<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_12_05_2131200</id>
	<title>How To See Through an Invisibility Cloak</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1260009000000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>AMESN writes <i>"Ways to <a href="http://www.sciencenews.org/view/feature/id/49151/title/Invisibility\_Uncloaked">bend light around objects and render them invisible</a> are becoming a major field of scientific study and gaining ground. While no actual invisibility cloak exists yet, researchers are also theorizing on <a href="http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/50418/title/Chink\_found\_in\_armor\_of\_perfect\_cloak">how to beat the perfect cloak</a>."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>AMESN writes " Ways to bend light around objects and render them invisible are becoming a major field of scientific study and gaining ground .
While no actual invisibility cloak exists yet , researchers are also theorizing on how to beat the perfect cloak .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>AMESN writes "Ways to bend light around objects and render them invisible are becoming a major field of scientific study and gaining ground.
While no actual invisibility cloak exists yet, researchers are also theorizing on how to beat the perfect cloak.
"</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30344328</id>
	<title>Re:Why worry?</title>
	<author>lymond01</author>
	<datestamp>1260125820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Meh.  Amplify and fork the incoming light -- some goes around to the back of the cloak and out, some reaches your eyes.  It's all right there in the manual...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Meh .
Amplify and fork the incoming light -- some goes around to the back of the cloak and out , some reaches your eyes .
It 's all right there in the manual.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Meh.
Amplify and fork the incoming light -- some goes around to the back of the cloak and out, some reaches your eyes.
It's all right there in the manual...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339466</id>
	<title>Re:Look to video games for ideas...</title>
	<author>JWSmythe</author>
	<datestamp>1260016920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; Ahhh, a proper response from a representative from the Pentagon.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; It's also the same reason aliens will never visit us and say "hi".  If you don't understand it (or can't see it), bomb it.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>    Ahhh , a proper response from a representative from the Pentagon .
: )     It 's also the same reason aliens will never visit us and say " hi " .
If you do n't understand it ( or ca n't see it ) , bomb it .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
    Ahhh, a proper response from a representative from the Pentagon.
:)
    It's also the same reason aliens will never visit us and say "hi".
If you don't understand it (or can't see it), bomb it.
:)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339986</id>
	<title>Scotty thought of This</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260021540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Scotty [from Star Trek] already thought of this.</p><p>Everything releases "emissions" of some sort, be they EM Radiation, Gas, etc.</p><p>If the wearer is a person, just gotta look for some "emissions" ie: farts.</p><p>To quote Scotty, "it's gotta have a tail-pipe"</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Scotty [ from Star Trek ] already thought of this.Everything releases " emissions " of some sort , be they EM Radiation , Gas , etc.If the wearer is a person , just got ta look for some " emissions " ie : farts.To quote Scotty , " it 's got ta have a tail-pipe "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Scotty [from Star Trek] already thought of this.Everything releases "emissions" of some sort, be they EM Radiation, Gas, etc.If the wearer is a person, just gotta look for some "emissions" ie: farts.To quote Scotty, "it's gotta have a tail-pipe"
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30338996</id>
	<title>Re:Look to video games for ideas...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260013620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why make things complicated? Just carpet bomb the region where you might have cloaked dudes running around. They won't stay invisible<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why make things complicated ?
Just carpet bomb the region where you might have cloaked dudes running around .
They wo n't stay invisible ; ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why make things complicated?
Just carpet bomb the region where you might have cloaked dudes running around.
They won't stay invisible ;).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30338890</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30341462</id>
	<title>Re:Look to video games for ideas...</title>
	<author>TangoMargarine</author>
	<datestamp>1260040140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>No, no, no! You have to nuke it from orbit--it's the only way to be sure.</htmltext>
<tokenext>No , no , no !
You have to nuke it from orbit--it 's the only way to be sure .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, no, no!
You have to nuke it from orbit--it's the only way to be sure.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30338996</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339290</id>
	<title>Misinterpreted the title</title>
	<author>MathiasRav</author>
	<datestamp>1260015600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I thought the article was about seeing the outside world from the invisible person's perspective. If visible light is beamed around you, that must mean you get no visible light for yourself, so the invisible man is also the blind man, no?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I thought the article was about seeing the outside world from the invisible person 's perspective .
If visible light is beamed around you , that must mean you get no visible light for yourself , so the invisible man is also the blind man , no ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I thought the article was about seeing the outside world from the invisible person's perspective.
If visible light is beamed around you, that must mean you get no visible light for yourself, so the invisible man is also the blind man, no?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339190</id>
	<title>Not Very Feasible</title>
	<author>KaptainKrunch</author>
	<datestamp>1260014880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Considering the amount of energy required to emit high energy particles and the short distance they can travel outside a vacuum, shooting electrons and reading the radiation would not be a feasible option.  This is not even considering introducing large amounts of radiation to the area which you are scanning.  How about a giant fan with a bunch of light weight objects and they will run into the invisibility cloak revealing its position.  Either than or non ionizing EM waves...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Considering the amount of energy required to emit high energy particles and the short distance they can travel outside a vacuum , shooting electrons and reading the radiation would not be a feasible option .
This is not even considering introducing large amounts of radiation to the area which you are scanning .
How about a giant fan with a bunch of light weight objects and they will run into the invisibility cloak revealing its position .
Either than or non ionizing EM waves.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Considering the amount of energy required to emit high energy particles and the short distance they can travel outside a vacuum, shooting electrons and reading the radiation would not be a feasible option.
This is not even considering introducing large amounts of radiation to the area which you are scanning.
How about a giant fan with a bunch of light weight objects and they will run into the invisibility cloak revealing its position.
Either than or non ionizing EM waves...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339134</id>
	<title>Two more suggestions</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260014520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1. If footprints appear on the ground but you cannot see anyone walking, then throw flour or paint at this spot.</p><p>2. Listen for the sound of an invisibility cloak scraping against the floor.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 .
If footprints appear on the ground but you can not see anyone walking , then throw flour or paint at this spot.2 .
Listen for the sound of an invisibility cloak scraping against the floor .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1.
If footprints appear on the ground but you cannot see anyone walking, then throw flour or paint at this spot.2.
Listen for the sound of an invisibility cloak scraping against the floor.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30340398</id>
	<title>Re:They have invisibility cloaks now they are look</title>
	<author>rockNme2349</author>
	<datestamp>1260025560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't know, I've never seen one.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't know , I 've never seen one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't know, I've never seen one.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30338974</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339384</id>
	<title>Re:rain</title>
	<author>the3stars</author>
	<datestamp>1260016260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"No invisibility cloak can hide"  famous last words...</htmltext>
<tokenext>" No invisibility cloak can hide " famous last words.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"No invisibility cloak can hide"  famous last words...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30338958</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30340776</id>
	<title>Re:You can't beat the perfect cloak...</title>
	<author>sznupi</author>
	<datestamp>1260029820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's why we have things like inertial navigation. Used already in comparable scenarios, in submarines for example.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's why we have things like inertial navigation .
Used already in comparable scenarios , in submarines for example .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's why we have things like inertial navigation.
Used already in comparable scenarios, in submarines for example.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339756</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30342190</id>
	<title>Re:Why not simply track displacement?</title>
	<author>JDeane</author>
	<datestamp>1260098160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It also seems like they could detect the gravity pull of the ship, while small it seems like there would be some? Of course they did have artificial gravity so maybe they solved that little problem by canceling out there own gravity well? would make for some insane maneuvering with no mass to deal with. Unless gravity has nothing to do with mass then I am completely wrong but I am no physics major so I won't feel too bad about it<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>And to me it seems like the cloaked ships would need to be extra careful as to me it seems like getting hit with an energy weapon while cloaked would cause more damage VS not being cloaked.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It also seems like they could detect the gravity pull of the ship , while small it seems like there would be some ?
