<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_12_10_1627246</id>
	<title>Hackers Find Home In Amazon EC2 Cloud</title>
	<author>CmdrTaco</author>
	<datestamp>1260466020000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>snydeq writes <i>"Security researchers have spotted the Zeus botnet running an <a href="http://www.infoworld.com/d/cloud-computing/hackers-find-home-in-amazons-ec2-cloud-742">unauthorized command and control center on Amazon's EC2 cloud computing infrastructure</a>. This marks the first time Amazon Web Services' cloud infrastructure has been used for this type of illegal activity, according to threat researcher Don DeBolt. The hackers got onto Amazon's infrastructure by hacking into a Web site hosted on Amazon's servers and <a href="http://community.ca.com/blogs/securityadvisor/archive/2009/12/09/zeus-in-the-cloud.aspx">then secretly installing their command and control infrastructure</a>."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>snydeq writes " Security researchers have spotted the Zeus botnet running an unauthorized command and control center on Amazon 's EC2 cloud computing infrastructure .
This marks the first time Amazon Web Services ' cloud infrastructure has been used for this type of illegal activity , according to threat researcher Don DeBolt .
The hackers got onto Amazon 's infrastructure by hacking into a Web site hosted on Amazon 's servers and then secretly installing their command and control infrastructure .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>snydeq writes "Security researchers have spotted the Zeus botnet running an unauthorized command and control center on Amazon's EC2 cloud computing infrastructure.
This marks the first time Amazon Web Services' cloud infrastructure has been used for this type of illegal activity, according to threat researcher Don DeBolt.
The hackers got onto Amazon's infrastructure by hacking into a Web site hosted on Amazon's servers and then secretly installing their command and control infrastructure.
"</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30392138</id>
	<title>Re:I'm just pwning your server if that's ok...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260474900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Yeah, it's like saying a burglar secretly robbed your house... Like he's really going to send you a postcard saying, "Tonight when you go to the movies, I'm going to pillage your apt.".</p></div><p>"Ars&#232;ne Lupin, gentleman burglar, will return when the furniture is genuine."</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , it 's like saying a burglar secretly robbed your house... Like he 's really going to send you a postcard saying , " Tonight when you go to the movies , I 'm going to pillage your apt. " .
" Ars   ne Lupin , gentleman burglar , will return when the furniture is genuine .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, it's like saying a burglar secretly robbed your house... Like he's really going to send you a postcard saying, "Tonight when you go to the movies, I'm going to pillage your apt.".
"Arsène Lupin, gentleman burglar, will return when the furniture is genuine.
"
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30391082</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30392322</id>
	<title>Re:This type of illegal activity?</title>
	<author>narcolepticjim</author>
	<datestamp>1260475500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not within the cloud itself. Incompleteness and all that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not within the cloud itself .
Incompleteness and all that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not within the cloud itself.
Incompleteness and all that.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30390736</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30392368</id>
	<title>Re:I'm just pwning your server if that's ok...</title>
	<author>gregarican</author>
	<datestamp>1260475620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Dude stop it, you're killing me. I mean it. STOP IT, YOU'RE KILLING ME! Oyyyyy....</htmltext>
<tokenext>Dude stop it , you 're killing me .
I mean it .
STOP IT , YOU 'RE KILLING ME !
Oyyyyy... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dude stop it, you're killing me.
I mean it.
STOP IT, YOU'RE KILLING ME!
Oyyyyy....</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30391460</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30393232</id>
	<title>Re:And?</title>
	<author>sjames</author>
	<datestamp>1260435900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><ul>
<li>Buzzword compliant: check</li><li>So far into the latest trend we can't even tell if it's real: check</li><li>Thinking so foggy that "the cloud" is spewing from your ears and covering your office floor like a bad horror film: check!</li></ul><p>There we have it. Metrics never lie! Looks like you're on a one way trip to the executive suite!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Buzzword compliant : checkSo far into the latest trend we ca n't even tell if it 's real : checkThinking so foggy that " the cloud " is spewing from your ears and covering your office floor like a bad horror film : check ! There we have it .
Metrics never lie !
Looks like you 're on a one way trip to the executive suite !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Buzzword compliant: checkSo far into the latest trend we can't even tell if it's real: checkThinking so foggy that "the cloud" is spewing from your ears and covering your office floor like a bad horror film: check!There we have it.
Metrics never lie!
Looks like you're on a one way trip to the executive suite!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30391252</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30391536</id>
	<title>Well, at least it isnt IRC...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260472680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...since we all know IRC is where hackers go to talk when they don't want to be overheard.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...since we all know IRC is where hackers go to talk when they do n't want to be overheard .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...since we all know IRC is where hackers go to talk when they don't want to be overheard.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30394214</id>
	<title>Brute Force ssh attacks from Amazon</title>
	<author>peterthomas2009</author>
	<datestamp>1260439920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>"This marks the first time Amazon Web Services' cloud infrastructure has been used for this type of illegal activity"
<br> <br>
I posted to my blog back in June that Amazon cloud nodes were compromised and performing brute force SSH scans against some of my hosts.
<br> <br>
This story and my post merely highlight the obvious fact that most cloud services are just scalable hosting. Remember your instance / slice / vm can be compromised like any other web host.
<br> <br>
<a href="http://hackertarget.com/2009/06/amazon-cloud-service-brute-force/" title="hackertarget.com" rel="nofollow">Amazon Cloud Service Brute Force Attacks</a> [hackertarget.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>" This marks the first time Amazon Web Services ' cloud infrastructure has been used for this type of illegal activity " I posted to my blog back in June that Amazon cloud nodes were compromised and performing brute force SSH scans against some of my hosts .
This story and my post merely highlight the obvious fact that most cloud services are just scalable hosting .
Remember your instance / slice / vm can be compromised like any other web host .
