<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_01_04_1550216</id>
	<title>End of the Road For NASA's Mars Rover?</title>
	<author>CmdrTaco</author>
	<datestamp>1262623080000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>An anonymous reader writes <i>"NASA <a href="http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/news/3217/end-road-nasas-mars-rover">celebrated Mars rover Spirit's bountiful, six-year stint</a> on the red planet on Sunday &ndash; way longer than its forecast three-month mission. But it all may soon come to an end, stuck as it is in Martian sand."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>An anonymous reader writes " NASA celebrated Mars rover Spirit 's bountiful , six-year stint on the red planet on Sunday    way longer than its forecast three-month mission .
But it all may soon come to an end , stuck as it is in Martian sand .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An anonymous reader writes "NASA celebrated Mars rover Spirit's bountiful, six-year stint on the red planet on Sunday – way longer than its forecast three-month mission.
But it all may soon come to an end, stuck as it is in Martian sand.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1550216.30645466</id>
	<title>Can RAT save Spirit?</title>
	<author>zchris\_gr</author>
	<datestamp>1262596980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I really wonder if the Rock Abrasion Tool (RAT) arm (the grinder arm) is strong enough to help Spirit move away from its sand trap...

Christos/Greece</htmltext>
<tokenext>I really wonder if the Rock Abrasion Tool ( RAT ) arm ( the grinder arm ) is strong enough to help Spirit move away from its sand trap.. . Christos/Greece</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I really wonder if the Rock Abrasion Tool (RAT) arm (the grinder arm) is strong enough to help Spirit move away from its sand trap...

Christos/Greece</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1550216.30642640</id>
	<title>End of the Road</title>
	<author>Russianspi</author>
	<datestamp>1262628120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Funny you should use that euphemism.  A road would have helped the rover considerably.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Funny you should use that euphemism .
A road would have helped the rover considerably .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Funny you should use that euphemism.
A road would have helped the rover considerably.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1550216.30642220</id>
	<title>What happened to their plan from a few days ago</title>
	<author>sopssa</author>
	<datestamp>1262626680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They're <a href="http://science.slashdot.org/story/10/01/01/198243/NASA-Mars-Rover-Spirit-May-Move-Forward-By-Spinning-Its-Wheels" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">trying to spin the wheels</a> [slashdot.org] so that the rover digs deeper in the sand, but could adjust solar panels in to better position. It probably couldn't get up from there anymore, but could still remain in operation in the sand pit.</p><p>Also, if you're putting a robot on a sand planet, wouldn't it kind of make sense to have some fans to blow off the sand from the solar panels?</p><p>But without Spirit, is there really any Opportunity to succeed?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They 're trying to spin the wheels [ slashdot.org ] so that the rover digs deeper in the sand , but could adjust solar panels in to better position .
It probably could n't get up from there anymore , but could still remain in operation in the sand pit.Also , if you 're putting a robot on a sand planet , would n't it kind of make sense to have some fans to blow off the sand from the solar panels ? But without Spirit , is there really any Opportunity to succeed ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They're trying to spin the wheels [slashdot.org] so that the rover digs deeper in the sand, but could adjust solar panels in to better position.
It probably couldn't get up from there anymore, but could still remain in operation in the sand pit.Also, if you're putting a robot on a sand planet, wouldn't it kind of make sense to have some fans to blow off the sand from the solar panels?But without Spirit, is there really any Opportunity to succeed?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1550216.30645446</id>
	<title>Re:I don't understand this</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1262596920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There's a 1928 Duesenberg that has never had any maintenance whaever, not even an oil change, and it's still working. However, it has a flat tire and can't get to the gas station and it's almost out of gas.</p><p>Except it's on Mars.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's a 1928 Duesenberg that has never had any maintenance whaever , not even an oil change , and it 's still working .
However , it has a flat tire and ca n't get to the gas station and it 's almost out of gas.Except it 's on Mars .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's a 1928 Duesenberg that has never had any maintenance whaever, not even an oil change, and it's still working.
However, it has a flat tire and can't get to the gas station and it's almost out of gas.Except it's on Mars.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1550216.30642270</id>
	<title>look on the bright side</title>
	<author>circletimessquare</author>
	<datestamp>1262626860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>some exoarcheology student in a couple hundred years is going to make the find of his life</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>some exoarcheology student in a couple hundred years is going to make the find of his life</tokentext>
<sentencetext>some exoarcheology student in a couple hundred years is going to make the find of his life</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1550216.30645630</id>
	<title>Re:A question for NASA</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1262597460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I doubt your average redneck has had a truck that took ten minutes to get it from forward to reverse and another ten minutes to see if anything happened. That's how long it takes for a command to reach Mars from Earth, and from the feedback to reach Earth from Mars.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I doubt your average redneck has had a truck that took ten minutes to get it from forward to reverse and another ten minutes to see if anything happened .
That 's how long it takes for a command to reach Mars from Earth , and from the feedback to reach Earth from Mars .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I doubt your average redneck has had a truck that took ten minutes to get it from forward to reverse and another ten minutes to see if anything happened.
That's how long it takes for a command to reach Mars from Earth, and from the feedback to reach Earth from Mars.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1550216.30642748</id>
	<title>Re:Note: It was not designed to last 90 days</title>
	<author>Chris Burke</author>
	<datestamp>1262628480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>It should noted that they were designed to work no matter what for their initial 90 day mission and that running beyond that was expected.</i></p><p>Very true.  90 days was a "guaranteed" lifetime for doing the cost-benefit analysis for the mission.  Obviously to guarantee 90 days, the rover would have to be designed to last much longer than that.</p><p>It should also be noted that the 90 day lifetime was based on how long they thought it would take before the Martian dust covered the solar panels and the rover died.  Various cleaning mechanisms were considered, but ultimately weren't considered worth it.  That the Martian wind happens to be enough to do an adequate job of blowing dust off the panels by itself was an unexpected but happy surprise, and is the reason the rovers lasted past 90 days.</p><p><i>Of course, running 6+ years is quite an accomplishment.</i></p><p>Indeed.  It's a testament not just to the engineering team who designed the rovers, but to the operations team that has kept it going.</p><p>Also, while only obvious in hindsight, and even though it is what will ultimately kill the rover, not including a cleaning mechanism was the right call.</p><p>Lastly, I find it amazing that even sitting on what may be its final resting spot, in its final days, on its last leg (or rather wheel, at least on one side), it is still doing remarkable science.  There is so much to learn about Mars that is literally right below the surface.</p><p>I can't wait for the Mars Science Laboratory.  Also, I'm really hoping they take <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ajzd713oKJs" title="youtube.com">Lore Sjoberg's</a> [youtube.com] suggestion to heart and make one of MSL's missions to run over Spirit/Opportunity, monster-truck style.  But if they can't fit that in to the mission parameters, I'll understand.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It should noted that they were designed to work no matter what for their initial 90 day mission and that running beyond that was expected.Very true .
90 days was a " guaranteed " lifetime for doing the cost-benefit analysis for the mission .
Obviously to guarantee 90 days , the rover would have to be designed to last much longer than that.It should also be noted that the 90 day lifetime was based on how long they thought it would take before the Martian dust covered the solar panels and the rover died .
Various cleaning mechanisms were considered , but ultimately were n't considered worth it .
That the Martian wind happens to be enough to do an adequate job of blowing dust off the panels by itself was an unexpected but happy surprise , and is the reason the rovers lasted past 90 days.Of course , running 6 + years is quite an accomplishment.Indeed .
It 's a testament not just to the engineering team who designed the rovers , but to the operations team that has kept it going.Also , while only obvious in hindsight , and even though it is what will ultimately kill the rover , not including a cleaning mechanism was the right call.Lastly , I find it amazing that even sitting on what may be its final resting spot , in its final days , on its last leg ( or rather wheel , at least on one side ) , it is still doing remarkable science .
There is so much to learn about Mars that is literally right below the surface.I ca n't wait for the Mars Science Laboratory .
