<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_12_15_0149246</id>
	<title>Microsoft Steals Code From Microblogging Startup</title>
	<author>kdawson</author>
	<datestamp>1260905820000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>Readers davidlougheed and TSHTF both let us know that microblogging service Plurk reported today that Microsoft China not only copied look and feel from its interface, but also <a href="http://blog.plurk.com/2009/12/14/microsoft-rips-plurk/">copied raw code</a> from Plurk's service, when it released its own microblogging service called MSN Juku (or Mclub). In instances of the code released on the Plurk blog, the layout, code structure, and variable names were very similar or in some cases 100\% identical. The story has been covered in <a href="http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/12/14/plurk-says-microsoft-stole-its-software-for-china-service/">multiple</a> <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/14/AR2009121401380.html">media</a> <a href="http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9142255/Twitter\_rival\_Plurk\_claims\_UI\_code\_ripped\_off\_by\_Microsoft\_China">sources</a>. The software theft is hypocritical, given Microsoft's past threats against <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124236052789422819.html">Chinese software piracy</a>."</htmltext>
<tokenext>Readers davidlougheed and TSHTF both let us know that microblogging service Plurk reported today that Microsoft China not only copied look and feel from its interface , but also copied raw code from Plurk 's service , when it released its own microblogging service called MSN Juku ( or Mclub ) .
In instances of the code released on the Plurk blog , the layout , code structure , and variable names were very similar or in some cases 100 \ % identical .
The story has been covered in multiple media sources .
The software theft is hypocritical , given Microsoft 's past threats against Chinese software piracy .
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<sentencetext>Readers davidlougheed and TSHTF both let us know that microblogging service Plurk reported today that Microsoft China not only copied look and feel from its interface, but also copied raw code from Plurk's service, when it released its own microblogging service called MSN Juku (or Mclub).
In instances of the code released on the Plurk blog, the layout, code structure, and variable names were very similar or in some cases 100\% identical.
The story has been covered in multiple media sources.
The software theft is hypocritical, given Microsoft's past threats against Chinese software piracy.
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</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30441772</id>
	<title>Re:Why is anyone surprised?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260871620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>You bothered posting this broad claim yet couldn't be bothered giving even a single source for it?</htmltext>
<tokenext>You bothered posting this broad claim yet could n't be bothered giving even a single source for it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You bothered posting this broad claim yet couldn't be bothered giving even a single source for it?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30441562</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30442170</id>
	<title>Re:Why does this kind of stories</title>
	<author>Tim C</author>
	<datestamp>1260877260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Because filesharers being sued for huge sums of money affects ordinary people; MS infringing on someone else's copyright does not.</p><p>Or in other words, the public doesn't care as it doesn't affect them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because filesharers being sued for huge sums of money affects ordinary people ; MS infringing on someone else 's copyright does not.Or in other words , the public does n't care as it does n't affect them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because filesharers being sued for huge sums of money affects ordinary people; MS infringing on someone else's copyright does not.Or in other words, the public doesn't care as it doesn't affect them.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30441512</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30441562</id>
	<title>Why is anyone surprised?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260869160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They've been doing this kind of thing for years. The history of personal computing is littered with the corpses of companies that invented something that Microsoft wanted and acquired by the expedient means of stealing it.<p>
Anyone who wants to dispute this needs to review history first. And anyone who doubts this also needs to review history. Has Microsoft changed their ways? Maybe - but it doesn't look like it given stories like this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They 've been doing this kind of thing for years .
The history of personal computing is littered with the corpses of companies that invented something that Microsoft wanted and acquired by the expedient means of stealing it .
Anyone who wants to dispute this needs to review history first .
And anyone who doubts this also needs to review history .
Has Microsoft changed their ways ?
Maybe - but it does n't look like it given stories like this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They've been doing this kind of thing for years.
The history of personal computing is littered with the corpses of companies that invented something that Microsoft wanted and acquired by the expedient means of stealing it.
Anyone who wants to dispute this needs to review history first.
And anyone who doubts this also needs to review history.
Has Microsoft changed their ways?
Maybe - but it doesn't look like it given stories like this.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30441968</id>
	<title>kdawson</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260874260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>this is a typical kdawson story, meant to flame the outrage and fog the mind.<p>
i bet this is a case of the bloggers seeing a line like " if 1 then: 3 " which is so generic and thinking it belongs to them SCO style.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>this is a typical kdawson story , meant to flame the outrage and fog the mind .
i bet this is a case of the bloggers seeing a line like " if 1 then : 3 " which is so generic and thinking it belongs to them SCO style .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>this is a typical kdawson story, meant to flame the outrage and fog the mind.
i bet this is a case of the bloggers seeing a line like " if 1 then: 3 " which is so generic and thinking it belongs to them SCO style.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30441506</id>
	<title>It's a difficult problem for MS</title>
	<author>HappyClown</author>
	<datestamp>1260868620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Of course it's not really Microsoft that copied it, it was someone <i>within</i> Microsoft, who clearly didn't think things through and is probably rather unlikely to be employed there much longer. Of course that doesn't mean it's not Microsoft's problem since they now have to do damage control due to the egg on their faces.<p>

As an aside, I wonder how feasible it is to put some automated checks in place to compare a signature of some code against every other known piece of open source (or otherwise?) out there to search for similarities?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Of course it 's not really Microsoft that copied it , it was someone within Microsoft , who clearly did n't think things through and is probably rather unlikely to be employed there much longer .
