<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_12_11_095201</id>
	<title>NYT's "Games To Avoid" an Ironic, Perfect Gamer Wish List</title>
	<author>Soulskill</author>
	<datestamp>1260532080000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="http://hothardware.com/" rel="nofollow">MojoKid</a> writes <i>"From October to December, the advertising departments of a thousand companies exhort children to beg, cajole, and guilt-trip their parents for all manner of inappropriate digital entertainment. As supposedly informed gatekeepers, we sadly earthbound Santas are reduced to scouring the back pages of gaming review sites and magazines, trying to evaluate whether the tot at home is ready for Big Bird's Egg Hunt or Bayonetta. Luckily, The New York Times is here to help. In a recent article provokingly titled '<a href="http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/12/07/ten-video-games-to-cross-off-your-gift-list/">Ten Games to Cross off Your Child's Gift List</a>,' the NYT names its list of big bads &mdash; the video games so foul, so gruesome, <a href="http://hothardware.com/News/New-York-Times-Games-to-Avoid-Doubles-as-Solid-Shopping-List/">so perverse that we'd recommend you buy them immediately</a> &mdash; for yourself. Alternatively, if you need gift ideas for the surly, pale teenager in your home whose body contains more plastic then your average d20, this is the newspaper clipping to stuff in your pocket.  In other words, if you need <a href="http://www.commonsensemedia.org/10-cool-games-are-uncool-kids-and-10-alternatives">a list like this</a> to understand what games to not stuff little Johnny's stocking with this holiday season, you've got larger issues you should concern yourself with. We'd suggest picking up an auto-shotty and taking a few rounds against the horde &mdash; it's a wonderful stress relief and you're probably going to need it."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>MojoKid writes " From October to December , the advertising departments of a thousand companies exhort children to beg , cajole , and guilt-trip their parents for all manner of inappropriate digital entertainment .
As supposedly informed gatekeepers , we sadly earthbound Santas are reduced to scouring the back pages of gaming review sites and magazines , trying to evaluate whether the tot at home is ready for Big Bird 's Egg Hunt or Bayonetta .
Luckily , The New York Times is here to help .
In a recent article provokingly titled 'Ten Games to Cross off Your Child 's Gift List, ' the NYT names its list of big bads    the video games so foul , so gruesome , so perverse that we 'd recommend you buy them immediately    for yourself .
Alternatively , if you need gift ideas for the surly , pale teenager in your home whose body contains more plastic then your average d20 , this is the newspaper clipping to stuff in your pocket .
In other words , if you need a list like this to understand what games to not stuff little Johnny 's stocking with this holiday season , you 've got larger issues you should concern yourself with .
We 'd suggest picking up an auto-shotty and taking a few rounds against the horde    it 's a wonderful stress relief and you 're probably going to need it .
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<sentencetext>MojoKid writes "From October to December, the advertising departments of a thousand companies exhort children to beg, cajole, and guilt-trip their parents for all manner of inappropriate digital entertainment.
As supposedly informed gatekeepers, we sadly earthbound Santas are reduced to scouring the back pages of gaming review sites and magazines, trying to evaluate whether the tot at home is ready for Big Bird's Egg Hunt or Bayonetta.
Luckily, The New York Times is here to help.
In a recent article provokingly titled 'Ten Games to Cross off Your Child's Gift List,' the NYT names its list of big bads — the video games so foul, so gruesome, so perverse that we'd recommend you buy them immediately — for yourself.
Alternatively, if you need gift ideas for the surly, pale teenager in your home whose body contains more plastic then your average d20, this is the newspaper clipping to stuff in your pocket.
In other words, if you need a list like this to understand what games to not stuff little Johnny's stocking with this holiday season, you've got larger issues you should concern yourself with.
We'd suggest picking up an auto-shotty and taking a few rounds against the horde — it's a wonderful stress relief and you're probably going to need it.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30400508</id>
	<title>Re:list</title>
	<author>Opportunist</author>
	<datestamp>1260540540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I see Borderlands, being probably the mis-purchase of my year (bluntly, that game lacks on so many levels it's not even funny anymore), so I second that motion. But the rest of the games, at least the ones I know, look pretty decent, what's wrong with them?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I see Borderlands , being probably the mis-purchase of my year ( bluntly , that game lacks on so many levels it 's not even funny anymore ) , so I second that motion .
But the rest of the games , at least the ones I know , look pretty decent , what 's wrong with them ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I see Borderlands, being probably the mis-purchase of my year (bluntly, that game lacks on so many levels it's not even funny anymore), so I second that motion.
But the rest of the games, at least the ones I know, look pretty decent, what's wrong with them?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30400342</id>
	<title>Re:list</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260538800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't forget Pong!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't forget Pong !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't forget Pong!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30401162</id>
	<title>Re:Read the ESRB Rating</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260544200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>ESRB ratings can shove it. I'm far more qualified to know what is good/bad for my kids than a bunch of bible-thumping moralist lobbyists.</p><p>America needs to get over it. We are conservative, uptight little bitches in the eyes of the rest of the western world, deservedly so for shit just like the ESRB, the fact that shit is a "dirty" word, and the fact that entire networks are nearly shut down for displaying a nipple.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>ESRB ratings can shove it .
I 'm far more qualified to know what is good/bad for my kids than a bunch of bible-thumping moralist lobbyists.America needs to get over it .
We are conservative , uptight little bitches in the eyes of the rest of the western world , deservedly so for shit just like the ESRB , the fact that shit is a " dirty " word , and the fact that entire networks are nearly shut down for displaying a nipple .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>ESRB ratings can shove it.
I'm far more qualified to know what is good/bad for my kids than a bunch of bible-thumping moralist lobbyists.America needs to get over it.
We are conservative, uptight little bitches in the eyes of the rest of the western world, deservedly so for shit just like the ESRB, the fact that shit is a "dirty" word, and the fact that entire networks are nearly shut down for displaying a nipple.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30401028</id>
	<title>This is a non-story</title>
	<author>Liambp</author>
	<datestamp>1260543600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The New York Times article merely says that these games are not suitable for children and if you read the list they aren't. The NYT does not make nor even imply any judgement about the quality of the games in question.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The New York Times article merely says that these games are not suitable for children and if you read the list they are n't .
The NYT does not make nor even imply any judgement about the quality of the games in question .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The New York Times article merely says that these games are not suitable for children and if you read the list they aren't.
The NYT does not make nor even imply any judgement about the quality of the games in question.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30405744</id>
	<title>Re:list</title>
	<author>TheQuantumShift</author>
	<datestamp>1260563460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And when I look at those two lists, I see "New hot exciting titles that everyone is talking about" countered by "Mediocre games that just aren't selling well, pick 'em up cheap"... I especially liked the little synopsis of why the offending games were bad. MW2? Isn't the opening scene all about gunning down civilians? I guess that's OK as long as you're not some filthy terr'ist.</htmltext>
<tokenext>And when I look at those two lists , I see " New hot exciting titles that everyone is talking about " countered by " Mediocre games that just are n't selling well , pick 'em up cheap " ... I especially liked the little synopsis of why the offending games were bad .
MW2 ? Is n't the opening scene all about gunning down civilians ?
I guess that 's OK as long as you 're not some filthy terr'ist .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And when I look at those two lists, I see "New hot exciting titles that everyone is talking about" countered by "Mediocre games that just aren't selling well, pick 'em up cheap"... I especially liked the little synopsis of why the offending games were bad.
MW2? Isn't the opening scene all about gunning down civilians?
I guess that's OK as long as you're not some filthy terr'ist.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30402890</id>
	<title>Re:Read the ESRB Rating</title>
	<author>slim</author>
	<datestamp>1260552060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you don't have age ratings on games etc., you end up with what Australia has, where adult content is banned outright.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you do n't have age ratings on games etc. , you end up with what Australia has , where adult content is banned outright .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you don't have age ratings on games etc., you end up with what Australia has, where adult content is banned outright.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30400150</id>
	<title>Re:list</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260536460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I suggest we ban all games with guns and nudity... What do you mean by "nothing left to play except Tetris"?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I suggest we ban all games with guns and nudity... What do you mean by " nothing left to play except Tetris " ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I suggest we ban all games with guns and nudity... What do you mean by "nothing left to play except Tetris"?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30406042</id>
	<title>No mention of Prototype?</title>
	<author>GameboyRMH</author>
	<datestamp>1260565080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The gratuitous ultra-violence in that game is really over the top. It's still fun but you might cringe at your own actions when you swoop down from a building, grab some dude who starts crying and screaming AAAH PLEASE GOD NO!!!!!! (standard NPC behavior when you grab or slaughter them), then you beat him to death (or cut/tear him in half if you prefer) and digest his remains with your...tentacles. So you can get some information out of him. Yeah. Other possibilities include jump-kicking human/zombie enemies into the ground and using their body as a self-lubricating land surfboard, cutting everything in an 18m radius in half with a single swipe, and impaling everything in a 40m radius with spikes from the ground or tentacles from the air. To say that you'll inflict a lot of collateral damage in Prototype would be the understatement of the year, to say nothing of the insane levels of gore in general. But then in the cutscenes Alex says he feels bad and the bad guys are portrayed as being even worse so it's all for the greater good!
<br> <br>
And Chinatown Wars is on the list? It has cursing and very NSFW text but the violence is cartoonish and heavily pixelated. You shoot someone or run someone over, they scream, maybe say something funny like "AAAH I'M STILL A VIRGIN!" then they fall over and a red blotch appears under them. Big deal.
<br> <br>
Also I don't see the big deal among the THINK OF TEH CHILDREN crowd with the Left 4 Dead series. The game could scare children, for sure, but you're killing mindless bloodthirsty monsters to ensure your own survival. Gore (which can be disabled) is realistic (well, assuming those zombies are kinda soft and rotten), but not overdone and glorified. There's nothing morally reprehensible about the game. In fact I'd say it carries a positive message with its strong focus on teamwork and sharing.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The gratuitous ultra-violence in that game is really over the top .
It 's still fun but you might cringe at your own actions when you swoop down from a building , grab some dude who starts crying and screaming AAAH PLEASE GOD NO ! ! ! ! ! !
( standard NPC behavior when you grab or slaughter them ) , then you beat him to death ( or cut/tear him in half if you prefer ) and digest his remains with your...tentacles .
So you can get some information out of him .
Yeah. Other possibilities include jump-kicking human/zombie enemies into the ground and using their body as a self-lubricating land surfboard , cutting everything in an 18m radius in half with a single swipe , and impaling everything in a 40m radius with spikes from the ground or tentacles from the air .
To say that you 'll inflict a lot of collateral damage in Prototype would be the understatement of the year , to say nothing of the insane levels of gore in general .
But then in the cutscenes Alex says he feels bad and the bad guys are portrayed as being even worse so it 's all for the greater good !
And Chinatown Wars is on the list ?
It has cursing and very NSFW text but the violence is cartoonish and heavily pixelated .
You shoot someone or run someone over , they scream , maybe say something funny like " AAAH I 'M STILL A VIRGIN !
" then they fall over and a red blotch appears under them .
Big deal .
Also I do n't see the big deal among the THINK OF TEH CHILDREN crowd with the Left 4 Dead series .
The game could scare children , for sure , but you 're killing mindless bloodthirsty monsters to ensure your own survival .
Gore ( which can be disabled ) is realistic ( well , assuming those zombies are kinda soft and rotten ) , but not overdone and glorified .
There 's nothing morally reprehensible about the game .
In fact I 'd say it carries a positive message with its strong focus on teamwork and sharing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The gratuitous ultra-violence in that game is really over the top.
It's still fun but you might cringe at your own actions when you swoop down from a building, grab some dude who starts crying and screaming AAAH PLEASE GOD NO!!!!!!
(standard NPC behavior when you grab or slaughter them), then you beat him to death (or cut/tear him in half if you prefer) and digest his remains with your...tentacles.
So you can get some information out of him.
Yeah. Other possibilities include jump-kicking human/zombie enemies into the ground and using their body as a self-lubricating land surfboard, cutting everything in an 18m radius in half with a single swipe, and impaling everything in a 40m radius with spikes from the ground or tentacles from the air.
To say that you'll inflict a lot of collateral damage in Prototype would be the understatement of the year, to say nothing of the insane levels of gore in general.
But then in the cutscenes Alex says he feels bad and the bad guys are portrayed as being even worse so it's all for the greater good!
And Chinatown Wars is on the list?
It has cursing and very NSFW text but the violence is cartoonish and heavily pixelated.
You shoot someone or run someone over, they scream, maybe say something funny like "AAAH I'M STILL A VIRGIN!
" then they fall over and a red blotch appears under them.
Big deal.