Also , I 'm really hoping they take Lore Sjoberg 's [ youtube.com ] suggestion to heart and make one of MSL 's missions to run over Spirit/Opportunity , monster-truck style .
But if they ca n't fit that in to the mission parameters , I 'll understand .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It should noted that they were designed to work no matter what for their initial 90 day mission and that running beyond that was expected.Very true.
90 days was a "guaranteed" lifetime for doing the cost-benefit analysis for the mission.
Obviously to guarantee 90 days, the rover would have to be designed to last much longer than that.It should also be noted that the 90 day lifetime was based on how long they thought it would take before the Martian dust covered the solar panels and the rover died.
Various cleaning mechanisms were considered, but ultimately weren't considered worth it.
That the Martian wind happens to be enough to do an adequate job of blowing dust off the panels by itself was an unexpected but happy surprise, and is the reason the rovers lasted past 90 days.Of course, running 6+ years is quite an accomplishment.Indeed.
It's a testament not just to the engineering team who designed the rovers, but to the operations team that has kept it going.Also, while only obvious in hindsight, and even though it is what will ultimately kill the rover, not including a cleaning mechanism was the right call.Lastly, I find it amazing that even sitting on what may be its final resting spot, in its final days, on its last leg (or rather wheel, at least on one side), it is still doing remarkable science.
There is so much to learn about Mars that is literally right below the surface.I can't wait for the Mars Science Laboratory.
Also, I'm really hoping they take Lore Sjoberg's [youtube.com] suggestion to heart and make one of MSL's missions to run over Spirit/Opportunity, monster-truck style.
But if they can't fit that in to the mission parameters, I'll understand.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1550216.30643232</id>
	<title>A Martian Geodetic Observatory</title>
	<author>mbone</author>
	<datestamp>1262630700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Those of us who are interested in Martian climate oscillations hope that they can turn  Spirit into a Martian geodetic observatory, to study the rotation of Mars. There hasn't been a good platform for doing this since Viking 1 died some 27 years ago.</p><p>As <a href="http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/newsroom/pressreleases/20091231a.html" title="nasa.gov">Bill Folkner</a> [nasa.gov] says : "<i>"Long-term change in the spin direction could tell us about the diameter and density of the planet's core. Short-period changes could tell us whether the core is liquid or solid.</i>"  There would also be good science in comparing the current rotation rate of Mars with the value determined by Viking; such data would be sensitive to changes in the water and CO2 accumulated at the Polar Caps.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Those of us who are interested in Martian climate oscillations hope that they can turn Spirit into a Martian geodetic observatory , to study the rotation of Mars .
There has n't been a good platform for doing this since Viking 1 died some 27 years ago.As Bill Folkner [ nasa.gov ] says : " " Long-term change in the spin direction could tell us about the diameter and density of the planet 's core .
Short-period changes could tell us whether the core is liquid or solid .
" There would also be good science in comparing the current rotation rate of Mars with the value determined by Viking ; such data would be sensitive to changes in the water and CO2 accumulated at the Polar Caps .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Those of us who are interested in Martian climate oscillations hope that they can turn  Spirit into a Martian geodetic observatory, to study the rotation of Mars.
There hasn't been a good platform for doing this since Viking 1 died some 27 years ago.As Bill Folkner [nasa.gov] says : ""Long-term change in the spin direction could tell us about the diameter and density of the planet's core.
Short-period changes could tell us whether the core is liquid or solid.
"  There would also be good science in comparing the current rotation rate of Mars with the value determined by Viking; such data would be sensitive to changes in the water and CO2 accumulated at the Polar Caps.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1550216.30647840</id>
	<title>Re:Too bad...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262606580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Even better, how about a rover with a giant sail, rolling across the landscape using spoked free wheels rather than powered ones, or even wide skis.</p></div> </blockquote><p>
Not enough wind (at atmospheric densities) on Mars to make it work.
</p><p>
Titan, on the other hand, might be a great place for a sailboat!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Even better , how about a rover with a giant sail , rolling across the landscape using spoked free wheels rather than powered ones , or even wide skis .
Not enough wind ( at atmospheric densities ) on Mars to make it work .
Titan , on the other hand , might be a great place for a sailboat !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even better, how about a rover with a giant sail, rolling across the landscape using spoked free wheels rather than powered ones, or even wide skis.
Not enough wind (at atmospheric densities) on Mars to make it work.
Titan, on the other hand, might be a great place for a sailboat!
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1550216.30646426</id>
	<title>Re:What happened to their plan from a few days ago</title>
	<author>MichaelSmith</author>
	<datestamp>1262600460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Both rovers are so far past their design life that arguments like this are moot. A fan would not work because mars has hardly any atmosphere and anyway it would not have been needed for the design life.</p><p>So long Spirit, and thanks for all the science. You have done well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Both rovers are so far past their design life that arguments like this are moot .
A fan would not work because mars has hardly any atmosphere and anyway it would not have been needed for the design life.So long Spirit , and thanks for all the science .
You have done well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Both rovers are so far past their design life that arguments like this are moot.
A fan would not work because mars has hardly any atmosphere and anyway it would not have been needed for the design life.So long Spirit, and thanks for all the science.
You have done well.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1550216.30642344</id>
	<title>Note: It was not designed to last 90 days</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262627100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Anytime Spirit/Opportunity are mentioned here, somebody puts in the post that they are amazing, considering they were designed to work for 90 days.</p><p>It should noted that they were designed to work no matter what for their initial 90 day mission and that running beyond that was expected.</p><p>Of course, running 6+ years is quite an accomplishment.</p><p>myke</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Anytime Spirit/Opportunity are mentioned here , somebody puts in the post that they are amazing , considering they were designed to work for 90 days.It should noted that they were designed to work no matter what for their initial 90 day mission and that running beyond that was expected.Of course , running 6 + years is quite an accomplishment.myke</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anytime Spirit/Opportunity are mentioned here, somebody puts in the post that they are amazing, considering they were designed to work for 90 days.It should noted that they were designed to work no matter what for their initial 90 day mission and that running beyond that was expected.Of course, running 6+ years is quite an accomplishment.myke</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1550216.30644018</id>
	<title>Send more!</title>
	<author>J05H</author>
	<datestamp>1262634000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>These rovers are a very mature design that has worked flawlessly. Build and send a dozen of them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>These rovers are a very mature design that has worked flawlessly .
Build and send a dozen of them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>These rovers are a very mature design that has worked flawlessly.
Build and send a dozen of them.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1550216.30642590</id>
	<title>Re:Anyone seen the movie Saw?</title>
	<author>khallow</author>
	<datestamp>1262627940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Clearly the rover isn't making much progress with it's 'dead foot' stuck in the sand, so why can't we cut it off?</p> </div><p>As I understand it, there are no "stuck" feet. The rover simply doesn't have the traction (perhaps combined with low motive power) to leave this area of sand.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Clearly the rover is n't making much progress with it 's 'dead foot ' stuck in the sand , so why ca n't we cut it off ?
As I understand it , there are no " stuck " feet .
The rover simply does n't have the traction ( perhaps combined with low motive power ) to leave this area of sand .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Clearly the rover isn't making much progress with it's 'dead foot' stuck in the sand, so why can't we cut it off?
As I understand it, there are no "stuck" feet.
The rover simply doesn't have the traction (perhaps combined with low motive power) to leave this area of sand.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1550216.30643418</id>
	<title>Re:What happened to their plan from a few days ago</title>
	<author>rickb928</author>
	<datestamp>1262631540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"wouldn't it kind of make sense to have some fans to blow off the sand from the solar panels?"</p><p>It was only expected to go 90 days, and not expected to suffer much dust or winter over.</p><p>Another in the long line of 'why didn't they'.  As in:</p><p>"Why didn't they build these things to last 6 years?" Answer: They weren't expected to.</p><p>"Why didn't they think of this or that?" Answer: The mission requirements did not include that.</p><p>"Why did they do this or that?" Answer: They exercised their best judgement at the time.  So far, so good.</p><p>What part of exceeding your expectations by 24 times are you complaining about?  Your GF expected a 1.0+ct diamond, and she got a 24-ct one?  She complains it's VSS-1?  That it's heavy? That it catches on her clothes?  That it blinds people on the street?</p><p>And does she ask you how much you paid for it, and you end up telling her the truth, you paid for a 1/4 ct brilliant, and wow, 6 years later ya got this...</p><p>Again, no complaints about the Rovers.  Spectacular performance.  And NASA is scouting around for the next robotic mission.  Ask some of these guys for ideas, anyone?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" would n't it kind of make sense to have some fans to blow off the sand from the solar panels ?
