<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_12_13_1747201</id>
	<title>The DIY Book Scanner</title>
	<author>Soulskill</author>
	<datestamp>1260732480000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>azoblue writes <i>"Daniel Reetz did not want to lug around heavy textbooks, so he <a href="http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/12/diy-book-scanner/">built a book scanner to create digital copies</a>. '... over three days, and for about $300, he lashed together two lights, two Canon Powershot A590 cameras, a few pieces of acrylic and some chunks of wood to create a book scanner that's fast enough to <a href="http://diybookscanner.org/PDF/DIY-High-Speed-Book-Scanner-from-Trash-and-Cheap-C.pdf">scan a 400-page book in about 20 minutes</a> (PDF). To use it, he simply loads in a book and presses a button, then turns the page and presses the button again. Each press of the button captures two pages, and when he's done, software on Reetz's computer converts the book into a PDF file. The Reetz DIY book scanner isn't automated &mdash; you still need to stand by it to turn the pages. But it's fast and inexpensive.'"</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>azoblue writes " Daniel Reetz did not want to lug around heavy textbooks , so he built a book scanner to create digital copies .
'... over three days , and for about $ 300 , he lashed together two lights , two Canon Powershot A590 cameras , a few pieces of acrylic and some chunks of wood to create a book scanner that 's fast enough to scan a 400-page book in about 20 minutes ( PDF ) .
To use it , he simply loads in a book and presses a button , then turns the page and presses the button again .
Each press of the button captures two pages , and when he 's done , software on Reetz 's computer converts the book into a PDF file .
The Reetz DIY book scanner is n't automated    you still need to stand by it to turn the pages .
But it 's fast and inexpensive .
' "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>azoblue writes "Daniel Reetz did not want to lug around heavy textbooks, so he built a book scanner to create digital copies.
'... over three days, and for about $300, he lashed together two lights, two Canon Powershot A590 cameras, a few pieces of acrylic and some chunks of wood to create a book scanner that's fast enough to scan a 400-page book in about 20 minutes (PDF).
To use it, he simply loads in a book and presses a button, then turns the page and presses the button again.
Each press of the button captures two pages, and when he's done, software on Reetz's computer converts the book into a PDF file.
The Reetz DIY book scanner isn't automated — you still need to stand by it to turn the pages.
But it's fast and inexpensive.
'"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30425280</id>
	<title>Re:I've</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260700260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1) Neatly cut the pages out of the book: 5 minutes.<br>2) Set up scanner with duplexer document feeder: 5 minutes<br>3) Run pages through scanner and OCR: 8 minutes<br>4) Profit!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 ) Neatly cut the pages out of the book : 5 minutes.2 ) Set up scanner with duplexer document feeder : 5 minutes3 ) Run pages through scanner and OCR : 8 minutes4 ) Profit !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1) Neatly cut the pages out of the book: 5 minutes.2) Set up scanner with duplexer document feeder: 5 minutes3) Run pages through scanner and OCR: 8 minutes4) Profit!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424498</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30427130</id>
	<title>Re:Are there scanners that accept a stack of sheet</title>
	<author>pbhj</author>
	<datestamp>1260716280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd be for cutting off the binding of all the books and using a standard duplex scanner - you'll be able to sell the books on to a poor student (or give them away) and you'll be able to sell copies of the format shift to your fellow students; you'll need proof that a) they own the book and b) the publisher doesn't do an electronic public sale already. You could even buy a glued-tape style binding machine if you found that it was cost effective.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd be for cutting off the binding of all the books and using a standard duplex scanner - you 'll be able to sell the books on to a poor student ( or give them away ) and you 'll be able to sell copies of the format shift to your fellow students ; you 'll need proof that a ) they own the book and b ) the publisher does n't do an electronic public sale already .
You could even buy a glued-tape style binding machine if you found that it was cost effective .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd be for cutting off the binding of all the books and using a standard duplex scanner - you'll be able to sell the books on to a poor student (or give them away) and you'll be able to sell copies of the format shift to your fellow students; you'll need proof that a) they own the book and b) the publisher doesn't do an electronic public sale already.
You could even buy a glued-tape style binding machine if you found that it was cost effective.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424730</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30427510</id>
	<title>Re:better wy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260720240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Although a little slower, an Olfa wheel knife works 1000 times better than a jigsaw at disassembling hardcovers, paperbacks and magazines alike.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Although a little slower , an Olfa wheel knife works 1000 times better than a jigsaw at disassembling hardcovers , paperbacks and magazines alike .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Although a little slower, an Olfa wheel knife works 1000 times better than a jigsaw at disassembling hardcovers, paperbacks and magazines alike.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424672</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30426506</id>
	<title>this scans AND turns pages</title>
	<author>gedw99</author>
	<datestamp>1260711120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/bookscanner#p/c/14E09F2A975DB14F" title="youtube.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/user/bookscanner#p/c/14E09F2A975DB14F</a> [youtube.com]

I think that it would be easy to actually make this. It uses vacuum to simply pull the pages up, and then whenit gets to the end of the page, turns off one of the vacuums t toss the page over.</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.youtube.com/user/bookscanner # p/c/14E09F2A975DB14F [ youtube.com ] I think that it would be easy to actually make this .
It uses vacuum to simply pull the pages up , and then whenit gets to the end of the page , turns off one of the vacuums t toss the page over .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.youtube.com/user/bookscanner#p/c/14E09F2A975DB14F [youtube.com]

I think that it would be easy to actually make this.
It uses vacuum to simply pull the pages up, and then whenit gets to the end of the page, turns off one of the vacuums t toss the page over.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30433568</id>
	<title>Re:high quality digital cameras doom textbooks</title>
	<author>PingPongBoy</author>
	<datestamp>1260818340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><em>This is a market that relies on outrageous reproduction prices just like cd's used to. They are equally doomed. I know a LOT of college students who no longer buy books<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... they rent them for free by buying them, shooting them, and returning them.</em></p><p>At the price of a book, it is understandable<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... but if the revenues drop from book sales, they will go up in tuition. After all, who writes the books? Profs. Where do profs work? Schools.</p><p>In fact, the higher tuition has some possibilities. Book prices can be reduced, perhaps even to zero as free downloads. The camera industry might suffer a bit, but everyone is buying a camera anyways.</p><p>Indeed, what business model would befit this new era? Perhaps a subscription or a tax is the way, where downloads are free but based on the number of copies a publisher would receive a portion of a pool of funds? Newspapers may as well get something from this too, and the world will stay spinning.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is a market that relies on outrageous reproduction prices just like cd 's used to .
They are equally doomed .
I know a LOT of college students who no longer buy books ... they rent them for free by buying them , shooting them , and returning them.At the price of a book , it is understandable ... but if the revenues drop from book sales , they will go up in tuition .
After all , who writes the books ?
Profs. Where do profs work ?
Schools.In fact , the higher tuition has some possibilities .
Book prices can be reduced , perhaps even to zero as free downloads .
The camera industry might suffer a bit , but everyone is buying a camera anyways.Indeed , what business model would befit this new era ?
Perhaps a subscription or a tax is the way , where downloads are free but based on the number of copies a publisher would receive a portion of a pool of funds ?
Newspapers may as well get something from this too , and the world will stay spinning .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is a market that relies on outrageous reproduction prices just like cd's used to.
They are equally doomed.
I know a LOT of college students who no longer buy books ... they rent them for free by buying them, shooting them, and returning them.At the price of a book, it is understandable ... but if the revenues drop from book sales, they will go up in tuition.
After all, who writes the books?
Profs. Where do profs work?
Schools.In fact, the higher tuition has some possibilities.
Book prices can be reduced, perhaps even to zero as free downloads.
The camera industry might suffer a bit, but everyone is buying a camera anyways.Indeed, what business model would befit this new era?
Perhaps a subscription or a tax is the way, where downloads are free but based on the number of copies a publisher would receive a portion of a pool of funds?
Newspapers may as well get something from this too, and the world will stay spinning.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424608</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30429324</id>
	<title>Re:A bargain</title>
	<author>StripedCow</author>
	<datestamp>1260789540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>you can make an automatic page-turner easily:</p><p>- take a plastic pipe, drill in some holes<br>- attach one end to a vacuum cleaner<br>- mount the pipe on a structure capable of making the right movement (this is the most difficult part, but really not that hard)</p><p>of course, the holes in the pipe should be large enough to allow sufficient suction power to turn the pages; this takes some experimentation.</p><p>(yes, i know, this solution "sucks", but in a good way)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>you can make an automatic page-turner easily : - take a plastic pipe , drill in some holes- attach one end to a vacuum cleaner- mount the pipe on a structure capable of making the right movement ( this is the most difficult part , but really not that hard ) of course , the holes in the pipe should be large enough to allow sufficient suction power to turn the pages ; this takes some experimentation .
( yes , i know , this solution " sucks " , but in a good way )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>you can make an automatic page-turner easily:- take a plastic pipe, drill in some holes- attach one end to a vacuum cleaner- mount the pipe on a structure capable of making the right movement (this is the most difficult part, but really not that hard)of course, the holes in the pipe should be large enough to allow sufficient suction power to turn the pages; this takes some experimentation.
(yes, i know, this solution "sucks", but in a good way)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424390</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30428544</id>
	<title>Just saw the spine off!</title>
	<author>saccade.com</author>
	<datestamp>1260733680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>A while back I got a Fujitsu ScanSnap S510.  Now when I want to scan a book, I just saw the spine off (table saw, band saw or even a steel ruler and X-acto knife will do the trick).  Take the loose sheets, about 40 at a time, and put them into the ScanSnap.  The ScanSnap comes with Acrobat Pro and does a fine job of making a searchable PDF file of the book.

The paper?  Into the recycle bin.  I've cleared off several feet of shelf space.</htmltext>
<tokenext>A while back I got a Fujitsu ScanSnap S510 .
Now when I want to scan a book , I just saw the spine off ( table saw , band saw or even a steel ruler and X-acto knife will do the trick ) .
Take the loose sheets , about 40 at a time , and put them into the ScanSnap .
The ScanSnap comes with Acrobat Pro and does a fine job of making a searchable PDF file of the book .
The paper ?
Into the recycle bin .
I 've cleared off several feet of shelf space .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A while back I got a Fujitsu ScanSnap S510.
Now when I want to scan a book, I just saw the spine off (table saw, band saw or even a steel ruler and X-acto knife will do the trick).
Take the loose sheets, about 40 at a time, and put them into the ScanSnap.
The ScanSnap comes with Acrobat Pro and does a fine job of making a searchable PDF file of the book.
The paper?
Into the recycle bin.
I've cleared off several feet of shelf space.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424500</id>
	<title>repost</title>
	<author>AnonGCB</author>
	<datestamp>1260737640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://bkrpr.org/doku.php" title="bkrpr.org">http://bkrpr.org/doku.php</a> [bkrpr.org]</p><p>Same thing, much cheaper (I built mine for ~150 USD.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //bkrpr.org/doku.php [ bkrpr.org ] Same thing , much cheaper ( I built mine for ~ 150 USD .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://bkrpr.org/doku.php [bkrpr.org]Same thing, much cheaper (I built mine for ~150 USD.
