<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_12_09_188251</id>
	<title>Adobe Takes On Microsoft Role In E-book Market</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1260382200000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>ericatcw writes <i>"Barnes &amp; Noble, Sony and other e-book vendors may have the manufacturing muscle, but the <a href="http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9142005/Amazon\_s\_Kindle\_winning\_battle\_but\_Adobe\_poised\_to\_win\_e\_book\_war">brains directing the challenge against Amazon.com's Kindle eBook Reader</a> is Adobe Systems. Like Microsoft, Adobe has built a formidable ecosystem of partners to whom it supplies software such as its encryption/DRM-creating Adobe Content Server. Adobe paints Amazon as being like Apple: secretive and playing badly with others. Amazon argues it just ain't so, and <a href="http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9142008/Adobe\_bends\_a\_little\_on\_eBook\_DRM">takes a jab, along with other critics, at Adobe's alleged open-ness</a>."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>ericatcw writes " Barnes &amp; Noble , Sony and other e-book vendors may have the manufacturing muscle , but the brains directing the challenge against Amazon.com 's Kindle eBook Reader is Adobe Systems .
Like Microsoft , Adobe has built a formidable ecosystem of partners to whom it supplies software such as its encryption/DRM-creating Adobe Content Server .
Adobe paints Amazon as being like Apple : secretive and playing badly with others .
Amazon argues it just ai n't so , and takes a jab , along with other critics , at Adobe 's alleged open-ness .
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<sentencetext>ericatcw writes "Barnes &amp; Noble, Sony and other e-book vendors may have the manufacturing muscle, but the brains directing the challenge against Amazon.com's Kindle eBook Reader is Adobe Systems.
Like Microsoft, Adobe has built a formidable ecosystem of partners to whom it supplies software such as its encryption/DRM-creating Adobe Content Server.
Adobe paints Amazon as being like Apple: secretive and playing badly with others.
Amazon argues it just ain't so, and takes a jab, along with other critics, at Adobe's alleged open-ness.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30379650</id>
	<title>Re: Wait</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259611620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>first, it's not easier on the eyes, or lighter than a $5 paperback. second, how many people need 1500 books on hand? the vast majority of people actually read (cover-cover) one single book at a time. if it's reference material you want, it's easier and more current to google for the info, and you can do that from your smartphone that you are carrying anyway and the information will be more up to date.</htmltext>
<tokenext>first , it 's not easier on the eyes , or lighter than a $ 5 paperback .
second , how many people need 1500 books on hand ?
the vast majority of people actually read ( cover-cover ) one single book at a time .
if it 's reference material you want , it 's easier and more current to google for the info , and you can do that from your smartphone that you are carrying anyway and the information will be more up to date .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>first, it's not easier on the eyes, or lighter than a $5 paperback.
second, how many people need 1500 books on hand?
the vast majority of people actually read (cover-cover) one single book at a time.
if it's reference material you want, it's easier and more current to google for the info, and you can do that from your smartphone that you are carrying anyway and the information will be more up to date.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30379210</id>
	<title>War of the useless DRM, eh?</title>
	<author>Mathinker</author>
	<datestamp>1259609160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>DRM for text is silly. </p><ol> <li>The analog hole is really large for text.</li><li>There will always be a way to download the files from the net, assuming that the laws don't become insanely draconian.</li><li>The small size of the files makes hiding them with steganography easy, and therefore makes prosecution harder.</li></ol><p>I <i>might</i> believe it if we were talking about text with a lot of extra goodies like hyperlinks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>DRM for text is silly .
The analog hole is really large for text.There will always be a way to download the files from the net , assuming that the laws do n't become insanely draconian.The small size of the files makes hiding them with steganography easy , and therefore makes prosecution harder.I might believe it if we were talking about text with a lot of extra goodies like hyperlinks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>DRM for text is silly.
The analog hole is really large for text.There will always be a way to download the files from the net, assuming that the laws don't become insanely draconian.The small size of the files makes hiding them with steganography easy, and therefore makes prosecution harder.I might believe it if we were talking about text with a lot of extra goodies like hyperlinks.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30385308</id>
	<title>Re:How so ?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259607060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Openness.</p><p>so Microsoft has an open ecosystem unlike apple and Adobe wants to have an open ecosystem for eReaders unlike Amazon. That's what I got out of it</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Openness.so Microsoft has an open ecosystem unlike apple and Adobe wants to have an open ecosystem for eReaders unlike Amazon .
That 's what I got out of it</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Openness.so Microsoft has an open ecosystem unlike apple and Adobe wants to have an open ecosystem for eReaders unlike Amazon.
That's what I got out of it</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30379174</id>
	<title>Amazon sucks...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259608980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I used to work there in Kindle tech support, fired without cause as part of a witch hunt on a security breach. <br> I dont care how well the Kindle is doing, I wouldn't use one again if they gave it for free.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I used to work there in Kindle tech support , fired without cause as part of a witch hunt on a security breach .
I dont care how well the Kindle is doing , I would n't use one again if they gave it for free .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I used to work there in Kindle tech support, fired without cause as part of a witch hunt on a security breach.
I dont care how well the Kindle is doing, I wouldn't use one again if they gave it for free.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30379550</id>
	<title>Re:Drm feh</title>
	<author>shutdown -p now</author>
	<datestamp>1259611140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>What's wrong with postscript?  It was made to deal with text...</p></div><p>It was made to deal with preformatted and layed out text. It's not reflowable.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What 's wrong with postscript ?
It was made to deal with text...It was made to deal with preformatted and layed out text .
It 's not reflowable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What's wrong with postscript?
It was made to deal with text...It was made to deal with preformatted and layed out text.
It's not reflowable.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30379404</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30379330</id>
	<title>Got to Side with Amazon on this one</title>
	<author>BlueBoxSW.com</author>
	<datestamp>1259609820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So Amazon thinks through a problem and designs an elegant solution, takes care of the software, hardware, and marketing.</p><p>Adobe just wants to inject their proprietary technology into a process and sit back and enjoy the royalties.</p><p>Screw Adobe. They don't even do any coding here in the US anymore.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So Amazon thinks through a problem and designs an elegant solution , takes care of the software , hardware , and marketing.Adobe just wants to inject their proprietary technology into a process and sit back and enjoy the royalties.Screw Adobe .
They do n't even do any coding here in the US anymore .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So Amazon thinks through a problem and designs an elegant solution, takes care of the software, hardware, and marketing.Adobe just wants to inject their proprietary technology into a process and sit back and enjoy the royalties.Screw Adobe.
They don't even do any coding here in the US anymore.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30380776</id>
	<title>Re:Amazon sucks...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259575080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I actually took it up with my lawyer and had him review what happened. Unfortunately, they have a standard at-will clause in their employment contracts which says they can fire you if your socks dont match so even though I didnt do anything wrong and I can prove it, they still fired me because they could.<br> <br>If you really want a summary of what happened...<br>1)someone posted an annoucement on twitter and facebook. No announcement on the main site. <br>2)I told a few customers that it was a rumor. Come on, its facebook. We had not received any internal announcement about it.<br>3)The next day we get an internal announcment saying its official. I retracted my statement.<br>4)By the end of that day I was on suspension and fired 3 days later.<br> <br>Two possibilities. Either the Facebook announcement was legit (in which case I'm clean because there was already an official public statement, at most its a bad customer being lied to, of course without telling us it was coming there isnt much else we could do) or it was a leak (in which case I'm clean both because I had no restricted information about it to begin with, and denied it secondly). Its hard to break a confidentiality agreement by denying a rumor about which you have no information and which has already been announced in other channels.I suspect the facebook/twitter was a leak but I was more expendable than the developer who made it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I actually took it up with my lawyer and had him review what happened .
Unfortunately , they have a standard at-will clause in their employment contracts which says they can fire you if your socks dont match so even though I didnt do anything wrong and I can prove it , they still fired me because they could .
