<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_12_21_202205</id>
	<title>New Antifreeze Molecule Isolated In Alaskan Beetle</title>
	<author>ScuttleMonkey</author>
	<datestamp>1261392240000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>Arvisp writes with the news of a <a href="http://www.redorbit.com/news/science/1799347/new\_antifreeze\_molecule\_isolated\_in\_alaska\_beetle/index.html?source=r\_science">recently discovered antifreeze molecule</a> in an Alaskan beetle that departs from most commonly identified natural antifreeze. <i>"'The most exciting part of this discovery is that this molecule is a whole new kind of antifreeze that may work in a different location of the cell and in a different way,' said zoophysiologist Brian Barnes, director of the University of Alaska Fairbanks Institute of Arctic Biology and one of five scientists who participated in the Alaska Upis ceramboides beetle project. Just as ice crystals form over ice cream left too long in a freezer, ice crystals in an insect or other organism can draw so much water out of the organism's cells that those cells die. Antifreeze molecules function to keep small ice crystals small or to prevent ice crystals from forming at all. They may help freeze-tolerant organisms survive by preventing freezing from penetrating into cells, a lethal condition. Other insects use these molecules to resist freezing by supercooling when they lower their body temperature below the freezing point without becoming solid."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>Arvisp writes with the news of a recently discovered antifreeze molecule in an Alaskan beetle that departs from most commonly identified natural antifreeze .
" 'The most exciting part of this discovery is that this molecule is a whole new kind of antifreeze that may work in a different location of the cell and in a different way, ' said zoophysiologist Brian Barnes , director of the University of Alaska Fairbanks Institute of Arctic Biology and one of five scientists who participated in the Alaska Upis ceramboides beetle project .
Just as ice crystals form over ice cream left too long in a freezer , ice crystals in an insect or other organism can draw so much water out of the organism 's cells that those cells die .
Antifreeze molecules function to keep small ice crystals small or to prevent ice crystals from forming at all .
They may help freeze-tolerant organisms survive by preventing freezing from penetrating into cells , a lethal condition .
Other insects use these molecules to resist freezing by supercooling when they lower their body temperature below the freezing point without becoming solid .
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<sentencetext>Arvisp writes with the news of a recently discovered antifreeze molecule in an Alaskan beetle that departs from most commonly identified natural antifreeze.
"'The most exciting part of this discovery is that this molecule is a whole new kind of antifreeze that may work in a different location of the cell and in a different way,' said zoophysiologist Brian Barnes, director of the University of Alaska Fairbanks Institute of Arctic Biology and one of five scientists who participated in the Alaska Upis ceramboides beetle project.
Just as ice crystals form over ice cream left too long in a freezer, ice crystals in an insect or other organism can draw so much water out of the organism's cells that those cells die.
Antifreeze molecules function to keep small ice crystals small or to prevent ice crystals from forming at all.
They may help freeze-tolerant organisms survive by preventing freezing from penetrating into cells, a lethal condition.
Other insects use these molecules to resist freezing by supercooling when they lower their body temperature below the freezing point without becoming solid.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30518210</id>
	<title>Re:YES!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261397940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I seem to recall that cold water is supposed to work better, for some reason I can't seem to think of.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I seem to recall that cold water is supposed to work better , for some reason I ca n't seem to think of .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I seem to recall that cold water is supposed to work better, for some reason I can't seem to think of.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30518766</id>
	<title>Re:New organic anti-freeze</title>
	<author>Hailth</author>
	<datestamp>1261402620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>At first when I read the title, I thought mainly the same thing. "Oh great, now there are going to be gigantic nasty farms of these beetles in order to fill every car with cheap, organic antifreeze."</p><p>The image was so horrifying... I can't think of a better place to be tortured to death than under a pile of Alaskan beetles in a beetle farm. Maybe it will happen in Saw 31.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>At first when I read the title , I thought mainly the same thing .
" Oh great , now there are going to be gigantic nasty farms of these beetles in order to fill every car with cheap , organic antifreeze .
" The image was so horrifying... I ca n't think of a better place to be tortured to death than under a pile of Alaskan beetles in a beetle farm .
Maybe it will happen in Saw 31 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At first when I read the title, I thought mainly the same thing.
"Oh great, now there are going to be gigantic nasty farms of these beetles in order to fill every car with cheap, organic antifreeze.
"The image was so horrifying... I can't think of a better place to be tortured to death than under a pile of Alaskan beetles in a beetle farm.
Maybe it will happen in Saw 31.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30518072</id>
	<title>Re:Cryogenics?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261397040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wrong, they're beyond the cell rupturing stage, but the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryopreservation#Vitrification" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">vitrification</a> [wikipedia.org] process is dependent on some rather heavily toxic chemicals. So maybe this can eventually be used for a less toxic solution.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wrong , they 're beyond the cell rupturing stage , but the vitrification [ wikipedia.org ] process is dependent on some rather heavily toxic chemicals .
So maybe this can eventually be used for a less toxic solution .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wrong, they're beyond the cell rupturing stage, but the vitrification [wikipedia.org] process is dependent on some rather heavily toxic chemicals.
So maybe this can eventually be used for a less toxic solution.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30518386</id>
	<title>Re:wait...</title>
	<author>staalmannen</author>
	<datestamp>1261399140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>In fact, plant cells have a cell membrane and a cell wall. Thanks to the cell wall, the cell membrane can only expand to a certain size (pushing towards the wall: Turgor pressure), which means that a plant cell in low-salt (destilled) water will not burst as an animal cell does.</htmltext>
<tokenext>In fact , plant cells have a cell membrane and a cell wall .
Thanks to the cell wall , the cell membrane can only expand to a certain size ( pushing towards the wall : Turgor pressure ) , which means that a plant cell in low-salt ( destilled ) water will not burst as an animal cell does .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In fact, plant cells have a cell membrane and a cell wall.
Thanks to the cell wall, the cell membrane can only expand to a certain size (pushing towards the wall: Turgor pressure), which means that a plant cell in low-salt (destilled) water will not burst as an animal cell does.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30518052</id>
	<title>Re:Cryogenics?</title>
	<author>wizardforce</author>
	<datestamp>1261396920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Rapid freezing of tissue should act in a similar fashion.  THe problem of course is being able to freeze tissue at the rate required to form the glass-like phase of ice.  I suspect that this antifreeze molecule may work in cryogenic preservation if it shows low toxicity/immune response from the host.  Something to keep in mind about frozen tissue as well is the fact that even at these extremely low temperatures, chemical reactions that degrade the sample still occur so there is a limit to how long even the most sturdy cells (like cancer cells) can be stored.  If the tissue is frozen for too long of a time, revival may prove to be unlikely or even impossible.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Rapid freezing of tissue should act in a similar fashion .
THe problem of course is being able to freeze tissue at the rate required to form the glass-like phase of ice .
I suspect that this antifreeze molecule may work in cryogenic preservation if it shows low toxicity/immune response from the host .
Something to keep in mind about frozen tissue as well is the fact that even at these extremely low temperatures , chemical reactions that degrade the sample still occur so there is a limit to how long even the most sturdy cells ( like cancer cells ) can be stored .
If the tissue is frozen for too long of a time , revival may prove to be unlikely or even impossible .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Rapid freezing of tissue should act in a similar fashion.
THe problem of course is being able to freeze tissue at the rate required to form the glass-like phase of ice.