Of course they did have artificial gravity so maybe they solved that little problem by canceling out there own gravity well ?
would make for some insane maneuvering with no mass to deal with .
Unless gravity has nothing to do with mass then I am completely wrong but I am no physics major so I wo n't feel too bad about it : ) And to me it seems like the cloaked ships would need to be extra careful as to me it seems like getting hit with an energy weapon while cloaked would cause more damage VS not being cloaked .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It also seems like they could detect the gravity pull of the ship, while small it seems like there would be some?
Of course they did have artificial gravity so maybe they solved that little problem by canceling out there own gravity well?
would make for some insane maneuvering with no mass to deal with.
Unless gravity has nothing to do with mass then I am completely wrong but I am no physics major so I won't feel too bad about it :)And to me it seems like the cloaked ships would need to be extra careful as to me it seems like getting hit with an energy weapon while cloaked would cause more damage VS not being cloaked.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339552</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30340056</id>
	<title>Perfect solution is relative</title>
	<author>icepick72</author>
	<datestamp>1260022200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If the people who can see through your invisibility technology aren't the people you're warring with or hiding something from, then your invisibility solution doesn't need to be foolproof. A solution can be perfect for a given situation even if it's not academically or technically perfect.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If the people who can see through your invisibility technology are n't the people you 're warring with or hiding something from , then your invisibility solution does n't need to be foolproof .
A solution can be perfect for a given situation even if it 's not academically or technically perfect .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the people who can see through your invisibility technology aren't the people you're warring with or hiding something from, then your invisibility solution doesn't need to be foolproof.
A solution can be perfect for a given situation even if it's not academically or technically perfect.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339756</id>
	<title>Re:You can't beat the perfect cloak...</title>
	<author>rossdee</author>
	<datestamp>1260019500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If your invisiblity device is 'perfect' then <b>You</b> can't see out.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If your invisiblity device is 'perfect ' then You ca n't see out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If your invisiblity device is 'perfect' then You can't see out.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339014</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30340092</id>
	<title>Re:It's rather easy...</title>
	<author>AaxelB</author>
	<datestamp>1260022620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>You can drink a blessed potion of see invisible or eat an invisible stalker's corpse while invisible.</p></div><p>Or just be a monk. You also get the bonus of being incredibly badass.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>You can drink a blessed potion of see invisible or eat an invisible stalker 's corpse while invisible.Or just be a monk .
You also get the bonus of being incredibly badass .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can drink a blessed potion of see invisible or eat an invisible stalker's corpse while invisible.Or just be a monk.
You also get the bonus of being incredibly badass.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339224</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339164</id>
	<title>Invisibility</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260014700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>An "invisibility cloak" these days doesn't just necessarily apply to the visible light spectrum.  The cloak could be a thermal or radar "invisibility" cloak, leaving an object perfectly visible to the naked eye, but invisible on other scans.  Penetrating thermal invisibility cloaks might end up more important, because camouflage can take care of visible light from overhead, it's the thermal that's the giveaway.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>An " invisibility cloak " these days does n't just necessarily apply to the visible light spectrum .
The cloak could be a thermal or radar " invisibility " cloak , leaving an object perfectly visible to the naked eye , but invisible on other scans .
Penetrating thermal invisibility cloaks might end up more important , because camouflage can take care of visible light from overhead , it 's the thermal that 's the giveaway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An "invisibility cloak" these days doesn't just necessarily apply to the visible light spectrum.
The cloak could be a thermal or radar "invisibility" cloak, leaving an object perfectly visible to the naked eye, but invisible on other scans.
Penetrating thermal invisibility cloaks might end up more important, because camouflage can take care of visible light from overhead, it's the thermal that's the giveaway.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30340752</id>
	<title>um....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260029520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Cloaking technology would be pretty damn cool...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Cloaking technology would be pretty damn cool.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cloaking technology would be pretty damn cool...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339338</id>
	<title>The article seems to focus just on light</title>
	<author>mjensen</author>
	<datestamp>1260015900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>from TFA : "...but a cloak that perfectly hides objects at all wavelengths of radiation &mdash; including AM radio waves, visible light and X-rays &mdash; would be extremely difficult to create..."</p><p>How about ultrasonic sensors?  Or rain, like another message says.  Ground pressure or vibration.</p><p>I think something with enough sensitivity (like a cloaked object going past a stationary LIDAR gun beam) could see some disturbance that wasn't there before.  If the light is bending around an object, it may be invisible but the light would be taking longer to make the trip.<br>A properly tuned laser beam frequency with matching receiver could probably detect cloaked objects too.</p><p>So much of this is by "cloaked to a person" and not to sensors.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>from TFA : " ...but a cloak that perfectly hides objects at all wavelengths of radiation    including AM radio waves , visible light and X-rays    would be extremely difficult to create... " How about ultrasonic sensors ?
Or rain , like another message says .
Ground pressure or vibration.I think something with enough sensitivity ( like a cloaked object going past a stationary LIDAR gun beam ) could see some disturbance that was n't there before .
If the light is bending around an object , it may be invisible but the light would be taking longer to make the trip.A properly tuned laser beam frequency with matching receiver could probably detect cloaked objects too.So much of this is by " cloaked to a person " and not to sensors .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>from TFA : "...but a cloak that perfectly hides objects at all wavelengths of radiation — including AM radio waves, visible light and X-rays — would be extremely difficult to create..."How about ultrasonic sensors?
Or rain, like another message says.
Ground pressure or vibration.I think something with enough sensitivity (like a cloaked object going past a stationary LIDAR gun beam) could see some disturbance that wasn't there before.
If the light is bending around an object, it may be invisible but the light would be taking longer to make the trip.A properly tuned laser beam frequency with matching receiver could probably detect cloaked objects too.So much of this is by "cloaked to a person" and not to sensors.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339374</id>
	<title>Re:rain</title>
	<author>thelamecamel</author>
	<datestamp>1260016200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yep, and even if you got a broadband cloak that worked at all those frequencies, you could still pick it up by a number of ways not mentioned in TFA.  You could pick it up with sonar (I guess in principle it could also be an acoustic cloak to beat that too), but you could also change the refractive index of the room.  The cloak is designed so that no matter what's in the cloaked region, it appears to have a refractive index of 1 (or whatever the cloak's surrounds are supposed to be).  If you change the refractive index of the surrounds slightly (change temperature, spray an aerosol, fill the room with water (!)) then the cloak should be relatively easy to spot.</p><p>The other downside of these cloaks, of course, is that you can't see out of them since no light interacts with your eyes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yep , and even if you got a broadband cloak that worked at all those frequencies , you could still pick it up by a number of ways not mentioned in TFA .
You could pick it up with sonar ( I guess in principle it could also be an acoustic cloak to beat that too ) , but you could also change the refractive index of the room .
The cloak is designed so that no matter what 's in the cloaked region , it appears to have a refractive index of 1 ( or whatever the cloak 's surrounds are supposed to be ) .
If you change the refractive index of the surrounds slightly ( change temperature , spray an aerosol , fill the room with water ( !
) ) then the cloak should be relatively easy to spot.The other downside of these cloaks , of course , is that you ca n't see out of them since no light interacts with your eyes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yep, and even if you got a broadband cloak that worked at all those frequencies, you could still pick it up by a number of ways not mentioned in TFA.
You could pick it up with sonar (I guess in principle it could also be an acoustic cloak to beat that too), but you could also change the refractive index of the room.
The cloak is designed so that no matter what's in the cloaked region, it appears to have a refractive index of 1 (or whatever the cloak's surrounds are supposed to be).
If you change the refractive index of the surrounds slightly (change temperature, spray an aerosol, fill the room with water (!