Amazon Cloud Service Brute Force Attacks [ hackertarget.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"This marks the first time Amazon Web Services' cloud infrastructure has been used for this type of illegal activity"
 
I posted to my blog back in June that Amazon cloud nodes were compromised and performing brute force SSH scans against some of my hosts.
This story and my post merely highlight the obvious fact that most cloud services are just scalable hosting.
Remember your instance / slice / vm can be compromised like any other web host.
Amazon Cloud Service Brute Force Attacks [hackertarget.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30391966</id>
	<title>Re:And?</title>
	<author>cHiphead</author>
	<datestamp>1260474240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I will use this verbatim at my next Technology Strategy meeting.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I will use this verbatim at my next Technology Strategy meeting .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I will use this verbatim at my next Technology Strategy meeting.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30391252</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30391616</id>
	<title>Re:And?</title>
	<author>ihuntrocks</author>
	<datestamp>1260472920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'd like to second this. I'd also like to point out that this applies to security as it relates to anything (cloud computing, Linux, apache, etc). Security is not a product. Security is a process. It is incumbent on administrators and engineers to ensure that they are aware of what they are doing with their technology, and what sort of implications it may have. <br> <br>

It does little good to build an impenetrable vault and leave the door open all the time.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd like to second this .
I 'd also like to point out that this applies to security as it relates to anything ( cloud computing , Linux , apache , etc ) .
Security is not a product .
Security is a process .
It is incumbent on administrators and engineers to ensure that they are aware of what they are doing with their technology , and what sort of implications it may have .
It does little good to build an impenetrable vault and leave the door open all the time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd like to second this.
I'd also like to point out that this applies to security as it relates to anything (cloud computing, Linux, apache, etc).
Security is not a product.
Security is a process.
It is incumbent on administrators and engineers to ensure that they are aware of what they are doing with their technology, and what sort of implications it may have.
It does little good to build an impenetrable vault and leave the door open all the time.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30390694</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30391428</id>
	<title>the interesting thing is autoscaling and billing</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260472320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>The interesting thing about this case, to me, is that Amazon's lawful customer will receive a bill in the mail for hacker usage charges.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The interesting thing about this case , to me , is that Amazon 's lawful customer will receive a bill in the mail for hacker usage charges .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The interesting thing about this case, to me, is that Amazon's lawful customer will receive a bill in the mail for hacker usage charges.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30395688</id>
	<title>Re:This type of illegal activity?</title>
	<author>Dan541</author>
	<datestamp>1260445200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> Is it even possible for anyone to find out all the possible illegal uses of technolgies like cloud computing?</p></div><p>Yes, because it's exactly the same as regular computing.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is it even possible for anyone to find out all the possible illegal uses of technolgies like cloud computing ? Yes , because it 's exactly the same as regular computing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Is it even possible for anyone to find out all the possible illegal uses of technolgies like cloud computing?Yes, because it's exactly the same as regular computing.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30390736</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30390704</id>
	<title>Re:If anything...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260470100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And the security of Linux... You see , Amazon uses Apache + Linux in their cloud computing system, so the zealots have told me that such an attack is in fact impossible<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;--)</htmltext>
<tokenext>And the security of Linux... You see , Amazon uses Apache + Linux in their cloud computing system , so the zealots have told me that such an attack is in fact impossible ; -- )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And the security of Linux... You see , Amazon uses Apache + Linux in their cloud computing system, so the zealots have told me that such an attack is in fact impossible ;--)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30390610</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30397224</id>
	<title>Re:I'm just pwning your server if that's ok...</title>
	<author>cecom</author>
	<datestamp>1260453360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think yours may be the best Slashdot post ever!!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think yours may be the best Slashdot post ever ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think yours may be the best Slashdot post ever!!
!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30391460</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30390694</id>
	<title>And?</title>
	<author>Kenja</author>
	<datestamp>1260470040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>There is nothing intrinsic to a cloud of computers that makes them any different then the internet in general. Anything that makes use of unprotected computers on the internet will make use of a cloud as well. In fact, from a logical perspective, the internet is a cloud. Its just that access is generally curtailed in some way.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There is nothing intrinsic to a cloud of computers that makes them any different then the internet in general .
Anything that makes use of unprotected computers on the internet will make use of a cloud as well .
In fact , from a logical perspective , the internet is a cloud .
Its just that access is generally curtailed in some way .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is nothing intrinsic to a cloud of computers that makes them any different then the internet in general.
Anything that makes use of unprotected computers on the internet will make use of a cloud as well.
In fact, from a logical perspective, the internet is a cloud.
Its just that access is generally curtailed in some way.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30390718</id>
	<title>Nothing really special</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260470100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hackers break into website, but it happens to be hosted on EC2. Hosting in cloud doesn't automagically make your sites more secure.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hackers break into website , but it happens to be hosted on EC2 .
Hosting in cloud does n't automagically make your sites more secure .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hackers break into website, but it happens to be hosted on EC2.
Hosting in cloud doesn't automagically make your sites more secure.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30393254</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing really special</title>
	<author>TooMuchToDo</author>
	<datestamp>1260436020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You'd have to identify the vulnerable section of your webapp, fix the code, destroy all your EC2 instances, and then have them all start up and rebuild based on your new, secure codebase. Good times!</htmltext>
<tokenext>You 'd have to identify the vulnerable section of your webapp , fix the code , destroy all your EC2 instances , and then have them all start up and rebuild based on your new , secure codebase .
Good times !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You'd have to identify the vulnerable section of your webapp, fix the code, destroy all your EC2 instances, and then have them all start up and rebuild based on your new, secure codebase.
