<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_12_29_1921257</id>
	<title>Canadian Censorship Takes Down 4500 Sites</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1262073600000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="mailto:mtobis@gmail.FORTRANcomminuslanguage" rel="nofollow">uncadonna</a> writes <i>"According to activist group <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The\_yes\_men">The Yes Men</a>, the government of Canada <a href="http://theyesmen.org/canadareacts">has shut down two parody websites</a> criticizing Canada's poor environmental policy. The article goes on to claim that 'In response to Environment Canada's request, Serverloft immediately turned off a whole block of IP addresses, knocking out more than 4500 websites that had nothing to do with the parody sites or the activists who created them. Serverloft was shown no warrant, and never called the web hosting company about the shutdown.'"</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>uncadonna writes " According to activist group The Yes Men , the government of Canada has shut down two parody websites criticizing Canada 's poor environmental policy .
The article goes on to claim that 'In response to Environment Canada 's request , Serverloft immediately turned off a whole block of IP addresses , knocking out more than 4500 websites that had nothing to do with the parody sites or the activists who created them .
Serverloft was shown no warrant , and never called the web hosting company about the shutdown .
' "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>uncadonna writes "According to activist group The Yes Men, the government of Canada has shut down two parody websites criticizing Canada's poor environmental policy.
The article goes on to claim that 'In response to Environment Canada's request, Serverloft immediately turned off a whole block of IP addresses, knocking out more than 4500 websites that had nothing to do with the parody sites or the activists who created them.
Serverloft was shown no warrant, and never called the web hosting company about the shutdown.
'"</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30585816</id>
	<title>Invoking John Gilmore</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262077740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/John\_Gilmore" title="wikiquote.org">"The net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it."</a> [wikiquote.org] The solution is obvious: Move your servers to a more free-speech friendly country. When the US and Canada start to see that taking down sites at the drop of a hat is very harmful to their hosting businesses, then maybe they will do something about it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" The net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it .
" [ wikiquote.org ] The solution is obvious : Move your servers to a more free-speech friendly country .
When the US and Canada start to see that taking down sites at the drop of a hat is very harmful to their hosting businesses , then maybe they will do something about it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"The net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it.
" [wikiquote.org] The solution is obvious: Move your servers to a more free-speech friendly country.
When the US and Canada start to see that taking down sites at the drop of a hat is very harmful to their hosting businesses, then maybe they will do something about it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30589232</id>
	<title>scary slope</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262094540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>we seem to be on a dangerous slope where governments are trying to censor every person who has an opinion that differs than theirs. Whats next? A list of banned words, sentences. 'No citizen shall use a negative verb and a noun representing a government person or place in the same paragraph....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>we seem to be on a dangerous slope where governments are trying to censor every person who has an opinion that differs than theirs .
Whats next ?
A list of banned words , sentences .
'No citizen shall use a negative verb and a noun representing a government person or place in the same paragraph... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>we seem to be on a dangerous slope where governments are trying to censor every person who has an opinion that differs than theirs.
Whats next?
A list of banned words, sentences.
'No citizen shall use a negative verb and a noun representing a government person or place in the same paragraph....</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30587640</id>
	<title>HOAX (likely)</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262085840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Yes Men are notorious for all kind of Machiavellian stunts with supposed good intent done "in the name of the people".  I wouldn't believe anything spewing forth from their mentally twisted pieholes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Yes Men are notorious for all kind of Machiavellian stunts with supposed good intent done " in the name of the people " .
I would n't believe anything spewing forth from their mentally twisted pieholes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Yes Men are notorious for all kind of Machiavellian stunts with supposed good intent done "in the name of the people".
I wouldn't believe anything spewing forth from their mentally twisted pieholes.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30586496</id>
	<title>Link works fine</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262080920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Tried opening it from work, and I work at a Canadian federal government office (not Environment Canada)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Tried opening it from work , and I work at a Canadian federal government office ( not Environment Canada )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tried opening it from work, and I work at a Canadian federal government office (not Environment Canada)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30585796</id>
	<title>What's up, eh?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262077680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What's this aboot Canada's environmental policy, eh? I heard it was pretty good, but then it turns out they must be dumping oil in the rivers and feeding toxic waste to seals.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What 's this aboot Canada 's environmental policy , eh ?
I heard it was pretty good , but then it turns out they must be dumping oil in the rivers and feeding toxic waste to seals .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What's this aboot Canada's environmental policy, eh?
I heard it was pretty good, but then it turns out they must be dumping oil in the rivers and feeding toxic waste to seals.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30587040</id>
	<title>Re:Works for me</title>
	<author>ArsenneLupin</author>
	<datestamp>1262083860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>This is either some quick backpedaling or bogus.</p></div><p>Or some nimble work finding another hosting provider. Hehe, wouldn't it be funny if 4498 unrelated sites were offline, but the two sites that were targeted were online again at a different provider<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is either some quick backpedaling or bogus.Or some nimble work finding another hosting provider .
Hehe , would n't it be funny if 4498 unrelated sites were offline , but the two sites that were targeted were online again at a different provider : - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is either some quick backpedaling or bogus.Or some nimble work finding another hosting provider.
Hehe, wouldn't it be funny if 4498 unrelated sites were offline, but the two sites that were targeted were online again at a different provider :-)
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30585864</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30585772</id>
	<title>I call BS</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262077560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There aren't 4,500 people in Canaduh that even have the internet. Let alone that many websites.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There are n't 4,500 people in Canaduh that even have the internet .
Let alone that many websites .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There aren't 4,500 people in Canaduh that even have the internet.
Let alone that many websites.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30585880</id>
	<title>misleading</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262077980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How can you blame the Canadian government for the hosting provider incompetence? They sent the provider a letter with their grievance, the provider is the one responsible for following through without due process, a warrant and apparently then they screw it up?</p><p>Sounds like hosting provider fail to me and the yes men crying like little whiners.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How can you blame the Canadian government for the hosting provider incompetence ?
They sent the provider a letter with their grievance , the provider is the one responsible for following through without due process , a warrant and apparently then they screw it up ? Sounds like hosting provider fail to me and the yes men crying like little whiners .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How can you blame the Canadian government for the hosting provider incompetence?
They sent the provider a letter with their grievance, the provider is the one responsible for following through without due process, a warrant and apparently then they screw it up?Sounds like hosting provider fail to me and the yes men crying like little whiners.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30587366</id>
	<title>Re:Invoking John Gilmore</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1262084940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And that&rsquo;s why a &ldquo;global government&rdquo; is going to fuck us, hard.</p><p>Where will you go, if there is only one country? Or a group, and they are all just as bad.</p><p>To an island with a satellite dish? Just wait until they cut off the connection, the supplies, and come with a ship full of snipers, if needed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And that    s why a    global government    is going to fuck us , hard.Where will you go , if there is only one country ?
Or a group , and they are all just as bad.To an island with a satellite dish ?
Just wait until they cut off the connection , the supplies , and come with a ship full of snipers , if needed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And that’s why a “global government” is going to fuck us, hard.Where will you go, if there is only one country?
