<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_01_05_006243</id>
	<title>New Pi Computation Record Using a Desktop PC</title>
	<author>kdawson</author>
	<datestamp>1262720100000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>hint3 writes <i>"<a href="http://bellard.org/">Fabrice Bellard</a> has <a href="http://bellard.org/pi/pi2700e9/">calculated Pi to about 2.7 trillion decimal digits</a>, besting the <a href="http://science.slashdot.org/story/09/08/19/2249242/Pi-Calculated-To-Record-25-Trillion-Digits">previous record</a> by over 120 billion digits. While the improvement may seem small, it is an outstanding achievement because only a single desktop PC, costing less than $3,000, was used &mdash; instead of a multi-million dollar supercomputer as in the previous records."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>hint3 writes " Fabrice Bellard has calculated Pi to about 2.7 trillion decimal digits , besting the previous record by over 120 billion digits .
While the improvement may seem small , it is an outstanding achievement because only a single desktop PC , costing less than $ 3,000 , was used    instead of a multi-million dollar supercomputer as in the previous records .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>hint3 writes "Fabrice Bellard has calculated Pi to about 2.7 trillion decimal digits, besting the previous record by over 120 billion digits.
While the improvement may seem small, it is an outstanding achievement because only a single desktop PC, costing less than $3,000, was used — instead of a multi-million dollar supercomputer as in the previous records.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30655832</id>
	<title>Thumbs Up, Fabrice!</title>
	<author>cfriedt</author>
	<datestamp>1262711220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Fabrice Bellard continues to amaze me.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Fabrice Bellard continues to amaze me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Fabrice Bellard continues to amaze me.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30652334</id>
	<title>So... umm...</title>
	<author>Opportunist</author>
	<datestamp>1262682000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, 'til now I saw the Pi-calculating e-peen waving as something like basic research. Ya know, where you build better computers and then you don't find anything sensible to do with them, so let's have them, say, find the next big prime (ok, being in cryptography I can see an application for that...) or have them calculate Pi to another few more billion spaces. Ya know, something that takes ages and is a great burn-in test.</p><p>This time it's not a better computer. He used an existing computer and (again, I have to say) found a better algorithm for something. A better algo that made better use of the architecture. And while great, it does not really serve any purpose, unless knowing Pi to another few more billion spaces actually is a purpose.</p><p>Could someone fill me in what purpose that may be?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , 'til now I saw the Pi-calculating e-peen waving as something like basic research .
Ya know , where you build better computers and then you do n't find anything sensible to do with them , so let 's have them , say , find the next big prime ( ok , being in cryptography I can see an application for that... ) or have them calculate Pi to another few more billion spaces .
Ya know , something that takes ages and is a great burn-in test.This time it 's not a better computer .
He used an existing computer and ( again , I have to say ) found a better algorithm for something .
A better algo that made better use of the architecture .
And while great , it does not really serve any purpose , unless knowing Pi to another few more billion spaces actually is a purpose.Could someone fill me in what purpose that may be ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, 'til now I saw the Pi-calculating e-peen waving as something like basic research.
Ya know, where you build better computers and then you don't find anything sensible to do with them, so let's have them, say, find the next big prime (ok, being in cryptography I can see an application for that...) or have them calculate Pi to another few more billion spaces.
Ya know, something that takes ages and is a great burn-in test.This time it's not a better computer.
He used an existing computer and (again, I have to say) found a better algorithm for something.
A better algo that made better use of the architecture.
And while great, it does not really serve any purpose, unless knowing Pi to another few more billion spaces actually is a purpose.Could someone fill me in what purpose that may be?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30653234</id>
	<title>Re:silly</title>
	<author>krou</author>
	<datestamp>1262692920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I thought it was 42 digits?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I thought it was 42 digits ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I thought it was 42 digits?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30652628</id>
	<title>Too bad...</title>
	<author>hallux.sinister</author>
	<datestamp>1262685240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Only another four hundred billion decimal places, and they would have found the last one!
<p>
~Hal</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Only another four hundred billion decimal places , and they would have found the last one !
~ Hal</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Only another four hundred billion decimal places, and they would have found the last one!
~Hal</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30652782</id>
	<title>Re:silly</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262686740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Knowing how to calculate the nth digit of Pi itself is slightly retarded.</p><p>The observable universe is about 50 billion light years across, which is about 4.27 * 10^26 meters.  If we take a ring of atoms each roughly 1 Angstrom (10^-10 meters) apart with a diameter the size of the observable universe and want to determine the circumference of the resulting circle, then knowing Pi to 40 or so places is sufficient that the error caused by the atoms themselves is greater than that introduced by using an approximate value for Pi.  Knowing Pi to 40 or so places is sufficient that you can calculate the difference in circumferences of the inner diameter of the ring and outer diameter of the ring.</p><p>Knowing Pi to 40 places is basically sufficient for describing our entire universe and anything you could put into it.  We've known the first 35 for four hundred years, and we've never needed that much information to describe our universe.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Knowing how to calculate the nth digit of Pi itself is slightly retarded.The observable universe is about 50 billion light years across , which is about 4.27 * 10 ^ 26 meters .
If we take a ring of atoms each roughly 1 Angstrom ( 10 ^ -10 meters ) apart with a diameter the size of the observable universe and want to determine the circumference of the resulting circle , then knowing Pi to 40 or so places is sufficient that the error caused by the atoms themselves is greater than that introduced by using an approximate value for Pi .
Knowing Pi to 40 or so places is sufficient that you can calculate the difference in circumferences of the inner diameter of the ring and outer diameter of the ring.Knowing Pi to 40 places is basically sufficient for describing our entire universe and anything you could put into it .
We 've known the first 35 for four hundred years , and we 've never needed that much information to describe our universe .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Knowing how to calculate the nth digit of Pi itself is slightly retarded.The observable universe is about 50 billion light years across, which is about 4.27 * 10^26 meters.
If we take a ring of atoms each roughly 1 Angstrom (10^-10 meters) apart with a diameter the size of the observable universe and want to determine the circumference of the resulting circle, then knowing Pi to 40 or so places is sufficient that the error caused by the atoms themselves is greater than that introduced by using an approximate value for Pi.
Knowing Pi to 40 or so places is sufficient that you can calculate the difference in circumferences of the inner diameter of the ring and outer diameter of the ring.Knowing Pi to 40 places is basically sufficient for describing our entire universe and anything you could put into it.
We've known the first 35 for four hundred years, and we've never needed that much information to describe our universe.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30654232</id>
	<title>Re:Did he find a message?</title>
	<author>ceoyoyo</author>
	<datestamp>1262703960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In any large enough collection of random numbers you will be guaranteed to find whatever pattern you're looking for, whether it's a hundred thousand zeros in a row or the text of the collected works of Shakespeare.  You can test statistically how likely you are to find particular patterns in a collection of numbers of a particular size though.</p><p>Finding patterns can be hard.  If you have an idea of what you're looking for you can do much better than if you just want to find any pattern.  SETI at Home has a page about what they look for: <a href="http://seticlassic.ssl.berkeley.edu/about\_seti/about\_seti\_at\_home\_4.html" title="berkeley.edu">http://seticlassic.ssl.berkeley.edu/about\_seti/about\_seti\_at\_home\_4.html</a> [berkeley.edu]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In any large enough collection of random numbers you will be guaranteed to find whatever pattern you 're looking for , whether it 's a hundred thousand zeros in a row or the text of the collected works of Shakespeare .
You can test statistically how likely you are to find particular patterns in a collection of numbers of a particular size though.Finding patterns can be hard .
If you have an idea of what you 're looking for you can do much better than if you just want to find any pattern .
SETI at Home has a page about what they look for : http : //seticlassic.ssl.berkeley.edu/about \ _seti/about \ _seti \ _at \ _home \ _4.html [ berkeley.edu ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In any large enough collection of random numbers you will be guaranteed to find whatever pattern you're looking for, whether it's a hundred thousand zeros in a row or the text of the collected works of Shakespeare.
You can test statistically how likely you are to find particular patterns in a collection of numbers of a particular size though.Finding patterns can be hard.
If you have an idea of what you're looking for you can do much better than if you just want to find any pattern.
SETI at Home has a page about what they look for: http://seticlassic.ssl.berkeley.edu/about\_seti/about\_seti\_at\_home\_4.html [berkeley.edu]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30652280</id>
	<title>this guy has a pretty impressive track record</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262724420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For those not previously familiar with Fabrice Bellard, he's known for:</p><ul><li> <a href="http://bellard.org/lzexe.html" title="bellard.org">LZEXE</a> [bellard.org], very popular in the early 1990s as the first EXE-shrinker for DOS, or at least the first widely available one</li><li> <a href="http://ffmpeg.org/" title="ffmpeg.org">ffmpeg</a> [ffmpeg.org], video decoding library which he started and headed for a number of years</li><li> <a href="http://www.nongnu.org/qemu/" title="nongnu.org">QEMU</a> [nongnu.org], dynamic-translating generic emulator</li></ul></htmltext>
<tokenext>For those not previously familiar with Fabrice Bellard , he 's known for : LZEXE [ bellard.org ] , very popular in the early 1990s as the first EXE-shrinker for DOS , or at least the first widely available one ffmpeg [ ffmpeg.org ] , video decoding library which he started and headed for a number of years QEMU [ nongnu.org ] , dynamic-translating generic emulator</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For those not previously familiar with Fabrice Bellard, he's known for: LZEXE [bellard.org], very popular in the early 1990s as the first EXE-shrinker for DOS, or at least the first widely available one ffmpeg [ffmpeg.org], video decoding library which he started and headed for a number of years QEMU [nongnu.org], dynamic-translating generic emulator</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30652848</id>
	<title>Re:Did he find a message?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262687340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>You must be a LISP programmer (or am I mistaken?)</htmltext>
<tokenext>You must be a LISP programmer ( or am I mistaken ?
