<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_12_16_1653218</id>
	<title>UK Government Seeks New Web Censorship Powers</title>
	<author>CmdrTaco</author>
	<datestamp>1260985320000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>oldandcold writes <i>"Given the recent coverage and controversy over Australia's forthcoming web censorship system, it is somewhat surprising (and worrying) that <a href="http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld200910/ldbills/001/10001.13-19.html#j158">Clause 11</a> of the UK's proposed <a href="http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld200910/ldbills/001/10001.i-ii.html">Digital Economy Bill</a> seems to have <a href="http://www.francisdavey.co.uk/2009/12/government-wants-new-powers-to-block.html">gone by largely unnoticed</a>. It amends the Communications Act 2003 to insert a new section 124H that could give the Secretary of State powers to order ISPs to block pretty much any website for pretty much any reason. Such orders would not require the scrutiny of parliament, or anyone else for that matter, because the Secretary of State would not be required to publish them."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>oldandcold writes " Given the recent coverage and controversy over Australia 's forthcoming web censorship system , it is somewhat surprising ( and worrying ) that Clause 11 of the UK 's proposed Digital Economy Bill seems to have gone by largely unnoticed .
It amends the Communications Act 2003 to insert a new section 124H that could give the Secretary of State powers to order ISPs to block pretty much any website for pretty much any reason .
Such orders would not require the scrutiny of parliament , or anyone else for that matter , because the Secretary of State would not be required to publish them .
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<sentencetext>oldandcold writes "Given the recent coverage and controversy over Australia's forthcoming web censorship system, it is somewhat surprising (and worrying) that Clause 11 of the UK's proposed Digital Economy Bill seems to have gone by largely unnoticed.
It amends the Communications Act 2003 to insert a new section 124H that could give the Secretary of State powers to order ISPs to block pretty much any website for pretty much any reason.
Such orders would not require the scrutiny of parliament, or anyone else for that matter, because the Secretary of State would not be required to publish them.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30463798</id>
	<title>Moving over Internet filtering</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259661720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If mandatory national Internet filtering hits the UK, how many UK residents will move abroad?</p><p>I'm a natural-born US citizen living in the USA, and I have been "itching" for a reason to move abroad for quite some time. I've said that one thing that would prompt me to move would be the implementation of national Internet filtering.</p><p>Australia is already out for obvious reasons...and it looks like the UK could be out too.</p><p>I have two main living criteria: I have to speak the language of the land [I currently speak English and Spanish], and it has to be a developed country, i.e., I should not have to live in a South Africa-esque security village.</p><p>That leaves me with Canada, Ireland, and Spain.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If mandatory national Internet filtering hits the UK , how many UK residents will move abroad ? I 'm a natural-born US citizen living in the USA , and I have been " itching " for a reason to move abroad for quite some time .
I 've said that one thing that would prompt me to move would be the implementation of national Internet filtering.Australia is already out for obvious reasons...and it looks like the UK could be out too.I have two main living criteria : I have to speak the language of the land [ I currently speak English and Spanish ] , and it has to be a developed country , i.e. , I should not have to live in a South Africa-esque security village.That leaves me with Canada , Ireland , and Spain .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If mandatory national Internet filtering hits the UK, how many UK residents will move abroad?I'm a natural-born US citizen living in the USA, and I have been "itching" for a reason to move abroad for quite some time.
I've said that one thing that would prompt me to move would be the implementation of national Internet filtering.Australia is already out for obvious reasons...and it looks like the UK could be out too.I have two main living criteria: I have to speak the language of the land [I currently speak English and Spanish], and it has to be a developed country, i.e., I should not have to live in a South Africa-esque security village.That leaves me with Canada, Ireland, and Spain.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30461764</id>
	<title>Re:Web sites on Double Secret Probation</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259698440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>To seek, you have to ask permission.</p><p>The UK isn't seeking anything, they're proclaiming what powers they're giving themselves.</p><p>It's an important distinction, the UK citizenry aren't giving them this power at their request, they're being made subject to this power without permission.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>To seek , you have to ask permission.The UK is n't seeking anything , they 're proclaiming what powers they 're giving themselves.It 's an important distinction , the UK citizenry are n't giving them this power at their request , they 're being made subject to this power without permission .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To seek, you have to ask permission.The UK isn't seeking anything, they're proclaiming what powers they're giving themselves.It's an important distinction, the UK citizenry aren't giving them this power at their request, they're being made subject to this power without permission.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460692</id>
	<title>Re:What happened to you, UK? You used to be cool</title>
	<author>sakdoctor</author>
	<datestamp>1259694240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Apparently it was cool in the 60s. That's what everyone says, but I missed it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apparently it was cool in the 60s .
That 's what everyone says , but I missed it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apparently it was cool in the 60s.
That's what everyone says, but I missed it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460420</id>
	<title>Don't worry, I've got a plan...</title>
	<author>Monkeedude1212</author>
	<datestamp>1259693340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Move to CHINA.</p><p>At least there you'll have access to Socialist Propaganda!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Move to CHINA.At least there you 'll have access to Socialist Propaganda !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Move to CHINA.At least there you'll have access to Socialist Propaganda!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30461846</id>
	<title>I am shocked</title>
	<author>gurps\_npc</author>
	<datestamp>1259698740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I am shocked, shocked I say, to learn that the United Kingdom is going to continue it's policy of invading the privacy of every single person inside their border.

From cameras used to trace every car's position, to arresting men for being too violent when capturing the thug that kidnapped their wife &amp; children.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I am shocked , shocked I say , to learn that the United Kingdom is going to continue it 's policy of invading the privacy of every single person inside their border .
From cameras used to trace every car 's position , to arresting men for being too violent when capturing the thug that kidnapped their wife &amp; children .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am shocked, shocked I say, to learn that the United Kingdom is going to continue it's policy of invading the privacy of every single person inside their border.
From cameras used to trace every car's position, to arresting men for being too violent when capturing the thug that kidnapped their wife &amp; children.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30461822</id>
	<title>Re:A preview of "net neutrality"</title>
	<author>gink1</author>
	<datestamp>1259698680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Better get together, raise money and buy some politicians.</p><p>Since they are almost all for sale, citizens might as well buy some too!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Better get together , raise money and buy some politicians.Since they are almost all for sale , citizens might as well buy some too !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Better get together, raise money and buy some politicians.Since they are almost all for sale, citizens might as well buy some too!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460944</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30462486</id>
	<title>Re:Democracy ?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259700480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>What are you talking about? Britain is totally still a Monarchy. The news won't shut up about Queen Elizabeth this and Prince Henry that.</p><p>I mean they don't even have a constitution, just a handful of scattered laws and judgements that would take ages to find if the need arises. How can you possibly be expected to fight for your democratic rights if you can't use the internet to look up which document it's even filed under?</p><p>In the infaliable United States Democracy (in which I do not reside) - those people have their democratic rights MEMORIZED, printed off, laminated, and FRAMED above their mantlepiece.</p></div><p>You clearly don't know british history or political system. The UK is a constitutional monarchy which means that parliament is required for any laws to be put into place. It has been this way since the English civil war in which the monarch was overthrown, but eventually brought back but with reduced powers, hence why during the queens speech on the opening of parliament, ceremonies such as closing the house of commons door on black rod (the queens messenger) takes place to symbolise that the power really resides with parliament and more specifically house of commons. Not the house of lords or the queen. Mandleson is trying to bypass parliament by passing a law through parliament that will effectively give it less power and more to the secretary of state. Im just hoping some of the labour back benchers will not listen to the part whips and rebel against this act.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What are you talking about ?
Britain is totally still a Monarchy .
The news wo n't shut up about Queen Elizabeth this and Prince Henry that.I mean they do n't even have a constitution , just a handful of scattered laws and judgements that would take ages to find if the need arises .
How can you possibly be expected to fight for your democratic rights if you ca n't use the internet to look up which document it 's even filed under ? In the infaliable United States Democracy ( in which I do not reside ) - those people have their democratic rights MEMORIZED , printed off , laminated , and FRAMED above their mantlepiece.You clearly do n't know british history or political system .
The UK is a constitutional monarchy which means that parliament is required for any laws to be put into place .
It has been this way since the English civil war in which the monarch was overthrown , but eventually brought back but with reduced powers , hence why during the queens speech on the opening of parliament , ceremonies such as closing the house of commons door on black rod ( the queens messenger ) takes place to symbolise that the power really resides with parliament and more specifically house of commons .
Not the house of lords or the queen .
Mandleson is trying to bypass parliament by passing a law through parliament that will effectively give it less power and more to the secretary of state .
Im just hoping some of the labour back benchers will not listen to the part whips and rebel against this act .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What are you talking about?
Britain is totally still a Monarchy.
The news won't shut up about Queen Elizabeth this and Prince Henry that.I mean they don't even have a constitution, just a handful of scattered laws and judgements that would take ages to find if the need arises.
How can you possibly be expected to fight for your democratic rights if you can't use the internet to look up which document it's even filed under?In the infaliable United States Democracy (in which I do not reside) - those people have their democratic rights MEMORIZED, printed off, laminated, and FRAMED above their mantlepiece.You clearly don't know british history or political system.
The UK is a constitutional monarchy which means that parliament is required for any laws to be put into place.
It has been this way since the English civil war in which the monarch was overthrown, but eventually brought back but with reduced powers, hence why during the queens speech on the opening of parliament, ceremonies such as closing the house of commons door on black rod (the queens messenger) takes place to symbolise that the power really resides with parliament and more specifically house of commons.
Not the house of lords or the queen.
Mandleson is trying to bypass parliament by passing a law through parliament that will effectively give it less power and more to the secretary of state.
Im just hoping some of the labour back benchers will not listen to the part whips and rebel against this act.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460600</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30467290</id>
	<title>Re:Democracy ?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259675580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>i know you weren't being entirely serious, but that's not a bad idea. i know you can get pocket versions of the constitution, but framed is not a bad idea.</p><p>and to be truthful it's not that we have certain rights so much that our government has *only* the certain powers granted to it in our constitution, and even those powers can't EVER be used to infringe upon the rights in the first 9 amendments to the constitution. (the 10th is about powers, not rights).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>i know you were n't being entirely serious , but that 's not a bad idea .
i know you can get pocket versions of the constitution , but framed is not a bad idea.and to be truthful it 's not that we have certain rights so much that our government has * only * the certain powers granted to it in our constitution , and even those powers ca n't EVER be used to infringe upon the rights in the first 9 amendments to the constitution .
