<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_01_01_1938210</id>
	<title>TSA Withdraws Subpoenas Against Bloggers</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1262375040000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>wwphx writes <i>"In the wake of public outcry against the Transportation Security Administration for  <a href="http://news.slashdot.org/story/09/12/31/1417212/TSA-Subpoenas-Bloggers-Over-New-Security-Directive?art\_pos=19">serving civil subpoenas on two bloggers</a>, the government agency has <a href="http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/12/tsa-withdraws-subpoenas/">canceled the legal action and apologized</a> for the strong-arm tactics agents used."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>wwphx writes " In the wake of public outcry against the Transportation Security Administration for serving civil subpoenas on two bloggers , the government agency has canceled the legal action and apologized for the strong-arm tactics agents used .
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<sentencetext>wwphx writes "In the wake of public outcry against the Transportation Security Administration for  serving civil subpoenas on two bloggers, the government agency has canceled the legal action and apologized for the strong-arm tactics agents used.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30615664</id>
	<title>"Whoops, sorry"</title>
	<author>Arancaytar</author>
	<datestamp>1262378700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"We didn't realize our dick move would receive so much public attention."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" We did n't realize our dick move would receive so much public attention .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"We didn't realize our dick move would receive so much public attention.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30619680</id>
	<title>Re:"Whoops, sorry"</title>
	<author>The Wild Norseman</author>
	<datestamp>1262369760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Frischling says the laptop was returned to him with tons and tons of bad sectors and a corrupt operating system. The audio on his computer has also stopped working, and a red light glows from the audio jack.</p></div><p>So was that metric tons, short tons, or shit tons of bad sectors?  I mean, it's bad enough we all can't decide on what the fuck a megabyte is...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Frischling says the laptop was returned to him with tons and tons of bad sectors and a corrupt operating system .
The audio on his computer has also stopped working , and a red light glows from the audio jack.So was that metric tons , short tons , or shit tons of bad sectors ?
I mean , it 's bad enough we all ca n't decide on what the fuck a megabyte is.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Frischling says the laptop was returned to him with tons and tons of bad sectors and a corrupt operating system.
The audio on his computer has also stopped working, and a red light glows from the audio jack.So was that metric tons, short tons, or shit tons of bad sectors?
I mean, it's bad enough we all can't decide on what the fuck a megabyte is...
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30615888</id>
	<title>Violation of rights under color of authority</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262337540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I believe that there is a federal law against the violation of civil rights under color of authority. That is to say, using the power of a law authority (police, FBI, TSA, whatever) to violate the rights of a citizen. As I understand it, this is a federal felony. I hope these bloggers and others who the TSA applied the "strong arm" to with these illegally obtained supoenas will make the appropriate criminal complaints. Hopefully, the ACLU will also help to deal with this outrageous behavior on the part of the TSA.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I believe that there is a federal law against the violation of civil rights under color of authority .
That is to say , using the power of a law authority ( police , FBI , TSA , whatever ) to violate the rights of a citizen .
As I understand it , this is a federal felony .
I hope these bloggers and others who the TSA applied the " strong arm " to with these illegally obtained supoenas will make the appropriate criminal complaints .
Hopefully , the ACLU will also help to deal with this outrageous behavior on the part of the TSA .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I believe that there is a federal law against the violation of civil rights under color of authority.
That is to say, using the power of a law authority (police, FBI, TSA, whatever) to violate the rights of a citizen.
As I understand it, this is a federal felony.
I hope these bloggers and others who the TSA applied the "strong arm" to with these illegally obtained supoenas will make the appropriate criminal complaints.
Hopefully, the ACLU will also help to deal with this outrageous behavior on the part of the TSA.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30615946</id>
	<title>Re:"Whoops, sorry"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262338080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>"We'll try again later and hope the public doesn't pay attention the next time."</htmltext>
<tokenext>" We 'll try again later and hope the public does n't pay attention the next time .
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<sentencetext>"We'll try again later and hope the public doesn't pay attention the next time.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30615922</id>
	<title>Hopefully...</title>
	<author>copponex</author>
	<datestamp>1262337840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hopefully the first in a long line of realizations that when you do something stupid publicly, you can't harass or sue someone for pointing that out.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hopefully the first in a long line of realizations that when you do something stupid publicly , you ca n't harass or sue someone for pointing that out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hopefully the first in a long line of realizations that when you do something stupid publicly, you can't harass or sue someone for pointing that out.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30615936</id>
	<title>Re:"Whoops, sorry"</title>
	<author>arslion</author>
	<datestamp>1262337960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>i agree with you...

<a href="http://topentertainmentblog.com/" title="topentertainmentblog.com" rel="nofollow">http://topentertainmentblog.com/</a> [topentertainmentblog.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>i agree with you.. . http : //topentertainmentblog.com/ [ topentertainmentblog.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i agree with you...

http://topentertainmentblog.com/ [topentertainmentblog.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30615702</id>
	<title>Pity</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262379000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Since their new guideline was published everyone is going to know about these changes in security. If only these bloggers would have kept quiet, the only ones who would know would be the millions who go through the airports. Someone has to pay for a lapse in secrecy of this magnitude!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Since their new guideline was published everyone is going to know about these changes in security .
If only these bloggers would have kept quiet , the only ones who would know would be the millions who go through the airports .
Someone has to pay for a lapse in secrecy of this magnitude !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since their new guideline was published everyone is going to know about these changes in security.
If only these bloggers would have kept quiet, the only ones who would know would be the millions who go through the airports.
Someone has to pay for a lapse in secrecy of this magnitude!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30616002</id>
	<title>Re:And of course...</title>
	<author>Aladrin</author>
	<datestamp>1262338620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's really sad how true this is.  I used to think 'I'll just comply and everything will be perfectly fine and I can be on my way.'  Then somewhere along the way I realized that cops who want to do improper searches are assholes to start with, and they've already decided you are guilty and will treat you as such.  If you make them do the paperwork first, then there -is- paperwork to show that it happened and you can't get into a situation where it's their word against yours that it even happened.</p><p>As for the laptop...  I know when they search a car or house, they have to put things back as they are.  Does that not apply to electronics as well?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's really sad how true this is .
I used to think 'I 'll just comply and everything will be perfectly fine and I can be on my way .
' Then somewhere along the way I realized that cops who want to do improper searches are assholes to start with , and they 've already decided you are guilty and will treat you as such .
If you make them do the paperwork first , then there -is- paperwork to show that it happened and you ca n't get into a situation where it 's their word against yours that it even happened.As for the laptop... I know when they search a car or house , they have to put things back as they are .
Does that not apply to electronics as well ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's really sad how true this is.
I used to think 'I'll just comply and everything will be perfectly fine and I can be on my way.
'  Then somewhere along the way I realized that cops who want to do improper searches are assholes to start with, and they've already decided you are guilty and will treat you as such.
If you make them do the paperwork first, then there -is- paperwork to show that it happened and you can't get into a situation where it's their word against yours that it even happened.As for the laptop...  I know when they search a car or house, they have to put things back as they are.
Does that not apply to electronics as well?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30616394</id>
	<title>Re:"Whoops, sorry"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262342760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One of these days government agencies will realize that they can't pull shit like they did back in the 50's era of commie hunting. Information and public dissent spreads like wildfire thanks to the internet and social media.  The quicker the assholes that run our government learn this, the happier everybody will be.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One of these days government agencies will realize that they ca n't pull shit like they did back in the 50 's era of commie hunting .
Information and public dissent spreads like wildfire thanks to the internet and social media .
The quicker the assholes that run our government learn this , the happier everybody will be .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One of these days government agencies will realize that they can't pull shit like they did back in the 50's era of commie hunting.
Information and public dissent spreads like wildfire thanks to the internet and social media.
The quicker the assholes that run our government learn this, the happier everybody will be.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30616434</id>
	<title>Subpoena probably wasn't valid.</title>
	<author>Animats</author>
	<datestamp>1262343000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
As I <a href="http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1494416&amp;cid=30610176&amp;art\_pos=2" title="slashdot.org">mentioned yesterday</a> [slashdot.org]. the subpoena probably wasn't valid.  Once one of the recipients announced he would challenge it in court, the TSA probably withdrew it because they were going to look even dumber when a Federal judge threw it out.
</p><p>
There are some real questions about a law enforcement organization having administrative subpoena power.
In criminal investigations, subpoenas should come from a judge.