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You must be a LISP programmer (or am I mistaken?
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30652884</id>
	<title>Anyone tried this on Maple?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262688060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Has anyone tried to calculate PI to an ungodly precision on Maple/Mathematica/Mathlab/Macsyma/etc.?</p><p>I wonder if it is even possible on a computer of this guy's specs?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Has anyone tried to calculate PI to an ungodly precision on Maple/Mathematica/Mathlab/Macsyma/etc .
? I wonder if it is even possible on a computer of this guy 's specs ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Has anyone tried to calculate PI to an ungodly precision on Maple/Mathematica/Mathlab/Macsyma/etc.
?I wonder if it is even possible on a computer of this guy's specs?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30652562</id>
	<title>not something revolutionary</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262684400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>from the article :</p><p>Technologies relevant to the objectives of the TX program can be found in numerous disciplines and areas of research including: adaptive wing structures, ducted fan propulsion, lightweight composite materials, advanced flight control technology for stable transition from vertical to horizontal flight, hybrid electric drive, advanced batteries, and others.</p><p>so no, they didn't waterboard the greenies<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:(</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>from the article : Technologies relevant to the objectives of the TX program can be found in numerous disciplines and areas of research including : adaptive wing structures , ducted fan propulsion , lightweight composite materials , advanced flight control technology for stable transition from vertical to horizontal flight , hybrid electric drive , advanced batteries , and others.so no , they did n't waterboard the greenies : (</tokentext>
<sentencetext>from the article :Technologies relevant to the objectives of the TX program can be found in numerous disciplines and areas of research including: adaptive wing structures, ducted fan propulsion, lightweight composite materials, advanced flight control technology for stable transition from vertical to horizontal flight, hybrid electric drive, advanced batteries, and others.so no, they didn't waterboard the greenies :(</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30653252</id>
	<title>So, how do you calculate Pi?  Seriously</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262693040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Pi = C/d,  a circle's circumference divided by its diameter.</p><p>So, how do you calculate Pi to X digits?<br>You can't measure the circle's C and d to X digits (where X is sufficiently large).<br>You'll eventually hit a significant digits limitation if you try to compute Pi from the standard formula.</p><p>So, how do you compute Pi to X digits?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Pi = C/d , a circle 's circumference divided by its diameter.So , how do you calculate Pi to X digits ? You ca n't measure the circle 's C and d to X digits ( where X is sufficiently large ) .You 'll eventually hit a significant digits limitation if you try to compute Pi from the standard formula.So , how do you compute Pi to X digits ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pi = C/d,  a circle's circumference divided by its diameter.So, how do you calculate Pi to X digits?You can't measure the circle's C and d to X digits (where X is sufficiently large).You'll eventually hit a significant digits limitation if you try to compute Pi from the standard formula.So, how do you compute Pi to X digits?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30652758</id>
	<title>Re:Finally!</title>
	<author>asc99c</author>
	<datestamp>1262686500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You'd also need something to prop up the other end of the new extended screen to display the number - Venus should be in about the right place when it gets a bit closer!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 'd also need something to prop up the other end of the new extended screen to display the number - Venus should be in about the right place when it gets a bit closer !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You'd also need something to prop up the other end of the new extended screen to display the number - Venus should be in about the right place when it gets a bit closer!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30653042</id>
	<title>Re:fabrice BELLARD</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262690160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>its just how the french do it. Kinda makes it easier to work out which is the sirname</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>its just how the french do it .
Kinda makes it easier to work out which is the sirname</tokentext>
<sentencetext>its just how the french do it.
Kinda makes it easier to work out which is the sirname</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30652224</id>
	<title>Verification</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262723880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I didn't read the article, only the summery but it made me wonder.</p><p>Do they verify these numbers somehow?<br>Anyone can write down a series of a numbers and claim it's a specific sequence.</p><p>Not saying these numbers aren't correct, just a thought.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I did n't read the article , only the summery but it made me wonder.Do they verify these numbers somehow ? Anyone can write down a series of a numbers and claim it 's a specific sequence.Not saying these numbers are n't correct , just a thought .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I didn't read the article, only the summery but it made me wonder.Do they verify these numbers somehow?Anyone can write down a series of a numbers and claim it's a specific sequence.Not saying these numbers aren't correct, just a thought.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30653382</id>
	<title>Re:fabrice BELLARD</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262694540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Anyway, what's with surnames spelled in caps ?</p></div><p>It's a convention that's used to indicate which name is the surname.</p><p>It's widely used in the orient and in genealogy. I use it too on occasion.</p><p>-Anonymous COWARD</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Anyway , what 's with surnames spelled in caps ? It 's a convention that 's used to indicate which name is the surname.It 's widely used in the orient and in genealogy .
I use it too on occasion.-Anonymous COWARD</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anyway, what's with surnames spelled in caps ?It's a convention that's used to indicate which name is the surname.It's widely used in the orient and in genealogy.
I use it too on occasion.-Anonymous COWARD
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30652674</id>
	<title>Re:Pattern?</title>
	<author>Anubis IV</author>
	<datestamp>1262685720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's pi, man. There <i>are</i> no patterns.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's pi , man .
There are no patterns .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's pi, man.
There are no patterns.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30658018</id>
	<title>Re:silly</title>
	<author>sproingie</author>
	<datestamp>1262718540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Angstroms are awful big.  Just for the sake of maximum precision, how many digits would you need if you were measuring in planck lengths?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Angstroms are awful big .
Just for the sake of maximum precision , how many digits would you need if you were measuring in planck lengths ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Angstroms are awful big.
Just for the sake of maximum precision, how many digits would you need if you were measuring in planck lengths?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30654070</id>
	<title>No ECC RAM!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262703000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>From TFA's technical notes:  "<i>Unfortunately, the RAM had no ECC (Error Correcting Code), so random bit errors could not be corrected nor detected. Since the computation lasted more than 100 days, such errors were likely [12].</i>"
<br> <br>
Great we have all these digits, but they're mostly useless bits and their reliability is suspect.</htmltext>
<tokenext>From TFA 's technical notes : " Unfortunately , the RAM had no ECC ( Error Correcting Code ) , so random bit errors could not be corrected nor detected .
Since the computation lasted more than 100 days , such errors were likely [ 12 ] .
" Great we have all these digits , but they 're mostly useless bits and their reliability is suspect .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From TFA's technical notes:  "Unfortunately, the RAM had no ECC (Error Correcting Code), so random bit errors could not be corrected nor detected.
Since the computation lasted more than 100 days, such errors were likely [12].
"
 
Great we have all these digits, but they're mostly useless bits and their reliability is suspect.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30652332</id>
	<title>silly</title>
	<author>dsanfte</author>
	<datestamp>1262682000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There is an algorithm now for calculating the nth digit of Pi at a whim.</p><p>This is slightly retarded.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There is an algorithm now for calculating the nth digit of Pi at a whim.This is slightly retarded .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is an algorithm now for calculating the nth digit of Pi at a whim.This is slightly retarded.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30654048</id>
	<title>Re:fabrice BELLARD</title>
	<author>sfsp</author>
	<datestamp>1262702820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, he developed lzexe, and other stuff.</p><p>Using CAPS to designate the surname or family name is common usage in several international communities, especially those that have members which are from cultures which put the family name first.</p><p>I have seen it frequently in Esperanto forums.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , he developed lzexe , and other stuff.Using CAPS to designate the surname or family name is common usage in several international communities , especially those that have members which are from cultures which put the family name first.I have seen it frequently in Esperanto forums .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, he developed lzexe, and other stuff.Using CAPS to designate the surname or family name is common usage in several international communities, especially those that have members which are from cultures which put the family name first.I have seen it frequently in Esperanto forums.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30652454</id>
	<title>Re:Finally!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262683380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Too bad you'll need to upgrade your TI-83 to about 1.2TB of storage space to manipulate the number! And I hope you have some AAs that can last a few years under load...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Too bad you 'll need to upgrade your TI-83 to about 1.2TB of storage space to manipulate the number !
And I hope you have some AAs that can last a few years under load.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Too bad you'll need to upgrade your TI-83 to about 1.2TB of storage space to manipulate the number!