)) then the cloak should be relatively easy to spot.The other downside of these cloaks, of course, is that you can't see out of them since no light interacts with your eyes.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339540</id>
	<title>Re:The Possibilities</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260017460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Thanks! Haven't had such a good laugh in slashdot for a while. =)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Thanks !
Have n't had such a good laugh in slashdot for a while .
= )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thanks!
Haven't had such a good laugh in slashdot for a while.
=)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30338882</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30340676</id>
	<title>In other news...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260028620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Scientists testing the technology to detect the 'perfect' invisibility cloak, have discovered that aliens do in fact actually walk among us...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Scientists testing the technology to detect the 'perfect ' invisibility cloak , have discovered that aliens do in fact actually walk among us.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Scientists testing the technology to detect the 'perfect' invisibility cloak, have discovered that aliens do in fact actually walk among us...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30338882</id>
	<title>The Possibilities</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260012600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Imagine the possibilities. A rockin night out at a night club, some girl falls in love with you and later you give her the best sex she has ever had. You will not need to sneak out in morning; put on the invisibility cloak, kiss her tits a goodbye, and grab a slice of delicious hawaiian pizza with one beer from her refrigerator and just get home.<br>
<br>
And like, what kind of a girl would have a fucking particle launcher next to her bed?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Imagine the possibilities .
A rockin night out at a night club , some girl falls in love with you and later you give her the best sex she has ever had .
You will not need to sneak out in morning ; put on the invisibility cloak , kiss her tits a goodbye , and grab a slice of delicious hawaiian pizza with one beer from her refrigerator and just get home .
And like , what kind of a girl would have a fucking particle launcher next to her bed ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Imagine the possibilities.
A rockin night out at a night club, some girl falls in love with you and later you give her the best sex she has ever had.
You will not need to sneak out in morning; put on the invisibility cloak, kiss her tits a goodbye, and grab a slice of delicious hawaiian pizza with one beer from her refrigerator and just get home.
And like, what kind of a girl would have a fucking particle launcher next to her bed?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339562</id>
	<title>Re:Invisibility</title>
	<author>Almahtar</author>
	<datestamp>1260017640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Or being invisible to X-Ray...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Or being invisible to X-Ray.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or being invisible to X-Ray...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339164</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339366</id>
	<title>NMP Field</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260016080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I figure I could start research on how to overcome an NMP field, but I figure it really isn't my concern.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I figure I could start research on how to overcome an NMP field , but I figure it really is n't my concern .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I figure I could start research on how to overcome an NMP field, but I figure it really isn't my concern.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30340334</id>
	<title>Re:Invisibility</title>
	<author>Idiomatick</author>
	<datestamp>1260024900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wow.... scrolling past your comment I caught:<br>"naked" . . . . . . . . . . "Penetrating"</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow.... scrolling past your comment I caught : " naked " .
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. " Penetrating "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow.... scrolling past your comment I caught:"naked" .
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. "Penetrating"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339164</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339788</id>
	<title>Simple:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260019800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just use gas-seeking proton torpedoes to seek the emissions of the impulse drive.</p><p>Didn't they watch "Star Trek: The Undiscovered Country"?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just use gas-seeking proton torpedoes to seek the emissions of the impulse drive.Did n't they watch " Star Trek : The Undiscovered Country " ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just use gas-seeking proton torpedoes to seek the emissions of the impulse drive.Didn't they watch "Star Trek: The Undiscovered Country"?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339566</id>
	<title>Re:rain</title>
	<author>adamchou</author>
	<datestamp>1260017640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> extremely difficult to defeat radar + infared + visible + UV all at the same time</p></div><p>Would it even make sense to become invisible to electromagnetic radiation at so many wavelengths? If someone creates the perfect cloak, how can the person on the inside see whats around them? How do you communicate with anything that is cloaked?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>extremely difficult to defeat radar + infared + visible + UV all at the same timeWould it even make sense to become invisible to electromagnetic radiation at so many wavelengths ?
If someone creates the perfect cloak , how can the person on the inside see whats around them ?
How do you communicate with anything that is cloaked ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext> extremely difficult to defeat radar + infared + visible + UV all at the same timeWould it even make sense to become invisible to electromagnetic radiation at so many wavelengths?
If someone creates the perfect cloak, how can the person on the inside see whats around them?
How do you communicate with anything that is cloaked?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30338958</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339552</id>
	<title>Why not simply track displacement?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260017580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This has always been something that's bothered me about Star Trek. It's well-established that "cloaked" objects, including people, still exist as solid matter and therefore displace whatever space they're occupying. I would think a foolproof means of tracking cloaked objects would simply be to concentrate on whatever it is they're displacing, and look for the telltale starship/person-shaped contour of gaps of nothingness where displacement is occurring. Take the interior decks of a Federation starship for example - authorized moving displacements signifying crew (tagged by their commbadges) if they simply ever thought to track the density and movement of the air they're pumping into each and every deck. Space is much the same way - it's not a perfect vacuum, and you can't tell me that Federation sensors aren't powerful enough to pick up damn near everything in their immediate surroundings.</p><p>This also bothered me in Stargate: Atlantis the multiple times Atlantis was cloaked to hide it from orbiting Wraith vessels. They know what Atlantis looks like, can't they just scan the ocean's surface and look for the telltale snowflake shape of water displaced by the city?</p><p>Point is: a cloaked object in a perfect vacuum (absence of everything) would be impossible to track using displacement, but a perfect vacuum exists only in hypothesis. Cloaked objects are always going to have to displace something, so rather than trying to pick up the cloaked object directly, why not concentrate on what you can see and look for gaps which shouldn't be there?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This has always been something that 's bothered me about Star Trek .
It 's well-established that " cloaked " objects , including people , still exist as solid matter and therefore displace whatever space they 're occupying .
I would think a foolproof means of tracking cloaked objects would simply be to concentrate on whatever it is they 're displacing , and look for the telltale starship/person-shaped contour of gaps of nothingness where displacement is occurring .
Take the interior decks of a Federation starship for example - authorized moving displacements signifying crew ( tagged by their commbadges ) if they simply ever thought to track the density and movement of the air they 're pumping into each and every deck .
Space is much the same way - it 's not a perfect vacuum , and you ca n't tell me that Federation sensors are n't powerful enough to pick up damn near everything in their immediate surroundings.This also bothered me in Stargate : Atlantis the multiple times Atlantis was cloaked to hide it from orbiting Wraith vessels .
They know what Atlantis looks like , ca n't they just scan the ocean 's surface and look for the telltale snowflake shape of water displaced by the city ? Point is : a cloaked object in a perfect vacuum ( absence of everything ) would be impossible to track using displacement , but a perfect vacuum exists only in hypothesis .
Cloaked objects are always going to have to displace something , so rather than trying to pick up the cloaked object directly , why not concentrate on what you can see and look for gaps which should n't be there ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This has always been something that's bothered me about Star Trek.
It's well-established that "cloaked" objects, including people, still exist as solid matter and therefore displace whatever space they're occupying.
I would think a foolproof means of tracking cloaked objects would simply be to concentrate on whatever it is they're displacing, and look for the telltale starship/person-shaped contour of gaps of nothingness where displacement is occurring.
Take the interior decks of a Federation starship for example - authorized moving displacements signifying crew (tagged by their commbadges) if they simply ever thought to track the density and movement of the air they're pumping into each and every deck.
Space is much the same way - it's not a perfect vacuum, and you can't tell me that Federation sensors aren't powerful enough to pick up damn near everything in their immediate surroundings.This also bothered me in Stargate: Atlantis the multiple times Atlantis was cloaked to hide it from orbiting Wraith vessels.