Congress has repeatedly refused FBI requests for that power.  I don't think that Homeland Security has it, either. But regulatory agencies with narrow remits often have it, so they can demand records relevant to whatever they regulate.  The Department of Transportation had it for use in safety investigations and such.  Typically they'd be asking for maintenance records.
</p><p>
When Homeland Security picked up the Transportation Safety Agency from the Department of Transportation, they got DoT's administrative subpoena authority in the transfer.  That's what Homeland Security was trying to use here.  That clearly went beyond Congressional intent.  And in any case, the subpoena hadn't been approved by one of the short list of people authorized to approve it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As I mentioned yesterday [ slashdot.org ] .
the subpoena probably was n't valid .
Once one of the recipients announced he would challenge it in court , the TSA probably withdrew it because they were going to look even dumber when a Federal judge threw it out .
There are some real questions about a law enforcement organization having administrative subpoena power .
In criminal investigations , subpoenas should come from a judge .
Congress has repeatedly refused FBI requests for that power .
I do n't think that Homeland Security has it , either .
But regulatory agencies with narrow remits often have it , so they can demand records relevant to whatever they regulate .
The Department of Transportation had it for use in safety investigations and such .
Typically they 'd be asking for maintenance records .
When Homeland Security picked up the Transportation Safety Agency from the Department of Transportation , they got DoT 's administrative subpoena authority in the transfer .
That 's what Homeland Security was trying to use here .
That clearly went beyond Congressional intent .
And in any case , the subpoena had n't been approved by one of the short list of people authorized to approve it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
As I mentioned yesterday [slashdot.org].
the subpoena probably wasn't valid.
Once one of the recipients announced he would challenge it in court, the TSA probably withdrew it because they were going to look even dumber when a Federal judge threw it out.
There are some real questions about a law enforcement organization having administrative subpoena power.
In criminal investigations, subpoenas should come from a judge.
Congress has repeatedly refused FBI requests for that power.
I don't think that Homeland Security has it, either.
But regulatory agencies with narrow remits often have it, so they can demand records relevant to whatever they regulate.
The Department of Transportation had it for use in safety investigations and such.
Typically they'd be asking for maintenance records.
When Homeland Security picked up the Transportation Safety Agency from the Department of Transportation, they got DoT's administrative subpoena authority in the transfer.
That's what Homeland Security was trying to use here.
That clearly went beyond Congressional intent.
And in any case, the subpoena hadn't been approved by one of the short list of people authorized to approve it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30615814</id>
	<title>Apology schmapology already</title>
	<author>Hognoxious</author>
	<datestamp>1262336760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Has there been an offer of compensation?  Has anyone been fired?</p><p>If not, then it's not an apology, it's just regret at being caught.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Has there been an offer of compensation ?
Has anyone been fired ? If not , then it 's not an apology , it 's just regret at being caught .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Has there been an offer of compensation?
Has anyone been fired?If not, then it's not an apology, it's just regret at being caught.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30617150</id>
	<title>Re:"Whoops, sorry"</title>
	<author>Montezumaa</author>
	<datestamp>1262349240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, I am rather tired of the U.S. government agencies using illegal tactics against U.S. citizens, then only admitting to using such tactics after enough people complain.  It is the government's responsibility to always follow the law in every situation.  When a person, or group of people violate the law or rules when attempting to apprehend a criminal, then they are no better than the criminals.</p><p>Of course, the two guys the TSA were "strong-arming" are not criminals.  They were providing the public with a great service and I hope to see more people do what these two gentlemen did in this instance.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , I am rather tired of the U.S. government agencies using illegal tactics against U.S. citizens , then only admitting to using such tactics after enough people complain .
It is the government 's responsibility to always follow the law in every situation .
When a person , or group of people violate the law or rules when attempting to apprehend a criminal , then they are no better than the criminals.Of course , the two guys the TSA were " strong-arming " are not criminals .
They were providing the public with a great service and I hope to see more people do what these two gentlemen did in this instance .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, I am rather tired of the U.S. government agencies using illegal tactics against U.S. citizens, then only admitting to using such tactics after enough people complain.
It is the government's responsibility to always follow the law in every situation.
When a person, or group of people violate the law or rules when attempting to apprehend a criminal, then they are no better than the criminals.Of course, the two guys the TSA were "strong-arming" are not criminals.
They were providing the public with a great service and I hope to see more people do what these two gentlemen did in this instance.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30616018</id>
	<title>Re:And of course...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262338680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Darn right.

No, I do not consent to any search.
Am I free to go?
Lawyer.
Those are pretty much the only things you should ever say.
For why you should never talk to the police ( a class from law school), go here:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc" title="youtube.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc</a> [youtube.com]

And support the <a href="http://aclu.org/" title="aclu.org" rel="nofollow">http://aclu.org/</a> [aclu.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Darn right .
No , I do not consent to any search .
Am I free to go ?
Lawyer . Those are pretty much the only things you should ever say .
For why you should never talk to the police ( a class from law school ) , go here : http : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = 6wXkI4t7nuc [ youtube.com ] And support the http : //aclu.org/ [ aclu.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Darn right.
No, I do not consent to any search.
Am I free to go?
Lawyer.
Those are pretty much the only things you should ever say.
For why you should never talk to the police ( a class from law school), go here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc [youtube.com]

And support the http://aclu.org/ [aclu.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30617926</id>
	<title>Re:21st Century Socia media buptkiss whoopin'</title>
	<author>ThatsNotPudding</author>
	<datestamp>1262354520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Welcome to the age of social media on the internet, where not only does stuff *not* stay secret for long, it spreads faster and farther than ever before,</p></div></blockquote><p>This is why the internet and all communications must be monitored.  Must think of the children and the terrorists.  And the children terrorists.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Welcome to the age of social media on the internet , where not only does stuff * not * stay secret for long , it spreads faster and farther than ever before,This is why the internet and all communications must be monitored .
Must think of the children and the terrorists .
And the children terrorists .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Welcome to the age of social media on the internet, where not only does stuff *not* stay secret for long, it spreads faster and farther than ever before,This is why the internet and all communications must be monitored.
Must think of the children and the terrorists.
And the children terrorists.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30621114</id>
	<title>Re:And of course...</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1262433300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How did you come up with the idea, that they are mutually exclusive?</p><p>By the way: You know that Bin Laden was a CIA agent, right? You know that the weapons they use, were paid for by the US military. (I know this from first-hand sources, since I have a photo of my father, with a US rocket launcher, trying to free his country from the Russian invasion. [Unfortunately, I have no contact with him anymore. Thanks for making the cold war hot in our country. {I don&rsquo;t blame the people, I blame a part of some governments. And all terrorists can fuck right off too. ^^}<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:/])</p><p>I abstain from asking we we just can&rsquo;t be friends and kick all our government&rsquo;s asses&rdquo;, because as George Carlin stated, those people usually get shot by an assassin. (Like Kennedy, Ghandi, etc. [By the way, a group that I don&rsquo;t deserve to be in.])<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How did you come up with the idea , that they are mutually exclusive ? By the way : You know that Bin Laden was a CIA agent , right ?
You know that the weapons they use , were paid for by the US military .
( I know this from first-hand sources , since I have a photo of my father , with a US rocket launcher , trying to free his country from the Russian invasion .
[ Unfortunately , I have no contact with him anymore .
Thanks for making the cold war hot in our country .
{ I don    t blame the people , I blame a part of some governments .
And all terrorists can fuck right off too .
^ ^ } : / ] ) I abstain from asking we we just can    t be friends and kick all our government    s asses    , because as George Carlin stated , those people usually get shot by an assassin .
( Like Kennedy , Ghandi , etc .
[ By the way , a group that I don    t deserve to be in .
] ) ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How did you come up with the idea, that they are mutually exclusive?By the way: You know that Bin Laden was a CIA agent, right?
You know that the weapons they use, were paid for by the US military.
(I know this from first-hand sources, since I have a photo of my father, with a US rocket launcher, trying to free his country from the Russian invasion.
[Unfortunately, I have no contact with him anymore.
Thanks for making the cold war hot in our country.
{I don’t blame the people, I blame a part of some governments.
And all terrorists can fuck right off too.
^^} :/])I abstain from asking we we just can’t be friends and kick all our government’s asses”, because as George Carlin stated, those people usually get shot by an assassin.
(Like Kennedy, Ghandi, etc.
[By the way, a group that I don’t deserve to be in.
