<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_12_11_1846208</id>
	<title>Judges Can't "Friend" Lawyers in Florida</title>
	<author>ScuttleMonkey</author>
	<datestamp>1260521880000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="http://hughpickens.com/" rel="nofollow">Hugh Pickens</a> writes <i>"The NY Times reports that Florida's Judicial Ethics Advisory Committee has found in a recent opinion that <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/11/us/11judges.html">judges and lawyers can no longer be Facebook friends</a>. The committee says that when judges 'friend' lawyers who may appear before them, it creates the appearance of a conflict of interest, since it 'reasonably conveys to others the impression that these lawyer "friends" are in a special position to influence the judge.' Stephen Gillers, a legal ethics expert at New York University, says the Florida rule goes too far. 'In my view, they are being hypersensitive because in the case of a truly close friendship between a judge and a lawyer involved in a case, the other side can simply seek to disqualify the judge. Judges do not "drop out of society when they become judges," Gillers says. "The people who were their friends before they went on the bench remained their friends, and many of them were lawyers." Still, legal sycophants can take heart: <a href="http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/legal\_profession/2009/12/the-florida-judicial-ethics-advisory-commission-opines-on-judges-use-of-on-line-social-networking-a-summary-of-the-opinion.html">lawyers can declare themselves Facebook "fans" of judges</a>, the committee says, "as long as the judge or committee controlling the site cannot accept or reject the lawyer's listing of himself or herself on the site."'"</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hugh Pickens writes " The NY Times reports that Florida 's Judicial Ethics Advisory Committee has found in a recent opinion that judges and lawyers can no longer be Facebook friends .
The committee says that when judges 'friend ' lawyers who may appear before them , it creates the appearance of a conflict of interest , since it 'reasonably conveys to others the impression that these lawyer " friends " are in a special position to influence the judge .
' Stephen Gillers , a legal ethics expert at New York University , says the Florida rule goes too far .
'In my view , they are being hypersensitive because in the case of a truly close friendship between a judge and a lawyer involved in a case , the other side can simply seek to disqualify the judge .
Judges do not " drop out of society when they become judges , " Gillers says .
" The people who were their friends before they went on the bench remained their friends , and many of them were lawyers .
" Still , legal sycophants can take heart : lawyers can declare themselves Facebook " fans " of judges , the committee says , " as long as the judge or committee controlling the site can not accept or reject the lawyer 's listing of himself or herself on the site .
" ' "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hugh Pickens writes "The NY Times reports that Florida's Judicial Ethics Advisory Committee has found in a recent opinion that judges and lawyers can no longer be Facebook friends.
The committee says that when judges 'friend' lawyers who may appear before them, it creates the appearance of a conflict of interest, since it 'reasonably conveys to others the impression that these lawyer "friends" are in a special position to influence the judge.
' Stephen Gillers, a legal ethics expert at New York University, says the Florida rule goes too far.
'In my view, they are being hypersensitive because in the case of a truly close friendship between a judge and a lawyer involved in a case, the other side can simply seek to disqualify the judge.
Judges do not "drop out of society when they become judges," Gillers says.
"The people who were their friends before they went on the bench remained their friends, and many of them were lawyers.
" Still, legal sycophants can take heart: lawyers can declare themselves Facebook "fans" of judges, the committee says, "as long as the judge or committee controlling the site cannot accept or reject the lawyer's listing of himself or herself on the site.
"'"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30409644</id>
	<title>Re:what????</title>
	<author>Kjella</author>
	<datestamp>1260542280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, they're most likely not friends because they're on facebook and yet possibly friends in real life. I have people as facebook "friends" which has done nothing except share an elementary school class with me, and I didn't even hang out with them back them. So they friended me - lord knows how, I don't even remember their names so either they got a better memory than me or an old school book, but it'd be somewhat rude to ignore them so ok... I accept but I don't even message them and they don't message me either. Real world friends? Yeah some are on facebook but not all, if you have IRL contact you don't need facebook contact.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , they 're most likely not friends because they 're on facebook and yet possibly friends in real life .
I have people as facebook " friends " which has done nothing except share an elementary school class with me , and I did n't even hang out with them back them .
So they friended me - lord knows how , I do n't even remember their names so either they got a better memory than me or an old school book , but it 'd be somewhat rude to ignore them so ok... I accept but I do n't even message them and they do n't message me either .
Real world friends ?
Yeah some are on facebook but not all , if you have IRL contact you do n't need facebook contact .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, they're most likely not friends because they're on facebook and yet possibly friends in real life.
I have people as facebook "friends" which has done nothing except share an elementary school class with me, and I didn't even hang out with them back them.
So they friended me - lord knows how, I don't even remember their names so either they got a better memory than me or an old school book, but it'd be somewhat rude to ignore them so ok... I accept but I don't even message them and they don't message me either.
Real world friends?
Yeah some are on facebook but not all, if you have IRL contact you don't need facebook contact.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30407882</id>
	<title>Re:Really?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260531120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I absolutely think this was the right decision. Judges are in a special place where they need to avoid the appearance of bias at all costs. If friending someone on facebook gets a ruling overturned on appeal it's probably better than the friending not take place.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I absolutely think this was the right decision .
Judges are in a special place where they need to avoid the appearance of bias at all costs .
If friending someone on facebook gets a ruling overturned on appeal it 's probably better than the friending not take place .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I absolutely think this was the right decision.
Judges are in a special place where they need to avoid the appearance of bias at all costs.
If friending someone on facebook gets a ruling overturned on appeal it's probably better than the friending not take place.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30408376</id>
	<title>Re:What if both lawyers are friends</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260534060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A massive conflict of interest in favor of prolonging the trial so that both get to bleed their clients dry.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A massive conflict of interest in favor of prolonging the trial so that both get to bleed their clients dry .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A massive conflict of interest in favor of prolonging the trial so that both get to bleed their clients dry.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30407394</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30407928</id>
	<title>Re:Since when is THAT a crime?</title>
	<author>noidentity</author>
	<datestamp>1260531360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Seriously though, I'm sure it'd be more beneficial if they tried to stop the ACTUAL conflict of interest instead of trying to stop THE APPEARANCE of conflict of interest.</p></div>
</blockquote><p>If we did that, then you'd probably next be saying we need to take measures to improve the actual economic situation, not just create the appearance of economic improvement. Bah!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously though , I 'm sure it 'd be more beneficial if they tried to stop the ACTUAL conflict of interest instead of trying to stop THE APPEARANCE of conflict of interest .
If we did that , then you 'd probably next be saying we need to take measures to improve the actual economic situation , not just create the appearance of economic improvement .
Bah !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously though, I'm sure it'd be more beneficial if they tried to stop the ACTUAL conflict of interest instead of trying to stop THE APPEARANCE of conflict of interest.
If we did that, then you'd probably next be saying we need to take measures to improve the actual economic situation, not just create the appearance of economic improvement.
Bah!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30406978</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30407212</id>
	<title>Re:Really?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260527220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is that "within the next three days" or "such that the look and a full moon occur within a 72 period"?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is that " within the next three days " or " such that the look and a full moon occur within a 72 period " ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is that "within the next three days" or "such that the look and a full moon occur within a 72 period"?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30406906</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30406836</id>
	<title>The Book</title>
	<author>MikeMacK</author>
	<datestamp>1260525660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Gives new meaning to the term "throwing the book" at you...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Gives new meaning to the term " throwing the book " at you.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Gives new meaning to the term "throwing the book" at you...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30406976</id>
	<title>Good opinion</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260526140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>At first blush it may seem silly, but the perception of equality before the law is as important as the reality. When the people lose confidence in the legal system it's effectiveness is degraded automatically.</p><p>Of course at this point it may be "bailing the ocean with a fork" to try to restore that confidence. That is another story though.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>At first blush it may seem silly , but the perception of equality before the law is as important as the reality .
When the people lose confidence in the legal system it 's effectiveness is degraded automatically.Of course at this point it may be " bailing the ocean with a fork " to try to restore that confidence .
That is another story though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At first blush it may seem silly, but the perception of equality before the law is as important as the reality.
When the people lose confidence in the legal system it's effectiveness is degraded automatically.Of course at this point it may be "bailing the ocean with a fork" to try to restore that confidence.
That is another story though.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30408944</id>
	<title>Re:On a slightly unrelated note</title>
	<author>TheRaven64</author>
	<datestamp>1260537240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> Now I feel like the media is full of shit</p></div><p>You know all those stories about police officers being courteous and helpful that you read?  And all those stories about the legal system working as intended?  Stories about teachers that didn't molest the children?  You don't read these because they are not news.  News is when something unusual or unexpected happens.  No one wants - or needs - to hear when things work, only when they need fixing.  The media is not full of shit (well, with some exceptions), but they document news, not everyday occurrences.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Now I feel like the media is full of shitYou know all those stories about police officers being courteous and helpful that you read ?
And all those stories about the legal system working as intended ?
Stories about teachers that did n't molest the children ?
You do n't read these because they are not news .
News is when something unusual or unexpected happens .
No one wants - or needs - to hear when things work , only when they need fixing .
The media is not full of shit ( well , with some exceptions ) , but they document news , not everyday occurrences .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Now I feel like the media is full of shitYou know all those stories about police officers being courteous and helpful that you read?
And all those stories about the legal system working as intended?
Stories about teachers that didn't molest the children?
You don't read these because they are not news.
News is when something unusual or unexpected happens.
No one wants - or needs - to hear when things work, only when they need fixing.