I suspect that this antifreeze molecule may work in cryogenic preservation if it shows low toxicity/immune response from the host.
Something to keep in mind about frozen tissue as well is the fact that even at these extremely low temperatures, chemical reactions that degrade the sample still occur so there is a limit to how long even the most sturdy cells (like cancer cells) can be stored.
If the tissue is frozen for too long of a time, revival may prove to be unlikely or even impossible.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30518264</id>
	<title>Re:YES!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261398300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sticking tongues to metal posts is an important lesson in life, as is frying a motherboard installing RAM without being grounded, or rushing to class for a final only to realize you forgot to put on clothes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sticking tongues to metal posts is an important lesson in life , as is frying a motherboard installing RAM without being grounded , or rushing to class for a final only to realize you forgot to put on clothes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sticking tongues to metal posts is an important lesson in life, as is frying a motherboard installing RAM without being grounded, or rushing to class for a final only to realize you forgot to put on clothes.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30520090</id>
	<title>Re:Rather OT: Brain information storage paradox</title>
	<author>Eivind Eklund</author>
	<datestamp>1261413420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Here's something I have been thinking about recently, which relates to cryogenic freezing:</p><p>First, let's assume the brain stores memories in some form of physical structures (it sounds a stretch, but it's been theorised by some). Whether that is in RNA, or in some unknown physical property. Speaking in favour of this is certain inherited behaviour in animals - and even humans, like fear of spiders, and the ability of babies to see whether a dog is snarling or not. From the 'physical storage' perspective, producing computer networks similar to brains is theoretically very plausible - it's like cutting an unfathomably complex car in slices, gradually understanding how it works, and then building one yourself.</p><p>The problem with "physical storage" is: Some people have photographic memory of their entire lives.</p></div><p>This seems to be incorrect: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eidetic\_memory" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eidetic\_memory</a> [wikipedia.org]</p><p>Eivind.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Here 's something I have been thinking about recently , which relates to cryogenic freezing : First , let 's assume the brain stores memories in some form of physical structures ( it sounds a stretch , but it 's been theorised by some ) .
Whether that is in RNA , or in some unknown physical property .
Speaking in favour of this is certain inherited behaviour in animals - and even humans , like fear of spiders , and the ability of babies to see whether a dog is snarling or not .
From the 'physical storage ' perspective , producing computer networks similar to brains is theoretically very plausible - it 's like cutting an unfathomably complex car in slices , gradually understanding how it works , and then building one yourself.The problem with " physical storage " is : Some people have photographic memory of their entire lives.This seems to be incorrect : http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eidetic \ _memory [ wikipedia.org ] Eivind .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here's something I have been thinking about recently, which relates to cryogenic freezing:First, let's assume the brain stores memories in some form of physical structures (it sounds a stretch, but it's been theorised by some).
Whether that is in RNA, or in some unknown physical property.
Speaking in favour of this is certain inherited behaviour in animals - and even humans, like fear of spiders, and the ability of babies to see whether a dog is snarling or not.
From the 'physical storage' perspective, producing computer networks similar to brains is theoretically very plausible - it's like cutting an unfathomably complex car in slices, gradually understanding how it works, and then building one yourself.The problem with "physical storage" is: Some people have photographic memory of their entire lives.This seems to be incorrect: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eidetic\_memory [wikipedia.org]Eivind.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30518078</id>
	<title>Am I the only one...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261397100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Am I the only one that was more interested in the ice cream?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Am I the only one that was more interested in the ice cream ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Am I the only one that was more interested in the ice cream?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30518008</id>
	<title>YES!</title>
	<author>Mr.Fork</author>
	<datestamp>1261396680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Now they can develop a candy for kids in the wintertime so they can stop sticking their tongues to metal posts!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Now they can develop a candy for kids in the wintertime so they can stop sticking their tongues to metal posts !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now they can develop a candy for kids in the wintertime so they can stop sticking their tongues to metal posts!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30518094</id>
	<title>Re:Cryogenics?</title>
	<author>7Ghent</author>
	<datestamp>1261397160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Cryonics does not freeze tissue. The current method involves vitrification, not freezing. Vitrification is an ice-free process in which more than 60\% of the water inside cells is replaced with protective chemicals. This completely prevents freezing during deep cooling. Instead of freezing, molecules just move slower and slower until all chemistry stops at the glass transition temperature (approximately -124C). Unlike freezing, there is no ice formation or ice damage in vitrified tissue. Blood vessels have been reversibly vitrified, and whole kidneys have been recovered and successfully transplanted after cooling to -45C while protected with vitrification chemicals.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Cryonics does not freeze tissue .
The current method involves vitrification , not freezing .
Vitrification is an ice-free process in which more than 60 \ % of the water inside cells is replaced with protective chemicals .
This completely prevents freezing during deep cooling .
Instead of freezing , molecules just move slower and slower until all chemistry stops at the glass transition temperature ( approximately -124C ) .
Unlike freezing , there is no ice formation or ice damage in vitrified tissue .
Blood vessels have been reversibly vitrified , and whole kidneys have been recovered and successfully transplanted after cooling to -45C while protected with vitrification chemicals .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cryonics does not freeze tissue.
The current method involves vitrification, not freezing.
Vitrification is an ice-free process in which more than 60\% of the water inside cells is replaced with protective chemicals.
This completely prevents freezing during deep cooling.
Instead of freezing, molecules just move slower and slower until all chemistry stops at the glass transition temperature (approximately -124C).
Unlike freezing, there is no ice formation or ice damage in vitrified tissue.
Blood vessels have been reversibly vitrified, and whole kidneys have been recovered and successfully transplanted after cooling to -45C while protected with vitrification chemicals.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30518694</id>
	<title>Rather OT: Brain information storage paradox</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261401780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Here's something I have been thinking about recently, which relates to cryogenic freezing:</p><p>First, let's assume the brain stores memories in some form of physical structures (it sounds a stretch, but it's been theorised by some). Whether that is in RNA, or in some unknown physical property. Speaking in favour of this is certain inherited behaviour in animals - and even humans, like fear of spiders, and the ability of babies to see whether a dog is snarling or not. From the 'physical storage' perspective, producing computer networks similar to brains is theoretically very plausible - it's like cutting an unfathomably complex car in slices, gradually understanding how it works, and then building one yourself.</p><p>The problem with "physical storage" is: Some people have photographic memory of their entire lives. This is a capacity-exploder. From a traditional full motion video storage perspective, it's like 99.999\% of cars going at 1000mph, but a minority of cars going at 100,000 mph. Moreover, <b>there is no consistent physical difference between the 100,000 mph car and the 1000 mph car</b>. To me, this is an irrecoverable blow for the "physical storage" angle. Building a brain-simulation with "traditional memory" and one with "a lifetime of photographic memory" clearly would involve extreme difference in scales. That you cannot even notice or detect this difference in the physical structure of a brain is mind-boggling.</p><p>Secondly, let's assume that the brain stores information through electric activity. Perhaps some kind of fractal aspect of neural signals, or quantum storage, where "adding a signal" produces a signal that contains the full information of the previous one as well as the additional one, and trying to remember something is simply the brain trying to isolate that specific contributor to a quantum superposition. The memory-loss-inducing effect of electroshock therapy might well be a sign of this, and it would explain the unlimited storage paradox of photographic memory.</p><p>Yet if this is the case, how can cryogenic freezing work? It obviously works, because (as far as I am aware) any animal that has been frozen will still remember the location of nest, food sources etc. Freezing should end all electric signals. Gradual freezing (which is almost inevitable) should cause significant memory loss, as frozen signal recipients are unable to accept and just discard transmissions from still unfrozen transmitters.</p><p>The only crazy thoughts I have been able to come up with is that consciousness is really stored in quantum signals but compartmentalised "outside of the organic body" for animals as much as for humans, and after freezing has ended, you re-connect with those memories. Cue holographic existence, 'soul' etc.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Here 's something I have been thinking about recently , which relates to cryogenic freezing : First , let 's assume the brain stores memories in some form of physical structures ( it sounds a stretch , but it 's been theorised by some ) .
