances.</p></div>
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<tokenext>I did 6 months of that multiple times .
Its not too bad.Then again , your paycheck is being deposited to the proper account , the chow is regular and nutritious , and the guys next to you are your fellow sailors.I imagine it 's an entirely different experience when your looking for a job , counting the remaining yen in your wallet , lying next to a bunch of strangers similar only in their unfortunate circumstances .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I did 6 months of that multiple times.
Its not too bad.Then again, your paycheck is being deposited to the proper account, the chow is regular and nutritious, and the guys next to you are your fellow sailors.I imagine it's an entirely different experience when your looking for a job, counting the remaining yen in your wallet, lying next to a bunch of strangers similar only in their unfortunate circumstances.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30662126</id>
	<title>This is great</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262692380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>(Opinion Alert)</p><p>I'd love to see it implemented in the states. We yanks over the pond seem to think the size of your sleeping quarters is essentially proportional to your rank in society, and having this totally alternative means of housing, even for just a short term, could provide a constructive new perspective to a lot of people. Hitting "rock bottom," while still absolutely devastating, would be <i>survivable</i>. You'd have to start from the beginning (and bottom), but for people that fall off the wagon that's usually what they need. These domiciles could also become a sort of luxury for the homeless on particularly stormy days. Since all things age, perhaps in time the older capsule's could be subsidized for permanent homeless accommodation. I just really can't see a downside to these things, and can only see a huge gain for a variety of cultures in the US.</p><p>Also, capsules would enable a lifestyle not seen since the 60s and 70s (the most artistically prolific period of the US, IMO, and largely in part of the widespread bohemianism), and it would not be fueled by drugs, an outcasted youth, and war but rather the simple fact that its realistic and safe. It would be possible to live a completely normal life without ever owning a home and just paying your $X to bunk up on whatever side of town you ended the night. Whether or not you choose to accept it, there is a fairly large bohemian subculture in the US and cheap capsule housing could transform the lifestyle into something safer. And like I said before, all of the homeless could potentially take advantage of this. This benefits all of society in a multitude of ways--less people on the streets means less crime, less disease, and prettier cities just to name a few.  If you're apposed to bohemianism and alternative lifestyles then think of it this way: we dirty hippies would finally be off of your lawn!</p><p>I could keep going on about how profitable this could be for the private sector, and how cheap this would be for the government to utilize (seems like they already do, see Navy post) but I'm pretty high and getting rambly so I'll spare you that mess. I can't wait to read the replies on this story... hopefully there'll be a good debate on whether capsule housing is practical or not.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>( Opinion Alert ) I 'd love to see it implemented in the states .
We yanks over the pond seem to think the size of your sleeping quarters is essentially proportional to your rank in society , and having this totally alternative means of housing , even for just a short term , could provide a constructive new perspective to a lot of people .
Hitting " rock bottom , " while still absolutely devastating , would be survivable .
You 'd have to start from the beginning ( and bottom ) , but for people that fall off the wagon that 's usually what they need .
These domiciles could also become a sort of luxury for the homeless on particularly stormy days .
Since all things age , perhaps in time the older capsule 's could be subsidized for permanent homeless accommodation .
I just really ca n't see a downside to these things , and can only see a huge gain for a variety of cultures in the US.Also , capsules would enable a lifestyle not seen since the 60s and 70s ( the most artistically prolific period of the US , IMO , and largely in part of the widespread bohemianism ) , and it would not be fueled by drugs , an outcasted youth , and war but rather the simple fact that its realistic and safe .
It would be possible to live a completely normal life without ever owning a home and just paying your $ X to bunk up on whatever side of town you ended the night .
Whether or not you choose to accept it , there is a fairly large bohemian subculture in the US and cheap capsule housing could transform the lifestyle into something safer .
And like I said before , all of the homeless could potentially take advantage of this .
This benefits all of society in a multitude of ways--less people on the streets means less crime , less disease , and prettier cities just to name a few .
If you 're apposed to bohemianism and alternative lifestyles then think of it this way : we dirty hippies would finally be off of your lawn ! I could keep going on about how profitable this could be for the private sector , and how cheap this would be for the government to utilize ( seems like they already do , see Navy post ) but I 'm pretty high and getting rambly so I 'll spare you that mess .