The media is not full of shit (well, with some exceptions), but they document news, not everyday occurrences.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30407514</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30408614</id>
	<title>Good Ol Boys</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260535260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I recon this is to prevent the disclosure of the good ol' boys network of this corrupt profession. It would be great, if I am charged with a crime, I can go to facebook and hire the best bud of the Judge I am facing, get a head start in my favor.</p><p>.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I recon this is to prevent the disclosure of the good ol ' boys network of this corrupt profession .
It would be great , if I am charged with a crime , I can go to facebook and hire the best bud of the Judge I am facing , get a head start in my favor. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I recon this is to prevent the disclosure of the good ol' boys network of this corrupt profession.
It would be great, if I am charged with a crime, I can go to facebook and hire the best bud of the Judge I am facing, get a head start in my favor..</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30407324</id>
	<title>Instead Force them to be friends</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260527880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>What if we made all legal professionals require that they befriend each other? does that seem more reasonable.


It doesn't seem less reasonable though does it?</htmltext>
<tokenext>What if we made all legal professionals require that they befriend each other ?
does that seem more reasonable .
It does n't seem less reasonable though does it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What if we made all legal professionals require that they befriend each other?
does that seem more reasonable.
It doesn't seem less reasonable though does it?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30407264</id>
	<title>But if they actually are friends...</title>
	<author>91degrees</author>
	<datestamp>1260527520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It seems fairly sensible to me that a judge shouldn't hear a case where one side is represented by a close friend, and should disqualify himself immediately.  I'm sure there are plenty of judges.  If they're friends on facebook this policy should still apply.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It seems fairly sensible to me that a judge should n't hear a case where one side is represented by a close friend , and should disqualify himself immediately .
I 'm sure there are plenty of judges .
If they 're friends on facebook this policy should still apply .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It seems fairly sensible to me that a judge shouldn't hear a case where one side is represented by a close friend, and should disqualify himself immediately.
I'm sure there are plenty of judges.
If they're friends on facebook this policy should still apply.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30406906</id>
	<title>Really?</title>
	<author>Khris</author>
	<datestamp>1260525840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>When are we going to realize that the further we push issues like this, the more damage we're doing to our society.

Pretty soon it's going to be illegal to look at someone if they're having a bad hair day assuming it's Thursday of the 5th month with a full moon happening within 3 days.</htmltext>
<tokenext>When are we going to realize that the further we push issues like this , the more damage we 're doing to our society .
Pretty soon it 's going to be illegal to look at someone if they 're having a bad hair day assuming it 's Thursday of the 5th month with a full moon happening within 3 days .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When are we going to realize that the further we push issues like this, the more damage we're doing to our society.
Pretty soon it's going to be illegal to look at someone if they're having a bad hair day assuming it's Thursday of the 5th month with a full moon happening within 3 days.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30411202</id>
	<title>Re:Fore!</title>
	<author>jacqdesign</author>
	<datestamp>1260555240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That was my thought, the ruling is idiotic, but the judge/lawyer relationships are disgusting problems. I've dealt with it personally watching a non local defending lawyer be reamed as the judge and the prosecutor of the medium size town are so obvious it looks like courting. And it had very very nasty costs, that put someone in prison for 3 years. Saw first hand prosecutor request/suggest and get a yes, defender ask something and get serious attitude with the no. Made me think they should have a 4 year district rotation/move cycle. Treat judges/prosecutors like park rangers, and transfer them around.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That was my thought , the ruling is idiotic , but the judge/lawyer relationships are disgusting problems .
I 've dealt with it personally watching a non local defending lawyer be reamed as the judge and the prosecutor of the medium size town are so obvious it looks like courting .
And it had very very nasty costs , that put someone in prison for 3 years .
Saw first hand prosecutor request/suggest and get a yes , defender ask something and get serious attitude with the no .
Made me think they should have a 4 year district rotation/move cycle .
Treat judges/prosecutors like park rangers , and transfer them around .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That was my thought, the ruling is idiotic, but the judge/lawyer relationships are disgusting problems.
I've dealt with it personally watching a non local defending lawyer be reamed as the judge and the prosecutor of the medium size town are so obvious it looks like courting.
And it had very very nasty costs, that put someone in prison for 3 years.
Saw first hand prosecutor request/suggest and get a yes, defender ask something and get serious attitude with the no.
Made me think they should have a 4 year district rotation/move cycle.
Treat judges/prosecutors like park rangers, and transfer them around.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30411716</id>
	<title>Re:Really?</title>
	<author>the\_womble</author>
	<datestamp>1260561360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, but there is nothing to stop the judge having a drink the a lawyer every evening. It does not stop judges and lawyers being friends, it only prevents public knowledge of the friendship.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , but there is nothing to stop the judge having a drink the a lawyer every evening .
It does not stop judges and lawyers being friends , it only prevents public knowledge of the friendship .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, but there is nothing to stop the judge having a drink the a lawyer every evening.
It does not stop judges and lawyers being friends, it only prevents public knowledge of the friendship.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30407882</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30409140</id>
	<title>Semantics, Semantics</title>
	<author>LtCol Burrito</author>
	<datestamp>1260538740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's interesting commentary to me on social networking - this whole dust up appears to be from the use of the name "friend" to signify a virtual relationship.  I wonder if this issue would have come up if the name were changed to something neutral like "node" or "connection".   Using a name like that would at least avoid the superficial appearance of impropriety.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's interesting commentary to me on social networking - this whole dust up appears to be from the use of the name " friend " to signify a virtual relationship .
I wonder if this issue would have come up if the name were changed to something neutral like " node " or " connection " .
Using a name like that would at least avoid the superficial appearance of impropriety .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's interesting commentary to me on social networking - this whole dust up appears to be from the use of the name "friend" to signify a virtual relationship.
I wonder if this issue would have come up if the name were changed to something neutral like "node" or "connection".
Using a name like that would at least avoid the superficial appearance of impropriety.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30407332</id>
	<title>They do it anyway...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260527880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Whether or not they declare it in Facebook, judges and lawyers do "friend" in real life. You have to wonder how often a judge gives a lawyer a break because of this. What the Facebooking of friends does is lift the veil off this and make bias easier to spot. I would say it's a good thing, and what I'd really like to see is computers used for a deeper statistical analysis of courtroom decisions by judges with certain lawyers.</p><p>I'm sure the legal profession would hate the very idea of this, but these days judges seemed vastly disconnected from society.  Every time I hear a judge screech "*My* court" or make a dumb ass decision it's apparent they've forgotten they're nothing more than pubic servants, albeit overpaid and wearing silly black capes and/or pompous wigs. This is theater only the very rich can afford to participate in. The whole legal system needs to be tossed out on it's ass and reinvented from scratch.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Whether or not they declare it in Facebook , judges and lawyers do " friend " in real life .
You have to wonder how often a judge gives a lawyer a break because of this .
What the Facebooking of friends does is lift the veil off this and make bias easier to spot .
I would say it 's a good thing , and what I 'd really like to see is computers used for a deeper statistical analysis of courtroom decisions by judges with certain lawyers.I 'm sure the legal profession would hate the very idea of this , but these days judges seemed vastly disconnected from society .
Every time I hear a judge screech " * My * court " or make a dumb ass decision it 's apparent they 've forgotten they 're nothing more than pubic servants , albeit overpaid and wearing silly black capes and/or pompous wigs .
This is theater only the very rich can afford to participate in .
The whole legal system needs to be tossed out on it 's ass and reinvented from scratch .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Whether or not they declare it in Facebook, judges and lawyers do "friend" in real life.
You have to wonder how often a judge gives a lawyer a break because of this.
What the Facebooking of friends does is lift the veil off this and make bias easier to spot.
I would say it's a good thing, and what I'd really like to see is computers used for a deeper statistical analysis of courtroom decisions by judges with certain lawyers.I'm sure the legal profession would hate the very idea of this, but these days judges seemed vastly disconnected from society.
Every time I hear a judge screech "*My* court" or make a dumb ass decision it's apparent they've forgotten they're nothing more than pubic servants, albeit overpaid and wearing silly black capes and/or pompous wigs.
This is theater only the very rich can afford to participate in.
The whole legal system needs to be tossed out on it's ass and reinvented from scratch.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30407300</id>
	<title>Re:Not for teens anymore?</title>
	<author>nomadic</author>
	<datestamp>1260527760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm guessing you have either few friends or a lot of leisure time.  I work for a living, I don't have time to constantly call friends just to stay in touch.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm guessing you have either few friends or a lot of leisure time .
I work for a living , I do n't have time to constantly call friends just to stay in touch .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm guessing you have either few friends or a lot of leisure time.
