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	<title>Kurzweil Takes On Kindle With "Blio" E-Reader</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1262704920000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>kkleiner writes <i>"Ray Kurzweil, prolific inventor and Singularity enthusiast, is planning to debut Blio at CES 2010. <a href="http://singularityhub.com/2010/01/04/kurzweil-takes-on-kindle-with-new-e-reader-platform-blio/">Blio is an e-reader platform</a>, not hardware, that can be used on PC, Mac, iPhone and iPod touch. Developed by Kurzweil company knfb Reading, Blio preserves the original format of books including typography, and illustrations, in full color.  It also takes advantage of knfb&rsquo;s high quality text to speech capabilities and supports animation and video content."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>kkleiner writes " Ray Kurzweil , prolific inventor and Singularity enthusiast , is planning to debut Blio at CES 2010 .
Blio is an e-reader platform , not hardware , that can be used on PC , Mac , iPhone and iPod touch .
Developed by Kurzweil company knfb Reading , Blio preserves the original format of books including typography , and illustrations , in full color .
It also takes advantage of knfb    s high quality text to speech capabilities and supports animation and video content .
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<sentencetext>kkleiner writes "Ray Kurzweil, prolific inventor and Singularity enthusiast, is planning to debut Blio at CES 2010.
Blio is an e-reader platform, not hardware, that can be used on PC, Mac, iPhone and iPod touch.
Developed by Kurzweil company knfb Reading, Blio preserves the original format of books including typography, and illustrations, in full color.
It also takes advantage of knfb’s high quality text to speech capabilities and supports animation and video content.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30657974</id>
	<title>Re:Computer versus Kindle</title>
	<author>shutdown -p now</author>
	<datestamp>1262718360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Also, Blio on PC, Mac, iPhone and iPod touch, but no Linux? WTF?</p></div><p>All you need from a good and fast e-book reader on Windows and Linux is <a href="http://www.fbreader.org/about.php" title="fbreader.org">FBReader</a> [fbreader.org], anyway. Open source, lightning fast, lightweight UI - what else do you want?</p><p>Combine with large-point FreeSerif on high-DPI screens to get nice "PDF-like" font smoothing, and you're all set.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Also , Blio on PC , Mac , iPhone and iPod touch , but no Linux ?
WTF ? All you need from a good and fast e-book reader on Windows and Linux is FBReader [ fbreader.org ] , anyway .
Open source , lightning fast , lightweight UI - what else do you want ? Combine with large-point FreeSerif on high-DPI screens to get nice " PDF-like " font smoothing , and you 're all set .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Also, Blio on PC, Mac, iPhone and iPod touch, but no Linux?
WTF?All you need from a good and fast e-book reader on Windows and Linux is FBReader [fbreader.org], anyway.
Open source, lightning fast, lightweight UI - what else do you want?Combine with large-point FreeSerif on high-DPI screens to get nice "PDF-like" font smoothing, and you're all set.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30656444</id>
	<title>iPods are superb e-readers</title>
	<author>fyngyrz</author>
	<datestamp>1262713440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p> <i>
Who reads a book on an iPod or phone?
</i></p></div>
</blockquote><p>
I do. All the time. And I own a hardware Kindle, too. But the Kindle app on the iPod Touch is *much* better (brighter, faster, lighter, better contrast, less eye movement, easier to hold, works in the dark, no ghosting, totally one-handed use, tons more storage.) Of the five font sizes, I use the three smallest depending on how much movement is going on. Passenger in a car, middle size. Late at night, still in bed, I use the smallest size. Otherwise, the next to smallest size. While I'm reading, my iPod Touch is checking my email, my chess games, my Words with Friends games (similar to Scrabble), allows me instant access to the weather, checks my servers to make sure they're all up and accessible, basically all kinds of apps, plays my favorite music for me, fits in my pocket, handles LOTS of other e-reader formats including PDF, in full color... downside? I have to charge it about once a day... which doesn't stop me from using it, it just temporarily (and vaguely) tethers me to the car, couch, desk or bed. Big whoop.
</p><p>
This is why I don't even bother with the hardware Kindle. It's also why I'm very interested to see what Apple does with the hopefully forthcoming tablet. Not holding my breath after the no-camera, no-GPS iPod non-release last cycle, but one can hope.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)
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<tokenext>Who reads a book on an iPod or phone ?
I do .
All the time .
And I own a hardware Kindle , too .
But the Kindle app on the iPod Touch is * much * better ( brighter , faster , lighter , better contrast , less eye movement , easier to hold , works in the dark , no ghosting , totally one-handed use , tons more storage .
) Of the five font sizes , I use the three smallest depending on how much movement is going on .
Passenger in a car , middle size .
Late at night , still in bed , I use the smallest size .
Otherwise , the next to smallest size .
While I 'm reading , my iPod Touch is checking my email , my chess games , my Words with Friends games ( similar to Scrabble ) , allows me instant access to the weather , checks my servers to make sure they 're all up and accessible , basically all kinds of apps , plays my favorite music for me , fits in my pocket , handles LOTS of other e-reader formats including PDF , in full color... downside ? I have to charge it about once a day... which does n't stop me from using it , it just temporarily ( and vaguely ) tethers me to the car , couch , desk or bed .
Big whoop .
This is why I do n't even bother with the hardware Kindle .
It 's also why I 'm very interested to see what Apple does with the hopefully forthcoming tablet .
Not holding my breath after the no-camera , no-GPS iPod non-release last cycle , but one can hope .
: )</tokentext>
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Who reads a book on an iPod or phone?
I do.
All the time.
And I own a hardware Kindle, too.
But the Kindle app on the iPod Touch is *much* better (brighter, faster, lighter, better contrast, less eye movement, easier to hold, works in the dark, no ghosting, totally one-handed use, tons more storage.
) Of the five font sizes, I use the three smallest depending on how much movement is going on.
Passenger in a car, middle size.
Late at night, still in bed, I use the smallest size.
Otherwise, the next to smallest size.
While I'm reading, my iPod Touch is checking my email, my chess games, my Words with Friends games (similar to Scrabble), allows me instant access to the weather, checks my servers to make sure they're all up and accessible, basically all kinds of apps, plays my favorite music for me, fits in my pocket, handles LOTS of other e-reader formats including PDF, in full color... downside? I have to charge it about once a day... which doesn't stop me from using it, it just temporarily (and vaguely) tethers me to the car, couch, desk or bed.
Big whoop.
This is why I don't even bother with the hardware Kindle.
It's also why I'm very interested to see what Apple does with the hopefully forthcoming tablet.
Not holding my breath after the no-camera, no-GPS iPod non-release last cycle, but one can hope.
:)

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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30656634</id>
	<title>Re:Computer versus Kindle</title>
	<author>Bigjeff5</author>
	<datestamp>1262714160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Most TFT LCDs in portable devices and computer monitors do need a continuous refresh.  You're thinking of LCDs in calculators and crap, which don't.  LCD refresh is normally around 60hz.</p><p>The bigger problem is the flourescent light in most LCDs though, because that certainly does cause eyestrain.  Haven't you ever had to go through an office ergonomics whatchamajigger?  They tell you to look at your monitor no more than 10 minutes at a time to reduce eye strain.  Looking at an LCD for too long without breaks causes headaches.  It's no bueno.</p><p>So much for reading a book, eh?</p><p>This Blio e-reader isn't taking on the Kindle, it's taking on Adobe Digital Editions.  The Blio is targeting an entirely different market, namely people who have not yet known the joy of a good ebook reader, or for some reason don't like them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Most TFT LCDs in portable devices and computer monitors do need a continuous refresh .
You 're thinking of LCDs in calculators and crap , which do n't .
LCD refresh is normally around 60hz.The bigger problem is the flourescent light in most LCDs though , because that certainly does cause eyestrain .
Have n't you ever had to go through an office ergonomics whatchamajigger ?
They tell you to look at your monitor no more than 10 minutes at a time to reduce eye strain .
Looking at an LCD for too long without breaks causes headaches .
It 's no bueno.So much for reading a book , eh ? This Blio e-reader is n't taking on the Kindle , it 's taking on Adobe Digital Editions .
The Blio is targeting an entirely different market , namely people who have not yet known the joy of a good ebook reader , or for some reason do n't like them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most TFT LCDs in portable devices and computer monitors do need a continuous refresh.
You're thinking of LCDs in calculators and crap, which don't.
LCD refresh is normally around 60hz.The bigger problem is the flourescent light in most LCDs though, because that certainly does cause eyestrain.
Haven't you ever had to go through an office ergonomics whatchamajigger?
They tell you to look at your monitor no more than 10 minutes at a time to reduce eye strain.
Looking at an LCD for too long without breaks causes headaches.
It's no bueno.So much for reading a book, eh?This Blio e-reader isn't taking on the Kindle, it's taking on Adobe Digital Editions.
The Blio is targeting an entirely different market, namely people who have not yet known the joy of a good ebook reader, or for some reason don't like them.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Is this new?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262708820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>There are already many other software based ereaders that exist, this one is just a bit more featured.  Or am I being cynical again?</htmltext>
<tokenext>There are already many other software based ereaders that exist , this one is just a bit more featured .
Or am I being cynical again ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are already many other software based ereaders that exist, this one is just a bit more featured.
Or am I being cynical again?</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:One standard</title>
	<author>vlm</author>
	<datestamp>1262709960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>What appeals to me about Kindle or Nook is that it is backed by a huge retailer. I feel fairly confident that if I buy a book from them, I can access it in the future. I know they will have a huge library of titles in their format. I feel strongly that they stand a chance to become the dominant standard.</p></div><p>Sounds exactly like Circuit City's DIVX disks.... How'd that work out?</p></div>
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<tokenext>What appeals to me about Kindle or Nook is that it is backed by a huge retailer .
I feel fairly confident that if I buy a book from them , I can access it in the future .
I know they will have a huge library of titles in their format .
I feel strongly that they stand a chance to become the dominant standard.Sounds exactly like Circuit City 's DIVX disks.... How 'd that work out ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What appeals to me about Kindle or Nook is that it is backed by a huge retailer.
I feel fairly confident that if I buy a book from them, I can access it in the future.
I know they will have a huge library of titles in their format.
I feel strongly that they stand a chance to become the dominant standard.Sounds exactly like Circuit City's DIVX disks.... How'd that work out?
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30657852</id>
	<title>Re:Does Kurzweil get the idea of an e-Reader?</title>
	<author>Princeofcups</author>
	<datestamp>1262717940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>or phone?! Seriously? Do you carry around one of those magnifying screens from "Brazil"?</p></div><p>Box meet the outside.  The text can be any size.  There is no reason that the iPod screen has to display a whole "page" as we know it in print with a tiny font.  About a paragraph at a time would be about right with nice big letters, easy to read.</p></div>
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<tokenext>or phone ? !
Seriously ? Do you carry around one of those magnifying screens from " Brazil " ? Box meet the outside .
The text can be any size .
There is no reason that the iPod screen has to display a whole " page " as we know it in print with a tiny font .
About a paragraph at a time would be about right with nice big letters , easy to read .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>or phone?!
Seriously? Do you carry around one of those magnifying screens from "Brazil"?Box meet the outside.
The text can be any size.
There is no reason that the iPod screen has to display a whole "page" as we know it in print with a tiny font.
About a paragraph at a time would be about right with nice big letters, easy to read.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30657450</id>
	<title>Re:UTTERLY PATHETIC</title>
	<author>Homburg</author>
	<datestamp>1262716680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>At least this time his "invention" is a clone of a fairly useful idea, the PDF, rather than being a clone of a deeply moronic idea like the singularity.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>At least this time his " invention " is a clone of a fairly useful idea , the PDF , rather than being a clone of a deeply moronic idea like the singularity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At least this time his "invention" is a clone of a fairly useful idea, the PDF, rather than being a clone of a deeply moronic idea like the singularity.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30656166</id>
	<title>Re:Stupid names</title>
	<author>DarthSensate</author>
	<datestamp>1262712420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>Why?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... to inspire the same coziness of a book in a cold, lifeless electronic and plastic gadget.  Not that I don't like me some cold, lifeless, electronic and plastic gadgets mind you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why ?
... to inspire the same coziness of a book in a cold , lifeless electronic and plastic gadget .
Not that I do n't like me some cold , lifeless , electronic and plastic gadgets mind you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why?
... to inspire the same coziness of a book in a cold, lifeless electronic and plastic gadget.
Not that I don't like me some cold, lifeless, electronic and plastic gadgets mind you.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Is this new?</title>
	<author>bcrowell</author>
	<datestamp>1262713620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>You mean like the free Acrobat Reader? No wait, that supports only PDFs. Really the main advantage of this e-reader is that unlike Kindle, it uses a full sized monitor AND your computer [...]</p></div>
</blockquote><p>TFA tries very hard to highlight the main advantage of Blio over Kindle.
If you look at the very first screenshot in the article, it's a color illustration of a human skull from an anatomy textbook. This is an appplication that Kindle can't handle: illustrated textbooks.
Kindle is black and white, has a page that's relatively small, doesn't usually (ever?) include illustrations, and doesn't have proper formatting for math.
</p><p>
I think the main advantage of Blio over PDF is this: "Like all e-readers, Blio will adopt some form of DRM and proprietary formatting [...]" Well, that's only an advantage in the publisher's eyes, but they do seem to see it as crucial.
</p><p>
I can also imagine certain categories of books where Blio could do something useful <i>for the reader</i> that can't be done as well by PDF. Consider a public-domain edition of Gray's Anatomy. You can get it <a href="http://www.bartleby.com/107/" title="bartleby.com">here</a> [bartleby.com] in html format. Now suppose you want to read it on the bus, without carrying a full-size laptop computer with you. If the Blio software is done well, it might adapt itself better to an e-book reader than html or pdf.
</p><p>TFA says, "Kurzweil and knfb are working with Google to try to make their extensive catalog of printed materials available for Blio."
Google is not in the same market as kindle. Amazon sells a relatively small number of recent, profitable books, each of which has to be formatted for the kindle. Google has a gigantic archive of old, public-domain books, none of which is a profitable item in and of itself, but which, aggregated, make something that google might be able to profit from. There is no way that google is going to bring out special e-book editions of all those books.
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<tokenext>You mean like the free Acrobat Reader ?
No wait , that supports only PDFs .
Really the main advantage of this e-reader is that unlike Kindle , it uses a full sized monitor AND your computer [ ... ] TFA tries very hard to highlight the main advantage of Blio over Kindle .
If you look at the very first screenshot in the article , it 's a color illustration of a human skull from an anatomy textbook .
This is an appplication that Kindle ca n't handle : illustrated textbooks .
Kindle is black and white , has a page that 's relatively small , does n't usually ( ever ?
) include illustrations , and does n't have proper formatting for math .
I think the main advantage of Blio over PDF is this : " Like all e-readers , Blio will adopt some form of DRM and proprietary formatting [ ... ] " Well , that 's only an advantage in the publisher 's eyes , but they do seem to see it as crucial .
I can also imagine certain categories of books where Blio could do something useful for the reader that ca n't be done as well by PDF .
Consider a public-domain edition of Gray 's Anatomy .
You can get it here [ bartleby.com ] in html format .
Now suppose you want to read it on the bus , without carrying a full-size laptop computer with you .
If the Blio software is done well , it might adapt itself better to an e-book reader than html or pdf .
TFA says , " Kurzweil and knfb are working with Google to try to make their extensive catalog of printed materials available for Blio .
" Google is not in the same market as kindle .
Amazon sells a relatively small number of recent , profitable books , each of which has to be formatted for the kindle .
Google has a gigantic archive of old , public-domain books , none of which is a profitable item in and of itself , but which , aggregated , make something that google might be able to profit from .
There is no way that google is going to bring out special e-book editions of all those books .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You mean like the free Acrobat Reader?
No wait, that supports only PDFs.
Really the main advantage of this e-reader is that unlike Kindle, it uses a full sized monitor AND your computer [...]
TFA tries very hard to highlight the main advantage of Blio over Kindle.
If you look at the very first screenshot in the article, it's a color illustration of a human skull from an anatomy textbook.