)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424472</id>
	<title>Graduate student in what?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260737400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wonder what he studies. it seems like the majority of the work was done by others (hacked firmware, post-processing, pdf conversion). is he a mechanical engineer? (I suspect an amateur couldn't design such a thing structure.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder what he studies .
it seems like the majority of the work was done by others ( hacked firmware , post-processing , pdf conversion ) .
is he a mechanical engineer ?
( I suspect an amateur could n't design such a thing structure .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder what he studies.
it seems like the majority of the work was done by others (hacked firmware, post-processing, pdf conversion).
is he a mechanical engineer?
(I suspect an amateur couldn't design such a thing structure.
)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424562</id>
	<title>Use a tripod</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260695040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And how is this better than using a tripod with a horizontal swinging arm and a digicam?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And how is this better than using a tripod with a horizontal swinging arm and a digicam ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And how is this better than using a tripod with a horizontal swinging arm and a digicam?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30425460</id>
	<title>Re:He's just pretending</title>
	<author>callinyouin</author>
	<datestamp>1260701700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I find this perfectly acceptable. The prices of college books are absolutely insane, and forcing college students to pay such ridiculus prices is perhaps just short of extortion.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I find this perfectly acceptable .
The prices of college books are absolutely insane , and forcing college students to pay such ridiculus prices is perhaps just short of extortion .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I find this perfectly acceptable.
The prices of college books are absolutely insane, and forcing college students to pay such ridiculus prices is perhaps just short of extortion.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424558</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424742</id>
	<title>Re:Are there scanners that accept a stack of sheet</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260696660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes. The photocopier in the maths department where I work scans a stack of sheets and emails the pdfs to you. Others can save it to a usb flash drive. It is great for things like theses we have lost source for but have unbound. But the point of the machine described here is to scan whole books non destructively.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes .
The photocopier in the maths department where I work scans a stack of sheets and emails the pdfs to you .
Others can save it to a usb flash drive .
It is great for things like theses we have lost source for but have unbound .
But the point of the machine described here is to scan whole books non destructively .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes.
The photocopier in the maths department where I work scans a stack of sheets and emails the pdfs to you.
Others can save it to a usb flash drive.
It is great for things like theses we have lost source for but have unbound.
But the point of the machine described here is to scan whole books non destructively.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424524</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424566</id>
	<title>Archive.org has something like this</title>
	<author>0-9a-zA-Z\_.+!*'()123</author>
	<datestamp>1260695040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>built by one of their ex-employees.</p><p>Its in a case in their front office.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>built by one of their ex-employees.Its in a case in their front office .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>built by one of their ex-employees.Its in a case in their front office.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424388</id>
	<title>Oh noooo!!! There they coooome!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260736740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...a horde of pirates willing to steal my Intellectual Property!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...a horde of pirates willing to steal my Intellectual Property !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...a horde of pirates willing to steal my Intellectual Property!
!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30425908</id>
	<title>eBook</title>
	<author>Mista2</author>
	<datestamp>1260705480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Now if only textbooks came as e-books, then this whole tech would be un necessary.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now if only textbooks came as e-books , then this whole tech would be un necessary .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now if only textbooks came as e-books, then this whole tech would be un necessary.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424770</id>
	<title>Did the same thing with just a single camera</title>
	<author>milesw</author>
	<datestamp>1260696840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm amazed at how good OCR has gotten. I did the same thing without building anything: just connected my Canon PowerShot A540 to a tripod, lay the tripod on a coffee table, put the book on the floor, and started snapping away. Fed the JPGs to ABBYY FineReader 10, and it spit out plain text that was *at least* 97-98\% accurate on every page. I did not use any special lights, do not know anything about photography, and frankly thought I'd have to buy all sorts of special equipment. The only other thing I added for convenience sake was Dirk's <a href="http://www.canoremote.de/" title="canoremote.de" rel="nofollow">CanoRemote</a> [canoremote.de] so that I would not move the camera (however imperceptibly) every time I pressed the shutter.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm amazed at how good OCR has gotten .
I did the same thing without building anything : just connected my Canon PowerShot A540 to a tripod , lay the tripod on a coffee table , put the book on the floor , and started snapping away .
Fed the JPGs to ABBYY FineReader 10 , and it spit out plain text that was * at least * 97-98 \ % accurate on every page .
I did not use any special lights , do not know anything about photography , and frankly thought I 'd have to buy all sorts of special equipment .
The only other thing I added for convenience sake was Dirk 's CanoRemote [ canoremote.de ] so that I would not move the camera ( however imperceptibly ) every time I pressed the shutter .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm amazed at how good OCR has gotten.
I did the same thing without building anything: just connected my Canon PowerShot A540 to a tripod, lay the tripod on a coffee table, put the book on the floor, and started snapping away.
Fed the JPGs to ABBYY FineReader 10, and it spit out plain text that was *at least* 97-98\% accurate on every page.
I did not use any special lights, do not know anything about photography, and frankly thought I'd have to buy all sorts of special equipment.
The only other thing I added for convenience sake was Dirk's CanoRemote [canoremote.de] so that I would not move the camera (however imperceptibly) every time I pressed the shutter.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30425076</id>
	<title>on a related note</title>
	<author>vrmlguy</author>
	<datestamp>1260698820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have a project that requires text recognition.  I'm need to quickly identify the presence of text URLs in several thousand photographs.  In the easy cases, the URL is a solid color on a contrasting background, added as a band across the top or bottom of the photo.  But in the hard cases it's a partially transparent watermark across the center of the photo that may be rotated several degrees from horizontal.  The good news is that the URLs all start with "http://", and I don't need the software to capture the entire URL, just let me know that it's present.  I need a solution that is faster than a human and reasonably reliable.  Can current OCR software handle this?  Thanks!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a project that requires text recognition .
I 'm need to quickly identify the presence of text URLs in several thousand photographs .
In the easy cases , the URL is a solid color on a contrasting background , added as a band across the top or bottom of the photo .
But in the hard cases it 's a partially transparent watermark across the center of the photo that may be rotated several degrees from horizontal .
The good news is that the URLs all start with " http : // " , and I do n't need the software to capture the entire URL , just let me know that it 's present .
I need a solution that is faster than a human and reasonably reliable .
Can current OCR software handle this ?
Thanks !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a project that requires text recognition.
I'm need to quickly identify the presence of text URLs in several thousand photographs.
In the easy cases, the URL is a solid color on a contrasting background, added as a band across the top or bottom of the photo.
But in the hard cases it's a partially transparent watermark across the center of the photo that may be rotated several degrees from horizontal.
The good news is that the URLs all start with "http://", and I don't need the software to capture the entire URL, just let me know that it's present.
I need a solution that is faster than a human and reasonably reliable.
Can current OCR software handle this?
Thanks!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424738</id>
	<title>Re:He's just pretending</title>
	<author>mjwalshe</author>
	<datestamp>1260696600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Quite I hope for his sake his college doesn&rsquo;t have an honour code</htmltext>
<tokenext>Quite I hope for his sake his college doesn    t have an honour code</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Quite I hope for his sake his college doesn’t have an honour code</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424558</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30426216</id>
	<title>you FAIL it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260707880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><A HREF="http://goat.cx/" title="goat.cx" rel="nofollow">A relat1vely roots and gets on</a> [goat.cx]</htmltext>
<tokenext>A relat1vely roots and gets on [ goat.cx ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A relat1vely roots and gets on [goat.cx]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424960</id>
	<title>Dupe ?</title>
	<author>eulernet</author>
	<datestamp>1260697860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The scanner was described 3 months ago in a question to Ask Slashdot:<br><a href="http://ask.slashdot.org/story/09/09/27/199251/Software-To-Flatten-a-Photographed-Book" title="slashdot.org">http://ask.slashdot.org/story/09/09/27/199251/Software-To-Flatten-a-Photographed-Book</a> [slashdot.org]</p><p>The answer:<br><a href="http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1383895&amp;cid=29559637" title="slashdot.org">http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1383895&amp;cid=29559637</a> [slashdot.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The scanner was described 3 months ago in a question to Ask Slashdot : http : //ask.slashdot.org/story/09/09/27/199251/Software-To-Flatten-a-Photographed-Book [ slashdot.org ] The answer : http : //ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl ? sid = 1383895&amp;cid = 29559637 [ slashdot.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The scanner was described 3 months ago in a question to Ask Slashdot:http://ask.slashdot.org/story/09/09/27/199251/Software-To-Flatten-a-Photographed-Book [slashdot.org]The answer:http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1383895&amp;cid=29559637 [slashdot.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30426350</id>
	<title>So w/o the software this is . . .</title>
	<author>wrencherd</author>
	<datestamp>1260709440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>. . . a light box and two cameras?</p><p>Perhaps I'm not smart enough to see it, but that's a pretty low standard of DIY, even for "Instructables".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>.
. .
a light box and two cameras ? Perhaps I 'm not smart enough to see it , but that 's a pretty low standard of DIY , even for " Instructables " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>.
. .
a light box and two cameras?Perhaps I'm not smart enough to see it, but that's a pretty low standard of DIY, even for "Instructables".</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30431334</id>
	<title>Re:better wy</title>
	<author>autophile</author>
	<datestamp>1260807900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>3. Saw the spines off the book and for God's sake use some C-clamps on each end of the book. Preferably sandwich them between two flat boards.</p></div></blockquote><p>That worked great for those books from the 17th century that I put online and are now searchable. However, for some reason the library won't let me back in for more...?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>3 .
Saw the spines off the book and for God 's sake use some C-clamps on each end of the book .
Preferably sandwich them between two flat boards.That worked great for those books from the 17th century that I put online and are now searchable .
However , for some reason the library wo n't let me back in for more... ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>3.
Saw the spines off the book and for God's sake use some C-clamps on each end of the book.
Preferably sandwich them between two flat boards.That worked great for those books from the 17th century that I put online and are now searchable.
However, for some reason the library won't let me back in for more...?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424672</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424560</id>
	<title>Re:Cameras usually stink for this....</title>
	<author>maxume</author>
	<datestamp>1260694980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Lots of book scanners use ccds. They are good enough. No one really wants a 'portable' scanned document that weighs in at 3 gigabytes anyway, current laptop IO makes that a pain in the ass.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Lots of book scanners use ccds .
They are good enough .
No one really wants a 'portable ' scanned document that weighs in at 3 gigabytes anyway , current laptop IO makes that a pain in the ass .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lots of book scanners use ccds.
They are good enough.