They know what Atlantis looks like, can't they just scan the ocean's surface and look for the telltale snowflake shape of water displaced by the city?Point is: a cloaked object in a perfect vacuum (absence of everything) would be impossible to track using displacement, but a perfect vacuum exists only in hypothesis.
Cloaked objects are always going to have to displace something, so rather than trying to pick up the cloaked object directly, why not concentrate on what you can see and look for gaps which shouldn't be there?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30342558</id>
	<title>Re:The easy solution, from the article</title>
	<author>dkleinsc</author>
	<datestamp>1260105720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Much better: throw a handful of flour at it. Hey, it worked well when my D&amp;D party had to deal with invisible stalkers, why not this?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Much better : throw a handful of flour at it .
Hey , it worked well when my D&amp;D party had to deal with invisible stalkers , why not this ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Much better: throw a handful of flour at it.
Hey, it worked well when my D&amp;D party had to deal with invisible stalkers, why not this?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30338964</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339534</id>
	<title>surprise?</title>
	<author>mathfeel</author>
	<datestamp>1260017400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>A device designed to do one thing (bend light of certain wavelength) turns out cannot do another (bend other particle/wavelength).  News at 11.</htmltext>
<tokenext>A device designed to do one thing ( bend light of certain wavelength ) turns out can not do another ( bend other particle/wavelength ) .
News at 11 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A device designed to do one thing (bend light of certain wavelength) turns out cannot do another (bend other particle/wavelength).
News at 11.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339764</id>
	<title>Let's keep it real</title>
	<author>Ancient\_Hacker</author>
	<datestamp>1260019560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We're getting a bit too excited here.   If you read TFA you'll realize how limited this thing is.   Many of these designs can only work at one frequency, usually microwave, in one direction, over a very small area, in 2D, and with considerable scattering and attenuation.</p><p>That's a heck of a long way from a usable cloaking device.   The problems of scattering and attenuation are going to be particularly intractable.</p><p>It's unlikely that every one of the many shortcomings can each be improved by the needed factor of 100 or so.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We 're getting a bit too excited here .
If you read TFA you 'll realize how limited this thing is .
Many of these designs can only work at one frequency , usually microwave , in one direction , over a very small area , in 2D , and with considerable scattering and attenuation.That 's a heck of a long way from a usable cloaking device .
The problems of scattering and attenuation are going to be particularly intractable.It 's unlikely that every one of the many shortcomings can each be improved by the needed factor of 100 or so .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We're getting a bit too excited here.
If you read TFA you'll realize how limited this thing is.
Many of these designs can only work at one frequency, usually microwave, in one direction, over a very small area, in 2D, and with considerable scattering and attenuation.That's a heck of a long way from a usable cloaking device.
The problems of scattering and attenuation are going to be particularly intractable.It's unlikely that every one of the many shortcomings can each be improved by the needed factor of 100 or so.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339022</id>
	<title>How about a $5 solution?</title>
	<author>h4rr4r</author>
	<datestamp>1260013860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A laser pointer, the cheap red kind you can find at any corner store.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A laser pointer , the cheap red kind you can find at any corner store .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A laser pointer, the cheap red kind you can find at any corner store.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30348648</id>
	<title>Re:rain</title>
	<author>Psaakyrn</author>
	<datestamp>1260114780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or it can simply work on redirecting all EM frequencies and defeat any conventional definitions of "seeing".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or it can simply work on redirecting all EM frequencies and defeat any conventional definitions of " seeing " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or it can simply work on redirecting all EM frequencies and defeat any conventional definitions of "seeing".</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30338958</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30341094</id>
	<title>Spychecking</title>
	<author>VGPowerlord</author>
	<datestamp>1260034500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, the easiest way is to have Pyros that Spycheck, or just bump into the Spy by accident.</p><p>Wait, you don't mean in Team Fortress 2?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , the easiest way is to have Pyros that Spycheck , or just bump into the Spy by accident.Wait , you do n't mean in Team Fortress 2 ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, the easiest way is to have Pyros that Spycheck, or just bump into the Spy by accident.Wait, you don't mean in Team Fortress 2?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30341230</id>
	<title>Re:rain</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260036540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>The other downside of these cloaks, of course, is that you can't see out of them since no light interacts with your eyes.</i> <br> <br>You could use a mechanism similar to the linux tee command to send light both to the eyes and the opposite side of the cloak (semi-silvered mirror, and a light amplifier).    Besides,  two pupil sized holes that can only be seen when the cloaked person is looking directly at you could easily be missed.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The other downside of these cloaks , of course , is that you ca n't see out of them since no light interacts with your eyes .
You could use a mechanism similar to the linux tee command to send light both to the eyes and the opposite side of the cloak ( semi-silvered mirror , and a light amplifier ) .
Besides , two pupil sized holes that can only be seen when the cloaked person is looking directly at you could easily be missed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The other downside of these cloaks, of course, is that you can't see out of them since no light interacts with your eyes.
You could use a mechanism similar to the linux tee command to send light both to the eyes and the opposite side of the cloak (semi-silvered mirror, and a light amplifier).
Besides,  two pupil sized holes that can only be seen when the cloaked person is looking directly at you could easily be missed.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339374</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30338958</id>
	<title>rain</title>
	<author>wizardforce</author>
	<datestamp>1260013260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No invisibility cloak can hide the fact that it's still a solid object.  That or utilize various frequencies of EM as it would be extremely difficult to defeat radar + infared + visible + UV all at the same time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No invisibility cloak can hide the fact that it 's still a solid object .
That or utilize various frequencies of EM as it would be extremely difficult to defeat radar + infared + visible + UV all at the same time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No invisibility cloak can hide the fact that it's still a solid object.
That or utilize various frequencies of EM as it would be extremely difficult to defeat radar + infared + visible + UV all at the same time.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339362</id>
	<title>Re:Bahh... the Federation and Dominion figured it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260016080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>La Forge already discovered this when they did made a tachyon pulse grid to detect if there are any Romulan ship trying to get in to Klingon space while the there was civil unrest in Kronos.</p></div></blockquote><p> Technically the tachyon grid was a trap.  They purposely left a hole in the net to catch the Romulans.  Of course, in the real world, a sensor array of even interplanetary scale is far beyond our capabilities.  The sensitivity needs to be extraordinary to detect somethin the size of a ship at such distances.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>La Forge already discovered this when they did made a tachyon pulse grid to detect if there are any Romulan ship trying to get in to Klingon space while the there was civil unrest in Kronos .
Technically the tachyon grid was a trap .
They purposely left a hole in the net to catch the Romulans .
Of course , in the real world , a sensor array of even interplanetary scale is far beyond our capabilities .
The sensitivity needs to be extraordinary to detect somethin the size of a ship at such distances .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>La Forge already discovered this when they did made a tachyon pulse grid to detect if there are any Romulan ship trying to get in to Klingon space while the there was civil unrest in Kronos.
Technically the tachyon grid was a trap.
They purposely left a hole in the net to catch the Romulans.
Of course, in the real world, a sensor array of even interplanetary scale is far beyond our capabilities.