Also I don't see the big deal among the THINK OF TEH CHILDREN crowd with the Left 4 Dead series.
The game could scare children, for sure, but you're killing mindless bloodthirsty monsters to ensure your own survival.
Gore (which can be disabled) is realistic (well, assuming those zombies are kinda soft and rotten), but not overdone and glorified.
There's nothing morally reprehensible about the game.
In fact I'd say it carries a positive message with its strong focus on teamwork and sharing.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30400782</id>
	<title>Re:Not a particularly helpful summary</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260542220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Dragon Age: Origins</p></div><p>I wonder if it isn't solely for the blood that will cover all your characters after even a minor fight. It made subsequent conversations with the characters rather surreal... there never was a conversation choice "Eh, do you know you are completely covered in blood?".</p><p>At least until I found the configuration option that turned this 'feature' off.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Dragon Age : OriginsI wonder if it is n't solely for the blood that will cover all your characters after even a minor fight .
It made subsequent conversations with the characters rather surreal... there never was a conversation choice " Eh , do you know you are completely covered in blood ?
" .At least until I found the configuration option that turned this 'feature ' off .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dragon Age: OriginsI wonder if it isn't solely for the blood that will cover all your characters after even a minor fight.
It made subsequent conversations with the characters rather surreal... there never was a conversation choice "Eh, do you know you are completely covered in blood?
".At least until I found the configuration option that turned this 'feature' off.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30401990</id>
	<title>Culture Shock</title>
	<author>ArundelCastle</author>
	<datestamp>1260548160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I suggest we ban all games with guns and nudity... What do you mean by "nothing left to play except Tetris"?</p></div><p>"FYI, they've banned communism too.  Oh, you meant Nintendo Gameboy Tetris. Well that's okay I guess. It's only one colour.<br>Just keep St. Basil's Cathedral out of it before the kids try to learn something about Russia and get recruited by the KGB."<br>(tags: slipperyslope satire punditry)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I suggest we ban all games with guns and nudity... What do you mean by " nothing left to play except Tetris " ?
" FYI , they 've banned communism too .
Oh , you meant Nintendo Gameboy Tetris .
Well that 's okay I guess .
It 's only one colour.Just keep St. Basil 's Cathedral out of it before the kids try to learn something about Russia and get recruited by the KGB .
" ( tags : slipperyslope satire punditry )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I suggest we ban all games with guns and nudity... What do you mean by "nothing left to play except Tetris"?
"FYI, they've banned communism too.
Oh, you meant Nintendo Gameboy Tetris.
Well that's okay I guess.
It's only one colour.Just keep St. Basil's Cathedral out of it before the kids try to learn something about Russia and get recruited by the KGB.
"(tags: slipperyslope satire punditry)
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30400480</id>
	<title>Re:list</title>
	<author>grapes911</author>
	<datestamp>1260540240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Don't forget about Dr. Mario . . . What do you mean Dr. Mario isn't really a licensed gynecologist?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't forget about Dr. Mario .
. .
What do you mean Dr. Mario is n't really a licensed gynecologist ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't forget about Dr. Mario .
. .
What do you mean Dr. Mario isn't really a licensed gynecologist?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30401090</id>
	<title>Re:list</title>
	<author>kj\_kabaje</author>
	<datestamp>1260543900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>makes you wonder what financial connections NY Times has to the games publishers or the nice and naughty lists...</htmltext>
<tokenext>makes you wonder what financial connections NY Times has to the games publishers or the nice and naughty lists.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>makes you wonder what financial connections NY Times has to the games publishers or the nice and naughty lists...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30400262</id>
	<title>Very misleading summary</title>
	<author>xIcemanx</author>
	<datestamp>1260537900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>First, it's not the NYT.  It's a blog of the NYT.  Big difference.
<br> <br>
Second, the NYT blog simply asks readers to <b>discuss</b> a list compiled by Common Sense Media of ten games not to buy your children.
<br> <br>
So to ascribe the list to the New York Times itself is incredibly misleading.</htmltext>
<tokenext>First , it 's not the NYT .
It 's a blog of the NYT .
Big difference .
Second , the NYT blog simply asks readers to discuss a list compiled by Common Sense Media of ten games not to buy your children .
So to ascribe the list to the New York Times itself is incredibly misleading .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>First, it's not the NYT.
It's a blog of the NYT.
Big difference.
Second, the NYT blog simply asks readers to discuss a list compiled by Common Sense Media of ten games not to buy your children.
So to ascribe the list to the New York Times itself is incredibly misleading.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30401112</id>
	<title>Re:Not a particularly helpful summary</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260543960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My 13 year old has four or five L70+ WoW characters and wants Dragon Age for Christmas. Seems like a no-brainer to me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My 13 year old has four or five L70 + WoW characters and wants Dragon Age for Christmas .
Seems like a no-brainer to me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My 13 year old has four or five L70+ WoW characters and wants Dragon Age for Christmas.
Seems like a no-brainer to me.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30400094</id>
	<title>list</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260535740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And the list:</p><p>Assassin&rsquo;s Creed II<br>Borderlands<br>Brutal Legend<br>Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2<br>Dead Space: Extraction<br>Dragon Age: Origins<br>Grand Theft Auto IV: The Ballad of Gay Tony<br>Demon&rsquo;s Souls<br>Left 4 Dead 2<br>Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars</p><p>Looks like a list of all the fun games of this year.</p><p>But oh, the fun just starts. Check out the alternatives list:</p><p>Alternative: Mirror's Edge<br>Alternative: Infamous<br>Alternative: Ghostbusters: The Video Game<br>Alternative: Battlefield: Bad Company<br>Alternative: Deadly Creatures<br>Alternative: Braid<br>Alternative: Batman: Arkham Asylum<br>Alternative: Uncharted 2: Among Thieves<br>Alternative: Overlord II<br>Alternative: C.O.P.: The Recruit</p><p>Many of the games on the alternatives list have exactly the same kind of violence. Hell, in Overlord you're taking control of a evil god like character that controls his minions to destroy and kill enemies, the good people.</p><p>I bet many of us played games that had gore as teens. They should had have sex too - it's even a natural thing, while violence is not (or shouldn't be). The problem isn't the gore and it wont turn a teenager in to a mindless massacer - if it is, then he has other problems that the parents should be taking care of.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And the list : Assassin    s Creed IIBorderlandsBrutal LegendCall of Duty : Modern Warfare 2Dead Space : ExtractionDragon Age : OriginsGrand Theft Auto IV : The Ballad of Gay TonyDemon    s SoulsLeft 4 Dead 2Grand Theft Auto : Chinatown WarsLooks like a list of all the fun games of this year.But oh , the fun just starts .
Check out the alternatives list : Alternative : Mirror 's EdgeAlternative : InfamousAlternative : Ghostbusters : The Video GameAlternative : Battlefield : Bad CompanyAlternative : Deadly CreaturesAlternative : BraidAlternative : Batman : Arkham AsylumAlternative : Uncharted 2 : Among ThievesAlternative : Overlord IIAlternative : C.O.P .
: The RecruitMany of the games on the alternatives list have exactly the same kind of violence .
Hell , in Overlord you 're taking control of a evil god like character that controls his minions to destroy and kill enemies , the good people.I bet many of us played games that had gore as teens .
They should had have sex too - it 's even a natural thing , while violence is not ( or should n't be ) .
The problem is n't the gore and it wont turn a teenager in to a mindless massacer - if it is , then he has other problems that the parents should be taking care of .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And the list:Assassin’s Creed IIBorderlandsBrutal LegendCall of Duty: Modern Warfare 2Dead Space: ExtractionDragon Age: OriginsGrand Theft Auto IV: The Ballad of Gay TonyDemon’s SoulsLeft 4 Dead 2Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown WarsLooks like a list of all the fun games of this year.But oh, the fun just starts.
Check out the alternatives list:Alternative: Mirror's EdgeAlternative: InfamousAlternative: Ghostbusters: The Video GameAlternative: Battlefield: Bad CompanyAlternative: Deadly CreaturesAlternative: BraidAlternative: Batman: Arkham AsylumAlternative: Uncharted 2: Among ThievesAlternative: Overlord IIAlternative: C.O.P.
: The RecruitMany of the games on the alternatives list have exactly the same kind of violence.
Hell, in Overlord you're taking control of a evil god like character that controls his minions to destroy and kill enemies, the good people.I bet many of us played games that had gore as teens.
They should had have sex too - it's even a natural thing, while violence is not (or shouldn't be).
The problem isn't the gore and it wont turn a teenager in to a mindless massacer - if it is, then he has other problems that the parents should be taking care of.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30401846</id>
	<title>Re:list</title>
	<author>SuiteSisterMary</author>
	<datestamp>1260547440000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I don't recall a single other game that allowed you to do that.</p></div></blockquote><p>Dragon Age: Origins.  Admittedly, OL2 came first.</p></div>
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<tokenext>I do n't recall a single other game that allowed you to do that.Dragon Age : Origins .
Admittedly , OL2 came first .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't recall a single other game that allowed you to do that.Dragon Age: Origins.
Admittedly, OL2 came first.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30402440</id>
	<title>Re:list</title>
	<author>XxtraLarGe</author>
	<datestamp>1260550140000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>They should had have sex too - it's even a natural thing, while violence is not (or shouldn't be).</p></div><p>Like it or not, violence is one of the most natural (and common) things in the world.</p></div>
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<tokenext>They should had have sex too - it 's even a natural thing , while violence is not ( or should n't be ) .Like it or not , violence is one of the most natural ( and common ) things in the world .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They should had have sex too - it's even a natural thing, while violence is not (or shouldn't be).Like it or not, violence is one of the most natural (and common) things in the world.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30401782</id>
	<title>good article actually</title>
	<author>DaveGod</author>
	<datestamp>1260547140000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>If you go to the <a href="http://www.commonsensemedia.org/10-cool-games-are-uncool-kids-and-10-alternatives" title="commonsensemedia.org">source article</a> [commonsensemedia.org] it's quite clear they are offering alternatives for what they consider to be very good games that (according to the age rating) are unsuitable to kids. </p><blockquote><div><p>In kid logic, games are "cool" when they have awesome graphics and gameplay, envelope-pushing storylines, and all manners of weaponry. And they aren't wrong. The games they want typically are well constructed, thoughtful, and exciting. But they're often inappropriate for the teens who hunger for them.</p></div></blockquote><p>The descriptions of the games are also generally very positive with the only issue being the suitability for minors. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the article inspired some parents to make a few orders for when they "confiscate" the xbox at night:</p><blockquote><div><p>Authentically recreated Renaissance cities, near photo-realistic action, and historical accuracy make this a great game for mature players. But playing as an assassin who relies on an arsenal of weapons makes the violence excessive.</p></div></blockquote><p> I don't see what is at all objectionable about that. Perhaps you disagree with the ratings system, but that's another issue.</p><p>Now, it's a shame the NYT article is less than clear about the games and is lacking in the good substance of the original article, but they had to change something in an otherwise plagiarised article. Still, my criticism is limited since if you want appalling media you have no better example than this here on Slashdot. It leads to a derivative article that adds nothing whatsoever to the original source on CommonSense. There is no justification for not "going to source" unless the objective is to ignorantly trash the NYT for ignorantly trashing violent games (well, at least the "irony" does have some relevance after all). I'm also unsure why, despite evidently being aware of the source, the OP actually states "the NYT names <i>its</i> list of big bads". Objective assertions like "provokingly" also seem unnecessary.</p><p>All this is quite bizarre given the same criticism can't be said of the hothardware article the OP lifts from (by the way it seems rather bad form to lift so heavily from an article when it is not prominent). His name in the OP linking to hothardware implies MojoKid is from the site though I can't see anything to corroborate that and am included to assume that is another error.</p></div>
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<tokenext>If you go to the source article [ commonsensemedia.org ] it 's quite clear they are offering alternatives for what they consider to be very good games that ( according to the age rating ) are unsuitable to kids .
In kid logic , games are " cool " when they have awesome graphics and gameplay , envelope-pushing storylines , and all manners of weaponry .
And they are n't wrong .
The games they want typically are well constructed , thoughtful , and exciting .
But they 're often inappropriate for the teens who hunger for them.The descriptions of the games are also generally very positive with the only issue being the suitability for minors .
I would n't be at all surprised if the article inspired some parents to make a few orders for when they " confiscate " the xbox at night : Authentically recreated Renaissance cities , near photo-realistic action , and historical accuracy make this a great game for mature players .
But playing as an assassin who relies on an arsenal of weapons makes the violence excessive .
I do n't see what is at all objectionable about that .
