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	<title>Anticipated Closure of BitTorrent Sites Spurs Panic Downloads In China</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1260439980000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>hackingbear writes <i>"Beijing Internet users are <a href="http://english.sina.com/technology/2009/1209/292002.html">scrabbling for downloads from BitTorrent</a> websites following speculation that authorities will shut them down as early as this week. Internet experts told <em>China Daily</em> the failure might be caused by an overload of users seeking last-minute free downloads. As the largest BT download website in China with 5 million downloads each year, VeryCD has been on the verge of closure after the State Administration of Radio, Film and Television (SARFT) shut hundreds of similar peer-to-peer file sharing sites, including the 50 million-user BTChina, during the last 10 days in its latest attempt to fight pornography and piracy online."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>hackingbear writes " Beijing Internet users are scrabbling for downloads from BitTorrent websites following speculation that authorities will shut them down as early as this week .
Internet experts told China Daily the failure might be caused by an overload of users seeking last-minute free downloads .
As the largest BT download website in China with 5 million downloads each year , VeryCD has been on the verge of closure after the State Administration of Radio , Film and Television ( SARFT ) shut hundreds of similar peer-to-peer file sharing sites , including the 50 million-user BTChina , during the last 10 days in its latest attempt to fight pornography and piracy online .
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<sentencetext>hackingbear writes "Beijing Internet users are scrabbling for downloads from BitTorrent websites following speculation that authorities will shut them down as early as this week.
Internet experts told China Daily the failure might be caused by an overload of users seeking last-minute free downloads.
As the largest BT download website in China with 5 million downloads each year, VeryCD has been on the verge of closure after the State Administration of Radio, Film and Television (SARFT) shut hundreds of similar peer-to-peer file sharing sites, including the 50 million-user BTChina, during the last 10 days in its latest attempt to fight pornography and piracy online.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30395884</id>
	<title>Neato</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260445980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Advisor: "Sir, we don't need to stop 100\% of Pirating sites, we just need to stop the top 50\% so that the underlying 50\% are so overburdened by requests that they can't function! It's like a DDOS attack without hacking!"</p><p>Hu Jintao: "Hooray! Promotions for everybody!"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Advisor : " Sir , we do n't need to stop 100 \ % of Pirating sites , we just need to stop the top 50 \ % so that the underlying 50 \ % are so overburdened by requests that they ca n't function !
It 's like a DDOS attack without hacking !
" Hu Jintao : " Hooray !
Promotions for everybody !
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<sentencetext>Advisor: "Sir, we don't need to stop 100\% of Pirating sites, we just need to stop the top 50\% so that the underlying 50\% are so overburdened by requests that they can't function!
It's like a DDOS attack without hacking!
"Hu Jintao: "Hooray!
Promotions for everybody!
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30396456</id>
	<title>Re:So, Essentially</title>
	<author>Kjella</author>
	<datestamp>1260448440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Actually according to Chinese media this crack focuses on eradicating pornography.</p></div><p>Hopefully it'll be the beginning of the end for the Chinese government - just for the opportunity to name it "The pr0n revolution".</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually according to Chinese media this crack focuses on eradicating pornography.Hopefully it 'll be the beginning of the end for the Chinese government - just for the opportunity to name it " The pr0n revolution " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually according to Chinese media this crack focuses on eradicating pornography.Hopefully it'll be the beginning of the end for the Chinese government - just for the opportunity to name it "The pr0n revolution".
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30398386</id>
	<title>Re:So, Essentially</title>
	<author>Jeeeb</author>
	<datestamp>1260466320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Oh great this again.<br> <br>

China is fucking huge. It's law enforcement problems are fucking huge. If you'd care to get a bit more informed before posting then here is a good starting point: <a href="http://www.eastasiaforum.org/2009/12/03/trial-at-chinas-soprano-city-and-campaign-style-justice/#more-8229" title="eastasiaforum.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.eastasiaforum.org/2009/12/03/trial-at-chinas-soprano-city-and-campaign-style-justice/#more-8229</a> [eastasiaforum.org] They've got more important things to worry about than piracy.<br> <br>

Piracy itself is basically opportunism. Western people do it as well. It doesn't require some Chinese conspiracy to see why it would happen in China as well.<br> <br>

Finally, I've seen VeryCD before. A large part of the content was Chinese. Doesn't seem they were particularly worried about that either.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh great this again .
China is fucking huge .
It 's law enforcement problems are fucking huge .
If you 'd care to get a bit more informed before posting then here is a good starting point : http : //www.eastasiaforum.org/2009/12/03/trial-at-chinas-soprano-city-and-campaign-style-justice/ # more-8229 [ eastasiaforum.org ] They 've got more important things to worry about than piracy .
Piracy itself is basically opportunism .
Western people do it as well .
It does n't require some Chinese conspiracy to see why it would happen in China as well .
Finally , I 've seen VeryCD before .
A large part of the content was Chinese .
Does n't seem they were particularly worried about that either .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh great this again.
China is fucking huge.
It's law enforcement problems are fucking huge.
If you'd care to get a bit more informed before posting then here is a good starting point: http://www.eastasiaforum.org/2009/12/03/trial-at-chinas-soprano-city-and-campaign-style-justice/#more-8229 [eastasiaforum.org] They've got more important things to worry about than piracy.
Piracy itself is basically opportunism.
Western people do it as well.
It doesn't require some Chinese conspiracy to see why it would happen in China as well.
Finally, I've seen VeryCD before.
A large part of the content was Chinese.
Doesn't seem they were particularly worried about that either.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30397482</id>
	<title>Re:So, Essentially</title>
	<author>DNS-and-BIND</author>
	<datestamp>1260455700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Go to any shop and ask for "huang de DVD" (yellow DVDs - Chinese term for it, think "blue movies").  They have them behind the counter.  Usually seem to be Hong Kong girls but the Chinese mafia gets busted for making pornos so there must be mainland girls somewhere.  Chinese people get really angry when they see their women debasing themselves in porn (kappa girl).  Anyone think their view of Western women is warped due to all the white girls they see doing crazy shit in pornos?   Think about all the dumb stereotypes of Chinese people we all got from watching Hollywood movies.  Oh, and one more thing...heh, heh...it's funny the guys are supposed to be pornstars but they are not particularly well-endowed.  </p><p>Extremely poor country?  People aren't starving to death, and incomes are rising across the board.  The police are neither undermanned nor ill-funded.  A country where manpower is cheap and government is absolute?  The cops in my town all have new police cars.  Cameras are going up everywhere to monitor the whole city - imported products that they paid top dollar for (the guy I know who works on the system said the domestic systems were simply not up to snuff.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Go to any shop and ask for " huang de DVD " ( yellow DVDs - Chinese term for it , think " blue movies " ) .
They have them behind the counter .
Usually seem to be Hong Kong girls but the Chinese mafia gets busted for making pornos so there must be mainland girls somewhere .
Chinese people get really angry when they see their women debasing themselves in porn ( kappa girl ) .
Anyone think their view of Western women is warped due to all the white girls they see doing crazy shit in pornos ?
Think about all the dumb stereotypes of Chinese people we all got from watching Hollywood movies .
Oh , and one more thing...heh , heh...it 's funny the guys are supposed to be pornstars but they are not particularly well-endowed .
Extremely poor country ?
People are n't starving to death , and incomes are rising across the board .
The police are neither undermanned nor ill-funded .
A country where manpower is cheap and government is absolute ?
The cops in my town all have new police cars .
Cameras are going up everywhere to monitor the whole city - imported products that they paid top dollar for ( the guy I know who works on the system said the domestic systems were simply not up to snuff .
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<sentencetext>Go to any shop and ask for "huang de DVD" (yellow DVDs - Chinese term for it, think "blue movies").
