<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_12_09_2319211</id>
	<title>Five Top Publishers Plan Rival to Kindle Format</title>
	<author>samzenpus</author>
	<datestamp>1260358560000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>eldavojohn writes <i>"Time Inc., News Corp., Conde Nast, Hearst Corp., and Meredith Corp. are <a href="http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory?id=9278513">teaming up to create a digital newsstand</a> and somewhat open format that 'can render our content beautifully on those devices that come to market' instead of the gray inked Kindle's energy conscious display.  Devices are being made for the new format with the launch coming next year.  The format will also target smart phones and tablet computers.  Will this pose a threat at all to the Kindle?"</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>eldavojohn writes " Time Inc. , News Corp. , Conde Nast , Hearst Corp. , and Meredith Corp. are teaming up to create a digital newsstand and somewhat open format that 'can render our content beautifully on those devices that come to market ' instead of the gray inked Kindle 's energy conscious display .
Devices are being made for the new format with the launch coming next year .
The format will also target smart phones and tablet computers .
Will this pose a threat at all to the Kindle ?
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<sentencetext>eldavojohn writes "Time Inc., News Corp., Conde Nast, Hearst Corp., and Meredith Corp. are teaming up to create a digital newsstand and somewhat open format that 'can render our content beautifully on those devices that come to market' instead of the gray inked Kindle's energy conscious display.
Devices are being made for the new format with the launch coming next year.
The format will also target smart phones and tablet computers.
Will this pose a threat at all to the Kindle?
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_2319211.30383096</id>
	<title>Re:Kindle's energy conscious display</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259586420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>its not like the kindle is a linux machine that amazon cant add this new magic format to is it?... iirc people are dumb</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>its not like the kindle is a linux machine that amazon cant add this new magic format to is it ? .. .
iirc people are dumb</tokentext>
<sentencetext>its not like the kindle is a linux machine that amazon cant add this new magic format to is it?...
iirc people are dumb</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_2319211.30382862</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_2319211.30382948</id>
	<title>Oh? NewsCorp?</title>
	<author>Improv</author>
	<datestamp>1259585580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is Murdoch's News Corp actually going to enter the news business?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is Murdoch 's News Corp actually going to enter the news business ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is Murdoch's News Corp actually going to enter the news business?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_2319211.30386904</id>
	<title>They already lost my attention by saying:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260452160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"...instead of the gray inked Kindle's energy conscious display."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" ...instead of the gray inked Kindle 's energy conscious display .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"...instead of the gray inked Kindle's energy conscious display.
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_2319211.30383652</id>
	<title>Re:Tough call...</title>
	<author>DragonWriter</author>
	<datestamp>1259589840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Even if this gets nicely marketed and gains a decent amount of traction into the current eBook user market, what will this do to make people want eBooks?</p></div></blockquote><p>Its not designed to make people want eBooks.</p><p>Its designed to provide an alternative existing ebook distributors to increase the share of sales revenue that the publishers of (dying) print periodicals can extract from sales of electronic editions, and to increase the advertising sales that can be realized by those same publishers. One of the big things they trumpet about it is how attractive their platform will be <i>for advertising</i>.</p><p>Broadening the ebook market isn't their intent.</p><blockquote><div><p>However, I'd like to assert that what REALLY drives magazine sales are super catchy headlines and pictures relevant to our interests.</p></div></blockquote><p>And, no doubt, in addition to being a platform for <i>outside</i> advertisers, their reader will tightly integrate cross-promotional advertising (no doubt, taking into account each user's reading habits to select ads) to place teaser ads for other products to promote impulse buys.</p><blockquote><div><p>As an alternative, I think that consumers would be better served with a coalition that really investigated the sociology, psychology and technology behind what people really want in digital book readers.</p></div></blockquote><p>For profit companies don't exist to serve consumers, they exist to serve their investors. Whose going to fund the coalition you propose?</p><blockquote><div><p>One screen works fine for short text, like newspaper articles and such, but doesn't have the same ease of use when reading novels that are hundreds of pages long!</p></div></blockquote><p>IME, it works okay for novels, even on the miniature, LCD (rather than eInk) screen of the iPhone. But, yeah, a bigger screen than that, or than most current ebook readers, would be nice -- and there are lots of new e-ink readers with bigger screens that are coming out.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Even if this gets nicely marketed and gains a decent amount of traction into the current eBook user market , what will this do to make people want eBooks ? Its not designed to make people want eBooks.Its designed to provide an alternative existing ebook distributors to increase the share of sales revenue that the publishers of ( dying ) print periodicals can extract from sales of electronic editions , and to increase the advertising sales that can be realized by those same publishers .
One of the big things they trumpet about it is how attractive their platform will be for advertising.Broadening the ebook market is n't their intent.However , I 'd like to assert that what REALLY drives magazine sales are super catchy headlines and pictures relevant to our interests.And , no doubt , in addition to being a platform for outside advertisers , their reader will tightly integrate cross-promotional advertising ( no doubt , taking into account each user 's reading habits to select ads ) to place teaser ads for other products to promote impulse buys.As an alternative , I think that consumers would be better served with a coalition that really investigated the sociology , psychology and technology behind what people really want in digital book readers.For profit companies do n't exist to serve consumers , they exist to serve their investors .
Whose going to fund the coalition you propose ? One screen works fine for short text , like newspaper articles and such , but does n't have the same ease of use when reading novels that are hundreds of pages long ! IME , it works okay for novels , even on the miniature , LCD ( rather than eInk ) screen of the iPhone .
But , yeah , a bigger screen than that , or than most current ebook readers , would be nice -- and there are lots of new e-ink readers with bigger screens that are coming out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even if this gets nicely marketed and gains a decent amount of traction into the current eBook user market, what will this do to make people want eBooks?Its not designed to make people want eBooks.Its designed to provide an alternative existing ebook distributors to increase the share of sales revenue that the publishers of (dying) print periodicals can extract from sales of electronic editions, and to increase the advertising sales that can be realized by those same publishers.
One of the big things they trumpet about it is how attractive their platform will be for advertising.Broadening the ebook market isn't their intent.However, I'd like to assert that what REALLY drives magazine sales are super catchy headlines and pictures relevant to our interests.And, no doubt, in addition to being a platform for outside advertisers, their reader will tightly integrate cross-promotional advertising (no doubt, taking into account each user's reading habits to select ads) to place teaser ads for other products to promote impulse buys.As an alternative, I think that consumers would be better served with a coalition that really investigated the sociology, psychology and technology behind what people really want in digital book readers.For profit companies don't exist to serve consumers, they exist to serve their investors.
Whose going to fund the coalition you propose?One screen works fine for short text, like newspaper articles and such, but doesn't have the same ease of use when reading novels that are hundreds of pages long!IME, it works okay for novels, even on the miniature, LCD (rather than eInk) screen of the iPhone.
But, yeah, a bigger screen than that, or than most current ebook readers, would be nice -- and there are lots of new e-ink readers with bigger screens that are coming out.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_2319211.30382804</id>
	<title>Yet Another Format</title>
	<author>wumpus188</author>
	<datestamp>1259584740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> What's wrong with ePub?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What 's wrong with ePub ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext> What's wrong with ePub?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_2319211.30383454</id>
	<title>I'm already reading magazines on my handheld.</title>
	<author>argent</author>
	<datestamp>1259588700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm reading Asimov's SF January 2010 edition right now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm reading Asimov 's SF January 2010 edition right now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm reading Asimov's SF January 2010 edition right now.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_2319211.30383236</id>
	<title>Will it effect the kindle? No</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259587200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Daily news and publications aren't good on the kindle not because of lack of color, and pictures.  It has more to do with pricing and the fact I can get it at the website instead.</p><p>I'll agree that as far as publications go, the current format limitations are pretty terrible for news, but there isn't a great way to display the information of a newspaper.  Reading a newspaper and reading the articles of a newspaper are 2 different things.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Daily news and publications are n't good on the kindle not because of lack of color , and pictures .
It has more to do with pricing and the fact I can get it at the website instead.I 'll agree that as far as publications go , the current format limitations are pretty terrible for news , but there is n't a great way to display the information of a newspaper .
Reading a newspaper and reading the articles of a newspaper are 2 different things .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Daily news and publications aren't good on the kindle not because of lack of color, and pictures.
It has more to do with pricing and the fact I can get it at the website instead.I'll agree that as far as publications go, the current format limitations are pretty terrible for news, but there isn't a great way to display the information of a newspaper.
