<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_12_28_1453220</id>
	<title>The Speculative Pre-History of the iPhone</title>
	<author>CmdrTaco</author>
	<datestamp>1262022060000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>harrymcc writes <i>"The blogosphere is abuzz with rumors about 'iSlate,' Apple's supposed upcoming tablet. It's constructive to <a href="http://technologizer.com/2009/12/28/iphone-rumors/">look back at coverage</a> of the first iPhone in the months before it was announced. A high percentage of what was reported turned out to be hooey &mdash; as I remembered as I reviewed stories that said the iPhone would have a click wheel, a slide-out keyboard, and two batteries, and would run on an Apple-branded wireless network. I'm guessing that much of what we 'know' about iSlate is similarly off-base."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>harrymcc writes " The blogosphere is abuzz with rumors about 'iSlate, ' Apple 's supposed upcoming tablet .
It 's constructive to look back at coverage of the first iPhone in the months before it was announced .
A high percentage of what was reported turned out to be hooey    as I remembered as I reviewed stories that said the iPhone would have a click wheel , a slide-out keyboard , and two batteries , and would run on an Apple-branded wireless network .
I 'm guessing that much of what we 'know ' about iSlate is similarly off-base .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>harrymcc writes "The blogosphere is abuzz with rumors about 'iSlate,' Apple's supposed upcoming tablet.
It's constructive to look back at coverage of the first iPhone in the months before it was announced.
A high percentage of what was reported turned out to be hooey — as I remembered as I reviewed stories that said the iPhone would have a click wheel, a slide-out keyboard, and two batteries, and would run on an Apple-branded wireless network.
I'm guessing that much of what we 'know' about iSlate is similarly off-base.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30576916</id>
	<title>I thought Apple had already release a tablet</title>
	<author>Razzious</author>
	<datestamp>1262002140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It was affectionately called the Newton.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It was affectionately called the Newton .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It was affectionately called the Newton.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30578512</id>
	<title>Pixel Qi</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262014620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't care what Apple does - I refuse to support their ultra-proprietary orthodoxy.  The important thing that will happen in 2010 has little to do with Apple, and everything to do with Pixel Qi.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't care what Apple does - I refuse to support their ultra-proprietary orthodoxy .
The important thing that will happen in 2010 has little to do with Apple , and everything to do with Pixel Qi .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't care what Apple does - I refuse to support their ultra-proprietary orthodoxy.
The important thing that will happen in 2010 has little to do with Apple, and everything to do with Pixel Qi.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30574874</id>
	<title>Re:Wait?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262033940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And yet you felt compelled to comment?  Stunning absolutely stunning.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And yet you felt compelled to comment ?
Stunning absolutely stunning .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And yet you felt compelled to comment?
Stunning absolutely stunning.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30579060</id>
	<title>Re:Wait?</title>
	<author>E IS mC(Square)</author>
	<datestamp>1262020620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>A bragging Apple fanboi! What a novelty.
<br> <br>
Let's see then.
<br> <br>
I can afford many of them. But I don't want to sell my soul to a company known for it's lockdowns. So, why don't you just shut up about how much you are earning?
<br> <br>
I have got an old Dell box with 1.5TB (1TB +<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.5TB). It runs unlimited Ubuntu server which serves all the media to all other computers at my home (4 of them - do you want to know if I can afford them?). It is also connected to my 100 inch HD projector. AFAIK, every Tom, Dick and Herry are selling such a system.
<br> <br>
And I did have a nice holiday. Your post just made it great.</htmltext>
<tokenext>A bragging Apple fanboi !
What a novelty .
Let 's see then .
I can afford many of them .
But I do n't want to sell my soul to a company known for it 's lockdowns .
So , why do n't you just shut up about how much you are earning ?
I have got an old Dell box with 1.5TB ( 1TB + .5TB ) .
It runs unlimited Ubuntu server which serves all the media to all other computers at my home ( 4 of them - do you want to know if I can afford them ? ) .
It is also connected to my 100 inch HD projector .
AFAIK , every Tom , Dick and Herry are selling such a system .
And I did have a nice holiday .
Your post just made it great .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A bragging Apple fanboi!
What a novelty.
Let's see then.
I can afford many of them.
But I don't want to sell my soul to a company known for it's lockdowns.
So, why don't you just shut up about how much you are earning?
I have got an old Dell box with 1.5TB (1TB + .5TB).
It runs unlimited Ubuntu server which serves all the media to all other computers at my home (4 of them - do you want to know if I can afford them?).
It is also connected to my 100 inch HD projector.
AFAIK, every Tom, Dick and Herry are selling such a system.
And I did have a nice holiday.
Your post just made it great.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30574544</id>
	<title>Re:iSlate name</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262032080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I read in a newspaper made from paper that the device could be called "ipad" which made me laugh because of <a href="http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/mispronouncing.png" title="xkcd.com" rel="nofollow">this</a> [xkcd.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I read in a newspaper made from paper that the device could be called " ipad " which made me laugh because of this [ xkcd.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I read in a newspaper made from paper that the device could be called "ipad" which made me laugh because of this [xkcd.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30574644</id>
	<title>Appleberry? Appleberry?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262032620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Where have all the appleberries gone?  I'm going to make pie.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Where have all the appleberries gone ?
I 'm going to make pie .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Where have all the appleberries gone?
I'm going to make pie.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30573372</id>
	<title>How does Apple use rumors?</title>
	<author>astrashe</author>
	<datestamp>1262026380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How much do we know about the ways in which Apple uses rumors to gin up interest in new products?</p><p>It seems likely to me that they leak stuff to keep us all talking, but I don't have any proof of that.  It also seems likely to me that if they're going to be leaking stuff, they might not always leak accurate information.</p><p>There was a story awhile back that quoted Yoko Ono as saying that the Beatles were coming to iTunes.  Does anyone ever bother to dig into those stories to see what happened?  Did Yoko actually say that?  Was there a deal that fell apart?  Did the reporter just make it up?  If so, why?  Was Apple trying to get us talking?</p><p>Despite all of my suspicions about leaks and promotion, I'm really excited about the tablet.  It will be really interesting to see what they do with the interface.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How much do we know about the ways in which Apple uses rumors to gin up interest in new products ? It seems likely to me that they leak stuff to keep us all talking , but I do n't have any proof of that .
It also seems likely to me that if they 're going to be leaking stuff , they might not always leak accurate information.There was a story awhile back that quoted Yoko Ono as saying that the Beatles were coming to iTunes .
Does anyone ever bother to dig into those stories to see what happened ?
Did Yoko actually say that ?
Was there a deal that fell apart ?
Did the reporter just make it up ?
If so , why ?
Was Apple trying to get us talking ? Despite all of my suspicions about leaks and promotion , I 'm really excited about the tablet .
It will be really interesting to see what they do with the interface .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How much do we know about the ways in which Apple uses rumors to gin up interest in new products?It seems likely to me that they leak stuff to keep us all talking, but I don't have any proof of that.
It also seems likely to me that if they're going to be leaking stuff, they might not always leak accurate information.There was a story awhile back that quoted Yoko Ono as saying that the Beatles were coming to iTunes.
Does anyone ever bother to dig into those stories to see what happened?
Did Yoko actually say that?
Was there a deal that fell apart?
Did the reporter just make it up?
If so, why?
Was Apple trying to get us talking?Despite all of my suspicions about leaks and promotion, I'm really excited about the tablet.
It will be really interesting to see what they do with the interface.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30573786</id>
	<title>Re:How does Apple use rumors?</title>
	<author>girlintraining</author>
	<datestamp>1262028420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>How much do we know about the ways in which Apple uses rumors to gin up interest in new products?</p></div><p>I thought it was pretty clear -- it's a cheap way to gauge interest and reactions to a product <i>before</i> it's release. People weren't excited about two batteries in the iPhone... whoosh, it doesn't get that. People get excited about wifi blamo, it makes it into the final product. It saves millions in market research, focus groups, etc. Oh yeah, and everybody talking about a product, getting all excited, even though they haven't the foggiest what it'll be -- that's free word of mouth press. That's the kind of publicity that Google has paid tens of millions for with Droid -- and people still only shrug at it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>How much do we know about the ways in which Apple uses rumors to gin up interest in new products ? I thought it was pretty clear -- it 's a cheap way to gauge interest and reactions to a product before it 's release .
People were n't excited about two batteries in the iPhone... whoosh , it does n't get that .
People get excited about wifi blamo , it makes it into the final product .
It saves millions in market research , focus groups , etc .
Oh yeah , and everybody talking about a product , getting all excited , even though they have n't the foggiest what it 'll be -- that 's free word of mouth press .
That 's the kind of publicity that Google has paid tens of millions for with Droid -- and people still only shrug at it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How much do we know about the ways in which Apple uses rumors to gin up interest in new products?I thought it was pretty clear -- it's a cheap way to gauge interest and reactions to a product before it's release.
People weren't excited about two batteries in the iPhone... whoosh, it doesn't get that.
People get excited about wifi blamo, it makes it into the final product.
It saves millions in market research, focus groups, etc.
Oh yeah, and everybody talking about a product, getting all excited, even though they haven't the foggiest what it'll be -- that's free word of mouth press.
That's the kind of publicity that Google has paid tens of millions for with Droid -- and people still only shrug at it.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30574300</id>
	<title>Re:iSlate name</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262030940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Since Apple doesn't announce a release date for new products it would be difficult for the iSlate to be late. More than any other cmpqny Apple has performed very well with timing the announcement and immediate availablity of a product. The biggest critic has always been shortage due to playing safe on estimates of demand. Therefore I'd not expect to see Apple name something iSavailable but iSlate seems reasonable enough.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Since Apple does n't announce a release date for new products it would be difficult for the iSlate to be late .
More than any other cmpqny Apple has performed very well with timing the announcement and immediate availablity of a product .
The biggest critic has always been shortage due to playing safe on estimates of demand .
Therefore I 'd not expect to see Apple name something iSavailable but iSlate seems reasonable enough .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since Apple doesn't announce a release date for new products it would be difficult for the iSlate to be late.
More than any other cmpqny Apple has performed very well with timing the announcement and immediate availablity of a product.
The biggest critic has always been shortage due to playing safe on estimates of demand.
Therefore I'd not expect to see Apple name something iSavailable but iSlate seems reasonable enough.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30573758</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30575246</id>
	<title>Re:Speculation on speculation?</title>
	<author>CharlyFoxtrot</author>
	<datestamp>1261992540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Looking at those mockups reminded me just how good the iphone looked at the time. Instant classic design. It sounds like the punchline to a bad Apple joke but it really did take Apple to design a phone with as few buttons on it as the iPhone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Looking at those mockups reminded me just how good the iphone looked at the time .
Instant classic design .
It sounds like the punchline to a bad Apple joke but it really did take Apple to design a phone with as few buttons on it as the iPhone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Looking at those mockups reminded me just how good the iphone looked at the time.
Instant classic design.
It sounds like the punchline to a bad Apple joke but it really did take Apple to design a phone with as few buttons on it as the iPhone.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30574528</id>
	<title>Re:iSlate name</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262032020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I agree. Perhaps they could change it to iStale.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree .
Perhaps they could change it to iStale .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree.
Perhaps they could change it to iStale.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30574970</id>
	<title>The Big Picture</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261991280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For a site that is supposedly frequented by self-described geeks, you guys are missing the (obvious) big picture. Assuming the new, rumored Apple device is real, it's importance will be that it will stand alone. Apple's latest successes are in the consumer electronics category. These categories are a far cry from computers, both in the amount of knowledge, dedication (yes, even now) required to operate and the financial rewards for the manufacturer. The iPod and the iPhone both require computers (iTunes) to acquire new software, and, even though iTunes is available on the Touch and the iPhone, you still are required to tether it to your computer occasionally. The new device (I predict) will stand alone. It will not require a companion computer. In this sense, it will create a new (even larger, I predict) category of users: 1) Mac owners with an iPod/iPhone, 2) PC owners with an iPod/iPhone and 3) Owners of this new device - no previous/current computer ownership required.</p><p>This purchase of this device will be marketed similar to the purchase decision of a TV, or a DVD player - not at all intimidating. Of course the beauty of it all is that it will (in many situations) replace your TV, DVD player, books, game console, computer, iPod and audio book player (whatever device you currently use for that).</p><p>At first the cost will be higher than most will spend, but soon, the price will drop to compete with the higher end netbooks, kindles, e-readers, etc.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For a site that is supposedly frequented by self-described geeks , you guys are missing the ( obvious ) big picture .
Assuming the new , rumored Apple device is real , it 's importance will be that it will stand alone .
Apple 's latest successes are in the consumer electronics category .
These categories are a far cry from computers , both in the amount of knowledge , dedication ( yes , even now ) required to operate and the financial rewards for the manufacturer .
The iPod and the iPhone both require computers ( iTunes ) to acquire new software , and , even though iTunes is available on the Touch and the iPhone , you still are required to tether it to your computer occasionally .
The new device ( I predict ) will stand alone .
It will not require a companion computer .
In this sense , it will create a new ( even larger , I predict ) category of users : 1 ) Mac owners with an iPod/iPhone , 2 ) PC owners with an iPod/iPhone and 3 ) Owners of this new device - no previous/current computer ownership required.This purchase of this device will be marketed similar to the purchase decision of a TV , or a DVD player - not at all intimidating .
Of course the beauty of it all is that it will ( in many situations ) replace your TV , DVD player , books , game console , computer , iPod and audio book player ( whatever device you currently use for that ) .At first the cost will be higher than most will spend , but soon , the price will drop to compete with the higher end netbooks , kindles , e-readers , etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For a site that is supposedly frequented by self-described geeks, you guys are missing the (obvious) big picture.
Assuming the new, rumored Apple device is real, it's importance will be that it will stand alone.
Apple's latest successes are in the consumer electronics category.
These categories are a far cry from computers, both in the amount of knowledge, dedication (yes, even now) required to operate and the financial rewards for the manufacturer.
The iPod and the iPhone both require computers (iTunes) to acquire new software, and, even though iTunes is available on the Touch and the iPhone, you still are required to tether it to your computer occasionally.
The new device (I predict) will stand alone.
It will not require a companion computer.
In this sense, it will create a new (even larger, I predict) category of users: 1) Mac owners with an iPod/iPhone, 2) PC owners with an iPod/iPhone and 3) Owners of this new device - no previous/current computer ownership required.This purchase of this device will be marketed similar to the purchase decision of a TV, or a DVD player - not at all intimidating.
Of course the beauty of it all is that it will (in many situations) replace your TV, DVD player, books, game console, computer, iPod and audio book player (whatever device you currently use for that).At first the cost will be higher than most will spend, but soon, the price will drop to compete with the higher end netbooks, kindles, e-readers, etc.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30575456</id>
	<title>So, $50?</title>
	<author>weston</author>
	<datestamp>1261993740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>5. An affordable, low price-point that even Apple's harshest critics cannot bring themselves to complain about</i></p><p>Oh, that's where you're wrong. Unless the price point is under $50.</p><p>The way this works is that the Apple critic picks some set of features that phone X has had for months if not years. If the iPhone doesn't have all of those features at the market price for phone X or less, it's time to start talking about the deceit of shiny design and how Apple is actually a fashion company.</p><p>Given that the Nokia 6820 had features 1-4 (plus tethering and additional bluetooth magic) and now goes for under $50, Apple's harshest critics will only be happy with that price point.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>5 .
An affordable , low price-point that even Apple 's harshest critics can not bring themselves to complain aboutOh , that 's where you 're wrong .
Unless the price point is under $ 50.The way this works is that the Apple critic picks some set of features that phone X has had for months if not years .
If the iPhone does n't have all of those features at the market price for phone X or less , it 's time to start talking about the deceit of shiny design and how Apple is actually a fashion company.Given that the Nokia 6820 had features 1-4 ( plus tethering and additional bluetooth magic ) and now goes for under $ 50 , Apple 's harshest critics will only be happy with that price point .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>5.
An affordable, low price-point that even Apple's harshest critics cannot bring themselves to complain aboutOh, that's where you're wrong.
Unless the price point is under $50.The way this works is that the Apple critic picks some set of features that phone X has had for months if not years.
If the iPhone doesn't have all of those features at the market price for phone X or less, it's time to start talking about the deceit of shiny design and how Apple is actually a fashion company.Given that the Nokia 6820 had features 1-4 (plus tethering and additional bluetooth magic) and now goes for under $50, Apple's harshest critics will only be happy with that price point.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30574396</id>
	<title>Re:Of course the anti-Apple fanbois are out in for</title>
	<author>leamanc</author>
	<datestamp>1262031300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just an OT question here: Since you are a Linux user, how do you sync, charge and update your iPhone?  iTunes via Wine?  Or a full-fledged VM solution like VMWare?  I have several Macs along with my Linux boxen, and I've tinkered with using my iPhone with Linux, but it's just plain easier to plug it into a Mac and not worry about the rather troublesome iTunes installation via Wine.  Or is there some solution available to jailbroken iPhones that allows syncing without iTunes?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just an OT question here : Since you are a Linux user , how do you sync , charge and update your iPhone ?
iTunes via Wine ?
Or a full-fledged VM solution like VMWare ?
I have several Macs along with my Linux boxen , and I 've tinkered with using my iPhone with Linux , but it 's just plain easier to plug it into a Mac and not worry about the rather troublesome iTunes installation via Wine .
Or is there some solution available to jailbroken iPhones that allows syncing without iTunes ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just an OT question here: Since you are a Linux user, how do you sync, charge and update your iPhone?
iTunes via Wine?
Or a full-fledged VM solution like VMWare?
I have several Macs along with my Linux boxen, and I've tinkered with using my iPhone with Linux, but it's just plain easier to plug it into a Mac and not worry about the rather troublesome iTunes installation via Wine.
Or is there some solution available to jailbroken iPhones that allows syncing without iTunes?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30573640</id>
	<title>not constructive, just reasonable...also a waste.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262027700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The iphone was pretty much the beginning of a new paradigm.  The tablet device is just a logical progression from the iphone to fill the gap between the iphone and macbooks.  It's not difficult to speculate and rumorize something like this with relative accuracy compared to the iPhone hooey.  Also, it's worthwhile to have active chatter about these kinds of rumored features.  If there's something that sucks...like excessive proprietary influence or lacking features, it's good to get the explore benefits and drawbacks.  Designers and engineers don't live in bubbles.  They hear you when you speculate and bitch and moan.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The iphone was pretty much the beginning of a new paradigm .
The tablet device is just a logical progression from the iphone to fill the gap between the iphone and macbooks .
It 's not difficult to speculate and rumorize something like this with relative accuracy compared to the iPhone hooey .
Also , it 's worthwhile to have active chatter about these kinds of rumored features .
If there 's something that sucks...like excessive proprietary influence or lacking features , it 's good to get the explore benefits and drawbacks .
Designers and engineers do n't live in bubbles .
They hear you when you speculate and bitch and moan .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The iphone was pretty much the beginning of a new paradigm.
The tablet device is just a logical progression from the iphone to fill the gap between the iphone and macbooks.
It's not difficult to speculate and rumorize something like this with relative accuracy compared to the iPhone hooey.
Also, it's worthwhile to have active chatter about these kinds of rumored features.
If there's something that sucks...like excessive proprietary influence or lacking features, it's good to get the explore benefits and drawbacks.
Designers and engineers don't live in bubbles.
They hear you when you speculate and bitch and moan.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30583176</id>
	<title>Re:iSlate name</title>
	<author>petronivs</author>
	<datestamp>1262108640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Regardless of any functionality this <i>phone</i> will have, it only takes a very short time to come up with the "<i>if-one</i>" pronunciation of <i>iPhone</i>. I can't imagine that Jobs would let anything that could be turned into a such an obvious mockery of Apple be released. I have no idea what the <i>phone</i> will be called, but I am betting heavily against "<i>iPhone</i>" - and yes I have been following all the reports on companies being purchased etc.</p></div><p>There, fixed it for you.  We are as dedicated to exploring ways in which product names can be twisted as we were about making fun of our classmates' names back in kindergarten.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Regardless of any functionality this phone will have , it only takes a very short time to come up with the " if-one " pronunciation of iPhone .
I ca n't imagine that Jobs would let anything that could be turned into a such an obvious mockery of Apple be released .
I have no idea what the phone will be called , but I am betting heavily against " iPhone " - and yes I have been following all the reports on companies being purchased etc.There , fixed it for you .
We are as dedicated to exploring ways in which product names can be twisted as we were about making fun of our classmates ' names back in kindergarten .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Regardless of any functionality this phone will have, it only takes a very short time to come up with the "if-one" pronunciation of iPhone.
I can't imagine that Jobs would let anything that could be turned into a such an obvious mockery of Apple be released.
I have no idea what the phone will be called, but I am betting heavily against "iPhone" - and yes I have been following all the reports on companies being purchased etc.There, fixed it for you.
We are as dedicated to exploring ways in which product names can be twisted as we were about making fun of our classmates' names back in kindergarten.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30573430</id>
	<title>That may be true, but</title>
	<author>dilemmachine</author>
	<datestamp>1262026800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>It will still be an amazing device nonetheless.  Not just because of what it can do, but because of the thousands of awesome apps that can run on it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It will still be an amazing device nonetheless .
Not just because of what it can do , but because of the thousands of awesome apps that can run on it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It will still be an amazing device nonetheless.
Not just because of what it can do, but because of the thousands of awesome apps that can run on it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30573458</id>
	<title>I hear...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262026920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I hear they will open an Apple Bookstore.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I hear they will open an Apple Bookstore .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hear they will open an Apple Bookstore.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30574592</id>
	<title>Re:You got some right</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262032320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>All of us here at slashdot would like to commend you on your efforts towards pretending you actually do have a sense of humor.  While you're not all the way there yet, you've shown marked improvement in your awareness that sarcasm and humor exist.  Your effort is tremendous!</p><p>However, your attempt was marred by the blatant apple fanboyism in your post, which gives away the fact that you actually are a robot.  Once you learn to recognize and execute the proper response to the post you replied to, your personality version will be a lot closer to full-scale production.</p><p>I'll give you a slight hint in that it's in the vein of nobody caring about the iphone compared to its competitors after their iphone battery has died or when they had the copy and paste functionality of a mid-1990s linux system.  Not caring indicates your post might have been completely unnecessary!  Start from there, and keep working.</p><p>Good job!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>All of us here at slashdot would like to commend you on your efforts towards pretending you actually do have a sense of humor .