And I hope you have some AAs that can last a few years under load...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30653090</id>
	<title>easy</title>
	<author>Tjebbe</author>
	<datestamp>1262690820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have just calculated a digit that's much further. It's 7, and it's somewhere around the 8 trillionth decimal. Give or take a few.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have just calculated a digit that 's much further .
It 's 7 , and it 's somewhere around the 8 trillionth decimal .
Give or take a few .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have just calculated a digit that's much further.
It's 7, and it's somewhere around the 8 trillionth decimal.
Give or take a few.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30653284</id>
	<title>Re:silly</title>
	<author>Whiteox</author>
	<datestamp>1262693400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Knowing Pi to 40 or so places</p> </div><p>Face it, we all should know by now it's <b>42</b></p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Knowing Pi to 40 or so places Face it , we all should know by now it 's 42</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Knowing Pi to 40 or so places Face it, we all should know by now it's 42
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30653756</id>
	<title>Re:Verification</title>
	<author>Terje Mathisen</author>
	<datestamp>1262700120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Verification as actually quite easy, due to the (totally unexpected at the time!) discovery of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bailey&ndash;Borwein&ndash;Plouffe\_formula" title="wikipedia.org">Borwein-Bailey-Plouffe</a> [wikipedia.org] algorithm which allows you to directly calculate the N'th hexadecimal digit of pi, without having to determine any other digits.</p><p>He used this on a bunch of the last digits and they all came out correct, which makes the probability of an error extremely small.</p><p>Last year I used his algorithm to calculate 1e9 (i.e. a US billion) digits of pi and made them searchable:</p><p><a href="http://tmsw.no/pi-search/" title="tmsw.no">http://tmsw.no/pi-search/</a> [tmsw.no]</p><p>Try to enter any string of digits, like a full 8-digit birth day: The odds are good that pi-search will locate it somewhere.</p><p>Terje</p><p>PS. Yes, I did use his table just now to verify that my own digits are correct.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Verification as actually quite easy , due to the ( totally unexpected at the time !
) discovery of the Borwein-Bailey-Plouffe [ wikipedia.org ] algorithm which allows you to directly calculate the N'th hexadecimal digit of pi , without having to determine any other digits.He used this on a bunch of the last digits and they all came out correct , which makes the probability of an error extremely small.Last year I used his algorithm to calculate 1e9 ( i.e .
a US billion ) digits of pi and made them searchable : http : //tmsw.no/pi-search/ [ tmsw.no ] Try to enter any string of digits , like a full 8-digit birth day : The odds are good that pi-search will locate it somewhere.TerjePS .
Yes , I did use his table just now to verify that my own digits are correct .
: - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Verification as actually quite easy, due to the (totally unexpected at the time!
) discovery of the Borwein-Bailey-Plouffe [wikipedia.org] algorithm which allows you to directly calculate the N'th hexadecimal digit of pi, without having to determine any other digits.He used this on a bunch of the last digits and they all came out correct, which makes the probability of an error extremely small.Last year I used his algorithm to calculate 1e9 (i.e.
a US billion) digits of pi and made them searchable:http://tmsw.no/pi-search/ [tmsw.no]Try to enter any string of digits, like a full 8-digit birth day: The odds are good that pi-search will locate it somewhere.TerjePS.
Yes, I did use his table just now to verify that my own digits are correct.
:-)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30652444</id>
	<title>Re:Verification</title>
	<author>David Jao</author>
	<datestamp>1262683200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I didn't read the article, only the summery but it made me wonder.</p><p>Do they verify these numbers somehow?
Anyone can write down a series of a numbers and claim it's a specific sequence.</p><p>Not saying these numbers aren't correct, just a thought.</p></div><p>Perhaps this is why you should read the article. The <a href="http://bellard.org/pi/pi2700e9/announce.html" title="bellard.org">press release</a> [bellard.org] answers this question directly.
</p><blockquote><div><p>The binary result was verified with a formula found by the author with the Bailey-Borwein-Plouffe algorithm which directly gives the n'th hexadecimal digits of Pi. With this algorithm, the last 50 hexadecimal digits of the binary result were checked. A checksum modulo a 64 bit prime number done in the last multiplication of the Chudnovsky formula evaluation ensured a negligible probability of error.
</p><p>
The conversion from binary to base 10 was verified with a checksum modulo a 64 bit prime number.</p></div>
</blockquote></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I did n't read the article , only the summery but it made me wonder.Do they verify these numbers somehow ?
Anyone can write down a series of a numbers and claim it 's a specific sequence.Not saying these numbers are n't correct , just a thought.Perhaps this is why you should read the article .
The press release [ bellard.org ] answers this question directly .
The binary result was verified with a formula found by the author with the Bailey-Borwein-Plouffe algorithm which directly gives the n'th hexadecimal digits of Pi .
With this algorithm , the last 50 hexadecimal digits of the binary result were checked .
A checksum modulo a 64 bit prime number done in the last multiplication of the Chudnovsky formula evaluation ensured a negligible probability of error .
The conversion from binary to base 10 was verified with a checksum modulo a 64 bit prime number .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I didn't read the article, only the summery but it made me wonder.Do they verify these numbers somehow?
Anyone can write down a series of a numbers and claim it's a specific sequence.Not saying these numbers aren't correct, just a thought.Perhaps this is why you should read the article.
The press release [bellard.org] answers this question directly.
The binary result was verified with a formula found by the author with the Bailey-Borwein-Plouffe algorithm which directly gives the n'th hexadecimal digits of Pi.
With this algorithm, the last 50 hexadecimal digits of the binary result were checked.
A checksum modulo a 64 bit prime number done in the last multiplication of the Chudnovsky formula evaluation ensured a negligible probability of error.
The conversion from binary to base 10 was verified with a checksum modulo a 64 bit prime number.

	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30653428</id>
	<title>Re:this guy has a pretty impressive track record</title>
	<author>Rapha222</author>
	<datestamp>1262695140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Does this guy is God ?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does this guy is God ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does this guy is God ?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30652584</id>
	<title>Pattern?</title>
	<author>Silpher</author>
	<datestamp>1262684640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you would put the outcomes in a graph would a pattern arise? If there is a predictable pattern perhaps computation could go a lot faster, but then I guess they would have figured that out by now. ( Or maybe I should call him?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:P )</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you would put the outcomes in a graph would a pattern arise ?
If there is a predictable pattern perhaps computation could go a lot faster , but then I guess they would have figured that out by now .
( Or maybe I should call him ?
: P )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you would put the outcomes in a graph would a pattern arise?
If there is a predictable pattern perhaps computation could go a lot faster, but then I guess they would have figured that out by now.
( Or maybe I should call him?
:P )</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30652232</id>
	<title>Thats nice and all...</title>
	<author>fliptw</author>
	<datestamp>1262723940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>But will it help us in getting flying cars?</htmltext>
<tokenext>But will it help us in getting flying cars ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But will it help us in getting flying cars?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30653040</id>
	<title>Re:fabrice BELLARD</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262690160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's a French tradition to do so.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's a French tradition to do so .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's a French tradition to do so.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30655152</id>
	<title>Re:silly</title>
	<author>Stooshie</author>
	<datestamp>1262708580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That is a great engineering answer. Technically correct and calculated all the factors brilliantly.<br>
<br>
However Pi is not just used for measuring physical objects.<br>
<br>
<br>
An engineer, a physicist, and a mathematician were on a train heading north, and had just crossed the border into Scotland.<br>
<br>
The engineer looked out of the window and said "Look! Scottish sheep are black!"<br>
The physicist said, "No, no. Some Scottish sheep are black."<br>
The mathematician looked irritated. "There is at least one field, containing at least one sheep, of which at least one side is black."</htmltext>
<tokenext>That is a great engineering answer .
Technically correct and calculated all the factors brilliantly .
However Pi is not just used for measuring physical objects .
An engineer , a physicist , and a mathematician were on a train heading north , and had just crossed the border into Scotland .
The engineer looked out of the window and said " Look !
Scottish sheep are black !
" The physicist said , " No , no .
Some Scottish sheep are black .
" The mathematician looked irritated .
" There is at least one field , containing at least one sheep , of which at least one side is black .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That is a great engineering answer.
Technically correct and calculated all the factors brilliantly.
However Pi is not just used for measuring physical objects.
An engineer, a physicist, and a mathematician were on a train heading north, and had just crossed the border into Scotland.
The engineer looked out of the window and said "Look!
Scottish sheep are black!
"
The physicist said, "No, no.
Some Scottish sheep are black.
"
The mathematician looked irritated.
"There is at least one field, containing at least one sheep, of which at least one side is black.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30652550</id>
	<title>Re:So... umm...</title>
	<author>msclrhd</author>
	<datestamp>1262684340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Improving the algorithms for arbitrary precision arithmetic -- that is the area that Fabrice is interested in, not necessarily computing X number of digits of pi. That, and (a) it is interesting, (b) it is a challenge and (c) let's do it for fun.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Improving the algorithms for arbitrary precision arithmetic -- that is the area that Fabrice is interested in , not necessarily computing X number of digits of pi .