Reading a newspaper and reading the articles of a newspaper are 2 different things.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_2319211.30384118</id>
	<title>HTML does color</title>
	<author>rossdee</author>
	<datestamp>1259593620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'll keep reading in HTML, so no thanks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'll keep reading in HTML , so no thanks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'll keep reading in HTML, so no thanks.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_2319211.30384716</id>
	<title>I called it..</title>
	<author>Renraku</author>
	<datestamp>1259599380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I used to work for a magazine distributor and have seen this coming for at least a few years.  Now the distributor is out of business, but far before the time of a workable digital magazine download/viewing system.  The big publishers are looking to cut their costs some more.  They're raking in ridiculous profit, but always want more.  Getting rid of actual physical product in stores would be a great way to do that!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I used to work for a magazine distributor and have seen this coming for at least a few years .
Now the distributor is out of business , but far before the time of a workable digital magazine download/viewing system .
The big publishers are looking to cut their costs some more .
They 're raking in ridiculous profit , but always want more .
Getting rid of actual physical product in stores would be a great way to do that !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I used to work for a magazine distributor and have seen this coming for at least a few years.
Now the distributor is out of business, but far before the time of a workable digital magazine download/viewing system.
The big publishers are looking to cut their costs some more.
They're raking in ridiculous profit, but always want more.
Getting rid of actual physical product in stores would be a great way to do that!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_2319211.30382806</id>
	<title>Where have I heard this before...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259584740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>From TFA: "...technology that would display in color and work on a variety of devices."</p><p>Wow, its taken them this long to find out about HTML?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>From TFA : " ...technology that would display in color and work on a variety of devices .
" Wow , its taken them this long to find out about HTML ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From TFA: "...technology that would display in color and work on a variety of devices.
"Wow, its taken them this long to find out about HTML?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_2319211.30383360</id>
	<title>Five Top Publishers Plan Rival to Kindle Format</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259588160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Of course this all has to EXIST before any of these question matter...<br>I'll keep my money in my pocket.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Of course this all has to EXIST before any of these question matter...I 'll keep my money in my pocket .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of course this all has to EXIST before any of these question matter...I'll keep my money in my pocket.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_2319211.30387034</id>
	<title>mobi</title>
	<author>OrangeTide</author>
	<datestamp>1260453540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>mobipocket and topaz does color just fine. most Kindle ebooks are actually in color, you just see them in gray because that's the trade off of a display that is a power miser and also readable in a wide range of lighting environments. The device also supports PDF (poorly). And formats like ePub can display just about anything you can do in CSS/HTML4. not that Kindle supports ePub, but really this is more about format wars than price.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>mobipocket and topaz does color just fine .
most Kindle ebooks are actually in color , you just see them in gray because that 's the trade off of a display that is a power miser and also readable in a wide range of lighting environments .
The device also supports PDF ( poorly ) .
And formats like ePub can display just about anything you can do in CSS/HTML4 .
not that Kindle supports ePub , but really this is more about format wars than price .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>mobipocket and topaz does color just fine.
most Kindle ebooks are actually in color, you just see them in gray because that's the trade off of a display that is a power miser and also readable in a wide range of lighting environments.
The device also supports PDF (poorly).
And formats like ePub can display just about anything you can do in CSS/HTML4.
not that Kindle supports ePub, but really this is more about format wars than price.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_2319211.30382828</id>
	<title>Oh, you mean like</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259584860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDF" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">PDF?</a> [wikipedia.org]  Or does "open" mean "open... to anyone who wants to pay and sign our NDA"?</htmltext>
<tokenext>PDF ?
[ wikipedia.org ] Or does " open " mean " open... to anyone who wants to pay and sign our NDA " ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>PDF?
[wikipedia.org]  Or does "open" mean "open... to anyone who wants to pay and sign our NDA"?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_2319211.30382822</id>
	<title>Yes because I've always Wished</title>
	<author>Monkeedude1212</author>
	<datestamp>1259584800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That reading the news drew more of my battery for the sake of colours.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>instead of the gray inked Kindle's energy conscious display</p></div></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>That reading the news drew more of my battery for the sake of colours.instead of the gray inked Kindle 's energy conscious display</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That reading the news drew more of my battery for the sake of colours.instead of the gray inked Kindle's energy conscious display
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_2319211.30384920</id>
	<title>Re:People keep missing the point</title>
	<author>Wovel</author>
	<datestamp>1259601960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I read two-three books a week on my DX and if I am not using the wireless much, it lasts me more than a week on a charge usually closer to 2 weeks.  I also spend a lot of time talking to people about (Two flights a week almost every person I sit next to has a question) and many of them do indeed seem to pout about the color.</p><p>I have no desire to look at a backlit screen after spending the day with a computer.  One day they will perfect color eInk, and then there really will be a revolution.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I read two-three books a week on my DX and if I am not using the wireless much , it lasts me more than a week on a charge usually closer to 2 weeks .
I also spend a lot of time talking to people about ( Two flights a week almost every person I sit next to has a question ) and many of them do indeed seem to pout about the color.I have no desire to look at a backlit screen after spending the day with a computer .
One day they will perfect color eInk , and then there really will be a revolution .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I read two-three books a week on my DX and if I am not using the wireless much, it lasts me more than a week on a charge usually closer to 2 weeks.
I also spend a lot of time talking to people about (Two flights a week almost every person I sit next to has a question) and many of them do indeed seem to pout about the color.I have no desire to look at a backlit screen after spending the day with a computer.
One day they will perfect color eInk, and then there really will be a revolution.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_2319211.30383726</id>
	<title>Re:People keep missing the point...for a long time</title>
	<author>sznupi</author>
	<datestamp>1259590380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They tend to also forget that LCD, some of them color capable, ebook readers <b>were the norm</b>. They were simply ignored.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They tend to also forget that LCD , some of them color capable , ebook readers were the norm .
They were simply ignored .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They tend to also forget that LCD, some of them color capable, ebook readers were the norm.
They were simply ignored.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_2319211.30383364</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_2319211.30383066</id>
	<title>too bad html doesn't render in color</title>
	<author>bugi</author>
	<datestamp>1259586300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>HTML renders in color too, you know.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>HTML renders in color too , you know .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>HTML renders in color too, you know.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_2319211.30384078</id>
	<title>so let me get this straight..</title>
	<author>Rytr23</author>
	<datestamp>1259593200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They want to push some color, flashy, embedded video having, online capable version of a magazine?  Hmmm.. I think I've seen that somewhere..oh,  yeah,  like a fucking website?  WTF?

This already exists,  its called the web and no,  it will not "threaten" the kindle,  whatever that means.  The kindle is pretty good at one thing,  books and the eInk is great for extended reading.  Not text books or big picture books,  but regular ol books,  you know,  the majority of books.  If you want some type of hybrid web enabled, color/video-ized,futuristic media delivery medium then I suggest you wait until apple releases its tablet next year.  Oh, and let them help you design it, dummies.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They want to push some color , flashy , embedded video having , online capable version of a magazine ?
Hmmm.. I think I 've seen that somewhere..oh , yeah , like a fucking website ?
WTF ? This already exists , its called the web and no , it will not " threaten " the kindle , whatever that means .
The kindle is pretty good at one thing , books and the eInk is great for extended reading .
Not text books or big picture books , but regular ol books , you know , the majority of books .
If you want some type of hybrid web enabled , color/video-ized,futuristic media delivery medium then I suggest you wait until apple releases its tablet next year .
Oh , and let them help you design it , dummies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They want to push some color, flashy, embedded video having, online capable version of a magazine?
Hmmm.. I think I've seen that somewhere..oh,  yeah,  like a fucking website?
WTF?

This already exists,  its called the web and no,  it will not "threaten" the kindle,  whatever that means.
The kindle is pretty good at one thing,  books and the eInk is great for extended reading.
Not text books or big picture books,  but regular ol books,  you know,  the majority of books.
If you want some type of hybrid web enabled, color/video-ized,futuristic media delivery medium then I suggest you wait until apple releases its tablet next year.
