<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_12_13_0017246</id>
	<title>Mediterranean Might Have Filled In Months</title>
	<author>kdawson</author>
	<datestamp>1260699360000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>An anonymous reader writes <i>"A new model suggests that the Mediterranean Sea was <a href="http://sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/50596/title/The\_big\_spill\_Flood\_could\_have\_filled\_Mediterranean\_in\_less\_than\_two\_years">filled in a gigantic flood some 5.3 million years ago</a>. According to Daniel Garcia-Castellanos' paper in <em>Nature</em>, the sill at the Straight of Gibraltar gave way rather suddenly, with 40 cm of rock eroding and the water level rising by 10 m per day at its peak. They imagine a shallow, fast-moving stream of water (around 100 km/hr) several kilometers wide pouring into the basin with a flow greater than a thousand Amazon rivers &mdash; that's about 100,000,000 cubic meters per second."</i> The flood would have dropped worldwide sea levels by 9.5 meters, probably triggering climate changes. In this model the Mediterranean filled in anywhere from a few months to two years at the outside.</htmltext>
<tokenext>An anonymous reader writes " A new model suggests that the Mediterranean Sea was filled in a gigantic flood some 5.3 million years ago .
According to Daniel Garcia-Castellanos ' paper in Nature , the sill at the Straight of Gibraltar gave way rather suddenly , with 40 cm of rock eroding and the water level rising by 10 m per day at its peak .
They imagine a shallow , fast-moving stream of water ( around 100 km/hr ) several kilometers wide pouring into the basin with a flow greater than a thousand Amazon rivers    that 's about 100,000,000 cubic meters per second .
" The flood would have dropped worldwide sea levels by 9.5 meters , probably triggering climate changes .
In this model the Mediterranean filled in anywhere from a few months to two years at the outside .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An anonymous reader writes "A new model suggests that the Mediterranean Sea was filled in a gigantic flood some 5.3 million years ago.
According to Daniel Garcia-Castellanos' paper in Nature, the sill at the Straight of Gibraltar gave way rather suddenly, with 40 cm of rock eroding and the water level rising by 10 m per day at its peak.
They imagine a shallow, fast-moving stream of water (around 100 km/hr) several kilometers wide pouring into the basin with a flow greater than a thousand Amazon rivers — that's about 100,000,000 cubic meters per second.
" The flood would have dropped worldwide sea levels by 9.5 meters, probably triggering climate changes.
In this model the Mediterranean filled in anywhere from a few months to two years at the outside.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30423400</id>
	<title>Re:Climate change!!??</title>
	<author>Sulphur</author>
	<datestamp>1260727680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>OMG, something MUST be done to revert the planet to it's pre-Mediterranean-Sea-filling pristine state, or you will all rot in Al Gore's climate Purgatory!</p><p>Purgatory no.  Climate Hell.  Millions of degrees.  Must don tin hat to protect planet from giant brain.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>OMG , something MUST be done to revert the planet to it 's pre-Mediterranean-Sea-filling pristine state , or you will all rot in Al Gore 's climate Purgatory ! Purgatory no .
Climate Hell .
Millions of degrees .
Must don tin hat to protect planet from giant brain .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OMG, something MUST be done to revert the planet to it's pre-Mediterranean-Sea-filling pristine state, or you will all rot in Al Gore's climate Purgatory!Purgatory no.
Climate Hell.
Millions of degrees.
Must don tin hat to protect planet from giant brain.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30423446</id>
	<title>2 aspects to consider</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260728220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You really have to consider:<br>1- History, biblical history, legends, or anything that's so ancient is to be made use of, because we don't have a lot of resources about those very ancient times, so we have to make use of any piece of information about that era. Information there should be treated in a special way because of the massive errors in dating, mistranslations, metaphors -the ancient guys really were crazy with those metaphors-,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... In brief we can't dismiss that information, but we can't take it for granted, we have to analyze it very carefully to come up with any truth that's there.</p><p>2- Archeology: Interesting studies have been made in that field, some fancy theories have been developed there, but I believe that very interesting analysis of findings worldwide can help in giving a good understanding of the geography of the ancient world in many stages. Findings offshore in some places like greece, Alexandria/Egypt, a few centuries ago maps found with slight geographical changes,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... Some archeologists suggests that this was the right geography at this point of time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You really have to consider : 1- History , biblical history , legends , or anything that 's so ancient is to be made use of , because we do n't have a lot of resources about those very ancient times , so we have to make use of any piece of information about that era .
Information there should be treated in a special way because of the massive errors in dating , mistranslations , metaphors -the ancient guys really were crazy with those metaphors- , ... In brief we ca n't dismiss that information , but we ca n't take it for granted , we have to analyze it very carefully to come up with any truth that 's there.2- Archeology : Interesting studies have been made in that field , some fancy theories have been developed there , but I believe that very interesting analysis of findings worldwide can help in giving a good understanding of the geography of the ancient world in many stages .
Findings offshore in some places like greece , Alexandria/Egypt , a few centuries ago maps found with slight geographical changes , ... Some archeologists suggests that this was the right geography at this point of time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You really have to consider:1- History, biblical history, legends, or anything that's so ancient is to be made use of, because we don't have a lot of resources about those very ancient times, so we have to make use of any piece of information about that era.
Information there should be treated in a special way because of the massive errors in dating, mistranslations, metaphors -the ancient guys really were crazy with those metaphors-, ... In brief we can't dismiss that information, but we can't take it for granted, we have to analyze it very carefully to come up with any truth that's there.2- Archeology: Interesting studies have been made in that field, some fancy theories have been developed there, but I believe that very interesting analysis of findings worldwide can help in giving a good understanding of the geography of the ancient world in many stages.
Findings offshore in some places like greece, Alexandria/Egypt, a few centuries ago maps found with slight geographical changes, ... Some archeologists suggests that this was the right geography at this point of time.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30421724</id>
	<title>Re:5 million?</title>
	<author>ZankerH</author>
	<datestamp>1260705900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>From TFA:<br> <br>

<em>&ldquo;As a hypothesis it makes sense, though it&rsquo;s still in early stages," says Sanjeev Gupta of Imperial College London. "There&rsquo;s lots more to be done to explore this idea. It&rsquo;s quite exciting, and I think it will get people interested in this topic.&rdquo;</em> <br> <br>

They have a hypothesis, it appears to make sense for the time being given the evidence they found. What evidence do you have for your 5 thousand years ago hypothesis, other than a loose interpretation of a two thousand years old work of fiction?<br> <br>

That's how science works.</htmltext>
<tokenext>From TFA :    As a hypothesis it makes sense , though it    s still in early stages , " says Sanjeev Gupta of Imperial College London .
" There    s lots more to be done to explore this idea .
It    s quite exciting , and I think it will get people interested in this topic.    They have a hypothesis , it appears to make sense for the time being given the evidence they found .
What evidence do you have for your 5 thousand years ago hypothesis , other than a loose interpretation of a two thousand years old work of fiction ?
That 's how science works .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From TFA: 

“As a hypothesis it makes sense, though it’s still in early stages," says Sanjeev Gupta of Imperial College London.
"There’s lots more to be done to explore this idea.
It’s quite exciting, and I think it will get people interested in this topic.”  

They have a hypothesis, it appears to make sense for the time being given the evidence they found.
What evidence do you have for your 5 thousand years ago hypothesis, other than a loose interpretation of a two thousand years old work of fiction?
That's how science works.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30422074</id>
	<title>Re:Chaos theory</title>
	<author>psnyder</author>
	<datestamp>1260713100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Please correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks like the science is even shakier than that.<br> <br>

The Mediterranean could easily have formed over tens of thousands of years (it says so in the article), but they're puzzled that there's a U-shaped sediment deposit instead of a the V-shape made by slow water erosion.<br> <br>

<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glacier#Glacial\_valleys" title="wikipedia.org">Glacial valleys</a> [wikipedia.org] are also U-shaped.  Glaciers have covered that area many times over the last 5 million years.<br> <br>

Tectonic movement could also smooth out the normal V-shape of slower water erosion.  All patches of earth are constantly rising, sinking, and/or moving horizontally.  The middle of the V rising could explain the U.  The sides of the V sinking or moving away from the center could also explain the U.  Notice <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Topographic30deg\_N30W0.png" title="wikipedia.org">the mountainous areas around Spain and NW Africa</a> [wikipedia.org].  There is <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tectonic\_plates\_boundaries\_detailed-en.svg" title="wikipedia.org">a tectonic plate boundary next it</a> [wikipedia.org].  There's been plenty of movement in that area over the last 5 million years.<br> <br>

Multiple rivers could also have broken into the Mediterranean and eventually carried off the bits of land in between, also explaining a U-shape, but over a longer period of time than the "2-year max" their simulation shows.<br> <br> <br> <br>

Here are 3 less exciting, but (as far as I can tell) plausible explanations.  It could also be a mixture of these and/or other factors we haven't considered.<br> <br>

