<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_12_10_0231228</id>
	<title>Samsung Enters Smartphone Wars With Bada OS</title>
	<author>samzenpus</author>
	<datestamp>1260449820000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="http://hothardware.com/" rel="nofollow">MojoKid</a> writes <i>"Samsung is betting there's room for more in the smartphone market and has <a href="http://hothardware.com/News/Samsung-Enters-Smartphone-Wars-With-Interactive-OS/">unveiled its new bada OS</a>.  The name 'bada,' means 'ocean' in Korean and was chosen to convey the 'limitless variety of potential applications which can be created using the new platform.' Samsung claims the OS is extremely simple for developers, saying that bada was built to be extremely interactive with its users &mdash; including flash control, motion sensing, fine-tuned vibration control and face detection. Samsung is hoping developers will take this user interface and create a variety of applications focused around it, and thus provide different types of apps than exist for the iPhone and Android OS. The bada OS has a variety of sensors, including accelerometers, tilt, weather, proximity and activity. Samsung will be hosting a series of Developer Days in Seoul, London and San Francisco, among other cities, throughout 2010."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>MojoKid writes " Samsung is betting there 's room for more in the smartphone market and has unveiled its new bada OS .
The name 'bada, ' means 'ocean ' in Korean and was chosen to convey the 'limitless variety of potential applications which can be created using the new platform .
' Samsung claims the OS is extremely simple for developers , saying that bada was built to be extremely interactive with its users    including flash control , motion sensing , fine-tuned vibration control and face detection .
Samsung is hoping developers will take this user interface and create a variety of applications focused around it , and thus provide different types of apps than exist for the iPhone and Android OS .
The bada OS has a variety of sensors , including accelerometers , tilt , weather , proximity and activity .
Samsung will be hosting a series of Developer Days in Seoul , London and San Francisco , among other cities , throughout 2010 .
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<sentencetext>MojoKid writes "Samsung is betting there's room for more in the smartphone market and has unveiled its new bada OS.
The name 'bada,' means 'ocean' in Korean and was chosen to convey the 'limitless variety of potential applications which can be created using the new platform.
' Samsung claims the OS is extremely simple for developers, saying that bada was built to be extremely interactive with its users — including flash control, motion sensing, fine-tuned vibration control and face detection.
Samsung is hoping developers will take this user interface and create a variety of applications focused around it, and thus provide different types of apps than exist for the iPhone and Android OS.
The bada OS has a variety of sensors, including accelerometers, tilt, weather, proximity and activity.
Samsung will be hosting a series of Developer Days in Seoul, London and San Francisco, among other cities, throughout 2010.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30398058</id>
	<title>iPhone confused companies</title>
	<author>Ilgaz</author>
	<datestamp>1260461100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think these company execs thinks iPhone OS X is a "new" OS.</p><p>iPhone OS X is in fact; 40 years old Unix, 20-25 year old NeXT running Mach Kernel along with a big collection of open source software which aren't really "newly invented". That is the most amazing part of iPhone success which everyone seems to miss. The most trendy, innovative device runs on a very conservative OS.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think these company execs thinks iPhone OS X is a " new " OS.iPhone OS X is in fact ; 40 years old Unix , 20-25 year old NeXT running Mach Kernel along with a big collection of open source software which are n't really " newly invented " .
That is the most amazing part of iPhone success which everyone seems to miss .
The most trendy , innovative device runs on a very conservative OS .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think these company execs thinks iPhone OS X is a "new" OS.iPhone OS X is in fact; 40 years old Unix, 20-25 year old NeXT running Mach Kernel along with a big collection of open source software which aren't really "newly invented".
That is the most amazing part of iPhone success which everyone seems to miss.
The most trendy, innovative device runs on a very conservative OS.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30398034</id>
	<title>Linux is the new magic</title>
	<author>Ilgaz</author>
	<datestamp>1260460740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There is a mysterious trend that having Linux on a device automatically grants you thousands of applications.</p><p>I see the same thing on Symbian land too. These people, including the suits making these decisions have no clue about the Linux. Of course, there is a huge and healthy application scene on Linux but we don't speak about desktop here. If the large software library of desktop instantly translated to mobile, Windows Mobile would have million apps now.</p><p>I don't even bother about commercial third party apps. For example will Microsoft release a full feature Live Messenger on a Linux powered device? Will Adobe spare time&amp;money to Flash on that OS while their hands are already full? What about<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.NET? Trolltech (Nokia) Qt? J2ME?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There is a mysterious trend that having Linux on a device automatically grants you thousands of applications.I see the same thing on Symbian land too .
These people , including the suits making these decisions have no clue about the Linux .
Of course , there is a huge and healthy application scene on Linux but we do n't speak about desktop here .
If the large software library of desktop instantly translated to mobile , Windows Mobile would have million apps now.I do n't even bother about commercial third party apps .
For example will Microsoft release a full feature Live Messenger on a Linux powered device ?
Will Adobe spare time&amp;money to Flash on that OS while their hands are already full ?
What about .NET ?
Trolltech ( Nokia ) Qt ?
J2ME ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is a mysterious trend that having Linux on a device automatically grants you thousands of applications.I see the same thing on Symbian land too.
These people, including the suits making these decisions have no clue about the Linux.
Of course, there is a huge and healthy application scene on Linux but we don't speak about desktop here.
If the large software library of desktop instantly translated to mobile, Windows Mobile would have million apps now.I don't even bother about commercial third party apps.
For example will Microsoft release a full feature Live Messenger on a Linux powered device?
Will Adobe spare time&amp;money to Flash on that OS while their hands are already full?
What about .NET?
Trolltech (Nokia) Qt?
J2ME?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30406054</id>
	<title>What the hell is up with the developer sign up?</title>
	<author>BravoZuluM</author>
	<datestamp>1260565140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That is one of the worst web sites for signing up.  It seems that you have to be a Samsung developer and then you get to reenter all the same information to become a bada developer?  I finally get everything filled out and submit.  I get a 404 error.  Will the web developer who created that abomination please stand up and be recognized so that we can laugh at your skills?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That is one of the worst web sites for signing up .
It seems that you have to be a Samsung developer and then you get to reenter all the same information to become a bada developer ?
I finally get everything filled out and submit .
I get a 404 error .
Will the web developer who created that abomination please stand up and be recognized so that we can laugh at your skills ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That is one of the worst web sites for signing up.
It seems that you have to be a Samsung developer and then you get to reenter all the same information to become a bada developer?
I finally get everything filled out and submit.
I get a 404 error.
Will the web developer who created that abomination please stand up and be recognized so that we can laugh at your skills?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30394932</id>
	<title>Re:Marketing gem</title>
	<author>noidentity</author>
	<datestamp>1260442380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wow, Samsung's Bada website has a <a href="http://www.bada.com/" title="bada.com">456K background image on the front page</a> [bada.com], mostly of water ripples. I guess it's not meant to be viewed on a mobile connection...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow , Samsung 's Bada website has a 456K background image on the front page [ bada.com ] , mostly of water ripples .
I guess it 's not meant to be viewed on a mobile connection.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow, Samsung's Bada website has a 456K background image on the front page [bada.com], mostly of water ripples.
I guess it's not meant to be viewed on a mobile connection...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30387584</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30387156</id>
	<title>Re:Oh goody!</title>
	<author>xSauronx</author>
	<datestamp>1260454620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>seriously. i bought a delve because with us cellular at the time my only affordable options were the touchscreen delve or the blackberry curve 8830 or some such. the delve has a gps in it, i didnt travel enough to buy a stand alone, so i thought...nice. i cant use the gps when im roaming, at all, its completely useless. i wasnt told this when i purchased it. i dont need local gps...im from local. when i complained later the sales rep giggled. what a jackass.</p><p>the delve is a worthless piece of garbage and ill be buying a blackberry after new years.the delve is slow, regularly freezes and sometimes hard locks, the interface is crap, some things are in stupid places....it was justa  horrible decision on my part, even though reviews i read said it wasnt a bad phone at all.</p><p>ill never buy another samsung phone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>seriously .
i bought a delve because with us cellular at the time my only affordable options were the touchscreen delve or the blackberry curve 8830 or some such .
the delve has a gps in it , i didnt travel enough to buy a stand alone , so i thought...nice .
i cant use the gps when im roaming , at all , its completely useless .
i wasnt told this when i purchased it .
i dont need local gps...im from local .
when i complained later the sales rep giggled .
what a jackass.the delve is a worthless piece of garbage and ill be buying a blackberry after new years.the delve is slow , regularly freezes and sometimes hard locks , the interface is crap , some things are in stupid places....it was justa horrible decision on my part , even though reviews i read said it wasnt a bad phone at all.ill never buy another samsung phone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>seriously.
i bought a delve because with us cellular at the time my only affordable options were the touchscreen delve or the blackberry curve 8830 or some such.
the delve has a gps in it, i didnt travel enough to buy a stand alone, so i thought...nice.
i cant use the gps when im roaming, at all, its completely useless.
i wasnt told this when i purchased it.
i dont need local gps...im from local.
when i complained later the sales rep giggled.
what a jackass.the delve is a worthless piece of garbage and ill be buying a blackberry after new years.the delve is slow, regularly freezes and sometimes hard locks, the interface is crap, some things are in stupid places....it was justa  horrible decision on my part, even though reviews i read said it wasnt a bad phone at all.ill never buy another samsung phone.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30387046</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30387586</id>
	<title>I knew this was coming...</title>
	<author>Jainith</author>
	<datestamp>1260457560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Can you find it on Bing?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Can you find it on Bing ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can you find it on Bing?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30387562</id>
	<title>Re:OS wars are over</title>
	<author>Aladrin</author>
	<datestamp>1260457380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's not truly an OS.  It can run either on a Linux-based kernel or another, and which they choose depends on the hardware configuration for some reason.  It's more of a series of layers on top of an OS.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not truly an OS .