" It was only expected to go 90 days , and not expected to suffer much dust or winter over.Another in the long line of 'why did n't they' .
As in : " Why did n't they build these things to last 6 years ?
" Answer : They were n't expected to .
" Why did n't they think of this or that ?
" Answer : The mission requirements did not include that .
" Why did they do this or that ?
" Answer : They exercised their best judgement at the time .
So far , so good.What part of exceeding your expectations by 24 times are you complaining about ?
Your GF expected a 1.0 + ct diamond , and she got a 24-ct one ?
She complains it 's VSS-1 ?
That it 's heavy ?
That it catches on her clothes ?
That it blinds people on the street ? And does she ask you how much you paid for it , and you end up telling her the truth , you paid for a 1/4 ct brilliant , and wow , 6 years later ya got this...Again , no complaints about the Rovers .
Spectacular performance .
And NASA is scouting around for the next robotic mission .
Ask some of these guys for ideas , anyone ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"wouldn't it kind of make sense to have some fans to blow off the sand from the solar panels?
"It was only expected to go 90 days, and not expected to suffer much dust or winter over.Another in the long line of 'why didn't they'.
As in:"Why didn't they build these things to last 6 years?
" Answer: They weren't expected to.
"Why didn't they think of this or that?
" Answer: The mission requirements did not include that.
"Why did they do this or that?
" Answer: They exercised their best judgement at the time.
So far, so good.What part of exceeding your expectations by 24 times are you complaining about?
Your GF expected a 1.0+ct diamond, and she got a 24-ct one?
She complains it's VSS-1?
That it's heavy?
That it catches on her clothes?
That it blinds people on the street?And does she ask you how much you paid for it, and you end up telling her the truth, you paid for a 1/4 ct brilliant, and wow, 6 years later ya got this...Again, no complaints about the Rovers.
Spectacular performance.
And NASA is scouting around for the next robotic mission.
Ask some of these guys for ideas, anyone?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1550216.30643154</id>
	<title>Cheers to all those involved!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262630220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Cheers to all those involved. The twin rovers were brilliant!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Cheers to all those involved .
The twin rovers were brilliant !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cheers to all those involved.
The twin rovers were brilliant!</sentencetext>
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	<title>Hats off to the rover designers</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262627760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd just like to take this opportunity to tip my hat to the folks that designed this rover.  It was slated for a 180 day mission, and they just finished up day 2,190.  That's some pretty high quality engineering that must have gone into this project, especially when you take into account it's on *another planet*, so no tech to fiddle with something that's just a bit off here or there.</p><p>No parts, no cleaning, no help at all.  To top that off, it's doing all of this on Mars, which isn't really an electronics friendly environment.  It crash landed on another planet from a rocket ship and worked 10x longer than it was supposed to.</p><p>Well done.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd just like to take this opportunity to tip my hat to the folks that designed this rover .
It was slated for a 180 day mission , and they just finished up day 2,190 .
That 's some pretty high quality engineering that must have gone into this project , especially when you take into account it 's on * another planet * , so no tech to fiddle with something that 's just a bit off here or there.No parts , no cleaning , no help at all .
To top that off , it 's doing all of this on Mars , which is n't really an electronics friendly environment .
It crash landed on another planet from a rocket ship and worked 10x longer than it was supposed to.Well done .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd just like to take this opportunity to tip my hat to the folks that designed this rover.
It was slated for a 180 day mission, and they just finished up day 2,190.
That's some pretty high quality engineering that must have gone into this project, especially when you take into account it's on *another planet*, so no tech to fiddle with something that's just a bit off here or there.No parts, no cleaning, no help at all.
To top that off, it's doing all of this on Mars, which isn't really an electronics friendly environment.
It crash landed on another planet from a rocket ship and worked 10x longer than it was supposed to.Well done.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Way to go, NASA!</title>
	<author>cmiller173</author>
	<datestamp>1262630640000</datestamp>
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	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>As spectacular as some of its failures have been -- like slamming a probe into Mars because one group failed to convert the units the other group was using --<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></div><p>From CNN circa 1999...
</p><p><div class="quote"><p>NASA lost a $125 million Mars orbiter because a Lockheed Martin engineering team used English units of measurement while the agency's team used the more conventional metric system for a key spacecraft operation, according to a review finding released Thursday.
</p><p>...
</p><p>The latest findings show that the spacecraft's propulsion system overheated and was disabled as Climate Orbiter dipped deeply into the atmosphere, JPL spokesman Frank O'Donnell said.
</p><p>That probably stopped the engine from completing its burn, so Climate Orbiter likely plowed through the atmosphere, continued out beyond Mars and now could be orbiting the sun, he said.</p> </div><p>missed it by that much...</p></div>
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<tokenext>As spectacular as some of its failures have been -- like slamming a probe into Mars because one group failed to convert the units the other group was using -- ...From CNN circa 1999.. . NASA lost a $ 125 million Mars orbiter because a Lockheed Martin engineering team used English units of measurement while the agency 's team used the more conventional metric system for a key spacecraft operation , according to a review finding released Thursday .
.. . The latest findings show that the spacecraft 's propulsion system overheated and was disabled as Climate Orbiter dipped deeply into the atmosphere , JPL spokesman Frank O'Donnell said .
That probably stopped the engine from completing its burn , so Climate Orbiter likely plowed through the atmosphere , continued out beyond Mars and now could be orbiting the sun , he said .
missed it by that much.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As spectacular as some of its failures have been -- like slamming a probe into Mars because one group failed to convert the units the other group was using -- ...From CNN circa 1999...
NASA lost a $125 million Mars orbiter because a Lockheed Martin engineering team used English units of measurement while the agency's team used the more conventional metric system for a key spacecraft operation, according to a review finding released Thursday.
...
The latest findings show that the spacecraft's propulsion system overheated and was disabled as Climate Orbiter dipped deeply into the atmosphere, JPL spokesman Frank O'Donnell said.
That probably stopped the engine from completing its burn, so Climate Orbiter likely plowed through the atmosphere, continued out beyond Mars and now could be orbiting the sun, he said.
missed it by that much...
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	<title>First man on Mars</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262628840000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Since he seems to have some time on his hands perhaps an easy solution would be sending Tiger Woods to Mars with a sand wedge?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Since he seems to have some time on his hands perhaps an easy solution would be sending Tiger Woods to Mars with a sand wedge ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since he seems to have some time on his hands perhaps an easy solution would be sending Tiger Woods to Mars with a sand wedge?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1550216.30643420</id>
	<title>Re:What happened to their plan from a few days ago</title>
	<author>sznupi</author>
	<datestamp>1262631540000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>OTOH the same atmosphere is able to support dust particles (heck, even dust storms) which cover the panels with...dust. So it might be not so clear-cut.</p><p>From what I've heard, it was more about not knowing enough about dust dynamics in the Martian atmosphere at the time of rover development. Certainly not enough to justify the added complexity. They were surprised at the occasional cleaning effects after all.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>OTOH the same atmosphere is able to support dust particles ( heck , even dust storms ) which cover the panels with...dust .
So it might be not so clear-cut.From what I 've heard , it was more about not knowing enough about dust dynamics in the Martian atmosphere at the time of rover development .
Certainly not enough to justify the added complexity .