Good times!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30390866</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30390914</id>
	<title>Re:If anything...</title>
	<author>hesaigo999ca</author>
	<datestamp>1260470700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not really, as everyone knows you have hotmail and gmail accounts that have commands updated each week for certain other types of botnet, so is that to spark a debate about whether or not we should allow hotmail or gmail, certainly not, however, it could go to show there should be a better security implementation on the servers hosting the clouds to quickly locate any compromised machines or code on the servers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not really , as everyone knows you have hotmail and gmail accounts that have commands updated each week for certain other types of botnet , so is that to spark a debate about whether or not we should allow hotmail or gmail , certainly not , however , it could go to show there should be a better security implementation on the servers hosting the clouds to quickly locate any compromised machines or code on the servers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not really, as everyone knows you have hotmail and gmail accounts that have commands updated each week for certain other types of botnet, so is that to spark a debate about whether or not we should allow hotmail or gmail, certainly not, however, it could go to show there should be a better security implementation on the servers hosting the clouds to quickly locate any compromised machines or code on the servers.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30390610</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30392258</id>
	<title>Re:Not Amazon that got hacked</title>
	<author>nacturation</author>
	<datestamp>1260475200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>According to the summary too: "The hackers got onto Amazon's infrastructure by hacking into <b>a Web site</b> hosted on Amazon's servers..."</p><p>No different than "a web site hosted on Rackspace's servers".  I agree with the other posts that this is essentially a non-news item.  So a server gets hacked.  It doesn't matter that the server is in someone's basement or in a colo or a VM somewhere.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>According to the summary too : " The hackers got onto Amazon 's infrastructure by hacking into a Web site hosted on Amazon 's servers... " No different than " a web site hosted on Rackspace 's servers " .
I agree with the other posts that this is essentially a non-news item .
So a server gets hacked .
It does n't matter that the server is in someone 's basement or in a colo or a VM somewhere .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>According to the summary too: "The hackers got onto Amazon's infrastructure by hacking into a Web site hosted on Amazon's servers..."No different than "a web site hosted on Rackspace's servers".
I agree with the other posts that this is essentially a non-news item.
So a server gets hacked.
It doesn't matter that the server is in someone's basement or in a colo or a VM somewhere.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30390798</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30392456</id>
	<title>thundercloud tag</title>
	<author>Luyseyal</author>
	<datestamp>1260475980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Thundercloud...  <a href="http://www.thundercloud.com/" title="thundercloud.com">subs</a> [thundercloud.com]?

</p><p>-l</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Thundercloud... subs [ thundercloud.com ] ?
-l</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thundercloud...  subs [thundercloud.com]?
-l</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30390766</id>
	<title>Re:If anything...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260470280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>apache was once great, but now it has a lot of leaks. if you want secure you should use nginx</htmltext>
<tokenext>apache was once great , but now it has a lot of leaks .
if you want secure you should use nginx</tokentext>
<sentencetext>apache was once great, but now it has a lot of leaks.
if you want secure you should use nginx</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30390704</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30392956</id>
	<title>Re:I'm just pwning your server if that's ok...</title>
	<author>Paracelcus</author>
	<datestamp>1260478080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Thank you, and yes I do think of you, often..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Thank you , and yes I do think of you , often. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thank you, and yes I do think of you, often..</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30391460</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30392050</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing really special</title>
	<author>DragonWriter</author>
	<datestamp>1260474480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I think the "special" part of the news is that since its being hosted on the cloud its harder to remove - since it'll be running on multiple computers capable of replicating itself across multiple machines. In order to purge it, you'd probably have to take down the entire infected cloud and clean it all seperately or at least all in synch.</p></div></blockquote><p>Or, more likely, just disable the affected virtual instances, and maybe all instances for the affected account (assuming that by violating the hosted instances security, the intruders gained full access to the account.) Only if they compromised EC2's own security to the extent of getting, essentially, administrative access to EC2, not just administrative access to a hosted instance, would the cloud itself be compromised.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think the " special " part of the news is that since its being hosted on the cloud its harder to remove - since it 'll be running on multiple computers capable of replicating itself across multiple machines .
In order to purge it , you 'd probably have to take down the entire infected cloud and clean it all seperately or at least all in synch.Or , more likely , just disable the affected virtual instances , and maybe all instances for the affected account ( assuming that by violating the hosted instances security , the intruders gained full access to the account .
) Only if they compromised EC2 's own security to the extent of getting , essentially , administrative access to EC2 , not just administrative access to a hosted instance , would the cloud itself be compromised .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think the "special" part of the news is that since its being hosted on the cloud its harder to remove - since it'll be running on multiple computers capable of replicating itself across multiple machines.
In order to purge it, you'd probably have to take down the entire infected cloud and clean it all seperately or at least all in synch.Or, more likely, just disable the affected virtual instances, and maybe all instances for the affected account (assuming that by violating the hosted instances security, the intruders gained full access to the account.
) Only if they compromised EC2's own security to the extent of getting, essentially, administrative access to EC2, not just administrative access to a hosted instance, would the cloud itself be compromised.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30390866</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30392186</id>
	<title>Re:I'm just pwning your server if that's ok...</title>
	<author>sheph</author>
	<datestamp>1260475020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What is even more humorous is that this was modded interesting.</htmltext>
<tokenext>What is even more humorous is that this was modded interesting .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What is even more humorous is that this was modded interesting.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30391460</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30393734</id>
	<title>You must be lost, sir.</title>
	<author>Divide By Zero</author>
	<datestamp>1260437760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Jeez, boss, get off Slashdot!  News for NERDS.  CIO Magazine has its own site.  <p>

I know you sign my performance reviews every year, but that doesn't mean you can invade my home like this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Jeez , boss , get off Slashdot !
News for NERDS .
CIO Magazine has its own site .
I know you sign my performance reviews every year , but that does n't mean you can invade my home like this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Jeez, boss, get off Slashdot!
News for NERDS.
CIO Magazine has its own site.
I know you sign my performance reviews every year, but that doesn't mean you can invade my home like this.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30391252</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30400288</id>
	<title>You must be lost, sir.</title>
	<author>clint999</author>
	<datestamp>1260538200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dude stop it, you're killing me. I mean it. STOP IT, YOU'RE KILLING ME! Oyyyyy....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dude stop it , you 're killing me .
I mean it .