That , and ( a ) it is interesting , ( b ) it is a challenge and ( c ) let 's do it for fun .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Improving the algorithms for arbitrary precision arithmetic -- that is the area that Fabrice is interested in, not necessarily computing X number of digits of pi.
That, and (a) it is interesting, (b) it is a challenge and (c) let's do it for fun.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30653008</id>
	<title>Re:Finally!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262689620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>yeah, better not use the TI-83 then,  because of the lack of a usb port.  it would take some heave cracking to get an external hard drive through that minijack.  I'd recommend the TI-89 since it's got a mini usb port.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>yeah , better not use the TI-83 then , because of the lack of a usb port .
it would take some heave cracking to get an external hard drive through that minijack .
I 'd recommend the TI-89 since it 's got a mini usb port .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>yeah, better not use the TI-83 then,  because of the lack of a usb port.
it would take some heave cracking to get an external hard drive through that minijack.
I'd recommend the TI-89 since it's got a mini usb port.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30653134</id>
	<title>Re:silly</title>
	<author>AlecC</author>
	<datestamp>1262691540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And he used that algorithm to verify his result by checking the last 50 digits.But, presumably, the algorithm he used for calculating the whole block is faster than this arbitrary algorithm, so it would not have generated his billions of digits in the time he has actually taken. The achievement is to calculate all those digits on relatively low powered hardware, not any particular bits.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And he used that algorithm to verify his result by checking the last 50 digits.But , presumably , the algorithm he used for calculating the whole block is faster than this arbitrary algorithm , so it would not have generated his billions of digits in the time he has actually taken .
The achievement is to calculate all those digits on relatively low powered hardware , not any particular bits .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And he used that algorithm to verify his result by checking the last 50 digits.But, presumably, the algorithm he used for calculating the whole block is faster than this arbitrary algorithm, so it would not have generated his billions of digits in the time he has actually taken.
The achievement is to calculate all those digits on relatively low powered hardware, not any particular bits.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30652274</id>
	<title>Wow...</title>
	<author>LostCluster</author>
	<datestamp>1262724360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They figured this out... they post some, not all of the data, and therefore survive the slashdotting.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They figured this out... they post some , not all of the data , and therefore survive the slashdotting .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They figured this out... they post some, not all of the data, and therefore survive the slashdotting.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30656304</id>
	<title>A thought</title>
	<author>marqs</author>
	<datestamp>1262712960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why not use PI as radix?<br>
Then we could all have the joy of finding unlimited decimal to all of our everyday counting<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)<br>
Guess you could count just fine from 0 to 3. Perhaps a bit longer if my calculations are correct<br>
3.1 ~ 3 + 1/pi^2  pi so there the problems start.
<br> <br>
Now imagin the hassel to work out if you can fit four passengers in your car...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why not use PI as radix ?
Then we could all have the joy of finding unlimited decimal to all of our everyday counting : ) Guess you could count just fine from 0 to 3 .
Perhaps a bit longer if my calculations are correct 3.1 ~ 3 + 1/pi ^ 2 pi so there the problems start .
Now imagin the hassel to work out if you can fit four passengers in your car.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why not use PI as radix?
Then we could all have the joy of finding unlimited decimal to all of our everyday counting :)
Guess you could count just fine from 0 to 3.
Perhaps a bit longer if my calculations are correct
3.1 ~ 3 + 1/pi^2  pi so there the problems start.
Now imagin the hassel to work out if you can fit four passengers in your car...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30653138</id>
	<title>I guess that's a</title>
	<author>Dunbal</author>
	<datestamp>1262691720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Fundamental difference between pure mathematicians and physicists/engineers. Haven't these people ever heard of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Significant\_figures" title="wikipedia.org">significance</a> [wikipedia.org]? I mean, apart from sheer nerd value, this has absolutely no worth to science or humanity.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Fundamental difference between pure mathematicians and physicists/engineers .
Have n't these people ever heard of significance [ wikipedia.org ] ?
I mean , apart from sheer nerd value , this has absolutely no worth to science or humanity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Fundamental difference between pure mathematicians and physicists/engineers.
Haven't these people ever heard of significance [wikipedia.org]?
I mean, apart from sheer nerd value, this has absolutely no worth to science or humanity.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30652474</id>
	<title>So....</title>
	<author>WillyDavidK</author>
	<datestamp>1262683500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>So what exactly has been accomplished here?</htmltext>
<tokenext>So what exactly has been accomplished here ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So what exactly has been accomplished here?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30652822</id>
	<title>fabrice BELLARD</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262687040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wasn't he the guy who developed lzexe ?</p><p>Anyway, what's with surnames spelled in caps ? Does he say "I am fabrice" and then he screams "BELLARD" when stating his name ?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Was n't he the guy who developed lzexe ? Anyway , what 's with surnames spelled in caps ?
Does he say " I am fabrice " and then he screams " BELLARD " when stating his name ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wasn't he the guy who developed lzexe ?Anyway, what's with surnames spelled in caps ?
Does he say "I am fabrice" and then he screams "BELLARD" when stating his name ?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30652792</id>
	<title>In others news, SuperPi 1M in less than 7 seconds</title>
	<author>majorme</author>
	<datestamp>1262686740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Intel's new CPUs can <a href="http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/cpu/intel/clarkdale/1m6g.jpg" title="anandtech.com" rel="nofollow">calculate SuperPi 1M in less than 7 seconds</a> [anandtech.com] when clocked at 6234.8MHz</htmltext>
<tokenext>Intel 's new CPUs can calculate SuperPi 1M in less than 7 seconds [ anandtech.com ] when clocked at 6234.8MHz</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Intel's new CPUs can calculate SuperPi 1M in less than 7 seconds [anandtech.com] when clocked at 6234.8MHz</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30655252</id>
	<title>Re:Did he find a message?</title>
	<author>Stooshie</author>
	<datestamp>1262709000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"(if you can call 2.7 trillion finite!)"<br>
<br>
erm, by definition it is finite!<br>
<br>
Interestingly, if someone has 2.7 trillion digits of Pi stored on their hard drive, they could actually have more than just a message. The may, unwittingly, be in possession of material that breaks copyright law!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</htmltext>
<tokenext>" ( if you can call 2.7 trillion finite !
) " erm , by definition it is finite !
Interestingly , if someone has 2.7 trillion digits of Pi stored on their hard drive , they could actually have more than just a message .
The may , unwittingly , be in possession of material that breaks copyright law !
: - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"(if you can call 2.7 trillion finite!
)"

erm, by definition it is finite!
Interestingly, if someone has 2.7 trillion digits of Pi stored on their hard drive, they could actually have more than just a message.
The may, unwittingly, be in possession of material that breaks copyright law!
:-)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30654152</id>
	<title>Euler's identity</title>
	<author>AlpineR</author>
	<datestamp>1262703540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Forget the radius. Now I can calculate zero to 2.7 trillion digits of precision: pow(e,i*pi)+1=0</htmltext>
<tokenext>Forget the radius .
Now I can calculate zero to 2.7 trillion digits of precision : pow ( e,i * pi ) + 1 = 0</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Forget the radius.
Now I can calculate zero to 2.7 trillion digits of precision: pow(e,i*pi)+1=0</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30652230</id>
	<title>Poster must work in banking</title>
	<author>dredwerker</author>
	<datestamp>1262723880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>if they think 1.2 billion is small</htmltext>
<tokenext>if they think 1.2 billion is small</tokentext>
<sentencetext>if they think 1.2 billion is small</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30655450</id>
	<title>...and they're needing to hand-verify for accuracy</title>
	<author>kjcole</author>
	<datestamp>1262709840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Meanwhile a machine in Redmond expects to complete the task sometime around the year 2518...  (After 8 years it is now out to 15 places after the decimal.)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Meanwhile a machine in Redmond expects to complete the task sometime around the year 2518... ( After 8 years it is now out to 15 places after the decimal .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Meanwhile a machine in Redmond expects to complete the task sometime around the year 2518...  (After 8 years it is now out to 15 places after the decimal.
)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30654666</id>
	<title>Re:He needs some help...</title>
	<author>russotto</author>
	<datestamp>1262706420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>1 TB data files... somebody needs to help him with the compression!</p></div> </blockquote><p>Here's a full-precision compressed representation of Pi.  The trick, of course, is expanding it:</p><p>pi = 4 * sum(k,0,+inf, ((-1)^k)/(2k+1)))</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>1 TB data files... somebody needs to help him with the compression !
Here 's a full-precision compressed representation of Pi .
The trick , of course , is expanding it : pi = 4 * sum ( k,0 , + inf , ( ( -1 ) ^ k ) / ( 2k + 1 ) ) )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1 TB data files... somebody needs to help him with the compression!
Here's a full-precision compressed representation of Pi.