( the 10th is about powers , not rights ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i know you weren't being entirely serious, but that's not a bad idea.
i know you can get pocket versions of the constitution, but framed is not a bad idea.and to be truthful it's not that we have certain rights so much that our government has *only* the certain powers granted to it in our constitution, and even those powers can't EVER be used to infringe upon the rights in the first 9 amendments to the constitution.
(the 10th is about powers, not rights).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460604</id>
	<title>Re:Democracy ?</title>
	<author>sakdoctor</author>
	<datestamp>1259693940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You expect too much from Democracy.<br>The UK, America and Australia, seem to be dead set on burying themselves under censorship and screwed up IP laws.</p><p>If China decides one day, that it can have social stability without the censorship, I fear we (Western civilization) are going to get pwned.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You expect too much from Democracy.The UK , America and Australia , seem to be dead set on burying themselves under censorship and screwed up IP laws.If China decides one day , that it can have social stability without the censorship , I fear we ( Western civilization ) are going to get pwned .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You expect too much from Democracy.The UK, America and Australia, seem to be dead set on burying themselves under censorship and screwed up IP laws.If China decides one day, that it can have social stability without the censorship, I fear we (Western civilization) are going to get pwned.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460474</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30471552</id>
	<title>Re:You mean like Ireland's blasphemy laws?</title>
	<author>hitmark</author>
	<datestamp>1261050420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>sadly, this do not only apply for US, but also old world nations.</p><p>norway have some creepy old laws about what religion the people in office must be members off, altho they are mostly ignored these days. Still, there was a need to rearrange what office covered religious topics, as the one planned to take said office (shared with culture at the time) where not a member of any religion...</p><p>its a mess, and there are arguing on all sides about how to deal with it...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>sadly , this do not only apply for US , but also old world nations.norway have some creepy old laws about what religion the people in office must be members off , altho they are mostly ignored these days .
Still , there was a need to rearrange what office covered religious topics , as the one planned to take said office ( shared with culture at the time ) where not a member of any religion...its a mess , and there are arguing on all sides about how to deal with it.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>sadly, this do not only apply for US, but also old world nations.norway have some creepy old laws about what religion the people in office must be members off, altho they are mostly ignored these days.
Still, there was a need to rearrange what office covered religious topics, as the one planned to take said office (shared with culture at the time) where not a member of any religion...its a mess, and there are arguing on all sides about how to deal with it...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30461676</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460392</id>
	<title>What happened to you, UK? You used to be cool</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259693220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They could at least give the semblance of rights to their citizens by putting up monitoring software and only catching the offenders. Like they do with the traffic cameras.</p><p>The list probably won't include porn, so that's a good thing. However, it will probably include hate sites. This makes it a serious crackdown on the freedom of speech. It's exactly this kind of thoughtcrime persecution that our American founders fled from those 250 years ago.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They could at least give the semblance of rights to their citizens by putting up monitoring software and only catching the offenders .
Like they do with the traffic cameras.The list probably wo n't include porn , so that 's a good thing .
However , it will probably include hate sites .
This makes it a serious crackdown on the freedom of speech .
It 's exactly this kind of thoughtcrime persecution that our American founders fled from those 250 years ago .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They could at least give the semblance of rights to their citizens by putting up monitoring software and only catching the offenders.
Like they do with the traffic cameras.The list probably won't include porn, so that's a good thing.
However, it will probably include hate sites.
This makes it a serious crackdown on the freedom of speech.
It's exactly this kind of thoughtcrime persecution that our American founders fled from those 250 years ago.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30467590</id>
	<title>Re:Democracy ?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259677380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>USA is a constitutional republic, NOT a democracy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>USA is a constitutional republic , NOT a democracy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>USA is a constitutional republic, NOT a democracy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30465442</id>
	<title>Re:What happened to you, UK? You used to be cool</title>
	<author>Dan541</author>
	<datestamp>1259667060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Here in Australia it's the religious people who are the biggest supporters of censorship. I wonder why?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Here in Australia it 's the religious people who are the biggest supporters of censorship .
I wonder why ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here in Australia it's the religious people who are the biggest supporters of censorship.
I wonder why?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460392</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30472388</id>
	<title>Re:I should complain</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261059240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Bzzt. Liverpool is 'Labour', yet voted to withdraw all co-operation over the flawed ID card project.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Bzzt .
Liverpool is 'Labour ' , yet voted to withdraw all co-operation over the flawed ID card project .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bzzt.
Liverpool is 'Labour', yet voted to withdraw all co-operation over the flawed ID card project.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30463698</id>
	<title>Stop moaning and write to your MP</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259661300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Whining on Slashdot won't change anything, but if enough people complain to their MPs it might just change things. Goodness knows enough of them are going to loose their seats at the next election. They might just do something wild and wonderful, and stop this absurd amendment to the bill.</p><p>Gotta go. There's a letter to write.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Whining on Slashdot wo n't change anything , but if enough people complain to their MPs it might just change things .
Goodness knows enough of them are going to loose their seats at the next election .
They might just do something wild and wonderful , and stop this absurd amendment to the bill.Got ta go .
There 's a letter to write .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Whining on Slashdot won't change anything, but if enough people complain to their MPs it might just change things.
Goodness knows enough of them are going to loose their seats at the next election.
They might just do something wild and wonderful, and stop this absurd amendment to the bill.Gotta go.
There's a letter to write.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30468988</id>
	<title>Re:Bastards.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259688240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You all forget about D-notices?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You all forget about D-notices ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You all forget about D-notices?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30461498</id>
	<title>Re:What happened to you, UK? You used to be cool</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259697300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If it's mandelson that's backing this then it will primarily include whatever the music/film industry tells him to put on it. This guy has zero accountability to the public and his only concern is doing absolutely anything to satisfy big industry. He would try to ban the internet outright if he could to satisfy BPI. I gurantee that every single torrent tracker or website discussing torrents would end up on that list. In addition to any indie artists(Artists that don't send most of their income to the big labels stealing money that belongs to the labels of course).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If it 's mandelson that 's backing this then it will primarily include whatever the music/film industry tells him to put on it .
This guy has zero accountability to the public and his only concern is doing absolutely anything to satisfy big industry .
He would try to ban the internet outright if he could to satisfy BPI .
I gurantee that every single torrent tracker or website discussing torrents would end up on that list .
In addition to any indie artists ( Artists that do n't send most of their income to the big labels stealing money that belongs to the labels of course ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If it's mandelson that's backing this then it will primarily include whatever the music/film industry tells him to put on it.
This guy has zero accountability to the public and his only concern is doing absolutely anything to satisfy big industry.
He would try to ban the internet outright if he could to satisfy BPI.
I gurantee that every single torrent tracker or website discussing torrents would end up on that list.
In addition to any indie artists(Artists that don't send most of their income to the big labels stealing money that belongs to the labels of course).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460392</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30463376</id>
	<title>Re:You mean like Ireland's blasphemy laws?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259660100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>and what if you worship the god of the underworld SATAN<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.. i am sure that is who the likes of Bush and Cheney are referring to when the say GOD bless america<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.. the god of the corporate world<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.. those organizations that are criminal and sociopathic by design<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.. having the power of the group<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.. the legal rights of persons and limited legal liability<nobr> <wbr></nobr>..</p><p>i don't have much hope<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.. but i wonder if the masses are ever going to get the fact that the world governments have been taken over by corporations<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.. and rise up and do some thing<nobr> <wbr></nobr>..</p><p>personally i doubt it<nobr> <wbr></nobr>..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>and what if you worship the god of the underworld SATAN .. i am sure that is who the likes of Bush and Cheney are referring to when the say GOD bless america .. the god of the corporate world .. those organizations that are criminal and sociopathic by design .. having the power of the group .. the legal rights of persons and limited legal liability ..i do n't have much hope .. but i wonder if the masses are ever going to get the fact that the world governments have been taken over by corporations .. and rise up and do some thing ..personally i doubt it . .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and what if you worship the god of the underworld SATAN .. i am sure that is who the likes of Bush and Cheney are referring to when the say GOD bless america .. the god of the corporate world .. those organizations that are criminal and sociopathic by design .. having the power of the group .. the legal rights of persons and limited legal liability ..i don't have much hope .. but i wonder if the masses are ever going to get the fact that the world governments have been taken over by corporations .. and rise up and do some thing ..personally i doubt it ..</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30461676</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30466312</id>
	<title>Re:You mean like Ireland's blasphemy laws?</title>
	<author>WolfWithoutAClause</author>
	<datestamp>1259670180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As long as you've been touched by His noodly appendage, you're good to go then!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As long as you 've been touched by His noodly appendage , you 're good to go then !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As long as you've been touched by His noodly appendage, you're good to go then!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30461676</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460378</id>
	<title>Web sites on Double Secret Probation</title>
	<author>dyfet</author>
	<datestamp>1259693160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hmm...so you may not even know you have been banned....the great Internet wall of Britain?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hmm...so you may not even know you have been banned....the great Internet wall of Britain ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hmm...so you may not even know you have been banned....the great Internet wall of Britain?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460950</id>
	<title>Stifling dissent against the NWO of OWG</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259695200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Should come in handy if any of the proles try to compare notes across the ponds.</p><p>The lessons the Commonwealth learned in WW2 were not equality, democracy and freedom but rather facism, oppression and tyranny.</p><p>Object lesson: brush your teeth kiddies, because tooth-rot begets brain-rot. You don't want to grow up to be like the British sheeple, do you?</p><p>Would the last Anglo-Saxon to leave Britain please turn out the lights?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Should come in handy if any of the proles try to compare notes across the ponds.The lessons the Commonwealth learned in WW2 were not equality , democracy and freedom but rather facism , oppression and tyranny.Object lesson : brush your teeth kiddies , because tooth-rot begets brain-rot .
You do n't want to grow up to be like the British sheeple , do you ? Would the last Anglo-Saxon to leave Britain please turn out the lights ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Should come in handy if any of the proles try to compare notes across the ponds.The lessons the Commonwealth learned in WW2 were not equality, democracy and freedom but rather facism, oppression and tyranny.Object lesson: brush your teeth kiddies, because tooth-rot begets brain-rot.