If you really want a summary of what happened...1 ) someone posted an annoucement on twitter and facebook .
No announcement on the main site .
2 ) I told a few customers that it was a rumor .
Come on , its facebook .
We had not received any internal announcement about it.3 ) The next day we get an internal announcment saying its official .
I retracted my statement.4 ) By the end of that day I was on suspension and fired 3 days later .
Two possibilities .
Either the Facebook announcement was legit ( in which case I 'm clean because there was already an official public statement , at most its a bad customer being lied to , of course without telling us it was coming there isnt much else we could do ) or it was a leak ( in which case I 'm clean both because I had no restricted information about it to begin with , and denied it secondly ) .
Its hard to break a confidentiality agreement by denying a rumor about which you have no information and which has already been announced in other channels.I suspect the facebook/twitter was a leak but I was more expendable than the developer who made it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I actually took it up with my lawyer and had him review what happened.
Unfortunately, they have a standard at-will clause in their employment contracts which says they can fire you if your socks dont match so even though I didnt do anything wrong and I can prove it, they still fired me because they could.
If you really want a summary of what happened...1)someone posted an annoucement on twitter and facebook.
No announcement on the main site.
2)I told a few customers that it was a rumor.
Come on, its facebook.
We had not received any internal announcement about it.3)The next day we get an internal announcment saying its official.
I retracted my statement.4)By the end of that day I was on suspension and fired 3 days later.
Two possibilities.
Either the Facebook announcement was legit (in which case I'm clean because there was already an official public statement, at most its a bad customer being lied to, of course without telling us it was coming there isnt much else we could do) or it was a leak (in which case I'm clean both because I had no restricted information about it to begin with, and denied it secondly).
Its hard to break a confidentiality agreement by denying a rumor about which you have no information and which has already been announced in other channels.I suspect the facebook/twitter was a leak but I was more expendable than the developer who made it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30380112</id>
	<title>Re: Wait</title>
	<author>harlows\_monkeys</author>
	<datestamp>1259614620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>There certainly won't be a market until the prices of the readers come down. $300? You gotta be crazy.</p></div><p>For a heavy reader, buying a couple new books a month in e-book format instead of hardback can save $300 in a year or two.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>There certainly wo n't be a market until the prices of the readers come down .
$ 300 ? You got ta be crazy.For a heavy reader , buying a couple new books a month in e-book format instead of hardback can save $ 300 in a year or two .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There certainly won't be a market until the prices of the readers come down.
$300? You gotta be crazy.For a heavy reader, buying a couple new books a month in e-book format instead of hardback can save $300 in a year or two.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30379106</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30379106</id>
	<title>Re: Wait</title>
	<author>someyob</author>
	<datestamp>1259608560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>There certainly won't be a market until the prices of the readers come down.  $300?  You gotta be crazy.  Even at $50 they would in any case likely never entice me completely away from the real thing.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There certainly wo n't be a market until the prices of the readers come down .
$ 300 ? You got ta be crazy .
Even at $ 50 they would in any case likely never entice me completely away from the real thing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There certainly won't be a market until the prices of the readers come down.
$300?  You gotta be crazy.
Even at $50 they would in any case likely never entice me completely away from the real thing.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30379582</id>
	<title>Re:How so ?</title>
	<author>gardel999</author>
	<datestamp>1259611260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's Slashdot, silly.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's Slashdot , silly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's Slashdot, silly.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30379388</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30379964</id>
	<title>Re: Wait</title>
	<author>gander666</author>
	<datestamp>1259613600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I travel.  A lot.  I am gone, out of the country, in places where I can't get english language books.  I used to hit the used book store before a 3 week trip, and buy 10-12 books to read and discard.

Now I use my Sony e-Reader, and my luggage is MUCH lighter and more portable.  And if I find that I am not enjoying a book, I don't feel that I wasted space and time lugging it on a trip.  I can just move onto something more enjoyable.

e-Readers have greatly improved my life, and I can't imaging living without mine...</htmltext>
<tokenext>I travel .
A lot .
I am gone , out of the country , in places where I ca n't get english language books .
I used to hit the used book store before a 3 week trip , and buy 10-12 books to read and discard .
Now I use my Sony e-Reader , and my luggage is MUCH lighter and more portable .
And if I find that I am not enjoying a book , I do n't feel that I wasted space and time lugging it on a trip .
I can just move onto something more enjoyable .
e-Readers have greatly improved my life , and I ca n't imaging living without mine.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I travel.
A lot.
I am gone, out of the country, in places where I can't get english language books.
I used to hit the used book store before a 3 week trip, and buy 10-12 books to read and discard.
Now I use my Sony e-Reader, and my luggage is MUCH lighter and more portable.
And if I find that I am not enjoying a book, I don't feel that I wasted space and time lugging it on a trip.
I can just move onto something more enjoyable.
e-Readers have greatly improved my life, and I can't imaging living without mine...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30379650</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30379064</id>
	<title>Wait...</title>
	<author>Kenja</author>
	<datestamp>1259608320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>There's an e-book market?</htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's an e-book market ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's an e-book market?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30379404</id>
	<title>Drm feh</title>
	<author>jack2000</author>
	<datestamp>1259610300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What's wrong with postscript? It was <strong>made</strong> to deal with text...</htmltext>
<tokenext>What 's wrong with postscript ?
It was made to deal with text.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What's wrong with postscript?
It was made to deal with text...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30379494</id>
	<title>Re: Wait</title>
	<author>shutdown -p now</author>
	<datestamp>1259610780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And it's more like $250 now, really. The prices <em>are</em> going down, slowly but surely (it used to be $350 for then-new eInk readers ~2 years ago).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And it 's more like $ 250 now , really .
The prices are going down , slowly but surely ( it used to be $ 350 for then-new eInk readers ~ 2 years ago ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And it's more like $250 now, really.
The prices are going down, slowly but surely (it used to be $350 for then-new eInk readers ~2 years ago).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30379222</id>
	<title>Adobe</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259609160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If Adobe manages to do as well of a job with this latest enterprise as they've done with Flash CS4, then Amazon should be handed the entire market on a platter.  Flash CS4 is the single most painful, unresponsive program I've ever had the displeasure of using, and I'm shocked how the same engineers that can produce a program as high-quality as Photoshop can't manage to catch repetitive 10-20 second UI freezes in Flash during testing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If Adobe manages to do as well of a job with this latest enterprise as they 've done with Flash CS4 , then Amazon should be handed the entire market on a platter .
Flash CS4 is the single most painful , unresponsive program I 've ever had the displeasure of using , and I 'm shocked how the same engineers that can produce a program as high-quality as Photoshop ca n't manage to catch repetitive 10-20 second UI freezes in Flash during testing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If Adobe manages to do as well of a job with this latest enterprise as they've done with Flash CS4, then Amazon should be handed the entire market on a platter.
Flash CS4 is the single most painful, unresponsive program I've ever had the displeasure of using, and I'm shocked how the same engineers that can produce a program as high-quality as Photoshop can't manage to catch repetitive 10-20 second UI freezes in Flash during testing.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30379298</id>
	<title>Re: Wait</title>
	<author>natehoy</author>
	<datestamp>1259609640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>While I agree with you, I think you're confusing the terms "market" and "desire on your own personal part".</p><p>Amazon has, several times, run out of stock on the Kindle in its various incarnations.  Barnes and Noble's Nook is currently on backorder until mid-January.  Both of these facts point to a good market for e-book readers.</p><p>However, like you, I don't see enough benefit from them.  Yes, the form factor would be nice, but spending $250-$300 for the right to repurchase my library in a new format and cut me off from my primary book supply (library sales and used book sales)?  Uhhhhh... no.  Just no.</p><p>That doesn't mean there isn't a market for them, just that you and I are not part of it until:</p><p>1.  Prices come down.<br>2.  They come up with some way to resell books and/or transfer licenses legally for "loaning" and resale.<br>3.  I can buy books from multiple sources and have them all work on one reader.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>While I agree with you , I think you 're confusing the terms " market " and " desire on your own personal part " .Amazon has , several times , run out of stock on the Kindle in its various incarnations .