I work for a living, I don't have time to constantly call friends just to stay in touch.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30410448</id>
	<title>Re:Since when is THAT a crime?</title>
	<author>grantsellis</author>
	<datestamp>1260548460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm sorry, but you lost me at, "If Hollywood has taught me anything about the Judiciary system,"

Because if Hollywood has taught me anything about the judicial system, it's that attorneys in criminal courts are people who are better looking than people you meet in real life, crime scene videos are infinitely zoomable so you can see the killer's microscopic tattoos, that judges like you to give a mini-criminal procedure lecture every time you make an objection, and that juries are actually impressed by grandstanding.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sorry , but you lost me at , " If Hollywood has taught me anything about the Judiciary system , " Because if Hollywood has taught me anything about the judicial system , it 's that attorneys in criminal courts are people who are better looking than people you meet in real life , crime scene videos are infinitely zoomable so you can see the killer 's microscopic tattoos , that judges like you to give a mini-criminal procedure lecture every time you make an objection , and that juries are actually impressed by grandstanding .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sorry, but you lost me at, "If Hollywood has taught me anything about the Judiciary system,"

Because if Hollywood has taught me anything about the judicial system, it's that attorneys in criminal courts are people who are better looking than people you meet in real life, crime scene videos are infinitely zoomable so you can see the killer's microscopic tattoos, that judges like you to give a mini-criminal procedure lecture every time you make an objection, and that juries are actually impressed by grandstanding.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30406978</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30407322</id>
	<title>Re:Really?</title>
	<author>Tolkien</author>
	<datestamp>1260527820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You forgot the part about Carol's mother having an appointment at the hair dresser.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</htmltext>
<tokenext>You forgot the part about Carol 's mother having an appointment at the hair dresser .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You forgot the part about Carol's mother having an appointment at the hair dresser.
:)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30406906</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30408382</id>
	<title>Re:Not for teens anymore?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260534060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He who has many friends has none.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He who has many friends has none .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He who has many friends has none.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30407300</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30411476</id>
	<title>Re:This is exactly the wrong direction</title>
	<author>bill\_mcgonigle</author>
	<datestamp>1260557940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I suspect the Florida Judicial Ethics Advisory Committee just doesn't understand what the internet really means<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... which is about information and exposing the truth. </i></p><p>Maybe they know exactly what it means - that most judges would need to recuse themselves in most cases.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I suspect the Florida Judicial Ethics Advisory Committee just does n't understand what the internet really means ... which is about information and exposing the truth .
Maybe they know exactly what it means - that most judges would need to recuse themselves in most cases .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I suspect the Florida Judicial Ethics Advisory Committee just doesn't understand what the internet really means ... which is about information and exposing the truth.
Maybe they know exactly what it means - that most judges would need to recuse themselves in most cases.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30408276</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30406918</id>
	<title>Another Example</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260525900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>of how social networks are only going to bite you in the ass eventually.</htmltext>
<tokenext>of how social networks are only going to bite you in the ass eventually .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>of how social networks are only going to bite you in the ass eventually.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30408602</id>
	<title>Re:Fore!</title>
	<author>dissy</author>
	<datestamp>1260535140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Of course, there's no problem if they all play golf together at their country club. It's the "appearance" of conflict of interest thats the problem here, not the "actual" conflict of interest that goes on all the time.</i></p><p>True that.  It is always about appearances in the public eye.</p><p>The judges and lawyers should just all join the same pro-copyright lobbing group, then everything will be peachy!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Of course , there 's no problem if they all play golf together at their country club .
It 's the " appearance " of conflict of interest thats the problem here , not the " actual " conflict of interest that goes on all the time.True that .
It is always about appearances in the public eye.The judges and lawyers should just all join the same pro-copyright lobbing group , then everything will be peachy !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of course, there's no problem if they all play golf together at their country club.
It's the "appearance" of conflict of interest thats the problem here, not the "actual" conflict of interest that goes on all the time.True that.
It is always about appearances in the public eye.The judges and lawyers should just all join the same pro-copyright lobbing group, then everything will be peachy!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30406958</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30407206</id>
	<title>Seems like the simpler resolution is</title>
	<author>Maxo-Texas</author>
	<datestamp>1260527160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>if a lawyer and judge are facebook friends then they are automatically unable to work together.</p><p>Right now you ban the record of the friendship so the best of buds can work the same case.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>if a lawyer and judge are facebook friends then they are automatically unable to work together.Right now you ban the record of the friendship so the best of buds can work the same case .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>if a lawyer and judge are facebook friends then they are automatically unable to work together.Right now you ban the record of the friendship so the best of buds can work the same case.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30407150</id>
	<title>Hmmm....</title>
	<author>Tubal-Cain</author>
	<datestamp>1260526860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Cue Florida judges friending every lawyer in the state...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Cue Florida judges friending every lawyer in the state.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cue Florida judges friending every lawyer in the state...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30410820</id>
	<title>FARK</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260551580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is why the "Florida" tag is used on fark.com.  Also, maybe Jeb and George Bush.</p><p>Plus there is a site called "news of the weird" (or something) published from Tampa, FL.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is why the " Florida " tag is used on fark.com .
Also , maybe Jeb and George Bush.Plus there is a site called " news of the weird " ( or something ) published from Tampa , FL .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is why the "Florida" tag is used on fark.com.
Also, maybe Jeb and George Bush.Plus there is a site called "news of the weird" (or something) published from Tampa, FL.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30407830</id>
	<title>How does hiding help?</title>
	<author>ikegami</author>
	<datestamp>1260530820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This reminds me of the record industry's attempts to past legislation to kick pirates off the internet without explaining how it will increase sales.

</p><p>If there is some relationship between a lawyer and a judge, how does it help anyone to hide it? Hiding it doesn't make the relationship go away.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This reminds me of the record industry 's attempts to past legislation to kick pirates off the internet without explaining how it will increase sales .
If there is some relationship between a lawyer and a judge , how does it help anyone to hide it ?
Hiding it does n't make the relationship go away .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This reminds me of the record industry's attempts to past legislation to kick pirates off the internet without explaining how it will increase sales.
If there is some relationship between a lawyer and a judge, how does it help anyone to hide it?
Hiding it doesn't make the relationship go away.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30407760</id>
	<title>What about Mafia Wars?</title>
	<author>N0Man74</author>
	<datestamp>1260530400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How are the judges going to succeed in establishing their illegal money laundering operations in Russia if you start whittling away at their Mafia?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How are the judges going to succeed in establishing their illegal money laundering operations in Russia if you start whittling away at their Mafia ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How are the judges going to succeed in establishing their illegal money laundering operations in Russia if you start whittling away at their Mafia?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30407514</id>
	<title>On a slightly unrelated note</title>
	<author>macragge</author>
	<datestamp>1260529020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I recently had the privilege of serving as a juror in a DUI trial.  I was quite pleased to discover that the Judge appeared unbiased, if not slightly more lenient towards the defense.</p><p>Also, the defense attorney poked so many holes in the prosecutor's argument: that the jury only had to deliberate for about ten minutes.  I was absolutely shocked to learn that he was a public defender.</p><p>On top of that, the defendant was a black male from the city while the jury was entirely white suburbanites.</p><p>Going into the trail, I expected that the system was going to screw the defendant, but the Judge showed no bias, the Public Defender was competent, and the Jury presumed the defendant to be innocent.  Now I feel like the media is full of shit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I recently had the privilege of serving as a juror in a DUI trial .
I was quite pleased to discover that the Judge appeared unbiased , if not slightly more lenient towards the defense.Also , the defense attorney poked so many holes in the prosecutor 's argument : that the jury only had to deliberate for about ten minutes .
I was absolutely shocked to learn that he was a public defender.On top of that , the defendant was a black male from the city while the jury was entirely white suburbanites.Going into the trail , I expected that the system was going to screw the defendant , but the Judge showed no bias , the Public Defender was competent , and the Jury presumed the defendant to be innocent .
Now I feel like the media is full of shit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I recently had the privilege of serving as a juror in a DUI trial.
I was quite pleased to discover that the Judge appeared unbiased, if not slightly more lenient towards the defense.Also, the defense attorney poked so many holes in the prosecutor's argument: that the jury only had to deliberate for about ten minutes.
I was absolutely shocked to learn that he was a public defender.On top of that, the defendant was a black male from the city while the jury was entirely white suburbanites.Going into the trail, I expected that the system was going to screw the defendant, but the Judge showed no bias, the Public Defender was competent, and the Jury presumed the defendant to be innocent.
Now I feel like the media is full of shit.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30406978</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30407470</id>
	<title>Re:Not for teens anymore?</title>
	<author>CecilPL</author>
	<datestamp>1260528840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I do call my friends. At least the ones that I hang out with regularly. However, it's just not possible to maintain friendships with the hundreds of people I've met over the years - though I would still like to stay in touch. Traditionally these were the people who you'd get a Christmas card from with a quick update on what they've been up to once a year. Facebook allows you to stay in closer contact without having to devote hours a day to calling everyone you know.</p><p>For example, I was going skiing a couple weeks ago. I noticed on facebook that one of my elementary school friends was going to the same mountain the same day. I suggested we meet there for lunch - we did and spent an hour catching up.</p><p>That's the benefit of facebook.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do call my friends .
At least the ones that I hang out with regularly .
However , it 's just not possible to maintain friendships with the hundreds of people I 've met over the years - though I would still like to stay in touch .
Traditionally these were the people who you 'd get a Christmas card from with a quick update on what they 've been up to once a year .
Facebook allows you to stay in closer contact without having to devote hours a day to calling everyone you know.For example , I was going skiing a couple weeks ago .
I noticed on facebook that one of my elementary school friends was going to the same mountain the same day .
I suggested we meet there for lunch - we did and spent an hour catching up.That 's the benefit of facebook .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I do call my friends.
At least the ones that I hang out with regularly.
However, it's just not possible to maintain friendships with the hundreds of people I've met over the years - though I would still like to stay in touch.
Traditionally these were the people who you'd get a Christmas card from with a quick update on what they've been up to once a year.
Facebook allows you to stay in closer contact without having to devote hours a day to calling everyone you know.For example, I was going skiing a couple weeks ago.
I noticed on facebook that one of my elementary school friends was going to the same mountain the same day.