You don't want to grow up to be like the British sheeple, do you?Would the last Anglo-Saxon to leave Britain please turn out the lights?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460528</id>
	<title>Huh?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259693700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Your statement is contradictory..</p><p><div class="quote"><p>The list probably won't include porn, so that's a good thing. However, it will probably include hate sites. This makes it a serious crackdown on the freedom of speech. It's exactly this kind of thoughtcrime persecution that our American founders fled from those 250 years ago.</p></div><p>if americans had to flee from (and then rebel against) this persecution, how were they "cool" before?  Are we going back to the days of stone henge?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Your statement is contradictory..The list probably wo n't include porn , so that 's a good thing .
However , it will probably include hate sites .
This makes it a serious crackdown on the freedom of speech .
It 's exactly this kind of thoughtcrime persecution that our American founders fled from those 250 years ago.if americans had to flee from ( and then rebel against ) this persecution , how were they " cool " before ?
Are we going back to the days of stone henge ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your statement is contradictory..The list probably won't include porn, so that's a good thing.
However, it will probably include hate sites.
This makes it a serious crackdown on the freedom of speech.
It's exactly this kind of thoughtcrime persecution that our American founders fled from those 250 years ago.if americans had to flee from (and then rebel against) this persecution, how were they "cool" before?
Are we going back to the days of stone henge?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460392</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460572</id>
	<title>I love transparency!</title>
	<author>Blappo</author>
	<datestamp>1259693820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I love it.  I really do.</p><p>And despite the fact that many would argue that any censorship is wrong, the distasteful part of these initiatives, the part that really cannot tolerate debate, is the lack of transparency.</p><p>I don't care for censorship, but I'm willing to listen if you say it's necessary.  I'll probably tell you to screw, but I'll at least listen.</p><p>However, if you don't even bother to solicit opinion, or make yourself accountable to scrutiny, that's unacceptable, in a way that any normal, well adjusted individual would immediately recognize.</p><p>So all you get is screw, and no, I really won't listen, thanks, get out.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I love it .
I really do.And despite the fact that many would argue that any censorship is wrong , the distasteful part of these initiatives , the part that really can not tolerate debate , is the lack of transparency.I do n't care for censorship , but I 'm willing to listen if you say it 's necessary .
I 'll probably tell you to screw , but I 'll at least listen.However , if you do n't even bother to solicit opinion , or make yourself accountable to scrutiny , that 's unacceptable , in a way that any normal , well adjusted individual would immediately recognize.So all you get is screw , and no , I really wo n't listen , thanks , get out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I love it.
I really do.And despite the fact that many would argue that any censorship is wrong, the distasteful part of these initiatives, the part that really cannot tolerate debate, is the lack of transparency.I don't care for censorship, but I'm willing to listen if you say it's necessary.
I'll probably tell you to screw, but I'll at least listen.However, if you don't even bother to solicit opinion, or make yourself accountable to scrutiny, that's unacceptable, in a way that any normal, well adjusted individual would immediately recognize.So all you get is screw, and no, I really won't listen, thanks, get out.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30463010</id>
	<title>I should complain</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259658900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... being as I live in the UK.  But frankly, why bother?</p><p>My local MP is a Labour MP, and (like many Labour MPs) has never voted against anything dreamt up by the party leadership in her life.  They could put forward a bill which puts under 18's to death by torture for jaywalking and she'd probably vote for it.</p><p>The only silver lining is that this parliament will be cut short by a general election next year, which with any luck will get shot of Labour for a nice long time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... being as I live in the UK .
But frankly , why bother ? My local MP is a Labour MP , and ( like many Labour MPs ) has never voted against anything dreamt up by the party leadership in her life .
They could put forward a bill which puts under 18 's to death by torture for jaywalking and she 'd probably vote for it.The only silver lining is that this parliament will be cut short by a general election next year , which with any luck will get shot of Labour for a nice long time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... being as I live in the UK.
But frankly, why bother?My local MP is a Labour MP, and (like many Labour MPs) has never voted against anything dreamt up by the party leadership in her life.
They could put forward a bill which puts under 18's to death by torture for jaywalking and she'd probably vote for it.The only silver lining is that this parliament will be cut short by a general election next year, which with any luck will get shot of Labour for a nice long time.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30463056</id>
	<title>The Web Is Dead, Long Live the SWEB!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259659020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"World" Wide Web?  Sounds like it's going to be more like "SWitzerland" Wide Web!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" World " Wide Web ?
Sounds like it 's going to be more like " SWitzerland " Wide Web !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"World" Wide Web?
Sounds like it's going to be more like "SWitzerland" Wide Web!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30469482</id>
	<title>Re:I should complain</title>
	<author>yendis</author>
	<datestamp>1259692200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>But will the Tories be any different? Remember Thatcher and the SAS!</htmltext>
<tokenext>But will the Tories be any different ?
Remember Thatcher and the SAS !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But will the Tories be any different?
Remember Thatcher and the SAS!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30463010</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30463762</id>
	<title>Re:You mean like Ireland's blasphemy laws?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259661540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It was North Carolina, not South Carolina where holding public office required belief in God.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It was North Carolina , not South Carolina where holding public office required belief in God .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It was North Carolina, not South Carolina where holding public office required belief in God.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30461676</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460946</id>
	<title>This means...</title>
	<author>Kazoo the Clown</author>
	<datestamp>1259695200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They will need a bureaucracy to maintain the list of banned sites, and to insure all the various ISPs are informed of it.   Then it only takes one to leak the list (or maybe two, if they try to track which list is leaked by inserting a tracking entry), and we can then all freely explore what problems it has and how ineffective it really is, and enjoy the Streisand effect on it all.  And of course, they'll ultimately try to block WikiLeaks and that'll go over like a lead balloon, as it's a popular enough site that they won't be able to keep that under wraps in any event.<br> <br>
A couple of days ago NPR had an interview with some government security guy who was arguing for banning the Islamic terrorist's sites.   As if that would do any good-- don't these guys have any idea how the internet works?   Even if you can ban some specific DNS names or IP addresses, it'll get proxied all over hell and/or the very worst that would happen is they would translate the sites into something apparently benign but with coded content, so it won't really have much effect on their ability to communicate...<br> <br>
Seems to me, that if you translate your content into something that appears to support a wedge issue that the powers that be are overly fond of, say, anti-abortion or pro-life (or one of each), they can't block it with out a lot of stink about censorship and will find a bunch of rabid conservatives or liberals all ready to rise up and fight for the cause.  And how hard would it be to produce a custom browser that can assemble the uncoded content from a couple of such sites, and perhaps using redundant sites and a ready ability to update the sitelist info?   It may not be necessary to go anywhere near that far, but it shows that there is no way that content can be blocked on the internet-- just get over it already...</htmltext>
<tokenext>They will need a bureaucracy to maintain the list of banned sites , and to insure all the various ISPs are informed of it .
Then it only takes one to leak the list ( or maybe two , if they try to track which list is leaked by inserting a tracking entry ) , and we can then all freely explore what problems it has and how ineffective it really is , and enjoy the Streisand effect on it all .
And of course , they 'll ultimately try to block WikiLeaks and that 'll go over like a lead balloon , as it 's a popular enough site that they wo n't be able to keep that under wraps in any event .
A couple of days ago NPR had an interview with some government security guy who was arguing for banning the Islamic terrorist 's sites .
As if that would do any good-- do n't these guys have any idea how the internet works ?
Even if you can ban some specific DNS names or IP addresses , it 'll get proxied all over hell and/or the very worst that would happen is they would translate the sites into something apparently benign but with coded content , so it wo n't really have much effect on their ability to communicate.. . Seems to me , that if you translate your content into something that appears to support a wedge issue that the powers that be are overly fond of , say , anti-abortion or pro-life ( or one of each ) , they ca n't block it with out a lot of stink about censorship and will find a bunch of rabid conservatives or liberals all ready to rise up and fight for the cause .
And how hard would it be to produce a custom browser that can assemble the uncoded content from a couple of such sites , and perhaps using redundant sites and a ready ability to update the sitelist info ?
It may not be necessary to go anywhere near that far , but it shows that there is no way that content can be blocked on the internet-- just get over it already.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They will need a bureaucracy to maintain the list of banned sites, and to insure all the various ISPs are informed of it.
Then it only takes one to leak the list (or maybe two, if they try to track which list is leaked by inserting a tracking entry), and we can then all freely explore what problems it has and how ineffective it really is, and enjoy the Streisand effect on it all.
And of course, they'll ultimately try to block WikiLeaks and that'll go over like a lead balloon, as it's a popular enough site that they won't be able to keep that under wraps in any event.
A couple of days ago NPR had an interview with some government security guy who was arguing for banning the Islamic terrorist's sites.
As if that would do any good-- don't these guys have any idea how the internet works?
Even if you can ban some specific DNS names or IP addresses, it'll get proxied all over hell and/or the very worst that would happen is they would translate the sites into something apparently benign but with coded content, so it won't really have much effect on their ability to communicate... 
Seems to me, that if you translate your content into something that appears to support a wedge issue that the powers that be are overly fond of, say, anti-abortion or pro-life (or one of each), they can't block it with out a lot of stink about censorship and will find a bunch of rabid conservatives or liberals all ready to rise up and fight for the cause.
And how hard would it be to produce a custom browser that can assemble the uncoded content from a couple of such sites, and perhaps using redundant sites and a ready ability to update the sitelist info?
It may not be necessary to go anywhere near that far, but it shows that there is no way that content can be blocked on the internet-- just get over it already...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30462880</id>
	<title>Good god.</title>
	<author>lattyware</author>
	<datestamp>1259658420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I would honestly get up and protest over this one, it's just a step too far towards the police state they want. If it comes to that point, I'd definitely want to be doing something real (not just signing petitions).</htmltext>
<tokenext>I would honestly get up and protest over this one , it 's just a step too far towards the police state they want .
If it comes to that point , I 'd definitely want to be doing something real ( not just signing petitions ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would honestly get up and protest over this one, it's just a step too far towards the police state they want.
If it comes to that point, I'd definitely want to be doing something real (not just signing petitions).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30465180</id>
	<title>Re:You mean like Ireland's blasphemy laws?</title>
	<author>nurb432</author>
	<datestamp>1259666340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Welcome to the brave new world. Now, stop talking about it before we sweep you under the rug.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Welcome to the brave new world .
Now , stop talking about it before we sweep you under the rug .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Welcome to the brave new world.