While you 're not all the way there yet , you 've shown marked improvement in your awareness that sarcasm and humor exist .
Your effort is tremendous ! However , your attempt was marred by the blatant apple fanboyism in your post , which gives away the fact that you actually are a robot .
Once you learn to recognize and execute the proper response to the post you replied to , your personality version will be a lot closer to full-scale production.I 'll give you a slight hint in that it 's in the vein of nobody caring about the iphone compared to its competitors after their iphone battery has died or when they had the copy and paste functionality of a mid-1990s linux system .
Not caring indicates your post might have been completely unnecessary !
Start from there , and keep working.Good job !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All of us here at slashdot would like to commend you on your efforts towards pretending you actually do have a sense of humor.
While you're not all the way there yet, you've shown marked improvement in your awareness that sarcasm and humor exist.
Your effort is tremendous!However, your attempt was marred by the blatant apple fanboyism in your post, which gives away the fact that you actually are a robot.
Once you learn to recognize and execute the proper response to the post you replied to, your personality version will be a lot closer to full-scale production.I'll give you a slight hint in that it's in the vein of nobody caring about the iphone compared to its competitors after their iphone battery has died or when they had the copy and paste functionality of a mid-1990s linux system.
Not caring indicates your post might have been completely unnecessary!
Start from there, and keep working.Good job!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30574056</id>
	<title>You got some right</title>
	<author>SuperKendall</author>
	<datestamp>1262029800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>1. Removable battery</i></p><p>Ha Ha.  Of course the battery will be sealed, it gives you longer battery life.</p><p><i>2. Free upload of unsigned software and drivers, not locking the user in to any sort of "app mall."</i></p><p>50/50</p><p><i>3. Full physical keyboard since everyone knows software keyboards are annoying</i></p><p>They are on full size devices.  On smaller devices the physical keyboards are more annoying.  Or why does the Google Phone not have a physical keyboard...</p><p>A larger slate size device will have a detachable keyboard.</p><p><i>4. Full and open support for third party hardware</i></p><p>Yep, USB/bluetooth/network.  Not open enough for you?</p><p><i>5. An affordable, low price-point that even Apple's harshest critics cannot bring themselves to complain about</i></p><p>Ha Ha.</p><p><i>6. Copy and paste functionality at launch</i></p><p>Oh hilarious.  Probably mutli-touch too, which Android couldn't bother with at launch.  Which was more important to have out of the gate?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 .
Removable batteryHa Ha .
Of course the battery will be sealed , it gives you longer battery life.2 .
Free upload of unsigned software and drivers , not locking the user in to any sort of " app mall. " 50/503 .
Full physical keyboard since everyone knows software keyboards are annoyingThey are on full size devices .
On smaller devices the physical keyboards are more annoying .
Or why does the Google Phone not have a physical keyboard...A larger slate size device will have a detachable keyboard.4 .
Full and open support for third party hardwareYep , USB/bluetooth/network .
Not open enough for you ? 5 .
An affordable , low price-point that even Apple 's harshest critics can not bring themselves to complain aboutHa Ha.6 .
Copy and paste functionality at launchOh hilarious .
Probably mutli-touch too , which Android could n't bother with at launch .
Which was more important to have out of the gate ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1.
Removable batteryHa Ha.
Of course the battery will be sealed, it gives you longer battery life.2.
Free upload of unsigned software and drivers, not locking the user in to any sort of "app mall."50/503.
Full physical keyboard since everyone knows software keyboards are annoyingThey are on full size devices.
On smaller devices the physical keyboards are more annoying.
Or why does the Google Phone not have a physical keyboard...A larger slate size device will have a detachable keyboard.4.
Full and open support for third party hardwareYep, USB/bluetooth/network.
Not open enough for you?5.
An affordable, low price-point that even Apple's harshest critics cannot bring themselves to complain aboutHa Ha.6.
Copy and paste functionality at launchOh hilarious.
Probably mutli-touch too, which Android couldn't bother with at launch.
Which was more important to have out of the gate?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30574546</id>
	<title>Re:How does Apple use rumors?</title>
	<author>ceoyoyo</author>
	<datestamp>1262032080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Apple certainly has some kind of control.  There are always lots of Apple product announcement rumours, including ones for real future products years in advance, but the rumours don't grow to fever pitch until there's ACTUALLY a product announcement in the near future.  And those rumours are always basically on target, with the speculation limited to details.</p><p>It was obvious before the iPhone came out that Apple was going to announce a phone of some kind.  Naturally the speculators didn't get the design right (otherwise Apple could just hire them instead of actual designers and engineers) but the phone part was dead on.</p><p>At the end of January Apple will release something, almost certainly some kind of touch interface tablet/slate/big iphone type device.  As for the details?  Everything we've heard is almost certainly substantially inaccurate.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apple certainly has some kind of control .
There are always lots of Apple product announcement rumours , including ones for real future products years in advance , but the rumours do n't grow to fever pitch until there 's ACTUALLY a product announcement in the near future .
And those rumours are always basically on target , with the speculation limited to details.It was obvious before the iPhone came out that Apple was going to announce a phone of some kind .
Naturally the speculators did n't get the design right ( otherwise Apple could just hire them instead of actual designers and engineers ) but the phone part was dead on.At the end of January Apple will release something , almost certainly some kind of touch interface tablet/slate/big iphone type device .
As for the details ?
Everything we 've heard is almost certainly substantially inaccurate .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apple certainly has some kind of control.
There are always lots of Apple product announcement rumours, including ones for real future products years in advance, but the rumours don't grow to fever pitch until there's ACTUALLY a product announcement in the near future.
And those rumours are always basically on target, with the speculation limited to details.It was obvious before the iPhone came out that Apple was going to announce a phone of some kind.
Naturally the speculators didn't get the design right (otherwise Apple could just hire them instead of actual designers and engineers) but the phone part was dead on.At the end of January Apple will release something, almost certainly some kind of touch interface tablet/slate/big iphone type device.
As for the details?
Everything we've heard is almost certainly substantially inaccurate.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30578112</id>
	<title>You may be waiting a while</title>
	<author>syousef</author>
	<datestamp>1262011560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>After all the rumoured name of the product: is-Late</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>After all the rumoured name of the product : is-Late</tokentext>
<sentencetext>After all the rumoured name of the product: is-Late</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30574890</id>
	<title>Re:iSlate name</title>
	<author>jollyreaper</author>
	<datestamp>1261990860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Regardless of any functionality this tablet will have, it only takes a very short time to come up with the "is-late" pronunciation of iSlate. I can't imagine that Jobs would let anything that could be turned into a such an obvious mockery of Apple be released. I have no idea what the table will be called, but I am betting heavily against "iSlate" - and yes I have been following all the reports on companies being purchased etc.</p></div><p>Oh, and I suppose you're nixing iSoar for similar reasons. Spoilsport.</p><p>In keeping with the i-name, iPad or iTab, iTablet, or something similar would make sense. iRaq and iRan were already used by Mad TV.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Regardless of any functionality this tablet will have , it only takes a very short time to come up with the " is-late " pronunciation of iSlate .
I ca n't imagine that Jobs would let anything that could be turned into a such an obvious mockery of Apple be released .
I have no idea what the table will be called , but I am betting heavily against " iSlate " - and yes I have been following all the reports on companies being purchased etc.Oh , and I suppose you 're nixing iSoar for similar reasons .
Spoilsport.In keeping with the i-name , iPad or iTab , iTablet , or something similar would make sense .
iRaq and iRan were already used by Mad TV .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Regardless of any functionality this tablet will have, it only takes a very short time to come up with the "is-late" pronunciation of iSlate.
I can't imagine that Jobs would let anything that could be turned into a such an obvious mockery of Apple be released.
I have no idea what the table will be called, but I am betting heavily against "iSlate" - and yes I have been following all the reports on companies being purchased etc.Oh, and I suppose you're nixing iSoar for similar reasons.
Spoilsport.In keeping with the i-name, iPad or iTab, iTablet, or something similar would make sense.
iRaq and iRan were already used by Mad TV.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30578934</id>
	<title>Re:Wait?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262019240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Orgy?  They're fanbois.  Circle jerk is more like it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Orgy ?
They 're fanbois .
Circle jerk is more like it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Orgy?
They're fanbois.
Circle jerk is more like it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30574030</id>
	<title>You mean that...</title>
	<author>denzacar</author>
	<datestamp>1262029680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...there are rumors that they have purchased another vowel?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...there are rumors that they have purchased another vowel ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...there are rumors that they have purchased another vowel?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30573276</id>
	<title>What we *will* know is ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262026020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Apple Fanbois will wet themselves, no matter how lousy a product it is.  That's a given.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apple Fanbois will wet themselves , no matter how lousy a product it is .
That 's a given .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apple Fanbois will wet themselves, no matter how lousy a product it is.
That's a given.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30573462</id>
	<title>"Blogosphere?"</title>
	<author>bonch</author>
	<datestamp>1262026920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Blogosphere?"  Is this 2004?</p><p>Anyway, the so-called iSlate is probably a real product, but it might just be a larger version of the iPhone.  Like every Apple release, the rumor hype will excite people to impossibly high standards, and when the actual product comes out, forums will be filled with sarcastic bitching, even though all of them will buy it anyway.  Also, someone will post a link to the Apple rumor cycle.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Blogosphere ?
" Is this 2004 ? Anyway , the so-called iSlate is probably a real product , but it might just be a larger version of the iPhone .
Like every Apple release , the rumor hype will excite people to impossibly high standards , and when the actual product comes out , forums will be filled with sarcastic bitching , even though all of them will buy it anyway .
Also , someone will post a link to the Apple rumor cycle .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Blogosphere?
"  Is this 2004?Anyway, the so-called iSlate is probably a real product, but it might just be a larger version of the iPhone.
Like every Apple release, the rumor hype will excite people to impossibly high standards, and when the actual product comes out, forums will be filled with sarcastic bitching, even though all of them will buy it anyway.
Also, someone will post a link to the Apple rumor cycle.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30573758</id>
	<title>iSlate name</title>
	<author>OzPeter</author>
	<datestamp>1262028240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Regardless of any functionality this tablet will have, it only takes a very short time to come up with the "is-late" pronunciation of iSlate.   I can't imagine that Jobs would let anything that could be turned into a such an obvious mockery of Apple be released. I have no idea what the table will be called, but I am betting heavily against "iSlate" - and yes I have been following all the reports on companies being purchased etc.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Regardless of any functionality this tablet will have , it only takes a very short time to come up with the " is-late " pronunciation of iSlate .
I ca n't imagine that Jobs would let anything that could be turned into a such an obvious mockery of Apple be released .
I have no idea what the table will be called , but I am betting heavily against " iSlate " - and yes I have been following all the reports on companies being purchased etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Regardless of any functionality this tablet will have, it only takes a very short time to come up with the "is-late" pronunciation of iSlate.