They were surprised at the occasional cleaning effects after all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OTOH the same atmosphere is able to support dust particles (heck, even dust storms) which cover the panels with...dust.
So it might be not so clear-cut.From what I've heard, it was more about not knowing enough about dust dynamics in the Martian atmosphere at the time of rover development.
Certainly not enough to justify the added complexity.
They were surprised at the occasional cleaning effects after all.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1550216.30644788</id>
	<title>Re:Hats off to the rover designers</title>
	<author>PingPongBoy</author>
	<datestamp>1262637660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><em>No parts, no cleaning</em></p><p>Mars has been doing the cleaning. The wind has been cleaning the solar panels, and maybe the wind will have to either clear away the sand from the rover wheels or bury it.</p><p>I wonder is snake locomotion has been tried. Turn the steering wheels to the side (or is it steered like a tank?) and slither around to smooth out the ground underneath. Typically when a wheel is stuck, it is in a depression surrounded by loose material - slithering pushes aways the surrounding hills and permits a hill-free space to create momentum. The momentum should be used to plow away the hills by a back and forth motion though. Trying to drive over the mini hills can be futile because you end up in fresh loose material and have to start over.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No parts , no cleaningMars has been doing the cleaning .
The wind has been cleaning the solar panels , and maybe the wind will have to either clear away the sand from the rover wheels or bury it.I wonder is snake locomotion has been tried .
Turn the steering wheels to the side ( or is it steered like a tank ?
) and slither around to smooth out the ground underneath .
Typically when a wheel is stuck , it is in a depression surrounded by loose material - slithering pushes aways the surrounding hills and permits a hill-free space to create momentum .
The momentum should be used to plow away the hills by a back and forth motion though .
Trying to drive over the mini hills can be futile because you end up in fresh loose material and have to start over .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No parts, no cleaningMars has been doing the cleaning.
The wind has been cleaning the solar panels, and maybe the wind will have to either clear away the sand from the rover wheels or bury it.I wonder is snake locomotion has been tried.
Turn the steering wheels to the side (or is it steered like a tank?
) and slither around to smooth out the ground underneath.
Typically when a wheel is stuck, it is in a depression surrounded by loose material - slithering pushes aways the surrounding hills and permits a hill-free space to create momentum.
The momentum should be used to plow away the hills by a back and forth motion though.
Trying to drive over the mini hills can be futile because you end up in fresh loose material and have to start over.</sentencetext>
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	<title>A question for NASA</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262631780000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>Has anyone at NASA tried contacting their local truck loving redneck to see if they could get it unstuck? You know, right before abandoning their multi-million dollar rover, just let their local mud loving red neck (with years of experience offroad) go to work and see what they can do. Once the engineers have given up, I can't see the harm, and there's that given chance that they can get it out.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Has anyone at NASA tried contacting their local truck loving redneck to see if they could get it unstuck ?
You know , right before abandoning their multi-million dollar rover , just let their local mud loving red neck ( with years of experience offroad ) go to work and see what they can do .
Once the engineers have given up , I ca n't see the harm , and there 's that given chance that they can get it out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Has anyone at NASA tried contacting their local truck loving redneck to see if they could get it unstuck?
You know, right before abandoning their multi-million dollar rover, just let their local mud loving red neck (with years of experience offroad) go to work and see what they can do.
Once the engineers have given up, I can't see the harm, and there's that given chance that they can get it out.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1550216.30644104</id>
	<title>Re:Is there not 2 of them?</title>
	<author>LMacG</author>
	<datestamp>1262634420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, there are two of them.  They landed on opposite sides of the planet, so it's not like <i>Spirit</i> can just yell across the canyon to his buddy.  In fact, <i>Opportunity</i> has travelled less than 12 miles in the six years it's been there.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , there are two of them .
They landed on opposite sides of the planet , so it 's not like Spirit can just yell across the canyon to his buddy .
In fact , Opportunity has travelled less than 12 miles in the six years it 's been there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, there are two of them.
They landed on opposite sides of the planet, so it's not like Spirit can just yell across the canyon to his buddy.
In fact, Opportunity has travelled less than 12 miles in the six years it's been there.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:What happened to their plan from a few days ago</title>
	<author>Khyber</author>
	<datestamp>1262632080000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>atmosphere in mars is 1/10 as thick at only 1\% the pressure of earth.</p><p>fans would be useless.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>atmosphere in mars is 1/10 as thick at only 1 \ % the pressure of earth.fans would be useless .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>atmosphere in mars is 1/10 as thick at only 1\% the pressure of earth.fans would be useless.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Wont end ....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262626860000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>It won't come to an end, it will just become a stationary astronomy platform.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It wo n't come to an end , it will just become a stationary astronomy platform .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It won't come to an end, it will just become a stationary astronomy platform.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:What happened to their plan from a few days ago</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1262636160000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>God what coincidences always seem to await me. When I got back from lunch the photo on my screen saver was the rover's wheel when it was stuck in the dirt the last time. Then I log onto slashdot and look what the topic is!</p><p><i> if you're putting a robot on a sand planet, wouldn't it kind of make sense to have some fans to blow off the sand from the solar panels?</i></p><p>They were only designed to last three months, not long enough for dust buildup on the solar panels to matter. Nobody dreamed thses things would still be crawling around Mars six years later. I say "bravo" to the guys who designed these, not "why didn't you..."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>God what coincidences always seem to await me .
When I got back from lunch the photo on my screen saver was the rover 's wheel when it was stuck in the dirt the last time .
Then I log onto slashdot and look what the topic is !
if you 're putting a robot on a sand planet , would n't it kind of make sense to have some fans to blow off the sand from the solar panels ? They were only designed to last three months , not long enough for dust buildup on the solar panels to matter .
Nobody dreamed thses things would still be crawling around Mars six years later .
I say " bravo " to the guys who designed these , not " why did n't you... "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>God what coincidences always seem to await me.
When I got back from lunch the photo on my screen saver was the rover's wheel when it was stuck in the dirt the last time.
Then I log onto slashdot and look what the topic is!
if you're putting a robot on a sand planet, wouldn't it kind of make sense to have some fans to blow off the sand from the solar panels?They were only designed to last three months, not long enough for dust buildup on the solar panels to matter.
Nobody dreamed thses things would still be crawling around Mars six years later.
I say "bravo" to the guys who designed these, not "why didn't you..."</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:What happened to their plan from a few days ago</title>
	<author>bxwatso</author>
	<datestamp>1262631480000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>The Martian atmosphere is so thin that any typical fan could not move the dust, i suspect.  However, you could design the solar panels to tilt and shake the dust off.  Still, they were designed for a few months service, making dust a non-factor.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Martian atmosphere is so thin that any typical fan could not move the dust , i suspect .
However , you could design the solar panels to tilt and shake the dust off .
Still , they were designed for a few months service , making dust a non-factor .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Martian atmosphere is so thin that any typical fan could not move the dust, i suspect.
However, you could design the solar panels to tilt and shake the dust off.
Still, they were designed for a few months service, making dust a non-factor.</sentencetext>
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	<title>One word</title>
	<author>tuxgeek</author>
	<datestamp>1262630940000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Terraforming<br>It worked perfectly in the simulation known as Total Recall</p><p>All we need to do now is send in the Governator to activate the reactor and the Spirit will live again</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>TerraformingIt worked perfectly in the simulation known as Total RecallAll we need to do now is send in the Governator to activate the reactor and the Spirit will live again</tokentext>
<sentencetext>TerraformingIt worked perfectly in the simulation known as Total RecallAll we need to do now is send in the Governator to activate the reactor and the Spirit will live again</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:What happened to their plan from a few days ago</title>
	<author>rbanffy</author>
	<datestamp>1262598600000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>wouldn't it kind of make sense to have some fans to blow off the sand from the solar panels</p></div><p>with all the atmosphere Mars has, the fans would require more power than they could get by blowing the dust off the solar panels.</p></div>
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<tokenext>would n't it kind of make sense to have some fans to blow off the sand from the solar panelswith all the atmosphere Mars has , the fans would require more power than they could get by blowing the dust off the solar panels .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>wouldn't it kind of make sense to have some fans to blow off the sand from the solar panelswith all the atmosphere Mars has, the fans would require more power than they could get by blowing the dust off the solar panels.