STOP IT , YOU 'RE KILLING ME !
Oyyyyy... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dude stop it, you're killing me.
I mean it.
STOP IT, YOU'RE KILLING ME!
Oyyyyy....</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30391636</id>
	<title>Re:If anything...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260473040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In all fairness, its only systems that have been properly configured should be considered bullet-proof (including removing the plug from the wall).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In all fairness , its only systems that have been properly configured should be considered bullet-proof ( including removing the plug from the wall ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In all fairness, its only systems that have been properly configured should be considered bullet-proof (including removing the plug from the wall).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30390704</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30397554</id>
	<title>Hackers^H^H^H^H^H^H^HCrackers Find Home In Amazon</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260456360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext> Crackers, not Hackers</htmltext>
<tokenext>Crackers , not Hackers</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Crackers, not Hackers</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30394888</id>
	<title>Cloud bot</title>
	<author>nurb432</author>
	<datestamp>1260442260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>err wait...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>err wait.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>err wait...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30392298</id>
	<title>Used to inflate ratings?</title>
	<author>athowell</author>
	<datestamp>1260475380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I bet someone was using it to buff their ratings!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I bet someone was using it to buff their ratings !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bet someone was using it to buff their ratings!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30390736</id>
	<title>This type of illegal activity?</title>
	<author>quangdog</author>
	<datestamp>1260470160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>"This marks the first time Amazon Web Services' cloud infrastructure has been used for this type of illegal activity"
<br> <br>So, has it been used for other illegal things that have been reported on?  Is it even possible for anyone to find out all the possible illegal uses of technolgies like cloud computing?</htmltext>
<tokenext>" This marks the first time Amazon Web Services ' cloud infrastructure has been used for this type of illegal activity " So , has it been used for other illegal things that have been reported on ?
Is it even possible for anyone to find out all the possible illegal uses of technolgies like cloud computing ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"This marks the first time Amazon Web Services' cloud infrastructure has been used for this type of illegal activity"
 So, has it been used for other illegal things that have been reported on?
Is it even possible for anyone to find out all the possible illegal uses of technolgies like cloud computing?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30390610</id>
	<title>If anything...</title>
	<author>iamapizza</author>
	<datestamp>1260469680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is going to Kindle a debate about the merits and demerits of the cloud.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is going to Kindle a debate about the merits and demerits of the cloud .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is going to Kindle a debate about the merits and demerits of the cloud.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30398640</id>
	<title>Honeypot attacked over 2 years ago by EC2 Instance</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260470160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I had an astrix server honeypot being actively attacked and then compromised by Amazon EC2 instances. After making a bunch of calls to Amazon, it was confirmed that the instance had been compromised and the admins had been contacted. This was two years ago!</p><p>Let me see if I can find those emails...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I had an astrix server honeypot being actively attacked and then compromised by Amazon EC2 instances .
After making a bunch of calls to Amazon , it was confirmed that the instance had been compromised and the admins had been contacted .
This was two years ago ! Let me see if I can find those emails.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I had an astrix server honeypot being actively attacked and then compromised by Amazon EC2 instances.
After making a bunch of calls to Amazon, it was confirmed that the instance had been compromised and the admins had been contacted.
This was two years ago!Let me see if I can find those emails...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30390770</id>
	<title>Ready for prime time!</title>
	<author>HaeMaker</author>
	<datestamp>1260470280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You know, if bot net operators are trusting the EC2 cloud for their mission critical operations, it has to be ready for prime time.</p><p>This is a stunning endorsement.  Amazon should send out a press release.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You know , if bot net operators are trusting the EC2 cloud for their mission critical operations , it has to be ready for prime time.This is a stunning endorsement .
Amazon should send out a press release .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You know, if bot net operators are trusting the EC2 cloud for their mission critical operations, it has to be ready for prime time.This is a stunning endorsement.
Amazon should send out a press release.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30391460</id>
	<title>Re:I'm just pwning your server if that's ok...</title>
	<author>Monkeedude1212</author>
	<datestamp>1260472440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>When was the last time a criminal came up to your admin and said, "Hi, I'm going to install my unwanted rootkit on your server now so I can use it as a botnet."?</p></div><p>Yesterday. But since he wasn't asking a question, I couldn't say no. I advised him that his course of action was not one that I wished to occur and he politely informed me that it was "duly noted" and proceeded anyways. All in all, it was a nice verbal transaction and his posture was excellent, and I'm sure outside of his work he's a really nice guy. I wanted to ask him if he wanted to go for a couple of cold ones - but I think that might have been pushing it and didn't want to offend him.</p><p>To be honest, the thing that bugs me more than this backdoor to my machine is the regret that I never reached out to him more. A lost friendship, that will likely never have another chance at forming. Everytime that Antivirus XP pop-up comes on screen it reminds me of him. I've slowly come to realize that I am remembering him constantly, where he probably does not remember me at all. I shamefully admit that I cry myself to sleep, telling myself that one day he'll come back to me, and maybe out of remorse he'll remove the conficker and everything will be okay.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>When was the last time a criminal came up to your admin and said , " Hi , I 'm going to install my unwanted rootkit on your server now so I can use it as a botnet. " ? Yesterday .
But since he was n't asking a question , I could n't say no .
I advised him that his course of action was not one that I wished to occur and he politely informed me that it was " duly noted " and proceeded anyways .
All in all , it was a nice verbal transaction and his posture was excellent , and I 'm sure outside of his work he 's a really nice guy .
I wanted to ask him if he wanted to go for a couple of cold ones - but I think that might have been pushing it and did n't want to offend him.To be honest , the thing that bugs me more than this backdoor to my machine is the regret that I never reached out to him more .
A lost friendship , that will likely never have another chance at forming .
Everytime that Antivirus XP pop-up comes on screen it reminds me of him .
I 've slowly come to realize that I am remembering him constantly , where he probably does not remember me at all .