Oh, and let them help you design it, dummies.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_2319211.30382900</id>
	<title>Not threat at all to the Kindle...</title>
	<author>nhytefall</author>
	<datestamp>1259585280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>... cause I still get my reading material in that old standard... print.text</htmltext>
<tokenext>... cause I still get my reading material in that old standard... print.text</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... cause I still get my reading material in that old standard... print.text</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_2319211.30384068</id>
	<title>Re:Where have I heard this before...</title>
	<author>timeOday</author>
	<datestamp>1259593200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>HTML doesn't offer sufficient control over layout.  Subsequent to HTML 1.0 a sequence of band-aids (like css) have been designed to address the problem, at the cost of more and more complexity.  Often publishers just want to specify the layout, not open it up to complex negotiation with the client.</htmltext>
<tokenext>HTML does n't offer sufficient control over layout .
Subsequent to HTML 1.0 a sequence of band-aids ( like css ) have been designed to address the problem , at the cost of more and more complexity .
Often publishers just want to specify the layout , not open it up to complex negotiation with the client .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>HTML doesn't offer sufficient control over layout.
Subsequent to HTML 1.0 a sequence of band-aids (like css) have been designed to address the problem, at the cost of more and more complexity.
Often publishers just want to specify the layout, not open it up to complex negotiation with the client.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_2319211.30382806</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_2319211.30383000</id>
	<title>Re:Yet Another Format</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259585880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> What's wrong with ePub?</p></div><p>It's shit... like all the other eBook formats.  Of course, pleasing morons who dole out hundreds for crap like the kindle and its ilk are not exactly hard to please, so this may not be obvious to early adopters.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What 's wrong with ePub ? It 's shit... like all the other eBook formats .
Of course , pleasing morons who dole out hundreds for crap like the kindle and its ilk are not exactly hard to please , so this may not be obvious to early adopters .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> What's wrong with ePub?It's shit... like all the other eBook formats.
Of course, pleasing morons who dole out hundreds for crap like the kindle and its ilk are not exactly hard to please, so this may not be obvious to early adopters.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_2319211.30382804</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_2319211.30384722</id>
	<title>Re:about time, Kindle sucks</title>
	<author>Bigjeff5</author>
	<datestamp>1259599500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>eInk (like the Kindle display) is definitely nice to read but a little color and maybe some sound would definitely help.</p></div><p>They would have to get rid of the eink to do that, and reading on backlit LCDs sucks, as anybody who sits in front of a computer all day can tell you.</p><p>I can almost guarantee that this device will not compete with any traditional eInk readers.  At best it will compete poorly with netbooks, but you seriously don't want to be reading a novel on one.  Getting the news might be fine, but seriously, why not just get a netbook for news and youtube and whatever locked-down lame-ass equivalent they'll be putting in their tablet?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>eInk ( like the Kindle display ) is definitely nice to read but a little color and maybe some sound would definitely help.They would have to get rid of the eink to do that , and reading on backlit LCDs sucks , as anybody who sits in front of a computer all day can tell you.I can almost guarantee that this device will not compete with any traditional eInk readers .
At best it will compete poorly with netbooks , but you seriously do n't want to be reading a novel on one .
Getting the news might be fine , but seriously , why not just get a netbook for news and youtube and whatever locked-down lame-ass equivalent they 'll be putting in their tablet ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>eInk (like the Kindle display) is definitely nice to read but a little color and maybe some sound would definitely help.They would have to get rid of the eink to do that, and reading on backlit LCDs sucks, as anybody who sits in front of a computer all day can tell you.I can almost guarantee that this device will not compete with any traditional eInk readers.
At best it will compete poorly with netbooks, but you seriously don't want to be reading a novel on one.
Getting the news might be fine, but seriously, why not just get a netbook for news and youtube and whatever locked-down lame-ass equivalent they'll be putting in their tablet?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_2319211.30382918</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_2319211.30383474</id>
	<title>Re:Yet Another Format</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259588820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>ePub is an ebook format. What they're talking about is more of a multi-media format.</htmltext>
<tokenext>ePub is an ebook format .
What they 're talking about is more of a multi-media format .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>ePub is an ebook format.
What they're talking about is more of a multi-media format.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_2319211.30382804</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_2319211.30383572</id>
	<title>They just don't get it.</title>
	<author>Whillowhim</author>
	<datestamp>1259589360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Games? Social Networking? The fact that Murdoch is a part of this venture does not surprise me, because it shows an astounding lack of understanding for why people are buying ebook readers and what the market actually wants in a book reader appliance.  Namely, they failed to do prior art to find the millions of PDAs people were using to do exactly what this new format is proposing.  Or rather... not doing exactly what this format is proposing, because no one really needs it and it is an energy hog.</p><p>The Kindle and other ebook readers (i.e. the Sony one I've owned for the past 3 years) did not become popular because they were a new idea and a new device, they became popular because of a new technology: e-ink.  There were book readers before the e-ink displays came around, but very few people used them because they suffered from 2 major drawbacks.  The first was the power consumption of their displays meant that you had to plug them in and let them charge on a daily or twice daily basis.  People already have to charge their cell phones on a daily basis, but charging one twice a day when you use it a lot is pretty annoying, and a huge amount of power is spent on the display when a cell phone is being used.  The second drawback is simply screen real estate and the interface to get to it.  PDAs could do exactly what is being proposed, but they didn't because it was hard to use a handheld device in that manner.  Sure handheld gaming devices exist and are used... but they have buttons and layouts specifically tailored to using the device as a game.  The same goes for cell phones, PDAs, and ebook readers.  You can play games on cell phones, but not easily and the power usage sucks up the battery.  The new format proposal looks to do exactly the same thing to ebook readers.  Congratulations, you just re-invented the N-Gage.</p><p>The major "killer app" in the ebook market that no one is mentioning is really quite simple.  It isn't a killer display (black and white is fine for books), it isn't a fancy new display (though color would be nice, it would also be mostly useless and a major expense), and it isn't a whiz-bang new DRMed file format.  What is missing from the ebook marketplace is simply a universal storefront.  Amazon books only work with the kindle.  Sony's store only works with their ebook readers.  The same for most other ebook stores (with a wider list of readers that can use their store... but a lower percentage of people who actually have those readers).  DRM has fractured the marketplace, but selling to the entire install base of ebook readers is really quite simple because all ebook readers out there can read non-DRMed files.  It is only the stores that are enforcing DRM.  The first store to offer a wide selection of books in non-DRMed format at reasonable prices will suddenly be able to sell to 100\% of people interested in ebooks and steal market share from everyone else out there.</p><p>I could rant on this subject for days, but the bottom line is: I can get almost any book out there for free from pirates, and I don't have to worry about losing those books when I migrate from my Sony Reader to whatever device I might end up using next (the battery is finally dying).  However, I've bought most of my books from the Baen store, because I can get them fast, easily, and with good proofreading.  It is easier to read them and find them, and they aren't some OCRed crap with forced line breaks and errors.  Publishers have to understand that on the web, they're not competing against the price and convenience other publishers, they're competing against some random pirate scanning in a copy of their book and giving it away for free.  If it isn't easy to find a copy of their book that will work on my system for a reasonable price there ($15 for a paperback selling for $8 at the local bookstore?) there is no reason to give them money.</p><p>That said, there is one thing I can see some value in for the proposed format: daily deliverables.  This is something that isn't done all that well in current generation ebook reade</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Games ?
Social Networking ?
The fact that Murdoch is a part of this venture does not surprise me , because it shows an astounding lack of understanding for why people are buying ebook readers and what the market actually wants in a book reader appliance .
Namely , they failed to do prior art to find the millions of PDAs people were using to do exactly what this new format is proposing .
Or rather... not doing exactly what this format is proposing , because no one really needs it and it is an energy hog.The Kindle and other ebook readers ( i.e .
the Sony one I 've owned for the past 3 years ) did not become popular because they were a new idea and a new device , they became popular because of a new technology : e-ink .
There were book readers before the e-ink displays came around , but very few people used them because they suffered from 2 major drawbacks .
The first was the power consumption of their displays meant that you had to plug them in and let them charge on a daily or twice daily basis .
People already have to charge their cell phones on a daily basis , but charging one twice a day when you use it a lot is pretty annoying , and a huge amount of power is spent on the display when a cell phone is being used .
The second drawback is simply screen real estate and the interface to get to it .
PDAs could do exactly what is being proposed , but they did n't because it was hard to use a handheld device in that manner .
Sure handheld gaming devices exist and are used... but they have buttons and layouts specifically tailored to using the device as a game .
The same goes for cell phones , PDAs , and ebook readers .
