<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_12_22_0113247</id>
	<title>The Last GM Big-Block V-8 Rolls Off the Line</title>
	<author>kdawson</author>
	<datestamp>1261495080000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="mailto:DesScorp.Gmail@com" rel="nofollow">DesScorp</a> writes <i>"It's the end of an era in auto technology, as the <a href="http://www.buffalonews.com/home/story/899075.html">very last big block V-8 engine from GM</a> has rolled off the production line. The L18 engine was the last variant of an engine that had been in continuous production for over 50 years. The big blocks powered everything from the classic muscle cars of the '60s and '70s to heavy-duty trucks today. From the Buffalo News: 'When GM said last June the L18 would be eliminated by year's end, the announcement triggered another show of devotion to the product. Some customers ordered two years' worth of L18s, to put on the shelf for future use.' More than 5 million big blocks have been produced over the engine's history. The final big block engine to come off the line in Tonawanda, NY is headed for the GM Heritage Center in Sterling Heights, MI."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>DesScorp writes " It 's the end of an era in auto technology , as the very last big block V-8 engine from GM has rolled off the production line .
The L18 engine was the last variant of an engine that had been in continuous production for over 50 years .
The big blocks powered everything from the classic muscle cars of the '60s and '70s to heavy-duty trucks today .
From the Buffalo News : 'When GM said last June the L18 would be eliminated by year 's end , the announcement triggered another show of devotion to the product .
Some customers ordered two years ' worth of L18s , to put on the shelf for future use .
' More than 5 million big blocks have been produced over the engine 's history .
The final big block engine to come off the line in Tonawanda , NY is headed for the GM Heritage Center in Sterling Heights , MI .
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<sentencetext>DesScorp writes "It's the end of an era in auto technology, as the very last big block V-8 engine from GM has rolled off the production line.
The L18 engine was the last variant of an engine that had been in continuous production for over 50 years.
The big blocks powered everything from the classic muscle cars of the '60s and '70s to heavy-duty trucks today.
From the Buffalo News: 'When GM said last June the L18 would be eliminated by year's end, the announcement triggered another show of devotion to the product.
Some customers ordered two years' worth of L18s, to put on the shelf for future use.
' More than 5 million big blocks have been produced over the engine's history.
The final big block engine to come off the line in Tonawanda, NY is headed for the GM Heritage Center in Sterling Heights, MI.
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</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30527552</id>
	<title>Re:the joy's of running a big block</title>
	<author>kackle</author>
	<datestamp>1261514340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So that was you I was stuck behind on my way to work this morning?</htmltext>
<tokenext>So that was you I was stuck behind on my way to work this morning ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So that was you I was stuck behind on my way to work this morning?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30521426</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30520398</id>
	<title>Beasts!</title>
	<author>LoRdTAW</author>
	<datestamp>1261416300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We used to have an old 87 Chevy 3500 van and a 85 Chevy cube truck. Both were powered by the big block 366. Those things were nasty, I could chirp the tires on the cube truck with a light load! The van was a rocket ship, you had to be gentle on the pedal. They were hardy engines and you could pile on miles with little problems. The trucks rear finally blew in the 2000 and we junked it and sold the van. Replaced them with two GM 3500 vans which have the small block but are very ballsy. Can handle a 2700lb load with no problems, even in the PA mountains on the 70/76.</p><p>One they are retired we will switch to Sprinters with diesel engines.</p><p>RIP big block, you were a monster and legend for your day. We just don't need you anymore.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We used to have an old 87 Chevy 3500 van and a 85 Chevy cube truck .
Both were powered by the big block 366 .
Those things were nasty , I could chirp the tires on the cube truck with a light load !
The van was a rocket ship , you had to be gentle on the pedal .
They were hardy engines and you could pile on miles with little problems .
The trucks rear finally blew in the 2000 and we junked it and sold the van .
Replaced them with two GM 3500 vans which have the small block but are very ballsy .
Can handle a 2700lb load with no problems , even in the PA mountains on the 70/76.One they are retired we will switch to Sprinters with diesel engines.RIP big block , you were a monster and legend for your day .
We just do n't need you anymore .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We used to have an old 87 Chevy 3500 van and a 85 Chevy cube truck.
Both were powered by the big block 366.
Those things were nasty, I could chirp the tires on the cube truck with a light load!
The van was a rocket ship, you had to be gentle on the pedal.
They were hardy engines and you could pile on miles with little problems.
The trucks rear finally blew in the 2000 and we junked it and sold the van.
Replaced them with two GM 3500 vans which have the small block but are very ballsy.
Can handle a 2700lb load with no problems, even in the PA mountains on the 70/76.One they are retired we will switch to Sprinters with diesel engines.RIP big block, you were a monster and legend for your day.
We just don't need you anymore.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30520496</id>
	<title>Re:V-8's rock</title>
	<author>mirix</author>
	<datestamp>1261417380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's a good thing I don't have to run my own refinery then. At this point in time, diesel is still cheaper per unit of energy at the pump, which is where it matters to consumers. no?<br> <br>AFAIK diesel is cheaper to refine as well.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's a good thing I do n't have to run my own refinery then .
At this point in time , diesel is still cheaper per unit of energy at the pump , which is where it matters to consumers .
no ? AFAIK diesel is cheaper to refine as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's a good thing I don't have to run my own refinery then.
At this point in time, diesel is still cheaper per unit of energy at the pump, which is where it matters to consumers.
no? AFAIK diesel is cheaper to refine as well.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30520324</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30520690</id>
	<title>Re:the joy's of running a big block</title>
	<author>Darth Turbogeek</author>
	<datestamp>1261419900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There's just a *tiny* difference between racing on a legal drag race strip and illegal street racing. But dont let that stop you now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's just a * tiny * difference between racing on a legal drag race strip and illegal street racing .
But dont let that stop you now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's just a *tiny* difference between racing on a legal drag race strip and illegal street racing.
But dont let that stop you now.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30520456</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30523448</id>
	<title>Re:At least 10 years too late.</title>
	<author>digitalhermit</author>
	<datestamp>1261496340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>The reason GM needed to get bailed out by the government is because they ignored the evidence of every other country on earth and presumed US gas prices would always stay the same.</i></p><p>Hehe.. if they had put that much thought into it I'd surprised. As late as the end of 2008, a GM spokesperson was still saying at a car show that the American consumer doesn't care about gas prices and that the SUV and big truck would continue to sell well. I don't know what his full reasoning was -- maybe he assumed that the people who bought very large trucks and SUVs *needed* those vehicles so would buy them regardless of gas prices -- but the short of it is that even when other manufacturers were at the very least hedging their bets about big trucks/SUVs by having one or two vehicles with better fuel efficiency (or at least not a big truck), GM was still barreling (haha) on with a 2002 mindset.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The reason GM needed to get bailed out by the government is because they ignored the evidence of every other country on earth and presumed US gas prices would always stay the same.Hehe.. if they had put that much thought into it I 'd surprised .
As late as the end of 2008 , a GM spokesperson was still saying at a car show that the American consumer does n't care about gas prices and that the SUV and big truck would continue to sell well .
I do n't know what his full reasoning was -- maybe he assumed that the people who bought very large trucks and SUVs * needed * those vehicles so would buy them regardless of gas prices -- but the short of it is that even when other manufacturers were at the very least hedging their bets about big trucks/SUVs by having one or two vehicles with better fuel efficiency ( or at least not a big truck ) , GM was still barreling ( haha ) on with a 2002 mindset .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The reason GM needed to get bailed out by the government is because they ignored the evidence of every other country on earth and presumed US gas prices would always stay the same.Hehe.. if they had put that much thought into it I'd surprised.
As late as the end of 2008, a GM spokesperson was still saying at a car show that the American consumer doesn't care about gas prices and that the SUV and big truck would continue to sell well.
I don't know what his full reasoning was -- maybe he assumed that the people who bought very large trucks and SUVs *needed* those vehicles so would buy them regardless of gas prices -- but the short of it is that even when other manufacturers were at the very least hedging their bets about big trucks/SUVs by having one or two vehicles with better fuel efficiency (or at least not a big truck), GM was still barreling (haha) on with a 2002 mindset.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30521216</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30520972</id>
	<title>Re:I just pictured an oil sheik...</title>
	<author>Huzzah!</author>
	<datestamp>1261423080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Or even - try this instead - "The last of the V8 Interceptors... a piece of history!"</htmltext>
<tokenext>Or even - try this instead - " The last of the V8 Interceptors... a piece of history !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or even - try this instead - "The last of the V8 Interceptors... a piece of history!
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30520694</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30520726</id>
	<title>Re:the joy's of running a big block</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261420140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Way to tie a drunk driving story in with a guy reminescing about well-placed fun. Did you bother to read the story you linked before assuming it applied?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Way to tie a drunk driving story in with a guy reminescing about well-placed fun .
Did you bother to read the story you linked before assuming it applied ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Way to tie a drunk driving story in with a guy reminescing about well-placed fun.
Did you bother to read the story you linked before assuming it applied?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30520456</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30522328</id>
	<title>Re:I just pictured an oil sheik...</title>
	<author>CFD339</author>
	<datestamp>1261485600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Have to admit, my mind went the same place -- though in that case if memory serves, it was a Ford 351 Cleveland engine.   I may be mistaken, as I'm old and it's early.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Have to admit , my mind went the same place -- though in that case if memory serves , it was a Ford 351 Cleveland engine .
I may be mistaken , as I 'm old and it 's early .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have to admit, my mind went the same place -- though in that case if memory serves, it was a Ford 351 Cleveland engine.
I may be mistaken, as I'm old and it's early.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30520694</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30520216</id>
	<title>the joy's of running a big block</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261414260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>so goes another point of history, maybe for the better, but there was something about when you opened the hood and you saw one, now you look under the hood and it's confusing. I guess age is getting the better of me LOL.</p><p>well I guess you'll all start wondering what it was like to have 550hp+, and punching it, there is just a sound, not like any other sound, it's the sound of power, raw, and tamed by only your nerve as you head down the strip. light to light, pole to pole, neck to neck, blasting the traps at 145mph+ in mid 10's, then, only after the trophy is handed to you, you drive your car home, listening to the sweet rumble.</p><p>I never had the balls to put slicks on, always felt that control at that level of speed was worth my life. lost a few - won a few, made me money while I was in school and never lost on the street ( nor was I caught ) and earn the respect of my peers in the parking lot. Had geek cred - grease in my blood - and I loved my "RAT"<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... what more can you ask for when your 17 and it's 1983 ( well maybe DEC-VAX mainframe )</p><p>anyway thanks for reading</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>so goes another point of history , maybe for the better , but there was something about when you opened the hood and you saw one , now you look under the hood and it 's confusing .
I guess age is getting the better of me LOL.well I guess you 'll all start wondering what it was like to have 550hp + , and punching it , there is just a sound , not like any other sound , it 's the sound of power , raw , and tamed by only your nerve as you head down the strip .
light to light , pole to pole , neck to neck , blasting the traps at 145mph + in mid 10 's , then , only after the trophy is handed to you , you drive your car home , listening to the sweet rumble.I never had the balls to put slicks on , always felt that control at that level of speed was worth my life .
lost a few - won a few , made me money while I was in school and never lost on the street ( nor was I caught ) and earn the respect of my peers in the parking lot .