It can run either on a Linux-based kernel or another , and which they choose depends on the hardware configuration for some reason .
It 's more of a series of layers on top of an OS .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not truly an OS.
It can run either on a Linux-based kernel or another, and which they choose depends on the hardware configuration for some reason.
It's more of a series of layers on top of an OS.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30387058</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30393618</id>
	<title>Random tangential thought</title>
	<author>Reality Master 101</author>
	<datestamp>1260437280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is only barely related to this article, but hey... this is Slashdot.</p><p>Reading the word <i>Ocean</i> it struck me odd that it's two syllables. Generally, the older and more basic the concept, the shorter the word. But then I recalled that "sea" was another name for ocean, which is about as basic as sounds can be for something.</p><p>Then something struck me about that word: the sounds kind of sound like it describes, wind and waves splashing. Could the word 'sea' actually be an onomatopoeia? The dictionary doesn't really help me out on the question, but it seems like it could be.</p><p>Anyway, I know return you to your regularly scheduled article on cell phones.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is only barely related to this article , but hey... this is Slashdot.Reading the word Ocean it struck me odd that it 's two syllables .
Generally , the older and more basic the concept , the shorter the word .
But then I recalled that " sea " was another name for ocean , which is about as basic as sounds can be for something.Then something struck me about that word : the sounds kind of sound like it describes , wind and waves splashing .
Could the word 'sea ' actually be an onomatopoeia ?
The dictionary does n't really help me out on the question , but it seems like it could be.Anyway , I know return you to your regularly scheduled article on cell phones .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is only barely related to this article, but hey... this is Slashdot.Reading the word Ocean it struck me odd that it's two syllables.
Generally, the older and more basic the concept, the shorter the word.
But then I recalled that "sea" was another name for ocean, which is about as basic as sounds can be for something.Then something struck me about that word: the sounds kind of sound like it describes, wind and waves splashing.
Could the word 'sea' actually be an onomatopoeia?
The dictionary doesn't really help me out on the question, but it seems like it could be.Anyway, I know return you to your regularly scheduled article on cell phones.
:)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30387058</id>
	<title>OS wars are over</title>
	<author>OrangeTide</author>
	<datestamp>1260453720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We figured out in the 1990s that writing your own OS every couple of years doesn't scale. You just end up isolating your developers from the rest of the industry.</p><p>I've written a few worthless OSes myself. One of them actually gets used still. But I wrote it out of desperation, not as a business model.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We figured out in the 1990s that writing your own OS every couple of years does n't scale .
You just end up isolating your developers from the rest of the industry.I 've written a few worthless OSes myself .
One of them actually gets used still .
But I wrote it out of desperation , not as a business model .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We figured out in the 1990s that writing your own OS every couple of years doesn't scale.
You just end up isolating your developers from the rest of the industry.I've written a few worthless OSes myself.
One of them actually gets used still.
But I wrote it out of desperation, not as a business model.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30387936</id>
	<title>I hear they are teaming up with Microsoft</title>
	<author>Orlando</author>
	<datestamp>1260459900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>..to implement their search functionality directly into the OS.  (wait for it)  It will be called -</p><p>BadaBing.</p><p>Thank you! I'll be here all week! Try the veal!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>..to implement their search functionality directly into the OS .
( wait for it ) It will be called -BadaBing.Thank you !
I 'll be here all week !
Try the veal !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>..to implement their search functionality directly into the OS.
(wait for it)  It will be called -BadaBing.Thank you!
I'll be here all week!
Try the veal!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30387828</id>
	<title>Re:One more Linux....</title>
	<author>cellurl</author>
	<datestamp>1260459180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Unfortunately if you have read the description for Chrome-OS, Chrome will probably be our future! It is simplier, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QRO3gKj3qw" title="youtube.com" rel="nofollow">no bios</a> [youtube.com], yadda, but relies on 100\% connectivity which is hard to believe and pay for....<br> So, go-Chrome or go-home I guess....<br> <br>

<a href="http://www.wikispeedia.org/" title="wikispeedia.org" rel="nofollow">35mph</a> [wikispeedia.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Unfortunately if you have read the description for Chrome-OS , Chrome will probably be our future !
It is simplier , no bios [ youtube.com ] , yadda , but relies on 100 \ % connectivity which is hard to believe and pay for.... So , go-Chrome or go-home I guess... . 35mph [ wikispeedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unfortunately if you have read the description for Chrome-OS, Chrome will probably be our future!
It is simplier, no bios [youtube.com], yadda, but relies on 100\% connectivity which is hard to believe and pay for.... So, go-Chrome or go-home I guess.... 

35mph [wikispeedia.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30392992</id>
	<title>Re:Oh goody!</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1260478260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hey, what&rsquo;s wrong with healthy competition? Do you prefer a Windows-like monoculture? Even a Linux monoculture would not be good.<br>Besides: If it&rsquo;s a great OS, then I welcome it.<br>If it is bad, it will fail anyway, because nobody will want to code for it.</p><p>The average user couldn&rsquo;t care less, what the OS on it is.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hey , what    s wrong with healthy competition ?
Do you prefer a Windows-like monoculture ?
Even a Linux monoculture would not be good.Besides : If it    s a great OS , then I welcome it.If it is bad , it will fail anyway , because nobody will want to code for it.The average user couldn    t care less , what the OS on it is .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hey, what’s wrong with healthy competition?
Do you prefer a Windows-like monoculture?
Even a Linux monoculture would not be good.Besides: If it’s a great OS, then I welcome it.If it is bad, it will fail anyway, because nobody will want to code for it.The average user couldn’t care less, what the OS on it is.
:)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30388296</id>
	<title>What?</title>
	<author>rickb928</author>
	<datestamp>1260461820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"The name 'bada,' means 'ocean' in Korean and was chosen to convey the '<i>limitless variety of potential applications</i> which can be created using the new platform.'"</p><p>That statement is almost as meaningless as this post.  Personally, I prefer actual applications to 'potential applications'.  Of course, would you release a new phone OS with a name that conveyed a <i>limited</i> variety of potential applications?  To heck with <i>actual</i> applications.</p><p>Deliver us from marketers.  What drivel.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" The name 'bada, ' means 'ocean ' in Korean and was chosen to convey the 'limitless variety of potential applications which can be created using the new platform .
' " That statement is almost as meaningless as this post .
Personally , I prefer actual applications to 'potential applications' .
Of course , would you release a new phone OS with a name that conveyed a limited variety of potential applications ?
To heck with actual applications.Deliver us from marketers .
What drivel .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"The name 'bada,' means 'ocean' in Korean and was chosen to convey the 'limitless variety of potential applications which can be created using the new platform.
'"That statement is almost as meaningless as this post.
Personally, I prefer actual applications to 'potential applications'.
Of course, would you release a new phone OS with a name that conveyed a limited variety of potential applications?
To heck with actual applications.Deliver us from marketers.
What drivel.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30387424</id>
	<title>Re:Sensors</title>
	<author>afex</author>
	<datestamp>1260456480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>on a site like<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. its assumed that you are techie enough to understand they mean that "the OS allows you to easily communicate/interface with (those) sensors."<br> <br>i'm more interested in what the "activity" sensor is...?</htmltext>
<tokenext>on a site like / .
its assumed that you are techie enough to understand they mean that " the OS allows you to easily communicate/interface with ( those ) sensors .
" i 'm more interested in what the " activity " sensor is... ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>on a site like /.
its assumed that you are techie enough to understand they mean that "the OS allows you to easily communicate/interface with (those) sensors.
" i'm more interested in what the "activity" sensor is...?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30387214</id>
	<title>Re:OS wars are over</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260455100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think you meant to type "we figured out at the beginning of the 20th century that standardisation, componentisation and reusability increases the market and reduces the learning curve for your product".</p><p>Except where it doesn't, and the lowest common denominator approach precludes innovation or holds back performance, tying you to the conventions and idiosyncrasies of a third party.</p><p>It is not that the operating system wars are "over", it's just that there was a fad in the 1990s to reimplement old operating systems, IOW to re-engineer the same concepts in OS textbooks since the 1960s. Most efforts, unsurprisingly, were interesting to no-one, and the developers in their hubris decided not to conclude that their attempt was worthless (except from an obvious educational point of view), but instead that the very idea of proposing a new OS was futile. Meanwhile, only for the general market, Linus who pronounces Linus as Linus produced Linux, Sun released the Java platform, Apple OS X, VMware its workstation, Microsoft produced CE, and this decade we have Google working on its massively parallel systems, Microsoft working on Midori, and so on. Each of these either run on bare metal or taking the advantage of the driver set of an existing operating system, the choice not influencing whether each of these has the right to be called an operating system (or, for VMware, an important component thereof).</p><p>Also, in my experience as an operating system enthusiast, I have met far too many people who have said they have written one or more toy operating systems, but show something that barely boots and that contains absolutely*no* new ideas whatever. It takes a weekend to write a BIOS real mode monitor to make your machine in some way usable.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think you meant to type " we figured out at the beginning of the 20th century that standardisation , componentisation and reusability increases the market and reduces the learning curve for your product " .Except where it does n't , and the lowest common denominator approach precludes innovation or holds back performance , tying you to the conventions and idiosyncrasies of a third party.It is not that the operating system wars are " over " , it 's just that there was a fad in the 1990s to reimplement old operating systems , IOW to re-engineer the same concepts in OS textbooks since the 1960s .