They have them behind the counter.
Usually seem to be Hong Kong girls but the Chinese mafia gets busted for making pornos so there must be mainland girls somewhere.
Chinese people get really angry when they see their women debasing themselves in porn (kappa girl).
Anyone think their view of Western women is warped due to all the white girls they see doing crazy shit in pornos?
Think about all the dumb stereotypes of Chinese people we all got from watching Hollywood movies.
Oh, and one more thing...heh, heh...it's funny the guys are supposed to be pornstars but they are not particularly well-endowed.
Extremely poor country?
People aren't starving to death, and incomes are rising across the board.
The police are neither undermanned nor ill-funded.
A country where manpower is cheap and government is absolute?
The cops in my town all have new police cars.
Cameras are going up everywhere to monitor the whole city - imported products that they paid top dollar for (the guy I know who works on the system said the domestic systems were simply not up to snuff.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30395968</id>
	<title>BTChina is already down</title>
	<author>cylcyl</author>
	<datestamp>1260446280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>BTChina and its mirrors are already down. Many of the forums have closed their sharing forums,etc<br>The crackdown is on any site without an Audio/Visual distribution license. Which you probably cannot get without paying some unknown bureaucrat somewhere</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>BTChina and its mirrors are already down .
Many of the forums have closed their sharing forums,etcThe crackdown is on any site without an Audio/Visual distribution license .
Which you probably can not get without paying some unknown bureaucrat somewhere</tokentext>
<sentencetext>BTChina and its mirrors are already down.
Many of the forums have closed their sharing forums,etcThe crackdown is on any site without an Audio/Visual distribution license.
Which you probably cannot get without paying some unknown bureaucrat somewhere</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30404510</id>
	<title>Re:Build the Chinese market</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260558060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The point is to cut off Chinese people from the outside world's contaminating influence as well as stimulate Chinese domestic producers to fill the vacuum of demand.</p></div><p>So the goal is to produce more Chinese porn? I withdraw my objections!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The point is to cut off Chinese people from the outside world 's contaminating influence as well as stimulate Chinese domestic producers to fill the vacuum of demand.So the goal is to produce more Chinese porn ?
I withdraw my objections !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The point is to cut off Chinese people from the outside world's contaminating influence as well as stimulate Chinese domestic producers to fill the vacuum of demand.So the goal is to produce more Chinese porn?
I withdraw my objections!
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30396084</id>
	<title>Re:So, Essentially</title>
	<author>Monkeedude1212</author>
	<datestamp>1260446700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think they're doing it right.</p><p>Starting at the latest technologies (P2P Sharing) and working their way backwards. If you can cut off Piracy from the internet, then you can focus on physical media afterwards knowing that very little of it is going to be reproduced - since it can't be file shared as easily.</p><p>Stop the net and you stop alot of DVD-R's. If you force Pirates to Film  by video cam, the quality of pirated films goes way down and eventually people won't want that pirated version.</p><p>How many of those Pirated DVD's in China-town do you think were hand-recorded by the owner of the shop? They were quite obviously fileshared.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think they 're doing it right.Starting at the latest technologies ( P2P Sharing ) and working their way backwards .
If you can cut off Piracy from the internet , then you can focus on physical media afterwards knowing that very little of it is going to be reproduced - since it ca n't be file shared as easily.Stop the net and you stop alot of DVD-R 's .
If you force Pirates to Film by video cam , the quality of pirated films goes way down and eventually people wo n't want that pirated version.How many of those Pirated DVD 's in China-town do you think were hand-recorded by the owner of the shop ?
They were quite obviously fileshared .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think they're doing it right.Starting at the latest technologies (P2P Sharing) and working their way backwards.
If you can cut off Piracy from the internet, then you can focus on physical media afterwards knowing that very little of it is going to be reproduced - since it can't be file shared as easily.Stop the net and you stop alot of DVD-R's.
If you force Pirates to Film  by video cam, the quality of pirated films goes way down and eventually people won't want that pirated version.How many of those Pirated DVD's in China-town do you think were hand-recorded by the owner of the shop?
They were quite obviously fileshared.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30396338</id>
	<title>Re:That's alright</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260447840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The few, the <b>proud</b>, the Christian, Conservative, Republican Slashdotters.</p></div><p>
isnt pride one of the 7 deadly sins?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The few , the proud , the Christian , Conservative , Republican Slashdotters .
isnt pride one of the 7 deadly sins ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The few, the proud, the Christian, Conservative, Republican Slashdotters.
isnt pride one of the 7 deadly sins?
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30397398</id>
	<title>Re:So, Essentially</title>
	<author>rawrasaur</author>
	<datestamp>1260455040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>When I was last in Hong Kong (ok its not really China but whatever) I bought porn from a shop in a market on the street. They had tons of old porn from the 80s and 90s and lots of strange stuff.

And it was an open air shop in the middle of a market. And that was just last year.</htmltext>
<tokenext>When I was last in Hong Kong ( ok its not really China but whatever ) I bought porn from a shop in a market on the street .
They had tons of old porn from the 80s and 90s and lots of strange stuff .
And it was an open air shop in the middle of a market .
And that was just last year .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I was last in Hong Kong (ok its not really China but whatever) I bought porn from a shop in a market on the street.
They had tons of old porn from the 80s and 90s and lots of strange stuff.
And it was an open air shop in the middle of a market.
And that was just last year.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30397910</id>
	<title>Build the Chinese market</title>
	<author>DNS-and-BIND</author>
	<datestamp>1260459360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The government does this once in a while.  The point is to cut off Chinese people from the outside world's contaminating influence as well as stimulate Chinese domestic producers to fill the vacuum of demand.  They'd rather have content producers they control <a href="http://capetown.china-consulate.org/eng/xwdt/t364619.htm" title="china-consulate.org">promoting socialist morality</a> [china-consulate.org] instead of foreigners with silly ideas like voting (universal sufferage/if you can breathe you can vote...not like wise Confucian sages ruling because they're the smartest and therefore obviously the best [at least in the eyes of the Confucian sages]).  Other corrosive Hollywood ideas include: pervasive contempt for authority figures like police, glorification of criminals and violent mafia, scenes of excessive violence designed to stimulate the dark parts of the human soul, and so on.  Be disciplined and law-abiding, not chaotic and lawless; Live plainly, work hard, do not wallow in luxuries and pleasures...what would Hollywood look like if they had to follow government-mandated guidelines like these when making films?</p><p>And people can just get it elsewhere?  Sure, but remember the Great Wall was only a wall.  I mean, you could climb over it if you wanted...it just made your job harder, that's all.  Same with the Great Firewall (actually named Golden Shield because it's meant to defend from attacks from outside while keeping China's domestic internet safe) and other barriers.  They're not omnipotent, they are but mere cumbersome obstacles.</p><p>The site was closed because it didn't have an "Information Network Broadcast Audio Visual Programming Permission Certificate" from...you guessed it...SARFT!  AKA The State Administration of Radio Film and Television, AKA the <a href="http://lambiek.net/comics/code.htm" title="lambiek.net">Comics Code Authority</a> [lambiek.net], AKA the Thought Police.  This wasn't a commercial or copyright dispute, otherwise it would be handled by a different government agency.  This was purely cultural in nature.</p><p>The funny part is, with all these people on bitorrent at once, download speeds have never been higher!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The government does this once in a while .
The point is to cut off Chinese people from the outside world 's contaminating influence as well as stimulate Chinese domestic producers to fill the vacuum of demand .
They 'd rather have content producers they control promoting socialist morality [ china-consulate.org ] instead of foreigners with silly ideas like voting ( universal sufferage/if you can breathe you can vote...not like wise Confucian sages ruling because they 're the smartest and therefore obviously the best [ at least in the eyes of the Confucian sages ] ) .