I suggested we meet there for lunch - we did and spent an hour catching up.That's the benefit of facebook.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30407116</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30414956</id>
	<title>Really?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260640560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Do you really think lawyers and judges do not socialize at parties and other events often hosted by bar associations? Please grow up and develop the massive muscle in your skull called a brain.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do you really think lawyers and judges do not socialize at parties and other events often hosted by bar associations ?
Please grow up and develop the massive muscle in your skull called a brain .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do you really think lawyers and judges do not socialize at parties and other events often hosted by bar associations?
Please grow up and develop the massive muscle in your skull called a brain.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30407882</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30406868</id>
	<title>Again the US fails at common sense</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260525720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seriously? most judges start as lawyers no?</p><p>People tend to befriend people with common interests no?</p><p>I'm glad to be part of a country where people are still people.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously ?
most judges start as lawyers no ? People tend to befriend people with common interests no ? I 'm glad to be part of a country where people are still people .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously?
most judges start as lawyers no?People tend to befriend people with common interests no?I'm glad to be part of a country where people are still people.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30408722</id>
	<title>Re:Since when is THAT a crime?</title>
	<author>Atlantis-Rising</author>
	<datestamp>1260535920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The problem is, perhaps ironically, that prosecutors and judges often know each other much better than people expect simply because prosecutors come before the same judges on a regular, continuous basis. A city of millions might have seventy or eighty trial court judges. If you, as a prosecutor, spend every day in Court for a decade, or two decades, it's not at all surprising that you'd be familiar with all the judges and know at least a bit about them.</p><p>There's nothing you can do about that unless you'd like to ensure judges and prosecutors never serve terms of any reasonable duration.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The problem is , perhaps ironically , that prosecutors and judges often know each other much better than people expect simply because prosecutors come before the same judges on a regular , continuous basis .
A city of millions might have seventy or eighty trial court judges .
If you , as a prosecutor , spend every day in Court for a decade , or two decades , it 's not at all surprising that you 'd be familiar with all the judges and know at least a bit about them.There 's nothing you can do about that unless you 'd like to ensure judges and prosecutors never serve terms of any reasonable duration .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The problem is, perhaps ironically, that prosecutors and judges often know each other much better than people expect simply because prosecutors come before the same judges on a regular, continuous basis.
A city of millions might have seventy or eighty trial court judges.
If you, as a prosecutor, spend every day in Court for a decade, or two decades, it's not at all surprising that you'd be familiar with all the judges and know at least a bit about them.There's nothing you can do about that unless you'd like to ensure judges and prosecutors never serve terms of any reasonable duration.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30406978</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30408412</id>
	<title>Oh man</title>
	<author>gardel999</author>
	<datestamp>1260534180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Is it just me or is Facebook the corniest thing on the net?

If I had some friends, perhaps I'd feel differently.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is it just me or is Facebook the corniest thing on the net ?
If I had some friends , perhaps I 'd feel differently .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is it just me or is Facebook the corniest thing on the net?
If I had some friends, perhaps I'd feel differently.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30407644</id>
	<title>Disconnect from society</title>
	<author>thickdiick</author>
	<datestamp>1260529800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>They really are disconnected from society. Same with the police. If you've ever ready about or spoken to someone in a police academy, you will know that they encourage recruits to only hang out with other law enforcement officers, to only play in their sports leagues, et cetera; it indoctrinates a "us" vs "the public" mentality that follows the officer for the rest of their life. I don't know if that translates to the situation of the judges, but one can presume that an individual given such immense power, a sizeable paycheque, and so little accountability as a judge soon enough develops little connection to "everyone else."</htmltext>
<tokenext>They really are disconnected from society .
Same with the police .
If you 've ever ready about or spoken to someone in a police academy , you will know that they encourage recruits to only hang out with other law enforcement officers , to only play in their sports leagues , et cetera ; it indoctrinates a " us " vs " the public " mentality that follows the officer for the rest of their life .
I do n't know if that translates to the situation of the judges , but one can presume that an individual given such immense power , a sizeable paycheque , and so little accountability as a judge soon enough develops little connection to " everyone else .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They really are disconnected from society.
Same with the police.
If you've ever ready about or spoken to someone in a police academy, you will know that they encourage recruits to only hang out with other law enforcement officers, to only play in their sports leagues, et cetera; it indoctrinates a "us" vs "the public" mentality that follows the officer for the rest of their life.
I don't know if that translates to the situation of the judges, but one can presume that an individual given such immense power, a sizeable paycheque, and so little accountability as a judge soon enough develops little connection to "everyone else.
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30408502</id>
	<title>Re:On a slightly unrelated note</title>
	<author>linuxrocks123</author>
	<datestamp>1260534600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Remember that story about the guy facing years in prison over one single undeleted image of child porn?  He's pleading guilty on advice of a public defender.</p><p>---inuxrocks123</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Remember that story about the guy facing years in prison over one single undeleted image of child porn ?
He 's pleading guilty on advice of a public defender.---inuxrocks123</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Remember that story about the guy facing years in prison over one single undeleted image of child porn?
He's pleading guilty on advice of a public defender.---inuxrocks123</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30407514</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30406958</id>
	<title>Fore!</title>
	<author>mswhippingboy</author>
	<datestamp>1260526080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Of course, there's no problem if they all play golf together at their country club. It's the "appearance" of conflict of interest thats the problem here, not the "actual" conflict of interest that goes on all the time.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Of course , there 's no problem if they all play golf together at their country club .
It 's the " appearance " of conflict of interest thats the problem here , not the " actual " conflict of interest that goes on all the time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of course, there's no problem if they all play golf together at their country club.
It's the "appearance" of conflict of interest thats the problem here, not the "actual" conflict of interest that goes on all the time.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30407590</id>
	<title>Overly literal</title>
	<author>isoteareth</author>
	<datestamp>1260529500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is a case of people interpreting the term "Friend" as used on Facebook too literally.  I have hundreds of "friends" on Facebook.  I don't have hundreds of real friends.  What I have is hundreds of people whom I have met, perhaps quite briefly, through work, socialization, hobbies and happenstance.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is a case of people interpreting the term " Friend " as used on Facebook too literally .
I have hundreds of " friends " on Facebook .
I do n't have hundreds of real friends .
What I have is hundreds of people whom I have met , perhaps quite briefly , through work , socialization , hobbies and happenstance .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is a case of people interpreting the term "Friend" as used on Facebook too literally.
I have hundreds of "friends" on Facebook.
I don't have hundreds of real friends.
What I have is hundreds of people whom I have met, perhaps quite briefly, through work, socialization, hobbies and happenstance.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30406844</id>
	<title>blah blah blah</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260525660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A good lawyer knows the law.  A great lawyer knows the Judge.</p><p>This ruling changes nothing.  It will only serve to keep Florida judges off Facebook.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A good lawyer knows the law .
A great lawyer knows the Judge.This ruling changes nothing .
It will only serve to keep Florida judges off Facebook .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A good lawyer knows the law.
A great lawyer knows the Judge.This ruling changes nothing.
It will only serve to keep Florida judges off Facebook.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30407708</id>
	<title>Re:I agree</title>
	<author>maxume</author>
	<datestamp>1260530100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As opposed to their private relationships?</p><p>The whole story is pretty inane, but publishing the relationship on Facebook isn't going to lead to any more of a miscarriage of justice than the existence of the relationship.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As opposed to their private relationships ? The whole story is pretty inane , but publishing the relationship on Facebook is n't going to lead to any more of a miscarriage of justice than the existence of the relationship .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As opposed to their private relationships?The whole story is pretty inane, but publishing the relationship on Facebook isn't going to lead to any more of a miscarriage of justice than the existence of the relationship.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30411728</id>
	<title>Re:On a slightly unrelated note</title>
	<author>the\_womble</author>
	<datestamp>1260561480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One is not a good sample.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One is not a good sample .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One is not a good sample.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30409624</id>
	<title>Re:Florida Lawyer Jack Thompson is Lonely.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260542220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, maybe if he hung out a parties more and played some video games with people...</p><p>-- andruk (too lazy to long in)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , maybe if he hung out a parties more and played some video games with people...-- andruk ( too lazy to long in )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, maybe if he hung out a parties more and played some video games with people...-- andruk (too lazy to long in)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30406912</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30407394</id>
	<title>What if both lawyers are friends</title>
	<author>SomeJoel</author>
	<datestamp>1260528300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>I fail to see a conflict of interest if the defense lawyer and the prosecutor are both "friends" of the judge.<br>
Unless of course you start weighing how much each friend means to the judge, relatively speaking.<br>
But that path leads to madness.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I fail to see a conflict of interest if the defense lawyer and the prosecutor are both " friends " of the judge .
Unless of course you start weighing how much each friend means to the judge , relatively speaking .
But that path leads to madness .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I fail to see a conflict of interest if the defense lawyer and the prosecutor are both "friends" of the judge.
Unless of course you start weighing how much each friend means to the judge, relatively speaking.
But that path leads to madness.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30406914</id>
	<title>oblig. Godwin</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260525900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, and if Hitler were alive and on Facebook today, he would definitely friend Mussolini and we all know where that go us.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , and if Hitler were alive and on Facebook today , he would definitely friend Mussolini and we all know where that go us .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, and if Hitler were alive and on Facebook today, he would definitely friend Mussolini and we all know where that go us.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30409348</id>
	<title>Florida Is Special Case</title>
	<author>b4upoo</author>
	<datestamp>1260540300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>         Corruption and arrests of judges in Florida as well as mayors, school boards and other public positions are unusually frequent.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; In order to restore some sort of order Florida has every reason to be overly strict in requirements for judges.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; I have lived in Florida for 54 years and this state needs federal intervention. Having a Bush for governor didn't help and now we have another idiot as governor seeking a senate position.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Corruption and arrests of judges in Florida as well as mayors , school boards and other public positions are unusually frequent .