No one really wants a 'portable' scanned document that weighs in at 3 gigabytes anyway, current laptop IO makes that a pain in the ass.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424490</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30428286</id>
	<title>Re:Cameras usually stink for this....</title>
	<author>Toonol</author>
	<datestamp>1260729360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>Not gonna look very readable on your laptop screen, and forget about reading the book's footnotes.....</i> <br> <br>

No, it's fine.  A laptop screen is 1400x900 or thereabouts; even a cheap camera will have better resolution than that.  It's not going to be a problem unless you're doing a fair amount of zooming in.<br> <br>

At 1200dpi, an 8.5" x 11" document will be 10,200 x 13,200 resolution.  That may be useful for some purposes, but for simple text browsing it's overkill by nearly a whole order of magnitude.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not gon na look very readable on your laptop screen , and forget about reading the book 's footnotes.... . No , it 's fine .
A laptop screen is 1400x900 or thereabouts ; even a cheap camera will have better resolution than that .
It 's not going to be a problem unless you 're doing a fair amount of zooming in .
At 1200dpi , an 8.5 " x 11 " document will be 10,200 x 13,200 resolution .
That may be useful for some purposes , but for simple text browsing it 's overkill by nearly a whole order of magnitude .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not gonna look very readable on your laptop screen, and forget about reading the book's footnotes.....  

No, it's fine.
A laptop screen is 1400x900 or thereabouts; even a cheap camera will have better resolution than that.
It's not going to be a problem unless you're doing a fair amount of zooming in.
At 1200dpi, an 8.5" x 11" document will be 10,200 x 13,200 resolution.
That may be useful for some purposes, but for simple text browsing it's overkill by nearly a whole order of magnitude.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424490</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30425580</id>
	<title>See also the BookLiberator, a more compact design</title>
	<author>kfogel</author>
	<datestamp>1260702600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>See also the <a href="http://bookliberator.com/" title="bookliberator.com">BookLiberator</a> [bookliberator.com], a somewhat more compact cube-in-cradle design, that's also easy to build.  Although soon you won't have to build your own: we're prototyping a manufacturable, flat-packed kit to sell from our online store; see <a href="http://questioncopyright.org/bookliberator" title="questioncopyright.org">questioncopyright.org/bookliberator</a> [questioncopyright.org] for more about the project.  It should be ready next year.</p><p>None of which is to detract from Reetz's accomplishment, of course.  This renaissance in personal book scanners is going to make it easier for all of them, in the long run, especially as we can share the same open source software among all the scanners.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>See also the BookLiberator [ bookliberator.com ] , a somewhat more compact cube-in-cradle design , that 's also easy to build .
Although soon you wo n't have to build your own : we 're prototyping a manufacturable , flat-packed kit to sell from our online store ; see questioncopyright.org/bookliberator [ questioncopyright.org ] for more about the project .
It should be ready next year.None of which is to detract from Reetz 's accomplishment , of course .
This renaissance in personal book scanners is going to make it easier for all of them , in the long run , especially as we can share the same open source software among all the scanners .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>See also the BookLiberator [bookliberator.com], a somewhat more compact cube-in-cradle design, that's also easy to build.
Although soon you won't have to build your own: we're prototyping a manufacturable, flat-packed kit to sell from our online store; see questioncopyright.org/bookliberator [questioncopyright.org] for more about the project.
It should be ready next year.None of which is to detract from Reetz's accomplishment, of course.
This renaissance in personal book scanners is going to make it easier for all of them, in the long run, especially as we can share the same open source software among all the scanners.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30425922</id>
	<title>The real problem</title>
	<author>zerofoo</author>
	<datestamp>1260705600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>"It was a watershed moment when I realized getting an 8-megapixel Canon camera was cheaper than buying a bunch of textbooks."</i></p><p>There in lies the real problem.  Textbooks are too damn expensive and have been for many years.</p><p>-ted</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" It was a watershed moment when I realized getting an 8-megapixel Canon camera was cheaper than buying a bunch of textbooks .
" There in lies the real problem .
Textbooks are too damn expensive and have been for many years.-ted</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"It was a watershed moment when I realized getting an 8-megapixel Canon camera was cheaper than buying a bunch of textbooks.
"There in lies the real problem.
Textbooks are too damn expensive and have been for many years.-ted</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30425240</id>
	<title>Re:Heh</title>
	<author>rdnetto</author>
	<datestamp>1260700020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not sure where you live, but in most areas format shifting is usually recognized as fair use. Whether or not torrenting the PDF counts as format shifting isn't a question that the courts have answered yet, but it's currently the most convenient method.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not sure where you live , but in most areas format shifting is usually recognized as fair use .
Whether or not torrenting the PDF counts as format shifting is n't a question that the courts have answered yet , but it 's currently the most convenient method .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not sure where you live, but in most areas format shifting is usually recognized as fair use.
Whether or not torrenting the PDF counts as format shifting isn't a question that the courts have answered yet, but it's currently the most convenient method.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424414</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30426926</id>
	<title>Re:</title>
	<author>clint999</author>
	<datestamp>1260714600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Right.  After all, scanners have only been around for about fifty years: the publishers just haven't noticed yet.  This homebrew effort is sure to bring the matter to their attention.</p></div></blockquote></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Right .
After all , scanners have only been around for about fifty years : the publishers just have n't noticed yet .
This homebrew effort is sure to bring the matter to their attention .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Right.
After all, scanners have only been around for about fifty years: the publishers just haven't noticed yet.
This homebrew effort is sure to bring the matter to their attention.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30427634</id>
	<title>Re:on a related note</title>
	<author>Agamous Child</author>
	<datestamp>1260721740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>How do you get a job in the porn web industry anyway?</htmltext>
<tokenext>How do you get a job in the porn web industry anyway ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How do you get a job in the porn web industry anyway?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30425076</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30425338</id>
	<title>Re:high quality digital cameras doom textbooks</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260700800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>..and enterprising kid could buy the popular undergrad books, cut them up, use a professional autofeed / OCR scanner (pirate the software) and make a tidy sum selling USB keys for ~500 year old knowledge that should have been opened and standardized in form a LONG time ago. It's fundamentally \_wrong\_ that kids need to pay $1000's for undergraduate books when the fundamentals are hundreds of years old.</p><p>Fuck the SOBs. You could make the argument that undergrads shouldn't even need books, if the Profs were actually as good as most of them think they are.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>..and enterprising kid could buy the popular undergrad books , cut them up , use a professional autofeed / OCR scanner ( pirate the software ) and make a tidy sum selling USB keys for ~ 500 year old knowledge that should have been opened and standardized in form a LONG time ago .
It 's fundamentally \ _wrong \ _ that kids need to pay $ 1000 's for undergraduate books when the fundamentals are hundreds of years old.Fuck the SOBs .
You could make the argument that undergrads should n't even need books , if the Profs were actually as good as most of them think they are .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>..and enterprising kid could buy the popular undergrad books, cut them up, use a professional autofeed / OCR scanner (pirate the software) and make a tidy sum selling USB keys for ~500 year old knowledge that should have been opened and standardized in form a LONG time ago.
It's fundamentally \_wrong\_ that kids need to pay $1000's for undergraduate books when the fundamentals are hundreds of years old.Fuck the SOBs.
You could make the argument that undergrads shouldn't even need books, if the Profs were actually as good as most of them think they are.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424608</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424308</id>
	<title>Too bad slavery is illegal</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260736140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This would be a good activity for the winter months when farming isn't possible.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This would be a good activity for the winter months when farming is n't possible .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This would be a good activity for the winter months when farming isn't possible.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424870</id>
	<title>Re:Cameras usually stink for this....</title>
	<author>atarkri</author>
	<datestamp>1260697320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The use of 5 MP cameras is more than sufficient for reading the scanned books at any resolution, if you'd bother to check out any of the sample scans he's released on instructables or the diybookscanner website.

Dan chewed on this "problem" of insufficient resolution for a month or so before he did some tests and concluded that digital cameras just plain take better pictures than scanners do, since the technology used in scanners is old and stagnant; while the computing power in these smaller, cheaper digital cameras continues to improve.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The use of 5 MP cameras is more than sufficient for reading the scanned books at any resolution , if you 'd bother to check out any of the sample scans he 's released on instructables or the diybookscanner website .
Dan chewed on this " problem " of insufficient resolution for a month or so before he did some tests and concluded that digital cameras just plain take better pictures than scanners do , since the technology used in scanners is old and stagnant ; while the computing power in these smaller , cheaper digital cameras continues to improve .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The use of 5 MP cameras is more than sufficient for reading the scanned books at any resolution, if you'd bother to check out any of the sample scans he's released on instructables or the diybookscanner website.
Dan chewed on this "problem" of insufficient resolution for a month or so before he did some tests and concluded that digital cameras just plain take better pictures than scanners do, since the technology used in scanners is old and stagnant; while the computing power in these smaller, cheaper digital cameras continues to improve.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424490</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30429438</id>
	<title>Re:better wy</title>
	<author>MartinSchou</author>
	<datestamp>1260791400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sure, but then you can't sell the book when you're done with it.</p><p>A perfectly good book (used only once to scan it) and its accompanying digitized version (he's not allowed to keep it after all) will fetch a lot more than a cut up book or even bulk recycled paper.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sure , but then you ca n't sell the book when you 're done with it.A perfectly good book ( used only once to scan it ) and its accompanying digitized version ( he 's not allowed to keep it after all ) will fetch a lot more than a cut up book or even bulk recycled paper .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sure, but then you can't sell the book when you're done with it.A perfectly good book (used only once to scan it) and its accompanying digitized version (he's not allowed to keep it after all) will fetch a lot more than a cut up book or even bulk recycled paper.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424672</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30427072</id>
	<title>I could have sworn I saw this on slashdot before..</title>
	<author>Zakabog</author>
	<datestamp>1260715800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Something just like this setup was in a comment for an ask slashdot article -</p><p><a href="http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1383895&amp;cid=29559637" title="slashdot.org">http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1383895&amp;cid=29559637</a> [slashdot.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Something just like this setup was in a comment for an ask slashdot article -http : //ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl ? sid = 1383895&amp;cid = 29559637 [ slashdot.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Something just like this setup was in a comment for an ask slashdot article -http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1383895&amp;cid=29559637 [slashdot.org]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30435072</id>
	<title>Re:high quality digital cameras doom textbooks</title>
	<author>SwedishPenguin</author>
	<datestamp>1260782880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well professors are already paid to write these books, it's not like they refrain from working on the book while at work. Universities giving professors some kind of incentive to write books and publish them for free electronically would be much preferred to the current system of book publishers cashing in at the expense of poor students. It's not like the authors actually receive that much of the price of a book anyway, most of it goes to the publisher.</p><p>And this is a great idea. I tend to download books off the Internet when I can find them, it saves me a ton of money, but I've never bought a book only to copy and return it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well professors are already paid to write these books , it 's not like they refrain from working on the book while at work .
Universities giving professors some kind of incentive to write books and publish them for free electronically would be much preferred to the current system of book publishers cashing in at the expense of poor students .