]) ;)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30615934</id>
	<title>And of course...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262337960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Notice the guy who caved in to their threats ends up out a laptop.</p><p>The guy who didn't cave and refused to bend over still has his working computer hardware.</p><p>As always "never talk to the police" wins again. Even when you have done *nothing* wrong (and not just in the domain they are telling you they care about, across all domains) there are only two things you should say to the police:</p><p>1. No you may not search that/open that/have that/come inside.<br>2. I'm not saying anything without my lawyer present.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Notice the guy who caved in to their threats ends up out a laptop.The guy who did n't cave and refused to bend over still has his working computer hardware.As always " never talk to the police " wins again .
Even when you have done * nothing * wrong ( and not just in the domain they are telling you they care about , across all domains ) there are only two things you should say to the police : 1 .
No you may not search that/open that/have that/come inside.2 .
I 'm not saying anything without my lawyer present .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Notice the guy who caved in to their threats ends up out a laptop.The guy who didn't cave and refused to bend over still has his working computer hardware.As always "never talk to the police" wins again.
Even when you have done *nothing* wrong (and not just in the domain they are telling you they care about, across all domains) there are only two things you should say to the police:1.
No you may not search that/open that/have that/come inside.2.
I'm not saying anything without my lawyer present.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30615714</id>
	<title>LIke... DUH.</title>
	<author>orlanz</author>
	<datestamp>1262379120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Morons: 0<br>&gt; 1 Braincell Persons: +1</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Morons : 0 &gt; 1 Braincell Persons : + 1</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Morons: 0&gt; 1 Braincell Persons: +1</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30616014</id>
	<title>TSA agents need to get back to work</title>
	<author>colfer</author>
	<datestamp>1262338620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Instead of throwing people's laptops around, these guys need to get to work. There is plenty of work to go around, from airports to every other kind of transportation facility you can think of.</p><p>Federal agencies are full of people who want to carry and gun and work security, since it's easier to stomp around with a badge than to do the drudge work of investigation. Every agency wants to have a police force of its own.</p><p>TSA is a special case, since it actually is a sort of police force. So put these smart guy agents on the front line, at airport screening lines, where their elite abilities can be better appreciated. And shorten waiting times.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Instead of throwing people 's laptops around , these guys need to get to work .
There is plenty of work to go around , from airports to every other kind of transportation facility you can think of.Federal agencies are full of people who want to carry and gun and work security , since it 's easier to stomp around with a badge than to do the drudge work of investigation .
Every agency wants to have a police force of its own.TSA is a special case , since it actually is a sort of police force .
So put these smart guy agents on the front line , at airport screening lines , where their elite abilities can be better appreciated .
And shorten waiting times .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Instead of throwing people's laptops around, these guys need to get to work.
There is plenty of work to go around, from airports to every other kind of transportation facility you can think of.Federal agencies are full of people who want to carry and gun and work security, since it's easier to stomp around with a badge than to do the drudge work of investigation.
Every agency wants to have a police force of its own.TSA is a special case, since it actually is a sort of police force.
So put these smart guy agents on the front line, at airport screening lines, where their elite abilities can be better appreciated.
And shorten waiting times.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30616208</id>
	<title>Re:And of course...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262340660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>As always "never talk to the police" wins again. Even when you have done *nothing* wrong (and not just in the domain they are telling you they care about, across all domains) there are only two things you should say to the police:</p><p>1. No you may not search that/open that/have that/come inside.<br>2. I'm not saying anything without my lawyer present.</p></div><p>I see the wisdom in this, but there's a question I've always wanted to ask the experts who advocate this approach. What if you have a serious interest in the police completing their investigation as quickly and effectively as possible? For example, suppose your child has been abducted while in the custody of your ex-spouse. You are innocent and want the culprit found, but you also know that statistics and profiling will tell the police that you yourself are the most likely suspect. Do you spill all the information you have to the police, hoping that it hastens their investigation toward the malicious third party you know to be responsible? Or do you "lawyer up," slowing the investigation by inviting the police to focus their investigatory efforts on you? Not to mention how it will look if the police haven't identified you as a suspect yet, and you're insisting on a lawyer of your own volition: do you <em>know</em> you have something to hide; do you <em>want</em> the investigation to go slower?</p><p>And it doesn't help to say that this situation demands that you altruistically put yourself in danger of legal trouble. You getting arrested and tried is even worse for the victim than it is for you: the police aren't looking at all now, since they already think they've got the guy! So do you "lawyer up" to try to prevent <em>that</em> possibility, and if so, when does the risk outweigh the amount it will slow down the investigation?</p><p>I believe strongly in civil rights against police investigation, but I also recognize that the police are generally, you know, the good guys who go after the bad guys, and you often will want them to do that job. Not talking to the police without a lawyer is good advice in general, and almost certainly the best idea if you're already a major suspect, but I think it's too facile to say that you should never do it under any circumstances.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>As always " never talk to the police " wins again .
Even when you have done * nothing * wrong ( and not just in the domain they are telling you they care about , across all domains ) there are only two things you should say to the police : 1 .
No you may not search that/open that/have that/come inside.2 .
I 'm not saying anything without my lawyer present.I see the wisdom in this , but there 's a question I 've always wanted to ask the experts who advocate this approach .
What if you have a serious interest in the police completing their investigation as quickly and effectively as possible ?
For example , suppose your child has been abducted while in the custody of your ex-spouse .
You are innocent and want the culprit found , but you also know that statistics and profiling will tell the police that you yourself are the most likely suspect .
Do you spill all the information you have to the police , hoping that it hastens their investigation toward the malicious third party you know to be responsible ?
Or do you " lawyer up , " slowing the investigation by inviting the police to focus their investigatory efforts on you ?
Not to mention how it will look if the police have n't identified you as a suspect yet , and you 're insisting on a lawyer of your own volition : do you know you have something to hide ; do you want the investigation to go slower ? And it does n't help to say that this situation demands that you altruistically put yourself in danger of legal trouble .
You getting arrested and tried is even worse for the victim than it is for you : the police are n't looking at all now , since they already think they 've got the guy !
So do you " lawyer up " to try to prevent that possibility , and if so , when does the risk outweigh the amount it will slow down the investigation ? I believe strongly in civil rights against police investigation , but I also recognize that the police are generally , you know , the good guys who go after the bad guys , and you often will want them to do that job .
Not talking to the police without a lawyer is good advice in general , and almost certainly the best idea if you 're already a major suspect , but I think it 's too facile to say that you should never do it under any circumstances .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As always "never talk to the police" wins again.
Even when you have done *nothing* wrong (and not just in the domain they are telling you they care about, across all domains) there are only two things you should say to the police:1.
No you may not search that/open that/have that/come inside.2.
I'm not saying anything without my lawyer present.I see the wisdom in this, but there's a question I've always wanted to ask the experts who advocate this approach.
What if you have a serious interest in the police completing their investigation as quickly and effectively as possible?
For example, suppose your child has been abducted while in the custody of your ex-spouse.
You are innocent and want the culprit found, but you also know that statistics and profiling will tell the police that you yourself are the most likely suspect.
Do you spill all the information you have to the police, hoping that it hastens their investigation toward the malicious third party you know to be responsible?
Or do you "lawyer up," slowing the investigation by inviting the police to focus their investigatory efforts on you?
Not to mention how it will look if the police haven't identified you as a suspect yet, and you're insisting on a lawyer of your own volition: do you know you have something to hide; do you want the investigation to go slower?And it doesn't help to say that this situation demands that you altruistically put yourself in danger of legal trouble.
You getting arrested and tried is even worse for the victim than it is for you: the police aren't looking at all now, since they already think they've got the guy!
So do you "lawyer up" to try to prevent that possibility, and if so, when does the risk outweigh the amount it will slow down the investigation?I believe strongly in civil rights against police investigation, but I also recognize that the police are generally, you know, the good guys who go after the bad guys, and you often will want them to do that job.
Not talking to the police without a lawyer is good advice in general, and almost certainly the best idea if you're already a major suspect, but I think it's too facile to say that you should never do it under any circumstances.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30616354</id>
	<title>Re:"Whoops, sorry" - this is AFTER..</title>
	<author>michaelhood</author>
	<datestamp>1262342460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>"We didn't realize our dick move would receive so much public attention."</p></div><p>This is AFTER they took the guy's laptop, imaged it and returned it to him with a corrupted disk, reportedly.. of course they don't need the subpoenas anymore.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" We did n't realize our dick move would receive so much public attention .