Other corrosive Hollywood ideas include : pervasive contempt for authority figures like police , glorification of criminals and violent mafia , scenes of excessive violence designed to stimulate the dark parts of the human soul , and so on .
Be disciplined and law-abiding , not chaotic and lawless ; Live plainly , work hard , do not wallow in luxuries and pleasures...what would Hollywood look like if they had to follow government-mandated guidelines like these when making films ? And people can just get it elsewhere ?
Sure , but remember the Great Wall was only a wall .
I mean , you could climb over it if you wanted...it just made your job harder , that 's all .
Same with the Great Firewall ( actually named Golden Shield because it 's meant to defend from attacks from outside while keeping China 's domestic internet safe ) and other barriers .
They 're not omnipotent , they are but mere cumbersome obstacles.The site was closed because it did n't have an " Information Network Broadcast Audio Visual Programming Permission Certificate " from...you guessed it...SARFT !
AKA The State Administration of Radio Film and Television , AKA the Comics Code Authority [ lambiek.net ] , AKA the Thought Police .
This was n't a commercial or copyright dispute , otherwise it would be handled by a different government agency .
This was purely cultural in nature.The funny part is , with all these people on bitorrent at once , download speeds have never been higher !
; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The government does this once in a while.
The point is to cut off Chinese people from the outside world's contaminating influence as well as stimulate Chinese domestic producers to fill the vacuum of demand.
They'd rather have content producers they control promoting socialist morality [china-consulate.org] instead of foreigners with silly ideas like voting (universal sufferage/if you can breathe you can vote...not like wise Confucian sages ruling because they're the smartest and therefore obviously the best [at least in the eyes of the Confucian sages]).
Other corrosive Hollywood ideas include: pervasive contempt for authority figures like police, glorification of criminals and violent mafia, scenes of excessive violence designed to stimulate the dark parts of the human soul, and so on.
Be disciplined and law-abiding, not chaotic and lawless; Live plainly, work hard, do not wallow in luxuries and pleasures...what would Hollywood look like if they had to follow government-mandated guidelines like these when making films?And people can just get it elsewhere?
Sure, but remember the Great Wall was only a wall.
I mean, you could climb over it if you wanted...it just made your job harder, that's all.
Same with the Great Firewall (actually named Golden Shield because it's meant to defend from attacks from outside while keeping China's domestic internet safe) and other barriers.
They're not omnipotent, they are but mere cumbersome obstacles.The site was closed because it didn't have an "Information Network Broadcast Audio Visual Programming Permission Certificate" from...you guessed it...SARFT!
AKA The State Administration of Radio Film and Television, AKA the Comics Code Authority [lambiek.net], AKA the Thought Police.
This wasn't a commercial or copyright dispute, otherwise it would be handled by a different government agency.
This was purely cultural in nature.The funny part is, with all these people on bitorrent at once, download speeds have never been higher!
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30397298</id>
	<title>Blocking porn? Noooo!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260454140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>its latest attempt to fight pornography and piracy online.</p></div><p>Blocking piracy I can see as being a noble goal (even if blocking all bittorrent is the wrong way to do it), but why would they want to block porn?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>its latest attempt to fight pornography and piracy online.Blocking piracy I can see as being a noble goal ( even if blocking all bittorrent is the wrong way to do it ) , but why would they want to block porn ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>its latest attempt to fight pornography and piracy online.Blocking piracy I can see as being a noble goal (even if blocking all bittorrent is the wrong way to do it), but why would they want to block porn?
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30398384</id>
	<title>Re:I'm confused</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260466320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Is the internet analyst saying that piracy is good for the market?</p></div><p>Makes sense to me.  If copyright laws are stifling the market, then bypassing them is good for it.  If it weren't for Napster, we probably wouldn't have online music sales, for instance.</p><p>The surprise, of course, is that he's saying it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is the internet analyst saying that piracy is good for the market ? Makes sense to me .
If copyright laws are stifling the market , then bypassing them is good for it .
If it were n't for Napster , we probably would n't have online music sales , for instance.The surprise , of course , is that he 's saying it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is the internet analyst saying that piracy is good for the market?Makes sense to me.
If copyright laws are stifling the market, then bypassing them is good for it.
If it weren't for Napster, we probably wouldn't have online music sales, for instance.The surprise, of course, is that he's saying it.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30433818</id>
	<title>Re:So what now?</title>
	<author>skeeto</author>
	<datestamp>1260819420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>As far as I know, nobody has come up with a de facto distributed, anonymous replacement for trackers.</p></div><p> <i>*ahem*</i> <a href="http://www.bittorrent.org/beps/bep\_0005.html" title="bittorrent.org">BitTorrent uses the Kademila DHT</a> [bittorrent.org] for distributed tracking, and it works really, really well so far. I haven't used a centralized tracker for a year or so now. There's also <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peer\_exchange" title="wikipedia.org">peer exchange</a> [wikipedia.org] (PEX).

The trackers aren't the weak points of BitTorrent, and haven't been for years. The weak point is in<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.torrent distribution, with commenting/forum, seed/leach counts, search, etc. Magnet links partially resolve this by moving the<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.torrent files out to the DHT as well.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>As far as I know , nobody has come up with a de facto distributed , anonymous replacement for trackers .
* ahem * BitTorrent uses the Kademila DHT [ bittorrent.org ] for distributed tracking , and it works really , really well so far .
I have n't used a centralized tracker for a year or so now .
There 's also peer exchange [ wikipedia.org ] ( PEX ) .
The trackers are n't the weak points of BitTorrent , and have n't been for years .
The weak point is in .torrent distribution , with commenting/forum , seed/leach counts , search , etc .
Magnet links partially resolve this by moving the .torrent files out to the DHT as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As far as I know, nobody has come up with a de facto distributed, anonymous replacement for trackers.
*ahem* BitTorrent uses the Kademila DHT [bittorrent.org] for distributed tracking, and it works really, really well so far.
I haven't used a centralized tracker for a year or so now.
There's also peer exchange [wikipedia.org] (PEX).
The trackers aren't the weak points of BitTorrent, and haven't been for years.
The weak point is in .torrent distribution, with commenting/forum, seed/leach counts, search, etc.
Magnet links partially resolve this by moving the .torrent files out to the DHT as well.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30396600</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30397658</id>
	<title>Actually</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260457140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think China is playing by the book. They've seen the USA role in the world (all IP bull etc. yadda, yadda) -- and they want it for themselves.</p><p>Good luck becoming China in the future.</p><p>Now, what really befuddles me is why are they fighting pornography... piracy, check, pedo, check... but pornography? WTF? (sorry)</p><p>When did the Chinese become puritans?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think China is playing by the book .
They 've seen the USA role in the world ( all IP bull etc .
yadda , yadda ) -- and they want it for themselves.Good luck becoming China in the future.Now , what really befuddles me is why are they fighting pornography... piracy , check , pedo , check... but pornography ?
WTF ? ( sorry ) When did the Chinese become puritans ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think China is playing by the book.
They've seen the USA role in the world (all IP bull etc.
yadda, yadda) -- and they want it for themselves.Good luck becoming China in the future.Now, what really befuddles me is why are they fighting pornography... piracy, check, pedo, check... but pornography?
WTF? (sorry)When did the Chinese become puritans?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30395704</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30400104</id>
	<title>Oh China</title>
	<author>hellop2</author>
	<datestamp>1260535800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>When will you stop sucking?</htmltext>
<tokenext>When will you stop sucking ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When will you stop sucking?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30395502</id>
	<title>I swear!</title>
	<author>nightfire-unique</author>
	<datestamp>1260444540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This country is turning more and more into the US every day!</p><p>er, wait a minute.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:p</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This country is turning more and more into the US every day ! er , wait a minute .