It 's not like the authors actually receive that much of the price of a book anyway , most of it goes to the publisher.And this is a great idea .
I tend to download books off the Internet when I can find them , it saves me a ton of money , but I 've never bought a book only to copy and return it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well professors are already paid to write these books, it's not like they refrain from working on the book while at work.
Universities giving professors some kind of incentive to write books and publish them for free electronically would be much preferred to the current system of book publishers cashing in at the expense of poor students.
It's not like the authors actually receive that much of the price of a book anyway, most of it goes to the publisher.And this is a great idea.
I tend to download books off the Internet when I can find them, it saves me a ton of money, but I've never bought a book only to copy and return it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30433568</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30429960</id>
	<title>Re:better wy</title>
	<author>drinkypoo</author>
	<datestamp>1260799320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>After you get done putting 200 hours into your creation, you'll have spent thousands of dollars worth of your time.</p></div><p>That's only if you're in a position where someone will pay you for those 200 hours. If nobody is willing to pay you for them, your time is worth exactly bupkis. A student's time is worth far less than a professional's. And if you don't have the money for the books, but do have the money for the scanner, then you are indeed well-paid for your efforts.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>After you get done putting 200 hours into your creation , you 'll have spent thousands of dollars worth of your time.That 's only if you 're in a position where someone will pay you for those 200 hours .
If nobody is willing to pay you for them , your time is worth exactly bupkis .
A student 's time is worth far less than a professional 's .
And if you do n't have the money for the books , but do have the money for the scanner , then you are indeed well-paid for your efforts .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>After you get done putting 200 hours into your creation, you'll have spent thousands of dollars worth of your time.That's only if you're in a position where someone will pay you for those 200 hours.
If nobody is willing to pay you for them, your time is worth exactly bupkis.
A student's time is worth far less than a professional's.
And if you don't have the money for the books, but do have the money for the scanner, then you are indeed well-paid for your efforts.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424672</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424600</id>
	<title>Re:Cameras usually stink for this....</title>
	<author>Chris Tucker</author>
	<datestamp>1260695280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>FYI, the color camera on the Mars Rovers.</p><p>One Megapixel. Really spiffy and detailed images of the Martian landscape for only one megapixel, don't you think?</p><p>Also, TFA states he's using OCR to create a PDF.</p><p>If the image from the camera is sharp enough, the OCR software should have no trouble "reading" it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>FYI , the color camera on the Mars Rovers.One Megapixel .
Really spiffy and detailed images of the Martian landscape for only one megapixel , do n't you think ? Also , TFA states he 's using OCR to create a PDF.If the image from the camera is sharp enough , the OCR software should have no trouble " reading " it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>FYI, the color camera on the Mars Rovers.One Megapixel.
Really spiffy and detailed images of the Martian landscape for only one megapixel, don't you think?Also, TFA states he's using OCR to create a PDF.If the image from the camera is sharp enough, the OCR software should have no trouble "reading" it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30425286</id>
	<title>Camera batteries</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260700320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I used to use my Sony DSCP72 Cyber-shot 3.2MP digital camera to digitize chapters of my text books in college and convert them to PDF (I forget what software I used), but I stopped once I realized I never actually read them. The major limiting factor in how many pages I could scan at once was the camera's battery life, and in this design the cameras he uses are still powered by AA batteries. Being able to use an AC adapter would be useful, though that's really just a limitation of the cameras he's using. Since turning off the flash improves the camera's battery life a lot, the halogen light is nice to keep the images bright. The other improvements over simply taking the pictures with a camera are pretty minor, but definitely make it less cumbersome.</p><p>Images of pages taken from my netbook's 1.3 MP camera are actually pretty readable as well. For the poor college student, simply using a webcam and some decent lighting is a viable alternative: it's a lot cheaper, more space efficient, and gets around the problem of having to use batteries, at the cost of being a bit slower, since you have to take more time setting up the book and camera and can only take one page at a time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I used to use my Sony DSCP72 Cyber-shot 3.2MP digital camera to digitize chapters of my text books in college and convert them to PDF ( I forget what software I used ) , but I stopped once I realized I never actually read them .
The major limiting factor in how many pages I could scan at once was the camera 's battery life , and in this design the cameras he uses are still powered by AA batteries .
Being able to use an AC adapter would be useful , though that 's really just a limitation of the cameras he 's using .
Since turning off the flash improves the camera 's battery life a lot , the halogen light is nice to keep the images bright .
The other improvements over simply taking the pictures with a camera are pretty minor , but definitely make it less cumbersome.Images of pages taken from my netbook 's 1.3 MP camera are actually pretty readable as well .
For the poor college student , simply using a webcam and some decent lighting is a viable alternative : it 's a lot cheaper , more space efficient , and gets around the problem of having to use batteries , at the cost of being a bit slower , since you have to take more time setting up the book and camera and can only take one page at a time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I used to use my Sony DSCP72 Cyber-shot 3.2MP digital camera to digitize chapters of my text books in college and convert them to PDF (I forget what software I used), but I stopped once I realized I never actually read them.
The major limiting factor in how many pages I could scan at once was the camera's battery life, and in this design the cameras he uses are still powered by AA batteries.
Being able to use an AC adapter would be useful, though that's really just a limitation of the cameras he's using.
Since turning off the flash improves the camera's battery life a lot, the halogen light is nice to keep the images bright.
The other improvements over simply taking the pictures with a camera are pretty minor, but definitely make it less cumbersome.Images of pages taken from my netbook's 1.3 MP camera are actually pretty readable as well.
For the poor college student, simply using a webcam and some decent lighting is a viable alternative: it's a lot cheaper, more space efficient, and gets around the problem of having to use batteries, at the cost of being a bit slower, since you have to take more time setting up the book and camera and can only take one page at a time.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30426002</id>
	<title>Re:A bargain</title>
	<author>Farhood</author>
	<datestamp>1260706260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have Kinko's/Staples/ Office Depot cut off the spine ($1-$5), clip it on all sides, and go home to my Fujitsu ScanSnap for ADF scanning, auto color/ b/w selection, and OCR.  Oh, and you press the button once and walk away.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have Kinko 's/Staples/ Office Depot cut off the spine ( $ 1- $ 5 ) , clip it on all sides , and go home to my Fujitsu ScanSnap for ADF scanning , auto color/ b/w selection , and OCR .
Oh , and you press the button once and walk away .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have Kinko's/Staples/ Office Depot cut off the spine ($1-$5), clip it on all sides, and go home to my Fujitsu ScanSnap for ADF scanning, auto color/ b/w selection, and OCR.
Oh, and you press the button once and walk away.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424390</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30429684</id>
	<title>Re:eBook</title>
	<author>DrXym</author>
	<datestamp>1260795600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>Now if only textbooks came as e-books, then this whole tech would be un necessary.</i>
<p>
Not if the the books are DRM'd or locked to one device. Or as long as there are freeloaders prepared to avoid paying for the material.
</p><p>
In a few years we'll be hearing about people who've hooked up their Kindle DXs / Sony Readers up to a flatbed scanner so that they can automatically scan content straight off the device and OCR it. It should be pretty trivial to do too - just pop the page turn buttons and wire them up to some kind of computer controlled switch instead. Scan turn page, scan, turn page, scan etc. Could probably do most books in under 40 minutes with no user interaction.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now if only textbooks came as e-books , then this whole tech would be un necessary .
Not if the the books are DRM 'd or locked to one device .
Or as long as there are freeloaders prepared to avoid paying for the material .
In a few years we 'll be hearing about people who 've hooked up their Kindle DXs / Sony Readers up to a flatbed scanner so that they can automatically scan content straight off the device and OCR it .
It should be pretty trivial to do too - just pop the page turn buttons and wire them up to some kind of computer controlled switch instead .
Scan turn page , scan , turn page , scan etc .
Could probably do most books in under 40 minutes with no user interaction .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now if only textbooks came as e-books, then this whole tech would be un necessary.
Not if the the books are DRM'd or locked to one device.
Or as long as there are freeloaders prepared to avoid paying for the material.
In a few years we'll be hearing about people who've hooked up their Kindle DXs / Sony Readers up to a flatbed scanner so that they can automatically scan content straight off the device and OCR it.
It should be pretty trivial to do too - just pop the page turn buttons and wire them up to some kind of computer controlled switch instead.
Scan turn page, scan, turn page, scan etc.
Could probably do most books in under 40 minutes with no user interaction.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30425908</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424414</id>
	<title>Heh</title>
	<author>sys.stdout.write</author>
	<datestamp>1260736980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>I do this for my law school textbooks (unless you're a book publisher, in which case I am joking and would never break the law).<br> <br>
I was excited when I read this because it is a pain in the ass to turn the pages in a 1000 page Constitutional Law textbook.  Thus, you can imagine my disappointment when I read that his machine doesn't automate this.<br> <br>
Most universities have at least one library which has a Ricoh scanner that does exactly what his does, i.e. it writes out a PDF onto your USB stick.  I don't know where he's a graduate student, but I bet if he looked in his library he could have saved himself $300.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do this for my law school textbooks ( unless you 're a book publisher , in which case I am joking and would never break the law ) .
I was excited when I read this because it is a pain in the ass to turn the pages in a 1000 page Constitutional Law textbook .
Thus , you can imagine my disappointment when I read that his machine does n't automate this .
Most universities have at least one library which has a Ricoh scanner that does exactly what his does , i.e .
it writes out a PDF onto your USB stick .
I do n't know where he 's a graduate student , but I bet if he looked in his library he could have saved himself $ 300 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I do this for my law school textbooks (unless you're a book publisher, in which case I am joking and would never break the law).
I was excited when I read this because it is a pain in the ass to turn the pages in a 1000 page Constitutional Law textbook.
Thus, you can imagine my disappointment when I read that his machine doesn't automate this.
Most universities have at least one library which has a Ricoh scanner that does exactly what his does, i.e.
it writes out a PDF onto your USB stick.
I don't know where he's a graduate student, but I bet if he looked in his library he could have saved himself $300.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424726</id>
	<title>Well, ironically</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260696420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ironically, all these books that he and others are trying to scan into a digital format where created in a digital format from the start, sitting on a publisher's computer somewhere.</p><p>Thanks copyright laws! Thank you very little.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ironically , all these books that he and others are trying to scan into a digital format where created in a digital format from the start , sitting on a publisher 's computer somewhere.Thanks copyright laws !
Thank you very little .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ironically, all these books that he and others are trying to scan into a digital format where created in a digital format from the start, sitting on a publisher's computer somewhere.Thanks copyright laws!