I ca n't wait to read the replies on this story... hopefully there 'll be a good debate on whether capsule housing is practical or not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>(Opinion Alert)I'd love to see it implemented in the states.
We yanks over the pond seem to think the size of your sleeping quarters is essentially proportional to your rank in society, and having this totally alternative means of housing, even for just a short term, could provide a constructive new perspective to a lot of people.
Hitting "rock bottom," while still absolutely devastating, would be survivable.
You'd have to start from the beginning (and bottom), but for people that fall off the wagon that's usually what they need.
These domiciles could also become a sort of luxury for the homeless on particularly stormy days.
Since all things age, perhaps in time the older capsule's could be subsidized for permanent homeless accommodation.
I just really can't see a downside to these things, and can only see a huge gain for a variety of cultures in the US.Also, capsules would enable a lifestyle not seen since the 60s and 70s (the most artistically prolific period of the US, IMO, and largely in part of the widespread bohemianism), and it would not be fueled by drugs, an outcasted youth, and war but rather the simple fact that its realistic and safe.
It would be possible to live a completely normal life without ever owning a home and just paying your $X to bunk up on whatever side of town you ended the night.
Whether or not you choose to accept it, there is a fairly large bohemian subculture in the US and cheap capsule housing could transform the lifestyle into something safer.
And like I said before, all of the homeless could potentially take advantage of this.
This benefits all of society in a multitude of ways--less people on the streets means less crime, less disease, and prettier cities just to name a few.
If you're apposed to bohemianism and alternative lifestyles then think of it this way: we dirty hippies would finally be off of your lawn!I could keep going on about how profitable this could be for the private sector, and how cheap this would be for the government to utilize (seems like they already do, see Navy post) but I'm pretty high and getting rambly so I'll spare you that mess.
I can't wait to read the replies on this story... hopefully there'll be a good debate on whether capsule housing is practical or not.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30662608</id>
	<title>Wrong (mostly)</title>
	<author>dgr73</author>
	<datestamp>1262694900000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>Tattoos on westeners are not looked upon with the same stigma as tattoos on Japanese (and even this is lessening nowadays, especially for discreet non-yakuza tattoos). <br>
Even high end spas in the countryside accept westeners with discreet(ish) tattoos. Yes, the official policy is still "100\% tattoo ban", but it's not enforced. Hell, some places even let Yakuza in, but maybe those are not the finest of establishments.<p>
On a topic more related to OP: The capsule hotels are not that bad, especially since you have washing facilities and good security. Also, if you have a capsule hotel where you can make a deal not to be thrown out every morning with all your belongings, which is what usually happens, and if you can make it a permanent address for jobseeking purposes, it becomes a downright awesome option for people on the way down or early on their way up.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Tattoos on westeners are not looked upon with the same stigma as tattoos on Japanese ( and even this is lessening nowadays , especially for discreet non-yakuza tattoos ) .
Even high end spas in the countryside accept westeners with discreet ( ish ) tattoos .
Yes , the official policy is still " 100 \ % tattoo ban " , but it 's not enforced .
Hell , some places even let Yakuza in , but maybe those are not the finest of establishments .
On a topic more related to OP : The capsule hotels are not that bad , especially since you have washing facilities and good security .
Also , if you have a capsule hotel where you can make a deal not to be thrown out every morning with all your belongings , which is what usually happens , and if you can make it a permanent address for jobseeking purposes , it becomes a downright awesome option for people on the way down or early on their way up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tattoos on westeners are not looked upon with the same stigma as tattoos on Japanese (and even this is lessening nowadays, especially for discreet non-yakuza tattoos).
Even high end spas in the countryside accept westeners with discreet(ish) tattoos.
Yes, the official policy is still "100\% tattoo ban", but it's not enforced.
Hell, some places even let Yakuza in, but maybe those are not the finest of establishments.
On a topic more related to OP: The capsule hotels are not that bad, especially since you have washing facilities and good security.