I can't imagine that Jobs would let anything that could be turned into a such an obvious mockery of Apple be released.
I have no idea what the table will be called, but I am betting heavily against "iSlate" - and yes I have been following all the reports on companies being purchased etc.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30573748</id>
	<title>iLaunch</title>
	<author>Princeofcups</author>
	<datestamp>1262028240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Obligatory Onion article.</p><p><a href="http://www.theonion.com/content/news/apple\_unveils\_new\_product" title="theonion.com">http://www.theonion.com/content/news/apple\_unveils\_new\_product</a> [theonion.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Obligatory Onion article.http : //www.theonion.com/content/news/apple \ _unveils \ _new \ _product [ theonion.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Obligatory Onion article.http://www.theonion.com/content/news/apple\_unveils\_new\_product [theonion.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30578334</id>
	<title>Shouldn't we ask why OTHERS are failing?</title>
	<author>kklein</author>
	<datestamp>1262013240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Um. The iPhone is the only phone I've ever had that I didn't want to grind into the pavement with my heel. It's the only phone that I haven't actively hated. It's the only phone that was honest about what it could do well and what it couldn't do well. It is a great phone. A great phone.

</p><p>The iPod was the only MP3 player I've ever had that wasn't a total piece of cheapo plastic Chinese junk. For some reason Slashdot people seem to want to drag folders to their MP3 player, which is fine for them, I guess, but I, like most people, really like having a nice piece of software that facilitates syncing what I want where. This is especially important when I have multiple family members going off of the same library. Add a music store that is now great (having a good bitrate and no DRM), and I'm a happy camper.

</p><p>Whenever I see these bah-humbug posts about Apple's innovation, I just can't get my head around them. This is a company that--yes--has developed very little from scratch, but that's not the point. They've taken the theory of others and put them into useful practice. This is much, much harder. The phone I had before my iPhone had a way longer feature list, but many of those features were either such a hassle to use that I never did, or whenever I tried to use them, it crashed. In the iPhone, Apple created a phone that actually worked. In fact, they created one that "Just Worked," in a market where working <i>at all</i> was hard to find.

</p><p>It isn't fanboys who have propelled Apple to the top of the heap in the markets they've entered in recent years; it's average people who just know that their products work well and are easy to use. It's sad to say, but that right there is <i>innovation</i> in a world where companies often push garbage out the door that isn't really ready to go.

</p><p>Rather than deride the leader for not being technologically innovative, I wish people would scrutinize those who <i>are</i> technologically innovative, yet somehow manage to have their collective rear ends handed to them time and again by a company that skips a lot of the technological aspect in favor of QA and testing. What is wrong with everyone else?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Um .
The iPhone is the only phone I 've ever had that I did n't want to grind into the pavement with my heel .
It 's the only phone that I have n't actively hated .
It 's the only phone that was honest about what it could do well and what it could n't do well .
It is a great phone .
A great phone .
The iPod was the only MP3 player I 've ever had that was n't a total piece of cheapo plastic Chinese junk .
For some reason Slashdot people seem to want to drag folders to their MP3 player , which is fine for them , I guess , but I , like most people , really like having a nice piece of software that facilitates syncing what I want where .
This is especially important when I have multiple family members going off of the same library .
Add a music store that is now great ( having a good bitrate and no DRM ) , and I 'm a happy camper .
Whenever I see these bah-humbug posts about Apple 's innovation , I just ca n't get my head around them .
This is a company that--yes--has developed very little from scratch , but that 's not the point .
They 've taken the theory of others and put them into useful practice .
This is much , much harder .
The phone I had before my iPhone had a way longer feature list , but many of those features were either such a hassle to use that I never did , or whenever I tried to use them , it crashed .
In the iPhone , Apple created a phone that actually worked .
In fact , they created one that " Just Worked , " in a market where working at all was hard to find .
It is n't fanboys who have propelled Apple to the top of the heap in the markets they 've entered in recent years ; it 's average people who just know that their products work well and are easy to use .
It 's sad to say , but that right there is innovation in a world where companies often push garbage out the door that is n't really ready to go .
Rather than deride the leader for not being technologically innovative , I wish people would scrutinize those who are technologically innovative , yet somehow manage to have their collective rear ends handed to them time and again by a company that skips a lot of the technological aspect in favor of QA and testing .
What is wrong with everyone else ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Um.
The iPhone is the only phone I've ever had that I didn't want to grind into the pavement with my heel.
It's the only phone that I haven't actively hated.
It's the only phone that was honest about what it could do well and what it couldn't do well.
It is a great phone.
A great phone.
The iPod was the only MP3 player I've ever had that wasn't a total piece of cheapo plastic Chinese junk.
For some reason Slashdot people seem to want to drag folders to their MP3 player, which is fine for them, I guess, but I, like most people, really like having a nice piece of software that facilitates syncing what I want where.
This is especially important when I have multiple family members going off of the same library.
Add a music store that is now great (having a good bitrate and no DRM), and I'm a happy camper.
Whenever I see these bah-humbug posts about Apple's innovation, I just can't get my head around them.
This is a company that--yes--has developed very little from scratch, but that's not the point.
They've taken the theory of others and put them into useful practice.
This is much, much harder.
The phone I had before my iPhone had a way longer feature list, but many of those features were either such a hassle to use that I never did, or whenever I tried to use them, it crashed.
In the iPhone, Apple created a phone that actually worked.
In fact, they created one that "Just Worked," in a market where working at all was hard to find.
It isn't fanboys who have propelled Apple to the top of the heap in the markets they've entered in recent years; it's average people who just know that their products work well and are easy to use.
It's sad to say, but that right there is innovation in a world where companies often push garbage out the door that isn't really ready to go.
Rather than deride the leader for not being technologically innovative, I wish people would scrutinize those who are technologically innovative, yet somehow manage to have their collective rear ends handed to them time and again by a company that skips a lot of the technological aspect in favor of QA and testing.
What is wrong with everyone else?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30574404</id>
	<title>Re:You got some right</title>
	<author>bertoelcon</author>
	<datestamp>1262031360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Or why does the Google Phone not have a physical keyboard...</p></div><p>WTF are you talking about? The Nexus One or Android phones? I know that G1 and Milestone(Droid) both have keyboards even if some Android phones don't.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Or why does the Google Phone not have a physical keyboard...WTF are you talking about ?
The Nexus One or Android phones ?
I know that G1 and Milestone ( Droid ) both have keyboards even if some Android phones do n't .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or why does the Google Phone not have a physical keyboard...WTF are you talking about?
The Nexus One or Android phones?
I know that G1 and Milestone(Droid) both have keyboards even if some Android phones don't.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30573850</id>
	<title>Re:The product will not have an "i" prefix.</title>
	<author>Locke2005</author>
	<datestamp>1262028780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Instead, they will be using the "a" (for "Apple") prefix instead. Also, they will be introducing a device that combines all the features of all of their portable devices, tentatively named the "aWhole".</htmltext>
<tokenext>Instead , they will be using the " a " ( for " Apple " ) prefix instead .
Also , they will be introducing a device that combines all the features of all of their portable devices , tentatively named the " aWhole " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Instead, they will be using the "a" (for "Apple") prefix instead.
Also, they will be introducing a device that combines all the features of all of their portable devices, tentatively named the "aWhole".</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30574286</id>
	<title>Re:"Blogosphere?"</title>
	<author>hiscross</author>
	<datestamp>1262030820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Perfect and well said. I really want John Galt until Jesus returns.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Perfect and well said .
I really want John Galt until Jesus returns .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perfect and well said.
I really want John Galt until Jesus returns.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30574366</id>
	<title>Own network???</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262031180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I know, i know!! It's name will be "Apple Talk"...</p><p>yeah, i'll go away, right now...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I know , i know ! !
It 's name will be " Apple Talk " ...yeah , i 'll go away , right now.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know, i know!!
It's name will be "Apple Talk"...yeah, i'll go away, right now...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30573812</id>
	<title>iSpecs</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262028540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I understand the iPad on the iFront will support "iAm - iFeel" (AKA Alisha's) gesturing, the unit has iTooth connectivity and 'advanced' iWifi. The logon tune is a short snippet from "If I ruled the world", the iBoard keyboard has extra, proprietary buttons for iInstant iInterfacting(TM) (aka I4) to iPods and iPhones, the iScreen runs in a proprietary iWXVGA mode and the whole unit runs iOSX.</p><p>The marketing campaign will be fronted by Black iPeas and the unit will cost significantly more than a similar one from another manufacturer but will still be bought in large numbers by iDiots</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I understand the iPad on the iFront will support " iAm - iFeel " ( AKA Alisha 's ) gesturing , the unit has iTooth connectivity and 'advanced ' iWifi .
The logon tune is a short snippet from " If I ruled the world " , the iBoard keyboard has extra , proprietary buttons for iInstant iInterfacting ( TM ) ( aka I4 ) to iPods and iPhones , the iScreen runs in a proprietary iWXVGA mode and the whole unit runs iOSX.The marketing campaign will be fronted by Black iPeas and the unit will cost significantly more than a similar one from another manufacturer but will still be bought in large numbers by iDiots</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I understand the iPad on the iFront will support "iAm - iFeel" (AKA Alisha's) gesturing, the unit has iTooth connectivity and 'advanced' iWifi.
The logon tune is a short snippet from "If I ruled the world", the iBoard keyboard has extra, proprietary buttons for iInstant iInterfacting(TM) (aka I4) to iPods and iPhones, the iScreen runs in a proprietary iWXVGA mode and the whole unit runs iOSX.The marketing campaign will be fronted by Black iPeas and the unit will cost significantly more than a similar one from another manufacturer but will still be bought in large numbers by iDiots</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30573336</id>
	<title>Speculation on speculation?</title>
	<author>UnknowingFool</author>
	<datestamp>1262026200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>I remember when Jobs unveiled the first iPhone in Jan. 2007.  For laughs, he showed a modified iPod with a rotary dial instead of the click wheel before he showed the iPhone.  Really if it's one thing that we've learned from Apple is that nothing is true about their upcoming products until Apple announces it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I remember when Jobs unveiled the first iPhone in Jan. 2007. For laughs , he showed a modified iPod with a rotary dial instead of the click wheel before he showed the iPhone .
Really if it 's one thing that we 've learned from Apple is that nothing is true about their upcoming products until Apple announces it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I remember when Jobs unveiled the first iPhone in Jan. 2007.  For laughs, he showed a modified iPod with a rotary dial instead of the click wheel before he showed the iPhone.
Really if it's one thing that we've learned from Apple is that nothing is true about their upcoming products until Apple announces it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30577348</id>
	<title>Re:Wait?</title>
	<author>arminw</author>
	<datestamp>1262005320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>....I don't like it....<br>Why? Is it because you can't or don't want to afford their products? I just got a Mac Mini with one TB (two 500G). It runs unlimited Leopard Server and is connected to our 47 inch LCD TV. AFAIK, nobody else sells anything remotely like this.</p><p>PS.. Did you have a nice holiday? I wish you a happy new year!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>....I do n't like it....Why ?