Perhaps you disagree with the ratings system , but that 's another issue.Now , it 's a shame the NYT article is less than clear about the games and is lacking in the good substance of the original article , but they had to change something in an otherwise plagiarised article .
Still , my criticism is limited since if you want appalling media you have no better example than this here on Slashdot .
It leads to a derivative article that adds nothing whatsoever to the original source on CommonSense .
There is no justification for not " going to source " unless the objective is to ignorantly trash the NYT for ignorantly trashing violent games ( well , at least the " irony " does have some relevance after all ) .
I 'm also unsure why , despite evidently being aware of the source , the OP actually states " the NYT names its list of big bads " .
Objective assertions like " provokingly " also seem unnecessary.All this is quite bizarre given the same criticism ca n't be said of the hothardware article the OP lifts from ( by the way it seems rather bad form to lift so heavily from an article when it is not prominent ) .
His name in the OP linking to hothardware implies MojoKid is from the site though I ca n't see anything to corroborate that and am included to assume that is another error .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you go to the source article [commonsensemedia.org] it's quite clear they are offering alternatives for what they consider to be very good games that (according to the age rating) are unsuitable to kids.
In kid logic, games are "cool" when they have awesome graphics and gameplay, envelope-pushing storylines, and all manners of weaponry.
And they aren't wrong.
The games they want typically are well constructed, thoughtful, and exciting.
But they're often inappropriate for the teens who hunger for them.The descriptions of the games are also generally very positive with the only issue being the suitability for minors.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if the article inspired some parents to make a few orders for when they "confiscate" the xbox at night:Authentically recreated Renaissance cities, near photo-realistic action, and historical accuracy make this a great game for mature players.
But playing as an assassin who relies on an arsenal of weapons makes the violence excessive.
I don't see what is at all objectionable about that.
Perhaps you disagree with the ratings system, but that's another issue.Now, it's a shame the NYT article is less than clear about the games and is lacking in the good substance of the original article, but they had to change something in an otherwise plagiarised article.
Still, my criticism is limited since if you want appalling media you have no better example than this here on Slashdot.
It leads to a derivative article that adds nothing whatsoever to the original source on CommonSense.
There is no justification for not "going to source" unless the objective is to ignorantly trash the NYT for ignorantly trashing violent games (well, at least the "irony" does have some relevance after all).
I'm also unsure why, despite evidently being aware of the source, the OP actually states "the NYT names its list of big bads".
Objective assertions like "provokingly" also seem unnecessary.All this is quite bizarre given the same criticism can't be said of the hothardware article the OP lifts from (by the way it seems rather bad form to lift so heavily from an article when it is not prominent).
His name in the OP linking to hothardware implies MojoKid is from the site though I can't see anything to corroborate that and am included to assume that is another error.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30401354</id>
	<title>Re:Not a particularly helpful summary</title>
	<author>spyrochaete</author>
	<datestamp>1260545040000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Assassin's Creed 2 replaced by Mirror's Edge</p></div><p>It depends on the age you're recommending to, but I just finished Mirror's Edge and I wouldn't recommend it to kids under 16.  It's got gunplay and blood, you perform dangerous acrobatics in a typical urban setting, and the characters are rather foul-mouthed.  Honestly, it's the acrobatics that would make me most nervous as a parent (if I were one).</p></div>
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<tokenext>Assassin 's Creed 2 replaced by Mirror 's EdgeIt depends on the age you 're recommending to , but I just finished Mirror 's Edge and I would n't recommend it to kids under 16 .
It 's got gunplay and blood , you perform dangerous acrobatics in a typical urban setting , and the characters are rather foul-mouthed .
Honestly , it 's the acrobatics that would make me most nervous as a parent ( if I were one ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Assassin's Creed 2 replaced by Mirror's EdgeIt depends on the age you're recommending to, but I just finished Mirror's Edge and I wouldn't recommend it to kids under 16.
It's got gunplay and blood, you perform dangerous acrobatics in a typical urban setting, and the characters are rather foul-mouthed.
Honestly, it's the acrobatics that would make me most nervous as a parent (if I were one).
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30404178</id>
	<title>Re:Read the ESRB Rating</title>
	<author>geekoid</author>
	<datestamp>1260556680000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>the articla is about educating parent about the ESRB by using sought after games as examples.</p><p>Seriously, do you jsut expect people to magically know this?</p><p>Either gain some perspective or never have children yourself.</p><p>Idiot.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>the articla is about educating parent about the ESRB by using sought after games as examples.Seriously , do you jsut expect people to magically know this ? Either gain some perspective or never have children yourself.Idiot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the articla is about educating parent about the ESRB by using sought after games as examples.Seriously, do you jsut expect people to magically know this?Either gain some perspective or never have children yourself.Idiot.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30402520</id>
	<title>Brutal Legend</title>
	<author>Vyse of Arcadia</author>
	<datestamp>1260550560000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>I don't know about the other games on the list, but you can turn off the gore and language in Brutal Legend. Brings it down from Mature to Teen IMO.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't know about the other games on the list , but you can turn off the gore and language in Brutal Legend .
Brings it down from Mature to Teen IMO .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't know about the other games on the list, but you can turn off the gore and language in Brutal Legend.
Brings it down from Mature to Teen IMO.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30407548</id>
	<title>Re:list</title>
	<author>Midnight Voyager</author>
	<datestamp>1260529200000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>Arkham Asylum?! What?!

Guys- that game is twisted. And brutal. The violence is BRUTAL. I mean, you're not slicing people apart, sure, you're just TWISTING THEIR LEG TO SNAP THEIR KNEE ALTOGETHER.

Overlord 2? I guess they totally ignored the foursome...

What the heck are these guys on? Do they even glance over these games before they put these lists up? (Answer: Obviously, no.)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Arkham Asylum ? !
What ? ! Guys- that game is twisted .
And brutal .
The violence is BRUTAL .
I mean , you 're not slicing people apart , sure , you 're just TWISTING THEIR LEG TO SNAP THEIR KNEE ALTOGETHER .
Overlord 2 ?
I guess they totally ignored the foursome.. . What the heck are these guys on ?
Do they even glance over these games before they put these lists up ?
( Answer : Obviously , no .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Arkham Asylum?!
What?!

Guys- that game is twisted.
And brutal.
The violence is BRUTAL.
I mean, you're not slicing people apart, sure, you're just TWISTING THEIR LEG TO SNAP THEIR KNEE ALTOGETHER.
Overlord 2?
I guess they totally ignored the foursome...

What the heck are these guys on?
Do they even glance over these games before they put these lists up?
(Answer: Obviously, no.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30400780</id>
	<title>Re:list</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260542220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>They should had have sex too - it's even a natural thing, while violence is not (or shouldn't be).</p></div><p>Rape is sex which occurs naturally in "lower" animals. But it's also violent.</p><p>Violence is very much natural. Even a class system is a kind of violence, and it [ostensibly] replaces the physical jockeying for position done by other pack animals &mdash; which humans very much <em>are</em>.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>The problem isn't the gore and it wont turn a teenager in to a mindless massacer - if it is, then he has other problems that the parents should be taking care of.</p></div><p>The problem is nearly always the parents to begin with.</p></div>
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<tokenext>They should had have sex too - it 's even a natural thing , while violence is not ( or should n't be ) .Rape is sex which occurs naturally in " lower " animals .
But it 's also violent.Violence is very much natural .
Even a class system is a kind of violence , and it [ ostensibly ] replaces the physical jockeying for position done by other pack animals    which humans very much are.The problem is n't the gore and it wont turn a teenager in to a mindless massacer - if it is , then he has other problems that the parents should be taking care of.The problem is nearly always the parents to begin with .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They should had have sex too - it's even a natural thing, while violence is not (or shouldn't be).Rape is sex which occurs naturally in "lower" animals.
But it's also violent.Violence is very much natural.
Even a class system is a kind of violence, and it [ostensibly] replaces the physical jockeying for position done by other pack animals — which humans very much are.The problem isn't the gore and it wont turn a teenager in to a mindless massacer - if it is, then he has other problems that the parents should be taking care of.The problem is nearly always the parents to begin with.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30400948</id>
	<title>Not the NYT's List</title>
	<author>Colonel Korn</author>
	<datestamp>1260543120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
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	<htmltext>If you RTFA, you'll see that this is a list from Common Sense Media being reported by the NYT, not the NYT editorializing.  In fact, the very first item on the list, Assassin's Creed 2, just got an almost ridiculously glowing review (that even sort of recommended it for high school students because it might enthuse them about Renaissance Italy) from the Times this week.

The Times' "conclusion" is to ask you what you think about this list and recommend discussing it below.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you RTFA , you 'll see that this is a list from Common Sense Media being reported by the NYT , not the NYT editorializing .
In fact , the very first item on the list , Assassin 's Creed 2 , just got an almost ridiculously glowing review ( that even sort of recommended it for high school students because it might enthuse them about Renaissance Italy ) from the Times this week .
The Times ' " conclusion " is to ask you what you think about this list and recommend discussing it below .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you RTFA, you'll see that this is a list from Common Sense Media being reported by the NYT, not the NYT editorializing.
In fact, the very first item on the list, Assassin's Creed 2, just got an almost ridiculously glowing review (that even sort of recommended it for high school students because it might enthuse them about Renaissance Italy) from the Times this week.
The Times' "conclusion" is to ask you what you think about this list and recommend discussing it below.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30400892</id>
	<title>Re:list</title>
	<author>ckblackm</author>
	<datestamp>1260542760000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I bet many of us played games that had gore as teens.</p></div>
</blockquote><p>

I don't think my Intellivision nor my Atari 2600 had nearly the gore level of these games..<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></div>
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<tokenext>I bet many of us played games that had gore as teens .
I do n't think my Intellivision nor my Atari 2600 had nearly the gore level of these games.. : - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bet many of us played games that had gore as teens.
I don't think my Intellivision nor my Atari 2600 had nearly the gore level of these games.. :-)
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30405916</id>
	<title>Re:list</title>
	<author>Requiem18th</author>
	<datestamp>1260564300000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>My uncle once told me that, while Tetris is not *violent* violent it is still kind of destructive since the goal is destroying blocks. Ironically he IS the heart of the parties but a technophobic so I think he was serious.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My uncle once told me that , while Tetris is not * violent * violent it is still kind of destructive since the goal is destroying blocks .
Ironically he IS the heart of the parties but a technophobic so I think he was serious .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My uncle once told me that, while Tetris is not *violent* violent it is still kind of destructive since the goal is destroying blocks.
Ironically he IS the heart of the parties but a technophobic so I think he was serious.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30400500</id>
	<title>Re:list</title>
	<author>TapeCutter</author>
	<datestamp>1260540480000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><i>"I bet many of us played games that had gore as teens."</i>
<br> <br>
Agreed, I was into Aussie rules football back in the seventies.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" I bet many of us played games that had gore as teens .
" Agreed , I was into Aussie rules football back in the seventies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"I bet many of us played games that had gore as teens.