Of course that does n't mean it 's not Microsoft 's problem since they now have to do damage control due to the egg on their faces .
As an aside , I wonder how feasible it is to put some automated checks in place to compare a signature of some code against every other known piece of open source ( or otherwise ?
) out there to search for similarities ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of course it's not really Microsoft that copied it, it was someone within Microsoft, who clearly didn't think things through and is probably rather unlikely to be employed there much longer.
Of course that doesn't mean it's not Microsoft's problem since they now have to do damage control due to the egg on their faces.
As an aside, I wonder how feasible it is to put some automated checks in place to compare a signature of some code against every other known piece of open source (or otherwise?
) out there to search for similarities?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30441602</id>
	<title>BSD code?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260869820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe MS thought it was MIT/BSD licensed because this is what you get when you use that license.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe MS thought it was MIT/BSD licensed because this is what you get when you use that license .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe MS thought it was MIT/BSD licensed because this is what you get when you use that license.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30444358</id>
	<title>No comments?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260893820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hmm, I read the TFA and didn't see any mention of what copyright notices / licenses the code was under.  And I also notice that the code snippets shown have no comments.</p><p>So just to play devil's advocate....<br>1) javascript gets sent to the client browser<br>2) to make things faster and cheaper, plurk attempts to reduce bandwidth by stripping comments from the java script<br>3) what legal ramifications are there if I use code that was given to me(sent to my browser) that has no specified restrictions?</p><p>Oh, but this is slashdot..."DOWN WITH MICROSOFT"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hmm , I read the TFA and did n't see any mention of what copyright notices / licenses the code was under .
And I also notice that the code snippets shown have no comments.So just to play devil 's advocate....1 ) javascript gets sent to the client browser2 ) to make things faster and cheaper , plurk attempts to reduce bandwidth by stripping comments from the java script3 ) what legal ramifications are there if I use code that was given to me ( sent to my browser ) that has no specified restrictions ? Oh , but this is slashdot... " DOWN WITH MICROSOFT "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hmm, I read the TFA and didn't see any mention of what copyright notices / licenses the code was under.
And I also notice that the code snippets shown have no comments.So just to play devil's advocate....1) javascript gets sent to the client browser2) to make things faster and cheaper, plurk attempts to reduce bandwidth by stripping comments from the java script3) what legal ramifications are there if I use code that was given to me(sent to my browser) that has no specified restrictions?Oh, but this is slashdot..."DOWN WITH MICROSOFT"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30458874</id>
	<title>So they got caught...</title>
	<author>kapcom</author>
	<datestamp>1259687880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Microsoft is Microsoft... don't blame a particular county, this happens more often than we know.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Microsoft is Microsoft... do n't blame a particular county , this happens more often than we know .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Microsoft is Microsoft... don't blame a particular county, this happens more often than we know.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30469904</id>
	<title>Re:Why is anyone surprised?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259695740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>People always read too much into events like this. Microsoft is not a monolithic entity where every action is centrally planned and intentional.</p></div><p>But...but...the Bill Gates icon looks like The Borg!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>People always read too much into events like this .
Microsoft is not a monolithic entity where every action is centrally planned and intentional.But...but...the Bill Gates icon looks like The Borg !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People always read too much into events like this.
Microsoft is not a monolithic entity where every action is centrally planned and intentional.But...but...the Bill Gates icon looks like The Borg!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30441696</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30441854</id>
	<title>But what should they do</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260872760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Does anyone know what kind of legal action plurk can take? they <a href="http://www.plurk.com/terms" title="plurk.com" rel="nofollow"> claim </a> [plurk.com] copyright of their content, but does that cover code? and since this is in China who knows what kind of rights plurk has...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does anyone know what kind of legal action plurk can take ?
they claim [ plurk.com ] copyright of their content , but does that cover code ?
and since this is in China who knows what kind of rights plurk has.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does anyone know what kind of legal action plurk can take?
they  claim  [plurk.com] copyright of their content, but does that cover code?
and since this is in China who knows what kind of rights plurk has...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30443364</id>
	<title>Microsoft Investigating...</title>
	<author>EricX2</author>
	<datestamp>1260889020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Microsoft Investigating Questions over MSN China joint venture's Juku feature<br><a href="http://www.microsoft.com/Presspass/press/2009/dec09/12-14Statement.mspx?rss\_fdn=Press\%20Releases" title="microsoft.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.microsoft.com/Presspass/press/2009/dec09/12-14Statement.mspx?rss\_fdn=Press\%20Releases</a> [microsoft.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Microsoft Investigating Questions over MSN China joint venture 's Juku featurehttp : //www.microsoft.com/Presspass/press/2009/dec09/12-14Statement.mspx ? rss \ _fdn = Press \ % 20Releases [ microsoft.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Microsoft Investigating Questions over MSN China joint venture's Juku featurehttp://www.microsoft.com/Presspass/press/2009/dec09/12-14Statement.mspx?rss\_fdn=Press\%20Releases [microsoft.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30442936</id>
	<title>McLub ???</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260886080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>did anyone else read it that way?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>did anyone else read it that way ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>did anyone else read it that way?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30443486</id>
	<title>Sounds typical</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260889560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>remember this?</p><p>http://tech.mit.edu/V122/N27/long5\_27.27w.html</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>remember this ? http : //tech.mit.edu/V122/N27/long5 \ _27.27w.html</tokentext>
<sentencetext>remember this?http://tech.mit.edu/V122/N27/long5\_27.27w.html</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30441600</id>
	<title>Not the first time.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260869760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In the past, MS has been caught red-handed stealing code from DR, from Stacker, and from Apple.  IBM showed them how to buy their way out of jail.</p><p>-jcr</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In the past , MS has been caught red-handed stealing code from DR , from Stacker , and from Apple .