Now, stop talking about it before we sweep you under the rug.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460442</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30472300</id>
	<title>Re:Democracy ?</title>
	<author>u38cg</author>
	<datestamp>1261058400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>The British Constitution is pretty damned simple, in fact.  Go too far and we'll chop your head off.  Don't believe it?  We've done it before.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The British Constitution is pretty damned simple , in fact .
Go too far and we 'll chop your head off .
Do n't believe it ?
We 've done it before .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The British Constitution is pretty damned simple, in fact.
Go too far and we'll chop your head off.
Don't believe it?
We've done it before.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460600</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460936</id>
	<title>Re:What happened to you, UK? You used to be cool</title>
	<author>jameskojiro</author>
	<datestamp>1259695140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Of course how do you define "Hate Site"?</p><p>A site that denounces Global Warming could be described as being a hate site.</p><p>Who decides what is hate and what isn't.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Of course how do you define " Hate Site " ? A site that denounces Global Warming could be described as being a hate site.Who decides what is hate and what is n't .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of course how do you define "Hate Site"?A site that denounces Global Warming could be described as being a hate site.Who decides what is hate and what isn't.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460392</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460600</id>
	<title>Re:Democracy ?</title>
	<author>Monkeedude1212</author>
	<datestamp>1259693940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What are you talking about? Britain is totally still a Monarchy. The news won't shut up about Queen Elizabeth this and Prince Henry that.</p><p>I mean they don't even have a constitution, just a handful of scattered laws and judgements that would take ages to find if the need arises. How can you possibly be expected to fight for your democratic rights if you can't use the internet to look up which document it's even filed under?</p><p>In the infaliable United States Democracy (in which I do not reside) - those people have their democratic rights MEMORIZED, printed off, laminated, and FRAMED above their mantlepiece.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What are you talking about ?
Britain is totally still a Monarchy .
The news wo n't shut up about Queen Elizabeth this and Prince Henry that.I mean they do n't even have a constitution , just a handful of scattered laws and judgements that would take ages to find if the need arises .
How can you possibly be expected to fight for your democratic rights if you ca n't use the internet to look up which document it 's even filed under ? In the infaliable United States Democracy ( in which I do not reside ) - those people have their democratic rights MEMORIZED , printed off , laminated , and FRAMED above their mantlepiece .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What are you talking about?
Britain is totally still a Monarchy.
The news won't shut up about Queen Elizabeth this and Prince Henry that.I mean they don't even have a constitution, just a handful of scattered laws and judgements that would take ages to find if the need arises.
How can you possibly be expected to fight for your democratic rights if you can't use the internet to look up which document it's even filed under?In the infaliable United States Democracy (in which I do not reside) - those people have their democratic rights MEMORIZED, printed off, laminated, and FRAMED above their mantlepiece.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460474</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30461004</id>
	<title>Hopefully...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259695440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hopefully they won't censor those pictures I snapped of CmdrTaco's micropenis when he was at the glory hole last night.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hopefully they wo n't censor those pictures I snapped of CmdrTaco 's micropenis when he was at the glory hole last night .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hopefully they won't censor those pictures I snapped of CmdrTaco's micropenis when he was at the glory hole last night.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30462848</id>
	<title>Re:Web sites on Double Secret Probation</title>
	<author>JoshuaZ</author>
	<datestamp>1259658360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yes. Moreover, if you run a small website you might not very well notice if you simply aren't getting hits from Britain. If you are large you may have a better chance at noticing but even then it isn't necessarily going to happen. Even more disturbing, people in Britain won't necessarily be aware that this is happening. They will likely simply get an error message when they try to access the website and they'll have no way to tell that that error is due to censorship and not due to some technical problem.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes .
Moreover , if you run a small website you might not very well notice if you simply are n't getting hits from Britain .
If you are large you may have a better chance at noticing but even then it is n't necessarily going to happen .
Even more disturbing , people in Britain wo n't necessarily be aware that this is happening .
They will likely simply get an error message when they try to access the website and they 'll have no way to tell that that error is due to censorship and not due to some technical problem .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes.
Moreover, if you run a small website you might not very well notice if you simply aren't getting hits from Britain.
If you are large you may have a better chance at noticing but even then it isn't necessarily going to happen.
Even more disturbing, people in Britain won't necessarily be aware that this is happening.
They will likely simply get an error message when they try to access the website and they'll have no way to tell that that error is due to censorship and not due to some technical problem.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460378</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30464078</id>
	<title>Re:Don't worry, I've got a plan...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259662800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Never heard of the BBC, I see...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Never heard of the BBC , I see.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Never heard of the BBC, I see...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30471590</id>
	<title>Re:A preview of "net neutrality"</title>
	<author>hitmark</author>
	<datestamp>1261050720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>there is commercial censorship, and there is political.</p><p>net neutrality deals with the former, not the latter, as the latter is better covered mechanisms already in place (like say freedom of speech, wherever that concept applies).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>there is commercial censorship , and there is political.net neutrality deals with the former , not the latter , as the latter is better covered mechanisms already in place ( like say freedom of speech , wherever that concept applies ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>there is commercial censorship, and there is political.net neutrality deals with the former, not the latter, as the latter is better covered mechanisms already in place (like say freedom of speech, wherever that concept applies).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460944</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30466660</id>
	<title>Is there ANY country that isnt doing this crap?</title>
	<author>jonwil</author>
	<datestamp>1259671980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is there ANY country that one could move to that has no civil liberties or human rights violations?<br>Many of the things that western governments are doing in the name of fighting terrorists/child porn/drugs/criminals/etc are just as evil as the likes of the GESTAPO, STASI, KGB or any of the other major secret police organizations of the 20th century's great dictatorships.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is there ANY country that one could move to that has no civil liberties or human rights violations ? Many of the things that western governments are doing in the name of fighting terrorists/child porn/drugs/criminals/etc are just as evil as the likes of the GESTAPO , STASI , KGB or any of the other major secret police organizations of the 20th century 's great dictatorships .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is there ANY country that one could move to that has no civil liberties or human rights violations?Many of the things that western governments are doing in the name of fighting terrorists/child porn/drugs/criminals/etc are just as evil as the likes of the GESTAPO, STASI, KGB or any of the other major secret police organizations of the 20th century's great dictatorships.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30461634</id>
	<title>Re:You mean like Ireland's blasphemy laws?</title>
	<author>jocabergs</author>
	<datestamp>1259697900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>A law against blasphemy... Blasphemy I say, this will not stand!!!</htmltext>
<tokenext>A law against blasphemy... Blasphemy I say , this will not stand ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A law against blasphemy... Blasphemy I say, this will not stand!!
!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460442</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30467220</id>
	<title>Re:Democracy ?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259675100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No the Royal familiy coverage is ENTERTAINMENT not politics. Actually we do have a defacto constitution:</p><p>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution\_of\_the\_United\_Kingdom</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No the Royal familiy coverage is ENTERTAINMENT not politics .
Actually we do have a defacto constitution : http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution \ _of \ _the \ _United \ _Kingdom</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No the Royal familiy coverage is ENTERTAINMENT not politics.
Actually we do have a defacto constitution:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution\_of\_the\_United\_Kingdom</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30461224</id>
	<title>Re:Web sites on Double Secret Probation</title>
	<author>Jeremy Erwin</author>
	<datestamp>1259696160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You might at least have tried to reference <i>Hadrian's wall</i></p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You might at least have tried to reference Hadrian 's wall</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You might at least have tried to reference Hadrian's wall</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460378</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30463770</id>
	<title>Re:You mean like Ireland's blasphemy laws?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259661600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Ireland passed laws recently against uttering "blasphemy" and no one batted an eye...except on Twitter.</p><p>A lot of this is getting swept under the rug, and it both shocks and appalls me.</p></div><p>Irelands blasphemy law was bad, but its not a patch on the police state that the UK has become..</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ireland passed laws recently against uttering " blasphemy " and no one batted an eye...except on Twitter.A lot of this is getting swept under the rug , and it both shocks and appalls me.Irelands blasphemy law was bad , but its not a patch on the police state that the UK has become. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ireland passed laws recently against uttering "blasphemy" and no one batted an eye...except on Twitter.A lot of this is getting swept under the rug, and it both shocks and appalls me.Irelands blasphemy law was bad, but its not a patch on the police state that the UK has become..
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460442</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460842</id>
	<title>Re:Democracy ?</title>
	<author>0123456</author>
	<datestamp>1259694780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Labour were elected by 22\% of eligible voters. Worse than that, in England the Tories got more votes than Labour, but the English still got a Labour government because of votes from Scotland and Wales, which now have their own Parliaments.</p><p>No party in the UK can get a majority of the votes because they're all useless. And, in any case, most of the laws now come from Brussels, not London.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Labour were elected by 22 \ % of eligible voters .
Worse than that , in England the Tories got more votes than Labour , but the English still got a Labour government because of votes from Scotland and Wales , which now have their own Parliaments.No party in the UK can get a majority of the votes because they 're all useless .
And , in any case , most of the laws now come from Brussels , not London .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Labour were elected by 22\% of eligible voters.
Worse than that, in England the Tories got more votes than Labour, but the English still got a Labour government because of votes from Scotland and Wales, which now have their own Parliaments.No party in the UK can get a majority of the votes because they're all useless.
And, in any case, most of the laws now come from Brussels, not London.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460474</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30465762</id>
	<title>Re:Democracy ?</title>
	<author>SanguineV</author>
	<datestamp>1259668020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sadly it takes more than rote memorisation. You would need "every citizen" (or a decent majority) to understand their rights AND be willing to keep them in mind day-to-day AND be willing to act to protect them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sadly it takes more than rote memorisation .
You would need " every citizen " ( or a decent majority ) to understand their rights AND be willing to keep them in mind day-to-day AND be willing to act to protect them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sadly it takes more than rote memorisation.
You would need "every citizen" (or a decent majority) to understand their rights AND be willing to keep them in mind day-to-day AND be willing to act to protect them.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460978</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30461142</id>
	<title>Re:What happened to you, UK? You used to be cool</title>
	<author>the\_womble</author>
	<datestamp>1259695920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What happened? We voted Labour thinking they could not possibly be worse than the conservatives, and they were determined to prove us wrong.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What happened ?
We voted Labour thinking they could not possibly be worse than the conservatives , and they were determined to prove us wrong .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What happened?