Barnes and Noble 's Nook is currently on backorder until mid-January .
Both of these facts point to a good market for e-book readers.However , like you , I do n't see enough benefit from them .
Yes , the form factor would be nice , but spending $ 250- $ 300 for the right to repurchase my library in a new format and cut me off from my primary book supply ( library sales and used book sales ) ?
Uhhhhh... no .
Just no.That does n't mean there is n't a market for them , just that you and I are not part of it until : 1 .
Prices come down.2 .
They come up with some way to resell books and/or transfer licenses legally for " loaning " and resale.3 .
I can buy books from multiple sources and have them all work on one reader .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While I agree with you, I think you're confusing the terms "market" and "desire on your own personal part".Amazon has, several times, run out of stock on the Kindle in its various incarnations.
Barnes and Noble's Nook is currently on backorder until mid-January.
Both of these facts point to a good market for e-book readers.However, like you, I don't see enough benefit from them.
Yes, the form factor would be nice, but spending $250-$300 for the right to repurchase my library in a new format and cut me off from my primary book supply (library sales and used book sales)?
Uhhhhh... no.
Just no.That doesn't mean there isn't a market for them, just that you and I are not part of it until:1.
Prices come down.2.
They come up with some way to resell books and/or transfer licenses legally for "loaning" and resale.3.
I can buy books from multiple sources and have them all work on one reader.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30379474</id>
	<title>Re:Wait...</title>
	<author>shutdown -p now</author>
	<datestamp>1259610660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>There's an e-book market?</p></div><p>There is, though perhaps not where you live (U.S.?). I buy non-DRM'd books for $1-2 each, usually 1-2 each week (now going through the back catalog), and read them on my PRS-505.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's an e-book market ? There is , though perhaps not where you live ( U.S. ? ) .
I buy non-DRM 'd books for $ 1-2 each , usually 1-2 each week ( now going through the back catalog ) , and read them on my PRS-505 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's an e-book market?There is, though perhaps not where you live (U.S.?).
I buy non-DRM'd books for $1-2 each, usually 1-2 each week (now going through the back catalog), and read them on my PRS-505.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30379064</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30379352</id>
	<title>Re: Wait</title>
	<author>cptdondo</author>
	<datestamp>1259610000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When I can stick a reader in my back pocket, toss it on the table, leave it out on the deck overnight and have it get soaked in dew, I'll buy one.</p><p>Until then it's an expensive toy.</p><p>It stores more than a book, but it's expensive and fragile and big.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When I can stick a reader in my back pocket , toss it on the table , leave it out on the deck overnight and have it get soaked in dew , I 'll buy one.Until then it 's an expensive toy.It stores more than a book , but it 's expensive and fragile and big .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I can stick a reader in my back pocket, toss it on the table, leave it out on the deck overnight and have it get soaked in dew, I'll buy one.Until then it's an expensive toy.It stores more than a book, but it's expensive and fragile and big.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30379176</id>
	<title>Re: Wait</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259608980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>$300 for a device that's easier on the eyes than an LCD screen, and can store 1500 books?  I think that's a perfectly reasonable price for what you get.</htmltext>
<tokenext>$ 300 for a device that 's easier on the eyes than an LCD screen , and can store 1500 books ?
I think that 's a perfectly reasonable price for what you get .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>$300 for a device that's easier on the eyes than an LCD screen, and can store 1500 books?
I think that's a perfectly reasonable price for what you get.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30379264</id>
	<title>Re: Wait</title>
	<author>rwa2</author>
	<datestamp>1259609400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Meh, $300 isn't bad considering you get free wireless web browsing with the unit.  If someone made one in color with a GPS and offered that kind of data plan, I might actually consider ditching my mobile phone company's wap browsing service.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Meh , $ 300 is n't bad considering you get free wireless web browsing with the unit .
If someone made one in color with a GPS and offered that kind of data plan , I might actually consider ditching my mobile phone company 's wap browsing service .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Meh, $300 isn't bad considering you get free wireless web browsing with the unit.
If someone made one in color with a GPS and offered that kind of data plan, I might actually consider ditching my mobile phone company's wap browsing service.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30379368</id>
	<title>Poor Adobe...</title>
	<author>Skuld-Chan</author>
	<datestamp>1259610060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No-one will ever let them play in the same playground. Maybe it has something to do with their j2ee'esq server apps (anyone who has ever configured them knows what I'm talking about) or the fact that their server software is REALLY expensive compared to what Amazon already rolled.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No-one will ever let them play in the same playground .
Maybe it has something to do with their j2ee'esq server apps ( anyone who has ever configured them knows what I 'm talking about ) or the fact that their server software is REALLY expensive compared to what Amazon already rolled .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No-one will ever let them play in the same playground.
Maybe it has something to do with their j2ee'esq server apps (anyone who has ever configured them knows what I'm talking about) or the fact that their server software is REALLY expensive compared to what Amazon already rolled.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30379390</id>
	<title>Adobe vs Apple</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259610120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Adobe paints Amazon as being like Apple: secretive and playing badly with others.</p></div> </blockquote><p>Oh yeah, because Adobe Flash sure plays nice on Mac OS X.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/sarcasm</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Adobe paints Amazon as being like Apple : secretive and playing badly with others .
Oh yeah , because Adobe Flash sure plays nice on Mac OS X .
/sarcasm</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Adobe paints Amazon as being like Apple: secretive and playing badly with others.
Oh yeah, because Adobe Flash sure plays nice on Mac OS X.
/sarcasm
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30380586</id>
	<title>Re:Got to Side with Amazon on this one</title>
	<author>openfrog</author>
	<datestamp>1259574240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There seems to be an alternative definition of 'openness' in the corporate environment, in view of Amazon trying to defend from Adobe's accusation of 'not playing with others':</p><p>Openness: acting in concert with other vendors to screw consumers</p><p>According to this definition, Adobe is comparing itself with Microsoft who, indeed, plays quite well with others...</p><p>Fascinating...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There seems to be an alternative definition of 'openness ' in the corporate environment , in view of Amazon trying to defend from Adobe 's accusation of 'not playing with others ' : Openness : acting in concert with other vendors to screw consumersAccording to this definition , Adobe is comparing itself with Microsoft who , indeed , plays quite well with others...Fascinating.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There seems to be an alternative definition of 'openness' in the corporate environment, in view of Amazon trying to defend from Adobe's accusation of 'not playing with others':Openness: acting in concert with other vendors to screw consumersAccording to this definition, Adobe is comparing itself with Microsoft who, indeed, plays quite well with others...Fascinating...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30379984</id>
	<title>Re:How so ?</title>
	<author>spatley</author>
	<datestamp>1259613780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>no kidding, that headline is retarded and misleading, even for<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/.</htmltext>
<tokenext>no kidding , that headline is retarded and misleading , even for / .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>no kidding, that headline is retarded and misleading, even for /.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30382906</id>
	<title>Re: Wait</title>
	<author>Dare nMc</author>
	<datestamp>1259585280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>E-book needs are not all the great for everyone for sure, but their practicality is also unmatched by any other one device.<br>Do you know of a device that lasts days on a charge gives you access to that web content on the move, and will cost me a total of less than $400 (figure a dozen paid books, a hundred free ones) for a couple years, to acquire and use consistently.<br>Also these readers do let you put notes into the works also.  I know I had a link to a site that gave me the design I wanted for my concrete block wall, rafters, etc... Now gone from the web.<br>For programming books, sure web is good.  But I sure wish I had all of my old college books, and notes with me many times.  So many specialized little references to business law, chemistry, and a few other little gems that would be very handy to have without trying to find the right search terms.<br>Even just Professional-Reference codebooks, anyone fact can be looked up on the web but I don't always have web, and they just aren't bundled together enough to make a convenient local copy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>E-book needs are not all the great for everyone for sure , but their practicality is also unmatched by any other one device.Do you know of a device that lasts days on a charge gives you access to that web content on the move , and will cost me a total of less than $ 400 ( figure a dozen paid books , a hundred free ones ) for a couple years , to acquire and use consistently.Also these readers do let you put notes into the works also .