Had geek cred - grease in my blood - and I loved my " RAT " ... what more can you ask for when your 17 and it 's 1983 ( well maybe DEC-VAX mainframe ) anyway thanks for reading</tokentext>
<sentencetext>so goes another point of history, maybe for the better, but there was something about when you opened the hood and you saw one, now you look under the hood and it's confusing.
I guess age is getting the better of me LOL.well I guess you'll all start wondering what it was like to have 550hp+, and punching it, there is just a sound, not like any other sound, it's the sound of power, raw, and tamed by only your nerve as you head down the strip.
light to light, pole to pole, neck to neck, blasting the traps at 145mph+ in mid 10's, then, only after the trophy is handed to you, you drive your car home, listening to the sweet rumble.I never had the balls to put slicks on, always felt that control at that level of speed was worth my life.
lost a few - won a few, made me money while I was in school and never lost on the street ( nor was I caught ) and earn the respect of my peers in the parking lot.
Had geek cred - grease in my blood - and I loved my "RAT" ... what more can you ask for when your 17 and it's 1983 ( well maybe DEC-VAX mainframe )anyway thanks for reading</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30524580</id>
	<title>Re:At least 10 years too late.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261501860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The reason GM needed to get bailed out by the government is because they ignored the evidence of every other country on earth and presumed US gas prices would always stay the same. If they'd produced the last of these ten years ago and started making cars which actually have something remotely resembling fuel efficiency, good design, or low carbon emissions, then American cars might not be a global joke, the government might be a couple of billion dollars less in debt, and a whole lot of Americans who used to work in the auto industry would still have their jobs.</p><p>It took near bankruptcy to finally get GM to acknowledge that they had to actually innovate(or at least copy everyone else) rather than continuing with a technology which is 50 years old.</p></div><p>In one of life's greater ironies, GM assumed gas prices would come down based on their experiences in the late 70's early 80's.  Remember when GM re-engineered their entire product line into mid-size cars and as a result nearly died until the SUV craze caught on?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The reason GM needed to get bailed out by the government is because they ignored the evidence of every other country on earth and presumed US gas prices would always stay the same .
If they 'd produced the last of these ten years ago and started making cars which actually have something remotely resembling fuel efficiency , good design , or low carbon emissions , then American cars might not be a global joke , the government might be a couple of billion dollars less in debt , and a whole lot of Americans who used to work in the auto industry would still have their jobs.It took near bankruptcy to finally get GM to acknowledge that they had to actually innovate ( or at least copy everyone else ) rather than continuing with a technology which is 50 years old.In one of life 's greater ironies , GM assumed gas prices would come down based on their experiences in the late 70 's early 80 's .
Remember when GM re-engineered their entire product line into mid-size cars and as a result nearly died until the SUV craze caught on ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The reason GM needed to get bailed out by the government is because they ignored the evidence of every other country on earth and presumed US gas prices would always stay the same.
If they'd produced the last of these ten years ago and started making cars which actually have something remotely resembling fuel efficiency, good design, or low carbon emissions, then American cars might not be a global joke, the government might be a couple of billion dollars less in debt, and a whole lot of Americans who used to work in the auto industry would still have their jobs.It took near bankruptcy to finally get GM to acknowledge that they had to actually innovate(or at least copy everyone else) rather than continuing with a technology which is 50 years old.In one of life's greater ironies, GM assumed gas prices would come down based on their experiences in the late 70's early 80's.
Remember when GM re-engineered their entire product line into mid-size cars and as a result nearly died until the SUV craze caught on?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30521216</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30523016</id>
	<title>Re:A: Because it breaks the flow of a message</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261493400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yoda must really get on your nerves...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yoda must really get on your nerves.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yoda must really get on your nerves...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30520238</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30524058</id>
	<title>Re:I just pictured an oil sheik...</title>
	<author>JonStewartMill</author>
	<datestamp>1261499700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's a funny image, but your sig makes English profs (and me) do the same.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's a funny image , but your sig makes English profs ( and me ) do the same .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's a funny image, but your sig makes English profs (and me) do the same.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30519988</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30520490</id>
	<title>asdfasdf</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261417260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Seriously though, does anyone else read the content first and usually skip the subject of a post?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously though , does anyone else read the content first and usually skip the subject of a post ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously though, does anyone else read the content first and usually skip the subject of a post?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30520238</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30520774</id>
	<title>Re:V-8's rock</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261420680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>GM also got rid of Detroit Diesel as well.....</p><p>Of course enviromental "concearns" helped stop production of reilable 2 cycle Detroits. Long live the 71 and 92 series....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>GM also got rid of Detroit Diesel as well.....Of course enviromental " concearns " helped stop production of reilable 2 cycle Detroits .
Long live the 71 and 92 series... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>GM also got rid of Detroit Diesel as well.....Of course enviromental "concearns" helped stop production of reilable 2 cycle Detroits.
Long live the 71 and 92 series....</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30520156</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30520494</id>
	<title>Big Block is Meaningless</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261417320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>GM produces a 7 liter motor, the same size as the old big block 427.  The 427 was a wicked powerful motor.  The new engine is better.  Who cares if one was called the big block.  Power is the real important number.  Weight and compactness are important as well.  Even displacement is meaningless in the forced induction era.  The term big block is meaningless.  The performance cars and heavy duty trucks of today are far and away superior to their forebears in every way.</p><p>Regards,<br>Jason</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>GM produces a 7 liter motor , the same size as the old big block 427 .
The 427 was a wicked powerful motor .
The new engine is better .
Who cares if one was called the big block .
Power is the real important number .
Weight and compactness are important as well .
Even displacement is meaningless in the forced induction era .
The term big block is meaningless .
The performance cars and heavy duty trucks of today are far and away superior to their forebears in every way.Regards,Jason</tokentext>
<sentencetext>GM produces a 7 liter motor, the same size as the old big block 427.
The 427 was a wicked powerful motor.
The new engine is better.
Who cares if one was called the big block.
Power is the real important number.
Weight and compactness are important as well.
Even displacement is meaningless in the forced induction era.
The term big block is meaningless.
The performance cars and heavy duty trucks of today are far and away superior to their forebears in every way.Regards,Jason</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30520652</id>
	<title>You must be...</title>
	<author>sootman</author>
	<datestamp>1261419540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... a blast at parties.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... a blast at parties .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... a blast at parties.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30520238</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30523510</id>
	<title>Blame Obama Motors</title>
	<author>p51d007</author>
	<datestamp>1261496700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wouldn't be surprised if Obama's idiots told GM "we gave you money, you do what we tell you".</htmltext>
<tokenext>Would n't be surprised if Obama 's idiots told GM " we gave you money , you do what we tell you " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wouldn't be surprised if Obama's idiots told GM "we gave you money, you do what we tell you".</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30519988</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30524060</id>
	<title>Re:At least 10 years too late.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261499700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hogwash - fuel efficiency of GM engines has met or exceeded comparable engines from most other manufacturers. GM high volume engines around the world (North America included)  have not been Big Block V-8s...even in their heyday.  According to various articles the  big-block engine was most recently produced at a single plant and made up less than 3\% of production from that plant.  Much of that was designated for Marine duty, not pick-up trucks, SUVs and certainly not cars.</p><p>GM has manufactured and sold a variety of 4cyl, 6cyl (inline and V), and small block V8s.<br>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_GM\_engines<br>http://archives.media.gm.com/us/powertrain/en/product\_services/2010/gmna/10truck\_us.htm</p><p>Their engine tech was often cited by the ignnorant as outdated and ineffecient, but an honest assessment and comparison would find that in most cases (certainly from the 90's forward) GM powerplants meet or beat the performance specs of any competitor.</p><p>The reason GM needed bailed out had to do with a host of poor management decisions, including design (aesthetics), short-sighted agreements with unions that lead to unbearable legacy health care and pension costs, very poor marketing and re-badging products across multiple product lines, plus too many dealers selling the same product driving down prices and scavenging sales from one another.</p><p>Engine design, innovation and performance is perhaps one of the few areas where GM has and continues to excel.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hogwash - fuel efficiency of GM engines has met or exceeded comparable engines from most other manufacturers .
GM high volume engines around the world ( North America included ) have not been Big Block V-8s...even in their heyday .
According to various articles the big-block engine was most recently produced at a single plant and made up less than 3 \ % of production from that plant .
Much of that was designated for Marine duty , not pick-up trucks , SUVs and certainly not cars.GM has manufactured and sold a variety of 4cyl , 6cyl ( inline and V ) , and small block V8s.http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List \ _of \ _GM \ _engineshttp : //archives.media.gm.com/us/powertrain/en/product \ _services/2010/gmna/10truck \ _us.htmTheir engine tech was often cited by the ignnorant as outdated and ineffecient , but an honest assessment and comparison would find that in most cases ( certainly from the 90 's forward ) GM powerplants meet or beat the performance specs of any competitor.The reason GM needed bailed out had to do with a host of poor management decisions , including design ( aesthetics ) , short-sighted agreements with unions that lead to unbearable legacy health care and pension costs , very poor marketing and re-badging products across multiple product lines , plus too many dealers selling the same product driving down prices and scavenging sales from one another.Engine design , innovation and performance is perhaps one of the few areas where GM has and continues to excel .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hogwash - fuel efficiency of GM engines has met or exceeded comparable engines from most other manufacturers.
GM high volume engines around the world (North America included)  have not been Big Block V-8s...even in their heyday.
According to various articles the  big-block engine was most recently produced at a single plant and made up less than 3\% of production from that plant.
Much of that was designated for Marine duty, not pick-up trucks, SUVs and certainly not cars.GM has manufactured and sold a variety of 4cyl, 6cyl (inline and V), and small block V8s.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_GM\_engineshttp://archives.media.gm.com/us/powertrain/en/product\_services/2010/gmna/10truck\_us.htmTheir engine tech was often cited by the ignnorant as outdated and ineffecient, but an honest assessment and comparison would find that in most cases (certainly from the 90's forward) GM powerplants meet or beat the performance specs of any competitor.The reason GM needed bailed out had to do with a host of poor management decisions, including design (aesthetics), short-sighted agreements with unions that lead to unbearable legacy health care and pension costs, very poor marketing and re-badging products across multiple product lines, plus too many dealers selling the same product driving down prices and scavenging sales from one another.Engine design, innovation and performance is perhaps one of the few areas where GM has and continues to excel.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30523596</id>
	<title>american cars suck shit</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261497060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just throw a 2JZ in it and call it a day</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just throw a 2JZ in it and call it a day</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just throw a 2JZ in it and call it a day</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30521666</id>
	<title>the other v8</title>
	<author>StripedCow</author>
	<datestamp>1261476000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well luckily, we computernerds still have <a href="http://code.google.com/p/v8" title="google.com" rel="nofollow">this V8</a> [google.com].</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well luckily , we computernerds still have this V8 [ google.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well luckily, we computernerds still have this V8 [google.com].</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30526780</id>
	<title>Re:turn the page</title>
	<author>digitalhermit</author>
	<datestamp>1261511580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Likewise, I have a soft spot for the land-line and the command line</i></p><p>You damn young'uns and your interactive shells.  Sheesh.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Likewise , I have a soft spot for the land-line and the command lineYou damn young'uns and your interactive shells .
Sheesh .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Likewise, I have a soft spot for the land-line and the command lineYou damn young'uns and your interactive shells.