We voted Labour thinking they could not possibly be worse than the conservatives, and they were determined to prove us wrong.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460392</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460978</id>
	<title>Re:Democracy ?</title>
	<author>jameskojiro</author>
	<datestamp>1259695320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>" In the infaliable United States Democracy (in which I do not reside) - those people have their democratic rights MEMORIZED, printed off, laminated, and FRAMED above their mantlepiece.  "</p><p>If only every citizen in the United States did this then the United States would be a somewhat decent country.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" In the infaliable United States Democracy ( in which I do not reside ) - those people have their democratic rights MEMORIZED , printed off , laminated , and FRAMED above their mantlepiece .
" If only every citizen in the United States did this then the United States would be a somewhat decent country .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>" In the infaliable United States Democracy (in which I do not reside) - those people have their democratic rights MEMORIZED, printed off, laminated, and FRAMED above their mantlepiece.
"If only every citizen in the United States did this then the United States would be a somewhat decent country.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460600</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460908</id>
	<title>Re:Democracy ?</title>
	<author>onedotzero</author>
	<datestamp>1259695020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Thanks to the EU and its various treaties, the word 'queen' doesn't mean anything anymore. She may still be referred to as such, but she is now a citizen just like the rest of us: <a href="http://archbishop-cranmer.blogspot.com/2008/06/royal-assent-of-treaty-of-lisbon.html" title="blogspot.com">http://archbishop-cranmer.blogspot.com/2008/06/royal-assent-of-treaty-of-lisbon.html</a> [blogspot.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Thanks to the EU and its various treaties , the word 'queen ' does n't mean anything anymore .
She may still be referred to as such , but she is now a citizen just like the rest of us : http : //archbishop-cranmer.blogspot.com/2008/06/royal-assent-of-treaty-of-lisbon.html [ blogspot.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thanks to the EU and its various treaties, the word 'queen' doesn't mean anything anymore.
She may still be referred to as such, but she is now a citizen just like the rest of us: http://archbishop-cranmer.blogspot.com/2008/06/royal-assent-of-treaty-of-lisbon.html [blogspot.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460600</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30461336</id>
	<title>Might as well just rename it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259696580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>the Interlink ala V for Vendetta.  It still amazes me that the people of Great Britain allow their government to use the works of George Orwell as instruction manuals.</htmltext>
<tokenext>the Interlink ala V for Vendetta .
It still amazes me that the people of Great Britain allow their government to use the works of George Orwell as instruction manuals .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the Interlink ala V for Vendetta.
It still amazes me that the people of Great Britain allow their government to use the works of George Orwell as instruction manuals.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460478</id>
	<title>What technical obligation to ISPs?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259693580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Have they never heard of tunneling or proxies, are ISP's going to be liable for failing to prevent that?  Pointless article about a pointless clause in a pointless bill by the pointless government of an increasingly pointless country.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Have they never heard of tunneling or proxies , are ISP 's going to be liable for failing to prevent that ?
Pointless article about a pointless clause in a pointless bill by the pointless government of an increasingly pointless country .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have they never heard of tunneling or proxies, are ISP's going to be liable for failing to prevent that?
Pointless article about a pointless clause in a pointless bill by the pointless government of an increasingly pointless country.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30461804</id>
	<title>Re:You mean like Ireland's blasphemy laws?</title>
	<author>Shakrai</author>
	<datestamp>1259698620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>In the state of SC you cannot legally hold public office if you don't believe in a supreme being. It doesn't state any specific one (so whether you're Muslim/Christian/Hindu/etc you're covered), but if you're an admitted atheist you can't legally hold office.</p></div><p>In the State of New York it's technically a misdemeanor to commit adultery.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>In the state of SC you can not legally hold public office if you do n't believe in a supreme being .
It does n't state any specific one ( so whether you 're Muslim/Christian/Hindu/etc you 're covered ) , but if you 're an admitted atheist you ca n't legally hold office.In the State of New York it 's technically a misdemeanor to commit adultery .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the state of SC you cannot legally hold public office if you don't believe in a supreme being.
It doesn't state any specific one (so whether you're Muslim/Christian/Hindu/etc you're covered), but if you're an admitted atheist you can't legally hold office.In the State of New York it's technically a misdemeanor to commit adultery.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30461676</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460944</id>
	<title>A preview of "net neutrality"</title>
	<author>bonch</author>
	<datestamp>1259695200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just think, there are people who want to hand over regulation of internet traffic to the government under the name of "net neutrality," yet here we have a government proving that it would happily censor content.  Imagine what would happen once lobbyists convinced bribed politicians to regulate things like torrent traffic in order to prevent "economic terrorism."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just think , there are people who want to hand over regulation of internet traffic to the government under the name of " net neutrality , " yet here we have a government proving that it would happily censor content .
Imagine what would happen once lobbyists convinced bribed politicians to regulate things like torrent traffic in order to prevent " economic terrorism .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just think, there are people who want to hand over regulation of internet traffic to the government under the name of "net neutrality," yet here we have a government proving that it would happily censor content.
Imagine what would happen once lobbyists convinced bribed politicians to regulate things like torrent traffic in order to prevent "economic terrorism.
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460474</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30461676</id>
	<title>Re:You mean like Ireland's blasphemy laws?</title>
	<author>MBGMorden</author>
	<datestamp>1259698020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's ok - the US is screwed up in lots of places too.  In the state of SC you cannot legally hold public office if you don't believe in a supreme being.  It doesn't state any specific one (so whether you're Muslim/Christian/Hindu/etc you're covered), but if you're an admitted atheist you can't legally hold office.</p><p>It's one of those old laws, but still.  Heck though nobody observed the law anymore, interracial marriage in South Carolina was technically illegal until <b>1998</b>.  And the vote to repeal it (again, in 1998)?  Yeah, it did pass, but 38\% voted AGAINST repealing the law.</p><p>I'm convinced that the world as a whole may just be too messed up to recover from.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's ok - the US is screwed up in lots of places too .
In the state of SC you can not legally hold public office if you do n't believe in a supreme being .
It does n't state any specific one ( so whether you 're Muslim/Christian/Hindu/etc you 're covered ) , but if you 're an admitted atheist you ca n't legally hold office.It 's one of those old laws , but still .
Heck though nobody observed the law anymore , interracial marriage in South Carolina was technically illegal until 1998 .
And the vote to repeal it ( again , in 1998 ) ?
Yeah , it did pass , but 38 \ % voted AGAINST repealing the law.I 'm convinced that the world as a whole may just be too messed up to recover from .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's ok - the US is screwed up in lots of places too.
In the state of SC you cannot legally hold public office if you don't believe in a supreme being.
It doesn't state any specific one (so whether you're Muslim/Christian/Hindu/etc you're covered), but if you're an admitted atheist you can't legally hold office.It's one of those old laws, but still.
Heck though nobody observed the law anymore, interracial marriage in South Carolina was technically illegal until 1998.
And the vote to repeal it (again, in 1998)?
Yeah, it did pass, but 38\% voted AGAINST repealing the law.I'm convinced that the world as a whole may just be too messed up to recover from.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30472322</id>
	<title>Re:I should complain</title>
	<author>u38cg</author>
	<datestamp>1261058640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Meh.  My MP is Alistair Darling.  I've been trying to get a constituency interview with him for the last two years.  However, his majority is only 7000 - we might see him out yet...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Meh .
My MP is Alistair Darling .
I 've been trying to get a constituency interview with him for the last two years .
However , his majority is only 7000 - we might see him out yet.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Meh.
My MP is Alistair Darling.
I've been trying to get a constituency interview with him for the last two years.
However, his majority is only 7000 - we might see him out yet...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30463010</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30461494</id>
	<title>Re:Democracy ?</title>
	<author>asdfghjklqwertyuiop</author>
	<datestamp>1259697300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Democracy and freedom of speech don't necessarily go hand-in-hand. Just ask your nearest conservative religious idiot.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Democracy and freedom of speech do n't necessarily go hand-in-hand .
Just ask your nearest conservative religious idiot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Democracy and freedom of speech don't necessarily go hand-in-hand.
Just ask your nearest conservative religious idiot.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460474</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460758</id>
	<title>This isn't even the worst part of the proposal</title>
	<author>ais523</author>
	<datestamp>1259694480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>See <a href="http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld200910/ldbills/001/10001.13-19.html#j164" title="parliament.uk">http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld200910/ldbills/001/10001.13-19.html#j164</a> [parliament.uk]. The proposal also gives the Secretary of State the rights to a) decide the punishment for copyright infringement, and b) redefine what a copyright infringement is. Therefore, he can effectively jail, or worse, anyone he likes for no reason. Also, the law gives him the power to rewrite the law itself; there are some restrictions, but he can just rewrite it to remove them. In short, passing this proposal would give Lord Mandelson a complete dictatorship over the UK. (If you don't believe me, read it yourself; the only meaningful restriction is to have a draft of the changes approved by parliament, and it would be easy enough to slip in a removal of that restriction at the same time as another change.)</htmltext>
<tokenext>See http : //www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld200910/ldbills/001/10001.13-19.html # j164 [ parliament.uk ] .
The proposal also gives the Secretary of State the rights to a ) decide the punishment for copyright infringement , and b ) redefine what a copyright infringement is .
Therefore , he can effectively jail , or worse , anyone he likes for no reason .
Also , the law gives him the power to rewrite the law itself ; there are some restrictions , but he can just rewrite it to remove them .
In short , passing this proposal would give Lord Mandelson a complete dictatorship over the UK .
( If you do n't believe me , read it yourself ; the only meaningful restriction is to have a draft of the changes approved by parliament , and it would be easy enough to slip in a removal of that restriction at the same time as another change .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>See http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld200910/ldbills/001/10001.13-19.html#j164 [parliament.uk].
The proposal also gives the Secretary of State the rights to a) decide the punishment for copyright infringement, and b) redefine what a copyright infringement is.
Therefore, he can effectively jail, or worse, anyone he likes for no reason.
Also, the law gives him the power to rewrite the law itself; there are some restrictions, but he can just rewrite it to remove them.
In short, passing this proposal would give Lord Mandelson a complete dictatorship over the UK.
(If you don't believe me, read it yourself; the only meaningful restriction is to have a draft of the changes approved by parliament, and it would be easy enough to slip in a removal of that restriction at the same time as another change.
)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460546</id>
	<title>Not required to publish</title>
	<author>Thanshin</author>
	<datestamp>1259693760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not required to publish? That's nothing. In the next planned amend the Secretary of State won't even have to know.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not required to publish ?