The sensitivity needs to be extraordinary to detect somethin the size of a ship at such distances.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339138</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30340834</id>
	<title>Re:Why worry?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260030660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or you just emit an amount of light equal to the amount you absorb to see.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or you just emit an amount of light equal to the amount you absorb to see .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or you just emit an amount of light equal to the amount you absorb to see.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339114</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339006</id>
	<title>I'm inventing a visibility cloak!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260013740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just toss my visibility cloak over the suspect and you will be able to see anyone under it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just toss my visibility cloak over the suspect and you will be able to see anyone under it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just toss my visibility cloak over the suspect and you will be able to see anyone under it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30340488</id>
	<title>Underpowered ping pong ball guns</title>
	<author>4181</author>
	<datestamp>1260026340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>TFA:<p><div class="quote"><p>Unlike pingpong balls, charged particles can move through an object, leaving telltale radiation in their wake.</p></div><p>They must not be doing it right.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>TFA : Unlike pingpong balls , charged particles can move through an object , leaving telltale radiation in their wake.They must not be doing it right .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>TFA:Unlike pingpong balls, charged particles can move through an object, leaving telltale radiation in their wake.They must not be doing it right.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30357050</id>
	<title>Sonar...</title>
	<author>hazydave</author>
	<datestamp>1260176640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The question was how to see through an invisibility cloak based on the current research... essentially, bending various wavelengths of light/RF/EM around itself in some way. The "perfect" cloak would be the one to bend all such forms around itself.</p><p>So I'd use sonar... I'mn not using any electromagetic energy, but physical waves, not included in the "perfection" of the cloak. And we already know how to build ultrasonic imagers, so it doesn't even take new technology.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The question was how to see through an invisibility cloak based on the current research... essentially , bending various wavelengths of light/RF/EM around itself in some way .
The " perfect " cloak would be the one to bend all such forms around itself.So I 'd use sonar... I'mn not using any electromagetic energy , but physical waves , not included in the " perfection " of the cloak .
And we already know how to build ultrasonic imagers , so it does n't even take new technology .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The question was how to see through an invisibility cloak based on the current research... essentially, bending various wavelengths of light/RF/EM around itself in some way.
The "perfect" cloak would be the one to bend all such forms around itself.So I'd use sonar... I'mn not using any electromagetic energy, but physical waves, not included in the "perfection" of the cloak.
And we already know how to build ultrasonic imagers, so it doesn't even take new technology.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30344634</id>
	<title>Re:How to see through an invisibility cloak?</title>
	<author>PingPongBoy</author>
	<datestamp>1260127800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How?</p><p>Without even trying.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How ? Without even trying .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How?Without even trying.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30338954</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339238</id>
	<title>Re:The Possibilities</title>
	<author>eln</author>
	<datestamp>1260015180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>As long as we're talking about things that could never even come close to happening to anyone on this site, why bother with the invisibility cloak?  You could just as easily jump out the bedroom window, land on your pegasus, which is floating just outside said window, and fly off to your Fortress of Solitude, which is totally not your parents' basement.</htmltext>
<tokenext>As long as we 're talking about things that could never even come close to happening to anyone on this site , why bother with the invisibility cloak ?
You could just as easily jump out the bedroom window , land on your pegasus , which is floating just outside said window , and fly off to your Fortress of Solitude , which is totally not your parents ' basement .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As long as we're talking about things that could never even come close to happening to anyone on this site, why bother with the invisibility cloak?
You could just as easily jump out the bedroom window, land on your pegasus, which is floating just outside said window, and fly off to your Fortress of Solitude, which is totally not your parents' basement.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30338882</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339014</id>
	<title>You can't beat the perfect cloak...</title>
	<author>unitron</author>
	<datestamp>1260013800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you can, it's not perfect.</p><p>The real problem isn't detecting it.  It's knowing that you need to be trying to detect it in the first place, and approximately when and in what area.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you can , it 's not perfect.The real problem is n't detecting it .
It 's knowing that you need to be trying to detect it in the first place , and approximately when and in what area .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you can, it's not perfect.The real problem isn't detecting it.
It's knowing that you need to be trying to detect it in the first place, and approximately when and in what area.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339570</id>
	<title>well...</title>
	<author>thaddeusthudpucker</author>
	<datestamp>1260017700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>You could just get a magical eye like Mad-Eye Moody....</htmltext>
<tokenext>You could just get a magical eye like Mad-Eye Moody... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You could just get a magical eye like Mad-Eye Moody....</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30340160</id>
	<title>Re:Why worry?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260023100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Active camouflage need only require that you emit the same light passing through. If you have a versatile enough emitter, you could absorb some light to observe and emit the rest on the other side. Thus you can have a perfect active cloak PLUS be able to observe as well. Net energy has to be around zero, so you'll be burning power to run it, but it's better than blindness.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Active camouflage need only require that you emit the same light passing through .
If you have a versatile enough emitter , you could absorb some light to observe and emit the rest on the other side .
Thus you can have a perfect active cloak PLUS be able to observe as well .
Net energy has to be around zero , so you 'll be burning power to run it , but it 's better than blindness .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Active camouflage need only require that you emit the same light passing through.
If you have a versatile enough emitter, you could absorb some light to observe and emit the rest on the other side.
Thus you can have a perfect active cloak PLUS be able to observe as well.
Net energy has to be around zero, so you'll be burning power to run it, but it's better than blindness.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339114</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30340550</id>
	<title>How do I see through an invisibility cloak?</title>
	<author>scuzzlebutt</author>
	<datestamp>1260027120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I switch to infrared.  Duh.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I switch to infrared .
Duh .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I switch to infrared.
Duh.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339218</id>
	<title>The Perfect Weapon</title>
	<author>Fred The Toaster</author>
	<datestamp>1260015060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What about using mirror? I could imagine that working as a good weapon against invisibility cloaks....</htmltext>
<tokenext>What about using mirror ?
I could imagine that working as a good weapon against invisibility cloaks... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What about using mirror?
I could imagine that working as a good weapon against invisibility cloaks....</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339682</id>
	<title>Cloak beating sytem.</title>
	<author>w0mprat</author>
	<datestamp>1260018900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hit it with something. Seriously, the obvious solution is to spam your environment with small projectiles, track them, see what bounces off something. Or blow on it it: tracking motion of air/turbulence as air movement in the environment is changed by the objects presence.
<br> <br>
Point is if you have a object perfectly cloaked to a good swathe of the electromagnetic spectrum there are still other ways it impinges on it's environment. Accoustics, sound waves (although they may be easy to cloak also) etc.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hit it with something .
Seriously , the obvious solution is to spam your environment with small projectiles , track them , see what bounces off something .
Or blow on it it : tracking motion of air/turbulence as air movement in the environment is changed by the objects presence .
Point is if you have a object perfectly cloaked to a good swathe of the electromagnetic spectrum there are still other ways it impinges on it 's environment .
Accoustics , sound waves ( although they may be easy to cloak also ) etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hit it with something.
Seriously, the obvious solution is to spam your environment with small projectiles, track them, see what bounces off something.
Or blow on it it: tracking motion of air/turbulence as air movement in the environment is changed by the objects presence.
Point is if you have a object perfectly cloaked to a good swathe of the electromagnetic spectrum there are still other ways it impinges on it's environment.
Accoustics, sound waves (although they may be easy to cloak also) etc.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339518</id>
	<title>When the enemy is invisible...</title>
	<author>marciot</author>
	<datestamp>1260017280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...only the blind shall see.</p><p>I'm sure widespread use invisibility cloaks will lead to increased recruitment of blind people to the military. And that blind kid who does echolocation will be recruited to train a new elite force of super-soldiers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...only the blind shall see.I 'm sure widespread use invisibility cloaks will lead to increased recruitment of blind people to the military .
And that blind kid who does echolocation will be recruited to train a new elite force of super-soldiers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...only the blind shall see.I'm sure widespread use invisibility cloaks will lead to increased recruitment of blind people to the military.