Whether that is in RNA , or in some unknown physical property .
Speaking in favour of this is certain inherited behaviour in animals - and even humans , like fear of spiders , and the ability of babies to see whether a dog is snarling or not .
From the 'physical storage ' perspective , producing computer networks similar to brains is theoretically very plausible - it 's like cutting an unfathomably complex car in slices , gradually understanding how it works , and then building one yourself.The problem with " physical storage " is : Some people have photographic memory of their entire lives .
This is a capacity-exploder .
From a traditional full motion video storage perspective , it 's like 99.999 \ % of cars going at 1000mph , but a minority of cars going at 100,000 mph .
Moreover , there is no consistent physical difference between the 100,000 mph car and the 1000 mph car .
To me , this is an irrecoverable blow for the " physical storage " angle .
Building a brain-simulation with " traditional memory " and one with " a lifetime of photographic memory " clearly would involve extreme difference in scales .
That you can not even notice or detect this difference in the physical structure of a brain is mind-boggling.Secondly , let 's assume that the brain stores information through electric activity .
Perhaps some kind of fractal aspect of neural signals , or quantum storage , where " adding a signal " produces a signal that contains the full information of the previous one as well as the additional one , and trying to remember something is simply the brain trying to isolate that specific contributor to a quantum superposition .
The memory-loss-inducing effect of electroshock therapy might well be a sign of this , and it would explain the unlimited storage paradox of photographic memory.Yet if this is the case , how can cryogenic freezing work ?
It obviously works , because ( as far as I am aware ) any animal that has been frozen will still remember the location of nest , food sources etc .
Freezing should end all electric signals .
Gradual freezing ( which is almost inevitable ) should cause significant memory loss , as frozen signal recipients are unable to accept and just discard transmissions from still unfrozen transmitters.The only crazy thoughts I have been able to come up with is that consciousness is really stored in quantum signals but compartmentalised " outside of the organic body " for animals as much as for humans , and after freezing has ended , you re-connect with those memories .
Cue holographic existence , 'soul ' etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here's something I have been thinking about recently, which relates to cryogenic freezing:First, let's assume the brain stores memories in some form of physical structures (it sounds a stretch, but it's been theorised by some).
Whether that is in RNA, or in some unknown physical property.
Speaking in favour of this is certain inherited behaviour in animals - and even humans, like fear of spiders, and the ability of babies to see whether a dog is snarling or not.
From the 'physical storage' perspective, producing computer networks similar to brains is theoretically very plausible - it's like cutting an unfathomably complex car in slices, gradually understanding how it works, and then building one yourself.The problem with "physical storage" is: Some people have photographic memory of their entire lives.
This is a capacity-exploder.
From a traditional full motion video storage perspective, it's like 99.999\% of cars going at 1000mph, but a minority of cars going at 100,000 mph.
Moreover, there is no consistent physical difference between the 100,000 mph car and the 1000 mph car.
To me, this is an irrecoverable blow for the "physical storage" angle.
Building a brain-simulation with "traditional memory" and one with "a lifetime of photographic memory" clearly would involve extreme difference in scales.
That you cannot even notice or detect this difference in the physical structure of a brain is mind-boggling.Secondly, let's assume that the brain stores information through electric activity.
Perhaps some kind of fractal aspect of neural signals, or quantum storage, where "adding a signal" produces a signal that contains the full information of the previous one as well as the additional one, and trying to remember something is simply the brain trying to isolate that specific contributor to a quantum superposition.
The memory-loss-inducing effect of electroshock therapy might well be a sign of this, and it would explain the unlimited storage paradox of photographic memory.Yet if this is the case, how can cryogenic freezing work?
It obviously works, because (as far as I am aware) any animal that has been frozen will still remember the location of nest, food sources etc.
Freezing should end all electric signals.
Gradual freezing (which is almost inevitable) should cause significant memory loss, as frozen signal recipients are unable to accept and just discard transmissions from still unfrozen transmitters.The only crazy thoughts I have been able to come up with is that consciousness is really stored in quantum signals but compartmentalised "outside of the organic body" for animals as much as for humans, and after freezing has ended, you re-connect with those memories.
Cue holographic existence, 'soul' etc.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30518228</id>
	<title>Re:wait...</title>
	<author>MozeeToby</author>
	<datestamp>1261398000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"so the ice would burst out of the cell ravaging the cell <b>membranes</b> and everything else at the same time."  Plants have cell walls, animals have cell membranes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" so the ice would burst out of the cell ravaging the cell membranes and everything else at the same time .
" Plants have cell walls , animals have cell membranes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"so the ice would burst out of the cell ravaging the cell membranes and everything else at the same time.
"  Plants have cell walls, animals have cell membranes.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30518164</id>
	<title>Small ice crystals are</title>
	<author>ChenLiWay</author>
	<datestamp>1261397580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>small</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>small</tokentext>
<sentencetext>small</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30520454</id>
	<title>Pardon me, have you any Grey Molecules?</title>
	<author>SEWilco</author>
	<datestamp>1261416780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Other insects use these molecules</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
"Hi, can I use your molecules for several months?"</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Other insects use these molecules " Hi , can I use your molecules for several months ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Other insects use these molecules

"Hi, can I use your molecules for several months?
"
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30517940</id>
	<title>Cryogenics?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261396200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Could this discovery be developed to make cryogenically preserving people work? As it is right now, the cells rupture during the freezing process -- if the cells remained intact, reviving them would become possible.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Could this discovery be developed to make cryogenically preserving people work ?
As it is right now , the cells rupture during the freezing process -- if the cells remained intact , reviving them would become possible .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Could this discovery be developed to make cryogenically preserving people work?
As it is right now, the cells rupture during the freezing process -- if the cells remained intact, reviving them would become possible.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30527328</id>
	<title>Re:YES!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261513560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not as hard as you might think (if you're a man), just messy. With the right technique it's easy to shoot a short burst of piss upwards from a standing position to well over your own height...uh, better post anon *click*</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not as hard as you might think ( if you 're a man ) , just messy .
With the right technique it 's easy to shoot a short burst of piss upwards from a standing position to well over your own height...uh , better post anon * click *</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not as hard as you might think (if you're a man), just messy.