"
 
Agreed, I was into Aussie rules football back in the seventies.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30400108</id>
	<title>Not a particularly helpful summary</title>
	<author>RogueyWon</author>
	<datestamp>1260535860000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Actually, the article is far less irritating than the summary had led me to believe. Yes, it points out 10 games that are not recommended for children and teens. But it isn't trying to get the games banned (the original commonsensemedia article actually points out that these are good games), just trying to help parents make informed decisions. This, I believe, is a good thing.</p><p>Moreover, the "suggested replacement" games aren't all of the "Barbie Horse Adventures" ilk. While a few made me raise an eyebrow, most of them are reasonable enough replacements.</p><p>Let's take a look at the list:</p><p>Assassin's Creed 2 replaced by Mirror's Edge: I haven't played AC2, but I would probably agree that the original AC is "not for kids". Mirror's Edge doesn't seem outlandish as a replacement; it's not some twee kiddy game and it does contain violence. It's just a bit less "in your face" with it. So no problems with this one.</p><p>Borderlands for Infamous: Ok, this one made me go "hmm". Borderlands has highly cartoonish violence, while Infamous is actually quite dark in its theme and has highly morally ambiguous characters. Weirdly, I think the game they've recommended is actually less suitable than the game they're replacing.</p><p>Brutal Legend for Ghostbusters: I'd have no problem with this, particularly as Ghostbusters is actually the better game provided you avoid the dismal PC version.</p><p>Call of Duty MW2 for Battlefield Bad Company 2: Fair enough. I believe a lot of PC gamers already made this switch due to the dedicated servers issue anyway. Both are respectable but unspectacular games, once you get past the hype.</p><p>Dead Space: Extraction for Deadly Creatures: I've not played Deadly Creatures, but I have played Extraction (which puts me in a small minority, judging by its dismal sales figures). While it's a "light gun" game, Extraction is absolutely and emphatically not for kids. It is dark, scary and gory.</p><p>Dragon Age: Origins for Braid: This one's deeply weird. Dragon Age isn't exactly your average hack-em-up arcade game. I suspect that any under-18s asking for Dragon Age and patient enough to stick with it past the first 10 minutes are probably mature enough to deal with it. And Braid as a replacement? A platform/puzzler as a replacement for an RPG? No, I don't think so. If I were to suggest a replacement, it would probably be Last Remnant, Lost Odyssey and Blue Dragon, which are at least RPGs. Or get them into the whole retro thing with a copy of Baldur's Gate 2 - the themes are still as mature, but it's harmless if it's just little sprites, right?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>GTA IV for Batman: Arkham Asylum: Again, the games aren't quite the same genre, so this is a tricky one. However, GTA is not for kids, end of story. The Batman game is awesome, and probably dark enough in its theme and style to satisfy most teenagers. So yes, you could do worse than this.</p><p>Demon's Souls for Uncharted 2: Yeah, no real problems with this. To be honest, I prefer Uncharted 2 as a game anyway (though this may put me in a minority).</p><p>Left 4 Dead 2 for Overlord 2: Another strange one. Overlord 2 is not an fps. Nor is it a particularly co-operative game. Nor is it fantastically good. Nor is it morally squeaky-clean (though the violence is cartoonish). I guess you could always try to track down the Australian version of L4D2.</p><p>GTA: Chinatown for C.O.P.: well, at least it's one sandbox game for another. The problem is that the reviews all seem to show that C.O.P. is basically rubbish. It's probably your best option while staying within the same genre on the same platform, but you can still expect a lot of disappointment on Christmas morning with this switch.</p><p>So yeah, at least some of the switches recommended are sensible, and this isn't a dreadful guide to parents who might not be massively savvy in these matters. On this basis, did the article summary really need to take the tone that it did?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , the article is far less irritating than the summary had led me to believe .
Yes , it points out 10 games that are not recommended for children and teens .
But it is n't trying to get the games banned ( the original commonsensemedia article actually points out that these are good games ) , just trying to help parents make informed decisions .
This , I believe , is a good thing.Moreover , the " suggested replacement " games are n't all of the " Barbie Horse Adventures " ilk .
While a few made me raise an eyebrow , most of them are reasonable enough replacements.Let 's take a look at the list : Assassin 's Creed 2 replaced by Mirror 's Edge : I have n't played AC2 , but I would probably agree that the original AC is " not for kids " .
Mirror 's Edge does n't seem outlandish as a replacement ; it 's not some twee kiddy game and it does contain violence .
It 's just a bit less " in your face " with it .
So no problems with this one.Borderlands for Infamous : Ok , this one made me go " hmm " .
Borderlands has highly cartoonish violence , while Infamous is actually quite dark in its theme and has highly morally ambiguous characters .
Weirdly , I think the game they 've recommended is actually less suitable than the game they 're replacing.Brutal Legend for Ghostbusters : I 'd have no problem with this , particularly as Ghostbusters is actually the better game provided you avoid the dismal PC version.Call of Duty MW2 for Battlefield Bad Company 2 : Fair enough .
I believe a lot of PC gamers already made this switch due to the dedicated servers issue anyway .
Both are respectable but unspectacular games , once you get past the hype.Dead Space : Extraction for Deadly Creatures : I 've not played Deadly Creatures , but I have played Extraction ( which puts me in a small minority , judging by its dismal sales figures ) .
While it 's a " light gun " game , Extraction is absolutely and emphatically not for kids .
It is dark , scary and gory.Dragon Age : Origins for Braid : This one 's deeply weird .
Dragon Age is n't exactly your average hack-em-up arcade game .
I suspect that any under-18s asking for Dragon Age and patient enough to stick with it past the first 10 minutes are probably mature enough to deal with it .
And Braid as a replacement ?
A platform/puzzler as a replacement for an RPG ?
No , I do n't think so .
If I were to suggest a replacement , it would probably be Last Remnant , Lost Odyssey and Blue Dragon , which are at least RPGs .
Or get them into the whole retro thing with a copy of Baldur 's Gate 2 - the themes are still as mature , but it 's harmless if it 's just little sprites , right ?
: ) GTA IV for Batman : Arkham Asylum : Again , the games are n't quite the same genre , so this is a tricky one .
However , GTA is not for kids , end of story .
The Batman game is awesome , and probably dark enough in its theme and style to satisfy most teenagers .
So yes , you could do worse than this.Demon 's Souls for Uncharted 2 : Yeah , no real problems with this .
To be honest , I prefer Uncharted 2 as a game anyway ( though this may put me in a minority ) .Left 4 Dead 2 for Overlord 2 : Another strange one .
Overlord 2 is not an fps .
Nor is it a particularly co-operative game .
Nor is it fantastically good .
Nor is it morally squeaky-clean ( though the violence is cartoonish ) .
I guess you could always try to track down the Australian version of L4D2.GTA : Chinatown for C.O.P .
: well , at least it 's one sandbox game for another .
The problem is that the reviews all seem to show that C.O.P .
is basically rubbish .
It 's probably your best option while staying within the same genre on the same platform , but you can still expect a lot of disappointment on Christmas morning with this switch.So yeah , at least some of the switches recommended are sensible , and this is n't a dreadful guide to parents who might not be massively savvy in these matters .
On this basis , did the article summary really need to take the tone that it did ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, the article is far less irritating than the summary had led me to believe.
Yes, it points out 10 games that are not recommended for children and teens.
But it isn't trying to get the games banned (the original commonsensemedia article actually points out that these are good games), just trying to help parents make informed decisions.
This, I believe, is a good thing.Moreover, the "suggested replacement" games aren't all of the "Barbie Horse Adventures" ilk.
While a few made me raise an eyebrow, most of them are reasonable enough replacements.Let's take a look at the list:Assassin's Creed 2 replaced by Mirror's Edge: I haven't played AC2, but I would probably agree that the original AC is "not for kids".
Mirror's Edge doesn't seem outlandish as a replacement; it's not some twee kiddy game and it does contain violence.
It's just a bit less "in your face" with it.
So no problems with this one.Borderlands for Infamous: Ok, this one made me go "hmm".
Borderlands has highly cartoonish violence, while Infamous is actually quite dark in its theme and has highly morally ambiguous characters.
Weirdly, I think the game they've recommended is actually less suitable than the game they're replacing.Brutal Legend for Ghostbusters: I'd have no problem with this, particularly as Ghostbusters is actually the better game provided you avoid the dismal PC version.Call of Duty MW2 for Battlefield Bad Company 2: Fair enough.
I believe a lot of PC gamers already made this switch due to the dedicated servers issue anyway.
Both are respectable but unspectacular games, once you get past the hype.Dead Space: Extraction for Deadly Creatures: I've not played Deadly Creatures, but I have played Extraction (which puts me in a small minority, judging by its dismal sales figures).
While it's a "light gun" game, Extraction is absolutely and emphatically not for kids.
It is dark, scary and gory.Dragon Age: Origins for Braid: This one's deeply weird.
Dragon Age isn't exactly your average hack-em-up arcade game.
I suspect that any under-18s asking for Dragon Age and patient enough to stick with it past the first 10 minutes are probably mature enough to deal with it.
And Braid as a replacement?
A platform/puzzler as a replacement for an RPG?
No, I don't think so.
If I were to suggest a replacement, it would probably be Last Remnant, Lost Odyssey and Blue Dragon, which are at least RPGs.
Or get them into the whole retro thing with a copy of Baldur's Gate 2 - the themes are still as mature, but it's harmless if it's just little sprites, right?
:)GTA IV for Batman: Arkham Asylum: Again, the games aren't quite the same genre, so this is a tricky one.
However, GTA is not for kids, end of story.
The Batman game is awesome, and probably dark enough in its theme and style to satisfy most teenagers.
So yes, you could do worse than this.Demon's Souls for Uncharted 2: Yeah, no real problems with this.
To be honest, I prefer Uncharted 2 as a game anyway (though this may put me in a minority).Left 4 Dead 2 for Overlord 2: Another strange one.
Overlord 2 is not an fps.
Nor is it a particularly co-operative game.
Nor is it fantastically good.
Nor is it morally squeaky-clean (though the violence is cartoonish).
I guess you could always try to track down the Australian version of L4D2.GTA: Chinatown for C.O.P.
: well, at least it's one sandbox game for another.
The problem is that the reviews all seem to show that C.O.P.
is basically rubbish.
It's probably your best option while staying within the same genre on the same platform, but you can still expect a lot of disappointment on Christmas morning with this switch.So yeah, at least some of the switches recommended are sensible, and this isn't a dreadful guide to parents who might not be massively savvy in these matters.
On this basis, did the article summary really need to take the tone that it did?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30401824</id>
	<title>Call Alanis, again!</title>
	<author>Bakkster</author>
	<datestamp>1260547320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Actually, the article is far less irritating than the summary had led me to believe. Yes, it points out 10 games that are not recommended for children and teens. But it isn't trying to get the games banned (the original commonsensemedia article actually points out that these are good games), just trying to help parents make informed decisions. This, I believe, is a good thing.</p></div><p>It's also hardly ironic that a list of "games not to buy your children when they ask for them" would be populated by good games worth asking for.  It's not like everyone's kids are asking for shitty games.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , the article is far less irritating than the summary had led me to believe .
Yes , it points out 10 games that are not recommended for children and teens .
But it is n't trying to get the games banned ( the original commonsensemedia article actually points out that these are good games ) , just trying to help parents make informed decisions .
This , I believe , is a good thing.It 's also hardly ironic that a list of " games not to buy your children when they ask for them " would be populated by good games worth asking for .
It 's not like everyone 's kids are asking for shitty games .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, the article is far less irritating than the summary had led me to believe.
Yes, it points out 10 games that are not recommended for children and teens.
But it isn't trying to get the games banned (the original commonsensemedia article actually points out that these are good games), just trying to help parents make informed decisions.
This, I believe, is a good thing.It's also hardly ironic that a list of "games not to buy your children when they ask for them" would be populated by good games worth asking for.
It's not like everyone's kids are asking for shitty games.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30400518</id>
	<title>FTW!</title>
	<author>Ipeunipig</author>
	<datestamp>1260540540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Nazi zombies riding velociraptors!!

I wanna play THAT game!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Nazi zombies riding velociraptors ! !
I wan na play THAT game !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nazi zombies riding velociraptors!!
I wanna play THAT game!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30407750</id>
	<title>Re:list</title>
	<author>bertoelcon</author>
	<datestamp>1260530340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Tetris is a comunist look at destroying the building blocks of modern society.  This is why the straight piece which clears all those lines is RED.</p></div><p>I always thought is was "The Man's" Phallic Symbol for tearing you down.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Tetris is a comunist look at destroying the building blocks of modern society .
This is why the straight piece which clears all those lines is RED.I always thought is was " The Man 's " Phallic Symbol for tearing you down .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tetris is a comunist look at destroying the building blocks of modern society.
This is why the straight piece which clears all those lines is RED.I always thought is was "The Man's" Phallic Symbol for tearing you down.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30400790</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30400488</id>
	<title>They did a nice review of Assassin's Creed II</title>
	<author>cornicefire</author>
	<datestamp>1260540300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/08/arts/television/08assassin.html" title="nytimes.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/08/arts/television/08assassin.html</a> [nytimes.com]

Made me want to buy the game.</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.nytimes.com/2009/12/08/arts/television/08assassin.html [ nytimes.com ] Made me want to buy the game .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/08/arts/television/08assassin.html [nytimes.com]

Made me want to buy the game.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30400218</id>
	<title>Gee, how were they supposed to know?</title>
	<author>meerling</author>
	<datestamp>1260537300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Without out that list, how could parents ever know that an M rated game wasn't appropriate for kids?<br>I mean, it's not like there is a rather visible ESRB M logo which says Mature 17+ on the front or back of the game case, if not both.<br>Or that most stores tend to post an ESRB list by their games.<br>Or even that the ESRB has been around for 15 years.<br>I mean really... if even one of those things had been true, that list would be totally inane.<br><br>Errr, sorry what?  Are you sure?  No, really, it can't be...<br>Ummm...<br>Excuse me everyone, apparently I was mistaken.<br>It seems that all of those, um, examples are in fact true.  Boy is my editors face red for letting that one slip through.<br>I'll return you to your previously viewed ranting as soon as you stop reading this.<br>&gt;^\_^&lt;</htmltext>
<tokenext>Without out that list , how could parents ever know that an M rated game was n't appropriate for kids ? I mean , it 's not like there is a rather visible ESRB M logo which says Mature 17 + on the front or back of the game case , if not both.Or that most stores tend to post an ESRB list by their games.Or even that the ESRB has been around for 15 years.I mean really... if even one of those things had been true , that list would be totally inane.Errr , sorry what ?