I know I had a link to a site that gave me the design I wanted for my concrete block wall , rafters , etc... Now gone from the web.For programming books , sure web is good .
But I sure wish I had all of my old college books , and notes with me many times .
So many specialized little references to business law , chemistry , and a few other little gems that would be very handy to have without trying to find the right search terms.Even just Professional-Reference codebooks , anyone fact can be looked up on the web but I do n't always have web , and they just are n't bundled together enough to make a convenient local copy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>E-book needs are not all the great for everyone for sure, but their practicality is also unmatched by any other one device.Do you know of a device that lasts days on a charge gives you access to that web content on the move, and will cost me a total of less than $400 (figure a dozen paid books, a hundred free ones) for a couple years, to acquire and use consistently.Also these readers do let you put notes into the works also.
I know I had a link to a site that gave me the design I wanted for my concrete block wall, rafters, etc... Now gone from the web.For programming books, sure web is good.
But I sure wish I had all of my old college books, and notes with me many times.
So many specialized little references to business law, chemistry, and a few other little gems that would be very handy to have without trying to find the right search terms.Even just Professional-Reference codebooks, anyone fact can be looked up on the web but I don't always have web, and they just aren't bundled together enough to make a convenient local copy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30380842</id>
	<title>Re:Its about the content, and the price</title>
	<author>Ephemeriis</author>
	<datestamp>1259575440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>B&amp;N doesn't have an ereader store (or an ereader that will ship before the biggest consumer day in the western world - nice job, guys).</p></div><p>Barnes &amp; Noble has been <a href="http://www.barnesandnoble.com/ebooks/index.asp" title="barnesandnoble.com">selling ebooks on their site for quite some time now</a> [barnesandnoble.com].  Further, most of their normal books have an indicator right on the page when they are available in ebook format.</p><p>Their <a href="http://www.barnesandnoble.com/ebooks/download-reader.asp" title="barnesandnoble.com">ereader is available for download</a> [barnesandnoble.com] on the iPhone/iPod Touch, Blackberry, PC, and Mac - and has been for a while.</p><p>The nook's first shipments have already gone out.  Several of those shipments will be on doorsteps well before Christmas.  There was plenty of opportunity, if you had already made up your mind, to purchase one in time for Christmas.  Granted, they're now back-ordered...  If you buy one today it won't ship until January 15th...  But what do you expect with a brand new electronic device launching just in time for Christmas?  It isn't like this is the first time a hot new Christmas gift has been hard to get.  Either plan ahead, or deal with the delay.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>B&amp;N does n't have an ereader store ( or an ereader that will ship before the biggest consumer day in the western world - nice job , guys ) .Barnes &amp; Noble has been selling ebooks on their site for quite some time now [ barnesandnoble.com ] .
Further , most of their normal books have an indicator right on the page when they are available in ebook format.Their ereader is available for download [ barnesandnoble.com ] on the iPhone/iPod Touch , Blackberry , PC , and Mac - and has been for a while.The nook 's first shipments have already gone out .
Several of those shipments will be on doorsteps well before Christmas .
There was plenty of opportunity , if you had already made up your mind , to purchase one in time for Christmas .
Granted , they 're now back-ordered... If you buy one today it wo n't ship until January 15th... But what do you expect with a brand new electronic device launching just in time for Christmas ?
It is n't like this is the first time a hot new Christmas gift has been hard to get .
Either plan ahead , or deal with the delay .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>B&amp;N doesn't have an ereader store (or an ereader that will ship before the biggest consumer day in the western world - nice job, guys).Barnes &amp; Noble has been selling ebooks on their site for quite some time now [barnesandnoble.com].
Further, most of their normal books have an indicator right on the page when they are available in ebook format.Their ereader is available for download [barnesandnoble.com] on the iPhone/iPod Touch, Blackberry, PC, and Mac - and has been for a while.The nook's first shipments have already gone out.
Several of those shipments will be on doorsteps well before Christmas.
There was plenty of opportunity, if you had already made up your mind, to purchase one in time for Christmas.
Granted, they're now back-ordered...  If you buy one today it won't ship until January 15th...  But what do you expect with a brand new electronic device launching just in time for Christmas?
It isn't like this is the first time a hot new Christmas gift has been hard to get.
Either plan ahead, or deal with the delay.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30383028</id>
	<title>Re: Wait</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259586060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How much would you pay for book shelves?  Can you put the shelves in your pocket?  How much do you pay per square foot for the space for your shelves and the space around them?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How much would you pay for book shelves ?
Can you put the shelves in your pocket ?
How much do you pay per square foot for the space for your shelves and the space around them ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How much would you pay for book shelves?
Can you put the shelves in your pocket?
How much do you pay per square foot for the space for your shelves and the space around them?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30380352</id>
	<title>Adobe winning will kill off DRM free e-books</title>
	<author>Mr\_Silver</author>
	<datestamp>1259573040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you want a future where e-books are DRM free then you need to hope that the same thing happens with e-books as it did with music.</p><p>That is, one company having the majority of the market, not licencing their DRM solution and publishers having to resort to DRM free products if they want to sell outside of the walled garden.</p><p>Since Adobe will licence their technology to anyone who wants it, there is no incentive for the publishers to give up on DRM. Which, for e-books at least, means it'll be here to stay for a while...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you want a future where e-books are DRM free then you need to hope that the same thing happens with e-books as it did with music.That is , one company having the majority of the market , not licencing their DRM solution and publishers having to resort to DRM free products if they want to sell outside of the walled garden.Since Adobe will licence their technology to anyone who wants it , there is no incentive for the publishers to give up on DRM .
Which , for e-books at least , means it 'll be here to stay for a while.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you want a future where e-books are DRM free then you need to hope that the same thing happens with e-books as it did with music.That is, one company having the majority of the market, not licencing their DRM solution and publishers having to resort to DRM free products if they want to sell outside of the walled garden.Since Adobe will licence their technology to anyone who wants it, there is no incentive for the publishers to give up on DRM.
Which, for e-books at least, means it'll be here to stay for a while...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30379462</id>
	<title>Re:Adobe</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259610660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Flash CS4 is the single most painful, unresponsive program I've ever had the displeasure of using</p></div><p>Flash movies are the single most painful, unresponsive programs I've ever had the displeasure of using and whoever creates them deserves to be punished.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Flash CS4 is the single most painful , unresponsive program I 've ever had the displeasure of usingFlash movies are the single most painful , unresponsive programs I 've ever had the displeasure of using and whoever creates them deserves to be punished .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Flash CS4 is the single most painful, unresponsive program I've ever had the displeasure of usingFlash movies are the single most painful, unresponsive programs I've ever had the displeasure of using and whoever creates them deserves to be punished.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30379928</id>
	<title>Re:To be fair...</title>
	<author>PCM2</author>
	<datestamp>1259613480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Adobe just provides a platform; it's up to the producers to decide what protection (if any) to place on the documents.</p></div><p>Sort of true. But if you get in bed with Adobe because it has the best software for rendering professionally produced documents, then decide that you want some form of DRM for those documents, you're sort of stuck. Adobe might say "we have this method of doing DRM," and maybe it isn't exactly what you had in mind, but the reality is it's their way or the highway; you don't really get a vote. So you go along with it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Adobe just provides a platform ; it 's up to the producers to decide what protection ( if any ) to place on the documents.Sort of true .