IBM showed them how to buy their way out of jail.-jcr</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the past, MS has been caught red-handed stealing code from DR, from Stacker, and from Apple.
IBM showed them how to buy their way out of jail.-jcr</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30442020</id>
	<title>Speaking of hypocrisy...</title>
	<author>Spasmodeus</author>
	<datestamp>1260874920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How can this be stealing?</p><p>Nothing physical was lost, only data was copied and Plurk lost nothing!</p><p>Also, it's not piracy, because we all know that piracy only happens on ships at sea!</p><p>Therefore, it is only logical that the title of this article be changed to "Microsoft Shares Code with Microblogging Startup".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How can this be stealing ? Nothing physical was lost , only data was copied and Plurk lost nothing ! Also , it 's not piracy , because we all know that piracy only happens on ships at sea ! Therefore , it is only logical that the title of this article be changed to " Microsoft Shares Code with Microblogging Startup " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How can this be stealing?Nothing physical was lost, only data was copied and Plurk lost nothing!Also, it's not piracy, because we all know that piracy only happens on ships at sea!Therefore, it is only logical that the title of this article be changed to "Microsoft Shares Code with Microblogging Startup".</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30446438</id>
	<title>Open Source? Meet Mr. Cold-Water-Of-Reality-Man</title>
	<author>gestalt\_n\_pepper</author>
	<datestamp>1260901080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Steal public code. Sell as private closed application. Welcome to Open Source Land kids!</p><p>Yes, you and a thousand other basement dwellers worldwide can write "open source" code that will be used in private companies for their personal gain using your labor.</p><p>Cheers!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Steal public code .
Sell as private closed application .
Welcome to Open Source Land kids ! Yes , you and a thousand other basement dwellers worldwide can write " open source " code that will be used in private companies for their personal gain using your labor.Cheers !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Steal public code.
Sell as private closed application.
Welcome to Open Source Land kids!Yes, you and a thousand other basement dwellers worldwide can write "open source" code that will be used in private companies for their personal gain using your labor.Cheers!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30442848</id>
	<title>Who do you think the media is?</title>
	<author>copponex</author>
	<datestamp>1260885180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just who do you think the media is?</p><p>A loose conglomerate of huge corporations that represent corporate viewpoints with rare exception, or a group of journalists with integrity who focus on keeping regular citizens informed and government and business in check?</p><p>If Fox news picks the story up, it'll be about how a huge business can't possibly be expected to keep tabs on all of it's subsidiaries. Which will immediately be followed by another story bashing ACORN, all without a hint of irony.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just who do you think the media is ? A loose conglomerate of huge corporations that represent corporate viewpoints with rare exception , or a group of journalists with integrity who focus on keeping regular citizens informed and government and business in check ? If Fox news picks the story up , it 'll be about how a huge business ca n't possibly be expected to keep tabs on all of it 's subsidiaries .
Which will immediately be followed by another story bashing ACORN , all without a hint of irony .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just who do you think the media is?A loose conglomerate of huge corporations that represent corporate viewpoints with rare exception, or a group of journalists with integrity who focus on keeping regular citizens informed and government and business in check?If Fox news picks the story up, it'll be about how a huge business can't possibly be expected to keep tabs on all of it's subsidiaries.
Which will immediately be followed by another story bashing ACORN, all without a hint of irony.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30448348</id>
	<title>Are we looking at the "right" China?</title>
	<author>lordtoran</author>
	<datestamp>1260907920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The English-speaking media seem to fail to mention that Plurk is Taiwan based[1]... not in the People's Republic of China.</p><p>----<br>[1] <a href="http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Microsoft-hat-Aerger-in-Asien-886233.html" title="heise.de">http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Microsoft-hat-Aerger-in-Asien-886233.html</a> [heise.de] (German)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The English-speaking media seem to fail to mention that Plurk is Taiwan based [ 1 ] ... not in the People 's Republic of China.---- [ 1 ] http : //www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Microsoft-hat-Aerger-in-Asien-886233.html [ heise.de ] ( German )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The English-speaking media seem to fail to mention that Plurk is Taiwan based[1]... not in the People's Republic of China.----[1] http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Microsoft-hat-Aerger-in-Asien-886233.html [heise.de] (German)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30449210</id>
	<title>The Chinese got beaten at their own game</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260869100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My sympathy to the developers from Plurk.</p><p>However, he Chinese have been stealing and copying everybody's work for decades. Their whole industrial society is based on that premise.<br>How, they get a taste of their own game and feel what it is like to rob somebody of their intellectual property. A good lesson; I hope more incidents like this happen so that the society can elevate above the current status quo of rampant piracy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My sympathy to the developers from Plurk.However , he Chinese have been stealing and copying everybody 's work for decades .
Their whole industrial society is based on that premise.How , they get a taste of their own game and feel what it is like to rob somebody of their intellectual property .
A good lesson ; I hope more incidents like this happen so that the society can elevate above the current status quo of rampant piracy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My sympathy to the developers from Plurk.However, he Chinese have been stealing and copying everybody's work for decades.
Their whole industrial society is based on that premise.How, they get a taste of their own game and feel what it is like to rob somebody of their intellectual property.