: p</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This country is turning more and more into the US every day!er, wait a minute.
:p</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30398788</id>
	<title>China doesn't need P2P for copyright infrigements</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260472860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>That just makes me laught. As if people cared in China. The fact that they close p2p sites is just because it's using too much bandwidth on an already saturated network. But have a look at these 2 sites:<br>
<a href="http://www.pps.tv/" title="www.pps.tv" rel="nofollow">http://www.pps.tv/</a> [www.pps.tv] <br>
<a href="http://www.youku.com/" title="youku.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.youku.com/</a> [youku.com] <br>
and realize that nobody needs p2p to watch films. It's better to watch them with live, free streaming! pps.tv works extremely well and has very nice films, with often very good Simplified Chinese subs (according to my Chinese friends).</htmltext>
<tokenext>That just makes me laught .
As if people cared in China .
The fact that they close p2p sites is just because it 's using too much bandwidth on an already saturated network .
But have a look at these 2 sites : http : //www.pps.tv/ [ www.pps.tv ] http : //www.youku.com/ [ youku.com ] and realize that nobody needs p2p to watch films .
It 's better to watch them with live , free streaming !
pps.tv works extremely well and has very nice films , with often very good Simplified Chinese subs ( according to my Chinese friends ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That just makes me laught.
As if people cared in China.
The fact that they close p2p sites is just because it's using too much bandwidth on an already saturated network.
But have a look at these 2 sites:
http://www.pps.tv/ [www.pps.tv] 
http://www.youku.com/ [youku.com] 
and realize that nobody needs p2p to watch films.
It's better to watch them with live, free streaming!
pps.tv works extremely well and has very nice films, with often very good Simplified Chinese subs (according to my Chinese friends).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30395852</id>
	<title>That's alright</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260445800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Once the bittorrent trackers in China are down, I'm sure the professional counterfeiters will appreciate the boost in business as everyone heads to the streets for their warez. For the first time, the pirates and the **AA both benefit from the same political action!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Once the bittorrent trackers in China are down , I 'm sure the professional counterfeiters will appreciate the boost in business as everyone heads to the streets for their warez .
For the first time , the pirates and the * * AA both benefit from the same political action !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Once the bittorrent trackers in China are down, I'm sure the professional counterfeiters will appreciate the boost in business as everyone heads to the streets for their warez.
For the first time, the pirates and the **AA both benefit from the same political action!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30395360</id>
	<title>For those not in the know...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260444000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... for those not in the know, the SARFT is basically a bribe-as-you-go organization. Plus, they hate the cute and adorable Cao Ni Ma (the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grass\_Mud\_Horse" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Grass Mud Horse</a> [wikipedia.org])</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... for those not in the know , the SARFT is basically a bribe-as-you-go organization .
Plus , they hate the cute and adorable Cao Ni Ma ( the Grass Mud Horse [ wikipedia.org ] )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... for those not in the know, the SARFT is basically a bribe-as-you-go organization.
Plus, they hate the cute and adorable Cao Ni Ma (the Grass Mud Horse [wikipedia.org])</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30397198</id>
	<title>Re:That's alright</title>
	<author>lostinmadnez</author>
	<datestamp>1260453180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>True, its probably the pirates telling the government to step up its online campaign since their business got ruined by BT. And since many assume fake DVDs are tied to the relatives of Army high-ups, that totally makes sense, in a weird and twisted way.</htmltext>
<tokenext>True , its probably the pirates telling the government to step up its online campaign since their business got ruined by BT .
And since many assume fake DVDs are tied to the relatives of Army high-ups , that totally makes sense , in a weird and twisted way .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>True, its probably the pirates telling the government to step up its online campaign since their business got ruined by BT.
And since many assume fake DVDs are tied to the relatives of Army high-ups, that totally makes sense, in a weird and twisted way.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30395852</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30395270</id>
	<title>China?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260443700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I remember something similar happening in the US (and probably worldwide) when TPB was about to go down. Leeching increased by substantial amounts across the board for the last couple days.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I remember something similar happening in the US ( and probably worldwide ) when TPB was about to go down .
Leeching increased by substantial amounts across the board for the last couple days .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I remember something similar happening in the US (and probably worldwide) when TPB was about to go down.
Leeching increased by substantial amounts across the board for the last couple days.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30395324</id>
	<title>So, Essentially</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260443940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>China does nothing to stop the sale of pirated movies, music and software on physical media. But as soon as it's not on a cheap DVD-R, it requires a crackdown?
Get your priorities straight.</htmltext>
<tokenext>China does nothing to stop the sale of pirated movies , music and software on physical media .
But as soon as it 's not on a cheap DVD-R , it requires a crackdown ?
Get your priorities straight .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>China does nothing to stop the sale of pirated movies, music and software on physical media.
But as soon as it's not on a cheap DVD-R, it requires a crackdown?
Get your priorities straight.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30395904</id>
	<title>Scrabbling?</title>
	<author>cylcyl</author>
	<datestamp>1260446040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There's got to be a triple word score joke in there somewhere!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's got to be a triple word score joke in there somewhere !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's got to be a triple word score joke in there somewhere!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30396858</id>
	<title>Re:So, Essentially</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260450780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"As for the "china does nothing" part. I think you need to understand just how poor China is."</p><p>That's what they get for sinking all those trillions in that horrible investment called America.  If only America would pay China back 10\% of what's owed, China's economy would be unstoppable.  All that wasteful spending on things like the brand new stadiums for the Olympics, who do those poor people think they are? The rich?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" As for the " china does nothing " part .
I think you need to understand just how poor China is .
" That 's what they get for sinking all those trillions in that horrible investment called America .
If only America would pay China back 10 \ % of what 's owed , China 's economy would be unstoppable .
All that wasteful spending on things like the brand new stadiums for the Olympics , who do those poor people think they are ?
The rich ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"As for the "china does nothing" part.
I think you need to understand just how poor China is.
"That's what they get for sinking all those trillions in that horrible investment called America.
If only America would pay China back 10\% of what's owed, China's economy would be unstoppable.
All that wasteful spending on things like the brand new stadiums for the Olympics, who do those poor people think they are?
The rich?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30395902</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30397370</id>
	<title>Re:China?</title>
	<author>Larryish</author>
	<datestamp>1260454740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I remember FTP for FXP via IRC and<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... sorry, out of acronyms.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I remember FTP for FXP via IRC and ... sorry , out of acronyms .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I remember FTP for FXP via IRC and ... sorry, out of acronyms.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30396094</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30403902</id>
	<title>Re:That's alright</title>
	<author>pwfffff</author>
	<datestamp>1260555660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Deadly sins? Nonono, he's not one of THOSE Christians. He's a REAL Christian.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Deadly sins ?
Nonono , he 's not one of THOSE Christians .
He 's a REAL Christian .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Deadly sins?
Nonono, he's not one of THOSE Christians.
He's a REAL Christian.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30396338</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30397024</id>
	<title>Re:That's alright</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260451800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Deadly sins?  I thought it was a todo list...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Deadly sins ?
I thought it was a todo list.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Deadly sins?
I thought it was a todo list...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30396338</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30396600</id>
	<title>So what now?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260449220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>We've known for years that BitTorrent has this weakness of relying on tracking sites that can be shut down or blocked. As far as I know, nobody has come up with a de facto distributed, anonymous replacement for trackers. Now some of the biggest BT trackers have gone down or been blocked. Does anyone know of efforts to solve this, and how they stack up?<br> <br>Living in China myself, I can access a few BT trackers in English, so that's fine for me. But of course the native Chinese use their own sites, just like they use their own search engine (Bai Du) and their own IM client (QQ). The government here can easily block out the biggest BT sites, just like they block out Facebook, YouTube, Blogger, MySpace, and many other popular western sites. Tor is slower than molasses, sometimes taking up to a minute to display a page here, so that really isn't a replacement, and anonymous web proxies aren't a long-term solution.</htmltext>
<tokenext>We 've known for years that BitTorrent has this weakness of relying on tracking sites that can be shut down or blocked .