" This is AFTER they took the guy 's laptop , imaged it and returned it to him with a corrupted disk , reportedly.. of course they do n't need the subpoenas anymore .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"We didn't realize our dick move would receive so much public attention.
"This is AFTER they took the guy's laptop, imaged it and returned it to him with a corrupted disk, reportedly.. of course they don't need the subpoenas anymore.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30634086</id>
	<title>Re:"Whoops, sorry"</title>
	<author>Stormy Dragon</author>
	<datestamp>1262512260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Who'd have thought two professional writers would have a way of attracting public attention to things by writing about them!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Who 'd have thought two professional writers would have a way of attracting public attention to things by writing about them !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who'd have thought two professional writers would have a way of attracting public attention to things by writing about them!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30616380</id>
	<title>Re:Type of laptop in picture</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262342640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>then they should be fired for being idiots since<br>1 removing the hard drive is documented online<br>2 only a true idiot would try to get a FORENSICS QUALITY image from a system without some sort of write blocking inplace<br>3 a binary dump of the drive does not care about the disc format</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>then they should be fired for being idiots since1 removing the hard drive is documented online2 only a true idiot would try to get a FORENSICS QUALITY image from a system without some sort of write blocking inplace3 a binary dump of the drive does not care about the disc format</tokentext>
<sentencetext>then they should be fired for being idiots since1 removing the hard drive is documented online2 only a true idiot would try to get a FORENSICS QUALITY image from a system without some sort of write blocking inplace3 a binary dump of the drive does not care about the disc format</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30618100</id>
	<title>Returned?</title>
	<author>AHuxley</author>
	<datestamp>1262355480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>The hardware is back but whats loaded onto it?<br>
Its an old trick to search something and give it back with a logger or spyware.<br>
Then raid again/sneak and peek, or have an upload of the log at a later date.<br>
ebay the hardware asap or take to a security expert and then ebay.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The hardware is back but whats loaded onto it ?
Its an old trick to search something and give it back with a logger or spyware .
Then raid again/sneak and peek , or have an upload of the log at a later date .
ebay the hardware asap or take to a security expert and then ebay .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The hardware is back but whats loaded onto it?
Its an old trick to search something and give it back with a logger or spyware.
Then raid again/sneak and peek, or have an upload of the log at a later date.
ebay the hardware asap or take to a security expert and then ebay.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30615906</id>
	<title>21st Century Socia media buptkiss whoopin'</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262337780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>yeah, buddy.</p><p>Welcome to the age of social media on the internet, where not only does stuff *not* stay secret for long, it spreads faster and farther than ever before, and to people who otherwise wouldn't give a fit because a friend or family member they care about *does*.</p><p>This is the magic of still living in a (semi) free society.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>yeah , buddy.Welcome to the age of social media on the internet , where not only does stuff * not * stay secret for long , it spreads faster and farther than ever before , and to people who otherwise would n't give a fit because a friend or family member they care about * does * .This is the magic of still living in a ( semi ) free society .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>yeah, buddy.Welcome to the age of social media on the internet, where not only does stuff *not* stay secret for long, it spreads faster and farther than ever before, and to people who otherwise wouldn't give a fit because a friend or family member they care about *does*.This is the magic of still living in a (semi) free society.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30617010</id>
	<title>Re:And of course...</title>
	<author>AK Marc</author>
	<datestamp>1262348100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>As for the laptop... I know when they search a car or house, they have to put things back as they are.</i> <br> <br>They do?  There are numerous stories of people's cars that were searched and left trashed (inoperable).  Is that a violation of how they are supposed to work, or the way they do it?</htmltext>
<tokenext>As for the laptop... I know when they search a car or house , they have to put things back as they are .
They do ?
There are numerous stories of people 's cars that were searched and left trashed ( inoperable ) .
Is that a violation of how they are supposed to work , or the way they do it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As for the laptop... I know when they search a car or house, they have to put things back as they are.
They do?
There are numerous stories of people's cars that were searched and left trashed (inoperable).
Is that a violation of how they are supposed to work, or the way they do it?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30616002</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30627584</id>
	<title>Dickhead moves by US security fascist Weanies`</title>
	<author>thesquire</author>
	<datestamp>1262436660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Stupid totalitarian Nazi-like Pigs against bloggers re underpants bomber.

How's that for a short and sweet comment?

Unfortunately, I can't just let it go with that.  Please forgive me.

I had booked a flight with Westjet to Palm Springs just after the Detroit fiasco.  When I called Westjet some dingbat female weenie responded to my mild criticism of the ludicrous anti-passenger measures adopted by airlines by saying,  It's for your benefit.  Don't be such an ingrate.  [I paraphrase].  What crap!  The father of the bomber alerted US and other security weenies about his crazy son.  The stupid bastards ignored it.  No communication between various police/security/spy agencies resulted in his entering the US without scrutiny.  After the many screw-ups by the "authorities", now they take it out on us innocent passengers.  What a bunch of idiots.  Its no wonder I hate to fly airlines.  If it wasn't for my wife who keeps her head up her ass on such issues, I'd have driven.  Never again.  The airlines are also too stupid to notice the long-smoldering irritation of potential passengers with the nonsensical and totally ineffective security measures which only work against innocent and honest citizens.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Stupid totalitarian Nazi-like Pigs against bloggers re underpants bomber .
How 's that for a short and sweet comment ?
Unfortunately , I ca n't just let it go with that .
Please forgive me .
I had booked a flight with Westjet to Palm Springs just after the Detroit fiasco .
When I called Westjet some dingbat female weenie responded to my mild criticism of the ludicrous anti-passenger measures adopted by airlines by saying , It 's for your benefit .
Do n't be such an ingrate .
[ I paraphrase ] .
What crap !
The father of the bomber alerted US and other security weenies about his crazy son .
The stupid bastards ignored it .
No communication between various police/security/spy agencies resulted in his entering the US without scrutiny .
After the many screw-ups by the " authorities " , now they take it out on us innocent passengers .
What a bunch of idiots .
Its no wonder I hate to fly airlines .
If it was n't for my wife who keeps her head up her ass on such issues , I 'd have driven .
Never again .
The airlines are also too stupid to notice the long-smoldering irritation of potential passengers with the nonsensical and totally ineffective security measures which only work against innocent and honest citizens .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Stupid totalitarian Nazi-like Pigs against bloggers re underpants bomber.
How's that for a short and sweet comment?
Unfortunately, I can't just let it go with that.
Please forgive me.
I had booked a flight with Westjet to Palm Springs just after the Detroit fiasco.
When I called Westjet some dingbat female weenie responded to my mild criticism of the ludicrous anti-passenger measures adopted by airlines by saying,  It's for your benefit.
Don't be such an ingrate.
[I paraphrase].
What crap!
The father of the bomber alerted US and other security weenies about his crazy son.
The stupid bastards ignored it.
No communication between various police/security/spy agencies resulted in his entering the US without scrutiny.
After the many screw-ups by the "authorities", now they take it out on us innocent passengers.
What a bunch of idiots.
Its no wonder I hate to fly airlines.
If it wasn't for my wife who keeps her head up her ass on such issues, I'd have driven.
Never again.
The airlines are also too stupid to notice the long-smoldering irritation of potential passengers with the nonsensical and totally ineffective security measures which only work against innocent and honest citizens.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30615768</id>
	<title>His returned laptop now glows red in audio jack?!?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262336460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Drennan also promised to make sure the administration resolved issues that Frischling has been having with his laptop ever since the agents seized it to image the hard drive.

</p><p>Frischling says the laptop was returned to him with "tons and tons of bad sectors" and a corrupt operating system. The audio on his computer has also stopped working, and a red light glows from the audio jack.</p></div>
</blockquote><p>Damn, I bet his machine is full of spying devices, including one where the audio card used to be.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Drennan also promised to make sure the administration resolved issues that Frischling has been having with his laptop ever since the agents seized it to image the hard drive .
Frischling says the laptop was returned to him with " tons and tons of bad sectors " and a corrupt operating system .
The audio on his computer has also stopped working , and a red light glows from the audio jack .
Damn , I bet his machine is full of spying devices , including one where the audio card used to be .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Drennan also promised to make sure the administration resolved issues that Frischling has been having with his laptop ever since the agents seized it to image the hard drive.
Frischling says the laptop was returned to him with "tons and tons of bad sectors" and a corrupt operating system.