It looks like they simply chose one hypothesis that sounded impressive and made a computer simulation of it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Please correct me if I 'm wrong , but it looks like the science is even shakier than that .
The Mediterranean could easily have formed over tens of thousands of years ( it says so in the article ) , but they 're puzzled that there 's a U-shaped sediment deposit instead of a the V-shape made by slow water erosion .
Glacial valleys [ wikipedia.org ] are also U-shaped .
Glaciers have covered that area many times over the last 5 million years .
Tectonic movement could also smooth out the normal V-shape of slower water erosion .
All patches of earth are constantly rising , sinking , and/or moving horizontally .
The middle of the V rising could explain the U. The sides of the V sinking or moving away from the center could also explain the U. Notice the mountainous areas around Spain and NW Africa [ wikipedia.org ] .
There is a tectonic plate boundary next it [ wikipedia.org ] .
There 's been plenty of movement in that area over the last 5 million years .
Multiple rivers could also have broken into the Mediterranean and eventually carried off the bits of land in between , also explaining a U-shape , but over a longer period of time than the " 2-year max " their simulation shows .
Here are 3 less exciting , but ( as far as I can tell ) plausible explanations .
It could also be a mixture of these and/or other factors we have n't considered .
It looks like they simply chose one hypothesis that sounded impressive and made a computer simulation of it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Please correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks like the science is even shakier than that.
The Mediterranean could easily have formed over tens of thousands of years (it says so in the article), but they're puzzled that there's a U-shaped sediment deposit instead of a the V-shape made by slow water erosion.
Glacial valleys [wikipedia.org] are also U-shaped.
Glaciers have covered that area many times over the last 5 million years.
Tectonic movement could also smooth out the normal V-shape of slower water erosion.
All patches of earth are constantly rising, sinking, and/or moving horizontally.
The middle of the V rising could explain the U.  The sides of the V sinking or moving away from the center could also explain the U.  Notice the mountainous areas around Spain and NW Africa [wikipedia.org].
There is a tectonic plate boundary next it [wikipedia.org].
There's been plenty of movement in that area over the last 5 million years.
Multiple rivers could also have broken into the Mediterranean and eventually carried off the bits of land in between, also explaining a U-shape, but over a longer period of time than the "2-year max" their simulation shows.
Here are 3 less exciting, but (as far as I can tell) plausible explanations.
It could also be a mixture of these and/or other factors we haven't considered.
It looks like they simply chose one hypothesis that sounded impressive and made a computer simulation of it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30422786</id>
	<title>Cowabunga d00d!!!</title>
	<author>Old Sparky</author>
	<datestamp>1260721800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or, in the immortal words of Billy Gibbons; "Surf's Up!!!"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or , in the immortal words of Billy Gibbons ; " Surf 's Up ! ! !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or, in the immortal words of Billy Gibbons; "Surf's Up!!!
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30424052</id>
	<title>Atlantis ?</title>
	<author>wimg</author>
	<datestamp>1260733680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So was Atlantis originally located in the Mediterranean Basin ?<br>Or did I watch too much Stargate ?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So was Atlantis originally located in the Mediterranean Basin ? Or did I watch too much Stargate ?
; - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So was Atlantis originally located in the Mediterranean Basin ?Or did I watch too much Stargate ?
;-)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30424722</id>
	<title>Re:No news</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260696420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I was thinking the same thing! Wonderful series, that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I was thinking the same thing !
Wonderful series , that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was thinking the same thing!
Wonderful series, that.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30423132</id>
	<title>Re:Geo-engineering</title>
	<author>greg\_barton</author>
	<datestamp>1260725280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Step 1: Set off a bunch of Nukes in a desert somewhere, excavating giant holes in the ground.</p></div></blockquote><p>All of that earth has got to go somewhere.  Where?  Nukes-&gt;explosions-&gt;vaporized dirt-&gt;clouds of dirt-&gt;nuclear winter.</p><p>No, it's not a good thing.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Step 1 : Set off a bunch of Nukes in a desert somewhere , excavating giant holes in the ground.All of that earth has got to go somewhere .
Where ? Nukes- &gt; explosions- &gt; vaporized dirt- &gt; clouds of dirt- &gt; nuclear winter.No , it 's not a good thing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Step 1: Set off a bunch of Nukes in a desert somewhere, excavating giant holes in the ground.All of that earth has got to go somewhere.
Where?  Nukes-&gt;explosions-&gt;vaporized dirt-&gt;clouds of dirt-&gt;nuclear winter.No, it's not a good thing.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30423954</id>
	<title>Re:5 million?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260732840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, but that wont stop the young earth creationists from jizzing all over the findings. They'll ignore the date and seize on the findings - apparently, Jeebus wants you to have your own set of facts.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , but that wont stop the young earth creationists from jizzing all over the findings .
They 'll ignore the date and seize on the findings - apparently , Jeebus wants you to have your own set of facts .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, but that wont stop the young earth creationists from jizzing all over the findings.
They'll ignore the date and seize on the findings - apparently, Jeebus wants you to have your own set of facts.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30423430</id>
	<title>Re:Yet another great /. science discussion kicks o</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260727980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Do us all a favor and go kill yourself.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do us all a favor and go kill yourself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do us all a favor and go kill yourself.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30421746</id>
	<title>Re:Yet another great /. science discussion kicks o</title>
	<author>ravenspear</author>
	<datestamp>1260706320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Dude get a sense of humor. I'm not a creationist.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Dude get a sense of humor .
I 'm not a creationist .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dude get a sense of humor.
I'm not a creationist.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30422630</id>
	<title>Panama Canal</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260720420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So what would happen if the Panama Canal were simply opened up?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So what would happen if the Panama Canal were simply opened up ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So what would happen if the Panama Canal were simply opened up?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30425138</id>
	<title>Offset global warming for how long?</title>
	<author>Darkman, Walkin Dude</author>
	<datestamp>1260699360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Alright, lets do some back of the envelope calculations here:<br> <br>

The Eyre basin is some 171000 cubic kilometers, assuming an average of 15 below sea level.<br> <br>

The entire ocean has some 1347000000 cubi kilometers.<br> <br>

This makes the Eyre Basin approximately 0.000126948775 of the entire oceans in the world, and since the average depth of the ocean is about 3,796 meters, that comes to a roughly 48cm drop, which according to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Current\_sea\_level\_rise" title="wikipedia.org">wikipedia</a> [wikipedia.org] should offset the effects of global warming for a century or so.<br> <br>

<i>Current sea level rise has occurred at a mean rate of 1.8 mm per year for the past century,[1][2] and more recently at rates estimated near 2.8 &#177; 0.4[3] to 3.1 &#177; 0.7[4] mm per year (1993-2003). Current sea level rise is due significantly to global warming,[5] which will increase sea level over the coming century and longer periods.[6][7] Increasing temperatures result in sea level rise by the thermal expansion of water and through the addition of water to the oceans from the melting of continental ice sheets. Thermal expansion, which is well-quantified, is currently the primary contributor to sea level rise and is expected to be the primary contributor over the course of the next century. Glacial contributions to sea-level rise are less important,[8] and are more difficult to predict and quantify.[8] Values for predicted sea level rise over the course of the next century typically range from 90 to 880 mm, <b>with a central value of 480 mm</b>.
</i> <br> <br>
Haha, that was way too much fun.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Alright , lets do some back of the envelope calculations here : The Eyre basin is some 171000 cubic kilometers , assuming an average of 15 below sea level .
The entire ocean has some 1347000000 cubi kilometers .
This makes the Eyre Basin approximately 0.000126948775 of the entire oceans in the world , and since the average depth of the ocean is about 3,796 meters , that comes to a roughly 48cm drop , which according to wikipedia [ wikipedia.org ] should offset the effects of global warming for a century or so .
Current sea level rise has occurred at a mean rate of 1.8 mm per year for the past century , [ 1 ] [ 2 ] and more recently at rates estimated near 2.8   0.4 [ 3 ] to 3.1   0.7 [ 4 ] mm per year ( 1993-2003 ) .
Current sea level rise is due significantly to global warming , [ 5 ] which will increase sea level over the coming century and longer periods .
[ 6 ] [ 7 ] Increasing temperatures result in sea level rise by the thermal expansion of water and through the addition of water to the oceans from the melting of continental ice sheets .
Thermal expansion , which is well-quantified , is currently the primary contributor to sea level rise and is expected to be the primary contributor over the course of the next century .
Glacial contributions to sea-level rise are less important , [ 8 ] and are more difficult to predict and quantify .
[ 8 ] Values for predicted sea level rise over the course of the next century typically range from 90 to 880 mm , with a central value of 480 mm .
Haha , that was way too much fun .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Alright, lets do some back of the envelope calculations here: 

The Eyre basin is some 171000 cubic kilometers, assuming an average of 15 below sea level.
The entire ocean has some 1347000000 cubi kilometers.
This makes the Eyre Basin approximately 0.000126948775 of the entire oceans in the world, and since the average depth of the ocean is about 3,796 meters, that comes to a roughly 48cm drop, which according to wikipedia [wikipedia.org] should offset the effects of global warming for a century or so.
Current sea level rise has occurred at a mean rate of 1.8 mm per year for the past century,[1][2] and more recently at rates estimated near 2.8 ± 0.4[3] to 3.1 ± 0.7[4] mm per year (1993-2003).
Current sea level rise is due significantly to global warming,[5] which will increase sea level over the coming century and longer periods.
[6][7] Increasing temperatures result in sea level rise by the thermal expansion of water and through the addition of water to the oceans from the melting of continental ice sheets.
Thermal expansion, which is well-quantified, is currently the primary contributor to sea level rise and is expected to be the primary contributor over the course of the next century.
Glacial contributions to sea-level rise are less important,[8] and are more difficult to predict and quantify.
[8] Values for predicted sea level rise over the course of the next century typically range from 90 to 880 mm, with a central value of 480 mm.
Haha, that was way too much fun.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30421544</id>
	<title>Roland Emmerich</title>
	<author>assemblerex</author>
	<datestamp>1260702960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>just had an orgasm.</htmltext>
<tokenext>just had an orgasm .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>just had an orgasm.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30421858</id>
	<title>Re:Roland Emmerich</title>
	<author>Opportunist</author>
	<datestamp>1260708540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And that filled the Mediterrean? Might explain the water quality...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And that filled the Mediterrean ?
Might explain the water quality.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And that filled the Mediterrean?
Might explain the water quality...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30424682</id>
	<title>Re:Geo-engineering</title>
	<author>ShakaUVM</author>
	<datestamp>1260696000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;&gt;Step 1: Set off a bunch of Nukes in a desert somewhere, excavating giant holes in the ground.</p><p>The feds have already done some preliminary work on this. They had plans to set off four nukes to build a new harbor in Alaska.</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation\_Plowshare" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation\_Plowshare</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; &gt; Step 1 : Set off a bunch of Nukes in a desert somewhere , excavating giant holes in the ground.The feds have already done some preliminary work on this .
They had plans to set off four nukes to build a new harbor in Alaska.http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation \ _Plowshare [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;&gt;Step 1: Set off a bunch of Nukes in a desert somewhere, excavating giant holes in the ground.The feds have already done some preliminary work on this.
They had plans to set off four nukes to build a new harbor in Alaska.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation\_Plowshare [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30421736</id>
	<title>Imagine the Netherlands...</title>
	<author>MavEtJu</author>
	<datestamp>1260706140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Normally I consider news like this "well nice to know, but it doesn't really affect me".<br>This case is different, living in a country which is already mostly under sealevel, these 9.5 meters would have made a huge difference.</p><p>For example see the map at <a href="http://www.rivm.nl/vtv/object\_map/o1213n39037.html" title="www.rivm.nl">http://www.rivm.nl/vtv/object\_map/o1213n39037.html</a> [www.rivm.nl]. If it hadn't happened, we would now have had the island "De Veluwe"<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Normally I consider news like this " well nice to know , but it does n't really affect me " .This case is different , living in a country which is already mostly under sealevel , these 9.5 meters would have made a huge difference.For example see the map at http : //www.rivm.nl/vtv/object \ _map/o1213n39037.html [ www.rivm.nl ] .
If it had n't happened , we would now have had the island " De Veluwe " : - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Normally I consider news like this "well nice to know, but it doesn't really affect me".This case is different, living in a country which is already mostly under sealevel, these 9.5 meters would have made a huge difference.For example see the map at http://www.rivm.nl/vtv/object\_map/o1213n39037.html [www.rivm.nl].
If it hadn't happened, we would now have had the island "De Veluwe" :-)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30422912</id>
	<title>Re:Geo-engineering</title>
	<author>bmxeroh</author>
	<datestamp>1260722820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>^ was modded as funny, but definitely should have been interesting. The water level of the dead sea has dropped considerably in recent years, mostly because the Jordan river is the only source of replenishment, and that has been reduced to a trickle from industrialization. In fact, the country of Jordan is building a pipeline of some sort to transport water from the red sea, desalinate some of it for drinking water, and then send the brine refuse to the dead sea to replenish it. Maybe not the most efficient or best way to do it, but they basically got sick of the rest of the international community doing nothing but talking about it, so they said screw it, they will do it themselves.</htmltext>
<tokenext>^ was modded as funny , but definitely should have been interesting .
The water level of the dead sea has dropped considerably in recent years , mostly because the Jordan river is the only source of replenishment , and that has been reduced to a trickle from industrialization .
In fact , the country of Jordan is building a pipeline of some sort to transport water from the red sea , desalinate some of it for drinking water , and then send the brine refuse to the dead sea to replenish it .
Maybe not the most efficient or best way to do it , but they basically got sick of the rest of the international community doing nothing but talking about it , so they said screw it , they will do it themselves .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>^ was modded as funny, but definitely should have been interesting.
The water level of the dead sea has dropped considerably in recent years, mostly because the Jordan river is the only source of replenishment, and that has been reduced to a trickle from industrialization.
In fact, the country of Jordan is building a pipeline of some sort to transport water from the red sea, desalinate some of it for drinking water, and then send the brine refuse to the dead sea to replenish it.
Maybe not the most efficient or best way to do it, but they basically got sick of the rest of the international community doing nothing but talking about it, so they said screw it, they will do it themselves.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30424074</id>
	<title>Re:Geo-engineering</title>
	<author>JWSmythe</author>
	<datestamp>1260733980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; The US Gov't tried that once.  They were considering using nukes for civil purposes, such as mining and highway construction.  Like, they could remove a pesky mountain to put a road in.  Hey, it worked with dynamite, it'd be faster with a nuke, right?</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; Do a little research on "Operation Plowshare" aka "Plowshare Program", and the "Sedan Crater"</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; But hey, I'm a big fan of explosions.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)  I'd prefer if we're going to engineer some oceans with them, that I could survive enjoy my new beachfront property.   The Sedan test made a pretty big radioactive mess.  That was pretty bad, just to make a 30 acre hole.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; There's been more interesting work done on activating fault lines with less radioactive results, which may have the anticipated results.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>    The US Gov't tried that once .
They were considering using nukes for civil purposes , such as mining and highway construction .
Like , they could remove a pesky mountain to put a road in .
Hey , it worked with dynamite , it 'd be faster with a nuke , right ?
    Do a little research on " Operation Plowshare " aka " Plowshare Program " , and the " Sedan Crater "     But hey , I 'm a big fan of explosions .
: ) I 'd prefer if we 're going to engineer some oceans with them , that I could survive enjoy my new beachfront property .
The Sedan test made a pretty big radioactive mess .
That was pretty bad , just to make a 30 acre hole .
    There 's been more interesting work done on activating fault lines with less radioactive results , which may have the anticipated results .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
    The US Gov't tried that once.
They were considering using nukes for civil purposes, such as mining and highway construction.
Like, they could remove a pesky mountain to put a road in.
Hey, it worked with dynamite, it'd be faster with a nuke, right?
    Do a little research on "Operation Plowshare" aka "Plowshare Program", and the "Sedan Crater"
    But hey, I'm a big fan of explosions.
:)  I'd prefer if we're going to engineer some oceans with them, that I could survive enjoy my new beachfront property.
The Sedan test made a pretty big radioactive mess.
That was pretty bad, just to make a 30 acre hole.
    There's been more interesting work done on activating fault lines with less radioactive results, which may have the anticipated results.
:)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30422344</id>
	<title>The bible doesn't say...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260717360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That the earth is 5000 years old, or 6000 years old.  In fact, the bible doesn't give a date for any of its events at all.  It's really only certain protestant faiths that have the bible as being completely inerrant and the earth as 6000 years old.  The rest of us Christians are in it for some good food on Dec 25th and maybe to bomb some muzzies when they get out of line.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That the earth is 5000 years old , or 6000 years old .
In fact , the bible does n't give a date for any of its events at all .
It 's really only certain protestant faiths that have the bible as being completely inerrant and the earth as 6000 years old .
The rest of us Christians are in it for some good food on Dec 25th and maybe to bomb some muzzies when they get out of line .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That the earth is 5000 years old, or 6000 years old.
In fact, the bible doesn't give a date for any of its events at all.
It's really only certain protestant faiths that have the bible as being completely inerrant and the earth as 6000 years old.
The rest of us Christians are in it for some good food on Dec 25th and maybe to bomb some muzzies when they get out of line.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30422724</id>
	<title>Re:5 million?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260721200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>There's no real dates in the old testament that can be referenced to modern dates.</p></div><p>