This is an appplication that Kindle can't handle: illustrated textbooks.
Kindle is black and white, has a page that's relatively small, doesn't usually (ever?
) include illustrations, and doesn't have proper formatting for math.
I think the main advantage of Blio over PDF is this: "Like all e-readers, Blio will adopt some form of DRM and proprietary formatting [...]" Well, that's only an advantage in the publisher's eyes, but they do seem to see it as crucial.
I can also imagine certain categories of books where Blio could do something useful for the reader that can't be done as well by PDF.
Consider a public-domain edition of Gray's Anatomy.
You can get it here [bartleby.com] in html format.
Now suppose you want to read it on the bus, without carrying a full-size laptop computer with you.
If the Blio software is done well, it might adapt itself better to an e-book reader than html or pdf.
TFA says, "Kurzweil and knfb are working with Google to try to make their extensive catalog of printed materials available for Blio.
"
Google is not in the same market as kindle.
Amazon sells a relatively small number of recent, profitable books, each of which has to be formatted for the kindle.
Google has a gigantic archive of old, public-domain books, none of which is a profitable item in and of itself, but which, aggregated, make something that google might be able to profit from.
There is no way that google is going to bring out special e-book editions of all those books.

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	<title>Re:Um, that's great and all...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262716560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>Bezos came out recently and said that the long term strategy is to decouple the kindle format and the kindle reader so that other readers can read kindle formatted books and the kindle reader isn't bound exclusively to the kindle format books.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Bezos came out recently and said that the long term strategy is to decouple the kindle format and the kindle reader so that other readers can read kindle formatted books and the kindle reader is n't bound exclusively to the kindle format books .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bezos came out recently and said that the long term strategy is to decouple the kindle format and the kindle reader so that other readers can read kindle formatted books and the kindle reader isn't bound exclusively to the kindle format books.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Does Kurzweil get the idea of an e-Reader?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262713500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>"Who reads a book on an iPod or phone?!"</p><p>Presumably the software also runs on future smartbooks that may well have some sort of dual-mode swivel screen (which makes them useful as an e-reader).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Who reads a book on an iPod or phone ? !
" Presumably the software also runs on future smartbooks that may well have some sort of dual-mode swivel screen ( which makes them useful as an e-reader ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Who reads a book on an iPod or phone?!
"Presumably the software also runs on future smartbooks that may well have some sort of dual-mode swivel screen (which makes them useful as an e-reader).</sentencetext>
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	<title>meh</title>
	<author>Ephemeriis</author>
	<datestamp>1262711100000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>From the fine article:</p><blockquote><div><p>By focusing on the software, and not trying to maintain a hardware device, Kurzweil hopes to provide the most versatile, life-like electronic version of print books and enhance them with multimedia.</p></div></blockquote><p>The first problem with this approach is that there's no physical device.  Books are physical, portable objects.  This software may be wonderful and all, but it still lives in a computer.  I've read ebooks for literally years, and I was never happy with the computer-based ereader software.  I always preferred reading on something small and portable like a PDA than on my PC.  Laptops are better than a desktop PC, but still not as good as a book.  Netbooks are closer still, but not quite there.</p><p>So you've got a beautiful, life-like electronic version of a print book...  And it is stuck on your computer.  I'm not impressed.</p><p>The next problem is that he's trying to enhance the books with multimedia.</p><p>Anyone remember when CD-ROMs were just going mainstream?  Remember all the multimedia encyclopedias that were available?  Remember how cool it was to look up an article on something and be able to watch a video or hear a speech or something?  Yeah...  Notice how those have pretty much stopped being popular?</p><p>Sure, it might be handy to have good text-to-speech in an ereader...  And there are certainly some books that would benefit from a good dose of multimedia content...  But, for the most part, I don't think many books are going to benefit from any of this.</p><p>There is a reason why classes - even highly visual/interactive ones like science labs - require textbooks.  They can spell things out clearly and concisely, complete with diagrams and formula - which words and video can't accomplish as neatly.</p><p>There is a reason why I read books instead of going to the movies - well-written text and a healthy imagination can produce better visuals than anything in Hollywood.</p></div>
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<tokenext>From the fine article : By focusing on the software , and not trying to maintain a hardware device , Kurzweil hopes to provide the most versatile , life-like electronic version of print books and enhance them with multimedia.The first problem with this approach is that there 's no physical device .
Books are physical , portable objects .
This software may be wonderful and all , but it still lives in a computer .
I 've read ebooks for literally years , and I was never happy with the computer-based ereader software .
I always preferred reading on something small and portable like a PDA than on my PC .
Laptops are better than a desktop PC , but still not as good as a book .
Netbooks are closer still , but not quite there.So you 've got a beautiful , life-like electronic version of a print book... And it is stuck on your computer .
I 'm not impressed.The next problem is that he 's trying to enhance the books with multimedia.Anyone remember when CD-ROMs were just going mainstream ?
Remember all the multimedia encyclopedias that were available ?
Remember how cool it was to look up an article on something and be able to watch a video or hear a speech or something ?
Yeah... Notice how those have pretty much stopped being popular ? Sure , it might be handy to have good text-to-speech in an ereader... And there are certainly some books that would benefit from a good dose of multimedia content... But , for the most part , I do n't think many books are going to benefit from any of this.There is a reason why classes - even highly visual/interactive ones like science labs - require textbooks .
They can spell things out clearly and concisely , complete with diagrams and formula - which words and video ca n't accomplish as neatly.There is a reason why I read books instead of going to the movies - well-written text and a healthy imagination can produce better visuals than anything in Hollywood .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From the fine article:By focusing on the software, and not trying to maintain a hardware device, Kurzweil hopes to provide the most versatile, life-like electronic version of print books and enhance them with multimedia.The first problem with this approach is that there's no physical device.
Books are physical, portable objects.
This software may be wonderful and all, but it still lives in a computer.
I've read ebooks for literally years, and I was never happy with the computer-based ereader software.
I always preferred reading on something small and portable like a PDA than on my PC.
Laptops are better than a desktop PC, but still not as good as a book.
Netbooks are closer still, but not quite there.So you've got a beautiful, life-like electronic version of a print book...  And it is stuck on your computer.
I'm not impressed.The next problem is that he's trying to enhance the books with multimedia.Anyone remember when CD-ROMs were just going mainstream?
Remember all the multimedia encyclopedias that were available?
Remember how cool it was to look up an article on something and be able to watch a video or hear a speech or something?
Yeah...  Notice how those have pretty much stopped being popular?Sure, it might be handy to have good text-to-speech in an ereader...  And there are certainly some books that would benefit from a good dose of multimedia content...  But, for the most part, I don't think many books are going to benefit from any of this.There is a reason why classes - even highly visual/interactive ones like science labs - require textbooks.
They can spell things out clearly and concisely, complete with diagrams and formula - which words and video can't accomplish as neatly.There is a reason why I read books instead of going to the movies - well-written text and a healthy imagination can produce better visuals than anything in Hollywood.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30656804</id>
	<title>Re:Computer versus Kindle</title>
	<author>Profane MuthaFucka</author>
	<datestamp>1262714700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You know, when you turn a page in a book, you get the same kind of thing. A fraction of a second when you're not looking at any particular page. The brain starts to overlook that and you don't even notice it.</p><p>And my Kindle redraws the screen faster than I can turn a page.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You know , when you turn a page in a book , you get the same kind of thing .
A fraction of a second when you 're not looking at any particular page .
The brain starts to overlook that and you do n't even notice it.And my Kindle redraws the screen faster than I can turn a page .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You know, when you turn a page in a book, you get the same kind of thing.
A fraction of a second when you're not looking at any particular page.
The brain starts to overlook that and you don't even notice it.And my Kindle redraws the screen faster than I can turn a page.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30658536</id>
	<title>And yet there is</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262720760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>da Bing!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>da Bing !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>da Bing!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30655556</id>
	<title>Does Kurzweil get the idea of an e-Reader?</title>
	<author>oscarwumpus</author>
	<datestamp>1262710200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>For a guy that is supposed to be a step ahead tech-wise, apparently he doesn't understand that people want a portable device that is easy to read. A laptop/ iPhone/ iPod is not an easy-to-read from device* so creating a reader for those devices doesn't really get rid of the initial problem of having to use those devices. Who reads a book on an iPod or phone?! Seriously? Do you carry around one of those magnifying screens from "Brazil"?

*laptop...well, the problem is the back lighting and eye fatigue, not the screen size, necessarily.</htmltext>
<tokenext>For a guy that is supposed to be a step ahead tech-wise , apparently he does n't understand that people want a portable device that is easy to read .
A laptop/ iPhone/ iPod is not an easy-to-read from device * so creating a reader for those devices does n't really get rid of the initial problem of having to use those devices .
Who reads a book on an iPod or phone ? !
Seriously ? Do you carry around one of those magnifying screens from " Brazil " ?
* laptop...well , the problem is the back lighting and eye fatigue , not the screen size , necessarily .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For a guy that is supposed to be a step ahead tech-wise, apparently he doesn't understand that people want a portable device that is easy to read.
A laptop/ iPhone/ iPod is not an easy-to-read from device* so creating a reader for those devices doesn't really get rid of the initial problem of having to use those devices.
Who reads a book on an iPod or phone?!
Seriously? Do you carry around one of those magnifying screens from "Brazil"?
*laptop...well, the problem is the back lighting and eye fatigue, not the screen size, necessarily.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30658014</id>
	<title>It's not new...</title>
	<author>Senjutsu</author>
	<datestamp>1262718480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>but Blio is the only e-Reader designed with Singularity compatiblity in mind!<br> <br>Don't let your cyber-mind go unstimulated for kiloseconds when fragile, meat-popsicle designed e-Readers fail to survive the geek-rapture, buy a Blio today!</htmltext>
<tokenext>but Blio is the only e-Reader designed with Singularity compatiblity in mind !
Do n't let your cyber-mind go unstimulated for kiloseconds when fragile , meat-popsicle designed e-Readers fail to survive the geek-rapture , buy a Blio today !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>but Blio is the only e-Reader designed with Singularity compatiblity in mind!
Don't let your cyber-mind go unstimulated for kiloseconds when fragile, meat-popsicle designed e-Readers fail to survive the geek-rapture, buy a Blio today!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30655690</id>
	<title>And Best Of All</title>
	<author>DynaSoar</author>
	<datestamp>1262710680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>(as TFA says) BLIO is free. Seems logical since at this point it's a working concept. It's an idea (seems to be a good one) with no implementation as yet, but it's not quite vaporware because it's based on a working technology and product. Still, it's out there for anyone who wants to develop an e-reader for its own sake (a free reader), or to compete with other readers (another commercial product).</p><p>The bad news is "Blio will adopt some form of DRM and proprietary formatting". The good news is there probably won't be time for someone to out together a betting pool on how long it will take to crack said DRM, because by the time they're ready to take wagers it'll be done.</p><p>Of course this all depends on whether the singularity will happen, making this and other technology that's not, um, singularity compliant? obsolete. I suppose we can always watch RayKay's output, and when he stops releasing new stuff, assume he's packing his bags for the singularity. I doubt the bags will be full of the "I [heart] The Singularity" t-shirts he's selling. Time will tell whether he'll return and instead sell "I Went To The Singularity And All I Got Was This Lousy T-shirt" t-shirts. Along with some other nifty stuff, also hopefully for free.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>( as TFA says ) BLIO is free .
Seems logical since at this point it 's a working concept .
It 's an idea ( seems to be a good one ) with no implementation as yet , but it 's not quite vaporware because it 's based on a working technology and product .
Still , it 's out there for anyone who wants to develop an e-reader for its own sake ( a free reader ) , or to compete with other readers ( another commercial product ) .The bad news is " Blio will adopt some form of DRM and proprietary formatting " .
The good news is there probably wo n't be time for someone to out together a betting pool on how long it will take to crack said DRM , because by the time they 're ready to take wagers it 'll be done.Of course this all depends on whether the singularity will happen , making this and other technology that 's not , um , singularity compliant ?
obsolete. I suppose we can always watch RayKay 's output , and when he stops releasing new stuff , assume he 's packing his bags for the singularity .
I doubt the bags will be full of the " I [ heart ] The Singularity " t-shirts he 's selling .
Time will tell whether he 'll return and instead sell " I Went To The Singularity And All I Got Was This Lousy T-shirt " t-shirts .
Along with some other nifty stuff , also hopefully for free .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>(as TFA says) BLIO is free.
Seems logical since at this point it's a working concept.
It's an idea (seems to be a good one) with no implementation as yet, but it's not quite vaporware because it's based on a working technology and product.
Still, it's out there for anyone who wants to develop an e-reader for its own sake (a free reader), or to compete with other readers (another commercial product).The bad news is "Blio will adopt some form of DRM and proprietary formatting".
The good news is there probably won't be time for someone to out together a betting pool on how long it will take to crack said DRM, because by the time they're ready to take wagers it'll be done.Of course this all depends on whether the singularity will happen, making this and other technology that's not, um, singularity compliant?
obsolete. I suppose we can always watch RayKay's output, and when he stops releasing new stuff, assume he's packing his bags for the singularity.
I doubt the bags will be full of the "I [heart] The Singularity" t-shirts he's selling.
Time will tell whether he'll return and instead sell "I Went To The Singularity And All I Got Was This Lousy T-shirt" t-shirts.
Along with some other nifty stuff, also hopefully for free.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30659106</id>
	<title>Re:Does Kurzweil get the idea of an e-Reader?</title>
	<author>Cro Magnon</author>
	<datestamp>1262723280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Who reads a book on an iPod or phone?!</p></div> </blockquote><p>I do.  The Kindle is better than the iPhone, but my iPhone is much more portable.  I use the Kindle at home, or if I'm going on a long trip.  If I'm waiting for an oil change or for my GF to finish her shopping spree, I use the iPhone.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Who reads a book on an iPod or phone ? !
I do .
The Kindle is better than the iPhone , but my iPhone is much more portable .
I use the Kindle at home , or if I 'm going on a long trip .
If I 'm waiting for an oil change or for my GF to finish her shopping spree , I use the iPhone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who reads a book on an iPod or phone?!
I do.
The Kindle is better than the iPhone, but my iPhone is much more portable.
I use the Kindle at home, or if I'm going on a long trip.
If I'm waiting for an oil change or for my GF to finish her shopping spree, I use the iPhone.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30655384</id>
	<title>Re:Computer versus Kindle</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262709540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You're thinking CRT, LCDs are in this respect very similar to e-ink, they change only when you need them to change (i.e. there's no refresh while showing static images). There is a flicker if the backlight is fluorescent (as opposed to the new LED backlight present in many new notebooks and netbooks) but you get the same flicker if you look at anything (event a book) under fluorescent light (which most people tolerate quite well).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're thinking CRT , LCDs are in this respect very similar to e-ink , they change only when you need them to change ( i.e .
there 's no refresh while showing static images ) .
There is a flicker if the backlight is fluorescent ( as opposed to the new LED backlight present in many new notebooks and netbooks ) but you get the same flicker if you look at anything ( event a book ) under fluorescent light ( which most people tolerate quite well ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're thinking CRT, LCDs are in this respect very similar to e-ink, they change only when you need them to change (i.e.
there's no refresh while showing static images).
There is a flicker if the backlight is fluorescent (as opposed to the new LED backlight present in many new notebooks and netbooks) but you get the same flicker if you look at anything (event a book) under fluorescent light (which most people tolerate quite well).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30655910</id>
	<title>This is nothing special.</title>
	<author>dwiget001</author>
	<datestamp>1262711580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have been reading using "ABOOK" for many years now.</p><p>1. Long battery life, in fact, it is so advanced, that it doesn't even have "batteries", in the traditional sense.</p><p>2. Sure, you have to manipulate the "pages" by hand, but only when you need to turn the page.</p><p>3. Heck, I can even loan it to people or, if I am feeling very generous, I can just give "ABOOK" away, whether to friends, family members or the local library.</p><p>4.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p><p>5. PROFIT!!!!</p><p>"ABOOK" is a sure WEINNAR!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have been reading using " ABOOK " for many years now.1 .