Most efforts , unsurprisingly , were interesting to no-one , and the developers in their hubris decided not to conclude that their attempt was worthless ( except from an obvious educational point of view ) , but instead that the very idea of proposing a new OS was futile .
Meanwhile , only for the general market , Linus who pronounces Linus as Linus produced Linux , Sun released the Java platform , Apple OS X , VMware its workstation , Microsoft produced CE , and this decade we have Google working on its massively parallel systems , Microsoft working on Midori , and so on .
Each of these either run on bare metal or taking the advantage of the driver set of an existing operating system , the choice not influencing whether each of these has the right to be called an operating system ( or , for VMware , an important component thereof ) .Also , in my experience as an operating system enthusiast , I have met far too many people who have said they have written one or more toy operating systems , but show something that barely boots and that contains absolutely * no * new ideas whatever .
It takes a weekend to write a BIOS real mode monitor to make your machine in some way usable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think you meant to type "we figured out at the beginning of the 20th century that standardisation, componentisation and reusability increases the market and reduces the learning curve for your product".Except where it doesn't, and the lowest common denominator approach precludes innovation or holds back performance, tying you to the conventions and idiosyncrasies of a third party.It is not that the operating system wars are "over", it's just that there was a fad in the 1990s to reimplement old operating systems, IOW to re-engineer the same concepts in OS textbooks since the 1960s.
Most efforts, unsurprisingly, were interesting to no-one, and the developers in their hubris decided not to conclude that their attempt was worthless (except from an obvious educational point of view), but instead that the very idea of proposing a new OS was futile.
Meanwhile, only for the general market, Linus who pronounces Linus as Linus produced Linux, Sun released the Java platform, Apple OS X, VMware its workstation, Microsoft produced CE, and this decade we have Google working on its massively parallel systems, Microsoft working on Midori, and so on.
Each of these either run on bare metal or taking the advantage of the driver set of an existing operating system, the choice not influencing whether each of these has the right to be called an operating system (or, for VMware, an important component thereof).Also, in my experience as an operating system enthusiast, I have met far too many people who have said they have written one or more toy operating systems, but show something that barely boots and that contains absolutely*no* new ideas whatever.
It takes a weekend to write a BIOS real mode monitor to make your machine in some way usable.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30391120</id>
	<title>Re:BadOS?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260471360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I bet Microsoft's search engine is well-integrated: Bada-Bing</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I bet Microsoft 's search engine is well-integrated : Bada-Bing</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bet Microsoft's search engine is well-integrated: Bada-Bing</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30387032</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30387228</id>
	<title>Re:Unlikely to come with Google search installed,</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260455220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>With a Big Bada Boom when it crashes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>With a Big Bada Boom when it crashes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With a Big Bada Boom when it crashes.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30387072</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30387378</id>
	<title>Ba nu!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260456300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, in my native language "Ba, da!" had a very clear, affirmative, reinforcing, meaning. Loosely, it translates into "wrong, it's yes!" to make the point that the answer is "yes" rather than "no".</p><p>So I can say "Ba, nu!" which emphasizes that the answer is "no" rather than "yes".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , in my native language " Ba , da !
" had a very clear , affirmative , reinforcing , meaning .
Loosely , it translates into " wrong , it 's yes !
" to make the point that the answer is " yes " rather than " no " .So I can say " Ba , nu !
" which emphasizes that the answer is " no " rather than " yes " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, in my native language "Ba, da!
" had a very clear, affirmative, reinforcing, meaning.
Loosely, it translates into "wrong, it's yes!
" to make the point that the answer is "yes" rather than "no".So I can say "Ba, nu!
" which emphasizes that the answer is "no" rather than "yes".</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30387154</id>
	<title>Samsung finally entered the smartphone arena?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260454620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'll be sure to tell my i760 that.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'll be sure to tell my i760 that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'll be sure to tell my i760 that.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30387584</id>
	<title>Marketing gem</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260457560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>From <a href="http://www.bada.com/" title="bada.com">the website</a> [bada.com] navigation menu: bada for business | bada for developers.<br> <br>Bada for Samsung, more like.</htmltext>
<tokenext>From the website [ bada.com ] navigation menu : bada for business | bada for developers .
Bada for Samsung , more like .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From the website [bada.com] navigation menu: bada for business | bada for developers.
Bada for Samsung, more like.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30389234</id>
	<title>So if they explode after using the MS search tool-</title>
	<author>anegg</author>
	<datestamp>1260465600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>We can say "Bada bing, bada bang, bada *boom*"</htmltext>
<tokenext>We can say " Bada bing , bada bang , bada * boom * "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We can say "Bada bing, bada bang, bada *boom*"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30387130</id>
	<title>Not an OS per se...</title>
	<author>ThoughtMonster</author>
	<datestamp>1260454440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...as it doesn't specify a single kernel. <a href="http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Samsung-Bada-SDK/" title="linuxfordevices.com" rel="nofollow">[source]</a> [linuxfordevices.com] It's more of a unified platform for development on Samsung phones.</p><p>It also probably uses EFL, as Samsung was recently shown to sponsor the development of Enlightenment and its supporting libraries <a href="http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news\_item&amp;px=NzcxNQ" title="phoronix.com" rel="nofollow">[source]</a> [phoronix.com] </p><p>With Nokia moving to a unified development environment across most of their devices, it's really not a surprising move for the #2 mobile phone manufacturer in the world.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...as it does n't specify a single kernel .
[ source ] [ linuxfordevices.com ] It 's more of a unified platform for development on Samsung phones.It also probably uses EFL , as Samsung was recently shown to sponsor the development of Enlightenment and its supporting libraries [ source ] [ phoronix.com ] With Nokia moving to a unified development environment across most of their devices , it 's really not a surprising move for the # 2 mobile phone manufacturer in the world .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...as it doesn't specify a single kernel.
[source] [linuxfordevices.com] It's more of a unified platform for development on Samsung phones.It also probably uses EFL, as Samsung was recently shown to sponsor the development of Enlightenment and its supporting libraries [source] [phoronix.com] With Nokia moving to a unified development environment across most of their devices, it's really not a surprising move for the #2 mobile phone manufacturer in the world.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30393180</id>
	<title>Re:Unlikely to come with Google search installed,</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1260435720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Totally offtopic but still great: That reminds me of the old Monty Pythons sound mod for Doom 1. (Oh hell yeah!)</p><p>When you shot the shotgun, it went "Badaboom badabing!". The pistol went "Ni!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... Ni! Ni!"<br>And when you fell from a great height, the Doom guy said "AAAAH, my heart just stopped...   Ah there it goes again."</p><p>I could not take the game seriously anymore, after installing it.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:D</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Totally offtopic but still great : That reminds me of the old Monty Pythons sound mod for Doom 1 .
( Oh hell yeah !
) When you shot the shotgun , it went " Badaboom badabing ! " .
The pistol went " Ni !
... Ni !
Ni ! " And when you fell from a great height , the Doom guy said " AAAAH , my heart just stopped... Ah there it goes again .
" I could not take the game seriously anymore , after installing it .
: D</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Totally offtopic but still great: That reminds me of the old Monty Pythons sound mod for Doom 1.
(Oh hell yeah!
)When you shot the shotgun, it went "Badaboom badabing!".
The pistol went "Ni!
... Ni!
Ni!"And when you fell from a great height, the Doom guy said "AAAAH, my heart just stopped...   Ah there it goes again.
"I could not take the game seriously anymore, after installing it.
:D</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30387032</id>
	<title>BadOS?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260453480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>BadOS? Was Windows Mobile rebranded?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>BadOS ?
Was Windows Mobile rebranded ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>BadOS?
Was Windows Mobile rebranded?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30388300</id>
	<title>Did you know people get degrees in marketing?</title>
	<author>Quiet\_Desperation</author>
	<datestamp>1260461820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The <b>BAD</b>a OS? Is this like when a Western company releases a product in the mysterious East or that there Southern Hemisphere place, and it turns out their made up product name translates to "rat feces" or "your mother is a whore" or something?</htmltext>
<tokenext>The BADa OS ?
Is this like when a Western company releases a product in the mysterious East or that there Southern Hemisphere place , and it turns out their made up product name translates to " rat feces " or " your mother is a whore " or something ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The BADa OS?
Is this like when a Western company releases a product in the mysterious East or that there Southern Hemisphere place, and it turns out their made up product name translates to "rat feces" or "your mother is a whore" or something?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30387232</id>
	<title>Re:Oh goody!</title>
	<author>A12m0v</author>
	<datestamp>1260455220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Rumor is it'll be built using Linux and Enlightenment. Hardly new or incompatible.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Rumor is it 'll be built using Linux and Enlightenment .
Hardly new or incompatible .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Rumor is it'll be built using Linux and Enlightenment.
Hardly new or incompatible.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30387110</id>
	<title>No Thanks</title>
	<author>mattwrock</author>
	<datestamp>1260454140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't care what the "Whiz Bang" features are if I can't easily create an application with my existing tools with a language I already know, I am not interested. I barely have enough time keeping up with developments now. This may have worked if they came out 18 months ago, or even if they came out before the Veriizon/Android deal. With Windows Mobile, Palm Pre, Blackberry, iPhone, and Android, I don't see where this fits. Maybe it will sell in Asia. What US phone company is going to put their marketing dollars behind this? Sprint?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't care what the " Whiz Bang " features are if I ca n't easily create an application with my existing tools with a language I already know , I am not interested .
I barely have enough time keeping up with developments now .
This may have worked if they came out 18 months ago , or even if they came out before the Veriizon/Android deal .
With Windows Mobile , Palm Pre , Blackberry , iPhone , and Android , I do n't see where this fits .