To be nit-picky, this isn't true. There are plenty of Old Testament references to contemporary events. For example, Isaiah 45 refers to the conquest of the Babylonian Empire by Cyrus the Great, which was ca. 540 B.C.. Solomon can maybe be dated from references in non-Biblical king lists. There are other examples. However (and this is what you're really talking about), through Exodus the references to external events are so fuzzy as to be meaningless.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's no real dates in the old testament that can be referenced to modern dates .
To be nit-picky , this is n't true .
There are plenty of Old Testament references to contemporary events .
For example , Isaiah 45 refers to the conquest of the Babylonian Empire by Cyrus the Great , which was ca .
540 B.C.. Solomon can maybe be dated from references in non-Biblical king lists .
There are other examples .
However ( and this is what you 're really talking about ) , through Exodus the references to external events are so fuzzy as to be meaningless .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's no real dates in the old testament that can be referenced to modern dates.
To be nit-picky, this isn't true.
There are plenty of Old Testament references to contemporary events.
For example, Isaiah 45 refers to the conquest of the Babylonian Empire by Cyrus the Great, which was ca.
540 B.C.. Solomon can maybe be dated from references in non-Biblical king lists.
There are other examples.
However (and this is what you're really talking about), through Exodus the references to external events are so fuzzy as to be meaningless.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30428180</id>
	<title>Re:5 million?</title>
	<author>Eclipse-now</author>
	<datestamp>1260727920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Exactly, and not just this but early civilisations and even pre-civilisation villages and camps/outposts all lived around rivers. They had no cities pumping irrigation a great distance to safe highground, so when rivers flooded, it was *bad* for the early hunters and gatherers and first farmers.<br> <br>
Also, we should not forget that even conservative Sydney Anglican theologians are saying that early Genesis is largely a re-write of and theological polemic against the surrounding culture's creation myths.
<br> <br>
 This article by a personal friend of mine, Dr John Dickson, explains the history of a metaphorical and symbolic approach to early Genesis (Chapters 1-11), and interestingly much of the metaphorical approach to Genesis occurs Pre-Darwin. Understanding the literary forms of early Genesis as symbolic polemics is therefore NOT just a nervous knee-jerk reaction of the faithful to unsettling data. It does raise interesting questions and theological discussions, but evolution is not viewed as a threat to biblical Christianity, at least to the average Sydney Anglican.
<a href="http://www.iscast.org/journal/articles/Dickson\_J\_2008-03\_Genesis\_Of\_Everything.pdf" title="iscast.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.iscast.org/journal/articles/Dickson\_J\_2008-03\_Genesis\_Of\_Everything.pdf</a> [iscast.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Exactly , and not just this but early civilisations and even pre-civilisation villages and camps/outposts all lived around rivers .
They had no cities pumping irrigation a great distance to safe highground , so when rivers flooded , it was * bad * for the early hunters and gatherers and first farmers .
Also , we should not forget that even conservative Sydney Anglican theologians are saying that early Genesis is largely a re-write of and theological polemic against the surrounding culture 's creation myths .
This article by a personal friend of mine , Dr John Dickson , explains the history of a metaphorical and symbolic approach to early Genesis ( Chapters 1-11 ) , and interestingly much of the metaphorical approach to Genesis occurs Pre-Darwin .
Understanding the literary forms of early Genesis as symbolic polemics is therefore NOT just a nervous knee-jerk reaction of the faithful to unsettling data .
It does raise interesting questions and theological discussions , but evolution is not viewed as a threat to biblical Christianity , at least to the average Sydney Anglican .
http : //www.iscast.org/journal/articles/Dickson \ _J \ _2008-03 \ _Genesis \ _Of \ _Everything.pdf [ iscast.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Exactly, and not just this but early civilisations and even pre-civilisation villages and camps/outposts all lived around rivers.
They had no cities pumping irrigation a great distance to safe highground, so when rivers flooded, it was *bad* for the early hunters and gatherers and first farmers.
Also, we should not forget that even conservative Sydney Anglican theologians are saying that early Genesis is largely a re-write of and theological polemic against the surrounding culture's creation myths.
This article by a personal friend of mine, Dr John Dickson, explains the history of a metaphorical and symbolic approach to early Genesis (Chapters 1-11), and interestingly much of the metaphorical approach to Genesis occurs Pre-Darwin.
Understanding the literary forms of early Genesis as symbolic polemics is therefore NOT just a nervous knee-jerk reaction of the faithful to unsettling data.
It does raise interesting questions and theological discussions, but evolution is not viewed as a threat to biblical Christianity, at least to the average Sydney Anglican.
http://www.iscast.org/journal/articles/Dickson\_J\_2008-03\_Genesis\_Of\_Everything.pdf [iscast.org]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30424708</id>
	<title>The Last Day of Creation</title>
	<author>knue</author>
	<datestamp>1260696240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It was man who blew it up, who else. Read <i>The Last Day of Creation </i> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The\_Last\_Day\_of\_Creation" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The\_Last\_Day\_of\_Creation</a> [wikipedia.org] for the full story.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It was man who blew it up , who else .
Read The Last Day of Creation http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The \ _Last \ _Day \ _of \ _Creation [ wikipedia.org ] for the full story .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It was man who blew it up, who else.
Read The Last Day of Creation  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The\_Last\_Day\_of\_Creation [wikipedia.org] for the full story.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30423574</id>
	<title>Re:5 million?</title>
	<author>ArsonSmith</author>
	<datestamp>1260729480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>what's wrong with following a made up date based on made up material.  That's like saying that the year 12 B.B.Y. in Star Wars is just made up and should be ignored.  If you're a Star Wars fan it may have significance.  If you are a Bible fan then the 4004BC date is significant.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>what 's wrong with following a made up date based on made up material .
That 's like saying that the year 12 B.B.Y .
in Star Wars is just made up and should be ignored .
If you 're a Star Wars fan it may have significance .
If you are a Bible fan then the 4004BC date is significant .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>what's wrong with following a made up date based on made up material.
That's like saying that the year 12 B.B.Y.
in Star Wars is just made up and should be ignored.
If you're a Star Wars fan it may have significance.
If you are a Bible fan then the 4004BC date is significant.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30433324</id>
	<title>Re:Geo-engineering</title>
	<author>aviwollman</author>
	<datestamp>1260816960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not a new idea the prophets already told us that the dead sea would have fish and be usable. the troublesome part of the middle east isn't there are i assume you haven't visited the beautiful waters and sun wonders of the deadsea.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not a new idea the prophets already told us that the dead sea would have fish and be usable .
the troublesome part of the middle east is n't there are i assume you have n't visited the beautiful waters and sun wonders of the deadsea .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not a new idea the prophets already told us that the dead sea would have fish and be usable.
the troublesome part of the middle east isn't there are i assume you haven't visited the beautiful waters and sun wonders of the deadsea.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30422978</id>
	<title>Re:5 million?</title>
	<author>zach\_the\_lizard</author>
	<datestamp>1260723360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Oh my god! That wiki proves it! I wonder what other words of "wisdom" it has to say.....</htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh my god !
That wiki proves it !
I wonder what other words of " wisdom " it has to say.... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh my god!
That wiki proves it!
I wonder what other words of "wisdom" it has to say.....</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30423408</id>
	<title>Re:Geo-engineering</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1260727800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wow, is the site really gone? Wait, here are the new club rules:<br><a href="http://www.eviloverlord.com/lists/overlord.html" title="eviloverlord.com">http://www.eviloverlord.com/lists/overlord.html</a> [eviloverlord.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow , is the site really gone ?
Wait , here are the new club rules : http : //www.eviloverlord.com/lists/overlord.html [ eviloverlord.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow, is the site really gone?
Wait, here are the new club rules:http://www.eviloverlord.com/lists/overlord.html [eviloverlord.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30427392</id>
	<title>Re:No news</title>
	<author>elistan</author>
	<datestamp>1260718740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Another related series of books worth reading, but seemingly less known than the Pliocene Exile series, is the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gandalara\_Cycle" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Gandalara Cycle</a> [wikipedia.org] by Randall Garret and Vicki Ann Heydron.  It imagines life on the floor of the dry Mediterranean bed, including dealing with the salt, dryness, heat, lack of heavy metals, etc., and dealing with the return of the water.  (At a much slower rate than TFA indicates.)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Another related series of books worth reading , but seemingly less known than the Pliocene Exile series , is the Gandalara Cycle [ wikipedia.org ] by Randall Garret and Vicki Ann Heydron .
It imagines life on the floor of the dry Mediterranean bed , including dealing with the salt , dryness , heat , lack of heavy metals , etc. , and dealing with the return of the water .
( At a much slower rate than TFA indicates .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Another related series of books worth reading, but seemingly less known than the Pliocene Exile series, is the Gandalara Cycle [wikipedia.org] by Randall Garret and Vicki Ann Heydron.
It imagines life on the floor of the dry Mediterranean bed, including dealing with the salt, dryness, heat, lack of heavy metals, etc., and dealing with the return of the water.
(At a much slower rate than TFA indicates.
)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30421604</id>
	<title>Re:5 million?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260703980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes. Quite sure.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes .
Quite sure .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes.
Quite sure.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30421730</id>
	<title>Those poor Atlanteans ...</title>
	<author>gafisher</author>
	<datestamp>1260706080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>... never saw it coming.</htmltext>
<tokenext>... never saw it coming .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... never saw it coming.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30425622</id>
	<title>Re:No news</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260702900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So glad someone posted this!  Just re-read the whole Exile series.  Fun stuff.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So glad someone posted this !
Just re-read the whole Exile series .
Fun stuff .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So glad someone posted this!
Just re-read the whole Exile series.
Fun stuff.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30421678</id>
	<title>Chaos theory</title>
	<author>johncandale</author>
	<datestamp>1260705000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>hm, It's fun to think about, but any single advent 5 million years ago as such as this is sufficiency complex enough to render any proof impossible.   They are basing this speed of months on mountain stream modals.   Even if the Math was prefect, the result is fundamentally flawed.</htmltext>
<tokenext>hm , It 's fun to think about , but any single advent 5 million years ago as such as this is sufficiency complex enough to render any proof impossible .
They are basing this speed of months on mountain stream modals .
Even if the Math was prefect , the result is fundamentally flawed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>hm, It's fun to think about, but any single advent 5 million years ago as such as this is sufficiency complex enough to render any proof impossible.
They are basing this speed of months on mountain stream modals.
Even if the Math was prefect, the result is fundamentally flawed.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30422782</id>
	<title>You understand neither chaos nor computer models</title>
	<author>localroger</author>
	<datestamp>1260721740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Chaos theory only applies to certain kinds of systems, which for well defined reasons might demonstrate sensitive dependence on initial conditions.  Turbulence is chaotic.  However, bulk hydrodynamic flow is not; it can be showed at a large range of scales that simple equations and models map pretty closely to reality.  The low-level turbulence averages out and doesn't affect the final result much.<p>