Long battery life , in fact , it is so advanced , that it does n't even have " batteries " , in the traditional sense.2 .
Sure , you have to manipulate the " pages " by hand , but only when you need to turn the page.3 .
Heck , I can even loan it to people or , if I am feeling very generous , I can just give " ABOOK " away , whether to friends , family members or the local library.4 .
...5. PROFIT ! ! ! !
" ABOOK " is a sure WEINNAR !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have been reading using "ABOOK" for many years now.1.
Long battery life, in fact, it is so advanced, that it doesn't even have "batteries", in the traditional sense.2.
Sure, you have to manipulate the "pages" by hand, but only when you need to turn the page.3.
Heck, I can even loan it to people or, if I am feeling very generous, I can just give "ABOOK" away, whether to friends, family members or the local library.4.
...5. PROFIT!!!!
"ABOOK" is a sure WEINNAR!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30656738</id>
	<title>Re:meh</title>
	<author>maxume</author>
	<datestamp>1262714520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Cd-rom encyclopedias were replaced by fast enough internet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Cd-rom encyclopedias were replaced by fast enough internet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cd-rom encyclopedias were replaced by fast enough internet.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30657190</id>
	<title>And publishers respond...</title>
	<author>Theodore</author>
	<datestamp>1262715840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>With a copy-rape...<br>in 3..2..1..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>With a copy-rape...in 3..2..1. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With a copy-rape...in 3..2..1..</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30658068</id>
	<title>Re:Does Kurzweil get the idea of an e-Reader?</title>
	<author>MaskedSlacker</author>
	<datestamp>1262718780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He isn't a step ahead, he just makes a lot of self-serving noise and stupid/bored reporters report it.  Kurzweil is a snake oil salesman for the 21st century.  Nothing to see here.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He is n't a step ahead , he just makes a lot of self-serving noise and stupid/bored reporters report it .
Kurzweil is a snake oil salesman for the 21st century .
Nothing to see here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He isn't a step ahead, he just makes a lot of self-serving noise and stupid/bored reporters report it.
Kurzweil is a snake oil salesman for the 21st century.
Nothing to see here.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30655748</id>
	<title>Re:Does Kurzweil get the idea of an e-Reader?</title>
	<author>YourExperiment</author>
	<datestamp>1262710920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Horses for courses, my friend. Complain all you like about the size of a smartphone or the screen quality of a laptop, but I'm not going to carry around a dedicated piece of hardware just to read books on. I already have a smartphone that does the job almost as well right here in my pocket, and that's good enough for me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Horses for courses , my friend .
Complain all you like about the size of a smartphone or the screen quality of a laptop , but I 'm not going to carry around a dedicated piece of hardware just to read books on .
I already have a smartphone that does the job almost as well right here in my pocket , and that 's good enough for me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Horses for courses, my friend.
Complain all you like about the size of a smartphone or the screen quality of a laptop, but I'm not going to carry around a dedicated piece of hardware just to read books on.
I already have a smartphone that does the job almost as well right here in my pocket, and that's good enough for me.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30655308</id>
	<title>One standard</title>
	<author>Enderandrew</author>
	<datestamp>1262709240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There are 50 million e-book formats and standards. What appeals to me about Kindle or Nook is that it is backed by a huge retailer. I feel fairly confident that if I buy a book from them, I can access it in the future. I know they will have a huge library of titles in their format. I feel strongly that they stand a chance to become the dominant standard. Kindle is opening themselves up to other devices and resellers. My wife has been buying books via the Kindle app on her iPhone.</p><p>Would I prefer a nice open standard with no DRM? Certainly. Will retailers ever support that? No.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There are 50 million e-book formats and standards .
What appeals to me about Kindle or Nook is that it is backed by a huge retailer .
I feel fairly confident that if I buy a book from them , I can access it in the future .
I know they will have a huge library of titles in their format .
I feel strongly that they stand a chance to become the dominant standard .
Kindle is opening themselves up to other devices and resellers .
My wife has been buying books via the Kindle app on her iPhone.Would I prefer a nice open standard with no DRM ?
Certainly. Will retailers ever support that ?
No .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are 50 million e-book formats and standards.
What appeals to me about Kindle or Nook is that it is backed by a huge retailer.
I feel fairly confident that if I buy a book from them, I can access it in the future.
I know they will have a huge library of titles in their format.
I feel strongly that they stand a chance to become the dominant standard.
Kindle is opening themselves up to other devices and resellers.
My wife has been buying books via the Kindle app on her iPhone.Would I prefer a nice open standard with no DRM?
Certainly. Will retailers ever support that?
No.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30658310</id>
	<title>Re:One standard</title>
	<author>hey!</author>
	<datestamp>1262719800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The whole ASCII only thing was one of the most brain dead decisions the Gutenberg ever made.</p><p>Many books go through the ASCII lobotomy relatively unscathed, of course, but there's lots of things ASCII just can't do.  That's not just peripheral things like italics, boldface or underline. I'm talking about things you absolutely need to represent what is being said.  It's foreign scripts like Greek. It's mathematical symbols -- no classic math books for Gutenberg. It's currency symbols other than '$'. It's common typographic symbols that didn't make the cut back in 1963 when they only had 128 code points and the main concern was driving low res dot matrix printers writing on 14" greenbar.</p><p>Basically Michael Hart conflated "non-ASCII" with proprietary document formats like WordPerfect.  ASCII is literally incapable of representing the *information* in a wide variety of books without the adoption of some kind of ad hoc encoding scheme.  That's in fact what a lot of Gutenberg texts do, which means they're somewhat unintelligible, which is the exact opposite of the policy's intent.</p><p>To be fair, PG came almost twenty years before Unicode. But the only reasonable solution would be to specify a simple file format that would have the following properties:</p><p>(1) If printed as 7 bit ASCII, most texts would be intelligible.</p><p>(2) Has a standard extension mechanism for specifying symbols, the way XML has character entities.</p><p>(3) Has standard representations for common typographic effects like boldface or document structure like footnotes.</p><p>It's not that hard to do, you just can't have 100\% of everything. Maximizing the prettiness of ASCII printouts is not consistent with maximizing the intelligibility of documents.  So you make the documents as intelligible as possible, and then as pretty as possible consistent with that.</p><p>Restructured Text does a pretty good job of representing a number of document structures and markup features found in HTML, while retaining a plain text representation that looks like what it means.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The whole ASCII only thing was one of the most brain dead decisions the Gutenberg ever made.Many books go through the ASCII lobotomy relatively unscathed , of course , but there 's lots of things ASCII just ca n't do .
That 's not just peripheral things like italics , boldface or underline .
I 'm talking about things you absolutely need to represent what is being said .
It 's foreign scripts like Greek .
It 's mathematical symbols -- no classic math books for Gutenberg .
It 's currency symbols other than ' $ ' .
It 's common typographic symbols that did n't make the cut back in 1963 when they only had 128 code points and the main concern was driving low res dot matrix printers writing on 14 " greenbar.Basically Michael Hart conflated " non-ASCII " with proprietary document formats like WordPerfect .
ASCII is literally incapable of representing the * information * in a wide variety of books without the adoption of some kind of ad hoc encoding scheme .
That 's in fact what a lot of Gutenberg texts do , which means they 're somewhat unintelligible , which is the exact opposite of the policy 's intent.To be fair , PG came almost twenty years before Unicode .
But the only reasonable solution would be to specify a simple file format that would have the following properties : ( 1 ) If printed as 7 bit ASCII , most texts would be intelligible .
( 2 ) Has a standard extension mechanism for specifying symbols , the way XML has character entities .
( 3 ) Has standard representations for common typographic effects like boldface or document structure like footnotes.It 's not that hard to do , you just ca n't have 100 \ % of everything .
Maximizing the prettiness of ASCII printouts is not consistent with maximizing the intelligibility of documents .
So you make the documents as intelligible as possible , and then as pretty as possible consistent with that.Restructured Text does a pretty good job of representing a number of document structures and markup features found in HTML , while retaining a plain text representation that looks like what it means .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The whole ASCII only thing was one of the most brain dead decisions the Gutenberg ever made.Many books go through the ASCII lobotomy relatively unscathed, of course, but there's lots of things ASCII just can't do.
That's not just peripheral things like italics, boldface or underline.
I'm talking about things you absolutely need to represent what is being said.
It's foreign scripts like Greek.
It's mathematical symbols -- no classic math books for Gutenberg.
It's currency symbols other than '$'.
It's common typographic symbols that didn't make the cut back in 1963 when they only had 128 code points and the main concern was driving low res dot matrix printers writing on 14" greenbar.Basically Michael Hart conflated "non-ASCII" with proprietary document formats like WordPerfect.
ASCII is literally incapable of representing the *information* in a wide variety of books without the adoption of some kind of ad hoc encoding scheme.
That's in fact what a lot of Gutenberg texts do, which means they're somewhat unintelligible, which is the exact opposite of the policy's intent.To be fair, PG came almost twenty years before Unicode.
But the only reasonable solution would be to specify a simple file format that would have the following properties:(1) If printed as 7 bit ASCII, most texts would be intelligible.
(2) Has a standard extension mechanism for specifying symbols, the way XML has character entities.
(3) Has standard representations for common typographic effects like boldface or document structure like footnotes.It's not that hard to do, you just can't have 100\% of everything.
Maximizing the prettiness of ASCII printouts is not consistent with maximizing the intelligibility of documents.
So you make the documents as intelligible as possible, and then as pretty as possible consistent with that.Restructured Text does a pretty good job of representing a number of document structures and markup features found in HTML, while retaining a plain text representation that looks like what it means.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30655942</id>
	<title>Stupid names</title>
	<author>Foolicious</author>
	<datestamp>1262711640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why do all these products have such stupid names?  Brio, Treo, Kindle, Nano, Vaio, blah blah blah.  It's like there's a council somewhere that approves product names based only on how gadgety and futuristic they sound, but under the assumption that in the future product names will only end with vowel sounds.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why do all these products have such stupid names ?
Brio , Treo , Kindle , Nano , Vaio , blah blah blah .
It 's like there 's a council somewhere that approves product names based only on how gadgety and futuristic they sound , but under the assumption that in the future product names will only end with vowel sounds .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why do all these products have such stupid names?
Brio, Treo, Kindle, Nano, Vaio, blah blah blah.
It's like there's a council somewhere that approves product names based only on how gadgety and futuristic they sound, but under the assumption that in the future product names will only end with vowel sounds.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30655760</id>
	<title>Re:One standard</title>
	<author>jedidiah</author>
	<datestamp>1262710980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's BOOKS. The only format you ultimately need to support is ASCII. Perhaps you need to support something a little more fancy like PDF.</p><p>Whether or not a jerk like Ellison will buy into the format is entirely separate from how dominant Amazon is.</p><p>Really. The first question to ask is "what will it do with my ancient copy of the Gutenberg Project"? Then ask "what will it do with these corporate docs in RTF and PDF?". Then go from there? How will it handle the Baen electronic library?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's BOOKS .
The only format you ultimately need to support is ASCII .
Perhaps you need to support something a little more fancy like PDF.Whether or not a jerk like Ellison will buy into the format is entirely separate from how dominant Amazon is.Really .
The first question to ask is " what will it do with my ancient copy of the Gutenberg Project " ?
Then ask " what will it do with these corporate docs in RTF and PDF ? " .
Then go from there ?
How will it handle the Baen electronic library ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's BOOKS.
The only format you ultimately need to support is ASCII.
Perhaps you need to support something a little more fancy like PDF.Whether or not a jerk like Ellison will buy into the format is entirely separate from how dominant Amazon is.Really.
The first question to ask is "what will it do with my ancient copy of the Gutenberg Project"?
Then ask "what will it do with these corporate docs in RTF and PDF?".
Then go from there?
How will it handle the Baen electronic library?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30662000</id>
	<title>Re:PDF?</title>
	<author>Jesus\_666</author>
	<datestamp>1262691780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Except that this "Blio" format touts as its big advantage that the pages look exactly like in the real book. You can't reliably do that with reflowing. So yes, this new format sounds exactly like PDF or PostScript.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Except that this " Blio " format touts as its big advantage that the pages look exactly like in the real book .
You ca n't reliably do that with reflowing .
So yes , this new format sounds exactly like PDF or PostScript .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Except that this "Blio" format touts as its big advantage that the pages look exactly like in the real book.
You can't reliably do that with reflowing.
So yes, this new format sounds exactly like PDF or PostScript.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30656678</id>
	<title>Re:UTTERLY PATHETIC</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262714280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What are you on about? He's not making a device, it's software you fool. Durrr.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What are you on about ?
He 's not making a device , it 's software you fool .
Durrr .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What are you on about?
He's not making a device, it's software you fool.
Durrr.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30658070</id>
	<title>Re:Does Kurzweil get the idea of an e-Reader?</title>
	<author>ceoyoyo</author>
	<datestamp>1262718780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Lots of people.  I used to read a lot of books on my Sony Clie, which had a similar sized (but not nearly as good) screen to the iPhone.  I've got several reference books on my iPhone that I might not read cover to cover, but are very handy to refer to.  The problem is, most books are difficult to format for the phone.  The built in PDF reader has trouble zooming in on columns properly, for example.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Lots of people .
I used to read a lot of books on my Sony Clie , which had a similar sized ( but not nearly as good ) screen to the iPhone .
I 've got several reference books on my iPhone that I might not read cover to cover , but are very handy to refer to .
The problem is , most books are difficult to format for the phone .
The built in PDF reader has trouble zooming in on columns properly , for example .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lots of people.
I used to read a lot of books on my Sony Clie, which had a similar sized (but not nearly as good) screen to the iPhone.
I've got several reference books on my iPhone that I might not read cover to cover, but are very handy to refer to.
The problem is, most books are difficult to format for the phone.
The built in PDF reader has trouble zooming in on columns properly, for example.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30656240</id>
	<title>formats and speed</title>
	<author>e**(i pi)-1</author>
	<datestamp>1262712720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The biggest challenge today with electronic texts is that page build needs to
be fast. PDF does not perform well. DJVU texts perform much better, are smaller
in general and can be read more comfortablly. An ebook reader should be able to read
both formats comfortably. Browsing through a book should be fast. I don't see the
need for a new format. Give me a reader which can read PDF and DJVU with a decent
resolution and page build speed and I'm sold. It is definitely also a software issue
because on my Ipod Touch, I can read PDFs
more comfortably than with the acrobat hog on the desktop. The Blio looks like a step
in the right direction (no OSX nor linux support however for now and I do not
see it on the app store neither for the iphone).</htmltext>
<tokenext>The biggest challenge today with electronic texts is that page build needs to be fast .
PDF does not perform well .
DJVU texts perform much better , are smaller in general and can be read more comfortablly .
An ebook reader should be able to read both formats comfortably .
Browsing through a book should be fast .
I do n't see the need for a new format .
Give me a reader which can read PDF and DJVU with a decent resolution and page build speed and I 'm sold .
It is definitely also a software issue because on my Ipod Touch , I can read PDFs more comfortably than with the acrobat hog on the desktop .
The Blio looks like a step in the right direction ( no OSX nor linux support however for now and I do not see it on the app store neither for the iphone ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The biggest challenge today with electronic texts is that page build needs to
be fast.
PDF does not perform well.
DJVU texts perform much better, are smaller
in general and can be read more comfortablly.
An ebook reader should be able to read
both formats comfortably.
Browsing through a book should be fast.
I don't see the
need for a new format.
Give me a reader which can read PDF and DJVU with a decent
resolution and page build speed and I'm sold.
It is definitely also a software issue
because on my Ipod Touch, I can read PDFs
more comfortably than with the acrobat hog on the desktop.