Thank you very little.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30425744</id>
	<title>I wonder if anyone in my area has such a rig?</title>
	<author>erroneus</author>
	<datestamp>1260703860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have a book I would LOVE to preserve digitally.  I have an extremely rare and out of print book -- it doesn't have an ISBN or anything!  Technically, though, I believe it is copyrighted.  I would like to scan it in and OCR it into a usable format that can then be put anywhere.  (PDF bitmap pages are ridiculously large!)  It is "Home Again" by James Edmiston.  Copyright 1955 by James Ewen Edmiston, Jr. First Edition, signed by the author.  Library of Congress number 55-5265.  It is a significant and important book, in my opinion, and quite likely valuable as well.  (Originally sold for $4, quite likely worth a lot more now...)  I wonder how long the copyright will last on this book?</p><p>I am in Northern Virginia, so if anyone has a book scanning rig, I'd love a chance to use it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a book I would LOVE to preserve digitally .
I have an extremely rare and out of print book -- it does n't have an ISBN or anything !
Technically , though , I believe it is copyrighted .
I would like to scan it in and OCR it into a usable format that can then be put anywhere .
( PDF bitmap pages are ridiculously large !
) It is " Home Again " by James Edmiston .
Copyright 1955 by James Ewen Edmiston , Jr. First Edition , signed by the author .
Library of Congress number 55-5265 .
It is a significant and important book , in my opinion , and quite likely valuable as well .
( Originally sold for $ 4 , quite likely worth a lot more now... ) I wonder how long the copyright will last on this book ? I am in Northern Virginia , so if anyone has a book scanning rig , I 'd love a chance to use it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a book I would LOVE to preserve digitally.
I have an extremely rare and out of print book -- it doesn't have an ISBN or anything!
Technically, though, I believe it is copyrighted.
I would like to scan it in and OCR it into a usable format that can then be put anywhere.
(PDF bitmap pages are ridiculously large!
)  It is "Home Again" by James Edmiston.
Copyright 1955 by James Ewen Edmiston, Jr. First Edition, signed by the author.
Library of Congress number 55-5265.
It is a significant and important book, in my opinion, and quite likely valuable as well.
(Originally sold for $4, quite likely worth a lot more now...)  I wonder how long the copyright will last on this book?I am in Northern Virginia, so if anyone has a book scanning rig, I'd love a chance to use it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30426302</id>
	<title>Re:I wonder if anyone in my area has such a rig?</title>
	<author>erroneus</author>
	<datestamp>1260708900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well Merry Christmas to me!  I found it!  The very same file... and perhaps in the very same place.  Check out the file dates in here...</p><p><a href="ftp://ftp.de.flightgear.org/ftp.monash.edu.au/pub/nihongo/" title="flightgear.org">ftp://ftp.de.flightgear.org/ftp.monash.edu.au/pub/nihongo/</a> [flightgear.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well Merry Christmas to me !
I found it !
The very same file... and perhaps in the very same place .
Check out the file dates in here...ftp : //ftp.de.flightgear.org/ftp.monash.edu.au/pub/nihongo/ [ flightgear.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well Merry Christmas to me!
I found it!
The very same file... and perhaps in the very same place.
Check out the file dates in here...ftp://ftp.de.flightgear.org/ftp.monash.edu.au/pub/nihongo/ [flightgear.org]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30425744</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30434744</id>
	<title>Re:Heh</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260781200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>it's Romania, thank you very much<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</htmltext>
<tokenext>it 's Romania , thank you very much : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>it's Romania, thank you very much :)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30427754</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30428700</id>
	<title>Why PDF</title>
	<author>shitzu</author>
	<datestamp>1260822840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He would get much smaller file with the same or better readability with djvu</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He would get much smaller file with the same or better readability with djvu</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He would get much smaller file with the same or better readability with djvu</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30438084</id>
	<title>Re:better wy</title>
	<author>DigitalCrackPipe</author>
	<datestamp>1260797460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>There are a lot of people who have no interest in desecrating their books, and for them that method is useless.  This is a non-destructive method.  Note in the article it mentions the 90 degree bend to not destroy the spine as with flatbed scanning.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There are a lot of people who have no interest in desecrating their books , and for them that method is useless .
This is a non-destructive method .
Note in the article it mentions the 90 degree bend to not destroy the spine as with flatbed scanning .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are a lot of people who have no interest in desecrating their books, and for them that method is useless.
This is a non-destructive method.
Note in the article it mentions the 90 degree bend to not destroy the spine as with flatbed scanning.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424672</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30428470</id>
	<title>Re:Camera batteries</title>
	<author>plover</author>
	<datestamp>1260732480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>An old wall-wart from some ancient piece of electronic gear can often deliver the needed power.  Anyone capable of building this scanner should be able to scrounge up a functioning replacement power source.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>An old wall-wart from some ancient piece of electronic gear can often deliver the needed power .
Anyone capable of building this scanner should be able to scrounge up a functioning replacement power source .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An old wall-wart from some ancient piece of electronic gear can often deliver the needed power.
Anyone capable of building this scanner should be able to scrounge up a functioning replacement power source.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30425286</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30425734</id>
	<title>Re:He's just pretending</title>
	<author>couchslug</author>
	<datestamp>1260703740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Clearly he is just using this to scan other people's books to avoid paying."</p><p>Textbook makers and colleges exploit a captive student population, so that attitude is understandable.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Clearly he is just using this to scan other people 's books to avoid paying .
" Textbook makers and colleges exploit a captive student population , so that attitude is understandable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Clearly he is just using this to scan other people's books to avoid paying.
"Textbook makers and colleges exploit a captive student population, so that attitude is understandable.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424558</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424642</id>
	<title>e-versions . . .</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260695580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The publisher of the textbooks I use offer e-versions. The e-versions are cheaper than the physical book, and even though they are copy-protected, they can easily be saved as a pdf file.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The publisher of the textbooks I use offer e-versions .
The e-versions are cheaper than the physical book , and even though they are copy-protected , they can easily be saved as a pdf file .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The publisher of the textbooks I use offer e-versions.
The e-versions are cheaper than the physical book, and even though they are copy-protected, they can easily be saved as a pdf file.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30425910</id>
	<title>Re:A bargain</title>
	<author>noidentity</author>
	<datestamp>1260705480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>He could get automated page-turning for about $5 per book, or half a pizza.</htmltext>
<tokenext>He could get automated page-turning for about $ 5 per book , or half a pizza .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He could get automated page-turning for about $5 per book, or half a pizza.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424390</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30427290</id>
	<title>Re:better wy</title>
	<author>stephows</author>
	<datestamp>1260717840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>An excellent method if you don't mind damaging the books. Not so good if you are borrowing books (which is technically piracy anyway) or if you just want to keep the original books in good condition, perhaps for resale in later years.</htmltext>
<tokenext>An excellent method if you do n't mind damaging the books .
Not so good if you are borrowing books ( which is technically piracy anyway ) or if you just want to keep the original books in good condition , perhaps for resale in later years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An excellent method if you don't mind damaging the books.
Not so good if you are borrowing books (which is technically piracy anyway) or if you just want to keep the original books in good condition, perhaps for resale in later years.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424672</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30425038</id>
	<title>Re:I've</title>
	<author>The -e**(i*pi)</author>
	<datestamp>1260698580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.geocities.jp/takascience/lego/fabs\_en.html" title="geocities.jp" rel="nofollow">http://www.geocities.jp/takascience/lego/fabs\_en.html</a> [geocities.jp]</p><p>turning the pages and scanning is childs play</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.geocities.jp/takascience/lego/fabs \ _en.html [ geocities.jp ] turning the pages and scanning is childs play</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.geocities.jp/takascience/lego/fabs\_en.html [geocities.jp]turning the pages and scanning is childs play</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424656</id>
	<title>Bandsaw</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260695760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just use a bandsaw to cut off the spine and feed it through a normal scanner with a sheet feeder. Duh. Faster, cheaper, and better results along the spine.</p><p>Oh, you wanted to keep the books INTACT?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just use a bandsaw to cut off the spine and feed it through a normal scanner with a sheet feeder .
Duh. Faster , cheaper , and better results along the spine.Oh , you wanted to keep the books INTACT ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just use a bandsaw to cut off the spine and feed it through a normal scanner with a sheet feeder.
Duh. Faster, cheaper, and better results along the spine.Oh, you wanted to keep the books INTACT?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30426886</id>
	<title>Re:e-versions . . .</title>
	<author>AHuxley</author>
	<datestamp>1260714300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Do you really want your books to be Jeff Bezos'ed at anytime?<br>
<a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/18/amazon\_removes\_1984\_from\_kindle/" title="theregister.co.uk">http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/18/amazon\_removes\_1984\_from\_kindle/</a> [theregister.co.uk]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do you really want your books to be Jeff Bezos'ed at anytime ?
http : //www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/18/amazon \ _removes \ _1984 \ _from \ _kindle/ [ theregister.co.uk ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do you really want your books to be Jeff Bezos'ed at anytime?
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/18/amazon\_removes\_1984\_from\_kindle/ [theregister.co.uk]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424642</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30427818</id>
	<title>Re:Well, ironically</title>
	<author>dontmakemethink</author>
	<datestamp>1260723600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Imagine how many trees we wouldn't have gotten to beat to a pulp though!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Imagine how many trees we would n't have gotten to beat to a pulp though !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Imagine how many trees we wouldn't have gotten to beat to a pulp though!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424726</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424590</id>
	<title>Re:Cameras usually stink for this....</title>
	<author>smallfries</author>
	<datestamp>1260695160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You haven't actually tried this have you? I've had various flatbed A4 scanners over the years, all at much higher resolution than a camera, and hence all got down-sampled afterwards for my display that is only 1.5MP anyway. Then I switched to using a phone camera with only a 2MP CCD, but a really good lens and decent macro mode (Sony-Ericcson Cybershot for those that are interested). As long as the focus was good it produced perfectly readable shots, and so it became my portable scanner. These days I mostly shot stuff at home so I have a 12MP DSLR to hand. It's huge overkill, and I massively down-sample stuff afterwards, but entirely readable. So your basic claim that this can't be done with a camera based on the resolution compared to a scanner is a complete load of bollocks. The focus of the lens tends to be the important issue.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You have n't actually tried this have you ?
I 've had various flatbed A4 scanners over the years , all at much higher resolution than a camera , and hence all got down-sampled afterwards for my display that is only 1.5MP anyway .
Then I switched to using a phone camera with only a 2MP CCD , but a really good lens and decent macro mode ( Sony-Ericcson Cybershot for those that are interested ) .
As long as the focus was good it produced perfectly readable shots , and so it became my portable scanner .
These days I mostly shot stuff at home so I have a 12MP DSLR to hand .
It 's huge overkill , and I massively down-sample stuff afterwards , but entirely readable .
So your basic claim that this ca n't be done with a camera based on the resolution compared to a scanner is a complete load of bollocks .
The focus of the lens tends to be the important issue .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You haven't actually tried this have you?
I've had various flatbed A4 scanners over the years, all at much higher resolution than a camera, and hence all got down-sampled afterwards for my display that is only 1.5MP anyway.
Then I switched to using a phone camera with only a 2MP CCD, but a really good lens and decent macro mode (Sony-Ericcson Cybershot for those that are interested).