You can play games on cell phones , but not easily and the power usage sucks up the battery .
The new format proposal looks to do exactly the same thing to ebook readers .
Congratulations , you just re-invented the N-Gage.The major " killer app " in the ebook market that no one is mentioning is really quite simple .
It is n't a killer display ( black and white is fine for books ) , it is n't a fancy new display ( though color would be nice , it would also be mostly useless and a major expense ) , and it is n't a whiz-bang new DRMed file format .
What is missing from the ebook marketplace is simply a universal storefront .
Amazon books only work with the kindle .
Sony 's store only works with their ebook readers .
The same for most other ebook stores ( with a wider list of readers that can use their store... but a lower percentage of people who actually have those readers ) .
DRM has fractured the marketplace , but selling to the entire install base of ebook readers is really quite simple because all ebook readers out there can read non-DRMed files .
It is only the stores that are enforcing DRM .
The first store to offer a wide selection of books in non-DRMed format at reasonable prices will suddenly be able to sell to 100 \ % of people interested in ebooks and steal market share from everyone else out there.I could rant on this subject for days , but the bottom line is : I can get almost any book out there for free from pirates , and I do n't have to worry about losing those books when I migrate from my Sony Reader to whatever device I might end up using next ( the battery is finally dying ) .
However , I 've bought most of my books from the Baen store , because I can get them fast , easily , and with good proofreading .
It is easier to read them and find them , and they are n't some OCRed crap with forced line breaks and errors .
Publishers have to understand that on the web , they 're not competing against the price and convenience other publishers , they 're competing against some random pirate scanning in a copy of their book and giving it away for free .
If it is n't easy to find a copy of their book that will work on my system for a reasonable price there ( $ 15 for a paperback selling for $ 8 at the local bookstore ?
) there is no reason to give them money.That said , there is one thing I can see some value in for the proposed format : daily deliverables .
This is something that is n't done all that well in current generation ebook reade</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Games?
Social Networking?
The fact that Murdoch is a part of this venture does not surprise me, because it shows an astounding lack of understanding for why people are buying ebook readers and what the market actually wants in a book reader appliance.
Namely, they failed to do prior art to find the millions of PDAs people were using to do exactly what this new format is proposing.
Or rather... not doing exactly what this format is proposing, because no one really needs it and it is an energy hog.The Kindle and other ebook readers (i.e.
the Sony one I've owned for the past 3 years) did not become popular because they were a new idea and a new device, they became popular because of a new technology: e-ink.
There were book readers before the e-ink displays came around, but very few people used them because they suffered from 2 major drawbacks.
The first was the power consumption of their displays meant that you had to plug them in and let them charge on a daily or twice daily basis.
People already have to charge their cell phones on a daily basis, but charging one twice a day when you use it a lot is pretty annoying, and a huge amount of power is spent on the display when a cell phone is being used.
The second drawback is simply screen real estate and the interface to get to it.
PDAs could do exactly what is being proposed, but they didn't because it was hard to use a handheld device in that manner.
Sure handheld gaming devices exist and are used... but they have buttons and layouts specifically tailored to using the device as a game.
The same goes for cell phones, PDAs, and ebook readers.
You can play games on cell phones, but not easily and the power usage sucks up the battery.
The new format proposal looks to do exactly the same thing to ebook readers.
Congratulations, you just re-invented the N-Gage.The major "killer app" in the ebook market that no one is mentioning is really quite simple.
It isn't a killer display (black and white is fine for books), it isn't a fancy new display (though color would be nice, it would also be mostly useless and a major expense), and it isn't a whiz-bang new DRMed file format.
What is missing from the ebook marketplace is simply a universal storefront.
Amazon books only work with the kindle.
Sony's store only works with their ebook readers.
The same for most other ebook stores (with a wider list of readers that can use their store... but a lower percentage of people who actually have those readers).
DRM has fractured the marketplace, but selling to the entire install base of ebook readers is really quite simple because all ebook readers out there can read non-DRMed files.
It is only the stores that are enforcing DRM.
The first store to offer a wide selection of books in non-DRMed format at reasonable prices will suddenly be able to sell to 100\% of people interested in ebooks and steal market share from everyone else out there.I could rant on this subject for days, but the bottom line is: I can get almost any book out there for free from pirates, and I don't have to worry about losing those books when I migrate from my Sony Reader to whatever device I might end up using next (the battery is finally dying).
However, I've bought most of my books from the Baen store, because I can get them fast, easily, and with good proofreading.
It is easier to read them and find them, and they aren't some OCRed crap with forced line breaks and errors.
Publishers have to understand that on the web, they're not competing against the price and convenience other publishers, they're competing against some random pirate scanning in a copy of their book and giving it away for free.
If it isn't easy to find a copy of their book that will work on my system for a reasonable price there ($15 for a paperback selling for $8 at the local bookstore?
) there is no reason to give them money.That said, there is one thing I can see some value in for the proposed format: daily deliverables.
This is something that isn't done all that well in current generation ebook reade</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_2319211.30386020</id>
	<title>Here we go again!</title>
	<author>WheelDweller</author>
	<datestamp>1260440160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've been computing since 1978. I remember CP/M. I might even have some source code. Ya know why CP/M worked? It made important parts of the computer *THE*SAME* as other manufacturers.  Nowdays, that's called "The BIOS".</p><p>So each of these classically-trained business-school types will go out and make completely-different versions of the "less" command with different bells and whistles so THEY will be the "next IBM".</p><p>They're not idiots; they're mired in group-think. Isn't it time to upgrade the school curriculum again?</p><p>In 1929, we had a stock market crash, causing the Great Depression.  It was huge, miserable, and something no one wants again.  THOSE PEOPLE who were guiding the market were trained closer to the turn of the century with this idea:</p><p>"Any time you create a product, you immediately create the demand."</p><p>Brainless, huh? I 'create a product' every time I go to the bathroom. That doesn't mean anyone actually wants it.</p><p>Please, guys-  Learn?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been computing since 1978 .
I remember CP/M .
I might even have some source code .
Ya know why CP/M worked ?
It made important parts of the computer * THE * SAME * as other manufacturers .
Nowdays , that 's called " The BIOS " .So each of these classically-trained business-school types will go out and make completely-different versions of the " less " command with different bells and whistles so THEY will be the " next IBM " .They 're not idiots ; they 're mired in group-think .
Is n't it time to upgrade the school curriculum again ? In 1929 , we had a stock market crash , causing the Great Depression .
It was huge , miserable , and something no one wants again .
THOSE PEOPLE who were guiding the market were trained closer to the turn of the century with this idea : " Any time you create a product , you immediately create the demand .
" Brainless , huh ?
I 'create a product ' every time I go to the bathroom .
That does n't mean anyone actually wants it.Please , guys- Learn ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been computing since 1978.
I remember CP/M.
I might even have some source code.
Ya know why CP/M worked?
It made important parts of the computer *THE*SAME* as other manufacturers.
Nowdays, that's called "The BIOS".So each of these classically-trained business-school types will go out and make completely-different versions of the "less" command with different bells and whistles so THEY will be the "next IBM".They're not idiots; they're mired in group-think.
Isn't it time to upgrade the school curriculum again?In 1929, we had a stock market crash, causing the Great Depression.
It was huge, miserable, and something no one wants again.
THOSE PEOPLE who were guiding the market were trained closer to the turn of the century with this idea:"Any time you create a product, you immediately create the demand.
"Brainless, huh?
I 'create a product' every time I go to the bathroom.
That doesn't mean anyone actually wants it.Please, guys-  Learn?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_2319211.30384240</id>
	<title>Somewhat open format</title>
	<author>Arancaytar</author>
	<datestamp>1259594700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Did "open format" and "News Corp" just get mentioned in the same sentence? Even "somewhat"?</p><p>Ha. Ha. Ha.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Did " open format " and " News Corp " just get mentioned in the same sentence ?
Even " somewhat " ? Ha .
Ha. Ha .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Did "open format" and "News Corp" just get mentioned in the same sentence?
Even "somewhat"?Ha.
Ha. Ha.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_2319211.30384906</id>
	<title>I for one would like colour...</title>
	<author>pdaoust007</author>
	<datestamp>1259601780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The only thing stopping me from buying one of these E-ink readers is the fact they only render in shades of gray.  Sure that's perfectly fine for reading a novel or even newspapers but if you are reading a book about photography for example, well unless the book is about B&amp;W photography you are kind of missing out on the whole point...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The only thing stopping me from buying one of these E-ink readers is the fact they only render in shades of gray .