Also, if you have a capsule hotel where you can make a deal not to be thrown out every morning with all your belongings, which is what usually happens, and if you can make it a permanent address for jobseeking purposes, it becomes a downright awesome option for people on the way down or early on their way up.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30665300</id>
	<title>Re:Westerners</title>
	<author>MsGeek</author>
	<datestamp>1262710200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They aren't going to increase the Japanese population talking to women like that. One of the reasons why Japan is in the population fix it's in is because women have decided "Screw it, I'm having too much fun being single, and being a married woman is akin to a season in Hell anyway, especially if you are married to a First Son, so I'm going to live with my parents and spend my money on fashion and Host Clubs and Yaoi doujinshi."</p><p>The reason why women make the choice to become a "parasite single" is not just a rebellion against society's expectations of being a "good wife and good mother," but it has a lot to do also with the economic situation that pretty much started with the end of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sh\%C5\%8Dwa\_period" title="wikipedia.org">Showa era</a> [wikipedia.org] and the beginning of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heisei\_period" title="wikipedia.org">Heisei era</a> [wikipedia.org]. When the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese\_asset\_price\_bubble" title="wikipedia.org">bubble economy</a> [wikipedia.org] burst in 1990, the earning power of the Japanese male burst as well. The old assumptions collapsed. You didn't graduate a prestigious university and get a job for life. Much of the excesses of Sarariman life was forgiven because, well, he would bring home the salary. Now, after the burst of the bubble economy, employment was scarce and tenuous.</p><p>Marriage had long ago evolved from a business arrangement between families to a partnership arrangement between a man and a woman -- love usually was way down the list even during the go-go '70s and '80s -- so the economic viability of the potential husband determined his marriageability. With so many young men graduating from university without the guarantees their fathers and grandfathers have, you wind up with with lots of single men and single women.</p><p>There is a huge stigma against birth out of wedlock in Japan, way more than in the West. So the economic and social situation means birth rates have plummeted.</p><p>You cannot simply wish away the current situation, or sloganize it away. This is the result of a social collapse unprecedented in Japanese society.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They are n't going to increase the Japanese population talking to women like that .
One of the reasons why Japan is in the population fix it 's in is because women have decided " Screw it , I 'm having too much fun being single , and being a married woman is akin to a season in Hell anyway , especially if you are married to a First Son , so I 'm going to live with my parents and spend my money on fashion and Host Clubs and Yaoi doujinshi .
" The reason why women make the choice to become a " parasite single " is not just a rebellion against society 's expectations of being a " good wife and good mother , " but it has a lot to do also with the economic situation that pretty much started with the end of the Showa era [ wikipedia.org ] and the beginning of the Heisei era [ wikipedia.org ] .
When the bubble economy [ wikipedia.org ] burst in 1990 , the earning power of the Japanese male burst as well .
The old assumptions collapsed .
You did n't graduate a prestigious university and get a job for life .
Much of the excesses of Sarariman life was forgiven because , well , he would bring home the salary .
Now , after the burst of the bubble economy , employment was scarce and tenuous.Marriage had long ago evolved from a business arrangement between families to a partnership arrangement between a man and a woman -- love usually was way down the list even during the go-go '70s and '80s -- so the economic viability of the potential husband determined his marriageability .
With so many young men graduating from university without the guarantees their fathers and grandfathers have , you wind up with with lots of single men and single women.There is a huge stigma against birth out of wedlock in Japan , way more than in the West .
So the economic and social situation means birth rates have plummeted.You can not simply wish away the current situation , or sloganize it away .
This is the result of a social collapse unprecedented in Japanese society .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They aren't going to increase the Japanese population talking to women like that.
One of the reasons why Japan is in the population fix it's in is because women have decided "Screw it, I'm having too much fun being single, and being a married woman is akin to a season in Hell anyway, especially if you are married to a First Son, so I'm going to live with my parents and spend my money on fashion and Host Clubs and Yaoi doujinshi.
"The reason why women make the choice to become a "parasite single" is not just a rebellion against society's expectations of being a "good wife and good mother," but it has a lot to do also with the economic situation that pretty much started with the end of the Showa era [wikipedia.org] and the beginning of the Heisei era [wikipedia.org].
When the bubble economy [wikipedia.org] burst in 1990, the earning power of the Japanese male burst as well.
The old assumptions collapsed.
You didn't graduate a prestigious university and get a job for life.