Computer models of chaotic systems may not reflect the exact performance of what they are modeling, but they can demonstrate the range of possible and likely results.</p><p>

And the model is not just based on mountain streams; it is also based on some much larger and more recent events, such as the creation of the Snake River Gorge (300 meters deep in a matter of weeks) and the flooding of the English Channel.  Water has enormous power to carve up rock, and the conclusion of the study is not in any way extraordinary; it's what anyone who has ever stood at the bottom of the Snake River Gorge would even find rather obvious.</p><p>

The problem is that throughout the colonial era it was widely assumed by learned men that the Earth is a stable place where a comfortable equilibrium reigns.  What we have found in the last 40 years or so is that the Earth is actually an extraordinarily violent and often inhospitable place, and the relative stability of the last few centuries is an exception, not the rule.  If we hang around here long enough we will have to deal with violent changes, and efforts to engineer such a complex and sensitive system might make things worse.  The problem is that we <i>are</i> engineering it by pumping carbon into the atmosphere, and a sensible person might conclude knowing what the system is capable of that kicking it might not be such a good idea.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Chaos theory only applies to certain kinds of systems , which for well defined reasons might demonstrate sensitive dependence on initial conditions .
Turbulence is chaotic .
However , bulk hydrodynamic flow is not ; it can be showed at a large range of scales that simple equations and models map pretty closely to reality .
The low-level turbulence averages out and does n't affect the final result much .
Computer models of chaotic systems may not reflect the exact performance of what they are modeling , but they can demonstrate the range of possible and likely results .
And the model is not just based on mountain streams ; it is also based on some much larger and more recent events , such as the creation of the Snake River Gorge ( 300 meters deep in a matter of weeks ) and the flooding of the English Channel .
Water has enormous power to carve up rock , and the conclusion of the study is not in any way extraordinary ; it 's what anyone who has ever stood at the bottom of the Snake River Gorge would even find rather obvious .
The problem is that throughout the colonial era it was widely assumed by learned men that the Earth is a stable place where a comfortable equilibrium reigns .
What we have found in the last 40 years or so is that the Earth is actually an extraordinarily violent and often inhospitable place , and the relative stability of the last few centuries is an exception , not the rule .
If we hang around here long enough we will have to deal with violent changes , and efforts to engineer such a complex and sensitive system might make things worse .
The problem is that we are engineering it by pumping carbon into the atmosphere , and a sensible person might conclude knowing what the system is capable of that kicking it might not be such a good idea .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Chaos theory only applies to certain kinds of systems, which for well defined reasons might demonstrate sensitive dependence on initial conditions.
Turbulence is chaotic.
However, bulk hydrodynamic flow is not; it can be showed at a large range of scales that simple equations and models map pretty closely to reality.
The low-level turbulence averages out and doesn't affect the final result much.
Computer models of chaotic systems may not reflect the exact performance of what they are modeling, but they can demonstrate the range of possible and likely results.
And the model is not just based on mountain streams; it is also based on some much larger and more recent events, such as the creation of the Snake River Gorge (300 meters deep in a matter of weeks) and the flooding of the English Channel.
Water has enormous power to carve up rock, and the conclusion of the study is not in any way extraordinary; it's what anyone who has ever stood at the bottom of the Snake River Gorge would even find rather obvious.
The problem is that throughout the colonial era it was widely assumed by learned men that the Earth is a stable place where a comfortable equilibrium reigns.
What we have found in the last 40 years or so is that the Earth is actually an extraordinarily violent and often inhospitable place, and the relative stability of the last few centuries is an exception, not the rule.
If we hang around here long enough we will have to deal with violent changes, and efforts to engineer such a complex and sensitive system might make things worse.
The problem is that we are engineering it by pumping carbon into the atmosphere, and a sensible person might conclude knowing what the system is capable of that kicking it might not be such a good idea.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30421668</id>
	<title>Video please?</title>
	<author>gmhowell</author>
	<datestamp>1260704880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This story would be much cooler with a video clip.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This story would be much cooler with a video clip .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This story would be much cooler with a video clip.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30424864</id>
	<title>Re:Geo-engineering</title>
	<author>shavedlummox</author>
	<datestamp>1260697320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Quick, some nerd out there can figure out in no time what the grand canyon can hold. Solve the water problems of the mid west. Moisture that evaporates from this new water mass in the hot sun there will bring moisture to the entire region</htmltext>
<tokenext>Quick , some nerd out there can figure out in no time what the grand canyon can hold .
Solve the water problems of the mid west .
Moisture that evaporates from this new water mass in the hot sun there will bring moisture to the entire region</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Quick, some nerd out there can figure out in no time what the grand canyon can hold.
Solve the water problems of the mid west.
Moisture that evaporates from this new water mass in the hot sun there will bring moisture to the entire region</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30434254</id>
	<title>It Was Man-Made!!!!</title>
	<author>FragHARD</author>
	<datestamp>1260821880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I see it all now this event was caused by early cave-men they first invented fire which was then used to warm their caves.... the cave-men and cave women liked the heated caves so much that they moved to bigger caves with more heat!!!! and hence the amount of CO2 was increased leading to 'global cave warming' which in turn lead to massive geological shifts and flooding.!!!!!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I see it all now this event was caused by early cave-men they first invented fire which was then used to warm their caves.... the cave-men and cave women liked the heated caves so much that they moved to bigger caves with more heat ! ! ! !
and hence the amount of CO2 was increased leading to 'global cave warming ' which in turn lead to massive geological shifts and flooding. ! ! ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I see it all now this event was caused by early cave-men they first invented fire which was then used to warm their caves.... the cave-men and cave women liked the heated caves so much that they moved to bigger caves with more heat!!!!
and hence the amount of CO2 was increased leading to 'global cave warming' which in turn lead to massive geological shifts and flooding.!!!!
!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30423626</id>
	<title>Re:Was it really 5 million years ago?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260729900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>The 4.54 billion year age of the Earth is not an assumption.  It is the conclusion reached over the last few hundred years of effort from geologists and scientists in related fields, built upon the naturalists that came before them.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The 4.54 billion year age of the Earth is not an assumption .
It is the conclusion reached over the last few hundred years of effort from geologists and scientists in related fields , built upon the naturalists that came before them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The 4.54 billion year age of the Earth is not an assumption.
It is the conclusion reached over the last few hundred years of effort from geologists and scientists in related fields, built upon the naturalists that came before them.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30422402</id>
	<title>Documentation</title>
	<author>DoofusOfDeath</author>
	<datestamp>1260718080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>They imagine a shallow, fast-moving stream of water (around 100 km/hr)</p></div></blockquote><p>And you just <i>know</i> there are cave drawings somewhere showing jackasses trying to body surf in it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>They imagine a shallow , fast-moving stream of water ( around 100 km/hr ) And you just know there are cave drawings somewhere showing jackasses trying to body surf in it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They imagine a shallow, fast-moving stream of water (around 100 km/hr)And you just know there are cave drawings somewhere showing jackasses trying to body surf in it.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30422108</id>
	<title>Re:Undo It!</title>
	<author>owlstead</author>
	<datestamp>1260714000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Gosh, yes, a few meters added to the current sea levels sounds like brilliant idea. Count me in (a few meters of sea water).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Gosh , yes , a few meters added to the current sea levels sounds like brilliant idea .
Count me in ( a few meters of sea water ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Gosh, yes, a few meters added to the current sea levels sounds like brilliant idea.
Count me in (a few meters of sea water).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30421602</id>
	<title>Re:5 million?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260703920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Are you sure that flood didn't happen 5 thousand years ago?</p></div><p>This man is right. Read all about it right here: http://conservapedia.com/Great\_Flood</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Are you sure that flood did n't happen 5 thousand years ago ? This man is right .
Read all about it right here : http : //conservapedia.com/Great \ _Flood</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are you sure that flood didn't happen 5 thousand years ago?This man is right.
Read all about it right here: http://conservapedia.com/Great\_Flood
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30421648</id>
	<title>Noah and the Pope.</title>
	<author>ScottySniper</author>
	<datestamp>1260704640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And in other news, the Pope says "Noah was real, a huge flood millions of years ago proves it".</htmltext>
<tokenext>And in other news , the Pope says " Noah was real , a huge flood millions of years ago proves it " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And in other news, the Pope says "Noah was real, a huge flood millions of years ago proves it".</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30427584</id>
	<title>Noah's Ark</title>
	<author>lsatenstein</author>
	<datestamp>1260721080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Perhaps this was the basis of the biblical story. Must mean that man was around to tell it to his grandchildren.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Perhaps this was the basis of the biblical story .
Must mean that man was around to tell it to his grandchildren .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perhaps this was the basis of the biblical story.
Must mean that man was around to tell it to his grandchildren.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30422988</id>
	<title>Re:The bible doesn't say...</title>
	<author>MooUK</author>
	<datestamp>1260723480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But you can get the good food and kill people without the effort of being Christian!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But you can get the good food and kill people without the effort of being Christian !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But you can get the good food and kill people without the effort of being Christian!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30421564</id>
	<title>5 million?</title>
	<author>ravenspear</author>
	<datestamp>1260703200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Are you sure that flood didn't happen 5 thousand years ago?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Are you sure that flood did n't happen 5 thousand years ago ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are you sure that flood didn't happen 5 thousand years ago?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30422350</id>
	<title>Terrraform the Eyre Basin - bigger than God</title>
	<author>Colin Smith</author>
	<datestamp>1260717420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Huge salt desert in Australia which used to be an inland sea. It's about 15m below sea level</p><p>Dig 2 canals. boom. you have an inland sea again. Australia stops being a huge desert.</p><p>You'd need 2 canals at opposite ends to pump the salt out.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Huge salt desert in Australia which used to be an inland sea .
It 's about 15m below sea levelDig 2 canals .
boom. you have an inland sea again .
Australia stops being a huge desert.You 'd need 2 canals at opposite ends to pump the salt out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Huge salt desert in Australia which used to be an inland sea.
It's about 15m below sea levelDig 2 canals.
boom. you have an inland sea again.
Australia stops being a huge desert.You'd need 2 canals at opposite ends to pump the salt out.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30444086</id>
	<title>Re:Terrraform the Eyre Basin - bigger than God</title>
	<author>RivenAleem</author>
	<datestamp>1260892440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's quite interesting that there used to be an inland sea there and then suddenly the water just vanished for no reason, damn aliens!</p><p>I'm not geologist, but I suspect there's a good reason why an area 15m below sea level is unable to sustain an inland sea, It might have something to do with it only being 15 meters deep in an area that gets a large amount of sun...</p><p>All you would do by trying to fill it would be to create a large shallow sea that evaporates at a huge pace, forming a lot of clouds and totally upsetting the current eco system in place.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's quite interesting that there used to be an inland sea there and then suddenly the water just vanished for no reason , damn aliens ! I 'm not geologist , but I suspect there 's a good reason why an area 15m below sea level is unable to sustain an inland sea , It might have something to do with it only being 15 meters deep in an area that gets a large amount of sun...All you would do by trying to fill it would be to create a large shallow sea that evaporates at a huge pace , forming a lot of clouds and totally upsetting the current eco system in place .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's quite interesting that there used to be an inland sea there and then suddenly the water just vanished for no reason, damn aliens!I'm not geologist, but I suspect there's a good reason why an area 15m below sea level is unable to sustain an inland sea, It might have something to do with it only being 15 meters deep in an area that gets a large amount of sun...All you would do by trying to fill it would be to create a large shallow sea that evaporates at a huge pace, forming a lot of clouds and totally upsetting the current eco system in place.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30436586</id>
	<title>Re:Ugh... I know where this is going...</title>
	<author>bolthole</author>
	<datestamp>1260790320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Some people would date the story of Utnapishtim as AFTER the estimated date of Noah, which would make the sumarian the "second-hand imitation".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Some people would date the story of Utnapishtim as AFTER the estimated date of Noah , which would make the sumarian the " second-hand imitation " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Some people would date the story of Utnapishtim as AFTER the estimated date of Noah, which would make the sumarian the "second-hand imitation".</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30424232</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30424024</id>
	<title>"Straight" of Gibraltar</title>
	<author>ranson</author>
	<datestamp>1260733500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>According to Daniel Garcia-Castellanos' paper in Nature, the sill at the Straight of Gibraltar gave way rather suddenly, with 40 cm of rock eroding and the water level rising by 10 m per day at its peak.</p></div><p>I'm relieved to know the Strait of Gibraltar is not gay; I was convinced he was hitting on me the other day.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>According to Daniel Garcia-Castellanos ' paper in Nature , the sill at the Straight of Gibraltar gave way rather suddenly , with 40 cm of rock eroding and the water level rising by 10 m per day at its peak.I 'm relieved to know the Strait of Gibraltar is not gay ; I was convinced he was hitting on me the other day .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>According to Daniel Garcia-Castellanos' paper in Nature, the sill at the Straight of Gibraltar gave way rather suddenly, with 40 cm of rock eroding and the water level rising by 10 m per day at its peak.I'm relieved to know the Strait of Gibraltar is not gay; I was convinced he was hitting on me the other day.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30422562</id>
	<title>Re:5 million?</title>
	<author>cntThnkofAname</author>
	<datestamp>1260719640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>oh god, tomorrow you'll see a post on how thousands of Christian Zealots flock to the Mediterranean to continue their search for the ark<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... in other news they will soon find out it is much easier to build some turrets and save up from some Christian Carriers (with the fighter up grade of course).