Maybe it will sell in Asia .
What US phone company is going to put their marketing dollars behind this ?
Sprint ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't care what the "Whiz Bang" features are if I can't easily create an application with my existing tools with a language I already know, I am not interested.
I barely have enough time keeping up with developments now.
This may have worked if they came out 18 months ago, or even if they came out before the Veriizon/Android deal.
With Windows Mobile, Palm Pre, Blackberry, iPhone, and Android, I don't see where this fits.
Maybe it will sell in Asia.
What US phone company is going to put their marketing dollars behind this?
Sprint?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30387046</id>
	<title>Oh goody!</title>
	<author>yelvington</author>
	<datestamp>1260453660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>To go with their new, incompatible OS, maybe they can introduce yet another new, incompatible power plug and a new, incompatible headphone jack!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>To go with their new , incompatible OS , maybe they can introduce yet another new , incompatible power plug and a new , incompatible headphone jack !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To go with their new, incompatible OS, maybe they can introduce yet another new, incompatible power plug and a new, incompatible headphone jack!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30392738</id>
	<title>I predict it will bomb</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260477240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Bada Boom!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Bada Boom !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bada Boom!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30387236</id>
	<title>It's Linux</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260455280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Which makes 3: Android, Maemo, bada. 4 if you count Moblin. It will be interesting to see how the market share of the iPhone stacks up against the total for the 4 Linux flavors this time next year.<p>I think some people are misunderstanding diversity. For a consumer device like a mobile phone, having multiple versions in the market is held to stimulate demand. It makes sense for manufacturers to optimise their kernels and support for the devices they want to use, then offer a consistent developer interface. It also makes sense for developers - large manufacturers like Samsung want to have a "community" of developers, not people who produce a product that works with the competition as well. It is then worth investing support effort in those developers, because they are not giving it away to the competition.</p><p>As I say, we'll see in a year how this pans out. Meanwhile, 4 multitasking relatively open platforms versus a pretty and slick but less capable one. 2010 looks interesting.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Which makes 3 : Android , Maemo , bada .
4 if you count Moblin .
It will be interesting to see how the market share of the iPhone stacks up against the total for the 4 Linux flavors this time next year.I think some people are misunderstanding diversity .
For a consumer device like a mobile phone , having multiple versions in the market is held to stimulate demand .
It makes sense for manufacturers to optimise their kernels and support for the devices they want to use , then offer a consistent developer interface .
It also makes sense for developers - large manufacturers like Samsung want to have a " community " of developers , not people who produce a product that works with the competition as well .
It is then worth investing support effort in those developers , because they are not giving it away to the competition.As I say , we 'll see in a year how this pans out .
Meanwhile , 4 multitasking relatively open platforms versus a pretty and slick but less capable one .
2010 looks interesting .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Which makes 3: Android, Maemo, bada.
4 if you count Moblin.
It will be interesting to see how the market share of the iPhone stacks up against the total for the 4 Linux flavors this time next year.I think some people are misunderstanding diversity.
For a consumer device like a mobile phone, having multiple versions in the market is held to stimulate demand.
It makes sense for manufacturers to optimise their kernels and support for the devices they want to use, then offer a consistent developer interface.
It also makes sense for developers - large manufacturers like Samsung want to have a "community" of developers, not people who produce a product that works with the competition as well.
It is then worth investing support effort in those developers, because they are not giving it away to the competition.As I say, we'll see in a year how this pans out.
Meanwhile, 4 multitasking relatively open platforms versus a pretty and slick but less capable one.
2010 looks interesting.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30387126</id>
	<title>Can't help but thinking...</title>
	<author>Bicx</author>
	<datestamp>1260454380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>that's a really badaos</htmltext>
<tokenext>that 's a really badaos</tokentext>
<sentencetext>that's a really badaos</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30391296</id>
	<title>It's not an OS</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260471840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...it's an API specification for loadable applications on top of some arbitrary operating system. You can <a href="http://developer.bada.com/apis/index.do" title="bada.com" rel="nofollow">find the documentation here</a> [bada.com] (although I don't know whether you need to log in to see the API docs).

</p><p>It's all in C++, and isn't bad, actually, with a rich class library and a UI that actually works. Right now it's all still in prototype, with an Eclipse-and-gcc-based IDE that builds Intel binaries and runs them on a simulator. To build for the device you need a copy of ARM's RealView compiler (at about 20,000 UKP a head), but I hear rumours that they're going to provide a gcc-based approach. It's all ARM binary based so if you don't have an ARM phone you're out of luck.

</p><p>As for the operating system --- so far it appears to be based on a Samsung proprietary OS called SHP, but as it's just an API spec, I can easily imagine bada systems on other operating systems.

</p><p>And yes, it's all DRMd up the wazoo. Apps have to be signed, by them, before they can be installed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...it 's an API specification for loadable applications on top of some arbitrary operating system .
You can find the documentation here [ bada.com ] ( although I do n't know whether you need to log in to see the API docs ) .
It 's all in C + + , and is n't bad , actually , with a rich class library and a UI that actually works .
Right now it 's all still in prototype , with an Eclipse-and-gcc-based IDE that builds Intel binaries and runs them on a simulator .
To build for the device you need a copy of ARM 's RealView compiler ( at about 20,000 UKP a head ) , but I hear rumours that they 're going to provide a gcc-based approach .
It 's all ARM binary based so if you do n't have an ARM phone you 're out of luck .
As for the operating system --- so far it appears to be based on a Samsung proprietary OS called SHP , but as it 's just an API spec , I can easily imagine bada systems on other operating systems .
And yes , it 's all DRMd up the wazoo .
Apps have to be signed , by them , before they can be installed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...it's an API specification for loadable applications on top of some arbitrary operating system.
You can find the documentation here [bada.com] (although I don't know whether you need to log in to see the API docs).
It's all in C++, and isn't bad, actually, with a rich class library and a UI that actually works.
Right now it's all still in prototype, with an Eclipse-and-gcc-based IDE that builds Intel binaries and runs them on a simulator.
To build for the device you need a copy of ARM's RealView compiler (at about 20,000 UKP a head), but I hear rumours that they're going to provide a gcc-based approach.
It's all ARM binary based so if you don't have an ARM phone you're out of luck.
As for the operating system --- so far it appears to be based on a Samsung proprietary OS called SHP, but as it's just an API spec, I can easily imagine bada systems on other operating systems.
And yes, it's all DRMd up the wazoo.
Apps have to be signed, by them, before they can be installed.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30387488</id>
	<title>Bad Bet</title>
	<author>whisper\_jeff</author>
	<datestamp>1260456900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Samsung is betting there's room for more in the smartphone market...</p></div><p>
I may not be a high priced marketing exec or whatnot but I would take that bet. In fact, I'd happily wager that the smartphone market reached its limit a while ago... But, hey, good luck there Samsung.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Samsung is betting there 's room for more in the smartphone market.. . I may not be a high priced marketing exec or whatnot but I would take that bet .
In fact , I 'd happily wager that the smartphone market reached its limit a while ago... But , hey , good luck there Samsung .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Samsung is betting there's room for more in the smartphone market...
I may not be a high priced marketing exec or whatnot but I would take that bet.
In fact, I'd happily wager that the smartphone market reached its limit a while ago... But, hey, good luck there Samsung.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30388720</id>
	<title>Has to be said</title>
	<author>DinDaddy</author>
	<datestamp>1260463920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Bada bing, bada boom!</p><p>So use google, or else.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Bada bing , bada boom ! So use google , or else .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bada bing, bada boom!So use google, or else.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30396894</id>
	<title>Re:BadOS?</title>
	<author>Cyclops</author>
	<datestamp>1260450960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>BadOS? Was Windows Mobile rebranded?</p></div><p>Bada is a GNU/Linux, running E17. Anyone used to program with EFL already heard the news a while ago, and will be able to recognize familiar Elementary elements in some of the screenshots.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>BadOS ?
Was Windows Mobile rebranded ? Bada is a GNU/Linux , running E17 .
Anyone used to program with EFL already heard the news a while ago , and will be able to recognize familiar Elementary elements in some of the screenshots .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>BadOS?
Was Windows Mobile rebranded?Bada is a GNU/Linux, running E17.
Anyone used to program with EFL already heard the news a while ago, and will be able to recognize familiar Elementary elements in some of the screenshots.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30387032</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30387540</id>
	<title>Smartphone Wars?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260457260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In A.D. 2009<br>Smartphone war was beginning.</p><p>Steve Jobs: What happen?<br>Steve's assistant: Somebody set up us the Samsung Bada.</p><p>Apple technician: We get UMTS signal.<br>Steve Jobs: What?</p><p>(...)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In A.D. 2009Smartphone war was beginning.Steve Jobs : What happen ? Steve 's assistant : Somebody set up us the Samsung Bada.Apple technician : We get UMTS signal.Steve Jobs : What ? ( .. .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In A.D. 2009Smartphone war was beginning.Steve Jobs: What happen?Steve's assistant: Somebody set up us the Samsung Bada.Apple technician: We get UMTS signal.Steve Jobs: What?(...