Or a group, and they are all just as bad.To an island with a satellite dish?
Just wait until they cut off the connection, the supplies, and come with a ship full of snipers, if needed.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30585816</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30597774</id>
	<title>Re:Downhill slide in gov'ts?</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1259870520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think it's always been this way. The power-hungry will be the first to run for office, and the first to win by nefarious means. Reading a little history will confirm this for you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think it 's always been this way .
The power-hungry will be the first to run for office , and the first to win by nefarious means .
Reading a little history will confirm this for you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think it's always been this way.
The power-hungry will be the first to run for office, and the first to win by nefarious means.
Reading a little history will confirm this for you.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30585846</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30585790</id>
	<title>Worth about as much</title>
	<author>Mikkeles</author>
	<datestamp>1262077620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just goes to show you that our Bill of Rights is worth about as much as <a href="http://www.fotosearch.com/bigcomp.asp?path=FSD/FSD355/x16466850.jpg" title="fotosearch.com">this</a> [fotosearch.com].</p><p>(Yeah, we're not much different in that from anywhere else; just in what's censored.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just goes to show you that our Bill of Rights is worth about as much as this [ fotosearch.com ] .
( Yeah , we 're not much different in that from anywhere else ; just in what 's censored .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just goes to show you that our Bill of Rights is worth about as much as this [fotosearch.com].
(Yeah, we're not much different in that from anywhere else; just in what's censored.
)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30587798</id>
	<title>Defamation of Character?</title>
	<author>gizmonic</author>
	<datestamp>1262086380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My first thought on reading the summary was that Serverloft was a bunch of tools.  As I read more and realized the press release was probably a hoax, it made me think.  I know the US and Canada have different laws, and IANAL, but if this were the US, I would tend to think Serverloft would have a decent case of libel against them.  They can claim "parody" all they want, but if I had merely skimmed the surface, and not read deeper, Severloft woulda been stuck with a negative connotation for me all because these a holes want to screw around.  How many of Serverloft's customers read that press release and immediately went and checked if their sites were up?  How many are currently looking for a new provider right now?  I am all for free speech.  If I say "Company A sucks" then fine.  Too bad for them.  (In the US, of course, I'm sure some company's attorney would want to sue you over voicing that opinion.)  But to say they killed 4500 customers in a knee jerk reaction when they didn't?  That is not the same thing at all.  That can have actual damages.  And if I were Serverloft, I'd be consulting someone about it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My first thought on reading the summary was that Serverloft was a bunch of tools .
As I read more and realized the press release was probably a hoax , it made me think .
I know the US and Canada have different laws , and IANAL , but if this were the US , I would tend to think Serverloft would have a decent case of libel against them .
They can claim " parody " all they want , but if I had merely skimmed the surface , and not read deeper , Severloft woulda been stuck with a negative connotation for me all because these a holes want to screw around .
How many of Serverloft 's customers read that press release and immediately went and checked if their sites were up ?
How many are currently looking for a new provider right now ?
I am all for free speech .
If I say " Company A sucks " then fine .
Too bad for them .
( In the US , of course , I 'm sure some company 's attorney would want to sue you over voicing that opinion .
) But to say they killed 4500 customers in a knee jerk reaction when they did n't ?
That is not the same thing at all .
That can have actual damages .
And if I were Serverloft , I 'd be consulting someone about it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My first thought on reading the summary was that Serverloft was a bunch of tools.
As I read more and realized the press release was probably a hoax, it made me think.
I know the US and Canada have different laws, and IANAL, but if this were the US, I would tend to think Serverloft would have a decent case of libel against them.
They can claim "parody" all they want, but if I had merely skimmed the surface, and not read deeper, Severloft woulda been stuck with a negative connotation for me all because these a holes want to screw around.
How many of Serverloft's customers read that press release and immediately went and checked if their sites were up?
How many are currently looking for a new provider right now?
I am all for free speech.
If I say "Company A sucks" then fine.
Too bad for them.
(In the US, of course, I'm sure some company's attorney would want to sue you over voicing that opinion.
)  But to say they killed 4500 customers in a knee jerk reaction when they didn't?
That is not the same thing at all.
That can have actual damages.
And if I were Serverloft, I'd be consulting someone about it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30586832</id>
	<title>Re:Invoking John Gilmore</title>
	<author>cpghost</author>
	<datestamp>1262082660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Move your servers to a more free-speech friendly country.</p></div></blockquote><p>

Yes... except that we are quickly running out of free-speech friendly countries (Canada was one of the most free). Soon we'll have to seriously think about putting pirate senders in orbit, just like the old off-shore pirate radio stations of the last century.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Move your servers to a more free-speech friendly country .
Yes... except that we are quickly running out of free-speech friendly countries ( Canada was one of the most free ) .
Soon we 'll have to seriously think about putting pirate senders in orbit , just like the old off-shore pirate radio stations of the last century .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Move your servers to a more free-speech friendly country.
Yes... except that we are quickly running out of free-speech friendly countries (Canada was one of the most free).
Soon we'll have to seriously think about putting pirate senders in orbit, just like the old off-shore pirate radio stations of the last century.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30585816</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30588584</id>
	<title>Re:Worth about as much</title>
	<author>Mashiki</author>
	<datestamp>1262090160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Our charter of rights and freedoms works fine.  S.1 however states that the government can override any part of it for a 'just' cause.  Seriously they need to stop teaching kids in highschool criminal and civil law and teach them government policy instead.</p><p>Oh you might have noticed that the website(s) aren't censored either.  You've just happily flown off the handle for a well known hack-group that does this stuff.  OTOH the Federal Government can get them shut down for use of a domain name/site that looks close to an official government one.  That type of stuff isn't looked highly on by anyone, not even the courts here.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Our charter of rights and freedoms works fine .
S.1 however states that the government can override any part of it for a 'just ' cause .
Seriously they need to stop teaching kids in highschool criminal and civil law and teach them government policy instead.Oh you might have noticed that the website ( s ) are n't censored either .
You 've just happily flown off the handle for a well known hack-group that does this stuff .
OTOH the Federal Government can get them shut down for use of a domain name/site that looks close to an official government one .
That type of stuff is n't looked highly on by anyone , not even the courts here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Our charter of rights and freedoms works fine.
S.1 however states that the government can override any part of it for a 'just' cause.
Seriously they need to stop teaching kids in highschool criminal and civil law and teach them government policy instead.Oh you might have noticed that the website(s) aren't censored either.
You've just happily flown off the handle for a well known hack-group that does this stuff.
OTOH the Federal Government can get them shut down for use of a domain name/site that looks close to an official government one.
That type of stuff isn't looked highly on by anyone, not even the courts here.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30585790</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30597980</id>
	<title>Re:Why don't you blame the people who are REALLY</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1259871300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, lets blame the people who are REALLY responsible, and it's not the voters (at least here south of the Canadian border). The corporate owned media convinces the voter that a vote for any "third party" candidate is wasted, and the corporations give campaign bribes to both "major" parties. No matter which candidate loses, the corporation wins.</p><p>In a climate like this it's simply one corporate entity against the other. The voters are meaningless (yet for some stupid reason I still vote).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , lets blame the people who are REALLY responsible , and it 's not the voters ( at least here south of the Canadian border ) .