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	<title>Re:Hats off to the rover designers</title>
	<author>golfnomad</author>
	<datestamp>1262638560000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'd just like to take this opportunity to tip my hat to the folks that designed this rover.  It was slated for a 180 day mission, and they just finished up day 2,190.  That's some pretty high quality engineering that must have gone into this project, especially when you take into account it's on *another planet*, so no tech to fiddle with something that's just a bit off here or there.</p><p>No parts, no cleaning, no help at all.  To top that off, it's doing all of this on Mars, which isn't really an electronics friendly environment.  It crash landed on another planet from a rocket ship and worked 10x longer than it was supposed to.</p><p>Well done.</p></div><p>2,190 days - 180 days = 2010</p></div>
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<tokenext>I 'd just like to take this opportunity to tip my hat to the folks that designed this rover .
It was slated for a 180 day mission , and they just finished up day 2,190 .
That 's some pretty high quality engineering that must have gone into this project , especially when you take into account it 's on * another planet * , so no tech to fiddle with something that 's just a bit off here or there.No parts , no cleaning , no help at all .
To top that off , it 's doing all of this on Mars , which is n't really an electronics friendly environment .
It crash landed on another planet from a rocket ship and worked 10x longer than it was supposed to.Well done.2,190 days - 180 days = 2010</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd just like to take this opportunity to tip my hat to the folks that designed this rover.
It was slated for a 180 day mission, and they just finished up day 2,190.
That's some pretty high quality engineering that must have gone into this project, especially when you take into account it's on *another planet*, so no tech to fiddle with something that's just a bit off here or there.No parts, no cleaning, no help at all.
To top that off, it's doing all of this on Mars, which isn't really an electronics friendly environment.
It crash landed on another planet from a rocket ship and worked 10x longer than it was supposed to.Well done.2,190 days - 180 days = 2010
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	<title>All Your</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262627100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>planetary explorers will belong to us.</p><p>After we buy Iranian enriched uranium.</p><p>Yours In Honolulu,<br>Kim Jong iL</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>planetary explorers will belong to us.After we buy Iranian enriched uranium.Yours In Honolulu,Kim Jong iL</tokentext>
<sentencetext>planetary explorers will belong to us.After we buy Iranian enriched uranium.Yours In Honolulu,Kim Jong iL</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:What happened to their plan from a few days ago</title>
	<author>Guysmiley777</author>
	<datestamp>1262632080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Also, if you're putting a robot on a sand planet, wouldn't it kind of make sense to have some fans to blow off the sand from the solar panels?</i></p><p>Because it was designed for a 3 month mission. Every ounce of weight added is a massive deal to a project like that where it would either add cost or require weight to be removed from somewhere else. As it was they were really testing the limits of the parachute/rocket/bouncy ball re-entry method.</p><p>If they were really serious about a long duration rover project they would have sent an RTG powered probe... kind of like what the <a href="http://marsprogram.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/" title="nasa.gov">Mars Science Labratory</a> [nasa.gov] will have.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Also , if you 're putting a robot on a sand planet , would n't it kind of make sense to have some fans to blow off the sand from the solar panels ? Because it was designed for a 3 month mission .
Every ounce of weight added is a massive deal to a project like that where it would either add cost or require weight to be removed from somewhere else .
As it was they were really testing the limits of the parachute/rocket/bouncy ball re-entry method.If they were really serious about a long duration rover project they would have sent an RTG powered probe... kind of like what the Mars Science Labratory [ nasa.gov ] will have .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Also, if you're putting a robot on a sand planet, wouldn't it kind of make sense to have some fans to blow off the sand from the solar panels?Because it was designed for a 3 month mission.
Every ounce of weight added is a massive deal to a project like that where it would either add cost or require weight to be removed from somewhere else.
As it was they were really testing the limits of the parachute/rocket/bouncy ball re-entry method.If they were really serious about a long duration rover project they would have sent an RTG powered probe... kind of like what the Mars Science Labratory [nasa.gov] will have.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:What happened to their plan from a few days ago</title>
	<author>khallow</author>
	<datestamp>1262628180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Also, if you're putting a robot on a sand planet, wouldn't it kind of make sense to have some fans to blow off the sand from the solar panels?</p></div><p>Air pressure averages about 1\% of Earth's. There simply isn't enough atmosphere to justify a fan or the power it would draw.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Also , if you 're putting a robot on a sand planet , would n't it kind of make sense to have some fans to blow off the sand from the solar panels ? Air pressure averages about 1 \ % of Earth 's .
There simply is n't enough atmosphere to justify a fan or the power it would draw .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Also, if you're putting a robot on a sand planet, wouldn't it kind of make sense to have some fans to blow off the sand from the solar panels?Air pressure averages about 1\% of Earth's.
There simply isn't enough atmosphere to justify a fan or the power it would draw.
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	<title>Re:What happened to their plan from a few days ago</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262627700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>Every feature is another thing to go wrong and therefore another thing to extensively test. That may not matter so much when you're making luxury automobiles. But it's big deal when you're developing one-off robots to explore another planet. Time spent making sure the fans were actually effective is time that could have been spent improving more important areas, or simply reducing the cost to make the project more feasible.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Every feature is another thing to go wrong and therefore another thing to extensively test .
That may not matter so much when you 're making luxury automobiles .
But it 's big deal when you 're developing one-off robots to explore another planet .
Time spent making sure the fans were actually effective is time that could have been spent improving more important areas , or simply reducing the cost to make the project more feasible .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Every feature is another thing to go wrong and therefore another thing to extensively test.
That may not matter so much when you're making luxury automobiles.
But it's big deal when you're developing one-off robots to explore another planet.
Time spent making sure the fans were actually effective is time that could have been spent improving more important areas, or simply reducing the cost to make the project more feasible.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1550216.30642438</id>
	<title>Re:What happened to their plan from a few days ago</title>
	<author>Speare</author>
	<datestamp>1262627400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Also, if you're putting a robot on a sand planet, wouldn't it kind of make sense to have some fans to blow off the sand from the solar panels?</p><p>Remember, the mission was intended to last at least 90 days, not multiple Mars seasons.  They looked at brushes, cling-film, sliding-film, fans, and anti-static methods.  The weight-to-benefit ratio, and the complexity of any of the approaches, ruled them out for this mission.</p></div></blockquote></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Also , if you 're putting a robot on a sand planet , would n't it kind of make sense to have some fans to blow off the sand from the solar panels ? Remember , the mission was intended to last at least 90 days , not multiple Mars seasons .
They looked at brushes , cling-film , sliding-film , fans , and anti-static methods .
The weight-to-benefit ratio , and the complexity of any of the approaches , ruled them out for this mission .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Also, if you're putting a robot on a sand planet, wouldn't it kind of make sense to have some fans to blow off the sand from the solar panels?Remember, the mission was intended to last at least 90 days, not multiple Mars seasons.
They looked at brushes, cling-film, sliding-film, fans, and anti-static methods.
The weight-to-benefit ratio, and the complexity of any of the approaches, ruled them out for this mission.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1550216.30643316</id>
	<title>Too bad...</title>
	<author>EriktheGreen</author>
	<datestamp>1262631060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Too bad the design didn't include a wind generator...something with hugely oversized blades on a light, expanding tower, to catch the thin air.  It would look like a giant palm tree walking across mars.
</p><p>
Even better, how about a rover with a giant sail, rolling across the landscape using spoked free wheels rather than powered ones, or even wide skis.
</p><p>
The silly thing is that the way these missions are designed, it costs NASA a bundle to keep the lights on.  Not on the rover of course, but all the telecom equipment and people.  If NASA designed a low cost communication system that could support these things for years, then they could just leave the thing operating and hand it over to a secondary investigator or intern to do science with.  Or even a class of school kids.