A good lesson; I hope more incidents like this happen so that the society can elevate above the current status quo of rampant piracy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30447106</id>
	<title>Re:Microsoft is furious.</title>
	<author>shutdown -p now</author>
	<datestamp>1260903000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I am very sure Microsoft is really really furious at the developer, the developing group or the outsourced entity in charge of developing code. They do not tolerate such obvious and open theft of code. They have very strong internal procedures and policies. I am very sure there is a strong "Best Practices" document exclusively and exhaustively dealing with theft of source code.</p></div><p>You're absolutely correct.</p><p>Even looking at FLOSS code to "appropriate ideas" is a big no-no. Much less copying it wholesale.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I am very sure Microsoft is really really furious at the developer , the developing group or the outsourced entity in charge of developing code .
They do not tolerate such obvious and open theft of code .
They have very strong internal procedures and policies .
I am very sure there is a strong " Best Practices " document exclusively and exhaustively dealing with theft of source code.You 're absolutely correct.Even looking at FLOSS code to " appropriate ideas " is a big no-no .
Much less copying it wholesale .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am very sure Microsoft is really really furious at the developer, the developing group or the outsourced entity in charge of developing code.
They do not tolerate such obvious and open theft of code.
They have very strong internal procedures and policies.
I am very sure there is a strong "Best Practices" document exclusively and exhaustively dealing with theft of source code.You're absolutely correct.Even looking at FLOSS code to "appropriate ideas" is a big no-no.
Much less copying it wholesale.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30442706</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30441526</id>
	<title>Plurk</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260868800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Plurk.

A battlecry for the ages. Rally Plurk mingions!




Plurk?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Plurk .
A battlecry for the ages .
Rally Plurk mingions !
Plurk ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Plurk.
A battlecry for the ages.
Rally Plurk mingions!
Plurk?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30441404</id>
	<title>at least they open sourced it</title>
	<author>SchroedingersCat</author>
	<datestamp>1260910560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>at least they made it open source this time</htmltext>
<tokenext>at least they made it open source this time</tokentext>
<sentencetext>at least they made it open source this time</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30441348</id>
	<title>Of course being in China,</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260909660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>the Chinese portion of anything is going to deny it's theft and call the original coders liars.  The Chinese are great about this, the government mindset is embedded in the younger citizens - such as "We do not filter our Internet access, we have a few routing issues."</p><p>Yeah, right.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>the Chinese portion of anything is going to deny it 's theft and call the original coders liars .
The Chinese are great about this , the government mindset is embedded in the younger citizens - such as " We do not filter our Internet access , we have a few routing issues .
" Yeah , right .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the Chinese portion of anything is going to deny it's theft and call the original coders liars.
The Chinese are great about this, the government mindset is embedded in the younger citizens - such as "We do not filter our Internet access, we have a few routing issues.
"Yeah, right.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30442706</id>
	<title>Microsoft is furious.</title>
	<author>140Mandak262Jamuna</author>
	<datestamp>1260883680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I am very sure Microsoft is really really furious at the developer, the developing group or the outsourced entity in charge of developing code. They do not tolerate such obvious and open theft of code. They have very strong internal procedures and policies. I am very sure there is a strong "Best Practices" document exclusively and exhaustively dealing with theft of source code.<p>

It has developed lots of CASE tools and code obfuscation tools and mark up tools. They have procedures on how to massage stolen code and how to randomly relocate code blocks, variable names, function names etc so that the code borrowing would be completely masked and it would appear as though a clueless overpaid hack had written the code. </p><p>

Remember? All that talk about relocating code blocks in <b>binaries</b> and randomly scrambling the address space each time the link loader loads and executable into memory? All that research to move around just binaries? The claim is "when buffer overflow error occurs, each run will behave differently, and so the viruses could not reliably reproduce". If they can scramble <b>binaries</b>, how hard is it going to be to scramble <b>source</b>? What is the big point in developing source code scrambling procedures and hacking the code obfuscation tool to rename variables if the developers are not using it to correctly and clearly mask the stolen code. </p><p>

Some flunkie in Microsoft is sure going to have his skin flayed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am very sure Microsoft is really really furious at the developer , the developing group or the outsourced entity in charge of developing code .
They do not tolerate such obvious and open theft of code .
They have very strong internal procedures and policies .
I am very sure there is a strong " Best Practices " document exclusively and exhaustively dealing with theft of source code .
It has developed lots of CASE tools and code obfuscation tools and mark up tools .
They have procedures on how to massage stolen code and how to randomly relocate code blocks , variable names , function names etc so that the code borrowing would be completely masked and it would appear as though a clueless overpaid hack had written the code .
Remember ? All that talk about relocating code blocks in binaries and randomly scrambling the address space each time the link loader loads and executable into memory ?
All that research to move around just binaries ?
The claim is " when buffer overflow error occurs , each run will behave differently , and so the viruses could not reliably reproduce " .
If they can scramble binaries , how hard is it going to be to scramble source ?
What is the big point in developing source code scrambling procedures and hacking the code obfuscation tool to rename variables if the developers are not using it to correctly and clearly mask the stolen code .
Some flunkie in Microsoft is sure going to have his skin flayed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am very sure Microsoft is really really furious at the developer, the developing group or the outsourced entity in charge of developing code.
They do not tolerate such obvious and open theft of code.
They have very strong internal procedures and policies.