The corporate owned media convinces the voter that a vote for any " third party " candidate is wasted , and the corporations give campaign bribes to both " major " parties .
No matter which candidate loses , the corporation wins.In a climate like this it 's simply one corporate entity against the other .
The voters are meaningless ( yet for some stupid reason I still vote ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, lets blame the people who are REALLY responsible, and it's not the voters (at least here south of the Canadian border).
The corporate owned media convinces the voter that a vote for any "third party" candidate is wasted, and the corporations give campaign bribes to both "major" parties.
No matter which candidate loses, the corporation wins.In a climate like this it's simply one corporate entity against the other.
The voters are meaningless (yet for some stupid reason I still vote).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30586132</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30586238</id>
	<title>Re:in soviet russia web site Censors you!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262079720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's really no wonder why you have a -1 rating.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's really no wonder why you have a -1 rating .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's really no wonder why you have a -1 rating.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30585722</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30590404</id>
	<title>Re:Works for me</title>
	<author>darthflo</author>
	<datestamp>1262106060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Apparently, the affected sites were not clients of Serverloft but of a web hoster whose servers are located in Serverloft's datacentre, connected through Serverloft's routing system. Serverloft apparently got really impressed by the Canucks' request for a takedown and, not having electronic access to the servers just shut down the entire IP range of their client, that hosting company.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apparently , the affected sites were not clients of Serverloft but of a web hoster whose servers are located in Serverloft 's datacentre , connected through Serverloft 's routing system .
Serverloft apparently got really impressed by the Canucks ' request for a takedown and , not having electronic access to the servers just shut down the entire IP range of their client , that hosting company .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apparently, the affected sites were not clients of Serverloft but of a web hoster whose servers are located in Serverloft's datacentre, connected through Serverloft's routing system.
Serverloft apparently got really impressed by the Canucks' request for a takedown and, not having electronic access to the servers just shut down the entire IP range of their client, that hosting company.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30585964</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30586156</id>
	<title>Re:Conservatives</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262079180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Welcome to the club.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Welcome to the club .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Welcome to the club.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30585818</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30587364</id>
	<title>The bullies have to go...</title>
	<author>TheRealGrogan</author>
	<datestamp>1262084880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The current government in Canada needs to go. I don't give a shit about environmentalists and their agendas, but they have every right to publish them on their web sites.</p><p>ServerLoft was most likely bullied into taking that action... it's the Harper government's MO. Behind closed doors, "or else" type directives. What a bunch of spineless fucks... they don't even have datacenters in Canada. Just the threat of being sued.</p><p>We all know what hosting datacenter to avoid now. ServerLoft can go piss up a rope. The negative publicity from this will punish them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The current government in Canada needs to go .
I do n't give a shit about environmentalists and their agendas , but they have every right to publish them on their web sites.ServerLoft was most likely bullied into taking that action... it 's the Harper government 's MO .
Behind closed doors , " or else " type directives .
What a bunch of spineless fucks... they do n't even have datacenters in Canada .
Just the threat of being sued.We all know what hosting datacenter to avoid now .
ServerLoft can go piss up a rope .
The negative publicity from this will punish them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The current government in Canada needs to go.
I don't give a shit about environmentalists and their agendas, but they have every right to publish them on their web sites.ServerLoft was most likely bullied into taking that action... it's the Harper government's MO.
Behind closed doors, "or else" type directives.
What a bunch of spineless fucks... they don't even have datacenters in Canada.
Just the threat of being sued.We all know what hosting datacenter to avoid now.
ServerLoft can go piss up a rope.
The negative publicity from this will punish them.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30587108</id>
	<title>In related news...</title>
	<author>damburger</author>
	<datestamp>1262084040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The Canadian government has decided to use RPGs to take out shoplifters.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Canadian government has decided to use RPGs to take out shoplifters .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Canadian government has decided to use RPGs to take out shoplifters.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30586132</id>
	<title>Why don't you blame the people who are REALLY</title>
	<author>SmallFurryCreature</author>
	<datestamp>1262079120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why don't you blame the people who are REALLY responsible? The voters.
</p><p>As long as people vote for the guy who tells them they can keep their 2 suvs and that he will lower their taxes (never actually happened anywhere) you will get these kind of guys.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why do n't you blame the people who are REALLY responsible ?
The voters .
As long as people vote for the guy who tells them they can keep their 2 suvs and that he will lower their taxes ( never actually happened anywhere ) you will get these kind of guys .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why don't you blame the people who are REALLY responsible?
The voters.
As long as people vote for the guy who tells them they can keep their 2 suvs and that he will lower their taxes (never actually happened anywhere) you will get these kind of guys.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30585846</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30585812</id>
	<title>Issue an urgent appeal to President Obama!!!!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262077740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He'll save you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He 'll save you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He'll save you.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30586410</id>
	<title>Only in America!</title>
	<author>GhostGuy</author>
	<datestamp>1262080560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wait, what?
Oh fuck. Thanks, Canada, there goes my backup plan...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wait , what ?
Oh fuck .
Thanks , Canada , there goes my backup plan.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wait, what?
Oh fuck.
Thanks, Canada, there goes my backup plan...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30587772</id>
	<title>Re:What's up, eh?</title>
	<author>wumingzi</author>
	<datestamp>1262086320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I heard it was pretty good, but then it turns out they must be dumping oil in the rivers and feeding toxic waste to seals.</i></p><p>It's good in the national mythology.  Beautiful soaring mountains, pristine lakes.  Verdant forests.  I saw it on the CBC, so it must be true!  (All those things do exist.  I've been to them.  They're really cool).</p><p>The reality is that British Columbia is a giant clearcut once you go more than 100 km from Vancouver, and the prairie is being torn up as fast as possible in Alberta to get to the black gold that lies beneath.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I heard it was pretty good , but then it turns out they must be dumping oil in the rivers and feeding toxic waste to seals.It 's good in the national mythology .
Beautiful soaring mountains , pristine lakes .
Verdant forests .
I saw it on the CBC , so it must be true !
( All those things do exist .
I 've been to them .
They 're really cool ) .The reality is that British Columbia is a giant clearcut once you go more than 100 km from Vancouver , and the prairie is being torn up as fast as possible in Alberta to get to the black gold that lies beneath .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I heard it was pretty good, but then it turns out they must be dumping oil in the rivers and feeding toxic waste to seals.It's good in the national mythology.
Beautiful soaring mountains, pristine lakes.
Verdant forests.
I saw it on the CBC, so it must be true!
(All those things do exist.
I've been to them.
They're really cool).The reality is that British Columbia is a giant clearcut once you go more than 100 km from Vancouver, and the prairie is being torn up as fast as possible in Alberta to get to the black gold that lies beneath.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30585796</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30586492</id>
	<title>Fake</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262080920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Shockingly the description is a bit off.