</p><p>
We could have dozens of these things operating on the moon, controlled directly from earth stations, for years at a time.
</p><p>
Erik
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Too bad the design did n't include a wind generator...something with hugely oversized blades on a light , expanding tower , to catch the thin air .
It would look like a giant palm tree walking across mars .
Even better , how about a rover with a giant sail , rolling across the landscape using spoked free wheels rather than powered ones , or even wide skis .
The silly thing is that the way these missions are designed , it costs NASA a bundle to keep the lights on .
Not on the rover of course , but all the telecom equipment and people .
If NASA designed a low cost communication system that could support these things for years , then they could just leave the thing operating and hand it over to a secondary investigator or intern to do science with .
Or even a class of school kids .
We could have dozens of these things operating on the moon , controlled directly from earth stations , for years at a time .
Erik</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Too bad the design didn't include a wind generator...something with hugely oversized blades on a light, expanding tower, to catch the thin air.
It would look like a giant palm tree walking across mars.
Even better, how about a rover with a giant sail, rolling across the landscape using spoked free wheels rather than powered ones, or even wide skis.
The silly thing is that the way these missions are designed, it costs NASA a bundle to keep the lights on.
Not on the rover of course, but all the telecom equipment and people.
If NASA designed a low cost communication system that could support these things for years, then they could just leave the thing operating and hand it over to a secondary investigator or intern to do science with.
Or even a class of school kids.
We could have dozens of these things operating on the moon, controlled directly from earth stations, for years at a time.
Erik
</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1550216.30644618</id>
	<title>Another failure by NASA</title>
	<author>jocknerd</author>
	<datestamp>1262636700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>TIC. Definitely one of NASA's top 5 accomplishments.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>TIC .
Definitely one of NASA 's top 5 accomplishments .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>TIC.
Definitely one of NASA's top 5 accomplishments.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1550216.30644308</id>
	<title>Re:Way to go, NASA!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262635380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>As spectacular as some of its failures have been -- like slamming a probe into Mars <i>because one group failed to convert the units the other group was using</i> -- it's important to recognize that NASA is capable of equally spectacular successes. These rovers have done way more than anyone expected and helped us learn a tremendous amount about Mars. We definitely got more than our money's worth on this project, and the scientists and engineers whose hard work made it happen deserve some serious accolades.</p></div><p>Your analysis seems to indicate that NASA is at fault for not knowing that JPL was using a non-standard measurement system, nor properly checking on their contractors responsibilities.  In fact, JPL was in breach of contract for using the Imperial system and then further for not indicating that they were when its standard practice to use metric.  In the end, yes, NASA had the mud on their face and had to take responsibility, but the only error on their part was in relying on others and not having the budget to do it all themselves.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>As spectacular as some of its failures have been -- like slamming a probe into Mars because one group failed to convert the units the other group was using -- it 's important to recognize that NASA is capable of equally spectacular successes .
These rovers have done way more than anyone expected and helped us learn a tremendous amount about Mars .
We definitely got more than our money 's worth on this project , and the scientists and engineers whose hard work made it happen deserve some serious accolades.Your analysis seems to indicate that NASA is at fault for not knowing that JPL was using a non-standard measurement system , nor properly checking on their contractors responsibilities .
In fact , JPL was in breach of contract for using the Imperial system and then further for not indicating that they were when its standard practice to use metric .
In the end , yes , NASA had the mud on their face and had to take responsibility , but the only error on their part was in relying on others and not having the budget to do it all themselves .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As spectacular as some of its failures have been -- like slamming a probe into Mars because one group failed to convert the units the other group was using -- it's important to recognize that NASA is capable of equally spectacular successes.
These rovers have done way more than anyone expected and helped us learn a tremendous amount about Mars.
We definitely got more than our money's worth on this project, and the scientists and engineers whose hard work made it happen deserve some serious accolades.Your analysis seems to indicate that NASA is at fault for not knowing that JPL was using a non-standard measurement system, nor properly checking on their contractors responsibilities.
In fact, JPL was in breach of contract for using the Imperial system and then further for not indicating that they were when its standard practice to use metric.
In the end, yes, NASA had the mud on their face and had to take responsibility, but the only error on their part was in relying on others and not having the budget to do it all themselves.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1550216.30644452</id>
	<title>Re:What happened to their plan from a few days ago</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262636040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And the 6-year old rover is more likely to give you a blow job than your girlfriend is to give you one for a 24-ct diamond that cost you the same a 1/4-ct diamond.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And the 6-year old rover is more likely to give you a blow job than your girlfriend is to give you one for a 24-ct diamond that cost you the same a 1/4-ct diamond .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And the 6-year old rover is more likely to give you a blow job than your girlfriend is to give you one for a 24-ct diamond that cost you the same a 1/4-ct diamond.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1550216.30642544</id>
	<title>Way to go, NASA!</title>
	<author>Angst Badger</author>
	<datestamp>1262627760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As spectacular as some of its failures have been -- like slamming a probe into Mars because one group failed to convert the units the other group was using -- it's important to recognize that NASA is capable of equally spectacular successes. These rovers have done way more than anyone expected and helped us learn a tremendous amount about Mars. We definitely got more than our money's worth on this project, and the scientists and engineers whose hard work made it happen deserve some serious accolades.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As spectacular as some of its failures have been -- like slamming a probe into Mars because one group failed to convert the units the other group was using -- it 's important to recognize that NASA is capable of equally spectacular successes .
These rovers have done way more than anyone expected and helped us learn a tremendous amount about Mars .
We definitely got more than our money 's worth on this project , and the scientists and engineers whose hard work made it happen deserve some serious accolades .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As spectacular as some of its failures have been -- like slamming a probe into Mars because one group failed to convert the units the other group was using -- it's important to recognize that NASA is capable of equally spectacular successes.
These rovers have done way more than anyone expected and helped us learn a tremendous amount about Mars.
We definitely got more than our money's worth on this project, and the scientists and engineers whose hard work made it happen deserve some serious accolades.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1550216.30643558</id>
	<title>Spirit to NASA</title>
	<author>roots0</author>
	<datestamp>1262632140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>&ldquo;There are levels of survival we are willing to accept.&rdquo;</htmltext>
<tokenext>   There are levels of survival we are willing to accept.   </tokentext>
<sentencetext>“There are levels of survival we are willing to accept.”</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1550216.30643348</id>
	<title>I don't understand this</title>
	<author>SnarfQuest</author>
	<datestamp>1262631180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't understand this article. Can someone make a car analogy for me?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't understand this article .
Can someone make a car analogy for me ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't understand this article.
Can someone make a car analogy for me?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1550216.30646644</id>
	<title>Re:I don't understand this</title>
	<author>Tablizer</author>
	<datestamp>1262601420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I don't understand this article. Can someone make a car analogy for me?</p></div></blockquote><p>It's like a slashdot server where the techs have gone on vacation and you know it's about to be flooded and fried because of a popular article about winter that is auto-queued 2 months away. Oh, you said car? Fsck, this is slashdot, dude.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't understand this article .
Can someone make a car analogy for me ? It 's like a slashdot server where the techs have gone on vacation and you know it 's about to be flooded and fried because of a popular article about winter that is auto-queued 2 months away .
Oh , you said car ?
Fsck , this is slashdot , dude .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't understand this article.
Can someone make a car analogy for me?It's like a slashdot server where the techs have gone on vacation and you know it's about to be flooded and fried because of a popular article about winter that is auto-queued 2 months away.
Oh, you said car?
Fsck, this is slashdot, dude.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1550216.30645880</id>
	<title>Re:Is there not 2 of them?</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1262598360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They're on opposite hemispheres of Mars.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They 're on opposite hemispheres of Mars .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They're on opposite hemispheres of Mars.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1550216.30643864</id>
	<title>Re:What happened to their plan from a few days ago</title>
	<author>Lumpy</author>
	<datestamp>1262633220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Two cans of computer duster in quick draw holsters.  DUH!</p><p>This is not rocket science here...... Oh wait....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Two cans of computer duster in quick draw holsters .