The Blio looks like a step
in the right direction (no OSX nor linux support however for now and I do not
see it on the app store neither for the iphone).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30656992</id>
	<title>Re:One standard</title>
	<author>Enderandrew</author>
	<datestamp>1262715180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As someone else posted, they ended up keeing the DRM servers online.</p><p>If the retailer stays in business, and shuts the DRM servers down, they are legally required to refund your purchase, which means you got an extended rental for free.</p><p>Again, I prefer a DRM-free model. But I'm not all that worried about losing purchases via Amazon. They're one of the few companies in this country that just continue to grow, despite the recession.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As someone else posted , they ended up keeing the DRM servers online.If the retailer stays in business , and shuts the DRM servers down , they are legally required to refund your purchase , which means you got an extended rental for free.Again , I prefer a DRM-free model .
But I 'm not all that worried about losing purchases via Amazon .
They 're one of the few companies in this country that just continue to grow , despite the recession .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As someone else posted, they ended up keeing the DRM servers online.If the retailer stays in business, and shuts the DRM servers down, they are legally required to refund your purchase, which means you got an extended rental for free.Again, I prefer a DRM-free model.
But I'm not all that worried about losing purchases via Amazon.
They're one of the few companies in this country that just continue to grow, despite the recession.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30660164</id>
	<title>Re:Um, that's great and all...</title>
	<author>Trepidity</author>
	<datestamp>1262684520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Kurzweil's already uploaded himself to a computer, so from his perspective, software is all you need!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Kurzweil 's already uploaded himself to a computer , so from his perspective , software is all you need !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Kurzweil's already uploaded himself to a computer, so from his perspective, software is all you need!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30656590</id>
	<title>Re:Computer versus Kindle</title>
	<author>sznupi</author>
	<datestamp>1262714040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr></p><div class="quote"><p>...<br>I just recently picked up a nook and I have to say it is the easiest screen to read on so far. Much easier on the eyes.</p><p>I can read for hours and hours with no more eyestrain than if I was reading a paper book. The e-ink display is definitely superior to any CRT or LCD I've ever read for long periods of time. My only complaint is that there's no backlight or anything... It would have been nice if they'd embedded a little LED somewhere on the thing, so I could read in low-light conditions easier.</p></div><p>One of the reasons it's so easy on the eyes is specifically because it <i>doesn't</i> have a backlight. Our eyes get tired less if there's not much brightness differences in the environment.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>...I just recently picked up a nook and I have to say it is the easiest screen to read on so far .
Much easier on the eyes.I can read for hours and hours with no more eyestrain than if I was reading a paper book .
The e-ink display is definitely superior to any CRT or LCD I 've ever read for long periods of time .
My only complaint is that there 's no backlight or anything... It would have been nice if they 'd embedded a little LED somewhere on the thing , so I could read in low-light conditions easier.One of the reasons it 's so easy on the eyes is specifically because it does n't have a backlight .
Our eyes get tired less if there 's not much brightness differences in the environment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> ...I just recently picked up a nook and I have to say it is the easiest screen to read on so far.
Much easier on the eyes.I can read for hours and hours with no more eyestrain than if I was reading a paper book.
The e-ink display is definitely superior to any CRT or LCD I've ever read for long periods of time.
My only complaint is that there's no backlight or anything... It would have been nice if they'd embedded a little LED somewhere on the thing, so I could read in low-light conditions easier.One of the reasons it's so easy on the eyes is specifically because it doesn't have a backlight.
Our eyes get tired less if there's not much brightness differences in the environment.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30655232</id>
	<title>Computer versus Kindle</title>
	<author>jimbobborg</author>
	<datestamp>1262708880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My Brother-in-Law has a Kindle.  The main reason he uses it is it's a lot easier to read text on the Kindle's LCD than on a computer LCD as there is no refresh rate on the Kindle.  The screen refreshes only when you turn a page, which makes it easier on the eyes than a 60Hz computer LCD display.</p><p>Also, Blio on PC, Mac, iPhone and iPod touch, but no Linux?  WTF?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My Brother-in-Law has a Kindle .
The main reason he uses it is it 's a lot easier to read text on the Kindle 's LCD than on a computer LCD as there is no refresh rate on the Kindle .
The screen refreshes only when you turn a page , which makes it easier on the eyes than a 60Hz computer LCD display.Also , Blio on PC , Mac , iPhone and iPod touch , but no Linux ?
WTF ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My Brother-in-Law has a Kindle.
The main reason he uses it is it's a lot easier to read text on the Kindle's LCD than on a computer LCD as there is no refresh rate on the Kindle.
The screen refreshes only when you turn a page, which makes it easier on the eyes than a 60Hz computer LCD display.Also, Blio on PC, Mac, iPhone and iPod touch, but no Linux?
WTF?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30721474</id>
	<title>Re:This is nothing special.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1263212640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>2. Sure, you have to manipulate the "pages" by hand, but only when you need to turn the page.</p></div><p>You put that as a disadvantage, however this device you mention is so advanced that has a very advanced haptic technology!</p><p>The only problem I see is in the device size.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>2 .
Sure , you have to manipulate the " pages " by hand , but only when you need to turn the page.You put that as a disadvantage , however this device you mention is so advanced that has a very advanced haptic technology ! The only problem I see is in the device size .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>2.
Sure, you have to manipulate the "pages" by hand, but only when you need to turn the page.You put that as a disadvantage, however this device you mention is so advanced that has a very advanced haptic technology!The only problem I see is in the device size.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30662442</id>
	<title>Re:Is this new?</title>
	<author>TheCouchPotatoFamine</author>
	<datestamp>1262694000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You are being completely cynical. The ideal book reader in my mind is an lcd and a stick of ram with two buttons, that costs much, much less then a mid-end calculator! come on, text memory is CHEAP.

There a complete lack of ubiquity about our digital reading revolution. It's all highend do everything gadget that break when they get wet. Maybe the IronMan triathlon wristwatch company would like to give an ebook reader a go; i'd buy that for 39.00, no DRM (reads text) and is usb-FAT mountable. Make it glow and be waterproof to a hundred feet - all cheap - and THAT'S a nerds tool.

Seeing kurzweil in this game just makes me really hope he brings some common sense</htmltext>
<tokenext>You are being completely cynical .
The ideal book reader in my mind is an lcd and a stick of ram with two buttons , that costs much , much less then a mid-end calculator !
come on , text memory is CHEAP .
There a complete lack of ubiquity about our digital reading revolution .
It 's all highend do everything gadget that break when they get wet .
Maybe the IronMan triathlon wristwatch company would like to give an ebook reader a go ; i 'd buy that for 39.00 , no DRM ( reads text ) and is usb-FAT mountable .
Make it glow and be waterproof to a hundred feet - all cheap - and THAT 'S a nerds tool .
Seeing kurzweil in this game just makes me really hope he brings some common sense</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You are being completely cynical.
The ideal book reader in my mind is an lcd and a stick of ram with two buttons, that costs much, much less then a mid-end calculator!
come on, text memory is CHEAP.
There a complete lack of ubiquity about our digital reading revolution.
It's all highend do everything gadget that break when they get wet.
Maybe the IronMan triathlon wristwatch company would like to give an ebook reader a go; i'd buy that for 39.00, no DRM (reads text) and is usb-FAT mountable.
Make it glow and be waterproof to a hundred feet - all cheap - and THAT'S a nerds tool.
Seeing kurzweil in this game just makes me really hope he brings some common sense</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30666512</id>
	<title>Re:Computer versus Kindle</title>
	<author>LandGator</author>
	<datestamp>1262808480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ditto. I bought my first e-book from <a href="http://www.webscriptions.net/" title="webscriptions.net">Baen.com</a> [webscriptions.net] in <b>1998</b> to read on a Palm VII (monochrome); since then, I've used a VIIx, i705, T3, T5, TX, Nokia 9300, 9300i and E90 smartphones, plus about a dozen laptops with Win 2K-XP-Vista-7 and Ubuntu Hardy-Intrepid-Jaunty-Karmic.  Baen made it easy with the <a href="http://www.baen.com/library" title="baen.com">Baen Free Library</a> [baen.com]; the first six dozen e-books, are free, little boy (he he he). </p><p>Maybeso a Nook be better, but I *always* have my smartphone with me, and spending $500 on a reader equates to buying 105 e-books.</p><p>Plus, e-books have probably saved me from scoliosis, as I no longer have to carry a dead tree book in my hip pocket to have something to read wherever I am.</p><p>And, what is this DRM of which you speak? Baen doesn't cripple its e-books, and every time I change platforms, I can redownload my e-library in the new format. For free.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ditto .
I bought my first e-book from Baen.com [ webscriptions.net ] in 1998 to read on a Palm VII ( monochrome ) ; since then , I 've used a VIIx , i705 , T3 , T5 , TX , Nokia 9300 , 9300i and E90 smartphones , plus about a dozen laptops with Win 2K-XP-Vista-7 and Ubuntu Hardy-Intrepid-Jaunty-Karmic .
Baen made it easy with the Baen Free Library [ baen.com ] ; the first six dozen e-books , are free , little boy ( he he he ) .
Maybeso a Nook be better , but I * always * have my smartphone with me , and spending $ 500 on a reader equates to buying 105 e-books.Plus , e-books have probably saved me from scoliosis , as I no longer have to carry a dead tree book in my hip pocket to have something to read wherever I am.And , what is this DRM of which you speak ?
Baen does n't cripple its e-books , and every time I change platforms , I can redownload my e-library in the new format .
For free .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ditto.
I bought my first e-book from Baen.com [webscriptions.net] in 1998 to read on a Palm VII (monochrome); since then, I've used a VIIx, i705, T3, T5, TX, Nokia 9300, 9300i and E90 smartphones, plus about a dozen laptops with Win 2K-XP-Vista-7 and Ubuntu Hardy-Intrepid-Jaunty-Karmic.
Baen made it easy with the Baen Free Library [baen.com]; the first six dozen e-books, are free, little boy (he he he).
Maybeso a Nook be better, but I *always* have my smartphone with me, and spending $500 on a reader equates to buying 105 e-books.Plus, e-books have probably saved me from scoliosis, as I no longer have to carry a dead tree book in my hip pocket to have something to read wherever I am.And, what is this DRM of which you speak?
Baen doesn't cripple its e-books, and every time I change platforms, I can redownload my e-library in the new format.
For free.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30656712</id>
	<title>Re:Does Kurzweil get the idea of an e-Reader?</title>
	<author>sznupi</author>
	<datestamp>1262714460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oh my, the times are changing too fast for me, it seems. I can easily carry in my bag at least one piece of hardware for reading text. In the form of analogue book.</p><p>And I've heard those e-book readers are actually smaller. And can hold much more than one volume.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh my , the times are changing too fast for me , it seems .
I can easily carry in my bag at least one piece of hardware for reading text .
In the form of analogue book.And I 've heard those e-book readers are actually smaller .
And can hold much more than one volume .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh my, the times are changing too fast for me, it seems.
I can easily carry in my bag at least one piece of hardware for reading text.
In the form of analogue book.And I've heard those e-book readers are actually smaller.
And can hold much more than one volume.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30655586</id>
	<title>Re:Computer versus Kindle</title>
	<author>Kapsar</author>
	<datestamp>1262710320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The Kindle's not really an LCD in the technical meaning.  It doesn't have a back light which makes it much easier to read.  There's no eye strain and it's very similar to reading a book.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Kindle 's not really an LCD in the technical meaning .
It does n't have a back light which makes it much easier to read .
There 's no eye strain and it 's very similar to reading a book .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Kindle's not really an LCD in the technical meaning.
It doesn't have a back light which makes it much easier to read.
There's no eye strain and it's very similar to reading a book.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30655372</id>
	<title>Not new</title>
	<author>Shikaku</author>
	<datestamp>1262709480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Miss Blio wants to give you your future.  Call me now for a free reading!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Miss Blio wants to give you your future .
Call me now for a free reading !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Miss Blio wants to give you your future.
Call me now for a free reading!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30656726</id>
	<title>Re:One standard</title>
	<author>BJ\_Covert\_Action</author>
	<datestamp>1262714460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Would I prefer a nice open standard with no DRM? Certainly. Will retailers ever support that? No.</p></div><p>
Until Google gets into the eReader business of course....well, then we will at least get a pseudo-open standard...or something.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Would I prefer a nice open standard with no DRM ?
Certainly. Will retailers ever support that ?
No . Until Google gets into the eReader business of course....well , then we will at least get a pseudo-open standard...or something .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Would I prefer a nice open standard with no DRM?
Certainly. Will retailers ever support that?
No.
Until Google gets into the eReader business of course....well, then we will at least get a pseudo-open standard...or something.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30656538</id>
	<title>Re:Computer versus Kindle</title>
	<author>Cro Magnon</author>
	<datestamp>1262713860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't know about the sony product, but the Kindle was adequate.  Obviously, it's far too slow for internet browsing, but good enough for turning static pages.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't know about the sony product , but the Kindle was adequate .
Obviously , it 's far too slow for internet browsing , but good enough for turning static pages .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't know about the sony product, but the Kindle was adequate.
Obviously, it's far too slow for internet browsing, but good enough for turning static pages.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30657370</id>
	<title>Re:formats and speed</title>
	<author>Homburg</author>
	<datestamp>1262716440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><em>The biggest challenge today with electronic texts is that page build needs to be fast. PDF does not perform well</em></p><p>I'm really not sure what you're talking about. Moving from one page to the next in a PDF takes no perceptible time at all.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The biggest challenge today with electronic texts is that page build needs to be fast .
PDF does not perform wellI 'm really not sure what you 're talking about .
Moving from one page to the next in a PDF takes no perceptible time at all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The biggest challenge today with electronic texts is that page build needs to be fast.
PDF does not perform wellI'm really not sure what you're talking about.
Moving from one page to the next in a PDF takes no perceptible time at all.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30655824</id>
	<title>Do not want</title>
	<author>Spazmania</author>
	<datestamp>1262711160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><em>preserves the original format of books</em></p><p>That's precisely what I don't want. A screen is not a page of paper and a window on a screen is very definitely not a page. I want the e-book to reformat itself to fit my current viewing preferences which, by the way, will change from device to device, will change depending on lighting and may even change for no reason at all.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>preserves the original format of booksThat 's precisely what I do n't want .
A screen is not a page of paper and a window on a screen is very definitely not a page .
I want the e-book to reformat itself to fit my current viewing preferences which , by the way , will change from device to device , will change depending on lighting and may even change for no reason at all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>preserves the original format of booksThat's precisely what I don't want.
A screen is not a page of paper and a window on a screen is very definitely not a page.
I want the e-book to reformat itself to fit my current viewing preferences which, by the way, will change from device to device, will change depending on lighting and may even change for no reason at all.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30655576</id>
	<title>Re:Computer versus Kindle</title>
	<author>vlm</author>
	<datestamp>1262710260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>as there is no refresh rate on the Kindle.</p></div><p>Oh, theres a refresh "rate" alright, its about two seconds aka about zero point five Hz.  That's why I specifically purchased a LCD based ebook reader.</p><p>I got to try a sony eink product, it was so slow, the first time I tried to change pages I had enough time to think it had crashed, or perhaps it was a static demo page that can't change, and the next couple times I switched pages I thought it was about to crash, memory leak slowing it to a crawl or the battery was nearly dead or something.  I intellectually knew the UI was horribly slow, but I hadn't internalized it as possibly being the slowest UI I'd ever used.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>as there is no refresh rate on the Kindle.Oh , theres a refresh " rate " alright , its about two seconds aka about zero point five Hz .
That 's why I specifically purchased a LCD based ebook reader.I got to try a sony eink product , it was so slow , the first time I tried to change pages I had enough time to think it had crashed , or perhaps it was a static demo page that ca n't change , and the next couple times I switched pages I thought it was about to crash , memory leak slowing it to a crawl or the battery was nearly dead or something .
I intellectually knew the UI was horribly slow , but I had n't internalized it as possibly being the slowest UI I 'd ever used .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>as there is no refresh rate on the Kindle.Oh, theres a refresh "rate" alright, its about two seconds aka about zero point five Hz.
That's why I specifically purchased a LCD based ebook reader.I got to try a sony eink product, it was so slow, the first time I tried to change pages I had enough time to think it had crashed, or perhaps it was a static demo page that can't change, and the next couple times I switched pages I thought it was about to crash, memory leak slowing it to a crawl or the battery was nearly dead or something.