Is it because you ca n't or do n't want to afford their products ?
I just got a Mac Mini with one TB ( two 500G ) .
It runs unlimited Leopard Server and is connected to our 47 inch LCD TV .
AFAIK , nobody else sells anything remotely like this.PS.. Did you have a nice holiday ?
I wish you a happy new year !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>....I don't like it....Why?
Is it because you can't or don't want to afford their products?
I just got a Mac Mini with one TB (two 500G).
It runs unlimited Leopard Server and is connected to our 47 inch LCD TV.
AFAIK, nobody else sells anything remotely like this.PS.. Did you have a nice holiday?
I wish you a happy new year!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30603784</id>
	<title>grudgingly...</title>
	<author>Myrcutio</author>
	<datestamp>1262253060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>i have to agree.  But here's my rant first.  skip to the bottom to get to my point.<br> <br>

my first experience with apple was in the public school system, i think we had apple II's.  the interface was unwieldy and slow, there was no right click, i could navigate easier in DOS.  Of course since then Mac's have improved, but the interface is still goofy.  Easy there fanbois, i'm talking stock interface, not custom.  The dock at the bottom is entirely useless, it doesn't close programs, only minimizes them, and doesn't display the active programs clearly at all.  Plus the control bar (start bar, whatever) changing to the open program saves about 10 pixels of space, but takes extra hotkeys to return to the desktop and/or filesystem.  This all on top of the fact that just about every aspect of the OS is held tightly under lock and key.  So if you have any issues whatsoever with a program, your only recourse is to sit on it and spin. Give me Ubuntu or give me death.<br> <br>

On the other hand, apple makes amazing hardware.  The iphone is slick, solid state, and speedy for a phone, with a pretty much intuitive interface (not perfect, but it works well enough)  Likewise, the macbook pro's are just about the best built laptops you can find, with the best balance of battery life, performance, weight, and the aluminum chasis is just sexy.<br> <br>

If the tablet is even a fraction of what the rumors claim, (at least a multi touch, monolithic, solid state slate) it'll be a new market, and a huge one at that.  I'll put up with apple interfaces if they keep delivering on the hardware.</htmltext>
<tokenext>i have to agree .
But here 's my rant first .
skip to the bottom to get to my point .
my first experience with apple was in the public school system , i think we had apple II 's .
the interface was unwieldy and slow , there was no right click , i could navigate easier in DOS .
Of course since then Mac 's have improved , but the interface is still goofy .
Easy there fanbois , i 'm talking stock interface , not custom .
The dock at the bottom is entirely useless , it does n't close programs , only minimizes them , and does n't display the active programs clearly at all .
Plus the control bar ( start bar , whatever ) changing to the open program saves about 10 pixels of space , but takes extra hotkeys to return to the desktop and/or filesystem .
This all on top of the fact that just about every aspect of the OS is held tightly under lock and key .
So if you have any issues whatsoever with a program , your only recourse is to sit on it and spin .
Give me Ubuntu or give me death .
On the other hand , apple makes amazing hardware .
The iphone is slick , solid state , and speedy for a phone , with a pretty much intuitive interface ( not perfect , but it works well enough ) Likewise , the macbook pro 's are just about the best built laptops you can find , with the best balance of battery life , performance , weight , and the aluminum chasis is just sexy .
If the tablet is even a fraction of what the rumors claim , ( at least a multi touch , monolithic , solid state slate ) it 'll be a new market , and a huge one at that .
I 'll put up with apple interfaces if they keep delivering on the hardware .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i have to agree.
But here's my rant first.
skip to the bottom to get to my point.
my first experience with apple was in the public school system, i think we had apple II's.
the interface was unwieldy and slow, there was no right click, i could navigate easier in DOS.
Of course since then Mac's have improved, but the interface is still goofy.
Easy there fanbois, i'm talking stock interface, not custom.
The dock at the bottom is entirely useless, it doesn't close programs, only minimizes them, and doesn't display the active programs clearly at all.
Plus the control bar (start bar, whatever) changing to the open program saves about 10 pixels of space, but takes extra hotkeys to return to the desktop and/or filesystem.
This all on top of the fact that just about every aspect of the OS is held tightly under lock and key.
So if you have any issues whatsoever with a program, your only recourse is to sit on it and spin.
Give me Ubuntu or give me death.
On the other hand, apple makes amazing hardware.
The iphone is slick, solid state, and speedy for a phone, with a pretty much intuitive interface (not perfect, but it works well enough)  Likewise, the macbook pro's are just about the best built laptops you can find, with the best balance of battery life, performance, weight, and the aluminum chasis is just sexy.
If the tablet is even a fraction of what the rumors claim, (at least a multi touch, monolithic, solid state slate) it'll be a new market, and a huge one at that.
I'll put up with apple interfaces if they keep delivering on the hardware.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30574016</id>
	<title>Re:Of course the anti-Apple fanbois are out in for</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1262029620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>So what's with the virulent, rabid anti-Apple hyperbole and the (getting very old and boring) claims (presumably in the interest of a kind of sledgehammer humor) that Apple products don't actually work at all, and that there is therefore something offensive about people that use Apple products?<br></i><br>Surprise -- so far there have been no such comments... except yours.</p><p>BTW, I don't own an Apple anything, although I'll probably get an iPod pretty soon.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So what 's with the virulent , rabid anti-Apple hyperbole and the ( getting very old and boring ) claims ( presumably in the interest of a kind of sledgehammer humor ) that Apple products do n't actually work at all , and that there is therefore something offensive about people that use Apple products ? Surprise -- so far there have been no such comments... except yours.BTW , I do n't own an Apple anything , although I 'll probably get an iPod pretty soon .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So what's with the virulent, rabid anti-Apple hyperbole and the (getting very old and boring) claims (presumably in the interest of a kind of sledgehammer humor) that Apple products don't actually work at all, and that there is therefore something offensive about people that use Apple products?Surprise -- so far there have been no such comments... except yours.BTW, I don't own an Apple anything, although I'll probably get an iPod pretty soon.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30577936</id>
	<title>Re:Of course the anti-Apple fanbois are out in for</title>
	<author>nomadic</author>
	<datestamp>1262010120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i> Apple makes products that are, to my eye, of a generally better design, quality, and level of attentiveness and integration than your average Dell or HP or Motorola, etc.</i>
<br>
<br>
My experience (admittedly anecdotal), has been that Apple makes products that seem, when you touch them, to be of higher quality, but they eventually break.  Of all the computers I've had, the two macs lasted the shortest period of time before getting bricked.  In both cases it was apparently a common design problem.  I am really coveting the 27 inch imac right now (hideously overpriced for the specs, I know), but I honestly am not sure it's worth buying something that will probably break down in the next few years.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Apple makes products that are , to my eye , of a generally better design , quality , and level of attentiveness and integration than your average Dell or HP or Motorola , etc .
My experience ( admittedly anecdotal ) , has been that Apple makes products that seem , when you touch them , to be of higher quality , but they eventually break .
Of all the computers I 've had , the two macs lasted the shortest period of time before getting bricked .
In both cases it was apparently a common design problem .
I am really coveting the 27 inch imac right now ( hideously overpriced for the specs , I know ) , but I honestly am not sure it 's worth buying something that will probably break down in the next few years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Apple makes products that are, to my eye, of a generally better design, quality, and level of attentiveness and integration than your average Dell or HP or Motorola, etc.
My experience (admittedly anecdotal), has been that Apple makes products that seem, when you touch them, to be of higher quality, but they eventually break.
Of all the computers I've had, the two macs lasted the shortest period of time before getting bricked.
In both cases it was apparently a common design problem.
I am really coveting the 27 inch imac right now (hideously overpriced for the specs, I know), but I honestly am not sure it's worth buying something that will probably break down in the next few years.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30576048</id>
	<title>Just "Slate"</title>
	<author>snowwrestler</author>
	<datestamp>1261996680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think it's more likely that they'll go without the "i", and just call it Slate. The Times editor said "slate." Yeah they've registered islate domains, but companies defensively register domains near their product name all the time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think it 's more likely that they 'll go without the " i " , and just call it Slate .
The Times editor said " slate .
" Yeah they 've registered islate domains , but companies defensively register domains near their product name all the time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think it's more likely that they'll go without the "i", and just call it Slate.
The Times editor said "slate.
" Yeah they've registered islate domains, but companies defensively register domains near their product name all the time.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30578376</id>
	<title>Re:Wait for it...</title>
	<author>Cloud K</author>
	<datestamp>1262013540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't think there's an "if" at this stage.  This is the interesting effect of Apple's secrecy combined with the public's excitement about the brand: there's no need for market research, as the market will tell you what it wants through all the rumours that it generates (mostly through fake 'sources').  I honestly think the tablet started out as little other than a sort of 'ricochet' of rumours bouncing from one excited site to the next.</p><p>It's at a point now where even if they didn't have a tablet lined up, they'll need to create one sharpish.  But I'm sure they heard the thirsty rumours for the past few years and have been beavering away getting something ready so as not to disappoint.</p><p>They're a sort of wish-granting genie company.  (Well, unless your wish is for customisable mid-high end consumer computers of course)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't think there 's an " if " at this stage .
This is the interesting effect of Apple 's secrecy combined with the public 's excitement about the brand : there 's no need for market research , as the market will tell you what it wants through all the rumours that it generates ( mostly through fake 'sources ' ) .
I honestly think the tablet started out as little other than a sort of 'ricochet ' of rumours bouncing from one excited site to the next.It 's at a point now where even if they did n't have a tablet lined up , they 'll need to create one sharpish .
But I 'm sure they heard the thirsty rumours for the past few years and have been beavering away getting something ready so as not to disappoint.They 're a sort of wish-granting genie company .
( Well , unless your wish is for customisable mid-high end consumer computers of course )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't think there's an "if" at this stage.
This is the interesting effect of Apple's secrecy combined with the public's excitement about the brand: there's no need for market research, as the market will tell you what it wants through all the rumours that it generates (mostly through fake 'sources').
I honestly think the tablet started out as little other than a sort of 'ricochet' of rumours bouncing from one excited site to the next.It's at a point now where even if they didn't have a tablet lined up, they'll need to create one sharpish.
But I'm sure they heard the thirsty rumours for the past few years and have been beavering away getting something ready so as not to disappoint.They're a sort of wish-granting genie company.
(Well, unless your wish is for customisable mid-high end consumer computers of course)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30574762</id>
	<title>Only one thing that really matters...</title>
	<author>Millennium</author>
	<datestamp>1262033400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There's a lot people are bandying about that's off-base, no doubt. But IMHO, there's really only one off-base thing about the iSlate that matters: the assertion that it exists at all.</p><p>There will be no second coming of Newton, folks. It failed. So have pretty much all other tablet initiatives, of which the one we currently call "tablet computing" was not the first. They sound neat and shiny on paper, but they just aren't practical, and Apple -having tried it before, keep in mind- knows this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's a lot people are bandying about that 's off-base , no doubt .
But IMHO , there 's really only one off-base thing about the iSlate that matters : the assertion that it exists at all.There will be no second coming of Newton , folks .
It failed .
So have pretty much all other tablet initiatives , of which the one we currently call " tablet computing " was not the first .