Much of the excesses of Sarariman life was forgiven because, well, he would bring home the salary.
Now, after the burst of the bubble economy, employment was scarce and tenuous.Marriage had long ago evolved from a business arrangement between families to a partnership arrangement between a man and a woman -- love usually was way down the list even during the go-go '70s and '80s -- so the economic viability of the potential husband determined his marriageability.
With so many young men graduating from university without the guarantees their fathers and grandfathers have, you wind up with with lots of single men and single women.There is a huge stigma against birth out of wedlock in Japan, way more than in the West.
So the economic and social situation means birth rates have plummeted.You cannot simply wish away the current situation, or sloganize it away.
This is the result of a social collapse unprecedented in Japanese society.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30663042</id>
	<title>Re:I'm casually calling BS</title>
	<author>PhantomHarlock</author>
	<datestamp>1262696880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Remember how much 'key money' is to get an apartment?  Like a bunch of month's rent up front as a bribe?    I'm guessing that's a contributing factor.</p><p>If the figures from the people who run the hotel are correct, that seems like an actual trend to me.   the # of long term residents vs. one-nighter drunkards.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Remember how much 'key money ' is to get an apartment ?
Like a bunch of month 's rent up front as a bribe ?
I 'm guessing that 's a contributing factor.If the figures from the people who run the hotel are correct , that seems like an actual trend to me .
the # of long term residents vs. one-nighter drunkards .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Remember how much 'key money' is to get an apartment?
Like a bunch of month's rent up front as a bribe?
I'm guessing that's a contributing factor.If the figures from the people who run the hotel are correct, that seems like an actual trend to me.
the # of long term residents vs. one-nighter drunkards.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30674144</id>
	<title>Cheesy movie reference...</title>
	<author>emoseman</author>
	<datestamp>1262768940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Those look eerily like the sleep cabins in the ship that Korben Dallas took to the resort ship in Fifth Element...</p><p>Just sayin...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Those look eerily like the sleep cabins in the ship that Korben Dallas took to the resort ship in Fifth Element...Just sayin.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Those look eerily like the sleep cabins in the ship that Korben Dallas took to the resort ship in Fifth Element...Just sayin...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30661242</id>
	<title>Re:Westerners</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262688600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>only if they fit</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>only if they fit</tokentext>
<sentencetext>only if they fit</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30664282</id>
	<title>Re:Westerners</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262703780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You might want to brush up on your generalizations a bit. The tattoo issue is fairly relaxed in most places, and largely only an issue at onsens and sentos, and even then, mostly at times when children are about. The ban itself strictly applies to Japanese full-body irezumi, although some places do fail to differentiate. As long as you can cover up you can usually get in during the day-time, too. Also note that the Japanese constitution doesn't permit for discrimination on racial grounds, and most of the places with gaikokujin tachiiri kinshi signs will back down if you speak Japanese well enough to call them on it.</p><p>As far as the gender segregation issue, capsule hotels are treated largely the same as onsens and sentos which are also generally segregated for reasons that have nothing to do with rape. Capsule hotels were originally aimed at the salaryman demographic, but with up to half of them being rented out monthly these days it's certainly a changing situation. Drunken salarymen who failed to catch the last train after the previous night's nomikai also far outnumber their female counterparts, so it's not terribly difficult to work out why there are more that aren't setup to accommodate women. It's not like there's a shortage of options anyways, rest periods in love hotels and the closest mangakissa have been serving the same purpose with no mind to gender for years.</p><p>I'm not sure what your rant about Yanagisawa-san is meant to accomplish. He made a bad analogy and paid for it, while the point he was drying to drive home remains true. Incidentally it took an LDP-&gt;DPJ shift to make more concessions and incentives for having children, but the low-to-non-existent birthrate issue remains a serious one.</p><p>For someone that harps on about dated stereotypes and gender roles in modern Japanese society you sure don't seem to have spent much time trying to understand the society, which is truly unfortunate.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You might want to brush up on your generalizations a bit .
The tattoo issue is fairly relaxed in most places , and largely only an issue at onsens and sentos , and even then , mostly at times when children are about .
The ban itself strictly applies to Japanese full-body irezumi , although some places do fail to differentiate .