As far as I know , nobody has come up with a de facto distributed , anonymous replacement for trackers .
Now some of the biggest BT trackers have gone down or been blocked .
Does anyone know of efforts to solve this , and how they stack up ?
Living in China myself , I can access a few BT trackers in English , so that 's fine for me .
But of course the native Chinese use their own sites , just like they use their own search engine ( Bai Du ) and their own IM client ( QQ ) .
The government here can easily block out the biggest BT sites , just like they block out Facebook , YouTube , Blogger , MySpace , and many other popular western sites .
Tor is slower than molasses , sometimes taking up to a minute to display a page here , so that really is n't a replacement , and anonymous web proxies are n't a long-term solution .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We've known for years that BitTorrent has this weakness of relying on tracking sites that can be shut down or blocked.
As far as I know, nobody has come up with a de facto distributed, anonymous replacement for trackers.
Now some of the biggest BT trackers have gone down or been blocked.
Does anyone know of efforts to solve this, and how they stack up?
Living in China myself, I can access a few BT trackers in English, so that's fine for me.
But of course the native Chinese use their own sites, just like they use their own search engine (Bai Du) and their own IM client (QQ).
The government here can easily block out the biggest BT sites, just like they block out Facebook, YouTube, Blogger, MySpace, and many other popular western sites.
Tor is slower than molasses, sometimes taking up to a minute to display a page here, so that really isn't a replacement, and anonymous web proxies aren't a long-term solution.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30398886</id>
	<title>Re:Neato</title>
	<author>PingPongBoy</author>
	<datestamp>1260561600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><em>Advisor: "Sir, we don't need to stop 100\% of Pirating sites, we just need to stop the top 50\% so that the underlying 50\% are so overburdened by requests that they can't function! It's like a DDOS attack without hacking!"</em></p><p>Just as I was thinking along the same line, the other line of thought started up - "There's always tomorrow". If the sites are jammed today but nothing stops them, sooner or later people will realize that downloads are still working.</p><p>The big BUT: if the Chinese government wants to show how powerful it is, it should just pay to have everything streamed so people don't even have to try to own it. Maybe that's too captialist communist, sort of like country rock, where something unappealing is made appealing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Advisor : " Sir , we do n't need to stop 100 \ % of Pirating sites , we just need to stop the top 50 \ % so that the underlying 50 \ % are so overburdened by requests that they ca n't function !
It 's like a DDOS attack without hacking !
" Just as I was thinking along the same line , the other line of thought started up - " There 's always tomorrow " .
If the sites are jammed today but nothing stops them , sooner or later people will realize that downloads are still working.The big BUT : if the Chinese government wants to show how powerful it is , it should just pay to have everything streamed so people do n't even have to try to own it .
Maybe that 's too captialist communist , sort of like country rock , where something unappealing is made appealing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Advisor: "Sir, we don't need to stop 100\% of Pirating sites, we just need to stop the top 50\% so that the underlying 50\% are so overburdened by requests that they can't function!
It's like a DDOS attack without hacking!
"Just as I was thinking along the same line, the other line of thought started up - "There's always tomorrow".
If the sites are jammed today but nothing stops them, sooner or later people will realize that downloads are still working.The big BUT: if the Chinese government wants to show how powerful it is, it should just pay to have everything streamed so people don't even have to try to own it.
Maybe that's too captialist communist, sort of like country rock, where something unappealing is made appealing.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30395884</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30395390</id>
	<title>it's a little different</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260444120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>when the hydra in question also has a state police force that has no problem getting involved in cultural and human rights issues and government control over the network.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>when the hydra in question also has a state police force that has no problem getting involved in cultural and human rights issues and government control over the network .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>when the hydra in question also has a state police force that has no problem getting involved in cultural and human rights issues and government control over the network.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30395316</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30397186</id>
	<title>Re:So, Essentially</title>
	<author>lostinmadnez</author>
	<datestamp>1260453120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well, you obviously dont know what you are talking about. Does "Private" ring any bells? In any well sorted fake DVD 9 store you can get a Private collection stacked with the other DVDs, If you know what Private stands for, you buy ur porn there, no screenshots on the back, so unsuspecting customers usually wont buy it. And even if, happy surprise!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , you obviously dont know what you are talking about .
Does " Private " ring any bells ?
In any well sorted fake DVD 9 store you can get a Private collection stacked with the other DVDs , If you know what Private stands for , you buy ur porn there , no screenshots on the back , so unsuspecting customers usually wont buy it .
And even if , happy surprise !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, you obviously dont know what you are talking about.
Does "Private" ring any bells?
In any well sorted fake DVD 9 store you can get a Private collection stacked with the other DVDs, If you know what Private stands for, you buy ur porn there, no screenshots on the back, so unsuspecting customers usually wont buy it.
And even if, happy surprise!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30395902</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30396142</id>
	<title>Re:So what?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260446940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ten years ago, people though China would never be able to censor the net. They were wrong. What makes you so certain this time around?</p><p>And where China goes, the West follows. If China succeeds in shutting down bittorrent, your swarms won't be far behind.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ten years ago , people though China would never be able to censor the net .
They were wrong .
What makes you so certain this time around ? And where China goes , the West follows .
If China succeeds in shutting down bittorrent , your swarms wo n't be far behind .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ten years ago, people though China would never be able to censor the net.
They were wrong.
What makes you so certain this time around?And where China goes, the West follows.
If China succeeds in shutting down bittorrent, your swarms won't be far behind.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30395316</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30395462</id>
	<title>I bet President-VICE Richard B. Cheney</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260444420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>has been downloading those A.Q.  Khan plans for days.</p><p>Yours In Novosibirsk,<br>K. Trout</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>has been downloading those A.Q .
Khan plans for days.Yours In Novosibirsk,K .
Trout</tokentext>
<sentencetext>has been downloading those A.Q.
Khan plans for days.Yours In Novosibirsk,K.
Trout</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30395902</id>
	<title>Re:So, Essentially</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260446040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Actually according to Chinese media this crack focuses on eradicating pornography. Now, it's true you can get any DVD in China including 'subversive' movie (like '7 years' with Brad Pitt) , but they simply don't sell porn in those shops, it's a line they never crossed. Chinese people get their porn from the internet, mostly through torrents.
As for the "china does nothing" part. I think you need to understand just how poor China is. Despite media hype - this is an extremely poor country with tons of problems and the undermanned underpaid police has much more important stuff to deal with than people copying DVds</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually according to Chinese media this crack focuses on eradicating pornography .
Now , it 's true you can get any DVD in China including 'subversive ' movie ( like '7 years ' with Brad Pitt ) , but they simply do n't sell porn in those shops , it 's a line they never crossed .
Chinese people get their porn from the internet , mostly through torrents .
As for the " china does nothing " part .
I think you need to understand just how poor China is .
Despite media hype - this is an extremely poor country with tons of problems and the undermanned underpaid police has much more important stuff to deal with than people copying DVds</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually according to Chinese media this crack focuses on eradicating pornography.
Now, it's true you can get any DVD in China including 'subversive' movie (like '7 years' with Brad Pitt) , but they simply don't sell porn in those shops, it's a line they never crossed.
Chinese people get their porn from the internet, mostly through torrents.
As for the "china does nothing" part.