Sheesh.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30520456</id>
	<title>Re:the joy's of running a big block</title>
	<author>\_merlin</author>
	<datestamp>1261416780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, it's all great until you <a href="http://www.theage.com.au/national/one-beautiful-life-ends-as-fine-summer-evening-turns-to-tragedy-20091221-la65.html?autostart=1" title="theage.com.au">kill someone</a> [theage.com.au] in an effort to lengthen your pathetically small penis.  Oh, and the DEC VAX is a supermini - not a mainframe (the PDP-10 was the mainframe).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , it 's all great until you kill someone [ theage.com.au ] in an effort to lengthen your pathetically small penis .
Oh , and the DEC VAX is a supermini - not a mainframe ( the PDP-10 was the mainframe ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, it's all great until you kill someone [theage.com.au] in an effort to lengthen your pathetically small penis.
Oh, and the DEC VAX is a supermini - not a mainframe (the PDP-10 was the mainframe).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30520238</id>
	<title>A: Because it breaks the flow of a message</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261414440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Q: Why is starting a comment in the Subject: line incredibly annoying?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Q : Why is starting a comment in the Subject : line incredibly annoying ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Q: Why is starting a comment in the Subject: line incredibly annoying?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30520170</id>
	<title>Add a supercharger...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261413900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>and one day Mad Max will get this engine.  Now we know; the clock is ticking on the apocalypse.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>and one day Mad Max will get this engine .
Now we know ; the clock is ticking on the apocalypse .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and one day Mad Max will get this engine.
Now we know; the clock is ticking on the apocalypse.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30522240</id>
	<title>What's different vs the Audi engine?</title>
	<author>cheros</author>
	<datestamp>1261484100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>OK, I assume the Audi V8s are by necessity more efficient, but what makes the GM V8 so special other than being used in the US - maybe because there will be no more spare parts for US cars?</p><p>AFAIK Audi (and others) are still happily making decent V8s so it's not like the "world of V8" is coming to an end.</p><p>Puzzled..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>OK , I assume the Audi V8s are by necessity more efficient , but what makes the GM V8 so special other than being used in the US - maybe because there will be no more spare parts for US cars ? AFAIK Audi ( and others ) are still happily making decent V8s so it 's not like the " world of V8 " is coming to an end.Puzzled. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OK, I assume the Audi V8s are by necessity more efficient, but what makes the GM V8 so special other than being used in the US - maybe because there will be no more spare parts for US cars?AFAIK Audi (and others) are still happily making decent V8s so it's not like the "world of V8" is coming to an end.Puzzled..</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30521640</id>
	<title>Re:A: Because it breaks the flow of a message</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261475700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, it just shows that top-posting sucks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , it just shows that top-posting sucks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, it just shows that top-posting sucks.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30520238</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30522388</id>
	<title>Re:the joy's of running a big block</title>
	<author>Thundarr Trollgrim</author>
	<datestamp>1261486920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"Joy's" ????<br> <br>

If only you had spent a little less time being a macho idiot and a little more time learning English...<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Joy 's " ? ? ? ?
If only you had spent a little less time being a macho idiot and a little more time learning English... ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Joy's" ????
If only you had spent a little less time being a macho idiot and a little more time learning English... ;)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30523810</id>
	<title>But dollars per HP is not</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261498260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My BB 427 makes the same power that a new LS7 does, but is two full compression points lower, and has a much smaller and flat hydraulic cam. And get better gas mileage to boot.</p><p>I also could have built 3 or 4 of these for the cost of an LS7. Or I could have taken the the money an LS7 costs and easily build a motor that makes twice as much power with greater reliability.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My BB 427 makes the same power that a new LS7 does , but is two full compression points lower , and has a much smaller and flat hydraulic cam .
And get better gas mileage to boot.I also could have built 3 or 4 of these for the cost of an LS7 .
Or I could have taken the the money an LS7 costs and easily build a motor that makes twice as much power with greater reliability .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My BB 427 makes the same power that a new LS7 does, but is two full compression points lower, and has a much smaller and flat hydraulic cam.
And get better gas mileage to boot.I also could have built 3 or 4 of these for the cost of an LS7.
Or I could have taken the the money an LS7 costs and easily build a motor that makes twice as much power with greater reliability.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30520914</id>
	<title>Excuse me,</title>
	<author>coolgeek</author>
	<datestamp>1261422240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But when did Chevy ever use a Big Block V8 in a Corvair?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But when did Chevy ever use a Big Block V8 in a Corvair ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But when did Chevy ever use a Big Block V8 in a Corvair?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30532232</id>
	<title>Many V8s</title>
	<author>ChrisMaple</author>
	<datestamp>1261498860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Back in the 1950s and 1960s each badge had its own V8. Buick, Oldsmobile, Pontiac, Cadillac each had its own different design. Chevy had three: the small block which included the 327 and others, a middle-size engine which included the 409 (eventually dropped from passenger car use), and the big block family discussed in the article.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Back in the 1950s and 1960s each badge had its own V8 .
Buick , Oldsmobile , Pontiac , Cadillac each had its own different design .
Chevy had three : the small block which included the 327 and others , a middle-size engine which included the 409 ( eventually dropped from passenger car use ) , and the big block family discussed in the article .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Back in the 1950s and 1960s each badge had its own V8.
Buick, Oldsmobile, Pontiac, Cadillac each had its own different design.
Chevy had three: the small block which included the 327 and others, a middle-size engine which included the 409 (eventually dropped from passenger car use), and the big block family discussed in the article.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30521048</id>
	<title>Only the last *GM* Rat</title>
	<author>71bigblock</author>
	<datestamp>1261424220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Dart Machinery and World Products make better BBCs than even GM did.  But... still glad i've got my 'early' ('65 396)  big block chevy motivation in the garage.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Dart Machinery and World Products make better BBCs than even GM did .
But... still glad i 've got my 'early ' ( '65 396 ) big block chevy motivation in the garage .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dart Machinery and World Products make better BBCs than even GM did.
But... still glad i've got my 'early' ('65 396)  big block chevy motivation in the garage.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30552300</id>
	<title>Re:A: Because it breaks the flow of a message</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1261774740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, that&rsquo;s your own fault of having picked up on that idiot habit. It&rsquo;s a habit of the kind of people who send e-mails without subject lines (that go straight to the spam folder in my case), and do the same on Internet forums.</p><p>And those are the people that are <em>actually</em> really annoying. Because with those idiots, one always has to read the whole text, to know what it&rsquo;s about, because they are too stupid to <em>summarize</em> it for us in the <em>summary</em>. That&rsquo;t what it&rsquo;s for. <strong>USE IT</strong>.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , that    s your own fault of having picked up on that idiot habit .
It    s a habit of the kind of people who send e-mails without subject lines ( that go straight to the spam folder in my case ) , and do the same on Internet forums.And those are the people that are actually really annoying .
Because with those idiots , one always has to read the whole text , to know what it    s about , because they are too stupid to summarize it for us in the summary .
That    t what it    s for .
USE IT .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, that’s your own fault of having picked up on that idiot habit.
It’s a habit of the kind of people who send e-mails without subject lines (that go straight to the spam folder in my case), and do the same on Internet forums.And those are the people that are actually really annoying.
Because with those idiots, one always has to read the whole text, to know what it’s about, because they are too stupid to summarize it for us in the summary.
That’t what it’s for.
USE IT.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30520358</id>
	<title>Re:the joy's of running a big block</title>
	<author>Guysdrinkingbeer</author>
	<datestamp>1261415760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Amen. That's all I have to say to that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Amen .
That 's all I have to say to that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Amen.
That's all I have to say to that.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30521216</id>
	<title>At least 10 years too late.</title>
	<author>Eskarel</author>
	<datestamp>1261512720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The reason GM needed to get bailed out by the government is because they ignored the evidence of every other country on earth and presumed US gas prices would always stay the same. If they'd produced the last of these ten years ago and started making cars which actually have something remotely resembling fuel efficiency, good design, or low carbon emissions, then American cars might not be a global joke, the government might be a couple of billion dollars less in debt, and a whole lot of Americans who used to work in the auto industry would still have their jobs.</p><p>It took near bankruptcy to finally get GM to acknowledge that they had to actually innovate(or at least copy everyone else) rather than continuing with a technology which is 50 years old.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The reason GM needed to get bailed out by the government is because they ignored the evidence of every other country on earth and presumed US gas prices would always stay the same .
If they 'd produced the last of these ten years ago and started making cars which actually have something remotely resembling fuel efficiency , good design , or low carbon emissions , then American cars might not be a global joke , the government might be a couple of billion dollars less in debt , and a whole lot of Americans who used to work in the auto industry would still have their jobs.It took near bankruptcy to finally get GM to acknowledge that they had to actually innovate ( or at least copy everyone else ) rather than continuing with a technology which is 50 years old .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The reason GM needed to get bailed out by the government is because they ignored the evidence of every other country on earth and presumed US gas prices would always stay the same.
If they'd produced the last of these ten years ago and started making cars which actually have something remotely resembling fuel efficiency, good design, or low carbon emissions, then American cars might not be a global joke, the government might be a couple of billion dollars less in debt, and a whole lot of Americans who used to work in the auto industry would still have their jobs.It took near bankruptcy to finally get GM to acknowledge that they had to actually innovate(or at least copy everyone else) rather than continuing with a technology which is 50 years old.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30522938</id>
	<title>Re:A: Because it breaks the flow of a message</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261492740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Except, it doesn't.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Except , it does n't .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Except, it doesn't.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30520650</id>
	<title>Re:the joy's of running a big block</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261419480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>sounds like you're mad bro.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>sounds like you 're mad bro .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>sounds like you're mad bro.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30524424</id>
	<title>Re:What's different vs the Audi engine?</title>
	<author>fnj</author>
	<datestamp>1261501260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Like the guy says, this is one broad variety of v-8.  There are still a pantload of v-8's going to be produced in the US and by GM.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Like the guy says , this is one broad variety of v-8 .
There are still a pantload of v-8 's going to be produced in the US and by GM .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Like the guy says, this is one broad variety of v-8.
There are still a pantload of v-8's going to be produced in the US and by GM.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30526174</id>
	<title>End of an era</title>
	<author>couch\_warrior</author>
	<datestamp>1261509360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It appears that we have seen the last of an American icon, namely the "big block" V8 engine.

There could not be a more poignant, even stirring example of the slow steady wimpification of US culture than the passing of this pillar of young male manhood.

My brother Jim and I had a phrase for the thrum-thrum noise made by the revving of a big-block V8, we called it the "Happy Engine Song". Singing it required a displacement of no less than 350 cubic inches (about 6000cc's in today's parlance). But that song will now pass into obscurity, the victim of oil prices and economic decline.

Global warming may give us a lot more beachfront property, but we'll be driving to those beaches in little tin 15HP hybrid-mobiles.

No one will ever sing a song titled "She's real fine my 60mpg 2cylinder-electric hybrid".....meh!</htmltext>
<tokenext>It appears that we have seen the last of an American icon , namely the " big block " V8 engine .
There could not be a more poignant , even stirring example of the slow steady wimpification of US culture than the passing of this pillar of young male manhood .
My brother Jim and I had a phrase for the thrum-thrum noise made by the revving of a big-block V8 , we called it the " Happy Engine Song " .
Singing it required a displacement of no less than 350 cubic inches ( about 6000cc 's in today 's parlance ) .
But that song will now pass into obscurity , the victim of oil prices and economic decline .
Global warming may give us a lot more beachfront property , but we 'll be driving to those beaches in little tin 15HP hybrid-mobiles .