But if you get in bed with Adobe because it has the best software for rendering professionally produced documents , then decide that you want some form of DRM for those documents , you 're sort of stuck .
Adobe might say " we have this method of doing DRM , " and maybe it is n't exactly what you had in mind , but the reality is it 's their way or the highway ; you do n't really get a vote .
So you go along with it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Adobe just provides a platform; it's up to the producers to decide what protection (if any) to place on the documents.Sort of true.
But if you get in bed with Adobe because it has the best software for rendering professionally produced documents, then decide that you want some form of DRM for those documents, you're sort of stuck.
Adobe might say "we have this method of doing DRM," and maybe it isn't exactly what you had in mind, but the reality is it's their way or the highway; you don't really get a vote.
So you go along with it.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30379234</id>
	<title>Re: Wait</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259609220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>There certainly won't be a market until the prices of automobiles come down. $20000? You gotta be crazy. Even at $3000 they would in any case likely never entice me completely away from horses.</i></p><p>Fixed that for you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There certainly wo n't be a market until the prices of automobiles come down .
$ 20000 ? You got ta be crazy .
Even at $ 3000 they would in any case likely never entice me completely away from horses.Fixed that for you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There certainly won't be a market until the prices of automobiles come down.
$20000? You gotta be crazy.
Even at $3000 they would in any case likely never entice me completely away from horses.Fixed that for you.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30384888</id>
	<title>Re: Wait</title>
	<author>Mex</author>
	<datestamp>1259601480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Kindle is 259 right now. If you read a lot of books, the thing pays for itself just in shipping (specially if you're international).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Kindle is 259 right now .
If you read a lot of books , the thing pays for itself just in shipping ( specially if you 're international ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Kindle is 259 right now.
If you read a lot of books, the thing pays for itself just in shipping (specially if you're international).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30379470</id>
	<title>Re:Being like Apple? Good.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259610660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Apple being "secretive and playing badly with others" is the main reason we have a mostly DRM-free music market these days.</i></p><p>So, Napster, bittorrent, and that ancient protocol that shall not be named, had nothing to do with it? Quite frankly, you are being ridiculous.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apple being " secretive and playing badly with others " is the main reason we have a mostly DRM-free music market these days.So , Napster , bittorrent , and that ancient protocol that shall not be named , had nothing to do with it ?
Quite frankly , you are being ridiculous .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apple being "secretive and playing badly with others" is the main reason we have a mostly DRM-free music market these days.So, Napster, bittorrent, and that ancient protocol that shall not be named, had nothing to do with it?
Quite frankly, you are being ridiculous.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30379388</id>
	<title>How so ?</title>
	<author>Antiocheian</author>
	<datestamp>1259610120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The story title reads: "Adobe Takes On Microsoft Role In E-book Market" yet the only reference I found on Microsoft, on both linked articles, is this:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Though Adobe may balk at the comparison, its role in the e-book market is similar to Microsoft's in the PC market: a builder of a semi-open ecosystem of partners to whom it sells publishing tools.</p></div><p>So, what does Microsoft have to do with both articles really ?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The story title reads : " Adobe Takes On Microsoft Role In E-book Market " yet the only reference I found on Microsoft , on both linked articles , is this : Though Adobe may balk at the comparison , its role in the e-book market is similar to Microsoft 's in the PC market : a builder of a semi-open ecosystem of partners to whom it sells publishing tools.So , what does Microsoft have to do with both articles really ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The story title reads: "Adobe Takes On Microsoft Role In E-book Market" yet the only reference I found on Microsoft, on both linked articles, is this:Though Adobe may balk at the comparison, its role in the e-book market is similar to Microsoft's in the PC market: a builder of a semi-open ecosystem of partners to whom it sells publishing tools.So, what does Microsoft have to do with both articles really ?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30379424</id>
	<title>yes but only idiots pay amazon and kindle prices</title>
	<author>CHRONOSS2008</author>
	<datestamp>1259610420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>i have downloaded 100000 novels and have about 100GB of ebooks in pdf form and guess what they had encryption schema on them some and NOW THEY DON'T<br>howd that happen<br>them mystical computer gremlins removed it<br>WOOT</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>i have downloaded 100000 novels and have about 100GB of ebooks in pdf form and guess what they had encryption schema on them some and NOW THEY DON'Thowd that happenthem mystical computer gremlins removed itWOOT</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i have downloaded 100000 novels and have about 100GB of ebooks in pdf form and guess what they had encryption schema on them some and NOW THEY DON'Thowd that happenthem mystical computer gremlins removed itWOOT</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30379848</id>
	<title>at 400</title>
	<author>nurb432</author>
	<datestamp>1259612880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Amazon has sold bunches, so while it may not be YOUR market at these prices, there is one.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Amazon has sold bunches , so while it may not be YOUR market at these prices , there is one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Amazon has sold bunches, so while it may not be YOUR market at these prices, there is one.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30379788</id>
	<title>Re:Its about the content, and the price</title>
	<author>gabereiser</author>
	<datestamp>1259612580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>or at least until the rumored Apple Tablet debuts (if ever, I'm still not holding my breath).  Some say they are trying to turn it into an e-reader style tablet for publishers.  My take is if I want a versatile ebook reader, I'll just buy a netbook for the same price as a kindle.  Up yours Adobe and Amazon!</htmltext>
<tokenext>or at least until the rumored Apple Tablet debuts ( if ever , I 'm still not holding my breath ) .
Some say they are trying to turn it into an e-reader style tablet for publishers .
My take is if I want a versatile ebook reader , I 'll just buy a netbook for the same price as a kindle .
Up yours Adobe and Amazon !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>or at least until the rumored Apple Tablet debuts (if ever, I'm still not holding my breath).
Some say they are trying to turn it into an e-reader style tablet for publishers.
My take is if I want a versatile ebook reader, I'll just buy a netbook for the same price as a kindle.
Up yours Adobe and Amazon!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30379082</id>
	<title>To be fair...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259608440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Adobe just provides a platform; it's up to the producers to decide what protection (if any) to place on the documents.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Adobe just provides a platform ; it 's up to the producers to decide what protection ( if any ) to place on the documents .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Adobe just provides a platform; it's up to the producers to decide what protection (if any) to place on the documents.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30384194</id>
	<title>Re: Wait</title>
	<author>daisybelle</author>
	<datestamp>1259594220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>the vast majority of people actually read (cover-cover) one single book at a time</p></div><p>I call BS on this one! 1. Breakfast/lunchtime book. 2. night-time book. 3. lounge-room book. 4. book (normally 1-3) i started reading but got vaguely bored of but haven't given up on completely. 4. academic papers/books that are on the go (normally around 3-10).

</p><p>I might read a single book cover-to-cover with an especially good book sometimes, but since I listen to audiobooks too, and since I'd probably be in the middle of several others anyway, this is pretty rare.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>the vast majority of people actually read ( cover-cover ) one single book at a timeI call BS on this one !
1. Breakfast/lunchtime book .
2. night-time book .
3. lounge-room book .
4. book ( normally 1-3 ) i started reading but got vaguely bored of but have n't given up on completely .
4. academic papers/books that are on the go ( normally around 3-10 ) .
I might read a single book cover-to-cover with an especially good book sometimes , but since I listen to audiobooks too , and since I 'd probably be in the middle of several others anyway , this is pretty rare .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the vast majority of people actually read (cover-cover) one single book at a timeI call BS on this one!
1. Breakfast/lunchtime book.
2. night-time book.
3. lounge-room book.
4. book (normally 1-3) i started reading but got vaguely bored of but haven't given up on completely.