I am very sure there is a strong "Best Practices" document exclusively and exhaustively dealing with theft of source code.
It has developed lots of CASE tools and code obfuscation tools and mark up tools.
They have procedures on how to massage stolen code and how to randomly relocate code blocks, variable names, function names etc so that the code borrowing would be completely masked and it would appear as though a clueless overpaid hack had written the code.
Remember? All that talk about relocating code blocks in binaries and randomly scrambling the address space each time the link loader loads and executable into memory?
All that research to move around just binaries?
The claim is "when buffer overflow error occurs, each run will behave differently, and so the viruses could not reliably reproduce".
If they can scramble binaries, how hard is it going to be to scramble source?
What is the big point in developing source code scrambling procedures and hacking the code obfuscation tool to rename variables if the developers are not using it to correctly and clearly mask the stolen code.
Some flunkie in Microsoft is sure going to have his skin flayed.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30442564</id>
	<title>Re:As someone who works with outsourced Chinese la</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260882120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I'm sure this is simply a case of the engineers in China being told "make us this product", and when waiting until they deliver a finished product without questioning it properly. Their American MSFT overlords probably took no time to apply the same oversight that they would give to their domestic employees.</i> </p><p>I don't think this was a case of MSFT outsourcing work to their Chinese division.  I think this was MSFT China "developing" a product intended for the Chinese market.  Their "American MSFT Overlords" probably knew nothing about it.</p><p>At any rate, "stealing" intellectual property is a way of life in China.  It's not surprising that it happened.  What is surprising is that it wasn't a Chinese company "stealing" from an American company.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sure this is simply a case of the engineers in China being told " make us this product " , and when waiting until they deliver a finished product without questioning it properly .
Their American MSFT overlords probably took no time to apply the same oversight that they would give to their domestic employees .
I do n't think this was a case of MSFT outsourcing work to their Chinese division .
I think this was MSFT China " developing " a product intended for the Chinese market .
Their " American MSFT Overlords " probably knew nothing about it.At any rate , " stealing " intellectual property is a way of life in China .
It 's not surprising that it happened .
What is surprising is that it was n't a Chinese company " stealing " from an American company .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sure this is simply a case of the engineers in China being told "make us this product", and when waiting until they deliver a finished product without questioning it properly.
Their American MSFT overlords probably took no time to apply the same oversight that they would give to their domestic employees.
I don't think this was a case of MSFT outsourcing work to their Chinese division.
I think this was MSFT China "developing" a product intended for the Chinese market.
Their "American MSFT Overlords" probably knew nothing about it.At any rate, "stealing" intellectual property is a way of life in China.
It's not surprising that it happened.
What is surprising is that it wasn't a Chinese company "stealing" from an American company.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30441544</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30441544</id>
	<title>As someone who works with outsourced Chinese labor</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260869040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm sure this is simply a case of the engineers in China being told "make us this product", and when waiting until they deliver a finished product without questioning it properly. Their American MSFT overlords probably took no time to apply the same oversight that they would give to their domestic employees.</p><p>How do I know this? Because it's happened with my company before too.</p><p>And why does it happen? Language barrier and time zone difference.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sure this is simply a case of the engineers in China being told " make us this product " , and when waiting until they deliver a finished product without questioning it properly .
Their American MSFT overlords probably took no time to apply the same oversight that they would give to their domestic employees.How do I know this ?
Because it 's happened with my company before too.And why does it happen ?
Language barrier and time zone difference .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sure this is simply a case of the engineers in China being told "make us this product", and when waiting until they deliver a finished product without questioning it properly.
Their American MSFT overlords probably took no time to apply the same oversight that they would give to their domestic employees.How do I know this?
Because it's happened with my company before too.And why does it happen?
Language barrier and time zone difference.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30441904</id>
	<title>Wow, shocking</title>
	<author>bryan1945</author>
	<datestamp>1260873420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not like this hasn't happened before...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not like this has n't happened before.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not like this hasn't happened before...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30441608</id>
	<title>Open Source</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260869940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is why open source will ultimately win. It's just too tempting to use someone else's code rather than writing your own code to do the same thing. The fact that a large software company like Microsoft has succumbed to this simply shows how widely adopted this mindset is becoming.


Of course, Microsoft was still wrong to do this.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is why open source will ultimately win .
It 's just too tempting to use someone else 's code rather than writing your own code to do the same thing .
The fact that a large software company like Microsoft has succumbed to this simply shows how widely adopted this mindset is becoming .
Of course , Microsoft was still wrong to do this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is why open source will ultimately win.
It's just too tempting to use someone else's code rather than writing your own code to do the same thing.
The fact that a large software company like Microsoft has succumbed to this simply shows how widely adopted this mindset is becoming.
Of course, Microsoft was still wrong to do this.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30449162</id>
	<title>Re:Speaking of hypocrisy...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260868800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's my version of the perfect world.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's my version of the perfect world .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's my version of the perfect world.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30442020</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30442028</id>
	<title>Tsk</title>
	<author>SmallFurryCreature</author>
	<datestamp>1260875040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Get this citizen and get this straight. When the king rapes a maid, that is all well and proper and his divine right. When a maid rapes the king, that is treason.
</p><p>It is called, double standards. Much better then having just one standard which is the way of socialists and other enemies of freedom to screw those below you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Get this citizen and get this straight .
When the king rapes a maid , that is all well and proper and his divine right .
When a maid rapes the king , that is treason .
It is called , double standards .