                  In order to restore some sort of order Florida has every reason to be overly strict in requirements for judges .
                  I have lived in Florida for 54 years and this state needs federal intervention .
Having a Bush for governor did n't help and now we have another idiot as governor seeking a senate position .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>         Corruption and arrests of judges in Florida as well as mayors, school boards and other public positions are unusually frequent.
                  In order to restore some sort of order Florida has every reason to be overly strict in requirements for judges.
                  I have lived in Florida for 54 years and this state needs federal intervention.
Having a Bush for governor didn't help and now we have another idiot as governor seeking a senate position.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30411486</id>
	<title>Re:On a slightly unrelated note</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260558120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>great, now a dangerous repeat-offender who was finally caught is being set free because of an incompetent prosecutor?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/sarcasm</p><p>i refuse to have any opinion on this without having witnessed all of the evidence presented; however, saying that the judge seemed "slightly more lenient towards the defense" is as disgusting as the opposite, that's my gripe, and should be everyone's. "screw the defendant"?  it sounds like you had an agenda before entering the trial and you should not have been a juror.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>great , now a dangerous repeat-offender who was finally caught is being set free because of an incompetent prosecutor ?
/sarcasmi refuse to have any opinion on this without having witnessed all of the evidence presented ; however , saying that the judge seemed " slightly more lenient towards the defense " is as disgusting as the opposite , that 's my gripe , and should be everyone 's .
" screw the defendant " ?
it sounds like you had an agenda before entering the trial and you should not have been a juror .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>great, now a dangerous repeat-offender who was finally caught is being set free because of an incompetent prosecutor?
/sarcasmi refuse to have any opinion on this without having witnessed all of the evidence presented; however, saying that the judge seemed "slightly more lenient towards the defense" is as disgusting as the opposite, that's my gripe, and should be everyone's.
"screw the defendant"?
it sounds like you had an agenda before entering the trial and you should not have been a juror.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30408000</id>
	<title>Easy solution</title>
	<author>ascari</author>
	<datestamp>1260531780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Use MySpace!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Use MySpace !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Use MySpace!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30407160</id>
	<title>like it matters</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260526920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Judges are human beings and by nature are biased by their own thinking.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Judges are human beings and by nature are biased by their own thinking .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Judges are human beings and by nature are biased by their own thinking.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30408276</id>
	<title>This is exactly the wrong direction</title>
	<author>Skapare</author>
	<datestamp>1260533640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If a judge and a lawyer that could appear before that judge are indeed friends, instead of being prohibited from disclosing that fact on Facebook, they should, instead, be mandated to disclose it.  Why keep the friendship hidden?  Hiding it works against proper ethics.  I suspect the Florida Judicial Ethics Advisory Committee just doesn't understand what the internet really means<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... which is about information and exposing the truth.  So now someone is going to need to create a new web site to detail all those friendships between judges and lawyers, complete with Youtube links for the bedroom activities (OK, in the chambers).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If a judge and a lawyer that could appear before that judge are indeed friends , instead of being prohibited from disclosing that fact on Facebook , they should , instead , be mandated to disclose it .
Why keep the friendship hidden ?
Hiding it works against proper ethics .
I suspect the Florida Judicial Ethics Advisory Committee just does n't understand what the internet really means ... which is about information and exposing the truth .
So now someone is going to need to create a new web site to detail all those friendships between judges and lawyers , complete with Youtube links for the bedroom activities ( OK , in the chambers ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If a judge and a lawyer that could appear before that judge are indeed friends, instead of being prohibited from disclosing that fact on Facebook, they should, instead, be mandated to disclose it.
Why keep the friendship hidden?
Hiding it works against proper ethics.
I suspect the Florida Judicial Ethics Advisory Committee just doesn't understand what the internet really means ... which is about information and exposing the truth.
So now someone is going to need to create a new web site to detail all those friendships between judges and lawyers, complete with Youtube links for the bedroom activities (OK, in the chambers).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30407972</id>
	<title>Re:I agree</title>
	<author>zippthorne</author>
	<datestamp>1260531600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, it's important that we avoid the appearance of impropriety.  <em>Especially</em> if actual impropriety is occurring.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , it 's important that we avoid the appearance of impropriety .
Especially if actual impropriety is occurring .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, it's important that we avoid the appearance of impropriety.
Especially if actual impropriety is occurring.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30407034</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30408302</id>
	<title>Which judges are you referring to?</title>
	<author>hellfire</author>
	<datestamp>1260533700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I'm sure the legal profession would hate the very idea of this, but these days judges seemed vastly disconnected from society.</i></p><p>I'm not so sure I agree with that.  There are plenty of pompous judges, but there are plenty of more realistic ones.  I have to admit I've been in front of traffic court judges for speeding tickets and not a one has acted like a jerk to me.  They all spoke with that "dude you broke the law, can you slow down please?" tone which was entirely deserved.  I also hear of judges who are working very hard with lawyers and homeowners to modify or even vacate bad mortgages so people can keep their homes.  That sounds very down to earth to me.  I only once had to deal with a pompous lawyer, and that was in tenant landlord court, but the decision he came down to was reasonable and fair, he was just very busy in a large city court and he doesn't have time to waste with all on his docket.  And finally I was called into jury duty once and while I wasn't selected for the final jury the judge was calm, polite, and measured in every one of his instructions and didn't act like he ruled over all of us.  Of course, my experience is only anecdotal, but then again your experience seems even more anecdotal, or is based on decisions on extreme cases you hear at the national level.  Whether or not those individual judges are pompous and disconnected could be debated, but I'm not sure they are representative of all judges.</p><p><i>Every time I hear a judge screech "*My* court" or make a dumb ass decision</i><br>Are you a lawyer, court reporter, or bailiff?  How many times have you heard a judge truly yell this?  How many decisions have you sat in on that you considered dumbass?  I'm trying to gauge your experience here because as a common person myself, the only time I've heard a judge yell those words is in a movie or TV show.  As for dumbass decisions, I can only say I've heard of a number of decisions at the national level, even at the supreme court, I strongly disagree with, but only because either the law wasn't clear and the case was incredibly difficult, or the case was politically motivated.</p><p><i>it's apparent they've forgotten they're nothing more than <b>pubic</b> servants</i><br>Pardon me while I chuckle<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:P.  Please spell and grammar check while you rant.</p><p><i>albeit overpaid and wearing silly black capes and/or pompous wigs.</i><br>From your previous posts list, I can only guess you are from Australia, because you seem to know something about events there.  If I'm wrong I'm sorry, but if you are, it would help to qualify your comments.  You would seem to be suffering from a disease my fellow american slashdotters commonly have which is "my-country-is-the-only-one-that-matter-itis".  You couldn't possible be American since American judges don't wear wigs.</p><p><i>This is theater only the very rich can afford to participate in.</i><br>I agree but that's not the judge's fault, at least not in the US anyway, and I'm not sure how that would be the Judge's fault in any system that was borrowed from the British either.  This is a topic for a completely different conversation.</p><p><i>The whole legal system needs to be tossed out on it's ass and reinvented from scratch.</i><br>In the US, aside from the money issue, I think the legal system is absolutely fantastic.  It's built on law, order, procedure, and logic.  It tries to guarentee everyone their day in court and tries it's best to come to the most reasonable conclusion in every trial, with as many checks and balances as possible.  It's not perfect, and if you think any system never imprisons innocents or lets the guilty go free you are naive.  It's also silly to blame judges for the laws they have to protect.  The Law itself is made by politicians, it's for the judge to enforce that law, so if you are convicted for an unjust law, the lawmakers screwed you, not the judges.  The US system not perfect, however, and could think of a few ways to improve it, but it does work.  Sorry I can't speak for the Australian system but I hear it's relatively stable down under these days.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sure the legal profession would hate the very idea of this , but these days judges seemed vastly disconnected from society.I 'm not so sure I agree with that .
There are plenty of pompous judges , but there are plenty of more realistic ones .
I have to admit I 've been in front of traffic court judges for speeding tickets and not a one has acted like a jerk to me .
They all spoke with that " dude you broke the law , can you slow down please ?
" tone which was entirely deserved .
I also hear of judges who are working very hard with lawyers and homeowners to modify or even vacate bad mortgages so people can keep their homes .
That sounds very down to earth to me .
I only once had to deal with a pompous lawyer , and that was in tenant landlord court , but the decision he came down to was reasonable and fair , he was just very busy in a large city court and he does n't have time to waste with all on his docket .
And finally I was called into jury duty once and while I was n't selected for the final jury the judge was calm , polite , and measured in every one of his instructions and did n't act like he ruled over all of us .
Of course , my experience is only anecdotal , but then again your experience seems even more anecdotal , or is based on decisions on extreme cases you hear at the national level .
Whether or not those individual judges are pompous and disconnected could be debated , but I 'm not sure they are representative of all judges.Every time I hear a judge screech " * My * court " or make a dumb ass decisionAre you a lawyer , court reporter , or bailiff ?
How many times have you heard a judge truly yell this ?
How many decisions have you sat in on that you considered dumbass ?
I 'm trying to gauge your experience here because as a common person myself , the only time I 've heard a judge yell those words is in a movie or TV show .