As long as the focus was good it produced perfectly readable shots, and so it became my portable scanner.
These days I mostly shot stuff at home so I have a 12MP DSLR to hand.
It's huge overkill, and I massively down-sample stuff afterwards, but entirely readable.
So your basic claim that this can't be done with a camera based on the resolution compared to a scanner is a complete load of bollocks.
The focus of the lens tends to be the important issue.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30428634</id>
	<title>Re:Look out!</title>
	<author>nametaken</author>
	<datestamp>1260821940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not sure he did it for his own property.  But it does prove that books have the best DRM of all.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not sure he did it for his own property .
But it does prove that books have the best DRM of all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not sure he did it for his own property.
But it does prove that books have the best DRM of all.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424328</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30427524</id>
	<title>Re:Are there scanners that accept a stack of sheet</title>
	<author>RealGrouchy</author>
	<datestamp>1260720360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I am skeptical that fair-use rights to create the digital copy would remain once you sell (or return) the original.</p><p>- RG&gt;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am skeptical that fair-use rights to create the digital copy would remain once you sell ( or return ) the original.- RG &gt;</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am skeptical that fair-use rights to create the digital copy would remain once you sell (or return) the original.- RG&gt;</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30425102</id>
	<title>Re:Heh</title>
	<author>Weezul</author>
	<datestamp>1260699000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think most medical, science, engineering, etc. texts are all available on the russian book text pirate sites like giggle and gigapedia.  I doubt people outside the U.S. bother scanning U.S. law text books, but maybe you'll find some particularly common ones uploaded by American students.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think most medical , science , engineering , etc .
texts are all available on the russian book text pirate sites like giggle and gigapedia .
I doubt people outside the U.S. bother scanning U.S. law text books , but maybe you 'll find some particularly common ones uploaded by American students .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think most medical, science, engineering, etc.
texts are all available on the russian book text pirate sites like giggle and gigapedia.
I doubt people outside the U.S. bother scanning U.S. law text books, but maybe you'll find some particularly common ones uploaded by American students.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424558</id>
	<title>He's just pretending</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260694980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He keeps talking about how expensive the books are.  Clearly he is just using this to scan other people's books to avoid paying.</p><p>Still a pretty cool build though<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:P</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He keeps talking about how expensive the books are .
Clearly he is just using this to scan other people 's books to avoid paying.Still a pretty cool build though : P</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He keeps talking about how expensive the books are.
Clearly he is just using this to scan other people's books to avoid paying.Still a pretty cool build though :P</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424490</id>
	<title>Cameras usually stink for this....</title>
	<author>Slugster</author>
	<datestamp>1260737520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>It may work well enough for basic textbooks, but the problem is that (for high-quality scans) you can't ever get the same image quality from a $800 camera that you can from a $80 scanner. At 1200 DPI, a scanner is equivalent to a ~384 MP camera. Even scanning at "only" 300 DPI is ~90 MP, a far bigger image than any consumer-grade camera can provide. <br>
<br>
The cameras he used were only five megapixels.<br>
<br>
Might work for looking at the pages on your iPhone. Not gonna look very readable on your laptop screen, and forget about reading the book's footnotes.....<br>
~</htmltext>
<tokenext>It may work well enough for basic textbooks , but the problem is that ( for high-quality scans ) you ca n't ever get the same image quality from a $ 800 camera that you can from a $ 80 scanner .
At 1200 DPI , a scanner is equivalent to a ~ 384 MP camera .
Even scanning at " only " 300 DPI is ~ 90 MP , a far bigger image than any consumer-grade camera can provide .
The cameras he used were only five megapixels .
Might work for looking at the pages on your iPhone .
Not gon na look very readable on your laptop screen , and forget about reading the book 's footnotes.... . ~</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It may work well enough for basic textbooks, but the problem is that (for high-quality scans) you can't ever get the same image quality from a $800 camera that you can from a $80 scanner.
At 1200 DPI, a scanner is equivalent to a ~384 MP camera.
Even scanning at "only" 300 DPI is ~90 MP, a far bigger image than any consumer-grade camera can provide.
The cameras he used were only five megapixels.
Might work for looking at the pages on your iPhone.
Not gonna look very readable on your laptop screen, and forget about reading the book's footnotes.....
~</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424710</id>
	<title>A million monkeys...</title>
	<author>Vegard</author>
	<datestamp>1260696240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>might not be able to *write* the entire collection of Shakespeare, but with this setup, I'm quite sure that they would be able to digitize it!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>might not be able to * write * the entire collection of Shakespeare , but with this setup , I 'm quite sure that they would be able to digitize it !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>might not be able to *write* the entire collection of Shakespeare, but with this setup, I'm quite sure that they would be able to digitize it!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424310</id>
	<title>Sounds great</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260736140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>but no way it will work with linux. I can't even print with ubuntu.</htmltext>
<tokenext>but no way it will work with linux .
I ca n't even print with ubuntu .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>but no way it will work with linux.
I can't even print with ubuntu.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30428446</id>
	<title>Re:better wy</title>
	<author>mr\_zonules</author>
	<datestamp>1260731940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Or, Goto a print shop (or work for one, like me!). Cut the books with a big Guillotine clamp cutter (Super clean edges better than the original cut), then throw it through a modern copier with a RADF (Reversing Automatic Document Feeder) that automagically duplex scans in order straight to PDF. this takes about 90 seconds of human intervention if the book isn't too big (You'll probably have to put the book in the feeder in several lifts). I've done this for a class that had a HUGE hardback that we only used a couple chapters from (and I bought a funky used book for much cheaper).
Also, if you want the book back in it's semi-original state, just re-bind it. Rough-cut edges may work better for long-term, but padding the books works good enough for the 2 times you'll actually pull out the original from the library. PLUS, you can put cool custom spines on your books (barcoded, for sure).

-Z</htmltext>
<tokenext>Or , Goto a print shop ( or work for one , like me ! ) .
Cut the books with a big Guillotine clamp cutter ( Super clean edges better than the original cut ) , then throw it through a modern copier with a RADF ( Reversing Automatic Document Feeder ) that automagically duplex scans in order straight to PDF .
this takes about 90 seconds of human intervention if the book is n't too big ( You 'll probably have to put the book in the feeder in several lifts ) .
I 've done this for a class that had a HUGE hardback that we only used a couple chapters from ( and I bought a funky used book for much cheaper ) .
Also , if you want the book back in it 's semi-original state , just re-bind it .
Rough-cut edges may work better for long-term , but padding the books works good enough for the 2 times you 'll actually pull out the original from the library .
PLUS , you can put cool custom spines on your books ( barcoded , for sure ) .
-Z</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or, Goto a print shop (or work for one, like me!).
Cut the books with a big Guillotine clamp cutter (Super clean edges better than the original cut), then throw it through a modern copier with a RADF (Reversing Automatic Document Feeder) that automagically duplex scans in order straight to PDF.
this takes about 90 seconds of human intervention if the book isn't too big (You'll probably have to put the book in the feeder in several lifts).
I've done this for a class that had a HUGE hardback that we only used a couple chapters from (and I bought a funky used book for much cheaper).
Also, if you want the book back in it's semi-original state, just re-bind it.
Rough-cut edges may work better for long-term, but padding the books works good enough for the 2 times you'll actually pull out the original from the library.
PLUS, you can put cool custom spines on your books (barcoded, for sure).
-Z</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30428908</id>
	<title>Re:Inevitable DMCA smackdown coming?</title>
	<author>MattskEE</author>
	<datestamp>1260782520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Your fear is an overreaction, I see no reason for a scanner company to file a lawsuit here.  Even if they did, it would be for patent infringement, not copyright infringement.</p><p>First, this guy isn't selling his scanner, he just built one for himself.  So there's no reason for a lawsuit to be filed.</p><p>Second, I doubt that he he infringes on any patent help by a company that manufactures a book scanner.  The trickiest thing about these scanners is the page turning and the software for OCR and correction for page curvature.  This guy implements neither.</p><p>Third, specialist companies aren't in the habit of suing independent hackers.  Even if he was selling the scanner, he would have to charge a hell of a lot more than $300 for it because of the time spent developing and building it, and for things like marketing, quality control, support, and overhead.  It's a fact ignored by many DIY websites touting a "homemade widget for less than the greedy corporations are charging".  And even then, this scanner would not compare with the $20,000 model because of lack of automatic page turning if nothing else.</p><p>Now maybe you're thinking of textbook companies suing the guy, not the manufacturer of the $20,000 book scanner.  That's slightly more plausible.  Most books have the boilerplate "You cannot store an electronic copy of this book" notice, but there is a good case for fair use.  But even so it would be simple copyright infringement, not circumvention of copy protection mechanisms, which is what the DMCA is mainly about.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Your fear is an overreaction , I see no reason for a scanner company to file a lawsuit here .
Even if they did , it would be for patent infringement , not copyright infringement.First , this guy is n't selling his scanner , he just built one for himself .
So there 's no reason for a lawsuit to be filed.Second , I doubt that he he infringes on any patent help by a company that manufactures a book scanner .
The trickiest thing about these scanners is the page turning and the software for OCR and correction for page curvature .
This guy implements neither.Third , specialist companies are n't in the habit of suing independent hackers .
Even if he was selling the scanner , he would have to charge a hell of a lot more than $ 300 for it because of the time spent developing and building it , and for things like marketing , quality control , support , and overhead .
It 's a fact ignored by many DIY websites touting a " homemade widget for less than the greedy corporations are charging " .
And even then , this scanner would not compare with the $ 20,000 model because of lack of automatic page turning if nothing else.Now maybe you 're thinking of textbook companies suing the guy , not the manufacturer of the $ 20,000 book scanner .
That 's slightly more plausible .
Most books have the boilerplate " You can not store an electronic copy of this book " notice , but there is a good case for fair use .
But even so it would be simple copyright infringement , not circumvention of copy protection mechanisms , which is what the DMCA is mainly about .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your fear is an overreaction, I see no reason for a scanner company to file a lawsuit here.
Even if they did, it would be for patent infringement, not copyright infringement.First, this guy isn't selling his scanner, he just built one for himself.
So there's no reason for a lawsuit to be filed.Second, I doubt that he he infringes on any patent help by a company that manufactures a book scanner.
The trickiest thing about these scanners is the page turning and the software for OCR and correction for page curvature.
This guy implements neither.Third, specialist companies aren't in the habit of suing independent hackers.
Even if he was selling the scanner, he would have to charge a hell of a lot more than $300 for it because of the time spent developing and building it, and for things like marketing, quality control, support, and overhead.
It's a fact ignored by many DIY websites touting a "homemade widget for less than the greedy corporations are charging".
And even then, this scanner would not compare with the $20,000 model because of lack of automatic page turning if nothing else.Now maybe you're thinking of textbook companies suing the guy, not the manufacturer of the $20,000 book scanner.
That's slightly more plausible.