FOR ADUN!</htmltext>
<tokenext>oh god , tomorrow you 'll see a post on how thousands of Christian Zealots flock to the Mediterranean to continue their search for the ark ... in other news they will soon find out it is much easier to build some turrets and save up from some Christian Carriers ( with the fighter up grade of course ) .
FOR ADUN !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>oh god, tomorrow you'll see a post on how thousands of Christian Zealots flock to the Mediterranean to continue their search for the ark ... in other news they will soon find out it is much easier to build some turrets and save up from some Christian Carriers (with the fighter up grade of course).
FOR ADUN!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30424750</id>
	<title>Re:Geo-engineering</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260696660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How is this insightful?</p><p>Did Not Do The Research</p><p>btw, Africa is essentially a giant plateau. How the fuck are you going to 'fill in' a radioactive hole in the desert? With NEST? Egypt already has the Nile.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How is this insightful ? Did Not Do The Researchbtw , Africa is essentially a giant plateau .
How the fuck are you going to 'fill in ' a radioactive hole in the desert ?
With NEST ?
Egypt already has the Nile .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How is this insightful?Did Not Do The Researchbtw, Africa is essentially a giant plateau.
How the fuck are you going to 'fill in' a radioactive hole in the desert?
With NEST?
Egypt already has the Nile.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30431908</id>
	<title>Re:Offset global warming for how long?</title>
	<author>Eudial</author>
	<datestamp>1260810240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>This makes the Eyre Basin approximately 0.000126948775 of the entire oceans in the world,</p></div><p>You give a precision that's down to 0.001 km^3. How could you possibly have come to such an astounding level of accuracy in your calculations?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This makes the Eyre Basin approximately 0.000126948775 of the entire oceans in the world,You give a precision that 's down to 0.001 km ^ 3 .
How could you possibly have come to such an astounding level of accuracy in your calculations ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This makes the Eyre Basin approximately 0.000126948775 of the entire oceans in the world,You give a precision that's down to 0.001 km^3.
How could you possibly have come to such an astounding level of accuracy in your calculations?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30426758</id>
	<title>Re:5 million?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260713460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Absolutely, Bible-thumper. @TOP: That's "strait," not "straight."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Absolutely , Bible-thumper .
@ TOP : That 's " strait , " not " straight .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Absolutely, Bible-thumper.
@TOP: That's "strait," not "straight.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30421666</id>
	<title>Re:5 million?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260704880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Are you sure that flood didn't happen 5 thousand years ago?</p></div><p>The whole point is there were multiple flood events at different points in history. It's one of the reasons the stories are universal is that most areas had some form of great flood at some point in history. Look at it this way. At the end of the last ice age most of the population of Europe as well as much of the rest of the world would have lived along the coast much as they do now. Most of that land is now under water. The coast flooded through both gradual sea level rise and a series of flood events. When you are dealing with oral histories 2,000 years and 6,000 years can be hard to tell apart. Also the much quoted Biblical age of the Earth was calculated in 1650.</p><p>"In 1650, Archbishop Ussher published the Ussher chronology, a chronology dating the creation to the night preceding October 23 4004 BC."</p><p>There's no real dates in the old testament that can be referenced to modern dates. He came by that date by adding up ages of biblical figures some of whom are claimed to have lived 500 to 900 years. Coming up with an exact month is impressive given the fact few of the births were referenced to the actual age of the parents. Translated it was all guess work based on wild suppositions and had little to do with the Bible itself. Most of the Christian that quote the real age of the Earth have no idea how fabricated the date was. Personally I'll take facts over faith any day of the week.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Are you sure that flood did n't happen 5 thousand years ago ? The whole point is there were multiple flood events at different points in history .
It 's one of the reasons the stories are universal is that most areas had some form of great flood at some point in history .
Look at it this way .
At the end of the last ice age most of the population of Europe as well as much of the rest of the world would have lived along the coast much as they do now .
Most of that land is now under water .
The coast flooded through both gradual sea level rise and a series of flood events .
When you are dealing with oral histories 2,000 years and 6,000 years can be hard to tell apart .
Also the much quoted Biblical age of the Earth was calculated in 1650 .
" In 1650 , Archbishop Ussher published the Ussher chronology , a chronology dating the creation to the night preceding October 23 4004 BC .
" There 's no real dates in the old testament that can be referenced to modern dates .
He came by that date by adding up ages of biblical figures some of whom are claimed to have lived 500 to 900 years .
Coming up with an exact month is impressive given the fact few of the births were referenced to the actual age of the parents .
Translated it was all guess work based on wild suppositions and had little to do with the Bible itself .
Most of the Christian that quote the real age of the Earth have no idea how fabricated the date was .
Personally I 'll take facts over faith any day of the week .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are you sure that flood didn't happen 5 thousand years ago?The whole point is there were multiple flood events at different points in history.
It's one of the reasons the stories are universal is that most areas had some form of great flood at some point in history.
Look at it this way.
At the end of the last ice age most of the population of Europe as well as much of the rest of the world would have lived along the coast much as they do now.
Most of that land is now under water.
The coast flooded through both gradual sea level rise and a series of flood events.
When you are dealing with oral histories 2,000 years and 6,000 years can be hard to tell apart.
Also the much quoted Biblical age of the Earth was calculated in 1650.
"In 1650, Archbishop Ussher published the Ussher chronology, a chronology dating the creation to the night preceding October 23 4004 BC.
"There's no real dates in the old testament that can be referenced to modern dates.
He came by that date by adding up ages of biblical figures some of whom are claimed to have lived 500 to 900 years.
Coming up with an exact month is impressive given the fact few of the births were referenced to the actual age of the parents.
Translated it was all guess work based on wild suppositions and had little to do with the Bible itself.
Most of the Christian that quote the real age of the Earth have no idea how fabricated the date was.
Personally I'll take facts over faith any day of the week.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30421620</id>
	<title>Yet another great /. science discussion kicks off.</title>
	<author>Valdrax</author>
	<datestamp>1260704160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, great.  Thanks for leading off another science article with:<br>- Post #1 - A crass joke.<br>- Post #2 - Trolling creationists.</p><p>There goes all hope anything intelligent being discussed like the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messinian\_salinity\_crisis" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Messianian salinity crisis</a> [wikipedia.org] that the article refers to.  (i.e. Why something as deep as the Mediterranean was dry instead of a lake in the first place.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , great .
Thanks for leading off another science article with : - Post # 1 - A crass joke.- Post # 2 - Trolling creationists.There goes all hope anything intelligent being discussed like the Messianian salinity crisis [ wikipedia.org ] that the article refers to .
( i.e. Why something as deep as the Mediterranean was dry instead of a lake in the first place .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, great.
Thanks for leading off another science article with:- Post #1 - A crass joke.- Post #2 - Trolling creationists.There goes all hope anything intelligent being discussed like the Messianian salinity crisis [wikipedia.org] that the article refers to.
(i.e. Why something as deep as the Mediterranean was dry instead of a lake in the first place.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30422416</id>
	<title>nuke don't dig holes</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260718200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I am pretty sure nuke are mostly heat, with maybe a wave of compression of the heated air. Even if you heat the desert material, it may fly up a bit, and fall down radioactive (or not) around. That would be an extremly inneficient way of digging.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I am pretty sure nuke are mostly heat , with maybe a wave of compression of the heated air .
Even if you heat the desert material , it may fly up a bit , and fall down radioactive ( or not ) around .
That would be an extremly inneficient way of digging .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am pretty sure nuke are mostly heat, with maybe a wave of compression of the heated air.
Even if you heat the desert material, it may fly up a bit, and fall down radioactive (or not) around.
That would be an extremly inneficient way of digging.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30427884</id>
	<title>Re:5 million?</title>
	<author>kklein</author>
	<datestamp>1260724380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Most of the Christian that quote the real age of the Earth have no idea how fabricated the date was.</p></div><p>Most Christians don't know anything about Christianity. They don't read the Bible. They don't know where it came from. They don't know who wrote it. They don't know anything about Judaism, which was the actual religion of Jesus, and what, if they were serious about their religion, is what they should practice. They spout gibberish that would be improved substantially just by going back to the actual text and asking their local rabbis what a lot of it means--and that's really just correcting their gibberish with older gibberish!