They sound neat and shiny on paper , but they just are n't practical , and Apple -having tried it before , keep in mind- knows this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's a lot people are bandying about that's off-base, no doubt.
But IMHO, there's really only one off-base thing about the iSlate that matters: the assertion that it exists at all.There will be no second coming of Newton, folks.
It failed.
So have pretty much all other tablet initiatives, of which the one we currently call "tablet computing" was not the first.
They sound neat and shiny on paper, but they just aren't practical, and Apple -having tried it before, keep in mind- knows this.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30573404</id>
	<title>The product will not have an "i" prefix.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262026560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They are launching a whole new branch of products and phasing out the "i' product all together in the next 3 years.</p><p>Just thought I'd add to the rumor mill.</p><p>--SJ</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They are launching a whole new branch of products and phasing out the " i ' product all together in the next 3 years.Just thought I 'd add to the rumor mill.--SJ</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They are launching a whole new branch of products and phasing out the "i' product all together in the next 3 years.Just thought I'd add to the rumor mill.--SJ</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30575498</id>
	<title>limited imaginations</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261993980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This pre-history is fairly entertaining in that it exposes the low-effort groupthink of these tech bloggers/pundits/opinionators. The limited imagination is evident by most just putting together the iPod and the iPhone in the most obvious of ways: click wheel iPod with phone dialing functionality. Oh wait, how do you dial? Let's propose a slideout keyboard, yeah, that's it! And half those interface mockups look like a PocketPC screenshot with an Aqua theme.</p><p>Imagine if Apple did actually put out such an iPod + clickwheel + keypad combo, behaving like an iPod + dialing features or behaving like a PocketPC/Windows Mobile phone of the era. It would be a flop in comparison to how well the iPhone actually sold.</p><p>The moral of the story is that it takes critical thinking to truly innovate (that, and a massive design effort that's focused on user experience and not a feature list).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This pre-history is fairly entertaining in that it exposes the low-effort groupthink of these tech bloggers/pundits/opinionators .
The limited imagination is evident by most just putting together the iPod and the iPhone in the most obvious of ways : click wheel iPod with phone dialing functionality .
Oh wait , how do you dial ?
Let 's propose a slideout keyboard , yeah , that 's it !
And half those interface mockups look like a PocketPC screenshot with an Aqua theme.Imagine if Apple did actually put out such an iPod + clickwheel + keypad combo , behaving like an iPod + dialing features or behaving like a PocketPC/Windows Mobile phone of the era .
It would be a flop in comparison to how well the iPhone actually sold.The moral of the story is that it takes critical thinking to truly innovate ( that , and a massive design effort that 's focused on user experience and not a feature list ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This pre-history is fairly entertaining in that it exposes the low-effort groupthink of these tech bloggers/pundits/opinionators.
The limited imagination is evident by most just putting together the iPod and the iPhone in the most obvious of ways: click wheel iPod with phone dialing functionality.
Oh wait, how do you dial?
Let's propose a slideout keyboard, yeah, that's it!
And half those interface mockups look like a PocketPC screenshot with an Aqua theme.Imagine if Apple did actually put out such an iPod + clickwheel + keypad combo, behaving like an iPod + dialing features or behaving like a PocketPC/Windows Mobile phone of the era.
It would be a flop in comparison to how well the iPhone actually sold.The moral of the story is that it takes critical thinking to truly innovate (that, and a massive design effort that's focused on user experience and not a feature list).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30573534</id>
	<title>Wait?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262027340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>&gt;&gt; All of the rumours and "opinions" really get annoying after awhile because they all contradict one another.
<br> <br>
To be frank, most of the apple (iphone/tablet/whatever) stories are already annoying. It's nothing but a huge fanboi echo-chamber or a giant fanboi orgy.</htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; &gt; All of the rumours and " opinions " really get annoying after awhile because they all contradict one another .
To be frank , most of the apple ( iphone/tablet/whatever ) stories are already annoying .
It 's nothing but a huge fanboi echo-chamber or a giant fanboi orgy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;&gt; All of the rumours and "opinions" really get annoying after awhile because they all contradict one another.
To be frank, most of the apple (iphone/tablet/whatever) stories are already annoying.
It's nothing but a huge fanboi echo-chamber or a giant fanboi orgy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30576864</id>
	<title>Re:"Blogosphere?"</title>
	<author>Glock27</author>
	<datestamp>1262001600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What, so every two years we need to update the entire vocabulary of tech? Moron... (that term never goes out of style!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</htmltext>
<tokenext>What , so every two years we need to update the entire vocabulary of tech ?
Moron... ( that term never goes out of style !
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What, so every two years we need to update the entire vocabulary of tech?
Moron... (that term never goes out of style!
:)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30577300</id>
	<title>But this time will be different</title>
	<author>multiplexo</author>
	<datestamp>1262004840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>A high percentage of what was reported turned out to be hooey &mdash; as I remembered as I reviewed stories that said the iPhone would have a click wheel, a slide-out keyboard, and two batteries, and would run on an Apple-branded wireless network. I'm guessing that much of what we 'know' about iSlate is similarly off-base."</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
This time is going to be different though! This time Duke Nukem forever will ship with the iSlate.
</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>A high percentage of what was reported turned out to be hooey    as I remembered as I reviewed stories that said the iPhone would have a click wheel , a slide-out keyboard , and two batteries , and would run on an Apple-branded wireless network .
I 'm guessing that much of what we 'know ' about iSlate is similarly off-base .
" This time is going to be different though !
This time Duke Nukem forever will ship with the iSlate .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A high percentage of what was reported turned out to be hooey — as I remembered as I reviewed stories that said the iPhone would have a click wheel, a slide-out keyboard, and two batteries, and would run on an Apple-branded wireless network.
I'm guessing that much of what we 'know' about iSlate is similarly off-base.
"

This time is going to be different though!
This time Duke Nukem forever will ship with the iSlate.

	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30576494</id>
	<title>Personally ...</title>
	<author>PPH</author>
	<datestamp>1261999080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>A high percentage of what was reported turned out to be hooey</p> </div><p>... I'm holding out for the iHooey.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>A high percentage of what was reported turned out to be hooey ... I 'm holding out for the iHooey .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A high percentage of what was reported turned out to be hooey ... I'm holding out for the iHooey.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30573646</id>
	<title>Flash:  Steve Jobs may have farted</title>
	<author>Junior J. Junior III</author>
	<datestamp>1262027760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Film at eleven.  Exclusive<nobr> <wbr></nobr><a href="http://apple.slashdot.org/story/09/12/28/1453220/The-Speculative-Pre-History-of-the-iPhone" title="slashdot.org">/. coverage</a> [slashdot.org] now!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Film at eleven .
Exclusive / .
coverage [ slashdot.org ] now !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Film at eleven.
Exclusive /.
coverage [slashdot.org] now!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30574182</id>
	<title>Re:How does Apple use rumors?</title>
	<author>Wister285</author>
	<datestamp>1262030280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sure, they use it generate interest. I certainly hope they do. But what if they did something else instead?</p><p><b>What if the rumor-mongered to generate ideas?</b></p><p>Apple seems to do it all the time now too.  Maybe it's just looking for a conspiracy when there isn't one, but think about it.  What a great business model:</p><p>1. Think about something that people are dissatisfied with and is lagging technologically.<br>2. Use your reputation and clout to monger a rumor about an "upcoming" product.<br>3. Cherry pick ideas generating by hundreds of people.<br>4. Develop and polish product.<br>5. Profit!</p><p>Seems pretty simple to me.  You off-load all of your speculative R&amp;D efforts onto the public.  That is probably the most cost-intensive portion of any company that relies on innovation.  Brilliant!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sure , they use it generate interest .
I certainly hope they do .
But what if they did something else instead ? What if the rumor-mongered to generate ideas ? Apple seems to do it all the time now too .
Maybe it 's just looking for a conspiracy when there is n't one , but think about it .
What a great business model : 1 .
Think about something that people are dissatisfied with and is lagging technologically.2 .
Use your reputation and clout to monger a rumor about an " upcoming " product.3 .
Cherry pick ideas generating by hundreds of people.4 .
Develop and polish product.5 .
Profit ! Seems pretty simple to me .
You off-load all of your speculative R&amp;D efforts onto the public .
That is probably the most cost-intensive portion of any company that relies on innovation .
Brilliant !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sure, they use it generate interest.
I certainly hope they do.
But what if they did something else instead?What if the rumor-mongered to generate ideas?Apple seems to do it all the time now too.
Maybe it's just looking for a conspiracy when there isn't one, but think about it.
What a great business model:1.
Think about something that people are dissatisfied with and is lagging technologically.2.
Use your reputation and clout to monger a rumor about an "upcoming" product.3.
Cherry pick ideas generating by hundreds of people.4.
Develop and polish product.5.
Profit!Seems pretty simple to me.
You off-load all of your speculative R&amp;D efforts onto the public.
That is probably the most cost-intensive portion of any company that relies on innovation.
Brilliant!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30577784</id>
	<title>Re:How does Apple use rumors?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262008920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>of course it's "leaks" by marketing.</p></div><p>And your evidence for this is... what, exactly? I've followed Apple for a long time, and they don't deliberately leak things. They either release information publicly, or they say nothing at all. "Rogue" leaks are heavily punished.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>my favorite was all the idiots falling for the Pre hype like the unboxing videos of supposedly "stolen" Pre's where nothing about the OS or use was demonstrated. all the idiots thought it was really rogue employees doing it instead of the marketing drones.</p></div><p>The Pre is a Palm product, so I don't see what that has to do with Apple. Just because one company might do certain things, doesn't mean that all companies operate in the same way.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>of course it 's " leaks " by marketing.And your evidence for this is... what , exactly ?
I 've followed Apple for a long time , and they do n't deliberately leak things .
They either release information publicly , or they say nothing at all .
" Rogue " leaks are heavily punished.my favorite was all the idiots falling for the Pre hype like the unboxing videos of supposedly " stolen " Pre 's where nothing about the OS or use was demonstrated .
all the idiots thought it was really rogue employees doing it instead of the marketing drones.The Pre is a Palm product , so I do n't see what that has to do with Apple .
Just because one company might do certain things , does n't mean that all companies operate in the same way .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>of course it's "leaks" by marketing.And your evidence for this is... what, exactly?
I've followed Apple for a long time, and they don't deliberately leak things.
They either release information publicly, or they say nothing at all.
"Rogue" leaks are heavily punished.my favorite was all the idiots falling for the Pre hype like the unboxing videos of supposedly "stolen" Pre's where nothing about the OS or use was demonstrated.
all the idiots thought it was really rogue employees doing it instead of the marketing drones.The Pre is a Palm product, so I don't see what that has to do with Apple.