4. academic papers/books that are on the go (normally around 3-10).
I might read a single book cover-to-cover with an especially good book sometimes, but since I listen to audiobooks too, and since I'd probably be in the middle of several others anyway, this is pretty rare.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30379358</id>
	<title>Being like Apple?  Good.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259610000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Apple being "secretive and playing badly with others" is the main reason we have a mostly DRM-free music market these days.<br>We can only hope that Amazon will be so helpfully and successfully obstinate.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apple being " secretive and playing badly with others " is the main reason we have a mostly DRM-free music market these days.We can only hope that Amazon will be so helpfully and successfully obstinate .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apple being "secretive and playing badly with others" is the main reason we have a mostly DRM-free music market these days.We can only hope that Amazon will be so helpfully and successfully obstinate.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30379256</id>
	<title>Re: Wait</title>
	<author>rocket97</author>
	<datestamp>1259609340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>There certainly won't be a market until the prices of the readers come down.  $300?  You gotta be crazy.  Even at $50 they would in any case likely never entice me completely away from the real thing.</p></div><p>Think of it as the MP3 player of the book world.  I am sure the same thing was said when the first MP3 players came out.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>There certainly wo n't be a market until the prices of the readers come down .
$ 300 ? You got ta be crazy .
Even at $ 50 they would in any case likely never entice me completely away from the real thing.Think of it as the MP3 player of the book world .
I am sure the same thing was said when the first MP3 players came out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There certainly won't be a market until the prices of the readers come down.
$300?  You gotta be crazy.
Even at $50 they would in any case likely never entice me completely away from the real thing.Think of it as the MP3 player of the book world.
I am sure the same thing was said when the first MP3 players came out.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30379994</id>
	<title>Re: Wait</title>
	<author>Narpak</author>
	<datestamp>1259613780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>$300 for a device that's easier on the eyes than an LCD screen, and can store 1500 books? I think that's a perfectly reasonable price for what you get.</p></div><p>Personally I wouldn't pay $300 for the current available models, they are (in my opinion) not good enough; but I have no doubt that a few years down the line the quality of the readers will be such that I would have no doubt paying $300 or more; maybe even a lot more. For now I am content waiting for the technology and services to improve to what I would consider an acceptable level. I still remember my first mp3 player, and my first mobile phone; large, chunky, heavy, low battery time, poor UI, and generally stone age tools compared to their current equivalent. But while my player and phone provided functions I felt a genuine need for, an e-reader would have to be fairly good to get me away from books on paper. But as I said, only a matter of time; and I whole heartily support companies creating new readers to compete with what is available to date. <br> <br>My greatest concern so far is the restrictions and regulations hindering the development of a proper online service for buying, accessing, and sorting through the e-books you have purchased. Personally I would love to see something as user friendly as Steam for buying and downloading your books, or subscribing to regular releases like magazines or comics. But as far as I know the various distribution deals, not to mention various nations regulation, makes the creation of this type of service, particularly for the European market, a pain in the nutsack.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>$ 300 for a device that 's easier on the eyes than an LCD screen , and can store 1500 books ?
I think that 's a perfectly reasonable price for what you get.Personally I would n't pay $ 300 for the current available models , they are ( in my opinion ) not good enough ; but I have no doubt that a few years down the line the quality of the readers will be such that I would have no doubt paying $ 300 or more ; maybe even a lot more .
For now I am content waiting for the technology and services to improve to what I would consider an acceptable level .
I still remember my first mp3 player , and my first mobile phone ; large , chunky , heavy , low battery time , poor UI , and generally stone age tools compared to their current equivalent .
But while my player and phone provided functions I felt a genuine need for , an e-reader would have to be fairly good to get me away from books on paper .
But as I said , only a matter of time ; and I whole heartily support companies creating new readers to compete with what is available to date .
My greatest concern so far is the restrictions and regulations hindering the development of a proper online service for buying , accessing , and sorting through the e-books you have purchased .
Personally I would love to see something as user friendly as Steam for buying and downloading your books , or subscribing to regular releases like magazines or comics .
But as far as I know the various distribution deals , not to mention various nations regulation , makes the creation of this type of service , particularly for the European market , a pain in the nutsack .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>$300 for a device that's easier on the eyes than an LCD screen, and can store 1500 books?
I think that's a perfectly reasonable price for what you get.Personally I wouldn't pay $300 for the current available models, they are (in my opinion) not good enough; but I have no doubt that a few years down the line the quality of the readers will be such that I would have no doubt paying $300 or more; maybe even a lot more.
For now I am content waiting for the technology and services to improve to what I would consider an acceptable level.
I still remember my first mp3 player, and my first mobile phone; large, chunky, heavy, low battery time, poor UI, and generally stone age tools compared to their current equivalent.
But while my player and phone provided functions I felt a genuine need for, an e-reader would have to be fairly good to get me away from books on paper.
But as I said, only a matter of time; and I whole heartily support companies creating new readers to compete with what is available to date.
My greatest concern so far is the restrictions and regulations hindering the development of a proper online service for buying, accessing, and sorting through the e-books you have purchased.
Personally I would love to see something as user friendly as Steam for buying and downloading your books, or subscribing to regular releases like magazines or comics.
But as far as I know the various distribution deals, not to mention various nations regulation, makes the creation of this type of service, particularly for the European market, a pain in the nutsack.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30383002</id>
	<title>Re:Adobe vs Apple</title>
	<author>initialE</author>
	<datestamp>1259585880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wait, what? There's a problem with flash on osx? How is it I've never run across it?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wait , what ?
There 's a problem with flash on osx ?
How is it I 've never run across it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wait, what?
There's a problem with flash on osx?
How is it I've never run across it?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30380198</id>
	<title>pssst... the drm is easily breakable</title>
	<author>Dster76</author>
	<datestamp>1259571840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Folks, the Adobe DRM for eBooks is laughably easy to break. Please, guys, keep all this quiet. Adobe DRMed books can be easily turned into non-DRMed ePubs that are reflowable, portable, and in OPEN STANDARDS format. <br>

<br>Please, don't make too much noise that might change my favorite ebook store's (shortcovers) mind about using a DRM format that's easy to break into something nice.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Folks , the Adobe DRM for eBooks is laughably easy to break .
Please , guys , keep all this quiet .
Adobe DRMed books can be easily turned into non-DRMed ePubs that are reflowable , portable , and in OPEN STANDARDS format .
Please , do n't make too much noise that might change my favorite ebook store 's ( shortcovers ) mind about using a DRM format that 's easy to break into something nice .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Folks, the Adobe DRM for eBooks is laughably easy to break.
Please, guys, keep all this quiet.
Adobe DRMed books can be easily turned into non-DRMed ePubs that are reflowable, portable, and in OPEN STANDARDS format.
Please, don't make too much noise that might change my favorite ebook store's (shortcovers) mind about using a DRM format that's easy to break into something nice.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30380824</id>
	<title>Re: Wait</title>
	<author>NitroWolf</author>
	<datestamp>1259575320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>There certainly won't be a market until the prices of the readers come down.  $300?  You gotta be crazy.  Even at $50 they would in any case likely never entice me completely away from the real thing.</p></div><p>You clearly don't travel a lot, especially internationally.</p><p>EBook readers are frigging great.  I have one... while I'm totally unhappy with the quality over all of *EVERY* e-book reader out there, the benefit outweighs the problems, if only marginally.  The fact is, I have a very limited amount of space to carry my things.  On 8 - 14 hour flights, I can easily go through a 700 page book if not two.  There is no way I can carry around 4 700 page books, at a minimum, on each flight along with all my other gear.  MY EBook reader has 120 books on it and it fits in my photo gear bag, which is a mandatory carry on for me.  My photobag might... MIGHT fight 1 700 page book when it's fully loaded.  If I'm halfway through that book and board a 14 hour flight, I'd be screwed.  With the ebook reader, I know I have a bucket load of additional reading material to keep me from getting arrested by the air marshals for beating up idiotic passengers.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>There certainly wo n't be a market until the prices of the readers come down .