The audio on his computer has also stopped working, and a red light glows from the audio jack.
Damn, I bet his machine is full of spying devices, including one where the audio card used to be.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30616022</id>
	<title>Obligatory</title>
	<author>FutureDomain</author>
	<datestamp>1262338680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>In Soviet Russia, the TSA withdraws YOU!</htmltext>
<tokenext>In Soviet Russia , the TSA withdraws YOU !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In Soviet Russia, the TSA withdraws YOU!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30618352</id>
	<title>Re:"Whoops, sorry"</title>
	<author>RobertM1968</author>
	<datestamp>1262356800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>"We didn't realize our dick move would receive so much public attention."</p></div><p>I am not quite sure that was their motivation. Possibly paranoia, possibly reality, I suspect the laptop was modified just a wee bit...

</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Frischling says the laptop was returned to him with &ldquo;tons and tons of bad sectors&rdquo; and a corrupt operating system. <b>The audio on his computer has also stopped working, and a red light glows from the audio jack.</b></p> </div><p>I am not exactly sure what audio jack on what laptop has a red light in it that glows... weird...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" We did n't realize our dick move would receive so much public attention .
" I am not quite sure that was their motivation .
Possibly paranoia , possibly reality , I suspect the laptop was modified just a wee bit.. . Frischling says the laptop was returned to him with    tons and tons of bad sectors    and a corrupt operating system .
The audio on his computer has also stopped working , and a red light glows from the audio jack .
I am not exactly sure what audio jack on what laptop has a red light in it that glows... weird.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"We didn't realize our dick move would receive so much public attention.
"I am not quite sure that was their motivation.
Possibly paranoia, possibly reality, I suspect the laptop was modified just a wee bit...

Frischling says the laptop was returned to him with “tons and tons of bad sectors” and a corrupt operating system.
The audio on his computer has also stopped working, and a red light glows from the audio jack.
I am not exactly sure what audio jack on what laptop has a red light in it that glows... weird...
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30623364</id>
	<title>Re:And of course...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262454780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>At $250/h it's a lot more expensive to buy lawyers than replace a laptop.  Not that I don't appreciate the sentiment: the cops overstep their boundaries all too much, and a cowed populace lets them do it.  But saying "guy lawyered up and got to keep his possessions" is a lot like saying "guy spent 4x the value of his commodity hardware retaining it."</p><p>It'd be more reasonable to cheer him on because he actually stood up for his rights, not because he got to keep his equipment.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>At $ 250/h it 's a lot more expensive to buy lawyers than replace a laptop .
Not that I do n't appreciate the sentiment : the cops overstep their boundaries all too much , and a cowed populace lets them do it .
But saying " guy lawyered up and got to keep his possessions " is a lot like saying " guy spent 4x the value of his commodity hardware retaining it .
" It 'd be more reasonable to cheer him on because he actually stood up for his rights , not because he got to keep his equipment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At $250/h it's a lot more expensive to buy lawyers than replace a laptop.
Not that I don't appreciate the sentiment: the cops overstep their boundaries all too much, and a cowed populace lets them do it.
But saying "guy lawyered up and got to keep his possessions" is a lot like saying "guy spent 4x the value of his commodity hardware retaining it.
"It'd be more reasonable to cheer him on because he actually stood up for his rights, not because he got to keep his equipment.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30616694</id>
	<title>Apologized?</title>
	<author>nurb432</author>
	<datestamp>1262345340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, that's nice of them, but it should have never happened in the first place.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , that 's nice of them , but it should have never happened in the first place .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, that's nice of them, but it should have never happened in the first place.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30616738</id>
	<title>Re:And of course...</title>
	<author>ErikZ</author>
	<datestamp>1262345940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A huh. So the TSA is the real terrorists. And the guys who blow up planes are the fake ones?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A huh .
So the TSA is the real terrorists .
And the guys who blow up planes are the fake ones ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A huh.
So the TSA is the real terrorists.
And the guys who blow up planes are the fake ones?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30619810</id>
	<title>Re:21st Century Socia media buptkiss whoopin'</title>
	<author>davester666</author>
	<datestamp>1262371200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We're sorry we did this in a way that got national publicity.  Next time, we'll do it in a way that is less likely to do so, such as sending these enemy combatants [as the information they disseminated was clearly only to aid terrorists] to Iraq/Afghanistan/etc and apply some information retrieval techniques on them.</p><p>Their family may notice they've gone, but they won't know where they've gone to...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We 're sorry we did this in a way that got national publicity .
Next time , we 'll do it in a way that is less likely to do so , such as sending these enemy combatants [ as the information they disseminated was clearly only to aid terrorists ] to Iraq/Afghanistan/etc and apply some information retrieval techniques on them.Their family may notice they 've gone , but they wo n't know where they 've gone to.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We're sorry we did this in a way that got national publicity.
Next time, we'll do it in a way that is less likely to do so, such as sending these enemy combatants [as the information they disseminated was clearly only to aid terrorists] to Iraq/Afghanistan/etc and apply some information retrieval techniques on them.Their family may notice they've gone, but they won't know where they've gone to...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30615906</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30616068</id>
	<title>diversion</title>
	<author>bugi</author>
	<datestamp>1262339160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Did they get the information they were looking for?</p><p>Does "giving up" keep them from answering for their behavior in front of a judge?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Did they get the information they were looking for ? Does " giving up " keep them from answering for their behavior in front of a judge ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Did they get the information they were looking for?Does "giving up" keep them from answering for their behavior in front of a judge?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30616116</id>
	<title>Re:"Whoops, sorry"</title>
	<author>sunilhari</author>
	<datestamp>1262339580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Cue (entirely appropriate) lawsuit in 3...2...1...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Cue ( entirely appropriate ) lawsuit in 3...2...1.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cue (entirely appropriate) lawsuit in 3...2...1...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30615664</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30616626</id>
	<title>Re:And of course...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262344920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Not to mention how it will look if the police haven't identified you as a suspect yet, and you're insisting on a lawyer of your own volition: do you <em>know</em> you have something to hide; do you <em>want</em> the investigation to go slower?</p></div><p>This is a no-concern. Honestly, look bad in whose eyes? Unless they have evidence, they can't keep you arrested. In court, they can't use "he wanted a lawyer" as evidence. So what if they don't like you?</p><p>If you want the case to progress fast, ask for a lawyer (this really shouldn't slow things down much, they will have someone ready for this kind of things), briefly explain him the situation ("I really have nothing to hide but am a bit paranoid about talking to police. I don't want them to ask some trick question that they can twist around...") and then tell the police everything you know and that would help them in solving the case (relevant information only). For anything that you don't want to answer or that you don't believe to be relevant, don't answer "just to seem better in their eyes".</p><p>That all in theory. I personally live in Finland and consider police to be friends. I believe they will do their best to solve the case and I don't believe that they will try to twist my words in wierd ways just to get me convcted for something irrelevant to the case. I would most likely talk to them without a lawyer present if everything progresses well. If I would get an impression that they are agressive and hostile towards me, then I would ask for a lawyer.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not to mention how it will look if the police have n't identified you as a suspect yet , and you 're insisting on a lawyer of your own volition : do you know you have something to hide ; do you want the investigation to go slower ? This is a no-concern .
Honestly , look bad in whose eyes ?
Unless they have evidence , they ca n't keep you arrested .
In court , they ca n't use " he wanted a lawyer " as evidence .
So what if they do n't like you ? If you want the case to progress fast , ask for a lawyer ( this really should n't slow things down much , they will have someone ready for this kind of things ) , briefly explain him the situation ( " I really have nothing to hide but am a bit paranoid about talking to police .
I do n't want them to ask some trick question that they can twist around... " ) and then tell the police everything you know and that would help them in solving the case ( relevant information only ) .
For anything that you do n't want to answer or that you do n't believe to be relevant , do n't answer " just to seem better in their eyes " .That all in theory .
I personally live in Finland and consider police to be friends .
I believe they will do their best to solve the case and I do n't believe that they will try to twist my words in wierd ways just to get me convcted for something irrelevant to the case .
I would most likely talk to them without a lawyer present if everything progresses well .
If I would get an impression that they are agressive and hostile towards me , then I would ask for a lawyer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not to mention how it will look if the police haven't identified you as a suspect yet, and you're insisting on a lawyer of your own volition: do you know you have something to hide; do you want the investigation to go slower?This is a no-concern.