I think you need to understand just how poor China is.
Despite media hype - this is an extremely poor country with tons of problems and the undermanned underpaid police has much more important stuff to deal with than people copying DVds</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30396496</id>
	<title>Re:So, Essentially</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260448680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>the undermanned underpaid police has much more important stuff to deal with than people copying DVds</p></div></blockquote><p>
Like crushing dissidence!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>the undermanned underpaid police has much more important stuff to deal with than people copying DVds Like crushing dissidence !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the undermanned underpaid police has much more important stuff to deal with than people copying DVds
Like crushing dissidence!
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30396638</id>
	<title>Amanda Seyfried/Julianne Moore love scene?  Check!</title>
	<author>Impy the Impiuos Imp</author>
	<datestamp>1260449400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So China is, as probably prompted by the US, shutting down file sharing.</p><p>Yet that is also a backup distribution method for information in this near-totalitarian society.</p><p>I'm glad we have our priorities straight in pressuring them for reform.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So China is , as probably prompted by the US , shutting down file sharing.Yet that is also a backup distribution method for information in this near-totalitarian society.I 'm glad we have our priorities straight in pressuring them for reform .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So China is, as probably prompted by the US, shutting down file sharing.Yet that is also a backup distribution method for information in this near-totalitarian society.I'm glad we have our priorities straight in pressuring them for reform.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30399136</id>
	<title>Re:Build the Chinese market</title>
	<author>plasticsquirrel</author>
	<datestamp>1260565140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>They'd rather have content producers they control promoting socialist morality [china-consulate.org] instead of foreigners with silly ideas like voting (universal sufferage/if you can breathe you can vote...not like wise Confucian sages ruling because they're the smartest and therefore obviously the best [at least in the eyes of the Confucian sages]).</p></div></blockquote><p>
1. The "Confucians" of the last thousand years are better described as Neo-Confucians, and they would be better described as intellectuals than sages. From Zhu Xi on, the most important works of Confucianism began to be interpreted in a very selective way to reinforce certain attempts by rulers to further their own selfish goals. These people were not Confucians in the classical sense because they did not teach individual consciousness and self-cultivation. It's for this reason that they can only be considered intellectuals.<br> <br>2. The philosophy of Confucius did not exist as a separate school from Daoism originally, and they only became distinguished in the Han Dynasty when people began to reinterpret the original texts and take on partisan roles. In fact, originally each state had its own prized texts, specialties, and literary styles.<br> <br>3. The teachings of Confucius stress the cultivation of the person as being the starting point of everything, and the notion of the "Great Harmony" in society comes from everyone putting this into practice, not from rulers exerting power over others. You can verify this very easily by reading the Great Learning, which is the shortest and most essential Confucian book on governance.<br> <br>4. The Chinese government vilified, and still does to some extent, anything related to Confucianism, which to them is synonymous with traditionalism and conservatism. They need to, to justify their own place in society. However, in the Spring and Autumn and Warring States periods, the teachings of Confucius played a humanist role in society by emphasizing individual consciousness and essential human kindness ("ren", or benevolence).<br> <br>It's sad that nobody reads the essential works of Confucianism. Scholars are only now starting to recognize that there is a huge discrepancy between the contents of the Confucian classics and what they had presumed for so long. Sadly, anyone who bothered to spend a short amount of time reading the original sources could have learned these things easily.</p></div>
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<tokenext>They 'd rather have content producers they control promoting socialist morality [ china-consulate.org ] instead of foreigners with silly ideas like voting ( universal sufferage/if you can breathe you can vote...not like wise Confucian sages ruling because they 're the smartest and therefore obviously the best [ at least in the eyes of the Confucian sages ] ) .
1. The " Confucians " of the last thousand years are better described as Neo-Confucians , and they would be better described as intellectuals than sages .
From Zhu Xi on , the most important works of Confucianism began to be interpreted in a very selective way to reinforce certain attempts by rulers to further their own selfish goals .
These people were not Confucians in the classical sense because they did not teach individual consciousness and self-cultivation .
It 's for this reason that they can only be considered intellectuals .
2. The philosophy of Confucius did not exist as a separate school from Daoism originally , and they only became distinguished in the Han Dynasty when people began to reinterpret the original texts and take on partisan roles .
In fact , originally each state had its own prized texts , specialties , and literary styles .
3. The teachings of Confucius stress the cultivation of the person as being the starting point of everything , and the notion of the " Great Harmony " in society comes from everyone putting this into practice , not from rulers exerting power over others .
You can verify this very easily by reading the Great Learning , which is the shortest and most essential Confucian book on governance .
4. The Chinese government vilified , and still does to some extent , anything related to Confucianism , which to them is synonymous with traditionalism and conservatism .
They need to , to justify their own place in society .
However , in the Spring and Autumn and Warring States periods , the teachings of Confucius played a humanist role in society by emphasizing individual consciousness and essential human kindness ( " ren " , or benevolence ) .
It 's sad that nobody reads the essential works of Confucianism .
Scholars are only now starting to recognize that there is a huge discrepancy between the contents of the Confucian classics and what they had presumed for so long .
Sadly , anyone who bothered to spend a short amount of time reading the original sources could have learned these things easily .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They'd rather have content producers they control promoting socialist morality [china-consulate.org] instead of foreigners with silly ideas like voting (universal sufferage/if you can breathe you can vote...not like wise Confucian sages ruling because they're the smartest and therefore obviously the best [at least in the eyes of the Confucian sages]).
1. The "Confucians" of the last thousand years are better described as Neo-Confucians, and they would be better described as intellectuals than sages.
From Zhu Xi on, the most important works of Confucianism began to be interpreted in a very selective way to reinforce certain attempts by rulers to further their own selfish goals.
These people were not Confucians in the classical sense because they did not teach individual consciousness and self-cultivation.
It's for this reason that they can only be considered intellectuals.
2. The philosophy of Confucius did not exist as a separate school from Daoism originally, and they only became distinguished in the Han Dynasty when people began to reinterpret the original texts and take on partisan roles.
In fact, originally each state had its own prized texts, specialties, and literary styles.
3. The teachings of Confucius stress the cultivation of the person as being the starting point of everything, and the notion of the "Great Harmony" in society comes from everyone putting this into practice, not from rulers exerting power over others.
You can verify this very easily by reading the Great Learning, which is the shortest and most essential Confucian book on governance.
4. The Chinese government vilified, and still does to some extent, anything related to Confucianism, which to them is synonymous with traditionalism and conservatism.
They need to, to justify their own place in society.
However, in the Spring and Autumn and Warring States periods, the teachings of Confucius played a humanist role in society by emphasizing individual consciousness and essential human kindness ("ren", or benevolence).
It's sad that nobody reads the essential works of Confucianism.
Scholars are only now starting to recognize that there is a huge discrepancy between the contents of the Confucian classics and what they had presumed for so long.
Sadly, anyone who bothered to spend a short amount of time reading the original sources could have learned these things easily.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30398578</id>
	<title>Re:So, Essentially</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260469080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You are clueless. Chinese movies and music is illegaly copied within China all the time. Hell, just about every major online company(baidu, gougou, tencent, xunlei, tudou...) make it very easy to find Chinese music, TV, game show.</p><p>This is most definitely all about pornography... for once they aren't lying, haha.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You are clueless .
Chinese movies and music is illegaly copied within China all the time .
Hell , just about every major online company ( baidu , gougou , tencent , xunlei , tudou... ) make it very easy to find Chinese music , TV , game show.This is most definitely all about pornography... for once they are n't lying , haha .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You are clueless.
Chinese movies and music is illegaly copied within China all the time.