And that blind kid who does echolocation will be recruited to train a new elite force of super-soldiers.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30341170</id>
	<title>Re:It's rather easy...</title>
	<author>syrinx</author>
	<datestamp>1260035460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I believe crowning works too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I believe crowning works too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I believe crowning works too.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339224</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339286</id>
	<title>Re:Bahh... the Federation and Dominion figured it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260015600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's always nice to notice there actually are <i>a lot</i> bigger nerds in the world than me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's always nice to notice there actually are a lot bigger nerds in the world than me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's always nice to notice there actually are a lot bigger nerds in the world than me.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339138</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30341312</id>
	<title>Re:You can't beat the perfect cloak...</title>
	<author>jpmorgan</author>
	<datestamp>1260037620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You mean, no true Scotsman can beat the perfect cloak.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You mean , no true Scotsman can beat the perfect cloak .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You mean, no true Scotsman can beat the perfect cloak.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339014</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339098</id>
	<title>TFA</title>
	<author>wizardforce</author>
	<datestamp>1260014340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>TFA mentions using charged particles and multiple wavelengths of EM to detect a clocked object.  TFA suggests that they were measuring the actual effect on the path of the radiation its self although it should be pointed out that this is quite possibly unnecessary as high energy charged particle entering a solid material undergo an extremely high de-acceleration phase which causes charged particles to emit EM radiation.  It's called <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bremsstrahlung" title="wikipedia.org">Bremsstrahlung</a> [wikipedia.org] radiation and could quite possibly be detected.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>TFA mentions using charged particles and multiple wavelengths of EM to detect a clocked object .
TFA suggests that they were measuring the actual effect on the path of the radiation its self although it should be pointed out that this is quite possibly unnecessary as high energy charged particle entering a solid material undergo an extremely high de-acceleration phase which causes charged particles to emit EM radiation .
It 's called Bremsstrahlung [ wikipedia.org ] radiation and could quite possibly be detected .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>TFA mentions using charged particles and multiple wavelengths of EM to detect a clocked object.
TFA suggests that they were measuring the actual effect on the path of the radiation its self although it should be pointed out that this is quite possibly unnecessary as high energy charged particle entering a solid material undergo an extremely high de-acceleration phase which causes charged particles to emit EM radiation.
It's called Bremsstrahlung [wikipedia.org] radiation and could quite possibly be detected.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30342498</id>
	<title>Re:rain</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260104220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>That or utilize various frequencies of EM as it would be extremely difficult to defeat radar + infared + visible + UV all at the same time.</p></div><p>All you would need to do here is make sure each layer of the field will only capture the frequencies it is targeted at.<br>So you have an outer layer for red, inner for green and so on. (this is very basic for the sake of simplicity though, there is much more when it comes to frequencies)</p><p>Aren't metamaterials created by the actual structure of the materials, regardless of what makes it?  Or does it matter what the material is?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>That or utilize various frequencies of EM as it would be extremely difficult to defeat radar + infared + visible + UV all at the same time.All you would need to do here is make sure each layer of the field will only capture the frequencies it is targeted at.So you have an outer layer for red , inner for green and so on .
( this is very basic for the sake of simplicity though , there is much more when it comes to frequencies ) Are n't metamaterials created by the actual structure of the materials , regardless of what makes it ?
Or does it matter what the material is ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That or utilize various frequencies of EM as it would be extremely difficult to defeat radar + infared + visible + UV all at the same time.All you would need to do here is make sure each layer of the field will only capture the frequencies it is targeted at.So you have an outer layer for red, inner for green and so on.
(this is very basic for the sake of simplicity though, there is much more when it comes to frequencies)Aren't metamaterials created by the actual structure of the materials, regardless of what makes it?
Or does it matter what the material is?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30338958</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339760</id>
	<title>useful for the cloaker</title>
	<author>Khashishi</author>
	<datestamp>1260019560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Presumably, sensors that can penetrate cloaking would be very useful for the operators of the cloaked vehicle, because if no one can see you, you can't see anyone either. In order to see something, light has to be absorbed by the sensors inside the cloak. Since a cloak bends light around the vehicle, the vehicle is flying blind.</p><p>Not sure what the fuss is about--sonar should work fine.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Presumably , sensors that can penetrate cloaking would be very useful for the operators of the cloaked vehicle , because if no one can see you , you ca n't see anyone either .
In order to see something , light has to be absorbed by the sensors inside the cloak .
Since a cloak bends light around the vehicle , the vehicle is flying blind.Not sure what the fuss is about--sonar should work fine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Presumably, sensors that can penetrate cloaking would be very useful for the operators of the cloaked vehicle, because if no one can see you, you can't see anyone either.
In order to see something, light has to be absorbed by the sensors inside the cloak.
Since a cloak bends light around the vehicle, the vehicle is flying blind.Not sure what the fuss is about--sonar should work fine.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30340720</id>
	<title>Natal could beat it</title>
	<author>lc\_overlord</author>
	<datestamp>1260029160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Time of flight cameras such as the one in natal should be able to detect perfect cloaks due to the fact that light has to travel a longer distance, it would show up as a dent in the wall behind it.<br>Interferometry would also work as well by changing the interference patterns</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Time of flight cameras such as the one in natal should be able to detect perfect cloaks due to the fact that light has to travel a longer distance , it would show up as a dent in the wall behind it.Interferometry would also work as well by changing the interference patterns</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Time of flight cameras such as the one in natal should be able to detect perfect cloaks due to the fact that light has to travel a longer distance, it would show up as a dent in the wall behind it.Interferometry would also work as well by changing the interference patterns</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30351160</id>
	<title>Re:Spychecking</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260188100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Pyros are too dumb to spycheck these days. I usually have to go for the saw...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Pyros are too dumb to spycheck these days .
I usually have to go for the saw.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pyros are too dumb to spycheck these days.
I usually have to go for the saw...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30341094</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30341026</id>
	<title>Re:Why not simply track displacement?</title>
	<author>Thing 1</author>
	<datestamp>1260033360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I like that your<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.sig ties in perfectly with the knowledge that you display in your post.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</htmltext>
<tokenext>I like that your .sig ties in perfectly with the knowledge that you display in your post .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I like that your .sig ties in perfectly with the knowledge that you display in your post.
:)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339552</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30341062</id>
	<title>Can the cloak beat the firehose method?</title>
	<author>Orion Blastar</author>
	<datestamp>1260033900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just spray a firehose around the area, and watch the water bounce off the person or thing with the invisibility cloak? Obviously the water, unlike light, won't warp around the person or thing because it is matter and not photons.</p><p>I remember D&amp;D scenarios trying to find an invisible person or thing:</p><p>#1 Look for footprints, spread some paint or dust around and let the person step in them and leave a trail.<br>#2 Throw water, dust, or paint around the room and eventually it will hit the invisible person.<br>#3 The person can still be detected by smell, using dogs or some other animal to sniff them out.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just spray a firehose around the area , and watch the water bounce off the person or thing with the invisibility cloak ?
Obviously the water , unlike light , wo n't warp around the person or thing because it is matter and not photons.I remember D&amp;D scenarios trying to find an invisible person or thing : # 1 Look for footprints , spread some paint or dust around and let the person step in them and leave a trail. # 2 Throw water , dust , or paint around the room and eventually it will hit the invisible person. # 3 The person can still be detected by smell , using dogs or some other animal to sniff them out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just spray a firehose around the area, and watch the water bounce off the person or thing with the invisibility cloak?