With the right technique it's easy to shoot a short burst of piss upwards from a standing position to well over your own height...uh, better post anon *click*</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30524628</id>
	<title>Re:Cryogenics?</title>
	<author>ElizabethGreene</author>
	<datestamp>1261502040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; Could this discovery be developed to make cryogenically preserving people work?</p><p>No, but it is another step in that direction.</p><p>&gt; As it is right now, the cells rupture during the freezing process</p><p>This isn't completely correct.  The current state of the art causes significant dehydration of cells, and very few of them actually rupture during freezing.  With vitrification, this damage is reduced even further as tissues become super-viscuous (like glass) instead of freezing.</p><p>The $64,000 problem with working cryopreservation today is Cryoprotectant toxicity.  The chemicals that make it feasible to vitrify tissue are toxic at high temperatures.</p><p>Interesting reading on this topic (not linkspam.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:D )<br><a href="http://www.21cm.com/" title="21cm.com">http://www.21cm.com/</a> [21cm.com]<br><a href="http://benbest.com/cryonics/cryonics.html" title="benbest.com">http://benbest.com/cryonics/cryonics.html</a> [benbest.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; Could this discovery be developed to make cryogenically preserving people work ? No , but it is another step in that direction. &gt; As it is right now , the cells rupture during the freezing processThis is n't completely correct .
The current state of the art causes significant dehydration of cells , and very few of them actually rupture during freezing .
With vitrification , this damage is reduced even further as tissues become super-viscuous ( like glass ) instead of freezing.The $ 64,000 problem with working cryopreservation today is Cryoprotectant toxicity .
The chemicals that make it feasible to vitrify tissue are toxic at high temperatures.Interesting reading on this topic ( not linkspam .
: D ) http : //www.21cm.com/ [ 21cm.com ] http : //benbest.com/cryonics/cryonics.html [ benbest.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; Could this discovery be developed to make cryogenically preserving people work?No, but it is another step in that direction.&gt; As it is right now, the cells rupture during the freezing processThis isn't completely correct.
The current state of the art causes significant dehydration of cells, and very few of them actually rupture during freezing.
With vitrification, this damage is reduced even further as tissues become super-viscuous (like glass) instead of freezing.The $64,000 problem with working cryopreservation today is Cryoprotectant toxicity.
The chemicals that make it feasible to vitrify tissue are toxic at high temperatures.Interesting reading on this topic (not linkspam.
:D )http://www.21cm.com/ [21cm.com]http://benbest.com/cryonics/cryonics.html [benbest.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30518544</id>
	<title>Re:YES!</title>
	<author>canajin56</author>
	<datestamp>1261400340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The most commonly offered reason (that hot water freezes faster than cold water) is that the rate of evaporation increases with water temperature, and so the evaporative cooling effect is stronger for hot water than it is for cold, so hot water gets cold faster.  But that's a dumb reason, since while true, the rate wouldn't be fixed there, it would stay proportional to the temperature, so when the hot water had cooled to the same temperature as your cold water, its rate of evaporation would be the same, and thus from that point on, it would cool at the same rate.  The less commonly offered reason is that in that extra time, more water would have evaporated away, and therefore while the cooling rate would be the same, the size of the object would be smaller, so it would cool faster.  This is true, but beside the point.  It takes a long time for hot water to cool to room temperature, and the time shaved by not having to cool that extra 2 mL of water will be absolutely dominated by the extra cooling time over all.  Try it for yourself!</htmltext>
<tokenext>The most commonly offered reason ( that hot water freezes faster than cold water ) is that the rate of evaporation increases with water temperature , and so the evaporative cooling effect is stronger for hot water than it is for cold , so hot water gets cold faster .
But that 's a dumb reason , since while true , the rate would n't be fixed there , it would stay proportional to the temperature , so when the hot water had cooled to the same temperature as your cold water , its rate of evaporation would be the same , and thus from that point on , it would cool at the same rate .
The less commonly offered reason is that in that extra time , more water would have evaporated away , and therefore while the cooling rate would be the same , the size of the object would be smaller , so it would cool faster .
This is true , but beside the point .
It takes a long time for hot water to cool to room temperature , and the time shaved by not having to cool that extra 2 mL of water will be absolutely dominated by the extra cooling time over all .
Try it for yourself !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The most commonly offered reason (that hot water freezes faster than cold water) is that the rate of evaporation increases with water temperature, and so the evaporative cooling effect is stronger for hot water than it is for cold, so hot water gets cold faster.
But that's a dumb reason, since while true, the rate wouldn't be fixed there, it would stay proportional to the temperature, so when the hot water had cooled to the same temperature as your cold water, its rate of evaporation would be the same, and thus from that point on, it would cool at the same rate.
The less commonly offered reason is that in that extra time, more water would have evaporated away, and therefore while the cooling rate would be the same, the size of the object would be smaller, so it would cool faster.
This is true, but beside the point.
It takes a long time for hot water to cool to room temperature, and the time shaved by not having to cool that extra 2 mL of water will be absolutely dominated by the extra cooling time over all.
Try it for yourself!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30517908</id>
	<title>I for one...</title>
	<author>quangdog</author>
	<datestamp>1261395960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I, for one, welcome our new anti-frozen overlords.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I , for one , welcome our new anti-frozen overlords .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I, for one, welcome our new anti-frozen overlords.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30518664</id>
	<title>air-cooled</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261401480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I believe the Beetle (at least the real type 1) was air-cooled, so it did not contain any antifreeze.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I believe the Beetle ( at least the real type 1 ) was air-cooled , so it did not contain any antifreeze .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I believe the Beetle (at least the real type 1) was air-cooled, so it did not contain any antifreeze.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30518300</id>
	<title>Re:Cryogenics?</title>
	<author>Hatta</author>
	<datestamp>1261398540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, nothing here would cause cryogenics to become economically viable.  What motivation would future generations have to unthaw you? They already have your money.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , nothing here would cause cryogenics to become economically viable .
What motivation would future generations have to unthaw you ?
They already have your money .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, nothing here would cause cryogenics to become economically viable.
What motivation would future generations have to unthaw you?
They already have your money.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30518136</id>
	<title>Re:wait...</title>
	<author>wizardforce</author>
	<datestamp>1261397460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Unfortunately the summery took this bit drectly from TFA and it is as you'd suspect, technically incorrect.  Ice breaks open the cells (lysing them) which causes the cell contents to spill out of the cell into whatever medium they are in.  This quite predictably, kills the cells.  However, ice that forms extremely rapidly forms a glass-like phase of ice that does less harm to the cells.  The interesting things about this new antifreeze molecule are that 1) it's not a protein; it's a fairly simple molecule and 2) it's lipophillic (tends to hang around fatty things like cell membranes) which makes it a very useful discovery in terms of biological antifreeze molecules.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Unfortunately the summery took this bit drectly from TFA and it is as you 'd suspect , technically incorrect .
Ice breaks open the cells ( lysing them ) which causes the cell contents to spill out of the cell into whatever medium they are in .
This quite predictably , kills the cells .
However , ice that forms extremely rapidly forms a glass-like phase of ice that does less harm to the cells .
The interesting things about this new antifreeze molecule are that 1 ) it 's not a protein ; it 's a fairly simple molecule and 2 ) it 's lipophillic ( tends to hang around fatty things like cell membranes ) which makes it a very useful discovery in terms of biological antifreeze molecules .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unfortunately the summery took this bit drectly from TFA and it is as you'd suspect, technically incorrect.
Ice breaks open the cells (lysing them) which causes the cell contents to spill out of the cell into whatever medium they are in.
This quite predictably, kills the cells.
However, ice that forms extremely rapidly forms a glass-like phase of ice that does less harm to the cells.
The interesting things about this new antifreeze molecule are that 1) it's not a protein; it's a fairly simple molecule and 2) it's lipophillic (tends to hang around fatty things like cell membranes) which makes it a very useful discovery in terms of biological antifreeze molecules.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30518492</id>
	<title>Re:Cryogenics?</title>
	<author>MichaelSmith</author>
	<datestamp>1261399920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Y3K? COBOL programmers could be very valuable.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Y3K ?