The trick, of course, is expanding it:pi = 4 * sum(k,0,+inf, ((-1)^k)/(2k+1)))
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30652302</id>
	<title>Specs from the PC in question</title>
	<author>c0mpliant</author>
	<datestamp>1262724720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Core i7 clocking at 2.93GHz
6GB RAM
5 1.5TB Hard Drives
(At least 7.2TB needed to store final result and base conversion)
<br>
<br>
He will be releasing the program he created for Windows (64bit only) and Linux</htmltext>
<tokenext>Core i7 clocking at 2.93GHz 6GB RAM 5 1.5TB Hard Drives ( At least 7.2TB needed to store final result and base conversion ) He will be releasing the program he created for Windows ( 64bit only ) and Linux</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Core i7 clocking at 2.93GHz
6GB RAM
5 1.5TB Hard Drives
(At least 7.2TB needed to store final result and base conversion)


He will be releasing the program he created for Windows (64bit only) and Linux</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30654054</id>
	<title>I calculated pi to the last digit...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262702880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>in base pi. The answer was 10.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>in base pi .
The answer was 10 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>in base pi.
The answer was 10.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30654082</id>
	<title>Not really impressed</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262703060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It is a simple mathematical formula and that can be broken down into a couple of recursive functions.  All that is required is sufficient storage space to store the sequence of numbers along the recursive functions.</p><p>Let&rsquo;s see in excel I can write in two cells the required functions and copy and paste down... presto in less than a second I can see the sequence of PI down to 65536.  Since this is off the top of my head need at least 2 rows to help do the calculation and given excel has 256 columns I can do this 128 times.  So with Excel on a single sheet I can find PI to 8388608 (65536 * 128) decimal points.  This calculates it surprisingly fast even over 5 sheets.</p><p>All that is required is sufficient storage to store the output. And most importantly a way to read and parse that output file.</p><p>Overall I am not impressed with how decimals points you can calculate PI to.  That is mathematical exercise trivial.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It is a simple mathematical formula and that can be broken down into a couple of recursive functions .
All that is required is sufficient storage space to store the sequence of numbers along the recursive functions.Let    s see in excel I can write in two cells the required functions and copy and paste down... presto in less than a second I can see the sequence of PI down to 65536 .
Since this is off the top of my head need at least 2 rows to help do the calculation and given excel has 256 columns I can do this 128 times .
So with Excel on a single sheet I can find PI to 8388608 ( 65536 * 128 ) decimal points .
This calculates it surprisingly fast even over 5 sheets.All that is required is sufficient storage to store the output .
And most importantly a way to read and parse that output file.Overall I am not impressed with how decimals points you can calculate PI to .
That is mathematical exercise trivial .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is a simple mathematical formula and that can be broken down into a couple of recursive functions.
All that is required is sufficient storage space to store the sequence of numbers along the recursive functions.Let’s see in excel I can write in two cells the required functions and copy and paste down... presto in less than a second I can see the sequence of PI down to 65536.
Since this is off the top of my head need at least 2 rows to help do the calculation and given excel has 256 columns I can do this 128 times.
So with Excel on a single sheet I can find PI to 8388608 (65536 * 128) decimal points.
This calculates it surprisingly fast even over 5 sheets.All that is required is sufficient storage to store the output.
And most importantly a way to read and parse that output file.Overall I am not impressed with how decimals points you can calculate PI to.
That is mathematical exercise trivial.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30652960</id>
	<title>Re:Finally!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262689020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There is a program package for Linux called Sage math where you can get a lot of digits in your constants. For example, to accurately calculate the circumference of a circular table with diameter=1000 mm you could type:</p><p>1000*pi().n(digits=1000000)</p><p>All you need now is a decent measuring tape...</p><p>These two also work, in case you're worried about not getting good enough accuracy when you calculate Fourier coefficients or something:</p><p>(pi().n(digits=1000000))^2<br>(pi().n(digits=1000000))^3</p><p>Since Sage sets up a web server on your computer you can even do this inside a decent phone web browser, so you can get that precision out in the field, where you need it.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There is a program package for Linux called Sage math where you can get a lot of digits in your constants .
For example , to accurately calculate the circumference of a circular table with diameter = 1000 mm you could type : 1000 * pi ( ) .n ( digits = 1000000 ) All you need now is a decent measuring tape...These two also work , in case you 're worried about not getting good enough accuracy when you calculate Fourier coefficients or something : ( pi ( ) .n ( digits = 1000000 ) ) ^ 2 ( pi ( ) .n ( digits = 1000000 ) ) ^ 3Since Sage sets up a web server on your computer you can even do this inside a decent phone web browser , so you can get that precision out in the field , where you need it .
: - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is a program package for Linux called Sage math where you can get a lot of digits in your constants.
For example, to accurately calculate the circumference of a circular table with diameter=1000 mm you could type:1000*pi().n(digits=1000000)All you need now is a decent measuring tape...These two also work, in case you're worried about not getting good enough accuracy when you calculate Fourier coefficients or something:(pi().n(digits=1000000))^2(pi().n(digits=1000000))^3Since Sage sets up a web server on your computer you can even do this inside a decent phone web browser, so you can get that precision out in the field, where you need it.
:-)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30653098</id>
	<title>Re:fabrice BELLARD</title>
	<author>PhunkySchtuff</author>
	<datestamp>1262690940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://bellard.org/" title="bellard.org">http://bellard.org/</a> [bellard.org]<br>He's also the guy who launched <a href="http://ffmpeg.org/" title="ffmpeg.org">ffmpeg</a> [ffmpeg.org] and is working on <a href="http://www.nongnu.org/qemu/" title="nongnu.org">Qemu</a> [nongnu.org], among other things...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //bellard.org/ [ bellard.org ] He 's also the guy who launched ffmpeg [ ffmpeg.org ] and is working on Qemu [ nongnu.org ] , among other things.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://bellard.org/ [bellard.org]He's also the guy who launched ffmpeg [ffmpeg.org] and is working on Qemu [nongnu.org], among other things...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30653156</id>
	<title>Re:fabrice BELLARD</title>
	<author>AlecC</author>
	<datestamp>1262691900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It is just the customary way in France. You see it all the time on French technical sites, and if you get email from French academics. Just a national quirk.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It is just the customary way in France .
You see it all the time on French technical sites , and if you get email from French academics .
Just a national quirk .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is just the customary way in France.
You see it all the time on French technical sites, and if you get email from French academics.
Just a national quirk.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30653074</id>
	<title>I think I've spotted an error</title>
	<author>PhunkySchtuff</author>
	<datestamp>1262690580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>On his page with <a href="http://bellard.org/pi/pi2700e9/pidigits.html" title="bellard.org">extracts of the digits of Pi</a> [bellard.org], in the third column of the 799,999,951th digits, he's got a 2 where I think it should be a 5.</p><p>^\_^</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>On his page with extracts of the digits of Pi [ bellard.org ] , in the third column of the 799,999,951th digits , he 's got a 2 where I think it should be a 5. ^ \ _ ^</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On his page with extracts of the digits of Pi [bellard.org], in the third column of the 799,999,951th digits, he's got a 2 where I think it should be a 5.^\_^</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30656256</id>
	<title>How long before someone memorizes them...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262712780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Probably some teenager from India working on it now. Another couple hundred million years and he'll be ready to recite them all.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Probably some teenager from India working on it now .
Another couple hundred million years and he 'll be ready to recite them all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Probably some teenager from India working on it now.
Another couple hundred million years and he'll be ready to recite them all.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30652428</id>
	<title>Re:silly</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262683080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>There is an algorithm now for calculating the nth digit of Pi at a whim.</p></div><p>The <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bailey&ndash;Borwein&ndash;Plouffe\_formula" title="wikipedia.org">algorithm</a> [wikipedia.org] only works for hexadecimal digits. There is no known formula or algorithm for calculating the n-th decimal digit directly.
</p><p>
Having said that, the existence or non-existence of an n-th digit algorithm does not have any relevance on the silliness or non-silliness of computing trillions of digits of pi, unless the algorithm is <em>extremely</em> trivial (i.e. computing the digit takes less CPU time than a byte of I/O), which is not the case here.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>There is an algorithm now for calculating the nth digit of Pi at a whim.The algorithm [ wikipedia.org ] only works for hexadecimal digits .
There is no known formula or algorithm for calculating the n-th decimal digit directly .
Having said that , the existence or non-existence of an n-th digit algorithm does not have any relevance on the silliness or non-silliness of computing trillions of digits of pi , unless the algorithm is extremely trivial ( i.e .
computing the digit takes less CPU time than a byte of I/O ) , which is not the case here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is an algorithm now for calculating the nth digit of Pi at a whim.The algorithm [wikipedia.org] only works for hexadecimal digits.
There is no known formula or algorithm for calculating the n-th decimal digit directly.
Having said that, the existence or non-existence of an n-th digit algorithm does not have any relevance on the silliness or non-silliness of computing trillions of digits of pi, unless the algorithm is extremely trivial (i.e.
computing the digit takes less CPU time than a byte of I/O), which is not the case here.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30653830</id>
	<title>Re:fabrice BELLARD</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262700840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Family name is often given in all caps in France.  No idea why.  Then again, I also have no idea why words in article titles are capitalized in (American?) English.  I guess these are just conventions.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Family name is often given in all caps in France .
No idea why .
Then again , I also have no idea why words in article titles are capitalized in ( American ?
) English .
I guess these are just conventions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Family name is often given in all caps in France.
No idea why.