Hell, just about every major online company(baidu, gougou, tencent, xunlei, tudou...) make it very easy to find Chinese music, TV, game show.This is most definitely all about pornography... for once they aren't lying, haha.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30396094</id>
	<title>Re:China?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260446760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I remember back in the day where anonymous FTP sites only rumored for containing pornography would be swarmed by downloaders trying to mget the whole site if their location was divulged on Usenet. It was enough that they were hammered for access that they would shut themselves down and purge themselves of their content.</p><p>Yes, back in the day when pornography was rare on the Internet, and even rare on Usenet. You young whackersnackers don't know how good you have it today.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I remember back in the day where anonymous FTP sites only rumored for containing pornography would be swarmed by downloaders trying to mget the whole site if their location was divulged on Usenet .
It was enough that they were hammered for access that they would shut themselves down and purge themselves of their content.Yes , back in the day when pornography was rare on the Internet , and even rare on Usenet .
You young whackersnackers do n't know how good you have it today .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I remember back in the day where anonymous FTP sites only rumored for containing pornography would be swarmed by downloaders trying to mget the whole site if their location was divulged on Usenet.
It was enough that they were hammered for access that they would shut themselves down and purge themselves of their content.Yes, back in the day when pornography was rare on the Internet, and even rare on Usenet.
You young whackersnackers don't know how good you have it today.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30397312</id>
	<title>Re:So what?</title>
	<author>DNS-and-BIND</author>
	<datestamp>1260454260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>And where China goes, the West follows</i> <p>Huh?  Where'd you get that one, buddy?  China has been in a vigorous "learn from the West" campaign ever since the Deng Xiaoping took the Chinese Communist Party down the capitalist road.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And where China goes , the West follows Huh ?
Where 'd you get that one , buddy ?
China has been in a vigorous " learn from the West " campaign ever since the Deng Xiaoping took the Chinese Communist Party down the capitalist road .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And where China goes, the West follows Huh?
Where'd you get that one, buddy?
China has been in a vigorous "learn from the West" campaign ever since the Deng Xiaoping took the Chinese Communist Party down the capitalist road.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30401614</id>
	<title>Easy solution. Home made porn.</title>
	<author>VShael</author>
	<datestamp>1260546360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Instead of taking the Japanese model, where every single genital shot is reduced to blocky 16x16 pixalation (though they bizarrely get around this by using demonic/alien tentacles where possible) they should use the blocky pixalation on faces (there will never be the equivalent of a porn star in China. Too much shame and the possibility of life imprisonment.)</p><p>Home made porn, without faces, can then be sold on the black market without running the dubious risk of trying illegal imports where you're never sure what you're going to get.</p><p>I mean, can you imagine the poor Chinese guy who got 2 Girls 1 Cup on High-Def by accident?<br>"This is what Westerners find sexy? I am glad we are communist china"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Instead of taking the Japanese model , where every single genital shot is reduced to blocky 16x16 pixalation ( though they bizarrely get around this by using demonic/alien tentacles where possible ) they should use the blocky pixalation on faces ( there will never be the equivalent of a porn star in China .
Too much shame and the possibility of life imprisonment .
) Home made porn , without faces , can then be sold on the black market without running the dubious risk of trying illegal imports where you 're never sure what you 're going to get.I mean , can you imagine the poor Chinese guy who got 2 Girls 1 Cup on High-Def by accident ?
" This is what Westerners find sexy ?
I am glad we are communist china "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Instead of taking the Japanese model, where every single genital shot is reduced to blocky 16x16 pixalation (though they bizarrely get around this by using demonic/alien tentacles where possible) they should use the blocky pixalation on faces (there will never be the equivalent of a porn star in China.
Too much shame and the possibility of life imprisonment.
)Home made porn, without faces, can then be sold on the black market without running the dubious risk of trying illegal imports where you're never sure what you're going to get.I mean, can you imagine the poor Chinese guy who got 2 Girls 1 Cup on High-Def by accident?
"This is what Westerners find sexy?
I am glad we are communist china"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30395290</id>
	<title>I'm confused</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260443820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Some Internet policy experts are suggesting that Internet officials might have gone too far.</p><p>"I suggest the government apply less harsher rules on rapid-sharing websites, beause they still need nurturing the market," Fang Xingdong, a Beijing-based Internet analyst, told METRO.</p></div><p>Huh?<br>Is the internet analyst saying that piracy is good for the market?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Some Internet policy experts are suggesting that Internet officials might have gone too far .
" I suggest the government apply less harsher rules on rapid-sharing websites , beause they still need nurturing the market , " Fang Xingdong , a Beijing-based Internet analyst , told METRO.Huh ? Is the internet analyst saying that piracy is good for the market ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Some Internet policy experts are suggesting that Internet officials might have gone too far.
"I suggest the government apply less harsher rules on rapid-sharing websites, beause they still need nurturing the market," Fang Xingdong, a Beijing-based Internet analyst, told METRO.Huh?Is the internet analyst saying that piracy is good for the market?
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30397406</id>
	<title>Re:China?</title>
	<author>Larryish</author>
	<datestamp>1260455100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>New movies and new music I can live without, and I imagine that others can, too.</p><p>E-books and audio books, not so much.</p><p>I could not even conceive of having to go the library for books anymore.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>New movies and new music I can live without , and I imagine that others can , too.E-books and audio books , not so much.I could not even conceive of having to go the library for books anymore .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>New movies and new music I can live without, and I imagine that others can, too.E-books and audio books, not so much.I could not even conceive of having to go the library for books anymore.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30401666</id>
	<title>We should all, for Christmas</title>
	<author>VShael</author>
	<datestamp>1260546660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>spend a few bucks and ship porn on DVD to a random address in China.</p><p>If you're worried about getting someone in trouble? Send it to a political figure. Or a chief of police.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>spend a few bucks and ship porn on DVD to a random address in China.If you 're worried about getting someone in trouble ?
Send it to a political figure .
Or a chief of police .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>spend a few bucks and ship porn on DVD to a random address in China.If you're worried about getting someone in trouble?
Send it to a political figure.
Or a chief of police.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30397928</id>
	<title>Who needs VeryCD anyway?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260459540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>VeryCD is for sissies anyway. We 1337 ch1|\|353 c0mmie 3ombie 7err0ristxx0rs know better. We're in ur b0xx0rs (right now) watching ur pr0ns, srsly<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p><p>Well, joking aside, my formal response as a responsible Chinese citizen was like "What?" I must have been living under a rock for the past N years because I'd never know that VeryCD had a BT service had I not read this story. I thought it was a bunch of ED2K pirates and just that. The only one time I used anything related to VeryCD was when I downloaded the pirate live recording of a concert (that I attended and paid $$$ for) using aMule, and saw a bunch of pirates with "VeryCD" in the username strings.</p><p>And yes, I use BitTorrent for pirate movies -- ones that I just couldn't have purchased legally since there are NONE FOR SALE. Old movies that "won't sell" (heck, I even paid a local film archive money to watch one and I liked it so much I pirated it later). Independent movies that were not intended to "sell", e.g. the low-budget scifi "Primer". Foreign movies that did not cater to the local market or did not pass the regulatory authority's "audit", e.g. "Magnolia" (I watched movie critique programme on TV that mentioned "Magnolia" and heck, I just can't find a legal copy available for sale here.)</p><p>But when I go pirate I use openbittorrent et al., and before that TPB. I never knew about the VeryCD. Did I miss something?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>VeryCD is for sissies anyway .
We 1337 ch1 | \ | 353 c0mmie 3ombie 7err0ristxx0rs know better .
We 're in ur b0xx0rs ( right now ) watching ur pr0ns , srsly ; ) Well , joking aside , my formal response as a responsible Chinese citizen was like " What ?
" I must have been living under a rock for the past N years because I 'd never know that VeryCD had a BT service had I not read this story .