)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30387076</id>
	<title>Bada bing, bada boom!!!</title>
	<author>oktokie</author>
	<datestamp>1260453840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's easy and simple to accomplish!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's easy and simple to accomplish !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's easy and simple to accomplish!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30397918</id>
	<title>Apologies but, who the hell are you?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260459420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I am not a financial analyst or a cell phone market analyst so, Samsung has to do more to impress me and get credible in my eyes.</p><p>All I see is a company who makes hell of money from cheap electronics, phones and tries to get itself respected with funnily named operating systems which shows nothing unique to begin with.</p><p>Nokia says their Symbian kernel is so good that it can run on lowest kind of specs and does magical things like doing the comms and smart phone stuff on single CPU. So, they have a point to keep up with Symbian foundation like moving the entire S40 line (hundred million/year!) to S60.  They also have Linux in hand (Maemo) which the absolutely high end phones/devices will ship with, a standard platform with Maemo/Qt. At least re-coding the UI  won't be necessary. I wouldn't blame them if they shipped 2-3 Windows Mobile devices since companies who runs Windows server wants to have Windows Mobile handsets. No matter how great your 3rd party Exchange support is, they still go and buy a HTC/Asus running Windows Mobile. That (with imaginary windows) makes total 3 operating systems (kernels) each with a good explanation. If they can really manage to make Qt something like "just code the app, let us care what kernel it runs on", the OS will be irrelevant anyway.</p><p>What kind of unique offering does Samsung's new (!) OS provide? What kind of example can Samsung provide in terms of developer support? How can Samsung explain making one of the best hardware platform Symbian S60 V5 runs on (Omnia HD) and yet not managing to convince a single developer to code for it?</p><p>Samsung owners have flamed mobile sites and especially Symbian sites for not even mentioning their products. How can you mention/support a brand which changes OS plans every 3 months? At least Nokia and recently Motorola has some sort of roadmap you can rely on.</p><p>Good luck finding a single developer who will spare time to learn (!) their OS. Perhaps they will bribe a couple of companies to release products but that is all.</p><p>Samsung should stick with their impossible to use cheap phones and leave the "smart" business to companies with serious management and developer support. I hate to see people wasting money and time to their empty promises. As they are the second most popular cell phone maker, software industry is a bit afraid of them so they can't speak openly. It doesn't need to be a smart phone guru to see their treatment to developers though.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am not a financial analyst or a cell phone market analyst so , Samsung has to do more to impress me and get credible in my eyes.All I see is a company who makes hell of money from cheap electronics , phones and tries to get itself respected with funnily named operating systems which shows nothing unique to begin with.Nokia says their Symbian kernel is so good that it can run on lowest kind of specs and does magical things like doing the comms and smart phone stuff on single CPU .
So , they have a point to keep up with Symbian foundation like moving the entire S40 line ( hundred million/year !
) to S60 .
They also have Linux in hand ( Maemo ) which the absolutely high end phones/devices will ship with , a standard platform with Maemo/Qt .
At least re-coding the UI wo n't be necessary .
I would n't blame them if they shipped 2-3 Windows Mobile devices since companies who runs Windows server wants to have Windows Mobile handsets .
No matter how great your 3rd party Exchange support is , they still go and buy a HTC/Asus running Windows Mobile .
That ( with imaginary windows ) makes total 3 operating systems ( kernels ) each with a good explanation .
If they can really manage to make Qt something like " just code the app , let us care what kernel it runs on " , the OS will be irrelevant anyway.What kind of unique offering does Samsung 's new ( !
) OS provide ?
What kind of example can Samsung provide in terms of developer support ?
How can Samsung explain making one of the best hardware platform Symbian S60 V5 runs on ( Omnia HD ) and yet not managing to convince a single developer to code for it ? Samsung owners have flamed mobile sites and especially Symbian sites for not even mentioning their products .
How can you mention/support a brand which changes OS plans every 3 months ?
At least Nokia and recently Motorola has some sort of roadmap you can rely on.Good luck finding a single developer who will spare time to learn ( !
) their OS .
Perhaps they will bribe a couple of companies to release products but that is all.Samsung should stick with their impossible to use cheap phones and leave the " smart " business to companies with serious management and developer support .
I hate to see people wasting money and time to their empty promises .
As they are the second most popular cell phone maker , software industry is a bit afraid of them so they ca n't speak openly .
It does n't need to be a smart phone guru to see their treatment to developers though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am not a financial analyst or a cell phone market analyst so, Samsung has to do more to impress me and get credible in my eyes.All I see is a company who makes hell of money from cheap electronics, phones and tries to get itself respected with funnily named operating systems which shows nothing unique to begin with.Nokia says their Symbian kernel is so good that it can run on lowest kind of specs and does magical things like doing the comms and smart phone stuff on single CPU.
So, they have a point to keep up with Symbian foundation like moving the entire S40 line (hundred million/year!
) to S60.
They also have Linux in hand (Maemo) which the absolutely high end phones/devices will ship with, a standard platform with Maemo/Qt.
At least re-coding the UI  won't be necessary.
I wouldn't blame them if they shipped 2-3 Windows Mobile devices since companies who runs Windows server wants to have Windows Mobile handsets.
No matter how great your 3rd party Exchange support is, they still go and buy a HTC/Asus running Windows Mobile.
That (with imaginary windows) makes total 3 operating systems (kernels) each with a good explanation.
If they can really manage to make Qt something like "just code the app, let us care what kernel it runs on", the OS will be irrelevant anyway.What kind of unique offering does Samsung's new (!
) OS provide?
What kind of example can Samsung provide in terms of developer support?
How can Samsung explain making one of the best hardware platform Symbian S60 V5 runs on (Omnia HD) and yet not managing to convince a single developer to code for it?Samsung owners have flamed mobile sites and especially Symbian sites for not even mentioning their products.
How can you mention/support a brand which changes OS plans every 3 months?
At least Nokia and recently Motorola has some sort of roadmap you can rely on.Good luck finding a single developer who will spare time to learn (!
) their OS.
Perhaps they will bribe a couple of companies to release products but that is all.Samsung should stick with their impossible to use cheap phones and leave the "smart" business to companies with serious management and developer support.
I hate to see people wasting money and time to their empty promises.
As they are the second most popular cell phone maker, software industry is a bit afraid of them so they can't speak openly.
It doesn't need to be a smart phone guru to see their treatment to developers though.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30387124</id>
	<title>"limitless variety of potential applications"?</title>
	<author>No Grand Plan</author>
	<datestamp>1260454380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wouldn't it be better to have a limitless variety of <i>actual</i> applications?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Would n't it be better to have a limitless variety of actual applications ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wouldn't it be better to have a limitless variety of actual applications?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30387360</id>
	<title>Re:Unlikely to come with Google search installed,</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260456180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I came here to make a bada bing joke, you insensitive clod!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I came here to make a bada bing joke , you insensitive clod !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I came here to make a bada bing joke, you insensitive clod!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30387072</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30388774</id>
	<title>Re:Marketing gem</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260464160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seems reminiscent of why the Nova sold poorly in all Spanish speaking countries.</p><p>(For those unfamiliar, Nova was a car, 'no va' is Spanish for 'does not go'.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seems reminiscent of why the Nova sold poorly in all Spanish speaking countries .
( For those unfamiliar , Nova was a car , 'no va ' is Spanish for 'does not go' .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seems reminiscent of why the Nova sold poorly in all Spanish speaking countries.
(For those unfamiliar, Nova was a car, 'no va' is Spanish for 'does not go'.
)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30387584</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30387150</id>
	<title>Sensors</title>
	<author>SeeSchloss</author>
	<datestamp>1260454620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>The bada OS has a variety of sensors, including accelerometers, tilt, weather, proximity and activity.</p></div></blockquote><p>
Now, please explain how an <i>OS</i> can possess <i>sensors</i>?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The bada OS has a variety of sensors , including accelerometers , tilt , weather , proximity and activity .
Now , please explain how an OS can possess sensors ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The bada OS has a variety of sensors, including accelerometers, tilt, weather, proximity and activity.
Now, please explain how an OS can possess sensors?
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30393458</id>
	<title>Sensors for a shaky OS?</title>
	<author>Errol backfiring</author>
	<datestamp>1260436800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If the OS is shaky enough, accelerometers actually make some sense. And <b>*tilt*</b> looks so much more user-friendly than a blue screen of death.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If the OS is shaky enough , accelerometers actually make some sense .
And * tilt * looks so much more user-friendly than a blue screen of death .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the OS is shaky enough, accelerometers actually make some sense.
And *tilt* looks so much more user-friendly than a blue screen of death.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30387150</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30387242</id>
	<title>But does it...</title>
	<author>Aladrin</author>
	<datestamp>1260455280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But does it run Linux!?</p><p><a href="http://www.bada.com/a-glimpse-at-samsung-bada/" title="bada.com">http://www.bada.com/a-glimpse-at-samsung-bada/</a> [bada.com]</p><p>"The kernel layer, which can be based on a real-time OS or Linux kernel, depending on hardware configuration"</p><p>That's a definite 'maybe'.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But does it run Linux !
? http : //www.bada.com/a-glimpse-at-samsung-bada/ [ bada.com ] " The kernel layer , which can be based on a real-time OS or Linux kernel , depending on hardware configuration " That 's a definite 'maybe' .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But does it run Linux!
?http://www.bada.com/a-glimpse-at-samsung-bada/ [bada.com]"The kernel layer, which can be based on a real-time OS or Linux kernel, depending on hardware configuration"That's a definite 'maybe'.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30395238</id>
	<title>Re:BadOS?</title>
	<author>Sets\_Chaos</author>
	<datestamp>1260443640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm glad to see it's not just Chevrolet committing these kinds of mistakes. Calling a car the "No go" in Spanish is almost better than calling a phones OS "Bada".

I'll share a little secret: if you're going to market something in a place that speaks another language, triple check the translation. No go, Donkey Kong, BadOS... the list is probably miles long.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm glad to see it 's not just Chevrolet committing these kinds of mistakes .
Calling a car the " No go " in Spanish is almost better than calling a phones OS " Bada " .
I 'll share a little secret : if you 're going to market something in a place that speaks another language , triple check the translation .