That 's nothing .
In the next planned amend the Secretary of State wo n't even have to know .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not required to publish?
That's nothing.
In the next planned amend the Secretary of State won't even have to know.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30461466</id>
	<title>Re:This isn't even the worst part of the proposal</title>
	<author>BJ\_Covert\_Action</author>
	<datestamp>1259697120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>In short, passing this proposal would give Lord Mandelson a complete dictatorship over the UK.</p></div><p>
"Remember, remember the fifth of November,<br>
The Gunpowder Treason and Plot. <br>
I know of no reason,<br>
The Gunpowder Treason,<br>
Should ever be forgot."</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>In short , passing this proposal would give Lord Mandelson a complete dictatorship over the UK .
" Remember , remember the fifth of November , The Gunpowder Treason and Plot .
I know of no reason , The Gunpowder Treason , Should ever be forgot .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In short, passing this proposal would give Lord Mandelson a complete dictatorship over the UK.
"Remember, remember the fifth of November,
The Gunpowder Treason and Plot.
I know of no reason,
The Gunpowder Treason,
Should ever be forgot.
"
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460654</id>
	<title>Very different situation than Australia</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259694120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>There, they want to censor everyone; the UK proposal would only be used against bad guys.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</htmltext>
<tokenext>There , they want to censor everyone ; the UK proposal would only be used against bad guys .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There, they want to censor everyone; the UK proposal would only be used against bad guys.
:)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30461080</id>
	<title>We need a distributed fragmented encrypted layer</title>
	<author>presidenteloco</author>
	<datestamp>1259695740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>To maintain some semblance of freedom of communication,<br>we will probably have to try to standardize on a thin layer over current<br>net protocols which provides:<br>1. Encryption of transmitted data routinely<br>2. Encryption on disk of data<br>3. Distribution of any particular "page" of data into many<br>redundant encrypted fragments around the world that know how<br>to coalesce on demand.<br>4. Automatic mobility of such data fragments, such that they<br>migrate, and seek newer and more reliable storage for themselves.<br>5. DHTs for finding stuff<br>6. Onion routing (at least a few hops standard)</p><p>That ought to do for starters.</p><p>Make it available as a trivially easy install on multiple platforms<br>which can use standard web protocols as a base transport<br>layer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>To maintain some semblance of freedom of communication,we will probably have to try to standardize on a thin layer over currentnet protocols which provides : 1 .
Encryption of transmitted data routinely2 .
Encryption on disk of data3 .
Distribution of any particular " page " of data into manyredundant encrypted fragments around the world that know howto coalesce on demand.4 .
Automatic mobility of such data fragments , such that theymigrate , and seek newer and more reliable storage for themselves.5 .
DHTs for finding stuff6 .
Onion routing ( at least a few hops standard ) That ought to do for starters.Make it available as a trivially easy install on multiple platformswhich can use standard web protocols as a base transportlayer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To maintain some semblance of freedom of communication,we will probably have to try to standardize on a thin layer over currentnet protocols which provides:1.
Encryption of transmitted data routinely2.
Encryption on disk of data3.
Distribution of any particular "page" of data into manyredundant encrypted fragments around the world that know howto coalesce on demand.4.
Automatic mobility of such data fragments, such that theymigrate, and seek newer and more reliable storage for themselves.5.
DHTs for finding stuff6.
Onion routing (at least a few hops standard)That ought to do for starters.Make it available as a trivially easy install on multiple platformswhich can use standard web protocols as a base transportlayer.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30464454</id>
	<title>Who cares?</title>
	<author>dgriff</author>
	<datestamp>1259664060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Let them have their little law if it makes them feel better then let's see them try and enforce it. The first time they try it will become a cause c&#233;l&#232;bre via Twitter etc and they'll become a laughing stock with more people reading the banned site than would otherwise.
<br> <br>
E.g. see what happened over the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trafigura#Superinjunction" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Trafigura Super-injunction</a> [wikipedia.org].</htmltext>
<tokenext>Let them have their little law if it makes them feel better then let 's see them try and enforce it .
The first time they try it will become a cause c   l   bre via Twitter etc and they 'll become a laughing stock with more people reading the banned site than would otherwise .
E.g. see what happened over the Trafigura Super-injunction [ wikipedia.org ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let them have their little law if it makes them feel better then let's see them try and enforce it.
The first time they try it will become a cause célèbre via Twitter etc and they'll become a laughing stock with more people reading the banned site than would otherwise.
E.g. see what happened over the Trafigura Super-injunction [wikipedia.org].</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460766</id>
	<title>The offending piece:</title>
	<author>fiannaFailMan</author>
	<datestamp>1259694480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm usually sceptical about<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. summaries and their accuracy, so I looked a little deeper into this one before commenting.</p><p>From the parliamentary document:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>124H    Obligations to limit internet access</p><p>20 (1)   The Secretary of State may at any time by order impose a technical obligation on internet service providers if the Secretary of State considers it appropriate in view of&mdash;</p><p>(a)  an assessment carried out or steps taken by OFCOM under section 124G; or</p><p>25 (b)   any other consideration.</p></div><p>The "any other consideration" part is what would concern me. Yup, this looks like the real deal. Gives the SoS a lot of power with little oversight.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm usually sceptical about / .
summaries and their accuracy , so I looked a little deeper into this one before commenting.From the parliamentary document : 124H Obligations to limit internet access20 ( 1 ) The Secretary of State may at any time by order impose a technical obligation on internet service providers if the Secretary of State considers it appropriate in view of    ( a ) an assessment carried out or steps taken by OFCOM under section 124G ; or25 ( b ) any other consideration.The " any other consideration " part is what would concern me .
Yup , this looks like the real deal .
Gives the SoS a lot of power with little oversight .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm usually sceptical about /.
summaries and their accuracy, so I looked a little deeper into this one before commenting.From the parliamentary document:124H    Obligations to limit internet access20 (1)   The Secretary of State may at any time by order impose a technical obligation on internet service providers if the Secretary of State considers it appropriate in view of—(a)  an assessment carried out or steps taken by OFCOM under section 124G; or25 (b)   any other consideration.The "any other consideration" part is what would concern me.
Yup, this looks like the real deal.
Gives the SoS a lot of power with little oversight.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30466866</id>
	<title>Re:You mean like Ireland's blasphemy laws?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259673000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Here in Northern Ireland there is an entire constituency that has elected <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iris\_Robinson#Comments\_about\_homosexuality" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Iris Robinson</a> [wikipedia.org]. It is frightening to think that all those people believed she was best for the job.</p><p>The really rightening thing is <em>maybe they were right</em>.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Here in Northern Ireland there is an entire constituency that has elected Iris Robinson [ wikipedia.org ] .
It is frightening to think that all those people believed she was best for the job.The really rightening thing is maybe they were right .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here in Northern Ireland there is an entire constituency that has elected Iris Robinson [wikipedia.org].
It is frightening to think that all those people believed she was best for the job.The really rightening thing is maybe they were right.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30461676</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30462082</id>
	<title>Re:Web sites on Double Secret Probation</title>
	<author>memnock</author>
	<datestamp>1259699400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr></p><div class="quote"><p>... (and worrying)<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></div><p>what? me worry?</p><p>i don't see the problem. to me, it's like the privacy argument: 'if you have nothing to hide, you don't need privacy." that's what all those guilt-free people say, right? i think the same idea applies here.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>... ( and worrying ) ...what ?
me worry ? i do n't see the problem .
to me , it 's like the privacy argument : 'if you have nothing to hide , you do n't need privacy .
" that 's what all those guilt-free people say , right ?
i think the same idea applies here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> ... (and worrying) ...what?
me worry?i don't see the problem.
to me, it's like the privacy argument: 'if you have nothing to hide, you don't need privacy.
" that's what all those guilt-free people say, right?
i think the same idea applies here.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460378</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30471364</id>
	<title>Re:You mean like Ireland's blasphemy laws?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261048860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually a number of Irish blogs took issue with it, so it wasn't just Twitter.</p><p>Despite the law being passed, nothing has changed in the land of Guinness and lepreachauns. They might as well have banned people talking about pink elephants. I mean, a huge chunk of Irish culture is based around people taking the piss out of everything and anything, so I'll be stunned if any court case brought under this law isn't laughed out of it - if they convict one person, they'll have to convict everyone bar the religious nutters, and there aren't enough of them to run the country on their own.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually a number of Irish blogs took issue with it , so it was n't just Twitter.Despite the law being passed , nothing has changed in the land of Guinness and lepreachauns .
They might as well have banned people talking about pink elephants .
I mean , a huge chunk of Irish culture is based around people taking the piss out of everything and anything , so I 'll be stunned if any court case brought under this law is n't laughed out of it - if they convict one person , they 'll have to convict everyone bar the religious nutters , and there are n't enough of them to run the country on their own .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually a number of Irish blogs took issue with it, so it wasn't just Twitter.Despite the law being passed, nothing has changed in the land of Guinness and lepreachauns.
They might as well have banned people talking about pink elephants.
I mean, a huge chunk of Irish culture is based around people taking the piss out of everything and anything, so I'll be stunned if any court case brought under this law isn't laughed out of it - if they convict one person, they'll have to convict everyone bar the religious nutters, and there aren't enough of them to run the country on their own.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460442</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460932</id>
	<title>Re:What happened to you, UK? You used to be cool</title>
	<author>hondo77</author>
	<datestamp>1259695140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>It was pretty cool until Lemmy moved to Hollywood.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It was pretty cool until Lemmy moved to Hollywood .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It was pretty cool until Lemmy moved to Hollywood.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460444</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460896</id>
	<title>ObHistoricalQuote</title>
	<author>idontgno</author>
	<datestamp>1259694960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them.</p><p>
--Frederick Douglass</p></div>
</blockquote></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them .
--Frederick Douglass</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them.
--Frederick Douglass

	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460442</id>
	<title>You mean like Ireland's blasphemy laws?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259693400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ireland passed laws recently against uttering "blasphemy" and no one batted an eye...except on Twitter.

A lot of this is getting swept under the rug, and it both shocks and appalls me.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ireland passed laws recently against uttering " blasphemy " and no one batted an eye...except on Twitter .
A lot of this is getting swept under the rug , and it both shocks and appalls me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ireland passed laws recently against uttering "blasphemy" and no one batted an eye...except on Twitter.