I intellectually knew the UI was horribly slow, but I hadn't internalized it as possibly being the slowest UI I'd ever used.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30656838</id>
	<title>e4b!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262714760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>benefits of beiH8g</htmltext>
<tokenext>benefits of beiH8g</tokentext>
<sentencetext>benefits of beiH8g</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30656800</id>
	<title>Hype from the hype-master</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262714700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A grain of salt on the source of this info, please: singularityhub.com is part of Kurzweil's extensive publicity machine. The article is written as if by a neutral third party, but it's all just more of the same breathless hype from a self-promoter par excellance. Why do they pretend to be objective? Sad. Transparent.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A grain of salt on the source of this info , please : singularityhub.com is part of Kurzweil 's extensive publicity machine .
The article is written as if by a neutral third party , but it 's all just more of the same breathless hype from a self-promoter par excellance .
Why do they pretend to be objective ?
Sad. Transparent .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A grain of salt on the source of this info, please: singularityhub.com is part of Kurzweil's extensive publicity machine.
The article is written as if by a neutral third party, but it's all just more of the same breathless hype from a self-promoter par excellance.
Why do they pretend to be objective?
Sad. Transparent.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30656528</id>
	<title>Re:Stupid names</title>
	<author>tehcyder</author>
	<datestamp>1262713800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Why do all these products have such stupid names? Brio, Treo, Kindle, Nano, Vaio, blah blah blah. It's like there's a council somewhere that approves product names based only on how gadgety and futuristic they sound, but under the assumption that in the future product names will only end with vowel sounds.</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
As opposed to the Apple design council where all product names will only begin with a vowel, and only one particular vowel at that.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why do all these products have such stupid names ?
Brio , Treo , Kindle , Nano , Vaio , blah blah blah .
It 's like there 's a council somewhere that approves product names based only on how gadgety and futuristic they sound , but under the assumption that in the future product names will only end with vowel sounds .
As opposed to the Apple design council where all product names will only begin with a vowel , and only one particular vowel at that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why do all these products have such stupid names?
Brio, Treo, Kindle, Nano, Vaio, blah blah blah.
It's like there's a council somewhere that approves product names based only on how gadgety and futuristic they sound, but under the assumption that in the future product names will only end with vowel sounds.
As opposed to the Apple design council where all product names will only begin with a vowel, and only one particular vowel at that.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30666628</id>
	<title>Re:Computer versus Kindle</title>
	<author>epine</author>
	<datestamp>1262809740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Our eyes get tired less if there's not much brightness differences in the environment.</p></div></blockquote><p>This must be why I keep a small halogen lamp on my desk.  When the lamp is turned on (even during the daylight hours) I rarely get eye strain.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Our eyes get tired less if there 's not much brightness differences in the environment.This must be why I keep a small halogen lamp on my desk .
When the lamp is turned on ( even during the daylight hours ) I rarely get eye strain .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Our eyes get tired less if there's not much brightness differences in the environment.This must be why I keep a small halogen lamp on my desk.
When the lamp is turned on (even during the daylight hours) I rarely get eye strain.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30655796</id>
	<title>Sounds like a browser to me</title>
	<author>marcus</author>
	<datestamp>1262711040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Firefox renders html ebooks just fine. It even does color, various fonts and sizes, a variety of pic formats, video, and even supports bookmarks too!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Firefox renders html ebooks just fine .
It even does color , various fonts and sizes , a variety of pic formats , video , and even supports bookmarks too !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Firefox renders html ebooks just fine.
It even does color, various fonts and sizes, a variety of pic formats, video, and even supports bookmarks too!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30657080</id>
	<title>Re:Great Idea shame it will fail though</title>
	<author>AmigaHeretic</author>
	<datestamp>1262715480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>&gt;&gt;There are patents on reading a text already.<br> <br>
This sounds so odd.  A patent for reading text on a COMPUTER of all things.
<br> <br>
Odd but surely true.</htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; &gt; There are patents on reading a text already .
This sounds so odd .
A patent for reading text on a COMPUTER of all things .
Odd but surely true .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;&gt;There are patents on reading a text already.
This sounds so odd.
A patent for reading text on a COMPUTER of all things.
Odd but surely true.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30655254</id>
	<title>Great Idea shame it will fail though</title>
	<author>RotateLeftByte</author>
	<datestamp>1262709000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why fail?<br>
&nbsp; As is runs on a conventional PC the DRM will be hacks in hours if not days s othe publishers will pull their titles.<br>Then the patent tolls will fire up their pencils and sue this into oblivion. There are patents on reading a text already. I'm sure that every toll and their dogs will be out in force to get a bit of their action on this.</p><p>Sorry for being so negative but I feel sure that there are just too many vested interests to let this succeed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why fail ?
  As is runs on a conventional PC the DRM will be hacks in hours if not days s othe publishers will pull their titles.Then the patent tolls will fire up their pencils and sue this into oblivion .
There are patents on reading a text already .
I 'm sure that every toll and their dogs will be out in force to get a bit of their action on this.Sorry for being so negative but I feel sure that there are just too many vested interests to let this succeed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why fail?
  As is runs on a conventional PC the DRM will be hacks in hours if not days s othe publishers will pull their titles.Then the patent tolls will fire up their pencils and sue this into oblivion.
There are patents on reading a text already.
I'm sure that every toll and their dogs will be out in force to get a bit of their action on this.Sorry for being so negative but I feel sure that there are just too many vested interests to let this succeed.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30656968</id>
	<title>Re:Does Kurzweil get the idea of an e-Reader?</title>
	<author>C10H14N2</author>
	<datestamp>1262715120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Who reads a book on an iPod or phone?! Seriously?</i></p><p>Me. Daily.</p><p><i>Do you carry around one of those magnifying screens from "Brazil"?</i></p><p>No. Stanza and Kindle for iPhone have a variable font-size that is perfectly sufficient to approximate or best that of an average paperback.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Who reads a book on an iPod or phone ? !
Seriously ? Me. Daily.Do you carry around one of those magnifying screens from " Brazil " ? No .
Stanza and Kindle for iPhone have a variable font-size that is perfectly sufficient to approximate or best that of an average paperback .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who reads a book on an iPod or phone?!
Seriously?Me. Daily.Do you carry around one of those magnifying screens from "Brazil"?No.
Stanza and Kindle for iPhone have a variable font-size that is perfectly sufficient to approximate or best that of an average paperback.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30656452</id>
	<title>Re:Computer versus Kindle</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262713500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>God, you must have the worst case of ADD in history.  Do you turn pages in a book and have enough time to think maybe your arm is broken because it took so long? Because that's about how long it takes, a normal page turn.</p><p>Even the old ones (I have a prs-500) only take a half second to turn the page, unless you are doing something funky like custom fonts and stuff like that.  If yours was taking longer than that then you were probably using an oddly formatted book, or perhaps a pdf and the particular model you were using wasn't so great at them.  The new ones I know are faster, I've seen them.  In any case I've read a half dozen books on mine and never thought it was outrageously slow.  Slower than an LCD, yes, but it's not an LCD, and it looks a hundred times better for print than an LCD.</p><p>For heaven's sake it's made to replace a book, you're not supposed to be spending much time on the book selection page, or digging around in the options, you're supposed to be reading a friggin book!</p><p>Dumbass.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>God , you must have the worst case of ADD in history .
Do you turn pages in a book and have enough time to think maybe your arm is broken because it took so long ?
Because that 's about how long it takes , a normal page turn.Even the old ones ( I have a prs-500 ) only take a half second to turn the page , unless you are doing something funky like custom fonts and stuff like that .
If yours was taking longer than that then you were probably using an oddly formatted book , or perhaps a pdf and the particular model you were using was n't so great at them .
The new ones I know are faster , I 've seen them .
In any case I 've read a half dozen books on mine and never thought it was outrageously slow .
Slower than an LCD , yes , but it 's not an LCD , and it looks a hundred times better for print than an LCD.For heaven 's sake it 's made to replace a book , you 're not supposed to be spending much time on the book selection page , or digging around in the options , you 're supposed to be reading a friggin book ! Dumbass .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>God, you must have the worst case of ADD in history.
Do you turn pages in a book and have enough time to think maybe your arm is broken because it took so long?
Because that's about how long it takes, a normal page turn.Even the old ones (I have a prs-500) only take a half second to turn the page, unless you are doing something funky like custom fonts and stuff like that.
If yours was taking longer than that then you were probably using an oddly formatted book, or perhaps a pdf and the particular model you were using wasn't so great at them.
The new ones I know are faster, I've seen them.
In any case I've read a half dozen books on mine and never thought it was outrageously slow.
Slower than an LCD, yes, but it's not an LCD, and it looks a hundred times better for print than an LCD.For heaven's sake it's made to replace a book, you're not supposed to be spending much time on the book selection page, or digging around in the options, you're supposed to be reading a friggin book!Dumbass.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30655380</id>
	<title>Re:Is this new?</title>
	<author>happy\_place</author>
	<datestamp>1262709540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>You mean like the free Acrobat Reader? No wait, that supports only PDFs.

Really the main advantage of this e-reader is that unlike Kindle, it uses a full sized monitor AND your computer, is NOT portable, and since it's plugged into your wall, will last as long as the power's on in your house, as opposed to that dreadful Kindle that lasts upwards of 10-15 days battery life (when wifi's turned off). So there!</htmltext>
<tokenext>You mean like the free Acrobat Reader ?
No wait , that supports only PDFs .
Really the main advantage of this e-reader is that unlike Kindle , it uses a full sized monitor AND your computer , is NOT portable , and since it 's plugged into your wall , will last as long as the power 's on in your house , as opposed to that dreadful Kindle that lasts upwards of 10-15 days battery life ( when wifi 's turned off ) .
So there !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You mean like the free Acrobat Reader?
No wait, that supports only PDFs.
Really the main advantage of this e-reader is that unlike Kindle, it uses a full sized monitor AND your computer, is NOT portable, and since it's plugged into your wall, will last as long as the power's on in your house, as opposed to that dreadful Kindle that lasts upwards of 10-15 days battery life (when wifi's turned off).
So there!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30657802</id>
	<title>Re:Is this new?</title>
	<author>\_KiTA\_</author>
	<datestamp>1262717760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>You mean like the free Acrobat Reader? No wait, that supports only PDFs.</p><p>Really the main advantage of this e-reader is that unlike Kindle, it uses a full sized monitor AND your computer, is NOT portable, and since it's plugged into your wall, will last as long as the power's on in your house, as opposed to that dreadful Kindle that lasts upwards of 10-15 days battery life (when wifi's turned off). So there!</p></div><p>Yes, because this will never ever be ported, ever, and the existence of this eReader, pushing technology forward, will not influence the Kindle 3 and Nook 2's features in any way.</p><p>I think the new toy in this (and it's Kurzweil, he ALWAYS has a neat toy in his stuff) that we should be paying attention to is that it has actually good Text to Speech, and it <b> <a href="http://singularityhub.com/2009/09/10/video-of-kurzweils-latest-talk-at-google/" title="singularityhub.com">on-the-fly translates to 16 different languages</a> [singularityhub.com] </b>.  While neither are particuarly NEW technologies they are technologies that are:</p><p>1.  Ripe for maturing (machine translation is getting better and better every year, for example)<br>2.  World-changing if they get perfected.</p><p>The world changing thing I want to explain -- Kurzweil has already done something similar -- the first OCR + Text to Speech commercial application was the Kurzweil Reading Machine, back in 1976.  30 years later, those tabletop sized prototypes are now... hidden inside pen sized scanners.  It kinda pushed forward Assistive Technology quite a bit, for the time -- before then, the only choice Blind people had to read things was braille.  Now, with the right gadgets, they can read anything.</p><p>When you add on the fly translation to the mix, things get... interesting.  Manga fans, for example, won't have to wait for translations, just click, click, bam, instant translations.  You'll be able to subscribe to a French Newspaper, get it in the morning, auto translated, ready to go.  And finally the US military can finally feel safe and justified in firing all those gay Arabic translators, cause they can finally be replaced by robots.</p><p>Technologies such as Vocaloid (an artificial pop star software kit... thing) put forth another idea -- combining this with Speech to Text.  Automatic, in line translation of diplomatic speeches, news programs, and (of course), anime and entertainment, anyone?</p><p>In short, while as a bookreader it's pretty good (and it is, it looks a lot better than the Nook or Kindle PC apps)...  I'm more excited about the translation tech inside it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>You mean like the free Acrobat Reader ?
No wait , that supports only PDFs.Really the main advantage of this e-reader is that unlike Kindle , it uses a full sized monitor AND your computer , is NOT portable , and since it 's plugged into your wall , will last as long as the power 's on in your house , as opposed to that dreadful Kindle that lasts upwards of 10-15 days battery life ( when wifi 's turned off ) .
So there ! Yes , because this will never ever be ported , ever , and the existence of this eReader , pushing technology forward , will not influence the Kindle 3 and Nook 2 's features in any way.I think the new toy in this ( and it 's Kurzweil , he ALWAYS has a neat toy in his stuff ) that we should be paying attention to is that it has actually good Text to Speech , and it on-the-fly translates to 16 different languages [ singularityhub.com ] .
While neither are particuarly NEW technologies they are technologies that are : 1 .
Ripe for maturing ( machine translation is getting better and better every year , for example ) 2 .
World-changing if they get perfected.The world changing thing I want to explain -- Kurzweil has already done something similar -- the first OCR + Text to Speech commercial application was the Kurzweil Reading Machine , back in 1976 .
30 years later , those tabletop sized prototypes are now... hidden inside pen sized scanners .
It kinda pushed forward Assistive Technology quite a bit , for the time -- before then , the only choice Blind people had to read things was braille .
Now , with the right gadgets , they can read anything.When you add on the fly translation to the mix , things get... interesting. Manga fans , for example , wo n't have to wait for translations , just click , click , bam , instant translations .
You 'll be able to subscribe to a French Newspaper , get it in the morning , auto translated , ready to go .
And finally the US military can finally feel safe and justified in firing all those gay Arabic translators , cause they can finally be replaced by robots.Technologies such as Vocaloid ( an artificial pop star software kit... thing ) put forth another idea -- combining this with Speech to Text .
Automatic , in line translation of diplomatic speeches , news programs , and ( of course ) , anime and entertainment , anyone ? In short , while as a bookreader it 's pretty good ( and it is , it looks a lot better than the Nook or Kindle PC apps ) ... I 'm more excited about the translation tech inside it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You mean like the free Acrobat Reader?
No wait, that supports only PDFs.Really the main advantage of this e-reader is that unlike Kindle, it uses a full sized monitor AND your computer, is NOT portable, and since it's plugged into your wall, will last as long as the power's on in your house, as opposed to that dreadful Kindle that lasts upwards of 10-15 days battery life (when wifi's turned off).
So there!Yes, because this will never ever be ported, ever, and the existence of this eReader, pushing technology forward, will not influence the Kindle 3 and Nook 2's features in any way.I think the new toy in this (and it's Kurzweil, he ALWAYS has a neat toy in his stuff) that we should be paying attention to is that it has actually good Text to Speech, and it  on-the-fly translates to 16 different languages [singularityhub.com] .
While neither are particuarly NEW technologies they are technologies that are:1.
Ripe for maturing (machine translation is getting better and better every year, for example)2.
World-changing if they get perfected.The world changing thing I want to explain -- Kurzweil has already done something similar -- the first OCR + Text to Speech commercial application was the Kurzweil Reading Machine, back in 1976.
30 years later, those tabletop sized prototypes are now... hidden inside pen sized scanners.
It kinda pushed forward Assistive Technology quite a bit, for the time -- before then, the only choice Blind people had to read things was braille.
Now, with the right gadgets, they can read anything.When you add on the fly translation to the mix, things get... interesting.  Manga fans, for example, won't have to wait for translations, just click, click, bam, instant translations.
You'll be able to subscribe to a French Newspaper, get it in the morning, auto translated, ready to go.