$ 300 ? You got ta be crazy .
Even at $ 50 they would in any case likely never entice me completely away from the real thing.You clearly do n't travel a lot , especially internationally.EBook readers are frigging great .
I have one... while I 'm totally unhappy with the quality over all of * EVERY * e-book reader out there , the benefit outweighs the problems , if only marginally .
The fact is , I have a very limited amount of space to carry my things .
On 8 - 14 hour flights , I can easily go through a 700 page book if not two .
There is no way I can carry around 4 700 page books , at a minimum , on each flight along with all my other gear .
MY EBook reader has 120 books on it and it fits in my photo gear bag , which is a mandatory carry on for me .
My photobag might... MIGHT fight 1 700 page book when it 's fully loaded .
If I 'm halfway through that book and board a 14 hour flight , I 'd be screwed .
With the ebook reader , I know I have a bucket load of additional reading material to keep me from getting arrested by the air marshals for beating up idiotic passengers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There certainly won't be a market until the prices of the readers come down.
$300?  You gotta be crazy.
Even at $50 they would in any case likely never entice me completely away from the real thing.You clearly don't travel a lot, especially internationally.EBook readers are frigging great.
I have one... while I'm totally unhappy with the quality over all of *EVERY* e-book reader out there, the benefit outweighs the problems, if only marginally.
The fact is, I have a very limited amount of space to carry my things.
On 8 - 14 hour flights, I can easily go through a 700 page book if not two.
There is no way I can carry around 4 700 page books, at a minimum, on each flight along with all my other gear.
MY EBook reader has 120 books on it and it fits in my photo gear bag, which is a mandatory carry on for me.
My photobag might... MIGHT fight 1 700 page book when it's fully loaded.
If I'm halfway through that book and board a 14 hour flight, I'd be screwed.
With the ebook reader, I know I have a bucket load of additional reading material to keep me from getting arrested by the air marshals for beating up idiotic passengers.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30380050</id>
	<title>How about $90</title>
	<author>argent</author>
	<datestamp>1259614140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How about $90?</p><p>Yeh, it doesn't have the fancy screen, it's a bit like a late '90s PDA with a bigger screen, but I read ebooks on a late '90s PDA with a 160x160 display for several years.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How about $ 90 ? Yeh , it does n't have the fancy screen , it 's a bit like a late '90s PDA with a bigger screen , but I read ebooks on a late '90s PDA with a 160x160 display for several years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about $90?Yeh, it doesn't have the fancy screen, it's a bit like a late '90s PDA with a bigger screen, but I read ebooks on a late '90s PDA with a 160x160 display for several years.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30379562</id>
	<title>Its about the content, and the price</title>
	<author>Overzeetop</author>
	<datestamp>1259611140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Have you seen the prices for Sony Reader books?  My wife wants a reader for Christmas, so she looked up some of the books she bought over the last year, and the ones she plans to buy in the next months or so. Amazon came in at about 2/3 the cost of Sony, and B&amp;N doesn't have an ereader store (or an ereader that will ship before the biggest consumer day in the western world - nice job, guys). Since the readers are comparable in price and features, the Kindle - for all its flaws - wins out for someone who just wants to buy and read books.</p><p>Adobe better figure out a way to make the books on their platform, and the platform itself, cheaper. A lot cheaper. Otherwise they're going to be paired with also-rans to the market/mindshare leader, which is Kindle.  Yeah, I'd say Apple is the right comparison. What's worse (for adobe) is that there really are no mainstream competitors for the iPod in the end-to-end usability pile. That's hard for me to say, since I'm not a fan of iPods, but it is still the truth.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Have you seen the prices for Sony Reader books ?
My wife wants a reader for Christmas , so she looked up some of the books she bought over the last year , and the ones she plans to buy in the next months or so .
Amazon came in at about 2/3 the cost of Sony , and B&amp;N does n't have an ereader store ( or an ereader that will ship before the biggest consumer day in the western world - nice job , guys ) .
Since the readers are comparable in price and features , the Kindle - for all its flaws - wins out for someone who just wants to buy and read books.Adobe better figure out a way to make the books on their platform , and the platform itself , cheaper .
A lot cheaper .
Otherwise they 're going to be paired with also-rans to the market/mindshare leader , which is Kindle .
Yeah , I 'd say Apple is the right comparison .
What 's worse ( for adobe ) is that there really are no mainstream competitors for the iPod in the end-to-end usability pile .
That 's hard for me to say , since I 'm not a fan of iPods , but it is still the truth .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have you seen the prices for Sony Reader books?
My wife wants a reader for Christmas, so she looked up some of the books she bought over the last year, and the ones she plans to buy in the next months or so.
Amazon came in at about 2/3 the cost of Sony, and B&amp;N doesn't have an ereader store (or an ereader that will ship before the biggest consumer day in the western world - nice job, guys).
Since the readers are comparable in price and features, the Kindle - for all its flaws - wins out for someone who just wants to buy and read books.Adobe better figure out a way to make the books on their platform, and the platform itself, cheaper.
A lot cheaper.
Otherwise they're going to be paired with also-rans to the market/mindshare leader, which is Kindle.
Yeah, I'd say Apple is the right comparison.
What's worse (for adobe) is that there really are no mainstream competitors for the iPod in the end-to-end usability pile.
That's hard for me to say, since I'm not a fan of iPods, but it is still the truth.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30395798</id>
	<title>Re: Wait</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1260445560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For you. For me the reasonable price for this (where I would buy one) lies at $20-25. That&rsquo;s right. That&rsquo;s how much a dollar from me is worth to me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For you .
For me the reasonable price for this ( where I would buy one ) lies at $ 20-25 .
That    s right .
That    s how much a dollar from me is worth to me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For you.
For me the reasonable price for this (where I would buy one) lies at $20-25.
That’s right.
That’s how much a dollar from me is worth to me.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30381220</id>
	<title>Re:Its about the content, and the price</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259577000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>If I were you, I'd give your wife a good fisting. She enjoyed it when I fisted her!</htmltext>
<tokenext>If I were you , I 'd give your wife a good fisting .
She enjoyed it when I fisted her !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If I were you, I'd give your wife a good fisting.
She enjoyed it when I fisted her!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30379552</id>
	<title>Re: Wait</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259611140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>No "they|we" didn't.  We already had to purchase expensive equipment to play music with, since CDs and tapes didn't play themselves.  With books all you have to pay for is well, the book.</htmltext>
<tokenext>No " they | we " did n't .
We already had to purchase expensive equipment to play music with , since CDs and tapes did n't play themselves .
With books all you have to pay for is well , the book .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No "they|we" didn't.
We already had to purchase expensive equipment to play music with, since CDs and tapes didn't play themselves.
With books all you have to pay for is well, the book.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30379202</id>
	<title>Re:Wait...</title>
	<author>rwa2</author>
	<datestamp>1259609100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As a long-time Palm PDA + Sunrise + Plucker user, I'm really getting a chuckle out of all this attention e-books are getting lately<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-P</p><p>But I guess it's all about content distribution and control from the publishers... not a game I've really even been fond of playing, especially when it comes to entertainment.  If I have enough of that kind of free time on my hands, I can spend it looking for legitimate free entertainment (or producing my own), thank you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As a long-time Palm PDA + Sunrise + Plucker user , I 'm really getting a chuckle out of all this attention e-books are getting lately : -PBut I guess it 's all about content distribution and control from the publishers... not a game I 've really even been fond of playing , especially when it comes to entertainment .