They basically registered a domain very similar to the real domain with a very legitimate looking website to fool people into thinking it was the real thing.

If they changed the domain name it would still be there. (which it seems to be anyway)

No story.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Shockingly the description is a bit off .
They basically registered a domain very similar to the real domain with a very legitimate looking website to fool people into thinking it was the real thing .
If they changed the domain name it would still be there .
( which it seems to be anyway ) No story .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Shockingly the description is a bit off.
They basically registered a domain very similar to the real domain with a very legitimate looking website to fool people into thinking it was the real thing.
If they changed the domain name it would still be there.
(which it seems to be anyway)

No story.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30587538</id>
	<title>These Sites don't even look like Can Govt Sites</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262085480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The sites are indeed still up, and look identical.  However they look nothing like the Common Look and Feel (CLF) that Canadian Government sites are mandated by the Treasury Board to use.  Environment Canada's site:  http://www.ec.gc.ca/default.asp?lang=En&amp;n=DA294545-1 shows a very different look.  Anyone looking for a Government Contact or information would not be fooled.  I think this whole thing is a bit of a hoax.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The sites are indeed still up , and look identical .
However they look nothing like the Common Look and Feel ( CLF ) that Canadian Government sites are mandated by the Treasury Board to use .
Environment Canada 's site : http : //www.ec.gc.ca/default.asp ? lang = En&amp;n = DA294545-1 shows a very different look .
Anyone looking for a Government Contact or information would not be fooled .
I think this whole thing is a bit of a hoax .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The sites are indeed still up, and look identical.
However they look nothing like the Common Look and Feel (CLF) that Canadian Government sites are mandated by the Treasury Board to use.
Environment Canada's site:  http://www.ec.gc.ca/default.asp?lang=En&amp;n=DA294545-1 shows a very different look.
Anyone looking for a Government Contact or information would not be fooled.
I think this whole thing is a bit of a hoax.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30585888</id>
	<title>Question</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262077980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is it me or is the Global Elite just getting lazy?</p><p>At least for the last 120 years they put some effort into hiding the fact that we are in fact all powerless pesants under the heel of an elite in which the law only serves said elite. At least we had the illusion of "equality, the rule of law, and freedom."</p><p>I for one an dissapointed in my ruling shadow government and would like to formally request that a new shadow government that plans to treat me like a pesant, rise up, over throw the existing elite, and establish a new global elite that will at least TRY and hide the fact there is a global elite that owns us, does as they please, and mearly offer us the illusion that laws apply to everyone equally.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is it me or is the Global Elite just getting lazy ? At least for the last 120 years they put some effort into hiding the fact that we are in fact all powerless pesants under the heel of an elite in which the law only serves said elite .
At least we had the illusion of " equality , the rule of law , and freedom .
" I for one an dissapointed in my ruling shadow government and would like to formally request that a new shadow government that plans to treat me like a pesant , rise up , over throw the existing elite , and establish a new global elite that will at least TRY and hide the fact there is a global elite that owns us , does as they please , and mearly offer us the illusion that laws apply to everyone equally .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is it me or is the Global Elite just getting lazy?At least for the last 120 years they put some effort into hiding the fact that we are in fact all powerless pesants under the heel of an elite in which the law only serves said elite.
At least we had the illusion of "equality, the rule of law, and freedom.
"I for one an dissapointed in my ruling shadow government and would like to formally request that a new shadow government that plans to treat me like a pesant, rise up, over throw the existing elite, and establish a new global elite that will at least TRY and hide the fact there is a global elite that owns us, does as they please, and mearly offer us the illusion that laws apply to everyone equally.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30587786</id>
	<title>Re:Works for me</title>
	<author>palegray.net</author>
	<datestamp>1262086320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ah, the wonders of keeping your DNS records set to a low TTL.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ah , the wonders of keeping your DNS records set to a low TTL .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ah, the wonders of keeping your DNS records set to a low TTL.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30587040</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30585760</id>
	<title>Offshore</title>
	<author>bbhack</author>
	<datestamp>1262077500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Offshore your servers. Just for fun.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Offshore your servers .
Just for fun .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Offshore your servers.
Just for fun.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30591212</id>
	<title>nice astroturfing style</title>
	<author>circletimessquare</author>
	<datestamp>1259871960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>get attention to a hoax site with a hoax takedown story</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>get attention to a hoax site with a hoax takedown story</tokentext>
<sentencetext>get attention to a hoax site with a hoax takedown story</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30585864</id>
	<title>Re:Works for me</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262077920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Both sites appear to be working fine from here in Canada also.  This is either some quick backpedaling or bogus.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Both sites appear to be working fine from here in Canada also .
This is either some quick backpedaling or bogus .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Both sites appear to be working fine from here in Canada also.
This is either some quick backpedaling or bogus.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30585730</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30587172</id>
	<title>Re:Works for me</title>
	<author>ArsenneLupin</author>
	<datestamp>1262084280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Either they turned them back on really quick, or the article itself is hoax-ad-ware?</p></div><p>... or the sites picked another hosting provider? Indeed, tcptraceroute shows that enviro-canada.ca is now hosted in Denmark, whereas serverloft is in Germany.</p><p>
I hope that the 4498 unrelated sites that have been clobbered along with them will find another hosting provider as well.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Either they turned them back on really quick , or the article itself is hoax-ad-ware ? .. .
or the sites picked another hosting provider ?
Indeed , tcptraceroute shows that enviro-canada.ca is now hosted in Denmark , whereas serverloft is in Germany .
I hope that the 4498 unrelated sites that have been clobbered along with them will find another hosting provider as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Either they turned them back on really quick, or the article itself is hoax-ad-ware?...
or the sites picked another hosting provider?
Indeed, tcptraceroute shows that enviro-canada.ca is now hosted in Denmark, whereas serverloft is in Germany.
I hope that the 4498 unrelated sites that have been clobbered along with them will find another hosting provider as well.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30585878</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30585878</id>
	<title>Re:Works for me</title>
	<author>uncledrax</author>
	<datestamp>1262077980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ditto.</p><p>Either they turned them back on really quick, or the article itself is hoax-ad-ware? or something.. i'm sure there's some pre-ordained term for this from the Elders of the Internet</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ditto.Either they turned them back on really quick , or the article itself is hoax-ad-ware ?
or something.. i 'm sure there 's some pre-ordained term for this from the Elders of the Internet</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ditto.Either they turned them back on really quick, or the article itself is hoax-ad-ware?