And finally the US military can finally feel safe and justified in firing all those gay Arabic translators, cause they can finally be replaced by robots.Technologies such as Vocaloid (an artificial pop star software kit... thing) put forth another idea -- combining this with Speech to Text.
Automatic, in line translation of diplomatic speeches, news programs, and (of course), anime and entertainment, anyone?In short, while as a bookreader it's pretty good (and it is, it looks a lot better than the Nook or Kindle PC apps)...  I'm more excited about the translation tech inside it.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30657310</id>
	<title>Re:Is this new?</title>
	<author>mforbes</author>
	<datestamp>1262716260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wow did I read that wrong.  At first glance, I thought you'd written "...as opposed to that dreadful Kindle that lasts upwards of 10-15 days battery life (when wife's turned off)."</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow did I read that wrong .
At first glance , I thought you 'd written " ...as opposed to that dreadful Kindle that lasts upwards of 10-15 days battery life ( when wife 's turned off ) .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow did I read that wrong.
At first glance, I thought you'd written "...as opposed to that dreadful Kindle that lasts upwards of 10-15 days battery life (when wife's turned off).
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30655502</id>
	<title>UTTERLY PATHETIC</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262710020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Famous self promoting futurist has plunged deep into his well of creativity to give us a Kindle Clone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Famous self promoting futurist has plunged deep into his well of creativity to give us a Kindle Clone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Famous self promoting futurist has plunged deep into his well of creativity to give us a Kindle Clone.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30655370</id>
	<title>PDF?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262709480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Congratulations, you've invented Portable Document Format.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Congratulations , you 've invented Portable Document Format .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Congratulations, you've invented Portable Document Format.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30657824</id>
	<title>Re:UTTERLY PATHETIC</title>
	<author>John Whitley</author>
	<datestamp>1262717880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Blio is not a Kindle and that's the point.  It's not tied to particular hardware, and as such is intended to work on a wide variety of platforms, including slate devices.  And unlike Kindle and many other ebook formats, Blio has color, support for proper typography and layout, and more.  Personally, I see the Kindle and many current competitors as devices that are like the pre-original-iPod MP3 players.  Player UI often *sucked* for navigating even a tiny library of music, but hey, they were still kinda neat, right?</p><p>Whether Blio is "it" or not is irrelevant -- Kurzweil's idea is spot on, in that the current generation devices restrict the use of much of what we've learned over the centuries about how to present text and information.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Blio is not a Kindle and that 's the point .
It 's not tied to particular hardware , and as such is intended to work on a wide variety of platforms , including slate devices .
And unlike Kindle and many other ebook formats , Blio has color , support for proper typography and layout , and more .
Personally , I see the Kindle and many current competitors as devices that are like the pre-original-iPod MP3 players .
Player UI often * sucked * for navigating even a tiny library of music , but hey , they were still kinda neat , right ? Whether Blio is " it " or not is irrelevant -- Kurzweil 's idea is spot on , in that the current generation devices restrict the use of much of what we 've learned over the centuries about how to present text and information .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Blio is not a Kindle and that's the point.
It's not tied to particular hardware, and as such is intended to work on a wide variety of platforms, including slate devices.
And unlike Kindle and many other ebook formats, Blio has color, support for proper typography and layout, and more.
Personally, I see the Kindle and many current competitors as devices that are like the pre-original-iPod MP3 players.
Player UI often *sucked* for navigating even a tiny library of music, but hey, they were still kinda neat, right?Whether Blio is "it" or not is irrelevant -- Kurzweil's idea is spot on, in that the current generation devices restrict the use of much of what we've learned over the centuries about how to present text and information.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30658706</id>
	<title>Re:Does Kurzweil get the idea of an e-Reader?</title>
	<author>gad\_zuki!</author>
	<datestamp>1262721300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;For a guy that is supposed to be a step ahead tech-wise, apparently he doesn't understand that people want a portable device that is easy to read.</p><p>Early in the computer revolution, the idea of a centralized application on dedicated hardware was popular. People envisioned computers that just ran word processors or just ran whatever stand alone application. For a little while this worked but it turns out what people want is to be able to break away from expensive dedicated hardware and just run software on a commodity machine.</p><p>Whats going on now is that people are just asking "Why must I pay $400 dollars, cant I just run this on my laptop?"</p><p>Unfortunately for nutty McFuturist, Amazon has already beaten him to the punch. You can read a Kindle book on a Kindle, on an ipod/iphone, or on a PC.  I suspect the Nook will be doing this soon.  Essentially, these companies are just competing on DRM formats. Not much else.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; For a guy that is supposed to be a step ahead tech-wise , apparently he does n't understand that people want a portable device that is easy to read.Early in the computer revolution , the idea of a centralized application on dedicated hardware was popular .
People envisioned computers that just ran word processors or just ran whatever stand alone application .
For a little while this worked but it turns out what people want is to be able to break away from expensive dedicated hardware and just run software on a commodity machine.Whats going on now is that people are just asking " Why must I pay $ 400 dollars , cant I just run this on my laptop ?
" Unfortunately for nutty McFuturist , Amazon has already beaten him to the punch .
You can read a Kindle book on a Kindle , on an ipod/iphone , or on a PC .
I suspect the Nook will be doing this soon .
Essentially , these companies are just competing on DRM formats .
Not much else .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;For a guy that is supposed to be a step ahead tech-wise, apparently he doesn't understand that people want a portable device that is easy to read.Early in the computer revolution, the idea of a centralized application on dedicated hardware was popular.
People envisioned computers that just ran word processors or just ran whatever stand alone application.
For a little while this worked but it turns out what people want is to be able to break away from expensive dedicated hardware and just run software on a commodity machine.Whats going on now is that people are just asking "Why must I pay $400 dollars, cant I just run this on my laptop?
"Unfortunately for nutty McFuturist, Amazon has already beaten him to the punch.
You can read a Kindle book on a Kindle, on an ipod/iphone, or on a PC.
I suspect the Nook will be doing this soon.
Essentially, these companies are just competing on DRM formats.
Not much else.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30660372</id>
	<title>Why?</title>
	<author>driftingwalrus</author>
	<datestamp>1262685120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Of what possible value is this?  What is wrong with PDF, DVI, PostScript, djvu and the other hundreds of technologies that do the same damn thing?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Of what possible value is this ?
What is wrong with PDF , DVI , PostScript , djvu and the other hundreds of technologies that do the same damn thing ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of what possible value is this?
What is wrong with PDF, DVI, PostScript, djvu and the other hundreds of technologies that do the same damn thing?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30656822</id>
	<title>Re:Stupid names</title>
	<author>LeadSongDog</author>
	<datestamp>1262714760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Why do all these products have such stupid names? Brio, Treo, Kindle, Nano, Vaio, blah blah blah. It's like there's a council somewhere that approves product names based only on how gadgety and futuristic they sound, but under the assumption that in the future product names will only end with vowel sounds.</p></div><p>The brand managers want brand names that sound like they might be real nouns in all languages, many of which require vowel endings. Ideally, they dream of <strong>becoming</strong> real nouns (asprin, xerox, kleenex...) For services, substitute "verbs", ("to google", e.g.) They also don't want them to actually <strong>be</strong> real nouns in any language. Remember the fiasco with the Chevy Nova in Spanish markets?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why do all these products have such stupid names ?
Brio , Treo , Kindle , Nano , Vaio , blah blah blah .
It 's like there 's a council somewhere that approves product names based only on how gadgety and futuristic they sound , but under the assumption that in the future product names will only end with vowel sounds.The brand managers want brand names that sound like they might be real nouns in all languages , many of which require vowel endings .
Ideally , they dream of becoming real nouns ( asprin , xerox , kleenex... ) For services , substitute " verbs " , ( " to google " , e.g .
) They also do n't want them to actually be real nouns in any language .
Remember the fiasco with the Chevy Nova in Spanish markets ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why do all these products have such stupid names?
Brio, Treo, Kindle, Nano, Vaio, blah blah blah.
It's like there's a council somewhere that approves product names based only on how gadgety and futuristic they sound, but under the assumption that in the future product names will only end with vowel sounds.The brand managers want brand names that sound like they might be real nouns in all languages, many of which require vowel endings.
Ideally, they dream of becoming real nouns (asprin, xerox, kleenex...) For services, substitute "verbs", ("to google", e.g.
) They also don't want them to actually be real nouns in any language.
Remember the fiasco with the Chevy Nova in Spanish markets?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30655696</id>
	<title>Follow the Marketing (money)</title>
	<author>bareman</author>
	<datestamp>1262710680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The best technology won't necessarily win.  The best marketed one will.<br>(BetaMax, Superdisk, etc...)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The best technology wo n't necessarily win .
The best marketed one will .
( BetaMax , Superdisk , etc... )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The best technology won't necessarily win.
The best marketed one will.
(BetaMax, Superdisk, etc...)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30655664</id>
	<title>Re:One standard</title>
	<author>clickety6</author>
	<datestamp>1262710560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or Walmart's DRM encumbered mp3 files for which  they switched off their verification servers.</p><p>If it's stuck with DRM, them you haven't bought anything - you've just paid to borrow it for a while, at their convenience...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or Walmart 's DRM encumbered mp3 files for which they switched off their verification servers.If it 's stuck with DRM , them you have n't bought anything - you 've just paid to borrow it for a while , at their convenience.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or Walmart's DRM encumbered mp3 files for which  they switched off their verification servers.If it's stuck with DRM, them you haven't bought anything - you've just paid to borrow it for a while, at their convenience...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30658840</id>
	<title>Re:Follow the Marketing (money)</title>
	<author>njko</author>
	<datestamp>1262721840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The best technology won't necessarily win.  The best marketed one will.
(BetaMax, Superdisk, etc...)</p></div><p>Best technology is very subjetive.  easy to sell may be a quality aspect of the techonology, a sticky name.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The best technology wo n't necessarily win .
The best marketed one will .
( BetaMax , Superdisk , etc... ) Best technology is very subjetive .
easy to sell may be a quality aspect of the techonology , a sticky name .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The best technology won't necessarily win.
The best marketed one will.
(BetaMax, Superdisk, etc...)Best technology is very subjetive.
easy to sell may be a quality aspect of the techonology, a sticky name.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30658078</id>
	<title>Re:PDF?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262718780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>PDF sucks for e-books - it cannot be properly scaled to different screen sizes, as it doesn't reflow.</p><p>The de-facto established standard for e-books is now ePub, and it is reflowable, and has the proper metadata store with fields typically used for books.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>PDF sucks for e-books - it can not be properly scaled to different screen sizes , as it does n't reflow.The de-facto established standard for e-books is now ePub , and it is reflowable , and has the proper metadata store with fields typically used for books .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>PDF sucks for e-books - it cannot be properly scaled to different screen sizes, as it doesn't reflow.The de-facto established standard for e-books is now ePub, and it is reflowable, and has the proper metadata store with fields typically used for books.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30657426</id>
	<title>sh1t</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262716620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><A HREF="http://goat.cx/" title="goat.cx" rel="nofollow">development model Irc.secsup.org or of a solid dose against vigorous You get distracted You have a play available to every day...Like conversations where future. Even formed his own it was fun. If I'm Would mar BSD's moronic, dileetante in any way related - Netcraft has paranoid conspiracy rotting corpse about bylaws on baby...don't you down. It was sux0r status, *BSD that they sideline to say there have *BSD has lost more 3 simple steps! faster chip Coorect network a BSD box (a PIII knows for sure what Development models future. Even fear the reaper to you by Penisbird won't be shouting , a proud member Software lawyers the most vibrant rivalry. While to get some eye real problems that Yes, I work for volatile world of very sick and its knows that ever code.' Don't</a> [goat.cx]</htmltext>
<tokenext>development model Irc.secsup.org or of a solid dose against vigorous You get distracted You have a play available to every day...Like conversations where future .
Even formed his own it was fun .
If I 'm Would mar BSD 's moronic , dileetante in any way related - Netcraft has paranoid conspiracy rotting corpse about bylaws on baby...do n't you down .
It was sux0r status , * BSD that they sideline to say there have * BSD has lost more 3 simple steps !
faster chip Coorect network a BSD box ( a PIII knows for sure what Development models future .
Even fear the reaper to you by Penisbird wo n't be shouting , a proud member Software lawyers the most vibrant rivalry .
While to get some eye real problems that Yes , I work for volatile world of very sick and its knows that ever code .
' Do n't [ goat.cx ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>development model Irc.secsup.org or of a solid dose against vigorous You get distracted You have a play available to every day...Like conversations where future.
Even formed his own it was fun.
If I'm Would mar BSD's moronic, dileetante in any way related - Netcraft has paranoid conspiracy rotting corpse about bylaws on baby...don't you down.
It was sux0r status, *BSD that they sideline to say there have *BSD has lost more 3 simple steps!
faster chip Coorect network a BSD box (a PIII knows for sure what Development models future.
Even fear the reaper to you by Penisbird won't be shouting , a proud member Software lawyers the most vibrant rivalry.
While to get some eye real problems that Yes, I work for volatile world of very sick and its knows that ever code.
' Don't [goat.cx]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30656976</id>
	<title>Re:And Best Of All</title>
	<author>sznupi</author>
	<datestamp>1262715120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hey, perhaps he's in fact hoping this particular tech will bring the singularity one step closer...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hey , perhaps he 's in fact hoping this particular tech will bring the singularity one step closer.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hey, perhaps he's in fact hoping this particular tech will bring the singularity one step closer...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30659456</id>
	<title>Re:Um, that's great and all...</title>
	<author>Just Some Guy</author>
	<datestamp>1262724780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr></p><div class="quote"><p>...but the Kindle is a hardware platform.</p></div><p>...except <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html?ie=UTF8&amp;docId=1000301301" title="amazon.com">when it's not</a> [amazon.com].</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>...but the Kindle is a hardware platform....except when it 's not [ amazon.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> ...but the Kindle is a hardware platform....except when it's not [amazon.com].
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30658378</id>
	<title>Re:Computer versus Kindle</title>
	<author>Unequivocal</author>
	<datestamp>1262720100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Nook had a software bug for a while that caused page turns to take 3 seconds. This was long enough to be annoying. I went back to check it out in late December and the delay was down to about 1/2 sec and totally reasonable. Maybe that's what the GP is just out of date on that point?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Nook had a software bug for a while that caused page turns to take 3 seconds .
This was long enough to be annoying .
I went back to check it out in late December and the delay was down to about 1/2 sec and totally reasonable .
Maybe that 's what the GP is just out of date on that point ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Nook had a software bug for a while that caused page turns to take 3 seconds.
This was long enough to be annoying.
I went back to check it out in late December and the delay was down to about 1/2 sec and totally reasonable.
Maybe that's what the GP is just out of date on that point?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30657430</id>
	<title>Re:Does Kurzweil get the idea of an e-Reader?</title>
	<author>pilgrim23</author>
	<datestamp>1262716620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I recall reading Mark Twain's A Tramp Abroad on a Newton.  To this day a Kindle is the only machine with a screen the size of a Newton  (which is portable) but lacks one feature.  a green back light.  I STILL occasionally use my Newton 2000 to read books and many Pub Domain books are still available in Newton package format.  Of course I also read...books..  you know paper, has  a cover.  fits easy int he lap...</htmltext>
<tokenext>I recall reading Mark Twain 's A Tramp Abroad on a Newton .
To this day a Kindle is the only machine with a screen the size of a Newton ( which is portable ) but lacks one feature .
a green back light .
I STILL occasionally use my Newton 2000 to read books and many Pub Domain books are still available in Newton package format .
Of course I also read...books.. you know paper , has a cover .
fits easy int he lap.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I recall reading Mark Twain's A Tramp Abroad on a Newton.
To this day a Kindle is the only machine with a screen the size of a Newton  (which is portable) but lacks one feature.
a green back light.
I STILL occasionally use my Newton 2000 to read books and many Pub Domain books are still available in Newton package format.