Most books have the boilerplate "You cannot store an electronic copy of this book" notice, but there is a good case for fair use.
But even so it would be simple copyright infringement, not circumvention of copy protection mechanisms, which is what the DMCA is mainly about.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424524</id>
	<title>Are there scanners that accept a stack of sheets?</title>
	<author>selven</author>
	<datestamp>1260737880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If so, wouldn't it be easier to just rip out the binding and put in the pages? The $15 cost of buying another copy is less than all that boring, repetitive manual labor.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If so , would n't it be easier to just rip out the binding and put in the pages ?
The $ 15 cost of buying another copy is less than all that boring , repetitive manual labor .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If so, wouldn't it be easier to just rip out the binding and put in the pages?
The $15 cost of buying another copy is less than all that boring, repetitive manual labor.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30425222</id>
	<title>Re:Heh</title>
	<author>TubeSteak</author>
	<datestamp>1260699840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I do this for my law school textbooks (unless you're a book publisher, in which case I am joking and would never break the law).</p></div><p>What law are you breaking?<br>Whether you scan it and convert the OCRed text into an audio book, rip all the pages out and turn it into an art exhibit, or use the book for toilet paper, the publisher has no legal right (AFAIK) to stop you.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do this for my law school textbooks ( unless you 're a book publisher , in which case I am joking and would never break the law ) .What law are you breaking ? Whether you scan it and convert the OCRed text into an audio book , rip all the pages out and turn it into an art exhibit , or use the book for toilet paper , the publisher has no legal right ( AFAIK ) to stop you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I do this for my law school textbooks (unless you're a book publisher, in which case I am joking and would never break the law).What law are you breaking?Whether you scan it and convert the OCRed text into an audio book, rip all the pages out and turn it into an art exhibit, or use the book for toilet paper, the publisher has no legal right (AFAIK) to stop you.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30425882</id>
	<title>Re:I've</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260705240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Has anyone tried shotgun scanning yet? Irregularly shred the books, feed the shreds into a bulk scanner, and use a computer to reassemble.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Has anyone tried shotgun scanning yet ?
Irregularly shred the books , feed the shreds into a bulk scanner , and use a computer to reassemble .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Has anyone tried shotgun scanning yet?
Irregularly shred the books, feed the shreds into a bulk scanner, and use a computer to reassemble.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30429724</id>
	<title>Re:Are there scanners that accept a stack of sheet</title>
	<author>tehcyder</author>
	<datestamp>1260796260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>If you rip out the binding, <strong>most</strong> bookstores are going to frown on returns.</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
All, I'd have thought.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you rip out the binding , most bookstores are going to frown on returns .
All , I 'd have thought .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you rip out the binding, most bookstores are going to frown on returns.
All, I'd have thought.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424776</id>
	<title>Copier</title>
	<author>paiute</author>
	<datestamp>1260696840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I thought about doing this several years ago to archive a huge stack of old lab notebooks, then we bought some Ricoh copiers that were also scanners with a platen large enough to scan two pages at once. I was able to turn a 300 page notebook into pdfs in about a half hour.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I thought about doing this several years ago to archive a huge stack of old lab notebooks , then we bought some Ricoh copiers that were also scanners with a platen large enough to scan two pages at once .
I was able to turn a 300 page notebook into pdfs in about a half hour .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I thought about doing this several years ago to archive a huge stack of old lab notebooks, then we bought some Ricoh copiers that were also scanners with a platen large enough to scan two pages at once.
I was able to turn a 300 page notebook into pdfs in about a half hour.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424328</id>
	<title>Look out!</title>
	<author>Chris Tucker</author>
	<datestamp>1260736260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Here comes the Publisher's Copyright Enforcement Gundams to give you "What For!".</p><p>Imagine that, thinking you could actually DO Something like that with your very own property.</p><p>What cheek!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Here comes the Publisher 's Copyright Enforcement Gundams to give you " What For !
" .Imagine that , thinking you could actually DO Something like that with your very own property.What cheek !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here comes the Publisher's Copyright Enforcement Gundams to give you "What For!
".Imagine that, thinking you could actually DO Something like that with your very own property.What cheek!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424944</id>
	<title>Re:He's just pretending</title>
	<author>atarkri</author>
	<datestamp>1260697740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Actually, the motivation behind the project stem's from Dan's stay in Russia before his graduate studies.

He realized that their are tons of old posters, pictures, and other soviet propoganda floating around the country's libraries that many people in the western world would like to view, but are unwilling to go to Russia to see.

He wanted to digitize some of these posters (works of art, in his view) in order to circulate them on the web. He soon became very frustrated with using a flatbed scanner, and stopped.

Zoom ahead a few years later, Instrucatables is having a contest to win an epilog laser cutter, so he decided to build a book scanner out of recycled (read: trash) materials and submits the project, and wins. He says he's surprised at how well the project has resonated with the web community.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , the motivation behind the project stem 's from Dan 's stay in Russia before his graduate studies .
He realized that their are tons of old posters , pictures , and other soviet propoganda floating around the country 's libraries that many people in the western world would like to view , but are unwilling to go to Russia to see .
He wanted to digitize some of these posters ( works of art , in his view ) in order to circulate them on the web .
He soon became very frustrated with using a flatbed scanner , and stopped .
Zoom ahead a few years later , Instrucatables is having a contest to win an epilog laser cutter , so he decided to build a book scanner out of recycled ( read : trash ) materials and submits the project , and wins .
He says he 's surprised at how well the project has resonated with the web community .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, the motivation behind the project stem's from Dan's stay in Russia before his graduate studies.
He realized that their are tons of old posters, pictures, and other soviet propoganda floating around the country's libraries that many people in the western world would like to view, but are unwilling to go to Russia to see.
He wanted to digitize some of these posters (works of art, in his view) in order to circulate them on the web.
He soon became very frustrated with using a flatbed scanner, and stopped.
Zoom ahead a few years later, Instrucatables is having a contest to win an epilog laser cutter, so he decided to build a book scanner out of recycled (read: trash) materials and submits the project, and wins.
He says he's surprised at how well the project has resonated with the web community.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424608</id>
	<title>high quality digital cameras doom textbooks</title>
	<author>Surt</author>
	<datestamp>1260695340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is a market that relies on outrageous reproduction prices just like cd's used to.  They are equally doomed.  I know a LOT of college students who no longer buy books<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... they rent them for free by buying them, shooting them, and returning them.  It may take a couple of hours to do manually without a device like this, but $80 per hour is pretty good wages for a college student.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is a market that relies on outrageous reproduction prices just like cd 's used to .
They are equally doomed .
I know a LOT of college students who no longer buy books ... they rent them for free by buying them , shooting them , and returning them .
It may take a couple of hours to do manually without a device like this , but $ 80 per hour is pretty good wages for a college student .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is a market that relies on outrageous reproduction prices just like cd's used to.
They are equally doomed.
I know a LOT of college students who no longer buy books ... they rent them for free by buying them, shooting them, and returning them.
It may take a couple of hours to do manually without a device like this, but $80 per hour is pretty good wages for a college student.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30428964</id>
	<title>Re:Are there scanners that accept a stack of sheet</title>
	<author>MattskEE</author>
	<datestamp>1260783360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>$1000?  I averaged under $500 per year on textbooks in college (graduated 1.5 years ago).  It will vary based on the school you attend, the books your professors assign, and what effort you put into finding used copies or buying old editions and getting updated problem sets from the library copies or from classmates.   Of course it also depends on the major you're in, I'm an engineer and I think the price gouging isn't quite as severe in this field.</p><p>But $1000 per semester... geez... that's just not okay.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>$ 1000 ?
I averaged under $ 500 per year on textbooks in college ( graduated 1.5 years ago ) .
It will vary based on the school you attend , the books your professors assign , and what effort you put into finding used copies or buying old editions and getting updated problem sets from the library copies or from classmates .
Of course it also depends on the major you 're in , I 'm an engineer and I think the price gouging is n't quite as severe in this field.But $ 1000 per semester... geez... that 's just not okay .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>$1000?
I averaged under $500 per year on textbooks in college (graduated 1.5 years ago).
It will vary based on the school you attend, the books your professors assign, and what effort you put into finding used copies or buying old editions and getting updated problem sets from the library copies or from classmates.
Of course it also depends on the major you're in, I'm an engineer and I think the price gouging isn't quite as severe in this field.But $1000 per semester... geez... that's just not okay.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424430</id>
	<title>Inevitable DMCA smackdown coming?</title>
	<author>i\_want\_you\_to\_throw\_</author>
	<datestamp>1260737040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>How soon before the manufacturer of the $20,000 commercial version files a lawsuit against him? That would be extraordinarily sad because the American system of patent/copyright only serves to stifle independent innovation like this.</htmltext>
<tokenext>How soon before the manufacturer of the $ 20,000 commercial version files a lawsuit against him ?
That would be extraordinarily sad because the American system of patent/copyright only serves to stifle independent innovation like this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How soon before the manufacturer of the $20,000 commercial version files a lawsuit against him?
That would be extraordinarily sad because the American system of patent/copyright only serves to stifle independent innovation like this.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30427806</id>
	<title>Re:high quality digital cameras doom textbooks</title>
	<author>dontmakemethink</author>
	<datestamp>1260723540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And a new department of the MAFIAA is born... coming soon to a courtroom near you!</htmltext>
<tokenext>And a new department of the MAFIAA is born... coming soon to a courtroom near you !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And a new department of the MAFIAA is born... coming soon to a courtroom near you!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30425282</id>
	<title>Re:He's just pretending</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260700260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He may be scanning books to pirate them. However, I am a college student as well but trying to save money by pirating the books is not my objective.</p><p>I am in my 40's and my eyesight is not what it used to be. Here is why I would buy the books and scan them.</p><p>1. To be legal and comply with the law.  I may very well by the books used, to get them as cheaply as possible. But I will buy them.<br>2. It is much lighter for me to carry one laptop around on campus, perhaps with copies of all the books I have used for all terms up to the current term.<br>3. I can zoom the pages to a comfortable size to read the text.<br>4. I now have the ability to search through the text.<br>5. I can use a text-to-speech reader to listen to the book, I can even make an mp3 of the book if I so desired.</p><p>To me it sounds like a bargain</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He may be scanning books to pirate them .
However , I am a college student as well but trying to save money by pirating the books is not my objective.I am in my 40 's and my eyesight is not what it used to be .
Here is why I would buy the books and scan them.1 .
To be legal and comply with the law .
I may very well by the books used , to get them as cheaply as possible .
But I will buy them.2 .
It is much lighter for me to carry one laptop around on campus , perhaps with copies of all the books I have used for all terms up to the current term.3 .
I can zoom the pages to a comfortable size to read the text.4 .
I now have the ability to search through the text.5 .
I can use a text-to-speech reader to listen to the book , I can even make an mp3 of the book if I so desired.To me it sounds like a bargain</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He may be scanning books to pirate them.