No one will ever sing a song titled " She 's real fine my 60mpg 2cylinder-electric hybrid " .....meh !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It appears that we have seen the last of an American icon, namely the "big block" V8 engine.
There could not be a more poignant, even stirring example of the slow steady wimpification of US culture than the passing of this pillar of young male manhood.
My brother Jim and I had a phrase for the thrum-thrum noise made by the revving of a big-block V8, we called it the "Happy Engine Song".
Singing it required a displacement of no less than 350 cubic inches (about 6000cc's in today's parlance).
But that song will now pass into obscurity, the victim of oil prices and economic decline.
Global warming may give us a lot more beachfront property, but we'll be driving to those beaches in little tin 15HP hybrid-mobiles.
No one will ever sing a song titled "She's real fine my 60mpg 2cylinder-electric hybrid".....meh!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30520736</id>
	<title>Reliable Big Power will live on in the Aftermarket</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261420260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dart's BigM and World Products' Merlin blocks will live on.  Not only can you get something 100\% compatible with the GM line, there are variants with taller deck height and siamesed bores that will very readily get you to 632 cubic inches in cast iron OR aluminum and will often still bolt into a stock location.  Heads from these companies are available from stock variations to those with huge valves and runners.  Pistons, rods, and cranks: an endless choice beautiful forged parts; you can easily get a custom big block to your liking that contains no GM parts and is better in every way.  These engines are the darlings of marine applications where it's not uncommon to see a normally-aspirated big block that makes 800 horsepower, and not just for seconds at a time like some high-strung turbo + nitris grenade engine, they go for HOURS non-stop<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)   Fuel consumption?  comparable to any gasoline-powered otto-cycle engine: much off idle, just figure about 1 gallon per hour per 10 hp of actual output in use.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dart 's BigM and World Products ' Merlin blocks will live on .
Not only can you get something 100 \ % compatible with the GM line , there are variants with taller deck height and siamesed bores that will very readily get you to 632 cubic inches in cast iron OR aluminum and will often still bolt into a stock location .
Heads from these companies are available from stock variations to those with huge valves and runners .
Pistons , rods , and cranks : an endless choice beautiful forged parts ; you can easily get a custom big block to your liking that contains no GM parts and is better in every way .
These engines are the darlings of marine applications where it 's not uncommon to see a normally-aspirated big block that makes 800 horsepower , and not just for seconds at a time like some high-strung turbo + nitris grenade engine , they go for HOURS non-stop : ) Fuel consumption ?
comparable to any gasoline-powered otto-cycle engine : much off idle , just figure about 1 gallon per hour per 10 hp of actual output in use .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dart's BigM and World Products' Merlin blocks will live on.
Not only can you get something 100\% compatible with the GM line, there are variants with taller deck height and siamesed bores that will very readily get you to 632 cubic inches in cast iron OR aluminum and will often still bolt into a stock location.
Heads from these companies are available from stock variations to those with huge valves and runners.
Pistons, rods, and cranks: an endless choice beautiful forged parts; you can easily get a custom big block to your liking that contains no GM parts and is better in every way.
These engines are the darlings of marine applications where it's not uncommon to see a normally-aspirated big block that makes 800 horsepower, and not just for seconds at a time like some high-strung turbo + nitris grenade engine, they go for HOURS non-stop :)   Fuel consumption?
comparable to any gasoline-powered otto-cycle engine: much off idle, just figure about 1 gallon per hour per 10 hp of actual output in use.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30520638</id>
	<title>car analogies</title>
	<author>OrangeTide</author>
	<datestamp>1261419300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The big block V8 is like the Itanium. Big and power hungry and a real commercial workhorse.</p><p>It think people are sad because it would be like if Intel stopped making Core 2 Quads and decided all you needed was an Atom chip.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The big block V8 is like the Itanium .
Big and power hungry and a real commercial workhorse.It think people are sad because it would be like if Intel stopped making Core 2 Quads and decided all you needed was an Atom chip .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The big block V8 is like the Itanium.
Big and power hungry and a real commercial workhorse.It think people are sad because it would be like if Intel stopped making Core 2 Quads and decided all you needed was an Atom chip.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30520712</id>
	<title>Balls, does anyone have a pair?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261419960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What a bunch of whining pussies.</p><p>The big block V8 is a piece of Americana.  If you want to cry about emissions and technology, take a second before hand and remember that most tinkerers begin in the garage.</p><p>Say goodbye and thanks for the memories, or stfu.</p><p>Pussies.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What a bunch of whining pussies.The big block V8 is a piece of Americana .
If you want to cry about emissions and technology , take a second before hand and remember that most tinkerers begin in the garage.Say goodbye and thanks for the memories , or stfu.Pussies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What a bunch of whining pussies.The big block V8 is a piece of Americana.
If you want to cry about emissions and technology, take a second before hand and remember that most tinkerers begin in the garage.Say goodbye and thanks for the memories, or stfu.Pussies.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30522544</id>
	<title>Re:I just pictured an oil sheik...</title>
	<author>idiotnot</author>
	<datestamp>1261488540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He drove a Cadillac.  (And ate at Burger King.  And had some nifty F-4s.)  They quit making the big Caddies long ago.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-(</p><p>There's still a big demand for the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadillac\_V8\_engine#500" title="wikipedia.org">BB Caddy engines</a> [wikipedia.org].  Popular in larger performance vehicles.  Not so much in trucks, where the BB Chevy is easier.</p><p>Sadder than the death of the GM big block is that you can't buy a half-ton pickup with a manual transmission anymore.</p><p>Oblig...RIP Joe Strummer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He drove a Cadillac .
( And ate at Burger King .
And had some nifty F-4s .
) They quit making the big Caddies long ago .
: - ( There 's still a big demand for the BB Caddy engines [ wikipedia.org ] .
Popular in larger performance vehicles .
Not so much in trucks , where the BB Chevy is easier.Sadder than the death of the GM big block is that you ca n't buy a half-ton pickup with a manual transmission anymore.Oblig...RIP Joe Strummer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He drove a Cadillac.
(And ate at Burger King.
And had some nifty F-4s.
)  They quit making the big Caddies long ago.
:-(There's still a big demand for the BB Caddy engines [wikipedia.org].
Popular in larger performance vehicles.
Not so much in trucks, where the BB Chevy is easier.Sadder than the death of the GM big block is that you can't buy a half-ton pickup with a manual transmission anymore.Oblig...RIP Joe Strummer.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30524708</id>
	<title>Now to be made in China</title>
	<author>tekrat</author>
	<datestamp>1261502460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When the last Beetle rolled off the assembly line, all the tooling was sold to China. Now the Chinese stamp out parts for Beetles. I can pull out the Mid America Motorworks catalog and essentially order enough pieces to build a beetle from the ground up. All I need (which can't be ordered) is the center-tube, which is essentially "the frame", but all other pieces are avialable.</p><p>What's the bet that all the tooling for this engine will be sold to China, and China will make the engine, but only as parts. So, you'll be able to buy all the pieces and assemble the engine yourself.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When the last Beetle rolled off the assembly line , all the tooling was sold to China .
Now the Chinese stamp out parts for Beetles .
I can pull out the Mid America Motorworks catalog and essentially order enough pieces to build a beetle from the ground up .
All I need ( which ca n't be ordered ) is the center-tube , which is essentially " the frame " , but all other pieces are avialable.What 's the bet that all the tooling for this engine will be sold to China , and China will make the engine , but only as parts .
So , you 'll be able to buy all the pieces and assemble the engine yourself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When the last Beetle rolled off the assembly line, all the tooling was sold to China.
Now the Chinese stamp out parts for Beetles.
I can pull out the Mid America Motorworks catalog and essentially order enough pieces to build a beetle from the ground up.
All I need (which can't be ordered) is the center-tube, which is essentially "the frame", but all other pieces are avialable.What's the bet that all the tooling for this engine will be sold to China, and China will make the engine, but only as parts.
So, you'll be able to buy all the pieces and assemble the engine yourself.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30520672</id>
	<title>8.1L</title>
	<author>postmortem</author>
	<datestamp>1261419720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What a waste of fuel through the years. If normal size engines with decent fuel mileage were used, we'd have much bigger oil reserves today.

SUVs and trucks with such engines are not necessary to get to work or drive hundreds of miles on interstate or to drive to Walmart and get groceries. That's where I see them.</htmltext>
<tokenext>What a waste of fuel through the years .
If normal size engines with decent fuel mileage were used , we 'd have much bigger oil reserves today .
SUVs and trucks with such engines are not necessary to get to work or drive hundreds of miles on interstate or to drive to Walmart and get groceries .
That 's where I see them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What a waste of fuel through the years.
If normal size engines with decent fuel mileage were used, we'd have much bigger oil reserves today.
SUVs and trucks with such engines are not necessary to get to work or drive hundreds of miles on interstate or to drive to Walmart and get groceries.
That's where I see them.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30528086</id>
	<title>Re:the joy's of running a big block</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261472820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Newsflash: people who race cars on public roads are brainless tards and I pray that they die roasting in fiery crashes. Crashes with large inanimate objects, of course.</p></div><p>This is insightful? To wish painful death on another human for behaving in a way that you don't agree with? Granted, street racing is dangerous, to others as well as yourself. But death for (what you think of as) irresponsibility? Really? That would be a frightening world to exist in.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Newsflash : people who race cars on public roads are brainless tards and I pray that they die roasting in fiery crashes .
Crashes with large inanimate objects , of course.This is insightful ?
To wish painful death on another human for behaving in a way that you do n't agree with ?
Granted , street racing is dangerous , to others as well as yourself .
But death for ( what you think of as ) irresponsibility ?
Really ? That would be a frightening world to exist in .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Newsflash: people who race cars on public roads are brainless tards and I pray that they die roasting in fiery crashes.
Crashes with large inanimate objects, of course.This is insightful?
To wish painful death on another human for behaving in a way that you don't agree with?
Granted, street racing is dangerous, to others as well as yourself.
But death for (what you think of as) irresponsibility?
Really? That would be a frightening world to exist in.
	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30522702</id>
	<title>Whats all the fuss about??</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261490280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So another dinosaur becomes extinct.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So another dinosaur becomes extinct .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So another dinosaur becomes extinct.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30522010</id>
	<title>Re:I just pictured an oil sheik...</title>
	<author>hidoh</author>
	<datestamp>1261480320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seriously, petrol heads in Saudi Arabia are going to be pissed off.<br>These people buy Japanese cars manufactured in the US only because they make them bigger.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously , petrol heads in Saudi Arabia are going to be pissed off.These people buy Japanese cars manufactured in the US only because they make them bigger .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously, petrol heads in Saudi Arabia are going to be pissed off.These people buy Japanese cars manufactured in the US only because they make them bigger.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30519988</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30525588</id>
	<title>Re:Add a supercharger...</title>
	<author>elrous0</author>
	<datestamp>1261506780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Thank God at least one other person recognized the Mad Max reference in the summary. I'm very disappointed in<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. that it took this many posts.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Thank God at least one other person recognized the Mad Max reference in the summary .
I 'm very disappointed in / .
that it took this many posts .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thank God at least one other person recognized the Mad Max reference in the summary.