As long as you can cover up you can usually get in during the day-time , too .
Also note that the Japanese constitution does n't permit for discrimination on racial grounds , and most of the places with gaikokujin tachiiri kinshi signs will back down if you speak Japanese well enough to call them on it.As far as the gender segregation issue , capsule hotels are treated largely the same as onsens and sentos which are also generally segregated for reasons that have nothing to do with rape .
Capsule hotels were originally aimed at the salaryman demographic , but with up to half of them being rented out monthly these days it 's certainly a changing situation .
Drunken salarymen who failed to catch the last train after the previous night 's nomikai also far outnumber their female counterparts , so it 's not terribly difficult to work out why there are more that are n't setup to accommodate women .
It 's not like there 's a shortage of options anyways , rest periods in love hotels and the closest mangakissa have been serving the same purpose with no mind to gender for years.I 'm not sure what your rant about Yanagisawa-san is meant to accomplish .
He made a bad analogy and paid for it , while the point he was drying to drive home remains true .
Incidentally it took an LDP- &gt; DPJ shift to make more concessions and incentives for having children , but the low-to-non-existent birthrate issue remains a serious one.For someone that harps on about dated stereotypes and gender roles in modern Japanese society you sure do n't seem to have spent much time trying to understand the society , which is truly unfortunate .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You might want to brush up on your generalizations a bit.
The tattoo issue is fairly relaxed in most places, and largely only an issue at onsens and sentos, and even then, mostly at times when children are about.
The ban itself strictly applies to Japanese full-body irezumi, although some places do fail to differentiate.
As long as you can cover up you can usually get in during the day-time, too.
Also note that the Japanese constitution doesn't permit for discrimination on racial grounds, and most of the places with gaikokujin tachiiri kinshi signs will back down if you speak Japanese well enough to call them on it.As far as the gender segregation issue, capsule hotels are treated largely the same as onsens and sentos which are also generally segregated for reasons that have nothing to do with rape.
Capsule hotels were originally aimed at the salaryman demographic, but with up to half of them being rented out monthly these days it's certainly a changing situation.
Drunken salarymen who failed to catch the last train after the previous night's nomikai also far outnumber their female counterparts, so it's not terribly difficult to work out why there are more that aren't setup to accommodate women.
It's not like there's a shortage of options anyways, rest periods in love hotels and the closest mangakissa have been serving the same purpose with no mind to gender for years.I'm not sure what your rant about Yanagisawa-san is meant to accomplish.
He made a bad analogy and paid for it, while the point he was drying to drive home remains true.
Incidentally it took an LDP-&gt;DPJ shift to make more concessions and incentives for having children, but the low-to-non-existent birthrate issue remains a serious one.For someone that harps on about dated stereotypes and gender roles in modern Japanese society you sure don't seem to have spent much time trying to understand the society, which is truly unfortunate.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30671502</id>
	<title>Re:Westerners</title>
	<author>BoothbyTCD</author>
	<datestamp>1262801040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I never noticed that they particularly cared about tatoos on gaijin though, just japanese people.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I never noticed that they particularly cared about tatoos on gaijin though , just japanese people .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I never noticed that they particularly cared about tatoos on gaijin though, just japanese people.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Sounds like the Navy.</title>
	<author>StikyPad</author>
	<datestamp>1262691600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just don't take the bottom rack.  Remember folks, drunken pee flows downhill.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just do n't take the bottom rack .
Remember folks , drunken pee flows downhill .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just don't take the bottom rack.
Remember folks, drunken pee flows downhill.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30661598</id>
	<title>Re:Westerners</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262689980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I wonder if Westerners are accepted at these places?</p></div><p>As with all things in Japan, it depends. Westerners will be allowed in if they satisfy the requirements posted on the wall at the reception area. In most cases, anyone with tattoos will be barred entry (since tattoos == yakuza in japan).
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Also, most capsule hotels are exclusively for men because it reduces the risk of rape (versus co-ed). There are one or two capsule hotels in Tokyo that I could find that are exclusively for women, but since the whole point of a capsule hotel is to provide a place for a salaryman (read: regular joe schmoe employee) to catch some sleep after a night of drinking and missing his last train home, it doesn't often happen that a woman would *need* to stay in a capsule hotel. Especially since Japanese society still largely encourages women to abandon their careers once they have children. And, as we all know, Japanese women are expected to be <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6306685.stm" title="bbc.co.uk" rel="nofollow"> baby making machines </a> [bbc.co.uk], so *not* having children isn't really seen as an option.