or something.. i'm sure there's some pre-ordained term for this from the Elders of the Internet</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30585730</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30586404</id>
	<title>self-inflicted?</title>
	<author>molecular</author>
	<datestamp>1262080500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>since the site seems to be fine from anywhere and a whole ip-segment was screwed, maybe these yes-men screwed up one of their own routers, suspected some conspiracy and then made up this story?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>since the site seems to be fine from anywhere and a whole ip-segment was screwed , maybe these yes-men screwed up one of their own routers , suspected some conspiracy and then made up this story ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>since the site seems to be fine from anywhere and a whole ip-segment was screwed, maybe these yes-men screwed up one of their own routers, suspected some conspiracy and then made up this story?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30586524</id>
	<title>asked them</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262081100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Since the sites in question seem fine, I posted a comment on their site <a href="http://theyesmen.org/canadareacts?nocache=1#comment-7088" title="theyesmen.org" rel="nofollow">http://theyesmen.org/canadareacts?nocache=1#comment-7088</a> [theyesmen.org], which is now queued for moderator approval... how lame is that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Since the sites in question seem fine , I posted a comment on their site http : //theyesmen.org/canadareacts ? nocache = 1 # comment-7088 [ theyesmen.org ] , which is now queued for moderator approval... how lame is that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since the sites in question seem fine, I posted a comment on their site http://theyesmen.org/canadareacts?nocache=1#comment-7088 [theyesmen.org], which is now queued for moderator approval... how lame is that.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30585756</id>
	<title>Hmmm</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262077500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I thought Canada was a bastion of civil liberties.  What, with all the whiny hippies claiming they would move there if $event happened.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I thought Canada was a bastion of civil liberties .
What , with all the whiny hippies claiming they would move there if $ event happened .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I thought Canada was a bastion of civil liberties.
What, with all the whiny hippies claiming they would move there if $event happened.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30590330</id>
	<title>Re:Works for me</title>
	<author>EnviroCanada</author>
	<datestamp>1262105220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Umm, <a href="http://ec-gc.ca/" title="ec-gc.ca" rel="nofollow">http://ec-gc.ca/</a> [ec-gc.ca] is working for me.....</p></div><p>You'll do better by going to Google and putting this in the search box:</p><p>site:enviro-canada.ca</p><p>site:ec-gc.ca</p><p>and then, of course, clicking on the "cache" links.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Umm , http : //ec-gc.ca/ [ ec-gc.ca ] is working for me.....You 'll do better by going to Google and putting this in the search box : site : enviro-canada.casite : ec-gc.caand then , of course , clicking on the " cache " links .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Umm, http://ec-gc.ca/ [ec-gc.ca] is working for me.....You'll do better by going to Google and putting this in the search box:site:enviro-canada.casite:ec-gc.caand then, of course, clicking on the "cache" links.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30585730</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30585886</id>
	<title>Uh, More Hoax?</title>
	<author>TrebleJunkie</author>
	<datestamp>1262077980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Uh, could the press release (from the Hoaxsters, no less) just be more of a Hoax?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Uh , could the press release ( from the Hoaxsters , no less ) just be more of a Hoax ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Uh, could the press release (from the Hoaxsters, no less) just be more of a Hoax?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30586664</id>
	<title>Government of Canada Web Sites Use CLF</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262081820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you visit any web site of the Government of Canada (GoC) there is a common look and feel (CLF) standard to which the web sites must comply for accessibility and other reasons. The two parody web sites in no way resemble nor utilize the GoC CLF and therefore could not possibly be mistaken for official government web sites.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you visit any web site of the Government of Canada ( GoC ) there is a common look and feel ( CLF ) standard to which the web sites must comply for accessibility and other reasons .
The two parody web sites in no way resemble nor utilize the GoC CLF and therefore could not possibly be mistaken for official government web sites .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you visit any web site of the Government of Canada (GoC) there is a common look and feel (CLF) standard to which the web sites must comply for accessibility and other reasons.
The two parody web sites in no way resemble nor utilize the GoC CLF and therefore could not possibly be mistaken for official government web sites.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30585722</id>
	<title>in soviet russia web site Censors you!</title>
	<author>Joe The Dragon</author>
	<datestamp>1262077320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>in soviet russia web site Censors you!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>in soviet russia web site Censors you !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>in soviet russia web site Censors you!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30586040</id>
	<title>Re:Hmmm</title>
	<author>oldspewey</author>
	<datestamp>1262078640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Under the current conservative party government, we've been on a slow, quiet, insidious slide toward fascism. Suppression of information is a frequent and favourite tactic of this government - which is ironic considering they campaigned on "openness and accountability" during the '06 election.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Under the current conservative party government , we 've been on a slow , quiet , insidious slide toward fascism .
Suppression of information is a frequent and favourite tactic of this government - which is ironic considering they campaigned on " openness and accountability " during the '06 election .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Under the current conservative party government, we've been on a slow, quiet, insidious slide toward fascism.
Suppression of information is a frequent and favourite tactic of this government - which is ironic considering they campaigned on "openness and accountability" during the '06 election.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30585756</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30586324</id>
	<title>The real problem with ths site</title>
	<author>arthurpaliden</author>
	<datestamp>1262080260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Was that they infringed on copyrights and tradmarks.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Was that they infringed on copyrights and tradmarks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Was that they infringed on copyrights and tradmarks.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30586766</id>
	<title>Hmm..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262082360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What were the other 4500 related websites?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What were the other 4500 related websites ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What were the other 4500 related websites?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30589676</id>
	<title>Re:Works for me</title>
	<author>JumperCable</author>
	<datestamp>1262098620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Looks like shit to me.</p><p>Screenshot:<br><a href="http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/7672/serverloft.jpg" title="imageshack.us">http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/7672/serverloft.jpg</a> [imageshack.us]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Looks like shit to me.Screenshot : http : //img704.imageshack.us/img704/7672/serverloft.jpg [ imageshack.us ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Looks like shit to me.Screenshot:http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/7672/serverloft.jpg [imageshack.us]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30585730</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30587890</id>
	<title>Re:Works for me</title>
	<author>SlashDread</author>
	<datestamp>1262086740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Joe job" may cover it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Joe job " may cover it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Joe job" may cover it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30585878</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30586674</id>
	<title>Re:Question</title>
	<author>MarkvW</author>
	<datestamp>1262081880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You are hilarious.  If I'm living a peasant life, I wonder what kind of life those in 3rd world countries live!</p><p>Fat, happy peasants of the world UNITE!  You have nothing to lose except your consumer goods!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You are hilarious .
If I 'm living a peasant life , I wonder what kind of life those in 3rd world countries live ! Fat , happy peasants of the world UNITE !
You have nothing to lose except your consumer goods !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You are hilarious.
If I'm living a peasant life, I wonder what kind of life those in 3rd world countries live!Fat, happy peasants of the world UNITE!
You have nothing to lose except your consumer goods!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30585888</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30589030</id>
	<title>What happens when Yes-men really have a problem?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262092800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes-men: (dialing 911)<br>911 operator: hello emergency services, do you need police, ambulance, or fire?<br>Yes-men: Fire Trucks, right now, our offices are on fire and we have people trapped<br>911 operator: ahhh sure, our records show the calling number is from the "Yes-Men" organization who frequently do hoaxes<br>Yes-men: no! but this is for real!  Oh no, Bob in accounting is on fire!<br>911 operator: haha very funny</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes-men : ( dialing 911 ) 911 operator : hello emergency services , do you need police , ambulance , or fire ? Yes-men : Fire Trucks , right now , our offices are on fire and we have people trapped911 operator : ahhh sure , our records show the calling number is from the " Yes-Men " organization who frequently do hoaxesYes-men : no !
but this is for real !