I'm very disappointed in /.
that it took this many posts.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30520170</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30520360</id>
	<title>Re:V-8's rock</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261415760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The leaks regarding the 2011 Mustang GT's (the V8 model) engine specs have the previous 315hp engine being replaced with a 412hp engine.  It'll still get about 24mpg highway though.  On the other hand, the V6's 210hp engine is being replaced by a 305hp model 2011.  And get this, going from 16/24mpg to 19/30mpg.  (Those numbers reflect the automatic transmision model.)</p><p>As for GM, it was the reintroduced 2010 Camaro, especially the V6 model which currently has comparable numbers to the upcoming Mustang V6, that really spurred Ford on.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The leaks regarding the 2011 Mustang GT 's ( the V8 model ) engine specs have the previous 315hp engine being replaced with a 412hp engine .
It 'll still get about 24mpg highway though .
On the other hand , the V6 's 210hp engine is being replaced by a 305hp model 2011 .
And get this , going from 16/24mpg to 19/30mpg .
( Those numbers reflect the automatic transmision model .
) As for GM , it was the reintroduced 2010 Camaro , especially the V6 model which currently has comparable numbers to the upcoming Mustang V6 , that really spurred Ford on .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The leaks regarding the 2011 Mustang GT's (the V8 model) engine specs have the previous 315hp engine being replaced with a 412hp engine.
It'll still get about 24mpg highway though.
On the other hand, the V6's 210hp engine is being replaced by a 305hp model 2011.
And get this, going from 16/24mpg to 19/30mpg.
(Those numbers reflect the automatic transmision model.
)As for GM, it was the reintroduced 2010 Camaro, especially the V6 model which currently has comparable numbers to the upcoming Mustang V6, that really spurred Ford on.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30524612</id>
	<title>good, bad, and ugly</title>
	<author>DriveDog</author>
	<datestamp>1261501980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I dislike environmental destruction more than most here, I would wager, yet hate to see the complete demise of what was a truly great design. Which brings me to a major complaint about GM, Ford, the old ChryCo, etc. They don't do niche products. If they can't figure out how to profit from producing several hundred thousand of something a year for a decade, they tend to quit considering it. Why not produce a trickle of those engines, certainly to be bought, at slightly higher prices? Tooling, etc. is already paid for, so only the variable costs remain. It would be different if they were pushing it aside to use the resources on something else, but they're obviously not. Other complaints? Big block in a Corvair? What, for wheelstands? AFAIK there was no such thing, outside of possibly a prototype. Produced for over 50 years? What? No, the Mark IV, originally 396 cubic inches, was introduced in 1965 (later produced in larger displacements: 402, 427, 454, 502... It was NOT in the same family as the previous "big block" Chevy 348/409, introduced in the 1950s, as in "She's real fine, my 409..." Rats (427, etc.) are heavy; 409s were ridiculously massive and were mostly found in Impalas and such.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I dislike environmental destruction more than most here , I would wager , yet hate to see the complete demise of what was a truly great design .
Which brings me to a major complaint about GM , Ford , the old ChryCo , etc .
They do n't do niche products .
If they ca n't figure out how to profit from producing several hundred thousand of something a year for a decade , they tend to quit considering it .
Why not produce a trickle of those engines , certainly to be bought , at slightly higher prices ?
Tooling , etc .
is already paid for , so only the variable costs remain .
It would be different if they were pushing it aside to use the resources on something else , but they 're obviously not .
Other complaints ?
Big block in a Corvair ?
What , for wheelstands ?
AFAIK there was no such thing , outside of possibly a prototype .
Produced for over 50 years ?
What ? No , the Mark IV , originally 396 cubic inches , was introduced in 1965 ( later produced in larger displacements : 402 , 427 , 454 , 502... It was NOT in the same family as the previous " big block " Chevy 348/409 , introduced in the 1950s , as in " She 's real fine , my 409... " Rats ( 427 , etc .
) are heavy ; 409s were ridiculously massive and were mostly found in Impalas and such .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I dislike environmental destruction more than most here, I would wager, yet hate to see the complete demise of what was a truly great design.
Which brings me to a major complaint about GM, Ford, the old ChryCo, etc.
They don't do niche products.
If they can't figure out how to profit from producing several hundred thousand of something a year for a decade, they tend to quit considering it.
Why not produce a trickle of those engines, certainly to be bought, at slightly higher prices?
Tooling, etc.
is already paid for, so only the variable costs remain.
It would be different if they were pushing it aside to use the resources on something else, but they're obviously not.
Other complaints?
Big block in a Corvair?
What, for wheelstands?
AFAIK there was no such thing, outside of possibly a prototype.
Produced for over 50 years?
What? No, the Mark IV, originally 396 cubic inches, was introduced in 1965 (later produced in larger displacements: 402, 427, 454, 502... It was NOT in the same family as the previous "big block" Chevy 348/409, introduced in the 1950s, as in "She's real fine, my 409..." Rats (427, etc.
) are heavy; 409s were ridiculously massive and were mostly found in Impalas and such.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30521406</id>
	<title>Wow; that's enlightened!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261515540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You don't watch much news; Saudi Arabia has become a smaller and smaller percentage of people selling us oil; from about 85 in the "oil embargo" days of the 70's to something like 17\% now.  We get a lot more from Canada and/or Alaska, without any one country having a lion's share.</p><p>This isn't foolishness; the end of this line means that GM cars may never get back here. GM has *no*reason* to be a quality product anymore. If they start making cars out of peanut butter tomorrow, the government will still pay them.  It has to: it has to pay the unions.</p><p>Expect all sorts of disappointing, preachy cars to come out. The man in charge knows NOTHING about cars (he said so!) and so he'll make stupid little wind-up toys that we hate.  And waste billions doing it.</p><p>The government had no right to take this action. It's just another part of the swirling disaster of these times. National defense is just a political plaything, money means nothing (because they, and not us, will always be fed).</p><p>But thanks for showing us you know nothing about what's going on.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>Did you know GM, when they were taken hostage had a market-cap of Bed, Bath, and Beyond?  GM's not done so well, since the unions made their demands. With 700,000 people on the payroll, and 100,000 actually working, they have a problem.</p><p>I think it was August of last year, Toyota and GM made the same number of cars. (to the nearest 1/10th million) Toyota made something like 27 billion, and GM LOST 37 billion.</p><p>Can you imagine it losing MORE money? Glad I didn't invest...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You do n't watch much news ; Saudi Arabia has become a smaller and smaller percentage of people selling us oil ; from about 85 in the " oil embargo " days of the 70 's to something like 17 \ % now .
We get a lot more from Canada and/or Alaska , without any one country having a lion 's share.This is n't foolishness ; the end of this line means that GM cars may never get back here .
GM has * no * reason * to be a quality product anymore .
If they start making cars out of peanut butter tomorrow , the government will still pay them .
It has to : it has to pay the unions.Expect all sorts of disappointing , preachy cars to come out .
The man in charge knows NOTHING about cars ( he said so !
) and so he 'll make stupid little wind-up toys that we hate .
And waste billions doing it.The government had no right to take this action .
It 's just another part of the swirling disaster of these times .
National defense is just a political plaything , money means nothing ( because they , and not us , will always be fed ) .But thanks for showing us you know nothing about what 's going on .
: ) Did you know GM , when they were taken hostage had a market-cap of Bed , Bath , and Beyond ?
GM 's not done so well , since the unions made their demands .
With 700,000 people on the payroll , and 100,000 actually working , they have a problem.I think it was August of last year , Toyota and GM made the same number of cars .
( to the nearest 1/10th million ) Toyota made something like 27 billion , and GM LOST 37 billion.Can you imagine it losing MORE money ?
Glad I did n't invest.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You don't watch much news; Saudi Arabia has become a smaller and smaller percentage of people selling us oil; from about 85 in the "oil embargo" days of the 70's to something like 17\% now.
We get a lot more from Canada and/or Alaska, without any one country having a lion's share.This isn't foolishness; the end of this line means that GM cars may never get back here.
GM has *no*reason* to be a quality product anymore.
If they start making cars out of peanut butter tomorrow, the government will still pay them.
It has to: it has to pay the unions.Expect all sorts of disappointing, preachy cars to come out.
The man in charge knows NOTHING about cars (he said so!
) and so he'll make stupid little wind-up toys that we hate.
And waste billions doing it.The government had no right to take this action.
It's just another part of the swirling disaster of these times.
National defense is just a political plaything, money means nothing (because they, and not us, will always be fed).But thanks for showing us you know nothing about what's going on.
:)Did you know GM, when they were taken hostage had a market-cap of Bed, Bath, and Beyond?
GM's not done so well, since the unions made their demands.
With 700,000 people on the payroll, and 100,000 actually working, they have a problem.I think it was August of last year, Toyota and GM made the same number of cars.
(to the nearest 1/10th million) Toyota made something like 27 billion, and GM LOST 37 billion.Can you imagine it losing MORE money?
Glad I didn't invest...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30520442</id>
	<title>sniffle</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261416720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Good bye old friend</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Good bye old friend</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Good bye old friend</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30520500</id>
	<title>Re:the joy's of running a big block</title>
	<author>afidel</author>
	<datestamp>1261417440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>The engine being retired made 450HP which Ford is making with a midsized V-6 (ok only 415, but still). The Ford V6 is almost half the weight (449 lbs vs 734). Ok it's apples and bananas since one's a big truck V8 optimized for torque and the other's a race car V6 with twin turbochargers, but the point remains that old technology is old and there's very little need for 8.1L gas engine.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The engine being retired made 450HP which Ford is making with a midsized V-6 ( ok only 415 , but still ) .
The Ford V6 is almost half the weight ( 449 lbs vs 734 ) .
Ok it 's apples and bananas since one 's a big truck V8 optimized for torque and the other 's a race car V6 with twin turbochargers , but the point remains that old technology is old and there 's very little need for 8.1L gas engine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The engine being retired made 450HP which Ford is making with a midsized V-6 (ok only 415, but still).
The Ford V6 is almost half the weight (449 lbs vs 734).
Ok it's apples and bananas since one's a big truck V8 optimized for torque and the other's a race car V6 with twin turbochargers, but the point remains that old technology is old and there's very little need for 8.1L gas engine.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30520216</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30522412</id>
	<title>Cundallini still wants his hand back</title>
	<author>gatkinso</author>
	<datestamp>1261487280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>....last of the V-8 interceptors.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>....last of the V-8 interceptors .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>....last of the V-8 interceptors.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30531458</id>
	<title>The result of idiot, moron, democrat legislation!!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261489620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The result of idiot, moron, democrat legislation and FAKE global warming data!!!!</p><p>Impeach ALL democrats!!!!!</p><p>DO NOT buy from GM (Government Motors)!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The result of idiot , moron , democrat legislation and FAKE global warming data ! ! !
! Impeach ALL democrats ! ! ! !
! DO NOT buy from GM ( Government Motors ) !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The result of idiot, moron, democrat legislation and FAKE global warming data!!!
!Impeach ALL democrats!!!!
!DO NOT buy from GM (Government Motors)!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30520210</id>
	<title>Mad max</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261414260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Crazy mechanic to mad max:<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...last of the V8s. Piece of history.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Crazy mechanic to mad max : ...last of the V8s .
Piece of history .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Crazy mechanic to mad max: ...last of the V8s.
Piece of history.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30525784</id>
	<title>Re:At least 10 years too late.</title>
	<author>metalligoth</author>
	<datestamp>1261507740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>People that make comments like this typically have no concept of how automotive engineering works or how long it takes to design cars on existing platforms, let alone new technologies and architectures. GM, Daimler, Chrysler, and BMW have had a joint R &amp; D centre set up for a LONG time now in Troy, Michigan where they have been developing hybrids. While Honda and Toyota may have beat them to market on a couple models, nobody is as pervasive as the Detroit Three when it comes to the variety of hybrid vehicles offered today, and they're just getting started. Looking at the average lead time to get a vehicle on the road, can you imagine the cars we'll have in ten years now that Detroit is even more desperate now than they were in 2000 for a green image makeover?