Honestly, look bad in whose eyes?
Unless they have evidence, they can't keep you arrested.
In court, they can't use "he wanted a lawyer" as evidence.
So what if they don't like you?If you want the case to progress fast, ask for a lawyer (this really shouldn't slow things down much, they will have someone ready for this kind of things), briefly explain him the situation ("I really have nothing to hide but am a bit paranoid about talking to police.
I don't want them to ask some trick question that they can twist around...") and then tell the police everything you know and that would help them in solving the case (relevant information only).
For anything that you don't want to answer or that you don't believe to be relevant, don't answer "just to seem better in their eyes".That all in theory.
I personally live in Finland and consider police to be friends.
I believe they will do their best to solve the case and I don't believe that they will try to twist my words in wierd ways just to get me convcted for something irrelevant to the case.
I would most likely talk to them without a lawyer present if everything progresses well.
If I would get an impression that they are agressive and hostile towards me, then I would ask for a lawyer.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30616208</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30615742</id>
	<title>The apology's nice and all . . .</title>
	<author>alecto</author>
	<datestamp>1262379420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>. . . but someone should have to fall on his or her sword over this. If those field agents acted on their own, it would be they; if not, then whoever they worked for that authorized the tactics should be holding a sign saying "WILL WAND YOUR CROTCH FOR FOOD."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>.
. .
but someone should have to fall on his or her sword over this .
If those field agents acted on their own , it would be they ; if not , then whoever they worked for that authorized the tactics should be holding a sign saying " WILL WAND YOUR CROTCH FOR FOOD .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>.
. .
but someone should have to fall on his or her sword over this.
If those field agents acted on their own, it would be they; if not, then whoever they worked for that authorized the tactics should be holding a sign saying "WILL WAND YOUR CROTCH FOR FOOD.
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30616374</id>
	<title>Re:And of course...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262342640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Even when you have done *nothing* wrong (and not just in the domain they are telling you they care about, across all domains) there are only two things you should say to the police:</p><p>1. No you may not search that/open that/have that/come inside.<br>2. I'm not saying anything without my lawyer present.</p></div><p>Actualy, stick with:<br>1.  I do not consent.<br>2.  Am I free to go?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Even when you have done * nothing * wrong ( and not just in the domain they are telling you they care about , across all domains ) there are only two things you should say to the police : 1 .
No you may not search that/open that/have that/come inside.2 .
I 'm not saying anything without my lawyer present.Actualy , stick with : 1 .
I do not consent.2 .
Am I free to go ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even when you have done *nothing* wrong (and not just in the domain they are telling you they care about, across all domains) there are only two things you should say to the police:1.
No you may not search that/open that/have that/come inside.2.
I'm not saying anything without my lawyer present.Actualy, stick with:1.
I do not consent.2.
Am I free to go?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30615934</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30615732</id>
	<title>Won't next time, or only if victim makes noise?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262379360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Will they also refrain from doing this kind of thing next time, or do so only if the victim doesn't keep quiet?

</p><p>In any case, this blogger's refusal to keep quiet is inspiring.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Will they also refrain from doing this kind of thing next time , or do so only if the victim does n't keep quiet ?
In any case , this blogger 's refusal to keep quiet is inspiring .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Will they also refrain from doing this kind of thing next time, or do so only if the victim doesn't keep quiet?
In any case, this blogger's refusal to keep quiet is inspiring.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30616900</id>
	<title>Re:And of course...</title>
	<author>SvnLyrBrto</author>
	<datestamp>1262347260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If the cops have showed up at your doorstep and you didn't call them; they've already decided you're guilty and are there to try to pin something on you; even if it's not your hypothetical kidnapping.  And the legal system is simply too complicated now for a layman to safely navigate.  So yes... a lawyer is an imperative.  (And yeah, as you say, in your scenario you're already and automatically a suspect.)</p><p>Even if you have information you do want the cops to have, it's safest and smartest to insist on being provided a lawyer and having him vet and sanitize it for you before releasing it.  It doesn't make you any more or less guilty.. you're already guilty in the cops' eyes.  It doesn't make them hate or like you any more... to them, you're either cop or you're not.</p><p>And once you go over their heads to the realm of lawyers and judges, it still doesn't make you look any more or less guilty.  It's never a bad mark and always a good idea and in your best interest to seek legal council when dealing with the legal system.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If the cops have showed up at your doorstep and you did n't call them ; they 've already decided you 're guilty and are there to try to pin something on you ; even if it 's not your hypothetical kidnapping .
And the legal system is simply too complicated now for a layman to safely navigate .
So yes... a lawyer is an imperative .
( And yeah , as you say , in your scenario you 're already and automatically a suspect .
) Even if you have information you do want the cops to have , it 's safest and smartest to insist on being provided a lawyer and having him vet and sanitize it for you before releasing it .
It does n't make you any more or less guilty.. you 're already guilty in the cops ' eyes .
It does n't make them hate or like you any more... to them , you 're either cop or you 're not.And once you go over their heads to the realm of lawyers and judges , it still does n't make you look any more or less guilty .
It 's never a bad mark and always a good idea and in your best interest to seek legal council when dealing with the legal system .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the cops have showed up at your doorstep and you didn't call them; they've already decided you're guilty and are there to try to pin something on you; even if it's not your hypothetical kidnapping.
And the legal system is simply too complicated now for a layman to safely navigate.
So yes... a lawyer is an imperative.
(And yeah, as you say, in your scenario you're already and automatically a suspect.
)Even if you have information you do want the cops to have, it's safest and smartest to insist on being provided a lawyer and having him vet and sanitize it for you before releasing it.
It doesn't make you any more or less guilty.. you're already guilty in the cops' eyes.
It doesn't make them hate or like you any more... to them, you're either cop or you're not.And once you go over their heads to the realm of lawyers and judges, it still doesn't make you look any more or less guilty.
It's never a bad mark and always a good idea and in your best interest to seek legal council when dealing with the legal system.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30616208</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30615878</id>
	<title>Re:His returned laptop now glows red in audio jack</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262337480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As much as the conspiracy theorist in me would like to believe they added spying devices to the computer, chances are they just screwed up the hard drive in shipping.  Of course either way it's unacceptable and they owe him the value of his time, fixing the thing, and lost data.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As much as the conspiracy theorist in me would like to believe they added spying devices to the computer , chances are they just screwed up the hard drive in shipping .
Of course either way it 's unacceptable and they owe him the value of his time , fixing the thing , and lost data .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As much as the conspiracy theorist in me would like to believe they added spying devices to the computer, chances are they just screwed up the hard drive in shipping.
Of course either way it's unacceptable and they owe him the value of his time, fixing the thing, and lost data.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30615768</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30615854</id>
	<title>The only question</title>
	<author>BlueBoxSW.com</author>
	<datestamp>1262337240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>in my mind is: Did they stop legal action against him because they FOUND the source of the leak?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>in my mind is : Did they stop legal action against him because they FOUND the source of the leak ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>in my mind is: Did they stop legal action against him because they FOUND the source of the leak?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30616644</id>
	<title>Re:"Whoops, sorry"</title>
	<author>Mr. Freeman</author>
	<datestamp>1262345040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>"Next time we'll remember to get a gag order too"</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Next time we 'll remember to get a gag order too "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Next time we'll remember to get a gag order too"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30615946</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30616480</id>
	<title>Re:"Whoops, sorry"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262343480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>"The price for freedom is eternal vigilance" - Thomas Jefferson</htmltext>
<tokenext>" The price for freedom is eternal vigilance " - Thomas Jefferson</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"The price for freedom is eternal vigilance" - Thomas Jefferson</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30615946</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30615870</id>
	<title>Type of laptop in picture</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262337360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It looks like a black MacBook (look at the power supply on top of it).</p><p>"The agents then tried to image his hard drive, but were unable to do so."</p><p>Hehehe.  Maybe they didn't know how to image it because it wasn't Windows?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It looks like a black MacBook ( look at the power supply on top of it ) .
" The agents then tried to image his hard drive , but were unable to do so. " Hehehe .
Maybe they did n't know how to image it because it was n't Windows ?
: - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It looks like a black MacBook (look at the power supply on top of it).
"The agents then tried to image his hard drive, but were unable to do so."Hehehe.
Maybe they didn't know how to image it because it wasn't Windows?