Sure that 's perfectly fine for reading a novel or even newspapers but if you are reading a book about photography for example , well unless the book is about B&amp;W photography you are kind of missing out on the whole point.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The only thing stopping me from buying one of these E-ink readers is the fact they only render in shades of gray.
Sure that's perfectly fine for reading a novel or even newspapers but if you are reading a book about photography for example, well unless the book is about B&amp;W photography you are kind of missing out on the whole point...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_2319211.30382874</id>
	<title>Axis of Evil</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259585100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's a real axis of evil</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's a real axis of evil</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's a real axis of evil</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_2319211.30383058</id>
	<title>not really Color x Energy</title>
	<author>xirusmom</author>
	<datestamp>1259586240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>A device could have different settings, so you could turn on the color just when you want it.
That said... the same could be done for a netbook. So while they may be highlighting the "pretty pictures", the main reason is to have a dedicated device is, of course, content control.


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My husband is always trying to convince me that I, like him, am a geek. I keep telling him: yIDoghQo'</htmltext>
<tokenext>A device could have different settings , so you could turn on the color just when you want it .
That said... the same could be done for a netbook .
So while they may be highlighting the " pretty pictures " , the main reason is to have a dedicated device is , of course , content control .
----- My husband is always trying to convince me that I , like him , am a geek .
I keep telling him : yIDoghQo'</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A device could have different settings, so you could turn on the color just when you want it.
That said... the same could be done for a netbook.
So while they may be highlighting the "pretty pictures", the main reason is to have a dedicated device is, of course, content control.
-----
My husband is always trying to convince me that I, like him, am a geek.
I keep telling him: yIDoghQo'</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_2319211.30385110</id>
	<title>Yayyy proprietary</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259604120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yayyyyy proprietary!  Yeah, proprietary.  That'll sell.  Locked in or locked out.  Yeah.  That will earn you the wrath of customers with 30 boxes for every format, nothing working with anything else.  There are a pile of formats that are non-proprietary and well designed.  But these clowns won't go for that.  They are in for making the big bucks, and filling landfills and not giving a damn about angry customers.  They had a medium that was universal.  They had to draw customers with content.  If the content is acceptable, they get more customers.  If the content isn't acceptable, they lose customers.  The old format doesn't lock customers in or out.  The new format can.  Will their first big foray into this new medium be a screwup?  Survey says yep!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yayyyyy proprietary !
Yeah , proprietary .
That 'll sell .
Locked in or locked out .
Yeah. That will earn you the wrath of customers with 30 boxes for every format , nothing working with anything else .
There are a pile of formats that are non-proprietary and well designed .
But these clowns wo n't go for that .
They are in for making the big bucks , and filling landfills and not giving a damn about angry customers .
They had a medium that was universal .
They had to draw customers with content .
If the content is acceptable , they get more customers .
If the content is n't acceptable , they lose customers .
The old format does n't lock customers in or out .
The new format can .
Will their first big foray into this new medium be a screwup ?
Survey says yep !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yayyyyy proprietary!
Yeah, proprietary.
That'll sell.
Locked in or locked out.
Yeah.  That will earn you the wrath of customers with 30 boxes for every format, nothing working with anything else.
There are a pile of formats that are non-proprietary and well designed.
But these clowns won't go for that.
They are in for making the big bucks, and filling landfills and not giving a damn about angry customers.
They had a medium that was universal.
They had to draw customers with content.
If the content is acceptable, they get more customers.
If the content isn't acceptable, they lose customers.
The old format doesn't lock customers in or out.
The new format can.
Will their first big foray into this new medium be a screwup?
Survey says yep!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_2319211.30383254</id>
	<title>Re:Oh, you mean like</title>
	<author>digitig</author>
	<datestamp>1259587260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Open at least means not having the page and font sizes hard-wired into the document, so it can be read on different readers at different font sizes.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Open at least means not having the page and font sizes hard-wired into the document , so it can be read on different readers at different font sizes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Open at least means not having the page and font sizes hard-wired into the document, so it can be read on different readers at different font sizes.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_2319211.30382828</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_2319211.30383314</id>
	<title>Tough call...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259587740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Even if this gets nicely marketed and gains a decent amount of traction into the current eBook user market, what will this do to make people <i>want</i> eBooks?</p><p>iPhone owners, of which there are SIGNIFICANTLY more of, can get their daily news much, much easier. Unless there are a sizable number of avid readers that would benefit from having these digital readers (which they wouldn't, considering the DRM and their anti-sharing nature), I don't think prettifying magazines and such for use with readers is a good solution. Furthermore, magazines are a bit touchy, since a LOT of them are sold right from the stands because of their convenience. I'm sure that a digital model would work better for subscription-based magazines like Time that would work well as a digital platform. However, I'd like to assert that what REALLY drives magazine sales are super catchy headlines and pictures relevant to our interests. There's a reason why tabloids and celebrity trash is incredibly popular with women...</p><p>As an alternative, I think that consumers would be better served with a coalition that really investigated the sociology, psychology and technology behind what people <i>really</i> want in digital book readers.</p><p>Here are a few examples showing why this is needed. Most readers come with keyboards, physical and/or virtual, but they are mostly useless. Additionally, the Nook comes with a color screen...but its introductory review only gave it fair marks. Even further, they come with cellular radios so that people can download books on the fly...but only work in the United States AND are still carrier-locked! Worse, with the exception of the Nook, they don't have Wifi...which is probably <i>most</i> convenient to readers in areas without wireless access or without the desire of paying umpteen dollars extra per month just to download books. Finally, let's not ignore the fact that <b>they only have one screen,</b> which is completely counterintuitive to the way people read books. One screen works fine for <b>short</b> text, like newspaper articles and such, but doesn't have the same ease of use when reading novels that are hundreds of pages long!</p><p>When the iPhone was released, it had a processor that was slower than a lot of its competition, bugs up the wazoo, and <b>didn't even have copy and paste!</b> Nonetheless, it sold like hotcakes on sale for the same reason the iPod did...it was easy for people to use, <b>and it made sense to own one.</b> When eReaders approach that level of ease, I think we'll see them really (REALLY) take off.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Even if this gets nicely marketed and gains a decent amount of traction into the current eBook user market , what will this do to make people want eBooks ? iPhone owners , of which there are SIGNIFICANTLY more of , can get their daily news much , much easier .
Unless there are a sizable number of avid readers that would benefit from having these digital readers ( which they would n't , considering the DRM and their anti-sharing nature ) , I do n't think prettifying magazines and such for use with readers is a good solution .
Furthermore , magazines are a bit touchy , since a LOT of them are sold right from the stands because of their convenience .
I 'm sure that a digital model would work better for subscription-based magazines like Time that would work well as a digital platform .
However , I 'd like to assert that what REALLY drives magazine sales are super catchy headlines and pictures relevant to our interests .
There 's a reason why tabloids and celebrity trash is incredibly popular with women...As an alternative , I think that consumers would be better served with a coalition that really investigated the sociology , psychology and technology behind what people really want in digital book readers.Here are a few examples showing why this is needed .
Most readers come with keyboards , physical and/or virtual , but they are mostly useless .
Additionally , the Nook comes with a color screen...but its introductory review only gave it fair marks .
Even further , they come with cellular radios so that people can download books on the fly...but only work in the United States AND are still carrier-locked !
Worse , with the exception of the Nook , they do n't have Wifi...which is probably most convenient to readers in areas without wireless access or without the desire of paying umpteen dollars extra per month just to download books .
Finally , let 's not ignore the fact that they only have one screen , which is completely counterintuitive to the way people read books .
One screen works fine for short text , like newspaper articles and such , but does n't have the same ease of use when reading novels that are hundreds of pages long ! When the iPhone was released , it had a processor that was slower than a lot of its competition , bugs up the wazoo , and did n't even have copy and paste !
Nonetheless , it sold like hotcakes on sale for the same reason the iPod did...it was easy for people to use , and it made sense to own one .
When eReaders approach that level of ease , I think we 'll see them really ( REALLY ) take off .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even if this gets nicely marketed and gains a decent amount of traction into the current eBook user market, what will this do to make people want eBooks?iPhone owners, of which there are SIGNIFICANTLY more of, can get their daily news much, much easier.