</p><p>
Your comment that "it took near bankruptcy" for GM to switch to green technology is patently false, though. This transition has been going on for longer than you'd imagine - since before "Who Killed The Electric Car", since way before the Iraq war and the subsequent spike in gas prices, and since way way before these recent auto industry troubles. Engineering doesn't happen overnight. These are still some of the biggest organizations in the world, and with good reason - with pooled resources they are even more efficient than they would be as hundreds of small outfits. That said, while they are more agile than they have ever been, being agile in automotive means taking a few years to do something new rather than a couple decades. If you can do better, I invite you to become a Henry Ford - start your own auto company and see how difficult it is. Tesla has been experiencing this firsthand - automotive is lightyears more difficult than they anticipated or expected.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>People that make comments like this typically have no concept of how automotive engineering works or how long it takes to design cars on existing platforms , let alone new technologies and architectures .
GM , Daimler , Chrysler , and BMW have had a joint R &amp; D centre set up for a LONG time now in Troy , Michigan where they have been developing hybrids .
While Honda and Toyota may have beat them to market on a couple models , nobody is as pervasive as the Detroit Three when it comes to the variety of hybrid vehicles offered today , and they 're just getting started .
Looking at the average lead time to get a vehicle on the road , can you imagine the cars we 'll have in ten years now that Detroit is even more desperate now than they were in 2000 for a green image makeover ?
Your comment that " it took near bankruptcy " for GM to switch to green technology is patently false , though .
This transition has been going on for longer than you 'd imagine - since before " Who Killed The Electric Car " , since way before the Iraq war and the subsequent spike in gas prices , and since way way before these recent auto industry troubles .
Engineering does n't happen overnight .
These are still some of the biggest organizations in the world , and with good reason - with pooled resources they are even more efficient than they would be as hundreds of small outfits .
That said , while they are more agile than they have ever been , being agile in automotive means taking a few years to do something new rather than a couple decades .
If you can do better , I invite you to become a Henry Ford - start your own auto company and see how difficult it is .
Tesla has been experiencing this firsthand - automotive is lightyears more difficult than they anticipated or expected .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People that make comments like this typically have no concept of how automotive engineering works or how long it takes to design cars on existing platforms, let alone new technologies and architectures.
GM, Daimler, Chrysler, and BMW have had a joint R &amp; D centre set up for a LONG time now in Troy, Michigan where they have been developing hybrids.
While Honda and Toyota may have beat them to market on a couple models, nobody is as pervasive as the Detroit Three when it comes to the variety of hybrid vehicles offered today, and they're just getting started.
Looking at the average lead time to get a vehicle on the road, can you imagine the cars we'll have in ten years now that Detroit is even more desperate now than they were in 2000 for a green image makeover?
Your comment that "it took near bankruptcy" for GM to switch to green technology is patently false, though.
This transition has been going on for longer than you'd imagine - since before "Who Killed The Electric Car", since way before the Iraq war and the subsequent spike in gas prices, and since way way before these recent auto industry troubles.
Engineering doesn't happen overnight.
These are still some of the biggest organizations in the world, and with good reason - with pooled resources they are even more efficient than they would be as hundreds of small outfits.
That said, while they are more agile than they have ever been, being agile in automotive means taking a few years to do something new rather than a couple decades.
If you can do better, I invite you to become a Henry Ford - start your own auto company and see how difficult it is.
Tesla has been experiencing this firsthand - automotive is lightyears more difficult than they anticipated or expected.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30521216</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30520364</id>
	<title>Re:V-8's rock</title>
	<author>afidel</author>
	<datestamp>1261415880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The 6200 has 10\% less torque and more HP for a couple hundred less pounds of weight and significantly better fuel economy.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The 6200 has 10 \ % less torque and more HP for a couple hundred less pounds of weight and significantly better fuel economy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The 6200 has 10\% less torque and more HP for a couple hundred less pounds of weight and significantly better fuel economy.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30520156</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30523010</id>
	<title>Re:I just pictured an oil sheik...</title>
	<author>budgenator</author>
	<datestamp>1261493340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The <a href="http://www.keithblack.com/racing\_generalmotors.html" title="keithblack.com">Rat Motor</a> [keithblack.com] will still live for those who really want them, just like the <a href="http://www.keithblack.com/racing\_generalmotors.html" title="keithblack.com">427 Hemi's</a> [keithblack.com] and the <a href="http://www.keithblack.com/racing\_chrysler440.html" title="keithblack.com">440 wedge</a> [keithblack.com]. For that matter you can still get <a href="http://www.can-am-cars.com/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=7&amp;idproduct=343" title="can-am-cars.com">Offenauser engine</a> [can-am-cars.com] if you have U$28,000.00 burning a hole in your pocket..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Rat Motor [ keithblack.com ] will still live for those who really want them , just like the 427 Hemi 's [ keithblack.com ] and the 440 wedge [ keithblack.com ] .
For that matter you can still get Offenauser engine [ can-am-cars.com ] if you have U $ 28,000.00 burning a hole in your pocket. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Rat Motor [keithblack.com] will still live for those who really want them, just like the 427 Hemi's [keithblack.com] and the 440 wedge [keithblack.com].
For that matter you can still get Offenauser engine [can-am-cars.com] if you have U$28,000.00 burning a hole in your pocket..</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30520694</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30520340</id>
	<title>turn the page</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261415640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm old enough to appreciate the value of a piece of tech that has served so well for so long.  Likewise, I have a soft spot for the land-line and the command line.  But there are pleasurable vices that we simply can't afford to cling to, and the big petrol-burning engine is one of them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm old enough to appreciate the value of a piece of tech that has served so well for so long .
Likewise , I have a soft spot for the land-line and the command line .
But there are pleasurable vices that we simply ca n't afford to cling to , and the big petrol-burning engine is one of them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm old enough to appreciate the value of a piece of tech that has served so well for so long.
Likewise, I have a soft spot for the land-line and the command line.
But there are pleasurable vices that we simply can't afford to cling to, and the big petrol-burning engine is one of them.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30520694</id>
	<title>Re:I just pictured an oil sheik...</title>
	<author>bennomatic</author>
	<datestamp>1261419900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I pictured a paraplegic mechanic saying, "She's a real beaut!  Last of the V8's!  Woulda been a shame to blow 'er up..."</htmltext>
<tokenext>I pictured a paraplegic mechanic saying , " She 's a real beaut !
Last of the V8 's !
Woulda been a shame to blow 'er up... "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I pictured a paraplegic mechanic saying, "She's a real beaut!
Last of the V8's!
Woulda been a shame to blow 'er up..."</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30519988</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30519988</id>
	<title>I just pictured an oil sheik...</title>
	<author>istartedi</author>
	<datestamp>1261412400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...with a single tear running down his face.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...with a single tear running down his face .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...with a single tear running down his face.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30525298</id>
	<title>Can't believe I'm the First With This Obvious Joke</title>
	<author>pky666</author>
	<datestamp>1261505160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I guess everyone who missed out on buying a vehicle with this engine will be slapping themselves in the head after their next purchase and saying...

<p>I COULD HAVE HAD A V8!!!
</p><p>(Sorry, it had to be said eventually<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I guess everyone who missed out on buying a vehicle with this engine will be slapping themselves in the head after their next purchase and saying.. . I COULD HAVE HAD A V8 ! ! !
( Sorry , it had to be said eventually ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I guess everyone who missed out on buying a vehicle with this engine will be slapping themselves in the head after their next purchase and saying...

I COULD HAVE HAD A V8!!!
(Sorry, it had to be said eventually ;)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30520626</id>
	<title>I just pictured kdawson...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261419180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...with several tears running down his face.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...with several tears running down his face .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...with several tears running down his face.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30519988</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30532850</id>
	<title>Re:I just pictured an oil sheik...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261507020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If demand drops, too easy, just reduce production and watch the prices jump up again! So I think you pictured wrong<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If demand drops , too easy , just reduce production and watch the prices jump up again !
So I think you pictured wrong ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If demand drops, too easy, just reduce production and watch the prices jump up again!
So I think you pictured wrong ;)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30519988</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30522618</id>
	<title>No, you are..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261489380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...doing it wrong.</p><p>Q: should be in the subject line.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...doing it wrong.Q : should be in the subject line .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...doing it wrong.Q: should be in the subject line.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30520238</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30522276</id>
	<title>Re:I just pictured an oil sheik...</title>
	<author>TeknoHog</author>
	<datestamp>1261484520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
That's a good one.
</p><p>
No, wait, that's a bedouin.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's a good one .
No , wait , that 's a bedouin .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
That's a good one.
No, wait, that's a bedouin.
</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30519988</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30519990</id>
	<title>Innovation!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261412400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It sounds like this is the result of innovation? I imagine that these "big-block" engines will be replaced by smaller-block V8s or perhaps more powerful V6s that have similar performance?</p><p>The only bad part of this is some people are going to lose their jobs (according to <a href="http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jKPgfyLt3V825u9DQOIX43JUQrFAD9CLSDOG0" title="google.com">the AP</a> [google.com]).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It sounds like this is the result of innovation ?
I imagine that these " big-block " engines will be replaced by smaller-block V8s or perhaps more powerful V6s that have similar performance ? The only bad part of this is some people are going to lose their jobs ( according to the AP [ google.com ] ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It sounds like this is the result of innovation?
I imagine that these "big-block" engines will be replaced by smaller-block V8s or perhaps more powerful V6s that have similar performance?The only bad part of this is some people are going to lose their jobs (according to the AP [google.com]).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30523408</id>
	<title>5 million?</title>
	<author>booch</author>
	<datestamp>1261496040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That number doesn't sound right. That's only 100,000 per year. GM sells like 4 million cars per year. I would think that back in its heyday, they would have been selling close to 1 million big blocks a year. The article says that this 1 plant produced 5 million L18s. I suspect that there were other plants once producing big block engines.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That number does n't sound right .
That 's only 100,000 per year .
GM sells like 4 million cars per year .
I would think that back in its heyday , they would have been selling close to 1 million big blocks a year .
The article says that this 1 plant produced 5 million L18s .
I suspect that there were other plants once producing big block engines .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That number doesn't sound right.
That's only 100,000 per year.
GM sells like 4 million cars per year.
I would think that back in its heyday, they would have been selling close to 1 million big blocks a year.
The article says that this 1 plant produced 5 million L18s.
I suspect that there were other plants once producing big block engines.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30522186</id>
	<title>Almost there</title>
	<author>Trizicus</author>
	<datestamp>1261483320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It would be great to see this company fall under. Their products are not worth buying hence the reason why the V8 is gone. Honda and Toyota all the way!</htmltext>
<tokenext>It would be great to see this company fall under .
Their products are not worth buying hence the reason why the V8 is gone .
Honda and Toyota all the way !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It would be great to see this company fall under.
Their products are not worth buying hence the reason why the V8 is gone.