Just because one company might do certain things, doesn't mean that all companies operate in the same way.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30573614</id>
	<title>Re:How does Apple use rumors?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262027640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>of course it's "leaks" by marketing. my favorite was all the idiots falling for the Pre hype like the unboxing videos of supposedly "stolen" Pre's where nothing about the OS or use was demonstrated. all the idiots thought it was really rogue employees doing it instead of the marketing drones. if they were real unboxing videos people would have used the phone and not just taken it out of the box</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>of course it 's " leaks " by marketing .
my favorite was all the idiots falling for the Pre hype like the unboxing videos of supposedly " stolen " Pre 's where nothing about the OS or use was demonstrated .
all the idiots thought it was really rogue employees doing it instead of the marketing drones .
if they were real unboxing videos people would have used the phone and not just taken it out of the box</tokentext>
<sentencetext>of course it's "leaks" by marketing.
my favorite was all the idiots falling for the Pre hype like the unboxing videos of supposedly "stolen" Pre's where nothing about the OS or use was demonstrated.
all the idiots thought it was really rogue employees doing it instead of the marketing drones.
if they were real unboxing videos people would have used the phone and not just taken it out of the box</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30573372</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30573304</id>
	<title>Oh...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262026080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Five minutes passed, it's time for another Apple story.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Five minutes passed , it 's time for another Apple story .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Five minutes passed, it's time for another Apple story.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30576162</id>
	<title>I'm surprised this even had to be stated...</title>
	<author>zullnero</author>
	<datestamp>1261997160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Apple fans (and employees) generate rumors.  Fanboys giggle, scream, and preorder their Apple product.  Apple product is released.  It doesn't do anything really all that better than a lot of competing products already available, but because all these people got suckered and bought one, they begin to revere their purchase as if it were truly a groundbreaking innovation.  I know these people get their iWhatever and they know it's nothing more than what everyone else is selling, but more expensive and in a prettier box, but they're so ashamed that they blew so much on a rumor that they've got to expound on that purchase as if it had been created by a collaboration between the resurrected minds of Newton and Tesla, with Michelangelo designing the UI.
<br> <br>
The iTablet or iSlate or whatever isn't going to be any different than every other Apple product.  It will sell well because their fans will refuse to admit that it's not as innovative as they thought it was going to be when they preordered it, and they'll show it off to the crowd that would buy anything as long as it comes in a pretty box.  Then the sheeple who feel they should have what everyone else has buys them.  Apple wins, and technology doesn't progress much for it.  But at least the industry begins churning out toys with really nice cases for awhile.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Apple fans ( and employees ) generate rumors .
Fanboys giggle , scream , and preorder their Apple product .
Apple product is released .
It does n't do anything really all that better than a lot of competing products already available , but because all these people got suckered and bought one , they begin to revere their purchase as if it were truly a groundbreaking innovation .
I know these people get their iWhatever and they know it 's nothing more than what everyone else is selling , but more expensive and in a prettier box , but they 're so ashamed that they blew so much on a rumor that they 've got to expound on that purchase as if it had been created by a collaboration between the resurrected minds of Newton and Tesla , with Michelangelo designing the UI .
The iTablet or iSlate or whatever is n't going to be any different than every other Apple product .
It will sell well because their fans will refuse to admit that it 's not as innovative as they thought it was going to be when they preordered it , and they 'll show it off to the crowd that would buy anything as long as it comes in a pretty box .
Then the sheeple who feel they should have what everyone else has buys them .
Apple wins , and technology does n't progress much for it .
But at least the industry begins churning out toys with really nice cases for awhile .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apple fans (and employees) generate rumors.
Fanboys giggle, scream, and preorder their Apple product.
Apple product is released.
It doesn't do anything really all that better than a lot of competing products already available, but because all these people got suckered and bought one, they begin to revere their purchase as if it were truly a groundbreaking innovation.
I know these people get their iWhatever and they know it's nothing more than what everyone else is selling, but more expensive and in a prettier box, but they're so ashamed that they blew so much on a rumor that they've got to expound on that purchase as if it had been created by a collaboration between the resurrected minds of Newton and Tesla, with Michelangelo designing the UI.
The iTablet or iSlate or whatever isn't going to be any different than every other Apple product.
It will sell well because their fans will refuse to admit that it's not as innovative as they thought it was going to be when they preordered it, and they'll show it off to the crowd that would buy anything as long as it comes in a pretty box.
Then the sheeple who feel they should have what everyone else has buys them.
Apple wins, and technology doesn't progress much for it.
But at least the industry begins churning out toys with really nice cases for awhile.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30581380</id>
	<title>Re:Speculation on speculation?</title>
	<author>LordVader717</author>
	<datestamp>1262097300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Au contraire! We had some near-perfect mockups of the iPhone months before it was announced:<br><a href="http://gizmodo.com/201329/rumor-touchscreen-ipod-before-christmas" title="gizmodo.com">http://gizmodo.com/201329/rumor-touchscreen-ipod-before-christmas</a> [gizmodo.com]<br><a href="http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/portable-media/touchscreen-ipod-due-this-november-says-our-secret-source-192158.php" title="gizmodo.com">http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/portable-media/touchscreen-ipod-due-this-november-says-our-secret-source-192158.php</a> [gizmodo.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Au contraire !
We had some near-perfect mockups of the iPhone months before it was announced : http : //gizmodo.com/201329/rumor-touchscreen-ipod-before-christmas [ gizmodo.com ] http : //gizmodo.com/gadgets/portable-media/touchscreen-ipod-due-this-november-says-our-secret-source-192158.php [ gizmodo.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Au contraire!
We had some near-perfect mockups of the iPhone months before it was announced:http://gizmodo.com/201329/rumor-touchscreen-ipod-before-christmas [gizmodo.com]http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/portable-media/touchscreen-ipod-due-this-november-says-our-secret-source-192158.php [gizmodo.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30574598</id>
	<title>Re:Wait?</title>
	<author>Red Flayer</author>
	<datestamp>1262032320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And decrying the fanboi orgy is turning into an anti-fanboi-orgy orgy.  And some people are sure to step in to say there's no problem with idle speculation, and they'll have their anti-anti-fanboi-orgy-orgy orgy.  It's recursive!<br> <br>You know it's a slow news day when blog sites are navel-gazing about the blogger coverage of an unannounced device that may or may not be in pre-production phases.<br> <br>All I have to say about it is... Meh.  When (if) a product gets released, I'll consider how it might meet my needs.</htmltext>
<tokenext>And decrying the fanboi orgy is turning into an anti-fanboi-orgy orgy .
And some people are sure to step in to say there 's no problem with idle speculation , and they 'll have their anti-anti-fanboi-orgy-orgy orgy .
It 's recursive !
You know it 's a slow news day when blog sites are navel-gazing about the blogger coverage of an unannounced device that may or may not be in pre-production phases .
All I have to say about it is... Meh. When ( if ) a product gets released , I 'll consider how it might meet my needs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And decrying the fanboi orgy is turning into an anti-fanboi-orgy orgy.
And some people are sure to step in to say there's no problem with idle speculation, and they'll have their anti-anti-fanboi-orgy-orgy orgy.
It's recursive!
You know it's a slow news day when blog sites are navel-gazing about the blogger coverage of an unannounced device that may or may not be in pre-production phases.
All I have to say about it is... Meh.  When (if) a product gets released, I'll consider how it might meet my needs.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30575166</id>
	<title>Re:The iSlate will have...</title>
	<author>nathan.fulton</author>
	<datestamp>1261992240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So it's going to run Linux?</htmltext>
<tokenext>So it 's going to run Linux ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So it's going to run Linux?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30574256</id>
	<title>Re:Wait?</title>
	<author>SanityInAnarchy</author>
	<datestamp>1262030700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, that must be why there are so many Windows and Linux stories, right?</p><p>Like it or not, Apple is important. (And for the record, I don't like it.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , that must be why there are so many Windows and Linux stories , right ? Like it or not , Apple is important .
( And for the record , I do n't like it .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, that must be why there are so many Windows and Linux stories, right?Like it or not, Apple is important.
(And for the record, I don't like it.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30574232</id>
	<title>The Apple product cycle in action</title>
	<author>David Gerard</author>
	<datestamp>1262030640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Apple is reportedly close to launching its long-rumored \_\_\_\_. It could be Apple&rsquo;s latest billion-dollar jackpot.</p><p>Analyst speculation says the \_\_\_ will be launched in September and be in the shops by Christmas. A new mention of the \_\_\_ crops up on Twitter around every eight minutes.</p><p>christ, we should all know better by now. See <a href="http://newstechnica.com/2009/08/23/apple-\_\_\_-set-to-revolutionise-consumer-electronics/" title="newstechnica.com">here</a> [newstechnica.com] and fill in the rest yourself. Illustration: the new iPod shuffle.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apple is reportedly close to launching its long-rumored \ _ \ _ \ _ \ _ .
It could be Apple    s latest billion-dollar jackpot.Analyst speculation says the \ _ \ _ \ _ will be launched in September and be in the shops by Christmas .
A new mention of the \ _ \ _ \ _ crops up on Twitter around every eight minutes.christ , we should all know better by now .
See here [ newstechnica.com ] and fill in the rest yourself .
Illustration : the new iPod shuffle .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apple is reportedly close to launching its long-rumored \_\_\_\_.
It could be Apple’s latest billion-dollar jackpot.Analyst speculation says the \_\_\_ will be launched in September and be in the shops by Christmas.
A new mention of the \_\_\_ crops up on Twitter around every eight minutes.christ, we should all know better by now.
See here [newstechnica.com] and fill in the rest yourself.
Illustration: the new iPod shuffle.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30574036</id>
	<title>Re:iSlate name</title>
	<author>bWareiWare.co.uk</author>
	<datestamp>1262029740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>i-ph-on-e sounds a bit rude to me, and at best promotes drugs.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>i-ph-on-e sounds a bit rude to me , and at best promotes drugs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i-ph-on-e sounds a bit rude to me, and at best promotes drugs.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30575300</id>
	<title>Re:How does Apple use rumors?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261992900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>How much do we know about the ways in which Apple uses rumors to gin up interest in new products?</p></div><p>I would be far more interested if it was sold with gin.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>How much do we know about the ways in which Apple uses rumors to gin up interest in new products ? I would be far more interested if it was sold with gin .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How much do we know about the ways in which Apple uses rumors to gin up interest in new products?I would be far more interested if it was sold with gin.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30573258</id>
	<title>Wait for it...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262025900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>The only way to know for sure *IF* Apple will ever release a Tablet device is to wait for it.  All of the rumours and "opinions" really get annoying after awhile because they all contradict one another.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The only way to know for sure * IF * Apple will ever release a Tablet device is to wait for it .
All of the rumours and " opinions " really get annoying after awhile because they all contradict one another .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The only way to know for sure *IF* Apple will ever release a Tablet device is to wait for it.
All of the rumours and "opinions" really get annoying after awhile because they all contradict one another.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30573668</id>
	<title>The iSlate will have...</title>
	<author>jollyreaper</author>
	<datestamp>1262027820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1. Removable battery<br>2. Free upload of unsigned software and drivers, not locking the user in to any sort of "app mall."<br>3. Full physical keyboard since everyone knows software keyboards are annoying<br>4. Full and open support for third party hardware<br>5. An affordable, low price-point that even Apple's harshest critics cannot bring themselves to complain about<br>6. Copy and paste functionality at launch</p><p>Unable to obtain 100\% accuracy, now optimizing for 100\% inaccuracy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 .
Removable battery2 .