Are you sure ?
No , really , it ca n't be...Ummm...Excuse me everyone , apparently I was mistaken.It seems that all of those , um , examples are in fact true .
Boy is my editors face red for letting that one slip through.I 'll return you to your previously viewed ranting as soon as you stop reading this. &gt; ^ \ _ ^ &lt;</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Without out that list, how could parents ever know that an M rated game wasn't appropriate for kids?I mean, it's not like there is a rather visible ESRB M logo which says Mature 17+ on the front or back of the game case, if not both.Or that most stores tend to post an ESRB list by their games.Or even that the ESRB has been around for 15 years.I mean really... if even one of those things had been true, that list would be totally inane.Errr, sorry what?
Are you sure?
No, really, it can't be...Ummm...Excuse me everyone, apparently I was mistaken.It seems that all of those, um, examples are in fact true.
Boy is my editors face red for letting that one slip through.I'll return you to your previously viewed ranting as soon as you stop reading this.&gt;^\_^&lt;</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30404616</id>
	<title>warning!  omission!</title>
	<author>archangel9</author>
	<datestamp>1260558540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This list won't be complete until they list Infocom's "Leather Goddesses of Phobos"</p><p>Talk about interactive, this game was <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leather\_Goddesses\_of\_Phobos" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow"> <i>scratch-n-sniff</i> </a> [wikipedia.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This list wo n't be complete until they list Infocom 's " Leather Goddesses of Phobos " Talk about interactive , this game was scratch-n-sniff [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This list won't be complete until they list Infocom's "Leather Goddesses of Phobos"Talk about interactive, this game was  scratch-n-sniff  [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30400464</id>
	<title>Well, duh!</title>
	<author>ndixon</author>
	<datestamp>1260540000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Obviously, you wouldn't give these games to kids.<p>The article (yeah, I did RTFA) points out that those games are rated for age 17+, so I don't see what the issue is.</p><p>I wouldn't want <i>my</i> kids playing COD-MW2 or L4D2, but to be honest, they wouldn't want to play them anyway - they'd be much happier with the latest cutesy Wii party game, or something for the DS involving ponies.</p><p>Yet again, the mainstream media make the assumption that all games are for kids and are therefore completely shocked to see that some games involve blood, gore and subversive naughtiness.</p><p>Actually, I don't think they're shocked at all. They just think that their readers will be, and that's what sells papers and generates click revenue.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Obviously , you would n't give these games to kids.The article ( yeah , I did RTFA ) points out that those games are rated for age 17 + , so I do n't see what the issue is.I would n't want my kids playing COD-MW2 or L4D2 , but to be honest , they would n't want to play them anyway - they 'd be much happier with the latest cutesy Wii party game , or something for the DS involving ponies.Yet again , the mainstream media make the assumption that all games are for kids and are therefore completely shocked to see that some games involve blood , gore and subversive naughtiness.Actually , I do n't think they 're shocked at all .
They just think that their readers will be , and that 's what sells papers and generates click revenue .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Obviously, you wouldn't give these games to kids.The article (yeah, I did RTFA) points out that those games are rated for age 17+, so I don't see what the issue is.I wouldn't want my kids playing COD-MW2 or L4D2, but to be honest, they wouldn't want to play them anyway - they'd be much happier with the latest cutesy Wii party game, or something for the DS involving ponies.Yet again, the mainstream media make the assumption that all games are for kids and are therefore completely shocked to see that some games involve blood, gore and subversive naughtiness.Actually, I don't think they're shocked at all.
They just think that their readers will be, and that's what sells papers and generates click revenue.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30402920</id>
	<title>Re:Not a particularly helpful summary</title>
	<author>mcvos</author>
	<datestamp>1260552180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Assassin's Creed 2 replaced by Mirror's Edge: I haven't played AC2, but I would probably agree that the original AC is "not for kids". Mirror's Edge doesn't seem outlandish as a replacement; it's not some twee kiddy game and it does contain violence. It's just a bit less "in your face" with it. So no problems with this one.</p></div><p>I haven't played it either, but I just read something about Assassin's Creed's historical accuracy, and I'm very impressed. Especially for a mainstream game. I don't know how much the game actually focuses on the historical parts or whether the focus is more on mindless violence (do you really kill only 9 people in that game?), but if it's done right, I could even see myself encouraging my kids to play it. I love history. Maybe I should give it a try myself.</p><p>GTA on the other hand, yeah, not for kids.</p><p>For Dragon Age (haven't played it yet, but I'm sure I will eventually), the first replacement that came to mind was Drakensang. On the whole it's pretty harmless and wholesome, although it does have a bit too much focus on combat (killing those wolfrats gets tedious after a while), and the women tend to have quite a bit of cleavage. But it's not overly gory or focusing on sexual encounters (like the Witcher. Hoo boy!).</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Assassin 's Creed 2 replaced by Mirror 's Edge : I have n't played AC2 , but I would probably agree that the original AC is " not for kids " .
Mirror 's Edge does n't seem outlandish as a replacement ; it 's not some twee kiddy game and it does contain violence .
It 's just a bit less " in your face " with it .
So no problems with this one.I have n't played it either , but I just read something about Assassin 's Creed 's historical accuracy , and I 'm very impressed .
Especially for a mainstream game .
I do n't know how much the game actually focuses on the historical parts or whether the focus is more on mindless violence ( do you really kill only 9 people in that game ?
) , but if it 's done right , I could even see myself encouraging my kids to play it .
I love history .
Maybe I should give it a try myself.GTA on the other hand , yeah , not for kids.For Dragon Age ( have n't played it yet , but I 'm sure I will eventually ) , the first replacement that came to mind was Drakensang .
On the whole it 's pretty harmless and wholesome , although it does have a bit too much focus on combat ( killing those wolfrats gets tedious after a while ) , and the women tend to have quite a bit of cleavage .
But it 's not overly gory or focusing on sexual encounters ( like the Witcher .
Hoo boy !
) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Assassin's Creed 2 replaced by Mirror's Edge: I haven't played AC2, but I would probably agree that the original AC is "not for kids".
Mirror's Edge doesn't seem outlandish as a replacement; it's not some twee kiddy game and it does contain violence.
It's just a bit less "in your face" with it.
So no problems with this one.I haven't played it either, but I just read something about Assassin's Creed's historical accuracy, and I'm very impressed.
Especially for a mainstream game.
I don't know how much the game actually focuses on the historical parts or whether the focus is more on mindless violence (do you really kill only 9 people in that game?
), but if it's done right, I could even see myself encouraging my kids to play it.
I love history.
Maybe I should give it a try myself.GTA on the other hand, yeah, not for kids.For Dragon Age (haven't played it yet, but I'm sure I will eventually), the first replacement that came to mind was Drakensang.
On the whole it's pretty harmless and wholesome, although it does have a bit too much focus on combat (killing those wolfrats gets tedious after a while), and the women tend to have quite a bit of cleavage.
But it's not overly gory or focusing on sexual encounters (like the Witcher.
Hoo boy!
).
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30400282</id>
	<title>Re:list</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260538200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Many of the games on the alternatives list have exactly the same kind of violence. Hell, in Overlord you're taking control of a evil god like character that controls his minions to destroy and kill enemies, the good people.</p></div><p>Furthermore, in Overlord II you can have a <b>foursome</b>. I think it even gives you an achievement for it.</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLYBGqwT7Tg" title="youtube.com">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLYBGqwT7Tg</a> [youtube.com]</p><p>I don't recall a single other game that allowed you to do that.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Many of the games on the alternatives list have exactly the same kind of violence .
Hell , in Overlord you 're taking control of a evil god like character that controls his minions to destroy and kill enemies , the good people.Furthermore , in Overlord II you can have a foursome .
I think it even gives you an achievement for it.http : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = gLYBGqwT7Tg [ youtube.com ] I do n't recall a single other game that allowed you to do that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Many of the games on the alternatives list have exactly the same kind of violence.
Hell, in Overlord you're taking control of a evil god like character that controls his minions to destroy and kill enemies, the good people.Furthermore, in Overlord II you can have a foursome.
I think it even gives you an achievement for it.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLYBGqwT7Tg [youtube.com]I don't recall a single other game that allowed you to do that.
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	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30400094</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30400190</id>
	<title>Read the ESRB Rating</title>
	<author>c0mpliant</author>
	<datestamp>1260536940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Seriously, anyone who needs to read this review shouldn't have the responsibility of children. A quick look at the ESRB rating of each of the above games will tell you that little Johnny who is 8 shouldn't be playing Dragon Age, GTA or assassins Creed!!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously , anyone who needs to read this review should n't have the responsibility of children .
A quick look at the ESRB rating of each of the above games will tell you that little Johnny who is 8 should n't be playing Dragon Age , GTA or assassins Creed !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously, anyone who needs to read this review shouldn't have the responsibility of children.
A quick look at the ESRB rating of each of the above games will tell you that little Johnny who is 8 shouldn't be playing Dragon Age, GTA or assassins Creed!
!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30400386</id>
	<title>A useful list</title>
	<author>davide marney</author>
	<datestamp>1260539220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You're a parent, an uncle, a grandfather.  You don't play video games.  You want to give something the kid will like.  You hear he's "into" video games.  You step into the local gamer store, and<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p><p>YOU HAVE NO CLUE</p><p>The one thing you want to avoid is buying that game with "blood spurting out of victims' bodies, human carcasses littering the floor, blood-stained walls and floors, and copious screams of torture" (Dead Space: Extraction).  Otherwise, your sister Jenny will have your head on a platter<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... for real.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're a parent , an uncle , a grandfather .
You do n't play video games .
You want to give something the kid will like .
You hear he 's " into " video games .
You step into the local gamer store , and ...YOU HAVE NO CLUEThe one thing you want to avoid is buying that game with " blood spurting out of victims ' bodies , human carcasses littering the floor , blood-stained walls and floors , and copious screams of torture " ( Dead Space : Extraction ) .
Otherwise , your sister Jenny will have your head on a platter ... for real .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're a parent, an uncle, a grandfather.
You don't play video games.
You want to give something the kid will like.
You hear he's "into" video games.
You step into the local gamer store, and ...YOU HAVE NO CLUEThe one thing you want to avoid is buying that game with "blood spurting out of victims' bodies, human carcasses littering the floor, blood-stained walls and floors, and copious screams of torture" (Dead Space: Extraction).
Otherwise, your sister Jenny will have your head on a platter ... for real.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30400208</id>
	<title>Obligatory Quote</title>
	<author>TimeElf1</author>
	<datestamp>1260537180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>
"I mean, if computer games really had any effect on our behavior we would be sitting in some dark room, bobbing our head to monotonous repetitive music while popping pills all night.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>..."
</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>" I mean , if computer games really had any effect on our behavior we would be sitting in some dark room , bobbing our head to monotonous repetitive music while popping pills all night .
... "</tokentext>
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"I mean, if computer games really had any effect on our behavior we would be sitting in some dark room, bobbing our head to monotonous repetitive music while popping pills all night.
..."
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30400498</id>
	<title>Re:list</title>
	<author>meyekul</author>
	<datestamp>1260540420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I bet many of us played games that had gore as teens. They should had have sex too - it's even a natural thing, while violence is not (or shouldn't be).</p></div><p>There was a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leisure\_Suit\_Larry\_(series)" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">whole series</a> [wikipedia.org] of games based pretty much entirely on sex (or the pursuit of) back when I was a kid.  I don't think I've had the simulated uncomfortable experience of purchasing a condom in a game since then...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I bet many of us played games that had gore as teens .
They should had have sex too - it 's even a natural thing , while violence is not ( or should n't be ) .There was a whole series [ wikipedia.org ] of games based pretty much entirely on sex ( or the pursuit of ) back when I was a kid .
I do n't think I 've had the simulated uncomfortable experience of purchasing a condom in a game since then.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bet many of us played games that had gore as teens.
They should had have sex too - it's even a natural thing, while violence is not (or shouldn't be).There was a whole series [wikipedia.org] of games based pretty much entirely on sex (or the pursuit of) back when I was a kid.
I don't think I've had the simulated uncomfortable experience of purchasing a condom in a game since then...
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30403478</id>
	<title>Re:list</title>
	<author>Jaeph</author>
	<datestamp>1260554160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Violence is natural.  You may not think it civilized, or appropriate behavior (I sure don't), but it is most certainly natural.</p><p>-Jeff</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Violence is natural .