Obviously the water, unlike light, won't warp around the person or thing because it is matter and not photons.I remember D&amp;D scenarios trying to find an invisible person or thing:#1 Look for footprints, spread some paint or dust around and let the person step in them and leave a trail.#2 Throw water, dust, or paint around the room and eventually it will hit the invisible person.#3 The person can still be detected by smell, using dogs or some other animal to sniff them out.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30340694</id>
	<title>Harry Potter reference</title>
	<author>ub3r n3u7r4l1st</author>
	<datestamp>1260028920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How can you detect? put some yelling powder on the floor!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How can you detect ?
put some yelling powder on the floor !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How can you detect?
put some yelling powder on the floor!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30338954</id>
	<title>How to see through an invisibility cloak?</title>
	<author>JKDguy82</author>
	<datestamp>1260013260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>turn it on?</htmltext>
<tokenext>turn it on ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>turn it on?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30340302</id>
	<title>Re:The easy solution, from the article</title>
	<author>Idiomatick</author>
	<datestamp>1260024660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I imagine throwing a stone at something you don't know is there to find it would be quite the feat.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I imagine throwing a stone at something you do n't know is there to find it would be quite the feat .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I imagine throwing a stone at something you don't know is there to find it would be quite the feat.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30338964</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30340172</id>
	<title>Silly question</title>
	<author>eyrieowl</author>
	<datestamp>1260023220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Use a scrying spell, obviously.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Use a scrying spell , obviously .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Use a scrying spell, obviously.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339202</id>
	<title>Re:Simple.</title>
	<author>linhares</author>
	<datestamp>1260014940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>very insightful.  you must be a nice, balanced, person</htmltext>
<tokenext>very insightful .
you must be a nice , balanced , person</tokentext>
<sentencetext>very insightful.
you must be a nice, balanced, person</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339084</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30338976</id>
	<title>Re:The Possibilities</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260013500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In that scenario aren't you supplying the particle launcher yourself?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In that scenario are n't you supplying the particle launcher yourself ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In that scenario aren't you supplying the particle launcher yourself?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30338882</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339002</id>
	<title>More uses than being invisible.</title>
	<author>NoYob</author>
	<datestamp>1260013740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>And because cloaks that shield longer wavelengths of light are easier to make, first successes came with microwaves &mdash; whose radiation can be measured in inches.</p></div><p>Or RADAR?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>And because cloaks that shield longer wavelengths of light are easier to make , first successes came with microwaves    whose radiation can be measured in inches.Or RADAR ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And because cloaks that shield longer wavelengths of light are easier to make, first successes came with microwaves — whose radiation can be measured in inches.Or RADAR?
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339548</id>
	<title>The solution</title>
	<author>RudeIota</author>
	<datestamp>1260017580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Everyone knows firing short, repeated bursts of tachyons between a 3 dimensional grid made up of Federation star ships is the most effective way to detect invisible, cloaked objects.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Everyone knows firing short , repeated bursts of tachyons between a 3 dimensional grid made up of Federation star ships is the most effective way to detect invisible , cloaked objects .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Everyone knows firing short, repeated bursts of tachyons between a 3 dimensional grid made up of Federation star ships is the most effective way to detect invisible, cloaked objects.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339138</id>
	<title>Bahh... the Federation and Dominion figured it out</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260014520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>La Forge already discovered this when they did made a tachyon pulse grid to detect if there are any Romulan ship trying to get in to Klingon space while the there was civil unrest in Kronos.</p><p>Also, the Jem'Hadar was able to detect the Defiant while on cloak during their first encounter in the Gamma Quadrant by using an anti-proton scan.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>La Forge already discovered this when they did made a tachyon pulse grid to detect if there are any Romulan ship trying to get in to Klingon space while the there was civil unrest in Kronos.Also , the Jem'Hadar was able to detect the Defiant while on cloak during their first encounter in the Gamma Quadrant by using an anti-proton scan .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>La Forge already discovered this when they did made a tachyon pulse grid to detect if there are any Romulan ship trying to get in to Klingon space while the there was civil unrest in Kronos.Also, the Jem'Hadar was able to detect the Defiant while on cloak during their first encounter in the Gamma Quadrant by using an anti-proton scan.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30340766</id>
	<title>Wouldn't heat...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260029700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... and lack thereof in the atmosphere around you away?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... and lack thereof in the atmosphere around you away ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... and lack thereof in the atmosphere around you away?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30344650</id>
	<title>Re:The Possibilities</title>
	<author>kehren77</author>
	<datestamp>1260127920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why the hell is the OP modded -1? Should be +5 Funny. If I had any mod points....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why the hell is the OP modded -1 ?
Should be + 5 Funny .
If I had any mod points... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why the hell is the OP modded -1?
Should be +5 Funny.
If I had any mod points....</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30338882</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339114</id>
	<title>Why worry?</title>
	<author>gmuslera</author>
	<datestamp>1260014400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>A perfect invisibility cloak is also a perfect blindness cloak. Unless you make i.e. missiles or bullets (dodge that, Neo!) with it, things with a predefined target, could be somewhat useless for most interesting uses. The imperfect are the useful ones.</htmltext>
<tokenext>A perfect invisibility cloak is also a perfect blindness cloak .
Unless you make i.e .
missiles or bullets ( dodge that , Neo !
) with it , things with a predefined target , could be somewhat useless for most interesting uses .
The imperfect are the useful ones .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A perfect invisibility cloak is also a perfect blindness cloak.
Unless you make i.e.
missiles or bullets (dodge that, Neo!
) with it, things with a predefined target, could be somewhat useless for most interesting uses.
The imperfect are the useful ones.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30338966</id>
	<title>flour?</title>
	<author>korney</author>
	<datestamp>1260013440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>&gt; While no actual invisibility cloak exists yet, researchers are also theorizing on how to beat the perfect cloak."
<br> <br>
How about flour and water?  This reminds me of a joke...</htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; While no actual invisibility cloak exists yet , researchers are also theorizing on how to beat the perfect cloak .
" How about flour and water ?
This reminds me of a joke.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; While no actual invisibility cloak exists yet, researchers are also theorizing on how to beat the perfect cloak.
"
 
How about flour and water?
This reminds me of a joke...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339460</id>
	<title>Simple</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260016860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It is invisible until it is found.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It is invisible until it is found .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is invisible until it is found.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30342048</id>
	<title>Re:Bahh... the Federation and Dominion figured it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260095520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><blockquote><div><p>La Forge already discovered this when they did made a tachyon pulse grid to detect if there are any Romulan ship trying to get in to Klingon space while the there was civil unrest in Kronos.</p></div></blockquote><p> Technically the tachyon grid was a trap.  They purposely left a hole in the net to catch the Romulans.  Of course, in the real world, a sensor array of even interplanetary scale is far beyond our capabilities.  The sensitivity needs to be extraordinary to detect somethin the size of a ship at such distances.</p></div><p>Wait wait wait, what do you mean "in the real world?"</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>La Forge already discovered this when they did made a tachyon pulse grid to detect if there are any Romulan ship trying to get in to Klingon space while the there was civil unrest in Kronos .
Technically the tachyon grid was a trap .
They purposely left a hole in the net to catch the Romulans .
Of course , in the real world , a sensor array of even interplanetary scale is far beyond our capabilities .
The sensitivity needs to be extraordinary to detect somethin the size of a ship at such distances.Wait wait wait , what do you mean " in the real world ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>La Forge already discovered this when they did made a tachyon pulse grid to detect if there are any Romulan ship trying to get in to Klingon space while the there was civil unrest in Kronos.
Technically the tachyon grid was a trap.
They purposely left a hole in the net to catch the Romulans.
Of course, in the real world, a sensor array of even interplanetary scale is far beyond our capabilities.
The sensitivity needs to be extraordinary to detect somethin the size of a ship at such distances.Wait wait wait, what do you mean "in the real world?
"
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339362</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30340018</id>
	<title>Re:You can't beat the perfect cloak...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260021840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you are referring to the problem of passing 100 \% of the incoming radiation through, that could be solved by detecting 10 \% of the radiation and then using an internal power source to amplify the remaining 90 \% to its original level.  Then again, using any power inside the cloak, whether to amplify EM radiation or simply to move and think on your own, is guaranteed to either emit radiation or to increase the temperature inside the cloak.  And in practice there is no 100 \% perfect heat insulation either.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you are referring to the problem of passing 100 \ % of the incoming radiation through , that could be solved by detecting 10 \ % of the radiation and then using an internal power source to amplify the remaining 90 \ % to its original level .