Unless there are a sizable number of avid readers that would benefit from having these digital readers (which they wouldn't, considering the DRM and their anti-sharing nature), I don't think prettifying magazines and such for use with readers is a good solution.
Furthermore, magazines are a bit touchy, since a LOT of them are sold right from the stands because of their convenience.
I'm sure that a digital model would work better for subscription-based magazines like Time that would work well as a digital platform.
However, I'd like to assert that what REALLY drives magazine sales are super catchy headlines and pictures relevant to our interests.
There's a reason why tabloids and celebrity trash is incredibly popular with women...As an alternative, I think that consumers would be better served with a coalition that really investigated the sociology, psychology and technology behind what people really want in digital book readers.Here are a few examples showing why this is needed.
Most readers come with keyboards, physical and/or virtual, but they are mostly useless.
Additionally, the Nook comes with a color screen...but its introductory review only gave it fair marks.
Even further, they come with cellular radios so that people can download books on the fly...but only work in the United States AND are still carrier-locked!
Worse, with the exception of the Nook, they don't have Wifi...which is probably most convenient to readers in areas without wireless access or without the desire of paying umpteen dollars extra per month just to download books.
Finally, let's not ignore the fact that they only have one screen, which is completely counterintuitive to the way people read books.
One screen works fine for short text, like newspaper articles and such, but doesn't have the same ease of use when reading novels that are hundreds of pages long!When the iPhone was released, it had a processor that was slower than a lot of its competition, bugs up the wazoo, and didn't even have copy and paste!
Nonetheless, it sold like hotcakes on sale for the same reason the iPod did...it was easy for people to use, and it made sense to own one.
When eReaders approach that level of ease, I think we'll see them really (REALLY) take off.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_2319211.30382896</id>
	<title>iTunes not welcome here</title>
	<author>jpmorgan</author>
	<datestamp>1259585220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Of course. Publishers aren't stupid, they're already under Amazon's thumb, and they've seen what's happened to the music industry with Apple. It's no wonder they want to run their own digital distribution.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Of course .
Publishers are n't stupid , they 're already under Amazon 's thumb , and they 've seen what 's happened to the music industry with Apple .
It 's no wonder they want to run their own digital distribution .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of course.
Publishers aren't stupid, they're already under Amazon's thumb, and they've seen what's happened to the music industry with Apple.
It's no wonder they want to run their own digital distribution.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_2319211.30384512</id>
	<title>Re:They just don't get it.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259597280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Games? Social Networking? The fact that Murdoch is a part of this venture does not surprise me, because it shows an astounding lack of understanding for why people are buying ebook readers and what the market actually wants in a book reader appliance.</p></div></blockquote><p>It seems likely that the next generation of touchpads (like the ill-fated "crunch" or Apple's rumored device) will have a decent shot at replacing the current dedicated reader devices (and I say that as a Kindle user who likes the fact that my Kindle doesn't have a bunch of dancing raisin applications distracting me from my reading).  If that happens, it will be more like an iphone or ipod-touch experience, and users will expect to do more interaction.  (My Kindle feels clunky and ancient next to an iphone, although it is still better as a reading device in a number of ways.)</p><blockquote><div><p>That said, there is one thing I can see some value in for the proposed format: daily deliverables. This is something that isn't done all that well in current generation ebook readers, but it isn't exactly a new idea. There has been some freeware software for the Sony Reader that was able to download and sync online newspapers for you for quite some time now. I first ran into it a couple years back, but didn't actually use the functionality. The only real drawback to it was having to connect it to your computer in order to update, so wireless updating in a smooth manner would be worth some money.</p></div></blockquote><p>For years I used software like plucker to retrieve freely available newspapers and download them to a Palm Pilot.  When I got my Kindle I used Calibre to do the same thing, but I found myself actually *paying* for freely downloadable content just because it was more convenient to have it delivered to my Kindle overnight and in a hassle-free format.  Pay for Slate?  Pay for the Atlantic or the New Yorker?  Wha???  If it's cheap enough, I find myself willing to pay.  And last month it was reported that some <a href="http://www.dmwmedia.com/news/2009/11/19/wall-street-journal-counts-30,000-kindle-subscribers" title="dmwmedia.com" rel="nofollow">30,000 subscribe to the WSJ on Kindle</a> [dmwmedia.com].   Clearly, paid-for subscriptions are going to be a part of any future reader platform and any future publishing house.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Games ?
Social Networking ?
The fact that Murdoch is a part of this venture does not surprise me , because it shows an astounding lack of understanding for why people are buying ebook readers and what the market actually wants in a book reader appliance.It seems likely that the next generation of touchpads ( like the ill-fated " crunch " or Apple 's rumored device ) will have a decent shot at replacing the current dedicated reader devices ( and I say that as a Kindle user who likes the fact that my Kindle does n't have a bunch of dancing raisin applications distracting me from my reading ) .
If that happens , it will be more like an iphone or ipod-touch experience , and users will expect to do more interaction .
( My Kindle feels clunky and ancient next to an iphone , although it is still better as a reading device in a number of ways .
) That said , there is one thing I can see some value in for the proposed format : daily deliverables .
This is something that is n't done all that well in current generation ebook readers , but it is n't exactly a new idea .
There has been some freeware software for the Sony Reader that was able to download and sync online newspapers for you for quite some time now .
I first ran into it a couple years back , but did n't actually use the functionality .
The only real drawback to it was having to connect it to your computer in order to update , so wireless updating in a smooth manner would be worth some money.For years I used software like plucker to retrieve freely available newspapers and download them to a Palm Pilot .
When I got my Kindle I used Calibre to do the same thing , but I found myself actually * paying * for freely downloadable content just because it was more convenient to have it delivered to my Kindle overnight and in a hassle-free format .
Pay for Slate ?
Pay for the Atlantic or the New Yorker ?
Wha ? ? ? If it 's cheap enough , I find myself willing to pay .
And last month it was reported that some 30,000 subscribe to the WSJ on Kindle [ dmwmedia.com ] .
Clearly , paid-for subscriptions are going to be a part of any future reader platform and any future publishing house .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Games?
Social Networking?
The fact that Murdoch is a part of this venture does not surprise me, because it shows an astounding lack of understanding for why people are buying ebook readers and what the market actually wants in a book reader appliance.It seems likely that the next generation of touchpads (like the ill-fated "crunch" or Apple's rumored device) will have a decent shot at replacing the current dedicated reader devices (and I say that as a Kindle user who likes the fact that my Kindle doesn't have a bunch of dancing raisin applications distracting me from my reading).
If that happens, it will be more like an iphone or ipod-touch experience, and users will expect to do more interaction.
(My Kindle feels clunky and ancient next to an iphone, although it is still better as a reading device in a number of ways.
)That said, there is one thing I can see some value in for the proposed format: daily deliverables.
This is something that isn't done all that well in current generation ebook readers, but it isn't exactly a new idea.
There has been some freeware software for the Sony Reader that was able to download and sync online newspapers for you for quite some time now.
I first ran into it a couple years back, but didn't actually use the functionality.
The only real drawback to it was having to connect it to your computer in order to update, so wireless updating in a smooth manner would be worth some money.For years I used software like plucker to retrieve freely available newspapers and download them to a Palm Pilot.
When I got my Kindle I used Calibre to do the same thing, but I found myself actually *paying* for freely downloadable content just because it was more convenient to have it delivered to my Kindle overnight and in a hassle-free format.
Pay for Slate?
Pay for the Atlantic or the New Yorker?
Wha???  If it's cheap enough, I find myself willing to pay.
And last month it was reported that some 30,000 subscribe to the WSJ on Kindle [dmwmedia.com].
Clearly, paid-for subscriptions are going to be a part of any future reader platform and any future publishing house.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_2319211.30382918</id>
	<title>about time, Kindle sucks</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259585400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>eInk (like the Kindle display) is definitely nice to read but a little color and maybe some sound would definitely help.</p><p>Kindle might be great for reading the occasional novel but it is worthless for any kind of textbook or reference material.  Those just have too many pictures, charts, heck even syntax highlighting, and alternate fonts to be effectively used on the Kindle.</p><p>ePub may have potential as a standard but some of the current implementations are awful.  They need to learn how to restrict the reflow (I don't know how much of that is the format and how much is the implementation).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>eInk ( like the Kindle display ) is definitely nice to read but a little color and maybe some sound would definitely help.Kindle might be great for reading the occasional novel but it is worthless for any kind of textbook or reference material .