Much better then having just one standard which is the way of socialists and other enemies of freedom to screw those below you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Get this citizen and get this straight.
When the king rapes a maid, that is all well and proper and his divine right.
When a maid rapes the king, that is treason.
It is called, double standards.
Much better then having just one standard which is the way of socialists and other enemies of freedom to screw those below you.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30441512</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30441882</id>
	<title>The good borrow, the great steal.</title>
	<author>TheRealRainFall</author>
	<datestamp>1260873060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What more else needs to be said? There are no new ideas just people hybridizing previous ideas.</htmltext>
<tokenext>What more else needs to be said ?
There are no new ideas just people hybridizing previous ideas .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What more else needs to be said?
There are no new ideas just people hybridizing previous ideas.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30441616</id>
	<title>Yeah whats plurk? answer me MS CN</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260870000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>so thats what happening behind the great wall .<nobr> <wbr></nobr>//0\_o</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>so thats what happening behind the great wall .
//0 \ _o</tokentext>
<sentencetext>so thats what happening behind the great wall .
//0\_o</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30454264</id>
	<title>Re:Speaking of hypocrisy...</title>
	<author>dalemay</author>
	<datestamp>1260901920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I read the other day that the china stole the code from Malwarebites.  I think they call it obit 360
Same code and everything. Stealing Yes.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I read the other day that the china stole the code from Malwarebites .
I think they call it obit 360 Same code and everything .
Stealing Yes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I read the other day that the china stole the code from Malwarebites.
I think they call it obit 360
Same code and everything.
Stealing Yes.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30442020</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30446326</id>
	<title>Re:Speaking of hypocrisy...</title>
	<author>AcidPenguin9873</author>
	<datestamp>1260900720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Amen!  Where are the myriad of pro-piracy Slashdotters when you really need them?  They show up in droves to make this ridiculous argument whenever there are RIAA stories, but they seem to disappear whenever a GPL violation or a Microsoft-steals-code story gets posted.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Amen !
Where are the myriad of pro-piracy Slashdotters when you really need them ?
They show up in droves to make this ridiculous argument whenever there are RIAA stories , but they seem to disappear whenever a GPL violation or a Microsoft-steals-code story gets posted .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Amen!
Where are the myriad of pro-piracy Slashdotters when you really need them?
They show up in droves to make this ridiculous argument whenever there are RIAA stories, but they seem to disappear whenever a GPL violation or a Microsoft-steals-code story gets posted.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30442020</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30441696</id>
	<title>Re:Why is anyone surprised?</title>
	<author>upside</author>
	<datestamp>1260870840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>People always read too much into events like this. Microsoft is not a monolithic entity where every action is centrally planned and intentional. It's not like Steve Ballmer sat down with managers to figure which startup to rip off or part of the Microsoft induction is Ripoff 101.</p><p>What happened is most likely a subcontractor taking a shortcut.</p><p>If you want to blame Microsoft, put it down to poor IPR training and lacking due diligence. These are doubly important in developing countries that don't have the same awareness of these issues. I'm not defending Microsoft, but I'm sure code theft is something they genuinely try to avoid. At least where I work open source is an important part of our work and we are trained on how to use it correctly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>People always read too much into events like this .
Microsoft is not a monolithic entity where every action is centrally planned and intentional .
It 's not like Steve Ballmer sat down with managers to figure which startup to rip off or part of the Microsoft induction is Ripoff 101.What happened is most likely a subcontractor taking a shortcut.If you want to blame Microsoft , put it down to poor IPR training and lacking due diligence .
These are doubly important in developing countries that do n't have the same awareness of these issues .
I 'm not defending Microsoft , but I 'm sure code theft is something they genuinely try to avoid .
At least where I work open source is an important part of our work and we are trained on how to use it correctly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People always read too much into events like this.
Microsoft is not a monolithic entity where every action is centrally planned and intentional.
It's not like Steve Ballmer sat down with managers to figure which startup to rip off or part of the Microsoft induction is Ripoff 101.What happened is most likely a subcontractor taking a shortcut.If you want to blame Microsoft, put it down to poor IPR training and lacking due diligence.
These are doubly important in developing countries that don't have the same awareness of these issues.
I'm not defending Microsoft, but I'm sure code theft is something they genuinely try to avoid.
At least where I work open source is an important part of our work and we are trained on how to use it correctly.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30441562</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30441740</id>
	<title>Re:Why does this kind of stories</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260871260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Because in this instance, the theft is used to build something productive for anyone to use.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because in this instance , the theft is used to build something productive for anyone to use .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because in this instance, the theft is used to build something productive for anyone to use.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30441512</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30444338</id>
	<title>Re:Why is anyone surprised?</title>
	<author>cusco</author>
	<datestamp>1260893640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Actually most of the time MS just buys the company.  Cheaper than paying lawyers for x-many years and now they also have on staff the people who designed the thing.  I've worked on the security systems for several of Microsoft's purchases, and they almost always try to keep these teams intact and productive.  Generally the team that could produce something that draws interest from the upper levels of Redmond is considerably more valuable than the thing itself.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually most of the time MS just buys the company .
Cheaper than paying lawyers for x-many years and now they also have on staff the people who designed the thing .
I 've worked on the security systems for several of Microsoft 's purchases , and they almost always try to keep these teams intact and productive .
Generally the team that could produce something that draws interest from the upper levels of Redmond is considerably more valuable than the thing itself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually most of the time MS just buys the company.