You may not think it civilized , or appropriate behavior ( I sure do n't ) , but it is most certainly natural.-Jeff</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Violence is natural.
You may not think it civilized, or appropriate behavior (I sure don't), but it is most certainly natural.-Jeff</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30402606</id>
	<title>Re:Katamari Damacy is still good</title>
	<author>Xtravar</author>
	<datestamp>1260550920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And they have versions for all the new consoles now.  Beautiful Katamari for 360 and Katamari Forever for Wii/PS3.  If you played the previous ones, you won't find much new, sadly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And they have versions for all the new consoles now .
Beautiful Katamari for 360 and Katamari Forever for Wii/PS3 .
If you played the previous ones , you wo n't find much new , sadly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And they have versions for all the new consoles now.
Beautiful Katamari for 360 and Katamari Forever for Wii/PS3.
If you played the previous ones, you won't find much new, sadly.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30401416</id>
	<title>six legged creatures</title>
	<author>amoeba1911</author>
	<datestamp>1260545460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I was reading about one of the recommended games on the <a href="http://www.commonsensemedia.org/game-reviews/deadly-creatures/details" title="commonsensemedia.org">linked site</a> [commonsensemedia.org] and my brain exploded when I read "six-legged creatures: a scorpion and tarantula"</p><p>By the way, Braid is a great puzzle game.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I was reading about one of the recommended games on the linked site [ commonsensemedia.org ] and my brain exploded when I read " six-legged creatures : a scorpion and tarantula " By the way , Braid is a great puzzle game .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was reading about one of the recommended games on the linked site [commonsensemedia.org] and my brain exploded when I read "six-legged creatures: a scorpion and tarantula"By the way, Braid is a great puzzle game.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30400106</id>
	<title>Here we go again....</title>
	<author>El Lobo</author>
	<datestamp>1260535800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Another list,  product of the neomoral of today...<p>
Interesting, with all the graphic violence in Modern Warfare 2, it's funny that the only objectionable aspect of it is that the player can opt to go "undercover as an enemy terrorist."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Another list , product of the neomoral of today.. . Interesting , with all the graphic violence in Modern Warfare 2 , it 's funny that the only objectionable aspect of it is that the player can opt to go " undercover as an enemy terrorist .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Another list,  product of the neomoral of today...
Interesting, with all the graphic violence in Modern Warfare 2, it's funny that the only objectionable aspect of it is that the player can opt to go "undercover as an enemy terrorist.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30403848</id>
	<title>While we're at it</title>
	<author>Locke2005</author>
	<datestamp>1260555540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>Grimm's Fairy Tales</i> should be banned due to themes of excessive violence, cannabalism, and murder. Listening to or reading these stories can't possibly be good for impressionable young children! Also, <i>The Holy Bible</i> contains depictions of murder, adultery, rape, and incest -- again, definitely not suitable for children. (Similar arguments apply to the Quran, the Talmud, and the Bhagavad Gita.)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Grimm 's Fairy Tales should be banned due to themes of excessive violence , cannabalism , and murder .
Listening to or reading these stories ca n't possibly be good for impressionable young children !
Also , The Holy Bible contains depictions of murder , adultery , rape , and incest -- again , definitely not suitable for children .
( Similar arguments apply to the Quran , the Talmud , and the Bhagavad Gita .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Grimm's Fairy Tales should be banned due to themes of excessive violence, cannabalism, and murder.
Listening to or reading these stories can't possibly be good for impressionable young children!
Also, The Holy Bible contains depictions of murder, adultery, rape, and incest -- again, definitely not suitable for children.
(Similar arguments apply to the Quran, the Talmud, and the Bhagavad Gita.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30400638</id>
	<title>Re:Not a particularly helpful summary</title>
	<author>drinkypoo</author>
	<datestamp>1260541320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>GTA IV for Batman actually makes a lot of sense. Neither one is about story (or if GTA IV is about story, it's an epic failure) and both are about the "did you see that" factor (at least once it comes time to get some replay value.)</p><p><div class="quote"><p>On this basis, did the article summary really need to take the tone that it did?</p></div><p>I'd say you must be new here, but someone else beat me to it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>GTA IV for Batman actually makes a lot of sense .
Neither one is about story ( or if GTA IV is about story , it 's an epic failure ) and both are about the " did you see that " factor ( at least once it comes time to get some replay value .
) On this basis , did the article summary really need to take the tone that it did ? I 'd say you must be new here , but someone else beat me to it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>GTA IV for Batman actually makes a lot of sense.
Neither one is about story (or if GTA IV is about story, it's an epic failure) and both are about the "did you see that" factor (at least once it comes time to get some replay value.
)On this basis, did the article summary really need to take the tone that it did?I'd say you must be new here, but someone else beat me to it.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30401210</id>
	<title>synthetic offspring?</title>
	<author>spyrochaete</author>
	<datestamp>1260544440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>FTA:</p><p>[blockquote] if you need gift ideas for the surly, pale teenager in your home whose body contains more plastic then your average d20[/blockquote]</p><p>What on earth is this supposed to mean?  Is there some kind of gamer fad to get nose jobs or something?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>FTA : [ blockquote ] if you need gift ideas for the surly , pale teenager in your home whose body contains more plastic then your average d20 [ /blockquote ] What on earth is this supposed to mean ?
Is there some kind of gamer fad to get nose jobs or something ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>FTA:[blockquote] if you need gift ideas for the surly, pale teenager in your home whose body contains more plastic then your average d20[/blockquote]What on earth is this supposed to mean?
Is there some kind of gamer fad to get nose jobs or something?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30400404</id>
	<title>Katamari Damacy is still good</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260539400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you don't have it, get it now. Child-friendly, and great for adults too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you do n't have it , get it now .
Child-friendly , and great for adults too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you don't have it, get it now.
Child-friendly, and great for adults too.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30402202</id>
	<title>Re:list</title>
	<author>mehemiah</author>
	<datestamp>1260549060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>you should have alternated the alternatives, like they did in the original article, for maximum effect.  Then we can see the close comparison of Overlord 2 over L4D  or Battlefield over  COD</htmltext>
<tokenext>you should have alternated the alternatives , like they did in the original article , for maximum effect .
Then we can see the close comparison of Overlord 2 over L4D or Battlefield over COD</tokentext>
<sentencetext>you should have alternated the alternatives, like they did in the original article, for maximum effect.
Then we can see the close comparison of Overlord 2 over L4D  or Battlefield over  COD</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30406060</id>
	<title>Re:list</title>
	<author>Chyeld</author>
	<datestamp>1260565140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wonder if they realize one of the mini-objectives in Overlord II is to pick one of three (or possibly all three if you play it right) mistresses to have a roll in the hay with...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder if they realize one of the mini-objectives in Overlord II is to pick one of three ( or possibly all three if you play it right ) mistresses to have a roll in the hay with.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder if they realize one of the mini-objectives in Overlord II is to pick one of three (or possibly all three if you play it right) mistresses to have a roll in the hay with...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30400216</id>
	<title>Re:list</title>
	<author>Grr</author>
	<datestamp>1260537300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Many of the games on the alternatives list have exactly the same kind of violence.</p> </div><p>If by 'the same kind of violence' you mean 'a different kind of violence'. <br>
The NY times article refers to the ESRB rating. I'm pretty sure the article with the alternatives went by those. In your example the alternative, Overlord II, is rated Teen while its counterpart, Left 4 Dead 2, is rated Mature. <br>
There are <a href="http://www.esrb.org/ratings/ratings\_guide.jsp" title="esrb.org" rel="nofollow">standards</a> [esrb.org] for these ratings. Now you may disagree with the standards, but dismemberment, animated blood and gore fall in the M category. Morality choices, like playing on the side of evil in Overlord, are not totally excluded from the standard, but usually have less impact.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Many of the games on the alternatives list have exactly the same kind of violence .
If by 'the same kind of violence ' you mean 'a different kind of violence' .
The NY times article refers to the ESRB rating .
I 'm pretty sure the article with the alternatives went by those .
In your example the alternative , Overlord II , is rated Teen while its counterpart , Left 4 Dead 2 , is rated Mature .
There are standards [ esrb.org ] for these ratings .
Now you may disagree with the standards , but dismemberment , animated blood and gore fall in the M category .
Morality choices , like playing on the side of evil in Overlord , are not totally excluded from the standard , but usually have less impact .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Many of the games on the alternatives list have exactly the same kind of violence.
If by 'the same kind of violence' you mean 'a different kind of violence'.
The NY times article refers to the ESRB rating.
I'm pretty sure the article with the alternatives went by those.
In your example the alternative, Overlord II, is rated Teen while its counterpart, Left 4 Dead 2, is rated Mature.
There are standards [esrb.org] for these ratings.
Now you may disagree with the standards, but dismemberment, animated blood and gore fall in the M category.
Morality choices, like playing on the side of evil in Overlord, are not totally excluded from the standard, but usually have less impact.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30401340</id>
	<title>Re:list</title>
	<author>jeffehobbs</author>
	<datestamp>1260545040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I dunno, that dangling L shape has given me some pretty salacious ideas from time to time. Just to be safe, I'd ban Tetris too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I dunno , that dangling L shape has given me some pretty salacious ideas from time to time .
Just to be safe , I 'd ban Tetris too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I dunno, that dangling L shape has given me some pretty salacious ideas from time to time.
Just to be safe, I'd ban Tetris too.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30400790</id>
	<title>Re:list</title>
	<author>darthvader100</author>
	<datestamp>1260542280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Tetris is a comunist look at destroying the building blocks of modern society.  This is why the straight piece which clears all those lines is RED.<br> <br>

Don't let the simple graphics fool you.<br> <br>

It could also be a FPS in which you play a block trying to kill other blocks and keep respawning as new blocks every few minutes<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:R - the tongue in cheek smilie</htmltext>
<tokenext>Tetris is a comunist look at destroying the building blocks of modern society .
This is why the straight piece which clears all those lines is RED .
Do n't let the simple graphics fool you .
It could also be a FPS in which you play a block trying to kill other blocks and keep respawning as new blocks every few minutes : R - the tongue in cheek smilie</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tetris is a comunist look at destroying the building blocks of modern society.
This is why the straight piece which clears all those lines is RED.
Don't let the simple graphics fool you.
It could also be a FPS in which you play a block trying to kill other blocks and keep respawning as new blocks every few minutes :R - the tongue in cheek smilie</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30403078</id>
	<title>Re:Read the ESRB Rating</title>
	<author>Hatta</author>
	<datestamp>1260552660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Seriously, anyone who needs to read this review shouldn't have the responsibility of children. A quick look at the ESRB rating</i></p><p>Anybody who lets the ESRB decide what's appropriate for their child shouldn't have the responsibility of children.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously , anyone who needs to read this review should n't have the responsibility of children .
A quick look at the ESRB ratingAnybody who lets the ESRB decide what 's appropriate for their child should n't have the responsibility of children .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously, anyone who needs to read this review shouldn't have the responsibility of children.
A quick look at the ESRB ratingAnybody who lets the ESRB decide what's appropriate for their child shouldn't have the responsibility of children.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30403232</id>
	<title>Re:Not a particularly helpful summary</title>
	<author>plague3106</author>
	<datestamp>1260553200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Actually, the article is far less irritating than the summary had led me to believe. Yes, it points out 10 games that are not recommended for children and teens. But it isn't trying to get the games banned (the original commonsensemedia article actually points out that these are good games), just trying to help parents make informed decisions.</i></p><p>What?  The article is useless.  Parents already have a big fucking M rating on the box to explain to them its not for kids.  This article is just trying to inflame parents against the evil video games.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , the article is far less irritating than the summary had led me to believe .
Yes , it points out 10 games that are not recommended for children and teens .
But it is n't trying to get the games banned ( the original commonsensemedia article actually points out that these are good games ) , just trying to help parents make informed decisions.What ?
The article is useless .
Parents already have a big fucking M rating on the box to explain to them its not for kids .
This article is just trying to inflame parents against the evil video games .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, the article is far less irritating than the summary had led me to believe.
Yes, it points out 10 games that are not recommended for children and teens.
But it isn't trying to get the games banned (the original commonsensemedia article actually points out that these are good games), just trying to help parents make informed decisions.What?
The article is useless.
Parents already have a big fucking M rating on the box to explain to them its not for kids.