Honda and Toyota all the way!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30523334</id>
	<title>Re:At least 10 years too late.</title>
	<author>maxume</author>
	<datestamp>1261495680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There was nothing 'near' about the bankruptcy that GM went through.</p><p>And their problem was financing their employees, not their lineup and technology (sure, they had 6 months of really hairy inventory when oil spiked in 2008, but the problem in 2009 was that people weren't buying vehicles, not that people weren't buying GM vehicles).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There was nothing 'near ' about the bankruptcy that GM went through.And their problem was financing their employees , not their lineup and technology ( sure , they had 6 months of really hairy inventory when oil spiked in 2008 , but the problem in 2009 was that people were n't buying vehicles , not that people were n't buying GM vehicles ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There was nothing 'near' about the bankruptcy that GM went through.And their problem was financing their employees, not their lineup and technology (sure, they had 6 months of really hairy inventory when oil spiked in 2008, but the problem in 2009 was that people weren't buying vehicles, not that people weren't buying GM vehicles).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30521216</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30520156</id>
	<title>V-8's rock</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261413840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's fine if these engines are being killed because something better (as powerful with better efficiency) has come along. If not, it sucks.</p><p>To see which it is, just take a look at Ford Motor Company - you know, the one that ISN'T owned by the government!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)</p><p>BTW, regardless diesel engines rock!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p><p>
Once again, FUBO! =:-D</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's fine if these engines are being killed because something better ( as powerful with better efficiency ) has come along .
If not , it sucks.To see which it is , just take a look at Ford Motor Company - you know , the one that IS N'T owned by the government !
; - ) BTW , regardless diesel engines rock !
: - ) Once again , FUBO !
= : -D</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's fine if these engines are being killed because something better (as powerful with better efficiency) has come along.
If not, it sucks.To see which it is, just take a look at Ford Motor Company - you know, the one that ISN'T owned by the government!
;-)BTW, regardless diesel engines rock!
:-)
Once again, FUBO!
=:-D</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30520544</id>
	<title>DNS-and-BIND is a copypasta Jew</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261418040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>DNS-and-BIND's screeds are so rife with ignorance, erroneous information, and poorly conceived notions of denominationalism that I hardly know where to begin. Even disregarding obvious errors like his insistence that the most valuable skill one can have is the ability to lie convincingly, the fallacies of his claims are glaring to those of us who have educated ourselves about the implications of alcoholism. I assume you already know that he doesn't care much for airy-fairy things such as morality and integrity, but I have something more important to tell you. The fact is, ever since DNS-and-BIND decided to make us too confused, demoralized, and disunited to put up an effective opposition to his propositions, his consistent, unvarying line has been that he can absorb mana by devouring his nemeses' brains. He looks down upon the rest of us. From DNS-and-BIND's perspective, we are blind so he must tell us what to see; we are deaf so he must tell us what to hear; and we are mute so he must tell us what to say. Such views may fool acrimonious roustabouts, but I aver that DNS-and-BIND just reported that it is not only acceptable but indeed desirable to pervert human instincts by suppressing natural, feral constraints and encouraging abnormal patterns of behavior. Do you think that that's merely sloppy reporting on DNS-and-BIND's part? I don't. I think that it's a deliberate attempt to promote, foster, and institute adversarialism.</p><p>By using bombastic language and selective quotation, DNS-and-BIND is able to promote vapid ideologies such as misoneism. Sounds pretty disorganized, doesn't it? But is it any more so than his vicious wheelings and dealings? In case you have any doubts, some people have indicated that he has a morbid fascination with all that is inferior, debased, deformed, unsympathetic, and deceitful. I can neither confirm nor deny that statement, but I can say that if DNS-and-BIND manages to lionize irritating, pathetic pinheads, our nation will not endure as a civilization, as a geopolitical entity, or even as a society. Rather, it will exist only as a prison, a prison in which termagant wackos meddle in everyone else's affairs.</p><p>But it gets much worse than that. As I've said in the past, DNS-and-BIND seeks scapegoats for his own shortcomings by blaming the easiest target he can find, that is, the worst kinds of manipulative, ostentatious warlords I've ever seen. I correctly predicted that he would leave us in the lurch. Alas, I didn't think he'd do that so effectively&mdash;or so soon. I don't have time to go into this in as much detail as I should, but if DNS-and-BIND's admirers had even an ounce of integrity they would reinforce what is best in people. What's the best way to oust DNS-and-BIND and his ophidian, flippant stooges, who are legion, from anywhere we find them making my blood curdle? That's actually a tough nut to crack. The answer is related the way that we must overcome the fears that beset us every day of our lives. We must overcome the fear that DNS-and-BIND will offer hatred with an intellectual gloss. And to overcome these fears, we must urge lawmakers to pass a nonbinding resolution affirming that DNS-and-BIND may be engaged in extortion, racketeering, and/or money laundering.</p><p>With friends like DNS-and-BIND, who needs enemies? I mean, nothing unites people like a common enemy. That's why I would encourage everybody to take some shots of their own at DNS-and-BIND by reprimanding him for preventing me from sleeping soundly at night. He craves more power. I say we should give DNS-and-BIND more power&mdash;preferably, 10,000 volts of it.</p><p>Although the dialectics of mentally deficient praxis will formulate social policies and action programs based on the most quarrelsome sorts of fascism in existence in the near future, mutinous segregationists, motivated by either McCarthyism or a desire to lead a pernicious, uneducated life, are eager to help DNS-and-BIND alter laws, language, and customs in the service of regulating social relations. But it goes further than that; if he w</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>DNS-and-BIND 's screeds are so rife with ignorance , erroneous information , and poorly conceived notions of denominationalism that I hardly know where to begin .
Even disregarding obvious errors like his insistence that the most valuable skill one can have is the ability to lie convincingly , the fallacies of his claims are glaring to those of us who have educated ourselves about the implications of alcoholism .
I assume you already know that he does n't care much for airy-fairy things such as morality and integrity , but I have something more important to tell you .
The fact is , ever since DNS-and-BIND decided to make us too confused , demoralized , and disunited to put up an effective opposition to his propositions , his consistent , unvarying line has been that he can absorb mana by devouring his nemeses ' brains .
He looks down upon the rest of us .
From DNS-and-BIND 's perspective , we are blind so he must tell us what to see ; we are deaf so he must tell us what to hear ; and we are mute so he must tell us what to say .
Such views may fool acrimonious roustabouts , but I aver that DNS-and-BIND just reported that it is not only acceptable but indeed desirable to pervert human instincts by suppressing natural , feral constraints and encouraging abnormal patterns of behavior .
Do you think that that 's merely sloppy reporting on DNS-and-BIND 's part ?
I do n't .
I think that it 's a deliberate attempt to promote , foster , and institute adversarialism.By using bombastic language and selective quotation , DNS-and-BIND is able to promote vapid ideologies such as misoneism .
Sounds pretty disorganized , does n't it ?
But is it any more so than his vicious wheelings and dealings ?
In case you have any doubts , some people have indicated that he has a morbid fascination with all that is inferior , debased , deformed , unsympathetic , and deceitful .
I can neither confirm nor deny that statement , but I can say that if DNS-and-BIND manages to lionize irritating , pathetic pinheads , our nation will not endure as a civilization , as a geopolitical entity , or even as a society .
Rather , it will exist only as a prison , a prison in which termagant wackos meddle in everyone else 's affairs.But it gets much worse than that .
As I 've said in the past , DNS-and-BIND seeks scapegoats for his own shortcomings by blaming the easiest target he can find , that is , the worst kinds of manipulative , ostentatious warlords I 've ever seen .
I correctly predicted that he would leave us in the lurch .
Alas , I did n't think he 'd do that so effectively    or so soon .
I do n't have time to go into this in as much detail as I should , but if DNS-and-BIND 's admirers had even an ounce of integrity they would reinforce what is best in people .
What 's the best way to oust DNS-and-BIND and his ophidian , flippant stooges , who are legion , from anywhere we find them making my blood curdle ?
That 's actually a tough nut to crack .
The answer is related the way that we must overcome the fears that beset us every day of our lives .
We must overcome the fear that DNS-and-BIND will offer hatred with an intellectual gloss .
And to overcome these fears , we must urge lawmakers to pass a nonbinding resolution affirming that DNS-and-BIND may be engaged in extortion , racketeering , and/or money laundering.With friends like DNS-and-BIND , who needs enemies ?
I mean , nothing unites people like a common enemy .
That 's why I would encourage everybody to take some shots of their own at DNS-and-BIND by reprimanding him for preventing me from sleeping soundly at night .
He craves more power .
I say we should give DNS-and-BIND more power    preferably , 10,000 volts of it.Although the dialectics of mentally deficient praxis will formulate social policies and action programs based on the most quarrelsome sorts of fascism in existence in the near future , mutinous segregationists , motivated by either McCarthyism or a desire to lead a pernicious , uneducated life , are eager to help DNS-and-BIND alter laws , language , and customs in the service of regulating social relations .
But it goes further than that ; if he w</tokentext>
<sentencetext>DNS-and-BIND's screeds are so rife with ignorance, erroneous information, and poorly conceived notions of denominationalism that I hardly know where to begin.
Even disregarding obvious errors like his insistence that the most valuable skill one can have is the ability to lie convincingly, the fallacies of his claims are glaring to those of us who have educated ourselves about the implications of alcoholism.
I assume you already know that he doesn't care much for airy-fairy things such as morality and integrity, but I have something more important to tell you.
The fact is, ever since DNS-and-BIND decided to make us too confused, demoralized, and disunited to put up an effective opposition to his propositions, his consistent, unvarying line has been that he can absorb mana by devouring his nemeses' brains.
He looks down upon the rest of us.
From DNS-and-BIND's perspective, we are blind so he must tell us what to see; we are deaf so he must tell us what to hear; and we are mute so he must tell us what to say.
Such views may fool acrimonious roustabouts, but I aver that DNS-and-BIND just reported that it is not only acceptable but indeed desirable to pervert human instincts by suppressing natural, feral constraints and encouraging abnormal patterns of behavior.
Do you think that that's merely sloppy reporting on DNS-and-BIND's part?
I don't.
I think that it's a deliberate attempt to promote, foster, and institute adversarialism.By using bombastic language and selective quotation, DNS-and-BIND is able to promote vapid ideologies such as misoneism.
Sounds pretty disorganized, doesn't it?
But is it any more so than his vicious wheelings and dealings?
In case you have any doubts, some people have indicated that he has a morbid fascination with all that is inferior, debased, deformed, unsympathetic, and deceitful.
I can neither confirm nor deny that statement, but I can say that if DNS-and-BIND manages to lionize irritating, pathetic pinheads, our nation will not endure as a civilization, as a geopolitical entity, or even as a society.
Rather, it will exist only as a prison, a prison in which termagant wackos meddle in everyone else's affairs.But it gets much worse than that.
As I've said in the past, DNS-and-BIND seeks scapegoats for his own shortcomings by blaming the easiest target he can find, that is, the worst kinds of manipulative, ostentatious warlords I've ever seen.
I correctly predicted that he would leave us in the lurch.
Alas, I didn't think he'd do that so effectively—or so soon.
I don't have time to go into this in as much detail as I should, but if DNS-and-BIND's admirers had even an ounce of integrity they would reinforce what is best in people.
What's the best way to oust DNS-and-BIND and his ophidian, flippant stooges, who are legion, from anywhere we find them making my blood curdle?
That's actually a tough nut to crack.
The answer is related the way that we must overcome the fears that beset us every day of our lives.
We must overcome the fear that DNS-and-BIND will offer hatred with an intellectual gloss.