</p><p>I'm an atheist, but I was raised evangelical. I want to shake so many Christians, because it is absolutely possible to be Christian and not be a tiresome moron, but it just takes some reading not just parroting what they hear from other ignorant leaders. Even just reading the Bible and learning what it says would improve their behavior (in most cases).</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Most of the Christian that quote the real age of the Earth have no idea how fabricated the date was.Most Christians do n't know anything about Christianity .
They do n't read the Bible .
They do n't know where it came from .
They do n't know who wrote it .
They do n't know anything about Judaism , which was the actual religion of Jesus , and what , if they were serious about their religion , is what they should practice .
They spout gibberish that would be improved substantially just by going back to the actual text and asking their local rabbis what a lot of it means--and that 's really just correcting their gibberish with older gibberish !
I 'm an atheist , but I was raised evangelical .
I want to shake so many Christians , because it is absolutely possible to be Christian and not be a tiresome moron , but it just takes some reading not just parroting what they hear from other ignorant leaders .
Even just reading the Bible and learning what it says would improve their behavior ( in most cases ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most of the Christian that quote the real age of the Earth have no idea how fabricated the date was.Most Christians don't know anything about Christianity.
They don't read the Bible.
They don't know where it came from.
They don't know who wrote it.
They don't know anything about Judaism, which was the actual religion of Jesus, and what, if they were serious about their religion, is what they should practice.
They spout gibberish that would be improved substantially just by going back to the actual text and asking their local rabbis what a lot of it means--and that's really just correcting their gibberish with older gibberish!
I'm an atheist, but I was raised evangelical.
I want to shake so many Christians, because it is absolutely possible to be Christian and not be a tiresome moron, but it just takes some reading not just parroting what they hear from other ignorant leaders.
Even just reading the Bible and learning what it says would improve their behavior (in most cases).
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30422814</id>
	<title>I'm not usually a Grammar Nazi, but...</title>
	<author>hyades1</author>
	<datestamp>1260722040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr>...let's at least get the name of the place right. It's Strait of Gibraltar, not "straight". </p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...let 's at least get the name of the place right .
It 's Strait of Gibraltar , not " straight " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> ...let's at least get the name of the place right.
It's Strait of Gibraltar, not "straight". </sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30422400</id>
	<title>Re:Geo-engineering</title>
	<author>bcmm</author>
	<datestamp>1260718080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>People who've been modding this Insightful instead of Funny:<br> <br>The material has to go somewhere. Specifically, it gets blown to a fine dust, which settles over probably most of the rest of the world. Said dust will be radioactive (there will be far more than just the radioactivity from the remains of the weapon, since much of that soil will have been exposed to extreme neutron flux and transmuted into unstable isotopes).</htmltext>
<tokenext>People who 've been modding this Insightful instead of Funny : The material has to go somewhere .
Specifically , it gets blown to a fine dust , which settles over probably most of the rest of the world .
Said dust will be radioactive ( there will be far more than just the radioactivity from the remains of the weapon , since much of that soil will have been exposed to extreme neutron flux and transmuted into unstable isotopes ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People who've been modding this Insightful instead of Funny: The material has to go somewhere.
Specifically, it gets blown to a fine dust, which settles over probably most of the rest of the world.
Said dust will be radioactive (there will be far more than just the radioactivity from the remains of the weapon, since much of that soil will have been exposed to extreme neutron flux and transmuted into unstable isotopes).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30421624</id>
	<title>Undo It!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260704280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It has been done, it can be undone: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantropa" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantropa</a> [wikipedia.org]<br>Whatever the arguments against it, I suppose it is within reason that it could be done. But should it be done?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It has been done , it can be undone : http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantropa [ wikipedia.org ] Whatever the arguments against it , I suppose it is within reason that it could be done .
But should it be done ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It has been done, it can be undone: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantropa [wikipedia.org]Whatever the arguments against it, I suppose it is within reason that it could be done.
But should it be done?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30421950</id>
	<title>Re:Geo-engineering</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260710160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I am intrigued and invite you to join our Evil Overlords World Domination Club.</p><p>Our plan is evil. Man, it is <em>so</em> evil!<br>It is a bad, bad plan, that will hurt many people that are <em>good</em>!<br>I think it&rsquo;s great, because it&rsquo;s so <em>bad</em>!</p><p>Prerequisites to enter:<br>- An evil lair (preferably under a volcano).<br>- At least 100 minions (get the starter pack today!) or 10 lifeforms with super-powers.<br>- Super-secret secret super-weapon.<br>- Read the <a href="http://www.globalguardians.com/stuff/overlord/eviloverlord.php" title="globalguardians.com">club rules</a> [globalguardians.com].<br>- And most importantly: An evilness of at least 10,000 on the trough-the-roof Schwarzschild scale!</p><p>We also have a <a href="http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&amp;safe=off&amp;client=firefox-a&amp;rls=org.gentoo:en-US:official&amp;um=1&amp;ei=ktokS7z3BIiD\_AaKt7SRCg&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=spell&amp;resnum=0&amp;ct=result&amp;cd=1&amp;q=ming+the+merciless&amp;spell=1&amp;start=0" title="google.com">dress code</a> [google.com]. But as long as you look really evil, you&rsquo;re welcome.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am intrigued and invite you to join our Evil Overlords World Domination Club.Our plan is evil .
Man , it is so evil ! It is a bad , bad plan , that will hurt many people that are good ! I think it    s great , because it    s so bad ! Prerequisites to enter : - An evil lair ( preferably under a volcano ) .- At least 100 minions ( get the starter pack today !
) or 10 lifeforms with super-powers.- Super-secret secret super-weapon.- Read the club rules [ globalguardians.com ] .- And most importantly : An evilness of at least 10,000 on the trough-the-roof Schwarzschild scale ! We also have a dress code [ google.com ] .
But as long as you look really evil , you    re welcome .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am intrigued and invite you to join our Evil Overlords World Domination Club.Our plan is evil.
Man, it is so evil!It is a bad, bad plan, that will hurt many people that are good!I think it’s great, because it’s so bad!Prerequisites to enter:- An evil lair (preferably under a volcano).- At least 100 minions (get the starter pack today!
) or 10 lifeforms with super-powers.- Super-secret secret super-weapon.- Read the club rules [globalguardians.com].- And most importantly: An evilness of at least 10,000 on the trough-the-roof Schwarzschild scale!We also have a dress code [google.com].
But as long as you look really evil, you’re welcome.
:)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30423726</id>
	<title>A thousand Amazon rivers.</title>
	<author>mano.m</author>
	<datestamp>1260730680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>How many Libraries of Congress is that?</htmltext>
<tokenext>How many Libraries of Congress is that ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How many Libraries of Congress is that?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30421704</id>
	<title>Oral history</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260705540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It does make one wonder about the origin of some flood stories, among others... how long can legends live for?</p><p>Perhaps more interestingly, I wonder how many species this event wiped out? Unicorns on the Mediterranean plains perhaps?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It does make one wonder about the origin of some flood stories , among others... how long can legends live for ? Perhaps more interestingly , I wonder how many species this event wiped out ?
Unicorns on the Mediterranean plains perhaps ?
; - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It does make one wonder about the origin of some flood stories, among others... how long can legends live for?Perhaps more interestingly, I wonder how many species this event wiped out?
Unicorns on the Mediterranean plains perhaps?
;-)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30425264</id>
	<title>And its comming back!</title>
	<author>Snaller</author>
	<datestamp>1260700200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Thankfully I'm 14 meters above sea level *g*</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Thankfully I 'm 14 meters above sea level * g *</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thankfully I'm 14 meters above sea level *g*</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30423084</id>
	<title>Re:The bible doesn't say...</title>
	<author>shoemilk</author>
	<datestamp>1260724920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well, at least all denominations have the birth of Christ wrong.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , at least all denominations have the birth of Christ wrong .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, at least all denominations have the birth of Christ wrong.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30421930</id>
	<title>Re:Geo-engineering</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260709740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.dincercam.com/" title="dincercam.com" rel="nofollow">It's good answer</a> [dincercam.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's good answer [ dincercam.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's good answer [dincercam.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30425326</id>
	<title>Re:Terrraform the Eyre Basin - bigger than God</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260700740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You only need to wait. A sea level rise of about 1/2 a meter should start the ball rolling with the water draining from Spencer's Gulf to "Lake" Giles ( really just a large patch of damp salt ) then onto the other lakes<br>The really interesting question is what would a large, warm, shallow sea do to the east coasts weather patterns?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You only need to wait .