This article is just trying to inflame parents against the evil video games.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30402332</id>
	<title>Is this not proof?</title>
	<author>flyneye</author>
	<datestamp>1260549660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is this not proof of my statement in posts a few days ago that the New York Times is as equally reliable a news source as the National Enquirer?<br>Is it any surprise that Network news all the way to print media is playing to lowbrow "Maury Povich" interests just to get anyone to look at them in light of their imminent  demise and publicly heard death rattles?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is this not proof of my statement in posts a few days ago that the New York Times is as equally reliable a news source as the National Enquirer ? Is it any surprise that Network news all the way to print media is playing to lowbrow " Maury Povich " interests just to get anyone to look at them in light of their imminent demise and publicly heard death rattles ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is this not proof of my statement in posts a few days ago that the New York Times is as equally reliable a news source as the National Enquirer?Is it any surprise that Network news all the way to print media is playing to lowbrow "Maury Povich" interests just to get anyone to look at them in light of their imminent  demise and publicly heard death rattles?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30404640</id>
	<title>Re:list</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260558600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You can have a 4 some in Dragon Age.  You, 2 party members, and an NPC in Denerim.  Isabel in the whorehouse isn't it?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You can have a 4 some in Dragon Age .
You , 2 party members , and an NPC in Denerim .
Isabel in the whorehouse is n't it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can have a 4 some in Dragon Age.
You, 2 party members, and an NPC in Denerim.
Isabel in the whorehouse isn't it?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30401764</id>
	<title>Re:Not a particularly helpful summary</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260547080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>These are two lists of ten games, not direct replacements. They aren't saying get Arkham Asylum instead of GTA IV, they are saying instead of picking from list 1, pick from list 2.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>These are two lists of ten games , not direct replacements .
They are n't saying get Arkham Asylum instead of GTA IV , they are saying instead of picking from list 1 , pick from list 2 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>These are two lists of ten games, not direct replacements.
They aren't saying get Arkham Asylum instead of GTA IV, they are saying instead of picking from list 1, pick from list 2.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30400542</id>
	<title>Oblig.</title>
	<author>TapeCutter</author>
	<datestamp>1260540720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>"Actually, the article is far less irritating than the summary had led me to believe."</i>
<br> <br>
You must be new around here.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Actually , the article is far less irritating than the summary had led me to believe .
" You must be new around here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Actually, the article is far less irritating than the summary had led me to believe.
"
 
You must be new around here.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30401058</id>
	<title>Most of you miss the point.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260543780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>We've had friends/neighbors/family that have let their first grader watch CSI.  Movies, such as "Transformers" (it's rated PG-13 for a reason folks) are being watched by my in-law's five-year-old.  I've seen many well-meaning grandmas in the store buying whatever music/movie/video game their sweet little sociopath of a grandchild has on their wishlist.</p><p>While I don't necessarily believe that watching hours of video game/movie killings makes little Johnny a mass murderer, it does do "something", and at the very least desensitizes them to what they see.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We 've had friends/neighbors/family that have let their first grader watch CSI .
Movies , such as " Transformers " ( it 's rated PG-13 for a reason folks ) are being watched by my in-law 's five-year-old .
I 've seen many well-meaning grandmas in the store buying whatever music/movie/video game their sweet little sociopath of a grandchild has on their wishlist.While I do n't necessarily believe that watching hours of video game/movie killings makes little Johnny a mass murderer , it does do " something " , and at the very least desensitizes them to what they see .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We've had friends/neighbors/family that have let their first grader watch CSI.
Movies, such as "Transformers" (it's rated PG-13 for a reason folks) are being watched by my in-law's five-year-old.
I've seen many well-meaning grandmas in the store buying whatever music/movie/video game their sweet little sociopath of a grandchild has on their wishlist.While I don't necessarily believe that watching hours of video game/movie killings makes little Johnny a mass murderer, it does do "something", and at the very least desensitizes them to what they see.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30401312</id>
	<title>Re:Here we go again....</title>
	<author>spyrochaete</author>
	<datestamp>1260544920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Modern parents need to enforce moralistic killing quotas.  x number of people need to be shot dead, so it's the onus of our children to ensure it's the bad guys from other countries who take the brunt.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Modern parents need to enforce moralistic killing quotas .
x number of people need to be shot dead , so it 's the onus of our children to ensure it 's the bad guys from other countries who take the brunt .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Modern parents need to enforce moralistic killing quotas.
x number of people need to be shot dead, so it's the onus of our children to ensure it's the bad guys from other countries who take the brunt.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30400214</id>
	<title>I agree with Demon's Souls being on the list...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260537240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not because of its content being age inappropriate for children...but because of it's difficulty. While the game is tremendously rewarding if you invest time in it, the game can be furiously frustrating if you aren't a veteran gamer. Casual gamers, especially younger gamers, should avoid this game without question.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not because of its content being age inappropriate for children...but because of it 's difficulty .
While the game is tremendously rewarding if you invest time in it , the game can be furiously frustrating if you are n't a veteran gamer .
Casual gamers , especially younger gamers , should avoid this game without question .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not because of its content being age inappropriate for children...but because of it's difficulty.
While the game is tremendously rewarding if you invest time in it, the game can be furiously frustrating if you aren't a veteran gamer.
Casual gamers, especially younger gamers, should avoid this game without question.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30400752</id>
	<title>Re:list</title>
	<author>Bakkster</author>
	<datestamp>1260542040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Dragon Age: Origins<br>
Alternative: Braid
</p><p>Left 4 Dead 2<br>
Alternative: Overlord II</p></div><p>Anyone else think these are the worst possible alternatives?  "My son asked for a fantasy RPG and a zombie apocalypse FPS, so I got him a 2D platformer and a 3rd person strategy game.  I done good!"</p></div>
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<tokenext>Dragon Age : Origins Alternative : Braid Left 4 Dead 2 Alternative : Overlord IIAnyone else think these are the worst possible alternatives ?
" My son asked for a fantasy RPG and a zombie apocalypse FPS , so I got him a 2D platformer and a 3rd person strategy game .
I done good !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dragon Age: Origins
Alternative: Braid
Left 4 Dead 2
Alternative: Overlord IIAnyone else think these are the worst possible alternatives?
"My son asked for a fantasy RPG and a zombie apocalypse FPS, so I got him a 2D platformer and a 3rd person strategy game.
I done good!
"
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30400952</id>
	<title>Define "proven"</title>
	<author>stewbacca</author>
	<datestamp>1260543180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>FTA:  </p><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr></p><div class="quote"><p>...things that have been proven to have a negative effect on children</p></div><p>This tired argument again? I won a writing award when I was 17 debunking the myth that video games and violent cartoons have a "negative effect" on kids. Of course when I was 17, video games were:  Zork, Pac-Man, Donkey Kong (super violent and sexist), and Asteroids.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>FTA : ...things that have been proven to have a negative effect on childrenThis tired argument again ?
I won a writing award when I was 17 debunking the myth that video games and violent cartoons have a " negative effect " on kids .
Of course when I was 17 , video games were : Zork , Pac-Man , Donkey Kong ( super violent and sexist ) , and Asteroids .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>FTA:   ...things that have been proven to have a negative effect on childrenThis tired argument again?
I won a writing award when I was 17 debunking the myth that video games and violent cartoons have a "negative effect" on kids.
Of course when I was 17, video games were:  Zork, Pac-Man, Donkey Kong (super violent and sexist), and Asteroids.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30401096</id>
	<title>Braid?</title>
	<author>sidesh0w</author>
	<datestamp>1260543900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Are they really recommending <a href="http://braid-game.com/" title="braid-game.com">Braid</a> [braid-game.com] as a "kid-friendly" game? <i> <a href="http://www.commonsensemedia.org/game-reviews/braid" title="commonsensemedia.org">Braid?</a> [commonsensemedia.org] </i>  I'm generally impressed with Common Sense Media's take on reviews in that they look at all aspects of a movie or game when judging its appropriateness.  But with Braid, the themes of the game are going to be way over the heads of most kids.  I guess if your 12-year old really wanted to play it, why not.  But as <i>High Fidelity</i> taught us there are other dangers of exposing impressionable teens to this kind of thing:<br>
<em>What came first, the music or the misery? People worry about kids playing with guns, or watching violent videos, that some sort of culture of violence will take them over. Nobody worries about kids listening to thousands, literally thousands of songs about heartbreak, rejection, pain, misery and loss. Did I listen to pop music because I was miserable? Or was I miserable because I listened to pop music?</em></htmltext>
<tokenext>Are they really recommending Braid [ braid-game.com ] as a " kid-friendly " game ?
Braid ? [ commonsensemedia.org ] I 'm generally impressed with Common Sense Media 's take on reviews in that they look at all aspects of a movie or game when judging its appropriateness .
But with Braid , the themes of the game are going to be way over the heads of most kids .
I guess if your 12-year old really wanted to play it , why not .
But as High Fidelity taught us there are other dangers of exposing impressionable teens to this kind of thing : What came first , the music or the misery ?
People worry about kids playing with guns , or watching violent videos , that some sort of culture of violence will take them over .
Nobody worries about kids listening to thousands , literally thousands of songs about heartbreak , rejection , pain , misery and loss .
Did I listen to pop music because I was miserable ?
Or was I miserable because I listened to pop music ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are they really recommending Braid [braid-game.com] as a "kid-friendly" game?
Braid? [commonsensemedia.org]   I'm generally impressed with Common Sense Media's take on reviews in that they look at all aspects of a movie or game when judging its appropriateness.
But with Braid, the themes of the game are going to be way over the heads of most kids.
I guess if your 12-year old really wanted to play it, why not.
But as High Fidelity taught us there are other dangers of exposing impressionable teens to this kind of thing:
What came first, the music or the misery?
People worry about kids playing with guns, or watching violent videos, that some sort of culture of violence will take them over.
Nobody worries about kids listening to thousands, literally thousands of songs about heartbreak, rejection, pain, misery and loss.
Did I listen to pop music because I was miserable?
Or was I miserable because I listened to pop music?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30401450</id>
	<title>Re:Katamari Damacy is still good</title>
	<author>spyrochaete</author>
	<datestamp>1260545580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If you don't have it, get it now. Child-friendly, and great for adults too.</p></div><p>I agree with this 100\%.  This game is all about identifying seemingly insurmountable obstacles and planning incremental steps to surpass them.  It's a great lesson to reinforce.</p></div>
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<tokenext>If you do n't have it , get it now .
Child-friendly , and great for adults too.I agree with this 100 \ % .
This game is all about identifying seemingly insurmountable obstacles and planning incremental steps to surpass them .
It 's a great lesson to reinforce .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you don't have it, get it now.
Child-friendly, and great for adults too.I agree with this 100\%.
This game is all about identifying seemingly insurmountable obstacles and planning incremental steps to surpass them.
It's a great lesson to reinforce.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30402120</id>
	<title>Re:list</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260548700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just reminds me that children are being steered away from valuable life training for the future. I pay attention to the real news at:<br>http://www.theonion.com/content/video/are\_violent\_video\_games</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just reminds me that children are being steered away from valuable life training for the future .
I pay attention to the real news at : http : //www.theonion.com/content/video/are \ _violent \ _video \ _games</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just reminds me that children are being steered away from valuable life training for the future.
I pay attention to the real news at:http://www.theonion.com/content/video/are\_violent\_video\_games</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30400532</id>
	<title>Re:list</title>
	<author>Opportunist</author>
	<datestamp>1260540660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you ban all sex and violence from newspapers or TV, we end up with VERY thin papers and a lot of test pattern TV.</p><p>Why's games different, I ask?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you ban all sex and violence from newspapers or TV , we end up with VERY thin papers and a lot of test pattern TV.Why 's games different , I ask ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you ban all sex and violence from newspapers or TV, we end up with VERY thin papers and a lot of test pattern TV.Why's games different, I ask?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30400540</id>
	<title>Re:list</title>
	<author>loutr</author>
	<datestamp>1260540720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And some of those "alternatives" don't even have anything in common with the original game : I can't see any similarities between Braid and Dragon Age, or between Dead Space and Deadly Creatures.</htmltext>
<tokenext>And some of those " alternatives " do n't even have anything in common with the original game : I ca n't see any similarities between Braid and Dragon Age , or between Dead Space and Deadly Creatures .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And some of those "alternatives" don't even have anything in common with the original game : I can't see any similarities between Braid and Dragon Age, or between Dead Space and Deadly Creatures.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30407580</id>
	<title>Re:list</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260529380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>They should had have sex too - it's even a natural thing, while violence is not (or shouldn't be).</p></div><p>Violence is most definitely natural, especially to primates.  The common chimpanzee can go into a blood craze and kill other primates for food, such as monkeys and lemurs.  Sex is more natural, of course, every person on Earth is the result of sex, but not necessarily violence.  But don't fool yourself.  Violence is as much a part of being human as sex and intelligence.  As a civilized society, however, we can obviously judge the merits of what's natural and make arbitrary claims such as: "violence is bad" "naked people are awesome".</p></div>
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<tokenext>They should had have sex too - it 's even a natural thing , while violence is not ( or should n't be ) .Violence is most definitely natural , especially to primates .