I shamefully admit that I cry myself to sleep , telling myself that one day he 'll come back to me , and maybe out of remorse he 'll remove the conficker and everything will be okay .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When was the last time a criminal came up to your admin and said, "Hi, I'm going to install my unwanted rootkit on your server now so I can use it as a botnet."?Yesterday.
But since he wasn't asking a question, I couldn't say no.
I advised him that his course of action was not one that I wished to occur and he politely informed me that it was "duly noted" and proceeded anyways.
All in all, it was a nice verbal transaction and his posture was excellent, and I'm sure outside of his work he's a really nice guy.
I wanted to ask him if he wanted to go for a couple of cold ones - but I think that might have been pushing it and didn't want to offend him.To be honest, the thing that bugs me more than this backdoor to my machine is the regret that I never reached out to him more.
A lost friendship, that will likely never have another chance at forming.
Everytime that Antivirus XP pop-up comes on screen it reminds me of him.
I've slowly come to realize that I am remembering him constantly, where he probably does not remember me at all.
I shamefully admit that I cry myself to sleep, telling myself that one day he'll come back to me, and maybe out of remorse he'll remove the conficker and everything will be okay.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30391082</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30395956</id>
	<title>Re:And?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260446220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, a "Cloud" is a Beowulf Cluster, you insensitive clod! I, for one welcome our hacked Beowulf Cluster overlords.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , a " Cloud " is a Beowulf Cluster , you insensitive clod !
I , for one welcome our hacked Beowulf Cluster overlords .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, a "Cloud" is a Beowulf Cluster, you insensitive clod!
I, for one welcome our hacked Beowulf Cluster overlords.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30390694</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30392296</id>
	<title>Re:And?</title>
	<author>CodeBuster</author>
	<datestamp>1260475380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The Cloud applications and Web Services to provide the ultimate platform upon which we can layer our business intelligence and reporting, because there are still a few verticals that we need to leverage before we can move to The Cloud 2.0.</p></div><p>Bingo!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Cloud applications and Web Services to provide the ultimate platform upon which we can layer our business intelligence and reporting , because there are still a few verticals that we need to leverage before we can move to The Cloud 2.0.Bingo !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Cloud applications and Web Services to provide the ultimate platform upon which we can layer our business intelligence and reporting, because there are still a few verticals that we need to leverage before we can move to The Cloud 2.0.Bingo!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30391252</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30391798</id>
	<title>Re:And?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260473640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You obviously know what you're talking about.  Since you have been so successful at taking charge of all this technology, I have decided to promote you to VP of technology marketing with a focus on leveraging Cloud solutions.  We need to start integrating this Cloud thing in all our products and you are best positioned to envision the roadmap for how to add value for our customers through next-generation Cloud solutions.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You obviously know what you 're talking about .
Since you have been so successful at taking charge of all this technology , I have decided to promote you to VP of technology marketing with a focus on leveraging Cloud solutions .
We need to start integrating this Cloud thing in all our products and you are best positioned to envision the roadmap for how to add value for our customers through next-generation Cloud solutions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You obviously know what you're talking about.
Since you have been so successful at taking charge of all this technology, I have decided to promote you to VP of technology marketing with a focus on leveraging Cloud solutions.
We need to start integrating this Cloud thing in all our products and you are best positioned to envision the roadmap for how to add value for our customers through next-generation Cloud solutions.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30391252</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30390720</id>
	<title>Re:If anything...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260470100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, it looks like I've been doing it wrong all this time.  I've been trying to hack the cloud with an axe.</p><p>I just keep whiffing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , it looks like I 've been doing it wrong all this time .
I 've been trying to hack the cloud with an axe.I just keep whiffing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, it looks like I've been doing it wrong all this time.
I've been trying to hack the cloud with an axe.I just keep whiffing.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30390610</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30392184</id>
	<title>Re:I'm just pwning your server if that's ok...</title>
	<author>electricbern</author>
	<datestamp>1260475020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You can always reconnect through Facebook.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You can always reconnect through Facebook .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can always reconnect through Facebook.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30391460</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30394562</id>
	<title>and we all know apache on windows is MORE secure</title>
	<author>CHRONOSS2008</author>
	<datestamp>1260441240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>/sarcasm</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>/sarcasm</tokentext>
<sentencetext>/sarcasm</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30390610</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30391438</id>
	<title>Re:I'm just pwning your server if that's ok...</title>
	<author>palegray.net</author>
	<datestamp>1260472320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>No, no! They kept it a secret from the other criminal gangs in the neighborhood, silly.</htmltext>
<tokenext>No , no !
They kept it a secret from the other criminal gangs in the neighborhood , silly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, no!
They kept it a secret from the other criminal gangs in the neighborhood, silly.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30391082</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30400960</id>
	<title>Whai I got back from Amazon...</title>
	<author>david.emery</author>
	<datestamp>1260543240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hello from Amazon.com.</p><p>We're sorry to hear you've experienced issues with the malware/penetration attempts coming from Amazon cloud computing servers.</p><p>The symptoms you've reported are consistent with malicious software (malware), such as a virus or spyware, installed on your computer. If your computer has been infected with this type of software, it can replace images in the Amazon.com advertisement slots or generate pop-up ads with images that are not intentionally inserted by Amazon or our advertising partners.</p><p><i>followed by a bunch of stuff relevant to delousing Windows desktops...</i></p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hello from Amazon.com.We 're sorry to hear you 've experienced issues with the malware/penetration attempts coming from Amazon cloud computing servers.The symptoms you 've reported are consistent with malicious software ( malware ) , such as a virus or spyware , installed on your computer .
If your computer has been infected with this type of software , it can replace images in the Amazon.com advertisement slots or generate pop-up ads with images that are not intentionally inserted by Amazon or our advertising partners.followed by a bunch of stuff relevant to delousing Windows desktops.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hello from Amazon.com.We're sorry to hear you've experienced issues with the malware/penetration attempts coming from Amazon cloud computing servers.The symptoms you've reported are consistent with malicious software (malware), such as a virus or spyware, installed on your computer.