A sea level rise of about 1/2 a meter should start the ball rolling with the water draining from Spencer 's Gulf to " Lake " Giles ( really just a large patch of damp salt ) then onto the other lakesThe really interesting question is what would a large , warm , shallow sea do to the east coasts weather patterns ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You only need to wait.
A sea level rise of about 1/2 a meter should start the ball rolling with the water draining from Spencer's Gulf to "Lake" Giles ( really just a large patch of damp salt ) then onto the other lakesThe really interesting question is what would a large, warm, shallow sea do to the east coasts weather patterns?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30421674</id>
	<title>huh.</title>
	<author>dikdik</author>
	<datestamp>1260704940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>There is geological evidence that the Mediterranean and Black Seas were once cut off from the rest of the worlds oceans in (relatively recent) times. Its possible that the Arctic ocean was also cut off during the ice age, but then it was more an ice shelf than an ocean/sea.Anyway in a million years we may have managed to melt all the (land supported) ice and most of africa would be underwater before the rift opens wide. On the other hand if we cause enough of a greenhouse effect, all the water could be boiled off, and the planet resembles venus.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There is geological evidence that the Mediterranean and Black Seas were once cut off from the rest of the worlds oceans in ( relatively recent ) times .
Its possible that the Arctic ocean was also cut off during the ice age , but then it was more an ice shelf than an ocean/sea.Anyway in a million years we may have managed to melt all the ( land supported ) ice and most of africa would be underwater before the rift opens wide .
On the other hand if we cause enough of a greenhouse effect , all the water could be boiled off , and the planet resembles venus .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is geological evidence that the Mediterranean and Black Seas were once cut off from the rest of the worlds oceans in (relatively recent) times.
Its possible that the Arctic ocean was also cut off during the ice age, but then it was more an ice shelf than an ocean/sea.Anyway in a million years we may have managed to melt all the (land supported) ice and most of africa would be underwater before the rift opens wide.
On the other hand if we cause enough of a greenhouse effect, all the water could be boiled off, and the planet resembles venus.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30421650</id>
	<title>No news</title>
	<author>pmontra</author>
	<datestamp>1260704640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Julian May already wrote about it in The Golden Torc back in the '80s and her story is way more interesting than this one<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Julian May already wrote about it in The Golden Torc back in the '80s and her story is way more interesting than this one : - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Julian May already wrote about it in The Golden Torc back in the '80s and her story is way more interesting than this one :-)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30422878</id>
	<title>Re:Geo-engineering</title>
	<author>CrimsonAvenger</author>
	<datestamp>1260722520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>(there will be far more than just the radioactivity from the remains of the weapon, since much of that soil will have been exposed to extreme neutron flux and transmuted into unstable isotopes).</p></div></blockquote><p>Well, if by "much of that soil" you really meant "a minute fraction of that soil", then you're pretty much right.
</p><p>Do note, for the record, that most of those "unstable isotopes" fall into either:
</p><p>(A)long lived, and thus not very radioactive, or
</p><p>(B)short lived, and thus not radioactive very long.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>( there will be far more than just the radioactivity from the remains of the weapon , since much of that soil will have been exposed to extreme neutron flux and transmuted into unstable isotopes ) .Well , if by " much of that soil " you really meant " a minute fraction of that soil " , then you 're pretty much right .
Do note , for the record , that most of those " unstable isotopes " fall into either : ( A ) long lived , and thus not very radioactive , or ( B ) short lived , and thus not radioactive very long .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>(there will be far more than just the radioactivity from the remains of the weapon, since much of that soil will have been exposed to extreme neutron flux and transmuted into unstable isotopes).Well, if by "much of that soil" you really meant "a minute fraction of that soil", then you're pretty much right.
Do note, for the record, that most of those "unstable isotopes" fall into either:
(A)long lived, and thus not very radioactive, or
(B)short lived, and thus not radioactive very long.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30424594</id>
	<title>Would be cool to do with Death Valley</title>
	<author>trout007</author>
	<datestamp>1260695220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>I always thought it would be cool to cut a canal from the ocean to Death Valley. With the heat there you would get a lot of evaporation and could sustain a current that you could use for power generation. Plus you could cool the air and get some rainfall. We can make our own little Med.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I always thought it would be cool to cut a canal from the ocean to Death Valley .
With the heat there you would get a lot of evaporation and could sustain a current that you could use for power generation .
Plus you could cool the air and get some rainfall .
We can make our own little Med .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I always thought it would be cool to cut a canal from the ocean to Death Valley.
With the heat there you would get a lot of evaporation and could sustain a current that you could use for power generation.
Plus you could cool the air and get some rainfall.
We can make our own little Med.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30421642</id>
	<title>Geo-engineering</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260704580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This research has inspired me to save the planet.</p><p>Consider, what are the 3 big problems with AGW?</p><p>1. The climate gets warmer than we'd like.</p><p>2. The sea levels rise.</p><p>3. Mass famine as the farmland goes dry.</p><p>4. The extra CO2 acidifies the oceans screwing with the fishies and shellfish.</p><p>So now I give you the perfect geo-engineering solution to all these problems!</p><p>Step 1: Set off a bunch of Nukes in a desert somewhere, excavating giant holes in the ground.</p><p>Step 2: Dig a little path to the ocean and have it fill in the holes.</p><p>Benefits: First the ocean levels go down to their regular levels, yay! Second the resulting Nuclear winter offsets global warming, another yay!<br>Third the desert is now ocean front property and not as deserty, maybe more farm land (do this in Africa for bonus famine offsetting points).</p><p>And lastly to handle the acidy oceans... the fallout from the Nukes mutates the fishies and shellfish to adapt to the carbonic acid oceans!</p><p>Now can I have my Nobel Peace now? Other than <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0047034/" title="imdb.com" rel="nofollow">some minor side-effects</a> [imdb.com] this should be a pretty effective solution.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This research has inspired me to save the planet.Consider , what are the 3 big problems with AGW ? 1 .
The climate gets warmer than we 'd like.2 .
The sea levels rise.3 .
Mass famine as the farmland goes dry.4 .
The extra CO2 acidifies the oceans screwing with the fishies and shellfish.So now I give you the perfect geo-engineering solution to all these problems ! Step 1 : Set off a bunch of Nukes in a desert somewhere , excavating giant holes in the ground.Step 2 : Dig a little path to the ocean and have it fill in the holes.Benefits : First the ocean levels go down to their regular levels , yay !
Second the resulting Nuclear winter offsets global warming , another yay ! Third the desert is now ocean front property and not as deserty , maybe more farm land ( do this in Africa for bonus famine offsetting points ) .And lastly to handle the acidy oceans... the fallout from the Nukes mutates the fishies and shellfish to adapt to the carbonic acid oceans ! Now can I have my Nobel Peace now ?
Other than some minor side-effects [ imdb.com ] this should be a pretty effective solution .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This research has inspired me to save the planet.Consider, what are the 3 big problems with AGW?1.
The climate gets warmer than we'd like.2.
The sea levels rise.3.
Mass famine as the farmland goes dry.4.
The extra CO2 acidifies the oceans screwing with the fishies and shellfish.So now I give you the perfect geo-engineering solution to all these problems!Step 1: Set off a bunch of Nukes in a desert somewhere, excavating giant holes in the ground.Step 2: Dig a little path to the ocean and have it fill in the holes.Benefits: First the ocean levels go down to their regular levels, yay!
Second the resulting Nuclear winter offsets global warming, another yay!Third the desert is now ocean front property and not as deserty, maybe more farm land (do this in Africa for bonus famine offsetting points).And lastly to handle the acidy oceans... the fallout from the Nukes mutates the fishies and shellfish to adapt to the carbonic acid oceans!Now can I have my Nobel Peace now?
Other than some minor side-effects [imdb.com] this should be a pretty effective solution.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30422384</id>
	<title>Re:5 million?</title>
	<author>meow27</author>
	<datestamp>1260717780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>depends if you are interpreting the bible literally.<br><br>do you think the world was made in 6 literal days? especially before the sun and moon were created?<br><br>its hard to find evidence for everything up until joseph (were there is evidence that he was something like the prime minister of egypt)</htmltext>
<tokenext>depends if you are interpreting the bible literally.do you think the world was made in 6 literal days ?
especially before the sun and moon were created ? its hard to find evidence for everything up until joseph ( were there is evidence that he was something like the prime minister of egypt )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>depends if you are interpreting the bible literally.do you think the world was made in 6 literal days?
especially before the sun and moon were created?its hard to find evidence for everything up until joseph (were there is evidence that he was something like the prime minister of egypt)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30423690</id>
	<title>Dig another hole?</title>
	<author>agw</author>
	<datestamp>1260730440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So all we need is to dig another hole of a similar size to get rid of the rising sea levels?<br>Sounds like a plan.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So all we need is to dig another hole of a similar size to get rid of the rising sea levels ? Sounds like a plan .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So all we need is to dig another hole of a similar size to get rid of the rising sea levels?Sounds like a plan.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30440748</id>
	<title>Re:Roland Emmerich</title>
	<author>dogzdik</author>
	<datestamp>1260815460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Surfing Board anyone?