:-)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30615728</id>
	<title>And the lesson is</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262379300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Cooperate - and get two hours of grilling and a borked laptop. And the half-assed apology.<br>Tell the feds to go get a clue about procedure and return with a warrant - get the half-assed apology and keep your electronics in working order.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Cooperate - and get two hours of grilling and a borked laptop .
And the half-assed apology.Tell the feds to go get a clue about procedure and return with a warrant - get the half-assed apology and keep your electronics in working order .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cooperate - and get two hours of grilling and a borked laptop.
And the half-assed apology.Tell the feds to go get a clue about procedure and return with a warrant - get the half-assed apology and keep your electronics in working order.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30616114</id>
	<title>Re:And of course...</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1262339580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That&rsquo;s because, as I always say: It&rsquo;s not about what you have to hide. It&rsquo;s about what they want to find.</p><p>Cardinal Richelieu also had a nice saying about seven lines of the honest man being enough, to find something, to let him hang.</p><p>The &ldquo;funniest&rdquo; thing is, that the exact description of what the TSA does to people, is &ldquo;terror&rdquo;. They&rsquo;re the real terrorists. But as all terrorists, they have more powerful backroom figures who control the big picture. The &ldquo;terrorists&rdquo; are just straw-men.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That    s because , as I always say : It    s not about what you have to hide .
It    s about what they want to find.Cardinal Richelieu also had a nice saying about seven lines of the honest man being enough , to find something , to let him hang.The    funniest    thing is , that the exact description of what the TSA does to people , is    terror    .
They    re the real terrorists .
But as all terrorists , they have more powerful backroom figures who control the big picture .
The    terrorists    are just straw-men .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That’s because, as I always say: It’s not about what you have to hide.
It’s about what they want to find.Cardinal Richelieu also had a nice saying about seven lines of the honest man being enough, to find something, to let him hang.The “funniest” thing is, that the exact description of what the TSA does to people, is “terror”.
They’re the real terrorists.
But as all terrorists, they have more powerful backroom figures who control the big picture.
The “terrorists” are just straw-men.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30615934</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30616560</id>
	<title>Re:And of course...</title>
	<author>noidentity</author>
	<datestamp>1262344320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>3. Watch <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8z7NC5sgik" title="youtube.com">James Duane's presentation</a> [youtube.com] yearly, and share it with anyone you care about.</htmltext>
<tokenext>3 .
Watch James Duane 's presentation [ youtube.com ] yearly , and share it with anyone you care about .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>3.
Watch James Duane's presentation [youtube.com] yearly, and share it with anyone you care about.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30615934</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30617802</id>
	<title>Re:And of course...</title>
	<author>Achromatic1978</author>
	<datestamp>1262353800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>This is a no-concern. Honestly, look bad in whose eyes? Unless they have evidence, they can't keep you arrested. In court, they can't use "he wanted a lawyer" as evidence. So what if they don't like you?</p></div></blockquote><p>
To paraphrase Chris Rock, "Why didn't Kobe use Johnnie Cochran?" "Well, if you use Johnnie Cochran, you like guilty!" "Sure you do, but you're at home. If I gotta choose between looking innocent in jail, and looking guilty at the mall, I know which way I'm going."</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is a no-concern .
Honestly , look bad in whose eyes ?
Unless they have evidence , they ca n't keep you arrested .
In court , they ca n't use " he wanted a lawyer " as evidence .
So what if they do n't like you ?
To paraphrase Chris Rock , " Why did n't Kobe use Johnnie Cochran ?
" " Well , if you use Johnnie Cochran , you like guilty !
" " Sure you do , but you 're at home .
If I got ta choose between looking innocent in jail , and looking guilty at the mall , I know which way I 'm going .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is a no-concern.
Honestly, look bad in whose eyes?
Unless they have evidence, they can't keep you arrested.
In court, they can't use "he wanted a lawyer" as evidence.
So what if they don't like you?
To paraphrase Chris Rock, "Why didn't Kobe use Johnnie Cochran?
" "Well, if you use Johnnie Cochran, you like guilty!
" "Sure you do, but you're at home.
If I gotta choose between looking innocent in jail, and looking guilty at the mall, I know which way I'm going.
"
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30615704</id>
	<title>Look over here!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262379000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Look here at my left hand, which is withdrawing the subpoenas everyone is upset about.</p><p>Over here, is my right hand, doing nothing at all (except issuing new ones to other bloggers).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Look here at my left hand , which is withdrawing the subpoenas everyone is upset about.Over here , is my right hand , doing nothing at all ( except issuing new ones to other bloggers ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Look here at my left hand, which is withdrawing the subpoenas everyone is upset about.Over here, is my right hand, doing nothing at all (except issuing new ones to other bloggers).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30615974</id>
	<title>Re:His returned laptop now glows red in audio jack</title>
	<author>calmofthestorm</author>
	<datestamp>1262338380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's the funniest part of the whole FA. Like something out of the simpsons for crying out loud.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's the funniest part of the whole FA .
Like something out of the simpsons for crying out loud .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's the funniest part of the whole FA.
Like something out of the simpsons for crying out loud.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30623356</id>
	<title>Re:"Whoops, sorry"</title>
	<author>geminidomino</author>
	<datestamp>1262454720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>One of these days government agencies will realize that they can't pull shit like they did back in the 50's era of commie hunting.</p> </div><p>I'm pretty sure that a precondition for them to realize that they can't pull shit like they did in the 50s is that they actually can't pulls hit like they did in the 50s.  Other than a few minor noisy issues like this one, on the whole, they're doing just fine with Tail-Gunner Joe's playbook.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>One of these days government agencies will realize that they ca n't pull shit like they did back in the 50 's era of commie hunting .
I 'm pretty sure that a precondition for them to realize that they ca n't pull shit like they did in the 50s is that they actually ca n't pulls hit like they did in the 50s .
Other than a few minor noisy issues like this one , on the whole , they 're doing just fine with Tail-Gunner Joe 's playbook .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One of these days government agencies will realize that they can't pull shit like they did back in the 50's era of commie hunting.
I'm pretty sure that a precondition for them to realize that they can't pull shit like they did in the 50s is that they actually can't pulls hit like they did in the 50s.
Other than a few minor noisy issues like this one, on the whole, they're doing just fine with Tail-Gunner Joe's playbook.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30619160</id>
	<title>Re:"Whoops, sorry"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262363520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>"We didn't realize our dick move would receive so much public attention."</p></div></blockquote><p>
Either that, or it's "We're grateful our dick move got the message across.  Why press our luck in court, where we might actually lose, when we've already created the chilling effect we set out to create?"</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" We did n't realize our dick move would receive so much public attention .
" Either that , or it 's " We 're grateful our dick move got the message across .
Why press our luck in court , where we might actually lose , when we 've already created the chilling effect we set out to create ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"We didn't realize our dick move would receive so much public attention.
"
Either that, or it's "We're grateful our dick move got the message across.
Why press our luck in court, where we might actually lose, when we've already created the chilling effect we set out to create?