DUH ! This is not rocket science here...... Oh wait... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Two cans of computer duster in quick draw holsters.
DUH!This is not rocket science here...... Oh wait....</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1550216.30645038</id>
	<title>Re:Is there not 2 of them?</title>
	<author>gstoddart</author>
	<datestamp>1262638680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Correct me if I am wrong, I probably am, but I thought there were 2 of these rovers, could the other not lend a hand to get the first out of the mud/sand, or wipe off his panels for him???</p></div></blockquote><p>As has already been pointed out, they're <em>very</em> far apart from one another on the planet -- many orders of magnitude further than either have traveled yet, and <em>way</em> more than either of them could ever possibly travel.  Like, around the planet kind of distances.</p><p>However, since the second one was added as a bonus (and I guess a failsafe) on top of the mission parameters without too much extra cost, they've managed to get an extraordinary amount of value out of these two little suckers.  Over 6 years vs around 3 months of initially planned mission duration.  It's the 1973 Honda Civic of space exploration -- beaten, battered, dusty, and no longer quite state of the art, but running nonetheless.</p><p>We'll all lament the final death of these probes (OK, some of us will<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-P), but they've performed admirably.  We know they'll both succumb to the cold and dust before long -- it's mostly just astounding how long they've managed to keep 'em going.  The sad thing is, after they've been performing on the planet for so long, I'm not even sure there's a replacement mission in the works in any meaningful timeline.</p><p>Cheers</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Correct me if I am wrong , I probably am , but I thought there were 2 of these rovers , could the other not lend a hand to get the first out of the mud/sand , or wipe off his panels for him ? ?
? As has already been pointed out , they 're very far apart from one another on the planet -- many orders of magnitude further than either have traveled yet , and way more than either of them could ever possibly travel .
Like , around the planet kind of distances.However , since the second one was added as a bonus ( and I guess a failsafe ) on top of the mission parameters without too much extra cost , they 've managed to get an extraordinary amount of value out of these two little suckers .
Over 6 years vs around 3 months of initially planned mission duration .
It 's the 1973 Honda Civic of space exploration -- beaten , battered , dusty , and no longer quite state of the art , but running nonetheless.We 'll all lament the final death of these probes ( OK , some of us will : -P ) , but they 've performed admirably .
We know they 'll both succumb to the cold and dust before long -- it 's mostly just astounding how long they 've managed to keep 'em going .
The sad thing is , after they 've been performing on the planet for so long , I 'm not even sure there 's a replacement mission in the works in any meaningful timeline.Cheers</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Correct me if I am wrong, I probably am, but I thought there were 2 of these rovers, could the other not lend a hand to get the first out of the mud/sand, or wipe off his panels for him??
?As has already been pointed out, they're very far apart from one another on the planet -- many orders of magnitude further than either have traveled yet, and way more than either of them could ever possibly travel.
Like, around the planet kind of distances.However, since the second one was added as a bonus (and I guess a failsafe) on top of the mission parameters without too much extra cost, they've managed to get an extraordinary amount of value out of these two little suckers.
Over 6 years vs around 3 months of initially planned mission duration.
It's the 1973 Honda Civic of space exploration -- beaten, battered, dusty, and no longer quite state of the art, but running nonetheless.We'll all lament the final death of these probes (OK, some of us will :-P), but they've performed admirably.
We know they'll both succumb to the cold and dust before long -- it's mostly just astounding how long they've managed to keep 'em going.
The sad thing is, after they've been performing on the planet for so long, I'm not even sure there's a replacement mission in the works in any meaningful timeline.Cheers
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1550216.30642572</id>
	<title>All is not lost</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262627880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One option being considered is spinning the wheels on one side in the hope of tilting the solar panels to face the winter sun. Even if Spirit never travels again, all is not lost. There is a radio experiment for measuring the wobble of Mars as it spins that requires the rover to stay in one place. The key is surviving the upcoming winter, which may depend on a fortuitous wind blowing accumulated dust off the solar panels.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One option being considered is spinning the wheels on one side in the hope of tilting the solar panels to face the winter sun .
Even if Spirit never travels again , all is not lost .
There is a radio experiment for measuring the wobble of Mars as it spins that requires the rover to stay in one place .
The key is surviving the upcoming winter , which may depend on a fortuitous wind blowing accumulated dust off the solar panels .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One option being considered is spinning the wheels on one side in the hope of tilting the solar panels to face the winter sun.
Even if Spirit never travels again, all is not lost.
There is a radio experiment for measuring the wobble of Mars as it spins that requires the rover to stay in one place.
The key is surviving the upcoming winter, which may depend on a fortuitous wind blowing accumulated dust off the solar panels.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1550216.30643668</id>
	<title>Is there not 2 of them?</title>
	<author>hesaigo999ca</author>
	<datestamp>1262632500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Correct me if I am wrong, I probably am, but I thought there were 2 of these rovers, could the other not lend a hand to get the first out of the mud/sand, or wipe off his panels for him???</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Correct me if I am wrong , I probably am , but I thought there were 2 of these rovers , could the other not lend a hand to get the first out of the mud/sand , or wipe off his panels for him ? ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Correct me if I am wrong, I probably am, but I thought there were 2 of these rovers, could the other not lend a hand to get the first out of the mud/sand, or wipe off his panels for him??
?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1550216.30643586</id>
	<title>Stuck in the Sand?</title>
	<author>sexconker</author>
	<datestamp>1262632260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"This is the end of the road, Galvatron!"</p><p>Fucking Rodimus.<br>That's Spirit, not Galvatron.<br>Even with the Matrix you're still a fuckup.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" This is the end of the road , Galvatron !
" Fucking Rodimus.That 's Spirit , not Galvatron.Even with the Matrix you 're still a fuckup .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"This is the end of the road, Galvatron!
"Fucking Rodimus.That's Spirit, not Galvatron.Even with the Matrix you're still a fuckup.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1550216.30643112</id>
	<title>NASA did it on purpose.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262629980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>NASA got the little rover stuck on purpose. So they could propose a manned rescue mission.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>NASA got the little rover stuck on purpose .
So they could propose a manned rescue mission .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>NASA got the little rover stuck on purpose.
So they could propose a manned rescue mission.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1550216.30643070</id>
	<title>Re:Anyone seen the movie Saw?</title>
	<author>sznupi</author>
	<datestamp>1262629860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The rovers are far away, they will never meet (well, not on their own accord; who knows, retrieval teams might keep them in one place before sending to separate museums, for example)</p><p>And we want it that way - what's the point of two rovers if they explore the same strip of the planet?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The rovers are far away , they will never meet ( well , not on their own accord ; who knows , retrieval teams might keep them in one place before sending to separate museums , for example ) And we want it that way - what 's the point of two rovers if they explore the same strip of the planet ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The rovers are far away, they will never meet (well, not on their own accord; who knows, retrieval teams might keep them in one place before sending to separate museums, for example)And we want it that way - what's the point of two rovers if they explore the same strip of the planet?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1550216.30643038</id>
	<title>It's not dead</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262629680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's just pining for the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical\_albedo\_features\_on\_Mars#Common\_feature\_names" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">sinuses</a> [wikipedia.org].</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's just pining for the sinuses [ wikipedia.org ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's just pining for the sinuses [wikipedia.org].</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1550216.30643478</id>
	<title>Re:Hats off to the rover designers</title>
	<author>gohsthb</author>
	<datestamp>1262631780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Maybe that's why it lasted so long. . . No tech to 'fiddle' with it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe that 's why it lasted so long .
. .
No tech to 'fiddle ' with it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe that's why it lasted so long.
. .