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<br>
Disclaimer: I lived in (albeit rural) Japan from 2005-2007, and I'm female. I looked for capsule hotels when I was there, and there were few that would accept me. My views on women's rights and societal expectations in Japan may be somewhat biased by my small-town life there, as even in Canada small-town women get exposed to fewer options and seemingly have fewer acceptable life choices than those in major cities.</p></div>
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<tokenext>I wonder if Westerners are accepted at these places ? As with all things in Japan , it depends .
Westerners will be allowed in if they satisfy the requirements posted on the wall at the reception area .
In most cases , anyone with tattoos will be barred entry ( since tattoos = = yakuza in japan ) .
Also , most capsule hotels are exclusively for men because it reduces the risk of rape ( versus co-ed ) .
There are one or two capsule hotels in Tokyo that I could find that are exclusively for women , but since the whole point of a capsule hotel is to provide a place for a salaryman ( read : regular joe schmoe employee ) to catch some sleep after a night of drinking and missing his last train home , it does n't often happen that a woman would * need * to stay in a capsule hotel .
Especially since Japanese society still largely encourages women to abandon their careers once they have children .
And , as we all know , Japanese women are expected to be baby making machines [ bbc.co.uk ] , so * not * having children is n't really seen as an option .
Disclaimer : I lived in ( albeit rural ) Japan from 2005-2007 , and I 'm female .
I looked for capsule hotels when I was there , and there were few that would accept me .
My views on women 's rights and societal expectations in Japan may be somewhat biased by my small-town life there , as even in Canada small-town women get exposed to fewer options and seemingly have fewer acceptable life choices than those in major cities .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder if Westerners are accepted at these places?As with all things in Japan, it depends.
Westerners will be allowed in if they satisfy the requirements posted on the wall at the reception area.
In most cases, anyone with tattoos will be barred entry (since tattoos == yakuza in japan).
Also, most capsule hotels are exclusively for men because it reduces the risk of rape (versus co-ed).
There are one or two capsule hotels in Tokyo that I could find that are exclusively for women, but since the whole point of a capsule hotel is to provide a place for a salaryman (read: regular joe schmoe employee) to catch some sleep after a night of drinking and missing his last train home, it doesn't often happen that a woman would *need* to stay in a capsule hotel.
Especially since Japanese society still largely encourages women to abandon their careers once they have children.
And, as we all know, Japanese women are expected to be  baby making machines  [bbc.co.uk], so *not* having children isn't really seen as an option.
Disclaimer: I lived in (albeit rural) Japan from 2005-2007, and I'm female.
I looked for capsule hotels when I was there, and there were few that would accept me.
My views on women's rights and societal expectations in Japan may be somewhat biased by my small-town life there, as even in Canada small-town women get exposed to fewer options and seemingly have fewer acceptable life choices than those in major cities.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30661494</id>
	<title>Very surprising for Japan</title>
	<author>PhantomHarlock</author>
	<datestamp>1262689500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The fact that Japan's homelessness is large enough to now be visible is pretty shocking.  Although as far back as 2001, I saw a few homeless in Ueno park.  It's a problem they very much liked to sweep under the rug, but they can no longer.   Most Japanese are taught to save as much as we spend, even if you're dirt poor, and that usually mitigates the chances of one becoming homeless, if it is only for lack of a job.  But as the person at the end of the article shows, that will only go so far, if you are out of a job for a long time.   An increasing disconnectedness in family structure may also contribute to a decreasing natural social safety net in urban areas.   The latter is only a guess.    There are varying qualities of capsule hotels, and it sounds like the lower end ones are becoming long term residencies.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The fact that Japan 's homelessness is large enough to now be visible is pretty shocking .
Although as far back as 2001 , I saw a few homeless in Ueno park .
It 's a problem they very much liked to sweep under the rug , but they can no longer .