Oh no , Bob in accounting is on fire ! 911 operator : haha very funny</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes-men: (dialing 911)911 operator: hello emergency services, do you need police, ambulance, or fire?Yes-men: Fire Trucks, right now, our offices are on fire and we have people trapped911 operator: ahhh sure, our records show the calling number is from the "Yes-Men" organization who frequently do hoaxesYes-men: no!
but this is for real!
Oh no, Bob in accounting is on fire!911 operator: haha very funny</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30587068</id>
	<title>And this is why you select your host properly</title>
	<author>holophrastic</author>
	<datestamp>1262083920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yet another reason I can tell my clients to use us for hosting.  Being their developers, we only host our own projects.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yet another reason I can tell my clients to use us for hosting .
Being their developers , we only host our own projects .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yet another reason I can tell my clients to use us for hosting.
Being their developers, we only host our own projects.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30585964</id>
	<title>Re:Works for me</title>
	<author>Nos.</author>
	<datestamp>1262078340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yup, both sites are working for me as well.</p><p>So a few questions pop to mind.  Did Serverloft shutdown the sites?  Or was there a temporary outage that these "yesmen" interrupted as a deliberate take down?  If Serverloft did take the sites down, why were 4500 other sites affected?  Can they not shut down one or two sites without taking down every other site that shares the same IP?  Why would a German ISP respond (briefly) to a request from "some guy" in a government job in another country, and then enable them again, within a matter of hours?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yup , both sites are working for me as well.So a few questions pop to mind .
Did Serverloft shutdown the sites ?
Or was there a temporary outage that these " yesmen " interrupted as a deliberate take down ?
If Serverloft did take the sites down , why were 4500 other sites affected ?
Can they not shut down one or two sites without taking down every other site that shares the same IP ?
Why would a German ISP respond ( briefly ) to a request from " some guy " in a government job in another country , and then enable them again , within a matter of hours ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yup, both sites are working for me as well.So a few questions pop to mind.
Did Serverloft shutdown the sites?
Or was there a temporary outage that these "yesmen" interrupted as a deliberate take down?
If Serverloft did take the sites down, why were 4500 other sites affected?
Can they not shut down one or two sites without taking down every other site that shares the same IP?
Why would a German ISP respond (briefly) to a request from "some guy" in a government job in another country, and then enable them again, within a matter of hours?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30585730</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30591944</id>
	<title>Re:self-inflicted?</title>
	<author>AnteTempore</author>
	<datestamp>1259842320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The suspend message on http://www.ec-gc.ca/ is updated. It explains the story more.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The suspend message on http : //www.ec-gc.ca/ is updated .
It explains the story more .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The suspend message on http://www.ec-gc.ca/ is updated.
It explains the story more.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30586404</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30589502</id>
	<title>Re:Works for me</title>
	<author>dangitman</author>
	<datestamp>1262097060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> i'm sure there's some pre-ordained term for this from the Elders of the Internet</p></div><p>Yes. We call it "Robert" (pronounced "Wobbert").</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>i 'm sure there 's some pre-ordained term for this from the Elders of the InternetYes .
We call it " Robert " ( pronounced " Wobbert " ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> i'm sure there's some pre-ordained term for this from the Elders of the InternetYes.
We call it "Robert" (pronounced "Wobbert").
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30585878</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30587702</id>
	<title>Re:Worth about as much</title>
	<author>wumingzi</author>
	<datestamp>1262086080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, you do need to work on that bit in the Charter of Rights and Freedoms which allows for prior restraint.  (i.e. you have freedom of speech until a judge rules that you don't).</p><p>The issue here is that an ISP outside of Canada got a nastygram from the Government of Canada and folded like origami paper rather than saying "We're sorry.  This is not Canada.  Please feel free to seek legal remedy from a court in this jurisdiction and we will comply with that request immediately!"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , you do need to work on that bit in the Charter of Rights and Freedoms which allows for prior restraint .
( i.e. you have freedom of speech until a judge rules that you do n't ) .The issue here is that an ISP outside of Canada got a nastygram from the Government of Canada and folded like origami paper rather than saying " We 're sorry .
This is not Canada .
Please feel free to seek legal remedy from a court in this jurisdiction and we will comply with that request immediately !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, you do need to work on that bit in the Charter of Rights and Freedoms which allows for prior restraint.
(i.e. you have freedom of speech until a judge rules that you don't).The issue here is that an ISP outside of Canada got a nastygram from the Government of Canada and folded like origami paper rather than saying "We're sorry.
This is not Canada.
Please feel free to seek legal remedy from a court in this jurisdiction and we will comply with that request immediately!
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30585790</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30589406</id>
	<title>Zork:"We're better than you".</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262096160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>""According to activist group The Yes Men, the government of Canada has shut down two parody websites criticizing Canada's poor environmental policy. "</p><p>Isn't Canada suppose to be one of the countries better than the US?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" " According to activist group The Yes Men , the government of Canada has shut down two parody websites criticizing Canada 's poor environmental policy .
" Is n't Canada suppose to be one of the countries better than the US ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>""According to activist group The Yes Men, the government of Canada has shut down two parody websites criticizing Canada's poor environmental policy.
"Isn't Canada suppose to be one of the countries better than the US?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30587576</id>
	<title>Re:Hmmm</title>
	<author>ArsenneLupin</author>
	<datestamp>1262085600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I thought Canada was a bastion of civil liberties.</p></div><p>Haha. Coffee-splutter! You owe me a new keyboard.</p><p>
In Canada you can get imprisoned for 3 months without seeing a judge, attorney, your embassy, or even a doctor, and without access to a telephone, simply for criticizing how the Rotary Club runs a Shelterhouse. After these 3 months, when your visa (luckily) runs out, you're shipped back to your home country sans luggage.</p><p>
Now, good luck on getting any redress or compensation. Or even getting your luggage back.</p><p>
No, Canada is not the fairy-tale land of civil liberties that everybody believes.</p><p>
If you're a hippy (especially if you're a hippy...) don't set foot in Canada under any circumstances, if you value your backpack and its contents<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-) Or if you absolutely must, don't offer up any environmental advice that might upset powerful locals. And make sure your visa is not one day longer than needed.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I thought Canada was a bastion of civil liberties.Haha .
Coffee-splutter ! You owe me a new keyboard .
In Canada you can get imprisoned for 3 months without seeing a judge , attorney , your embassy , or even a doctor , and without access to a telephone , simply for criticizing how the Rotary Club runs a Shelterhouse .
After these 3 months , when your visa ( luckily ) runs out , you 're shipped back to your home country sans luggage .
Now , good luck on getting any redress or compensation .
Or even getting your luggage back .