Then again, I also have no idea why words in article titles are capitalized in (American?
) English.
I guess these are just conventions.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30655092</id>
	<title>Re:So... umm...</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1262708280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Well, 'til now I saw the Pi-calculating e-peen waving as something like basic research. Ya know, where you build better computers and then you don't find anything sensible to do with them, so let's have them, say, find the next big prime (ok, being in cryptography I can see an application for that...) </i></p><p>Threads like this one make me feel incredibly stupid.</p><p><i>Could someone fill me in what purpose that may be?<br></i><br>The same purpose as climbing a mountain -- because it's there.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , 'til now I saw the Pi-calculating e-peen waving as something like basic research .
Ya know , where you build better computers and then you do n't find anything sensible to do with them , so let 's have them , say , find the next big prime ( ok , being in cryptography I can see an application for that... ) Threads like this one make me feel incredibly stupid.Could someone fill me in what purpose that may be ? The same purpose as climbing a mountain -- because it 's there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, 'til now I saw the Pi-calculating e-peen waving as something like basic research.
Ya know, where you build better computers and then you don't find anything sensible to do with them, so let's have them, say, find the next big prime (ok, being in cryptography I can see an application for that...) Threads like this one make me feel incredibly stupid.Could someone fill me in what purpose that may be?The same purpose as climbing a mountain -- because it's there.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30653934</id>
	<title>Re:So, how do you calculate Pi? Seriously</title>
	<author>Kopachris</author>
	<datestamp>1262701800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>RTFM: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi#Computation\_in\_the\_computer\_age" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi#Computation\_in\_the\_computer\_age</a> [wikipedia.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>RTFM : http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi # Computation \ _in \ _the \ _computer \ _age [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>RTFM: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi#Computation\_in\_the\_computer\_age [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30652762</id>
	<title>Re:Finally!</title>
	<author>userxie</author>
	<datestamp>1262686500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Very good artical.Thank you for sharing.Good luck !


<a href="http://www.airmax-shox.com/" title="airmax-shox.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.airmax-shox.com/</a> [airmax-shox.com]
<a href="http://www.airmax-shox.com/" title="airmax-shox.com" rel="nofollow">nike air max</a> [airmax-shox.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Very good artical.Thank you for sharing.Good luck !
http : //www.airmax-shox.com/ [ airmax-shox.com ] nike air max [ airmax-shox.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Very good artical.Thank you for sharing.Good luck !
http://www.airmax-shox.com/ [airmax-shox.com]
nike air max [airmax-shox.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30652266</id>
	<title>Finally!</title>
	<author>pEBDr</author>
	<datestamp>1262724300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Now I can finally get somewhat reasonable precision when calculating the radius of stuff!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Now I can finally get somewhat reasonable precision when calculating the radius of stuff !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now I can finally get somewhat reasonable precision when calculating the radius of stuff!</sentencetext>
</comment>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30655032</id>
	<title>Re:Verification</title>
	<author>rafaelolg</author>
	<datestamp>1262708040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I guess if one proves that the program is formally proof correct there is no need to verify the numbers.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I guess if one proves that the program is formally proof correct there is no need to verify the numbers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I guess if one proves that the program is formally proof correct there is no need to verify the numbers.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30653024</id>
	<title>tub61rl</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262689860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><A HREF="http://goat.cx/" title="goat.cx" rel="nofollow">of the olXD going</a> [goat.cx]</htmltext>
<tokenext>of the olXD going [ goat.cx ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>of the olXD going [goat.cx]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30653474</id>
	<title>Re:Pattern?</title>
	<author>PRMan</author>
	<datestamp>1262696100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If you would put the outcomes in a graph would a pattern arise?</p></div><p>When I graphed it, I got a perfect circle...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you would put the outcomes in a graph would a pattern arise ? When I graphed it , I got a perfect circle.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you would put the outcomes in a graph would a pattern arise?When I graphed it, I got a perfect circle...
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30653742</id>
	<title>Re:Verification</title>
	<author>ChienAndalu</author>
	<datestamp>1262700000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>From the PDF on his website:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>A standard desktop PC was used, using a Core i7 CPU at 2.93 GHz. This CPU<br>contains 4 physical cores.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; We put only 6 GiB of RAM to reduce the cost. It means the amount of RAM<br>is about 170 times smaller than the size of the final result, so the I/O performance<br>of the mass storage is critical. Unfortunately, the RAM had no ECC (Error<br>Correcting Code), so random bit errors could not be corrected nor detected. Since<br>the computation lasted more than 100 days, such errors were likely [12]. Hopefully,<br>the computations included verification steps which could detect such errors.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; For the mass storage, five 1.5 TB hard disks were used. The aggregated peak<br>I/O speed is about 500 MB/s.</p></div><p>A weird choice of words...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>From the PDF on his website : A standard desktop PC was used , using a Core i7 CPU at 2.93 GHz .
This CPUcontains 4 physical cores .
        We put only 6 GiB of RAM to reduce the cost .
It means the amount of RAMis about 170 times smaller than the size of the final result , so the I/O performanceof the mass storage is critical .
Unfortunately , the RAM had no ECC ( ErrorCorrecting Code ) , so random bit errors could not be corrected nor detected .
Sincethe computation lasted more than 100 days , such errors were likely [ 12 ] .
Hopefully,the computations included verification steps which could detect such errors .
        For the mass storage , five 1.5 TB hard disks were used .
The aggregated peakI/O speed is about 500 MB/s.A weird choice of words.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From the PDF on his website:A standard desktop PC was used, using a Core i7 CPU at 2.93 GHz.
This CPUcontains 4 physical cores.
        We put only 6 GiB of RAM to reduce the cost.
It means the amount of RAMis about 170 times smaller than the size of the final result, so the I/O performanceof the mass storage is critical.
Unfortunately, the RAM had no ECC (ErrorCorrecting Code), so random bit errors could not be corrected nor detected.
Sincethe computation lasted more than 100 days, such errors were likely [12].
Hopefully,the computations included verification steps which could detect such errors.
        For the mass storage, five 1.5 TB hard disks were used.
The aggregated peakI/O speed is about 500 MB/s.A weird choice of words...
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30653608</id>
	<title>PI At Home</title>
	<author>pinballer</author>
	<datestamp>1262698260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't get why computation stops at a certain digit? Wouldn't it be possible to keep computing indefinitely and then announce the number of digits at periodic checkpoints? Instead of SETI at Home and Folding at Home what about "PI at home" ??</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't get why computation stops at a certain digit ?
Would n't it be possible to keep computing indefinitely and then announce the number of digits at periodic checkpoints ?
Instead of SETI at Home and Folding at Home what about " PI at home " ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't get why computation stops at a certain digit?
Wouldn't it be possible to keep computing indefinitely and then announce the number of digits at periodic checkpoints?
Instead of SETI at Home and Folding at Home what about "PI at home" ?
?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30660262</id>
	<title>Pi digits to the e*trillion?</title>
	<author>CodeDragonDM</author>
	<datestamp>1262684760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Am I reading that right that e accurate to two places, times a trillion is the number of places that pi has been calculated to?  Nice.

I see the answer to the Pi versus e debate has a tangental answer.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Am I reading that right that e accurate to two places , times a trillion is the number of places that pi has been calculated to ?
Nice . I see the answer to the Pi versus e debate has a tangental answer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Am I reading that right that e accurate to two places, times a trillion is the number of places that pi has been calculated to?
Nice.

I see the answer to the Pi versus e debate has a tangental answer.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30661460</id>
	<title>Wrong. Computers can make mistakes.</title>
	<author>nuckfuts</author>
	<datestamp>1262689440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A correct algorithm is not enough to ensure a correct result.</p><p>The fact is that binary digits in RAM can (and do) spontaneously change from 0 to 1 and vice-versa. A few possible causes are listed <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soft\_error#Causes\_of\_soft\_errors" title="wikipedia.org">here</a> [wikipedia.org]. The likelihood of such errors increases with the number of digits involved.</p><p>There is no mention of whether Bellard used <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic\_random\_access\_memory#Errors\_and\_error\_correction" title="wikipedia.org">ECC
  RAM</a> [wikipedia.org].</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A correct algorithm is not enough to ensure a correct result.The fact is that binary digits in RAM can ( and do ) spontaneously change from 0 to 1 and vice-versa .
A few possible causes are listed here [ wikipedia.org ] .
The likelihood of such errors increases with the number of digits involved.There is no mention of whether Bellard used ECC RAM [ wikipedia.org ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A correct algorithm is not enough to ensure a correct result.The fact is that binary digits in RAM can (and do) spontaneously change from 0 to 1 and vice-versa.
A few possible causes are listed here [wikipedia.org].
The likelihood of such errors increases with the number of digits involved.There is no mention of whether Bellard used ECC
  RAM [wikipedia.org].</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30652528</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30655298</id>
	<title>Re:Pattern?</title>
	<author>Stooshie</author>
	<datestamp>1262709180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>As trepidity just said, it has not been proven that there are no patterns.</htmltext>
<tokenext>As trepidity just said , it has not been proven that there are no patterns .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As trepidity just said, it has not been proven that there are no patterns.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30652674</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30660338</id>
	<title>But in the Bible it says...</title>
	<author>richardkelleher</author>
	<datestamp>1262685000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>In the Bible it says pi = 3.  What's all the fuss about.</htmltext>
<tokenext>In the Bible it says pi = 3 .