That would have been orgasmically cool - surfing down a HUGE deep and wide rapid into the biggest non stop wave for like AGES....

Daily

For a few months or so........

Seeing it was the plasticine age, I wonder what sort of beasties would have floated along with it?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Surfing Board anyone ?
That would have been orgasmically cool - surfing down a HUGE deep and wide rapid into the biggest non stop wave for like AGES... . Daily For a few months or so....... . Seeing it was the plasticine age , I wonder what sort of beasties would have floated along with it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Surfing Board anyone?
That would have been orgasmically cool - surfing down a HUGE deep and wide rapid into the biggest non stop wave for like AGES....

Daily

For a few months or so........

Seeing it was the plasticine age, I wonder what sort of beasties would have floated along with it?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30421664</id>
	<title>Ugh... I know where this is going...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260704760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Somehow I feel that this hypothesis will mangled beyond recognition so creationists can make it somehow seem as if it supports their idea of young earth and Noah's ark.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Somehow I feel that this hypothesis will mangled beyond recognition so creationists can make it somehow seem as if it supports their idea of young earth and Noah 's ark .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Somehow I feel that this hypothesis will mangled beyond recognition so creationists can make it somehow seem as if it supports their idea of young earth and Noah's ark.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30422644</id>
	<title>Was it really 5 million years ago?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260720540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've heard it said before that the only reason so many scientists get those dates is that they base them on assumptions. Assuming the earth is so many billion years old will get you a date that confirms your theories. Like, if you assume that a variable in an equation is a certain number, and depending on the number you assume you'll get a totally different answer than if you assumed a much larger or smaller number. Could someone confirm or deny (with evidence if possible) whether or not this is true for me? I'm very curious about this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've heard it said before that the only reason so many scientists get those dates is that they base them on assumptions .
Assuming the earth is so many billion years old will get you a date that confirms your theories .
Like , if you assume that a variable in an equation is a certain number , and depending on the number you assume you 'll get a totally different answer than if you assumed a much larger or smaller number .
Could someone confirm or deny ( with evidence if possible ) whether or not this is true for me ?
I 'm very curious about this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've heard it said before that the only reason so many scientists get those dates is that they base them on assumptions.
Assuming the earth is so many billion years old will get you a date that confirms your theories.
Like, if you assume that a variable in an equation is a certain number, and depending on the number you assume you'll get a totally different answer than if you assumed a much larger or smaller number.
Could someone confirm or deny (with evidence if possible) whether or not this is true for me?
I'm very curious about this.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30423402</id>
	<title>Re:Chaos theory</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260727740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>You are 100\% right. Assuming that scientists are trying to take current locations and velocities and figure out prehistoric locations and velocities by extrapolation backwards.<br>
<br>
Fortunately, nobody has <b>ever</b> tried to do that. One might, however, note that the fossils at the bottom of the Mediterranean only go back 5 million years, and then suddenly there's a gap before you see land-based instead of sea-based fossils. Assuming this were true over the entire sea floor in the Mediterranean, chaos theory would have nothing to do with it... it would be pretty solid proof that until 5 million years ago the Mediterranean was dry and then suddenly the entire thing was filled with salt water. Combine this with other previous findings that are unusual if you assume a fresh-water lake changing to salt water but perfectly ordinary if a low-lying area filled suddenly with salt water, and you have a good idea what happened.<br>
<br>
It's the difference between looking at a pool table and trying to tell me what happened five turns ago, and looking at a shattered bowling ball in a crater at the bottom of a cliff. I don't care if the ball was dropped five minutes ago or 500 years ago, if experiments show that a bowling ball dropped off the cliff will give you the same sized hole as the one the current shattered bowling ball is in, you can make a pretty good guess as to how the ball broke. Now, if you try to tell me that one particular fossil belonged to an elephant, and you trace its last steps as if they were fact... now Chaos theory rears its head again.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You are 100 \ % right .
Assuming that scientists are trying to take current locations and velocities and figure out prehistoric locations and velocities by extrapolation backwards .
Fortunately , nobody has ever tried to do that .
One might , however , note that the fossils at the bottom of the Mediterranean only go back 5 million years , and then suddenly there 's a gap before you see land-based instead of sea-based fossils .
Assuming this were true over the entire sea floor in the Mediterranean , chaos theory would have nothing to do with it... it would be pretty solid proof that until 5 million years ago the Mediterranean was dry and then suddenly the entire thing was filled with salt water .
Combine this with other previous findings that are unusual if you assume a fresh-water lake changing to salt water but perfectly ordinary if a low-lying area filled suddenly with salt water , and you have a good idea what happened .
It 's the difference between looking at a pool table and trying to tell me what happened five turns ago , and looking at a shattered bowling ball in a crater at the bottom of a cliff .
I do n't care if the ball was dropped five minutes ago or 500 years ago , if experiments show that a bowling ball dropped off the cliff will give you the same sized hole as the one the current shattered bowling ball is in , you can make a pretty good guess as to how the ball broke .
Now , if you try to tell me that one particular fossil belonged to an elephant , and you trace its last steps as if they were fact... now Chaos theory rears its head again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You are 100\% right.
Assuming that scientists are trying to take current locations and velocities and figure out prehistoric locations and velocities by extrapolation backwards.
Fortunately, nobody has ever tried to do that.
One might, however, note that the fossils at the bottom of the Mediterranean only go back 5 million years, and then suddenly there's a gap before you see land-based instead of sea-based fossils.
Assuming this were true over the entire sea floor in the Mediterranean, chaos theory would have nothing to do with it... it would be pretty solid proof that until 5 million years ago the Mediterranean was dry and then suddenly the entire thing was filled with salt water.
Combine this with other previous findings that are unusual if you assume a fresh-water lake changing to salt water but perfectly ordinary if a low-lying area filled suddenly with salt water, and you have a good idea what happened.
It's the difference between looking at a pool table and trying to tell me what happened five turns ago, and looking at a shattered bowling ball in a crater at the bottom of a cliff.
I don't care if the ball was dropped five minutes ago or 500 years ago, if experiments show that a bowling ball dropped off the cliff will give you the same sized hole as the one the current shattered bowling ball is in, you can make a pretty good guess as to how the ball broke.
Now, if you try to tell me that one particular fossil belonged to an elephant, and you trace its last steps as if they were fact... now Chaos theory rears its head again.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30425104</id>
	<title>Re:5 million?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260699060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Also the much quoted Biblical age of the Earth was calculated in 1650.</p></div><p>Untrue. The belief the earth is 6000 years old goes back at least to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dating\_creation#According\_to\_the\_Book\_of\_Genesis" title="wikipedia.org">200 CE</a> [wikipedia.org] : "The majority of classical Rabbis hold that the Earth was created around 6,000 years ago.[10] This view is based on a chronology developed in a midrash, Seder Olam, which was based on a literal reading of the book of Genesis. It is considered to have been written by the Tanna Yose ben Halafta and covers history from the creation of the universe to the construction of the Second Temple in Jerusalem."</p><p>I know because saint <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augustine\_of\_Hippo#Creation" title="wikipedia.org">Augustine</a> [wikipedia.org] (400 CE) referred to this timetable too : "They are deceived, too, by those highly mendacious documents which profess to give the history of many thousand years, though, reckoning by the sacred writings, we find that not 6000 years have yet passed."</p></div>
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<tokenext>Also the much quoted Biblical age of the Earth was calculated in 1650.Untrue .
The belief the earth is 6000 years old goes back at least to 200 CE [ wikipedia.org ] : " The majority of classical Rabbis hold that the Earth was created around 6,000 years ago .
[ 10 ] This view is based on a chronology developed in a midrash , Seder Olam , which was based on a literal reading of the book of Genesis .
It is considered to have been written by the Tanna Yose ben Halafta and covers history from the creation of the universe to the construction of the Second Temple in Jerusalem .
" I know because saint Augustine [ wikipedia.org ] ( 400 CE ) referred to this timetable too : " They are deceived , too , by those highly mendacious documents which profess to give the history of many thousand years , though , reckoning by the sacred writings , we find that not 6000 years have yet passed .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Also the much quoted Biblical age of the Earth was calculated in 1650.Untrue.
The belief the earth is 6000 years old goes back at least to 200 CE [wikipedia.org] : "The majority of classical Rabbis hold that the Earth was created around 6,000 years ago.
[10] This view is based on a chronology developed in a midrash, Seder Olam, which was based on a literal reading of the book of Genesis.
It is considered to have been written by the Tanna Yose ben Halafta and covers history from the creation of the universe to the construction of the Second Temple in Jerusalem.
"I know because saint Augustine [wikipedia.org] (400 CE) referred to this timetable too : "They are deceived, too, by those highly mendacious documents which profess to give the history of many thousand years, though, reckoning by the sacred writings, we find that not 6000 years have yet passed.
"
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30421794</id>
	<title>Re:Geo-engineering</title>
	<author>houghi</author>
	<datestamp>1260707700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I will help you. The dead sea is already such a big hole in the earth. So just let it stream in there. As it also will flood the most  troublesome part of the middle east, that is yet another problem solved.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I will help you .
The dead sea is already such a big hole in the earth .
So just let it stream in there .
As it also will flood the most troublesome part of the middle east , that is yet another problem solved .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I will help you.
The dead sea is already such a big hole in the earth.
So just let it stream in there.
As it also will flood the most  troublesome part of the middle east, that is yet another problem solved.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30424232</id>
	<title>Re:Ugh... I know where this is going...</title>
	<author>radtea</author>
	<datestamp>1260735420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Noah's ark.</i></p><p>Don't you mean Utnapishtim's ark?  The Noah story is just a thinly edited rip of the Sumerian flood story, and it's really irritating to see an second-hand imitation get all the credit.</p><p>If people are going to take ancient writings literally they really ought to focus on the primary sources, and not the secondary copies like the Noah story.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Noah 's ark.Do n't you mean Utnapishtim 's ark ?
The Noah story is just a thinly edited rip of the Sumerian flood story , and it 's really irritating to see an second-hand imitation get all the credit.If people are going to take ancient writings literally they really ought to focus on the primary sources , and not the secondary copies like the Noah story .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Noah's ark.Don't you mean Utnapishtim's ark?
The Noah story is just a thinly edited rip of the Sumerian flood story, and it's really irritating to see an second-hand imitation get all the credit.If people are going to take ancient writings literally they really ought to focus on the primary sources, and not the secondary copies like the Noah story.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30424462</id>
	<title>100 km/hr</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260737340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Makes for a great experience, maybe noah's ark was a surfing board after all.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Makes for a great experience , maybe noah 's ark was a surfing board after all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Makes for a great experience, maybe noah's ark was a surfing board after all.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30422310</id>
	<title>Re:Geo-engineering</title>
	<author>selven</author>
	<datestamp>1260716940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Too bad the material that gets removed to make a crater has to go somewhere.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Too bad the material that gets removed to make a crater has to go somewhere .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Too bad the material that gets removed to make a crater has to go somewhere.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30422482</id>
	<title>Yeah, right</title>
	<author>kylben</author>
	<datestamp>1260718860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Video, or it didn't happen.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Video , or it did n't happen .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Video, or it didn't happen.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30430338</id>
	<title>Science</title>
	<author>Tom</author>
	<datestamp>1260802500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I love science.</p><p>It shows us again and again just how small the "gods" of all the various religions are, and that whether or not there may be a god out there, the one written about in the holy books of all the major religions certainly isn't it, because those books and "gods" deeds in it are so clearly limited by the limits of human imagination of the times they were written in.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I love science.It shows us again and again just how small the " gods " of all the various religions are , and that whether or not there may be a god out there , the one written about in the holy books of all the major religions certainly is n't it , because those books and " gods " deeds in it are so clearly limited by the limits of human imagination of the times they were written in .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I love science.It shows us again and again just how small the "gods" of all the various religions are, and that whether or not there may be a god out there, the one written about in the holy books of all the major religions certainly isn't it, because those books and "gods" deeds in it are so clearly limited by the limits of human imagination of the times they were written in.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30425534</id>
	<title>Re:Terrraform the Eyre Basin - bigger than God</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260702180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Australia stops being a huge desert.</i></p><p>Trees grow, trap carbon. Voila! </p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Australia stops being a huge desert.Trees grow , trap carbon .
Voila !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Australia stops being a huge desert.Trees grow, trap carbon.
Voila! </sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30422172</id>
	<title>Climate change!!??</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260715200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"The flood would have dropped worldwide sea levels by 9.5 meters, probably triggering climate changes."</p><p>OMG, something MUST be done to revert the planet to it's pre-Mediterranean-Sea-filling pristine state, or you will all rot in Al Gore's climate Purgatory!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" The flood would have dropped worldwide sea levels by 9.5 meters , probably triggering climate changes .
" OMG , something MUST be done to revert the planet to it 's pre-Mediterranean-Sea-filling pristine state , or you will all rot in Al Gore 's climate Purgatory !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"The flood would have dropped worldwide sea levels by 9.5 meters, probably triggering climate changes.
"OMG, something MUST be done to revert the planet to it's pre-Mediterranean-Sea-filling pristine state, or you will all rot in Al Gore's climate Purgatory!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30421662</id>
	<title>Re:5 million?</title>
	<author>thue</author>
	<datestamp>1260704760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The creation of the Bosporus Strait is probably a better candidate: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black\_Sea\_deluge\_theory" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black\_Sea\_deluge\_theory</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The creation of the Bosporus Strait is probably a better candidate : http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black \ _Sea \ _deluge \ _theory [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The creation of the Bosporus Strait is probably a better candidate: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black\_Sea\_deluge\_theory [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_13_0017246.30431998</id>
	<title>Re:The bible doesn't say...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260810780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not really. It's common knowledge among Christians that:</p><p>Jesus was not born in 0BC. He most likely born around 6BC.</p><p>It would be nothing but an amazing coincidence if he was born on what we now call December 25th. He was more likely born some time in spring.</p><p>The "wise men" arrived when Jesus was a toddler, up to four years old, and not at his birth. We also don't know how many there were, but there were almost certainly more than three.</p><p>Jesus was not born in a stable, but more likely the house of relative.</p><p>The typical Christmas story is a traditional story, not a historical story. But still Christmas is about tradition more than anything else. Even non-Christians that celebrate Christmas will stick to traditions like Chirstmas trees and gift giving. If people need tradition for some purpose, I'll let them keep it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not really .
It 's common knowledge among Christians that : Jesus was not born in 0BC .
He most likely born around 6BC.It would be nothing but an amazing coincidence if he was born on what we now call December 25th .
He was more likely born some time in spring.The " wise men " arrived when Jesus was a toddler , up to four years old , and not at his birth .
We also do n't know how many there were , but there were almost certainly more than three.Jesus was not born in a stable , but more likely the house of relative.The typical Christmas story is a traditional story , not a historical story .
But still Christmas is about tradition more than anything else .
Even non-Christians that celebrate Christmas will stick to traditions like Chirstmas trees and gift giving .
If people need tradition for some purpose , I 'll let them keep it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not really.
It's common knowledge among Christians that:Jesus was not born in 0BC.
He most likely born around 6BC.It would be nothing but an amazing coincidence if he was born on what we now call December 25th.
He was more likely born some time in spring.The "wise men" arrived when Jesus was a toddler, up to four years old, and not at his birth.
We also don't know how many there were, but there were almost certainly more than three.Jesus was not born in a stable, but more likely the house of relative.The typical Christmas story is a traditional story, not a historical story.
But still Christmas is about tradition more than anything else.
Even non-Christians that celebrate Christmas will stick to traditions like Chirstmas trees and gift giving.
If people need tradition for some purpose, I'll let them keep it.</sentencetext>
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