No , Canada is not the fairy-tale land of civil liberties that everybody believes .
If you 're a hippy ( especially if you 're a hippy... ) do n't set foot in Canada under any circumstances , if you value your backpack and its contents : - ) Or if you absolutely must , do n't offer up any environmental advice that might upset powerful locals .
And make sure your visa is not one day longer than needed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I thought Canada was a bastion of civil liberties.Haha.
Coffee-splutter! You owe me a new keyboard.
In Canada you can get imprisoned for 3 months without seeing a judge, attorney, your embassy, or even a doctor, and without access to a telephone, simply for criticizing how the Rotary Club runs a Shelterhouse.
After these 3 months, when your visa (luckily) runs out, you're shipped back to your home country sans luggage.
Now, good luck on getting any redress or compensation.
Or even getting your luggage back.
No, Canada is not the fairy-tale land of civil liberties that everybody believes.
If you're a hippy (especially if you're a hippy...) don't set foot in Canada under any circumstances, if you value your backpack and its contents :-) Or if you absolutely must, don't offer up any environmental advice that might upset powerful locals.
And make sure your visa is not one day longer than needed.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30585756</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30585730</id>
	<title>Works for me</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262077380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Umm, <a href="http://ec-gc.ca/" title="ec-gc.ca" rel="nofollow">http://ec-gc.ca/</a> [ec-gc.ca] is working for me.....</htmltext>
<tokenext>Umm , http : //ec-gc.ca/ [ ec-gc.ca ] is working for me.... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Umm, http://ec-gc.ca/ [ec-gc.ca] is working for me.....</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30585776</id>
	<title>Happy Ending</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262077560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So it does work out in the end? There is bound to be some high profile sites out there that got shutdown and will now switch to another provider that will shows some *sunglasses* backbone?</htmltext>
<tokenext>So it does work out in the end ?
There is bound to be some high profile sites out there that got shutdown and will now switch to another provider that will shows some * sunglasses * backbone ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So it does work out in the end?
There is bound to be some high profile sites out there that got shutdown and will now switch to another provider that will shows some *sunglasses* backbone?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30593646</id>
	<title>BREAKING NEWS!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259856660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This just in! Eco-turds whining on the internet! Who saw THIS coming?!</p><p>It's ok. Once some more data is made up the cult will be right back on track.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This just in !
Eco-turds whining on the internet !
Who saw THIS coming ?
! It 's ok. Once some more data is made up the cult will be right back on track .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This just in!
Eco-turds whining on the internet!
Who saw THIS coming?
!It's ok. Once some more data is made up the cult will be right back on track.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30589520</id>
	<title>Re:Invoking John Gilmore</title>
	<author>dangitman</author>
	<datestamp>1262097180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>When the US and Canada start to see that taking down sites at the drop of a hat is very harmful to their hosting businesses, then maybe they will do something about it.</p></div><p>Invade said countries?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>When the US and Canada start to see that taking down sites at the drop of a hat is very harmful to their hosting businesses , then maybe they will do something about it.Invade said countries ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When the US and Canada start to see that taking down sites at the drop of a hat is very harmful to their hosting businesses, then maybe they will do something about it.Invade said countries?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30585816</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30585838</id>
	<title>Re:in soviet russia web site Censors you!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262077860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Do you mean in Soviet Canada?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do you mean in Soviet Canada ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do you mean in Soviet Canada?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30585722</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30585818</id>
	<title>Conservatives</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262077740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Canada used to be free before the Conservatives</htmltext>
<tokenext>Canada used to be free before the Conservatives</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Canada used to be free before the Conservatives</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30591976</id>
	<title>lessons from SLOVAK POLICE?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259843400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>in Slovakia in 2007 did happen something simmilar, but the disconection was physical<br>http://digg.com/security/Slovak\_Police\_disconnected\_servers\_with\_websites\_and\_emails\_of\_3500\_clients</p><p>and was not because of parody</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>in Slovakia in 2007 did happen something simmilar , but the disconection was physicalhttp : //digg.com/security/Slovak \ _Police \ _disconnected \ _servers \ _with \ _websites \ _and \ _emails \ _of \ _3500 \ _clientsand was not because of parody</tokentext>
<sentencetext>in Slovakia in 2007 did happen something simmilar, but the disconection was physicalhttp://digg.com/security/Slovak\_Police\_disconnected\_servers\_with\_websites\_and\_emails\_of\_3500\_clientsand was not because of parody</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30586498</id>
	<title>Re:Hmmm</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262080980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>could not agree more<nobr> <wbr></nobr>..</p><p>and ironic as steven harper big complaint was that john chretien was running the government out of the prime minister's office<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.. and that the liberals were not forth coming enough with information to the people<nobr> <wbr></nobr>..</p><p>while the current consevative government is completely controlled out of the PM's office<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.. and are probably the most secretive government in canadian history<nobr> <wbr></nobr>..</p><p>but it is just the old basic politrick bait and switch<nobr> <wbr></nobr>..</p><p>and in harper's case we most often dislike in others what we most dislike about our selves<nobr> <wbr></nobr>..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>could not agree more ..and ironic as steven harper big complaint was that john chretien was running the government out of the prime minister 's office .. and that the liberals were not forth coming enough with information to the people ..while the current consevative government is completely controlled out of the PM 's office .. and are probably the most secretive government in canadian history ..but it is just the old basic politrick bait and switch ..and in harper 's case we most often dislike in others what we most dislike about our selves . .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>could not agree more ..and ironic as steven harper big complaint was that john chretien was running the government out of the prime minister's office .. and that the liberals were not forth coming enough with information to the people ..while the current consevative government is completely controlled out of the PM's office .. and are probably the most secretive government in canadian history ..but it is just the old basic politrick bait and switch ..and in harper's case we most often dislike in others what we most dislike about our selves ..</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30586040</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30585752</id>
	<title>hmmm</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262077500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>... this is an odd play for the federation</htmltext>
<tokenext>... this is an odd play for the federation</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... this is an odd play for the federation</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30587646</id>
	<title>Re:Invoking John Gilmore</title>
	<author>ArsenneLupin</author>
	<datestamp>1262085840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The solution is obvious: Move your servers to a more free-speech friendly country.</p></div><p>That's what they did. Serverloft is a German company. But apparently, Germany is not free-speech friendly enough... so now the sites are hosted in Denmark! Hehe...</p><p>
Hmmm, but why doesn't the Canadian government simply lean on the<nobr> <wbr></nobr><tt>.ca</tt> registry, that would be much easier...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The solution is obvious : Move your servers to a more free-speech friendly country.That 's what they did .
Serverloft is a German company .
But apparently , Germany is not free-speech friendly enough... so now the sites are hosted in Denmark !
Hehe.. . Hmmm , but why does n't the Canadian government simply lean on the .ca registry , that would be much easier.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The solution is obvious: Move your servers to a more free-speech friendly country.That's what they did.
Serverloft is a German company.
But apparently, Germany is not free-speech friendly enough... so now the sites are hosted in Denmark!
Hehe...