As for dumbass decisions , I can only say I 've heard of a number of decisions at the national level , even at the supreme court , I strongly disagree with , but only because either the law was n't clear and the case was incredibly difficult , or the case was politically motivated.it 's apparent they 've forgotten they 're nothing more than pubic servantsPardon me while I chuckle : P. Please spell and grammar check while you rant.albeit overpaid and wearing silly black capes and/or pompous wigs.From your previous posts list , I can only guess you are from Australia , because you seem to know something about events there .
If I 'm wrong I 'm sorry , but if you are , it would help to qualify your comments .
You would seem to be suffering from a disease my fellow american slashdotters commonly have which is " my-country-is-the-only-one-that-matter-itis " .
You could n't possible be American since American judges do n't wear wigs.This is theater only the very rich can afford to participate in.I agree but that 's not the judge 's fault , at least not in the US anyway , and I 'm not sure how that would be the Judge 's fault in any system that was borrowed from the British either .
This is a topic for a completely different conversation.The whole legal system needs to be tossed out on it 's ass and reinvented from scratch.In the US , aside from the money issue , I think the legal system is absolutely fantastic .
It 's built on law , order , procedure , and logic .
It tries to guarentee everyone their day in court and tries it 's best to come to the most reasonable conclusion in every trial , with as many checks and balances as possible .
It 's not perfect , and if you think any system never imprisons innocents or lets the guilty go free you are naive .
It 's also silly to blame judges for the laws they have to protect .
The Law itself is made by politicians , it 's for the judge to enforce that law , so if you are convicted for an unjust law , the lawmakers screwed you , not the judges .
The US system not perfect , however , and could think of a few ways to improve it , but it does work .
Sorry I ca n't speak for the Australian system but I hear it 's relatively stable down under these days .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sure the legal profession would hate the very idea of this, but these days judges seemed vastly disconnected from society.I'm not so sure I agree with that.
There are plenty of pompous judges, but there are plenty of more realistic ones.
I have to admit I've been in front of traffic court judges for speeding tickets and not a one has acted like a jerk to me.
They all spoke with that "dude you broke the law, can you slow down please?
" tone which was entirely deserved.
I also hear of judges who are working very hard with lawyers and homeowners to modify or even vacate bad mortgages so people can keep their homes.
That sounds very down to earth to me.
I only once had to deal with a pompous lawyer, and that was in tenant landlord court, but the decision he came down to was reasonable and fair, he was just very busy in a large city court and he doesn't have time to waste with all on his docket.
And finally I was called into jury duty once and while I wasn't selected for the final jury the judge was calm, polite, and measured in every one of his instructions and didn't act like he ruled over all of us.
Of course, my experience is only anecdotal, but then again your experience seems even more anecdotal, or is based on decisions on extreme cases you hear at the national level.
Whether or not those individual judges are pompous and disconnected could be debated, but I'm not sure they are representative of all judges.Every time I hear a judge screech "*My* court" or make a dumb ass decisionAre you a lawyer, court reporter, or bailiff?
How many times have you heard a judge truly yell this?
How many decisions have you sat in on that you considered dumbass?
I'm trying to gauge your experience here because as a common person myself, the only time I've heard a judge yell those words is in a movie or TV show.
As for dumbass decisions, I can only say I've heard of a number of decisions at the national level, even at the supreme court, I strongly disagree with, but only because either the law wasn't clear and the case was incredibly difficult, or the case was politically motivated.it's apparent they've forgotten they're nothing more than pubic servantsPardon me while I chuckle :P.  Please spell and grammar check while you rant.albeit overpaid and wearing silly black capes and/or pompous wigs.From your previous posts list, I can only guess you are from Australia, because you seem to know something about events there.
If I'm wrong I'm sorry, but if you are, it would help to qualify your comments.
You would seem to be suffering from a disease my fellow american slashdotters commonly have which is "my-country-is-the-only-one-that-matter-itis".
You couldn't possible be American since American judges don't wear wigs.This is theater only the very rich can afford to participate in.I agree but that's not the judge's fault, at least not in the US anyway, and I'm not sure how that would be the Judge's fault in any system that was borrowed from the British either.
This is a topic for a completely different conversation.The whole legal system needs to be tossed out on it's ass and reinvented from scratch.In the US, aside from the money issue, I think the legal system is absolutely fantastic.
It's built on law, order, procedure, and logic.
It tries to guarentee everyone their day in court and tries it's best to come to the most reasonable conclusion in every trial, with as many checks and balances as possible.
It's not perfect, and if you think any system never imprisons innocents or lets the guilty go free you are naive.
It's also silly to blame judges for the laws they have to protect.
The Law itself is made by politicians, it's for the judge to enforce that law, so if you are convicted for an unjust law, the lawmakers screwed you, not the judges.
The US system not perfect, however, and could think of a few ways to improve it, but it does work.
Sorry I can't speak for the Australian system but I hear it's relatively stable down under these days.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30406874</id>
	<title>The end of an affair...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260525780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Jack Thompson and Judge Judy are going to have to keep it on the down low from now on...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Jack Thompson and Judge Judy are going to have to keep it on the down low from now on.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Jack Thompson and Judge Judy are going to have to keep it on the down low from now on...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30412008</id>
	<title>Re:On a slightly unrelated note</title>
	<author>rastoboy29</author>
	<datestamp>1260609180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><tt>It's different if the crime is more serious.&nbsp; Lots of people change, all of a sudden.</tt></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's different if the crime is more serious.   Lots of people change , all of a sudden .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's different if the crime is more serious.  Lots of people change, all of a sudden.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30407898</id>
	<title>Re:Not for teens anymore?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260531180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I tend to look at it as a continual high school/college reunion - you have the opportunity to find out what happened to all of your friends from back then that  you lost touch with (I periodically ask myself "what ever happened to John/Jane Doe?" do a search and friend request and see who got married, who has kids, and where people are working/living these days).  It is also a push-based address book - those changing address push their new address out to all of their contacts rather than having each friend ask them for it.  Same goes for phone numbers, email addresses etc.  The list of people I talk to on the phone on a regular basis is quite small, but Facebook is a good mechanism for me to keep up with those friends I only see over the holidays (moved away, etc) during the rest of the year.  For a judge whose friends are likely fairly stable, it provides the opportunity to see what happened to his law school buddies.  Being in the same age range as you, I've also noticed it being heavily used for baby pictures.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I tend to look at it as a continual high school/college reunion - you have the opportunity to find out what happened to all of your friends from back then that you lost touch with ( I periodically ask myself " what ever happened to John/Jane Doe ?
" do a search and friend request and see who got married , who has kids , and where people are working/living these days ) .
It is also a push-based address book - those changing address push their new address out to all of their contacts rather than having each friend ask them for it .
Same goes for phone numbers , email addresses etc .
The list of people I talk to on the phone on a regular basis is quite small , but Facebook is a good mechanism for me to keep up with those friends I only see over the holidays ( moved away , etc ) during the rest of the year .
For a judge whose friends are likely fairly stable , it provides the opportunity to see what happened to his law school buddies .
Being in the same age range as you , I 've also noticed it being heavily used for baby pictures .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I tend to look at it as a continual high school/college reunion - you have the opportunity to find out what happened to all of your friends from back then that  you lost touch with (I periodically ask myself "what ever happened to John/Jane Doe?
" do a search and friend request and see who got married, who has kids, and where people are working/living these days).
It is also a push-based address book - those changing address push their new address out to all of their contacts rather than having each friend ask them for it.
Same goes for phone numbers, email addresses etc.
The list of people I talk to on the phone on a regular basis is quite small, but Facebook is a good mechanism for me to keep up with those friends I only see over the holidays (moved away, etc) during the rest of the year.
For a judge whose friends are likely fairly stable, it provides the opportunity to see what happened to his law school buddies.
Being in the same age range as you, I've also noticed it being heavily used for baby pictures.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30411762</id>
	<title>Re:Not for teens anymore?</title>
	<author>the\_womble</author>
	<datestamp>1260648420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Most of my Facebook Friends are in their thirties and forties.</p><p>Its useful for keep in in touch with friends in other countries who you do no see regularly, its useful for telling people about events or advertising things you are involved in, (its great for amateur actors and musicians), it allows a group of people to have a discussion.</p><p>The best thing has been getting in touch with people I have lost contact with. A lot of them may not be close friends, and Facebook is any easy way of keeping in touch.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Most of my Facebook Friends are in their thirties and forties.Its useful for keep in in touch with friends in other countries who you do no see regularly , its useful for telling people about events or advertising things you are involved in , ( its great for amateur actors and musicians ) , it allows a group of people to have a discussion.The best thing has been getting in touch with people I have lost contact with .
A lot of them may not be close friends , and Facebook is any easy way of keeping in touch .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most of my Facebook Friends are in their thirties and forties.Its useful for keep in in touch with friends in other countries who you do no see regularly, its useful for telling people about events or advertising things you are involved in, (its great for amateur actors and musicians), it allows a group of people to have a discussion.The best thing has been getting in touch with people I have lost contact with.