Free upload of unsigned software and drivers , not locking the user in to any sort of " app mall. " 3 .
Full physical keyboard since everyone knows software keyboards are annoying4 .
Full and open support for third party hardware5 .
An affordable , low price-point that even Apple 's harshest critics can not bring themselves to complain about6 .
Copy and paste functionality at launchUnable to obtain 100 \ % accuracy , now optimizing for 100 \ % inaccuracy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1.
Removable battery2.
Free upload of unsigned software and drivers, not locking the user in to any sort of "app mall."3.
Full physical keyboard since everyone knows software keyboards are annoying4.
Full and open support for third party hardware5.
An affordable, low price-point that even Apple's harshest critics cannot bring themselves to complain about6.
Copy and paste functionality at launchUnable to obtain 100\% accuracy, now optimizing for 100\% inaccuracy.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30573220</id>
	<title>What Speculation?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262025720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Niggers.  Niggers didn't invent a written language, so their history is in question.  The iPhone was developed just a few years ago, during which time the White Man had writing.  There is no speculation.  We're not niggers.  Just read the goddamned history and be done with it.  You jigaboos.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Niggers .
Niggers did n't invent a written language , so their history is in question .
The iPhone was developed just a few years ago , during which time the White Man had writing .
There is no speculation .
We 're not niggers .
Just read the goddamned history and be done with it .
You jigaboos .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Niggers.
Niggers didn't invent a written language, so their history is in question.
The iPhone was developed just a few years ago, during which time the White Man had writing.
There is no speculation.
We're not niggers.
Just read the goddamned history and be done with it.
You jigaboos.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30577380</id>
	<title>Re:How does Apple use rumors?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262005560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't care what Apple does with it's tablet.</p><p>Because whatever innovation they create will get ideas flowing in other companies so that we can get other cheaper / better devices.</p><p>I admit Apple innovates alot.</p><p>I also think they are too high priced for what they provide.</p><p>But because of Apple, we also end up with more interesting stuff from others.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't care what Apple does with it 's tablet.Because whatever innovation they create will get ideas flowing in other companies so that we can get other cheaper / better devices.I admit Apple innovates alot.I also think they are too high priced for what they provide.But because of Apple , we also end up with more interesting stuff from others .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't care what Apple does with it's tablet.Because whatever innovation they create will get ideas flowing in other companies so that we can get other cheaper / better devices.I admit Apple innovates alot.I also think they are too high priced for what they provide.But because of Apple, we also end up with more interesting stuff from others.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30573372</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30573866</id>
	<title>At first I thought kdawson posted this</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262028780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hey Taco, Are you learning new skills from kdawson??? What is the purpose of this story???</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hey Taco , Are you learning new skills from kdawson ? ? ?
What is the purpose of this story ? ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hey Taco, Are you learning new skills from kdawson???
What is the purpose of this story??
?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30573644</id>
	<title>I see, you guys are working really hard...</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1262027760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...to pull yet another Apple article out of your asses, even when there is absolutely nothing to report anymore and we&rsquo;re all already stuffed to the top with it.</p><p>I wonder what Apple pays for this...</p><p>Just remember: Every new story about it, makes me want it less and block it more.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...to pull yet another Apple article out of your asses , even when there is absolutely nothing to report anymore and we    re all already stuffed to the top with it.I wonder what Apple pays for this...Just remember : Every new story about it , makes me want it less and block it more .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...to pull yet another Apple article out of your asses, even when there is absolutely nothing to report anymore and we’re all already stuffed to the top with it.I wonder what Apple pays for this...Just remember: Every new story about it, makes me want it less and block it more.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30575034</id>
	<title>Re:Wait?</title>
	<author>Lumpy</author>
	<datestamp>1261991580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well this Fanboi is certian that the Final Cut suite is the ONLY decent video editing platform out there.   and Yes I have used them all  extensively.. including AVID.</p><p>Problem is that apple is pissing in the cheerios of us that actually use their platform for work.  we still have a hugely crappy Bluray authoring solution from them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well this Fanboi is certian that the Final Cut suite is the ONLY decent video editing platform out there .
and Yes I have used them all extensively.. including AVID.Problem is that apple is pissing in the cheerios of us that actually use their platform for work .
we still have a hugely crappy Bluray authoring solution from them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well this Fanboi is certian that the Final Cut suite is the ONLY decent video editing platform out there.
and Yes I have used them all  extensively.. including AVID.Problem is that apple is pissing in the cheerios of us that actually use their platform for work.
we still have a hugely crappy Bluray authoring solution from them.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30573534</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30575520</id>
	<title>Pre-History eh?</title>
	<author>drej</author>
	<datestamp>1261994160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Was the iPhone created by Steve Jobs in 7 days or was it a project that developed naturally during the course of time, by adapting to it's environment? Who knows...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Was the iPhone created by Steve Jobs in 7 days or was it a project that developed naturally during the course of time , by adapting to it 's environment ?
Who knows.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Was the iPhone created by Steve Jobs in 7 days or was it a project that developed naturally during the course of time, by adapting to it's environment?
Who knows...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30573752</id>
	<title>Of course the anti-Apple fanbois are out in force.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262028240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Listen, I'm a Linux user (okay, I do own an iPhone, but I was a Palm phone user for years before that) and don't own or use a Mac or any other Apple products (apart from an iPhone), but seriously. Apple makes products that are, to my eye, of a generally better design, quality, and level of attentiveness and integration than your average Dell or HP or Motorola, etc.</p><p>Apple products are well-liked and often do very well in their market segments.</p><p>Shock though it may come to some here, the iPhone does in fact make and receive calls and do any number of other very useful things, yes even in New York, and I imagine that the iPod is pretty good at playing music and Macs are pretty good at web browsing, word processing, multimedia, and other things that many people typically use computers for.</p><p>So what's with the virulent, rabid anti-Apple hyperbole and the (getting very old and boring) claims (presumably in the interest of a kind of sledgehammer humor) that Apple products don't actually work at all, and that there is therefore something offensive about people that use Apple products?</p><p>Is Slashdot the victim of a giant backhanded astroturfing campaign by Verizon, HP, and Dell, or what?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Listen , I 'm a Linux user ( okay , I do own an iPhone , but I was a Palm phone user for years before that ) and do n't own or use a Mac or any other Apple products ( apart from an iPhone ) , but seriously .
Apple makes products that are , to my eye , of a generally better design , quality , and level of attentiveness and integration than your average Dell or HP or Motorola , etc.Apple products are well-liked and often do very well in their market segments.Shock though it may come to some here , the iPhone does in fact make and receive calls and do any number of other very useful things , yes even in New York , and I imagine that the iPod is pretty good at playing music and Macs are pretty good at web browsing , word processing , multimedia , and other things that many people typically use computers for.So what 's with the virulent , rabid anti-Apple hyperbole and the ( getting very old and boring ) claims ( presumably in the interest of a kind of sledgehammer humor ) that Apple products do n't actually work at all , and that there is therefore something offensive about people that use Apple products ? Is Slashdot the victim of a giant backhanded astroturfing campaign by Verizon , HP , and Dell , or what ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Listen, I'm a Linux user (okay, I do own an iPhone, but I was a Palm phone user for years before that) and don't own or use a Mac or any other Apple products (apart from an iPhone), but seriously.
Apple makes products that are, to my eye, of a generally better design, quality, and level of attentiveness and integration than your average Dell or HP or Motorola, etc.Apple products are well-liked and often do very well in their market segments.Shock though it may come to some here, the iPhone does in fact make and receive calls and do any number of other very useful things, yes even in New York, and I imagine that the iPod is pretty good at playing music and Macs are pretty good at web browsing, word processing, multimedia, and other things that many people typically use computers for.So what's with the virulent, rabid anti-Apple hyperbole and the (getting very old and boring) claims (presumably in the interest of a kind of sledgehammer humor) that Apple products don't actually work at all, and that there is therefore something offensive about people that use Apple products?Is Slashdot the victim of a giant backhanded astroturfing campaign by Verizon, HP, and Dell, or what?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30576946</id>
	<title>Re:"Blogosphere?"</title>
	<author>rantingkitten</author>
	<datestamp>1262002380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>rumor hype will excite people to impossibly high standards, and when the actual product comes out, forums will be filled with sarcastic bitching</i> <br>
<br>
Or grasping-at-straws rationalisation as to why, despite the objective observation that it is a very mediocre product, it is in fact the greatest thing that has ever been invented since the last thing Apple did, and how you're a fool for not seeing that.</htmltext>
<tokenext>rumor hype will excite people to impossibly high standards , and when the actual product comes out , forums will be filled with sarcastic bitching Or grasping-at-straws rationalisation as to why , despite the objective observation that it is a very mediocre product , it is in fact the greatest thing that has ever been invented since the last thing Apple did , and how you 're a fool for not seeing that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>rumor hype will excite people to impossibly high standards, and when the actual product comes out, forums will be filled with sarcastic bitching 

Or grasping-at-straws rationalisation as to why, despite the objective observation that it is a very mediocre product, it is in fact the greatest thing that has ever been invented since the last thing Apple did, and how you're a fool for not seeing that.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30573462</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30574254</id>
	<title>Re:The iSlate will have...</title>
	<author>Tibor the Hun</author>
	<datestamp>1262030700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And tomorrow, Cisco will announce a similar but unrelated product called iSlate!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And tomorrow , Cisco will announce a similar but unrelated product called iSlate !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And tomorrow, Cisco will announce a similar but unrelated product called iSlate!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30573668</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30574132</id>
	<title>Not only that...</title>
	<author>IANAAC</author>
	<datestamp>1262030160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Probably the most annoying thing I've seen was someone claiming that the iTablet was better than anything out there.  Yes.  A non-existent product is better than anything out there.
<p>
Cue the "Oh wait..." jokes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Probably the most annoying thing I 've seen was someone claiming that the iTablet was better than anything out there .
Yes. A non-existent product is better than anything out there .
Cue the " Oh wait... " jokes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Probably the most annoying thing I've seen was someone claiming that the iTablet was better than anything out there.
Yes.  A non-existent product is better than anything out there.
Cue the "Oh wait..." jokes.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30573258</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30579718</id>
	<title>Re:Oh...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1262028960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Tag for all future Apple rumors: iDon'tCare</p><p>At least it is for me, and I even own a MacBook!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Tag for all future Apple rumors : iDon'tCareAt least it is for me , and I even own a MacBook !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tag for all future Apple rumors: iDon'tCareAt least it is for me, and I even own a MacBook!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30573304</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30577456</id>
	<title>Re:Wait?</title>
	<author>Chuqmystr</author>
	<datestamp>1262006340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"It's nothing but a huge fanboi echo-chamber or a giant fanboi orgy."<p>

Reminds me of a line in a Southpark episode:<br>
"Everybody BACK IN THE PILE!"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" It 's nothing but a huge fanboi echo-chamber or a giant fanboi orgy .
" Reminds me of a line in a Southpark episode : " Everybody BACK IN THE PILE !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"It's nothing but a huge fanboi echo-chamber or a giant fanboi orgy.
"

Reminds me of a line in a Southpark episode:
"Everybody BACK IN THE PILE!
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_28_1453220.30573534</parent>
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