COBOL programmers could be very valuable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Y3K?
COBOL programmers could be very valuable.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30521738</id>
	<title>Re:Rather OT: Brain information storage paradox</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261476840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You assume that long-term storage and short-term storage differ in more than their garbage collection period.  Think of memory like memory on an old PDA...there's the ROM whose contents survive a complete power loss (this would be your babies fearing dog aspect, and then there's the RAM, which, at least in my old PDA, not only was used as temporary space for running programs to use, but it also held actual data as it differed from the ROM image, but the underlying storage medium was exactly the same.  Now, while my old PDA had 64MB of RAM, no matter what, I could run the config utility and decide where the divide was between RAM used for programs and RAM used for storage.  The brain (at least in my opinion, IANAN, but I do have enough of my RAM dedicated to the storage of medical journals and the like that I consider myself at least worthy of giving an opinion) is similar to this, where learned behaviors (stored programs) and perception (running programs) share the same total capacity, but the split is different in all of us, so while someone may have an eidetic memory and have exact memory of certain things, they may also be deficient in other ways, be it a lower focus on the world around them, less stored behaviors (storage on my disk could have more programs or it could have more documents, it's still the same storage capacity), or even have less short-term memory, allowing what would be temporary storage for you to be permanent storage for me....now where did I leave my keys?  The reason it all looks the same to us is that we don't have a brain file system driver written just yet, so all the structures appear as simple ones and zeroes, seemingly randomly arranged.  We can tell where the disk heads are currently reading, but apart from that, our understanding of the brain is about as limited as your understanding of quantum mechanics...or memory for that matter.  Signals degrade over time, thanks to my very best friend entropy....but with fewer chemical reactions, fewer changes of one form of energy for another, there is significantly less heat generated, which means the rate of entropy drops as well (it doesn't hit zero until absolute zero though, so degradation still occurs...just at a markedly slower rate).  Your problem is you took two things you didn't understand, memory and quantum mechanics, and decided that your lack of understanding of both was something they both had in common, so they must be related, so you tried to tie them together, when there is no compelling argument for (or against, apart from Occam's razor) a dependence on quantum effects.  Perhaps the place you should have started was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You assume that long-term storage and short-term storage differ in more than their garbage collection period .
Think of memory like memory on an old PDA...there 's the ROM whose contents survive a complete power loss ( this would be your babies fearing dog aspect , and then there 's the RAM , which , at least in my old PDA , not only was used as temporary space for running programs to use , but it also held actual data as it differed from the ROM image , but the underlying storage medium was exactly the same .
Now , while my old PDA had 64MB of RAM , no matter what , I could run the config utility and decide where the divide was between RAM used for programs and RAM used for storage .
The brain ( at least in my opinion , IANAN , but I do have enough of my RAM dedicated to the storage of medical journals and the like that I consider myself at least worthy of giving an opinion ) is similar to this , where learned behaviors ( stored programs ) and perception ( running programs ) share the same total capacity , but the split is different in all of us , so while someone may have an eidetic memory and have exact memory of certain things , they may also be deficient in other ways , be it a lower focus on the world around them , less stored behaviors ( storage on my disk could have more programs or it could have more documents , it 's still the same storage capacity ) , or even have less short-term memory , allowing what would be temporary storage for you to be permanent storage for me....now where did I leave my keys ?
The reason it all looks the same to us is that we do n't have a brain file system driver written just yet , so all the structures appear as simple ones and zeroes , seemingly randomly arranged .
We can tell where the disk heads are currently reading , but apart from that , our understanding of the brain is about as limited as your understanding of quantum mechanics...or memory for that matter .
Signals degrade over time , thanks to my very best friend entropy....but with fewer chemical reactions , fewer changes of one form of energy for another , there is significantly less heat generated , which means the rate of entropy drops as well ( it does n't hit zero until absolute zero though , so degradation still occurs...just at a markedly slower rate ) .
Your problem is you took two things you did n't understand , memory and quantum mechanics , and decided that your lack of understanding of both was something they both had in common , so they must be related , so you tried to tie them together , when there is no compelling argument for ( or against , apart from Occam 's razor ) a dependence on quantum effects .
Perhaps the place you should have started was http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You assume that long-term storage and short-term storage differ in more than their garbage collection period.
Think of memory like memory on an old PDA...there's the ROM whose contents survive a complete power loss (this would be your babies fearing dog aspect, and then there's the RAM, which, at least in my old PDA, not only was used as temporary space for running programs to use, but it also held actual data as it differed from the ROM image, but the underlying storage medium was exactly the same.
Now, while my old PDA had 64MB of RAM, no matter what, I could run the config utility and decide where the divide was between RAM used for programs and RAM used for storage.
The brain (at least in my opinion, IANAN, but I do have enough of my RAM dedicated to the storage of medical journals and the like that I consider myself at least worthy of giving an opinion) is similar to this, where learned behaviors (stored programs) and perception (running programs) share the same total capacity, but the split is different in all of us, so while someone may have an eidetic memory and have exact memory of certain things, they may also be deficient in other ways, be it a lower focus on the world around them, less stored behaviors (storage on my disk could have more programs or it could have more documents, it's still the same storage capacity), or even have less short-term memory, allowing what would be temporary storage for you to be permanent storage for me....now where did I leave my keys?
The reason it all looks the same to us is that we don't have a brain file system driver written just yet, so all the structures appear as simple ones and zeroes, seemingly randomly arranged.
We can tell where the disk heads are currently reading, but apart from that, our understanding of the brain is about as limited as your understanding of quantum mechanics...or memory for that matter.
Signals degrade over time, thanks to my very best friend entropy....but with fewer chemical reactions, fewer changes of one form of energy for another, there is significantly less heat generated, which means the rate of entropy drops as well (it doesn't hit zero until absolute zero though, so degradation still occurs...just at a markedly slower rate).
Your problem is you took two things you didn't understand, memory and quantum mechanics, and decided that your lack of understanding of both was something they both had in common, so they must be related, so you tried to tie them together, when there is no compelling argument for (or against, apart from Occam's razor) a dependence on quantum effects.
Perhaps the place you should have started was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30520194</id>
	<title>Re:Cryogenics?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261414140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>People occasionally aren't douchebags?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>People occasionally are n't douchebags ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People occasionally aren't douchebags?</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30523116</id>
	<title>northern new york state, february</title>
	<author>circletimessquare</author>
	<datestamp>1261494240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>its been below zero outside for weeks, snow is piled high. working on this house with sunken foot high wells for the basement windows, requiring you to clean out the snow and leaves that often gather in the wells, so it doesn't break the windows or leak water inside. so i'm yanking out this snow and compacted ice and leaves accumulated, and underneath, half frozen in the ice, is a dead toad. sad</p><p>then the fucker kicks me</p><p>absolutely blew my mind. well below zero in february. half frozen in ice. i put him back in the window well, give him a roof of leaves</p><p>this was two years ago. same toad still lives in the same window well to this day, dining all summer with gusto on the worms and bugs that fall in the well. never left. probably frozen under the snow right now. some sort of toad oasis</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>its been below zero outside for weeks , snow is piled high .
working on this house with sunken foot high wells for the basement windows , requiring you to clean out the snow and leaves that often gather in the wells , so it does n't break the windows or leak water inside .