No tech to 'fiddle' with it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1550216.30646520</id>
	<title>Re:What happened to their plan from a few days ago</title>
	<author>Tablizer</author>
	<datestamp>1262600880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>wouldn't it kind of make sense to have some fans to blow off the sand from the solar panels?</p></div></blockquote><p>There's not enough air on Mars to make for effective fans. Compressed air may fare better. However, that would have added additional weight and complexity, and is untried.</p><p>For example, they didn't know whether the dust particles were clingly or loose during the design. If they were clingly, then compressed air may make the problem worse. Based on observation, it's not that clingy, but that's information that didn't exist at design time.</p><p>I'd suggest instead to have a thin but long robotic arm with both a brush and a little shovel. The arm could be used to both brush the panels and dig out the wheels. But that's all shoulda woulda coulda as hindsight.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>would n't it kind of make sense to have some fans to blow off the sand from the solar panels ? There 's not enough air on Mars to make for effective fans .
Compressed air may fare better .
However , that would have added additional weight and complexity , and is untried.For example , they did n't know whether the dust particles were clingly or loose during the design .
If they were clingly , then compressed air may make the problem worse .
Based on observation , it 's not that clingy , but that 's information that did n't exist at design time.I 'd suggest instead to have a thin but long robotic arm with both a brush and a little shovel .
The arm could be used to both brush the panels and dig out the wheels .
But that 's all shoulda woulda coulda as hindsight .
         </tokentext>
<sentencetext>wouldn't it kind of make sense to have some fans to blow off the sand from the solar panels?There's not enough air on Mars to make for effective fans.
Compressed air may fare better.
However, that would have added additional weight and complexity, and is untried.For example, they didn't know whether the dust particles were clingly or loose during the design.
If they were clingly, then compressed air may make the problem worse.
Based on observation, it's not that clingy, but that's information that didn't exist at design time.I'd suggest instead to have a thin but long robotic arm with both a brush and a little shovel.
The arm could be used to both brush the panels and dig out the wheels.
But that's all shoulda woulda coulda as hindsight.
         
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1550216.30642468</id>
	<title>Anyone seen the movie Saw?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262627520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Clearly the rover isn't making much progress with it's 'dead foot' stuck in the sand, so why can't we cut it off? Yes, I know that wasn't part of the package, but it'd be pretty cool if the Rover could dispatch its lifeless appendage with a saw, or laser, and continue on its merry way. Oh well...</p><p>I don't recall the location of the other rover, but can that scoot over to the broke down r.c. car...err rover and help it out? Worst case is that one gets stuck, but at least they won't be lonely then.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>These things remind me of the little engine that could! Keep on truckin'!!!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Clearly the rover is n't making much progress with it 's 'dead foot ' stuck in the sand , so why ca n't we cut it off ?
Yes , I know that was n't part of the package , but it 'd be pretty cool if the Rover could dispatch its lifeless appendage with a saw , or laser , and continue on its merry way .
Oh well...I do n't recall the location of the other rover , but can that scoot over to the broke down r.c .
car...err rover and help it out ?
Worst case is that one gets stuck , but at least they wo n't be lonely then .
: ) These things remind me of the little engine that could !
Keep on truckin ' ! ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Clearly the rover isn't making much progress with it's 'dead foot' stuck in the sand, so why can't we cut it off?
Yes, I know that wasn't part of the package, but it'd be pretty cool if the Rover could dispatch its lifeless appendage with a saw, or laser, and continue on its merry way.
Oh well...I don't recall the location of the other rover, but can that scoot over to the broke down r.c.
car...err rover and help it out?
Worst case is that one gets stuck, but at least they won't be lonely then.
:)These things remind me of the little engine that could!
Keep on truckin'!!!
!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1550216.30643332</id>
	<title>Re:AMAZING!!!!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262631120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>..what happens when market forces don't dictate a design to fail by date.<br>If you had a warranty out on the rover it would have died in transit!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>..what happens when market forces do n't dictate a design to fail by date.If you had a warranty out on the rover it would have died in transit !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>..what happens when market forces don't dictate a design to fail by date.If you had a warranty out on the rover it would have died in transit!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1550216.30642678</id>
	<title>Sad Face. :(</title>
	<author>lwap0</author>
	<datestamp>1262628240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's not over yet for Spirit! Still, should the unfortunate happen, I'll pour out a bottle of Ye Olde Fortran in memoriam.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not over yet for Spirit !
Still , should the unfortunate happen , I 'll pour out a bottle of Ye Olde Fortran in memoriam .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not over yet for Spirit!
Still, should the unfortunate happen, I'll pour out a bottle of Ye Olde Fortran in memoriam.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1550216.30642538</id>
	<title>Another Failure</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262627760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Cue the media reports of another NASA failure in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1<nobr> <wbr></nobr>....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Cue the media reports of another NASA failure in 5 , 4 , 3 , 2 , 1 ... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cue the media reports of another NASA failure in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 ....</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1550216.30645108</id>
	<title>Re:What happened to their plan from a few days ago</title>
	<author>Jeffrey\_Walsh VA</author>
	<datestamp>1262595840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>fans to blow off the sand</i> <br>Fans? Even in Earth's atmosphere it would probably be better to just tilt the panels inverted and maybe agitate them. From the article: "Dead in its tracks, Spirit cannot shake off the Martian dust"; shaking seems to work but only if the rover is mobile.</htmltext>
<tokenext>fans to blow off the sand Fans ?
Even in Earth 's atmosphere it would probably be better to just tilt the panels inverted and maybe agitate them .
From the article : " Dead in its tracks , Spirit can not shake off the Martian dust " ; shaking seems to work but only if the rover is mobile .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>fans to blow off the sand Fans?
Even in Earth's atmosphere it would probably be better to just tilt the panels inverted and maybe agitate them.
From the article: "Dead in its tracks, Spirit cannot shake off the Martian dust"; shaking seems to work but only if the rover is mobile.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_04_1550216.30643424</id>
	<title>How to make a 3 month stint last 6 years</title>
	<author>viking80</author>
	<datestamp>1262631600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Have you ever landed a dream job with dream pay, only to realize it is just a 3 month contract? What do you do to extend it, and for how long can you do that?<br>Here are the rules:<br>1. Dont brake anything you need to do your job.<br>2. Do everything really slow. And I mean really slow:<br>
&nbsp; -Tell your boss it will take 6 month to make a right turn.<br>
&nbsp; -Be a hero when you are able to do it in 3 months, stop the vehicle, take a lot of pictures, have some discussions, test the right turn in a sandbox, discuss more etc.<br>3. Never take any risks. Test anything you plan to do in a sandbox again and again. It is actually fun to drive an RC car. If the car is stuck, you are unemployed. To the public, call it mission risk management. To your wife, call it food on the table management.</p><p>Have fun</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Have you ever landed a dream job with dream pay , only to realize it is just a 3 month contract ?
What do you do to extend it , and for how long can you do that ? Here are the rules : 1 .
Dont brake anything you need to do your job.2 .
Do everything really slow .
And I mean really slow :   -Tell your boss it will take 6 month to make a right turn .
  -Be a hero when you are able to do it in 3 months , stop the vehicle , take a lot of pictures , have some discussions , test the right turn in a sandbox , discuss more etc.3 .
Never take any risks .
Test anything you plan to do in a sandbox again and again .
It is actually fun to drive an RC car .
If the car is stuck , you are unemployed .
To the public , call it mission risk management .
To your wife , call it food on the table management.Have fun</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have you ever landed a dream job with dream pay, only to realize it is just a 3 month contract?
What do you do to extend it, and for how long can you do that?Here are the rules:1.
Dont brake anything you need to do your job.2.
Do everything really slow.
And I mean really slow:
  -Tell your boss it will take 6 month to make a right turn.
  -Be a hero when you are able to do it in 3 months, stop the vehicle, take a lot of pictures, have some discussions, test the right turn in a sandbox, discuss more etc.3.
Never take any risks.
Test anything you plan to do in a sandbox again and again.
It is actually fun to drive an RC car.
If the car is stuck, you are unemployed.
To the public, call it mission risk management.
To your wife, call it food on the table management.Have fun</sentencetext>
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