What 's all the fuss about .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the Bible it says pi = 3.
What's all the fuss about.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30665948</id>
	<title>Re:silly</title>
	<author>ChrisMaple</author>
	<datestamp>1262716440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>More than 130 digits are needed to calculate the the number of electrons that would fill the universe.</htmltext>
<tokenext>More than 130 digits are needed to calculate the the number of electrons that would fill the universe .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>More than 130 digits are needed to calculate the the number of electrons that would fill the universe.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30652782</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30652412</id>
	<title>Re:Verification</title>
	<author>msclrhd</author>
	<datestamp>1262682900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In TFA (especially the PDF), the verification method is to use another algorithm to check the output. The PDF on Fabrice's home page goes into more details.</p><p>NOTE: The machine they were using to generate the second result broke, so they used another (3rd) algorithm to generate the last digits.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In TFA ( especially the PDF ) , the verification method is to use another algorithm to check the output .
The PDF on Fabrice 's home page goes into more details.NOTE : The machine they were using to generate the second result broke , so they used another ( 3rd ) algorithm to generate the last digits .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In TFA (especially the PDF), the verification method is to use another algorithm to check the output.
The PDF on Fabrice's home page goes into more details.NOTE: The machine they were using to generate the second result broke, so they used another (3rd) algorithm to generate the last digits.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30652224</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30652238</id>
	<title>first posssttt</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262724000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>it used windows ninghty 888</htmltext>
<tokenext>it used windows ninghty 888</tokentext>
<sentencetext>it used windows ninghty 888</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30652738</id>
	<title>Re:Verification</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262686380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It'll hardly matter when it's rounded to two significant places.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 'll hardly matter when it 's rounded to two significant places .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It'll hardly matter when it's rounded to two significant places.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30652224</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30652922</id>
	<title>Re:silly</title>
	<author>Tim C</author>
	<datestamp>1262688420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's like saying that the fact that we have horses and cars, etc, make hiking or cycling anywhere retarded.</p><p>Sometimes the point isn't the destination, it's the journey.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's like saying that the fact that we have horses and cars , etc , make hiking or cycling anywhere retarded.Sometimes the point is n't the destination , it 's the journey .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's like saying that the fact that we have horses and cars, etc, make hiking or cycling anywhere retarded.Sometimes the point isn't the destination, it's the journey.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30652332</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30652936</id>
	<title>Re:Verification</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262688660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>hrmph..., by your reasoning software bugs should not have to exist.</p><p>You would instantaneously receive a Turing Award and a Nobel prize for Economics if you are able to keep your promise.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>hrmph... , by your reasoning software bugs should not have to exist.You would instantaneously receive a Turing Award and a Nobel prize for Economics if you are able to keep your promise .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>hrmph..., by your reasoning software bugs should not have to exist.You would instantaneously receive a Turing Award and a Nobel prize for Economics if you are able to keep your promise.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30652528</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30677976</id>
	<title>LOL Re:I calculated pi to the last digit...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262789580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Errr... shouldn't pi in base pi simply be 1?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:D</p><p>Maybe you used a computer that doesn't handle calculations all that well?</p><p>(Those are rhetorical questions people, turn your brains on).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Errr... should n't pi in base pi simply be 1 ?
: DMaybe you used a computer that does n't handle calculations all that well ?
( Those are rhetorical questions people , turn your brains on ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Errr... shouldn't pi in base pi simply be 1?
:DMaybe you used a computer that doesn't handle calculations all that well?
(Those are rhetorical questions people, turn your brains on).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30654054</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30655810</id>
	<title>Re:Did he find a message?</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1262711100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The message was "We apologize for the inconvinience"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The message was " We apologize for the inconvinience "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The message was "We apologize for the inconvinience"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30652424</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30653520</id>
	<title>Re:Verification</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262696880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But the fact that the algorithm runs is the best proof of it working.</p><p>And it is also an exercise in practicality; the author notes in the PDF that there was a high probability of a random bit error during the 100+ day computation period. It is in a way important to show that yes, long computations can be done and verified on ordinary hardware without ECC.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But the fact that the algorithm runs is the best proof of it working.And it is also an exercise in practicality ; the author notes in the PDF that there was a high probability of a random bit error during the 100 + day computation period .
It is in a way important to show that yes , long computations can be done and verified on ordinary hardware without ECC .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But the fact that the algorithm runs is the best proof of it working.And it is also an exercise in practicality; the author notes in the PDF that there was a high probability of a random bit error during the 100+ day computation period.
It is in a way important to show that yes, long computations can be done and verified on ordinary hardware without ECC.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30652528</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30653352</id>
	<title>Re:He needs some help...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262694120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Pffft no prob, you can shrink that data to exactly the length of his pi-generating program. But decompression is pretty slow.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Pffft no prob , you can shrink that data to exactly the length of his pi-generating program .
But decompression is pretty slow .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pffft no prob, you can shrink that data to exactly the length of his pi-generating program.
But decompression is pretty slow.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30652320</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30652814</id>
	<title>Re:Pattern?</title>
	<author>vorlich</author>
	<datestamp>1262686980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>There's a pattern to be found in everything provided you cut the logos and labels off your black 501's and never, ever enter a Tommy Hilfiger store.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's a pattern to be found in everything provided you cut the logos and labels off your black 501 's and never , ever enter a Tommy Hilfiger store .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's a pattern to be found in everything provided you cut the logos and labels off your black 501's and never, ever enter a Tommy Hilfiger store.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30652584</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30655568</id>
	<title>Re:silly</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262710260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Strictly for the sake of applications we know of, yes, pi is only useful to that number of significant digits.  However we seek knowledge not only for current applications, but also for the sake of knowledge itself.  That's what research is all about.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Strictly for the sake of applications we know of , yes , pi is only useful to that number of significant digits .
However we seek knowledge not only for current applications , but also for the sake of knowledge itself .
That 's what research is all about .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Strictly for the sake of applications we know of, yes, pi is only useful to that number of significant digits.
However we seek knowledge not only for current applications, but also for the sake of knowledge itself.
That's what research is all about.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30652782</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30653678</id>
	<title>Re:He needs some help...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262699160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I compressed his files to exactly 2 bytes. "Pi"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I compressed his files to exactly 2 bytes .
" Pi "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I compressed his files to exactly 2 bytes.
"Pi"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30652320</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30655508</id>
	<title>The last digit</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262710020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is zero.  You can stop now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is zero .
You can stop now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is zero.
You can stop now.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30653992</id>
	<title>Re:Did he find a message?</title>
	<author>ettlz</author>
	<datestamp>1262702400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well given (I think, though may be wrong on this) that pretty much any finite sequence of digits will show up in the decimal expansion of pi at some point, there should be a raster image of a circle in 1s and 0s buried in it somewhere. Along with a greyscale raster of Goatse.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well given ( I think , though may be wrong on this ) that pretty much any finite sequence of digits will show up in the decimal expansion of pi at some point , there should be a raster image of a circle in 1s and 0s buried in it somewhere .
Along with a greyscale raster of Goatse .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well given (I think, though may be wrong on this) that pretty much any finite sequence of digits will show up in the decimal expansion of pi at some point, there should be a raster image of a circle in 1s and 0s buried in it somewhere.
Along with a greyscale raster of Goatse.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30652424</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30653142</id>
	<title>Re:silly</title>
	<author>AlecC</author>
	<datestamp>1262691720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But pi seems to have to do with more than geometry. It seems to be embedded in the structure of space and particle physics in some way we do not really understand. That said, of course we will never be able to make measurements whose total range is more than a few tens of orders of magnitude, so for physics, a short approximation is adequate. But mathematics exists in its own right - the fact that it serves physics has always been secondary (to mathematicians).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But pi seems to have to do with more than geometry .
It seems to be embedded in the structure of space and particle physics in some way we do not really understand .
That said , of course we will never be able to make measurements whose total range is more than a few tens of orders of magnitude , so for physics , a short approximation is adequate .
But mathematics exists in its own right - the fact that it serves physics has always been secondary ( to mathematicians ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But pi seems to have to do with more than geometry.
It seems to be embedded in the structure of space and particle physics in some way we do not really understand.
That said, of course we will never be able to make measurements whose total range is more than a few tens of orders of magnitude, so for physics, a short approximation is adequate.