Those just have too many pictures , charts , heck even syntax highlighting , and alternate fonts to be effectively used on the Kindle.ePub may have potential as a standard but some of the current implementations are awful .
They need to learn how to restrict the reflow ( I do n't know how much of that is the format and how much is the implementation ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>eInk (like the Kindle display) is definitely nice to read but a little color and maybe some sound would definitely help.Kindle might be great for reading the occasional novel but it is worthless for any kind of textbook or reference material.
Those just have too many pictures, charts, heck even syntax highlighting, and alternate fonts to be effectively used on the Kindle.ePub may have potential as a standard but some of the current implementations are awful.
They need to learn how to restrict the reflow (I don't know how much of that is the format and how much is the implementation).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_2319211.30383998</id>
	<title>Free</title>
	<author>Nithendil</author>
	<datestamp>1259592480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The only way this would work is if they offer the reader free to subscribers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The only way this would work is if they offer the reader free to subscribers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The only way this would work is if they offer the reader free to subscribers.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_2319211.30384008</id>
	<title>Good for them</title>
	<author>BlueBoxSW.com</author>
	<datestamp>1259592600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What a great track record these companies have in designing and building hardware and software for the consumer.</p><p>Can't wait to read all about the "Kindle Killer" sometime in 2010, see it launch in 2012, and be able to buy one in the clearance rack at BestBuy in 2013.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What a great track record these companies have in designing and building hardware and software for the consumer.Ca n't wait to read all about the " Kindle Killer " sometime in 2010 , see it launch in 2012 , and be able to buy one in the clearance rack at BestBuy in 2013 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What a great track record these companies have in designing and building hardware and software for the consumer.Can't wait to read all about the "Kindle Killer" sometime in 2010, see it launch in 2012, and be able to buy one in the clearance rack at BestBuy in 2013.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_2319211.30382862</id>
	<title>Kindle's energy conscious display</title>
	<author>nurb432</author>
	<datestamp>1259585040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is a bad thing? Personally i like that feature.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is a bad thing ?
Personally i like that feature .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is a bad thing?
Personally i like that feature.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_2319211.30383744</id>
	<title>Re:Tough call...</title>
	<author>Bourdain</author>
	<datestamp>1259590440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Mod parent up<p><div class="quote"><p>without the desire of paying umpteen dollars extra per month just to download books</p></div><p>
I'm 99\% sure there is no montly data fee to use a kindle / nook / etc. --&gt; That cost is built into the unit and/or the [proprietary] media
<br> <br>
Otherwise I agree with your post in that ebooks are in a nascent state at the moment and are still years away from being popular primarily due to the limitations you listed.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Mod parent upwithout the desire of paying umpteen dollars extra per month just to download books I 'm 99 \ % sure there is no montly data fee to use a kindle / nook / etc .
-- &gt; That cost is built into the unit and/or the [ proprietary ] media Otherwise I agree with your post in that ebooks are in a nascent state at the moment and are still years away from being popular primarily due to the limitations you listed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mod parent upwithout the desire of paying umpteen dollars extra per month just to download books
I'm 99\% sure there is no montly data fee to use a kindle / nook / etc.
--&gt; That cost is built into the unit and/or the [proprietary] media
 
Otherwise I agree with your post in that ebooks are in a nascent state at the moment and are still years away from being popular primarily due to the limitations you listed.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_2319211.30386028</id>
	<title>Fine by me</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260440340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As long as somebody wires his eBook-reader and his camera to his computer and digitizes and OCRs these eBooks to HTML...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As long as somebody wires his eBook-reader and his camera to his computer and digitizes and OCRs these eBooks to HTML.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As long as somebody wires his eBook-reader and his camera to his computer and digitizes and OCRs these eBooks to HTML...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_2319211.30382974</id>
	<title>Obama has answered your call with a 'NO'</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259585700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Faggots, we know you voted in Obama hoping that you'd be able to buttfuck each other with a band around your finger but as it turns out he fucked you for a vote. Thanks for being his bitch.<br> <br>Keep it up fellows. Keep it up.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Faggots , we know you voted in Obama hoping that you 'd be able to buttfuck each other with a band around your finger but as it turns out he fucked you for a vote .
Thanks for being his bitch .
Keep it up fellows .
Keep it up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Faggots, we know you voted in Obama hoping that you'd be able to buttfuck each other with a band around your finger but as it turns out he fucked you for a vote.
Thanks for being his bitch.
Keep it up fellows.
Keep it up.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_2319211.30383710</id>
	<title>Re:People keep missing the point</title>
	<author>PeanutButterBreath</author>
	<datestamp>1259590200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Perhaps there is a market for flashy e-readers. I mean, netbooks are doing well enough.</p></div><p>And if someone wants e-books laden with flash, they should buy a damn netbook.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Perhaps there is a market for flashy e-readers .
I mean , netbooks are doing well enough.And if someone wants e-books laden with flash , they should buy a damn netbook .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perhaps there is a market for flashy e-readers.
I mean, netbooks are doing well enough.And if someone wants e-books laden with flash, they should buy a damn netbook.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_2319211.30383556</id>
	<title>Kindle - the point?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259589300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think the Kindle appeals to very specific groups of readers.  Probably someone who reads mostly news periodicals and not text-based novels, non-fiction, etc. is going to be much happier with some other device.  Nothing pleases everyone.  I do most of my reading in waiting rooms, waiting in line, and at home late at night.  I'll never need a backlight, and if I did, it would be easier to have a little LED clip-light around.  A large part of my Kindle is that I can hold it without twisting my wrists to hold heavy books - even paperbacks can be large.  And when enough people get to the age where arthritis and sight is their problem, many will take to some kind of e-reader, just for the versatility of form and fonts.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think the Kindle appeals to very specific groups of readers .
Probably someone who reads mostly news periodicals and not text-based novels , non-fiction , etc .
is going to be much happier with some other device .
Nothing pleases everyone .
I do most of my reading in waiting rooms , waiting in line , and at home late at night .
I 'll never need a backlight , and if I did , it would be easier to have a little LED clip-light around .
A large part of my Kindle is that I can hold it without twisting my wrists to hold heavy books - even paperbacks can be large .
And when enough people get to the age where arthritis and sight is their problem , many will take to some kind of e-reader , just for the versatility of form and fonts .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think the Kindle appeals to very specific groups of readers.
Probably someone who reads mostly news periodicals and not text-based novels, non-fiction, etc.
is going to be much happier with some other device.
Nothing pleases everyone.
I do most of my reading in waiting rooms, waiting in line, and at home late at night.
I'll never need a backlight, and if I did, it would be easier to have a little LED clip-light around.
A large part of my Kindle is that I can hold it without twisting my wrists to hold heavy books - even paperbacks can be large.
And when enough people get to the age where arthritis and sight is their problem, many will take to some kind of e-reader, just for the versatility of form and fonts.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_2319211.30383178</id>
	<title>Re:Oh? NewsCorp?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259586840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>NY Post, Wallstreet journal, Sun,FOX News<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.... please don't ask them to own more news.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>NY Post , Wallstreet journal , Sun,FOX News .... please do n't ask them to own more news .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>NY Post, Wallstreet journal, Sun,FOX News .... please don't ask them to own more news.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_2319211.30383364</id>
	<title>People keep missing the point</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259588160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's amazing how many people miss the point. When the Kindle and other e-readers come up in conversation, I explain time and time again exactly what e-ink is and what it means for battery life. And every single time the first thing that people ask is, "Oh, wait, so it's just in black and white?"<br>
<br>
This is just a larger group of people missing the point of e-ink. Then again, since there are so many like-minded people, maybe they have a point of their own. Perhaps there is a market for flashy e-readers. I mean, netbooks are doing well enough.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's amazing how many people miss the point .
When the Kindle and other e-readers come up in conversation , I explain time and time again exactly what e-ink is and what it means for battery life .
And every single time the first thing that people ask is , " Oh , wait , so it 's just in black and white ?
" This is just a larger group of people missing the point of e-ink .
Then again , since there are so many like-minded people , maybe they have a point of their own .
Perhaps there is a market for flashy e-readers .
I mean , netbooks are doing well enough .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's amazing how many people miss the point.
When the Kindle and other e-readers come up in conversation, I explain time and time again exactly what e-ink is and what it means for battery life.
And every single time the first thing that people ask is, "Oh, wait, so it's just in black and white?