If your computer has been infected with this type of software, it can replace images in the Amazon.com advertisement slots or generate pop-up ads with images that are not intentionally inserted by Amazon or our advertising partners.followed by a bunch of stuff relevant to delousing Windows desktops...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30395138</id>
	<title>Re:the interesting thing is autoscaling and billin</title>
	<author>bangzilla</author>
	<datestamp>1260443220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Which is no different than any system that gets hacked/taken over. There is a cost associated with the intrusions *somewhere* along the way. It may be a 3rd party hosting charge, bandwidth or just your time (which may be considerable) in repairing graffiti, clearing your good name etc.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Which is no different than any system that gets hacked/taken over .
There is a cost associated with the intrusions * somewhere * along the way .
It may be a 3rd party hosting charge , bandwidth or just your time ( which may be considerable ) in repairing graffiti , clearing your good name etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Which is no different than any system that gets hacked/taken over.
There is a cost associated with the intrusions *somewhere* along the way.
It may be a 3rd party hosting charge, bandwidth or just your time (which may be considerable) in repairing graffiti, clearing your good name etc.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30391428</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30391252</id>
	<title>Re:And?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260471720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wait a minute. I'm a manager, and I've been reading a lot of case studies and watching a lot of webcasts about The Cloud. Based on all of this glorious marketing literature, I, as a manager, have absolutely no reason to doubt the safety of any data put in The Cloud.</p><p>The case studies all use words like "secure", "MD5", "RSS feeds" and "encryption" to describe the security of The Cloud. I don't know about you, but that sounds damn secure to me! Some Clouds even use SSL and HTTP. That's rock solid in my book.</p><p>And don't forget that you have to use Web Services to access The Cloud. Nothing is more secure than SOA and Web Services, with the exception of perhaps SaaS. But I think that Cloud Services 2.0 will combine the tiers into an MVC-compliant stack that uses SaaS to increase the security and partitioning of the data.</p><p>My main concern isn't with the security of The Cloud, but rather with getting my Indian team to learn all about it so we can deploy some first-generation The Cloud applications and Web Services to provide the ultimate platform upon which we can layer our business intelligence and reporting, because there are still a few verticals that we need to leverage before we can move to The Cloud 2.0.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wait a minute .
I 'm a manager , and I 've been reading a lot of case studies and watching a lot of webcasts about The Cloud .
Based on all of this glorious marketing literature , I , as a manager , have absolutely no reason to doubt the safety of any data put in The Cloud.The case studies all use words like " secure " , " MD5 " , " RSS feeds " and " encryption " to describe the security of The Cloud .
I do n't know about you , but that sounds damn secure to me !
Some Clouds even use SSL and HTTP .
That 's rock solid in my book.And do n't forget that you have to use Web Services to access The Cloud .
Nothing is more secure than SOA and Web Services , with the exception of perhaps SaaS .
But I think that Cloud Services 2.0 will combine the tiers into an MVC-compliant stack that uses SaaS to increase the security and partitioning of the data.My main concern is n't with the security of The Cloud , but rather with getting my Indian team to learn all about it so we can deploy some first-generation The Cloud applications and Web Services to provide the ultimate platform upon which we can layer our business intelligence and reporting , because there are still a few verticals that we need to leverage before we can move to The Cloud 2.0 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wait a minute.
I'm a manager, and I've been reading a lot of case studies and watching a lot of webcasts about The Cloud.
Based on all of this glorious marketing literature, I, as a manager, have absolutely no reason to doubt the safety of any data put in The Cloud.The case studies all use words like "secure", "MD5", "RSS feeds" and "encryption" to describe the security of The Cloud.
I don't know about you, but that sounds damn secure to me!
Some Clouds even use SSL and HTTP.
That's rock solid in my book.And don't forget that you have to use Web Services to access The Cloud.
Nothing is more secure than SOA and Web Services, with the exception of perhaps SaaS.
But I think that Cloud Services 2.0 will combine the tiers into an MVC-compliant stack that uses SaaS to increase the security and partitioning of the data.My main concern isn't with the security of The Cloud, but rather with getting my Indian team to learn all about it so we can deploy some first-generation The Cloud applications and Web Services to provide the ultimate platform upon which we can layer our business intelligence and reporting, because there are still a few verticals that we need to leverage before we can move to The Cloud 2.0.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30390694</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30390976</id>
	<title>This is not new</title>
	<author>ub3r n3u7r4l1st</author>
	<datestamp>1260470880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you search "Xbox Host booting" on YouTube, there are hundreds of videos showing you how to utilize the mass computing power of the cloud to knock your opponent off from a Halo 3 session and get the win.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you search " Xbox Host booting " on YouTube , there are hundreds of videos showing you how to utilize the mass computing power of the cloud to knock your opponent off from a Halo 3 session and get the win .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you search "Xbox Host booting" on YouTube, there are hundreds of videos showing you how to utilize the mass computing power of the cloud to knock your opponent off from a Halo 3 session and get the win.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30395646</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing really special</title>
	<author>Dan541</author>
	<datestamp>1260445080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Alternatively you can just terminate the instance. Far easier than disconnecting a physical machine.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Alternatively you can just terminate the instance .
Far easier than disconnecting a physical machine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Alternatively you can just terminate the instance.