The common chimpanzee can go into a blood craze and kill other primates for food , such as monkeys and lemurs .
Sex is more natural , of course , every person on Earth is the result of sex , but not necessarily violence .
But do n't fool yourself .
Violence is as much a part of being human as sex and intelligence .
As a civilized society , however , we can obviously judge the merits of what 's natural and make arbitrary claims such as : " violence is bad " " naked people are awesome " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They should had have sex too - it's even a natural thing, while violence is not (or shouldn't be).Violence is most definitely natural, especially to primates.
The common chimpanzee can go into a blood craze and kill other primates for food, such as monkeys and lemurs.
Sex is more natural, of course, every person on Earth is the result of sex, but not necessarily violence.
But don't fool yourself.
Violence is as much a part of being human as sex and intelligence.
As a civilized society, however, we can obviously judge the merits of what's natural and make arbitrary claims such as: "violence is bad" "naked people are awesome".
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30400676</id>
	<title>Re:list</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260541500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dragon Age is on the list if you need a game where you can do that (no spoilers though)... and get achievements for "conquests"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dragon Age is on the list if you need a game where you can do that ( no spoilers though ) ... and get achievements for " conquests "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dragon Age is on the list if you need a game where you can do that (no spoilers though)... and get achievements for "conquests"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30400554</id>
	<title>Hmmmmmm...... I'm curious</title>
	<author>Opportunist</author>
	<datestamp>1260540780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If someone has too much spare time on their hands, maybe they can find out who are the studios/publishers to those games, maybe there's a pattern to the "avoid"/"get" list? Just curious...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If someone has too much spare time on their hands , maybe they can find out who are the studios/publishers to those games , maybe there 's a pattern to the " avoid " / " get " list ?
Just curious.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If someone has too much spare time on their hands, maybe they can find out who are the studios/publishers to those games, maybe there's a pattern to the "avoid"/"get" list?
Just curious...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30430278</id>
	<title>Re:Not a particularly helpful summary</title>
	<author>Jedi Alec</author>
	<datestamp>1260802020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hope he(?) enjoys the gay sex scene!</p><p>Actually, better to just play with a female character, more fun that way anyway.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hope he ( ?
) enjoys the gay sex scene ! Actually , better to just play with a female character , more fun that way anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hope he(?
) enjoys the gay sex scene!Actually, better to just play with a female character, more fun that way anyway.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30400620</id>
	<title>Ohhhh, what I'd pay to be there on xmas eve...</title>
	<author>Opportunist</author>
	<datestamp>1260541200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...when the kids open their presents and find out they got nothing nearly close to what they wanted, maybe even the game that everyone in their class already turned up their nose at.</p><p>Yeah, it sure gonna be a peaceful, holy night. Well, ok, it wouldn't be for them either way, since L4D2 sure ain't peaceful and anything but holy, but at least the rest of the family would have some peace.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...when the kids open their presents and find out they got nothing nearly close to what they wanted , maybe even the game that everyone in their class already turned up their nose at.Yeah , it sure gon na be a peaceful , holy night .
Well , ok , it would n't be for them either way , since L4D2 sure ai n't peaceful and anything but holy , but at least the rest of the family would have some peace .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...when the kids open their presents and find out they got nothing nearly close to what they wanted, maybe even the game that everyone in their class already turned up their nose at.Yeah, it sure gonna be a peaceful, holy night.
Well, ok, it wouldn't be for them either way, since L4D2 sure ain't peaceful and anything but holy, but at least the rest of the family would have some peace.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30400980</id>
	<title>Think of the Dragons!</title>
	<author>stewbacca</author>
	<datestamp>1260543360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>the game features combat, decapitations and swords plunged into the chests of both people and <b>dragons</b>.</p></div></div>
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<tokenext>the game features combat , decapitations and swords plunged into the chests of both people and dragons .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the game features combat, decapitations and swords plunged into the chests of both people and dragons.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30402050</id>
	<title>Re:list</title>
	<author>PopeRatzo</author>
	<datestamp>1260548460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>animated blood and gore fall in the M category</p></div></blockquote><p>M for "Mmmmm..."</p><p>We all know how effective the X or M ratings are for movies.  If you're 16 and at the Cineplex Engorgia, are you going to go to see the film with the big "R" or the one with the "GP-13"?</p><p>The GP stands for "Good Picture" and the "R" stands for "Really Good Picture".  If you're lucky enough to find NC-17, it means there are "<b>N</b>o <b>C</b>lothes on the 17 year-old Girls".</p></div>
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<tokenext>animated blood and gore fall in the M categoryM for " Mmmmm... " We all know how effective the X or M ratings are for movies .
If you 're 16 and at the Cineplex Engorgia , are you going to go to see the film with the big " R " or the one with the " GP-13 " ? The GP stands for " Good Picture " and the " R " stands for " Really Good Picture " .
If you 're lucky enough to find NC-17 , it means there are " No Clothes on the 17 year-old Girls " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>animated blood and gore fall in the M categoryM for "Mmmmm..."We all know how effective the X or M ratings are for movies.
If you're 16 and at the Cineplex Engorgia, are you going to go to see the film with the big "R" or the one with the "GP-13"?The GP stands for "Good Picture" and the "R" stands for "Really Good Picture".
If you're lucky enough to find NC-17, it means there are "No Clothes on the 17 year-old Girls".
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30400380</id>
	<title>Oh the Irony within the first sentence....</title>
	<author>Jackie\_Chan\_Fan</author>
	<datestamp>1260539160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>"When it comes to video entertainment, my daughter still prefers wholesome sports, arcade and music-themed games."</p></div></blockquote><p>"Sports games" arent exactly "wholesome". More people die or get injurred playing highschool football and its been apart of of culture for a long time. It's also heavily supported by your local public school and the parents within your community.</p><p>I dont know about your town, but around here, we're famous for shoving a pine cone up a highschool football players asshole. (National news story) The poor kid has been far more damaged by football, than videogames. OH I know it wasnt on the field, but does that really matter? If you want on the feild, look up the recent college basketball player that broke his spine or the deaths that have taken place on the highschool football field.</p><p>NEXT</p><p>Music themed games? You mean those games with thrusting pelvises and celebrity worship? Celebrities that do massive amounts of drugs, pay professional hookers, and use the naughty words in their music?</p><p>Not wholesome either.</p><p>NEXT</p><p>"Arcade"</p><p>Lets hope the author of this article doesnt recommend UNO on xbox live, for children... Can you say "Cock pics?"</p><p>NEXT...</p><p>Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 is F'n incredible. OK Perhaps i dont recommend it for the incredibly young, but its just a game people. If you're afraid that a videogame will turn your child into a murderer, you should be praying Santa brings the kid some new parents that will teach their child what right and wrong is, and what entertainment is... and what REAL WAR means. It should be easy now, if only the news media actually covered the war. Perhaps the New York Times has better things to write about, like what you should and shouldnt be doing as a parent.</p><p>Oh well.</p><p>Obama is a fucking sell out.</p><p>SINGLE PAYER UNIVERAL HEALTH CARE NOW....</p><p>The Option is dead. Fuck em all.</p></div>
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<tokenext>" When it comes to video entertainment , my daughter still prefers wholesome sports , arcade and music-themed games .
" " Sports games " arent exactly " wholesome " .
More people die or get injurred playing highschool football and its been apart of of culture for a long time .
It 's also heavily supported by your local public school and the parents within your community.I dont know about your town , but around here , we 're famous for shoving a pine cone up a highschool football players asshole .
( National news story ) The poor kid has been far more damaged by football , than videogames .
OH I know it wasnt on the field , but does that really matter ?
If you want on the feild , look up the recent college basketball player that broke his spine or the deaths that have taken place on the highschool football field.NEXTMusic themed games ?
You mean those games with thrusting pelvises and celebrity worship ?
Celebrities that do massive amounts of drugs , pay professional hookers , and use the naughty words in their music ? Not wholesome either.NEXT " Arcade " Lets hope the author of this article doesnt recommend UNO on xbox live , for children... Can you say " Cock pics ?
" NEXT...Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 is F'n incredible .
OK Perhaps i dont recommend it for the incredibly young , but its just a game people .
If you 're afraid that a videogame will turn your child into a murderer , you should be praying Santa brings the kid some new parents that will teach their child what right and wrong is , and what entertainment is... and what REAL WAR means .
It should be easy now , if only the news media actually covered the war .
Perhaps the New York Times has better things to write about , like what you should and shouldnt be doing as a parent.Oh well.Obama is a fucking sell out.SINGLE PAYER UNIVERAL HEALTH CARE NOW....The Option is dead .
Fuck em all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"When it comes to video entertainment, my daughter still prefers wholesome sports, arcade and music-themed games.
""Sports games" arent exactly "wholesome".
More people die or get injurred playing highschool football and its been apart of of culture for a long time.
It's also heavily supported by your local public school and the parents within your community.I dont know about your town, but around here, we're famous for shoving a pine cone up a highschool football players asshole.
(National news story) The poor kid has been far more damaged by football, than videogames.
OH I know it wasnt on the field, but does that really matter?
If you want on the feild, look up the recent college basketball player that broke his spine or the deaths that have taken place on the highschool football field.NEXTMusic themed games?
You mean those games with thrusting pelvises and celebrity worship?
Celebrities that do massive amounts of drugs, pay professional hookers, and use the naughty words in their music?Not wholesome either.NEXT"Arcade"Lets hope the author of this article doesnt recommend UNO on xbox live, for children... Can you say "Cock pics?
"NEXT...Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 is F'n incredible.
OK Perhaps i dont recommend it for the incredibly young, but its just a game people.
If you're afraid that a videogame will turn your child into a murderer, you should be praying Santa brings the kid some new parents that will teach their child what right and wrong is, and what entertainment is... and what REAL WAR means.
It should be easy now, if only the news media actually covered the war.
Perhaps the New York Times has better things to write about, like what you should and shouldnt be doing as a parent.Oh well.Obama is a fucking sell out.SINGLE PAYER UNIVERAL HEALTH CARE NOW....The Option is dead.
Fuck em all.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30403074</id>
	<title>Re:list</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260552600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually flame away but I agree that this is a good list and article. Parents need to watch what their kids play, watch, and do. It is the responsibility of a parent to ensure a safe and appropriate environment for your child's maturity level. However if your child is mature enough to play the games, then go ahead and buy them.</p><p>One of the biggest enemies we have as adult gamers is parents who let 8-year old kids play GTA. This kind of thing just gives credence to the arguments spewed by Jack Thompson &amp; Friends to get the games outright banned.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually flame away but I agree that this is a good list and article .
Parents need to watch what their kids play , watch , and do .
It is the responsibility of a parent to ensure a safe and appropriate environment for your child 's maturity level .
However if your child is mature enough to play the games , then go ahead and buy them.One of the biggest enemies we have as adult gamers is parents who let 8-year old kids play GTA .
This kind of thing just gives credence to the arguments spewed by Jack Thompson &amp; Friends to get the games outright banned .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually flame away but I agree that this is a good list and article.
Parents need to watch what their kids play, watch, and do.
It is the responsibility of a parent to ensure a safe and appropriate environment for your child's maturity level.
However if your child is mature enough to play the games, then go ahead and buy them.One of the biggest enemies we have as adult gamers is parents who let 8-year old kids play GTA.
This kind of thing just gives credence to the arguments spewed by Jack Thompson &amp; Friends to get the games outright banned.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30401094</id>
	<title>Not news</title>
	<author>z80kid</author>
	<datestamp>1260543900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Smug elitists in NY paper disapprove of entertainment that is most popular with the consumer.<p>
Film at 11.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Smug elitists in NY paper disapprove of entertainment that is most popular with the consumer .
Film at 11 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Smug elitists in NY paper disapprove of entertainment that is most popular with the consumer.
Film at 11.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30402064</id>
	<title>Re:list</title>
	<author>Reapy</author>
	<datestamp>1260548520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If I were a child and had any of those titles replaced with the alternative I would probably start crying<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If I were a child and had any of those titles replaced with the alternative I would probably start crying : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If I were a child and had any of those titles replaced with the alternative I would probably start crying :)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_11_095201.30402624</id>
	<title>Re:list</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260550980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Many of us played NES games as teens. You have exposed your very young age, please get back to class or your crappy IT job, and get off my lawn.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Many of us played NES games as teens .
You have exposed your very young age , please get back to class or your crappy IT job , and get off my lawn .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Many of us played NES games as teens.
You have exposed your very young age, please get back to class or your crappy IT job, and get off my lawn.</sentencetext>
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