so i 'm yanking out this snow and compacted ice and leaves accumulated , and underneath , half frozen in the ice , is a dead toad .
sadthen the fucker kicks meabsolutely blew my mind .
well below zero in february .
half frozen in ice .
i put him back in the window well , give him a roof of leavesthis was two years ago .
same toad still lives in the same window well to this day , dining all summer with gusto on the worms and bugs that fall in the well .
never left .
probably frozen under the snow right now .
some sort of toad oasis</tokentext>
<sentencetext>its been below zero outside for weeks, snow is piled high.
working on this house with sunken foot high wells for the basement windows, requiring you to clean out the snow and leaves that often gather in the wells, so it doesn't break the windows or leak water inside.
so i'm yanking out this snow and compacted ice and leaves accumulated, and underneath, half frozen in the ice, is a dead toad.
sadthen the fucker kicks meabsolutely blew my mind.
well below zero in february.
half frozen in ice.
i put him back in the window well, give him a roof of leavesthis was two years ago.
same toad still lives in the same window well to this day, dining all summer with gusto on the worms and bugs that fall in the well.
never left.
probably frozen under the snow right now.
some sort of toad oasis</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30518170</id>
	<title>Re:YES!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261397640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>How is this insightful? Really, if you have your tongue stuck to anything, be it a popsicle or a metal pole you can just pour some warm water over it and it comes off just fine.</htmltext>
<tokenext>How is this insightful ?
Really , if you have your tongue stuck to anything , be it a popsicle or a metal pole you can just pour some warm water over it and it comes off just fine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How is this insightful?
Really, if you have your tongue stuck to anything, be it a popsicle or a metal pole you can just pour some warm water over it and it comes off just fine.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30518198</id>
	<title>So this is why Volkswagen Beatles were "cool"</title>
	<author>Bob\_Who</author>
	<datestamp>1261397880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They never overheated, and didn't require coolant.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They never overheated , and did n't require coolant .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They never overheated, and didn't require coolant.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30518472</id>
	<title>na, **I** discovered a new antifreeze</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261399740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just touch a womans ass after shes been out in the cold for an hour.</p><p>Seriously...oh wait...this is<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just touch a womans ass after shes been out in the cold for an hour.Seriously...oh wait...this is / .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just touch a womans ass after shes been out in the cold for an hour.Seriously...oh wait...this is /.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30518298</id>
	<title>Re:Cryogenics?</title>
	<author>staalmannen</author>
	<datestamp>1261398480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think a cooler application would be freeze-resistant crops. The difficulty might be that the glycolipid (xylomannan) needs several enzymes to be correctly produced in other organisms than this beetle - in contrast to previous "antifreeze" proteins where freeze-resistance only involves introducing one new gene into the organism.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think a cooler application would be freeze-resistant crops .
The difficulty might be that the glycolipid ( xylomannan ) needs several enzymes to be correctly produced in other organisms than this beetle - in contrast to previous " antifreeze " proteins where freeze-resistance only involves introducing one new gene into the organism .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think a cooler application would be freeze-resistant crops.
The difficulty might be that the glycolipid (xylomannan) needs several enzymes to be correctly produced in other organisms than this beetle - in contrast to previous "antifreeze" proteins where freeze-resistance only involves introducing one new gene into the organism.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30518274</id>
	<title>Re:YES!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261398420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yah, but what if you are alone?</p><p>I bet it is pretty hard to piss on your own tongue when it is stuck to a pole.</p><p>Wait... That sounds even worse.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yah , but what if you are alone ? I bet it is pretty hard to piss on your own tongue when it is stuck to a pole.Wait... That sounds even worse .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yah, but what if you are alone?I bet it is pretty hard to piss on your own tongue when it is stuck to a pole.Wait... That sounds even worse.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30518170</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30525438</id>
	<title>Re:YES!</title>
	<author>steelfood</author>
	<datestamp>1261506060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It doesn't have to be warm water per se. It just needs to be warm, and have mostly water. With that in mind, I'll say: Point upwards.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It does n't have to be warm water per se .
It just needs to be warm , and have mostly water .
With that in mind , I 'll say : Point upwards .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It doesn't have to be warm water per se.
It just needs to be warm, and have mostly water.
With that in mind, I'll say: Point upwards.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30518526</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30518392</id>
	<title>TFA</title>
	<author>GaryOlson</author>
	<datestamp>1261399140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Since the summary is inadequate and misleading.....<br>
<b>New Antifreeze Molecule Isolated In Alaska Beetle</b> <br> <br>

Scientists have identified a novel antifreeze molecule in a freeze-tolerant Alaska beetle able to survive temperatures below minus 100 degrees Fahrenheit. Unlike all previously described biological antifreezes that contain protein, this new molecule, called xylomannan, has little or no protein. It is composed of a sugar and a fatty acid and may exist in new places within the cells of organisms.<br> <br>

"The most exciting part of this discovery is that this molecule is a whole new kind of antifreeze that may work in a different location of the cell and in a different way," said zoophysiologist Brian Barnes, director of the University of Alaska Fairbanks Institute of Arctic Biology and one of five scientists who participated in the Alaska Upis ceramboides beetle project.<br> <br>

Just as ice crystals form over ice cream left too long in a freezer, ice crystals in an insect or other organism can draw so much water out of the organism&rsquo;s cells that those cells die. Antifreeze molecules function to keep small ice crystals small or to prevent ice crystals from forming at all. They may help freeze-tolerant organisms survive by preventing freezing from penetrating into cells, a lethal condition. Other insects use these molecules to resist freezing by supercooling when they lower their body temperature below the freezing point without becoming solid.<br> <br>

UAF graduate student and project collaborator Todd Sformo found that the Alaska Upis beetle, which has no common name, first freezes at about minus 18.5 degrees Fahrenheit in the lab and survives temperatures down to about 104 degrees below zero Fahrenheit.<br> <br>

"It seems paradoxical that we find an antifreeze molecule in an organism that wants to freeze and that&rsquo;s adapted to freezing," said Barnes, whose research group is involved in locating insects, determining their strategies of overwintering and identifying the mechanisms that help them get through the winter<br> <br>

A possible advantage of this novel molecule comes from it having the same fatty acid that cells membranes do. This similarity, says Barnes, may allow the molecule to become part of a cell wall and protect the cell from internal ice crystal formation. Antifreeze molecules made of proteins may not fit into cell membranes.<br> <br>

"There are many difficult studies ahead," said Barnes. "To find out how common this biologic antifreeze is and how it actually prevents freezing and where exactly it&rsquo;s located."<br> <br>

This project was led by Kent Walters at the University of Notre Dame with collaborators Anthony Serianni and John H. Duman of UND and Barnes and Sformo of UAF and was published in the Dec. 1 issue of the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Since the summary is inadequate and misleading.... . New Antifreeze Molecule Isolated In Alaska Beetle Scientists have identified a novel antifreeze molecule in a freeze-tolerant Alaska beetle able to survive temperatures below minus 100 degrees Fahrenheit .
Unlike all previously described biological antifreezes that contain protein , this new molecule , called xylomannan , has little or no protein .
It is composed of a sugar and a fatty acid and may exist in new places within the cells of organisms .
" The most exciting part of this discovery is that this molecule is a whole new kind of antifreeze that may work in a different location of the cell and in a different way , " said zoophysiologist Brian Barnes , director of the University of Alaska Fairbanks Institute of Arctic Biology and one of five scientists who participated in the Alaska Upis ceramboides beetle project .