And to overcome these fears, we must urge lawmakers to pass a nonbinding resolution affirming that DNS-and-BIND may be engaged in extortion, racketeering, and/or money laundering.With friends like DNS-and-BIND, who needs enemies?
I mean, nothing unites people like a common enemy.
That's why I would encourage everybody to take some shots of their own at DNS-and-BIND by reprimanding him for preventing me from sleeping soundly at night.
He craves more power.
I say we should give DNS-and-BIND more power—preferably, 10,000 volts of it.Although the dialectics of mentally deficient praxis will formulate social policies and action programs based on the most quarrelsome sorts of fascism in existence in the near future, mutinous segregationists, motivated by either McCarthyism or a desire to lead a pernicious, uneducated life, are eager to help DNS-and-BIND alter laws, language, and customs in the service of regulating social relations.
But it goes further than that; if he w</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30531382</id>
	<title>Mad Max ref.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261488960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Last of the V8 interceptors!  (Yeah I know Max drove a Ford but I couldn't resist)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Last of the V8 interceptors !
( Yeah I know Max drove a Ford but I could n't resist )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Last of the V8 interceptors!
(Yeah I know Max drove a Ford but I couldn't resist)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30528192</id>
	<title>Re:At least 10 years too late.</title>
	<author>yurtinus</author>
	<datestamp>1261473060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Getting sick of replying to these posts in this discussion. You are way off topic. The engine they're talking about has been largely a specialty item for quite some time, built for *commercial* (and sometimes marine I spose) applications, not mainstream automobiles. Sure, people put them in their cars and trucks to go fast-- people will always do that-- and gas price really don't have much impact on them. GM has made a whole lot of mistakes to get where they are now-- this engine is barely on the radar.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Getting sick of replying to these posts in this discussion .
You are way off topic .
The engine they 're talking about has been largely a specialty item for quite some time , built for * commercial * ( and sometimes marine I spose ) applications , not mainstream automobiles .
Sure , people put them in their cars and trucks to go fast-- people will always do that-- and gas price really do n't have much impact on them .
GM has made a whole lot of mistakes to get where they are now-- this engine is barely on the radar .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Getting sick of replying to these posts in this discussion.
You are way off topic.
The engine they're talking about has been largely a specialty item for quite some time, built for *commercial* (and sometimes marine I spose) applications, not mainstream automobiles.
Sure, people put them in their cars and trucks to go fast-- people will always do that-- and gas price really don't have much impact on them.
GM has made a whole lot of mistakes to get where they are now-- this engine is barely on the radar.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30521216</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30520324</id>
	<title>Re:V-8's rock</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261415460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, diesel fuel rocks. The reason you get more mileage from them, is that there is more energy released from the fuel.</p><p>Do you know that you get almost half as much diesel as you do from regular fuel.   And that you get more mileage from a barrel of oil from gasoline rather than diesel?</p><p>Nah, probably not.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , diesel fuel rocks .
The reason you get more mileage from them , is that there is more energy released from the fuel.Do you know that you get almost half as much diesel as you do from regular fuel .
And that you get more mileage from a barrel of oil from gasoline rather than diesel ? Nah , probably not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, diesel fuel rocks.
The reason you get more mileage from them, is that there is more energy released from the fuel.Do you know that you get almost half as much diesel as you do from regular fuel.
And that you get more mileage from a barrel of oil from gasoline rather than diesel?Nah, probably not.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30520156</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30520250</id>
	<title>Smokey Yunick</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261414620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He said it best with why he closed up shop "there was no more good mechanics".  Indeed, all the best talent was interested in engine when the BBC, 385 Series(BBF), and the 440 where developed.  The tech talent moved on to stuff like stereos in the 80's and computers in the 90's.</p><p>That being said, there is still some of that star talent. The aftermarket has some serious power.<br>Production engine - 1200hp - 557ci(9.1L) Big Block Chevy - <a href="http://mercuryracing.com/sterndrives/hp1200sci.php" title="mercuryracing.com" rel="nofollow">link</a> [mercuryracing.com]<br>Custom engine - 1400hp - 600ci(9.8L) Big Block Chevy - <a href="http://youngperformancemarine.com/1200.htm" title="youngperfo...marine.com" rel="nofollow">link</a> [youngperfo...marine.com]</p><p>Those engine are built to run WOT for long periods of time.  A serious engineering and technological marvel.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He said it best with why he closed up shop " there was no more good mechanics " .
Indeed , all the best talent was interested in engine when the BBC , 385 Series ( BBF ) , and the 440 where developed .
The tech talent moved on to stuff like stereos in the 80 's and computers in the 90 's.That being said , there is still some of that star talent .
The aftermarket has some serious power.Production engine - 1200hp - 557ci ( 9.1L ) Big Block Chevy - link [ mercuryracing.com ] Custom engine - 1400hp - 600ci ( 9.8L ) Big Block Chevy - link [ youngperfo...marine.com ] Those engine are built to run WOT for long periods of time .
A serious engineering and technological marvel .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He said it best with why he closed up shop "there was no more good mechanics".
Indeed, all the best talent was interested in engine when the BBC, 385 Series(BBF), and the 440 where developed.
The tech talent moved on to stuff like stereos in the 80's and computers in the 90's.That being said, there is still some of that star talent.
The aftermarket has some serious power.Production engine - 1200hp - 557ci(9.1L) Big Block Chevy - link [mercuryracing.com]Custom engine - 1400hp - 600ci(9.8L) Big Block Chevy - link [youngperfo...marine.com]Those engine are built to run WOT for long periods of time.
A serious engineering and technological marvel.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30521890</id>
	<title>3rd party still available</title>
	<author>confused one</author>
	<datestamp>1261478700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.dartheads.com/products/engine-blocks/chevy-blocks/chevy-big-blocks/" title="dartheads.com">"Dart"</a> [dartheads.com]
<br> <br>
<a href="http://www.worldcastings.com/products/engine-blocks/big-block-chevrolet-blocks/" title="worldcastings.com">"WorldCastings"</a> [worldcastings.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Dart " [ dartheads.com ] " WorldCastings " [ worldcastings.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Dart" [dartheads.com]
 
"WorldCastings" [worldcastings.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30522886</id>
	<title>It was all about peacocking</title>
	<author>smchris</author>
	<datestamp>1261492260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Big, loud, shiny and dangerous.  Had the chance to at least ride in a well-off classmate's orange Hemi-Cuda back in the day when smoking was in and seat belts weren't.</p><p>Still have a Bonneville in name only as the back-up car.  Pathetic.  Gas mileage is too good for cash-for-clunkers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Big , loud , shiny and dangerous .
Had the chance to at least ride in a well-off classmate 's orange Hemi-Cuda back in the day when smoking was in and seat belts were n't.Still have a Bonneville in name only as the back-up car .
Pathetic. Gas mileage is too good for cash-for-clunkers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Big, loud, shiny and dangerous.
Had the chance to at least ride in a well-off classmate's orange Hemi-Cuda back in the day when smoking was in and seat belts weren't.Still have a Bonneville in name only as the back-up car.
Pathetic.  Gas mileage is too good for cash-for-clunkers.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30523920</id>
	<title>We can't eats the V6!  We must starve!</title>
	<author>weaponsfree</author>
	<datestamp>1261498860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.v8juice.com/" title="v8juice.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.v8juice.com/</a> [v8juice.com]

Gollum<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-(</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.v8juice.com/ [ v8juice.com ] Gollum : - (</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.v8juice.com/ [v8juice.com]

Gollum :-(</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30522474</id>
	<title>End of an era</title>
	<author>characterZer0</author>
	<datestamp>1261488000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is a big sign of the end of the era of user-maintainable cars.</p><p>Almost as sad as when the last VW Beetle rolled off the line in 2003 (after more than 60 years).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is a big sign of the end of the era of user-maintainable cars.Almost as sad as when the last VW Beetle rolled off the line in 2003 ( after more than 60 years ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is a big sign of the end of the era of user-maintainable cars.Almost as sad as when the last VW Beetle rolled off the line in 2003 (after more than 60 years).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30521426</id>
	<title>Re:the joy's of running a big block</title>
	<author>Swampash</author>
	<datestamp>1261472700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Newsflash: people who race cars on public roads are brainless tards and I pray that they die roasting in fiery crashes. Crashes with large inanimate objects, of course.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Newsflash : people who race cars on public roads are brainless tards and I pray that they die roasting in fiery crashes .
Crashes with large inanimate objects , of course .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Newsflash: people who race cars on public roads are brainless tards and I pray that they die roasting in fiery crashes.
Crashes with large inanimate objects, of course.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30520216</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30521462</id>
	<title>Re:V-8's rock</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261473120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No diesel engines vibrate, shake, etc... they do NOT rock.</p><p>For a while i owned a Volvo with a diesel engine. Direct injection, turbo and intercooler enough power and lots of torque... I liked it. But now I own a Saab running on liquefied petroleum gas (LPG) with liquid fuel injection, turbo and intercooler.... even more power, more torque and lower fuel cost and more environmentailly friendly (they say...) and I like it waaaayyyyy more.</p><p>The thing with most of the diesels is once you make enough revolutions to deliver some "real" power, you need to shift... petrol (or LPG) engines rev in general much higher and offer you a wider range where you can make use of the power. And with LPG knocking will come much later so you can increase the boost pressure to get even more power...<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>No way I'm going back to a smelly, vibrating, black smoke coughing diesel...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No diesel engines vibrate , shake , etc... they do NOT rock.For a while i owned a Volvo with a diesel engine .
Direct injection , turbo and intercooler enough power and lots of torque... I liked it .
But now I own a Saab running on liquefied petroleum gas ( LPG ) with liquid fuel injection , turbo and intercooler.... even more power , more torque and lower fuel cost and more environmentailly friendly ( they say... ) and I like it waaaayyyyy more.The thing with most of the diesels is once you make enough revolutions to deliver some " real " power , you need to shift... petrol ( or LPG ) engines rev in general much higher and offer you a wider range where you can make use of the power .
And with LPG knocking will come much later so you can increase the boost pressure to get even more power... : ) No way I 'm going back to a smelly , vibrating , black smoke coughing diesel.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No diesel engines vibrate, shake, etc... they do NOT rock.For a while i owned a Volvo with a diesel engine.
Direct injection, turbo and intercooler enough power and lots of torque... I liked it.
But now I own a Saab running on liquefied petroleum gas (LPG) with liquid fuel injection, turbo and intercooler.... even more power, more torque and lower fuel cost and more environmentailly friendly (they say...) and I like it waaaayyyyy more.The thing with most of the diesels is once you make enough revolutions to deliver some "real" power, you need to shift... petrol (or LPG) engines rev in general much higher and offer you a wider range where you can make use of the power.
And with LPG knocking will come much later so you can increase the boost pressure to get even more power... :)No way I'm going back to a smelly, vibrating, black smoke coughing diesel...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30520324</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_22_0113247.30520268</id>
	<title>old friend</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261414800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>good bye my old friend, you will be missed.</p><p>as a gear head, not much is more impressive than a big ol rat motor sticking out of the hood of your car. I will really miss this motor, gas hog or not</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>good bye my old friend , you will be missed.as a gear head , not much is more impressive than a big ol rat motor sticking out of the hood of your car .
I will really miss this motor , gas hog or not</tokentext>
<sentencetext>good bye my old friend, you will be missed.as a gear head, not much is more impressive than a big ol rat motor sticking out of the hood of your car.
I will really miss this motor, gas hog or not</sentencetext>
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