I thought it was a bunch of ED2K pirates and just that .
The only one time I used anything related to VeryCD was when I downloaded the pirate live recording of a concert ( that I attended and paid $ $ $ for ) using aMule , and saw a bunch of pirates with " VeryCD " in the username strings.And yes , I use BitTorrent for pirate movies -- ones that I just could n't have purchased legally since there are NONE FOR SALE .
Old movies that " wo n't sell " ( heck , I even paid a local film archive money to watch one and I liked it so much I pirated it later ) .
Independent movies that were not intended to " sell " , e.g .
the low-budget scifi " Primer " .
Foreign movies that did not cater to the local market or did not pass the regulatory authority 's " audit " , e.g .
" Magnolia " ( I watched movie critique programme on TV that mentioned " Magnolia " and heck , I just ca n't find a legal copy available for sale here .
) But when I go pirate I use openbittorrent et al. , and before that TPB .
I never knew about the VeryCD .
Did I miss something ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>VeryCD is for sissies anyway.
We 1337 ch1|\|353 c0mmie 3ombie 7err0ristxx0rs know better.
We're in ur b0xx0rs (right now) watching ur pr0ns, srsly ;)Well, joking aside, my formal response as a responsible Chinese citizen was like "What?
" I must have been living under a rock for the past N years because I'd never know that VeryCD had a BT service had I not read this story.
I thought it was a bunch of ED2K pirates and just that.
The only one time I used anything related to VeryCD was when I downloaded the pirate live recording of a concert (that I attended and paid $$$ for) using aMule, and saw a bunch of pirates with "VeryCD" in the username strings.And yes, I use BitTorrent for pirate movies -- ones that I just couldn't have purchased legally since there are NONE FOR SALE.
Old movies that "won't sell" (heck, I even paid a local film archive money to watch one and I liked it so much I pirated it later).
Independent movies that were not intended to "sell", e.g.
the low-budget scifi "Primer".
Foreign movies that did not cater to the local market or did not pass the regulatory authority's "audit", e.g.
"Magnolia" (I watched movie critique programme on TV that mentioned "Magnolia" and heck, I just can't find a legal copy available for sale here.
)But when I go pirate I use openbittorrent et al., and before that TPB.
I never knew about the VeryCD.
Did I miss something?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30395704</id>
	<title>Re:So, Essentially</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260445260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The difference here is not the medium: the difference is OUR content versus THEIR content.  They have no problem letting their citizens pirate OUR content, even resell it, but when it's THEIR music in which some CHINESE company holds IP interest, well... that's a whole other story!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The difference here is not the medium : the difference is OUR content versus THEIR content .
They have no problem letting their citizens pirate OUR content , even resell it , but when it 's THEIR music in which some CHINESE company holds IP interest , well... that 's a whole other story !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The difference here is not the medium: the difference is OUR content versus THEIR content.
They have no problem letting their citizens pirate OUR content, even resell it, but when it's THEIR music in which some CHINESE company holds IP interest, well... that's a whole other story!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30397354</id>
	<title>Re:So, Essentially</title>
	<author>aaronlwe</author>
	<datestamp>1260454620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I use bt to download movies in shanghai as too many good movies are not imported or not allowed to enter the cinema.
and I downloaded mostly American made movies.

The dvd shop actually sell porn...you can ask the boss if you want that.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I use bt to download movies in shanghai as too many good movies are not imported or not allowed to enter the cinema .
and I downloaded mostly American made movies .
The dvd shop actually sell porn...you can ask the boss if you want that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use bt to download movies in shanghai as too many good movies are not imported or not allowed to enter the cinema.
and I downloaded mostly American made movies.
The dvd shop actually sell porn...you can ask the boss if you want that.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30398252</id>
	<title>shi7?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260464580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><A HREF="http://goat.cx/" title="goat.cx" rel="nofollow">Were taken 0ver fatal mHistakes,</a> [goat.cx]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Were taken 0ver fatal mHistakes , [ goat.cx ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Were taken 0ver fatal mHistakes, [goat.cx]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30396284</id>
	<title>Unfortunate for Everybody</title>
	<author>GrubLord</author>
	<datestamp>1260447540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So I assume they're not able to get outside the Chinese Internet to use overseas P2P trackers, etc.?</p><p>Poor guys.</p><p>Not that it'll hurt them all that much... aren't the copyright holders selling their work at much lower prices in China, in an attempt to make legitimate purchase more attractive than piracy?</p><p>Seems like they could just go across the road and pay a couple of Yuan for the real thing. Or even less for a bootleg. (Except porn, I suppose.)</p><p>More locally, however, cutting down piracy in China could be bad for all of us. Their ridiculously high piracy rates were forcing content creators to build more effective and convenient distribution systems and reduce prices significantly, just to make a profit in that market. Without that incentive, and with the rest of the world working hard to censor their own Internet and prevent the need for the entertainment, music and publishing industries to adapt to new technologies, we may never have a legal download methodology comparable to the convenience, breadth and scope of illegal downloading.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So I assume they 're not able to get outside the Chinese Internet to use overseas P2P trackers , etc .
? Poor guys.Not that it 'll hurt them all that much... are n't the copyright holders selling their work at much lower prices in China , in an attempt to make legitimate purchase more attractive than piracy ? Seems like they could just go across the road and pay a couple of Yuan for the real thing .
Or even less for a bootleg .
( Except porn , I suppose .
) More locally , however , cutting down piracy in China could be bad for all of us .
Their ridiculously high piracy rates were forcing content creators to build more effective and convenient distribution systems and reduce prices significantly , just to make a profit in that market .
Without that incentive , and with the rest of the world working hard to censor their own Internet and prevent the need for the entertainment , music and publishing industries to adapt to new technologies , we may never have a legal download methodology comparable to the convenience , breadth and scope of illegal downloading .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So I assume they're not able to get outside the Chinese Internet to use overseas P2P trackers, etc.
?Poor guys.Not that it'll hurt them all that much... aren't the copyright holders selling their work at much lower prices in China, in an attempt to make legitimate purchase more attractive than piracy?Seems like they could just go across the road and pay a couple of Yuan for the real thing.
Or even less for a bootleg.
(Except porn, I suppose.
)More locally, however, cutting down piracy in China could be bad for all of us.
Their ridiculously high piracy rates were forcing content creators to build more effective and convenient distribution systems and reduce prices significantly, just to make a profit in that market.
Without that incentive, and with the rest of the world working hard to censor their own Internet and prevent the need for the entertainment, music and publishing industries to adapt to new technologies, we may never have a legal download methodology comparable to the convenience, breadth and scope of illegal downloading.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30395316</id>
	<title>So what?</title>
	<author>Andorin</author>
	<datestamp>1260443880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Kill one head of the hydra and two more will just take its place.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Kill one head of the hydra and two more will just take its place .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Kill one head of the hydra and two more will just take its place.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_2125259.30399994</id>
	<title>Re:I'm confused</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1260534540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yarrr! GTFO with your **AA newspeak FUD! Go back to your **AA masters and hail them you drone!</p><p>I swear, soon I&rsquo;m gonna stab anyone who ever uses that word in that context again. Help mother nature a bit with the natural selection of total fucking retards!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yarrr !
GTFO with your * * AA newspeak FUD !
Go back to your * * AA masters and hail them you drone ! I swear , soon I    m gon na stab anyone who ever uses that word in that context again .
Help mother nature a bit with the natural selection of total fucking retards !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yarrr!
GTFO with your **AA newspeak FUD!
Go back to your **AA masters and hail them you drone!I swear, soon I’m gonna stab anyone who ever uses that word in that context again.
Help mother nature a bit with the natural selection of total fucking retards!</sentencetext>
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