Just as ice crystals form over ice cream left too long in a freezer , ice crystals in an insect or other organism can draw so much water out of the organism    s cells that those cells die .
Antifreeze molecules function to keep small ice crystals small or to prevent ice crystals from forming at all .
They may help freeze-tolerant organisms survive by preventing freezing from penetrating into cells , a lethal condition .
Other insects use these molecules to resist freezing by supercooling when they lower their body temperature below the freezing point without becoming solid .
UAF graduate student and project collaborator Todd Sformo found that the Alaska Upis beetle , which has no common name , first freezes at about minus 18.5 degrees Fahrenheit in the lab and survives temperatures down to about 104 degrees below zero Fahrenheit .
" It seems paradoxical that we find an antifreeze molecule in an organism that wants to freeze and that    s adapted to freezing , " said Barnes , whose research group is involved in locating insects , determining their strategies of overwintering and identifying the mechanisms that help them get through the winter A possible advantage of this novel molecule comes from it having the same fatty acid that cells membranes do .
This similarity , says Barnes , may allow the molecule to become part of a cell wall and protect the cell from internal ice crystal formation .
Antifreeze molecules made of proteins may not fit into cell membranes .
" There are many difficult studies ahead , " said Barnes .
" To find out how common this biologic antifreeze is and how it actually prevents freezing and where exactly it    s located .
" This project was led by Kent Walters at the University of Notre Dame with collaborators Anthony Serianni and John H. Duman of UND and Barnes and Sformo of UAF and was published in the Dec. 1 issue of the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since the summary is inadequate and misleading.....
New Antifreeze Molecule Isolated In Alaska Beetle  

Scientists have identified a novel antifreeze molecule in a freeze-tolerant Alaska beetle able to survive temperatures below minus 100 degrees Fahrenheit.
Unlike all previously described biological antifreezes that contain protein, this new molecule, called xylomannan, has little or no protein.
It is composed of a sugar and a fatty acid and may exist in new places within the cells of organisms.
"The most exciting part of this discovery is that this molecule is a whole new kind of antifreeze that may work in a different location of the cell and in a different way," said zoophysiologist Brian Barnes, director of the University of Alaska Fairbanks Institute of Arctic Biology and one of five scientists who participated in the Alaska Upis ceramboides beetle project.
Just as ice crystals form over ice cream left too long in a freezer, ice crystals in an insect or other organism can draw so much water out of the organism’s cells that those cells die.
Antifreeze molecules function to keep small ice crystals small or to prevent ice crystals from forming at all.
They may help freeze-tolerant organisms survive by preventing freezing from penetrating into cells, a lethal condition.
Other insects use these molecules to resist freezing by supercooling when they lower their body temperature below the freezing point without becoming solid.
UAF graduate student and project collaborator Todd Sformo found that the Alaska Upis beetle, which has no common name, first freezes at about minus 18.5 degrees Fahrenheit in the lab and survives temperatures down to about 104 degrees below zero Fahrenheit.
"It seems paradoxical that we find an antifreeze molecule in an organism that wants to freeze and that’s adapted to freezing," said Barnes, whose research group is involved in locating insects, determining their strategies of overwintering and identifying the mechanisms that help them get through the winter 

A possible advantage of this novel molecule comes from it having the same fatty acid that cells membranes do.
This similarity, says Barnes, may allow the molecule to become part of a cell wall and protect the cell from internal ice crystal formation.
Antifreeze molecules made of proteins may not fit into cell membranes.
"There are many difficult studies ahead," said Barnes.
"To find out how common this biologic antifreeze is and how it actually prevents freezing and where exactly it’s located.
" 

This project was led by Kent Walters at the University of Notre Dame with collaborators Anthony Serianni and John H. Duman of UND and Barnes and Sformo of UAF and was published in the Dec. 1 issue of the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30519468</id>
	<title>Frozen for the Voyage</title>
	<author>Yergle143</author>
	<datestamp>1261408080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes well maybe sorta. Let's find out.</p><p>The trick might be that you would have to have a special GM modified (species)<br>of human with these (and perhaps other) antifreeze proteins inserted in their DNA.<br>This already works for plants: mammal data, not so good.</p><p>Simple transfusion of these in the blood of a normal human probably would<br>never work (but is being explored to preserve organs)</p><p>And no guarantees about your brain making the trip to cold storage and back<br>intact. We wont ask much of you when you get to Jupiter.</p><p>537</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes well maybe sorta .
Let 's find out.The trick might be that you would have to have a special GM modified ( species ) of human with these ( and perhaps other ) antifreeze proteins inserted in their DNA.This already works for plants : mammal data , not so good.Simple transfusion of these in the blood of a normal human probably wouldnever work ( but is being explored to preserve organs ) And no guarantees about your brain making the trip to cold storage and backintact .
We wont ask much of you when you get to Jupiter.537</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes well maybe sorta.
Let's find out.The trick might be that you would have to have a special GM modified (species)of human with these (and perhaps other) antifreeze proteins inserted in their DNA.This already works for plants: mammal data, not so good.Simple transfusion of these in the blood of a normal human probably wouldnever work (but is being explored to preserve organs)And no guarantees about your brain making the trip to cold storage and backintact.
We wont ask much of you when you get to Jupiter.537</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30517940</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30517970</id>
	<title>wait...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261396380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>"ice crystals in an insect or other organism can draw so much water out of the organism's cells that those cells die"</i></p><p>I thought the main problem was that the ice crystals both become sharp (like a crystal) and grow a bit in volume (ice being less dense than water) -- so the ice would burst out of the cell ravangin the cell walls and everything else at the same time.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...but the leading idea to save the cell was to pull a treefrog -- have a protein that expells the water from the cell, freeze drying the cell, so it was not damaged and in theory would take water back up again at warmer temps, without said ice crystal damage...</p><p>For the record, i can't RTFA from where i'm posting.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" ice crystals in an insect or other organism can draw so much water out of the organism 's cells that those cells die " I thought the main problem was that the ice crystals both become sharp ( like a crystal ) and grow a bit in volume ( ice being less dense than water ) -- so the ice would burst out of the cell ravangin the cell walls and everything else at the same time .
...but the leading idea to save the cell was to pull a treefrog -- have a protein that expells the water from the cell , freeze drying the cell , so it was not damaged and in theory would take water back up again at warmer temps , without said ice crystal damage...For the record , i ca n't RTFA from where i 'm posting .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"ice crystals in an insect or other organism can draw so much water out of the organism's cells that those cells die"I thought the main problem was that the ice crystals both become sharp (like a crystal) and grow a bit in volume (ice being less dense than water) -- so the ice would burst out of the cell ravangin the cell walls and everything else at the same time.
...but the leading idea to save the cell was to pull a treefrog -- have a protein that expells the water from the cell, freeze drying the cell, so it was not damaged and in theory would take water back up again at warmer temps, without said ice crystal damage...For the record, i can't RTFA from where i'm posting.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30518588</id>
	<title>Re:YES!</title>
	<author>BJ\_Covert\_Action</author>
	<datestamp>1261400640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Pssssssh, poles are nothing. Real Men try licking frozen traintracks....
<br> <br>
=P seems like the particularly appropriate smiler for this post.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Pssssssh , poles are nothing .
Real Men try licking frozen traintracks... . = P seems like the particularly appropriate smiler for this post .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pssssssh, poles are nothing.