Most Japanese are taught to save as much as we spend , even if you 're dirt poor , and that usually mitigates the chances of one becoming homeless , if it is only for lack of a job .
But as the person at the end of the article shows , that will only go so far , if you are out of a job for a long time .
An increasing disconnectedness in family structure may also contribute to a decreasing natural social safety net in urban areas .
The latter is only a guess .
There are varying qualities of capsule hotels , and it sounds like the lower end ones are becoming long term residencies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The fact that Japan's homelessness is large enough to now be visible is pretty shocking.
Although as far back as 2001, I saw a few homeless in Ueno park.
It's a problem they very much liked to sweep under the rug, but they can no longer.
Most Japanese are taught to save as much as we spend, even if you're dirt poor, and that usually mitigates the chances of one becoming homeless, if it is only for lack of a job.
But as the person at the end of the article shows, that will only go so far, if you are out of a job for a long time.
An increasing disconnectedness in family structure may also contribute to a decreasing natural social safety net in urban areas.
The latter is only a guess.
There are varying qualities of capsule hotels, and it sounds like the lower end ones are becoming long term residencies.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Very affordable</title>
	<author>vivian</author>
	<datestamp>1262808900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I stayed in a 4.5 Jo room (6.9 Square meters) in a Riyokan (traditional japanese hotel with lots of wood, paper screens, tea room, etc) which was about 7 min walk from Ikebukero station for about 3 months, in 1994. I was  paying 2300 yen per day, daily - I was expecting to get my own place or find a share house any day, so I didn't negotiate a monthly deal - so I was paying about 69958 yen a month (USD $761) , with a pretty well maintained shared bathroom (big soak tub etc) and common shared areas where you could hang out. Overall, the experience wasn't too bad - and certainly better than a lot of the Gaijin houses I went to check out, which were mostly complete dumps. If I was ever going to Tokyo again for only a few weeks or months, and on a budget, that's how I would be doing it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I stayed in a 4.5 Jo room ( 6.9 Square meters ) in a Riyokan ( traditional japanese hotel with lots of wood , paper screens , tea room , etc ) which was about 7 min walk from Ikebukero station for about 3 months , in 1994 .
I was paying 2300 yen per day , daily - I was expecting to get my own place or find a share house any day , so I did n't negotiate a monthly deal - so I was paying about 69958 yen a month ( USD $ 761 ) , with a pretty well maintained shared bathroom ( big soak tub etc ) and common shared areas where you could hang out .
Overall , the experience was n't too bad - and certainly better than a lot of the Gaijin houses I went to check out , which were mostly complete dumps .
If I was ever going to Tokyo again for only a few weeks or months , and on a budget , that 's how I would be doing it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I stayed in a 4.5 Jo room (6.9 Square meters) in a Riyokan (traditional japanese hotel with lots of wood, paper screens, tea room, etc) which was about 7 min walk from Ikebukero station for about 3 months, in 1994.
I was  paying 2300 yen per day, daily - I was expecting to get my own place or find a share house any day, so I didn't negotiate a monthly deal - so I was paying about 69958 yen a month (USD $761) , with a pretty well maintained shared bathroom (big soak tub etc) and common shared areas where you could hang out.
Overall, the experience wasn't too bad - and certainly better than a lot of the Gaijin houses I went to check out, which were mostly complete dumps.
If I was ever going to Tokyo again for only a few weeks or months, and on a budget, that's how I would be doing it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30663604</id>
	<title>Re:Their own damned fault</title>
	<author>StrategicIrony</author>
	<datestamp>1262699400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Modern economies require both employers and employees.</p><p>It's a bit of the Cypres experiment from "brave new world" where a society was constructed of only "alpha" class individuals who ultimately degrated into fighting because of their unwillingness to engage in menial tasks.</p><p>Japanese culture, especially, strongly contributes to "groupthink" in a way that makes it actually quite a bit harder than it does as an American, to consider something like starting a business.</p><p>While I may run several businesses myself, I'm not quite sure I can bring myself to such a pinnacle of arrogance to suggest that any employee who is found wanting work is inherently himself to blame, since I recognize that it is absurd for a post-industrial society to consist of a majority of business owners with little to no labor pool.</p><p>So, tell me, was it ignorance of post-industrial macroeconomics or sheer arrogance that prompted this post?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Modern economies require both employers and employees.It 's a bit of the Cypres experiment from " brave new world " where a society was constructed of only " alpha " class individuals who ultimately degrated into fighting because of their unwillingness to engage in menial tasks.Japanese culture , especially , strongly contributes to " groupthink " in a way that makes it actually quite a bit harder than it does as an American , to consider something like starting a business.While I may run several businesses myself , I 'm not quite sure I can bring myself to such a pinnacle of arrogance to suggest that any employee who is found wanting work is inherently himself to blame , since I recognize that it is absurd for a post-industrial society to consist of a majority of business owners with little to no labor pool.So , tell me , was it ignorance of post-industrial macroeconomics or sheer arrogance that prompted this post ?
: - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Modern economies require both employers and employees.It's a bit of the Cypres experiment from "brave new world" where a society was constructed of only "alpha" class individuals who ultimately degrated into fighting because of their unwillingness to engage in menial tasks.Japanese culture, especially, strongly contributes to "groupthink" in a way that makes it actually quite a bit harder than it does as an American, to consider something like starting a business.While I may run several businesses myself, I'm not quite sure I can bring myself to such a pinnacle of arrogance to suggest that any employee who is found wanting work is inherently himself to blame, since I recognize that it is absurd for a post-industrial society to consist of a majority of business owners with little to no labor pool.So, tell me, was it ignorance of post-industrial macroeconomics or sheer arrogance that prompted this post?
:-)</sentencetext>
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	<title>Compare to NYC</title>
	<author>Antique Geekmeister</author>
	<datestamp>1262692800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Craigslist for NYC shows single rooms in sublets or shared apartments at a minimum of $125/week, so it's not outrageous to have your own space with a lockable door this way.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Craigslist for NYC shows single rooms in sublets or shared apartments at a minimum of $ 125/week , so it 's not outrageous to have your own space with a lockable door this way .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Craigslist for NYC shows single rooms in sublets or shared apartments at a minimum of $125/week, so it's not outrageous to have your own space with a lockable door this way.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30663040</id>
	<title>Re:This is great</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262696880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p><i>I'd love to see it implemented in the states. </i></p><p>Americans are widely believed to be the fattest people in the world and you're suggesting implementing Japanese-style capsule hotels in the US?</p><p>I don't think you've thought this through.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd love to see it implemented in the states .
Americans are widely believed to be the fattest people in the world and you 're suggesting implementing Japanese-style capsule hotels in the US ? I do n't think you 've thought this through .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd love to see it implemented in the states.
Americans are widely believed to be the fattest people in the world and you're suggesting implementing Japanese-style capsule hotels in the US?I don't think you've thought this through.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_176252.30666242</id>
	<title>Re:Very surprising for Japan</title>
	<author>|TheMAN</author>
	<datestamp>1262718960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There were a bunch of homeless camping out at the Ikebukuro "west gate" park when I was there in April. I wasn't surprised at all.</p><p>There weren't any in Ueno park because they all got kicked out for the Golden Week festival stuff.</p><p>There was a bunch of other homeless people in Yoyogi park when I walked from Harajuku to Shibuya (the long "scenic route") but they weren't close to the street but rather inside the park (you had to really look) unlike the ones who were just blatantly there in Ikebukuro.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There were a bunch of homeless camping out at the Ikebukuro " west gate " park when I was there in April .
I was n't surprised at all.There were n't any in Ueno park because they all got kicked out for the Golden Week festival stuff.There was a bunch of other homeless people in Yoyogi park when I walked from Harajuku to Shibuya ( the long " scenic route " ) but they were n't close to the street but rather inside the park ( you had to really look ) unlike the ones who were just blatantly there in Ikebukuro .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There were a bunch of homeless camping out at the Ikebukuro "west gate" park when I was there in April.
I wasn't surprised at all.There weren't any in Ueno park because they all got kicked out for the Golden Week festival stuff.There was a bunch of other homeless people in Yoyogi park when I walked from Harajuku to Shibuya (the long "scenic route") but they weren't close to the street but rather inside the park (you had to really look) unlike the ones who were just blatantly there in Ikebukuro.</sentencetext>
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