Cheaper than paying lawyers for x-many years and now they also have on staff the people who designed the thing.
I've worked on the security systems for several of Microsoft's purchases, and they almost always try to keep these teams intact and productive.
Generally the team that could produce something that draws interest from the upper levels of Redmond is considerably more valuable than the thing itself.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30441562</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30446638</id>
	<title>Did Microsoft stole your for loop?</title>
	<author>Alanonfire</author>
	<datestamp>1260901620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The irony is that Plurk was probably coded on pirated copies of windows.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The irony is that Plurk was probably coded on pirated copies of windows .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The irony is that Plurk was probably coded on pirated copies of windows.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30441512</id>
	<title>Why does this kind of stories</title>
	<author>crazybit</author>
	<datestamp>1260868620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>rarely reaches the mass media news? but when a filesharer "steals" some software things happens in a completely different way.</htmltext>
<tokenext>rarely reaches the mass media news ?
but when a filesharer " steals " some software things happens in a completely different way .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>rarely reaches the mass media news?
but when a filesharer "steals" some software things happens in a completely different way.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30441344</id>
	<title>Pookee!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260909600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is not a news!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is not a news !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is not a news!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30449840</id>
	<title>Re:Open Source</title>
	<author>daveime</author>
	<datestamp>1260871800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So if Microsoft built a GUI like Gnome and layer it on top of a *nix Kernel, not forgetting of course to include a copy of the GPL and the source code, that would be fine with you ?</p><p>Or would they still be "stealing" ?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So if Microsoft built a GUI like Gnome and layer it on top of a * nix Kernel , not forgetting of course to include a copy of the GPL and the source code , that would be fine with you ? Or would they still be " stealing " ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So if Microsoft built a GUI like Gnome and layer it on top of a *nix Kernel, not forgetting of course to include a copy of the GPL and the source code, that would be fine with you ?Or would they still be "stealing" ?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30441608</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30445572</id>
	<title>Re:WHAT?!?!?</title>
	<author>HiThere</author>
	<datestamp>1260898260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There ARE good reasons for calling MS hypocrites, but this isn't one.  Decisions taken at this level aren't unified.  Calling MS hypocrites over this is rather like calling Slashdot hypocrites for taking different sides on related stories.  Usually the different sides are taken by separate people without coordination...and that's probably what happened here.  I'd bet large money that the people who ripped off the code had no direct relationship or coordination with the ones who were planting media stories about how evil pirates were.</p><p>Corporations aren't people, and they shouldn't be treated as if they were.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There ARE good reasons for calling MS hypocrites , but this is n't one .
Decisions taken at this level are n't unified .
Calling MS hypocrites over this is rather like calling Slashdot hypocrites for taking different sides on related stories .
Usually the different sides are taken by separate people without coordination...and that 's probably what happened here .
I 'd bet large money that the people who ripped off the code had no direct relationship or coordination with the ones who were planting media stories about how evil pirates were.Corporations are n't people , and they should n't be treated as if they were .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There ARE good reasons for calling MS hypocrites, but this isn't one.
Decisions taken at this level aren't unified.
Calling MS hypocrites over this is rather like calling Slashdot hypocrites for taking different sides on related stories.
Usually the different sides are taken by separate people without coordination...and that's probably what happened here.
I'd bet large money that the people who ripped off the code had no direct relationship or coordination with the ones who were planting media stories about how evil pirates were.Corporations aren't people, and they shouldn't be treated as if they were.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30441394</id>
	<title>let me be the first to say</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260910440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>who cares!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>who cares !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>who cares!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30446356</id>
	<title>Re:Speaking of hypocrisy...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260900840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think that most of the users of this site are against for-profit copyright infrigement.</p><p>I have no idea if Chinese law calls this stealing or not.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think that most of the users of this site are against for-profit copyright infrigement.I have no idea if Chinese law calls this stealing or not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think that most of the users of this site are against for-profit copyright infrigement.I have no idea if Chinese law calls this stealing or not.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30442020</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30441578</id>
	<title>The reports are too soft</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260869520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Reading most of the press reports it would seem that the allegation is based on similarities in the look, shown by screenshots. If you read from Plurk's post you will see that the code is identical apart from some variables that were called *Plurk* and got renamed to *Wall*... It sounds much more serious this way.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Reading most of the press reports it would seem that the allegation is based on similarities in the look , shown by screenshots .
If you read from Plurk 's post you will see that the code is identical apart from some variables that were called * Plurk * and got renamed to * Wall * ... It sounds much more serious this way .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Reading most of the press reports it would seem that the allegation is based on similarities in the look, shown by screenshots.
If you read from Plurk's post you will see that the code is identical apart from some variables that were called *Plurk* and got renamed to *Wall*... It sounds much more serious this way.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30441992</id>
	<title>Off topic but...</title>
	<author>ltrm</author>
	<datestamp>1260874680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Of course it's not really Microsoft that copied it, it was someone <i>within</i> Microsoft, who clearly didn't think things through and is probably rather unlikely to be employed there much longer. Of course that doesn't mean it's not Microsoft's problem since they now have to do damage control due to the egg on their faces.</p></div><p>Sorry, this is off topic but hopefully still interesting...</p><p>I've often wondered how language shapes how we think about corporations.  In the American dialect of English corporations tend to be treated as nouns where as in the British/Commonwealth dialect of English they are treated as collective nouns.  </p><p>E.g. Microsoft is doing something - we're talking about the legal entity Microsoft vs Microsoft are doing something - we're talking about one of the company (employees) of Microsoft doing something.  </p><p>It's a small but, I think, interesting difference.  At what point would can a corporation be blamed for the actions of it employees?  This case involving Microsoft will probably be sorted out without much fuss but in other, more serious cases, such as corporate manslaughter it's a much stickier issue.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Of course it 's not really Microsoft that copied it , it was someone within Microsoft , who clearly did n't think things through and is probably rather unlikely to be employed there much longer .