A lot of this is getting swept under the rug, and it both shocks and appalls me.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460872</id>
	<title>Re:What happened to you, UK? You used to be cool</title>
	<author>kenj0418</author>
	<datestamp>1259694900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The UK used to be cool?</p><p>When was this, when it was occupied by the Romans?</p></div><p>Maybe it was sometime after the 17th, and 18th centuries when they sent all of the religious nuts and criminals to the US and Australia, respectively.  At least Australia eventually recovered -- the US, not so much.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The UK used to be cool ? When was this , when it was occupied by the Romans ? Maybe it was sometime after the 17th , and 18th centuries when they sent all of the religious nuts and criminals to the US and Australia , respectively .
At least Australia eventually recovered -- the US , not so much .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The UK used to be cool?When was this, when it was occupied by the Romans?Maybe it was sometime after the 17th, and 18th centuries when they sent all of the religious nuts and criminals to the US and Australia, respectively.
At least Australia eventually recovered -- the US, not so much.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30466186</id>
	<title>This hasn't gone unnoticed</title>
	<author>Cederic</author>
	<datestamp>1259669580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My MP received a telephone call followed up by an email from me 3-4 weeks ago on this matter.</p><p>The Open Rights Group (at <a href="http://www.openrightsgroup.org/" title="openrightsgroup.org">http://www.openrightsgroup.org/</a> [openrightsgroup.org]) have promoted a campaign for their members and supporters to raise this not only to MPs but also to members of the House of Lords.</p><p>This is yet another draconian and easily abused piece of legislation that is declared as addressing something that isn't an issue, in a manner that allows its use for other purposes while failing to address the underlying issue in the first place.</p><p>I'm fucked off about it, but frankly there's not a whole lot more I can peacably do.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My MP received a telephone call followed up by an email from me 3-4 weeks ago on this matter.The Open Rights Group ( at http : //www.openrightsgroup.org/ [ openrightsgroup.org ] ) have promoted a campaign for their members and supporters to raise this not only to MPs but also to members of the House of Lords.This is yet another draconian and easily abused piece of legislation that is declared as addressing something that is n't an issue , in a manner that allows its use for other purposes while failing to address the underlying issue in the first place.I 'm fucked off about it , but frankly there 's not a whole lot more I can peacably do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My MP received a telephone call followed up by an email from me 3-4 weeks ago on this matter.The Open Rights Group (at http://www.openrightsgroup.org/ [openrightsgroup.org]) have promoted a campaign for their members and supporters to raise this not only to MPs but also to members of the House of Lords.This is yet another draconian and easily abused piece of legislation that is declared as addressing something that isn't an issue, in a manner that allows its use for other purposes while failing to address the underlying issue in the first place.I'm fucked off about it, but frankly there's not a whole lot more I can peacably do.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30463506</id>
	<title>Re:Democracy ?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259660520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No it's called INGSOC...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No it 's called INGSOC.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No it's called INGSOC...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460474</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30461752</id>
	<title>Re:What happened to you, UK? You used to be cool</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259698440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dear Foreigner,</p><p>Suck my balls.</p><p>Sincerely,</p><p>An American</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dear Foreigner,Suck my balls.Sincerely,An American</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dear Foreigner,Suck my balls.Sincerely,An American</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460872</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30465496</id>
	<title>Re:Bastards.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259667180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Orwellian delight.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Orwellian delight .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Orwellian delight.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460370</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30463478</id>
	<title>Re:You mean like Ireland's blasphemy laws?</title>
	<author>Myrimos</author>
	<datestamp>1259660460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The article from which  it looks like you drew your facts is <a href="http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/panelists/herb\_silverman/2009/12/atheists\_in\_office\_deja\_vu\_all\_over\_again.html" title="washingtonpost.com" rel="nofollow">here</a> [washingtonpost.com].  Also quoted therein: </p><p><div class="quote"><p>"Atheists are now eligible to run for any office in South Carolina, which means the provision against atheists is unenforceable."</p></div><p>The only defense I can offer for over a third of the South Carolina legislature voting not to overturn their anti-miscegenation laws is that, since the legislation was elected democratically, perhaps the constituents of South Carolina have exactly the kind of government they deserve.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The article from which it looks like you drew your facts is here [ washingtonpost.com ] .
Also quoted therein : " Atheists are now eligible to run for any office in South Carolina , which means the provision against atheists is unenforceable .
" The only defense I can offer for over a third of the South Carolina legislature voting not to overturn their anti-miscegenation laws is that , since the legislation was elected democratically , perhaps the constituents of South Carolina have exactly the kind of government they deserve .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The article from which  it looks like you drew your facts is here [washingtonpost.com].
Also quoted therein: "Atheists are now eligible to run for any office in South Carolina, which means the provision against atheists is unenforceable.
"The only defense I can offer for over a third of the South Carolina legislature voting not to overturn their anti-miscegenation laws is that, since the legislation was elected democratically, perhaps the constituents of South Carolina have exactly the kind of government they deserve.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30461676</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460816</id>
	<title>Re:What happened to you, UK? You used to be cool</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259694660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It might also include things the govt doesn't like. Maybe you've heard of Richard Tomlinson and Peter Wright? If not, look them up sometime and see how they were treated, and how the govt of the day banned their books in knee-jerk reactions and started character assassination jobs on them. I was there at the time, the TV "news", including the BBC, was complete propaganda at the behest of each govt. The books themselves didn't even contain anything particularly sensitive.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It might also include things the govt does n't like .
Maybe you 've heard of Richard Tomlinson and Peter Wright ?
If not , look them up sometime and see how they were treated , and how the govt of the day banned their books in knee-jerk reactions and started character assassination jobs on them .
I was there at the time , the TV " news " , including the BBC , was complete propaganda at the behest of each govt .
The books themselves did n't even contain anything particularly sensitive .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It might also include things the govt doesn't like.
Maybe you've heard of Richard Tomlinson and Peter Wright?
If not, look them up sometime and see how they were treated, and how the govt of the day banned their books in knee-jerk reactions and started character assassination jobs on them.
I was there at the time, the TV "news", including the BBC, was complete propaganda at the behest of each govt.
The books themselves didn't even contain anything particularly sensitive.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30461546</id>
	<title>Re:What happened to you, UK? You used to be cool</title>
	<author>pwizard2</author>
	<datestamp>1259697540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>They could at least give the semblance of rights to their citizens by putting up monitoring software and only catching the offenders.</p></div></blockquote><p>

or they could actually give rights to their citizens by doing nothing at all in regard to censorship.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>They could at least give the semblance of rights to their citizens by putting up monitoring software and only catching the offenders .
or they could actually give rights to their citizens by doing nothing at all in regard to censorship .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They could at least give the semblance of rights to their citizens by putting up monitoring software and only catching the offenders.
or they could actually give rights to their citizens by doing nothing at all in regard to censorship.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30470606</id>
	<title>Re:I should complain</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1261041060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Then the conservative party will take over and continue the same shit, they'll just sing a different song while doing it.</p><p>Much the same how it is in the US.</p><p>There's too much power to lose by repealing, or not continuing the trend.</p><p>This is about the time where people should be starting protests, or investing in ammunition.</p><p>but it wont happen, trashy reality TV keeps the brits and the americans happy, oh and cheap chinese goods made in a communist sweat shop.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Then the conservative party will take over and continue the same shit , they 'll just sing a different song while doing it.Much the same how it is in the US.There 's too much power to lose by repealing , or not continuing the trend.This is about the time where people should be starting protests , or investing in ammunition.but it wont happen , trashy reality TV keeps the brits and the americans happy , oh and cheap chinese goods made in a communist sweat shop .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Then the conservative party will take over and continue the same shit, they'll just sing a different song while doing it.Much the same how it is in the US.There's too much power to lose by repealing, or not continuing the trend.This is about the time where people should be starting protests, or investing in ammunition.but it wont happen, trashy reality TV keeps the brits and the americans happy, oh and cheap chinese goods made in a communist sweat shop.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30462488</id>
	<title>Re:What happened to you, UK? You used to be cool</title>
	<author>Nathrael</author>
	<datestamp>1259700480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet\_censorship\_in\_Australia" title="wikipedia.org">Australia?</a> [wikipedia.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Australia ?
[ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Australia?
[wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30463720</id>
	<title>Re:I love transparency!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259661420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <i>I don't care for censorship, <b>but I'm willing to listen if you say it's necessary.</b> I'll probably tell you to screw, but <b>I'll at least listen.</b> </i> </p><p>Then you're part of the problem, fucko.  Censorship advocates have placed themselves beyond all bounds of reason and human decency and deserve no more respect or attention than would a lunatic raving and pissing himself on a street corner.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't care for censorship , but I 'm willing to listen if you say it 's necessary .
I 'll probably tell you to screw , but I 'll at least listen .
Then you 're part of the problem , fucko .
Censorship advocates have placed themselves beyond all bounds of reason and human decency and deserve no more respect or attention than would a lunatic raving and pissing himself on a street corner .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> I don't care for censorship, but I'm willing to listen if you say it's necessary.
I'll probably tell you to screw, but I'll at least listen.
Then you're part of the problem, fucko.
Censorship advocates have placed themselves beyond all bounds of reason and human decency and deserve no more respect or attention than would a lunatic raving and pissing himself on a street corner.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460474</id>
	<title>Democracy ?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259693520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>And is that called a democracy? I think Britain is a very poor model of democracy, especially when compared to the rest of European countries. Do we still sound credible when we criticize China for internet censorship?</htmltext>
<tokenext>And is that called a democracy ?
I think Britain is a very poor model of democracy , especially when compared to the rest of European countries .
Do we still sound credible when we criticize China for internet censorship ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And is that called a democracy?
I think Britain is a very poor model of democracy, especially when compared to the rest of European countries.