Hmmm, but why doesn't the Canadian government simply lean on the .ca registry, that would be much easier...
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30585816</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30588544</id>
	<title>Re:Hmmm</title>
	<author>Mashiki</author>
	<datestamp>1262089920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just the obvious question since I live in Canada and have been involved in politics for 15 years, but..where were you when the Liberal party was in power and were actively censoring everyone and everything that could get them removed from office and interfering in official investigations at the federal level.  Including shutting down agencies that do that investigation.</p><p>You really sound like another party hack that's upset that the liberal didn't get a 20yr majority.  Too bad they were fucking the entire country over and using it for their own personal play thing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just the obvious question since I live in Canada and have been involved in politics for 15 years , but..where were you when the Liberal party was in power and were actively censoring everyone and everything that could get them removed from office and interfering in official investigations at the federal level .
Including shutting down agencies that do that investigation.You really sound like another party hack that 's upset that the liberal did n't get a 20yr majority .
Too bad they were fucking the entire country over and using it for their own personal play thing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just the obvious question since I live in Canada and have been involved in politics for 15 years, but..where were you when the Liberal party was in power and were actively censoring everyone and everything that could get them removed from office and interfering in official investigations at the federal level.
Including shutting down agencies that do that investigation.You really sound like another party hack that's upset that the liberal didn't get a 20yr majority.
Too bad they were fucking the entire country over and using it for their own personal play thing.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30588558</id>
	<title>Only do business with ISPs with Warrant Canaries</title>
	<author>enselsharon</author>
	<datestamp>1262089980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I would like to do business with ISPs that have Warrant Canaries:</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warrant\_canary" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warrant\_canary</a> [wikipedia.org]</p><p>Like my offsite backup provider maintains:</p><p><a href="http://www.rsync.net/resources/notices/canary.txt" title="rsync.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.rsync.net/resources/notices/canary.txt</a> [rsync.net]</p><p>However, in absence of this (I realize this is rare) your ISP should at the very least have a stated policy as to how they respond to warrants and "requests".</p><p>Turning off an entire block of IP space because some joker calls you on the phone is absolutely terrible.  If you continue to do business with "serverloft" you deserve whatever you get.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would like to do business with ISPs that have Warrant Canaries : http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warrant \ _canary [ wikipedia.org ] Like my offsite backup provider maintains : http : //www.rsync.net/resources/notices/canary.txt [ rsync.net ] However , in absence of this ( I realize this is rare ) your ISP should at the very least have a stated policy as to how they respond to warrants and " requests " .Turning off an entire block of IP space because some joker calls you on the phone is absolutely terrible .
If you continue to do business with " serverloft " you deserve whatever you get .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would like to do business with ISPs that have Warrant Canaries:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warrant\_canary [wikipedia.org]Like my offsite backup provider maintains:http://www.rsync.net/resources/notices/canary.txt [rsync.net]However, in absence of this (I realize this is rare) your ISP should at the very least have a stated policy as to how they respond to warrants and "requests".Turning off an entire block of IP space because some joker calls you on the phone is absolutely terrible.
If you continue to do business with "serverloft" you deserve whatever you get.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30585846</id>
	<title>Downhill slide in gov'ts?</title>
	<author>ilsaloving</author>
	<datestamp>1262077860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Between USA's Bush, Canada's Harper, and long string of other bozos in other countries governments, it seems like this past decade has been filled with myopic, self-centered, stupid (more than usual, anyway...) politicians.  And it looks like the coming decade won't be any better.</p><p>My problem is that I can't tell if this is a new and disturbing trend, or if it was always this bad but the reporting just got more visible?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Between USA 's Bush , Canada 's Harper , and long string of other bozos in other countries governments , it seems like this past decade has been filled with myopic , self-centered , stupid ( more than usual , anyway... ) politicians .
And it looks like the coming decade wo n't be any better.My problem is that I ca n't tell if this is a new and disturbing trend , or if it was always this bad but the reporting just got more visible ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Between USA's Bush, Canada's Harper, and long string of other bozos in other countries governments, it seems like this past decade has been filled with myopic, self-centered, stupid (more than usual, anyway...) politicians.
And it looks like the coming decade won't be any better.My problem is that I can't tell if this is a new and disturbing trend, or if it was always this bad but the reporting just got more visible?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30589920</id>
	<title>Re:Invoking John Gilmore</title>
	<author>macshit</author>
	<datestamp>1262100780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><blockquote><div><p>Move your servers to a more free-speech friendly country.</p></div></blockquote><p>

Yes... except that we are quickly running out of free-speech friendly countries (Canada was one of the most free).</p></div><p>Eh?!  Canada is a generally pretty liberal place, but they seem to be a bit trigger-happy when it comes to censorship -- I've seen an awful lot of news stories like this one over the years (not just internet, bookstores, etc too)....
</p><p>
[usually for reasons of "obscenity" or "hate crime", e.g. see <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship\_in\_Canada" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship\_in\_Canada</a> [wikipedia.org] ]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Move your servers to a more free-speech friendly country .
Yes... except that we are quickly running out of free-speech friendly countries ( Canada was one of the most free ) .Eh ? !
Canada is a generally pretty liberal place , but they seem to be a bit trigger-happy when it comes to censorship -- I 've seen an awful lot of news stories like this one over the years ( not just internet , bookstores , etc too ) ... . [ usually for reasons of " obscenity " or " hate crime " , e.g .
see http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship \ _in \ _Canada [ wikipedia.org ] ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Move your servers to a more free-speech friendly country.
Yes... except that we are quickly running out of free-speech friendly countries (Canada was one of the most free).Eh?!
Canada is a generally pretty liberal place, but they seem to be a bit trigger-happy when it comes to censorship -- I've seen an awful lot of news stories like this one over the years (not just internet, bookstores, etc too)....

[usually for reasons of "obscenity" or "hate crime", e.g.
see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship\_in\_Canada [wikipedia.org] ]
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30586660</id>
	<title>Re:Works for me</title>
	<author>JWSmythe</author>
	<datestamp>1262081820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; I can't believe anyone is believing a press release done by a group who intentionally does bogus press releases and web sites.   No one else sees the problem with this??</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>    I ca n't believe anyone is believing a press release done by a group who intentionally does bogus press releases and web sites .
No one else sees the problem with this ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
    I can't believe anyone is believing a press release done by a group who intentionally does bogus press releases and web sites.
No one else sees the problem with this?
?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_29_1921257.30586860</id>
	<title>I've Said It Before</title>
	<author>b4upoo</author>
	<datestamp>1262082840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>        The government of Canada has obviously gone stark raving mad. This disease appears to be an imitation of the Reagen-Bush mentality that pretty much destroyed the US.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The government of Canada has obviously gone stark raving mad .
This disease appears to be an imitation of the Reagen-Bush mentality that pretty much destroyed the US .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>        The government of Canada has obviously gone stark raving mad.
This disease appears to be an imitation of the Reagen-Bush mentality that pretty much destroyed the US.</sentencetext>
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