Of course that does n't mean it 's not Microsoft 's problem since they now have to do damage control due to the egg on their faces.Sorry , this is off topic but hopefully still interesting...I 've often wondered how language shapes how we think about corporations .
In the American dialect of English corporations tend to be treated as nouns where as in the British/Commonwealth dialect of English they are treated as collective nouns .
E.g. Microsoft is doing something - we 're talking about the legal entity Microsoft vs Microsoft are doing something - we 're talking about one of the company ( employees ) of Microsoft doing something .
It 's a small but , I think , interesting difference .
At what point would can a corporation be blamed for the actions of it employees ?
This case involving Microsoft will probably be sorted out without much fuss but in other , more serious cases , such as corporate manslaughter it 's a much stickier issue .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of course it's not really Microsoft that copied it, it was someone within Microsoft, who clearly didn't think things through and is probably rather unlikely to be employed there much longer.
Of course that doesn't mean it's not Microsoft's problem since they now have to do damage control due to the egg on their faces.Sorry, this is off topic but hopefully still interesting...I've often wondered how language shapes how we think about corporations.
In the American dialect of English corporations tend to be treated as nouns where as in the British/Commonwealth dialect of English they are treated as collective nouns.
E.g. Microsoft is doing something - we're talking about the legal entity Microsoft vs Microsoft are doing something - we're talking about one of the company (employees) of Microsoft doing something.
It's a small but, I think, interesting difference.
At what point would can a corporation be blamed for the actions of it employees?
This case involving Microsoft will probably be sorted out without much fuss but in other, more serious cases, such as corporate manslaughter it's a much stickier issue.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30441726</id>
	<title>Re:As someone who works with outsourced Chinese la</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260871080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ah the good old "It wasn't me!"-defense. Big corporations are never responsible. It was always somebody else's fault. Good for them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ah the good old " It was n't me ! " -defense .
Big corporations are never responsible .
It was always somebody else 's fault .
Good for them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ah the good old "It wasn't me!"-defense.
Big corporations are never responsible.
It was always somebody else's fault.
Good for them.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30449926</id>
	<title>Re:Speaking of hypocrisy...</title>
	<author>noidentity</author>
	<datestamp>1260872160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well, presumably Microsoft <i>erased</i> the original code after they copied it from the server. That's how the startup realized it was stolen, because it was missing!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , presumably Microsoft erased the original code after they copied it from the server .
That 's how the startup realized it was stolen , because it was missing !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, presumably Microsoft erased the original code after they copied it from the server.
That's how the startup realized it was stolen, because it was missing!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30441908</id>
	<title>Can't believe!</title>
	<author>alukin</author>
	<datestamp>1260873480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is it first time?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is it first time ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is it first time?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30443310</id>
	<title>Re:Why does this kind of stories</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260888720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>nytimes not enough for you? Oh, silly me using things like facts to convince anti-ms trolls on slashdot..</p><p><a href="http://i.imgur.com/Zu1EP.png" title="imgur.com" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/Zu1EP.png</a> [imgur.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>nytimes not enough for you ?
Oh , silly me using things like facts to convince anti-ms trolls on slashdot..http : //i.imgur.com/Zu1EP.png [ imgur.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>nytimes not enough for you?
Oh, silly me using things like facts to convince anti-ms trolls on slashdot..http://i.imgur.com/Zu1EP.png [imgur.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30442898</id>
	<title>hypocrits?</title>
	<author>v(*\_*)vvvv</author>
	<datestamp>1260885660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Considering Microsoft's new ad campaign, we shouldn't be so surprised...</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Windows 7 was my idea.</p> </div><p> <b>Literally, Windows 7 was my fucking idea<b>.</b></b></p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Considering Microsoft 's new ad campaign , we should n't be so surprised...Windows 7 was my idea .
Literally , Windows 7 was my fucking idea .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Considering Microsoft's new ad campaign, we shouldn't be so surprised...Windows 7 was my idea.
Literally, Windows 7 was my fucking idea.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30441534</id>
	<title>WHAT?!?!?</title>
	<author>isaac.anthony</author>
	<datestamp>1260868860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Microsoft?  Hypocrites?  NO WAY!

Welcome to what you can do when you have exponentially more money than the people you're stealing from.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Microsoft ?
Hypocrites ? NO WAY !
Welcome to what you can do when you have exponentially more money than the people you 're stealing from .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Microsoft?
Hypocrites?  NO WAY!
Welcome to what you can do when you have exponentially more money than the people you're stealing from.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_15_0149246.30445096</id>
	<title>Stealing.</title>
	<author>dontgetshocked</author>
	<datestamp>1260896580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It;s only Bad when someone else does it not me silly! Besides it;s not really stealing if you don't get caught,ooops!</htmltext>
<tokenext>It ; s only Bad when someone else does it not me silly !
Besides it ; s not really stealing if you do n't get caught,ooops !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It;s only Bad when someone else does it not me silly!
Besides it;s not really stealing if you don't get caught,ooops!</sentencetext>
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