No go , Donkey Kong , BadOS... the list is probably miles long .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm glad to see it's not just Chevrolet committing these kinds of mistakes.
Calling a car the "No go" in Spanish is almost better than calling a phones OS "Bada".
I'll share a little secret: if you're going to market something in a place that speaks another language, triple check the translation.
No go, Donkey Kong, BadOS... the list is probably miles long.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30387032</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30396984</id>
	<title>Re:Marketing gem</title>
	<author>CodeBuster</author>
	<datestamp>1260451620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Bada-Bing, Bada-Bang</htmltext>
<tokenext>Bada-Bing , Bada-Bang</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bada-Bing, Bada-Bang</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30387584</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30387904</id>
	<title>Interesting...</title>
	<author>flyneye</author>
	<datestamp>1260459600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The potential of this didn't escape me though. Motion sensor, accelerometer,face detection, doubtless GPS so while we can use this as a personal theremin<nobr> <wbr></nobr>,Big Brother or malware can now not only tell where we are, but what we're doing and recognize the face of the one we're doing it to.</p><p>O.k.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>,o.k. , it's pretty out there but I haven't had coffee and yours hasn't taken hold yet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The potential of this did n't escape me though .
Motion sensor , accelerometer,face detection , doubtless GPS so while we can use this as a personal theremin ,Big Brother or malware can now not only tell where we are , but what we 're doing and recognize the face of the one we 're doing it to.O.k .
,o.k. , it 's pretty out there but I have n't had coffee and yours has n't taken hold yet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The potential of this didn't escape me though.
Motion sensor, accelerometer,face detection, doubtless GPS so while we can use this as a personal theremin ,Big Brother or malware can now not only tell where we are, but what we're doing and recognize the face of the one we're doing it to.O.k.
,o.k. , it's pretty out there but I haven't had coffee and yours hasn't taken hold yet.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30390010</id>
	<title>What year is this and they are doing what??!?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260467820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>With real software companies (Apple,Microsoft) pouring ever greater and greater amounts of resources into the mobile market the time for hardware vendors to be writing their own OS has come and gone from the perspective of the high-end smartphone market.</p><p>Its likely to be great for Samsung when selling phones to people who just want to talk and sms but for everyone else its all about applications.</p><p>In the short term they may be able to get away with it.. Heck taking the andriod route of cobbling linux, webkit, windowing, java together works in the short term.  As competition ramps up the future demands more than pedestrian effort (designing pretty UIs) that most vendors would be capable of given the economies of scale and room any single hardware vendor has to operate.  At some point its cheaper to pay licensing fees to a third party or use something free (Andriod).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>With real software companies ( Apple,Microsoft ) pouring ever greater and greater amounts of resources into the mobile market the time for hardware vendors to be writing their own OS has come and gone from the perspective of the high-end smartphone market.Its likely to be great for Samsung when selling phones to people who just want to talk and sms but for everyone else its all about applications.In the short term they may be able to get away with it.. Heck taking the andriod route of cobbling linux , webkit , windowing , java together works in the short term .
As competition ramps up the future demands more than pedestrian effort ( designing pretty UIs ) that most vendors would be capable of given the economies of scale and room any single hardware vendor has to operate .
At some point its cheaper to pay licensing fees to a third party or use something free ( Andriod ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With real software companies (Apple,Microsoft) pouring ever greater and greater amounts of resources into the mobile market the time for hardware vendors to be writing their own OS has come and gone from the perspective of the high-end smartphone market.Its likely to be great for Samsung when selling phones to people who just want to talk and sms but for everyone else its all about applications.In the short term they may be able to get away with it.. Heck taking the andriod route of cobbling linux, webkit, windowing, java together works in the short term.
As competition ramps up the future demands more than pedestrian effort (designing pretty UIs) that most vendors would be capable of given the economies of scale and room any single hardware vendor has to operate.
At some point its cheaper to pay licensing fees to a third party or use something free (Andriod).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30387294</id>
	<title>One more Linux....</title>
	<author>DrYak</author>
	<datestamp>1260455760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yup, indeed. One more Linux distribution for Smartphones.</p><p>Look like the <a href="http://futurist.se/gldt/gldt93.png" title="futurist.se">explosion of Linux Distros</a> [futurist.se] that we saw slready is happening all over again on the smartphones.<br>Well, if history has taught us anything, we already know how it will end :<br>the majority of them will either collapse or get restricted into some special niche.<br>only a few of the old timer will stay (probably Android among them ?)</p><p>On the upside, that's one more Linux-kernel-based system being sold out there. Just showing that it's a perfectly viable solution.</p><p>And perhaps, after a while, as you suggest, constructors will start to realise as you said that each one rolling it's own telephony-stack and -userspace is a waster of ressource, and perhaps will see some coordinated effort going on for core telephony components.<br>(Just as currently lots of core component of modern distributions are developed in a centralised fashion. DBus comes as an example).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yup , indeed .
One more Linux distribution for Smartphones.Look like the explosion of Linux Distros [ futurist.se ] that we saw slready is happening all over again on the smartphones.Well , if history has taught us anything , we already know how it will end : the majority of them will either collapse or get restricted into some special niche.only a few of the old timer will stay ( probably Android among them ?
) On the upside , that 's one more Linux-kernel-based system being sold out there .
Just showing that it 's a perfectly viable solution.And perhaps , after a while , as you suggest , constructors will start to realise as you said that each one rolling it 's own telephony-stack and -userspace is a waster of ressource , and perhaps will see some coordinated effort going on for core telephony components .
( Just as currently lots of core component of modern distributions are developed in a centralised fashion .
DBus comes as an example ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yup, indeed.
One more Linux distribution for Smartphones.Look like the explosion of Linux Distros [futurist.se] that we saw slready is happening all over again on the smartphones.Well, if history has taught us anything, we already know how it will end :the majority of them will either collapse or get restricted into some special niche.only a few of the old timer will stay (probably Android among them ?
)On the upside, that's one more Linux-kernel-based system being sold out there.
Just showing that it's a perfectly viable solution.And perhaps, after a while, as you suggest, constructors will start to realise as you said that each one rolling it's own telephony-stack and -userspace is a waster of ressource, and perhaps will see some coordinated effort going on for core telephony components.
(Just as currently lots of core component of modern distributions are developed in a centralised fashion.
DBus comes as an example).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30387058</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30391680</id>
	<title>Re:BadOS?</title>
	<author>dmmiller2k</author>
	<datestamp>1260473220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>No "bada", as in "Bada Bing":

It's in honor of the HBO Show: SopranOS</htmltext>
<tokenext>No " bada " , as in " Bada Bing " : It 's in honor of the HBO Show : SopranOS</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No "bada", as in "Bada Bing":

It's in honor of the HBO Show: SopranOS</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30387032</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30387106</id>
	<title>Bada OS?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260454140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Thats one Badassos</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Thats one Badassos</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thats one Badassos</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30394746</id>
	<title>Re:Samsung sucks</title>
	<author>unix1</author>
	<datestamp>1260441780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I am in your boat too - I like the Galaxy hardware. It's frustrating that their hardware can be top notch, but their software support is horrible and mostly nonexistent. It's 2 completely different parts of the company (2 different companies even), I understand.</p><p>Also, I tried to download the bada SDK and IDE, website said I need to register. I took the bait and registered as a developer at developer.bada.com - what a waste. After giving out my personal info and assigning over all of my privacy and other rights, I still can't download the SDK or the IDE - now they tell me I have to become a PARTNER!!! In order to do that, I have to send them a request form, and they'll selectively approve applications.</p><p>Samsung have their heads stuck up their collective behinds right now, and are being cocky probably proud of their global market share. But that market share is fragile if you don't deliver above and beyond the competition - just ask Motorola.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am in your boat too - I like the Galaxy hardware .
It 's frustrating that their hardware can be top notch , but their software support is horrible and mostly nonexistent .
It 's 2 completely different parts of the company ( 2 different companies even ) , I understand.Also , I tried to download the bada SDK and IDE , website said I need to register .
I took the bait and registered as a developer at developer.bada.com - what a waste .
After giving out my personal info and assigning over all of my privacy and other rights , I still ca n't download the SDK or the IDE - now they tell me I have to become a PARTNER ! ! !
In order to do that , I have to send them a request form , and they 'll selectively approve applications.Samsung have their heads stuck up their collective behinds right now , and are being cocky probably proud of their global market share .
But that market share is fragile if you do n't deliver above and beyond the competition - just ask Motorola .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am in your boat too - I like the Galaxy hardware.
It's frustrating that their hardware can be top notch, but their software support is horrible and mostly nonexistent.
It's 2 completely different parts of the company (2 different companies even), I understand.Also, I tried to download the bada SDK and IDE, website said I need to register.
I took the bait and registered as a developer at developer.bada.com - what a waste.
After giving out my personal info and assigning over all of my privacy and other rights, I still can't download the SDK or the IDE - now they tell me I have to become a PARTNER!!!
In order to do that, I have to send them a request form, and they'll selectively approve applications.Samsung have their heads stuck up their collective behinds right now, and are being cocky probably proud of their global market share.
But that market share is fragile if you don't deliver above and beyond the competition - just ask Motorola.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30392104</id>
	<title>Re:It's Linux</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260474780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You are clearly unfamiliar with the Unix(tm) OS wars of the 80s and 90s. Spoiler: it didn't improve market share.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You are clearly unfamiliar with the Unix ( tm ) OS wars of the 80s and 90s .
Spoiler : it did n't improve market share .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You are clearly unfamiliar with the Unix(tm) OS wars of the 80s and 90s.