But mathematics exists in its own right - the fact that it serves physics has always been secondary (to mathematicians).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30652782</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30652424</id>
	<title>Did he find a message?</title>
	<author>wisebabo</author>
	<datestamp>1262683020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I believe in "Contact" (the book by Carl Sagan, not the movie), the travelers ask the superintelligent aliens "Do you believe in God?  To which they reply: "Yes"  When asked why, they say "We have proof" in the finding of a message in a transcendental number (pi?).</p><p>After reading the Wikipedia summary I understand that when the travelers come home and are accused of fabricating the whole thing, one of them tries to "find" this message by running their own computer program.  She finds a message, or does she?  Is it just a (very unlikely?) statistical fluke?  What is noise and what is message when you are dealing with a literally infinitely long string of numbers?  (Wasn't this also the plot behind one of Stanislaw Lem's books?).</p><p>I guess if he found a message the news would be all over the place by now so he didn't find a message (or maybe he's just keeping the insights to himself for stock market gains like in the movie "Pi").  Anyway, how DO you go about finding patterns in a finite (if you can call 2.7 trillion finite!) string of numbers?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I believe in " Contact " ( the book by Carl Sagan , not the movie ) , the travelers ask the superintelligent aliens " Do you believe in God ?
To which they reply : " Yes " When asked why , they say " We have proof " in the finding of a message in a transcendental number ( pi ?
) .After reading the Wikipedia summary I understand that when the travelers come home and are accused of fabricating the whole thing , one of them tries to " find " this message by running their own computer program .
She finds a message , or does she ?
Is it just a ( very unlikely ?
) statistical fluke ?
What is noise and what is message when you are dealing with a literally infinitely long string of numbers ?
( Was n't this also the plot behind one of Stanislaw Lem 's books ?
) .I guess if he found a message the news would be all over the place by now so he did n't find a message ( or maybe he 's just keeping the insights to himself for stock market gains like in the movie " Pi " ) .
Anyway , how DO you go about finding patterns in a finite ( if you can call 2.7 trillion finite !
) string of numbers ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I believe in "Contact" (the book by Carl Sagan, not the movie), the travelers ask the superintelligent aliens "Do you believe in God?
To which they reply: "Yes"  When asked why, they say "We have proof" in the finding of a message in a transcendental number (pi?
).After reading the Wikipedia summary I understand that when the travelers come home and are accused of fabricating the whole thing, one of them tries to "find" this message by running their own computer program.
She finds a message, or does she?
Is it just a (very unlikely?
) statistical fluke?
What is noise and what is message when you are dealing with a literally infinitely long string of numbers?
(Wasn't this also the plot behind one of Stanislaw Lem's books?
).I guess if he found a message the news would be all over the place by now so he didn't find a message (or maybe he's just keeping the insights to himself for stock market gains like in the movie "Pi").
Anyway, how DO you go about finding patterns in a finite (if you can call 2.7 trillion finite!
) string of numbers?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30653240</id>
	<title>Re:Finally!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262692980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I still use the "old math", where you "measure" the radius.  Now you kids calculate the radius with pi?</p><p>BTW, get off my lawn<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I still use the " old math " , where you " measure " the radius .
Now you kids calculate the radius with pi ? BTW , get off my lawn .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I still use the "old math", where you "measure" the radius.
Now you kids calculate the radius with pi?BTW, get off my lawn ...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30652266</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30652528</id>
	<title>Re:Verification</title>
	<author>Xest</author>
	<datestamp>1262684040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You don't need to verify that the number is correctly pi to the given digits, merely verify that the algorithm calculates the digits of pi correctly.</p><p>The algorithm can be proven correct in a number of relatively quick and easy ways.</p><p>The algorithm is really also arguably the most important part anyway rather than the digits themselves because it's the part of most use.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You do n't need to verify that the number is correctly pi to the given digits , merely verify that the algorithm calculates the digits of pi correctly.The algorithm can be proven correct in a number of relatively quick and easy ways.The algorithm is really also arguably the most important part anyway rather than the digits themselves because it 's the part of most use .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You don't need to verify that the number is correctly pi to the given digits, merely verify that the algorithm calculates the digits of pi correctly.The algorithm can be proven correct in a number of relatively quick and easy ways.The algorithm is really also arguably the most important part anyway rather than the digits themselves because it's the part of most use.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30653254</id>
	<title>Would have been nice to see some code.</title>
	<author>flimflammer</author>
	<datestamp>1262693040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't think many people will be running his program that takes 116 days to complete to get as far as he did. Would have been nice to at least see how the code worked.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't think many people will be running his program that takes 116 days to complete to get as far as he did .
Would have been nice to at least see how the code worked .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't think many people will be running his program that takes 116 days to complete to get as far as he did.
Would have been nice to at least see how the code worked.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30658780</id>
	<title>Re:Finally!</title>
	<author>HTH NE1</author>
	<datestamp>1262721540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think you'll find you don't need anywhere near that level of precision of pi to find the radius of the Universe in Planck lengths. 50 digits is sufficient.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think you 'll find you do n't need anywhere near that level of precision of pi to find the radius of the Universe in Planck lengths .
50 digits is sufficient .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think you'll find you don't need anywhere near that level of precision of pi to find the radius of the Universe in Planck lengths.
50 digits is sufficient.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30652540</id>
	<title>I'm not impressed - Superman was faster than a</title>
	<author>anti-NAT</author>
	<datestamp>1262684280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>speeding bullet, and was able to leap tall buildings in a single bound. Fabrice needs to lift his game.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>speeding bullet , and was able to leap tall buildings in a single bound .
Fabrice needs to lift his game .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>speeding bullet, and was able to leap tall buildings in a single bound.
Fabrice needs to lift his game.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30654214</id>
	<title>Excellent.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262703900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Now I can give my teacher more accurate results in the math class.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now I can give my teacher more accurate results in the math class .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now I can give my teacher more accurate results in the math class.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30652920</id>
	<title>Re:silly</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262688420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>There is an algorithm now for calculating the nth digit of Pi at a whim.</i> </p><p>Not in decimal, there isn't. The <a href="http://mathworld.wolfram.com/BBPFormula.html" title="wolfram.com" rel="nofollow">Borwein-Bailey-Plouffe algorithm</a> [wolfram.com] only works on base 16. There are <a href="http://mathworld.wolfram.com/BBP-TypeFormula.html" title="wolfram.com" rel="nofollow">others</a> [wolfram.com] for base 2, 64, and 729, but not 10.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There is an algorithm now for calculating the nth digit of Pi at a whim .
Not in decimal , there is n't .
The Borwein-Bailey-Plouffe algorithm [ wolfram.com ] only works on base 16 .
There are others [ wolfram.com ] for base 2 , 64 , and 729 , but not 10 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is an algorithm now for calculating the nth digit of Pi at a whim.
Not in decimal, there isn't.
The Borwein-Bailey-Plouffe algorithm [wolfram.com] only works on base 16.
There are others [wolfram.com] for base 2, 64, and 729, but not 10.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30652320</id>
	<title>He needs some help...</title>
	<author>LostCluster</author>
	<datestamp>1262724840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>1 TB data files... somebody needs to help him with the compression! Oh, wait a minute.</htmltext>
<tokenext>1 TB data files... somebody needs to help him with the compression !
Oh , wait a minute .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1 TB data files... somebody needs to help him with the compression!
Oh, wait a minute.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30653066</id>
	<title>Re:fabrice BELLARD</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262690520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I read something recently on this, it's (apparently) a French convention, presumably to make it clear which name is the surname.  I don't know much about it, just something I saw on the Planet Debian RSS:</p><p><a href="http://gwolf.org/blog/internationalizing-your-local-customs" title="gwolf.org" rel="nofollow">http://gwolf.org/blog/internationalizing-your-local-customs</a> [gwolf.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I read something recently on this , it 's ( apparently ) a French convention , presumably to make it clear which name is the surname .
I do n't know much about it , just something I saw on the Planet Debian RSS : http : //gwolf.org/blog/internationalizing-your-local-customs [ gwolf.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I read something recently on this, it's (apparently) a French convention, presumably to make it clear which name is the surname.
I don't know much about it, just something I saw on the Planet Debian RSS:http://gwolf.org/blog/internationalizing-your-local-customs [gwolf.org]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30652822</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30652554</id>
	<title>2.7 trillion digits</title>
	<author>asterix\_2k1</author>
	<datestamp>1262684340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>..ought to be enough for everybody.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>..ought to be enough for everybody .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>..ought to be enough for everybody.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_05_006243.30652366</id>
	<title>Re:So... umm...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262682480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He mentions in the "press release" page that the most important thing developed in his code is "an arbitrary-precision arithmetic library able to manipulate huge numbers stored on hard disks", which sounds basic-research-y. There's some more on that in the technical-details PDF, although unfortunately he says he doesn't plan to release the code (somewhat unusual, since most of his projects are free software).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He mentions in the " press release " page that the most important thing developed in his code is " an arbitrary-precision arithmetic library able to manipulate huge numbers stored on hard disks " , which sounds basic-research-y .
There 's some more on that in the technical-details PDF , although unfortunately he says he does n't plan to release the code ( somewhat unusual , since most of his projects are free software ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He mentions in the "press release" page that the most important thing developed in his code is "an arbitrary-precision arithmetic library able to manipulate huge numbers stored on hard disks", which sounds basic-research-y.
There's some more on that in the technical-details PDF, although unfortunately he says he doesn't plan to release the code (somewhat unusual, since most of his projects are free software).</sentencetext>
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