Far easier than disconnecting a physical machine.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30390866</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30394802</id>
	<title>I'm (still) seeing penetration attempts</title>
	<author>david.emery</author>
	<datestamp>1260441960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm seeing attempts to access a bunch of non-existent but suspicious files on my server (most recent at 12:32 EST today)</p><p>mydomain.com/<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; install.txt , cart, zencart, zen-cart, zen, shop, bulk, zcart, shop2, catalog, mobile, iphone, mobi, m, boutique, cart, store</p><p>None of these things exist on my server, and it -might be the case- that a legitimate web crawler would look for mobile web customizations in mobile, mobi, iphone or even m, the rest of these make absolutely no sense for anything other than nefarious purposes...</p><p>I'm also seeing attacks against<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; phpMyAdmin, phpmyadmin, mysql, ok.txt</p><p>(There are some significant advantages to running a "dumb" webserver without ASP, PHP, JSP, etc<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p><p>I need to figure out a way to have a 'blacklist file', such that any attempt to access these files adds the requester to a blacklist.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm seeing attempts to access a bunch of non-existent but suspicious files on my server ( most recent at 12 : 32 EST today ) mydomain.com/       install.txt , cart , zencart , zen-cart , zen , shop , bulk , zcart , shop2 , catalog , mobile , iphone , mobi , m , boutique , cart , storeNone of these things exist on my server , and it -might be the case- that a legitimate web crawler would look for mobile web customizations in mobile , mobi , iphone or even m , the rest of these make absolutely no sense for anything other than nefarious purposes...I 'm also seeing attacks against         phpMyAdmin , phpmyadmin , mysql , ok.txt ( There are some significant advantages to running a " dumb " webserver without ASP , PHP , JSP , etc : - ) I need to figure out a way to have a 'blacklist file ' , such that any attempt to access these files adds the requester to a blacklist .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm seeing attempts to access a bunch of non-existent but suspicious files on my server (most recent at 12:32 EST today)mydomain.com/
      install.txt , cart, zencart, zen-cart, zen, shop, bulk, zcart, shop2, catalog, mobile, iphone, mobi, m, boutique, cart, storeNone of these things exist on my server, and it -might be the case- that a legitimate web crawler would look for mobile web customizations in mobile, mobi, iphone or even m, the rest of these make absolutely no sense for anything other than nefarious purposes...I'm also seeing attacks against
        phpMyAdmin, phpmyadmin, mysql, ok.txt(There are some significant advantages to running a "dumb" webserver without ASP, PHP, JSP, etc :-)I need to figure out a way to have a 'blacklist file', such that any attempt to access these files adds the requester to a blacklist.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30395776</id>
	<title>Re:And?</title>
	<author>JumpDrive</author>
	<datestamp>1260445500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Damn, you didn't miss a meeting did you?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Damn , you did n't miss a meeting did you ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Damn, you didn't miss a meeting did you?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30391252</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30391138</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing really special</title>
	<author>nametaken</author>
	<datestamp>1260471420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But it does mean that Amazon can shut down the compromised instances.  That's where the up's and down's come in.  I'm happy if they shut someone else off.  I get a big-brother feeling if they shut mine off.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But it does mean that Amazon can shut down the compromised instances .
That 's where the up 's and down 's come in .
I 'm happy if they shut someone else off .
I get a big-brother feeling if they shut mine off .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But it does mean that Amazon can shut down the compromised instances.
That's where the up's and down's come in.
I'm happy if they shut someone else off.
I get a big-brother feeling if they shut mine off.
:)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30390718</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30391082</id>
	<title>I'm just pwning your server if that's ok...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260471240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>I love that "<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...then secretly installing their command and control infrastructure." statement.<br>When was the last time a criminal came up to your admin and said, "Hi, I'm going to install my unwanted rootkit on your server now so I can use it as a botnet."?<br>Yeah, it's like saying a burglar secretly robbed your house... Like he's really going to send you a postcard saying, "Tonight when you go to the movies, I'm going to pillage your apt.".</htmltext>
<tokenext>I love that " ...then secretly installing their command and control infrastructure .
" statement.When was the last time a criminal came up to your admin and said , " Hi , I 'm going to install my unwanted rootkit on your server now so I can use it as a botnet .
" ? Yeah , it 's like saying a burglar secretly robbed your house... Like he 's really going to send you a postcard saying , " Tonight when you go to the movies , I 'm going to pillage your apt .
" .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I love that " ...then secretly installing their command and control infrastructure.
" statement.When was the last time a criminal came up to your admin and said, "Hi, I'm going to install my unwanted rootkit on your server now so I can use it as a botnet.
"?Yeah, it's like saying a burglar secretly robbed your house... Like he's really going to send you a postcard saying, "Tonight when you go to the movies, I'm going to pillage your apt.
".</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30391566</id>
	<title>Yes.</title>
	<author>svtdragon</author>
	<datestamp>1260472800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Is it even possible for anyone to find out all the possible illegal uses of technolgies like cloud computing?</p></div><p>Yes.  They're exactly the same as all the possible illegal uses of any other kind of computing.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is it even possible for anyone to find out all the possible illegal uses of technolgies like cloud computing ? Yes .
They 're exactly the same as all the possible illegal uses of any other kind of computing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is it even possible for anyone to find out all the possible illegal uses of technolgies like cloud computing?Yes.
They're exactly the same as all the possible illegal uses of any other kind of computing.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30390736</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30392842</id>
	<title>Re:If anything...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260477660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, of course it has nothing to do with the code that was created by a 3rd party and was running on these servers.  Nope, no way!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , of course it has nothing to do with the code that was created by a 3rd party and was running on these servers .
Nope , no way !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, of course it has nothing to do with the code that was created by a 3rd party and was running on these servers.
Nope, no way!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30390704</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30390798</id>
	<title>Not Amazon that got hacked</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260470340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>According to the article it was not Amazon itself that got hacked but an "unidentified website on Amazon's cloud" that got hacked.  The hackers then used that website to get onto the cloud and execute code.</htmltext>
<tokenext>According to the article it was not Amazon itself that got hacked but an " unidentified website on Amazon 's cloud " that got hacked .
The hackers then used that website to get onto the cloud and execute code .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>According to the article it was not Amazon itself that got hacked but an "unidentified website on Amazon's cloud" that got hacked.
The hackers then used that website to get onto the cloud and execute code.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30392900</id>
	<title>Re:If anything...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260477900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I lolled.  Whiffing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I lolled .
Whiffing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I lolled.