A lot of them may not be close friends, and Facebook is any easy way of keeping in touch.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30407034</id>
	<title>I agree</title>
	<author>fulldecent</author>
	<datestamp>1260526440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This sounds like a legit rule to me.</p><p>If friends lists are public (and they now are, because FB no longer allows you to hide that), then by friending someone you make a public statement.</p><p>I think public statements should be taken seriously if made by people in official positions.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This sounds like a legit rule to me.If friends lists are public ( and they now are , because FB no longer allows you to hide that ) , then by friending someone you make a public statement.I think public statements should be taken seriously if made by people in official positions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This sounds like a legit rule to me.If friends lists are public (and they now are, because FB no longer allows you to hide that), then by friending someone you make a public statement.I think public statements should be taken seriously if made by people in official positions.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30406912</id>
	<title>Florida Lawyer Jack Thompson is Lonely.</title>
	<author>jameskojiro</author>
	<datestamp>1260525900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is lonely because no one wants to friend him in Facebook.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is lonely because no one wants to friend him in Facebook .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is lonely because no one wants to friend him in Facebook.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30422554</id>
	<title>Re:Not for teens anymore?</title>
	<author>Sage Gaspar</author>
	<datestamp>1260719580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's fun to see what other people are doing occasionally and how they look now if you haven't seen them in a while. I "run into" friends and colleagues from across the country that I haven't seen in forever and have the opportunity to reconnect if I want. It lets me keep track of phone numbers and addresses without keeping a book or having to update it in the very frequent case that they change. Birthdays too! It's very low maintenance and unlike Myspace the form is standardized so I don't end up constantly running into giant flashing gifs, yellow-on-orange-on-Magic Eye backgrounds and music blasting out of my computer.<br> <br>If you don't dig it that's cool but it is a very useful tool for me.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's fun to see what other people are doing occasionally and how they look now if you have n't seen them in a while .
I " run into " friends and colleagues from across the country that I have n't seen in forever and have the opportunity to reconnect if I want .
It lets me keep track of phone numbers and addresses without keeping a book or having to update it in the very frequent case that they change .
Birthdays too !
It 's very low maintenance and unlike Myspace the form is standardized so I do n't end up constantly running into giant flashing gifs , yellow-on-orange-on-Magic Eye backgrounds and music blasting out of my computer .
If you do n't dig it that 's cool but it is a very useful tool for me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's fun to see what other people are doing occasionally and how they look now if you haven't seen them in a while.
I "run into" friends and colleagues from across the country that I haven't seen in forever and have the opportunity to reconnect if I want.
It lets me keep track of phone numbers and addresses without keeping a book or having to update it in the very frequent case that they change.
Birthdays too!
It's very low maintenance and unlike Myspace the form is standardized so I don't end up constantly running into giant flashing gifs, yellow-on-orange-on-Magic Eye backgrounds and music blasting out of my computer.
If you don't dig it that's cool but it is a very useful tool for me.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30406988</id>
	<title>what????</title>
	<author>OrangeMonkey11</author>
	<datestamp>1260526200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is just dumb; you're still going to have conflict of interest anyway because these people are most like friends outside of facebook.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is just dumb ; you 're still going to have conflict of interest anyway because these people are most like friends outside of facebook .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is just dumb; you're still going to have conflict of interest anyway because these people are most like friends outside of facebook.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30407182</id>
	<title>What a waste of tax payer dollars.</title>
	<author>hesaigo999ca</author>
	<datestamp>1260527040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Do we stop judges from hooking up with their lawyer friends in public or at the bar, do we spend tax payer money to determine how this can affect us, and how we should proceed....then the same is said for this. Why waste tax payers money on this...<br>if the judge hooks up with a lawyer thereby compromising his integrity, the opposition would have to prove of this, by having them followed and later give proof of the meetings. This is a way of them to try and deter this from happening virtually, but for them to think facebook is the only one and it's kind is retarded. Think msn hotmail, gmail, yahoo, even an online game like WoW has chatting integrated into it. Stop thenm from playing WoW too with others...come on...you got to be kidding me.</p><p>If they want to talk, they will, PGP is good for that...encrypt your messages from anynomous to anonymous, then you have really nothing...just a waste of tax payer dollars to conduct a study on why we should not allow judges with lawyer friends on facebook!!!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do we stop judges from hooking up with their lawyer friends in public or at the bar , do we spend tax payer money to determine how this can affect us , and how we should proceed....then the same is said for this .
Why waste tax payers money on this...if the judge hooks up with a lawyer thereby compromising his integrity , the opposition would have to prove of this , by having them followed and later give proof of the meetings .
This is a way of them to try and deter this from happening virtually , but for them to think facebook is the only one and it 's kind is retarded .
Think msn hotmail , gmail , yahoo , even an online game like WoW has chatting integrated into it .
Stop thenm from playing WoW too with others...come on...you got to be kidding me.If they want to talk , they will , PGP is good for that...encrypt your messages from anynomous to anonymous , then you have really nothing...just a waste of tax payer dollars to conduct a study on why we should not allow judges with lawyer friends on facebook ! ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do we stop judges from hooking up with their lawyer friends in public or at the bar, do we spend tax payer money to determine how this can affect us, and how we should proceed....then the same is said for this.
Why waste tax payers money on this...if the judge hooks up with a lawyer thereby compromising his integrity, the opposition would have to prove of this, by having them followed and later give proof of the meetings.
This is a way of them to try and deter this from happening virtually, but for them to think facebook is the only one and it's kind is retarded.
Think msn hotmail, gmail, yahoo, even an online game like WoW has chatting integrated into it.
Stop thenm from playing WoW too with others...come on...you got to be kidding me.If they want to talk, they will, PGP is good for that...encrypt your messages from anynomous to anonymous, then you have really nothing...just a waste of tax payer dollars to conduct a study on why we should not allow judges with lawyer friends on facebook!!!
!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30411654</id>
	<title>dropping out of society?</title>
	<author>dotar</author>
	<datestamp>1260560340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>maybe the price of having the power of life and death over people (literally) [i]should[/i] be that you "drop out of society"... It'd solve a lot of corruption..</htmltext>
<tokenext>maybe the price of having the power of life and death over people ( literally ) [ i ] should [ /i ] be that you " drop out of society " ... It 'd solve a lot of corruption. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>maybe the price of having the power of life and death over people (literally) [i]should[/i] be that you "drop out of society"... It'd solve a lot of corruption..</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30407304</id>
	<title>Re:Since when is THAT a crime?</title>
	<author>mswhippingboy</author>
	<datestamp>1260527760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Don't hold your breath for the lawyers in the state legislatures to make any laws that will impact them - now there's the REAL conflict of interest.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't hold your breath for the lawyers in the state legislatures to make any laws that will impact them - now there 's the REAL conflict of interest .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't hold your breath for the lawyers in the state legislatures to make any laws that will impact them - now there's the REAL conflict of interest.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30406978</id>
	<title>Since when is THAT a crime?</title>
	<author>Monkeedude1212</author>
	<datestamp>1260526140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If Hollywood has taught me anything about the Judiciary system, its that the prosecution and the judge are always the best of friends, know each other by first name, and might even have a heart to heart during recess.</p><p>Seriously though, I'm sure it'd be more beneficial if they tried to stop the ACTUAL conflict of interest instead of trying to stop THE APPEARANCE of conflict of interest.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If Hollywood has taught me anything about the Judiciary system , its that the prosecution and the judge are always the best of friends , know each other by first name , and might even have a heart to heart during recess.Seriously though , I 'm sure it 'd be more beneficial if they tried to stop the ACTUAL conflict of interest instead of trying to stop THE APPEARANCE of conflict of interest .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If Hollywood has taught me anything about the Judiciary system, its that the prosecution and the judge are always the best of friends, know each other by first name, and might even have a heart to heart during recess.Seriously though, I'm sure it'd be more beneficial if they tried to stop the ACTUAL conflict of interest instead of trying to stop THE APPEARANCE of conflict of interest.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30413768</id>
	<title>Re:</title>
	<author>clint999</author>
	<datestamp>1260631800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Congratulations. You have seen the system work the way it is supposed to<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... once.I asked a cop for directions once, and while he was rude to me, he didn't physically assault me, so I believe all these reports of tasers are false.Tonight as I look out my window I see neither stars nor moon, so obviously all this talk of "space" is nonsense. After all, I've never been there, so it can't possibly be real.Just because you haven't personally seen the train wrecks doesn't mean there haven't been any.</p></div></blockquote></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Congratulations .
You have seen the system work the way it is supposed to ... once.I asked a cop for directions once , and while he was rude to me , he did n't physically assault me , so I believe all these reports of tasers are false.Tonight as I look out my window I see neither stars nor moon , so obviously all this talk of " space " is nonsense .
After all , I 've never been there , so it ca n't possibly be real.Just because you have n't personally seen the train wrecks does n't mean there have n't been any .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Congratulations.
You have seen the system work the way it is supposed to ... once.I asked a cop for directions once, and while he was rude to me, he didn't physically assault me, so I believe all these reports of tasers are false.Tonight as I look out my window I see neither stars nor moon, so obviously all this talk of "space" is nonsense.
After all, I've never been there, so it can't possibly be real.Just because you haven't personally seen the train wrecks doesn't mean there haven't been any.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30407386</id>
	<title>Re:Not for teens anymore?</title>
	<author>Again</author>
	<datestamp>1260528240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'm sorry, I might be a bit behind the times but... does anybody above the age of 16 actually use Facebook?! I'm 27, and Facebook has been around for quite some time now, and I still cannot find what the appeal is.



If you want to know what someone is doing, why not ask them?! You *DO* have their phone number don't you? They ARE your friend aren't they?..