Spoiler: it didn't improve market share.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30387236</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30387428</id>
	<title>biz7natch</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260456480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><A HREF="http://goat.cx/" title="goat.cx" rel="nofollow">sales and so on, haapen. 'At least arithmetic,</a> [goat.cx]</htmltext>
<tokenext>sales and so on , haapen .
'At least arithmetic , [ goat.cx ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>sales and so on, haapen.
'At least arithmetic, [goat.cx]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30388358</id>
	<title>I've always wanted a...</title>
	<author>michaelwigle</author>
	<datestamp>1260462180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>bada*s phone!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:P</htmltext>
<tokenext>bada * s phone !
: P</tokentext>
<sentencetext>bada*s phone!
:P</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30387072</id>
	<title>Unlikely to come with Google search installed,</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260453840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>very likely to come with Bada Bing.</htmltext>
<tokenext>very likely to come with Bada Bing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>very likely to come with Bada Bing.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30392490</id>
	<title>Re:Unlikely to come with Google search installed,</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260476100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So when the OS locks up you don't get a BSOD you get a Bada Boom Screen?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So when the OS locks up you do n't get a BSOD you get a Bada Boom Screen ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So when the OS locks up you don't get a BSOD you get a Bada Boom Screen?</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30387208</id>
	<title>slashdotOS</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260455100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Based on  goatseOS, lets you get your dots on all your slashes. Coming to the trollphone and dogballs netbook in 2016.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Based on goatseOS , lets you get your dots on all your slashes .
Coming to the trollphone and dogballs netbook in 2016 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Based on  goatseOS, lets you get your dots on all your slashes.
Coming to the trollphone and dogballs netbook in 2016.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30394060</id>
	<title>Re:Samsung sucks</title>
	<author>sznupi</author>
	<datestamp>1260439200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or this Android phone of yours is considered by Samsung to be a bad experience, so they have no hard feelings in abandoning it and concentrating on their own platform<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;p</p><p>They are big enough for it to quickly become popular; I wouldn't be surprised if a year from now it will have more marketshare than Android...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or this Android phone of yours is considered by Samsung to be a bad experience , so they have no hard feelings in abandoning it and concentrating on their own platform ; pThey are big enough for it to quickly become popular ; I would n't be surprised if a year from now it will have more marketshare than Android.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or this Android phone of yours is considered by Samsung to be a bad experience, so they have no hard feelings in abandoning it and concentrating on their own platform ;pThey are big enough for it to quickly become popular; I wouldn't be surprised if a year from now it will have more marketshare than Android...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30388626</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30388882</id>
	<title>Re:It's Linux</title>
	<author>LWATCDR</author>
	<datestamp>1260464520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well of the Linux Smartphone systems they all have some failings when you compair them to the iPhone.<br>Palm. I would say that the UI on the Palm is every bit as good as the the iPhone if not better. The Card interface really is easy to use and intuitive.<br>The SDK sucks. It is extremely limited. I found several things that I just couldn't do with the offical SDK within just minutes.<br>1. Can not detect if it is plugged in and charging.<br>2. Can not control the camera flash.<br>It also still lacks a few features. No Video recording and no voice dialing!</p><p>Android can multi task and the SDK really is good enough to write some great apps. The UI isn't as good as the iPhone or the Pre and it can be a little slow on some devices to launch the camera. Also battery life is a bit iffy.</p><p>Maemo? Well maybe? I have not gotten to see it up close but Nokia seems to be really drifiting in focus. It could be great but right now it is really drifting. It is Linux with QT so the SDK should be out of this world but I am not sure how well it interfaces ithe hardware bits. Maemo's biggest weakness right now seems to be a lack of focus.<br>Mobin? What phone can I get it for?</p><p>Right now the iPhone is in the lead with it's UI and app store. I don't like the lack of multitasking but otherwise it is a solid product. The only reason I didn't get one is the Carrier is AT&amp;T and they are too expensive and frankly make me crazy.</p><p>Right not I would say things in the phone world are still up for grabs. Android is doing well but will it improve it's UI to be as good or better than the iPhone. Will it improve it's media player and support more types of media?<br>RIM Your browser sucks and you are loosing mindshare fast. Your the cheap smartphone that does Exchange Email well but others are starting to do that almost as well. Your in trouble.<br>WinMo? If Seven is earth shattering you are doomed. Looking at the ZuneHD makes me think you might pull it off but it may be too late.<br>Apple? Well you are in a great position making money hand over fist. It is yours to blow.<br>Nokia? Wow your in deep trouble. Symbian was cool but you have fragmented it all to heck. You make great hardware but you are just about invisible in the US market. You can do well not selling in the US but where are you going? Do you even know?<br>Palm. The Pre is a very good deviice and the Pixie is as well but... WebOS isn't finished. Heck you are not even using the 3D graphics chip in the Pre yet! You don't shoot Video! You Don't have Voice dialing! Also the whole use Javascript and HTML SDK idea... It sucks...<br>Having that as an option is great. It being the only option is brain dead! Get a real SDK out NOW. It could be java or c++ or objective c if you wish but GET IT DONE NOW.</p><p>BTW I have an Android phone and an iPod Touch and my wife has a Pre. I would have loved to get the Pre but the SDK turned me right off.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well of the Linux Smartphone systems they all have some failings when you compair them to the iPhone.Palm .
I would say that the UI on the Palm is every bit as good as the the iPhone if not better .
The Card interface really is easy to use and intuitive.The SDK sucks .
It is extremely limited .
I found several things that I just could n't do with the offical SDK within just minutes.1 .
Can not detect if it is plugged in and charging.2 .
Can not control the camera flash.It also still lacks a few features .
No Video recording and no voice dialing ! Android can multi task and the SDK really is good enough to write some great apps .
The UI is n't as good as the iPhone or the Pre and it can be a little slow on some devices to launch the camera .
Also battery life is a bit iffy.Maemo ?
Well maybe ?
I have not gotten to see it up close but Nokia seems to be really drifiting in focus .
It could be great but right now it is really drifting .
It is Linux with QT so the SDK should be out of this world but I am not sure how well it interfaces ithe hardware bits .
Maemo 's biggest weakness right now seems to be a lack of focus.Mobin ?
What phone can I get it for ? Right now the iPhone is in the lead with it 's UI and app store .
I do n't like the lack of multitasking but otherwise it is a solid product .
The only reason I did n't get one is the Carrier is AT&amp;T and they are too expensive and frankly make me crazy.Right not I would say things in the phone world are still up for grabs .
Android is doing well but will it improve it 's UI to be as good or better than the iPhone .
Will it improve it 's media player and support more types of media ? RIM Your browser sucks and you are loosing mindshare fast .
Your the cheap smartphone that does Exchange Email well but others are starting to do that almost as well .
Your in trouble.WinMo ?
If Seven is earth shattering you are doomed .
Looking at the ZuneHD makes me think you might pull it off but it may be too late.Apple ?
Well you are in a great position making money hand over fist .
It is yours to blow.Nokia ?
Wow your in deep trouble .
Symbian was cool but you have fragmented it all to heck .
You make great hardware but you are just about invisible in the US market .
You can do well not selling in the US but where are you going ?
Do you even know ? Palm .
The Pre is a very good deviice and the Pixie is as well but... WebOS is n't finished .
Heck you are not even using the 3D graphics chip in the Pre yet !
You do n't shoot Video !
You Do n't have Voice dialing !
Also the whole use Javascript and HTML SDK idea... It sucks...Having that as an option is great .
It being the only option is brain dead !
Get a real SDK out NOW .
It could be java or c + + or objective c if you wish but GET IT DONE NOW.BTW I have an Android phone and an iPod Touch and my wife has a Pre .
I would have loved to get the Pre but the SDK turned me right off .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well of the Linux Smartphone systems they all have some failings when you compair them to the iPhone.Palm.
I would say that the UI on the Palm is every bit as good as the the iPhone if not better.
The Card interface really is easy to use and intuitive.The SDK sucks.
It is extremely limited.
I found several things that I just couldn't do with the offical SDK within just minutes.1.
Can not detect if it is plugged in and charging.2.
Can not control the camera flash.It also still lacks a few features.
No Video recording and no voice dialing!Android can multi task and the SDK really is good enough to write some great apps.
The UI isn't as good as the iPhone or the Pre and it can be a little slow on some devices to launch the camera.
Also battery life is a bit iffy.Maemo?
Well maybe?
I have not gotten to see it up close but Nokia seems to be really drifiting in focus.
It could be great but right now it is really drifting.
It is Linux with QT so the SDK should be out of this world but I am not sure how well it interfaces ithe hardware bits.
Maemo's biggest weakness right now seems to be a lack of focus.Mobin?
What phone can I get it for?Right now the iPhone is in the lead with it's UI and app store.
I don't like the lack of multitasking but otherwise it is a solid product.
The only reason I didn't get one is the Carrier is AT&amp;T and they are too expensive and frankly make me crazy.Right not I would say things in the phone world are still up for grabs.
Android is doing well but will it improve it's UI to be as good or better than the iPhone.
Will it improve it's media player and support more types of media?RIM Your browser sucks and you are loosing mindshare fast.
Your the cheap smartphone that does Exchange Email well but others are starting to do that almost as well.
Your in trouble.WinMo?
If Seven is earth shattering you are doomed.
Looking at the ZuneHD makes me think you might pull it off but it may be too late.Apple?
Well you are in a great position making money hand over fist.
It is yours to blow.Nokia?
Wow your in deep trouble.
Symbian was cool but you have fragmented it all to heck.
You make great hardware but you are just about invisible in the US market.
You can do well not selling in the US but where are you going?
Do you even know?Palm.