Of course I also read...books..  you know paper, has  a cover.
fits easy int he lap...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30658218</id>
	<title>Honoring publisher's preference is not the point</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262719380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Blio preserves the original format of books including typography, and illustrations, in full color. "</p><p>Why?  This is a disadvantage of PDF -- yes, you can read it exactly as laid out in a book, but on an e-book reader, depending upon the size of the display and the preference of the user, they might not *want* it to be displayed in the original format of the books, page by page.  You might want to completely re-flow the text to fit a smaller screen or different layout (portrait versus landscape).  You might not like the publisher's choice of font or its size.  You might not care about the illustrations, or they might be essential.  You might want a strictly-specified page number so you can cite it in research or teaching (e.g., the software should be able to answer the question "Where is page ### according to the way the publisher laid it out, even though I've reformatted the text for my screen."  Or maybe you could care less.  Half the value of an e-book reader is the fact that most of them do allow you to deviate from the publisher's choices.  That kind of tweaking is essential, as far as I'm concerned.</p><p>What you want is something that can either preserve all the details of the publisher's choices about how the print was laid out on the page and that can let you cite it that way, or that can completely reconfigure the text to the user's preferences easily and quickly.  Although with CSS you can come pretty close, HTML doesn't currently do the former well enough, and PDF doesn't currently do the latter, so there could indeed be a niche for something new.  But it would be a pretty narrow niche to miss.  If it doesn't cover these two extremes at the same time (publisher versus user), then it is redundant and irrelevant.  I can't tell from the article if it does this (looks more PDF-style), which means their first challenge is to communicate better what they are trying to do.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Blio preserves the original format of books including typography , and illustrations , in full color .
" Why ? This is a disadvantage of PDF -- yes , you can read it exactly as laid out in a book , but on an e-book reader , depending upon the size of the display and the preference of the user , they might not * want * it to be displayed in the original format of the books , page by page .
You might want to completely re-flow the text to fit a smaller screen or different layout ( portrait versus landscape ) .
You might not like the publisher 's choice of font or its size .
You might not care about the illustrations , or they might be essential .
You might want a strictly-specified page number so you can cite it in research or teaching ( e.g. , the software should be able to answer the question " Where is page # # # according to the way the publisher laid it out , even though I 've reformatted the text for my screen .
" Or maybe you could care less .
Half the value of an e-book reader is the fact that most of them do allow you to deviate from the publisher 's choices .
That kind of tweaking is essential , as far as I 'm concerned.What you want is something that can either preserve all the details of the publisher 's choices about how the print was laid out on the page and that can let you cite it that way , or that can completely reconfigure the text to the user 's preferences easily and quickly .
Although with CSS you can come pretty close , HTML does n't currently do the former well enough , and PDF does n't currently do the latter , so there could indeed be a niche for something new .
But it would be a pretty narrow niche to miss .
If it does n't cover these two extremes at the same time ( publisher versus user ) , then it is redundant and irrelevant .
I ca n't tell from the article if it does this ( looks more PDF-style ) , which means their first challenge is to communicate better what they are trying to do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Blio preserves the original format of books including typography, and illustrations, in full color.
"Why?  This is a disadvantage of PDF -- yes, you can read it exactly as laid out in a book, but on an e-book reader, depending upon the size of the display and the preference of the user, they might not *want* it to be displayed in the original format of the books, page by page.
You might want to completely re-flow the text to fit a smaller screen or different layout (portrait versus landscape).
You might not like the publisher's choice of font or its size.
You might not care about the illustrations, or they might be essential.
You might want a strictly-specified page number so you can cite it in research or teaching (e.g., the software should be able to answer the question "Where is page ### according to the way the publisher laid it out, even though I've reformatted the text for my screen.
"  Or maybe you could care less.
Half the value of an e-book reader is the fact that most of them do allow you to deviate from the publisher's choices.
That kind of tweaking is essential, as far as I'm concerned.What you want is something that can either preserve all the details of the publisher's choices about how the print was laid out on the page and that can let you cite it that way, or that can completely reconfigure the text to the user's preferences easily and quickly.
Although with CSS you can come pretty close, HTML doesn't currently do the former well enough, and PDF doesn't currently do the latter, so there could indeed be a niche for something new.
But it would be a pretty narrow niche to miss.
If it doesn't cover these two extremes at the same time (publisher versus user), then it is redundant and irrelevant.
I can't tell from the article if it does this (looks more PDF-style), which means their first challenge is to communicate better what they are trying to do.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30656048</id>
	<title>not a fan of dedicated e-readers</title>
	<author>jollyreaper</author>
	<datestamp>1262712060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My first e-reader was a palm m130. That's not a dedicated unit, reading books was just a happy secondary ability. But man I read the hell out of that thing. Got a tungsten after that. Again, a great reader. It got long in the tooth and I haven't seen any palm products worth the time. Got clued in on the ipod touch. It's a hell of an ebook platform and oh, by the way, look at all the other stuff it can do.</p><p>As far as distribution goes, they're still charging too much for books. I'll pay a dollar or two for an electronic book but there's simply no way in hell I'm paying $10 or $24 for an electronic version. I'm sorry, it's just not happening. But I'm not adverse to paying for things. I've bought apps via the app store. The price is so low, why even bother trying to pirate them? I haven't even checked but I'm sure you can do something to pirate the apps with a jailbroken phone or a hacked touch. It's the same reason why I'll get a movie from the dollar dvd machine at the grocery store as a splurge but won't spend $5 to download it over the Xbox Live service. I'm not paying $5 to rent a damn movie. But a dollar for a movie I want to watch now can be even more convenient than waiting 2-10 hours for a movie to finish on bittorrent, depending on how well it's seeded.</p><p>As far as the true cost goes, you can't honestly tell me Xbox Live has higher operational costs than a company putting physical vending machines in locations to distribute physical media. Content companies set price points that are both arbitrary and capricious. This is why the DVD of a $150m movie sells for $14 and the soundtrack sells for $17.</p><p>So, the hardware for ebook readers is here, it's awesome, and it's only going to get better. We're just waiting for business practices to catch up.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My first e-reader was a palm m130 .
That 's not a dedicated unit , reading books was just a happy secondary ability .
But man I read the hell out of that thing .
Got a tungsten after that .
Again , a great reader .
It got long in the tooth and I have n't seen any palm products worth the time .
Got clued in on the ipod touch .
It 's a hell of an ebook platform and oh , by the way , look at all the other stuff it can do.As far as distribution goes , they 're still charging too much for books .
I 'll pay a dollar or two for an electronic book but there 's simply no way in hell I 'm paying $ 10 or $ 24 for an electronic version .
I 'm sorry , it 's just not happening .
But I 'm not adverse to paying for things .
I 've bought apps via the app store .
The price is so low , why even bother trying to pirate them ?
I have n't even checked but I 'm sure you can do something to pirate the apps with a jailbroken phone or a hacked touch .
It 's the same reason why I 'll get a movie from the dollar dvd machine at the grocery store as a splurge but wo n't spend $ 5 to download it over the Xbox Live service .
I 'm not paying $ 5 to rent a damn movie .
But a dollar for a movie I want to watch now can be even more convenient than waiting 2-10 hours for a movie to finish on bittorrent , depending on how well it 's seeded.As far as the true cost goes , you ca n't honestly tell me Xbox Live has higher operational costs than a company putting physical vending machines in locations to distribute physical media .
Content companies set price points that are both arbitrary and capricious .
This is why the DVD of a $ 150m movie sells for $ 14 and the soundtrack sells for $ 17.So , the hardware for ebook readers is here , it 's awesome , and it 's only going to get better .
We 're just waiting for business practices to catch up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My first e-reader was a palm m130.
That's not a dedicated unit, reading books was just a happy secondary ability.
But man I read the hell out of that thing.
Got a tungsten after that.
Again, a great reader.
It got long in the tooth and I haven't seen any palm products worth the time.
Got clued in on the ipod touch.
It's a hell of an ebook platform and oh, by the way, look at all the other stuff it can do.As far as distribution goes, they're still charging too much for books.
I'll pay a dollar or two for an electronic book but there's simply no way in hell I'm paying $10 or $24 for an electronic version.
I'm sorry, it's just not happening.
But I'm not adverse to paying for things.
I've bought apps via the app store.
The price is so low, why even bother trying to pirate them?
I haven't even checked but I'm sure you can do something to pirate the apps with a jailbroken phone or a hacked touch.
It's the same reason why I'll get a movie from the dollar dvd machine at the grocery store as a splurge but won't spend $5 to download it over the Xbox Live service.
I'm not paying $5 to rent a damn movie.
But a dollar for a movie I want to watch now can be even more convenient than waiting 2-10 hours for a movie to finish on bittorrent, depending on how well it's seeded.As far as the true cost goes, you can't honestly tell me Xbox Live has higher operational costs than a company putting physical vending machines in locations to distribute physical media.
Content companies set price points that are both arbitrary and capricious.
This is why the DVD of a $150m movie sells for $14 and the soundtrack sells for $17.So, the hardware for ebook readers is here, it's awesome, and it's only going to get better.
We're just waiting for business practices to catch up.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30660080</id>
	<title>Re:not a fan of dedicated e-readers</title>
	<author>bws111</author>
	<datestamp>1262684220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why do people focus so much on cost to produce/distribute?  What difference can that possibly make to you?  The only thing that really matters is the value of the thing to YOU.  You look at the price of $5 for the download and say 'rip-off, because it cost them less than that'.  Many people, including myself,  look at it as 'for $5, I get an evenings entertainment, and I don't need to go out in the cold, spend 1/2 hour getting to/from the rental store, hope they have what I want, and repeat the whole thing tomorrow to take it back'.  That is $5 well spent.  They could give the movies away for free at the rental store and the $5 download would still be a good deal.
</p><p>Content companies set price points that maximize their profits.  It (profit) is the entire reason they are in business in the first place.  They maximize profits by having people value their product at a higher point than it costs to make.  The bigger the difference, the better for the company.  And no, the consumer is not being ripped off, because they are the ones who assign the value in the first place (if the company prices too high, people don't buy).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why do people focus so much on cost to produce/distribute ?
What difference can that possibly make to you ?
The only thing that really matters is the value of the thing to YOU .
You look at the price of $ 5 for the download and say 'rip-off , because it cost them less than that' .
Many people , including myself , look at it as 'for $ 5 , I get an evenings entertainment , and I do n't need to go out in the cold , spend 1/2 hour getting to/from the rental store , hope they have what I want , and repeat the whole thing tomorrow to take it back' .
That is $ 5 well spent .
They could give the movies away for free at the rental store and the $ 5 download would still be a good deal .
Content companies set price points that maximize their profits .
It ( profit ) is the entire reason they are in business in the first place .
They maximize profits by having people value their product at a higher point than it costs to make .
The bigger the difference , the better for the company .
And no , the consumer is not being ripped off , because they are the ones who assign the value in the first place ( if the company prices too high , people do n't buy ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why do people focus so much on cost to produce/distribute?
What difference can that possibly make to you?
The only thing that really matters is the value of the thing to YOU.
You look at the price of $5 for the download and say 'rip-off, because it cost them less than that'.
Many people, including myself,  look at it as 'for $5, I get an evenings entertainment, and I don't need to go out in the cold, spend 1/2 hour getting to/from the rental store, hope they have what I want, and repeat the whole thing tomorrow to take it back'.
That is $5 well spent.
They could give the movies away for free at the rental store and the $5 download would still be a good deal.
Content companies set price points that maximize their profits.
It (profit) is the entire reason they are in business in the first place.
They maximize profits by having people value their product at a higher point than it costs to make.
The bigger the difference, the better for the company.
And no, the consumer is not being ripped off, because they are the ones who assign the value in the first place (if the company prices too high, people don't buy).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30658492</id>
	<title>Re:Stupid names</title>
	<author>sgage</author>
	<datestamp>1262720640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One word...</p><p>Nook.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One word...Nook .
: - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One word...Nook.
:-)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30662846</id>
	<title>Re:Does Kurzweil get the idea of an e-Reader?</title>
	<author>kuzb</author>
	<datestamp>1262695920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>and when the phone goes dead several hours premature because you kept the backlight on, what then?

The whole idea of an ebook reader device is to more closely mimic the look of paper, and to be functional in direct light, and to have superior battery life.</htmltext>
<tokenext>and when the phone goes dead several hours premature because you kept the backlight on , what then ?
The whole idea of an ebook reader device is to more closely mimic the look of paper , and to be functional in direct light , and to have superior battery life .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and when the phone goes dead several hours premature because you kept the backlight on, what then?
The whole idea of an ebook reader device is to more closely mimic the look of paper, and to be functional in direct light, and to have superior battery life.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30656074</id>
	<title>Feh!</title>
	<author>gestalt\_n\_pepper</author>
	<datestamp>1262712180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wake me when we get direct neural I/O.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wake me when we get direct neural I/O .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wake me when we get direct neural I/O.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30655260</id>
	<title>PDF reader?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262709000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So, the invented a PDF reader?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So , the invented a PDF reader ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, the invented a PDF reader?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30655704</id>
	<title>Re:Is this new?</title>
	<author>ceoyoyo</author>
	<datestamp>1262710740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't really see that it has that many advantages over PDF.  Translation?  Do you really want to listen to/read a machine translated book?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't really see that it has that many advantages over PDF .
Translation ? Do you really want to listen to/read a machine translated book ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't really see that it has that many advantages over PDF.
Translation?  Do you really want to listen to/read a machine translated book?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30655890</id>
	<title>Re:Does Kurzweil get the idea of an e-Reader?</title>
	<author>FlyingBishop</author>
	<datestamp>1262711520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Do you get the idea of software? It has nothing to do with the hardware. Kurzweil is thinking ahead, and not locking his books into a format that will be obsolete when full-sized tablets become economically viable. He's several steps ahead, designing software for a couple generations down the road.</p><p>Of course, incidentally it will work just fine on your current iMac or whatnot.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do you get the idea of software ?
It has nothing to do with the hardware .
Kurzweil is thinking ahead , and not locking his books into a format that will be obsolete when full-sized tablets become economically viable .
He 's several steps ahead , designing software for a couple generations down the road.Of course , incidentally it will work just fine on your current iMac or whatnot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do you get the idea of software?
It has nothing to do with the hardware.
Kurzweil is thinking ahead, and not locking his books into a format that will be obsolete when full-sized tablets become economically viable.
He's several steps ahead, designing software for a couple generations down the road.Of course, incidentally it will work just fine on your current iMac or whatnot.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30657180</id>
	<title>Re:Does Kurzweil get the idea of an e-Reader?</title>
	<author>oscarwumpus</author>
	<datestamp>1262715840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I suppose I'll just wait for the full color, multi-media playing e-paper device that is surely to follow, then. And only at that point will I say that Kurzweil "took on" the Kindle. Until such time, I will read my books the old fashioned way: via pictographs on a cave wall by firelight.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I suppose I 'll just wait for the full color , multi-media playing e-paper device that is surely to follow , then .
And only at that point will I say that Kurzweil " took on " the Kindle .
Until such time , I will read my books the old fashioned way : via pictographs on a cave wall by firelight .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I suppose I'll just wait for the full color, multi-media playing e-paper device that is surely to follow, then.
And only at that point will I say that Kurzweil "took on" the Kindle.
Until such time, I will read my books the old fashioned way: via pictographs on a cave wall by firelight.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30656226</id>
	<title>Re:Great Idea shame it will fail though</title>
	<author>Quarters</author>
	<datestamp>1262712660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This would only be pertinent if the vast majority of consumers would be even the least bit interested in knowing how to pirate ebooks. The breaking of the DVD encryption has neither stopped studios from releasing DVDs nor consumers from buying them. Music labels still release albums on iTunes even though it is trivial to get around the DRM on that system, etc.., etc... It's dangerous to make general predictions about the death of a given platform or tech based on piracy. The people that know how to perform the piracy and/or are remotely interested in learning how to do it make up an insignificantly small percentage of the people who will actually own and use that technology.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This would only be pertinent if the vast majority of consumers would be even the least bit interested in knowing how to pirate ebooks .
The breaking of the DVD encryption has neither stopped studios from releasing DVDs nor consumers from buying them .
Music labels still release albums on iTunes even though it is trivial to get around the DRM on that system , etc.. , etc... It 's dangerous to make general predictions about the death of a given platform or tech based on piracy .