At any rate, what could possibly be *fun* for a grown educated adult like a judge on Facebook? Can anyone enlighten me?</p></div><p>
Both of my parents have Facebook.  My family has become quite scattered geographically and we have a family "thread" where we post quick random updates quite frequently which I find meaningful.  I'm not going to call up my whole family to tell them whether or not I liked the latest movie that I watched but I am very likely to post it in this thread.  Little, seemingly trivial updates keep me up to date on how my family is doing.</p><p>Also, I would like to add that Facebook provides a nice way to share pictures.  Especially if it isn't easy to get together with the people you would like to share the pictures with.</p><p>I am not saying that everyone will find Facebook has as much value to them as I find that it has for me but I do not find it a stretch of the imagination to think of real grown-up judges finding value in a social-networking site.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sorry , I might be a bit behind the times but... does anybody above the age of 16 actually use Facebook ? !
I 'm 27 , and Facebook has been around for quite some time now , and I still can not find what the appeal is .
If you want to know what someone is doing , why not ask them ? !
You * DO * have their phone number do n't you ?
They ARE your friend are n't they ? . .
At any rate , what could possibly be * fun * for a grown educated adult like a judge on Facebook ?
Can anyone enlighten me ?
Both of my parents have Facebook .
My family has become quite scattered geographically and we have a family " thread " where we post quick random updates quite frequently which I find meaningful .
I 'm not going to call up my whole family to tell them whether or not I liked the latest movie that I watched but I am very likely to post it in this thread .
Little , seemingly trivial updates keep me up to date on how my family is doing.Also , I would like to add that Facebook provides a nice way to share pictures .
Especially if it is n't easy to get together with the people you would like to share the pictures with.I am not saying that everyone will find Facebook has as much value to them as I find that it has for me but I do not find it a stretch of the imagination to think of real grown-up judges finding value in a social-networking site .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sorry, I might be a bit behind the times but... does anybody above the age of 16 actually use Facebook?!
I'm 27, and Facebook has been around for quite some time now, and I still cannot find what the appeal is.
If you want to know what someone is doing, why not ask them?!
You *DO* have their phone number don't you?
They ARE your friend aren't they?..
At any rate, what could possibly be *fun* for a grown educated adult like a judge on Facebook?
Can anyone enlighten me?
Both of my parents have Facebook.
My family has become quite scattered geographically and we have a family "thread" where we post quick random updates quite frequently which I find meaningful.
I'm not going to call up my whole family to tell them whether or not I liked the latest movie that I watched but I am very likely to post it in this thread.
Little, seemingly trivial updates keep me up to date on how my family is doing.Also, I would like to add that Facebook provides a nice way to share pictures.
Especially if it isn't easy to get together with the people you would like to share the pictures with.I am not saying that everyone will find Facebook has as much value to them as I find that it has for me but I do not find it a stretch of the imagination to think of real grown-up judges finding value in a social-networking site.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30409478</id>
	<title>Re:The Book</title>
	<author>NotBornYesterday</author>
	<datestamp>1260541080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Huh.  And if the Judge and/or Lawyer play Mafia Wars, does the Ethics Advisory Committee assume this means they are involved with the mob?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Huh .
And if the Judge and/or Lawyer play Mafia Wars , does the Ethics Advisory Committee assume this means they are involved with the mob ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Huh.
And if the Judge and/or Lawyer play Mafia Wars, does the Ethics Advisory Committee assume this means they are involved with the mob?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30406836</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30408100</id>
	<title>Re:Not for teens anymore?</title>
	<author>Nithendil</author>
	<datestamp>1260532500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Everyone is on Facebook. Even my mom and all of her friends. I only reluctantly signed up because all of my friends were on there. The reason I found it tolerable is because you don't really have to put much effort into it if you don't want to, and I don't post compromising information. Then an ex-girlfriend found me and sent me a six page email of her feelings and I realized what I had gotten myself into. Sometimes it is better to just disappear.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Everyone is on Facebook .
Even my mom and all of her friends .
I only reluctantly signed up because all of my friends were on there .
The reason I found it tolerable is because you do n't really have to put much effort into it if you do n't want to , and I do n't post compromising information .
Then an ex-girlfriend found me and sent me a six page email of her feelings and I realized what I had gotten myself into .
Sometimes it is better to just disappear .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Everyone is on Facebook.
Even my mom and all of her friends.
I only reluctantly signed up because all of my friends were on there.
The reason I found it tolerable is because you don't really have to put much effort into it if you don't want to, and I don't post compromising information.
Then an ex-girlfriend found me and sent me a six page email of her feelings and I realized what I had gotten myself into.
Sometimes it is better to just disappear.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30407116</id>
	<title>Not for teens anymore?</title>
	<author>ZDRuX</author>
	<datestamp>1260526740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm sorry, I might be a bit behind the times but... does anybody above the age of 16 actually use Facebook?! I'm 27, and Facebook has been around for quite some time now, and I still cannot find what the appeal is.<br> <br>

If you want to know what someone is doing, why not ask them?! You *DO* have their phone number don't you? They ARE your friend aren't they?..<br> <br>

At any rate, what could possibly be *fun* for a grown educated adult like a judge on Facebook? Can anyone enlighten me?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sorry , I might be a bit behind the times but... does anybody above the age of 16 actually use Facebook ? !
I 'm 27 , and Facebook has been around for quite some time now , and I still can not find what the appeal is .
If you want to know what someone is doing , why not ask them ? !
You * DO * have their phone number do n't you ?
They ARE your friend are n't they ? . .
At any rate , what could possibly be * fun * for a grown educated adult like a judge on Facebook ?
Can anyone enlighten me ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sorry, I might be a bit behind the times but... does anybody above the age of 16 actually use Facebook?!
I'm 27, and Facebook has been around for quite some time now, and I still cannot find what the appeal is.
If you want to know what someone is doing, why not ask them?!
You *DO* have their phone number don't you?
They ARE your friend aren't they?..
At any rate, what could possibly be *fun* for a grown educated adult like a judge on Facebook?
Can anyone enlighten me?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_1846208.30409396</id>
	<title>Re:They do it anyway...</title>
	<author>Kirijini</author>
	<datestamp>1260540660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Judges are underpaid and overworked.  They have massive dockets, and are required to write out the reasons for their major decisions.  They get one or two assistants (clerks).  They have to sit in court and deal with all the formal shit (jury selection, jury instructions, oral arguments, etc. etc.) while they ought to be busting their ass researching the law and writing decisions.</p><p>Judges aren't paid enough.  The more they're paid, the more smart lawyers who want to do good (as opposed to slowly crushing their morality while serving their clients) would be able to make the jump.  A gigantic problem in the American legal system is that lawyers, especially corporate defense lawyers, are better educated, smarter, and better paid than the judges they argue in front of.  Lawyers also have bigger and better staff supporting them.</p><p>There aren't enough judges.  The states don't spend enough on their court systems, and state courts are notoriously slow.  The federal judiciary is better off, but politics often slows down the appointment of district and appellate judges, and there are many vacant seats.</p><p>I really don't understand why the judiciary isn't a higher priority, especially for states.  I can't imagine how much money is wasted due to the inefficiency and poor quality of the court system.  A fast, effective court system would be a massive boost to the economy.  Not to mention extraordinarily important to the basic civil rights of criminal defendants.  All it needs is a higher budget priority.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Judges are underpaid and overworked .
They have massive dockets , and are required to write out the reasons for their major decisions .
They get one or two assistants ( clerks ) .
They have to sit in court and deal with all the formal shit ( jury selection , jury instructions , oral arguments , etc .
etc. ) while they ought to be busting their ass researching the law and writing decisions.Judges are n't paid enough .
The more they 're paid , the more smart lawyers who want to do good ( as opposed to slowly crushing their morality while serving their clients ) would be able to make the jump .
A gigantic problem in the American legal system is that lawyers , especially corporate defense lawyers , are better educated , smarter , and better paid than the judges they argue in front of .
Lawyers also have bigger and better staff supporting them.There are n't enough judges .
The states do n't spend enough on their court systems , and state courts are notoriously slow .
The federal judiciary is better off , but politics often slows down the appointment of district and appellate judges , and there are many vacant seats.I really do n't understand why the judiciary is n't a higher priority , especially for states .
I ca n't imagine how much money is wasted due to the inefficiency and poor quality of the court system .
A fast , effective court system would be a massive boost to the economy .
Not to mention extraordinarily important to the basic civil rights of criminal defendants .
All it needs is a higher budget priority .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Judges are underpaid and overworked.
They have massive dockets, and are required to write out the reasons for their major decisions.
They get one or two assistants (clerks).
They have to sit in court and deal with all the formal shit (jury selection, jury instructions, oral arguments, etc.
etc.) while they ought to be busting their ass researching the law and writing decisions.Judges aren't paid enough.
The more they're paid, the more smart lawyers who want to do good (as opposed to slowly crushing their morality while serving their clients) would be able to make the jump.
A gigantic problem in the American legal system is that lawyers, especially corporate defense lawyers, are better educated, smarter, and better paid than the judges they argue in front of.
Lawyers also have bigger and better staff supporting them.There aren't enough judges.
The states don't spend enough on their court systems, and state courts are notoriously slow.
The federal judiciary is better off, but politics often slows down the appointment of district and appellate judges, and there are many vacant seats.I really don't understand why the judiciary isn't a higher priority, especially for states.
I can't imagine how much money is wasted due to the inefficiency and poor quality of the court system.
A fast, effective court system would be a massive boost to the economy.
Not to mention extraordinarily important to the basic civil rights of criminal defendants.
All it needs is a higher budget priority.</sentencetext>
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