The Pre is a very good deviice and the Pixie is as well but... WebOS isn't finished.
Heck you are not even using the 3D graphics chip in the Pre yet!
You don't shoot Video!
You Don't have Voice dialing!
Also the whole use Javascript and HTML SDK idea... It sucks...Having that as an option is great.
It being the only option is brain dead!
Get a real SDK out NOW.
It could be java or c++ or objective c if you wish but GET IT DONE NOW.BTW I have an Android phone and an iPod Touch and my wife has a Pre.
I would have loved to get the Pre but the SDK turned me right off.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30390584</id>
	<title>The beginning</title>
	<author>codefungus</author>
	<datestamp>1260469620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This trend of supplying every person with a programmable device packed full of sensors could very well be the beginnings of mainstream robotics. I mean sure, an iphone or samsung that sports bada may not look like Asimo, but it's certainly gaining the environmental sensing capabilities. Imagine one day driving up to a restaurant, docking your phone, and having it valet your car. Dock into your lawn mower and have it cut your grass... Plug it into a multi-purpose robotic platform and have it make you tea. With the sensing and computational power that's increasing in sophistication, we are watching robot brains grow in our pants pockets.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This trend of supplying every person with a programmable device packed full of sensors could very well be the beginnings of mainstream robotics .
I mean sure , an iphone or samsung that sports bada may not look like Asimo , but it 's certainly gaining the environmental sensing capabilities .
Imagine one day driving up to a restaurant , docking your phone , and having it valet your car .
Dock into your lawn mower and have it cut your grass... Plug it into a multi-purpose robotic platform and have it make you tea .
With the sensing and computational power that 's increasing in sophistication , we are watching robot brains grow in our pants pockets .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This trend of supplying every person with a programmable device packed full of sensors could very well be the beginnings of mainstream robotics.
I mean sure, an iphone or samsung that sports bada may not look like Asimo, but it's certainly gaining the environmental sensing capabilities.
Imagine one day driving up to a restaurant, docking your phone, and having it valet your car.
Dock into your lawn mower and have it cut your grass... Plug it into a multi-purpose robotic platform and have it make you tea.
With the sensing and computational power that's increasing in sophistication, we are watching robot brains grow in our pants pockets.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30387104</id>
	<title>Re:Oh goody!</title>
	<author>Spazztastic</author>
	<datestamp>1260454140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>To go with their new, incompatible OS, maybe they can introduce yet another new, incompatible power plug and a new, incompatible headphone jack!</p></div><p>Oh, yeah. I had a Blackjack and I had all the things I would need. Car adapter, headphone adapter, extended battery. I get the Blackjack II, it has all new adapters. So I have to buy a new headphone adapter, car adapter, and they don't include an extended battery with it in the box! In fact, they don't even have one!</p><p>Fuck Samsung's phones. They make great TVs, though.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>To go with their new , incompatible OS , maybe they can introduce yet another new , incompatible power plug and a new , incompatible headphone jack ! Oh , yeah .
I had a Blackjack and I had all the things I would need .
Car adapter , headphone adapter , extended battery .
I get the Blackjack II , it has all new adapters .
So I have to buy a new headphone adapter , car adapter , and they do n't include an extended battery with it in the box !
In fact , they do n't even have one ! Fuck Samsung 's phones .
They make great TVs , though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To go with their new, incompatible OS, maybe they can introduce yet another new, incompatible power plug and a new, incompatible headphone jack!Oh, yeah.
I had a Blackjack and I had all the things I would need.
Car adapter, headphone adapter, extended battery.
I get the Blackjack II, it has all new adapters.
So I have to buy a new headphone adapter, car adapter, and they don't include an extended battery with it in the box!
In fact, they don't even have one!Fuck Samsung's phones.
They make great TVs, though.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30392962</id>
	<title>Re:BadOS?</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1260478140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Protip: Only 4.4-5.9\% of the world population actually cares about what it sounds like in English. Because that is the amount of native speakers.</p><p>If you would know what amount of English products sound dirty and silly in the four other languages I know. ^^</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Protip : Only 4.4-5.9 \ % of the world population actually cares about what it sounds like in English .
Because that is the amount of native speakers.If you would know what amount of English products sound dirty and silly in the four other languages I know .
^ ^</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Protip: Only 4.4-5.9\% of the world population actually cares about what it sounds like in English.
Because that is the amount of native speakers.If you would know what amount of English products sound dirty and silly in the four other languages I know.
^^</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30388626</id>
	<title>Samsung sucks</title>
	<author>Zebedeu</author>
	<datestamp>1260463500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wish I'd known about this a few months ago.</p><p>I bought an Android-based Samsung Galaxy which is great hardware-wise (standard connectors, 8GB flash built-in and still the best-looking Android phone out there, in my opinion), but looks to be basically abandoned software-wise.</p><p>Just this week Samsung pushed another small update for the same Android 1.5 which came with the system at a time when Android 2.1 devices are already available from other vendors. There have been rumours that Samsung has no intentions of upgrading the system software to even 1.6, and they're not communicating anything to the community.</p><p>This sucks since more and more apps are coming out requiring at least 1.6, such as the google maps navigation and google goggles.<br>Hell, at least they could allow changes to the baseband so that the community could build their own system. It kind of defeats the whole purpose of having an open-source OS when you can't use the radio <a href="http://twitter.com/drakaz/status/6469331448" title="twitter.com">because it's locked down</a> [twitter.com].</p><p>In fact, unlike other Android phones, you need Samsung's crappy, bloated, windows-only software just to upgrade the system's firmware. The other get automatic over-the-air updates.</p><p>My advice to anyone considering an Android phone is to go with HTC (they're still supporting the G1) or Motorola (they have their future riding on Android). Samsung isn't getting my money again.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wish I 'd known about this a few months ago.I bought an Android-based Samsung Galaxy which is great hardware-wise ( standard connectors , 8GB flash built-in and still the best-looking Android phone out there , in my opinion ) , but looks to be basically abandoned software-wise.Just this week Samsung pushed another small update for the same Android 1.5 which came with the system at a time when Android 2.1 devices are already available from other vendors .
There have been rumours that Samsung has no intentions of upgrading the system software to even 1.6 , and they 're not communicating anything to the community.This sucks since more and more apps are coming out requiring at least 1.6 , such as the google maps navigation and google goggles.Hell , at least they could allow changes to the baseband so that the community could build their own system .
It kind of defeats the whole purpose of having an open-source OS when you ca n't use the radio because it 's locked down [ twitter.com ] .In fact , unlike other Android phones , you need Samsung 's crappy , bloated , windows-only software just to upgrade the system 's firmware .
The other get automatic over-the-air updates.My advice to anyone considering an Android phone is to go with HTC ( they 're still supporting the G1 ) or Motorola ( they have their future riding on Android ) .
Samsung is n't getting my money again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wish I'd known about this a few months ago.I bought an Android-based Samsung Galaxy which is great hardware-wise (standard connectors, 8GB flash built-in and still the best-looking Android phone out there, in my opinion), but looks to be basically abandoned software-wise.Just this week Samsung pushed another small update for the same Android 1.5 which came with the system at a time when Android 2.1 devices are already available from other vendors.
There have been rumours that Samsung has no intentions of upgrading the system software to even 1.6, and they're not communicating anything to the community.This sucks since more and more apps are coming out requiring at least 1.6, such as the google maps navigation and google goggles.Hell, at least they could allow changes to the baseband so that the community could build their own system.
It kind of defeats the whole purpose of having an open-source OS when you can't use the radio because it's locked down [twitter.com].In fact, unlike other Android phones, you need Samsung's crappy, bloated, windows-only software just to upgrade the system's firmware.
The other get automatic over-the-air updates.My advice to anyone considering an Android phone is to go with HTC (they're still supporting the G1) or Motorola (they have their future riding on Android).
Samsung isn't getting my money again.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30390760</id>
	<title>Egh</title>
	<author>Tarlus</author>
	<datestamp>1260470220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm all for competition, but when so many competitors start to cross the line of market saturation it really just sets us back to where we started.</p><p>I mean, I like the idea of having the iPhones and Androids and Palm Pre's duking it out for domination of the mobile phone market but when you have dozens of other types of phone OS's all trying to get in on the action then suddenly we're back to where we started. Hundreds of phones and no real consistency between them.</p><p>And before Slashdotters inevitably decide that it's necessary to coldly argue or otherwise patronize me for this post, please bear in mind that it's my own opinion, resultant of my own experience.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm all for competition , but when so many competitors start to cross the line of market saturation it really just sets us back to where we started.I mean , I like the idea of having the iPhones and Androids and Palm Pre 's duking it out for domination of the mobile phone market but when you have dozens of other types of phone OS 's all trying to get in on the action then suddenly we 're back to where we started .
Hundreds of phones and no real consistency between them.And before Slashdotters inevitably decide that it 's necessary to coldly argue or otherwise patronize me for this post , please bear in mind that it 's my own opinion , resultant of my own experience .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm all for competition, but when so many competitors start to cross the line of market saturation it really just sets us back to where we started.I mean, I like the idea of having the iPhones and Androids and Palm Pre's duking it out for domination of the mobile phone market but when you have dozens of other types of phone OS's all trying to get in on the action then suddenly we're back to where we started.
Hundreds of phones and no real consistency between them.And before Slashdotters inevitably decide that it's necessary to coldly argue or otherwise patronize me for this post, please bear in mind that it's my own opinion, resultant of my own experience.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_10_0231228.30393520</id>
	<title>Re:OS wars are over</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1260436980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So it IS Windows! ^^</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So it IS Windows !
^ ^</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So it IS Windows!
^^</sentencetext>
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