Then again , using any power inside the cloak , whether to amplify EM radiation or simply to move and think on your own , is guaranteed to either emit radiation or to increase the temperature inside the cloak .
And in practice there is no 100 \ % perfect heat insulation either .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you are referring to the problem of passing 100 \% of the incoming radiation through, that could be solved by detecting 10 \% of the radiation and then using an internal power source to amplify the remaining 90 \% to its original level.
Then again, using any power inside the cloak, whether to amplify EM radiation or simply to move and think on your own, is guaranteed to either emit radiation or to increase the temperature inside the cloak.
And in practice there is no 100 \% perfect heat insulation either.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339756</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30340218</id>
	<title>Re:The easy solution, from the article</title>
	<author>DigiShaman</author>
	<datestamp>1260023640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>First you have to know if something is there - cloaked. If your oblivious to the object, what reason would you have to throw any stone in the first place?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>First you have to know if something is there - cloaked .
If your oblivious to the object , what reason would you have to throw any stone in the first place ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>First you have to know if something is there - cloaked.
If your oblivious to the object, what reason would you have to throw any stone in the first place?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30338964</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30340040</id>
	<title>Re:rain</title>
	<author>mysidia</author>
	<datestamp>1260022020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
Hm... how about sound at various frequencies (outside the human audible range).. as in sonar?
Kind of hard to have a physical object that doesn't resonate mechanical vibrations.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hm... how about sound at various frequencies ( outside the human audible range ) .. as in sonar ?
Kind of hard to have a physical object that does n't resonate mechanical vibrations .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Hm... how about sound at various frequencies (outside the human audible range).. as in sonar?
Kind of hard to have a physical object that doesn't resonate mechanical vibrations.
</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30338958</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30341000</id>
	<title>Re:You can't beat the perfect cloak...</title>
	<author>hey!</author>
	<datestamp>1260032940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Somebody has been watching too many reruns of "Kung Fu"...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Somebody has been watching too many reruns of " Kung Fu " .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Somebody has been watching too many reruns of "Kung Fu"...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339014</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339244</id>
	<title>Re:Look to video games for ideas...</title>
	<author>easyTree</author>
	<datestamp>1260015240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So, standard behaviour then?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So , standard behaviour then ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, standard behaviour then?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30338996</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339224</id>
	<title>It's rather easy...</title>
	<author>Antiocheian</author>
	<datestamp>1260015060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You can drink a blessed potion of see invisible or eat an invisible stalker's corpse while invisible.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You can drink a blessed potion of see invisible or eat an invisible stalker 's corpse while invisible .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can drink a blessed potion of see invisible or eat an invisible stalker's corpse while invisible.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339292</id>
	<title>Usual Infared Grid can defeat it.</title>
	<author>Palpatine\_li</author>
	<datestamp>1260015600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>'cause cloak bends light and make it go a longer distance before reaching the sensor, and phase shift can be detected without a sweat.</htmltext>
<tokenext>'cause cloak bends light and make it go a longer distance before reaching the sensor , and phase shift can be detected without a sweat .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>'cause cloak bends light and make it go a longer distance before reaching the sensor, and phase shift can be detected without a sweat.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30338974</id>
	<title>They have invisibility cloaks now they are looking</title>
	<author>Joe The Dragon</author>
	<datestamp>1260013440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They have invisibility cloaks now they are looking ways to beat the ones the others sides are useing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They have invisibility cloaks now they are looking ways to beat the ones the others sides are useing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They have invisibility cloaks now they are looking ways to beat the ones the others sides are useing.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30343732</id>
	<title>Re:The Possibilities</title>
	<author>Nazlfrag</author>
	<datestamp>1260120900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Strangely enough you can also detect pegasi by throwing rocks at them. True story.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Strangely enough you can also detect pegasi by throwing rocks at them .
True story .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Strangely enough you can also detect pegasi by throwing rocks at them.
True story.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339238</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339768</id>
	<title>Re:Why worry?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260019680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Perfectly clocked object does not interact with the other objects by any means thus  it is completely irrelevant for the rest of the universe so by defiition does not  exist. Its dis/re-appearance would break physics laws as it would mean the same as mater creation, perpetum-mobile or whatever you call it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Perfectly clocked object does not interact with the other objects by any means thus it is completely irrelevant for the rest of the universe so by defiition does not exist .
Its dis/re-appearance would break physics laws as it would mean the same as mater creation , perpetum-mobile or whatever you call it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perfectly clocked object does not interact with the other objects by any means thus  it is completely irrelevant for the rest of the universe so by defiition does not  exist.
Its dis/re-appearance would break physics laws as it would mean the same as mater creation, perpetum-mobile or whatever you call it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339114</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339650</id>
	<title>Lost cloak?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260018660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I bet they turned on their prototype and lost it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I bet they turned on their prototype and lost it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bet they turned on their prototype and lost it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339094</id>
	<title>Perfect cloak buster - big-ass underground fan</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260014280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ala <a href="http://quizilla.teennick.com/user\_images/B/BabyBloom/1051208564\_resMarilyn.jpg" title="teennick.com">Marilyn Monroe</a> [teennick.com] in "The Seven Year Itch".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ala Marilyn Monroe [ teennick.com ] in " The Seven Year Itch " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ala Marilyn Monroe [teennick.com] in "The Seven Year Itch".</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30338964</id>
	<title>The easy solution, from the article</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1260013380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Just throw a stone at it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just throw a stone at it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just throw a stone at it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30340718</id>
	<title>Invisibility</title>
	<author>Psychotic\_Wrath</author>
	<datestamp>1260029160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKPVQal851U/url" title="youtube.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKPVQal851U/url</a> [youtube.com]

and you know they have things better than what is shown on youtube. Which is probably why they are looking for something to see invisibility.</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = JKPVQal851U/url [ youtube.com ] and you know they have things better than what is shown on youtube .
Which is probably why they are looking for something to see invisibility .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKPVQal851U/url [youtube.com]

and you know they have things better than what is shown on youtube.
Which is probably why they are looking for something to see invisibility.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30342682</id>
	<title>Re:rain</title>
	<author>NoMoreFood</author>
	<datestamp>1260108300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>While it wouldn't help for colors, I'd vote for sonar-based vision processing.</htmltext>
<tokenext>While it would n't help for colors , I 'd vote for sonar-based vision processing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While it wouldn't help for colors, I'd vote for sonar-based vision processing.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30338958</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339476</id>
	<title>A really low-tech solution:</title>
	<author>LynnwoodRooster</author>
	<datestamp>1260016980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>A handful of flour - good and covering just about everything within a 10 yard radius!</htmltext>
<tokenext>A handful of flour - good and covering just about everything within a 10 yard radius !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A handful of flour - good and covering just about everything within a 10 yard radius!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30339084</id>
	<title>Simple.</title>
	<author>Nekomusume</author>
	<datestamp>1260014220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Flamethrower.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Flamethrower .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Flamethrower.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_12_05_2131200.30338890</id>
	<title>Look to video games for ideas...</title>
	<author>sysusr</author>
	<datestamp>1260012720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>How about a heartbeat sensor from Modern Warfare 2?

Games are a goldmine for these sorts of wacky ideas which just might work.</htmltext>
<tokenext>How about a heartbeat sensor from Modern Warfare 2 ?
Games are a goldmine for these sorts of wacky ideas which just might work .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about a heartbeat sensor from Modern Warfare 2?
Games are a goldmine for these sorts of wacky ideas which just might work.</sentencetext>
</comment>
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