Real Men try licking frozen traintracks....
 
=P seems like the particularly appropriate smiler for this post.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30518008</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30520066</id>
	<title>Re:Cryogenics?</title>
	<author>DJRumpy</author>
	<datestamp>1261413180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That is exactly what this new molecule does. The beetle actually freezes at minus 18 degrees Fahrenheit, and survives all the way down to minus 100. The chemical make up up the molecule is similar to the makeup of a cell membrane. Apparently if it was made up of mostly proteins like more common anti-freeze molecules, it would be too large according to TFA.</p><p>"UAF graduate student and project collaborator Todd Sformo found that the Alaska Upis beetle, which has no common name, first freezes at about minus 18.5 degrees Fahrenheit in the lab and survives temperatures down to about 104 degrees below zero Fahrenheit."</p><p>"A possible advantage of this novel molecule comes from it having the same fatty acid that cells membranes do. This similarity, says Barnes, may allow the molecule to become part of a cell wall and protect the cell from internal ice crystal formation. Antifreeze molecules made of proteins may not fit into cell membranes."</p><p>If they can identify and create an equivalent molecule compatible with human cell walls, that makes cryogenic suspension very feasible.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That is exactly what this new molecule does .
The beetle actually freezes at minus 18 degrees Fahrenheit , and survives all the way down to minus 100 .
The chemical make up up the molecule is similar to the makeup of a cell membrane .
Apparently if it was made up of mostly proteins like more common anti-freeze molecules , it would be too large according to TFA .
" UAF graduate student and project collaborator Todd Sformo found that the Alaska Upis beetle , which has no common name , first freezes at about minus 18.5 degrees Fahrenheit in the lab and survives temperatures down to about 104 degrees below zero Fahrenheit .
" " A possible advantage of this novel molecule comes from it having the same fatty acid that cells membranes do .
This similarity , says Barnes , may allow the molecule to become part of a cell wall and protect the cell from internal ice crystal formation .
Antifreeze molecules made of proteins may not fit into cell membranes .
" If they can identify and create an equivalent molecule compatible with human cell walls , that makes cryogenic suspension very feasible .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That is exactly what this new molecule does.
The beetle actually freezes at minus 18 degrees Fahrenheit, and survives all the way down to minus 100.
The chemical make up up the molecule is similar to the makeup of a cell membrane.
Apparently if it was made up of mostly proteins like more common anti-freeze molecules, it would be too large according to TFA.
"UAF graduate student and project collaborator Todd Sformo found that the Alaska Upis beetle, which has no common name, first freezes at about minus 18.5 degrees Fahrenheit in the lab and survives temperatures down to about 104 degrees below zero Fahrenheit.
""A possible advantage of this novel molecule comes from it having the same fatty acid that cells membranes do.
This similarity, says Barnes, may allow the molecule to become part of a cell wall and protect the cell from internal ice crystal formation.
Antifreeze molecules made of proteins may not fit into cell membranes.
"If they can identify and create an equivalent molecule compatible with human cell walls, that makes cryogenic suspension very feasible.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30517904</id>
	<title>Is it....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261395960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>a Volkswagen Beetle?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>a Volkswagen Beetle ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>a Volkswagen Beetle?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30518676</id>
	<title>Re:Cryogenics?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261401540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It would be fun to proclaim in a loud voice: "Welcome to the world of tomorrow!"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It would be fun to proclaim in a loud voice : " Welcome to the world of tomorrow !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It would be fun to proclaim in a loud voice: "Welcome to the world of tomorrow!
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30518300</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30518526</id>
	<title>Re:YES!</title>
	<author>camperdave</author>
	<datestamp>1261400160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>The problem is, of course, how do you go and fetch the warm water when your tongue is frozen to the pole.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The problem is , of course , how do you go and fetch the warm water when your tongue is frozen to the pole .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The problem is, of course, how do you go and fetch the warm water when your tongue is frozen to the pole.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30518170</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30517918</id>
	<title>first, ftw?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261396080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>cool, yay.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>cool , yay .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>cool, yay.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30518132</id>
	<title>On the down side...</title>
	<author>Trip6</author>
	<datestamp>1261397400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...the beetles have no protection against boil-over.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...the beetles have no protection against boil-over .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...the beetles have no protection against boil-over.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30518778</id>
	<title>Science beats nature</title>
	<author>PPH</author>
	<datestamp>1261402800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I used to drive a 1963 Beetle. They don't need antifreeze!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I used to drive a 1963 Beetle .
They do n't need antifreeze !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I used to drive a 1963 Beetle.
They don't need antifreeze!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30519602</id>
	<title>What a fascinating universe we live in</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261409100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When I was reading the summary I felt like I was reading part of a plot synopsis for Star Trek or Stargate, except this is real. Sometimes I'm struck by what a fascinating universe we live in.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When I was reading the summary I felt like I was reading part of a plot synopsis for Star Trek or Stargate , except this is real .
Sometimes I 'm struck by what a fascinating universe we live in .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I was reading the summary I felt like I was reading part of a plot synopsis for Star Trek or Stargate, except this is real.
Sometimes I'm struck by what a fascinating universe we live in.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30518048</id>
	<title>Geez</title>
	<author>TheModelEskimo</author>
	<datestamp>1261396920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>...poor guy</htmltext>
<tokenext>...poor guy</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...poor guy</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30522782</id>
	<title>buffer that</title>
	<author>DABANSHEE</author>
	<datestamp>1261491180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If these beetles contain corrosion inhibitor molecules to, it'd be perfect for the radiator of my V8 Leyland P76, SQ-36 is getting damned expensive these days.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If these beetles contain corrosion inhibitor molecules to , it 'd be perfect for the radiator of my V8 Leyland P76 , SQ-36 is getting damned expensive these days .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If these beetles contain corrosion inhibitor molecules to, it'd be perfect for the radiator of my V8 Leyland P76, SQ-36 is getting damned expensive these days.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30517940</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30518374</id>
	<title>Re:Cryogenics?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261399080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>What motivation would future generations have to unthaw you? They already have your money.</p></div><p>Have you looked at our Federal deficit lately?  Future generations will unthaw us so they can sick their debt collectors on us<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What motivation would future generations have to unthaw you ?
They already have your money.Have you looked at our Federal deficit lately ?
Future generations will unthaw us so they can sick their debt collectors on us ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What motivation would future generations have to unthaw you?
They already have your money.Have you looked at our Federal deficit lately?
Future generations will unthaw us so they can sick their debt collectors on us ;)
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30518300</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30521362</id>
	<title>Re:New organic anti-freeze</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261514820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice!<br>CARRIER LOST</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Beetlejuice !
Beetlejuice ! Beetlejuice ! CARRIER LOST</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Beetlejuice!
Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice!CARRIER LOST</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30518402</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30525154</id>
	<title>Re:YES!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261504560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Urine has a lot of warm water in it.<br>Never leave home without it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Urine has a lot of warm water in it.Never leave home without it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Urine has a lot of warm water in it.Never leave home without it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30518526</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30518402</id>
	<title>New organic anti-freeze</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261399260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Beetlejuice!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Beetlejuice !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Beetlejuice!</sentencetext>
</comment>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_21_202205.30520014</id>
	<title>Re:Cryogenics?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261412580000</datestamp>
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	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's "sic", not "sick".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's " sic " , not " sick " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's "sic", not "sick".</sentencetext>
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