Whiffing.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30390720</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30391386</id>
	<title>Re:If anything...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260472140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>EC2 instances will run Windows.</htmltext>
<tokenext>EC2 instances will run Windows .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>EC2 instances will run Windows.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30390704</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30394612</id>
	<title>This is new?</title>
	<author>digitalgimpus</author>
	<datestamp>1260441480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Is this new?

Various AWS based IP's have been trying to hookup with my server by fondling it's SSH port for a while now.

Damn AWS perverts.  Can't keep their sockets and packets to themselves.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is this new ?
Various AWS based IP 's have been trying to hookup with my server by fondling it 's SSH port for a while now .
Damn AWS perverts .
Ca n't keep their sockets and packets to themselves .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is this new?
Various AWS based IP's have been trying to hookup with my server by fondling it's SSH port for a while now.
Damn AWS perverts.
Can't keep their sockets and packets to themselves.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30392038</id>
	<title>WHAT????</title>
	<author>Colin Smith</author>
	<datestamp>1260474480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Hosting in cloud doesn't automagically make your sites more secure.</p></div><p>You mean... I still have to have people who can "manage" my systems?</p><p>NOOOO!!!!<br>
&nbsp;</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hosting in cloud does n't automagically make your sites more secure.You mean... I still have to have people who can " manage " my systems ? NOOOO ! ! ! !
 </tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hosting in cloud doesn't automagically make your sites more secure.You mean... I still have to have people who can "manage" my systems?NOOOO!!!!
 
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30390718</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30390866</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing really special</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260470520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think the "special" part of the news is that since its being hosted on the cloud its harder to remove - since it'll be running on multiple computers capable of replicating itself across multiple machines. In order to purge it, you'd probably have to take down the entire infected cloud and clean it all seperately or at least all in synch.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think the " special " part of the news is that since its being hosted on the cloud its harder to remove - since it 'll be running on multiple computers capable of replicating itself across multiple machines .
In order to purge it , you 'd probably have to take down the entire infected cloud and clean it all seperately or at least all in synch .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think the "special" part of the news is that since its being hosted on the cloud its harder to remove - since it'll be running on multiple computers capable of replicating itself across multiple machines.
In order to purge it, you'd probably have to take down the entire infected cloud and clean it all seperately or at least all in synch.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30390718</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30392460</id>
	<title>Yes, yes it is</title>
	<author>tacokill</author>
	<datestamp>1260475980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>Is it even possible for anyone to find out all the possible illegal uses of technolgies like cloud computing?</i>
<br>
<br>
Yes, it is possible.  However, it is the same as trying to win a war against jealousy or envy.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is it even possible for anyone to find out all the possible illegal uses of technolgies like cloud computing ?
Yes , it is possible .
However , it is the same as trying to win a war against jealousy or envy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is it even possible for anyone to find out all the possible illegal uses of technolgies like cloud computing?
Yes, it is possible.
However, it is the same as trying to win a war against jealousy or envy.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30390736</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30391660</id>
	<title>IIS</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260473160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's what they get for using windows.  Every windows box in existence has been compromised seconds after hooking it up to the internet</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's what they get for using windows .
Every windows box in existence has been compromised seconds after hooking it up to the internet</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's what they get for using windows.
Every windows box in existence has been compromised seconds after hooking it up to the internet</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30399474</id>
	<title>Re:I'm (still) seeing penetration attempts</title>
	<author>Slashcrap</author>
	<datestamp>1260527040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>(There are some significant advantages to running a "dumb" webserver without ASP, PHP, JSP, etc<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p><p>I need to figure out a way to have a 'blacklist file', such that any attempt to access these files adds the requester to a blacklist.</p></div><p>Get a less dumb webserver?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>( There are some significant advantages to running a " dumb " webserver without ASP , PHP , JSP , etc : - ) I need to figure out a way to have a 'blacklist file ' , such that any attempt to access these files adds the requester to a blacklist.Get a less dumb webserver ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>(There are some significant advantages to running a "dumb" webserver without ASP, PHP, JSP, etc :-)I need to figure out a way to have a 'blacklist file', such that any attempt to access these files adds the requester to a blacklist.Get a less dumb webserver?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30394802</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30397810</id>
	<title>Ummm.. did I miss the news portion of this?</title>
	<author>thePowerOfGrayskull</author>
	<datestamp>1260458460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>VMs have been compromised through some exploit that has nothing to do with Amazon.  The exploit allowed C&amp;C component of a botnet to lodge itself into the hosting machine(s).  And<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... it's news because Amazon is hosting?  The machines are only as secure as the images provided to Amazon, are they not?</htmltext>
<tokenext>VMs have been compromised through some exploit that has nothing to do with Amazon .
The exploit allowed C&amp;C component of a botnet to lodge itself into the hosting machine ( s ) .
And ... it 's news because Amazon is hosting ?
The machines are only as secure as the images provided to Amazon , are they not ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>VMs have been compromised through some exploit that has nothing to do with Amazon.
The exploit allowed C&amp;C component of a botnet to lodge itself into the hosting machine(s).
And ... it's news because Amazon is hosting?
The machines are only as secure as the images provided to Amazon, are they not?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30410430</id>
	<title>Re:I'm (still) seeing penetration attempts</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260548340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>you can use <a href="http://psad.sourceforge.net/" title="sourceforge.net" rel="nofollow">psad</a> [sourceforge.net] to blacklist people making bogus requests</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>you can use psad [ sourceforge.net ] to blacklist people making bogus requests</tokentext>
<sentencetext>you can use psad [sourceforge.net] to blacklist people making bogus requests</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30394802</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30394742</id>
	<title>Re:I'm just pwning your server if that's ok...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260441780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What are you babbling about? Your post is unfunny and nonsensical to boot.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What are you babbling about ?
Your post is unfunny and nonsensical to boot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What are you babbling about?
Your post is unfunny and nonsensical to boot.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_1627246.30391460</parent>
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