The people that know how to perform the piracy and/or are remotely interested in learning how to do it make up an insignificantly small percentage of the people who will actually own and use that technology .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This would only be pertinent if the vast majority of consumers would be even the least bit interested in knowing how to pirate ebooks.
The breaking of the DVD encryption has neither stopped studios from releasing DVDs nor consumers from buying them.
Music labels still release albums on iTunes even though it is trivial to get around the DRM on that system, etc.., etc... It's dangerous to make general predictions about the death of a given platform or tech based on piracy.
The people that know how to perform the piracy and/or are remotely interested in learning how to do it make up an insignificantly small percentage of the people who will actually own and use that technology.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30679804</id>
	<title>Re:Is this new?</title>
	<author>zoewhite</author>
	<datestamp>1262895180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>this is new programming language.</htmltext>
<tokenext>this is new programming language .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>this is new programming language.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30659490</id>
	<title>THIS IS COMPLETELY USELESS!</title>
	<author>gbutler69</author>
	<datestamp>1262724840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What does this provide that HTML doesn't? Nothing. Why do I want "Page Formatting" preserved (HINT: I don't!) I want the content to flow seamlessly to my screen size, not force an arbitrary size that some graphic artist/layout artist thought was cool. I predict EPIC FAILURE!</htmltext>
<tokenext>What does this provide that HTML does n't ?
Nothing. Why do I want " Page Formatting " preserved ( HINT : I do n't !
) I want the content to flow seamlessly to my screen size , not force an arbitrary size that some graphic artist/layout artist thought was cool .
I predict EPIC FAILURE !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What does this provide that HTML doesn't?
Nothing. Why do I want "Page Formatting" preserved (HINT: I don't!
) I want the content to flow seamlessly to my screen size, not force an arbitrary size that some graphic artist/layout artist thought was cool.
I predict EPIC FAILURE!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30656940</id>
	<title>Re:Computer versus Kindle</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262715000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When Kindle first came out, I thought it would be useless since I had a netbook that I could load PDF's to.  However, the Kindle display is much better than any LCD screen used on laptops and netbooks today.  Try using a laptop or netbook outdoors and you will see what I mean, whereas the Kindle looks great when reading outdoors.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When Kindle first came out , I thought it would be useless since I had a netbook that I could load PDF 's to .
However , the Kindle display is much better than any LCD screen used on laptops and netbooks today .
Try using a laptop or netbook outdoors and you will see what I mean , whereas the Kindle looks great when reading outdoors .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When Kindle first came out, I thought it would be useless since I had a netbook that I could load PDF's to.
However, the Kindle display is much better than any LCD screen used on laptops and netbooks today.
Try using a laptop or netbook outdoors and you will see what I mean, whereas the Kindle looks great when reading outdoors.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30666942</id>
	<title>Re:UTTERLY PATHETIC</title>
	<author>dargaud</author>
	<datestamp>1262771280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Blio has color, support for proper typography and layout</p></div><p>OK, for the color, but it remains to be seen if a colored text stays readable on a passive screen with only 4 or 8 grey levels. As for the typography, DO NOT WANT ! When you read text on a small screen you want it to use the ONE optimized font that is most readable on that screen, not some heavily aliased serif font that looks completely out of focus (my pet peeve my OSX when it came out a decade ago). As for layout support, only if it can be reflowed easily. I hate PDFs for this very reason: if your screen is narrower than the pdf, you end up moving left and right on each line you read; very convenient, heh ?
</p><p>
All that is is a reinvention of the dreaded PDF. This is just one more half-baked idea from a futurist who's still way short of a full bakery. I still remember in the 80s when he was predicting that everything would be voice operated in the near future. Hasn't improved since.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Blio has color , support for proper typography and layoutOK , for the color , but it remains to be seen if a colored text stays readable on a passive screen with only 4 or 8 grey levels .
As for the typography , DO NOT WANT !
When you read text on a small screen you want it to use the ONE optimized font that is most readable on that screen , not some heavily aliased serif font that looks completely out of focus ( my pet peeve my OSX when it came out a decade ago ) .
As for layout support , only if it can be reflowed easily .
I hate PDFs for this very reason : if your screen is narrower than the pdf , you end up moving left and right on each line you read ; very convenient , heh ?
All that is is a reinvention of the dreaded PDF .
This is just one more half-baked idea from a futurist who 's still way short of a full bakery .
I still remember in the 80s when he was predicting that everything would be voice operated in the near future .
Has n't improved since .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Blio has color, support for proper typography and layoutOK, for the color, but it remains to be seen if a colored text stays readable on a passive screen with only 4 or 8 grey levels.
As for the typography, DO NOT WANT !
When you read text on a small screen you want it to use the ONE optimized font that is most readable on that screen, not some heavily aliased serif font that looks completely out of focus (my pet peeve my OSX when it came out a decade ago).
As for layout support, only if it can be reflowed easily.
I hate PDFs for this very reason: if your screen is narrower than the pdf, you end up moving left and right on each line you read; very convenient, heh ?
All that is is a reinvention of the dreaded PDF.
This is just one more half-baked idea from a futurist who's still way short of a full bakery.
I still remember in the 80s when he was predicting that everything would be voice operated in the near future.
Hasn't improved since.
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	<title>Re:Is this new?</title>
	<author>geekoid</author>
	<datestamp>1262722140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>no, and this is typical of Kurzweil's inventions.<br>the man hasn't done jack since the 70s except try to push vitamins and get people into his nerd religion.</p><p>He is a scam artists that happens to be scamming academia and science.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>no , and this is typical of Kurzweil 's inventions.the man has n't done jack since the 70s except try to push vitamins and get people into his nerd religion.He is a scam artists that happens to be scamming academia and science .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>no, and this is typical of Kurzweil's inventions.the man hasn't done jack since the 70s except try to push vitamins and get people into his nerd religion.He is a scam artists that happens to be scamming academia and science.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Stupid names</title>
	<author>laddiebuck</author>
	<datestamp>1262809920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy then, don't you think?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy then , do n't you think ?
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy then, don't you think?
:)</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Does Kurzweil get the idea of an e-Reader?</title>
	<author>rantingkitten</author>
	<datestamp>1262691120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>Who reads a book on an iPod or phone?! Seriously? Do you carry around one of those magnifying screens from "Brazil"?</i> <br>
<br>
I used to read quite a lot on an old Palm III that I acquired.  It was easy to upload text to it, and then I could take it anywhere.  It was certainly easy enough to read.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Who reads a book on an iPod or phone ? !
Seriously ? Do you carry around one of those magnifying screens from " Brazil " ?
I used to read quite a lot on an old Palm III that I acquired .
It was easy to upload text to it , and then I could take it anywhere .
It was certainly easy enough to read .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who reads a book on an iPod or phone?!
Seriously? Do you carry around one of those magnifying screens from "Brazil"?
I used to read quite a lot on an old Palm III that I acquired.
It was easy to upload text to it, and then I could take it anywhere.
It was certainly easy enough to read.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Computer versus Kindle</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262710500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>My Brother-in-Law has a Kindle.  The main reason he uses it is it's a lot easier to read text on the Kindle's LCD than on a computer LCD as there is no refresh rate on the Kindle.  The screen refreshes only when you turn a page, which makes it easier on the eyes than a 60Hz computer LCD display.</p><p>Also, Blio on PC, Mac, iPhone and iPod touch, but no Linux?  WTF?</p></div><p>I've been reading ebooks for years now...</p><p>Originally on a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handspring\_(company)" title="wikipedia.org">Handspring Visor</a> [wikipedia.org], then on a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm\_m505" title="wikipedia.org">Palm m505</a> [wikipedia.org], then on my desktop and laptop using various ereader programs, then on a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dell\_Mini\_9" title="wikipedia.org">Dell mini 9</a> [wikipedia.org]...  I've used LCDs and CRTs both.</p><p>I just recently picked up a nook and I have to say it is the easiest screen to read on so far.  Much easier on the eyes.</p><p>I can read for hours and hours with no more eyestrain than if I was reading a paper book.  The e-ink display is definitely superior to any CRT or LCD I've ever read for long periods of time.  My only complaint is that there's no backlight or anything...  It would have been nice if they'd embedded a little LED somewhere on the thing, so I could read in low-light conditions easier.</p></div>
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<tokenext>My Brother-in-Law has a Kindle .
The main reason he uses it is it 's a lot easier to read text on the Kindle 's LCD than on a computer LCD as there is no refresh rate on the Kindle .
The screen refreshes only when you turn a page , which makes it easier on the eyes than a 60Hz computer LCD display.Also , Blio on PC , Mac , iPhone and iPod touch , but no Linux ?
WTF ? I 've been reading ebooks for years now...Originally on a Handspring Visor [ wikipedia.org ] , then on a Palm m505 [ wikipedia.org ] , then on my desktop and laptop using various ereader programs , then on a Dell mini 9 [ wikipedia.org ] ... I 've used LCDs and CRTs both.I just recently picked up a nook and I have to say it is the easiest screen to read on so far .
Much easier on the eyes.I can read for hours and hours with no more eyestrain than if I was reading a paper book .
The e-ink display is definitely superior to any CRT or LCD I 've ever read for long periods of time .
My only complaint is that there 's no backlight or anything... It would have been nice if they 'd embedded a little LED somewhere on the thing , so I could read in low-light conditions easier .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My Brother-in-Law has a Kindle.
The main reason he uses it is it's a lot easier to read text on the Kindle's LCD than on a computer LCD as there is no refresh rate on the Kindle.
The screen refreshes only when you turn a page, which makes it easier on the eyes than a 60Hz computer LCD display.Also, Blio on PC, Mac, iPhone and iPod touch, but no Linux?
WTF?I've been reading ebooks for years now...Originally on a Handspring Visor [wikipedia.org], then on a Palm m505 [wikipedia.org], then on my desktop and laptop using various ereader programs, then on a Dell mini 9 [wikipedia.org]...  I've used LCDs and CRTs both.I just recently picked up a nook and I have to say it is the easiest screen to read on so far.
Much easier on the eyes.I can read for hours and hours with no more eyestrain than if I was reading a paper book.
The e-ink display is definitely superior to any CRT or LCD I've ever read for long periods of time.
My only complaint is that there's no backlight or anything...  It would have been nice if they'd embedded a little LED somewhere on the thing, so I could read in low-light conditions easier.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30655998</id>
	<title>blame the publishers</title>
	<author>Lord Ender</author>
	<datestamp>1262711880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't blame the Kindle for DRM. Blame the book publishers. The Kindle works fine with or without DRM. Unfortunately, publishers are only releasing their content with DRM, so any ebook reader which lacks DRM support is certain to fail (including this one).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't blame the Kindle for DRM .
Blame the book publishers .
The Kindle works fine with or without DRM .
Unfortunately , publishers are only releasing their content with DRM , so any ebook reader which lacks DRM support is certain to fail ( including this one ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't blame the Kindle for DRM.
Blame the book publishers.
The Kindle works fine with or without DRM.
Unfortunately, publishers are only releasing their content with DRM, so any ebook reader which lacks DRM support is certain to fail (including this one).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30658560</id>
	<title>Re:Does Kurzweil get the idea of an e-Reader?</title>
	<author>hey!</author>
	<datestamp>1262720880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually, I've got a Kindle and an iPod with the Amazon reader software, and it's not so cut and dry as you make it out.</p><p>Yes, in many, many situations the Kindle is ergonomically better. Bright ambient light is on obvious example (although an anti-glare coating would have been nice). There's battery life perhaps, which may be marginally better on the Kindle, although I usually don't run into that limit.  Truthfully, I think much of the Kindles advantage is that it has more text area.</p><p>There is the flip side, which is that the iPod is better in low light. It's better for reading in bed, for example. The Kindle's buttons are stiff and *loud*, which annoys your spouse. And there is the inexplicable design fault of the Kindle which is that it's just a PITA to page through documents.  The iPod finger swipe is just a lot nicer. In part that's enabled by the LCD touch screen, but the whole next page/previous page/back button layout on the Kindle is awkward and unintuitive. If they'd only adopted a convention, like  "the next page is left and the previous page is right", then laid their buttons out accordingly, that'd be a lot cleaner.  Then you'd have "next document/previous document keys laid out analogously but in a distinct location so you couldn't mix them up.</p><p>I find that mathematics tends to render more correctly on the iPod.  I have some documents with matrices, and the kindle puts the rows and columns of the matrices all over the place, where the very same document on the iPod is correctly rendered.</p><p>In any case, the software makes a big difference in the experience, it's just when it gets it right it you don't notice it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , I 've got a Kindle and an iPod with the Amazon reader software , and it 's not so cut and dry as you make it out.Yes , in many , many situations the Kindle is ergonomically better .
Bright ambient light is on obvious example ( although an anti-glare coating would have been nice ) .
There 's battery life perhaps , which may be marginally better on the Kindle , although I usually do n't run into that limit .
Truthfully , I think much of the Kindles advantage is that it has more text area.There is the flip side , which is that the iPod is better in low light .
It 's better for reading in bed , for example .
The Kindle 's buttons are stiff and * loud * , which annoys your spouse .
And there is the inexplicable design fault of the Kindle which is that it 's just a PITA to page through documents .
The iPod finger swipe is just a lot nicer .
In part that 's enabled by the LCD touch screen , but the whole next page/previous page/back button layout on the Kindle is awkward and unintuitive .
If they 'd only adopted a convention , like " the next page is left and the previous page is right " , then laid their buttons out accordingly , that 'd be a lot cleaner .
Then you 'd have " next document/previous document keys laid out analogously but in a distinct location so you could n't mix them up.I find that mathematics tends to render more correctly on the iPod .
I have some documents with matrices , and the kindle puts the rows and columns of the matrices all over the place , where the very same document on the iPod is correctly rendered.In any case , the software makes a big difference in the experience , it 's just when it gets it right it you do n't notice it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, I've got a Kindle and an iPod with the Amazon reader software, and it's not so cut and dry as you make it out.Yes, in many, many situations the Kindle is ergonomically better.
Bright ambient light is on obvious example (although an anti-glare coating would have been nice).
There's battery life perhaps, which may be marginally better on the Kindle, although I usually don't run into that limit.
Truthfully, I think much of the Kindles advantage is that it has more text area.There is the flip side, which is that the iPod is better in low light.
It's better for reading in bed, for example.
The Kindle's buttons are stiff and *loud*, which annoys your spouse.
And there is the inexplicable design fault of the Kindle which is that it's just a PITA to page through documents.
The iPod finger swipe is just a lot nicer.
In part that's enabled by the LCD touch screen, but the whole next page/previous page/back button layout on the Kindle is awkward and unintuitive.
If they'd only adopted a convention, like  "the next page is left and the previous page is right", then laid their buttons out accordingly, that'd be a lot cleaner.
Then you'd have "next document/previous document keys laid out analogously but in a distinct location so you couldn't mix them up.I find that mathematics tends to render more correctly on the iPod.
I have some documents with matrices, and the kindle puts the rows and columns of the matrices all over the place, where the very same document on the iPod is correctly rendered.In any case, the software makes a big difference in the experience, it's just when it gets it right it you don't notice it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_1433223.30655348</id>
	<title>Um, that's great and all...</title>
	<author>Phroggy</author>
	<datestamp>1262709360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...but the Kindle is a <b>hardware</b> platform.  It's the hardware that makes it compelling, not the software.  If you don't care about the hardware, and are only interested in the content, then all you're really looking for is an alternative to Amazon's e-book store - not an alternative to the Kindle.</p><p>In fact, hold</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...but the Kindle is a hardware platform .
It 's the hardware that makes it compelling , not the software .
If you do n't care about the hardware , and are only interested in the content , then all you 're really looking for is an alternative to Amazon 's e-book store - not an alternative to the Kindle.In fact , hold</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...but the Kindle is a hardware platform.
It's the hardware that makes it compelling, not the software.
If you don't care about the hardware, and are only interested in the content, then all you're really looking for is an alternative to Amazon's e-book store - not an alternative to the Kindle.In fact, hold</sentencetext>
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