Do we still sound credible when we criticize China for internet censorship?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30461892</id>
	<title>Re:Very different situation than Australia</title>
	<author>gink1</author>
	<datestamp>1259698860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Once you get something like this started, it is a simple matter to expand the scope to "everyone".</p><p>They are just getting their foot in the door now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Once you get something like this started , it is a simple matter to expand the scope to " everyone " .They are just getting their foot in the door now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Once you get something like this started, it is a simple matter to expand the scope to "everyone".They are just getting their foot in the door now.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460654</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30461838</id>
	<title>Re:This isn't even the worst part of the proposal</title>
	<author>.deepershade</author>
	<datestamp>1259698680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>It wouldn't give Mandelson any power, as he's not an elected member of parliament, he cannot enact or enforce any law.<br>
He's been forced to resign once and fired for fraud. After that he was effectively banned from standing as a member of parliament. As such, he was given a job in europe. But Brown being a corrupt douche wanted him back, and so gave him the lordship and hence a seat in the House of Lords. That enabled brown to hire him as business secretary, but he still has no power, merely taking an advisery role.<br>
He still has influence and as such is still a danger and a threat to the peoples of this nation, but legally, he has no power.<br> <br>

As for the bill. I wouldn't worry too much. Parliament is out for xmas and will be back late jan early feb, after which the conservatives and lib dems are going to use every opportunity to show up labour. This bill would be a nice bit of ammo, thats if it even gets read. Rumour is that the gov is going to call an early election, march, april time. The moment the election is called, parliament is dissolved and the nation goes into a state of purdah, meaning nothing happens. No laws get passed, changed, everything stays as is til the election is won.<br> And because this proposal is a labour one, when the cons win (and they will), they're never going to be seen stealing a labour policy, because thats exactly what labour have been doing to the cons since Blair was first elected.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It would n't give Mandelson any power , as he 's not an elected member of parliament , he can not enact or enforce any law .
He 's been forced to resign once and fired for fraud .
After that he was effectively banned from standing as a member of parliament .
As such , he was given a job in europe .
But Brown being a corrupt douche wanted him back , and so gave him the lordship and hence a seat in the House of Lords .
That enabled brown to hire him as business secretary , but he still has no power , merely taking an advisery role .
He still has influence and as such is still a danger and a threat to the peoples of this nation , but legally , he has no power .
As for the bill .
I would n't worry too much .
Parliament is out for xmas and will be back late jan early feb , after which the conservatives and lib dems are going to use every opportunity to show up labour .
This bill would be a nice bit of ammo , thats if it even gets read .
Rumour is that the gov is going to call an early election , march , april time .
The moment the election is called , parliament is dissolved and the nation goes into a state of purdah , meaning nothing happens .
No laws get passed , changed , everything stays as is til the election is won .
And because this proposal is a labour one , when the cons win ( and they will ) , they 're never going to be seen stealing a labour policy , because thats exactly what labour have been doing to the cons since Blair was first elected .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It wouldn't give Mandelson any power, as he's not an elected member of parliament, he cannot enact or enforce any law.
He's been forced to resign once and fired for fraud.
After that he was effectively banned from standing as a member of parliament.
As such, he was given a job in europe.
But Brown being a corrupt douche wanted him back, and so gave him the lordship and hence a seat in the House of Lords.
That enabled brown to hire him as business secretary, but he still has no power, merely taking an advisery role.
He still has influence and as such is still a danger and a threat to the peoples of this nation, but legally, he has no power.
As for the bill.
I wouldn't worry too much.
Parliament is out for xmas and will be back late jan early feb, after which the conservatives and lib dems are going to use every opportunity to show up labour.
This bill would be a nice bit of ammo, thats if it even gets read.
Rumour is that the gov is going to call an early election, march, april time.
The moment the election is called, parliament is dissolved and the nation goes into a state of purdah, meaning nothing happens.
No laws get passed, changed, everything stays as is til the election is won.
And because this proposal is a labour one, when the cons win (and they will), they're never going to be seen stealing a labour policy, because thats exactly what labour have been doing to the cons since Blair was first elected.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30467946</id>
	<title>Re:This isn't even the worst part of the proposal</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259679780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"passing this proposal would give Lord Mandelson a complete dictatorship over the UK"</p><p>Nothing is new there. Isreal and people with loyalty to it have controlled Britain since WWII.</p><p>Haven't you noticed how the way the British government treats the British people these days closely resembles the way that Israel treats the Palestinians? ID cards to go anywhere. Permission required to do anything. Survelliance everywhere.</p><p>Britain is just like the West Bank or Gaza and the British people are the Palestinians.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" passing this proposal would give Lord Mandelson a complete dictatorship over the UK " Nothing is new there .
Isreal and people with loyalty to it have controlled Britain since WWII.Have n't you noticed how the way the British government treats the British people these days closely resembles the way that Israel treats the Palestinians ?
ID cards to go anywhere .
Permission required to do anything .
Survelliance everywhere.Britain is just like the West Bank or Gaza and the British people are the Palestinians .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"passing this proposal would give Lord Mandelson a complete dictatorship over the UK"Nothing is new there.
Isreal and people with loyalty to it have controlled Britain since WWII.Haven't you noticed how the way the British government treats the British people these days closely resembles the way that Israel treats the Palestinians?
ID cards to go anywhere.
Permission required to do anything.
Survelliance everywhere.Britain is just like the West Bank or Gaza and the British people are the Palestinians.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30466156</id>
	<title>Re:What happened to you, UK? You used to be cool</title>
	<author>Foobar of Borg</author>
	<datestamp>1259669460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>At least Australia eventually recovered -- the US, not so much.</p></div>
</blockquote><p>At least Australia got the prisoners.  Why the Fuck did we have to get the religious nuts???</p><p>
In related news: Oral Roberts is dead.  Which raises the question: Why, God?  Why is Pat Robertson still alive???  Bill Hicks is dead at 36, and that rat fucker is still alive at 79?  I thought you were supposed to be a just God?  What the fuck are you doing here???</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>At least Australia eventually recovered -- the US , not so much .
At least Australia got the prisoners .
Why the Fuck did we have to get the religious nuts ? ? ?
In related news : Oral Roberts is dead .
Which raises the question : Why , God ?
Why is Pat Robertson still alive ? ? ?
Bill Hicks is dead at 36 , and that rat fucker is still alive at 79 ?
I thought you were supposed to be a just God ?
What the fuck are you doing here ? ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At least Australia eventually recovered -- the US, not so much.
At least Australia got the prisoners.
Why the Fuck did we have to get the religious nuts???
In related news: Oral Roberts is dead.
Which raises the question: Why, God?
Why is Pat Robertson still alive???
Bill Hicks is dead at 36, and that rat fucker is still alive at 79?
I thought you were supposed to be a just God?
What the fuck are you doing here??
?
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460806</id>
	<title>They're Jealeous of</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259694600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Australia !!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Australia ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Australia !!
!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30465560</id>
	<title>Coders need to code</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259667360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Freenet was fuc/orked by a Christian fundamentalist, splitting the community, and following down questionable technological paths (small world darknet) which failed in the real world.</p><p>Somebody needs to take it over and fix it. Where the hell is 1.0?</p><p>
&nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Freenet was fuc/orked by a Christian fundamentalist , splitting the community , and following down questionable technological paths ( small world darknet ) which failed in the real world.Somebody needs to take it over and fix it .
Where the hell is 1.0 ?
 </tokentext>
<sentencetext>Freenet was fuc/orked by a Christian fundamentalist, splitting the community, and following down questionable technological paths (small world darknet) which failed in the real world.Somebody needs to take it over and fix it.
Where the hell is 1.0?
 </sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460642</id>
	<title>So What are they REALLY after? ACTA?</title>
	<author>plasmacutter</author>
	<datestamp>1259694120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We all know this kind of outrageous proposal won't fly, so what's the next "iteration" this will be compared to to make it look "reasonable"? The question is what are these people actually after?</p><p>
&nbsp; It seems like this is yet another maneuver to "Frame" the debate around the upcoming ACTA clauses.</p><p>If enough of these outrageous ideas are being proposed, a simple removal of service for "egregious offenders" will look tame.</p><p>Remember, you have to boil the frog SLOWLY, and part of that involves acclimating the frog to heat before it goes in the pot!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We all know this kind of outrageous proposal wo n't fly , so what 's the next " iteration " this will be compared to to make it look " reasonable " ?
The question is what are these people actually after ?
  It seems like this is yet another maneuver to " Frame " the debate around the upcoming ACTA clauses.If enough of these outrageous ideas are being proposed , a simple removal of service for " egregious offenders " will look tame.Remember , you have to boil the frog SLOWLY , and part of that involves acclimating the frog to heat before it goes in the pot !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We all know this kind of outrageous proposal won't fly, so what's the next "iteration" this will be compared to to make it look "reasonable"?
The question is what are these people actually after?
  It seems like this is yet another maneuver to "Frame" the debate around the upcoming ACTA clauses.If enough of these outrageous ideas are being proposed, a simple removal of service for "egregious offenders" will look tame.Remember, you have to boil the frog SLOWLY, and part of that involves acclimating the frog to heat before it goes in the pot!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460930</id>
	<title>Re:Very different situation than Australia</title>
	<author>idontgno</author>
	<datestamp>1259695140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well, that's a difference that makes no difference. A nation made up entirely of transported convicts and ne'er-do-wells is, by definition, all bad guys.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , that 's a difference that makes no difference .
A nation made up entirely of transported convicts and ne'er-do-wells is , by definition , all bad guys .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, that's a difference that makes no difference.
A nation made up entirely of transported convicts and ne'er-do-wells is, by definition, all bad guys.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30466432</id>
	<title>+1 DoublePlusGood</title>
	<author>Mr. Roadkill</author>
	<datestamp>1259670660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>IngSoc is now free from crimethink.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>IngSoc is now free from crimethink .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>IngSoc is now free from crimethink.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30465150</id>
	<title>Re:Democracy ?</title>
	<author>david\_thornley</author>
	<datestamp>1259666280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
Heck, I just keep the Constitution on my iPhone.  There's more than one app for that.  I'm a lot more likely to have my iPhone on me than my mantlepiece when I want to consult the Constitution.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Heck , I just keep the Constitution on my iPhone .
There 's more than one app for that .
I 'm a lot more likely to have my iPhone on me than my mantlepiece when I want to consult the Constitution .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Heck, I just keep the Constitution on my iPhone.
There's more than one app for that.
I'm a lot more likely to have my iPhone on me than my mantlepiece when I want to consult the Constitution.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460370</id>
	<title>Bastards.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259693100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Fucking bastards.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Fucking bastards .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Fucking bastards.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_16_1653218.30460444</id>
	<title>Re:What happened to you, UK? You used to be cool</title>
	<author>Monkeedude1212</author>
	<datestamp>1259693400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The UK used to be cool?</p><p>When was this, when it was occupied by the Romans?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The UK used to be cool ? When was this , when it was occupied by the Romans ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The UK used to be cool?When was this, when it was occupied by the Romans?</sentencetext>
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