However, I am a college student as well but trying to save money by pirating the books is not my objective.I am in my 40's and my eyesight is not what it used to be.
Here is why I would buy the books and scan them.1.
To be legal and comply with the law.
I may very well by the books used, to get them as cheaply as possible.
But I will buy them.2.
It is much lighter for me to carry one laptop around on campus, perhaps with copies of all the books I have used for all terms up to the current term.3.
I can zoom the pages to a comfortable size to read the text.4.
I now have the ability to search through the text.5.
I can use a text-to-speech reader to listen to the book, I can even make an mp3 of the book if I so desired.To me it sounds like a bargain</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424532</id>
	<title>Other stuff from this guy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260737940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Reetz also writes really awesome electronic music as <a href="http://www.fakeproject.com/you\_are\_not\_dead/" title="fakeproject.com" rel="nofollow">Fake</a> [fakeproject.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Reetz also writes really awesome electronic music as Fake [ fakeproject.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Reetz also writes really awesome electronic music as Fake [fakeproject.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30427754</id>
	<title>Re:Heh</title>
	<author>cdrguru</author>
	<datestamp>1260722940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You might want to read the front matter of just about every book published to see that they specifically address feeding the book into a computer in any way possible and say it is a violation of the copyright if done without permission.</p><p>Of course, nobody gives a rat's ass about copyright any longer.  So torrenting the books from somewhere like Romainia should be just fine.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You might want to read the front matter of just about every book published to see that they specifically address feeding the book into a computer in any way possible and say it is a violation of the copyright if done without permission.Of course , nobody gives a rat 's ass about copyright any longer .
So torrenting the books from somewhere like Romainia should be just fine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You might want to read the front matter of just about every book published to see that they specifically address feeding the book into a computer in any way possible and say it is a violation of the copyright if done without permission.Of course, nobody gives a rat's ass about copyright any longer.
So torrenting the books from somewhere like Romainia should be just fine.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424672</id>
	<title>better wy</title>
	<author>cinnamon colbert</author>
	<datestamp>1260695820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>from the comments with the article<br>posted by: irrational | 12/11/09 | 11:56 pm</p><p>I do it in 5 steps, and you get rid of the book when you&rsquo;re done since you don&rsquo;t need to store it. After you get done putting 200 hours into your creation, you&rsquo;ll have spent thousands of dollars worth of your time. I solved this problem much more quickly years ago:</p><p>1. Buy a good sheet-fed and high-speed scanner. I have a Panasonic KV-S2026 color.<br>2. Get a decent jigsaw from Home Depot. Use metal cutting blades (24 teeth/inch or better)<br>3. Saw the spines off the book and for God&rsquo;s sake use some C-clamps on each end of the book. Preferably sandwich them between two flat boards.<br>4. Remove and feed sheets through the scanner to OmniPage and text recognize the pages.<br>5. Save as PDF.<br>6. Repeat. You now have searchable digital books!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>from the comments with the articleposted by : irrational | 12/11/09 | 11 : 56 pmI do it in 5 steps , and you get rid of the book when you    re done since you don    t need to store it .
After you get done putting 200 hours into your creation , you    ll have spent thousands of dollars worth of your time .
I solved this problem much more quickly years ago : 1 .
Buy a good sheet-fed and high-speed scanner .
I have a Panasonic KV-S2026 color.2 .
Get a decent jigsaw from Home Depot .
Use metal cutting blades ( 24 teeth/inch or better ) 3 .
Saw the spines off the book and for God    s sake use some C-clamps on each end of the book .
Preferably sandwich them between two flat boards.4 .
Remove and feed sheets through the scanner to OmniPage and text recognize the pages.5 .
Save as PDF.6 .
Repeat. You now have searchable digital books !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>from the comments with the articleposted by: irrational | 12/11/09 | 11:56 pmI do it in 5 steps, and you get rid of the book when you’re done since you don’t need to store it.
After you get done putting 200 hours into your creation, you’ll have spent thousands of dollars worth of your time.
I solved this problem much more quickly years ago:1.
Buy a good sheet-fed and high-speed scanner.
I have a Panasonic KV-S2026 color.2.
Get a decent jigsaw from Home Depot.
Use metal cutting blades (24 teeth/inch or better)3.
Saw the spines off the book and for God’s sake use some C-clamps on each end of the book.
Preferably sandwich them between two flat boards.4.
Remove and feed sheets through the scanner to OmniPage and text recognize the pages.5.
Save as PDF.6.
Repeat. You now have searchable digital books!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424390</id>
	<title>A bargain</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260736740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Except for the lack of an automatic page-turner, Daniel's device is the same as one you can buy commercially for about $20,000 (http://www.treventus.com/bookscanner\_pageturner.html). </p><p>He was wise to decide on manual page-turning.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Except for the lack of an automatic page-turner , Daniel 's device is the same as one you can buy commercially for about $ 20,000 ( http : //www.treventus.com/bookscanner \ _pageturner.html ) .
He was wise to decide on manual page-turning .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Except for the lack of an automatic page-turner, Daniel's device is the same as one you can buy commercially for about $20,000 (http://www.treventus.com/bookscanner\_pageturner.html).
He was wise to decide on manual page-turning.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30431454</id>
	<title>I've seen this before</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260808500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is just like an old fashioned microfilm camera.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is just like an old fashioned microfilm camera .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is just like an old fashioned microfilm camera.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424774</id>
	<title>Re:Heh</title>
	<author>atarkri</author>
	<datestamp>1260696840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>The school is NDSU. Yes we (he) looked. No our library does not have one.
<br> <br>
He has details of the reasons on his blog <a href="http://www.danreetz.com/blog" title="danreetz.com" rel="nofollow">danreetz.com/blog</a> [danreetz.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>The school is NDSU .
Yes we ( he ) looked .
No our library does not have one .
He has details of the reasons on his blog danreetz.com/blog [ danreetz.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The school is NDSU.
Yes we (he) looked.
No our library does not have one.
He has details of the reasons on his blog danreetz.com/blog [danreetz.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30427928</id>
	<title>Plenty of links, but what about page turning?</title>
	<author>hacker</author>
	<datestamp>1260724860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There's plenty of people working on this at the <a href="http://www.diybookscanner.org/" title="diybookscanner.org">DIY Book Scanning site</a> [diybookscanner.org], but what they all lack... is page turning. I found <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dC37ZY8Qljg" title="youtube.com">this great project</a> [youtube.com] some students came up with that is simplistic and doesn't require you to preload pages at all.

</p><p>Incorporate that, with the glass/plexi platen of the stock DIY book scanning projects, and you have a 100\% complete, automatic, turn-it-on-and-walk-away book scanner from beginning to end.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's plenty of people working on this at the DIY Book Scanning site [ diybookscanner.org ] , but what they all lack... is page turning .
I found this great project [ youtube.com ] some students came up with that is simplistic and does n't require you to preload pages at all .
Incorporate that , with the glass/plexi platen of the stock DIY book scanning projects , and you have a 100 \ % complete , automatic , turn-it-on-and-walk-away book scanner from beginning to end .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's plenty of people working on this at the DIY Book Scanning site [diybookscanner.org], but what they all lack... is page turning.
I found this great project [youtube.com] some students came up with that is simplistic and doesn't require you to preload pages at all.
Incorporate that, with the glass/plexi platen of the stock DIY book scanning projects, and you have a 100\% complete, automatic, turn-it-on-and-walk-away book scanner from beginning to end.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30427642</id>
	<title>Re:</title>
	<author>clint999</author>
	<datestamp>1260721800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><b>Or, what will really happen is that the government will make devices capable of creating images of pages illegal, with an over-the-top prison sentence for those who use them.</b></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or , what will really happen is that the government will make devices capable of creating images of pages illegal , with an over-the-top prison sentence for those who use them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or, what will really happen is that the government will make devices capable of creating images of pages illegal, with an over-the-top prison sentence for those who use them.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424498</id>
	<title>I've</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260737580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What a coincidece! I too have a book scanner that scans books, and requires a human operator to attend to turning the pages.</p><p>It's called a scanner.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What a coincidece !
I too have a book scanner that scans books , and requires a human operator to attend to turning the pages.It 's called a scanner .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What a coincidece!
I too have a book scanner that scans books, and requires a human operator to attend to turning the pages.It's called a scanner.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424606</id>
	<title>Massively Meh.</title>
	<author>SoupIsGood Food</author>
	<datestamp>1260695340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Go to ebay, and pick up a copy stand for $80, or re-purpose a yardsale enlarger with a couple'a goose-neck lamps for fifteen bux or so. This strikes me as being a waste of time and effort - if your hobby is to tinker in the garage making stuff, either put more pride into your craft to make something worth showing off, or spend your time working on something you can't pick up on craigslist for next to free.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Go to ebay , and pick up a copy stand for $ 80 , or re-purpose a yardsale enlarger with a couple'a goose-neck lamps for fifteen bux or so .
This strikes me as being a waste of time and effort - if your hobby is to tinker in the garage making stuff , either put more pride into your craft to make something worth showing off , or spend your time working on something you ca n't pick up on craigslist for next to free .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Go to ebay, and pick up a copy stand for $80, or re-purpose a yardsale enlarger with a couple'a goose-neck lamps for fifteen bux or so.
This strikes me as being a waste of time and effort - if your hobby is to tinker in the garage making stuff, either put more pride into your craft to make something worth showing off, or spend your time working on something you can't pick up on craigslist for next to free.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424550</id>
	<title>Re:I've</title>
	<author>Patik</author>
	<datestamp>1260694800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Let us know how long it takes you to scan a 400-page book using that method. I bet it's a <em>tad</em> over 20 minutes.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Let us know how long it takes you to scan a 400-page book using that method .
I bet it 's a tad over 20 minutes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let us know how long it takes you to scan a 400-page book using that method.
I bet it's a tad over 20 minutes.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424498</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30425412</id>
	<title>mo3M up</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260701220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><A HREF="http://goat.cx/" title="goat.cx" rel="nofollow">is EFNet, and 7ou</a> [goat.cx]</htmltext>
<tokenext>is EFNet , and 7ou [ goat.cx ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>is EFNet, and 7ou [goat.cx]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_1747201.30424730</id>
	<title>Re:Are there scanners that accept a stack of sheet</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260696540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One semester's worth of books in college today runs around $1000.  With this device you can return the books after you've scanned them.  If you rip out the binding, most bookstores are going to frown on returns.</p><p>So this device saves about $700 the first semester, and $1000/semester after that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One semester 's worth of books in college today runs around $ 1000 .
With this device you can return the books after you 've scanned them .
If you rip out the binding , most bookstores are going to frown on returns.So this device saves about $ 700 the first semester , and $ 1000/semester after that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One semester's worth of books in college today runs around $1000.
With this device you can return the books after you've scanned them.
If you rip out the binding, most bookstores are going to frown on returns.So this device saves about $700 the first semester, and $1000/semester after that.</sentencetext>
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