If I have enough of that kind of free time on my hands , I can spend it looking for legitimate free entertainment ( or producing my own ) , thank you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a long-time Palm PDA + Sunrise + Plucker user, I'm really getting a chuckle out of all this attention e-books are getting lately :-PBut I guess it's all about content distribution and control from the publishers... not a game I've really even been fond of playing, especially when it comes to entertainment.
If I have enough of that kind of free time on my hands, I can spend it looking for legitimate free entertainment (or producing my own), thank you.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30379478</id>
	<title>Re: Wait</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259610660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>A $300 for a device that's easier on the eyes than an LCD screen, and can store 1500 books?</i></p><p>You could build some pretty nice shelves with $300 worth of lumber...<br>But the portability might suffer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A $ 300 for a device that 's easier on the eyes than an LCD screen , and can store 1500 books ? You could build some pretty nice shelves with $ 300 worth of lumber...But the portability might suffer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A $300 for a device that's easier on the eyes than an LCD screen, and can store 1500 books?You could build some pretty nice shelves with $300 worth of lumber...But the portability might suffer.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30379244</id>
	<title>I am sure Amazon is happy being compared to Apple</title>
	<author>iamacat</author>
	<datestamp>1259609280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Umm. Classy, reliable hardware, great user interface and security in exchange for somewhat higher prices. Or cheap devices, crafty software and "interoperability" like Microsoft's PlayForSure? I am sure Amazon would love to be compared to Apple and have Sony/B&amp;N be compared to Dell and Microsoft. I don't think Kindle is up to the sniff yet though. Decent device, still not enough screen contrast and no backlight for occasional night reading, too easy to do unintended things with the buttons.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Umm .
Classy , reliable hardware , great user interface and security in exchange for somewhat higher prices .
Or cheap devices , crafty software and " interoperability " like Microsoft 's PlayForSure ?
I am sure Amazon would love to be compared to Apple and have Sony/B&amp;N be compared to Dell and Microsoft .
I do n't think Kindle is up to the sniff yet though .
Decent device , still not enough screen contrast and no backlight for occasional night reading , too easy to do unintended things with the buttons .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Umm.
Classy, reliable hardware, great user interface and security in exchange for somewhat higher prices.
Or cheap devices, crafty software and "interoperability" like Microsoft's PlayForSure?
I am sure Amazon would love to be compared to Apple and have Sony/B&amp;N be compared to Dell and Microsoft.
I don't think Kindle is up to the sniff yet though.
Decent device, still not enough screen contrast and no backlight for occasional night reading, too easy to do unintended things with the buttons.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30379444</id>
	<title>Re:Amazon sucks...</title>
	<author>CorporateSuit</author>
	<datestamp>1259610540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>fired without cause as part of a witch hunt on a security breach.</p></div><p>Unfortunately, this sentence nullifies your credibility.  This is what sociopaths say when they're fired for everything.  This is what all my ex-con buddies say when they can't hold down a job for more than 6 months.  It's what 16 year olds say when they get fired for doing 10 minutes of work in an hour, because they were too busy texting their friends about the movie on Friday.  This is what unclever people say when they tried to pull something clever, got caught, and refused to believe that someone could see through the cleverness of their crappy plans.<br> <br>
I'm not saying that you fit into these categories, or that you did something wrong.  Rather, I'm saying, you are simply using the same wording that they ALL use, which immediately triggers off "BULLSHIT" alarms in anyone over the age of 18 who doesn't use this line -- so don't bother with ever using it.  Remove that line  and your post carries much greater impact.</p></div>
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<tokenext>fired without cause as part of a witch hunt on a security breach.Unfortunately , this sentence nullifies your credibility .
This is what sociopaths say when they 're fired for everything .
This is what all my ex-con buddies say when they ca n't hold down a job for more than 6 months .
It 's what 16 year olds say when they get fired for doing 10 minutes of work in an hour , because they were too busy texting their friends about the movie on Friday .
This is what unclever people say when they tried to pull something clever , got caught , and refused to believe that someone could see through the cleverness of their crappy plans .
I 'm not saying that you fit into these categories , or that you did something wrong .
Rather , I 'm saying , you are simply using the same wording that they ALL use , which immediately triggers off " BULLSHIT " alarms in anyone over the age of 18 who does n't use this line -- so do n't bother with ever using it .
Remove that line and your post carries much greater impact .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>fired without cause as part of a witch hunt on a security breach.Unfortunately, this sentence nullifies your credibility.
This is what sociopaths say when they're fired for everything.
This is what all my ex-con buddies say when they can't hold down a job for more than 6 months.
It's what 16 year olds say when they get fired for doing 10 minutes of work in an hour, because they were too busy texting their friends about the movie on Friday.
This is what unclever people say when they tried to pull something clever, got caught, and refused to believe that someone could see through the cleverness of their crappy plans.
I'm not saying that you fit into these categories, or that you did something wrong.
Rather, I'm saying, you are simply using the same wording that they ALL use, which immediately triggers off "BULLSHIT" alarms in anyone over the age of 18 who doesn't use this line -- so don't bother with ever using it.
Remove that line  and your post carries much greater impact.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30380216</id>
	<title>Re:Wait...</title>
	<author>Z8</author>
	<datestamp>1259572020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>There's an e-book market?</p></div><p>Yes.  It's difficult to get estimates, but at least several hundred thousand at least have been sold.  <a href="http://blogs.forrester.com/consumer\_product\_strategy/2009/10/ereader-holiday-outlook-forrester-ups-its-projections-by-50.html" title="forrester.com" rel="nofollow">This estimate</a> [forrester.com] puts 2009 sales figures at 3 million units in the U.S. alone.  Anecdotally I would have to agree&mdash;I don't have one but a number of my friends do.

Several hundred thousand readers minimum isn't world shattering, but yes it is a market.</p></div>
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<tokenext>There 's an e-book market ? Yes .
It 's difficult to get estimates , but at least several hundred thousand at least have been sold .
This estimate [ forrester.com ] puts 2009 sales figures at 3 million units in the U.S. alone. Anecdotally I would have to agree    I do n't have one but a number of my friends do .
Several hundred thousand readers minimum is n't world shattering , but yes it is a market .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's an e-book market?Yes.
It's difficult to get estimates, but at least several hundred thousand at least have been sold.
This estimate [forrester.com] puts 2009 sales figures at 3 million units in the U.S. alone.  Anecdotally I would have to agree—I don't have one but a number of my friends do.
Several hundred thousand readers minimum isn't world shattering, but yes it is a market.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_09_188251.30379184</id>
	<title>Adobe makes MS look lean mean and nimble</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1259609040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Adobe generally has the biggest, bloated software of all of them. And they have a phoney upgrade cycle that adds the least value added in the new feature dept compared to everyone. And the stuff they acquire either is aborted or turned to shit. Like dreamweaver and their purchase of that great company that made the kollection toolkits. Only to kill it off.</p><p>I feel like Amazon has been pretty cool, but even if they were Hitler incarnate, Adobe would be Stalin. I wouldn't feel any better with the new boss.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Adobe generally has the biggest , bloated software of all of them .
And they have a phoney upgrade cycle that adds the least value added in the new feature dept compared to everyone .
And the stuff they acquire either is aborted or turned to shit .
Like dreamweaver and their purchase of that great company that made the kollection toolkits .
Only to kill it off.I feel like Amazon has been pretty cool , but even if they were Hitler incarnate , Adobe would be Stalin .
I would n't feel any better with the new boss .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Adobe generally has the biggest, bloated software of all of them.
And they have a phoney upgrade cycle that adds the least value added in the new feature dept compared to everyone.
And the stuff they acquire either is aborted or turned to shit.
Like dreamweaver and their purchase of that great company that made the kollection toolkits.
Only to kill it off.I feel like Amazon has been pretty cool, but even if they were Hitler incarnate, Adobe would be Stalin.
I wouldn't feel any better with the new boss.</sentencetext>
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