"
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_01_01_1938210.30616436</id>
	<title>Re: TSA Withdraws Subpoenas Against Bloggers</title>
	<author>REALMAN</author>
	<datestamp>1262343000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The blurb you make insinuates that they "caved in" when in fact one of the bloggers gave up their laptop so in all likelihood they got the info they wanted off that laptop and that's why they dropped the subpoena.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The blurb you make insinuates that they " caved in " when in fact one of the bloggers gave up their laptop so in all likelihood they got the info they wanted off that laptop and that 's why they dropped the subpoena .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The blurb you make insinuates that they "caved in" when in fact one of the bloggers gave up their laptop so in all likelihood they got the info they wanted off that laptop and that's why they dropped the subpoena.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Terrorist "DHS" cripples US ... again.</title>
	<author>David Gerard</author>
	<datestamp>1262350920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <b>LITTLE BROTHER, Detroit,</b> Sunday -- The American-based terrorist group "Department of Homeland Security" (the Arabic term for "Department of Homeland Security") has successfully <a href="http://newstechnica.com/2009/12/29/terrorist-group-department-of-homeland-security-brings-us-to-a-halt-again/" title="newstechnica.com">hobbled the American economy once more</a> [newstechnica.com].</p><p>DHS stuntman Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab caused a minor conflagration aboard a Detroit-bound plane on Saturday. "It worked spectacularly well," said his father, Nigerian banker Bnkr. Alhaji Umaru MUTALLAB. "He sent TWENTY-FIVE MILLION (25,000,000.00) Twitter messages about it. 'Stuck on runway for 1/2hr oh well catch up on da vinci code should hv time 2 finish b4 destroying USA.' I would have sent the full collection of messages to the authorities, but they were unfortunately unable to forward me a mere three thousand Twitter messages to enable my expenses in doing so."</p><p>This year, as every year, Umar had sent his relatives Christmas cards reading "MERRY CHRISTMAS, YOU WESTERNISED PIG-DOGS, SLEEP WELL FOR TOMORROW YOU SHALL BURN IN AGONY FOR ALL ETERNITY, ALLAH BE PRAISED". However, it appeared he had become "radicalised" by a sojourn in London, during which he read a book about George W. Bush, a close personal friend of the bin Laden branch of the Saudi royal family, and was inspired to take the fight to American soil. "Whenever the infidel appears complacent," he wrote to a friend, "we shall send a DHS operative to do something pathetically stupid and harmless that we may take as an excuse to torture more civilians and make movement within American yet more impracticable. Praise Allah! Praise Jesus!"</p><p>The "DHS" has crippled America's economy since its initial attacks on the World Trade Center in 2001. Air travel has all but ceased in the country and international visits have plummeted. Those few daring to travel find themselves cavity-search, X-rayed and anally probed. Some "DHS" operatives, brazenly working in plain sight, have become celebrities and tourist attractions, such as Big Bertha at Seattle Airport.</p><p>Mr Mutallab said the family were relieved Umar had finally made his public debut. "Apart from the obvious gigs selling our story to credulous Western news outlets, we can finally take down that God-awful shrine with the twin towers and the effigies, clean the place up and, who knows, maybe rent out the spare room at last. Are you sure <i>you</i> don't have three thousand (3,000.00) messages you can spare to facilitate the transmission of another twenty-five million to yourself? Please assist, dear one!"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>LITTLE BROTHER , Detroit , Sunday -- The American-based terrorist group " Department of Homeland Security " ( the Arabic term for " Department of Homeland Security " ) has successfully hobbled the American economy once more [ newstechnica.com ] .DHS stuntman Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab caused a minor conflagration aboard a Detroit-bound plane on Saturday .
" It worked spectacularly well , " said his father , Nigerian banker Bnkr .
Alhaji Umaru MUTALLAB .
" He sent TWENTY-FIVE MILLION ( 25,000,000.00 ) Twitter messages about it .
'Stuck on runway for 1/2hr oh well catch up on da vinci code should hv time 2 finish b4 destroying USA .
' I would have sent the full collection of messages to the authorities , but they were unfortunately unable to forward me a mere three thousand Twitter messages to enable my expenses in doing so .
" This year , as every year , Umar had sent his relatives Christmas cards reading " MERRY CHRISTMAS , YOU WESTERNISED PIG-DOGS , SLEEP WELL FOR TOMORROW YOU SHALL BURN IN AGONY FOR ALL ETERNITY , ALLAH BE PRAISED " .
However , it appeared he had become " radicalised " by a sojourn in London , during which he read a book about George W. Bush , a close personal friend of the bin Laden branch of the Saudi royal family , and was inspired to take the fight to American soil .
" Whenever the infidel appears complacent , " he wrote to a friend , " we shall send a DHS operative to do something pathetically stupid and harmless that we may take as an excuse to torture more civilians and make movement within American yet more impracticable .
Praise Allah !
Praise Jesus !
" The " DHS " has crippled America 's economy since its initial attacks on the World Trade Center in 2001 .
Air travel has all but ceased in the country and international visits have plummeted .
Those few daring to travel find themselves cavity-search , X-rayed and anally probed .
Some " DHS " operatives , brazenly working in plain sight , have become celebrities and tourist attractions , such as Big Bertha at Seattle Airport.Mr Mutallab said the family were relieved Umar had finally made his public debut .
" Apart from the obvious gigs selling our story to credulous Western news outlets , we can finally take down that God-awful shrine with the twin towers and the effigies , clean the place up and , who knows , maybe rent out the spare room at last .
Are you sure you do n't have three thousand ( 3,000.00 ) messages you can spare to facilitate the transmission of another twenty-five million to yourself ?
Please assist , dear one !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext> LITTLE BROTHER, Detroit, Sunday -- The American-based terrorist group "Department of Homeland Security" (the Arabic term for "Department of Homeland Security") has successfully hobbled the American economy once more [newstechnica.com].DHS stuntman Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab caused a minor conflagration aboard a Detroit-bound plane on Saturday.
"It worked spectacularly well," said his father, Nigerian banker Bnkr.
Alhaji Umaru MUTALLAB.
"He sent TWENTY-FIVE MILLION (25,000,000.00) Twitter messages about it.
'Stuck on runway for 1/2hr oh well catch up on da vinci code should hv time 2 finish b4 destroying USA.
' I would have sent the full collection of messages to the authorities, but they were unfortunately unable to forward me a mere three thousand Twitter messages to enable my expenses in doing so.
"This year, as every year, Umar had sent his relatives Christmas cards reading "MERRY CHRISTMAS, YOU WESTERNISED PIG-DOGS, SLEEP WELL FOR TOMORROW YOU SHALL BURN IN AGONY FOR ALL ETERNITY, ALLAH BE PRAISED".
However, it appeared he had become "radicalised" by a sojourn in London, during which he read a book about George W. Bush, a close personal friend of the bin Laden branch of the Saudi royal family, and was inspired to take the fight to American soil.
"Whenever the infidel appears complacent," he wrote to a friend, "we shall send a DHS operative to do something pathetically stupid and harmless that we may take as an excuse to torture more civilians and make movement within American yet more impracticable.
Praise Allah!
Praise Jesus!
"The "DHS" has crippled America's economy since its initial attacks on the World Trade Center in 2001.
Air travel has all but ceased in the country and international visits have plummeted.
Those few daring to travel find themselves cavity-search, X-rayed and anally probed.
Some "DHS" operatives, brazenly working in plain sight, have become celebrities and tourist attractions, such as Big Bertha at Seattle Airport.Mr Mutallab said the family were relieved Umar had finally made his public debut.
"Apart from the obvious gigs selling our story to credulous Western news outlets, we can finally take down that God-awful shrine with the twin towers and the effigies, clean the place up and, who knows, maybe rent out the spare room at last.
Are you sure you don't have three thousand (3,000.00) messages you can spare to facilitate the transmission of another twenty-five million to yourself?
Please assist, dear one!
"</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:And of course...</title>
	<author>wwphx</author>
	<datestamp>1262344740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>When I worked as a civilian for the police department, part of computer services was officers involved in computer crimes.  While I was there, to the best of my knowledge, they always took great care in disassembling systems and mirroring drives so that the computers were functional when returned (original disks were NEVER booted).  They were all computer geeks and didn't want to disrupt things for the user when they got their stuff back.  Not to mention they would have to defend their practices in court regarding chain of evidence, so they had to be careful.<br> <br>

Of course, the ones that I worked with weren't feds, and this was some years ago.  Now with the apparent presumption of guilt overriding presumption of innocence, who knows.  So many of the cases were kiddie porn I'd just as soon see the computers torched, but that's just my opinion.</htmltext>
<tokenext>When I worked as a civilian for the police department , part of computer services was officers involved in computer crimes .
While I was there , to the best of my knowledge , they always took great care in disassembling systems and mirroring drives so that the computers were functional when returned ( original disks were NEVER booted ) .
They were all computer geeks and did n't want to disrupt things for the user when they got their stuff back .
Not to mention they would have to defend their practices in court regarding chain of evidence , so they had to be careful .
Of course , the ones that I worked with were n't feds , and this was some years ago .
Now with the apparent presumption of guilt overriding presumption of innocence , who knows .
So many of the cases were kiddie porn I 'd just as soon see the computers torched , but that 's just my opinion .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I worked as a civilian for the police department, part of computer services was officers involved in computer crimes.
While I was there, to the best of my knowledge, they always took great care in disassembling systems and mirroring drives so that the computers were functional when returned (original disks were NEVER booted).
They were all computer geeks and didn't want to disrupt things for the user when they got their stuff back.
Not to mention they would have to defend their practices in court regarding chain of evidence, so they had to be careful.
Of course, the ones that I worked with weren't feds, and this was some years ago.
Now with the apparent presumption of guilt overriding presumption of innocence, who knows.
So many of the cases were kiddie porn I'd just as soon see the computers torched, but that's just my opinion.</sentencetext>
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