"

This is just a larger group of people missing the point of e-ink.
Then again, since there are so many like-minded people, maybe they have a point of their own.
Perhaps there is a market for flashy e-readers.
I mean, netbooks are doing well enough.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_2319211.30383154</id>
	<title>nope</title>
	<author>Ephemeriis</author>
	<datestamp>1259586720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Will this pose a threat at all to the Kindle?</p></div><p>Nope.</p><p>Regardless of how much they like color or what kind of DRM they want to bolt on, they're also going to want to actually <i>sell</i> their content.  So they'll license the format to folks.  And if Amazon is actually threatened at all by their devices or whatever...  They'll do whatever it takes to license it.</p><p>Either that, or these companies will refuse to license the format...  Which will quickly become irrelevant because it doesn't work on many devices...  And they'll wind up abandoning it.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Will this pose a threat at all to the Kindle ? Nope.Regardless of how much they like color or what kind of DRM they want to bolt on , they 're also going to want to actually sell their content .
So they 'll license the format to folks .
And if Amazon is actually threatened at all by their devices or whatever... They 'll do whatever it takes to license it.Either that , or these companies will refuse to license the format... Which will quickly become irrelevant because it does n't work on many devices... And they 'll wind up abandoning it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Will this pose a threat at all to the Kindle?Nope.Regardless of how much they like color or what kind of DRM they want to bolt on, they're also going to want to actually sell their content.
So they'll license the format to folks.
And if Amazon is actually threatened at all by their devices or whatever...  They'll do whatever it takes to license it.Either that, or these companies will refuse to license the format...  Which will quickly become irrelevant because it doesn't work on many devices...  And they'll wind up abandoning it.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_2319211.30383302</id>
	<title>Wow</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259587680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>instead of the gray inked Kindle's energy conscious display.</p></div><p>"None of that namby pamby green shit for us," shouted Rupert 'The Dominator' Murdoch. "Our reader will run on leaded gasoline fuel cells, arsenic paste and mercury vapor canisters!" When asked about the environmental impact of such a device, Murdoch ripped out the reporter's heart and ate it in a single bite.</p><p>"Argh!" said Murdoch, and brought the press conference to a close by pissing on the press corps and killing fifty puppies.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>instead of the gray inked Kindle 's energy conscious display .
" None of that namby pamby green shit for us , " shouted Rupert 'The Dominator ' Murdoch .
" Our reader will run on leaded gasoline fuel cells , arsenic paste and mercury vapor canisters !
" When asked about the environmental impact of such a device , Murdoch ripped out the reporter 's heart and ate it in a single bite. " Argh !
" said Murdoch , and brought the press conference to a close by pissing on the press corps and killing fifty puppies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>instead of the gray inked Kindle's energy conscious display.
"None of that namby pamby green shit for us," shouted Rupert 'The Dominator' Murdoch.
"Our reader will run on leaded gasoline fuel cells, arsenic paste and mercury vapor canisters!
" When asked about the environmental impact of such a device, Murdoch ripped out the reporter's heart and ate it in a single bite."Argh!
" said Murdoch, and brought the press conference to a close by pissing on the press corps and killing fifty puppies.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_2319211.30383630</id>
	<title>The most interesting part is the very last page</title>
	<author>Areyoukiddingme</author>
	<datestamp>1259589780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The very last page of the article consists solely of a link to a Sports Illustrated Tablet concept page.  The tablet itself is the interesting part of this story.  Whether or not the<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. audience cares about Sports Illustrated or any other Time, Inc. property, we do care about gadgets, and I bet a great many of us would be perfectly willing to tolerate a year's subscription to SI if we could get that full color full motion video touch screen tablet for $150.</p><p>Let's start the betting pool on how long it will take to jailbreak the device.  I'll bet a cookie it takes less than a week.  (No, I won't take bets that it will come out anywhere near $150.  Unfortunately.)</p><p>The tablet could be everything the CrunchPad should have been before the backbiting started, except for it being open, and the odds are very good it will be possible to open it (with a can opener if necessary).</p><p>The collection of companies involved is big enough that they could push the price of the device down into the realm of the Walmart special if they wanted to get serious about it.  They have the ability to buy so many devices that it would take multiple Taiwanese manufacturers to fulfill their buy order, and when that happens, the prices drop like a rock because you can deliver the device by the pallet load, nationally, instead of dribbling out 5 here and 6 there to retailers.  The price point is everything for such a device; nobody cares if the UI is bad or good if they look at the price and decide to buy an XBox instead for less.</p><p>Whether or not this crowd of old school publishers understands that remains to be seen.  Whether or not the terms of their probable subscription plan to meet that price point is tolerable also remains to be seen.  I confess the concept video did spark a case of Want in my greedy little heart.  They can convert Want to Buy if they do it right.  And won't if they don't.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The very last page of the article consists solely of a link to a Sports Illustrated Tablet concept page .
The tablet itself is the interesting part of this story .
Whether or not the / .
audience cares about Sports Illustrated or any other Time , Inc. property , we do care about gadgets , and I bet a great many of us would be perfectly willing to tolerate a year 's subscription to SI if we could get that full color full motion video touch screen tablet for $ 150.Let 's start the betting pool on how long it will take to jailbreak the device .
I 'll bet a cookie it takes less than a week .
( No , I wo n't take bets that it will come out anywhere near $ 150 .
Unfortunately. ) The tablet could be everything the CrunchPad should have been before the backbiting started , except for it being open , and the odds are very good it will be possible to open it ( with a can opener if necessary ) .The collection of companies involved is big enough that they could push the price of the device down into the realm of the Walmart special if they wanted to get serious about it .
They have the ability to buy so many devices that it would take multiple Taiwanese manufacturers to fulfill their buy order , and when that happens , the prices drop like a rock because you can deliver the device by the pallet load , nationally , instead of dribbling out 5 here and 6 there to retailers .
The price point is everything for such a device ; nobody cares if the UI is bad or good if they look at the price and decide to buy an XBox instead for less.Whether or not this crowd of old school publishers understands that remains to be seen .
Whether or not the terms of their probable subscription plan to meet that price point is tolerable also remains to be seen .
I confess the concept video did spark a case of Want in my greedy little heart .
They can convert Want to Buy if they do it right .
And wo n't if they do n't .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The very last page of the article consists solely of a link to a Sports Illustrated Tablet concept page.
The tablet itself is the interesting part of this story.
Whether or not the /.
audience cares about Sports Illustrated or any other Time, Inc. property, we do care about gadgets, and I bet a great many of us would be perfectly willing to tolerate a year's subscription to SI if we could get that full color full motion video touch screen tablet for $150.Let's start the betting pool on how long it will take to jailbreak the device.
I'll bet a cookie it takes less than a week.
(No, I won't take bets that it will come out anywhere near $150.
Unfortunately.)The tablet could be everything the CrunchPad should have been before the backbiting started, except for it being open, and the odds are very good it will be possible to open it (with a can opener if necessary).The collection of companies involved is big enough that they could push the price of the device down into the realm of the Walmart special if they wanted to get serious about it.
They have the ability to buy so many devices that it would take multiple Taiwanese manufacturers to fulfill their buy order, and when that happens, the prices drop like a rock because you can deliver the device by the pallet load, nationally, instead of dribbling out 5 here and 6 there to retailers.
The price point is everything for such a device; nobody cares if the UI is bad or good if they look at the price and decide to buy an XBox instead for less.Whether or not this crowd of old school publishers understands that remains to be seen.
Whether or not the terms of their probable subscription plan to meet that price point is tolerable also remains to be seen.
I confess the concept video did spark a case of Want in my greedy little heart.
They can convert Want to Buy if they do it right.
And won't if they don't.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_2319211.30384650</id>
	<title>Re:Yet Another Format</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259598600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>epub is literally a zip file with html, javascript, css, flash and a manifest file. What more do you need?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>epub is literally a zip file with html , javascript , css , flash and a manifest file .
What more do you need ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>epub is literally a zip file with html, javascript, css, flash and a manifest file.
What more do you need?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_2319211.30383474</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_2319211.30384150</id>
	<title>"somewhat" open format</title>
	<author>sehlat</author>
	<datestamp>1259593920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Which, I suppose, is like a "somewhat" honest politician.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Which , I suppose , is like a " somewhat " honest politician .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Which, I suppose, is like a "somewhat" honest politician.</sentencetext>
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